Open Thread – Tues 23 May 2023


Harbour of Trieste, Egon Schiele, 1907

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Chris
Chris
May 24, 2023 2:19 pm

But if anyone does note anything they find actually offensive in what I wrote, do let me know.

Simplest explanation: algorithm from keywords.
I stopped subscribing, mostly to save money. But the rejection of many of my comments was frustrating, and usually attributable to unseemly intensifier words.

johanna
johanna
May 24, 2023 2:26 pm

Knuckle Dragger says:
May 24, 2023 at 10:19 am

That’s it…I’m off to make a roast chicken sandwich on white bread

Ensure the chook bits are covered with salt. And I mean covered.

You’ll live to 150.
4

I vividly remember eating roast chook (with lots of salt) on white bread sandwiches on an early morning long distance bus.

Delicious.

Kneel
Kneel
May 24, 2023 2:28 pm

“..it always amazes me how the various “victim” groups are unable to grasp that it’s the very people they keep demonising who empowered them when they didn’t have to.”

Yeah, this whole “you don’t know what it’s like being xxx” drives me crazy – self evidently I do not, since I am not xxx. And you do not know what it is like to be yyy – because you are not. What is your point? That you didn’t get a choice? Neither did I!

The law and other rules that we currently have are sufficient to allow anyone, regardless of race, colour, creed, religion, sex or sexuality to be successful – if they have the talent, skills, attitude and fortitude to do so. If you have none of these, then you can work hard to obtain them or overcome their lack, at which point you will succeed. Stop using your race/colour/creed/sex/sexuality/whatever as an excuse to be lazy – if your life is bad, get off your backside and do something about it! You are no more entitled to the fruits of the sweat of my brow than I am of yours. Turn your disadvantage into an advantage – if life hands you lemons, make lemonade and stop complaining that you think life handed me strawberries! I assure you life has handed me more than a few lemons, the same as most of the rest of the world and I did as most everyone has to – I got up, dusted myself off, said “Bugger! Didn’t see that one coming” and tried again. And again. And again. I try to learn from each mistake I make – and I have made and will continue to make plenty of them – to get something positive from it. So I ask no more of you than I require from myself.

Life is what you make it – if you make it nothing, it will be nothing, and there is no-one to blame but you.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
May 24, 2023 2:34 pm

In Hopefully the ABC Stenographer Became Confused and It’s Not Really Happening Like This news:

$100m spent on underground mapping before tunnelling woes, Snowy Hydro boss admits

Mr Barnes has now acknowledged that a huge boring machine known as Florence, which became trapped underground in December, may be stuck for “weeks or months” longer.

He said significant efforts were being made to extricate the 2,000-tonne machine, which triggered a sinkhole when it struck trouble 70 metres into a 17-kilometre journey.

Part of these efforts would include constructing a slurry machine that can “liquefy” the soil in front of the borer, making its passage forwards easier.

Technical Note 1: In fact this “slurry machine” will be providing pressurised slurry to hold up the unconsolidated ground ahead of the TBM, and prevent water and loose material from falling into the excavation and extending the sinkhole that has the TBM trapped. In this situation, ‘liquefying the soil’ is not your friend.

Under questioning from Nationals senator Perin Davey, Mr Barnes revealed the latest troubles arose despite Snowy Hydro spending tens of millions of dollars on geotechnical work.

“Prior to the financial investment decision there was in the order of $100m spent on geotechnical surveys,” Mr Barnes said.

“So we feel we have good coverage of the site.

“We are obviously looking at all sorts of ways to mitigate the schedule delay.

“But once you get the tunnel boring machine going you can … do imaging in front of the tunnel boring machine and go around any significant issues.”

Technical Note 2: Geomechanics 101 tells us that the high risk area in any underground excavation is where you have shallow cover, which may be unconsolidated and prone to collapse. In this case, exactly where Florence is presently stuck. So, perhaps a bit ambitious to claim “good coverage of the site”.

Technical Note 3: ‘Imaging’ the ground ahead and slaloming around any geological obstacles sounds pretty hi-tech and will no doubt thrill the Hon Senators. In reality, Florence is a big, complicated, 2,000 tonne behemoth capable (with extensive forward planning) of only very gentle steering (say 10mm in every 1000mm advance).

Not sure what ‘imaging’ Mr Barnes is imagining, but zigzagging around, reacting to difficult ground conditions on the fly, is not in the TBM Operating Manual. The cost and delay issues in this throwaway line are not insignificant.

Historical Note: Snowy 2.0 was gifted to Australia by Miserable Ghost, as a $2 bn ‘up and running by 2021’ windfall. Currently up and running towards $10 bn by 2029 – a few years after Eraring shuts down.

Luckily:

Unlike other forms of storage such as batteries, which typically can only discharge for a matter of hours, Snowy 2.0 would be able to provide power continuously for up to seven days.

It was this capability, Mr Barnes said, that made pumped hydro so critical to backing up intermittent wind and solar generation.

“I think it’s an incredibly important asset to the energy transition and I fully expect it to be very commercial,” Mr Barnes said.

But, not Too Cheap to Meter?
Top Men.

H B Bear
H B Bear
May 24, 2023 2:39 pm

And always put in extra banana.

I think I’ve seen that video. Can happen on the Internet.

H B Bear
H B Bear
May 24, 2023 2:42 pm

Oh, forgot to say a few weeks back re Doomlord, he made an appearance at a footy match recently on the telly.

Still not happy about the Essendon doping thing I expect.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
May 24, 2023 2:44 pm

Brittany Higgins’ ‘drive to be in media’ made work difficult: top cop

By Kristin Shorten
Investigative Journalist
and Remy Varga
NSW Reporter
@RemyVarga
2:31PM May 24, 2023

The senior police officer who oversaw the investigation into Brittany Higgins’ rape allegation says the complainant’s “drive to be in the media” made their work “difficult”, and that it impacted their relationship with the Victims of Crime Commissioner.

Detective Superintendent Scott Moller is giving his third day of evidence at the Board of Inquiry into the ACT’s criminal justice system, chaired by Walter Sofronoff KC.

During cross examination of Supt Moller, Heidi Yates’s lawyer asserted that the Victims of Crime Commissioner was “well within her rights” to become Ms Higgins’ support person and act as a conduit between the complainant and police who were investigating her rape claim against Bruce Lehrmann.

Peggy Dwyer said that under the Victims of Crime Commission Act the Ms Yates “is entitled to be present at the hearing of a proceeding” and act as a complainant’s support person if she chooses or is asked to do so.

Supt Moller admitted that the relationship between police and Ms Higgins, before Ms Yates was involved, was already “difficult”.

“You’ve pointed out it was frustrating for police, wasn’t it, trying to work with Ms Higgins to help develop the case?” she asked.

Supt Moller confirmed that Ms Higgins’ strategy in prioritising media engagement over the police investigation “made it difficult for investigators”.

“It was difficult because of the perceived interest that Ms Higgins had in the media, the drive that Ms Higgins showed to be in the media,” he said.

The inquiry heard that on April 8, 2021 Supt Moller received a briefing document from Detective Inspector Marcus Boorman, authored by Detective Sergeant Garreth Saunders, saying that Ms Higgins had asked for the investigation into her rape allegation to be re-opened but that she had refused to provide a police statement at that time.

“Yes, she had had an engagement with the media at that time,” Supt Moller said.

“The significance for me at that time was that Ms Higgins had already done media interviews and it appeared to me, from what I was told, that Ms Higgins wanted the matter reported and wanted it to be a ‘live’ investigation, is the word she used.

“And my opinion was that she wanted it ‘live’ to give credibility to the story that was being aired between February and May.”

Supt Moller said investigators’ frustrations deepened when Ms Higgins would not produce her mobile phone for examination.

Supt Moller, who has been an investigator since 1994, said he had enjoyed a “productive and respectful” working relationship with Ms Yates prior to investigating the rape allegation against Mr Lehrmann.

H B Bear
H B Bear
May 24, 2023 2:48 pm

ScoMo really should be keeping the lowest of profiles.

Fortunately his innate ability should help him here. Australia’s Jim Hacker.

H B Bear
H B Bear
May 24, 2023 3:00 pm

It seems fair to appear Brittany didn’t make it easy for people she thought were not on Team Brittany. Listening to too many people whose legal experience consisted of watching CSI.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
May 24, 2023 3:07 pm

Adam Creighton has an article up at Oz and via his Twitter about Australian Twitter files. Matt Taibbi Twitter has more details. The Oz article not getting many comments so perhaps the Government also given them their orders.

Dept of Home Affairs were sending “hefty lists” to Twitter to suppress. Don’t mention the point the virus was man made was one Twitter rule. Although that was a couple of years ago.

Yet another reason why there will never be a Royal Commission. They are all involved.

Old Lefty
Old Lefty
May 24, 2023 3:09 pm

Albanese has apparently promised Modi “swift action” over attacks on temples:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-05-24/narendra-modi-calls-for-action-against-indian-separatists/102386294

But when are we going to see any action about the spate of unsolved arson attacks on churches in Victoria stretching back almost a decade?

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
May 24, 2023 3:26 pm

From Courier Mail. Does this mean if he was not playing they would not be flying the flag? What a sick world we are in.

“Israel Folau’s World XV selection prompts LGBTQIA+ flag to fly over Twickenham”.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
May 24, 2023 3:26 pm

Marcus Stewart’s claim to be a proud “Nira illim bulluk man of the Taungurung Nation” is based on an Aboriginal great – great grandfather.

I have a great solution – take away all the special departments, quotas, funding, preferments, all the extra stuff just for Aborigines.

Get a great red pen and strike a line through it all.

Gone!

I think he will then discover that he lives in a society without racism. One where there is no big deal if you are white or black or yellow. (Rangas are not a race!)

H B Bear
H B Bear
May 24, 2023 3:29 pm

Some of these claims of Aboriginality would make Elizabeth Warren blush.

Crossie
Crossie
May 24, 2023 3:30 pm

Tom says:
May 24, 2023 at 12:29 pm
Andrews is now beyond satire.
He’s an authoritarian autocrat in bed with the Chinese Communist Party, who the little people in his own parliamentary party are scared of, but he’s figured out how to control democratic retail politics —
You need a topline political opposition to take him on. Instead, we have the Stupid Frigging Liberals,

Andrews hasn’t figured out anything, he is just very lucky with his opposition as has already been pointed out. As far as I am concerned the opposition is as guilty for the situation in Victoria since they refuse to provide an acceptable alternative. Losing one election while they are learning is one thing but losing a series of elections means enemy action and they should be completely scrapped.

shatterzzz
May 24, 2023 3:31 pm

“You’ve pointed out it was frustrating for police, wasn’t it, trying to work with Ms Higgins to help develop the case?” she asked.
Why would plod be “working” with “nickerless” .. maybe I watch too much TV but my impression of investigating is the victim reports the crime and other than statements or ID parades leading to an arrest plod does the digging around not spend time “consulting” with the victim ……..

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
May 24, 2023 3:35 pm

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-05-24/adf-chief-calls-to-remove-medals-from-afghan-soldiers/102383514

Somebody has been unkind enough to suggest that Campbell hands back his own medals…

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
May 24, 2023 3:37 pm

The Daily Mail link above is prefaced by a story about Mafia intimidation and someone complying to corruption even though he knew it was wrong. Compliance comes readily with a gun to your head.

It then continues on ..

This may sound like the opening scene to a Martin Scorsese film, but trust me, it’s a true story. Not just of corruption, but also of fear — and how fear can very quickly throw our moral compass off balance. People will do or say anything when there’s a gun to their head.

We like to kid ourselves we live in more civilised times, but the truth is these days we all have that metaphorical gun to our heads. There is a new kind of cultural mafia in town, one that styles itself as kind and caring and compassionate and socially sophisticated — but which is, in fact, just as ruthless, just as determined, to bend us to its will.

Every day, in all sorts of ways, they make us offers we can’t refuse, and we find ourselves being asked to say and think things that are manifestly not true.

And so we agree that women can have penises (Lib Dem leader Ed Davey maintained in a radio interview on LBC today that this was ‘quite clear’). And that men can give birth. We applaud as people with thighs like tree-trunks and Adam’s apples accept first prize in female sporting competitions, dwarfing their exhausted and bemused rivals.

We do our best not to flinch as biological males get paid untold sums to advertise tampons and sports bras. We stand back as children are given puberty-blocking hormones and encouraged to mutilate their bodies. We allow convicted rapists to inveigle themselves into women’s prisons.

We watch in silence as those whose views or behaviours don’t comply with the dogma of the impeccably woke are defenestrated, their words and actions twisted out of all proportion.

We nod as our books and plays and comedy sketches are re-written, excised of nuance, purged of meaningful, thoughtful, original or — God forbid — humorous content. We accept our history being re-written out of context and time, sacrifice our heroes to the modern cult of victimhood and blame.

… and we see immediately that this is worse than the mafia, because it’s not intimidation from just one criminal organisation, this is intimidation by an ideology that has its grip on a whole society: this is what Communism is about. They come for you, your job and your family, they make you a non-person (like the old Soviet Deep-Sixing), and they stifle your right to say what you think, to live as you choose and to have an honest say in your own future.

Our one opportunity now is to say NO quite strongly to another attempt to blindside us with their fake blandishments while they implement yet more of their onerous ideology on the last bastion of a free people – on our Constitution. This is no kindly feel-good exercise to assist aboriginal people (they are not First Nations, they were never nations) and to simply ‘listen’ to representatives (unelected though they will be). This is a grab at power to change the very nature of our sovereignty. Worse will follow.

Time to say NO to more of the same.

Morsie
Morsie
May 24, 2023 3:37 pm

Lady I know said to me today that the problem with the LIbs in Victoria is that the right wing has been taken over.Bollocks says I although more politely.
Its truly amazing how successful the gaslighting has been.The Libs have become far right without any far right policies.

Vicki
Vicki
May 24, 2023 3:38 pm

Simplest explanation: algorithm from keywords.

Yeah – I reckon this must explain what is happening.

Today, having not much to do, I perused my file of published letters to the Oz – which goes back many, many years.
I can tell you that the majority would not pass muster by the censors of The Oz today.

Slim Cognito
Slim Cognito
May 24, 2023 3:39 pm

This whole “aboriginal identity” things should be assessed along the same lines as most countries have for reclaiming citizenship by descent. As far back as grandparents and no further.

That will sort out the fauxboriginals.

Vicki
Vicki
May 24, 2023 3:49 pm

Again, not having much to do …….I scanned a little handbook I have on the “Art of War” by Sun Tzu.

Reading through his chapter on “Planning Offensives”, I see the following entry:

“..the highest realisation of warfare is to attack the enemy’s plans; next to attack their alliances…..”

The Chinese have certainly been disrupting the existing middle eastern and even Pacific alliances of the US – notably the Saudis, Turkey, Iran, Malaysia and even France.

Further, now that the dollar is looking shaky, the yuan is looking good to these turncoats.

local oaf
May 24, 2023 3:54 pm

Lady I know said to me today that the problem with the LIbs in Victoria is that the right wing has been taken over.

Friend of mine (female) genuinely believes the ABC is right wing!
From her point of view, she’s right too.

All through the 9 years of “Liberal” government, every time she switched on the ABC she saw Abbott, Turnbull or Morrison. That they were the government and naturally the centre of attention was of no account. She wanted an ABC on which they never appeared or were mentioned.

In other words, reality was right wing and she objected to it.

Vicki
Vicki
May 24, 2023 3:58 pm

From Dr. Phillip Altman’s Substack today:

In one of the most grotesque votes ever taken in the Australian Senate, a majority of Senators voted NOT TO INVESTIGATE THE UNEXPLAINED NON-COVID EXCESS DEATHS WHICH HAVE OCCURRED SINCE THE INTRODUCTION OF THE COVID-19 “VACCINES”. This is horrifying and terrifying.

If there was any doubt whatsoever that our government is wilfully blind to the death and destruction they have caused…….this is it. The vaccine linked deaths amount to a 737 planeload of passengers unexpectedly falling from the sky every week since January 2021 and our government is not even curious as to why.

As documented by the Australian Bureau of Statistics, more than 10,000 Australians above historical averages are dying of heart attack, stroke, cancer, diabetes, dementia and other neurological diseases since the COVID “vaccines” were released near the start of 2021. These numbers do notinclude COVID declared deaths. This is the worst death rate since WWII and our government has not offered a credible explanation for the deaths. This is more than incompetence and dereliction of duty. In my view, this is sinister.

https://open.substack.com/pub/phillipaltman/p/australian-senate-votes-not-to-investigate?r=j2j4d&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=email

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
May 24, 2023 4:05 pm

Marcus Stewart’s claim to be a proud “Nira illim bulluk man of the Taungurung Nation” is based on an Aboriginal great – great grandfather.

Just eff off.
Half of my relatives and probably a fair swathe of the rest of Australia could be making these sorts of silly claims in that case. If you don’t have at least an aboriginal (and not a part-part-aboriginal) grandpa or grandma then you aren’t aboriginal by any meaningful definition. You should also live in an aboriginal community or network. By any useful definition most aboriginal people, especially those who are needy, today live in the northern parts of Australia, especially if they live in remote communities. They don’t need a Canberra Voice, they need strong leadership and enforceable rules for living. They need more demountable housing in larger towns to facilitate movement away from remote communities and a proper education that dumps traditional culture in favour of useful learning for this century. There’s plenty of land rights money around to ensure they get a fair go without Albo’s Canberra vanity project. Let’s have some audits of where all the money given so far goes before we agree, as we should, to help out any more.
Eff the Voice.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
May 24, 2023 4:06 pm

Mr Barnes has now acknowledged that a huge boring machine known as Florence, which became trapped underground in December, may be stuck for “weeks or months” longer.

Still stuck after six months? I’d laugh except I’m paying for the wretched thing.

Florence The Machine – No Light, No Light (2012)

shatterzzz
May 24, 2023 4:09 pm

Marcus Stewart’s claim to be a proud “Nira illim bulluk man of the Taungurung Nation” is based on an Aboriginal great – great grandfather.

Why do all these “proud” folk keep their ‘whitie” names? .. shirley, yez “pride” would demand ya adopts a “native” moniker …!
Also what is a Nirra illim bulluck man? .. fair whack of “lower case” fer a “proud” man .. LOL!

sfw
sfw
May 24, 2023 4:12 pm

Re the stupid Snowy project. Don’t know if someone else has said this but it seems that the gov exempted the project from a lot of environmental rules the rest of us have to obey. One of them is the law against transporting pest fish species into other waters. Well if you like fishing for trout in Eucumbene, Tantangara and Jindabyne, do it now. The project will draw water from the pondage at Khancoban and pump it up to Tantangara, which is the highest point on the Snowy Scheme, from there it will be released down into the lower lakes. All these lakes have only native species and trout, won’t be long till they have redfin and carp too.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
May 24, 2023 4:13 pm

Let’s have some audits of where all the money given so far goes before we agree, as we should, to help out any more.

I know a bloke wot knows a bloke, who got the job of auditing one of those money trials. He refused to “sign off on the accounts” and was hounded out of town, as a result.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
May 24, 2023 4:15 pm

Veterans say a fresh attempt by the defence force chief to strip service medals from soldiers is unwarranted.

General Angus Campbell has written to a number of Afghanistan war veterans saying their honours for distinguished and conspicuous service could be stripped, the ABC has reported.

The proposition has landed on the desk of Defence Minister Richard Marles, who would need to make a recommendation to the governor-general.

The possible stripping of medals comes in the wake of investigations into potential war crimes carried out by Australian soldiers in Afghanistan.

This bloke should be drummed out of the service. Disgusting.

Anyone named Angus should be ashamed – cattle will be embarrassed.

Big_Nambas
Big_Nambas
May 24, 2023 4:22 pm

FMD just FMD, I just watched the Senate grilling the ABC’s Editor in Chief Anderson, and I can say without doubt that there is no hope for the ABC.
Denial after denial, he actually said that journalistic standards have not dropped under his watch!

I repeat, FMD.

If you are interested the live feed starts again at 4.30 eastern. (foxtel feed)

Top Ender
Top Ender
May 24, 2023 4:23 pm

This one needs a bit of reading between the lines….

Ezekiel Narndu, 19, described as future leader of community during sentencing for Wadeye riots manslaughter

The 19-year-old who killed a man by throwing a steel bar through his skull was an emerging leader of Wadeye, set to be a ‘force for change’ in the community plagued by disadvantage, violence and gang activity, a court has heard.

The Wadeye teen who killed a man by throwing a steel bar through his skull was an emerging leader of the community who was a “force for change”, a court has heard.

Ezekiel Narndu, 19, was found guilty of reckless or negligent manslaughter earlier this month after causing the death of a 32-year-old man, known for cultural reasons as Mr Tcherna, in Wadeye on April 16, 2022.

In sentencing submissions at Darwin Supreme Court on Monday, both prosecution and defence lawyers spoke of Narndu’s prospects as a positive role model in the community often characterised by disadvantage, violence and gang activity.

Narndu graduated Year 12 in 2020, one of a group of seven who were the first to complete high school in Wadeye in 13 years.

The middle child of five boys, he was close with his family. The seven of them shared a two bedroom home where Narndu’s parents always made sure there was power on and food stocked in the fridge.

Narndu was a non-drinker and was working as a teacher’s aide coaching football at the local school, loved by students and teachers alike.

Crown prosecutor Steve Ledek said it was “very difficult” to put forward submissions for a man charged with “one of the most serious crimes” knowing the hopes that had been held for his future.

“There were expectations that a man with his obvious personality of calmness, care, consideration, and education … was going to change the way the community empower itself, give itself opportunities and be a force for change to the things that the community knew were endemically creating disharmony, chaos, disruption, and grief,” Mr Ledek said.

Defence lawyer Beth Wild said the offending was “very much a departure from character”, arguing Narndu had strong prospects for rehabilitation if he received a light sentence.

“It’s actually in the community’s interest to ensure that he doesn’t become a hardened criminal at Holtze correctional facility, that we let him back to the path that he was set upon before this tragic event occurred,” Ms Wild said.

During Narndu’s eight day trial it was revealed the then 18-year-old had been in a crowd of 150 people who were observing an attempt to mediate ongoing unrest between three family groups.

The Narndu family – one of the groups involved – was leading the peace talks, but were disrupted when a young man charged at two police officers with an axe.

Police were forced to retreat and chaos erupted, Narndu entering the fray and lobbing a steel rebar 30m through the air where it tragically speared Mr Tcherna through the face.

Prosecution argued Narndu’s actions were reckless and he threw the bar at Mr Tcherna knowing death was a possibility.

Defence have argued the bar was thrown randomly into the crowd as an act of “posturing”, and the death was an “incredibly unlucky” outcome from Narndu’s negligence.

Narndu will be sentenced at a later date.

NT News

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
May 24, 2023 4:25 pm

That will sort out the fauxboriginals.
You’re fighting the wrong fight.
I’m happy to say to anyone down to 1/1024th that they are genetically Australian Aboriginal- but if they’re carrying phones, driving cars and talking money, they are culturally non-Aboriginal, full stop.
Even if they are, like my man David Unaipon say, a proud and full-blooded member of [their] race.
For too long we’ve let people sidestep responsibility because of their skin-deep physical appearance. I’ve just come back from an Aboriginal Cultural Heritage Act laundry session, and let me say here and now the WA McGowan governement is willingly gifting the entire means of production to an Aboriginal Ruling Caste.

Vicki
Vicki
May 24, 2023 4:27 pm

By any useful definition most aboriginal people, especially those who are needy, today live in the northern parts of Australia, especially if they live in remote communities. They don’t need a Canberra Voice, they need strong leadership and enforceable rules for living. They need more demountable housing in larger towns to facilitate movement away from remote communities and a proper education that dumps traditional culture in favour of useful learning for this century.

Well said, Lizzie! This is exactly what is needed. Sadly, the damage done in encouraging “return to country” & traditional culture/language as basis of education of Aboriginal kids is now so mainstream that I doubt if it can be overturned.

Noel Pearson, for all his recent pigheadedness in relation to the Voice, has done a remarkable job in the Hope community in northern Qld in using “direct education” (AKA teacher oriented instruction of basic education learning modules) to educate community kids up there.

It has not been popular with the Woke establishment in Canberra, but it works.

Robert Sewell
May 24, 2023 4:30 pm

132and bush:

The in cab smoko cake for the last few weeks is a 4 x 2 x 1.5 ( inch) slab of carrot cake with crushed pineapple and sultanas.
Heaven.
Its as though I’m being fattened up for something.

If you can get fattened up on that crumb, there’s something wrong with your metabolism. Have a word to your local shoppie about portion size and the EBA.

Dot
Dot
May 24, 2023 4:30 pm

Re the stupid Snowy project. Don’t know if someone else has said this but it seems that the gov exempted the project from a lot of environmental rules the rest of us have to obey. One of them is the law against transporting pest fish species into other waters. Well if you like fishing for trout in Eucumbene, Tantangara and Jindabyne, do it now. The project will draw water from the pondage at Khancoban and pump it up to Tantangara, which is the highest point on the Snowy Scheme, from there it will be released down into the lower lakes. All these lakes have only native species and trout, won’t be long till they have redfin and carp too.

The upside is that they are Cod bait and the Atlantic Salmon might thrive if they haven’t all died off in Khan Cobain.

Dot
Dot
May 24, 2023 4:30 pm

Cairn Cobain?
Yurt Cobain?

Vicki
Vicki
May 24, 2023 4:36 pm

Ezekiel Narndu, 19, described as future leader of community during sentencing for Wadeye riots manslaughter

The circumstances of this dreadful event can hardly be imagined by most Australians who live in capital cities. Places like Wadeye are tinder boxes for these community disputes. By maintaining these communities we have almost frozen history in relation to Aboriginal life and culture. The same family and clan disputes continue to cause terrible violence and deaths.

And will “The Voice” disband these hellholes and give the Aborigines some hope of a useful and safe existence? Oh sure!

Crossie
Crossie
May 24, 2023 4:39 pm

Vicki says:
May 24, 2023 at 3:58 pm
From Dr. Phillip Altman’s Substack today:

In one of the most grotesque votes ever taken in the Australian Senate, a majority of Senators voted NOT TO INVESTIGATE THE UNEXPLAINED NON-COVID EXCESS DEATHS WHICH HAVE OCCURRED SINCE THE INTRODUCTION OF THE COVID-19 “VACCINES”. This is horrifying and terrifying.

Of course it is terrifying – for the politicians. There is no way they can allow the consequences of the lockdowns and compulsory vaccines which they approved to be determined. Everything must be consigned to forgettery (thanks to Therese Rudd for the word).

Davey Boy
Davey Boy
May 24, 2023 4:40 pm

received this afternoon in email
Dear Friends,
Archbishop Christopher Prowse invites all to a Prayer Vigil for Calvary Hospital at St Christopher’s Cathedral Wednesday, May 24, at 7.30 pm.
The evening will include praying the Rosary, Benediction, songs of worship and short inputs from Archbishop Prowse and Fr Tony Percy.
We will be joined by several Ecumenical and Inter-Faith leaders within the ACT.
Please notify your friends and family of this event.
The Vigil will also be live-streamed at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfVBDW_ADYE
Thank you for your interest.

Link to Save Calvary petition

Dot
Dot
May 24, 2023 4:40 pm

Was James Brown always high?

James Brown getting interviewed high as kite

“I look good, I smell good, I feel good (you sing good) and I make love good…”

(You’re involved in publishing a gospel magazine as well…)

“Joseph P Young is the editor, The Second Coming, the Pope is on the cover…”

“Brother Ted Turner will be on the cover…TED!…where are you!?”

THIS IS A MAN’S WORLD!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMhnIUOOLdE

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
May 24, 2023 4:47 pm

Sadly, the damage done in encouraging “return to country” & traditional culture/language as basis of education of Aboriginal kids is now so mainstream that I doubt if it can be overturned.

The saddest were the cases in the Kimberleys, where children who had been “away to school” returned to their Third World sh!tholes, the cycle of abuse began again, and they took their own lives as a result.

Crossie
Crossie
May 24, 2023 4:50 pm

By any useful definition most aboriginal people, especially those who are needy, today live in the northern parts of Australia, especially if they live in remote communities. They don’t need a Canberra Voice, they need strong leadership and enforceable rules for living. They need more demountable housing in larger towns to facilitate movement away from remote communities and a proper education that dumps traditional culture in favour of useful learning for this century.

Lizzie, they have strong leadership but the wrong kind, the worst kind, all power and no care, compassion or leadership. It is completely at odds with raising a new generation of productive, independent and autonomous people. The longer this situation continues the worse it will become. The only salvation is closing the remote communities and moving the occupants to large metropolitan centres. The culture is the toxic and needs to be diluted with world norms.

Dot
Dot
May 24, 2023 4:51 pm

George Gammon on the pretzel logic of “who owns the Fed”.

Sweetheart deals on Bear Stearns and First Republic.

The board of governors may assert independence from time to time, but it’s a bad system.

The upshot is the Fed and a CBDC is the typical “anti capitalists” worst nightmare. The kind of thing they’ll dream up in Jennifer Nation or any rant of Senators Sanders or Warren.

JP Morgan’s Secret About The Fed And CBDCs (EXPOSED!)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4k2yZ227HBc

Black Ball
Black Ball
May 24, 2023 4:53 pm

A swampy starts behind me “Huh,

The physical manifestation of Ed

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
May 24, 2023 4:56 pm

Lidia Thorpe in Senate estimates row with Indigenous minister Malarndirri McCarthy: ‘You’re a disgrace to your people’

By PAIGE TAYLOR
Indigenous Affairs Correspondent, WA Bureau Chief
@paigeataylor
Updated 4:51PM May 24, 2023, First published at 4:33PM May 24, 2023
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Indigenous Senator Lidia Thorpe has stormed out of senate estimates after a shouting match with Labor MP Malarndirri McCarthy, who told the Greens-turned-independent Senator: “You are a disgrace to your people”.

Senator Thorpe and Senator McCarthy were yelling over each other during an exchange about $14.2m for community safety initiatives in the Northern Territory. After Senator Thorpe had established the money went to police, she shouted at Ms McCarthy: “How dare you”.

Senator Thorpe began questioning a senior public servant from the National Indigenous Australians Agency about whether any of its budget was given to NT Police.
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“Is black money being used for NT Police?” she asked.

The senior public servant replied that NIAA had given money for improvements in safety in communities in the NT.

Senator Thorpe said: “Community safety as in the community being safe from police? Or, which way?”.

The public servant replied: “This money is provided in two areas that have been identified as needing improvements in community safety”.

Senator Thorpe: “How much are you paying the Northern Territory police from black money?”

At this point, another public servant read from budget papers and said: “So Senator in the most recent announcements, $14.2m was provided for high visibility police and law enforcement operations. This includes targetting grog money, increasing the liquor licensing compliance and boosting security guards in public places. There was $10 million for justice reinvestment initiatives in Central Australia”

At his point, Senator Thorpe could be heard interjecting by saying: “Disgusting”

“I am so violated from that answer, I am so disgusted When the Northern Territory police get $14m when our youth services are struggling,” Senator Thorpe said.

She then turned to Senator McCarthy and said: “How can you let this happen Senator McCarthy?”

The assistant minister said the government had given $25m for youth services and, pointing at Senator Thorpe, she said: “How dare you when we have First Nations people working in the police force?”

Senator Thorpe: “Are you protecting the police?”

Senator McCarthy: “No I am telling you we have First Nations police who are doing their best to improve the situation”

Senator Thorpe: “Police are police. Doesn’t matter what colour they are”

The exchange occurred infront of Greens Senator Dorinda Cox, a Noongar woman and former police officer.

Senator McCarthy and Senator Thorpe then began talking over each other at high volume.

Senator McCarthy could be heard to say to Senator Thorpe: You are the disgrace. Rubbishing everyone for your agenda … You are a disgrace to your people.”

Senator McCarthy later withdrew her remarks and Senator Thorpe also withdrew the words “How dare you”.

Then Senator Thorpe left abruptly while talking in a sharp tone. She said in part, an apparent reference to Senator McCarthy: “been in power too long”

The Voice will solve all this, surely?

Dot
Dot
May 24, 2023 4:57 pm

A banger from 1993.

Why should we trust the CIA? They helped the Venezuelan National Guard to import one metric tonne of cocaine into the USA.

The CIA’s Cocaine (1993)
60 Minutes- The CIA’s Cocaine (1993)

Tax payer money? The CIA owes me a nugget of blow.

The idea we should trust the CIA or FBI about anything is completely absurd.

Next, I will post US Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan’s argument to abolish the CIA from 1991 & 1995.

Dot
Dot
May 24, 2023 4:58 pm

https://carnegieendowment.org/2005/12/20/case-for-abolishing-cia-pub-17846

The Case For Abolishing The CIA
John Judis

December 20, 2005
The New Republic Online

Summary:
Combining gross incompetence with the violation of international law, historical problems with CIA have gotten worse under George W. Bush. The intelligence reform act passed last year didn’t address them; and the current director Porter Goss appears oblivious to them. These problems have for years plagued the two main functions of the agency: intelligence gathering and covert action.

But as Moynihan argued in his last book, Secrecy, there is a way in which the CIA’s peculiar structure and function has encouraged errors and magnified their importance. Moynihan described a “culture of secrecy” created by the CIA and other intelligence agencies. This culture produced a distinction between insiders and outsiders; and outsiders, no matter their experience or expertise, couldn’t possibly know with the same degree of certainty as insiders what was going on in a foreign country. For instance, the CIA ignored an extensive poll taken in Cuba just prior to the Bay of Pigs invasion by political scientist Lloyd A. Free that demonstrated widespread support for Fidel Castro. And prior to the Iraq war, the agency insisted that U.N. inspectors who reported an absence of WMD were being duped by Iraqis.

The distinction between insiders and outsiders not only insulated CIA analysts from obvious questions that outsiders without security clearances might ask; it also bestowed a special status upon the findings that were produced. Their very secrecy made them appear more likely to be true. Moynihan recounted how government officials gave special credence to the Gaither Report, which in 1957 wrongly predicted Soviet economic and military superiority, because it was classified.

Decades of failure.

calli
calli
May 24, 2023 4:59 pm

Senator McCarthy and Senator Thorpe then began talking over each other at high volume.

Proto-Voice.

Black Ball
Black Ball
May 24, 2023 4:59 pm

Another one down. Well done AFL. Jay Clark in the Hun:

Hawthorn chief executive Justin Reeves has resigned from his position due to the enormous toll of the club’s racism investigation.

Reeves told the board on Wednesday he would step down and needed a break amid the intense pressure on the club.

In a statement the Hawks confirmed Reeves had resigned due to the “personal toll and the need to focus on his wellbeing”.

It comes only one week after North Melbourne coach Alastair Clarkson, who also stepped down for similar reasons, said Hawthorn should be investigated for its “shameful” practices throughout the racism saga spanning back to the bombshell allegations which dropped in September last year.

Reeves spent five years at Hawthorn and led the club through a turbulent period including the end of Clarkson’s reign as coach and Jeff Kennett’s second stint as president.

But it was the weight of the club’s racism investigation which has brought an intense spotlight on the club, including decisions the Hawks made to commence the probe, and its alleged treatment of indigenous and First Nations’ players between 2008-2016.

Reeves is undecided on his next move but confirmed to the club he will take some time away to deal with the stress and scrutiny of the past eight months.

Chief commercial officer Ash Klein will take over as acting CEO as the club, led by president Andy Gowers, begins the search for a new chief executive officer.

Reeves said it was the right time for change at Hawthorn as he looked to prioritise his mental health and spend more time with family.

There’s more in the article but I couldn’t really be bothered with it due to blood pressure rising. Just real arseholery on display by AFL and the pricks running the racism complaint.

Dot
Dot
May 24, 2023 5:00 pm

Ah.

This is the You Tube clip on CIA cocaine.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IF-IYdsFGrw

bespoke
bespoke
May 24, 2023 5:00 pm

H B Bearsays:
May 24, 2023 at 3:29 pm
Some of these claims of Aboriginality would make Elizabeth Warren blush.

My granddaughter is only indigenous by her grandfather. If I had my way it would not be centre to who she is. But since the department has deemed her as ‘identifying’ as indigenous we have to go along with it to get access and eventually kinship care.
My aunty told me how her coloured freinds in Cape Town felt unwelcome in eather culture. I fear with the growing resentment my granddaughter ending up like that. Unless we get her in time.

Robert Sewell
May 24, 2023 5:01 pm

Farmer Gez:

I hope the recently martyred St. Stan keeps performing the miracle of turning everything into whine.

Stealing that.
No atribution, no nuthin…
Straight to my FB page with a total readership of 2.

Dot
Dot
May 24, 2023 5:03 pm

eather culture

Bad stuff, highly flammable and even explosive, heavier than air (which makes it more hazardous) and it will give you long term brain damage like heavy alcoholism.

Black Ball
Black Ball
May 24, 2023 5:04 pm

The Source in the Hun:

Big names are expected to speak at the “Post Pandemic China-Australia Economic Forum” hosted by the China Chamber of Commerce at the Park Hyatt on June 5 and 6.

The event is co “supported” by the Australia China Business Council and the China Institute for Innovation and Development Strategy, whose vice chairman Feng Wei will speak at the opening ceremony.

It might be noted, at least according to author and researcher Alex Joske, that the institute is staffed by veterans of China’s Ministry of State Security.

The ubiquitous Chinese ambassador Xiao Qian will speak at the opening.

Another speaker is thought to be Premier Dan Andrews, who recently went to China sans media for a series of unreported meetings, where he did not raise the case of Victorian journalist Cheng Lei, imprisoned in China for the past two-and-a-half years.

Do we assume that Andrews will not provide “a running commentary” on the upcoming event, given his office has ignored media requests to confirm or deny Andrews’ appearance at the forum?

So we have Albo and Marles getting submarines in the next century to protect against Chinese aggression, yet Andrews is giving fellatio to the same mob. What gives?

Dot
Dot
May 24, 2023 5:04 pm

eather culture

Considers time space as an ordered crystal. Clinging to the Mach Principle dearly.

Crossie
Crossie
May 24, 2023 5:04 pm

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha says:
May 24, 2023 at 4:47 pm
Sadly, the damage done in encouraging “return to country” & traditional culture/language as basis of education of Aboriginal kids is now so mainstream that I doubt if it can be overturned.
The saddest were the cases in the Kimberleys, where children who had been “away to school” returned to their Third World sh!tholes, the cycle of abuse began again, and they took their own lives as a result.

No returns. Once the children escape they must never be returned to their hell holes. But the government are so scared of the stolen generations tag when they could turn it all around by calling them the rescued generations.

Despair that anything will be done simply because the rescued, city aboriginals need the hell holes to hold over our heads to extort power and money. I consider them the most culpable for the conditions in NT and remote communities in other states. I am horrified at how little real fellow feeling they have for those whom they claim to be of their own race.

Robert Sewell
May 24, 2023 5:10 pm

rosie:
A roast chicken sandwich can be improved with a ring of pineapple.

bespoke
bespoke
May 24, 2023 5:17 pm

either

Cheers dot.

Anchor What
Anchor What
May 24, 2023 5:18 pm

Media (including Sharri) continue to refer to Rolf Harris in a derogatory fashion (re some gropes etc of young or junior women), despite his record of achievements as a performer and artist.
The same people mostly have nothing bad to say about the growing trend for young or junior girls and boys to be encouraged to ruin their lives by “transitioning” to the gender of their choice before they reach an age where a more sober assessment could take place.

JC
JC
May 24, 2023 5:25 pm

duncanm says:
May 24, 2023 at 12:42 pm

You need a fishing license payable annually or they fine you.

not if you’re under 18

Duncan, you’re 100% right.

What you can do

buy a fishing licence if you’re between 18 to 70 years
get a free fisher card if you’re under 18 years or 70 years and over.

You don’t need a fishing licence if you’re

under 18 years or over 70 years
a person identifying as Aboriginal or Torres Strait Islander
a Victorian or interstate equivalent Seniors Card holder
a Veterans’ Affairs Pensioner or TPI-coded Repatriation Health Card holder
a Commonwealth Pensioner Concession Card holder, coded either DSP, DSP Blind, AGE, AGE Blind or CAR.

I go fishing quite a bit, but refuse to buy a license. I’m not identifying as a Torres Strait Islander if I’m ever asked.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
May 24, 2023 5:30 pm

But the government are so scared of the stolen generations tag when they could turn it all around by calling them the rescued generations.

“Bringing Them Home” investigation was a farce and a sham. The Aboriginal Legal Service demanded the right to vet the list of witnesses, and anyone who didn’t sing from the approved sheet – station managers or mounted police with stories of mixed race children left behind to die, or five year old girls given in marriage to the old men- didn’t get to give evidence.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
May 24, 2023 5:32 pm

Mad Cat Lady
28 minutes ago
Unpleasant, undignified, illogical, ideological and annoying, Lidia Thorpe is the best advocate for the NO case.

Pattmclit
Pattmclit
May 24, 2023 5:32 pm

Boo ferdiken hoo!
CBA people employed, not necessarily working have been told to get their arses into the office, BUT only half the time.

I bet a thousand pound to a green goose turd that for many who post here that would mean like I used to be, at least 35 hrs per week.
OT
Our family accountant says if he hires people straight from school they are almost illiterate, won’t entertain even a couple of hours overtime. He’s fearful for the future.
Pat

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
May 24, 2023 5:32 pm

Media (including Sharri) continue to refer to Rolf Harris in a derogatory fashion

I do wish I could claim this, but I can’t. From the interwebs:

‘I heard Rolf Harris requested his ashes be put into an Etch-A-Sketch, so children could play with his knob forever.’

JC
JC
May 24, 2023 5:33 pm

ABC boss David Anderson is “worried” about staff at the public broadcaster ahead of this year’s Indigenous voice referendum as he again apologised for not saying sorry to Q+A host Stan Grant sooner.

Does anyone understand why the ABC CEO is apologizing to Tan Grant as I don’t get it. Did Anderson make racist remarks directed at Tan?

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
May 24, 2023 5:34 pm

Dover at 12.27:

a few weeks back re Doomlord, he made an appearance at a footy match recently on the telly

Do you mean to say they showed an image of…..

A bald-headed flog?

H B Bear
H B Bear
May 24, 2023 5:35 pm

Lots of Alice in Wonderland thinking among the self described ALPBC management. A textbook example of a staff captured organisation.

duncanm
duncanm
May 24, 2023 5:37 pm

But Yates?

Well – she knows she’s potentially in the shit, too. Why all the attention to knickerless and not any of the other alleged victims of rape being processed through the courts?

In other more amusing news, Drumgold has kicked himself in the teeth again, then put the boot in while he lay on the ground moaning. Quite an act of flexibility.

Accusing Moller of having a ‘biased, stereotyped attitude towards the behaviour of complainants’ with regards to rape, Moller has disclosed that he was sexually assaulted at a young age.

duncanm
duncanm
May 24, 2023 5:38 pm

ABC boss David Anderson is “worried” about staff at the public broadcaster

that’s because they’re a bunch of weak-kneed children.

You’d be worried, too, if you were in charge of a room full of downs kids.

cohenite
May 24, 2023 5:43 pm

But the government are so scared of the stolen generations tag when they could turn it all around by calling them the rescued generations.

“Bringing Them Home” investigation was a farce and a sham. The Aboriginal Legal Service demanded the right to vet the list of witnesses, and anyone who didn’t sing from the approved sheet – station managers or mounted police with stories of mixed race children left behind to die, or five year old girls given in marriage to the old men- didn’t get to give evidence.

Of the dozens of stolen generation cases which came before the courts, only one has succeeded: bruce Trevorrow; and he succeeded because he proved there was no stolen generation. Like everything else to do with 3rd nations and every other left cause, it is a pack of BS and lies.

H B Bear
H B Bear
May 24, 2023 5:47 pm

that’s because they’re a bunch of weak-kneed children.

Who wouldn’t be after those IPA death threats?

Jorge
Jorge
May 24, 2023 5:49 pm

What has happened to Johnny Rotten ?

H B Bear
H B Bear
May 24, 2023 5:52 pm

Like Humpy, Gillard knew the value of a carefully curated inquiry.

JC
JC
May 24, 2023 5:53 pm

Jorge says:
May 24, 2023 at 5:49 pm

What has happened to Johnny Rotten ?

He’s either been contracted by “Socrates” to do some economic research or he may have violated his parole and is back in the freezer.

Miltonf
Miltonf
May 24, 2023 5:59 pm

Anderson is just peddling the usual cry bully stuff- abuse and insult regular citizens and then squeal when same citizens object. Words can’t express how much I despise that vile organization.

MatrixTransform
May 24, 2023 6:01 pm

and therefore have to work out a way of tricking him/her into publishing it

‘community standards’ is double-speak
what we have is a bunch of zealots trying as best they can to avoid a personal stint in cultural siberia

there aren’t standard setters censoring you and a comment,
they dont really give a flying proverbial what you have to say
they…as a group…are not policing you, they’re policing each other

you gotta let the sub-editor, or fact-checker, or pre-crime-officer have a way out

maybe a simile with a finely honed edge will help sever a Gordian knot?

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
May 24, 2023 6:05 pm

What has happened to Johnny Rotten ?

He took Martin Armstrong’s financial advice, and consequently can’t afford the internet.

Tom
Tom
May 24, 2023 6:07 pm

Hawthorn chief executive Justin Reeves has resigned from his position due to the enormous toll of the club’s racism investigation.

A useful idiot who allowed the Hawthorn Football Club to be used by radical political activists to destroy the reputations of two respected football coaches, who did nothing wrong and are innocent of the ludicrous allegations against them.

Meanwhile, the scum responsible for the witchhunt are being protected by the AFL from the consequences of their criminal misbehavior and will never be held accountable for their actions.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
May 24, 2023 6:07 pm

Watching the Nikita Tszyu / Ben Bommber undercard.

Some good stuff.

Robert Sewell
May 24, 2023 6:10 pm

Crossie:

Despair that anything will be done simply because the rescued, city aboriginals need the hell holes to hold over our heads to extort power and money. I consider them the most culpable for the conditions in NT and remote communities in other states. I am horrified at how little real fellow feeling they have for those whom they claim to be of their own race.

Remember the Bakhtiyari brothers?
Dropped like a used kleenex at a bikie gang bang.

132andBush
132andBush
May 24, 2023 6:10 pm

A useful idiot who allowed the Hawthorn Football Club to be used by radical political activists

Radical political activists sums up what the AFL has become quite nicely.

Shut up and bounce the ball!!

duncanm
duncanm
May 24, 2023 6:13 pm

bespokesays:
May 24, 2023 at 5:41 pm
Twitter Files Extra: The Australian government’s censorship requests

At least that has unmasked our national censorship department.

The Social Cohesion Division of the Department of Home Affairs.
https://www.homeaffairs.gov.au/about-us/our-portfolios/social-cohesion

Community engagement is about strengthening the bonds between us. It involves open dialogue, sharing information, building trust and showing respect.

… well, maybe not the sharing information part.

132andBush
132andBush
May 24, 2023 6:13 pm

More from Matt Goodwin

A good interview.

Black Ball
Black Ball
May 24, 2023 6:19 pm

As evidenced by the responses here, most recently Tom and Bushie, the ‘No’ campaign will win with a leg in the air.
People in my neck of the woods are heartily sick of the shit being forced down their throats in regards to Teh Voice. As has also been noted here, it is inner city whites and academics who see the Voice as their chance at tenure.
The way this referendum is defeated is to mobilise the rural areas whose interest is scant at best. I endeavour to put some flyers up around the town to at least put this issue at the front of mind when push comes to shove.

Roger
Roger
May 24, 2023 6:19 pm

The Social Cohesion Division of the Department of Home Affairs.

Shouldn’t social cohesion be a concern before we grant them a PR visa?

calli
calli
May 24, 2023 6:20 pm

Unedifying vision of Albanese licking Modi’s fingers over targeting of Hindu temples here.

Perhaps Albo should have acquainted himself, pre-prostration, about this.

Good boy. Good dog.

Roger
Roger
May 24, 2023 6:23 pm

Speaking of respecting Australian values…

Two headlines from today’s press juxtaposed:

1. Albanese announces migration deal with India

2. Recent migrant wage theft is a feature not a bug

Up the workers, eh Albo?

Roger
Roger
May 24, 2023 6:25 pm

Good boy. Good dog.

Woof, woof!

P
P
May 24, 2023 6:27 pm

Calvary Health Care at ‘impasse’ with government as protesters lament ‘diabolical’ hospital takeover

There’s also been an outcry from religious communities, with the Australian Christian Lobby protesting outside the Legislative Assembly on Wednesday, urging the ACT Government to reconsider the acquisition.

CEO Wendy Francis labelled the takeover as a “diabolical act” and urged Calvary to bring an injunction against the legislation the government introduced to make this possible.

“It’s a Soviet-style takeover. They’ve just come in and not had any consultation with the hospital, no consultation with the stakeholders, and the day after the day they announced the takeover, they introduced legislation into the Parliament to allow them to do this,” she said.

calli
calli
May 24, 2023 6:28 pm

And…while I’m feeling a tad critical of our political masters…

Vivid starts in Sydney this weekend. Shame our teeny weeny minded government couldn’t afford a magic lantern slide for the Coronation. You know…the sort projected onto the Opera House sails.

Very selective in those once-in-a-generation events is Our Labor Pardy and their minions.

calli
calli
May 24, 2023 6:28 pm

No event is to big for them to be small about.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
May 24, 2023 6:28 pm

I endeavour to put some flyers up around the town to at least put this issue at the front of mind when push comes to shove.

Somebody is already putting fake information leaflets through letterboxes in Albany, based on the “Freedom of Information release from the National Aborigines Advisory Council.”

calli
calli
May 24, 2023 6:29 pm

Bother.

too

Miltonf
Miltonf
May 24, 2023 6:29 pm

Stealing from productive people is a canbra specialty. Just about all they are good at.

Anchor What
Anchor What
May 24, 2023 6:30 pm

Up the workers, eh Albo?
Right up them.
And everyone else not on the ALP Studio 54 list.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
May 24, 2023 6:35 pm

Breaking, from the Daily Mail.

Senior constable who Tasered 95-year-old grandmother set to face three charges as cops finish investigation

Black Ball
Black Ball
May 24, 2023 6:36 pm

Via Ace Of Spades
Gawd almighty what arseholes

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
May 24, 2023 6:37 pm

A roast chicken sandwich is only improved by a good layer of home made stuffing, chutney and red onion.
Pineapple is a just weird.

Black Ball
Black Ball
May 24, 2023 6:39 pm

Somebody is already putting fake information leaflets through letterboxes in Albany, based on the “Freedom of Information release from the National Aborigines Advisory Council.”

Are you able to get a copy Zulu?
I intend to use statements from our ‘elite’ that suggest Teh Voice isn’t racist and is all hugs, rainbows and unicorns.

Roger
Roger
May 24, 2023 6:40 pm

“It’s a Soviet-style takeover. They’ve just come in and not had any consultation with the hospital, no consultation with the stakeholders, and the day after the day they announced the takeover, they introduced legislation into the Parliament to allow them to do this,” she said.

Memo to the L/NP should they ever grow a pair & find themselves with a parliamentary majority in the future: This is how you deal with the ABC.

Indolent
Indolent
May 24, 2023 6:41 pm

I went to the doctor this morning to have some stitches out and people were still trotting in for more jabs, despite all that’s been discovered about the risks.

UK stopping covid primary vaccinations

Robert Sewell
May 24, 2023 6:41 pm

https://www.theepochtimes.com/perth-school-in-lockdown-after-teen-allegedly-fires-gun_5287479.html
This has all the stench of yet another McGowan/Police setup. I don’t know why he has such a dislike of gun ownership but he’s been after them for quite a while now.

Delta A
Delta A
May 24, 2023 6:41 pm

Good boy. Good dog.

That’s the extent of conversation in this large household since new puppy arrived last weekend. A border/kelpie, he has the piercing, intelligent gaze of his breed, with a good dose of, “Nah, I’ll do what I like.”

#1 doggo, a prissy toy poodle, was quite put out by the arrival of the newbee, especially when Pup stole his precious squeaky green cactus. For a while there, it was on like Donkey Kong, as they say in the classics. But soon the old boy realised that the new boy was good for fun ruff-n-tumble and they’ve been at it ever since, tails wagging, belying the vicious growls and snicker snack.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
May 24, 2023 6:42 pm

[Senior Constable Kristian] White was charged on Wednesday evening with recklessly causing grievous bodily harm, assault occasioning actual bodily harm and common assault.

Three charges to start.

They will be ‘placeholders’, if you will, prior to more (and bigger) charges landing in his breakfast when the old lady dies.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
May 24, 2023 6:42 pm

And:

Told youse.

Indolent
Indolent
May 24, 2023 6:43 pm
Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
May 24, 2023 6:44 pm

And:

There is zero chance that investigation is ‘finished’.

Black Ball
Black Ball
May 24, 2023 6:45 pm

Told youse.

Ed Case level of self flattery. See yourself out.
(Runs)

rosie
rosie
May 24, 2023 6:48 pm

Wow, it really seems like Higgins wanted the investigation reopened only to add weight to her media ambitions.
As for police investigating, the starting point is a detailed interview/statement from the accuser.
What would you expect them to investigate without a proper sworn statement?
I know #metoo think it should go accusation, guilty, arrest,sentence, prison.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
May 24, 2023 6:52 pm

I intend to use statements from our ‘elite’ that suggest Teh Voice isn’t racist and is all hugs, rainbows and unicorns.

The Australian:

ASIO warns the Indigenous voice to parliament campaign may trigger ’spontaneous violence’ ahead of the referendum

Indigenous leader Thomas Mayo, a member of the government’s referendum working group, said Opposition Leader Peter Dutton’s claim the voice would insert race into the Constitution was “unhelpful” and had been detrimental to the tone of the debate. He remained optimistic the referendum would succeed, despite polling showing support for the voice had fallen.

“I have optimism because it is a simple proposition and it’s a modest proposition,” Mr Mayo told Sky News. “It’s not about inserting race into the Constitution. It’s about an Indigenous people that have a special place in this country. I think most Australians would agree with that now.

“It’s a beautiful culture that we have and that we’re generously offering this year to all Australians. I think that truth alone is enough to get this through. I think the consistency of our message that this is an invitation is going to ultimately carry us through.”

H B Bear
H B Bear
May 24, 2023 6:53 pm

Unedifying vision of Albanese licking Modi’s fingers over targeting of Hindu temples here.

Yep, not a good look. The almost inevitable outcome of the Population Ponzi. See also: Tony Burqa at a Western Sydney mosque

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
May 24, 2023 6:54 pm

Would you like to be a civil engineer but also want to be a woke intersectionalist?
There’s no need to choose, you can be both! Click to find out how.
https://www.engineersaustralia.org.au/event/2023/04/leading-way-more-gender-inclusive-transport-47921
Turns out that boys are disposable. You’ve learned something from the course already.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
May 24, 2023 6:57 pm

Hawthorn should serve as a warning for a post Voice Australia.
Any government, agency or politician who doesn’t genuflect to the timeless spiritual wisdom of the First Nation conclave should expect naming and shaming. Only a racist would refuse their benevolent guidance.
It’s from the heart you know.

Miltonf
Miltonf
May 24, 2023 6:59 pm

I gave up on Engineers Australia in about 2011.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
May 24, 2023 7:01 pm

Morrison actually made a fair point in his comments about the Voice:

Mr Morrison – an avid rugby league fan – also criticised sporting bodies and companies for interfering in the process of constitutional change.

“Such groups can represent whatever views they like, it’s a free country,” he said.

“However, while keenly interested in the NRL’s opinion on hip-drop tackles and the six-again rule, I respectfully won’t be deferring to the NRL for constitutional advice to guide my decision.”

rosie
rosie
May 24, 2023 7:02 pm

If you are over 60 you qualify for a senior’s card of some sort even if you are still working full time.
Worth it just for the free fisher’s card.
here

Roger
Roger
May 24, 2023 7:05 pm

“It’s not about inserting race into the Constitution. It’s about an Indigenous people that have a special place in this country. I think most Australians would agree with that now.”

Indeed; and you’ll not object if I and my offspring identify as indigenous and reap the benefits government attaches thereto these days. Jolly good!

Mark from Melbourne
Mark from Melbourne
May 24, 2023 7:05 pm

Marcus Stewart’s claim to be a proud “Nira illim bulluk man of the Taungurung Nation” is based on an Aboriginal great – great grandfather.

I thought I’d edumacate myself, so I searched for the bolded phrase. Interestingly, the first umpteen hits are all about our friend Marcus. In fact, they all seem to be that (disclaimer… only a couple of pages searched).

One thing that did come up (though not with the exact phrase) was this, from the Taungurung Land and Water Council web site (surely, one might think, authoritative?) :

Taungurung People identify ourselves by descent from identified Taungurung ancestors. Some of us also identify with one of the fifteen clans that make up Taungurung, namely Benbendore-balluk, Buthera-balluk, Gunung-Yellam, Leuk-willam, Moomoomgoonbeet, Nattarak-balluk, Ngurai-illam-balluk, Nira-balluk, Tenbringnellams, Walledriggers, Waring-illam-balluk, Warrinillum, Yaran-illam, Yirun-ilam-balluk, and Yowung-illam-balluk.

It is interesting how proud our Marcus is of his “Nira illim bulluk”-icity in light of the fact that his “nation” doesn’t appear to have heard of said -icity.

So I am left to ponder, but none the better educmacated.

rosie
rosie
May 24, 2023 7:06 pm

Did SC White having swaggered around in the cool pants for twelve years find himself unable to countenance disobedience from an old w0man?

calli
calli
May 24, 2023 7:08 pm

It’s not about inserting race into the Constitution. It’s about an Indigenous people that have a special place in this country.

Then it’s about inserting race into the Constitution.

What a silly man to admit it.

cohenite
May 24, 2023 7:09 pm

Via Ace Of Spades
Gawd almighty what arseholes

Fox had a good defence to dominion; their capitulation doesn’t make sense. Plus firing Tucker, their main money spinner is nuts. Still, my mate used to go out with the wife of one of the boys. Lotta wokeness floating around like farts beneath the sheets.

bons
bons
May 24, 2023 7:09 pm

Grannies being barstewards.
The kids three beautiful boys are, like all modern kids, overstimulated and over controlled and expected to achieve modern adult outcomes.
They need to be able to disappear over the back fence with a cricket bat but most of all they need a dog.
Dogs do not fit comfortably in the dual profesional parent structured paradigm. Our suggestions that a dog is called for are robustly rejected.
The little guys are coming to stay for a couple of weeks. We have a puppy on approval for their stay.
It can be so satisfying to be interfering grandparents.

Cassie of Sydney
May 24, 2023 7:10 pm

““Such groups can represent whatever views they like, it’s a free country,” he said.”

Morrison should shut the f*ck up.

Roger
Roger
May 24, 2023 7:11 pm

If you are over 60 you qualify for a senior’s card of some sort even if you are still working full time. Worth it just for the free fisher’s card.

That looks to be rather generous in its public benefits compared with QLD’s, where if you’re a self funded retiree there’s basically nothing on offer.

I wonder how long they’ll be able to afford it?

Roger
Roger
May 24, 2023 7:12 pm

Morrison should shut the f*ck up.

Seconded.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
May 24, 2023 7:14 pm

It is interesting how proud our Marcus is of his “Nira illim bulluk”-icity in light of the fact that his “nation” doesn’t appear to have heard of said -icity.

“Dark Emu Exposed”

An Aussie’s Conundrum

As we learn more about Marcus Stewart’s ancestry, many of us are asking some simple questions.

With such a major, and aristocratic, Scottish ancestry, why is Marcus Stewart selectively presenting himself to the rest of us as an Aboriginal man only?

Why are we being asked to ‘negotiate a treaty’ with Marcus Stewart, who claims he is an Aboriginal, Nira illim bulluk man of the Taungurung Nation?

To our mind, he looks, speaks and lives just like the rest of us – he still carries the name of his ancestral Scottish clan, so why should he have any special legal, constitutional or moral rights over the rest of us?

Now, we are not saying he has no Aboriginal ancestry, and we are not denying him his right to identify anyway that he wishes. That is his perfect right – but that doesn’t mean the rest of us have to believe it too. When many of us look at him we see him as one of our ‘mob’ – an Aussie with a large part of Scottish ancestry – [I’m 28% Scottish by DNA myself – Marcus and I come from the same ‘mob.’ – Editor].

And so we think he might be ’pulling-our-leg’ a bit with this ‘con-job’ of Treaty and its ultimate goal of ‘co-sovereignty’ for a few select and lucky Australians who claim that they are Aboriginal.

We have a chuckle to ourselves when Marcus tells us, with a straight face, that he and,

‘First Nations people have a unique connection to this country and our care and knowledge of it run deep. The voice [referendum] is about having a taste of that inserted into the heart of Australia’s democratic system. By voting Yes you will lose absolutely nothing, but everyone stands to gain so much.

We all came to this place called home from different paths, whether we were born here or drawn here. This is where we find ourselves together now …

Look at me. Look at my skin. Every day, whether it’s heckling on social media or barbs from some privileged right-wing media commentator, I have people saying to me “you’re not Aboriginal, you’re white”. They can’t seem to get their head around the notion that some Aboriginal people have fair skin, but this is what the impact of colonisation looks like.

I am the embodiment of a history that complicates our relationship with the place we call home. For whatever reason, I find myself here, today, calling Australia home …’

– Commentary piece in The Australian 14 March 2023

Black Ball
Black Ball
May 24, 2023 7:16 pm

Zulu thank you sir

Cassie of Sydney
May 24, 2023 7:17 pm

So another Victorian council is going to abolish Australia Day, this time it’s Geelong. A council no doubt dominated by the left, yet one wonders just what the residents of Geelong think.

If the right want to change the zeitgeist, if they to claw back power and if they want to try and change things, then they need to do what the Greens did, and start with local councils. It’s the only way.

C.L.
C.L.
May 24, 2023 7:17 pm

Matt Walsh has been banned from appearing on Fox News.

Here he is truth-schooling a trans “woman”:

https://twitter.com/DrLoupis/status/1660220657496408068

Black Ball
Black Ball
May 24, 2023 7:18 pm

And thank you Faustus MD

calli
calli
May 24, 2023 7:20 pm

It can be so satisfying to be interfering grandparents.

Quite so.

Always fly just below the radar, bons. Live dangerously, but not too much.

Cassie of Sydney
May 24, 2023 7:20 pm

I don’t recall Morrison saying one word about “freedom” during his tenure as PM. Instead, under his watch, this country endured catastrophic lockdowns and vaccine mandates, men and women were routinely bashed, beaten and bludgeoned by police, a pregnant woman was cuffed in her own home by police, and Morrison said nothing about our freedom or our civil liberties. Hypocrite.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
May 24, 2023 7:22 pm

Zulu thank you sir

My pleasure.

rosie
rosie
May 24, 2023 7:23 pm
Miltonf
Miltonf
May 24, 2023 7:24 pm

I think a good start in bringing councils to heal would be to stop paying aldermen or whatever they’re called now. It used to be unpaid. If we had decent State governments, councils like Geelong would be sacked. Councils- a magnet for the untalented and self important. Also, it’s very important to know who not to vote for in council elections.

flyingduk
flyingduk
May 24, 2023 7:24 pm

Three charges to start.

They will be ‘placeholders’, if you will, prior to more (and bigger) charges landing in his breakfast when the old lady dies.

How does that ‘burger with the lot’ taste now then ?

Mark from Melbourne
Mark from Melbourne
May 24, 2023 7:26 pm

Ezekiel Narndu, 19, described as future leader of community during sentencing for Wadeye riots manslaughter

Sadly reminiscent of Liam Jurrah, who could have been anything as a footballer, but threw it all off and went “home”. To end up in jail for assault.

Miltonf
Miltonf
May 24, 2023 7:27 pm

Someone once said of Ku-ring-gai council- run by the staff, for the staff.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
May 24, 2023 7:27 pm

marcus the professional on twitter

Seems he’s married to a Labor Senator…all in the family…

calli
calli
May 24, 2023 7:29 pm

Dover, that is unspeakable. All I can say is

Love is Love

Especially the love they mock.

rosie
rosie
May 24, 2023 7:29 pm
Mark from Melbourne
Mark from Melbourne
May 24, 2023 7:30 pm

JC Says :
I go fishing quite a bit

Please ban JC for demonstrably lying on this august forum.

Unless, of course, by “fishing” he means “I have an interest in a trawling operation”.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
May 24, 2023 7:30 pm

The Hitler Channel is showing a doco on Mossad.

Hopefully they show the bit about them causing the 2004 tsunami.

bons
bons
May 24, 2023 7:31 pm

Morrisson.
The favoured cry of we the offended “when they write the book on this guy ………” Has no meaning in regard to Morrisson. There is nothing there.
HTF did a clown like Turnbull identify a complete cypher like Morrison and put him in power.
The Turd is obviously a lot smarter than we care to admit.

Tom
Tom
May 24, 2023 7:37 pm

I don’t recall Morrison saying one word about “freedom” during his tenure as PM.

Never forget that Scott Morrison was Malcom Turnbull’s nominated successor of the loony left of the SFLs, which caused his catastrophic defeat.

Morrison was Turnbull’s useful idiot who betrayed the SFL base. Remember that Turnbull sought membership of the SFLs only after he had been rejected for membership of the ALP.

Cassie of Sydney
May 24, 2023 7:37 pm

“dover0beachsays:
May 24, 2023 at 7:11 pm”

Any society, any civilization, any culture, that condones and celebrates such obscenity and such indecency deserves to die, and die it will.

cohenite
May 24, 2023 7:38 pm

C.L.says:
May 24, 2023 at 7:17 pm
Matt Walsh has been banned from appearing on Fox News.

The fox subscription is looking very shaky.

Perplexed of Brisbane
Perplexed of Brisbane
May 24, 2023 7:41 pm

I have questions (possibly rhetorical).

This rally for Modi was held in Australia not India right? It looked like the whole crowd was Indian. Did they fly in on holidays especially for it or would they be residents / citizens of this great land? I’m concerned about their loyalty to us if citizens.

Perhaps they are residents who are here to live a safe and prosperous life before retiring back to India one day (similar to other migrants who make use of our pensions back home)?

On another tangent, with the Feds sucking up to India and the states sucking up to China are they hoping that those two may settle any military disputes here, thus preserving their own lands? Maralinga would make a great battleground for them I think.

I don’t think there is any loyalty to Australia from either other than to the extent they can get something from us. But then so is the US at present.

Hence my screen name.

C.L.
C.L.
May 24, 2023 7:44 pm

Beautiful, perfect twin babies and a mother’s courage.

Miltonf
Miltonf
May 24, 2023 7:46 pm

As far as I am concerned, the whole Trumble-Morrison debacle was thanks to Howard. It’s not just the collapse of the lieboral pardy- it’s the serious damage done to Australia by the absence of half decent government for many, many years.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
May 24, 2023 7:54 pm

Taungurung Land and Waters Council

Why does the phrase “White as Snow White’s bum” spring to mind?

Razey
Razey
May 24, 2023 7:55 pm

Hopefully the scab labour Indian hordes will give me $2 mill cash for my dump of a house in Sicktoria. Then I’m gone!

Cassie of Sydney
May 24, 2023 7:57 pm

“was thanks to Howard”

Back in 2004, Howard helped Turdbull stab Peter King. And then in 2010 he implored Turdbull not to resign. Both catastrophic mistakes.

I’m heartened to hear that King and his supporters have taken back control of the Wentworth branch of the Liberal Party, and King has shafted the execrable Sally Betts, who was one of the Turd’s chief enablers.

Good news.

shatterzzz
May 24, 2023 7:58 pm

Perhaps they are residents who are here to live a safe and prosperous life before retiring back to India one day (similar to other migrants who make use of our pensions back home)?

It wasn’t a freebie either .. $20 entrance .. imagine paying to go to a political rally .. wonder if they charge to go to these events in India? ..

Bear Necessities
Bear Necessities
May 24, 2023 8:02 pm

What has happened to Johnny Rotten?

Hey hey, my my
Rock and roll can never die
There’s more to the picture
Than meets the eye.
Hey hey, my my.
… Out of the blue and into the black
You pay for this, but they give you that
And once you’re gone, you can’t come back
When you’re out of the blue and into the black.
… The king is gone but he’s not forgotten
Is this the tale of Johnny rotten?
It’s better to burn out than fade away
The king is gone but he’s not forgotten.
… Hey hey, my my
Rock and roll can never die
There’s more to the picture
Than meets the eye.
Hey hey, my my.

local oaf
May 24, 2023 8:02 pm

Why does the phrase “White as Snow White’s bum” spring to mind?

White as a polar bear’s ghost!

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
May 24, 2023 8:03 pm

Dr F at 2:34.
So the Big Mole is irretrievably bogged?

Razey
Razey
May 24, 2023 8:05 pm

Alobesleazy unleashing unlimited hordes of Indians will finish off the old anglo culture. Some remnants might exist in small rural towns. Might be time to get a place there.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
May 24, 2023 8:11 pm

Some remnants might exist in small rural towns. Might be time to get a place there.

I’ll be up, on the high ground, outside said small rural town, where I live. The drawbridge will be pulled up, and, as long as the local bottleshop doesn’t run out of decent single malt, we should be all right.

bespoke
bespoke
May 24, 2023 8:14 pm

as long as the local bottleshop doesn’t run out of decent single malt, we should be all right.

A week or two?

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
May 24, 2023 8:15 pm

I agree; Morrison has all the moral suasion of a fart in a phone box.

Nonetheless, I also “…respectfully won’t be deferring to the NRL for constitutional advice to guide my decision.

Similarly KC’s and academics telling me that the wording is “legally sound” and an improving addition to the Constitution.

Happy for you to disagree with me.

Cassie of Sydney
May 24, 2023 8:26 pm

“Happy for you to disagree with me.”

I don’t, and I actually agree with Morrison’s point. It’s just that given his recent history, he should shut up.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
May 24, 2023 8:26 pm

ASIO warns the Indigenous voice to parliament campaign may trigger ’spontaneous violence’ ahead of the referendum

The only people who exhibit spontaneous violence are the clinically insane, and even then you could argue it is against a perceived threat (which only they can see). Everybody else who practises violence has identified a new gap between how they perceive the world to be and how they desire the world to be, their desire isn’t budging, and they can’t see any other option working. It is not spontaneous in the slightest because it has a cause, it does not appear out of nothing. It’s probably a mistaken perception and almost certainly an unwise course of action, but to call it spontaneous is at least a misnomer. The very fact that ASIO can predict this shows it has a cause and a buildup – not spontaneous. Of course one hopes that the legislature is still in charge of the public service, but the Government should take this message from ASIO as a hint that the Yes campaign must employ more Realpolitik, more listening to the opposing argument, less sneaking around the referendum with State-level contrivances, and less brinksmanship on the consequences of a No result.

I’d also suggest that the No campaign (if it ever raises its head above water) should talk about alternative resolutions to these (apparent) intercultural rifts, to be applied in the case of a No result, so that No isn’t simply No, rather a “No, but…”.

Indigenous leader Thomas Mayo … said Opposition Leader Peter Dutton’s claim the voice would insert race into the Constitution

It’s not Peter Dutton’s claim, it’s your own proposal. It’s not called the “People of Unspecified Origin Voice To Parliament” is it? Just stop lying about the InVoice, it can’t be that difficult.

Peter Dutton’s claim the voice would insert race into the Constitution was “unhelpful” and had been detrimental to the tone of the debate.

That’s the woke mind virus at work, deploying a double standard of interpretation. Every insulting tone and offensive statement that they make will be excused by themselves as simply unarguable relevant literal truth, and any substantive statement their opponents make about the issue will be dismissed as merely an unhelpful tone.

the consistency of our message that this is an invitation

I know I always end up going anywhere that I invite myself to. That’s how invitations work, isn’t it? Isn’t it?

The only two reasons I can imagine anybody would get violent about this referendum is if they either 1) did not want to decide the issue democratically, or 2) believed No are in the majority and that the referendum will be rigged or bypassed.
All sides should try to talk down or rein-in their own extreme members. All sides should work to convince us that this decision process is not railroaded and that their arguments would result in the best outcome for most people (obviously).

Miltonf
Miltonf
May 24, 2023 8:26 pm

I knew Trumble was a creep back when he was doing spycatcher and was working for Packer. Howard didn’t think so apparently.

bespoke
bespoke
May 24, 2023 8:28 pm
Frank
Frank
May 24, 2023 8:30 pm

Everything must be consigned to forgettery (thanks to Therese Rudd for the word).

No. For example from http://www.collinsdictionary.com:

Word origin
[1860–65, Amer.; forget + -ery]
This word is first recorded in the period 1860–65. Other words that entered English at around the same time include: big brother, blind spot, pop-up, prep, trade name

It is a wrong to credit the Rudds with that one.

Razey
Razey
May 24, 2023 8:32 pm

Where will the anlgo strongholds be?

duncanm
duncanm
May 24, 2023 8:34 pm

Rogersays:
May 24, 2023 at 6:19 pm
The Social Cohesion Division of the Department of Home Affairs.

Shouldn’t social cohesion be a concern before we grant them a PR visa?

Repeat after me, Roger, the threat is right wing extremists, white ring extremists!

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
May 24, 2023 8:34 pm

Dr F at 2:34.
So the Big Mole is irretrievably bogged?

No. Not at all.
Very far from it.
Unbogging Big Moll just requires appropriate applications of OPM.

Anything can be done with OPM.

In the best of hands.

H B Bear
H B Bear
May 24, 2023 8:34 pm

As far as I am concerned, the whole Trumble-Morrison debacle was thanks to Howard

Howard’s legacy shrinks with every passing year. Not really what you want as a 3 term Prime Minister (or whatever it was).

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
May 24, 2023 8:35 pm

Lizzie, they have strong leadership but the wrong kind, the worst kind, all power and no care, compassion or leadership

Yes, I agree, their current leadership stinks. I’m thinking of a complete reworking of their Big Man approach to things, including auditing the money and redirecting it to sensible people like Jacinta represents. As for the communities, detribalisation should be encouraged; they are already drifting away and if better housing was available in centres of employment, that would help the process.
If I could I’d bulldoze those remote communities, Nugget Coombes dream, and dismantle the Rousseau Noble Savage ‘attachment to land’. Get real land ownership like we all have – of our homes.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
May 24, 2023 8:37 pm

Where will the anlgo strongholds be?

Anlgoland.
New Anlgolia.
The People’s Sovereign Citizen Republic of Anlgodesh.
Mrs Wilson’s School of Literacy.
Hokkaido.

Crossie
Crossie
May 24, 2023 8:38 pm

C.L. says:
May 24, 2023 at 7:17 pm
Matt Walsh has been banned from appearing on Fox News.

Of course he is. The only one who had him on was Tucker Carlson.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
May 24, 2023 8:38 pm

anlgo

That’s a laxative isn’t it?

Muddy
Muddy
May 24, 2023 8:39 pm

It’s about an Indigenous people that have a special place in this country.

It’s about creating a new royalty; an exalted class, but one which performs no role other than to be worshipped, and has no responsibilities.

Miltonf
Miltonf
May 24, 2023 8:41 pm

The US goes more soviet everyday. Very frightening. As for the murdochs- I wouldn’t piss on them if they were on fire.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
May 24, 2023 8:42 pm

Speaking of home lands, we’ve just spent a lovely day in our lower garden with some tree men doing work on various palms, including a date palm that needed to be cut to be higher. The guys cut into three layers of massive fronds and carried them, prickly things, up five flights of steps to the road. It looks great now. One of the offsiders looked at our 400 odd square metres below a big cliff of rock ledges, at the big area of mown grass we’ve established in the middle, at the big old Jacaranda and Gum and other trees and tall palms of some age, and our new orchard plantings now thriving, and said this looks at though it should be a public park.

We couldn’t have had a better compliment. I wandered around picking off bugs and curled leaves, pulling up weeds and picking up some small sticks for the compost area and it felt like a very productive day. Hairy supervised the cutting back of the mulberry and some other things gone haywire.

Miltonf
Miltonf
May 24, 2023 8:44 pm

Howard’s legacy shrinks with every passing year. Not really what you want as a 3 term Prime Minister (or whatever it was).

Yes it sure does and my attitude to him has gone from quite like to deeply dislike. Especially after his most recent comments about Trump.

Frank
Frank
May 24, 2023 8:44 pm

anlgo
That’s a laxative isn’t it?

That’s Anusol, apparently quite effective as a temporary fix for wrinkles about the eyes.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
May 24, 2023 8:45 pm

If I could I’d bulldoze those remote communities, Nugget Coombes dream, and dismantle the Rousseau Noble Savage ‘attachment to land’.

I’ve seen Zulu villages in South Africa, where the locals live in mud huts, the men still herd their cattle, and the women do their washing in the nearest river, There is none of the squalor and hopelessness you see in local “remote communities” and the children are bright eyed, cheerful and proud of being who they are.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
May 24, 2023 8:47 pm

Oh, and in one community, two perverts who couldn’t keep their hands off the children were dragged down to the community rubbish dump, given a short trial, and “necklaced” then and there.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
May 24, 2023 8:52 pm

The Victorian legal system, in full bloom (the Hun):

A magistrate has wished a protester all the best with his climate fight after he caused peak hour traffic chaos in the CBD on Tuesday.

Hundreds of infuriated drivers were forced to wait up to three hours as Extinction Rebellion protester Dr Nick Abel locked himself to a mini-van parked across two lanes of the Kings Way inbound exit ramp off the West Gate Freeway, about 8.40am.

But Dr Abel, 79, showed little regard for the mayhem he and his fellow protesters caused as he told Magistrate Julia Barling he would continue to disrupt traffic over his climate change views.

Ooooh, I hope that magistrate gives him what for:

The honorary associate professor at ANU, who was recently arrested at a climate protest in Canberra after dousing a plaque outside the Department of Environment in red paint, said the law wouldn’t deter him.

“I do this for the publicity,” he said.

Smack him up, magistrate! Send a message!

Despite Dr Abel’s admissions, Ms Barling spared the elderly protester from conviction, handing him a $500 fine instead.

“I hear what you have said,” she said. “Climate change is a very significant issue for the planet … but the issue before the court is what you have done to raise awareness.”

“I do wish you all the best in raising awareness.”

Baby Jesus wept tears of rage. Shocked, but not surprised.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
May 24, 2023 8:55 pm

In some respects, some, this is not too far from the truth … yes I know it is tv, but.

In reality, considering all the three and four letter agencies are corrupt to the core ( have you been loving under a rock if you disagree? ), those eleven journos would already be on a list.

Food for thought.

The Blacklist – The Cabal

Crossie
Crossie
May 24, 2023 9:01 pm

Cassie of Sydney says:
May 24, 2023 at 8:26 pm
“Happy for you to disagree with me.”

I don’t, and I actually agree with Morrison’s point. It’s just that given his recent history, he should shut up.

We can’t turn our noses at anyone who takes our sides the voice battle. I have a lot of contempt for ScoMo but he may still convince some people to vote no.

Razey
Razey
May 24, 2023 9:01 pm

“I do wish you all the best in raising awareness.”

Give me the pension so I can protest and be immune from any financial consequence.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
May 24, 2023 9:02 pm

I have a lot of contempt for ScoMo but he may still convince some people to vote no

That muppet’s best contribution to the No vote would be to publicly say he’ll be voting Yes.

Crossie
Crossie
May 24, 2023 9:03 pm

Please excuse the typos in my previous comment, I need to proofread before pressing Post Comment.

Miltonf
Miltonf
May 24, 2023 9:06 pm

We’d be better off without academics. Especially attention seeking ANU ones.

Miltonf
Miltonf
May 24, 2023 9:08 pm

The Victorian legal system, in full bloom

I call that tearing up the social contract. Of course lawyers and academics are eloi and neither know nor care about real work are the challenges faced by regular citizens.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
May 24, 2023 9:09 pm

The Hun:

Australian man Jake Michael Herd found dead in Kazakhstan Mountains

Right. Kazakhstan’s off the stronghold list then.

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  1. Patton said ‘nothing to see here’.Magically, six months afterward he got the big chair.Reliable. BTW, did anyone end up in…

  2. To be fair, I was sort of hoping it would be a fat blue-haired chick.A similar image popped into my…

  3. Scott, a sneering, sanctimonious and pompous git well known for his leftist credentials, was quickly rewarded after he left their…

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