Open Thread – Tues 23 May 2023
2,081 responses to “Open Thread – Tues 23 May 2023”
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Knuckle Dragger says:
May 24, 2023 at 10:19 amThat’s it…I’m off to make a roast chicken sandwich on white bread
Ensure the chook bits are covered with salt. And I mean covered.
You’ll live to 150.
4I vividly remember eating roast chook (with lots of salt) on white bread sandwiches on an early morning long distance bus.
Delicious.
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“..it always amazes me how the various “victim” groups are unable to grasp that it’s the very people they keep demonising who empowered them when they didn’t have to.”
Yeah, this whole “you don’t know what it’s like being xxx” drives me crazy – self evidently I do not, since I am not xxx. And you do not know what it is like to be yyy – because you are not. What is your point? That you didn’t get a choice? Neither did I!
The law and other rules that we currently have are sufficient to allow anyone, regardless of race, colour, creed, religion, sex or sexuality to be successful – if they have the talent, skills, attitude and fortitude to do so. If you have none of these, then you can work hard to obtain them or overcome their lack, at which point you will succeed. Stop using your race/colour/creed/sex/sexuality/whatever as an excuse to be lazy – if your life is bad, get off your backside and do something about it! You are no more entitled to the fruits of the sweat of my brow than I am of yours. Turn your disadvantage into an advantage – if life hands you lemons, make lemonade and stop complaining that you think life handed me strawberries! I assure you life has handed me more than a few lemons, the same as most of the rest of the world and I did as most everyone has to – I got up, dusted myself off, said “Bugger! Didn’t see that one coming” and tried again. And again. And again. I try to learn from each mistake I make – and I have made and will continue to make plenty of them – to get something positive from it. So I ask no more of you than I require from myself.
Life is what you make it – if you make it nothing, it will be nothing, and there is no-one to blame but you.
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In Hopefully the ABC Stenographer Became Confused and It’s Not Really Happening Like This news:
$100m spent on underground mapping before tunnelling woes, Snowy Hydro boss admits
Mr Barnes has now acknowledged that a huge boring machine known as Florence, which became trapped underground in December, may be stuck for “weeks or months” longer.
He said significant efforts were being made to extricate the 2,000-tonne machine, which triggered a sinkhole when it struck trouble 70 metres into a 17-kilometre journey.
Part of these efforts would include constructing a slurry machine that can “liquefy” the soil in front of the borer, making its passage forwards easier.
Technical Note 1: In fact this “slurry machine” will be providing pressurised slurry to hold up the unconsolidated ground ahead of the TBM, and prevent water and loose material from falling into the excavation and extending the sinkhole that has the TBM trapped. In this situation, ‘liquefying the soil’ is not your friend.
Under questioning from Nationals senator Perin Davey, Mr Barnes revealed the latest troubles arose despite Snowy Hydro spending tens of millions of dollars on geotechnical work.
“Prior to the financial investment decision there was in the order of $100m spent on geotechnical surveys,” Mr Barnes said.
“So we feel we have good coverage of the site.
“We are obviously looking at all sorts of ways to mitigate the schedule delay.
“But once you get the tunnel boring machine going you can … do imaging in front of the tunnel boring machine and go around any significant issues.”
Technical Note 2: Geomechanics 101 tells us that the high risk area in any underground excavation is where you have shallow cover, which may be unconsolidated and prone to collapse. In this case, exactly where Florence is presently stuck. So, perhaps a bit ambitious to claim “good coverage of the site”.
Technical Note 3: ‘Imaging’ the ground ahead and slaloming around any geological obstacles sounds pretty hi-tech and will no doubt thrill the Hon Senators. In reality, Florence is a big, complicated, 2,000 tonne behemoth capable (with extensive forward planning) of only very gentle steering (say 10mm in every 1000mm advance).
Not sure what ‘imaging’ Mr Barnes is imagining, but zigzagging around, reacting to difficult ground conditions on the fly, is not in the TBM Operating Manual. The cost and delay issues in this throwaway line are not insignificant.
Historical Note: Snowy 2.0 was gifted to Australia by Miserable Ghost, as a $2 bn ‘up and running by 2021’ windfall. Currently up and running towards $10 bn by 2029 – a few years after Eraring shuts down.
Luckily:
Unlike other forms of storage such as batteries, which typically can only discharge for a matter of hours, Snowy 2.0 would be able to provide power continuously for up to seven days.
It was this capability, Mr Barnes said, that made pumped hydro so critical to backing up intermittent wind and solar generation.
“I think it’s an incredibly important asset to the energy transition and I fully expect it to be very commercial,” Mr Barnes said.
But, not Too Cheap to Meter?
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Brittany Higgins’ ‘drive to be in media’ made work difficult: top cop
By Kristin Shorten
Investigative Journalist
and Remy Varga
NSW Reporter
@RemyVarga
2:31PM May 24, 2023The senior police officer who oversaw the investigation into Brittany Higgins’ rape allegation says the complainant’s “drive to be in the media” made their work “difficult”, and that it impacted their relationship with the Victims of Crime Commissioner.
Detective Superintendent Scott Moller is giving his third day of evidence at the Board of Inquiry into the ACT’s criminal justice system, chaired by Walter Sofronoff KC.
During cross examination of Supt Moller, Heidi Yates’s lawyer asserted that the Victims of Crime Commissioner was “well within her rights” to become Ms Higgins’ support person and act as a conduit between the complainant and police who were investigating her rape claim against Bruce Lehrmann.
Peggy Dwyer said that under the Victims of Crime Commission Act the Ms Yates “is entitled to be present at the hearing of a proceeding” and act as a complainant’s support person if she chooses or is asked to do so.
Supt Moller admitted that the relationship between police and Ms Higgins, before Ms Yates was involved, was already “difficult”.
“You’ve pointed out it was frustrating for police, wasn’t it, trying to work with Ms Higgins to help develop the case?” she asked.
Supt Moller confirmed that Ms Higgins’ strategy in prioritising media engagement over the police investigation “made it difficult for investigators”.
“It was difficult because of the perceived interest that Ms Higgins had in the media, the drive that Ms Higgins showed to be in the media,” he said.
The inquiry heard that on April 8, 2021 Supt Moller received a briefing document from Detective Inspector Marcus Boorman, authored by Detective Sergeant Garreth Saunders, saying that Ms Higgins had asked for the investigation into her rape allegation to be re-opened but that she had refused to provide a police statement at that time.
“Yes, she had had an engagement with the media at that time,” Supt Moller said.
“The significance for me at that time was that Ms Higgins had already done media interviews and it appeared to me, from what I was told, that Ms Higgins wanted the matter reported and wanted it to be a ‘live’ investigation, is the word she used.
“And my opinion was that she wanted it ‘live’ to give credibility to the story that was being aired between February and May.”
Supt Moller said investigators’ frustrations deepened when Ms Higgins would not produce her mobile phone for examination.
Supt Moller, who has been an investigator since 1994, said he had enjoyed a “productive and respectful” working relationship with Ms Yates prior to investigating the rape allegation against Mr Lehrmann.
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Adam Creighton has an article up at Oz and via his Twitter about Australian Twitter files. Matt Taibbi Twitter has more details. The Oz article not getting many comments so perhaps the Government also given them their orders.
Dept of Home Affairs were sending “hefty lists” to Twitter to suppress. Don’t mention the point the virus was man made was one Twitter rule. Although that was a couple of years ago.
Yet another reason why there will never be a Royal Commission. They are all involved.
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Albanese has apparently promised Modi “swift action” over attacks on temples:
But when are we going to see any action about the spate of unsolved arson attacks on churches in Victoria stretching back almost a decade?
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Marcus Stewart’s claim to be a proud “Nira illim bulluk man of the Taungurung Nation” is based on an Aboriginal great – great grandfather.
I have a great solution – take away all the special departments, quotas, funding, preferments, all the extra stuff just for Aborigines.
Get a great red pen and strike a line through it all.
Gone!
I think he will then discover that he lives in a society without racism. One where there is no big deal if you are white or black or yellow. (Rangas are not a race!)
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Tom says:
May 24, 2023 at 12:29 pm
Andrews is now beyond satire.
He’s an authoritarian autocrat in bed with the Chinese Communist Party, who the little people in his own parliamentary party are scared of, but he’s figured out how to control democratic retail politics —
You need a topline political opposition to take him on. Instead, we have the Stupid Frigging Liberals,Andrews hasn’t figured out anything, he is just very lucky with his opposition as has already been pointed out. As far as I am concerned the opposition is as guilty for the situation in Victoria since they refuse to provide an acceptable alternative. Losing one election while they are learning is one thing but losing a series of elections means enemy action and they should be completely scrapped.
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“You’ve pointed out it was frustrating for police, wasn’t it, trying to work with Ms Higgins to help develop the case?” she asked.
Why would plod be “working” with “nickerless” .. maybe I watch too much TV but my impression of investigating is the victim reports the crime and other than statements or ID parades leading to an arrest plod does the digging around not spend time “consulting” with the victim …….. -
Somebody has been unkind enough to suggest that Campbell hands back his own medals…
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The Daily Mail link above is prefaced by a story about Mafia intimidation and someone complying to corruption even though he knew it was wrong. Compliance comes readily with a gun to your head.
It then continues on ..
This may sound like the opening scene to a Martin Scorsese film, but trust me, it’s a true story. Not just of corruption, but also of fear — and how fear can very quickly throw our moral compass off balance. People will do or say anything when there’s a gun to their head.
We like to kid ourselves we live in more civilised times, but the truth is these days we all have that metaphorical gun to our heads. There is a new kind of cultural mafia in town, one that styles itself as kind and caring and compassionate and socially sophisticated — but which is, in fact, just as ruthless, just as determined, to bend us to its will.
Every day, in all sorts of ways, they make us offers we can’t refuse, and we find ourselves being asked to say and think things that are manifestly not true.
And so we agree that women can have penises (Lib Dem leader Ed Davey maintained in a radio interview on LBC today that this was ‘quite clear’). And that men can give birth. We applaud as people with thighs like tree-trunks and Adam’s apples accept first prize in female sporting competitions, dwarfing their exhausted and bemused rivals.
We do our best not to flinch as biological males get paid untold sums to advertise tampons and sports bras. We stand back as children are given puberty-blocking hormones and encouraged to mutilate their bodies. We allow convicted rapists to inveigle themselves into women’s prisons.
We watch in silence as those whose views or behaviours don’t comply with the dogma of the impeccably woke are defenestrated, their words and actions twisted out of all proportion.
We nod as our books and plays and comedy sketches are re-written, excised of nuance, purged of meaningful, thoughtful, original or — God forbid — humorous content. We accept our history being re-written out of context and time, sacrifice our heroes to the modern cult of victimhood and blame.
… and we see immediately that this is worse than the mafia, because it’s not intimidation from just one criminal organisation, this is intimidation by an ideology that has its grip on a whole society: this is what Communism is about. They come for you, your job and your family, they make you a non-person (like the old Soviet Deep-Sixing), and they stifle your right to say what you think, to live as you choose and to have an honest say in your own future.
Our one opportunity now is to say NO quite strongly to another attempt to blindside us with their fake blandishments while they implement yet more of their onerous ideology on the last bastion of a free people – on our Constitution. This is no kindly feel-good exercise to assist aboriginal people (they are not First Nations, they were never nations) and to simply ‘listen’ to representatives (unelected though they will be). This is a grab at power to change the very nature of our sovereignty. Worse will follow.
Time to say NO to more of the same.
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Yeah – I reckon this must explain what is happening.
Today, having not much to do, I perused my file of published letters to the Oz – which goes back many, many years.
I can tell you that the majority would not pass muster by the censors of The Oz today. -
Trump is not a backseat kind of guy. And as a past President I cannot see him going in as a junior on another President’s team.
All true, but more to the point, why would Trump do such a thing leading R primary polls v DeSantis, 58 v 16 (Harvard-Harris poll) and 62 v 17 (Rasmussen Reports) respectively?
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Interesting recent report by RUSI on the progress of the war in Ukraine. One of the interesting tidbits being how well RUS electronic warfare is operating. Apparently, they are destroying roughly 10K UAVs every month.
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Again, not having much to do …….I scanned a little handbook I have on the “Art of War” by Sun Tzu.
Reading through his chapter on “Planning Offensives”, I see the following entry:
“..the highest realisation of warfare is to attack the enemy’s plans; next to attack their alliances…..”
The Chinese have certainly been disrupting the existing middle eastern and even Pacific alliances of the US – notably the Saudis, Turkey, Iran, Malaysia and even France.
Further, now that the dollar is looking shaky, the yuan is looking good to these turncoats.
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Lady I know said to me today that the problem with the LIbs in Victoria is that the right wing has been taken over.
Friend of mine (female) genuinely believes the ABC is right wing!
From her point of view, she’s right too.All through the 9 years of “Liberal” government, every time she switched on the ABC she saw Abbott, Turnbull or Morrison. That they were the government and naturally the centre of attention was of no account. She wanted an ABC on which they never appeared or were mentioned.
In other words, reality was right wing and she objected to it.
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From Dr. Phillip Altman’s Substack today:
In one of the most grotesque votes ever taken in the Australian Senate, a majority of Senators voted NOT TO INVESTIGATE THE UNEXPLAINED NON-COVID EXCESS DEATHS WHICH HAVE OCCURRED SINCE THE INTRODUCTION OF THE COVID-19 “VACCINES”. This is horrifying and terrifying.
If there was any doubt whatsoever that our government is wilfully blind to the death and destruction they have caused…….this is it. The vaccine linked deaths amount to a 737 planeload of passengers unexpectedly falling from the sky every week since January 2021 and our government is not even curious as to why.
As documented by the Australian Bureau of Statistics, more than 10,000 Australians above historical averages are dying of heart attack, stroke, cancer, diabetes, dementia and other neurological diseases since the COVID “vaccines” were released near the start of 2021. These numbers do notinclude COVID declared deaths. This is the worst death rate since WWII and our government has not offered a credible explanation for the deaths. This is more than incompetence and dereliction of duty. In my view, this is sinister.
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Marcus Stewart’s claim to be a proud “Nira illim bulluk man of the Taungurung Nation” is based on an Aboriginal great – great grandfather.
Just eff off.
Half of my relatives and probably a fair swathe of the rest of Australia could be making these sorts of silly claims in that case. If you don’t have at least an aboriginal (and not a part-part-aboriginal) grandpa or grandma then you aren’t aboriginal by any meaningful definition. You should also live in an aboriginal community or network. By any useful definition most aboriginal people, especially those who are needy, today live in the northern parts of Australia, especially if they live in remote communities. They don’t need a Canberra Voice, they need strong leadership and enforceable rules for living. They need more demountable housing in larger towns to facilitate movement away from remote communities and a proper education that dumps traditional culture in favour of useful learning for this century. There’s plenty of land rights money around to ensure they get a fair go without Albo’s Canberra vanity project. Let’s have some audits of where all the money given so far goes before we agree, as we should, to help out any more.
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Mr Barnes has now acknowledged that a huge boring machine known as Florence, which became trapped underground in December, may be stuck for “weeks or months” longer.
Still stuck after six months? I’d laugh except I’m paying for the wretched thing.
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Marcus Stewart’s claim to be a proud “Nira illim bulluk man of the Taungurung Nation” is based on an Aboriginal great – great grandfather.
Why do all these “proud” folk keep their ‘whitie” names? .. shirley, yez “pride” would demand ya adopts a “native” moniker …!
Also what is a Nirra illim bulluck man? .. fair whack of “lower case” fer a “proud” man .. LOL! -
Re the stupid Snowy project. Don’t know if someone else has said this but it seems that the gov exempted the project from a lot of environmental rules the rest of us have to obey. One of them is the law against transporting pest fish species into other waters. Well if you like fishing for trout in Eucumbene, Tantangara and Jindabyne, do it now. The project will draw water from the pondage at Khancoban and pump it up to Tantangara, which is the highest point on the Snowy Scheme, from there it will be released down into the lower lakes. All these lakes have only native species and trout, won’t be long till they have redfin and carp too.
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Veterans say a fresh attempt by the defence force chief to strip service medals from soldiers is unwarranted.
General Angus Campbell has written to a number of Afghanistan war veterans saying their honours for distinguished and conspicuous service could be stripped, the ABC has reported.
The proposition has landed on the desk of Defence Minister Richard Marles, who would need to make a recommendation to the governor-general.
The possible stripping of medals comes in the wake of investigations into potential war crimes carried out by Australian soldiers in Afghanistan.
This bloke should be drummed out of the service. Disgusting.
Anyone named Angus should be ashamed – cattle will be embarrassed.
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FMD just FMD, I just watched the Senate grilling the ABC’s Editor in Chief Anderson, and I can say without doubt that there is no hope for the ABC.
Denial after denial, he actually said that journalistic standards have not dropped under his watch!I repeat, FMD.
If you are interested the live feed starts again at 4.30 eastern. (foxtel feed)
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This one needs a bit of reading between the lines….
Ezekiel Narndu, 19, described as future leader of community during sentencing for Wadeye riots manslaughter
The 19-year-old who killed a man by throwing a steel bar through his skull was an emerging leader of Wadeye, set to be a ‘force for change’ in the community plagued by disadvantage, violence and gang activity, a court has heard.
The Wadeye teen who killed a man by throwing a steel bar through his skull was an emerging leader of the community who was a “force for change”, a court has heard.
Ezekiel Narndu, 19, was found guilty of reckless or negligent manslaughter earlier this month after causing the death of a 32-year-old man, known for cultural reasons as Mr Tcherna, in Wadeye on April 16, 2022.
In sentencing submissions at Darwin Supreme Court on Monday, both prosecution and defence lawyers spoke of Narndu’s prospects as a positive role model in the community often characterised by disadvantage, violence and gang activity.
Narndu graduated Year 12 in 2020, one of a group of seven who were the first to complete high school in Wadeye in 13 years.
The middle child of five boys, he was close with his family. The seven of them shared a two bedroom home where Narndu’s parents always made sure there was power on and food stocked in the fridge.
Narndu was a non-drinker and was working as a teacher’s aide coaching football at the local school, loved by students and teachers alike.
Crown prosecutor Steve Ledek said it was “very difficult” to put forward submissions for a man charged with “one of the most serious crimes” knowing the hopes that had been held for his future.
“There were expectations that a man with his obvious personality of calmness, care, consideration, and education … was going to change the way the community empower itself, give itself opportunities and be a force for change to the things that the community knew were endemically creating disharmony, chaos, disruption, and grief,” Mr Ledek said.
Defence lawyer Beth Wild said the offending was “very much a departure from character”, arguing Narndu had strong prospects for rehabilitation if he received a light sentence.
“It’s actually in the community’s interest to ensure that he doesn’t become a hardened criminal at Holtze correctional facility, that we let him back to the path that he was set upon before this tragic event occurred,” Ms Wild said.
During Narndu’s eight day trial it was revealed the then 18-year-old had been in a crowd of 150 people who were observing an attempt to mediate ongoing unrest between three family groups.
The Narndu family – one of the groups involved – was leading the peace talks, but were disrupted when a young man charged at two police officers with an axe.
Police were forced to retreat and chaos erupted, Narndu entering the fray and lobbing a steel rebar 30m through the air where it tragically speared Mr Tcherna through the face.
Prosecution argued Narndu’s actions were reckless and he threw the bar at Mr Tcherna knowing death was a possibility.
Defence have argued the bar was thrown randomly into the crowd as an act of “posturing”, and the death was an “incredibly unlucky” outcome from Narndu’s negligence.
Narndu will be sentenced at a later date.
NT News
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That will sort out the fauxboriginals.
You’re fighting the wrong fight.
I’m happy to say to anyone down to 1/1024th that they are genetically Australian Aboriginal- but if they’re carrying phones, driving cars and talking money, they are culturally non-Aboriginal, full stop.
Even if they are, like my man David Unaipon say, a proud and full-blooded member of [their] race.
For too long we’ve let people sidestep responsibility because of their skin-deep physical appearance. I’ve just come back from an Aboriginal Cultural Heritage Act laundry session, and let me say here and now the WA McGowan governement is willingly gifting the entire means of production to an Aboriginal Ruling Caste. -
By any useful definition most aboriginal people, especially those who are needy, today live in the northern parts of Australia, especially if they live in remote communities. They don’t need a Canberra Voice, they need strong leadership and enforceable rules for living. They need more demountable housing in larger towns to facilitate movement away from remote communities and a proper education that dumps traditional culture in favour of useful learning for this century.
Well said, Lizzie! This is exactly what is needed. Sadly, the damage done in encouraging “return to country” & traditional culture/language as basis of education of Aboriginal kids is now so mainstream that I doubt if it can be overturned.
Noel Pearson, for all his recent pigheadedness in relation to the Voice, has done a remarkable job in the Hope community in northern Qld in using “direct education” (AKA teacher oriented instruction of basic education learning modules) to educate community kids up there.
It has not been popular with the Woke establishment in Canberra, but it works.
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132and bush:
The in cab smoko cake for the last few weeks is a 4 x 2 x 1.5 ( inch) slab of carrot cake with crushed pineapple and sultanas.
Heaven.
Its as though I’m being fattened up for something.If you can get fattened up on that crumb, there’s something wrong with your metabolism. Have a word to your local shoppie about portion size and the EBA.
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Re the stupid Snowy project. Don’t know if someone else has said this but it seems that the gov exempted the project from a lot of environmental rules the rest of us have to obey. One of them is the law against transporting pest fish species into other waters. Well if you like fishing for trout in Eucumbene, Tantangara and Jindabyne, do it now. The project will draw water from the pondage at Khancoban and pump it up to Tantangara, which is the highest point on the Snowy Scheme, from there it will be released down into the lower lakes. All these lakes have only native species and trout, won’t be long till they have redfin and carp too.
The upside is that they are Cod bait and the Atlantic Salmon might thrive if they haven’t all died off in Khan Cobain.
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Ezekiel Narndu, 19, described as future leader of community during sentencing for Wadeye riots manslaughter
The circumstances of this dreadful event can hardly be imagined by most Australians who live in capital cities. Places like Wadeye are tinder boxes for these community disputes. By maintaining these communities we have almost frozen history in relation to Aboriginal life and culture. The same family and clan disputes continue to cause terrible violence and deaths.
And will “The Voice” disband these hellholes and give the Aborigines some hope of a useful and safe existence? Oh sure!
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Vicki says:
May 24, 2023 at 3:58 pm
From Dr. Phillip Altman’s Substack today:In one of the most grotesque votes ever taken in the Australian Senate, a majority of Senators voted NOT TO INVESTIGATE THE UNEXPLAINED NON-COVID EXCESS DEATHS WHICH HAVE OCCURRED SINCE THE INTRODUCTION OF THE COVID-19 “VACCINES”. This is horrifying and terrifying.
Of course it is terrifying – for the politicians. There is no way they can allow the consequences of the lockdowns and compulsory vaccines which they approved to be determined. Everything must be consigned to forgettery (thanks to Therese Rudd for the word).
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received this afternoon in email
Dear Friends,
Archbishop Christopher Prowse invites all to a Prayer Vigil for Calvary Hospital at St Christopher’s Cathedral Wednesday, May 24, at 7.30 pm.
The evening will include praying the Rosary, Benediction, songs of worship and short inputs from Archbishop Prowse and Fr Tony Percy.
We will be joined by several Ecumenical and Inter-Faith leaders within the ACT.
Please notify your friends and family of this event.
The Vigil will also be live-streamed at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfVBDW_ADYE
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Was James Brown always high?
James Brown getting interviewed high as kite
“I look good, I smell good, I feel good (you sing good) and I make love good…”
(You’re involved in publishing a gospel magazine as well…)
“Joseph P Young is the editor, The Second Coming, the Pope is on the cover…”
“Brother Ted Turner will be on the cover…TED!…where are you!?”
THIS IS A MAN’S WORLD!!!
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Sadly, the damage done in encouraging “return to country” & traditional culture/language as basis of education of Aboriginal kids is now so mainstream that I doubt if it can be overturned.
The saddest were the cases in the Kimberleys, where children who had been “away to school” returned to their Third World sh!tholes, the cycle of abuse began again, and they took their own lives as a result.
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By any useful definition most aboriginal people, especially those who are needy, today live in the northern parts of Australia, especially if they live in remote communities. They don’t need a Canberra Voice, they need strong leadership and enforceable rules for living. They need more demountable housing in larger towns to facilitate movement away from remote communities and a proper education that dumps traditional culture in favour of useful learning for this century.
Lizzie, they have strong leadership but the wrong kind, the worst kind, all power and no care, compassion or leadership. It is completely at odds with raising a new generation of productive, independent and autonomous people. The longer this situation continues the worse it will become. The only salvation is closing the remote communities and moving the occupants to large metropolitan centres. The culture is the toxic and needs to be diluted with world norms.
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George Gammon on the pretzel logic of “who owns the Fed”.
Sweetheart deals on Bear Stearns and First Republic.
The board of governors may assert independence from time to time, but it’s a bad system.
The upshot is the Fed and a CBDC is the typical “anti capitalists” worst nightmare. The kind of thing they’ll dream up in Jennifer Nation or any rant of Senators Sanders or Warren.
JP Morgan’s Secret About The Fed And CBDCs (EXPOSED!)
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Lidia Thorpe in Senate estimates row with Indigenous minister Malarndirri McCarthy: ‘You’re a disgrace to your people’
By PAIGE TAYLOR
Indigenous Affairs Correspondent, WA Bureau Chief
@paigeataylor
Updated 4:51PM May 24, 2023, First published at 4:33PM May 24, 2023
No CommentsIndigenous Senator Lidia Thorpe has stormed out of senate estimates after a shouting match with Labor MP Malarndirri McCarthy, who told the Greens-turned-independent Senator: “You are a disgrace to your people”.
Senator Thorpe and Senator McCarthy were yelling over each other during an exchange about $14.2m for community safety initiatives in the Northern Territory. After Senator Thorpe had established the money went to police, she shouted at Ms McCarthy: “How dare you”.
Senator Thorpe began questioning a senior public servant from the National Indigenous Australians Agency about whether any of its budget was given to NT Police.
Read Next“Is black money being used for NT Police?” she asked.
The senior public servant replied that NIAA had given money for improvements in safety in communities in the NT.
Senator Thorpe said: “Community safety as in the community being safe from police? Or, which way?”.
The public servant replied: “This money is provided in two areas that have been identified as needing improvements in community safety”.
Senator Thorpe: “How much are you paying the Northern Territory police from black money?”
At this point, another public servant read from budget papers and said: “So Senator in the most recent announcements, $14.2m was provided for high visibility police and law enforcement operations. This includes targetting grog money, increasing the liquor licensing compliance and boosting security guards in public places. There was $10 million for justice reinvestment initiatives in Central Australia”
At his point, Senator Thorpe could be heard interjecting by saying: “Disgusting”
“I am so violated from that answer, I am so disgusted When the Northern Territory police get $14m when our youth services are struggling,” Senator Thorpe said.
She then turned to Senator McCarthy and said: “How can you let this happen Senator McCarthy?”
The assistant minister said the government had given $25m for youth services and, pointing at Senator Thorpe, she said: “How dare you when we have First Nations people working in the police force?”
Senator Thorpe: “Are you protecting the police?”
Senator McCarthy: “No I am telling you we have First Nations police who are doing their best to improve the situation”
Senator Thorpe: “Police are police. Doesn’t matter what colour they are”
The exchange occurred infront of Greens Senator Dorinda Cox, a Noongar woman and former police officer.
Senator McCarthy and Senator Thorpe then began talking over each other at high volume.
Senator McCarthy could be heard to say to Senator Thorpe: You are the disgrace. Rubbishing everyone for your agenda … You are a disgrace to your people.”
Senator McCarthy later withdrew her remarks and Senator Thorpe also withdrew the words “How dare you”.
Then Senator Thorpe left abruptly while talking in a sharp tone. She said in part, an apparent reference to Senator McCarthy: “been in power too long”
The Voice will solve all this, surely?
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A banger from 1993.
Why should we trust the CIA? They helped the Venezuelan National Guard to import one metric tonne of cocaine into the USA.
The CIA’s Cocaine (1993)
60 Minutes- The CIA’s Cocaine (1993)Tax payer money? The CIA owes me a nugget of blow.
The idea we should trust the CIA or FBI about anything is completely absurd.
Next, I will post US Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan’s argument to abolish the CIA from 1991 & 1995.
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https://carnegieendowment.org/2005/12/20/case-for-abolishing-cia-pub-17846
The Case For Abolishing The CIA
John JudisDecember 20, 2005
The New Republic OnlineSummary:
Combining gross incompetence with the violation of international law, historical problems with CIA have gotten worse under George W. Bush. The intelligence reform act passed last year didn’t address them; and the current director Porter Goss appears oblivious to them. These problems have for years plagued the two main functions of the agency: intelligence gathering and covert action.But as Moynihan argued in his last book, Secrecy, there is a way in which the CIA’s peculiar structure and function has encouraged errors and magnified their importance. Moynihan described a “culture of secrecy” created by the CIA and other intelligence agencies. This culture produced a distinction between insiders and outsiders; and outsiders, no matter their experience or expertise, couldn’t possibly know with the same degree of certainty as insiders what was going on in a foreign country. For instance, the CIA ignored an extensive poll taken in Cuba just prior to the Bay of Pigs invasion by political scientist Lloyd A. Free that demonstrated widespread support for Fidel Castro. And prior to the Iraq war, the agency insisted that U.N. inspectors who reported an absence of WMD were being duped by Iraqis.
The distinction between insiders and outsiders not only insulated CIA analysts from obvious questions that outsiders without security clearances might ask; it also bestowed a special status upon the findings that were produced. Their very secrecy made them appear more likely to be true. Moynihan recounted how government officials gave special credence to the Gaither Report, which in 1957 wrongly predicted Soviet economic and military superiority, because it was classified.
Decades of failure.
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Another one down. Well done AFL. Jay Clark in the Hun:
Hawthorn chief executive Justin Reeves has resigned from his position due to the enormous toll of the club’s racism investigation.
Reeves told the board on Wednesday he would step down and needed a break amid the intense pressure on the club.
In a statement the Hawks confirmed Reeves had resigned due to the “personal toll and the need to focus on his wellbeing”.
It comes only one week after North Melbourne coach Alastair Clarkson, who also stepped down for similar reasons, said Hawthorn should be investigated for its “shameful” practices throughout the racism saga spanning back to the bombshell allegations which dropped in September last year.
Reeves spent five years at Hawthorn and led the club through a turbulent period including the end of Clarkson’s reign as coach and Jeff Kennett’s second stint as president.
But it was the weight of the club’s racism investigation which has brought an intense spotlight on the club, including decisions the Hawks made to commence the probe, and its alleged treatment of indigenous and First Nations’ players between 2008-2016.
Reeves is undecided on his next move but confirmed to the club he will take some time away to deal with the stress and scrutiny of the past eight months.
Chief commercial officer Ash Klein will take over as acting CEO as the club, led by president Andy Gowers, begins the search for a new chief executive officer.
Reeves said it was the right time for change at Hawthorn as he looked to prioritise his mental health and spend more time with family.
There’s more in the article but I couldn’t really be bothered with it due to blood pressure rising. Just real arseholery on display by AFL and the pricks running the racism complaint.
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H B Bearsays:
May 24, 2023 at 3:29 pm
Some of these claims of Aboriginality would make Elizabeth Warren blush.My granddaughter is only indigenous by her grandfather. If I had my way it would not be centre to who she is. But since the department has deemed her as ‘identifying’ as indigenous we have to go along with it to get access and eventually kinship care.
My aunty told me how her coloured freinds in Cape Town felt unwelcome in eather culture. I fear with the growing resentment my granddaughter ending up like that. Unless we get her in time. -
The Source in the Hun:
Big names are expected to speak at the “Post Pandemic China-Australia Economic Forum” hosted by the China Chamber of Commerce at the Park Hyatt on June 5 and 6.
The event is co “supported” by the Australia China Business Council and the China Institute for Innovation and Development Strategy, whose vice chairman Feng Wei will speak at the opening ceremony.
It might be noted, at least according to author and researcher Alex Joske, that the institute is staffed by veterans of China’s Ministry of State Security.
The ubiquitous Chinese ambassador Xiao Qian will speak at the opening.
Another speaker is thought to be Premier Dan Andrews, who recently went to China sans media for a series of unreported meetings, where he did not raise the case of Victorian journalist Cheng Lei, imprisoned in China for the past two-and-a-half years.
Do we assume that Andrews will not provide “a running commentary” on the upcoming event, given his office has ignored media requests to confirm or deny Andrews’ appearance at the forum?
So we have Albo and Marles getting submarines in the next century to protect against Chinese aggression, yet Andrews is giving fellatio to the same mob. What gives?
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Zulu Kilo Two Alpha says:
May 24, 2023 at 4:47 pm
Sadly, the damage done in encouraging “return to country” & traditional culture/language as basis of education of Aboriginal kids is now so mainstream that I doubt if it can be overturned.
The saddest were the cases in the Kimberleys, where children who had been “away to school” returned to their Third World sh!tholes, the cycle of abuse began again, and they took their own lives as a result.No returns. Once the children escape they must never be returned to their hell holes. But the government are so scared of the stolen generations tag when they could turn it all around by calling them the rescued generations.
Despair that anything will be done simply because the rescued, city aboriginals need the hell holes to hold over our heads to extort power and money. I consider them the most culpable for the conditions in NT and remote communities in other states. I am horrified at how little real fellow feeling they have for those whom they claim to be of their own race.
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rosie:
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Media (including Sharri) continue to refer to Rolf Harris in a derogatory fashion (re some gropes etc of young or junior women), despite his record of achievements as a performer and artist.
The same people mostly have nothing bad to say about the growing trend for young or junior girls and boys to be encouraged to ruin their lives by “transitioning” to the gender of their choice before they reach an age where a more sober assessment could take place. -
duncanm says:
May 24, 2023 at 12:42 pmYou need a fishing license payable annually or they fine you.
not if you’re under 18
Duncan, you’re 100% right.
What you can do
buy a fishing licence if you’re between 18 to 70 years
get a free fisher card if you’re under 18 years or 70 years and over.You don’t need a fishing licence if you’re
under 18 years or over 70 years
a person identifying as Aboriginal or Torres Strait Islander
a Victorian or interstate equivalent Seniors Card holder
a Veterans’ Affairs Pensioner or TPI-coded Repatriation Health Card holder
a Commonwealth Pensioner Concession Card holder, coded either DSP, DSP Blind, AGE, AGE Blind or CAR.I go fishing quite a bit, but refuse to buy a license. I’m not identifying as a Torres Strait Islander if I’m ever asked.
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But the government are so scared of the stolen generations tag when they could turn it all around by calling them the rescued generations.
“Bringing Them Home” investigation was a farce and a sham. The Aboriginal Legal Service demanded the right to vet the list of witnesses, and anyone who didn’t sing from the approved sheet – station managers or mounted police with stories of mixed race children left behind to die, or five year old girls given in marriage to the old men- didn’t get to give evidence.
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Boo ferdiken hoo!
CBA people employed, not necessarily working have been told to get their arses into the office, BUT only half the time.I bet a thousand pound to a green goose turd that for many who post here that would mean like I used to be, at least 35 hrs per week.
OT
Our family accountant says if he hires people straight from school they are almost illiterate, won’t entertain even a couple of hours overtime. He’s fearful for the future.
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ABC boss David Anderson is “worried” about staff at the public broadcaster ahead of this year’s Indigenous voice referendum as he again apologised for not saying sorry to Q+A host Stan Grant sooner.
Does anyone understand why the ABC CEO is apologizing to Tan Grant as I don’t get it. Did Anderson make racist remarks directed at Tan?
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But Yates?
Well – she knows she’s potentially in the shit, too. Why all the attention to knickerless and not any of the other alleged victims of rape being processed through the courts?
In other more amusing news, Drumgold has kicked himself in the teeth again, then put the boot in while he lay on the ground moaning. Quite an act of flexibility.
Accusing Moller of having a ‘biased, stereotyped attitude towards the behaviour of complainants’ with regards to rape, Moller has disclosed that he was sexually assaulted at a young age.
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But the government are so scared of the stolen generations tag when they could turn it all around by calling them the rescued generations.
“Bringing Them Home” investigation was a farce and a sham. The Aboriginal Legal Service demanded the right to vet the list of witnesses, and anyone who didn’t sing from the approved sheet – station managers or mounted police with stories of mixed race children left behind to die, or five year old girls given in marriage to the old men- didn’t get to give evidence.
Of the dozens of stolen generation cases which came before the courts, only one has succeeded: bruce Trevorrow; and he succeeded because he proved there was no stolen generation. Like everything else to do with 3rd nations and every other left cause, it is a pack of BS and lies.
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and therefore have to work out a way of tricking him/her into publishing it
‘community standards’ is double-speak
what we have is a bunch of zealots trying as best they can to avoid a personal stint in cultural siberiathere aren’t standard setters censoring you and a comment,
they dont really give a flying proverbial what you have to say
they…as a group…are not policing you, they’re policing each otheryou gotta let the sub-editor, or fact-checker, or pre-crime-officer have a way out
maybe a simile with a finely honed edge will help sever a Gordian knot?
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Hawthorn chief executive Justin Reeves has resigned from his position due to the enormous toll of the club’s racism investigation.
A useful idiot who allowed the Hawthorn Football Club to be used by radical political activists to destroy the reputations of two respected football coaches, who did nothing wrong and are innocent of the ludicrous allegations against them.
Meanwhile, the scum responsible for the witchhunt are being protected by the AFL from the consequences of their criminal misbehavior and will never be held accountable for their actions.
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Crossie:
Despair that anything will be done simply because the rescued, city aboriginals need the hell holes to hold over our heads to extort power and money. I consider them the most culpable for the conditions in NT and remote communities in other states. I am horrified at how little real fellow feeling they have for those whom they claim to be of their own race.
Remember the Bakhtiyari brothers?
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bespokesays:
May 24, 2023 at 5:41 pm
Twitter Files Extra: The Australian government’s censorship requestsAt least that has unmasked our national censorship department.
The Social Cohesion Division of the Department of Home Affairs.
https://www.homeaffairs.gov.au/about-us/our-portfolios/social-cohesionCommunity engagement is about strengthening the bonds between us. It involves open dialogue, sharing information, building trust and showing respect.
… well, maybe not the sharing information part.
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As evidenced by the responses here, most recently Tom and Bushie, the ‘No’ campaign will win with a leg in the air.
People in my neck of the woods are heartily sick of the shit being forced down their throats in regards to Teh Voice. As has also been noted here, it is inner city whites and academics who see the Voice as their chance at tenure.
The way this referendum is defeated is to mobilise the rural areas whose interest is scant at best. I endeavour to put some flyers up around the town to at least put this issue at the front of mind when push comes to shove. -
Unedifying vision of Albanese licking Modi’s fingers over targeting of Hindu temples here.
Perhaps Albo should have acquainted himself, pre-prostration, about this.
Good boy. Good dog.
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Calvary Health Care at ‘impasse’ with government as protesters lament ‘diabolical’ hospital takeover
There’s also been an outcry from religious communities, with the Australian Christian Lobby protesting outside the Legislative Assembly on Wednesday, urging the ACT Government to reconsider the acquisition.
CEO Wendy Francis labelled the takeover as a “diabolical act” and urged Calvary to bring an injunction against the legislation the government introduced to make this possible.
“It’s a Soviet-style takeover. They’ve just come in and not had any consultation with the hospital, no consultation with the stakeholders, and the day after the day they announced the takeover, they introduced legislation into the Parliament to allow them to do this,” she said.
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And…while I’m feeling a tad critical of our political masters…
Vivid starts in Sydney this weekend. Shame our teeny weeny minded government couldn’t afford a magic lantern slide for the Coronation. You know…the sort projected onto the Opera House sails.
Very selective in those once-in-a-generation events is Our Labor Pardy and their minions.
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I endeavour to put some flyers up around the town to at least put this issue at the front of mind when push comes to shove.
Somebody is already putting fake information leaflets through letterboxes in Albany, based on the “Freedom of Information release from the National Aborigines Advisory Council.”
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