Open Thread – Weekend 11 Feb 2023


The Shipwreck on Northern sea, Ivan Aivazovski, 1875


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calli
calli
February 13, 2023 9:28 am

Yes, Duk. It was disgusting and pointed out here very early in the piece.

Your argument seems to be more about Payback than finding the truth, though I doubt that’s what you would really do in practice.

Plasmamortar
Plasmamortar
February 13, 2023 9:30 am

Any theories here on all the UFO’s being shot down now?

I’m thinking that western governments are downing weather ballons and beating up the story in a attempt to frighten their citizens and get them on board as we prepare for the coming Third World War.

Dot
Dot
February 13, 2023 9:33 am

Every death under 60 should be treated with suspicion.

Yea there are pre exisiting conditions. Vaccine injuries may result in a comorbidity.

I am shocked that “Pfizer Arm” is a thing people just tolerated. Being allowed to drink in a pub was more important than all other civil liberties or the fact that other vaccines were made in the west and elsewhere which were effective but actually a lot more safe.

Dot
Dot
February 13, 2023 9:36 am

Did anyone ever see those stupid “Vaxxed” hats worn by anyone in real life?

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
February 13, 2023 9:40 am

Voice 8.0 poses more risks than forebears Nick Cater

12:00AM February 13, 2023
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We are indebted to the member for Higgins, Michelle Ananda-Rajah, for adding a concise history of Indigenous voices to parliament to the parliamentary record.

The Whitlam government’s National Aboriginal Consul­tative Committee (1973-77) was replaced by the National Aboriginal Conference (1977-85), which in turn was scrapped to make way for the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Commission (1989-2005). The Council for Aboriginal Reconciliation (1991-2000), the National Indigenous Council (2005-07), the National Congress of Australia’s First Peoples (2009-19) and the Prime Minister’s Indigenous Advisory Council (2013-19) were established with the same objective of allowing Indigenous voices to be heard in the corridors of power.

“Billions of taxpayer dollars have been spent, but the results speak for themselves – statistics on education, housing, domestic violence and health that are a national disgrace,” Ananda-Rajah told parliament in an adjournment speech in November last year. “To paraphrase Einstein, we can keep doing the same thing over and over again, but don’t expect a different result.”
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Ananda-Rajah, a Labor MP, is confident that voice to parliament 8.0 will succeed where versions one to seven failed. Those not bound by the solidarity of the Labor caucus are entitled to be more sceptical.

There is little evidence that the Albanese government has bothered to absorb the lessons of previous well-intentioned but failed attempts to bring Indigenous representatives to the table. Had it done so, it would have avoided trying to rush the voice through in its first year of government, the mistake Gough Whitlam made in 1973.

Elections for the National Aboriginal Consultative Committee were held on November 24, 1973, just 354 days into office. Confusion abounded. Writing in The Age in September 1973, Michelle Grattan described it as a “Black Parliament”, despite the government’s insistence that it would be merely advisory.

Senator Neville Bonner, the only elected Indigenous voice in parliament at that time, described it as a form of apartheid: “To have a separate parliament and a separate electoral roll on which only Aboriginal people will be listed will divide the Aboriginal people not only among themselves but also from the rest of the Australian community. I give a warning here and now that this will cause a lot more trouble than people seem to realise.”

Electoral officials had just 18 days to assemble a voting register. Only 27,000 of the 116,000 Aboriginal Australians recorded in the 1971 census voted.

The 41 elected members were paid a salary of $6000, roughly equivalent to the average wage, plus expenses. At their first meeting on December 18, the one and only demand was that their salaries be doubled, secretaries allocated to each member and that they be issued with cars.

Those demands not being met, the committee emerged from its second meeting in February 1974 with a threat to walk out.

It was followed by a demand for complete control over the $114m allocated to Aboriginal affairs.

The Canberra Times expressed puzzlement at the emphasis being put on “personal emoluments … rather than what is the object of the whole exercise, the Aboriginal people as a whole”. While the experiment was “a worthy one”, the committee “will manifestly have to evolve considerably before it becomes a useful tool in giving the Aborigines a sense of participation in the making of decisions affecting them”.

Thus, the first attempt to give Indigenous Australians a voice to parliament fell foul of the iron law of government funding: the first and often only beneficiaries of programs are those paid to administer them.

The lack of detail on the latest proposal, including crucial information on how much members of the voice will be paid and who will hold them to account, gives us little confidence that it will be able to avoid the pitfalls of its predecessors. There is no guarantee that it will not become just another sinecure for the Aboriginal elite, remote from the lives of those it is intended to serve.

Perhaps the most crucial omission is a statement about what constitutes success. Is it to ensure that Aboriginal Australians stand on an equal footing with their fellow citizens, giving them the same opportunities as every other Australian to strive for a better life?

Or is success a formal gesture of reconciliation, be it a reference in the Constitution, a parliamentary advisory body, a treaty of sovereign independence, the establishment of a truth commission, or all of the above?

That appears to be the view of Anthony Albanese. Last week the Prime Minister declared the argument between constitu­tional recognition and practical outcomes to be “a false choice”.

“We need constitutional recognition to improve practical outcomes,” he said. “It sends a message to Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people: we’re serious about making this work, over the long-term.”

Albanese’s proposal is but the latest iteration of the failed technocratic approach to Aboriginal affairs now 50 years old. It holds that the physical and emotional needs of Indigenous Australians will be met only once social justice, property rights and compensation have been secured.

Anthropologist Peter Sutton is one of the few former advocates of this approach to renounce it. In his seminal 2010 book The Politics of Suffering, Sutton documents the breakdown in social order, the decline of literacy and health in towns such as Aurukun since the 1970s.

Our mistake, he argues, was to imagine that the solutions to human problems lie in politics and law rather than in the practical application of basic human rights. “This unscientific mumbo jumbo beggars belief,” Sutton writes. “It relies on a kind of magical cause-and-effect relationship, as if a treaty between ‘races’ will keep children safe in their beds at night.”

In a speech to the Chifley Research Centre last week, Albanese brushed off the request for more detail as an attempt to drum up outrage by people trying to start a culture war. “There are always those who want to create confusion and provoke division, to try and stall progress,” he said. Yet stalling what the Prime Minister describes as progress might not be such a bad thing after five decades of watching good intentions turn sour.

The saving grace of the seven previous bodies is that they could be reformed or abolished by a democratically elected parliament if they went astray.

This one will be established under constitutional authority, which means, for better or worse, that we’ll be stuck with it forever.

Roger
Roger
February 13, 2023 9:44 am

In horse has bolted news…

Turkey issues 130+ arrest warrants for building contractors.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

That a Catholic school would do this to their student is a new low in Canada. Where is the clergy? Where is the bishop?

This could have happened in Australia, & probably will.
Catholic schools ain’t what they used to be, alas.

Cassie of Sydney
February 13, 2023 9:44 am

On my way to work this morning, I ran into someone who attended Pell’s funeral service in the cathedral. We discussed the cowardice of Perrottet, Minns and Albanese, and this person said that that Dutton was at the service, which I knew, but also that Latham attended the service in the cathedral.

Another reason why I’ll be voting One Nation at next months’ state election.

Jorge
Jorge
February 13, 2023 9:45 am

Peter Vlandys (Racing NSW) is about as popular as Putin.

He used the nuclear codes early on and Racing VIC just retaliated with a few old Stingers but it looks like they’re readying the subs off the NSW coast now.

Shy Ted
Shy Ted
February 13, 2023 9:45 am

Excellent line from an ABC illiterate re above story –

Longo had passed away in his Texas family home where authorities found him lying unresponsive on his bed while asleep.

Must have been a very deep sleep.

Oh come on
Oh come on
February 13, 2023 9:45 am

On Cody Longo, dead at 34…

From the NYT a couple of hours ago.

He was an alcoholic, on the wagon and then went on a bender. That’ll do it.

A relatively healthy 34yo dying of alcohol poisoning? Possible I suppose, but it isn’t exactly common. Heroin, maybe, but booze? Come on.

Given all of the lies we’ve been told over the last 3 years, it’s not at all unreasonable to start with the presumption that they’re lying about the cause of any of these strange deaths.

Sorry vaxx ghouls. This one isn’t yours. Find another.

Don’t worry, there are plenty more, even if this one happens to be non-vaxx related. Plenty more.

Roger
Roger
February 13, 2023 9:49 am

‘Federal government unveils $425 million Closing the Gap plan’

Shouldn’t they have awaited input from the Voice?

Beertruk
Beertruk
February 13, 2023 9:49 am

Far Right

Equals

So far, right”

‘Far Right’ is ‘Right so far?’

Oh come on
Oh come on
February 13, 2023 9:50 am

it’s not at all unreasonable to start with the presumption that they’re lying about the cause of any of these strange deaths.

In fact, I’d say if you’re not starting from this position after the last three years, you’ve been gaslit into credulity.

Black Ball
Black Ball
February 13, 2023 9:52 am

Daily Telegraph helpfully rates each of the mongs in the baggy green nightmare in Nagpur:

USMAN KHAWAJA – 1.5

Slightly unlucky first innings and a bit reckless in the second. Australia urgently needs him to lift like he did in Pakistan last year, but the conditions in India are much tougher.

DAVID WARNER – 2

Bowled by a good ball from Mohammad Shami in the first innings before scrapping to 10 off 41 balls in the second and falling lbw to Ravi Ashwin. Faces a challenging road ahead this series, given Ashwin has got his wicket 11 times in Test cricket.

MARNUS LABUSCHAGNE – 4

His first innings 49 was Australia’s best for the Test and he showed solid resistance in both innings, without cracking the big score Australia needed.

STEVE SMITH – 4

He looked like the man who is averaging 58 in Tests in India with two robust performances. Much will fall on his shoulders if Australia is to find a way back into this series.

MATTHEW RENSHAW – 1

Had a horror Test including a golden duck, a trip to hospital for a knee injury and another meek exit in the second innings. Fell to two lbw decisions in the Test, the first of which when he missed the ball by a huge margin. Faces immediate pressure from the more adventurous and experienced Travis Head.

PETER HANDSCOMB – 3

Steady knock in the first innings but struggled to move the scoreboard along as wickets fell around him. Faces an immediate threat for his position if Cameron Green can recover from injury.

ALEX CAREY – 6

A deceptively good effort. Kept well, his DRS decision-making was excellent overall and his perky first-innings 36 off 31 showed great intent and skill. One of Australia’s most reliable performers.

PAT CUMMINS – 3

Looked unusually distracted when he took the new ball first-up and was punished by opposition captain, Rohit Sharma. Recovered to bowl a sensational spell late on day two – when he bowled Rohit with a screaming delivery, but this was not his best Test. Facing his greatest challenge as captain over the next month.

TODD MURPHY – 9

Sensational performance which will sit proudly as a historical gold stud for Australia as long as the game is played. One of the best debut efforts seen in recent history. Looks to have a long future ahead of him in Test cricket.

NATHAN LYON – 2

Was unlucky at times with DRS Umpire’s call and dropped catches, but was still well below par for his lofty standards. Lyon was shown up by colleague Murphy and India’s penetrative spin bowling trio.

SCOTT BOLAND – 3

Workhorse performance and kept things tight on day two when they could have spiralled out of control. Failed to take a wicket though and dropped a simple catch late in the Indian innings which cost Australia dearly, even though the game may already have been gone.

Johnny Rotten
February 13, 2023 9:52 am

lotocotisays:
February 13, 2023 at 8:46 am
Where is the bishop?

It just got taken by the Queen. Check mate………………………

Roger
Roger
February 13, 2023 9:59 am

Breaking news on the Sussex v. Cambridge front:

Meghan says Kate is “not a hugger.”

As you were…

Johnny Rotten
February 13, 2023 10:00 am

An old lady in a nursing home is wheeling up and down the halls in her wheelchair making sounds like she’s driving a car. As she’s going down the hall an old man jumps out of a room and says “Excuse me ma’am but you were speeding. Can I see your driver’s license?” She digs around in her purse a little, pulls out a candy wrapper, and hands it to him. He looks it over, gives her a warning and sends her on her way.

Up and down the halls she goes again. Again, the same old man jumps out of a room and says “Excuse me ma’am but I saw you cross the centre line back there”. “Can I see your registration please?” She digs around in her purse a little, pulls out a store receipt and hands it to him. He looks it over, gives her another warning and sends her on her way.

She zooms off again up and down the halls weaving all over. As she comes to the old man’s room again he jumps out. This time, he’s stark naked and has an erection! The old lady in the wheel chair looks up and says “Oh no… not the Breathalyzer again!”

Johnny Rotten
February 13, 2023 10:01 am

My wife wants sex in the back of the car and she wants me to drive.

– Rodney Dangerfield

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
February 13, 2023 10:05 am

flyingduksays:

February 13, 2023 at 9:22 am

My point was the immediate response “it was the vaxx wot dun it”, when his associates point to his alcoholism as the possible cause.

I believe it was the government that set that precedent when they deemed every death ‘with* COVID’ as ‘from COVID’.

OK, if that makes you feel better, go for it.
But you are not holding yourself to a particularly high standard if you go down that path.
And, as others have pointed out, it will ultimately prove to be futile, even counter-productive if the objective is to convince people.

calli
calli
February 13, 2023 10:06 am

Yea there are pre exisiting conditions. Vaccine injuries may result in a comorbidity.

I look at what happened to my father and you may be on the money there, Dot. It’s going to be so widespread and with so many different iterations that it’s impossible to pin down.

And for those who think I’m a pos for making certain comments, I’m also the one who showed Indolent how to post his Exposé links using Tinyurl.

So you can all be mad at me. I’m an Equal Opportunity Annoyer. 😀

And now off to S&B for some stitching therapy.

Cassie of Sydney
February 13, 2023 10:07 am

We’ve gone the full circle. Now, every death is either vaxx caused or related, even when it isn’t. In 2020 and 2021, every death was either Covid caused or related, even when it wasn’t.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
February 13, 2023 10:14 am

A relatively healthy 34yo dying of alcohol poisoning? Possible I suppose, but it isn’t exactly common. Heroin, maybe, but booze? Come on.

Certainly is possible. It’s not a cumulative condition – alcohol poisoning is the result of too much, too quickly.

Over the years as a parent I’ve had the dubious pleasure of dealing with several cases: most commonly, silly, 40kg teenaged girls who gloop down half a bottle of vodka – thinking they’re preloading – and then come to in hospital a day later.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
February 13, 2023 10:14 am

Daily Mail. Peak stupidity, anyone?

Mum who had her breasts removed while identifying as transgender shares pain and guilt of not being able to feed her baby

Elizabeth has shared her story with researchers
She had identified as transgender
Aged 20, Elizabeth underwent a chest masculinisation mastectomy
Has shared her grief over not being able to breastfeed her baby

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
February 13, 2023 10:16 am

Dr Faustus

Mr Chalmers said while he’s not clear when power prices will stop increasing there are “very encouraging” indications the energy plan will work throughout the course of the year.

Translation from Politico to English:-

“We have no idea where this is going and no idea how to fix it if it continues to go pear shaped. We are praying for a miracle or a yuuuge distraction”.

Cassie of Sydney
February 13, 2023 10:19 am

“A relatively healthy 34yo dying of alcohol poisoning? Possible I suppose, but it isn’t exactly common. Heroin, maybe, but booze? Come on.”

It might be rare but it does happen. The child of an old family friend died a few years ago of alcohol poisoning. The child was 38 years old. It’s terribly sad.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
February 13, 2023 10:20 am

Cassie of Sydneysays:

February 13, 2023 at 10:07 am

We’ve gone the full circle. Now, every death is either vaxx caused or related, even when it isn’t. In 2020 and 2021, every death was either Covid caused or related, even when it wasn’t.

Both positions are equally disingenuous and stupid. And if anyone thinks declaring faux vax deaths on an obscure blog or a “trusted corner of the innernet” is somehow exacting revenge on the wrongdoers they are sadly mistaken.

Cassie of Sydney
February 13, 2023 10:21 am

“Both positions are equally disingenuous and stupid. And if anyone thinks declaring faux vax deaths on an obscure blog or a “trusted corner of the innernet” is somehow exacting revenge on the wrongdoers they are sadly mistaken.”

Yep.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
February 13, 2023 10:26 am

Dr Faustussays:

February 13, 2023 at 10:14 am

A relatively healthy 34yo dying of alcohol poisoning? Possible I suppose, but it isn’t exactly common. Heroin, maybe, but booze? Come on.
…..
Certainly is possible

Yep.
A bloke I went to Uni with was an epic drinker and was known to start a 4 litre cask on Friday evening and empty it before Saturday evening.
Eventually killed him aged 20. Those who knew him swore he never took anything else and the autopsy supported that.
Although he was vaxxed for polio, so …

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
February 13, 2023 10:31 am
Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
February 13, 2023 10:35 am

Alcohol is like any other drug.
It is possible to overdose and, like some other drugs, it seems coming back to it after a period of abstinence can make you vulnerable.

Christine
Christine
February 13, 2023 10:36 am

“vaxxed” for polio
pretty silly

With the polio vaccination, there was good reason to be confident.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
February 13, 2023 10:37 am

thefrollickingmolesays:

February 13, 2023 at 10:31 am

A relatively healthy 34yo dying of alcohol poisoning..

Ahem.

Yes.
Sadly Bon was Exhibit A illustrating the point.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
February 13, 2023 10:38 am

Labour fires the starting gun on the resumption of the people smuggling game.

But please, fly ins only, as the boats is so year 2000…
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-02-12/refugees-visa-temporary-protection-labor-election-promise/101963764

Thousands of refugees across Australia who have lived “in limbo” for years will be eligible to stay in the country permanently as Labor moves to enact its pre-election commitment.

From Monday, around 19,000 refugees who arrived in Australia before Operation Sovereign Borders started in 2013 will be able to apply to transition to a permanent Resolution of Status (RoS) visa.

The move affects people who hold Temporary Protection Visas (TPV) and Safe Haven Enterprise Visas (SHEV) which Labor promised to abolish at the last election and have been described as cruel by human rights groups.

Those granted a new visa will have the same rights and benefits as all other permanent residents, and will be immediately eligible for social security payments, access to the NDIS and higher education assistance.

They will also be permitted to apply to become citizens once they meet the necessary citizenship requirements and will be able to sponsor family members to come to Australia.

Thousands more votes, and the votes they import.
100,000 more voters to dilute the stale “old Australia” pool.

Zipster
February 13, 2023 10:38 am

7 Years until Expropriation: EU draft Law Threatens Property Owners!

The EU is currently working on a draft law that would practically expropriate older residential buildings. If they do not meet the new European energy efficiency standards then these buildings will lose the permit to be occupied in 2030. That is in less than 7 years.

If you own a property in Europe, you better start looking into this. Energetic renovations can costs hundreds of thousands of dollars depending on its size and age. In many cases that is just not feasible.

Without compliance, you will not be allowed to live in your property or to rent it out. The bank where you got the mortgage will certainly demand it back and you will be broke and end up in foreclosure. Now of course your property has no value because the property is no longer rentable or financeable which means it is a total loss for you.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
February 13, 2023 10:38 am

Christinesays:

February 13, 2023 at 10:36 am

“vaxxed” for polio
pretty silly

May contain traces of attempted humour.

Indolent
Indolent
February 13, 2023 10:39 am

LOL. The Israeli Left have been screeching about the end of democracy and the end of everything good and nice and demonstrating like idiots on meth.

I thought it might have been something like that. The screaming always starts when the right gets into any position of power.

Zipster
February 13, 2023 10:44 am

My point was the immediate response “it was the vaxx wot dun it”, when his associates point to his alcoholism as the possible cause.

If your immune system is on the edge due to lingering residual spike protein, stressors like aggressive dieting, alcohol consumption or even too much exercise can push you over the edge. Seen it first hand.

mem
mem
February 13, 2023 10:45 am

Rogersays:
February 13, 2023 at 9:49 am
‘Federal government unveils $425 million Closing the Gap plan’

Shouldn’t they have awaited input from the Voice?

How much does that work out a head? But we all know that the majority will be creamed off by bureaucracy, Labor grifters and Aboriginal elite who get to run the show. What’s left will go on grog and drugs.

Indolent
Indolent
February 13, 2023 10:47 am

The EU is currently working on a draft law that would practically expropriate older residential buildings

“You will own nothing”

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
February 13, 2023 10:49 am

I am totally with Calli (and Sancho) here.

If you are going to try to make a point you really need to employ some rigour. It is better to go into an argument with a single verifiable case than with a verifiable case and a too-hastily accepted one. Partly because the latter misstates the situation so neither side is arguing truth, but perhaps more importantly being caught with the bodgy case dashes your credibility. It doesn’t matter what you say after that.

During the Coof we all rolled our eyes and scoffed at how governments and do-gooders were saying everyone who died with Covid had died of Covid. We would look at more detail and see how dishonest it all was.

Guess what? It would be dishonest for us to do the same. Leaping at every death of a person under 60 and loosing an ominous ‘Woooooo…Vaccine’ will eventually get you into the habit of thinking they were all vaccine deaths.

Then you will be a crank.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
February 13, 2023 10:51 am

Some talk of Clarkson’s Farm over the weekend, with a criticism that “Oh, it’s easy for him, with his millions, to change what he farms from sheep to crops to cattle.”
Err, he admits that in S2E1.
“What do normal farmers do if they don’t have Amazon money or an income from Who Wants to be a Millionaire?”
I think his chopping and changing is deliberate. Firstly, it makes good television to see him f*ck up everything new he turns his hand to. Secondly, it cleverly illustrates the difficulties and eye-watering expenses and risks associated with almost every agricultural pursuit.
The thing I can’t get over is Amazon cancelling the show over the Meghan Markle thing. The formula for good television is so hard to produce and this is a gold nugget. The cast, of which Clarkson is the only television professional, is brilliant and the situations they get into (even though mostly contrived and exaggerated) are genuinely funny.
Why they would kill that Golden Goose to placate some trumped up tart from California is beyond me.

Cassie of Sydney
February 13, 2023 10:51 am

“I am totally with Calli (and Sancho) here.”

Did you mean “Cassie”?

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
February 13, 2023 10:58 am

LOL. The Israeli Left have been screeching about the end of democracy and the end of everything good and nice and demonstrating like idiots on meth.

Like the Democrats in the US. Cry out that democracy is under threat to justify intrusive laws to ‘save’ it.

That is why we are now treated to sight of a government locking up Jan 6 protesters, reviling people with different opinions, tracking citizens, and trying to shut down free speech – because democracy is under threat.

H B Bear
H B Bear
February 13, 2023 11:00 am

But, hey, working a treat.
Treasury analysis says so.

Treasury is one step above Teh Ponds Institute.

Speaking of which, Richard Dennnissssss gets a well deserved serve in this week’s Chris Mitchell column along with the usual regulars (hint: you are paying for them.)

P
P
February 13, 2023 11:07 am

Cassie of Sydney says:
February 13, 2023 at 9:44 am

On my way to work this morning, I ran into someone who attended Pell’s funeral service in the cathedral. We discussed the cowardice of Perrottet, Minns and Albanese, and this person said that that Dutton was at the service, which I knew, but also that Latham attended the service in the cathedral.

Matt Canavan was there and it was good to see Alan Jones also attended.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
February 13, 2023 11:12 am

“I am totally with Calli (and Sancho) here.”

Did you mean “Cassie”?

Sorry Cassie. I started the post before yours appeared but was interrupted by a Teams call. I see you make the same point as me.

Great minds, and all that.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
February 13, 2023 11:15 am

Mother Lode at 10:49.
The worst thing is, as soon as you call out the obvious bullshit “vax deaths” you become a Big Pharma shill and a denier.
I happen to believe that there are vax deaths and injuries, and that they are being underplayed. Not necessarily numerically underestimated, but discussion of the seriousness of those genuine cases is being muted. There is also a slowly growing acceptance that injuries are real (eg Kerryn Phelps) and a definite propensity to weigh up risks when assessing whether to go for further shots. So there is a turning tide, which needs to be encouraged by factual reporting and considered analysis.
“They did it too!” is such a pissweak, intellectually lazy (and ultimately futile) position to argue from.
The “Died Suddenly” gang, on the other hand, instead of focussing on the relatively numerically small (but serious) vax injuries is trying to create the impression that people are dropping like flies, and the vax death toll will run into the billions (Hi St Ruth!).
Why are they doing this? To attract innernet eyeballs? To enhance their own Oracle/Martyr status? To foment revolution? Or do they genuinely believe it?
Who knows?
But one thing is for sure. They are enabling a killing off of rational debate as effectively as if they were running Klaus Schwab’s Ministry of Truth. So easy to shoot down ALL discussion of vax harm by pointing to the myriad easily disproved claims by “trusted sources on the innernet”.

Zipster
February 13, 2023 11:20 am

‘Unidentified object’ downed over Lake Huron, 3rd this week
WASHINGTON (AP) — A U.S. fighter jet shot down an “unidentified object” over Lake Huron on Sunday on orders from President Joe Biden, believed to be the same one tracked over Montana and monitored by the government beginning the night before, the Pentagon said.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
February 13, 2023 11:20 am

People who are linking death or illness with the vaxx aren’t making a point or argument, they are trying to associate the two in the public mind as a possibility. It’s a rhetorical exercise. Logic alone isn’t going to change anyone who is convinced that the vaxx is ‘safe and effective’ and this is the conclusion of ‘the science’ because they never reasoned themselves into this position. The only way they will get through that wall, built up over the last three years, is either a vaxx injury to themselves or a close friend/ relative, or to pound it mercilessly with rhetoric. Once that door is ajar, logic may find an audience.

Oh, you mean sort of like the Tim Flummery “never gonna rain again” rhetoric has won over climate realists?

bons
bons
February 13, 2023 11:32 am

Matt Canavan is Australia’s only ‘light on the hill’.
But I do wish he would hurry and find his matches.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
February 13, 2023 11:37 am

“I am totally with Calli (and Sancho) here.”

Did you mean “Cassie”?

I think both Cassie and calli were calling out the sudden death = vax death … ahem … ghouls.

Diogenes
Diogenes
February 13, 2023 11:45 am

Logic alone isn’t going to change anyone who is convinced that the vaxx is ‘safe and effective’ and this is the conclusion of ‘the science’ because they never reasoned themselves into this position.

ATM most people that talk about vaccination in our over 50s village aren’t too worried about the ‘safe’, but rather the ‘effective’.

“I’ve had my 4 shots and I still ended up with it a couple of times. I don’t think I’ll worry about the 5th as each time I get one I am crook for a week” seems to be typical.

I know of one resident gagging to get the 5th shot, but she is following the advice of the sainted Dr N Swann.

Figures
Figures
February 13, 2023 11:49 am

Oh, you mean sort of like the Tim Flummery “never gonna rain again” rhetoric has won over climate realists?

Bizarre comment.

Practically everything leftists have done the past 30 years has been successful – despite being obviously and insanely wrong.

Flannery’s comment shifted the Overton window. Just like the statement “men can menstruate” shifts the Overton Window.

Leftists started to say men could be women just a few years ago. Now you get into trouble if you disagree. Nobody believes it’s true but it’s still highly effective for persuading people to accept ever more of the leftist agenda.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
February 13, 2023 11:57 am

How dreadful!

Soaring power bills in Victoria leave households struggling (Sky News, 13 Feb)

Household budgets in Victoria are being affected by rising gas and electricity costs, leaving consumers struggling with bill blowouts. Annual average gas bills have risen by 45 per cent in comparison to previous years.

Maybe Dan could do something about that? In other astounding news:

Companies are ‘holding back’ from investing in gas due to price caps (Sky News, 12 Feb)

AGL Chief Executive Damien Hicks says investors are “holding back” after the government’s intervention on gas prices. “I think what you’re seeing is people are holding back, we’re seeing that through some of our gas suppliers,” he told Sky News Business Editor Ross Greenwood.

When you’ve lost green-as-grass AGL… Hmm, I wonder if Dan’s ban on any new gas projects has any effect on this? Just asking for a friend in Canberra.

Figures
Figures
February 13, 2023 11:58 am

How often do leftists attack fellow leftists for being too left?

Never. That’s why – despite being completely anti-reality – their ideas gain traction.

If you’re a right winger and you think another right winger has gone too far, what you do is shut the f*** up. Better yet, if someone demands that you sell out said “too far right winger” just proceed to abuse the crap out of communists.

But so many on the right are so craven that they can’t help themselves. They think the 5 minutes of praise they get from a leftist for selling out allies will protect them for anything longer than that 5 minutes.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
February 13, 2023 12:01 pm

Daily Mail top page story.

Aussie mum refused a life-saving heart transplant for not getting a Covid vaccine unleashes at Dan Andrews’ government for its ‘coercive’ jab mandate while the rest of the world moves on – before Dr Nick Coatsworth offers a surprising defence”.

senator Ralph Babet has been trying to help her and has written to Federal Health Minister about the case. Coatesworth comments not going to help at all.

H B Bear
H B Bear
February 13, 2023 12:05 pm

It’s Monday. So we get an ad for Four Corners masquerading as News. “Australia’s most trusted news source”.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
February 13, 2023 12:20 pm

Are you not reconciled??

Im going to dive a touch into this one.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/feb/12/i-was-10-years-old-when-i-was-taken-from-my-home-the-stolen-generations-never-ended
The primary purpose of removing First Nations children was linked to assimilation processes to ensure First Nations people were wiped out. First Nations women and children, in particular, were a target. Understanding this allows us to understand the current intersection and treatment that First Nations women face today.

We are being held hostage to her denial of being neglected.
Either that or its necessary to believe the same time Krudd was doing his stolen generators apology there was a man in a black cape twisting his mustachios as he laughed while kidnapping a sleeping piccanninny from the loving bosm of its mother.
https://www.mamamia.com.au/vanessa-turnbull-roberts/
At 11, Vanessa was forcibly removed from her family, under what she calls “falsified allegations of neglect,” and placed in the foster care system. Over the next few years, she would be cycled through over a dozen homes.

“They came in and they intervened and it took them 11 years to remove me. Nothing was even wrong, and they would have known that had they represented my rights, my voice,” she says.

This is a prime example of sticking a maggot and wrecker into a 6 figure paid job whos only criteria is to whine and blame everything except dysfunctional Aboriginal child rearing practices for their problems. (generalization)

Vanessa Turnbull-Roberts is a proud Bundjalung Widubul-Wiabul woman and advocate for human rights, who is passionate about education, children and young people. Vanessa completed law at the University of New South Wales and took out the Australian Human Rights medal for her work around the adoption laws and forcible removal of children in out-of-home care. Her research is centred around decolonising child protection in the lives of First Nations people and she is currently writing her first book, Long Yarn Short: We Are Still Here, for the children who didn’t come home

Perplexed of Brisbane
Perplexed of Brisbane
February 13, 2023 12:23 pm

Perhaps the Sudden Death Syndrome cases should not be answered by a dogmatic, “It was the vaxx!” But by a question, “Was it the vaxx?”

For a few years your vaxx status was demanded of you to go somewhere as unimportant as a takeaway shop whether you liked it or not.

Now we have come full circle and through apparent evidence, the focus is on the other side. In most cases I suspect the answer to the question will be ‘no’ but in these strange cases there should be proof either way by autopsy. If the answer is ‘yes’ then we need to know.

Leon L
Leon L
February 13, 2023 12:26 pm

Cody Longo most liked died from aspiration of vomitus while comatose from alcohol.
Relatively common event even pre-covid.
In the past, a full autopsy would have been performed with results eventually released.
Not likely to happen in 2023.
However, it is likely that none of us will ever know his exact cause of death.

The issue is that there remains an increase in all cause mortality in most of the western world.
In Australia, this started in July 2021, around 2-3 months after the “vaccine” rollout and is ongoing on the data released to date.
The numbers are sufficiently abnormal, that in a functioning health system, a thorough open investigation would be undertaken and a stop put on “vaccines” until the results were known.
Emotions and fear will never lead to the truth, whatever the truth is.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
February 13, 2023 12:33 pm

Understanding this allows us to understand the current intersection and treatment that First Nations women face today.

Brutal bashings at the hands of Aboriginal mean?

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
February 13, 2023 12:37 pm

Labour fires the starting gun on the resumption of the people smuggling game.

Oh, no, no, no.
Quite wrong.
One of Labor’s very toppest Top Men is right onto the problem:

Bill Shorten says visa decision won’t aid people smugglers

The Albanese Government has no intention of giving the people smugglers model “any oxygen”.

This is the same Albanese Government that has every intention of delivering The Voice, cheap gas, an entire new model of the market economy and a $275 reduction in the national power bills.

Probably ‘no intentions’ work better than ‘intentions’, or something like that. Particularly with regard to giving oxygen.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
February 13, 2023 12:41 pm

Discussion over the weekend about super, mostly on the technical aspect of taxation of withdrawals.
Politically, I agree that the risk of super being hoovered up has increased.
However, I think jumping out of super is something of a “frying pan to fire” tactic.
I don’t think they are “coming for your super” per se. It’s broader than that. They are looking to “tax the wealthy” whether the wealth is in super or not.
Luigi the Unbelievable will go with the flow until it gets too hot, but Chalmers is the real ideologue.
What will be out of bounds?
.1 The principal residence? Probably a bridge too far as a blanket measure, but they might put a ceiling on the CGT-free status. Say, float it at $3 meg and ‘relax’ it to $5 meg. See also 5 below.
.2 Super. Again, blanket measures on all funds would be politically untenable. Perhaps the reintroduction of a means tested contributions surcharge? A limit on assets held in super? As with principal residence, they will frighten the horses a bit with an ambit and relax it to an assets limit of say $5 meg and/or “progressive tax on fund earnings of more than, say, $100k per member per annum for those in the now tax free pension stage”.
.3 Additional residences. They will be careful not to repeat Keating’s negative gearing blunder, but I think they will focus on “unutilised or under-utilised” properties (ie holiday houses and AirBnBs). This is an article of faith with the Greens. Either release them to the full time rental market or pay a poll tax.
.4 Franking credits. They won’t remove the tax concession completely. However, they might limit any refund arising from franking credits. This would hit retirees who hold a few shares and SMSFs in retirement phase which hold a lot of Australian tax-paying companies in their portfolios. Large industry funds are not affected because they have members from all age groups, and contributions tax offsets franking credits, so they get full benefit. An SMSF in retirement phase has no such structural benefit. I think limiting franking credit benefits based upon other taxation mechanisms is legally fraught, but Chalmers might try it because it will push people away from SMSFs into industry funds.
.5 Inheritance taxes or death duties. Of course, it won’t be called that. It will be an IEL – Intergenerational Equity Levy.
But, as Cassie and Rosie pointed out yesterday, these things have a habit of splattering mud in unintended places. Like up against Teal voters in leafy suburbs, and their under-achieving children who are banking on an inheritance.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
February 13, 2023 12:42 pm

Pomgolians wake up to the real extremist threat confronting them…

Disturbingly small headed pimps on youtube…

Counter-extremism workers have warned of a rapid rise in the number of cases being referred to them by schools concerned about the influence of the self-styled misogynist influencer Andrew Tate.

Frontline practitioners delivering the government’s counter-extremism Prevent programme told the Guardian that he was a factor in cases dating into last year.

Their warnings come amid criticism of a review of Prevent by William Shawcross, which concluded last week that the misogynistic “incel” subculture, whose women-hating adherents have been drawn to Tate, was not a counter-terrorism matter.

Dr Tim Squirrell, of the Institute for Strategic Dialogue (ISD), a counter-extremism thinktank, said misogyny of the type peddled by Tate was “falling through the cracks” of counter-extremism policy.

“Tate clearly represents a risk of radicalising young men into misogynist extremism. This kind of extremism is not currently considered for support under Prevent unless it is accompanied with a recognised ideology, eg incel/extreme rightwing/Islamist. That’s a problem,” he said.


“It may have been the delayed effect off the back of young people talking more about him after he lost access to some of his social media platforms, but we started to see a rise before Christmas, in terms of schools telling us about pupils really challenging staff, such as cases where pupils have said to female teacher:
What do you know, you’re a woman, you can’t teach me anything. Your place is in the kitchen.’”

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
February 13, 2023 12:44 pm

The primary purpose of removing First Nations children was linked to assimilation processes to ensure First Nations people were wiped out

The Aboriginal children, foraging on the town rubbish dump, while their parents were “on the grog?”
The Aboriginal girls, infected with venereal disease, because their loving parents had prostituted them to the crews of the North West pearling fleet? All linked to “assimilation processes?

Boambee John
Boambee John
February 13, 2023 12:50 pm

Perplexed of Brisbanesays:
February 13, 2023 at 12:23 pm
Perhaps the Sudden Death Syndrome cases should not be answered by a dogmatic, “It was the vaxx!” But by a question, “Was it the vaxx?”

Phrase it differently. “Was he/she/xe vaccinated? How many boosters? When?” That sows the seeds of doubt, without being confrontational.

Crossie
Crossie
February 13, 2023 12:54 pm

Johnny Rotten says:
February 13, 2023 at 8:24 am
All these Balloons –

99 Red Balloons –

Biden’s military has now sunk to the level of the Muppets. I suspect they are launching balloons and shooting them down so they can say “see, we know what we are doing”.

Boambee John
Boambee John
February 13, 2023 12:55 pm

Sancho

.3 Additional residences. They will be careful not to repeat Keating’s negative gearing blunder, but I think they will focus on “unutilised or under-utilised” properties (ie holiday houses and AirBnBs).

Recall how many Liars MPs hold multiple investment properties, the margin at which taxation cuts in is likely to be quite high.

If, however, members’ statements of pecuniary interests show a lot of investment houses being sold, watch where the proceeds go, to identify a relatively safe investment option.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
February 13, 2023 1:01 pm

Flannery’s comment shifted the Overton window. Just like the statement “men can menstruate” shifts the Overton Window.

No.
Even the most ardent erstwhile supporters of Flummery now largely ignore him. Sure, their ABC don’t openly criticise him, but he is no longer their go-to climate guy.
Why?
Because they know any mention of him re-opens the Pandora’s can of worms of failed predictions.
He is their Faulty.
That is where overblown rhetoric takes you.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
February 13, 2023 1:11 pm

Ineos Grenadier: the 4×4 you’ve been waiting for

by Toby Hagon

Land Rover-inspired styling

The Grenadier is old school, right down to its Land Rover-inspired styling, which is no mistake; the brand initially approached Land Rover about buying the tooling for the previous Defender.

There are live axles front and rear, a chunky ladder frame chassis and proper underbody protection. You select low-range by wrestling with a stubby gear lever and pull on a lever to apply the handbrake. There’s even a wading mode that temporarily disables the thermo fan to reduce the risk of damage while traversing up to 800mm of water.

The latest arrival on the four-wheel drive scene also does without electric seats so you can hose out the cabin without a risk of sparks and inaction. All of which gives you an idea of the thinking behind the Grenadier. It’s no ordinary off-roader. The car is the result of a boozy night in a London pub and a love affair with the ‘real’ Defender.

The blokes downing those ales were execs from British-based petro-chemicals giant Ineos, which also owns one-third of the Mercedes-AMG F1 team.

The boss of the company, Sir Jim Ratcliffe, is also Britain’s richest person and a man who’s more than happy to swap the corporate jet for the dust and dunes of Africa. He’s effectively created his ultimate 4×4.

“What we tried to do with the Grenadier is try to get it looking quite cool … LandCruiser reliability and off-road capability as good as it gets,” Ratcliffe tells us at a stately Scottish castle before we set off on this northern hemisphere adventure. “That’s where we set off five years ago. I think that’s where we’ve hopefully finished up.”

Sir Jim owns Mercedes-Benz G-Wagens and clearly has a soft spot for Land Rover Defenders. But he also wanted a car that ticked all the off-road boxes – capable, reliable, practical and built for purpose – without a price tag that would see it remaining slick, schmick and unused in the garage.

With the last real Defender rolling off the Solihull line in 2016 Ineos decided action was needed.

Alternative Assessment

https://outbacktravelaustralia.com.au/buyers-guide-wagons-large/grenadier/

Grenadier walk-around

A prototype Grenadier made an unexpected appearance at the Sydney 4WD and Adventure Show, held at Eastern Creek in September 2022. We couldn’t drive it, but we did get time to have a detailed inspection – except under the bonnet.

We expected more from what has been a well-oiled Ineos PR machine. People who had signed potential orders were informed by email about the prototype’s appearance, as were selected members of the 4WD press, but the perhaps more critical press was not so advised. We discovered it was on display only after we arrived at the Show.

The Grenadier, as presented, was, disappointingly, much more British than global, so we think its appeal will be somewhat limited.

The prototype was positioned over mirrors that revealed a very well protected underbody, but it’s busy under there and that packed chassis space leaves no room for an additional fuel tank, limiting capacity to 90 litres.

Given the ‘streamlined brick’ shape of the Grenadier, the BMW diesel six will most likely deliver 10-12L/100km in real-world conditions and worse when towing, so range is marginal for Australian conditions.

In typical Land Rover/Range Rover style, there are two presumably air-to-coolant radiators situated at both extremities of the front bumper bar. We say ‘presumably’ because we weren’t allowed to open the bonnet, while were told by bystanders that the more privileged press members had been allowed to do so.

These small radiators hide behind steel bumpers and mesh panels, which is a much better arrangement than the ‘plastic-protected’ Rover vehicle design, but they still need to exhaust hot air into the front wheel arches, via louvres in the plastic inner mudguards. The intercoolers will need daily cleaning in muddy, dusty and bug-laden conditions, we reckon.

Obviously, any damage to these little radiators or their long hoses will drain coolant.

Another issue is with the bolt-on ‘roo bar hoop that almost touches the bodywork. A typical animal strike impact will most likely push the hoop into the bodywork.

We know that styling is personal – some people even claim to like the Lexus grille shape – but the Grenadier’s ‘face’ as presented on this prototype is just plain wrong. Who dreamt up the idea of putting two weird-looking driving lights into a plastic V-shaped grille that resembles Nissan’s global ‘face’? Horizontal bars or a mesh front would look much better, we think. (And so did several of the Show visitors we spoke to.)

We found the Grenadier cramped inside, with squeezy access to the back seats in particular. Second row legroom is also limited, despite sculptured cutouts in the backs of the front seats.

However, the cargo area was wide and tall, with ample tie-down tracks.

The two batteries, fuses and vital electricals were located under the second-row split seats and we’d expect that production vehicles will have more terminal insulation than this prototype had. Also, the original concept was for a ‘hose-out’ interior and we wouldn’t bring a hose anywhere near the back seat.

The Grenadier’s driving station looks most impressive, with tilt-telescope steering column and military-vehicle-style panels and switchgear. However, we’re used to seeing large display screens in new 4WDs and there’s no room on the Grenadier dashboard or centre console for a large map screen.

OK, we may sound over-critical of the Grenadier and we were certainly not happy being uninformed about the Grenadier’s appearance at this Show, but we think people who were expecting ‘son of Defender’ will also be disappointed.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
February 13, 2023 1:13 pm

Flannery and co’s rhetoric wasn’t targeted at persuading climate realists. They were targeting normies, media, politicians, and they like, and they’ve done this since the 80s, and their rhetoric has been a roaring success. It’s been so successful that normies, media and politicians have adopted it themselves.

Firstly, do you really believe a campaign of rhetoric based around jumping on every death of anyone under 52 has the remotest chance of shifting public, media and political opinion?
Secondly, do you believe it would be ethical to do so?
The answer to the second question should avoid any “they started it” references.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
February 13, 2023 1:13 pm

I liked it when Flannery had his getaway house right on the edge of the Hawkesbury, in terrible danger of being drowned by the rising seas. On such things these two climate warriors are fun:

Germany: ‘Last Generation’ Climate Protesters Miss Court Date Because They Flew To Bali (12 Feb)

Two climate activists who blocked traffic in the German city of Stuttgart earlier this year missed their court date because they flew to Bali and Indonesia, for a round trip of 23,000 kilometers producing 7.9 tons of CO2 emissions.

In September 2022, Yannick S. and his girlfriend Luisa S., both members of the Last Generation activist group, blocked commuter traffic in Stuttgart. The two were cited by police, but when their court date arrived, it was revealed that neither could attend because they were on the other side of the planet on vacation.

Saving the planet is so exhausting that one must recharge one’s batteries on a WEB on the far side of the Earth. Oops did we miss a court date? That’s annoying!

Figures
Figures
February 13, 2023 1:14 pm

That is where overblown rhetoric takes you.

How can you get any more overblown than saying men can menstruate?

Has that overblown rhetoric led to a reduction in the political power of the left? Has it stopped kids from listening to the gay lobby?

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
February 13, 2023 1:14 pm

Recreational Vehicles – a World History 1872-1939

This magnificent book was published in early 2022, but, being on the outer fringes of the caravan world, the OTA website didn’t get hold of a review copy until late-2022.

Today there are around 15 million recreational vehicles – RVs – on the roads of the USA, Europe and Australasia, but this is the first chronological account of their journey that we’ve come across.

The book opens with explanations and photographs of how this fascinating family of vehicles came about and who the first recreational nomads were.

This history beautifully illustrates the vehicles and exploits of the early RV mavericks, with more than 250 period photos of the vehicles, their builders and their owners. It explores the evolution of the RV from its horse-drawn roots, through the steam era, to the golden age of 1930s caravans and motorhomes.

Many rare photos of early RVs were uncovered during the research for this book and are being published for the first time. We’re keen researchers, but we haven’t seen most of them before.

The book illustrates not only RV development, but the progress of the automobiles that towed caravans and camper trailers or mounted RV bodywork on their chassis.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
February 13, 2023 1:18 pm

That is where overblown rhetoric takes you.
Cold comfort after the complete capitulation of every major political party, school, university, institution and church in Australia for the last three decades. I’m sure he’s not losing any sleep or handing back any honourifics.

Tom
Tom
February 13, 2023 1:18 pm

The lazy sods at The Australian online still haven’t posted the new Johannes Leak cartoon, which appears on Page 11 this morning (hope you can see the page URL). The slackers putting together the online product still list as today’s daily cartoon the idea that John Spooner drew on Friday afternoon. Slack, slack, slack.

bons
bons
February 13, 2023 1:22 pm

Flannery remains a member of The Australian Academy of Sciences (not merely a fellow).
His position allows him to intimidate young and emerging scientists and influence course programs.
OT. I note that the august body has announced that they will be engaging as fellows the “emerging numbers of indigenous female scientists”. Astro voices.

shatterzzz
February 13, 2023 1:26 pm

Those granted a new visa will have the same rights and benefits as all other permanent residents, and will be immediately eligible for social security payments, access to the NDIS and higher education assistance.
Who are these boat-folk that don’t already have access to all of the above? .. the NSW HC estate I live in is full of boat-folk who have had no problems accessing gummint housing and everything available across the “welfare” board so who & where are all these folk who missed out?

duncanm
duncanm
February 13, 2023 1:27 pm

Having a discussion with someone the other day – who stated that the IPCC was basically on the money when it came to sea level rise predictions in 1990.

Took me 5min to google this, which shows that although their total (sum) rise number was basically correct , most of the component predictions were way out.
thermal expansion – way over stated. Actual expansion below all estimates.
melting of mountain glaciers – overstated. Right at the bottom of estimates
greenland ice sheet – spot on
land water – predicted zero, actual way above that
Antarctic Ice Sheet – predicted negative – actually positive and 3x as large.

So the sum of a bunch of wrongness averaged out to be a bit high on what was observed, and you would have predicted if you’d just curve-fitted the 200 years of real data available.

On – and let’s not forget their predictions had a range of 4x (low to high estimates.. not sure if this was a confidence interval or 90% or similar)

Roger
Roger
February 13, 2023 1:34 pm

I note that the august body has announced that they will be engaging as fellows the “emerging numbers of indigenous female scientists”.

No love for emerging non-binary indigenous scientists?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
February 13, 2023 1:38 pm

BJ at 12:55.

Recall how many Liars MPs hold multiple investment properties, the margin at which taxation cuts in is likely to be quite high.

If, however, members’ statements of pecuniary interests show a lot of investment houses being sold, watch where the proceeds go, to identify a relatively safe investment option.

Yeah, you’re right. Follow the pollies money.
Many of their properties are full-time rentals, so avoid the “unutilised/under-utilised” tag.
Example. Politician X owns townhouse 1 in Canbra and rents it to Politician Y. Coincidentally, Politician Y owns the mirror image townhouse next door and rents it to Politician X for exactly the same amount. Anywhere else in Australia the ATO takes a keen interest when they discover such sham reciprocal arrangements, but not so in Canbra.
Of course, under the amended laws, there will be exemptions and special provisions for certain occupations. Putting my creative cap on, I can see something like this:-
In the age of work-from-home, certain occupations may have to have two or more permanent residences. Take, for example, elected politicians and their advisors. They would need a residence wherever their chamber sits, another in – or in the case of Marles and Dreyfus – sort of near their electorate, and a third in a sunny spot to enable them to consider weighty matters of state unencumbered by outside distractions.
Other occupations which might conceivably need a 2-3 location “principal residence” would be media personalities, sports people, senior public servants etc, etc.
Anyone who needs to be neutralised … err … have their special needs considered.

Roger
Roger
February 13, 2023 1:43 pm

I think [Clarkson’s] chopping and changing is deliberate…it makes good television to see him f*ck up everything new he turns his hand to.

Like all “reality TV” it’s heavily curated to deliver an entertaining product.

Wheat farming wouldn’t exactly make for great television.

shatterzzz
February 13, 2023 1:44 pm

How easy things look on paper .. LOL! .. just back from bike riding .. from home (Near Fairfield Hospital) to Kingswood ( close to Nepean Hospita) via M7 & M4 .. I’ve a 6km steady climb to reach the M7 and, fortunately, it’s pretty even going from there .. I came back via the Highway to the M7, which has it’s fair share of up & downs but, maybe a coupla kms shorter than the outward trip tho that’s in with the traffic whilst on the M4 you’ve got the breakdown lane for comfort .. sooo somewhere around 45kms/4 hrs .. with a half hour break before return .. still not bad for 75 ..
end result .. I feelz about the same as after a 1500mts swim …!

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
February 13, 2023 1:48 pm

Wheat farming wouldn’t exactly make for great television.

Not the spectacle of someone standing on top of a broken down seeding plant, swearing in five languages?

JC
JC
February 13, 2023 1:49 pm

Nonsense. Flannery’s rhetoric was of a piece with every other alarmist and is now universal across media and politics. Every weather event is now associated with climate change; Flannery simply doesn’t need to get out of bed anymore in order to promote it.

I disagree. Flanhead made the fatal mistake of embarrassing them by making predictions that were very specific, and each one flubbed.

They make general predictions now that can’t be pinned down but mostly they wait until an extreme weather event occurs like and earthquake 🙂 and the tell us
“ I told you so”.
Flanhead embarrassed them.

JC
JC
February 13, 2023 1:50 pm

Whoops.

an earthquake

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
February 13, 2023 1:52 pm

Re 2, there is nothing unethical about repeatedly asking whether X or Y may have something to do with A.

Well, that is not what we see from the usual suspects here.
We either see something baldly cited as a vax death and, usually a cursory glance at the link shows it either is definitively not, or there is considerable doubt about cause.
Or we see some macro level statistics quoted as proving x hypothesis, which someone (usually Dr F) demolishes in ten seconds flat.
In any case, overcooking the case is counter-productive.
For example, I cite St Ruth, who has finally run off in shame*. Initially many here agreed with him but, the more he descended into overblown hyper-bowl the less tolerant people became, until he was being openly ridiculed by many here and support was dwindling, and most support was tinged with pity more than genuine conviction.
Don’t be a St Ruth.
It doesn’t end well.
…..
* Sure. Banned. But basically I think he engineered that because the ridicule of his approaching Doomsday dates had got too much, so he needed something of a face-saving exit.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
February 13, 2023 1:59 pm

‘Rubbish’: Lambie backs refugee policy
Agency writers
AGENCY WRITERS

Firebrand senator Jacqui Lambie has thrown her support behind Labor’s policy to allow thousands of refugees who have been in Australia on temporary visas to become permanent residents.

An estimated 19,000 refugees who have been in the country for up to a decade will be able to apply for a newly created permanent residency visa with family reunion rights and a path to citizenship from Tuesday.

Only temporary protection (TPV) and safe haven enterprise (SHEV) visa holders who arrived before Operation Sovereign Borders began on September 18, 2013 will be invited to apply.

The announcement sparked reports of concerns within the Labor Party that the policy would entice people smugglers and increase the number of asylum seeker and migrant boats attempting to reach Australia.

Senator Lambie, who holds a powerful position on the upper house crossbench, said claims the policy would result in a border security problem were “absolutely rubbish”.

“They’re good citizens. They’ve shown themselves capable of proving themselves. They’re working. They’re paying their taxes,” she told Sunrise.

“These people are proven. Let’s get on with it and get them ticked off so they can get on with their lives.”

Labor promised before the election to abolish TPVs, with Immigration Minister Andrew Giles saying the changes would end up to a decade of uncertainty for refugees.

“TPV and SHEV holders work, pay taxes, start businesses, employ Australians and build lives in our communities – often in rural and regional areas,” he said.

“Without permanent visas, however, they’ve been unable to get a loan to buy a house, build their businesses or pursue further education.

“It makes no sense – economically or socially – to keep them in limbo.”

The Rudd government abolished TPVs in 2008, but they were reintroduced by the Coalition as one of three pillars of the military-led Operation Sovereign Borders program of deterring asylum seekers from arriving by boat.

The Albanese government supports the other two of the three planks of Operation Sovereign Borders – boat turnbacks and offshore processing.

Labor frontbencher Bill Shorten said the government was committed to ensuring no one who arrived in Australia by boat without a valid visa would be allowed to stay.

“Anyone being sold a lie by the unscrupulous people smugglers, they’re not staying here. That’s it. Full stop,” he told ABC Radio on Monday.

“This proposal applies to people who arrived before Operation Sovereign Borders more than 10 years ago.”

Asked if anyone who arrived on a boat that authorities couldn’t turn around would have similar pathway to residency, Mr Shorten said: “No, absolutely not.”

“They go to third-party countries. We don’t intend to see the people smugglers’ model given any oxygen,” he said.

“It’s a terrible way of coming to Australia. It’s horribly unsafe, so the answer is no.”

Nevertheless, the Coalition has been scathing of Labor’s plan to scrap TPVs since it was announced before last year’s federal election.

Speaking to Today on Monday, Nationals MP Barnaby Joyce suggested Operation Sovereign Borders would “fall over” without TPVs.

“When the boats turn up, the Labor Party and Mr Albanese is the person you have to blame,” he said.

Robert Sewell
Robert Sewell
February 13, 2023 2:11 pm

Gabor:

Even if you believe in global warming, how on earth can you deduct that it causes earthquakes?
Climate change. I do believe in, it does change, cooler, warmer then back again, but causing earthquakes?

Gabor, the mechanism claimed is that as ice pack melts, it causes strains in the underlying rock called orthostatic disruption.
Whilst it sounds feasible if brainpower isn’t used, when you take into account the weights of the ice and the underlying rock, it becomes as relevant as concrete buckling when a film of rainwater evaporates in the sun.
Of course the claim is bullshit, but to a Greenie it’s words from God.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
February 13, 2023 2:12 pm

UFO Shootdown #4 – U.S. Military Shoot Down Another UFO Over Lake Huron

6) US officials described the object as a “small metallic balloon with a tethered payload,” while other media reports described it as “cylindrical” in shape. [*ability to evade detection]

7) Canada Minister of defense said they “defeated” object. Strange choice of words.

No pics of wreckage. Object over Lake Huron “decommissioned”. Rectangular structure. Taken out at 20,000 ft by F-16 with missile. Another object reported over China port.

Robert Sewell
Robert Sewell
February 13, 2023 2:21 pm

Crossie:

That a Catholic school would do this to their student is a new low in Canada. Where is the clergy? Where is the bishop?

They’re at a Gay Pride March, Crossie. Wondering why their congregations are deserting them.
Something evil and slimy has crept into the Church over the last 70 years, and it’s not guaranteed the Church will survive in the West.

shatterzzz
February 13, 2023 2:24 pm

“When the boats turn up, the Labor Party and Mr Albanese is the person you have to blame,” he said.

Problem with that statement is that the Oz media is treating Luigi the same as the world media is treating LGB .. luvvingly! .. Luigi should be getting excoriated for his bend-over for the queers public disgust, laffed at for his simplistic VOICE pleas and hammered for the failure to address the cost of living for ordinary folk but instead … he’s getting tongue baths from media outlets and is happily lapping up these daily luv fest(s) ….
then we have the problem of the “missing” opposition who, apparently, have decided, publically, opposing Luigi and his gummint antics is pointless and might cost them more than they have already lost … unaware that they have little , if anything, left to lose!
And it’s not just 3 years more cos at this rate Labor might have no serious opposition for a decade, if ever ..!

flyingduk
flyingduk
February 13, 2023 2:28 pm

ATM most people that talk about vaccination in our over 50s village aren’t too worried about the ‘safe’, but rather the ‘effective’.

AKA ‘Survivor bias’?

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
February 13, 2023 2:29 pm

But one thing is for sure. They are enabling a killing off of rational debate as effectively as if they were running Klaus Schwab’s Ministry of Truth. So easy to shoot down ALL discussion of vax harm by pointing to the myriad easily disproved claims by “trusted sources on the innernet”.

Yes.
The rubbish that flushes through the Trusted Bloggosphere is a comfort to Government and all its works.

Claims about UK data proving that the vaxxed are 97.3% more likely to contract/hospitalise/die/turn into zombies, tales about vaxx AIDS, proofs that Government Doesn’t Want You to Know about millions of vaxx excess deaths, anecdotal evidence that a very senior [insert trusted practitioner here] has ‘never seen anything like it’ – all enable public discussion about very real pandemic failings and responsibilities to be deflected and easily kicked into the long grass, demonised as the frothings of sovereign-citizen-antivaxers.

P
P
February 13, 2023 2:30 pm

Joe Biden’s FBI: “Beware of Latin Mass Catholics!” prompted at 33:44

The FBI helps to raise the profile of the worldwide traditional Catholic movement.

So, what’s really going on here, and should all Christians be concerned about this obvious violation of our Frist Amendment rights?

Plus, did you know that these famous FOX NEWS personalities are rosary-toting faithful Catholics?

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
February 13, 2023 2:38 pm

Are there Any White People in America Today?

This question was caused by having to go downstairs and babysit nearly 2 year old Nuerotic Female Beagle in side, while the Lawn People were in work progress, so she does not savahe them (probably unlikely)

To keep myself amused turmed on Ch 7 HD NFL – at same time was watching West Coast Customs making a Steampunk VW Bus Build from 1960s Kombi, fliping between channels whenAds came on

I happened on Rihanna’s Super Bowl Halftime Show Performance a Total Flop (VIDEO) and thought – Totally Black – why no White People? – then you go to the Sports Commentators – 2 Amish plus 2 others – Well as for players – NSW RFL – Samoans vs Maori – but mainly Amish in NFL

Then I find NFL Plays Divisive Black National Anthem Before Super Bowl LVII – With Woke Activist Singer (VIDEO)

Now I know the Amish make up 13% of American Population – But are ther Any White People in America?

Because going on Ads and Articles – they seem to have disapperared

PS – Chiefs win. Chiefs win. Chiefs win.

The miracle they needed fails to arrive and Kansas City are Super Bowl champions. Hurts hurls the ball down the field but no one was anywhere near it. Kansas City win 38-35

From SMH

12.54pm – Will that go down in the pantheon of great half-time shows? Unlikely.

flyingduk
flyingduk
February 13, 2023 2:39 pm

Firstly, do you really believe a campaign of rhetoric based around jumping on every death of anyone under 52 has the remotest chance of shifting public, media and political opinion?

1) Our wise masters set the standard with their own overblown COVID hysteria
2) From Alinsky’s ‘Rules for radicals’: “Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules.”

Roger
Roger
February 13, 2023 2:42 pm

Not the spectacle of someone standing on top of a broken down seeding plant, swearing in five languages?

I defer to your lived experience, Zulu!

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
February 13, 2023 2:43 pm

I feel like I fanned the flames of a debate (regarding vaxx deaths) and then seem to have scurried away.

I haven’t. Just lots of Teams meetings.

Don’t know why. I never got the mRNA vaxx.

flyingduk
flyingduk
February 13, 2023 2:44 pm

And in more ‘experts are baffled’ news:

Scientists are said to be “mystified” as to how Africa (with its low vax rates) fared so well, completely ignoring data showing that the more COVID-19 shots you get, the higher your risk of contracting COVID-19 and ending up in the hospital.

Hence the following ‘trust the science’ advice:

….the WHO is still trying to tell Africa to get jabbed same as has been done in the West, and there seems to be no taking stock of what is going on on the ground on the continent, where the locals for whatever reason, didn’t follow the “expert” template. Now they are fine.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
February 13, 2023 2:56 pm
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
February 13, 2023 2:57 pm

I defer to your lived experience, Zulu!

Once the blood pressure had settled down, it was an interesting exercise in technology. Photograph the parts required on my mobile phone, E-mail the machinery dealer, for price and availability, – available ex Melbourne, overnight, to be collected in town tomorrow afternoon.

No, I don’t miss the “good old days.”

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
February 13, 2023 3:00 pm

I don’t buy the line that because the vaxx-mongers sprayed us with lies then we are entitled to do the same. That is not how I reckon right and wrong -“What did they do?”

If you hope to get the word out on how nefarious the vaxx fans were by doing the same thing you are on a hiding to nothing. They had the MSM on their sides, citing favoured ‘experts’ and echoing government designated health officers. You are taking them on at their strongest point. Your word will not be getting out. What will happen is that, if you manage to make any inroads they will grab some of your discredited claims and broadcast that far louder than you can. You will become known for your errors, and easily dismissed. Perhaps find a little longer life as the punchline of jokes.

Places like Fox News gets more information out. They might not be broadcasting everything you want broadcast but perhaps that is because they know they have to ‘own’ what they do. The steady trickle of true stories is more likely to leach into the public mind than shouting out with a weak voice.

We have already seen on various platforms (happily including Twitter) that a lot of people are angry about the vaccines and mandates. No need dilute the truth with cathartic fibs.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
February 13, 2023 3:01 pm
OldOzzie
OldOzzie
February 13, 2023 3:04 pm

Can Cat Female Bloggers please tell me why Women are always desparate to close down Men Only Instutions – (Single Sex Male Schools, Single Sex Male Colleges, Male Only Clubs ) and clamour to be admitted when

Women’s and Sancta Sophia Colleges will remain single-sex. Said Donnelly: “Ultimately, our strength lies in being a women’s college. Our point of difference would be lost.

From a ‘bone room’ to yoga: St Paul’s College journey on consent

When St Paul’s, the final male bastion among Sydney University’s residential colleges, opened its doors to women, the hope was for healthy interest from both genders. It got a stampede.

Said warden Edward Loane: “St Paul’s College has had more applications than any time in its [more than 165-year] history. An equal number of men and women have applied. There’s been about six applicants for every spot.”

For many years, St Paul’s was an outlier among the colleges for refusing to accept girls at undergraduate level. It also had a reputation for boorish behaviour. In 2017, former vice chancellor Michael Spence said “a deep contempt for women” was a “profound issue in the life of the college, going to its very licence to operate”.

The culture was laid bare in a 2018 report that revealed a mattress-lined “bone room” and humiliating hazing rituals. But the report prompted the college to acknowledge and address that culture. There have been no more scandals.

Women’s and Sancta Sophia Colleges will remain single-sex. Said Donnelly: “Ultimately, our strength lies in being a women’s college. Our point of difference would be lost.

“There’s still a great attraction for women in living together. Not because they are hiding from anything. There are certain benefits, such as access to leadership roles. Women have had the choice [of co-ed at Sydney University] for years, but we still have a great attraction.”

Old Lefty
Old Lefty
February 13, 2023 3:09 pm

Burgess of ASIO defended using the term ‘religiously motivated terrorism’ in Senate Estimates today; apparently some of the Religion of Peace object to it. But does it give him cover for monitoring Latin Mass Catholics?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
February 13, 2023 3:10 pm

Dr F at the bottom of the previous page.
Quite so.

H B Bear
H B Bear
February 13, 2023 3:11 pm

The Liars have certainly rolled the dice on refugees. Over to you people smugglers …

H B Bear
H B Bear
February 13, 2023 3:13 pm

KRuddy’s last appeasement of the Liar Left certainly ended in tears.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
February 13, 2023 3:19 pm

Mother Lodesays:

February 13, 2023 at 3:00 pm

I don’t buy the line that because the vaxx-mongers sprayed us with lies then we are entitled to do the same.

I think whether we are “entitled” or not is moot.
Is it an effective tactic?
Well that depends.
Is your objective to sway what I believe to be a significant and growing minority who are sceptical of further vaxes (on vax effectiveness grounds) and a smaller minority who recognise a level of harm (vax safety)? Probably not.
Or is your objective to die a glorious martyr’s death (figuratively speaking), shouting “I told you so!” from the pyre?
If it is the latter, well, fill your boots.
But don’t be surprised if you end up in the filing cabinet under ‘L’ for ‘Looney’, whether you deserve it or not.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
February 13, 2023 3:20 pm

Africa a medical mystery to the globalist COVID elites

When someone has had success in beating off a global pandemic, shouldn’t they maybe get some kind of laurels? At a minimum, it would makes sense to learn what they learned so as to get the same result. That’s how actual science works, or at least, it did.

Not to the global bureaucrats of the World Health Organization (WHO), which can’t stop telling African countries on a continent that has great success in beating COVID, what to do.

According to the Burning Platform:

Scientists are said to be “mystified” as to how Africa fared so well, completely ignoring data showing that the more COVID-19 shots you get, the higher your risk of contracting COVID-19 and ending up in the hospital.

Over the past year, researchers have been warning that the COVID-19 jabs appear to be dysregulating and actually destroying people’s immune systems, leaving them vulnerable not only to COVID-19 but also other infections.

It stands to reason, then, that Africa with its low injection rate would not be burdened with COVID-19 cases brought on by dysfunctional immune systems.

Secondly, variants have gotten milder (less pathogenic) with each iteration, albeit more infectious (i.e., they spread easier).

So why is the WHO worried about “the risk of new variants creating large waves of serious disease and death in populations with low vaccination coverage”? What is that “risk” based on?

And, since COVID-19 infection keeps getting milder, and has had a lethality on par with or lower than influenza ever since mid-2020 at the latest, why is it still a “crucial priority” to accelerate delivery of COVID-19 treatments?

What part of ‘succeeded’ do they not understand? The Africans did not follow the great lockdown strategies seen in China, most of Western Europe, and most of the U.S., which is why their populations were able to acquire natural immunity as the virus mutated to weaker and weaker versions of itself, which is how pretty much all pandemic viruses play out. They also used ivermectin and other known kill-it-dead cures for the disease, having the widely available and inexpensive treatment available over the fancy-schmancy newest treatments developed by Big Pharma.

In addition, not having the resources, they didn’t pursue a mass vaccination strategy which has led to a host of suspected problems in the populations that did, from myocarditis and blood clots that often led to death in young people, to the emerging issue of suspected mass infertility from the vaccines. If that one turns out to be true, I wrote about that issue here, Africa can now look forward to ruling the earth because after the jabbed populations go extinct, they will be among the few who are left.

Yet amazingly, the WHO is still trying to tell Africa to get jabbed same as has been done in the West, and there seems to be no taking stock of what is going on on the ground on the continent, where the locals for whatever reason, didn’t follow the “expert” template.

Now they are fine, as are the Swedes, who didn’t buy into the mask-lockdown-and-vaccine recommendations of the global public health bureaucrats any more than the Africans did.

It’s just astonishing that the WHO prefers to bull ahead with its failed results instead of listen and learn from those who know how to handle a pandemic. The Africans should be exceptionally proud of their common sense record because they are doing just fine in the wake of the pandemic’s passing.

No kids with learning disabilities and social problems because of masking and school shutdowns. No ruined economies based on mass lockdowns. No mysterious illnesses nor mass sterility which may be a result of mass forced vaccinations.

Doesn’t mean a thing to the WHO, which demonstrates to the rest of us that they aren’t about science, or inquiry, or all of those other supposedly superior western educational values. They should be begging the Africans for advice about how to handle the next pandemic or how to replicate those results, or at a minimum, telling them to just keep doing what they are doing, but instead they are pushing their own bad solutions on them, never mind the evidence that’s standing right there in their faces.

It shows they are not about science but about preserving and perpetrating their own power.

Robert Sewell
Robert Sewell
February 13, 2023 3:32 pm

Shatterzzz:

Who are these boat-folk that don’t already have access to all of the above? .. the NSW HC estate I live in is full of boat-folk who have had no problems accessing gummint housing and everything available across the “welfare” board so who & where are all these folk who missed out?

Who are they? Probably Sudanese.
Where are they? Probably Sudan – outside the Australian Embassy gates, waiting for their paperwork to be processed. Because ‘Refugee’.

calli
calli
February 13, 2023 3:36 pm

Women like to infiltrate formerly “Men’s Only” institutions for a very simple reason – they’re more fun and more interesting.

And then they succeed in turning them into shadows of their former glory by adding lots of behavioural rules…or else.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
February 13, 2023 3:37 pm

Roger earlier.

Like all “reality TV” it’s heavily curated to deliver an entertaining product.

Wheat farming wouldn’t exactly make for great television.

Yes, of course a lot of it is confected, contrived and exaggerated.
And some of the topics are mundane on the surface, but it is all in the delivery.
I won’t be a spoiler, but there is one scene in S2E2 involving the changing of tractor tyres. Ostensibly a subject as boring as batshit but the timing chosen by Clarkson to do the job and the reaction of his right-hand man is priceless.

calli
calli
February 13, 2023 3:40 pm

I see the desire for angry, vengeful ranting is winning out over rational debate, if “approvals” are anything to go by.

Okay, knock yourselves out. It will get you exactly…nowhere.

In other news, lots of discussion at S&B today (Labor voters almost to a woman) over Luigi and his Mardi Gras prancing. Strong disapproval, very strong. Another misreading of his base.

calli
calli
February 13, 2023 3:44 pm

Oh and MoLo, you didn’t make a mistake. It looks like both Cassie and I are on the same page when it comes to overblown, evidence free assertions.

H B Bear
H B Bear
February 13, 2023 3:45 pm

calli at 3:36 – this will not come as news to any member of a golf club. Who could teach the AWU a thing or two about demarcation.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
February 13, 2023 3:49 pm

Women like to infiltrate formerly “Men’s Only” institutions for a very simple reason – they’re more fun and more interesting.

Might be a bit of jealousy in the mix methinks. The attack on Men’s Sheds seems to suggest that. That seems to’ve been a catalyst for a Women’s Sheds movement, which is fun, since men will be quite happy for women to have their own sheds so long as they can be left alone. Which is probably exactly what those particular women really really don’t want. How dare they not subject themselves to bossy women who know best?

(I’ve just pulled on my asbestos line undies to give me protection from the imminent flames.)

calli
calli
February 13, 2023 3:52 pm

Chuckle. I’ve been at the “Women’s Shed” equivalent all day. Lots of fun and very instructive. The odd guy comes in to drop stuff off or do power lead checks and such, then scarpers. Sensible of them.

Dot
Dot
February 13, 2023 3:56 pm

Oh yeah a co ed ressie college is going to solve consent issues merely by existing.

It’s like saying the existence of a currency in itself prevents poverty.

C.L.
C.L.
February 13, 2023 3:57 pm
calli
calli
February 13, 2023 4:04 pm

Rhetoric is effective. But is that which is asserted true? Is the truth of a matter important? Or is winning based on a lie more important?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
February 13, 2023 4:09 pm

The strategy worked.

Sort of. Unfortunately for the bedwetters “every adverse weather event” has been less and less adverse lately. It’s been fun and quite embarassing for them. NOAA for example forecast a more than usually active hurricane season this year and it turned out to be the weakest ever. Ditto tornadoes, drought etc.

Just the Facts on Global Hurricanes (19 Jan)

More storms? Fewer but more intense? More landfalls? No, No and No

They literally couldn’t be more wrong. Which of course doesn’t stop the climateers doing Chicken Little impressions over and over and over. Of course we know how that turned out.

Cassie of Sydney
February 13, 2023 4:10 pm

“Oh and MoLo, you didn’t make a mistake. It looks like both Cassie and I are on the same page when it comes to overblown, evidence free assertions.”

Yes indeed calli.

Mantaray
Mantaray
February 13, 2023 4:13 pm

Dr Faustus (2.29pm) Facts are that the gene-jabbed are no longer human…but “transhuman” in the WEF parlance…..and theoretically cannot be murdered but only killed or culled. Your zombie call’s a very good one!

It matters not how “outlandish” claims appear to be with regard to the mass death event now underway….another little fact is that no-one can name a sudden and unexpected death of anyone between about 40 and 60 (this basically equals: undiagnosed, but not genetic) prior to the gene therapies rollout beginning two years ago.

Out of interest: can YOU name any from say 2019 or earlier?

Vicki
Vicki
February 13, 2023 4:14 pm

Any Cats going to this evening’s talk by Dr. Peter McCullough at Darling Harbour Convention Centre in Sydney?

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
February 13, 2023 4:16 pm

Rhetoric works on the dim. Who would you prefer on your side, a hundred credulous nongs or ten thoughtful ppl concerned with truth?

Johnny Rotten
February 13, 2023 4:18 pm

Rogersays:
February 13, 2023 at 9:49 am
‘Federal government unveils $425 million Closing the Gap plan’

Shouldn’t they have awaited input from the Voice?

So 30 Billion Dollars every year is not enough? Maybe they need this to be indexed to the CPI. Oh, it is?

Pogria
Pogria
February 13, 2023 4:19 pm

Women want to be part of Men’s clubs because, like Calli stated, the really are a lot more, I wouldn’t say fun, I would describe it as “matey”. Mateship is something that has always been sadly lacking amongst 99% of women. Because of the lack of mateship, women end up destroying their own clubs, groups etc.
Witness what has happened to the Country Women’s Association. Whilst the group was based solely in the country, the women by dint of their shared experiences/hardships were able to work together because they were doing it to help their families and communities.
As more country women married city men and moved into cities, they missed their country sisterhood and started urban chapters of the CWA. These worked for a while, but, as time went on, they became infiltrated by the lefty University Arts Graduate types who saw another strong network to poison and destroy. There was a massive shit fight between the genuine CWA and the Sydney group a few years back. The Sydney group wanted to join in with all the rainbow and climate crap. The country group broke away from the Sydney group entirely. I am not entirely sure, but I believe the Sydney group, if not flatlined, is circling the drain.
Most women are like Democrats. They shit where they live, they then see it is better in someone else’s yard, jump the fence believing things will be better for them because it certainly looks better in the other yard. Then they start shitting in the new yard. Rinse and repeat.

Johnny Rotten
February 13, 2023 4:21 pm

Vickisays:
February 13, 2023 at 4:14 pm
Any Cats going to this evening’s talk by Dr. Peter McCullough at Darling Harbour Convention Centre in Sydney?

So he did his visa in the end when those left wing nut jobs were trying to stop him from travelling here. Well done the good Dr.

rosie
rosie
February 13, 2023 4:21 pm

Since when did the entire continent of Africa consisting almosy entirely of third world countries with all the problems associated become the standard bearer for ooh aah on vaccine effectiveness?
Each country in Africa has some statistical information about vaccine delivery percentages and covid deaths, with various degrees of reliability.
We also know they probably don’t have quite as many very old people as Australia, the US, European nations etc.

H B Bear
H B Bear
February 13, 2023 4:22 pm

Rhetoric works on the dim. Who would you prefer on your side, a hundred credulous nongs or ten thoughtful ppl concerned with truth?

Unless the AEC changes the rules – the credulous nongs.

rosie
rosie
February 13, 2023 4:23 pm
rosie
rosie
February 13, 2023 4:27 pm

It’s raining.
Bother.

Vicki
Vicki
February 13, 2023 4:31 pm

Re : the very low vaccination rate and Covid fatalities in Africa:

Some Cats will recall that the John Hopkins “dashboard” which recorded global rates of infections and fatalities showed, very early, correspondingly low rates for both in Equatorial Africa. Note, however, this was not the case for Northern African countries or, indeed, for southern nations like South Africa.

Some may also recall that I (& others) pointed out that the Equatorial countries are heavy prophylactic users (daily, as I understand) of Ivermectin for Dengue, River Blindness and other tropical diseases. The use of the malaria drug Hydroxychloroquine is also common.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Pogria says: February 13, 2023 at 8:28 am
Yeonmi Park is definitely worth a read.

She has an extensive list of (about 10 minutes each) videos on Youtube, excellent listening for when performing a non-thinking repetitive task in the office.
Almost all of them contain some quite shocking stuff, & as said above effectiveness is in the delivery – she delivers in a matter-of-fact manner which emphasizes how normalised the weirdness of North Korea is to the indigenous, & likewise the tribulations of North Korean defectors in China.

She gets stuck right in to South Korea in a couple of the vids. Very scathing of them.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
February 13, 2023 4:34 pm

Lode at 3 bells.

We have already seen on various platforms (happily including Twitter) that a lot of people are angry about the vaccines and mandates. No need dilute the truth with cathartic fibs.

Cathartic fibs.
Excellent!
That was where I was going but didn’t express it as well.
Is your objective;
.1 To win over those who may be having doubts?; or
.2 To engage in a glorious, highly theatrical (but ultimately futile) martyrdom, after the style of The Judean Peoples Front crack suicide squad?

Dunny Brush
Dunny Brush
February 13, 2023 4:34 pm

The Age has declared Mirboo North a remote community. Snork:

Johnny Rotten
February 13, 2023 4:35 pm

OldOzziesays:
February 13, 2023 at 3:20 pm
Africa a medical mystery to the globalist COVID elites

When someone has had success in beating off a global pandemic, shouldn’t they maybe get some kind of laurels? At a minimum, it would makes sense to learn what they learned so as to get the same result. That’s how actual science works, or at least, it did.

Not to the global bureaucrats of the World Health Organization (WHO), which can’t stop telling African countries on a continent that has great success in beating COVID, what to do.

Yes, and how about the WHO and all those Charities advertising on the telly showing Africans how to get clean running water. Once they have the clean water, they can then grow their own food and live longer let alone by not getting diseases from the dirty water.

No, as that is obviously in the ‘too hard basket’.

Useless. All of them and that includes DFAT or whatever they are call themselves here now.

Dunny Brush
Dunny Brush
February 13, 2023 4:36 pm

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
February 13, 2023 4:36 pm

rosiesays:

February 13, 2023 at 4:27 pm

It’s raining.
Bother.

You were warned.
Or maybe that was about earthquakes.
No matter … you were warned.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
February 13, 2023 4:36 pm

Well said, Brush.

Dunny Brush
Dunny Brush
February 13, 2023 4:40 pm
Vicki
Vicki
February 13, 2023 4:41 pm

Bovine Ephemeral Fever – a 3 day “flu” which affects cattle (we call it “Cow Covid”) is breaking out west of the mountains in NSW after all the rain.

Time to break out the Ivermectin “pour-on” drench which we use. Yay! no gloves again. “A little dab will do ya”!

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
February 13, 2023 4:41 pm

Mantaray.

another little fact is that no-one can name a sudden and unexpected death of anyone between about 40 and 60 (this basically equals: undiagnosed, but not genetic) prior to the gene therapies rollout beginning two years ago.

So full of shit.
Laughably full of it.
I can reel off three within my “two degrees of separation” circle who dropped dead in their 40’s in the last ten years BC.
Did I imagine their funerals you idiot?

Cassie of Sydney
February 13, 2023 4:44 pm

“Mantaraysays:
February 13, 2023 at 4:13 pm
Dr Faustus (2.29pm) Facts are that the gene-jabbed are no longer human…but “transhuman” in the WEF parlance…..and theoretically cannot be murdered but only killed or culled. Your zombie call’s a very good one!

It matters not how “outlandish” claims appear to be with regard to the mass death event now underway….another little fact is that no-one can name a sudden and unexpected death of anyone between about 40 and 60 (this basically equals: undiagnosed, but not genetic) prior to the gene therapies rollout beginning two years ago.

Out of interest: can YOU name any from say 2019 or earlier?”

I’m speechless, I’ve read some nonsense in my lifetime but that takes the cake.

bons
bons
February 13, 2023 4:51 pm

It doesn’t seem possible given the weather for the past 18 months but we are now becoming desperate for rain.
The young sorghum is too immature to reach down to the abundant subsoil moisture and is looking dangerously parched. Nothing forecast, so things don’t look good at all.
We were certainly caught out; seeding in advance of the wet season with absolute confidence.
It is the wet season for god’s sake, get wet!
It’s all youse guys fault, talking about bloody Flannery has spooked Gaia.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
February 13, 2023 4:52 pm

Regarding Africa and vaccines Novovax trials were conducted in UK and South Africa. I presume the trials were run under similar conditions. The UK reported 95% efficacy whereas SA was 50%.

I learnt this after a Terry White staff member tried to discourage my wife from taking Novovax and go for Pfizer. She stuck with Novovax.

Some may also recall the SA Dr who first came across Omicron saying in Daily Mail she had been pressured by people in Europe to stop saying it was mild.

The wealthy countries are the biggest buyers of the jabs and in some cases multiple X their population numbers. EU was 10 X.

Dr Phillip Altman in a AMPS seminar last week said the three countries with most draconian mandates etc were Canada, NZ and Oz. He names the person responsible in Oz who just happens to also be the chairperson of the Bill Gates entity CEPI. In May 2020 as an advisor to PM she was happily pushing no jab no job. She was the one who previously pushed no jab no play.

It ain’t over by a long way with them building a Moderna facility in Melbourne with a capacity of 100m jabs per year.

calli
calli
February 13, 2023 4:54 pm

And there we have it. The Purebloods are the real humans and the vaxxed are üntermensch.

It was only a matter of time before someone spelled it out.

calli
calli
February 13, 2023 4:57 pm

But right now I don’t see any urgency to uncover the truth of the matter whatever it is.

I do. But I always would, regardless of the circumstances.

It’s a difference of approach between us Dover.

Mum always said I rushed in where angels fear to tread.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
February 13, 2023 5:08 pm

The Purebloods are the real humans and the vaxxed are üntermensch.

My personal experience is the exact reverse. My blonde mid 20’s hairdresser anathemized me “for sake of her business” after I told her I was not vaccinated. It was pointless to debate, or mention my science qualifications. It was a very deeply emotional thing on her part.

What has happened, as the Left is overtly doing, is to divide the planet into mensch and üntermensch. And overwhelmingly they regard themselves as the mensch.

So when some on the right do exert a little push back I’m willing to give them a go.

calli
calli
February 13, 2023 5:14 pm

So when some on the right do exert a little push back I’m willing to give them a go.

Read Mantaray’s comment again.

Your hairdresser is an idiot. You are better off spending your money elsewhere.

Payback is primitive. It never ends well.

Johnny Rotten
February 13, 2023 5:17 pm

Dunny Brushsays:
February 13, 2023 at 4:34 pm
The Age has declared Mirboo North a remote community. Snork:

Canberra has now been classified as a remote place (maybe it always was). It is so remote from the real world that it’s not funny any more.

Johnny Rotten
February 13, 2023 5:25 pm

War & Disease – What Comes Next After COVID

From Armstrong Economics –

QUESTION: I found it really interesting how you have used the coinage to ascertain the costs of wars and to confirm the history. You have shown coins that show even the opening of the Colosseum. Are there any that record the plagues in history?

Thank you for a free and interesting site.

PV

REPLY: Ancient coins have been used throughout the centuries. Here is a Roman Sestertius of the Roman Port of Ostia. Saint Peter’s Square is the entrance to St Peter’s. Bernini actually copies the idea of the two colonnades from Nero’s coin. Some did not understand the history and claimed that Bernini was symbolizing the embracing maternal arms of the Catholic Church. It was the Port of Ostia which was the entrance to Rome for all the ships around the world. Thus, Bernini used the Port of Ostia to symbolize that this was the entrance for all Christians from around the world.

There was a great plague that infected Rome which was brought from Asia exactly as was the case by invading armies who brought the Black Plague during the 14th century. Emperor Trajan Decius (249-251AD) and his oldest son Herennius Etruscus (251AD) were killed in battle against the invading Goths. His youngest son, Hostilian (251AD) died of the plague.

This coin was issued by Trebonianus Gallus (251-253AD) appealing to Apollo Salutaris who was believed to have been the god of healing. This was the Plague of Cyprian that infected the Roman Empire from about 249 to 262 AD. It takes its name from St. Cyprian, who was the bishop of Carthage. He was a historian who witnessed and described the plague. It is not known precisely what it was. But from the description, it may have been smallpox, measles, and perhaps a viral hemorrhagic fever along the lines of the Ebola virus. What we do know is that this plague weakened Rome during the 3rd century causing a widespread decline in the workforce. That resulted in food shortages for a lack of manpower to produce food for the Roman army itself. This contributed greatly to the collapse of the 3rd century.

The Antonine Plague of 165 to 180AD, was the first known pandemic impacting the Roman Empire. It was most likely contracted by soldiers who were returning from campaigns in the Near East and spread throughout the empire. Historians generally believe the plague was smallpox or possibly measles. In 169 AD, the plague most likely took the life of Roman Emperor Lucius Verus. It appeared, according to ancient sources, during the Roman siege of the Mesopotamian city of Seleucia in the winter of 165–166. According to the Roman historian Cassius Dio at the time, the disease broke out again nine years later in 189 AD. That time he said it caused up to 2,000 deaths per day in the city of Rome. The total death count at the time ranged between 5 and 10 million. About 25T of those who contracted the plague died. This amounted to about 10% of the population.

A third major plague struck during the 6th century. Research has been conducted on skeletons that have survived. It has been confirmed that DNA from Yersinia pestis—the same bacterium responsible for the Black Death—was the cause of the Justinianic plague. This plague also became a pandemic that spread throughout the Mediterranean region and beyond.

What is significant about this plague is that it took place during a Volcanic Winter. There were the great volcanic eruptions that created the extreme weather events of 535–536AD during the reign of the Byzantine Emperor Justinian I (527-565AD). A mysterious cloud appeared over the Mediterranean basin according to the historian Procopius of Caesarea (Procopius Caesarensis; c. 500-560 AD) who wrote: “The sun gave forth its light without brightness, and it seemed exceedingly like the sun in eclipse, for the beams it shed were not clear.” This was a volcanic cloud that blocked the sun. But it was not a volcano in that region. The cloud’s appearance created climate cooling for more than a decade. Crops failed, and there was widespread famine. This also sets in motion a pandemic known as the Plague of Justinian (541-542), which swept through the Eastern Roman Empire killing 5,000 to 10,000 people per day in Constantinople.

War has been the catalyst for disease. Why? The movement of populations from one region to another has historically spread disease. Even when the Europeans visited America, they brought diseases that killed many Indians. Likewise, Europeans who had sex with Indian women brought back to Europe Syphilis which did not previously exist in Europe. The Black Plague of the 14th century was brought about by the invading Tartars in Crimea. They began catapulting dead bodies into the Italian fort which then panicked and took the disease back to Europe.

The Spanish flu pandemic of 1918, the deadliest in history, infected an estimated 500 million people worldwide—about one-third of the planet’s population—and killed an estimated 20 million to 50 million victims, including some 675,000 Americans. Once again, it coincided with World War I.

What we must be on guard against as our World Leaders are pushing to war once again, this one will engage the entire world. The likelihood of another major pandemic will be huge. What will it be this time? Normally, we should expect it to be the Black Plague. However, with the genetic manipulation and gain of function these people have been toying with, we cannot rule out that this time will be along the lines of COVID where the vaccines failed to prevent anyone from contracting COVID and actually made most more vulnerable in the future.”

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/world-news/war/war-disease-what-comes-next-after-covid/?utm_source=Newsletter&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=RSS

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
February 13, 2023 5:28 pm

I see the convicted fraudster Martin Armstrong is still writing sycophantic Dorothy Dixers to himself.

Johnny Rotten
February 13, 2023 5:30 pm

Ukraine war: Russians slowly take ground around Bakhmut

“Ukraine’s President Volodymyr Zelensky has called the eastern city “our fortress”. Russian forces have spent the past six months trying to capture Bakhmut. Now they have intensified their onslaught – Ukraine believes – to tear it down ahead of the anniversary of the invasion.”

From the BBC –

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-64596363

Johnny Rotten
February 13, 2023 5:32 pm

Sancho Panzersays:
February 13, 2023 at 5:28 pm
I see the convicted fraudster Martin Armstrong is still writing sycophantic Dorothy Dixers to himself.

I see that Mrs Stencho Pantyhose is still as deluded as always……………………..

m0nty
m0nty
February 13, 2023 5:34 pm

Rihanna’s Super Bowl Halftime Show Performance a Total Flop (VIDEO)

She was pregnant, apparently. Does that change your criticism? Or is just being black enough.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
February 13, 2023 5:36 pm

Your hairdresser is an idiot. You are better off spending your money elsewhere.

Sadly yes. And yes. And that’s what I do. But she, as a very ordinary uneducated young Australian, was an interesting barometer for me: they regard the unvaccinated as unclean. They are scared of us. And there’ve been many cases of actual hatred for the unvaccinated for “risking” the health of the vaccinated.

We’ve seen this stuff before, as you know, 80 years ago. It is completely illogical and unscientific. But it is real. And the persecuted aren’t the vaccinated.

So, chill. Hopefully with time it will all settle down. But never forget who it was who did this.

H B Bear
H B Bear
February 13, 2023 5:36 pm

Normally, we should expect it to be the Black Plague.

“Nobody expects the Black Plague!”. Or something.

CrazyOldRanga
CrazyOldRanga
February 13, 2023 5:36 pm

Mirboo North Italian Festa coming up. Who’s going ? 🙂

Johnny Rotten
February 13, 2023 5:39 pm

A wealthy couple prepared to go out for the evening. The woman of the house gave their butler, Jervis, the night off. She said they would return home very late, and she hoped he would enjoy his evening.

The wife wasn’t having a good time at the party. So, she came home early, alone. Her husband stayed on, socializing with important clients. As the woman walked into her house, she found Jervis by himself in the dining room. She called him to follow her, and led him into the master bedroom.

She turned to him and said, in the voice she knew he must obey “Jervis, I want you to take off my dress”. This he did, hanging it carefully over a chair.

“Jervis” she continued “now take off my stockings and garter belt”. Again, Jervis silently obeyed.

“Now, Jervis, I want you to remove my bra and panties”. Eyes downcast, Jervis obeyed.

Both were breathing heavily, the tension mounting between them. She looked sternly at him and said “Jervis, if I ever catch you wearing my stuff again, you’re fired!”

Johnny Rotten
February 13, 2023 5:42 pm

My cousin’s gay. He went to London only to find out that Big Ben was a clock.

– Rodney Dangerfield

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
February 13, 2023 5:43 pm

Flannery.
Flannery.
Flannery!
FLANNERY!!!
Take that!

calli
calli
February 13, 2023 5:44 pm

So, chill. Hopefully with time it will all settle down. But never forget who it was who did this.

Cool as, Bruce. What we’re seeing is the two sides of the same coin and it’s being flipped to suit the audience.

The term “Pureblood” isn’t accidental either. It’s calculated to push certain buttons. As you say the idea is to divide and it’s a successful strategy. The solution is not to play along, but for some the temptation is irresistible.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
February 13, 2023 5:45 pm

The Age has declared Mirboo North a remote community. Snork:

Gippsland town Mirboo North serves up a bella Italian festa

1 day agoThe cost of travel has soared during the COVID-19 pandemic, but crowds in a small South Gippsland town enjoyed a trip to Italy on Sunday without the jetlag or airfares. Mirboo North’s Italian …

I didn’t know that Italians were now Indigenous Australians – I can now join my Wife & Kids as Indigenous

The cost of travel has soared during the COVID-19 pandemic, but crowds in a small South Gippsland town enjoyed a trip to Italy on Sunday without the jetlag or airfares.

Mirboo North’s Italian Festa was a dazzling display of la dolce vita for thousands of visitors to streets rich with the aroma of garlic, the sight of margherita pizzas being eaten and the sound of 1960s Euro-pop.

Everyone from toddlers to 90-year-olds had a bella giornata (beautiful day) at the free event on a fine day in the town’s Baromi Park, 150 kilometres south-east of Melbourne. It was an Italophile’s dream come true.

You could take selfies with Roman soldier role-players, watch grape-stomping and a spaghetti-eating competition, and admire vintage Alfa Romeo cars.

It was the first festa held since 2020.

Gazing over the festivities were Rosie Romano and Gina Carpinteri, who recruited others to help them create the festa in 2016 and are among 10 women on the volunteer committee.

The festa grew out of the St Paul’s Festival; after World War II, migrants from the town of Solarino in Sicily settled in Mirboo North and worked on potato and dairy farms.

They were devout Catholics, and in 1966 they began an annual procession carrying a statue, made in Italy, of St Paul, the apostle said to have visited Solarino.

The St Paul’s Festival in Mirboo North would be followed by a feast and music, but was largely confined to the Italian community.

Eight years ago, the festival was waning as older residents died or people moved away.

So Romano and Carpinteri, both of Italian descent and married to sons of migrants from Solarino, created the Italian Festa, with its own Facebook page, seeking to engage the wider community, especially young people.

It’s now one of Gippsland’s biggest events. This year, there was live music, cooking demonstrations and flag-throwing by a troupe visiting from Faenza, Italy. There were 150 food stalls, some of which were selling local blueberries, honey and vegetables, and Italian arancini, gelati and biscotti.

One home-made pasta stall sold out before noon.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
February 13, 2023 5:48 pm

I may move in different circles.
I haven’t seen or heard of anyone being excluded from a private business for 12 months.
I can’t remember the last time anyone asked for my Nazi pass.
The V-word has only been mentioned in relation to Japanese travel – at the Japanese end before our antsy limey gets started.

Frank
Frank
February 13, 2023 5:56 pm

Or is just being black enough.

Pretty low, Monty.

rosie
rosie
February 13, 2023 5:58 pm

Maybe women like to infiltrate men’s only institutions because they like men.
#ihateswymenses

calli
calli
February 13, 2023 6:00 pm

I couldn’t have a haircut at my local salon. Cats know I was vaxxed in very late 2021. They decided that the unvaxxed were not welcome. So I refused to go there too. Suck merde.

A minuscule and possibly useless stand I suppose. But it gave me a sense of solidarity with guys like Bruce. We could both look like scarecrows and scare small children. 😀

H B Bear
H B Bear
February 13, 2023 6:02 pm

Covid was a test for many of our institutions- media, parliament, the executive government, the courts and academia. Few emerge with their reputation enhanced.

rosie
rosie
February 13, 2023 6:02 pm

St Paul definitely visited Siracusa.
so why not Solarino?

rosie
rosie
February 13, 2023 6:07 pm

I think I told my hairdresser I was vaxxed, she was anxious about it, and I felt sorry for her being out of work for so long.

rosie
rosie
February 13, 2023 6:12 pm

I’m off to Malta today.
Train options to the town with the ferry port were 5 something am or 10.30, then a one hour train trip, ferry leaves at 14.00 barring disasters I should get there in plenty of time.
I arrived at the train station three hours too early and got told something something oggi which put me in a mild panic that trains were all cancelled til the train dude showed me the screen with the scheduled 10.30 train.
I’m now assuming he was telling me there wasn’t a train til 10.30.
I bought my ticket.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
February 13, 2023 6:14 pm

.2 To engage in a glorious, highly theatrical (but ultimately futile) martyrdom, after the style of The Judean Peoples Front crack suicide squad?

Well not to impinge your logic, but wheres the Roman Empire now, eh? EH?!!!

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
February 13, 2023 6:14 pm

why not Solarino?

The ships they took, like the one from Syracuse to Rhegium, are so reminiscent of the intercity buses and trains you’ve been taking Rosie! And the entertainments in the amphitheatre were probably as good as we have, if in different style.

Mole was nearly bitten by a snake yesterday, he was lucky it wasn’t a Maltese snake.

rosie
rosie
February 13, 2023 6:18 pm

If a hairdresser refused to cut your hair post mandates being removed she was obviously irrationally afraid of the unvaxxed.
Is she now over it?
There are always going to be people at the extremes.
For most people vaccine status ceased to be of any interest a year ago.

Johnny Rotten
February 13, 2023 6:19 pm

From a concerned Australian Taxpayer and Voter –

“When I look and see the list of events, WE provide the Aboriginal people every year in this country and all I want is one day to celebrate as an Australian, they are offended by this and say we are being racist towards them and offending their culture

Well let me say that I’m offended that they are entitled to 22 days, which is paid for by the Australian taxpayer.

Let me say that I’m also offended that the Australian taxpayer contributes over $30 billion, YES billion every year through Centrelink to Aboriginal people.

Let me say that I’m tired of hearing every day that we invaded this country.

Let me say that I’m tired of being told that this is their country by the politicians, media and so on. Could you imagine what this country would be like without those who now call Australia home?

I’m totally offended that there is NO recognition of the early settlers who came to this country and built the infrastructure that developed it into the powerhouse nation that all people living in this country have benefited to enjoy the lifestyle that exists today.

I’m also offended by Welcome to Country ceremonies that are being held every day somewhere in this country, which again is being paid for by the Australian taxpayer.

I’m also offended that the Australian and State Governments that have forced upon ANZAC DAY this Welcome to Country. If it had not been for our Diggers past and present they would not be in any position to force this on the Australian Military.

I’m also offended that our police forces Australia wide have been placed in a position by the media and State Governments, that they are the guilty party if they dare arrest an Aboriginal person.

Last but NOT least we can celebrate in this country Halloween, Chinese New Year and many other cultural events, BUT we are being forced by the Greens, the Left wing politicians, the WOKE Canberra society, “Our ABC”, the media and by many who are NOT of Aboriginal decent to abandon Australia Day.

It will be a SAD day for this country if it happens and once they have achieved this. The next plan will be to change the Australian Flag and probably give this country an Aboriginal name.”

13th of February – National Apology Day
19th of March – Close the Gap Day
21st of March – Harmony Day
26th of May – National Sorry Day
3rd of June – Mabo Day
4th of August – National Aboriginal Children’s Day
9th of August – International Day of the World’s Indigenous People
5th of September – Indigenous Literacy Day

And, there are another 14 days apparently which includes Reconciliation Week (7 days) and NAIDOC Week (7 days).

Not too sure about the accuracy of all of this. BUT FMD if true……………………..

rosie
rosie
February 13, 2023 6:19 pm

In terms of the topic on everyone’s lips, of course mandates were still an issue in some workplaces.

Cassie of Sydney
February 13, 2023 6:19 pm

“And the persecuted aren’t the vaccinated.”

They are here.

Boambee John
Boambee John
February 13, 2023 6:23 pm

m0ntysays:
February 13, 2023 at 5:34 pm
Rihanna’s Super Bowl Halftime Show Performance a Total Flop (VIDEO)

She was pregnant, apparently. Does that change your criticism? Or is just being black enough.

No. If she wasn’t well enough to do the show, then another performer should have been brought in. Nothing at all with race. Why are leftards so race -obsessed? Blacks, Jews, who else is in your sights?

feelthebern
feelthebern
February 13, 2023 6:26 pm

Speculation in financial circles is that Lowe will announce his resignation shortly.
At this stage it’s now a big feedback loop.

Figures
Figures
February 13, 2023 6:35 pm

Speculation in financial circles is that Lowe will announce his resignation shortly.
At this stage it’s now a big feedback loop.

Buy bitcoin and anything else inflation proof – energy mostly.

Labor will replace him with an MMT adherent.

House prices will go back up. Of course paying 2000 a week for groceries won’t be much fun.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

m0nty says: February 13, 2023 at 5:34 pm

Rihanna’s Super Bowl Halftime Show Performance a Total Flop (VIDEO)

She was pregnant, apparently. Does that change your criticism?

This comment is sufficient grounds to sack a management employee.
Deservedly so.

Indolent
Indolent
February 13, 2023 6:35 pm

Now the truth comes out. This is what all the suffering was based on.

Dr. Eli David
@DrEliDavid

This is how they faked the pandemic. It was all a theater

rosie
rosie
February 13, 2023 6:40 pm

I didn’t even know who Rhianna was.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
February 13, 2023 6:40 pm

Is she now over it?

I don’t know Rosie. I haven’t wanted to give her a hard time, so I haven’t gone back. I have no bad feelings, the time was pretty crazy – not her fault nor mine. She owns her own hairdressing business, she seems to be a sole trader, and that’s a fine thing.

rosie
rosie
February 13, 2023 6:42 pm

You should stick your head in the door and say hello then Bruce.

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