Open Thread – Tues 2 May 2023


The Good Shepherd, Bartolomé Esteban Murillo, 1660

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Crossie
Crossie
May 2, 2023 1:35 pm

“More than 40 percent of the prison population in Western Australia is First Nations. When you have 40 percent of a prison population that is one cultural group its an abomination,” he said.

It is an abomination that the wrong questions are being asked. Why is nobody asking why a certain culture is so lawless?

duncanm
duncanm
May 2, 2023 1:36 pm

thefrollickingmolesays:
May 2, 2023 at 9:52 am
Australias most naïve police wench finds out life is different without the uniform on.

the ABC seems flummoxed. Can’t blame the black youth for a gay crime on a pair of lesbians – the grievance poker is not computable.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
May 2, 2023 1:39 pm

That poor girl has such overfilled lips and hideous tatts, perhaps she’ll now get the message.

The lips can subside if she leaves them alone, but the tatts are harder and more expensive to remove.
Perhaps she could meet men first wearing some long sleeves until they get to know her better and can ignore the skin features (some guys may even like them!). That’s if getting to know her would be any improvement. Maybe she’ll also now drop the ‘boundaries’ and ‘needs’ language and just act like a normal nice person with a sense of decency about herself and a genuine interest in others.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
May 2, 2023 1:39 pm
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
May 2, 2023 1:40 pm

Why is nobody asking why a certain culture is so lawless?

There’s a certain element that sees themselves as proud warriors, waging war against the white invaders.

Winston Smith
May 2, 2023 1:41 pm

Entropy:

When the iPad arrived, all this went out the window. The whole thing could be done in exactly the same way in a device whose battery lasted all day, it weighed next to nothing in comparison, and the software went through Apple rather than the health company. So instead of $1200 the software was $120. And the whole setup was less than $1000. Even better, for kids that would outright refuse the clunky old tablet, they could use an iPod touch or an iPhone.

Funny you should mention that, Entropy.
But take into account that relatives are often calculating bastards. They bring up the old line of “The more you spend proves how much you care.” and it will be used in future arguments about estate planning and execution. You’ll also notice who they are by the keeping of receipts of this ‘proof of care’ to be brought up during proceedings.
Yes – I have a very jaundiced view of some people.

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
May 2, 2023 1:43 pm

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Bearesays:
May 2, 2023 at 1:24 pm
‘Net Zero is taking the world’s population backwards’ | Neil Oliver issues grave Ulez warning

I watched this and it’s great – as far as it goes. What needs to be said more loudly is that the CO2 hypothesis is not being demonstrated by any real evidence and that what climate change is occurring is part of a natural cycle (Neil mentions this briefly but not in context of the essentially negligible anthropogenic so-called ‘contribution’). It is their fake ‘science’ that needs attacking, as much as the results of their tinkering in its name.

There is a new book out by Peter Frankopan. He is a Professor of Global History at Oxford University in England. The book is called “The Earth Transformed: An Untold History”. The punchline is – ‘By far the biggest risk to global climate change comes from volcanoes’.

These UN plonkers and Climate Alarmists have only looked at the World over the last 200 years at best. This Professor has looked at everything as best he can over the last 4 billion years. Top that if you can you Charlatans.

CO2 is a harmless gas that assists live on Earth. Ask the Trees and plants what they think.

Vicki
Vicki
May 2, 2023 1:44 pm

Major topics of societal change are not up for discussion with marketers. In a heated debate a few years ago regarding same sex marriage, husband & I were told to “f…..off” & leave her house,

…and the upshot?

What do you think? We “f…’d off” for quite some time.

Such topics are now mostly off limits. However, I do find it hard and drift into dangerous waters. A couple of weeks ago the “Voice” came up in discussion, and although daughter, son-in-law, and grandson were of similar thinking, “woke” 17 year old granddaughter launched into a passionate burble about our destruction of Aboriginal culture and history.

“What? I said, and I launched reciprocally into a passionate refutal of that with plenty of examples of our concessions to cultural practice , special protection of sites, support of remote communities etc etc. And what dis the do? She burst into tears and fled to her room.

And there was I – that vexatious creature from a bygone age, upsetting the household again!

Actually, this time I was largely supported by the rest of the household. Especially 20 year old grandson, who has the best “bullshit” detector in the family.

Crossie
Crossie
May 2, 2023 1:45 pm

calli says:
May 2, 2023 at 12:54 pm
window makers…whoops!
widow makers
Although they definitely have the potential to make windows in people, and extra ones in their houses.

I have a cactus that is now taller than the garage and leans over the garage roof. It looks like a tall prickly pear and has the same sort of flowers and fruits. I am nervous that parts will break off in a storm and smash the garage roof tiles creating an impromptu skylight. I will have to call tree loppers and get them to take it down.

Eyrie
Eyrie
May 2, 2023 1:48 pm

CO2 is a harmless gas that assists life on Earth

Make that “is essential for”.

Winston Smith
May 2, 2023 1:49 pm

Eyrie:

Or just leave a bottle of whisky and five $20 notes next to the car.
They’ll most likely take the money, the booze and run. Optionally just the money.

OK, I get that you’ve said this in jest, but it’s the best way to guarantee they’ll be back the next night.
So leave out a bottle of 100 Panadol tabs as well.
It won’t sort the problem out overnight, but it will sort it out.

Crossie
Crossie
May 2, 2023 1:50 pm

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha says:
May 2, 2023 at 1:40 pm
Why is nobody asking why a certain culture is so lawless?
There’s a certain element that sees themselves as proud warriors, waging war against the white invaders.

Yet they are shocked that people don’t like having a war waged against them.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
May 2, 2023 1:51 pm

“woke” 17 year old granddaughter launched into a passionate burble about our destruction of Aboriginal culture and history.

I”m always tempted to ask what’s worth preserving about Aboriginal culture?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
May 2, 2023 1:53 pm

His future is here.

Only after the uterus transplant.

This mom donated her uterus, so a woman she didn’t know could be a mother, too (1 May)

Cheryl Cichonski-Urban was a mother of two in Langhorne, Pennsylvania, who was inspired to apply by a news story about a woman who had donated her uterus in Texas.

The surgery to remove Cichonski-Urban’s uterus, called a modified radical hysterectomy, took 14 hours and involved a team of over 100.

The uterus was transferred to Jovanovich, a procedure which lasted about 10 hours.

They both woke up to learn the transplant had been successful.

The next step of her journey would involve implanting one of her embryos. After an unsuccessful first attempt, Jovanovich became pregnant in October 2020.

Throughout the pregnancy, Jovanovich and Cichonski-Urban contacted one another and stayed in touch before finally meeting at Jovanovich’s maternity photo shoot. … Two days later, Jovanovich gave birth to her son, Telden, in May 2021.

It was a very generous and dangerous gift to a lady who had a genetic condition which meant that she and her husband could’ve have kids. On the other hand you can just imagine how many trannies are going to be lining up for this transplant procedure. Brave New World’s bottle babies are one step closer.

Vicki
Vicki
May 2, 2023 1:54 pm

There’s a certain element that sees themselves as proud warriors, waging war against the white invaders.

I reckon that is a very small percentage. The ones who have the heaviest burden of grievance tend to be, in my experience, the ones who are often the most educated. The latter are often very compensated for their origin, although this does not seem to reduce the residual resentment towards the Anglo establishment which they have become part of.

I have seen no evidence to contradict the general belief that the violence predominantly is influenced by the consumption of too much alcohol. Mind you, the latter is undoubtedly exacerbated by the aimlessness of much of their existence. No different to an element in white communities.

However, in recent times the younger ones, in particular, have realised that they can get away with much more than in the past. This accounts for the “copy-cat” violence that is spreading rapidly throughout Aboriginal communities across Australia.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
May 2, 2023 1:56 pm

I mentioned Megyn Kellys “Make Women Female Again” cap the other day.

In her latest podcast she mentions the cap got a huge reaction and she opens with another good rant about pro women issues and plugs Posie Parker’s web site for the cap. Guests Matt Taibbi and Libs of Tick Tock lady.

Am I allowed to say she looked hot in the cap pic or is that just being misogynistic? Hot, hot, hot !

calli
calli
May 2, 2023 1:58 pm

Vicki, I keep fairly quiet around fragile family.

My own kids know what I think and there are various levels of agreement and disagreement. Most of it is informed by my faith and is pretty uncontroversial, but definitely countercultural. We’ve always had the courtesy to articulate why we believe something or other or not.

The wider family…not so much. Some treat going postal like a bloodsport. It can be pretty disgusting and disturbing and embarrassing . The Beloved refuses to set foot in one’s house after a bitter, name-calling barney over precisely nothing. The gentlest and kindest of men, he decided he didn’t need that sh*t and life is too short.

Well, the world is going to end next week, so their lives will be short too. Maybe that’s why they don’t worry so much about hideous fighting and the social fallout. 🙂

rosie
rosie
May 2, 2023 1:59 pm

woke” 17 year old granddaughter launched into a passionate burble about our destruction of Aboriginal culture and history.

Get her to read Tench and Edward Curr then Louis Nowra.
The 19th authors didn’t have an axe to grind, so assume pretty objective description of Aboriginal culture.
As best I can tell it was extremely strict and woe betide anyone who transgressed.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
May 2, 2023 2:02 pm

It may not be popular here but I won’t stay silent about refusal to vaccinate young children against measles, mumps, rubella and whooping cough. I think it is very misguided to go anti-vaxx on these.

rosie
rosie
May 2, 2023 2:05 pm

‘I have been made to feel so bad by guys for communicating my basic needs, putting personal boundaries in place. I’ve had them gaslight me for doing this. I’ve had them then ghost me for doing this,’ she continued

What on earth is she saying to them, setting out a bunch of rules that make it obvious they should run, run as fast as they can?

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
May 2, 2023 2:06 pm

As best I can tell it was extremely strict and woe betide anyone who transgressed.

“Endless taboos and savage, brutal punishments.”

rosie
rosie
May 2, 2023 2:07 pm

Flu is also a potentially dangerous illness for young children.
Kills more than mmr in Australia. (Five to ten per annum)

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
May 2, 2023 2:08 pm

Sancho Panzersays:
May 2, 2023 at 10:35 am
bear at 1032

not to mention the tendency of gum trees to spoil your picnic by dropping a 200 kg limb onto the pimms and cucumber sandwiches

If it fell on your bonce, it might knock some sense into you………………………lol. But then again I doubt it as you are ‘A Doubting Tom Arse’.

Vicki
Vicki
May 2, 2023 2:09 pm

I”m always tempted to ask what’s worth preserving about Aboriginal culture?

Oh Zulu, I understand what your question. So many Aussies think the same. I have a friend who contemptuously claims ,”They couldn’t even boil water!”

So, how can I, answer your question? What seems like a life time ago, I studied Aboriginal culture at Uni, & developed a fascination with these stone age people who adapted to the harsh land they inhabited. Fundamentally isolated from other peoples, they failed to develop the technology to utilise some of the many mineral resources of their land. But, like many other paleolithic people, they developed an elaborate spiritual system of rules (almost an eschatology ) to make sense of their existence and to maintain order in their groups.

So – in answer to your question – I’m not sure if this is “worth preserving” in the sense of usefulness to US. But, like the study of all human societies, many cultural observations have a value in understanding the overall relationship of our species with our environment. They tell us much about the human condition and how we have evolved in our relationship to where we find ourselves.

Anyway, I find it interesting and “special” & I wish I could convey that perception to others.

Roger
Roger
May 2, 2023 2:09 pm

A number of senior Australian cricketers will be given a special briefing about The Voice referendum before Cricket Australia takes a public position.

Why are national teams, and the like, permitted to take public positions on political questions?

I suppose the answer is they’re not really “national” teams in that they’re not government sponsored.

Big Sport is an extension of corporate Australia, both culturally and commercially.

The Australian cricket team is managed by Cricket Australia, a member owned company whose chair is Mike Baird. They have commercial partnerships with at least a dozen corporations and a policy concerning Diversity and Inclusion. So of course they’re going to take a position.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
May 2, 2023 2:09 pm

As best I can tell it was extremely strict and woe betide anyone who transgressed.

It was also a terribly hungry existence where you had to eat anything you could including occasional human flesh. New babies were often killed at birth because an older child was still suckling. Old people were also left to die. In spite of all that Bruce Pascoe improperly claims about food sources, life was poor, nasty, brutal and short. There was constant fighting over women and resources and tribal insults led to vendettas. Women were blamed and brutalised with clubs to the head as the root cause of these problems, meantime, they collected the daily food that was relied upon for subsistence while the men did more erratically productive hunting.

A noble paradise it was not.

calli
calli
May 2, 2023 2:10 pm

No resistance from me either on childhood disease and immunisation.

Furious about the grandchildren being Covidvaxxed though, some multiple times. One child, who ought to know better, tried to convince me it was to bolster “herd immunity”. I know where she got that sh*t from, and they did know better, the buggers.

Edumacated into imbecility. One even has a gong to prove it.

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
May 2, 2023 2:10 pm

Kills more than mmr in Australia. (Five to ten per annum)

And what is mmr?

Plasmamortar
Plasmamortar
May 2, 2023 2:10 pm

It may not be popular here but I won’t stay silent about refusal to vaccinate young children against measles, mumps, rubella and whooping cough. I think it is very misguided to go anti-vaxx on these.

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Yes, we should abandon over 100,000 years of natural selection after it got us this far….

Winston Smith
May 2, 2023 2:11 pm

Crossie:

How about just promise not to persecute them when they come back from deployment after having done what you asked of them.

I’d think about it after a Stalinesque “Purge of the Marshalls.”

rosie
rosie
May 2, 2023 2:11 pm

Aboriginal women past the age of child bearing waxing lyrical about culture are probably deliberately having a lend.
They must know.

calli
calli
May 2, 2023 2:12 pm

“Endless taboos and savage, brutal punishments.”

Stoneage “Woke”?

Lysander
Lysander
May 2, 2023 2:13 pm

Flu is also a potentially dangerous illness for young children.

In Australia, you’re more likely to die from abortion than all major diseases combined…

Plasmamortar
Plasmamortar
May 2, 2023 2:13 pm

I”m always tempted to ask what’s worth preserving about Aboriginal culture?

We should have preserved it the way the Spanish preserved Aztec culture

calli
calli
May 2, 2023 2:14 pm

I would prefer my children and grandchildren not to be “naturally selected” for polio or diphtheria.

Boambee John
Boambee John
May 2, 2023 2:17 pm

“So there has to be funding that is put into the critical areas of concern, particularly around The Closing The Gap strategy. We know that three aren’t being met, in fact, they’re widening, and that is incarceration, suicide and child removal,” Ms Krakouer, the director of the National Suicide Prevention and Trauma Recovery Project said.

“I want to see legislative change, I want to see policy that protects the interests of all Australians, particularly First Nations people.”

We want to see cultural change in the indigenous community, which is the only way that incarceration and child removal, at the least, can be reduced. Don’t commit crimes, don’t get on the booze or drugs more than the rest of Australia does, cut out the booze during pregnancy to reduce FASD, stop child abuse (physical and sexual) by making it culturally unacceptable, send your kids to school, feed and clothe them properly.

Vicki
Vicki
May 2, 2023 2:25 pm

Get her to read Tench and Edward Curr then Louis Nowra.

Thanks Rosie. All great reads. At the moment she is doing her HSC so that will be for later – when it will be too late as she will almost certainly be in the Leftie hotbed of the NSW University of Technology doing a Communications degree!

In someways we only have ourselves to blame. When she was about 5 & her brother was 8, husband and I flew them to Darwin where we hired a Winnebago and toured Kakadu and Litchfield in the school holidays. I romantically said we were “showing them country”!!! Certainly, we toured all the marvellous rock shelter sites where we explained the stencils and paintings to them. We had hoped for them to encounter some Aboriginal kids but, except for the public swimming pool in Jabiru, we didn’t see many as they all seem to have been in Arnhem Land. Even so, we talked a lot about the Aboriginal people. The little one had a teacher who had previously been in the NT & he had taught his class a little song in Yolgnu which granddaughter knew by heart – and still does. Maybe all that sank in & has influenced her thinking.

Oh & yes – there were a number of Aboriginal park workers. One young woman put a giant python (named Matilda, I think) around the little one’s neck – before I could stop her. All good – as python had done it a thousand times I suspect – but the photo sure upset her mother when we got home! That, and the photo of grandson doing a jig in front of the “danger – Crocodiles” sign!

We are bad grandparents!

H B Bear
H B Bear
May 2, 2023 2:25 pm

Captain Woke teaching CA how to suck eggs. Expect this won’t end well. BAU at RA.

Dot
Dot
May 2, 2023 2:26 pm

Having built and run risk systems for several global banks, I can assure you that stress testing (and risk modelling as an essential practice) that does not include rates & curve risks is not worth anything.

Which has nothing to do with Dodd Frank.

Dot
Dot
May 2, 2023 2:29 pm

mole

Artificial wombs and artificial eggs, sperm and so on raise the question if parents are needed at all.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
May 2, 2023 2:33 pm

1 min ago – 2.30PM
RBA bows to inflation, lifts rates 0.25pc
Reserve Bank of Australia

RBA policy statement of May 2:

At its meeting today, the Board decided to increase the cash rate target by 25 basis points to 3.85 per cent. It also increased the rate paid on Exchange Settlement balances by 25 basis points to 3.75 per cent.

Inflation in Australia has passed its peak, but at 7 per cent is still too high and it will be some time yet before it is back in the target range. Given the importance of returning inflation to target within a reasonable timeframe, the Board judged that a further increase in interest rates was warranted today.

The Board held interest rates steady last month to provide additional time to assess the state of the economy and the outlook. While the recent data showed a welcome decline in inflation, the central forecast remains that it takes a couple of years before inflation returns to the top of the target range; inflation is expected to be 4½ per cent in 2023 and 3 per cent in mid-2025. Goods price inflation is clearly slowing due to a better balance of supply and demand following the resolution of the pandemic disruptions. But services price inflation is still very high and broadly based and the experience overseas points to upside risks. Unit labour costs are also rising briskly, with productivity growth remaining subdued.

The recent Australian data also confirmed that the labour market remains very tight, with the unemployment rate at a near 50-year low. Many firms continue to experience difficulty hiring workers, although there has been some easing in labour shortages and the number of vacancies has declined a little.

The Board’s priority remains to return inflation to target. High inflation makes life difficult for people and damages the functioning of the economy. And if high inflation were to become entrenched in people’s expectations, it would be very costly to reduce later, involving even higher interest rates and a larger rise in unemployment. Medium-term inflation expectations remain well anchored, and it is important that this remains the case. Today’s further adjustment in interest rates will help in this regard.

Wages growth has picked up in response to the tight labour market and high inflation. At the aggregate level, wages growth is still consistent with the inflation target, provided that productivity growth picks up. The Board remains alert to the risk that expectations of ongoing high inflation contribute to larger increases in both prices and wages, especially given the limited spare capacity in the economy and the historically low rate of unemployment. Accordingly, it will continue to pay close attention to both the evolution of labour costs and the price-setting behaviour of firms.

The Board is still seeking to keep the economy on an even keel as inflation returns to the 2–3 per cent target range, but the path to achieving a soft landing remains a narrow one. The central forecast is for the economy to continue growing, albeit at a below-trend pace; GDP is forecast to increase by 1¼ per cent this year and around 2 per cent over the year to mid-2025. Given the expected below-trend growth in the economy, the unemployment rate is forecast to increase gradually to be around 4½ per cent in mid-2025.

A significant source of uncertainty continues to be the outlook for household consumption. The combination of higher interest rates, cost-of-living pressures and the earlier decline in housing prices is leading to a substantial slowing in household spending. While some households have substantial savings buffers, others are experiencing a painful squeeze on their finances. There are also uncertainties regarding the global economy, which is expected to grow at a below-average rate over the next couple of years.

Some further tightening of monetary policy may be required to ensure that inflation returns to target in a reasonable timeframe, but that will depend upon how the economy and inflation evolve. The Board will continue to pay close attention to developments in the global economy, trends in household spending and the outlook for inflation and the labour market. The Board remains resolute in its determination to return inflation to target and will do what is necessary to achieve that.

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
May 2, 2023 2:33 pm

Having built and run risk systems for several global banks, I can assure you that stress testing (and risk modelling as an essential practice) that does not include rates & curve risks is not worth anything.

The Banking Systems are in Big Trouble. More so in the Euro Zone than the USA because of the madness of having negative interest rates and now with interest rates rising. I was gobsmacked that Credit Suisse would ever need rescuing. Who in Europe is next?

Boambee John
Boambee John
May 2, 2023 2:34 pm

Zulu Kilo Two Alphasays:
May 2, 2023 at 1:40 pm
Why is nobody asking why a certain culture is so lawless?

There’s a certain element that sees themselves as proud warriors, waging war against the white invaders.

But treat them like actual “proud warriors”, and shoot back, and listen to the screeches of outrage.

Plasmamortar
Plasmamortar
May 2, 2023 2:34 pm

Artificial wombs and artificial eggs, sperm and so on raise the question if parents are needed at all.

Don’t worry, they have plans for those of us in the the “surplus population” category….

Dot
Dot
May 2, 2023 2:34 pm

Nuclear milkman

“Higher interest rates cause inflation”.

We’re in the very best of hands.

H B Bear
H B Bear
May 2, 2023 2:36 pm

You can do an assessment on a tree and six months later it’s a hazard because some idiot has run a bobcat through half its root plate. You’ll notice most of the catastrophic failures occur very close to roads.

Calli, the acacia I referred to was planted in parkland approximately 20 years ago and undisturbed. See a few of them around too. A couple of inspectors in the part today, chipping away at a pruned branch on one of the Plane trees. Expect the councils are very litigation conscious.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
May 2, 2023 2:37 pm

Kim from Mongbourne, sorry you were ghosted. The poor eyesighted dating pool could see you were fake after the first date. With my failing eyesight I can see that without going on a date. If you believe the BS about yourself it’s no wonder nobody is interested.

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
May 2, 2023 2:38 pm

RBA policy statement of May 2:

At its meeting today, the Board decided to increase the cash rate target by 25 basis points to 3.85 per cent. It also increased the rate paid on Exchange Settlement balances by 25 basis points to 3.75 per cent.

Inflation in Australia has passed its peak, but at 7 per cent is still too high and it will be some time yet before it is back in the target range. Given the importance of returning inflation to target within a reasonable timeframe, the Board judged that a further increase in interest rates was warranted today.

Who says that inflation in Australia has passed its peak with Energy prices continuing to go through the roof. All Government charges are well up over 10% pa. Hey, Guv’ment, lower your charges FFS and show some bottle.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
May 2, 2023 2:39 pm

Bon you are AWFL but I like you.

Vicki
Vicki
May 2, 2023 2:45 pm

It was also a terribly hungry existence where you had to eat anything you could including occasional human flesh. New babies were often killed at birth because an older child was still suckling. Old people were also left to die. In spite of all that Bruce Pascoe improperly claims about food sources, life was poor, nasty, brutal and short. There was constant fighting over women and resources and tribal insults led to vendettas. Women were blamed and brutalised with clubs to the head as the root cause of these problems, meantime, they collected the daily food that was relied upon for subsistence while the men did more erratically productive hunting.

A noble paradise it was not.

Lizzie – I concur with all of that. Every word is true.

It is very hard, even today, to eradicate. I had an Aboriginal friend years ago when I collected Aboriginal art. He was a Yankunytjatjara man from the Central Desert whose painting brought him to live in Sydney and work for an art dealer. I found him to be most courteous when I knew him, a gentleman who behaved perfectly in our house and other venues. However, he got into a fight in a pub with a man who abused him racially, and who is subsequently bashed. I and many others (including a foreign ambassador) , gave character testimony at his subsequent trial for assault. We were all astonished to hear, when his past record was produced, to hear that he had done “time” for killing a man in his youth! Anyway, he did time in Maitland (?) gaol & was prised by the “governor” for helping young Aboriginal men to learn to paint during their incarceration. We lost track of him for a time, then learned that he had married a white woman, whom he bashed regularly, or so it was said! He died some years ago in SA, having had both legs removed as a result of gangrene (?) from years of constant smoking.

Such is the typical story of young Aboriginal men between two cultures. He was born beneath a tree in the desert. I will always remember him and his gentleness towards me and gratitude for my support.

Don’t any of you call me an idealistic. I am not. I see it as it is. It just breaks my heart.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
May 2, 2023 2:46 pm

Australia only has an inflation problem coz of every form of government charging more for less.
My wife left the APS to do a job the same as she used to for a government dept. who has 3 people that should be able to do the job still being paid not to. She gets paid more than she used to without the BS.

H B Bear
H B Bear
May 2, 2023 2:47 pm

… when it will be too late as she will almost certainly be in the Leftie hotbed of the NSW University of Technology doing a Communications degree!

Oh dear!

H B Bear
H B Bear
May 2, 2023 2:48 pm

Couldn’t she do something respectable? The world needs strippers too.

Vicki
Vicki
May 2, 2023 2:49 pm

And I intend to vote NO! for the Voice. What clear thinking person could vote Yes???

dopey
dopey
May 2, 2023 2:51 pm

Pat Cummins…so what’s this Voice thing Mike?
Mike Baird…it’s the same as cricket Pat, sledging and intimidation, except it’s in parliament.
Pat Cummins…sign us up Mike.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
May 2, 2023 2:52 pm

When two cultures meet, the sensible people from each look at the other with curiosity, and investigate to see if the other has any good ideas worth copying. And the conservatives in each culture hide away in fear of change. And a few loons in each assume the other is to be embraced because it’s different.
A few believe they own their culture and should keep it from adoption by foreigners, but this is rare; most are happy to share their ideas and assumptions because it validates them.

It’s a fact that some cultures are superior to others in that their technology is more advanced. They have found out more about how the universe works, and how to make it do what we want. Western Civilisation was millennia ahead of the Aboriginal culture. Undisputable fact. So they had much more to learn from us than we did from them. And we offered it freely, with no strings. And the sensible ones took it and are now us. Everyone gained, nobody lost.

But there are monsters who wanted to keep aborigines backward, to ‘preserve their culture’. As if you can keep something as organic as a rose bush fresh by putting it in a ‘fridge. They are monstrous in intent and in effect, and they have damaged fellow human beings horribly, out of a vile mixture of stupidity and callousness.

And the evil shits feel themselves to be morally superior, when they are in fact moral imbeciles.

Latest iteration, the voice.

Winston Smith
May 2, 2023 2:53 pm

Lizzie:
Dr. Suneel Dhand – His non moving, non blinking eyes give me the creeps.

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
May 2, 2023 2:59 pm

There’s a certain element that sees themselves as proud warriors, waging war against the white invaders.

As has already been posted here. Apparently, the High Court of Australia (a Sovereign Nation) has already declared that the pink skinned sort of white peoples that came here on those Big Ships were Settlers and NOT Invaders.

areff
areff
May 2, 2023 2:59 pm

One of the interesting things about the Fox news site is that the journalists’ email addresses tail every story. Have dropped a couple of them a quick line about the cloth-eared Lachlan firing Tucker and how the silver-spooned scion is proving the old wisdom of clogs to clogs in three generations.

Don’t expect a reply but assume the corporate email filter is picking up every ‘Tucker’ reference.

Really, really want to see News Corp go down, and keep going down.

Winston Smith
May 2, 2023 3:00 pm

Lizzie:

There was some talk of making it an mRNA type, and if so then I will no longer be taking it.

There’s no guarantee that they haven’t incorporated the mRNA spike into it, and would you trust them if they did say so?

Plasmamortar
Plasmamortar
May 2, 2023 3:02 pm

Making a prediction here.

If the RBA continues its rate hikes and breaks the market.
The combination of a broken investment market plus high immigration plus high inflation will lead to sky-rocketing rent prices.

This will then make it politically acceptable for the government to ‘fix’ the issue by implementing rent controls.

Any takers? Rent controls by 2025?

Lysander
Lysander
May 2, 2023 3:02 pm

Rotten
I asked exactly the same question as you… who says the rates have peaked? Power prices are going to continue to surge due to renewballs, oil looks like it’ll keep growing, therefore transportation will continue growing and therefore goods will…

… and who is to say that foreign activities might also help it along its way too?

Our family can absorb this, I pity the many that can’t.

Foxbody
Foxbody
May 2, 2023 3:03 pm

I am a bit puzzled by your excitable Brother, Cassie ( 8.41 this am)
I understand the Holy Koran advises only that both sexes should dress modestly – and women should wear a head covering in a mosque.
The hijab and variations is a tribal custom, far from universal, although a little more common now as virtue signalling – and mostly not worn by young girls.

Lysander
Lysander
May 2, 2023 3:05 pm

As has already been posted here. Apparently, the High Court of Australia (a Sovereign Nation) has already declared that the pink skinned sort of white peoples that came here on those Big Ships were Settlers and NOT Invaders.

Hmm some time ago I found an article on Always Bashing Christians that said it got legal advice that proves neither made any difference (for the purposes of being forced to pay reparations). I would have asked them: Then why have none been paid?

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
May 2, 2023 3:07 pm

Bank Failures – A Push for CBDC?

“Monday saw the largest banking failure in the US since 2008 after First Republic went under, marking the third death of a US bank this year. Regulators took possession of the bank this Monday and JPMorgan Chase will acquire the majority of the bank’s assets and remaining deposits worth around $92 billion. First Republic Bank’s stock fell nearly 50% after reporting a significant drop in deposits in the first quarter of 2023. First Republic’s stock value tanked 97% on Friday due to fears of a bank run or failure, and the executives were silent on the health of the bank because they knew they were doomed. JPMorgan Chase coming to save the day is not a good sign.

All of these small and mid-sized banks are struggling with liquidity. The larger banks are gaining more power and influence. JPMorgan Chase’s CEO is nothing like the man who founded his company and actually saved the US from a banking disaster. CEO Jamie Dimon is a World Economic Forum member who fully supports the Great Reset. He wants the US to invoke eminent domain in order for the government to seize your private property.

These are his words, not mine. Dimon noted in his letter to shareholders that “governments, businesses and non-governmental organizations” may need to invoke “eminent domain” in order to get “adequate investments fast enough for grid, solar, wind and pipeline initiatives.” He is adhering to Agenda 2030 and believes that our freedoms need to be removed under the excuse of climate change. “The need to provide energy affordably and reliably for today, as well as make the necessary investments to decarbonize for tomorrow, underscores the inextricable links between economic growth, energy security and climate change. We need to do more, and we need to do so immediately,” Dimon added in his letter.

I will not be surprised if Jay Powell mentions CBDC this Wednesday just to get the public accustomed to the idea. All of these issues can be used as an excuse to implement CBDC as the “safe” alternative to traditional banking. It would be easier to implement if there were only a handful of banks working with the government. The US has never canceled its currency but every empire, nation, and city-state falls in the same manner. The plans for the Great Reset are out in the open and the WEF has infiltrated nearly every government cabinet in the world and bought out the bankers. The day will come when the government gives us a deadline to turn in our paper currency to be converted into CBDC, providing them with complete financial domination over the people.”

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/world-news/corruption/bank-failures-a-push-for-cbdc/?utm_source=Newsletter&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=RSS

Cassie of Sydney
May 2, 2023 3:07 pm

“The hijab and variations is a tribal custom, far from universal, although a little more common now as virtue signalling – and mostly not worn by young girls.”

In London you see many, many little girls wearing the hijab, some as young as 5 and 6.

Cassie of Sydney
May 2, 2023 3:11 pm

“Holy Koran”

Oh and interesting choice of word..”holy”. The Koran is only “holy” to Muslims. It is not “holy” to me or others here. We have our own holy books.

Dot
Dot
May 2, 2023 3:14 pm

Strange how we just can’t say ‘No’ to this rubbish.

I am doubtful a human womb can truly be replicated rather than simulated. I wouldn’t trust this technology for another couple of decades. Plus if regular joes could afford it, the technology would be widespread.

This isn’t stuff I want. People just need to be aware it exists. The only possible upside is that it can skewer feminism. So I am surprised they have not received more criticism.

Winston Smith
May 2, 2023 3:18 pm

Old Ozzie:

– Tattoos on a woman? Get your running shoes on guys and just don’t stop until you’re clear.

I go by the advice given to me when I was 18 – tattoos are a sign of either poor impulse control, or someone who is a slave to fashion.

Foxbody
Foxbody
May 2, 2023 3:21 pm

I am sure that is the case, Cassie at 3.07.
I see it as virtue signalling, possibly reinforced by the special treatment available to the “ out and proud” in the UK?
Headscarfs and more on young girls is very rare among people I know.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
May 2, 2023 3:26 pm

thefrollickingmole says: May 2, 2023 at 1:18 pm

How is this still happening at my age??

That does not seem to be a quote of anybody.
What on earth are you talking about?

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
May 2, 2023 3:29 pm

When two cultures meet, the sensible people from each look at the other with curiosity, and investigate to see if the other has any good ideas worth copying.
And in pre-European Australia, man had nothing but superstition, three hundred isolated languages, and the technology of rocks and sticks.

flyingduk
flyingduk
May 2, 2023 3:39 pm

It may not be popular here but I won’t stay silent about refusal to vaccinate young children against measles, mumps, rubella and whooping cough. I think it is very misguided to go anti-vaxx on these.

One key insight that I have gleaned over the last several years is how strongly big pharma has covered up the side effects of vaccines, including all the childhood vaxxes, to the point where the medical profession and the general public totally believed the ‘safe and effective’ narrative for all the childhood vaxxes.

Now, however, now we have seen how fraudulent the ‘science’ was regarding covid vaxxes, what if the science regarding the childhood vaxxes is similarly corrupt?

What I have read in the last 3 years suggests it is. Even if we accept that the childhood vaxxes do prevent their target illnesses, what if they cause other problems, like the explosion in autoimune and inflammatory diseases of children (asthma, diabetes, ENT issues, food alergy, autism etc) which have occurred in parallel with the expanded childhood vax schedule?

What if we are swapping one child saved from measles for 50 disabled by autism, 10 from asthma and 20 with diabetes?

Winston Smith
May 2, 2023 3:47 pm

Boambee John:

We want to see cultural change in the indigenous community, which is the only way that incarceration and child removal, at the least, can be reduced. Don’t commit crimes, don’t get on the booze or drugs more than the rest of Australia does, cut out the booze during pregnancy to reduce FASD, stop child abuse (physical and sexual) by making it culturally unacceptable, send your kids to school, feed and clothe them properly.

It doesn’t seem like too much to ask, does it?
And yet, it obviously is.

johanna
johanna
May 2, 2023 3:49 pm

Inflation is 7 or 8%? Only in the tortured methodology of government agencies.

Meanwhile, in the real world:

– anyone who does the grocery shopping knows that many core items have risen more like 20%+;

– rents have risen astronomically, between 20 and 40%;

– while the percentage rise on mortgages is not much, in dollar terms it is a lot of money for people who have bought in the last 5-10 years;

– energy prices have risen by between 20 and 40%;

– council rates (depending on where you live) are about to rise by up to 50%;

– government charges are rising rapidly;

– petrol, alcohol and cigs, those hardy perennials of sustaining the Budgets of State and Federal wastrels, inch inexorably up;

– agricultural inputs like fertiliser and stock feeds are up by well more than 7-8%.

Just as one has to be an interlecshural to understand the weird statements that come out of academe, one must be a believer in unicorns to believe official figures about inflation.

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
May 2, 2023 3:53 pm

Entropy says:
May 2, 2023 at 8:48 am
If I was in charge, there would not be a corporate division. HRstaff would be embedded in the service/ product delivery areas

That reminds me of the theory I read many years ago, and possibly put into practice by the now-forgotten author, of sacking the entire HR staff and replacing them them with one “people person” per 100 employees, working with those employees, and responsible only for doing the pays.

Winston Smith
May 2, 2023 3:55 pm

Video Shows Fraudulent Mail-In Ballot Signatures Accepted by Maricopa County – Kari Lake Attorneys to EXPOSE Fraudulent 2022 Signatures in Trial Court

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/05/watch-video-shows-fraudulent-mail-in-ballot-signatures-accepted-by-maricopa-county-kari-lake-attorneys-to-expose-fraudulent-2022-signatures-in-trial-court/

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
May 2, 2023 3:55 pm

I am coming around to Flying Duk’s way of thinking on vaccines and now question them all. My two kids in later life suddenly came up with being lactose intolerant and having to be gluten free. Never an issue when growing up.

However as we have seen the Government has no concern about whether people actually want to take so many vaccines and will keep pushing them.

sfw
sfw
May 2, 2023 3:55 pm

Here’s a link to Islamic rulings on having sex with animals and human corpses. Lovely reading.

https://www.islamweb.net/en/fatwa/278869/ruling-on-bestiality-and-sex-with-a-corpse-in-islam

Eyrie
Eyrie
May 2, 2023 3:59 pm

I would prefer my children and grandchildren not to be “naturally selected” for polio or diphtheria.

I think he meant naturally selected for resistance.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
May 2, 2023 4:04 pm

Here’s a link to Islamic rulings on having sex with animals and human corpses. Lovely reading.

It all sounds reasonable to me. The imams don’t like sodomy or bestiality or sex with the dead. I don’t either.

We’ve got that much in common.

Vicki
Vicki
May 2, 2023 4:12 pm

One key insight that I have gleaned over the last several years is how strongly big pharma has covered up the side effects of vaccines, including all the childhood vaxxes, to the point where the medical profession and the general public totally believed the ‘safe and effective’ narrative for all the childhood vaxxes.

You are not alone, duk. An immunologist friend thinks the same. Robert Kennedy Jnr, who is standing for the Democrat nomination, has thought this for many years, as I understand.

It is a life changing recognition for many medicos who are brave and thoughtful enough to consider it.

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
May 2, 2023 4:14 pm

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare says:
May 2, 2023 at 2:02 pm
It may not be popular here but I won’t stay silent about refusal to vaccinate young children against measles, mumps, rubella and whooping cough. I think it is very misguided to go anti-vaxx on these.

I may be reading the room very well, but I think most posters here have a very similar opinion to you on this matter.
My understanding of the general Catattiude is that the old fashioned vaccines which were developed over many years of research and testing are beneficial, with small chances of negative side effects. Vaccines were thoroughly vetted so that they produced immunity to things like measles, mumps, rubella and whooping cough.
After the 2001 change to the definition of vaccines, rushed-through Covid medications were allowed to be called vaccines because all they had to do was stimulate the body’s immune response against diseases.
Anti-vaxx no longer means loony hippies railing against da man.

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
May 2, 2023 4:16 pm

I may NOT be reading the room very well.
Sheesh.
And to think I spent all those years cleaning the corridors outside English teachers’ classrooms. You’d have thunk I’d have picked up some learnin.

johanna
johanna
May 2, 2023 4:20 pm

The Victorian Liberals demonstrate yet again why Dan got re-elected:

Victorian Liberal MPs will be free to cast a conscience vote in the Voice to Parliament referendum, putting the state party at odds with its federal counterpart.

Opposition Leader John Pesutto confirmed this morning that the Liberal party room had voted in favour of a “non-binding position” for MPs ahead of the referendum.

Prior to the vote, and after shadow cabinet had endorsed the position, Mr Pesutto said the state party would follow an established tradition of Liberal MPs being allowed conscience votes.

“This is a very important issue for our nation, and I certainly believe as leader of the opposition here in Victoria that it’s important for the members of the opposition to have a non-binding position so they are free to approach that issue and determine it for themselves,” Mr Pesutto said.

“There’s a long way to go in this debate and I’m sure all of us will continue to have important discussions with our friends and colleagues and neighbours across the community to talk about such an important issue.

“I think this is a common-sense approach, it’s fair, it recognises that people have different viewpoints on this, and all I can say is that, the parties we represent here today, we value the freedom of each member to determine for themselves which way they’ll approach a national issue.”

He’s not just wet, he’s waterlogged.

In what universe does anyone imagine that voters will flock to this drip?

rosie
rosie
May 2, 2023 4:20 pm

One key insight that I have gleaned over the last several years is how

I think you mean one narrative I’m now going to brandish.
Infant mortality rates in Australia from those childhood diseases pre vaccine availability were appalling.
Of course with modern medicine survival rates would be better (assuming they were diagnosed promptly and medical services weren’t overwhelmed) but your aluminum in Vaccines causes autism (and now, conveniently transgender without explaining the bizarre differences in timing or gender ) with zippo evidence other than an assertion from authority sounds like bunkum to me.
There are dozens of other rational explanations for the increases in certain diseases, lifestyles, having airtight housing, diet etc.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
May 2, 2023 4:27 pm

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare says:
May 2, 2023 at 2:02 pm
It may not be popular here but I won’t stay silent about refusal to vaccinate young children against measles, mumps, rubella and whooping cough. I think it is very misguided to go anti-vaxx on these.

I’m with Duk on this. I’ve gone from accepting the consensus to having doubts. Maybe the story we bought into is true, and then again, cui bono and could they have lied to us for fun and profit?

We can now see clearly the corruption of a ruling class which includes the owners of YouTube, as the cancellation of John Campbell and Bridgen MP shows very plainly. How long has it been going on and simply remained unrecognised? My trust has always been limited, now it’s completely evaporated.

Cassie of Sydney
May 2, 2023 4:29 pm

“It may not be popular here but I won’t stay silent about refusal to vaccinate young children against measles, mumps, rubella and whooping cough. I think it is very misguided to go anti-vaxx on these.”

Correct Lizzie.

“Infant mortality rates in Australia from those childhood diseases pre vaccine availability were appalling.”

Correct Rosie.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
May 2, 2023 4:38 pm

Thanks, Rosie. Looks as though the current flu vaxxes haven’t ‘advanced’ to genetic types of platforms and I would be happy to have one of the current type. Re giving them to infants, I take the point that infants are at risk from flu, and would advise concerned parents to discuss the vaxx with their doctors, especially if the child has allergies and auto-immune issues.
If you look at what are promised in the future though then the mooted level of safety with the ‘genetic’ platform flu vaccines is to date looking unacceptable for anyone, adult or child.
Safety concerns nominated there do seem to be based broadly on the Covid mRNA and DNA data, which is not reassuring, as no large scale testing is yet being done.

Dot
Dot
May 2, 2023 4:38 pm

LOL

Ryan Webb

Dot
Dot
May 2, 2023 4:41 pm

Lizzie

“Isn’t this alarming in light of mRNA vaccines?”

https://www.drugtargetreview.com/news/92931/human-cells-can-write-rna-sequences-into-dna-study-shows/

Human cells can write RNA sequences into DNA, study shows

For the first time, scientists have found evidence that polymerase theta can write RNA segments back into DNA.

By Victoria Rees (Drug Target Review)

14 June 2021

Scientists at Thomas Jefferson University, US, have provided the first evidence that RNA segments can be written back into DNA. According to the researchers, these findings potentially challenge a central dogma in biology and could have wide implications.

Cells contain polymerases that duplicate DNA into another set that goes into a newly formed cell. These also build RNA messages so they can be read more efficiently into proteins. Polymerases were thought to only work in one direction – DNA into DNA or RNA. This prevents RNA messages from being rewritten back into the master recipe book of genomic DNA. However, the study sheds new light on this process.

“This work opens the door to many other studies that will help us understand the significance of having a mechanism for converting RNA messages into DNA in our own cells,” said Dr Richard Pomerantz, one of the lead researchers. “The reality that a human polymerase can do this with high efficiency, raises many questions.”

Link to research

https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/sciadv.abf1771

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
May 2, 2023 4:43 pm

“Infant mortality rates in Australia from those childhood diseases pre vaccine availability were appalling.”

Correct Rosie.

Yes, but at what cost have we saved lives? I’m not denying the benefits, but I’d like an honest assessment of the costs. I have always assumed they were essentially negligible, the odd, rare, adverse reaction. I’m now coming to doubt that. Basically, I doubt the Intelligence and probity of the establishment, in particular the medical establishment.

Makka
Makka
May 2, 2023 4:56 pm

There was a great Sci-Fi series screened a few years back called The Expanse. It was a story about the far future, how mankind outgrew Earth and scattered amongst planets in the Asteroid Belt (Belters) and colonized more far flung galaxies. Good drama and storyline.

Earth had become a dog eat dog shithole as basically far too many people for jobs, technology was so advanced it was only a very highly connected elite that landed a paying job and much of that was Govt affiliated. Technology out grew the need for human contribution.

It all came back to me when I saw this headline at ZH. They could be understating it;

AI Will Lead To 300 Million Layoffs In The US And Europe

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
May 2, 2023 4:57 pm

LOL

Ryan Webb

Which one? There’s lots.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
May 2, 2023 4:57 pm

Dame Edna Everage’s Visit to Shakespeare’s Birthplace

Hilarious. A forthright Aussie Edna growing confidently into stardom with cultural bloopers.
I just love the half-timbered car.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
May 2, 2023 4:59 pm

My daughter has a lot of tatts. It tells the story of her life. I don’t like her being tattoed but watching your brother die when you are nearly 3 has an effect. None of them are fashionable.

H B Bear
H B Bear
May 2, 2023 5:02 pm

I’m now coming to doubt that. Basically, I doubt the Intelligence and probity of the establishment, in particular the medical establishment.

There’s no doubt “the science” has done itself no favours over the past couple of years. What has changed is that it is now done in public over the Internet instead of corridors outside conferences nobody even knew were on. Science is rarely based on consensus.

Black Ball
Black Ball
May 2, 2023 5:03 pm

James Morrow in the Daily Telegraph:

It’s no secret that Labor sees itself as the natural party of the young.

And ever since last year’s election, the polls have seemed to reward that assertion.

But from the moment he took the stage to declare victory at his local inner-west RSL, the notion of Anthony Albanese as some sort of Camperdown Kennedy passing the torch to a new generation has been an uneasy fit.

The idea that the hopes and dreams of a rising cohort of young Australians would find its hero in a middle aged career public servant from Marrickville with a tidy property portfolio was always fanciful.

And so it is proving.

Because while some Labor strategists and commentators are putting out the line that the under-35s are already so rusted on it is not too early to talk about Albo in John Howard terms, it is only a matter of time before those same voters ask what exactly they are getting in return for their loyalty.

The answer would seem to be a government even more reliant on focus groups than the one it replaced and whose model voter is a curtain-twitching, cashed-up Boomer one tennis game away from a knee replacement.

On Tuesday morning Australians woke to the news that the federal government was going to spend $234 million cracking down on, of all things, vapes.

Building on the reputation Australia had so carefully cultivated during the pandemic as a place where personal choices are respected and the government gets out of your way (if only), Health Minister Mark Butler announced a whole suite of measures to get us off the digital darts.

This “world first” initiative will include, naturally, plain packaging requirements, new rules and regulations, and what we can only assume will be a really scary ad campaign.

It is the sort of paternalism that Australia has gotten all too good at, but it will naturally be aimed at younger Australians who are big fans of the things.

If it was just vapes, you could see the government getting a pass.

But on issue after issue, younger voters would appear to be getting taken for granted by Labor.

Take Jobseeker, another big issue for young voters.

Just a week out from the Budget the government has dropped out that it is going to give the allowance a boost – but only for the over 55s.

Sorry kids, but the focus groups have spoken, and this sort of targeted approach means the government can say they are handing down a “female friendly” budget since the majority of older Jobseeker recipients are women.

Everyone else can wait for the government to “consider” the matter further.

For Labor this is fighting the last war when the party made great sport of kicking Scott Morrison for references to his wife and daughters.

Coming at the same time the PM is hanging out in Darling Point mansions celebrating the wedding of Kyle Sandilands to show how cool he is, it smacks of terrible hypocrisy.

At least some on the left are beginning to pick up on this.

Speaking on Sky News Tuesday, Labor-aligned RedBridge Group’s Simon Welsh said that the PM’s battler “origin story” was “beginning to work against him … he’s not doing anything to help people like him.”

“There is a real sort of problem arising from this,” he gently suggested.

And this is before we begin to talk about housing, which is pretty understandably the number one concern of young voters.

While Labor may have cynically figured that tilting the Australian dream away from the quarter acre block with its suspiciously reactionary white picket fences was a great idea because a society of permanent renters are less likely to vote conservative, they aren’t doing much to help renters either.

Indeed the government is doing the worst thing it could do in this regard by flooding the housing market with hundreds of thousands of migrants, almost all of whom will come in as renters, when there are not enough properties for those already here as it is.

Property market economists such as Warren Hogan have quite rightly noted that for the next few years at least rents are going to be driven up by this migration surge, and more and more Australians will be forced to move in with each other or back in with family.

Again, great for Boomers with property portfolios. Not so good for everyone else.

Taken together Albo’s youth pitch is even more cringe than Kevin Rudd hanging out in shopping malls taking selfies with teens and reminiscent of Steve Buscemi slinging a skateboard over his shoulder and declaring, “How do you do, fellow kids?”

At some point, younger voters will have to ask themselves whether they would rather a PM who talks a good game and hangs out with Kyle Sandilands or one who actually does something to help them.

johanna
johanna
May 2, 2023 5:05 pm

Re vaccines, I suspect that it is the inevitable march of incrementalism.

Beginning with the Sabin polio vaccine (and, before you start, I know that there were some problems in the early stages) it just crept on and on and on, until infants and small children became pincushions.

The only jabs I ever had were for smallpox, required for migrating to Australia, and Sabin, at school.

I had measles twice and chicken pox once as a child. While I keep hearing about how deadly these diseases can be, there was no evidence of it when I was growing up. There was not a single case of anyone getting seriously ill from either of them in my schools or my social circle.

No doubt there was/is the odd case, as there is with every infection, but it was nothing like polio and smallpox. Yet, the immunisation regime just grew and grew. The combination of bossy public health officials and Big Pharma dovetailed perfectly.

Rejecting all immunisation is stupid, if I am going to a part of Africa where Yellow Fever is endemic, obviously …

But, one of the good things that has come out of COVID is that people are casting a much more critical eye over the ever lengthening list of jabs that adults, but most importantly, babies and children’s parents, are being chivvied to accept.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
May 2, 2023 5:07 pm

I have always assumed they were essentially negligible, the odd, rare, adverse reaction.

From anything I’ve seen, that was largely true. The comparison with the death rate for the unvaccinated in the early days of a given vaxx’s introduction put fear of the vaxx out of contention anyway. Polio was the big killer and maimer back in my early days. Whooping cough, diphtheria, measles were all greatly fear as diseases when I was born. My Welsh nana, the village ‘wise woman’, recalled nursing through her own children and my sister with measles and me with whooping cough, but she recalled diphtheria was the most awful death to watch as a child struggled to breathe with an occluding windpipe. The Victorian fetish with what we now see as ghastly mementos of a dead child developed because infant mortality from disease was so high.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
May 2, 2023 5:08 pm

johanna says: May 2, 2023 at 3:49 pm

one must be a believer in unicorns to believe official figures about inflation.

Plasmamortar says: May 2, 2023 at 3:02 pm

The combination of a broken investment market plus high immigration plus high inflation will lead to sky-rocketing rent prices.

Dear me, Catallaxians. Every time you use Keynesian euphemisms to describe currency devaluation, a cute kitten dies.

GreyRanga says: May 2, 2023 at 2:46 pm

Australia only has an inflation problem coz of every form of government charging more for less.

I give this one a free pass for correctly describing the source of the devaluation.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
May 2, 2023 5:09 pm

AI Will Lead To 300 Million Layoffs In The US And Europe

The interesting thing is that while almost all government employees could be replaced by AI, tradies cannot be. Any arts graduate is vulnerable, no plumber is. AIs can get arts degrees easily; they are all about learning to say the ‘right’ things, something AIs can do very well. But there is no sign of an AI getting an apprenticeship.

That professor of English who was pontificating on climate change could be automated in a few days, her entire life work replicated in minutes.

Working on a blocked lavatory would be beyond her, and the AI, for ever.

Eyrie
Eyrie
May 2, 2023 5:09 pm

My understanding of the general Catattiude is that the old fashioned vaccines which were developed over many years of research and testing are beneficial, with small chances of negative side effects. Vaccines were thoroughly vetted so that they produced immunity to things like measles, mumps, rubella and whooping cough.
After the 2001 change to the definition of vaccines, rushed-through Covid medications were allowed to be called vaccines because all they had to do was stimulate the body’s immune response against diseases.
Anti-vaxx no longer means loony hippies railing against da man.

LOL! Yeah and cholesterol causes heart disease and Statins are great.
Do some more research and find out what the vaccines were tested against (Do the same for the cholesterol conjecture and Statins). The whole thing is pretty dodgy with essentially no consideration of long term effects, which in any case, will after a long time have all sorts of confounding effects mixed in.
We do seem to have a explosion of allergies and other auto-immune problems. It also occurs to me that vaccines produce an inflammatory response. What causes clogging of arteries? Inflammation. Hmmmm.
We are friends with a couple who had a pharmacy until a couple of years ago. Fortunately they got out just before the vaxx mandates. The lady pharmacist was very keen on annual flu shots and we used to get them. No more. We’ve all had our last flu shots.
Trust has been destroyed after the last couple of years. The view on government and its hangers on (medical “profession” included) is that they are all a bunch of lying, thieving, murdering scum.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
May 2, 2023 5:12 pm

Kaboom!

I wonder if scalar weaponry was used here to initiate the blast? Hmm?

That blue flash in the sky has me curious.

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Disaster Compilations:

MASSIVE Explosion in Pavlohrad, Ukraine – Apr. 30, 2023 | ????? ? ??????????

Eyrie
Eyrie
May 2, 2023 5:12 pm

With the latest interest rate rise, the cash rate is now only MINUS 3.15 % in real terms.

Winston Smith
May 2, 2023 5:15 pm

Doc Beaugan:

And the conservatives in each culture hide away in fear of change.

With that one piece of arrant nonsense, Doc, you have taken a giant leap into the air and trodden on your dick.
It’s obvious you have no idea of the definition of ‘conservative’ in the political sense.

Eyrie
Eyrie
May 2, 2023 5:16 pm

Steve, looks like a fuel air explosive to me. Smaller explosion at first to disperse the liquid and gasify it then set it off.

Dot
Dot
May 2, 2023 5:18 pm

You can’t unclog your arteries without vitamin K2.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
May 2, 2023 5:20 pm

I have always assumed they were essentially negligible, the odd, rare, adverse reaction.

From anything I’ve seen, that was largely true.

Yes, but my point was that you haven’t seen very much at all. You’ve never come close to seeing an honest cost-benefit analysis. You’ve bought the myth, and never looked at all the relevant data.

Alamak!
Alamak!
May 2, 2023 5:22 pm

Black Ball> Thanks for sharing. I guess younger gen’z are opening their eyes to what Labor does as opposed to what they would have us believe.

Elbow and his bench represent wealthy, career professionals in Govt service and large bureaucracies who have little exposure or understanding of free markets barring their property portfolios. Defined benefit pensions complete the picture of a group that are not affected by the policies they execute and deluded into thinking they are saving everyone, but its mainly people like themselves.

Diogenes
Diogenes
May 2, 2023 5:24 pm

Too many, too young

College student, who suffered brain hemorrhage during spring break trip, dies from brain tumor

‘MasterChef’ Judge Dies On Eve Of Season Premiere At Age 46

Every story I’ve seen on the latter doesn’t mention suicide, but has the Lifeline message which, in the great tradition of Pravda and reading between the lines of what is and isn’t said, gives the real cause of death.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
May 2, 2023 5:24 pm

Bourne, it may be that your two kids decided later in life that they wanted to get a bit fetishistic about their food choices. There is a lot of over diagnosis, particularly self-diagnosis, of ‘gluten’ resistance.
Perhaps also their later diet enhanced a predisposition to it.

Whatever – real gluten intolerance is a serious matter, I am not denying it exists.
But the worried-well do seem to latch on to it a lot.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
May 2, 2023 5:26 pm

With that one piece of arrant nonsense, Doc, you have taken a giant leap into the air and trodden on your dick.
It’s obvious you have no idea of the definition of ‘conservative’ in the political sense.

It’s a vivid picture you paint, but you’re a trifle partisan. What word other than conservative would you use to describe a stodgy old fart who hated having his preconceptions challenged?

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
May 2, 2023 5:26 pm

Colonel Crispin Berkasays:
May 2, 2023 at 3:26 pm

It was the lady with the sleeve tattoos & trout pout complaining about how every relationship she found on tinder went the same way.
And the problem must be everyone else, not her doing the same thing and expecting a different result.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
May 2, 2023 5:33 pm

You’ve never come close to seeing an honest cost-benefit analysis. You’ve bought the myth, and never looked at all the relevant data.

And you are assuming ‘the myth’. When I studied epidemiology we looked into the data that was available on adverse reactions and there was no reason to assume it was fabricated or tampered with in any way. There were adverse reactions recognised and collated and there was a standard of acceptability levels for such reactions – otherwise a vaxx was pulled fairly quickly. Until Covid, this was largely the case. We then looked at the death rates pre and post vaxx in a number of different countries, noting too that levels of available medical aid and also nutritional status were factors to consider in epidemic spread. In Pakistan today, polio deaths rise and fall according to how many of the vaccinating teams the mullahs have killed off in that area recently. It is the mullahs who are very keen to say that the vaxxes are a western devilish invention. And the poor take the consequences.

calli
calli
May 2, 2023 5:33 pm

I would rather have had an aunt, vaccinated against diphtheria, with a subsequent family of cousins and second cousins, and all the way down the line than just my father’s hazy memory of a little girl who died horribly.

But that’s just me.

And I’m old enough to remember kids in callipers from polio.

Black Ball
Black Ball
May 2, 2023 5:36 pm

FMD. Daily Telegraph:

Ana Parra was still a child when her father abandoned her and her mother to start a new family.

Ana said her mother always told her her father had another child with another woman, but she didn’t meet her half-brother Daniel until she was 20 years old.

Daniel said he was also aware of a potential half-sister, but said his father had “wanted to hide” that part of his life.

The pair met when Ana tracked Daniel down on Facebook.

What followed was a forbidden attraction.

“We didn’t want to realise it, we were angry with ourselves because it was hard to admit and break that taboo,” Ana said.

“We are siblings even though we didn’t feel that way.”

Ana said the pair were at a party together when the first sparks flew.

“We approached each other slowly and gave each other our first kiss,” she said.

“We went our separate ways (afterwards), but we were somewhat ashamed of what had just happened.”

Daniel said the kiss “broke all barriers”, and the siblings soon realised they could not carry on without seeing each other again.

“Imagine liking a girl and, for a moral reason, being forbidden to be with her. It’s really hard to deal with,” he said. (no shit Sherlock)

The taboo couple soon took a trip to London from their native Spain, and said it was the first time they could behave like a normal couple.

“We went out to dinner, we took walks – it was like an explosion of freedom,” Ana said.

They soon went public with their relationship, and later told their story on local TV stations in Barcelona.

“We didn’t feel like telling everyone our story one by one, so that’s why we decided to tell it this way,” Ana said.

The pair were quickly met with a deluge of criticism, including people who told them they would “burn in hell”.

That didn’t deter the couple, who are now asking their government for permission to get married after having two children together.

Incest is not a crime in Spain, but the Spanish Civil Code prohibits marriage between direct relatives.

“Societies must advance and not cling to traditionalism,” Ana said. “Homosexuals were also not allowed to marry once, and now they can.

“We love each other, and that is what should prevail. We aren’t harming anyone. That’s why we want people to know our story.”

The couple’s children, aged five and three, are at a higher risk of having a recessive disease due to their parents being genetically related, but Ana has described both kids as “perfectly healthy”.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
May 2, 2023 5:37 pm

Nobody’s favourite State (apart from Top Ender), Tasmania, will put the AFL’s 19th team into the comp after their proposal was endorsed by the AFL and other clubs. However, there may be some naming issues (the Hun):

Footy’s 19th team would have to broker a commercial arrangement with entertainment giant Warner Bros to use the Tasmanian Devils as its official name for a new AFL team.

Yes, well. They can’t use ‘Tasmanian Tigers’ either because of Richmond, aka Ninthmond, aka (at present) Sixteenthmond. Some suggestions:

Tassie Lumberjacks
Tassie Windfarmers
Tassie Ring Roaders
Tassie Highwaymen (because there’s only one highway)
Tassie OG Convicts

New AFL chief executive elect Andrew Dillon plans to allow the Tasmanian people to choose the name of the new team but the Tasmanian Devils would be a prohibitive favourite.

Oh. If the people are choosing, that’s easy then.

The Tassie Footy McFootyfaces.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
May 2, 2023 5:38 pm

DrBeauGansays:
May 2, 2023 at 5:26 pm

In the interests of peace and brotherly love Id suggest reactionary or revanchist?

Or you could both slap each other with gloves and do a Taboo scene!

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
May 2, 2023 5:39 pm

I did my MPH in a School of Public Health and Tropical Medicine (within the Faculty of Medicine at Sydney University). There was quite an international emphasis on the study of vaccines as about a third of our cohort were medicos on scholarships from the Third World going off to lead key public health programs in their home countries. They were in no doubt about the efficacy of and need for the basic childhood vaccinations.

Covid and the politicised responses have led to a distrust in public health measures and procedures that is particularly unfortunate, for the metaphor of throwing the baby out with the bathwater applies.

Dot
Dot
May 2, 2023 5:40 pm

Footy’s 19th team would have to broker a commercial arrangement with entertainment giant Warner Bros to use the Tasmanian Devils as its official name for a new AFL team.

That’s bit of an ambit claim.

I think they need a Native American name.

The Tassie Siouxtoas.

sfw
sfw
May 2, 2023 5:43 pm

DrBeauGan, read the link, they’re not as hard on sex with the dead as you may think.

Dot
Dot
May 2, 2023 5:44 pm

The idea that the West Coast Pirates need a commercial agreement with the Pittsburgh Pirates or the Boston Celtics need a commercial agreement with Celtic FC is silly.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
May 2, 2023 5:45 pm

Eyriesays:
May 2, 2023 at 5:16 pm
Steve, looks like a fuel air explosive to me. Smaller explosion at first to disperse the liquid and gasify it then set it off.

Could be. I am just curious. What the Russians can do will scalar tech is noteworthy.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
May 2, 2023 5:46 pm

“Societies must advance and not cling to traditionalism,” Ana said. “Homosexuals were also not allowed to marry once, and now they can.

This is the wrong part. OK, she’s inadvertently married a man who is her half brother and had two kids. Alright, what’s done is done, now go away, live your life, and forget about it. It’s probably happened a bit in the past when in small villages people may not always have known who their true father was.

Just don’t try to make a new reality of it. It’s not a good thing to do. It’s illegal for a reason.
This is another way in which the homosexual ‘love is love’ mantra can be fashioned against the good.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
May 2, 2023 5:47 pm

Covid and the politicised responses have led to a distrust in public health measures and procedures that is particularly unfortunate, for the metaphor of throwing the baby out with the bathwater applies

This was always my argument against the idiocy of “totally not a mandate” covid vaccinations. The flow on effect of damaged public trust in a proven medical program will cause a lot of misery.
Id also state that the blanket “your kid couldnt have a reaction to the vaccine” preceding Covid fed into it as well. A mature “there is a one in 100,000* chance of an adverse reaction – we will assess your child before and a month after the vax and compensate/support any adverse outcome” to parents would have been more sensible.
Explaining to people the 1 in 100,000 vs 1 in 1000 chance of injury/death if not vaccinated should convince most people.

*figure feculated – not a real one.

Dot
Dot
May 2, 2023 5:48 pm

Tasmanian Spring Heeled Jacks.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
May 2, 2023 5:50 pm

It was the lady with the sleeve tattoos & trout pout complaining about how every relationship she found on tinder went the same way.
And the problem must be everyone else, not her doing the same thing and expecting a different result.

Yes, well. It would be instructive to see what was actually on her profile. If it has any , some or all of these:

NO CHEATERS!
My children are my life!
Curvy, deal with it!
Spiritual!
Be amazed at my journey!
Want someone to travel the world with!

You’ll need a low-loader backing up to the front door, ready for the pre-ordered crane to lift and place allllll that baggage onto it before you get to pay for both her Wagyu steak, and also to unblock your eardrums the next day after two hours of AMAB at concert level pitch combined with daddy issues.

Sorry, toots. Life’s too short.

Dot
Dot
May 2, 2023 5:51 pm

Society can advance, become enlightened and cling to, slightly vary from or become more traditional.

In fact I’d say it likely cannot otherwise. So many things we have are there because they work for practical reasons or of economy.

COVID era law and regulation was an extreme move away from traditionalism in our English common law heritage back to 1215 and we were worse for it. That’s pretty dang gum traditional outside of Catholicism or Judaism.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
May 2, 2023 5:53 pm

We then looked at the death rates pre and post vaxx in a number of different countries, noting too that levels of available medical aid and also nutritional status were factors to consider in epidemic spread.

Quite so. And now give a little thought to the things you didn’t investigate. There are rather a lot. Impact on diabetes, the immune system generally, are but two of the more obvious. How do you know it isn’t responsible for the current dropping in IQ?

I would have pushed for vaccines for some of the more obvious diseases, polio and diphtheria in particular, but I am more dubious about chicken pox and measles.
Saving children’s lives is something we’re programmed to do. Preservation of the species seems to be a much weaker urge, and totally absent in many.
But it is at least possible that interventions that preserve those with an inadequate immune system will eventually destroy all humanity. I’d like to at least consider these issues.

Lysander
Lysander
May 2, 2023 5:53 pm

Tasmania Truganinas

Lysander
Lysander
May 2, 2023 5:53 pm

(you know it’s likely)

Dot
Dot
May 2, 2023 5:57 pm

We may not know the effects for a while. Maybe a time series analysis “intervention analysis” is required many years later (I’ve never done that for panel data, I expect it to be a bitch). I keep on posting that RNA rewriting DNA article from 2021 because until then, the same year the COVID vaccines (Pfizer: mRNA) came out these sorts of concerns were ignored. The finding that RNA can rewrite DNA is paradigm shifting. It’s huge. Like finding penicillin or the structure of benzene.

Lysander
Lysander
May 2, 2023 5:57 pm

But surely it’d have to be the Tasmanian Turkey?

Oh, sorry, Lambie got that.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
May 2, 2023 5:58 pm

The Tassie BobBrowns – because they’ll be at the bottom for a long time.
Green guernsey with a yellow stripe.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
May 2, 2023 5:59 pm

Tasmania All Blak (line)
Tasmanian Browns (Bob)
Tassie mendicants?
Tassie “let us win or we will cut the bass straight cable during the grand final” Powerhouses.

Dot
Dot
May 2, 2023 5:59 pm

I would have pushed for vaccines for some of the more obvious diseases, polio and diphtheria in particular, but I am more dubious about chicken pox and measles.

I didn’t get it as a kid and it nearly wiped me out as an adult. I saw a bloke at work get shingles back in 2010. He wasn’t quite as bad but I was shocked he turned up to work.

calli
calli
May 2, 2023 6:00 pm

Measles can have hideous complications, DrBeau. It’s “in” for me. And if you’ve ever heard a little baby with whooping cough…well, yes.

It all depends on your life experience I’m afraid. And tetanus, plus updates, because manures and various site risks.

The point was made earlier, and it was well made – our dumb politicians and their even more stupid CHOs have set confidence in public health back decades. There will always be cohorts of imbeciles who think these halfwits are gods, but for many…many people…not so much. My confidence in the medical profession is at its nadir, I just don’t trust them at all.

Lysander
Lysander
May 2, 2023 6:02 pm

Tassie Twisters
Tassie Tornadoes
Tassie Titans
Map of Tassie (for equity)

Figures
Figures
May 2, 2023 6:04 pm

It may not be popular here but I won’t stay silent about refusal to vaccinate young children against measles, mumps, rubella and whooping cough. I think it is very misguided to go anti-vaxx on these

Such a brave contrarian you are!

Never mind that you’ve believed in vaccines with a religious conviction ever since your parents and kindergarten teacher told you to.

Oh no. Sorry. I meant you believe in the SCIENCE!!!

Anybody who goes tabula rasa will reject all vaccines. One minute’s thought is sufficient to realise they’re impossible in multiple ways. For example, there’s no way to reconcile the concept of immunity with chronic viral infection. It’s a round square.

And if aliens came to visit us and anybody tried to explain germ theory to them the first thing they would say is: “but then why the **** do all the sick people congregate in hospitals and doctor offices then?”

And so far the best anybody has ever come up with is “ummm, it’s complicated!”

I very much doubt the alien would be impressed.

But how about we ignore logic – as that’s too difficult for pro-vaxers – and go with data.

What has happened to total rates of congenital defects, sterility, encephalitis and respiratory hospitalizations since the rubella mumps, measles and pertussis vaccines?

Also, total rates of liver cancer since hepatitis b vax.

Total rates of paralysis since polio vax.

Total rates of invasive disease since the various meningitis vaccines.

Lysander
Lysander
May 2, 2023 6:04 pm

Google’s Head of AI Research has quit, stating he has many problems with what is being developed and would only be free to discuss them if not working for google anymore…

Figures
Figures
May 2, 2023 6:05 pm

And tetanus, plus updates, because manures and various site risks

Oh and trismus rates since the tetanus vaccine.

calli
calli
May 2, 2023 6:05 pm

Like a moth to a flame.

Dot
Dot
May 2, 2023 6:05 pm

And if aliens came to visit us and anybody tried to explain germ theory to them the first thing they would say is: “but then why the **** do all the sick people congregate in hospitals and doctor offices then?”

They could ask the same about schools, and they’d be correct – it is a calculated risk we accept.

Lysander
Lysander
May 2, 2023 6:06 pm

How would you like your fish? Printed?

https://www.rt.com/news/575623-3d-bioprinted-fish-market/

Stakeholder Foods has developed a 3D printed grouper fish fillet from stem cells, which are then processed via bioprinting technology into a fish-like shape. The product, which was created in conjunction with Umami Meats, mimics the taste and texture of natural fish, and it could be on supermarket shelves later this year.

slackster
slackster
May 2, 2023 6:06 pm

Easy money for the wily old fella:

70 year old Dave entered a World Poker Tour Ladies Event at the Seminole Hard Rock.
The ladies + Internet gathered a $2k + bounty on him.
He went on to win it…he is the ladies event champion.

https://twitter.com/KevinRobMartin/status/1652760368241061890

Rafiki
Rafiki
May 2, 2023 6:07 pm

Would not that be “the Tassie Maps”?
A great ploy to publicise their existence. Or maybe this is the name for the AWFL team.

calli
calli
May 2, 2023 6:07 pm

Slackster! Long time no see! 😀

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
May 2, 2023 6:08 pm

Tasmanian Spring Heeled Jacks.

Since we’re being silly I’ll announce that I’ve developed a new sport called footbird.
I’m a wing heeled jack, at least I was this afternoon. I did live in Tassie for a couple years!

Eyrie
Eyrie
May 2, 2023 6:08 pm

But it is at least possible that interventions that preserve those with an inadequate immune system will eventually destroy all humanity. I’d like to at least consider these issues.

Same with IVF. Requires rich technologically advanced society.

Lysander
Lysander
May 2, 2023 6:10 pm

Maybe the new team’s name could be North Melbourne Football Club?

Dot
Dot
May 2, 2023 6:11 pm

Bruce of Newcastle says:
May 2, 2023 at 6:08 pm

Tasmanian Spring Heeled Jacks.

Since we’re being silly

You’re getting Danny Archer vibes off me now, American.

Oh, are we now!?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
May 2, 2023 6:12 pm

Btw I enjoyed The Strange Affair of Spring-Heeled Jack by Mark Hodder.
Fine steampunk.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
May 2, 2023 6:13 pm

Most well-informed cardiologists are not too worried about overall ‘cholesterol’ these days as the picture is very complicated regarding the various types, their origins, and their varied chemical roles in the body. As for Statins, they prescribe these for their anti-inflammatory effect as much as any cholesterol-lowering features they have; some careful prescribers will often only use them for patients who have already had a heart attack. My own cardiologist says he doesn’t prescribe Statins to anyone over 85 as they lose this effect. My heart and arterial calcium score are fine, so I don’t take them at all.

The internet is alive with epidemiological studies about this, made into informative videos provided you choose qualified speakers for perusal, those who refer to competent studies.

Black Ball
Black Ball
May 2, 2023 6:14 pm

Tasmania Truganinas

We have a winner! Well done

Cassie of Sydney
May 2, 2023 6:14 pm

Federal Labor governments ban vaping, whilst Labor governments open medically supervised injecting rooms.

Unbelievable.

JC
JC
May 2, 2023 6:15 pm

Really, like this is a thing over there?

BBC News (World)

Japan to ban upskirting in sweeping sex crime reforms

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
May 2, 2023 6:15 pm

reactionary or revanchist?

Revanchist is simply wrong. The first synonym offered for reactionary is conservative.

I’m neither conservative nor liberal. The conservative places too high a value on tradition, the liberal trusts his reason far more than is reasonable. I’m an engineer by temperament: I quite like novelty and variety and change, but I want to try them out first to make sure I like them and that they don’t come with unattractive side effects. So I experiment very, very cautiously, and make sure nothing is done that can’t be readily reversed.

I try not to use the words liberal or conservative as terms of abuse. Sometimes, it’s tempting.

Dot
Dot
May 2, 2023 6:16 pm

Federal Labor governments ban vaping

They are available at many mixed businesses sir, and come again!

Frank
Frank
May 2, 2023 6:17 pm

And I’m old enough to remember kids in callipers from polio.

Had callipers for a few years as a kid, not from polio. Went to a specialist as an adult and he asked how they treated it. When I told him he burst out with a big booming laugh and let me know that they didn’t work and that there was never any evidence that they did in the first place. At times like that the Clint Eastwood forehead vein begins twitching and bad thoughts ensue.

The one thing about the past mortality figures in pre-vaccinated populations is the difference in medical care that was available then compared to now.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
May 2, 2023 6:18 pm

Like a moth to a flame.

Berley’s been laid out all day for this.

Plasmamortar
Plasmamortar
May 2, 2023 6:24 pm

The combination of a broken investment market plus high immigration plus high inflation will lead to sky-rocketing rent prices.

Dear me, Catallaxians. Every time you use Keynesian euphemisms to describe currency devaluation, a cute kitten dies.

Yes, we all know the source of inflation is government making money printer go brrrr….

It doesn’t change the point I was making, which is how the government will ‘solve’ a problem it created.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
May 2, 2023 6:25 pm

My goodness, figures is an all or nothing man. It’s all due to vaxxes.
Whatever uncontested ‘rate’ he decides to announce.
And immunity doesn’t ‘square’ with a constant but reduced viral load.
Pathogens don’t exist and don’t attack humans either.

Dear me. I am hoping that he might be on the wrong site.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
May 2, 2023 6:25 pm

Measles can have hideous complications, DrBeau. It’s “in” for me. And if you’ve ever heard a little baby with whooping cough…well, yes.

You’re a woman, calli. So even more strongly programmed than I am to ‘think of the children’. It’s a natural reaction. And it might be lethal to the species.

Eyrie
Eyrie
May 2, 2023 6:25 pm

Most well-informed cardiologists are not too worried about overall ‘cholesterol’ these days

Most GP’s still push this bullshit. It the “the protocol” which they must follow. Mrs Eyrie went for a 6 months prescription renewal today. They won’t deviate from the narrative. Technicians, not professionals.
Agree the Statins may have some benefit as blood thinners and anti inflammatory agents. Even Dr Malcolm Kendrick agrees. Take 100 mg of aspirin instead and you won’t get the statin side effects. As I said, friends ran a pharmacy. The lady pharmacist had heaps of people complaining about the statin side effects.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
May 2, 2023 6:26 pm

Berley’s been laid out all day for this.

Not so much berly as a fresh crop of Kooka stoves laid out like a WW1 minefield.

Cassie of Sydney
May 2, 2023 6:26 pm

“And if you’ve ever heard a little baby with whooping cough…well, yes.”

I remember hearing my mother with whooping cough, I’ve never forgotten it, it’s a “hacking cough” . I can’t tell you how awful it is to hear but it’s worse when you’re suffering from the disease. How did my mother catch it? Who knows, however back in 1993 she used to drop off and collect my little nephew everyday at an inner-city kindergarten. The 1990s was a decade in which vaccination levels dropped steeply. Whilst my mother had been vaccinated against whooping cough in the 1940s, it had clearly had worn off and at her age (she was in her 50s then) she had little immunity. What made matters worse was that her doctor, having never seen a case of whooping cough misdiagnosed her, she was then taken to St Vinnies and only there did the doctors diagnose her and give her antibiotics. The doctors were shocked. Mum spent weeks in bed. I’ve never forgotten the sound of the cough, and that awful, dreadful cough stayed with her for months.

Cassie of Sydney
May 2, 2023 6:28 pm

Ho hum, the Victorian Liberal Party is imploding again.

Winston Smith
May 2, 2023 6:29 pm

Eyrie:

Steve, looks like a fuel air explosive to me. Smaller explosion at first to disperse the liquid and gasify it then set it off.

Fair enough – the 1:56 explosion looked like a mini nuke, and I would have treated it like one until I looked around and saw electronics still working.
Mind you, I wouldn’t give up any shelter for a good while until shit stopped dropping out of the sky.

Dot
Dot
May 2, 2023 6:30 pm

A safer alternative to smoking gets banned, but smoking isn’t banned and excise tax automatically goes up every six months. Also, the rules of evading tobacco excise are harsh and extreme, even for non-commercial quantities.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
May 2, 2023 6:32 pm

he is the ladies event champion

Sad thing is that circuses won’t ever have bearded ladies anymore. Boring! See them every day.

On such things: well played sir ma’am. (via Instapundit today)

Roger
Roger
May 2, 2023 6:33 pm

COVID era law and regulation was an extreme move away from traditionalism in our English common law heritage back to 1215 and we were worse for it.

Borrowed from the CCP.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
May 2, 2023 6:36 pm

Not so much berly as a fresh crop of Kooka stoves laid out like a WW1 minefield.

The greatest scene in Australian film history, bar none.

‘Brian. Mate, you talk too much.’

And:

‘What the f*** is that?’
‘Ah, that’s an Early Kooka mate. Don’t make them like they used to.’

Good times.

H B Bear
H B Bear
May 2, 2023 6:40 pm

Ho hum, the Victorian Liberal Party is imploding again.

Take a number and move to the back of the line. They should be getting good at this by now. If they ever start fighting the Liars like this they’ll be unstoppable.

Winston Smith
May 2, 2023 6:40 pm

Doc Beaugan:

It’s a vivid picture you paint, but you’re a trifle partisan. What word other than conservative would you use to describe a stodgy old fart who hated having his preconceptions challenged?

A conservative is one who conserves the good ideas from the past, and rejects the bad. I’m a conservative and I have no problems having my ideas challenged.
A conservative is not necessarily a stodgy old fart who hates having their ideas challenged and I object to being lumped in with them.
OK – I’ll accept an old fart, but not stodgy.
Generously proportioned perhaps, but not stodgy.

calli
calli
May 2, 2023 6:40 pm

You’re a woman, calli. So even more strongly programmed than I am to ‘think of the children’. It’s a natural reaction. And it might be lethal to the species.

And you’re a man and therefore more pragmatic than me?

Okay.

Yet women kill their children every day. This blog is full of the horrors of it. Perhaps they’re a different type of woman.

johanna
johanna
May 2, 2023 6:42 pm

Cassie of Sydney says:
May 2, 2023 at 6:14 pm

Federal Labor governments ban vaping, whilst Labor governments open medically supervised injecting rooms.

Unbelievable.

Well, it’s no more inconsistent than jurisdictions banning people from smoking tobacco but being fine with them smoking pot.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
May 2, 2023 6:43 pm

Suppose aliens came here. And suppose that because of convergent evolution they looked exactly like human beans, except that their females looked much more attractive than ours.

What would the religious position be on having a sexual relationship between the species be? You’re genetically closer to a lobster than you are to what looks like a gorgeous chick, so it’s definitely some form of bestiality, but she could give informed consent, if she was in the mood. It couldn’t possibly lead to offspring, so it counts as a perversion. But it might be quite enjoyable for both parties.

Would it be immoral to have a shag with an alien?

Plasmamortar
Plasmamortar
May 2, 2023 6:45 pm

Would it be immoral to have a shag with an alien?

Who cares, as long as she’s hot 😉

Cassie of Sydney
May 2, 2023 6:48 pm

“Well, it’s no more inconsistent than jurisdictions banning people from smoking tobacco but being fine with them smoking pot.”

I agree.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
May 2, 2023 6:49 pm

A conservative is not necessarily a stodgy old fart who hates having their ideas challenged and I object to being lumped in with them.

Not nececelery. Velly plobabry, but not nececelery. H/T, Benny Hill.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
May 2, 2023 6:49 pm

Vaxxes do work. There is some point to them for known childhood killers. I’d say vaxx young kids for flu if they have serious health problems lowering immunity, otherwise not, rely on natural immunity. You are crazy if you don’t vaxx kids for measles, mumps, rubella, and whooping cough, the epidemiology shows that. Otherwise it could be welcome to your dead or seriously damaged kid. Most vaxxes are permanent and need no updating, or only limited updating.

I put this up at 12.44 in response to Rosie’s info about flu vaxxes for children. Totally ignored, which annoyed me, for that suggests no-one agrees and labels this site as an anti-vaxxer paradise, which I know that it is not. Therefore I reiterated its substance at 2.02. I knew it would be burley, KD, but I am glad that the bait was taken, because these issues do need to be discussed here; Rosie’s further contribution made me reconsider my views re flu vaxx for kids, for instance. I don’t think it hurts to make it plain that Catallaxy isn’t a site that is pushing for you to not vaccinate your kids against common childhood diseases. If it was entirely that, I wouldn’t comment here and I suspect others would not also. Skeptical disagreement, concerns about immune overload, and even a changing of viewpoint – that’s OK – but blind acceptance of non-vaccinating kids, no thanks.

Winston Smith
May 2, 2023 6:50 pm

Lysander:

The product, which was created in conjunction with Umami Meats, mimics the taste and texture of natural fish, and it could be on supermarket shelves later this year.

…and there it shall remain even during food riots.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
May 2, 2023 6:52 pm

A conservative is not necessarily a stodgy old fart who hates having their ideas challenged and I object to being lumped in with them.

Actually, I said preconceptions, not ideas. One such preconception might, for example, be the correct use of the word conservative. Just saying.

calli
calli
May 2, 2023 6:52 pm

You guys will get probed. You know this.

Be prepared.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
May 2, 2023 6:54 pm

Anyway, I’m off to visit Mr. Motivator again.

Good to stretch out from an arvo more or less on the computer.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
May 2, 2023 6:56 pm

…and there it shall remain even during food riots.

I’ll give it a try. Just to see what it’s like.

See what I mean about conservatives?

Old Lefty
Old Lefty
May 2, 2023 6:58 pm

The ABC will no longer rely on a ‘truth’ defence in a case in which the judge has found it made ten defamatory imputations against Heston Russell:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-05-02/abc-to-use-public-interest-defence-in-heston-russell-case/102293892

Quelle surprise, as Hendo would say: since when did the ABC ever care about truth? But apparently it’s in the public interest to slime someone with allegations you can’t prove -at least if the targets are nasty conservativeses.

Winston Smith
May 2, 2023 7:02 pm

Cassie of Sydney:

I remember hearing my mother with whooping cough, I’ve never forgotten it, it’s a “hacking cough”

In kids, it’s the ‘whoop whoop’ noise before the cough that is the dead giveaway. Hear it once – never forget it.

Frank
Frank
May 2, 2023 7:08 pm

Who cares, as long as she’s hot

You assume gender there at your own peril.

Winston Smith
May 2, 2023 7:11 pm

Bruce O’Nuke:
https://twitter.com/BillboardChris/status/1652755652740284416
Billboard Chris:

I can’t imagine how difficult this must have been. Bravo, Mr. Webb.

The part that isn’t getting air time is his rebuttal to the critics – “You set these rules up years ago, and you don’t get to change them when they don’t go your way.”
There are some really good replies:
https://twitter.com/i/status/1652630757238534144

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
May 2, 2023 7:14 pm

calli there’s a lot that like being probed.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
May 2, 2023 7:15 pm

One of the things the great vaxx debate reminds me of is smoking tobacco.
The health Nazis said it was bad, could cause cancer and heart problems, et cetera.
I’m quite prepared to believe that the data is correct. But what strikes me is that the health Nazis completely ignored the possibility of benefits. It’s not inconceivable that there are benefits which outweigh the risks. For example, maybe it reduces neuroticism; certainly the health Nazis show vulnerability in this area. Or maybe it reduces the risk of
schizophrenia. Who knows? Nobody seems to have looked at potential benefits. Maybe because it would take all the fun out of being a health Nazi.

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