Grandpa Ed turns the raaaaaasciiiissssssm to high.

Abolhassan Astaneh-Asl, a structural engineering professor at the University of California at Berkeley, explained that the high temperatures in the fires weakened the steel beams and columns, causing them to become “soft and mushy”, and eventually they were unable to support the structure above.
Yeah, “soft and mushy”.

Blacksmiths are a conspiracy theory…

Pales into insignificance next to the energy content of 100 tonnes of kerosene.
That’s what brought down the tower.

No fire has ever collapsed a concrete and steel building before.
As a matter of fact, there’s never been structural damage from a fire.

Including the Liberator Bomber that hit the 79th floor of the 102 storey Empire State Building.
One engine went straight thru and out the other side, the other straight down a liftwell.
Guess what?
The building opened for business the next day

Having been advised about eight times that he’s wrong:

Including the Liberator Bomber that hit the 79th floor of the 102 storey Empire State Building.

It persists.

This is Burns-esque. Monty or Joe, take your pick.

No fire has ever collapsed a concrete and steel building before.

LOL.
Don’t ever try for an engineering position with the Roman Army, Ed.
They knew this stuff well before Christ was born.

I also might know a bit about this stuff, since I’ve been called a metallurgist from time to time.
People who only experience room temperature and pressure amuse me.
There’s a whole universe of other worlds out there.

The only part of the twin tower collapse that doesn’t add up for me was the collapse of the second tower.

Based on the footage, the aircraft took out the corner of the building.
The laws of physics would dictate that the top of the building would break off towards the weakened area.

Instead, the building collapsed perfectly upon itself (like a controlled demolition).

I’ve never been able to work that out…

Which tower did the Liberator hit again?

Fight you bastards, fight…
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2023/apr/19/lidia-thorpe-hits-back-as-pm-suggests-health-issues-could-be-behind-strip-club-altercation

The former Greens senator on Wednesday described Albanese’s comments as “insulting”.

“Small penis, small penis,” Thorpe was filmed saying to men outside the nightclub.
After one man asked “how the fu5k does someone get in parliament like you?”, Thorpe responded: “We’ve been repressed all our fu5king life in this country and you let this little dog speak.”

Apparently film is “right wing” now.

Fire – How it Affects Structural Steel Framing

Note particularly Figs 2.1 and 2.2.

“What Happens to Steel During a Fire?

Physical and material property changes occur within the structural steel framing during a fire event. Thermal elongation, strength reduction, and a reduction in stiffness can occur. Due to the property changes deformations and buckling can occur at 600°F. If a structural steel framing member, such as a beam or girder, is completely constrained at its connections, deformation and buckling can occur as low as 250°F. Typically though buckling of the member occurs around 1,300°F due to the 50% reduction in strength and stiffness (Depicted in the graphs above).”

Rose’s motive was to see grandkids travel was a distant second.
You are confusing her with someone else.

Not me, I hope, Bespoke.

I have my daughter, her husband and three grandchildren in Queensland.

We went up there whenever we could between lockdowns. Had to show a certificate of vaxx to do so.

As I am older than Rosie, travel was also important to both me and Hairy before we get older; we lost two of the best retirement travel years with Covid restrictions. We went to the UK in May last year, some of the first cabs off the rank in flights. Also, early returners to cruises, taking up the Panama cruise in October last year, vaxx essential for boarding and for shore excursions to many countries on the way. Older people here might understand the urgency for us of getting travelling in pronto.

What the Arrente are saying is that her people [the Warlpiri], brought their problems to Alice Springs from Yuendumu, and that Price is a troublemaker

The Arrente are a subgroup of the Walpiri, who range from the SA Pitlands right up to Lajamanu and Kalkarindji.

A helpful preview of the unifying representation the Voice is designed to bring – objective, evidence-based, broad yet well integrated, and aimed at delivering ‘best outcomes’. Properly advised like this, Australian executive government will be an ornament on the tree of democracy.

It’s only good manners.

Eddles, the Empire State building is a mass of concrete,
It’s a steel frame building, JC.
Lotta photographs, here’s one.

Ed, if a large piece of the tallest building in the world falls onto a smaller building, the smaller building just might collapse too. Gravity and mass have consequences son.

No it wasn’t “a coupla miles” away. Photo here. 7 WTC is top centre of the photo.

Building 7 was a couple of blocks away from One WTC. Which you’d know if you ever travelled to NY or looked at a map.

Do you ever check details before posting or is the standard of discourse among the left so low that facts are considered “far right wing” and/or “toxic mansplaining”

Velocity is squared in calculating kinetic energy.

Pales into insignificance next to the energy content of 100 tonnes of kerosene.
That’s what brought down the tower.

That’s certainly true to the extent that it ignited the estimated 60 tonnes of combustibles on each affected floor – that burned for over an hour before the buildings collapsed. An estimated third of the fuel burned outside the building in the initial fireballs – the rest was effectively consumed within minutes [2.2.1.2 Fire Development].

Although, wait, that’s what the Government wants us to believe.
Hmmmm…

ASIO has warned the government that “hostile foreign powers” are testing Australia’s security clearance system by targeting possibly disloyal personnel inside government agencies.

Yeah, these ASIO guys can’t stand one bit of competition!

Ed, if a large piece of the tallest building in the world falls onto a smaller building, the smaller building just might collapse too. Gravity and mass have consequences son.

Son?
Yeah, Bruce.
And if Ifs & Buts were Cherries & Nuts, every day would be Christmas Day.

H B Bear says: April 20, 2023 at 4:40 pm

Jebus. Now Brittany’s dog is under threat.

Ed! We need a panties crotch sitrep on the dog, stat!

A shame that a lively forum like this is spending time speculating & fact-checking on the cause(s) behind 9/11 falling buildings like WTC 7. Some facts can be found on WTC 7 here – hopefully before more useless, fact-free speculation clutters this forum.

How to find a cut on your finger quickly.

Charge a battery a bit longer than you should and put in back in place without washing it down first.

The White House has accused Brazilian President Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva of repeating Russian and Chinese propaganda.

Quite sure the White House pushed this guy overtly and made veiled threats when the mob was running amok in Brazil. LOL They sure know how to pick them…

https://freshwaterstrategy.com/2023/04/18/exclusive-freshwater-strategy-polling-on-the-voice-for-sky-news/

April 18, 2023

Exclusive: Freshwater Strategy polling on ‘The Voice’ for Sky News

– Support for a The Voice has fallen by more than 8pts since December

– Support for The Voice has been steadily declining over the past year

A former Supreme Court judge predicts the Indigenous voice will paralyse the Australian parliament

Given that the seem to be consistently working towards screwing everyone this isn’t a bad thing.

Although, wait, that’s what the Government wants us to believe.

A controlled demolition, that footage of the aeroplanes colliding previously was just a coincidence. They were remotely controlled anyway, empty, the supposed passengers are in some CIA black site to this day. All a ruse to allow MacChimplerBurton free access to the oilfields of the Middle East. Rosie O’Donnel told me.

Ahh, good times they were.

Which tower did the Liberator hit again?

The Jenga tower of Ed’s consciousness.

It would seem Netflix has produced a new mini-series called Queen Cleopatra, which depicts Cleopatra as black.

The Egyptians aren’t happy.

Egyptian lawyer sues Netflix for ‘blackwashing history’ over new Cleopatra documentary (20 Apr)

A furious Egyptian attorney has filed a lawsuit against Netflix after the streaming service produced a new documentary depicting Cleopatra as a Black woman.

In the reenactment scenes of the trailer for Queen Cleopatra the show has depicted her as being black.

The move has led many people on social media to slam Netflix for ‘Blackwashing’ the historical figure.

According to the Egypt Independent, lawyer Mahmoud al-Semary filed a case with the Public Prosecutor to see Netflix shut down in his country in the wake of the trailer release of Queen Cleopatra.

All explicable when you consider that the paler Egyptians have been fighting the duskier Sudanese for six thousand years. The Greeks aren’t happy either.

New Netflix Documentary Forgets Cleopatra was Greek (14 Apr)

PS: The best notch you can use for tree felling is one called a “Humbolt Notch”. It looks very counter intuitive but ultimately engages much more of the stump in resisting the force induced by the falling trunk. So much so that the end of the trunk is normally projected 1-2m from the stump. Worksafe British Columbia has some excellent training videos on YouTube for their basic dimensions and use.

“On Saturday night I was provoked and stood up for myself,” Senator Thorpe said in statement on Thursday. “No one was hurt. The story should be about the racists brazenly harassing a senator. The story is that I can’t go out without being harassed by racists. This is the racism Blak people deal with everyday in this colony.”

Brazenly harassing a senator? Do you know who I am?

She just keeps digging herself in deeper and deeper.

The vast majority of Australians would just see her as an angry drunk doing a number after too many … let’s just say G&Ts, or Pimms and lemonade. Maybe sherries at the Vicarage.

Oh, wait – she was at a 50th birthday party at a strip club, something that almost any MP might have in their appointments book, right?

Not.

Look, I don’t care if she has a raucous private life. But when she, as a Senator, starts arguments inside the club by accusing people of being racists and then carries it further outside as we have seen, claiming that she was harassed ‘as a Senator’ is making the one that plays Jingle Bells … jingle.

Your turn, Ed, what is your justification for your observations?

Dont rush him, hes squatting over the mirror as we speak laying out a new justification.

Oh, wait – she was at a 50th birthday party at a strip club, something that almost any MP might have in their appointments book, right?

Paging Mr Rudd, Mr Rudd to the courtesy phone…

In interviews yesterday Mr Rudd admitted visiting Scores and said he had been too drunk to remember much of what had happened. He said he was not normally a big drinker.
The tabloid Sunday Telegraph also alleged that the father-of-three was cautioned by management for touching the strippers and had been asked to leave the club. “I have absolutely no recollection of that,” said Mr Rudd, “but if my behaviour caused any offence to anybody whatsoever that evening I, of course, wholeheartedly apologise.”

Good news from the irrepressible Ross Cameron, Go Go John Ruddick (MLC, NSW!), man of dedication Rob Cribb and the unstoppable Victor Tey!

Dear Dot Dottson of Dottington Palace,

This afternoon the NSW Electoral Commission held its “final distribution of preferences” confirming that Liberal Democrats candidate John Ruddick has been elected to the NSW Legislative Council for an eight year term with 162,755 votes, 3.53% of the statewide vote. This is the first time the Liberal Democrats have won a seat in the NSW Upper House, Australia’s oldest legislative chamber and gives the party elected representation in the two most populous Australian states after the success of David Limbrick in Victoria. We are not blind to the immediate, material benefit to the NSW Liberal Democrats of a member in the chamber, an office and two full-time staff and, by the rorts of incumbency, an annual cash allowance for party administration costs.

For some perspective, the result represents a 62% increase on the party’s result in the 2022 NSW Senate race and an even greater advance on the NSW State Election in 2019. Ironically, after securing both Liberal and National Party preferences at #2 statewide for the first time, we have been comfortably elected without the benefit of any preference flows because of the way the quotas filled, securing victory at #19 out of 21 vacant spots (with Shooters, Fishers and Farmers winning #20 and Rachel Merton scraping over the line just ahead of Animal Justice to give the Liberal Party #21 and seven in total.

One of the great things about the result for John Ruddick and the Party is that the Upper House is now evenly split 21:21 between the Left (ALP, Greens, Animal Justice, Cannabis) and the non-Left (Liberal/Nationals, One Nation, Liberal Democrats and Shooters), before election of the President which will deprive (probably the ALP) of another vote, meaning the Government will have to negotiate with the cross bench to pass every piece of legislation.

We may indulge a little speculation on how the Liberal Democrats managed such a startling rise in the statewide vote, as the thieves gather after the heist to divide the spoils. There may be some benefit, however, beyond self-gratification, in learning from what worked and didn’t work, so that we may build electoral momentum for the NSW Division’s next major contests, which are the Senate race (probably late 2024 but possibly early 2025) and the next State election in four year’s time. The factors were a mix of candidate, luck, strategy and execution and the weight of each factor clearly contestable, with well informed and thoughtful people having different views but my own rough list of key factors would include:

We ran a clear, bold, unapologetic libertarian candidate and policy, which was right in principal and gave us the best chance of retaining our base and harvesting the homeless and disaffected Freedom Movement votes.
The failure of the UAP to register as a political party in NSW left 160,000 votes as drifting refugees looking for a new port (note to self – we gotta’ get the basics right).
The poor result for One Nation (achieving 5% and only one seat against expectation of 10%+) followed failure to allocate preferences or engage with other freedom parties and internal tension neutralising Pauline Hanson’s electoral appeal.
Turning Point helped deliver 17 candidates in the Lower House and 17 in the Upper House, including Millie Fontana (PHON) at #2 and Natalie Dumer (UAP) at #3, which acted as glue and permission for UAP, PHON, IMOP etc to vote LibDems.
The preference deal with Liberals and Nationals meant we had over a million how to vote cards, endorsing LibDems at #2, handed out by Liberal and National volunteers, creating an explicit permission for Liberals and Nationals to vote LibDems.
In the limited time available after our internal spasm on Boxing Day 2022, (Ed: LOL!) the new State Executive, Campaign Director Rob Cribb, donors, volunteers and the Party as a whole united and mobilised around the candidate as one credible, vote-winning machine.

I don’t think anyone should under-estimate the importance of John Ruddick’s individual merits as a candidate, including his 10 years of work as a democratic reformer building alliances within and beyond the Liberal Party and then on SMH, Sky News, the Spectator and elsewhere. There is no substitute for conviction. For a candidate to succeed, however, he or she must also have the ability to attract talent, build a team, reach beyond the usual suspects to create something new and bigger, more than the sum of the parts. In the end, the voter must mark a box, on a piece of paper, next to an individual name – 162,755 voters selected “John Ruddick” and as a party, we can be thankful for John’s willingness to run, for Kelly’s instinct to support him so completely and for Mamma BooBoo Ruddick’s amazing individual effort as a volunteer, worthy of the best traditions of the cadres of the Chinese Communist Party. Most minor party MPs disappear without trace – I think possible Ruddick could emerge as a significant figure on the rational right.

The decision of Turning Point (Joel Jammal and Millie Fontana) to commit early to the Liberal Democrats campaign delivered a range of benefits not immediately visible from outside. Turning Point’s “How to vote Freedom” card, with John Ruddick at the very top, was downloaded over 60,000 times (interestingly, almost exactly the number of new votes the party won beyond the 2022 Senate result). Millie Fontana was the first advocate of Craig Kelly running at #2 on a LibDems freedom movement ticket and we only went to Millie when Craig declined, where Millie executed the strategy she had largely conceived. Both Joel and Millie did fantastic work in recruiting candidates from across the Freedom Movement and there is no doubt in my mind, beyond the benefits of luck, that Turning Point was our “winged keel”, with the right strategy at the right time and backed up with very solid execution. I am therefor grateful to the Liberal Democrats rank and file membership, the long term party members and candidates, for the grace, wisdom and street smarts, to support the Lead Candidate, State Executive and Campaign Director in allowing “foreigners” onto our ticket, in order to maximise the total LibDems vote.

The NSW Division is benefiting from a very cohesive and skilled State Executive, who are a happy band of brothers, and I would acknowledge the outstanding individual efforts of Rob Cribb as Campaign Director, who worked himself to near hospitalisation and to Victor Tey, who completed the excellent Candidate website and corflute design as his wife was going into labour. I would also (excuse the nepotism) like to thank my son Dougal, who played the key role, along with Rob Cribb and Nathan Thomason, in recruiting both Ruddick and me to the Liberal Democrats, which Dougal described accurately, “as the only real libertarian party on The Australian political landscape.”

You may recall, my first and only myopic goal as your president, was to get Ruddick elected to parliament. The question now happily arising is “What next?” On that subject, the most obvious thing that stands out in my mind, from an organisational standpoint, is that over 160,000 people voted LibDems but close to only 400 of them are party general members. We must add them to the rolls. Secondly, I am keen to see the Liberal Democrats continue to play a leadership role in welding together disparate elements of the freedom loving, rational non-Left and finally, I want to see the Party deliver to John Ruddick the level of support and resources that his vision clearly merits and deserves.

On those matters, the State Executive and I will detain you further in due course but for the time being, thanks for your terrific support throughout the campaign, congratulations to John Ruddick and every Liberal Democrat – you are the true believers, this victory is deservedly yours, broad sunlit uplands await.

With kind regards,

Onward!

The Hon Ross Cameron
President
NSW Liberal Democrats

Paging Mr Rudd, Mr Rudd to the courtesy phone…

Surely there is a (union-provided) training course for Green/Labor/teal pollies on how to do strip clubs right? Lidia had to play the race card to stay out of Jail. Rudd used the standard “… don’t recall”.

Elbow would probably repeat his “housing commission + single parent” speech which works for most crowds and causes, throwing in some tears if needed …

Re someone upthread whose bank is suddenly demanding ID.

Today, I rang the Grab ‘n’ Go medical centre I have been using for more than five years to book a phone appointment. It is a tedious and time/money wasting ritual for elderly patients with arthritis who require pain relief. Mine is at the bottom of the scale, 50mg Tramadol slow release, but it requires renewal every month and a Health Department approval number. That is because otherwise I would probably sell them down at the pub or something, if I had the chance.

Anyway, I phoned the Grab ‘n’ Go to make an appointment, and was informed that they now require a ‘three point identification’ to make an appointment, whether in person or over the phone. They already have have all the information, like my name, date of birth, and address.

It seems like the quest for more and more of our personal information, just waiting to be hacked, marches on.

johanna it was me who whinged about my bank asking for info after 16.5+ years of being a customer they’ve made a bit of money out of.

Now I cannot condone illegal activity, but I am not surprised at all that people use drug dealers.

Honestly – you may be healthier using a small amount of cannabis if you’re not going to drive anywhere.

You are right about these data breaches. The institutions are weak because an attack on them has economies of scale. I have had a credit/debit card number copied once and that’s all the fraud I have directly encountered. It is more likely the bank had a lot of other CC numbers stolen than my poor security because I rarely used that card online.

I tore the letter up last night.

GoT marathon.

Not the last season. The better stuff, about halfway through.

Moxely was killed by the Skakel father, wasn’t she?
No, Skakel’s grandson was convicted.
George Skakel was extremely wealthy from Coal and Shipping on the Great Lakes.
Robert Kennedy Sr married one of his daughters, that’s where the initial funding for RFK Jr’s run likely originates.
Michael Skakel is RFK Jr’s cousin, Kennedy wrote a book proclaiming Skakel’s innocence.
Kennedy is also onboard with the Ukraine War, that might change if it gets unpopular.

Zulu. rubbish, members of the Floyd loved Syd. The breakup was ugly and messy, but not malicious.

Maybe you have never been closely associated with a young man who has what is called ‘schizophrenia’ , but I have. It’s a thing that hits young men, 18-22, often guys who are on track to be high achievers.

Essentially they drift further and further from what most people call reality. On one level they know this and are very frightened. On the other, all kinds of delusions are rampant.

Early Floyd was not a psychiatric hospital. It was not their fault.

Shine On, you Crazy Diamond, was just the right description of young Syd Barrett.

Johanna:

It seems like the quest for more and more of our personal information, just waiting to be hacked, marches on.

They don’t give a shit about the personal information, Johanna. They want to make the process so unwieldy and bureaucratic that you decide it’s not worth the trouble any more and join the que for termination.
If you don’t believe me, check out the rate at which Canadians and Dutch are settling for euthanasia.

Syd Barretts first name was Rodger.

Might sound dodgy but personally I got sick of branches asking too many questions about what I was using my money on, sign here and oh could you do that again. That was the result after they started disappearing their ATM’s for the generic ones with a fee, all of which I would have used instead.

You want to withdraw cash no questions asked, Post Office or Supermarkets but the PO will do up to the daily limit in my experience no questions asked.

Shine On, you Crazy Diamond was written about Syd B, whose solo album was called “The Madcap laughs”

“I’ve been mad for fcuking years
…
I’ve always been mad, I know I’ve been mad
Like the most of us have
Very hard to explain why you’re mad
Even if you’re not mad“

“Father Bob” McGuire will be granted a State Funeral.
Being a Catholic priest- and sacked a decade ago for impropriety- can we expect rainbow ribbons and screeching at the event?
Well no of course not, because such protests as the disgraceful show at Cl Pell’s are products of the Hive Mind, and the Lizard People say no, that bloke was one of our’s.

grantchester meadows beautiful song by early Floyd.

Cassie of Sydney:

I don’t know about others but I’m getting absolutely sick and tired of this blackwashing.

The Blackwashing is tolerable. What is not is the people who condone it because of ideology.
It is in fact, cultural treason – representing a lie as reality because of fashion. There’s little wrong with portraying history in an alternate sense for entertainment – the wrongness lies in portraying it as fact.
History must be accurate. To accept lies as truth is akin to building your own culture on sand.

‘The Turning Away’ played at 100 decibel’s gives me a out of body experience. My children cant believe I was young once.

Dot, Margrethe I of Denmark looks nothing like Chinese

Don’t whiteface our Celestial Kween!

Athenians were black Kingz, but technically they practiced demarchy interspersed with military dictatorships and dole bludgers wreaking havoc as invidious, vindictive, part time lay jurors .

A Roy Morgan poll conducted between Friday April 14 and Tuesday April 18 found 46 per cent of Australians were in favour of the voice, down seven percentage points from the pollster’s December results.

Fifteen per cent of respondents were undecided, down two percentage points.

Oz. Albo needs to get out for a chorus or three of “You’re the Voice”…

Arthur Ashe died of AIDS. The poor man had a transfusion after heart surgery. This was prior to screening, when gay men were using the blood bank for detection of STDs.

Like Paul Michael Glasser’s wife, and haemophiliacs like Bryce Courtney’s son and many…many others.

Love is love.

Roger Waters apart from creating great music was brought up in a communist household. One of the problems in the group cited he was a money grabbing bastard, like most communists if they get the chance. The talent in that group is amazing. Look at all those pommy groups of the time. Some of the finest anywhere. They are all my favorite no matter who I am listening to. No, not true, Townshend is my favourite followed by Steve Winwood.

Drinking Chivas Regal while playing backgammon with Pink Floyd playing was a regular past time for me at seventeen.

Now THAT’s quality.

Ed Casesays:
April 20, 2023 at 5:34 pm
Son. When you apply your brain more constructively I’ll stop applying that term.

Okay.
Here’s how I see things.

Don’t forget your white cane and guide dog, Grandpa ED Simpson. You will need them to “see things”.

Face the facts. The white race dragged humanity out of the gutter, and now they are sending it back.

We’ve survived long enough as heroes to become the villains.

Damn.

Cassie of Sydneysays:
April 20, 2023 at 8:26 pm
“Arthur Ashe died of AIDS. The poor man had a transfusion after heart surgery. This was prior to screening, when gay men were using the blood bank for detection of STDs.

Like Paul Michael Glasser’s wife, and haemophiliacs like Bryce Courtney’s son and many…many others.

So did my mother. She had unscreened blood. I nursed her at home for 6 years up bush when I was a teenager until my early 20’s, whilst driving to Melb and back to go to uni. They didn’t know what was wrong and when they did, never said so.