Open Thread – Weekend 27 May 2023


His Mother’s Joy, Hugh Cameron, 1884

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Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

To operate a pub in regressive Qld, I require 55 separate licences & permits

Dot, there’s 6 tickets that have to be held by even the most basic bar staff.
Non bar staff can get away with usually 1 or 2 tickets.

I can get most new hires accredited for the job in under a week. (by giving them the answers to some of the tests)

The whole thing is utter bullshit.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
May 28, 2023 10:15 pm

Good advice re circuit breakers.
Modern switchboards are pretty safe.
Have one go at resetting after unplugging what you suspect might be the offending appliance.
If it trips out again, call a sparky.
Don’t risk burning the place down by pushing it.
I can remember people inserting two-inch nails in the old fuse boxes when the fuse wire kept burning out.
Yikes!

MatrixTransform
May 28, 2023 10:16 pm

It’s not rocket science as you’re inferring

listen up folks … the B Comm knows how stuff really works

tbh JC, technically most of it actually is rocket science

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
May 28, 2023 10:16 pm

It seems that, as part of Reconciliation Week, the front page of tomorrow’s “West Australian” is being printed in the Noongar dialect…..Words fail me, they honestly do.

Dot
Dot
May 28, 2023 10:19 pm

I had an RSA and RCG in NSW when I was a “kid”, I got my security licence later.

I pissed myself laughing when in NSW the RSA & RCG started to be issued like a car driver’s licence/identity card. A East German style licence to pull beers and pour liquor & wine.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

printed in the Noongar dialect

That’s actually quite something.
I’ve always wondered what writing system the Noongar used. Tomorrow we’ll find out.

MatrixTransform
May 28, 2023 10:20 pm

apply to second hand European EFI TDI cars.

well, CANbus and LON aren’t for the faint-hearted

still, a B Comm could work it out with a pencil I’m sure

JC
JC
May 28, 2023 10:21 pm

listen up folks … the B Comm knows how stuff really works

tbh JC, technically most of it actually is rocket science

I’m sure Musk is looking out for weekend motor mechanics and a/c repair schleps to send big rockets into space. Who needs rocket scientists and engineers afterall. Same thing really.

flyingduk
flyingduk
May 28, 2023 10:22 pm

These modern cars are complex 3D jigsaw puzzles not designed with even routine maintenance in mind.

Correct, modern cars are 95% designed for ease of manufacture (this, and packaging efficiency is the principle driving force behind Front wheel drive, which is inferior dynamically in most sporting applications).

Maintenance and service is a minor priority, often requiring special tools or major dismantling.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

…..licence to pull beers and pour liquor & wine.

Lol, the threshold is actually far lower.
To handle liquor, one is required to have an RSA. This means even a sealed can/bottle inside a storeroom.

Dot
Dot
May 28, 2023 10:24 pm

Maintenance and service is a minor priority, often requiring special tools or major dismantling.

That’s true even for older cars. I have a friend who had an 1989 Mazda 323 and you needed special tools to reach some of the nuts, hex bolts etc.

JC
JC
May 28, 2023 10:25 pm

Dot, there’s 6 tickets that have to be held by even the most basic bar staff.
Non bar staff can get away with usually 1 or 2 tickets.

I can get most new hires accredited for the job in under a week. (by giving them the answers to some of the tests)

The whole thing is utter bullshit.

Just so we’re all clear on this. The 52 permits and licenses aren’t part of the “tickets” thing, right? We haven’t morphed from permits and licenses to “tickets”.

If not 20, how about 17?

MatrixTransform
May 28, 2023 10:27 pm

Modern switchboards are pretty safe.

I love it when sancho tries to sound all authoritative and technical

like today when he dodged the whole vapour-pressure thing and Bernoulli to explain where your petrol went as you open the fuel tank on your car

he’s a fair dinkum engineering Dr Watson

and of course, we all know that JC is like Sherlock Holmes, natch.

Rabz
May 28, 2023 10:27 pm

Front wheel drive

There will not be any of that, Cats.

Not having it, I tells ya.

JC
JC
May 28, 2023 10:29 pm

principle driving force behind Front wheel drive, which is inferior dynamically in most sporting applications).

Compare driving front wheel to a rear wheel drive on a road packed with snow. Front wheel will suddenly not appear so inferior.

Indolent
Indolent
May 28, 2023 10:29 pm
MatrixTransform
May 28, 2023 10:31 pm

Same thing really

yes … it is

Indolent
Indolent
May 28, 2023 10:31 pm
Rabz
May 28, 2023 10:31 pm
Indolent
Indolent
May 28, 2023 10:32 pm
Steve trickler
Steve trickler
May 28, 2023 10:33 pm

Interesting so far. The 75 year old lady he meets @8:13 is head strong to say the least with plenty of stories to tell. @14:55 Anheuser-Busch / Bud Light is mentioned and states she cannot even give it away … even the Mexicans have ditched it. Not sure about the military drone commentary; It’s mostly young women behind the controls due to fast reflexes. Who knows?

Will carry on watching…

———–

Peter Santenello:

27 May 2023 NEVADA
Not far from the Vegas strip are starkly different worlds: dusty towns, a ski resort, cathouses, and ghost towns. Join me on this epic adventure to meet the locals in one of the wildest regions of the United States.

Outside Las Vegas

JC
JC
May 28, 2023 10:34 pm

MatrixTransform says:
May 28, 2023 at 10:31 pm

Same thing really

yes … it is

Okay then, go Tweet Musk that you can send up a old model Toyota into space. I’m sure he’ll want to get in touch with you.

Indolent
Indolent
May 28, 2023 10:35 pm
MatrixTransform
May 28, 2023 10:36 pm

Okay then, go Tweet Musk

look … it was only ever a theory, that JC gets stupider every time he posts

JC
JC
May 28, 2023 10:38 pm

Here. Trans.

I’ll even help you write the tweet.

Hi Elon, my name is Ivan Tittsoff and have an interesting proposition for you. I’m quite confident I will be able to send a late model Toyota into space and was wondering if you’re interested in having further discussions.

Thanks

Ivan.

JC
JC
May 28, 2023 10:41 pm

How about 13 licenses and permits then?

Rabz
May 28, 2023 10:44 pm

Where Are Woodward and Bernstein When We Need Them

Demolished as total frauds by Tucker during his extraordinary defence of “Tricky Dicky“.

One of my best mates, who was an ultraconservative when we were at school, always maintained that Nixon had been set up.

Well guess what – he was correct.

Yet another reason why Tucker had to be removed from MudTel.

Telling the truth is verboten, proles.

Rabz
May 28, 2023 10:46 pm

Let alone unearthing it.

Collectivist shibboleths are sacred.

JC
JC
May 28, 2023 10:50 pm

LOL. I said ‘depends on the craft’ and here you want to set parameters to your own benefit.

Okay, so you don’t want parameters then, so hit us with crafts that we can assume require very high level intelligence. But let’s not confuse engineering with toolies.

But leave that aside, if a surgeon is just a craftsmen much like an electrician, why isn’t an electrical engineer in the same class?

Dover, do you realize that the discussion has been about toolies and not engineers. Engineers, that is real ones and not those that pretend they are , are very smart people. We not talking about engineers.

Further, although a lot of run of the mill tasks don’t require high intelligence, I’m sure it helps with the not so run of the mill problems they may face. Moreover, what the craftmen has is ‘know how’ and a master craftsmen has that in a manner that is hard to duplicate because it is near impossible to put into words fully, because it’s a combination of physical and mental acuity and delicacy.

You lost me after “further”, explain.

MatrixTransform
May 28, 2023 10:51 pm

Hi Ivan,

it’s nice to hear from you again.

I know your mate JC thinks he’s being clever but sending a Yaris into space is a total waste of time because there is absolutely no parking on Mars.

Tell him that if he if he’s good for a million, instead of full of shit, that I’ll let him drive the spaceship on the way back

very funny smart-arse

Elon

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
May 28, 2023 10:58 pm

who else thinks indians are stealing our petrol?

MatrixTransform
May 28, 2023 11:00 pm

lol … sancho … what petrol?

JC
JC
May 28, 2023 11:01 pm

I think it’s the Thai. Some look very Comanche-like.

Arky
May 28, 2023 11:04 pm

The Wright brothers were high school drop outs who fixed bicycles for a living.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
May 28, 2023 11:05 pm

I wondered how much was attributable to an alignment of the personality type drawn to the job having susceptibility to addiction, and how much was simply opportunity and access (coupled with a belief they can control it, of course).

Apparently and allegedly, you bet.

Doctors and assorted ‘health professionals’ used to be massively over-represented in heroin addiction, because they (apparently) tended to believe that a) they knew what they were doing, unlike the mugginses from the western ‘burbs, and b) they believed wholeheartedly that their particular smack was both pure and obtained from a special source, which it never is – on both counts.

Instead of stealing cars and raiding grannies who’d just left ATMs though, the high-falutin’ ‘professionals’ just ended up in rehab instead of going to prison.

They still died, though. Vets were said to be notorious for offing themselves using high-powered animal anaestethics.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
May 28, 2023 11:06 pm

who else thinks indians are stealing our petrol?

Crapping in the tanks, too.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Something happened tonight that hasn’t happened since 2019 or earlier: At dinner time someone complained about the tucker.
This didn’t carry much as weight as you’d first think, as it was before they’d even ordered.
After second course, the same person got everybody in their party (about 20 people) to applaud the staff, & applaud the food.

Didn’t make any difference to the girl who prepared the tucker, she’d already walked out sobbing.
She’d spent all the night before preparing carefully all sorts of delicacies, just for this party.

Some people are so callously cruel, & never get the punch in the face they deserve.

JC
JC
May 28, 2023 11:08 pm

Great non-sequitur.

Elon Musk has a materials science degree from Stanford. So what?

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

who else thinks indians are stealing our petrol?

Who knows who is stealing our fuel – our strategic reserve is in Louisiana & Texas, or was.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
May 28, 2023 11:13 pm

Sal… who is running the joint- you, or that d*ckhead ringmaster?

JC
JC
May 28, 2023 11:14 pm

Driller wouldn’t answer the question about requiring 52 permits and licenses to run a hotel, so I did the next best thing. I asked AI and this is what it came up with.

What are the permits and licenses required to operate a Hotel in Queensland Australia.

For an established hotel in Queensland, Australia, the licenses and permits required may vary based on factors such as the location, size, and services provided by the hotel. Here are some common licenses and permits that may apply:

1. Liquor License: If your hotel serves alcohol, you will need a liquor license. The type of license required depends on factors such as the size of the premises and the types of alcoholic beverages sold.

2. Gaming License: If your hotel operates gaming machines, such as slot machines or pokies, you will need a gaming license issued by the Office of Liquor and Gaming Regulation (OLGR).

3. Food Business License: If your hotel offers dining facilities or serves food to guests, you will need a food business license to comply with food safety regulations.

4. Accommodation Permit: Hotels in Queensland are required to hold an accommodation permit, which is issued by the local council or regulatory authority. This permit ensures compliance with specific standards and regulations for accommodation services.

5. Building and Fire Safety Approvals: Established hotels must comply with building and fire safety regulations. This may involve obtaining fire safety approval, electrical safety certificates, and ensuring compliance with disability access standards.

6. Workplace Health and Safety (WHS) Requirements: Hotels must comply with workplace health and safety regulations to ensure the safety and wellbeing of staff and guests. This may include meeting specific standards, obtaining relevant certifications, and conducting regular inspections.

7. Environmental Permits: Depending on the hotel’s activities and location, environmental permits may be required for issues such as waste management, water usage, and environmental protection.

8. Entertainment License: If your hotel hosts live entertainment events, you may need an entertainment license to comply with regulations related to noise control and public safety.

9. Music License: If you play copyrighted music in public areas of your hotel, you will need a music license from the Phonographic Performance Company of Australia (PPCA) or the Australasian Performing Right Association (APRA).

It’s 9, according to AI. Only 43 to go.

MatrixTransform
May 28, 2023 11:16 pm

Elon Musk has a materials science degree from Stanford

and you have a B Comm … you idiot

MatrixTransform
May 28, 2023 11:18 pm

I’ll tell you what JC

you refrain from taking gratuitous pot-shots at people
and I’ll refrain from humiliating you.

deal bitch?

JC
JC
May 28, 2023 11:18 pm

MatrixTransform says:
May 28, 2023 at 11:16 pm

Elon Musk has a materials science degree from Stanford

and you have a B Comm … you idiot

I know, it’s embarrassing for him.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Sal… who is running the joint- you, or that d*ckhead ringmaster?

Not following you Wally?
I’m not Ashton’s, I’m a country pub.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
May 28, 2023 11:20 pm

At one cafe we frequented, one arsehole was lording it a bit, and so the fairly frail seventy-y-o proprietor simply stood alongside his chair with one open hand pointing out the door, for what felt like an hour, but was probably ten minutes. Excruciating, and i have no idea what the crux was that kicked it all off because they were all French, but the gent was not going to let any young turk tell him how to run his restaurant.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
May 28, 2023 11:23 pm

Of course I’ve got no skin in any game, so fair enough if you feel like I’m a sidelines urger… but immodest grandstanding pisses me off. I suppose the old days of discretion are gone.
…if I find out your joint has one of those hanging bells to ring when a tip comes in, though…

JC
JC
May 28, 2023 11:25 pm

MatrixTransform says:
May 28, 2023 at 11:18 pm

I’ll tell you what JC

you refrain from taking gratuitous pot-shots at people
and I’ll refrain from humiliating you.

deal bitch?

Oh okay, that sounds like a great deal. Let me think it over. Just a thought, isn’t it the other way around? Isn’t it you who contributes nothing to this site other than lame comments and stoushes with people? Therefore shouldn’t you be putting that proposition to yourself, you moron?

MatrixTransform
May 28, 2023 11:29 pm

suit yourself

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
May 28, 2023 11:31 pm

The Westfarmers boss seems to be not that popular based on comments under the Oz article. What a self opinionated jerk

Not done his brand much good.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
May 28, 2023 11:31 pm

UC Berkley @4:44 all black graduation ceremony. I reckon none of them have heard of Thomas Sowell … that goes for a lot of whiteys, too. He’s in his 90’s now so keeping out of the public eye is his right. He has enough published material in the public domain to counter this BS!

How ironic that segregation is back and applauded.

———

Mark Dice:

Ultra Liberal Has Amazing Revelation

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

oic, yair. Wally I nearly told the bitch to stfu, had a helluva job keeping my tongue. She’s paying $660 per night for a dozen rooms tonight, & has booked 570 rooms between now & the end of winter.
That sorta keeps me from telling her what I really think.
However I’ll be on the phone to her boss in the morning, to get my story in first & bestest.

I’ve arranged for someone who’s fast with an abrasive retort to be at the front desk in the morning when the bitch checks out.

JC
JC
May 28, 2023 11:36 pm

A couple of conversations this evening reminds me of this.

Fredo

Bruce in WA
May 28, 2023 11:40 pm

Compare driving front wheel to a rear wheel drive on a road packed with snow. Front wheel will suddenly not appear so inferior.

My brother-in-law when living in Maine (where it snows a bit) would always take the RWD Suzuki Samurai in preference to his FWD Chevvy.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
May 28, 2023 11:40 pm

Mutts of the week…
Not really pushing the boat out too far, just hairy whippets really, but a bit tougher and shaggier. Should avoid the breed weakness of bad teeth.
Had a chat to the bird selling, she’s lovely farm girl… I’ll see what transport options look like in the morning.

Bruce in WA
May 28, 2023 11:44 pm

My brother had a medical incident today which made me suddenly realise my “black dog” could be seen as self-indulgence. So, as much as I can without any pharmaceutical or otherwise assistance, I’m back! (Fragile but back!) Just give me a bit of space, OK?

MatrixTransform
May 28, 2023 11:48 pm

hah!
just survived another earthquake

rosie
rosie
May 28, 2023 11:48 pm

Finally had the earthquake experience!
Thanks dutchnosense.

Razey
Razey
May 28, 2023 11:49 pm

Fark. 4.7

JC
JC
May 28, 2023 11:51 pm

Was that what it was? I went outside and next door to find out if they felt it and they were asleep. I thought the house was about to come down.

JC
JC
May 28, 2023 11:57 pm

Shit, I just combed through the news and there was another earthquake in Melbourne 2 weeks ago.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
May 28, 2023 11:59 pm

The young bloke behind all this is a JET. He’s since turned 18.

Go look up Backrooms on his channel from the start of the series. Creepy and freaky sh*t that has since been copied.

Meanwhile, check this out. No subtitles ( German )

This A.O.T is all new to me.

———–

Kane Pixels:

Attack on Titan – Declaration of War [Historical Footage]

JC
JC
May 29, 2023 12:02 am

Bruce

Front wheel drive may be better in snow conditions because the front end takes the weight of the engine and supposedly can offer better traction. Perhaps it may also depend on the car.

I’ve had really bad experiences with rear wheel drive in snow.

Nelson_Kidd-Players
May 29, 2023 12:04 am
Arky
May 29, 2023 12:14 am

Robert Stevenson, who designed a third of the English railroads and whose design for the Rocket inspired 150 years of locomotive designs, ex apprentice:

George could have afforded to send his son to a full degree course at Cambridge but agreed to a short academic year as he wished that Robert should not become a gentleman but should work for his living.

..
I love that line: he wanted his son to work for his living.
Even back then, practical folks who made real things understood that university degrees were mostly bullshit.
Then we could remember John Moses Browning, the son of a blacksmith, who designed most of the rifle configurations used to this day. Learnt his craft at his Daddy’s side.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
May 29, 2023 12:14 am

Razeysays:
May 28, 2023 at 11:49 pm
Fark. 4.7

Nope, 3.8 Geo -Australia – 3.6 USBS.

No biggie.

JC
JC
May 29, 2023 12:38 am

Why would I need to having never said that all crafts require high intelligence?

Perhaps you can explain this then.

dover0beach says:
May 28, 2023 at 9:21 pm

There’s nothing a tradie does that’s super-intelligent. It’s process and discipline.

Probably depends on the craft. Also, I’m not sure the skill required in a craft can be reduced to process and discipline for the reasons Oakeshott and Polanyi have elaborated.

Then

JC, you included surgeons in with the ‘toolies’ so I’m not sure why engineers are excluded.

I brought up surgeons in so far as they belong to guilds in part of a discussion that dealt with closed shops and the impact guilds have on prices. How else did you read what I said?

Just think of what goes into learning any task. Even reading a recipe correctly requires background knowledge about simpler task that are just assumed at higher levels of mastery, also elements that are hard if not impossible to put into words, which is why it is so much easier to learn how to cook X by watching someone do it than to read a recipe.

Okay, but what’s your point.

Let me elaborate a little further on the subject. I wasn’t suggesting individual toolies are smart or dumb. They could be very smart, but for the most part a lot of what they do doesn’t require exceeding smarts.

Arky
May 29, 2023 12:39 am

Perhaps the greatest engineer of all time, the man responsible for the invention of the modern assembly line, and thus for much of modernity, Henry Ford, started out as an apprentice machinist.

JC
JC
May 29, 2023 12:43 am

Great, let’s bring up one of two famous figures who started at the bottom rungs and made their way up the ladder. From this the obvious logical conclusion by Leadership is that all toolies are geniuses and they can easily invent things just like the Wright brothers.

Moreover, who exactly is preventing the next Wright brothers from inventing the next level plane?

JC
JC
May 29, 2023 12:46 am

And all machinists are Henry Ford. All fitter and turners can easily make the next level Concorde. This is an easily derived logical conclusion.

Alamak!
Alamak!
May 29, 2023 1:28 am

… The clash was like two bald men fighting over a comb.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
May 29, 2023 3:44 am

EaRthQuaKe!!!
Royal Doulton in smithereens.
Pity.
Bought it when we traveled to England first class with Cunard back in 1962.
Why didn’t Dutchysense warn us?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
May 29, 2023 3:58 am

I note the earthquake was nowhere near Caulfield or St Kilda East.
This has all the hallmarks of a Mossad operation.
I mean, who else could it be?

Tom
Tom
May 29, 2023 4:00 am

Johannes Leak. Brilliant.

Tom
Tom
May 29, 2023 4:01 am
Tom
Tom
May 29, 2023 4:03 am
Tom
Tom
May 29, 2023 4:04 am
Tom
Tom
May 29, 2023 4:05 am
Tom
Tom
May 29, 2023 4:07 am

Bob Moran. More here.

Tom
Tom
May 29, 2023 4:08 am
Tom
Tom
May 29, 2023 4:09 am
Tom
Tom
May 29, 2023 4:10 am
Tom
Tom
May 29, 2023 4:11 am
Tom
Tom
May 29, 2023 4:13 am
Tom
Tom
May 29, 2023 4:14 am
Tom
Tom
May 29, 2023 4:15 am
Tom
Tom
May 29, 2023 4:16 am
JC
JC
May 29, 2023 6:13 am

Sancho Panzer says:
May 29, 2023 at 3:58 am
I note the earthquake was nowhere near Caulfield or St Kilda East.
This has all the hallmarks of a Mossad operation.
I mean, who else could it be?

Indians is my bet.

Win
Win
May 29, 2023 6:18 am

The rotten apple in Queensland Health apart from the bureaucracy is the Ambulance and their alternative doctors from the ones on the phone to to those who put cannulas in children to help the doctors ain ED and fail are incompetent.
When the QLD. government have to get their mouth pieces to tell us not to take patients to ED but call the service as they did last week ,it must be presumed a lot of Queenslanders think the Ambulance personnel are a direct threat to life.

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
May 29, 2023 6:28 am

Playing Cat CATch-up and losing but saw Cassie’s Callic Somment at 9:45am yesterday. Perhaps we could have a Cassie’s Classic Comment thread — thank you Cassie, so eloquent and comprehensive.

calli
calli
May 29, 2023 6:45 am

Leak nails it!

As for your Royal Doulton figurine, Sancho…would you like me to find a replacement next month? Was it that horrible old lady with the balloons?

I’ll have you know I’m flying to the UK BC and doing Cunard to Iceland with an upper level Balcony Upgrade!

Envy me, serfs! 😀

calli
calli
May 29, 2023 6:50 am

Lots of tradie talk last night. Plenty of apprenticeships around…it’s keeping the buggers that’s difficult. They start, then go onto other things.

I was surprised at the advanced hydrology design in my son’s plumbing course – probably dumbed down these days to keep the certificates flowing. Even in my course I had to do some of it for wetland and drainage design. Don’t know about carpentry these days, most stuff is pre-fab these days, but some frames are site cut. You still have to learn it even if you don’t use it.

Pretty sure the only restrictions on numbers are at TAFE. You can only fit so many bums on seats. And getting teachers might be a problem too.

calli
calli
May 29, 2023 6:57 am

I’ll add another “these days” on account of insufficient coffee for proof reading. Can’t have too many repetitions.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
May 29, 2023 7:01 am

Thanks Tom. Moran is something else. Brilliant art work plus brilliant commentary. He does some loathesome politicians just as they are.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
May 29, 2023 7:06 am

There’s a giggleworthy piece in the Hun this morning creatively headlined:

Six months on: Netball’s ‘Nicky Winmar’ moment

This fairly floss sandwich, of course, speaks of Netty Australia strapping on the suicide vest and going KaBlam over what was originally a level of hesitation from indig nettyperson Donnell Wallam to wear a logo relating to bastard mining, and which became a poorly-thought-out virtue flag waving arrangement by the national team.

I am unsure whether the parallel drawn in the headline (and the piece) between that hilarious shitfest and Nicky Winmar was sufficiently thought through. Some discrepancies:

1. Nicky Winmar wasn’t a fringe player, perhaps hoping to retain selection through indigeneity rather than skill and work ethic;
2. Winmar wasn’t dropped due to form shortly afterwards;
3. St.Kilda suddenly didn’t have any money afterwards;
4. St.Kilda wasn’t sponsored by the Victorian Government post-event to prevent the sport’s national collapse; and
5. Winmar was actually racially abused, and had been for some time prior to his moment.

But yeah. Go with ‘Winmar moment’, you unimaginative and incorrect dunderheads.

calli
calli
May 29, 2023 7:08 am

Just read up on that Moran…it’s for the Freds new album.

They have a Twitter page also, and this was on it. Sounds about right.

Razey
Razey
May 29, 2023 7:16 am

Hunchback will be announcing an earthquake tax this morning. This is for our own good and will prevent any future earthquakes.

Dot
Dot
May 29, 2023 7:17 am

Netball is a scam invented by physiotherapists.

“Come play a game worse for your joints than tennis or AFL, but on wet concrete.”

Vicki
Vicki
May 29, 2023 7:30 am

Wow, just watched Warine Mundine totally berate ABC Breakfast TV host re their approach to the Voice & Supreme Court judge Ian Harrison for his intervention in the debate. He didn’t hold back about the prejudice and inverted racism of the ABC. Good for him. Great to see a guest tell the ABC to do their job properly.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
May 29, 2023 7:32 am

1453 – Fall of Constantinople: Ottoman armies under Sultan Mehmed II capture Constantinople after a 53-day siege, ending the Byzantine Empire

Stupid Byzantines. This is what happens when you let the Indians into the pantry.

lotocoti
lotocoti
May 29, 2023 7:33 am
Dot
Dot
May 29, 2023 7:42 am

Has anyone seen the book “When Scotland was Jewish”?

They seem to draw a very long bow on their theory but they back it up with DNA evidence.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
May 29, 2023 7:50 am

For those (at least 7 so far) who may be stalled on my term Grundies because they are not of my rare vintage, here’s a clue for youse all.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
May 29, 2023 7:52 am

In further Netty disaster news, the Collingwood Magpies netty team has folded.
Much anger because they took the gummint money for promoting wimmynses sport a few years ago.
Turns out all those things said by Eddie back then – “synergy”, “broaden supporter base”, “strengthen communidy ties” – turned out to be bullshit.
It lost games and money.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
May 29, 2023 7:55 am

More weaselling from AEMO.
They announced that most of the submissions they received about the VNI West transmission line was either neutral or negative.
That would be 495 against and a few front organisations for the renewable sector loving the idea.
Six weeks was all the time allotted to this process for a proposal that appeared out of the blue in March. Six weeks for a three billion dollar build that crosses over a third of the state.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
May 29, 2023 7:56 am

Leak absolutely nails it this morning.

Thank goodness for the secret ballot.
Some people though will be taken in by the threats and vote Yes to keep them quiet.
And that is an absolute crying shame for it will only make them worse, and bolder.

Min
Min
May 29, 2023 7:58 am

Surprised to hear about the earthquake but then I have been through a real one as I was in Italy when part of the Basillica in Assisi fell down . There were after shocks for the next month . However I did hear a weird noise like wind whooshing and could not work out what it was.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
May 29, 2023 8:01 am

Not a word about the Mossad earthquake connection on the morning news.
Typical.

rosie
rosie
May 29, 2023 8:04 am

It was a real earthquake, just not strong enough to do much damage. 4.7.
I’m not going to be jealous of a being in a bigger one, to be honest.

Eyrie
Eyrie
May 29, 2023 8:05 am

Moreover, who exactly is preventing the next Wright brothers from inventing the next level plane?

The FAA, EASA, CASA and their counterparts in other countries. Read J. Storrs Hall “Where’s my Flying Car”. The bureaucracy is immense and you’ll run out of money before you can sell anything.

Zatara
Zatara
May 29, 2023 8:07 am

Target Store Bomb Threats Sent By Angry Pro-Pride Left-Winger

After several days of telling the media that Target’s stores were under threat from people who objected to their selling LGBTQ+ and satanic merchandise an email that detailed a bomb threat was sent to media outlets… by an LGBTQ+ activist.

Meanwhile: Target has lost over $9 BILLION in value this past week from conservative boycotts.

rosie
rosie
May 29, 2023 8:10 am

Don’t worry Sancho, in ten years time the really smart people will be telling us what really happened.
Red shoes have been pulled on.
Tunnels have been formed.
Mysterious helicopters will appear.

Eyrie
Eyrie
May 29, 2023 8:10 am

Whether you have an engineering degree or not doesn’t determine who is an engineer. Plenty of excellent working engineers have not ever had a degree in engineering or at all.
At Lockheed, see Irv Culver, Harry Coombs.
Musk also doesn’t have an engineering degree but he is Chief Designer of SpaceX.
I used to know people who worked in southern California aerospace (TRW and Northrop) who said their company hiring was very impressed by people who had done things like build a boat, car, small aircraft etc, regardless of their “degree”.

rosie
rosie
May 29, 2023 8:13 am

Target in the US got rid of separate boys and girls clothing sections a few years ago.
Have they brought them back.
I’m surprised they still have separate men’s and women’s sections.

will
will
May 29, 2023 8:27 am

I used to know people who worked in southern California aerospace (TRW and Northrop) who said their company hiring was very impressed by people who had done things like build a boat, car, small aircraft etc, regardless of their “degree”.

building a boat, car, small aircraft is where you learn the difference between the blueprints and what is actually needed to put something together that works

will
will
May 29, 2023 8:27 am

I used to know people who worked in southern California aerospace (TRW and Northrop) who said their company hiring was very impressed by people who had done things like build a boat, car, small aircraft etc, regardless of their “degree”.

building a boat, car, small aircraft is where you learn the difference between the blueprints and what is actually needed to put something together that works

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
May 29, 2023 8:28 am

At one cafe we frequented, one arsehole was lording it a bit, and so the fairly frail seventy-y-o proprietor simply stood alongside his chair with one open hand pointing out the door

At a hotel restaurant in Kalgoorlie, a few years ago, a party of yobs thought it fine sport to reduce the waitress to tears – it was her second night in the job. Someone slipped out to fetch the manager. He walked in, and threw a Domino’s Piazza voucher in the middle of their table. “I don’t want to see you back. I’ve got customers banging on the door to eat here, and it’s difficult enough to find staff. Shut the door on your way out.”

Dot
Dot
May 29, 2023 8:29 am

So wait, I can identify as an engineer and assuage the engineer fetishists here?

Dot
Dot
May 29, 2023 8:32 am

People actually build entirely new cars, not just restore them?

That’s pretty wild.

I want a 10 dot point essay why the Miata/MX5 is actually a bad car seeing how opinionated people are here, you should have no trouble dissuading me from buying one.

I also like the VW Arteon, a new Prado is too pricey.

Dot
Dot
May 29, 2023 8:34 am

If plumbers can understand hydrology why can’t engineers understand the physical chemistry of (usually leaky) hydrogen containment?

Roger
Roger
May 29, 2023 8:39 am

Has anyone seen the book “When Scotland was Jewish”?

They seem to draw a very long bow on their theory but they back it up with DNA evidence.

Och vey!

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
May 29, 2023 8:40 am

Madame Zulu’s medical team is in conference tomorrow, to determine what road she goes down with treatment. We shall see!

Take heart, Zulu, a good female friend of mine, and my brother-in-law, have both received fairly dreadful diagnosis of cancer two years ago, but with treatments they are both now thriving and taking holidays and planning for a long future. They’ve both been through chemo treatments and one has had radiotherapy also and lost all her hair, but cures, or near to, are being announced with new treatments constantly. Much cancer is now considered a chronic illness rather than a death sentence. Bear with whatever is recommended until the sun shines brightly again for you both. It is always a concerning time. Hairy and I went through this with his prostate cancer and then with my suspected ovarian cancer. Both were investigated, my lesions turned out to be benign, his cancer treated with brachytherapy, and on we go. Best of luck to you both.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
May 29, 2023 8:44 am

where you learn the difference between the blueprints and what is actually needed to put something together that works

You should have seen that IKEA installer put together my three big new bookshelves with doors.

Talk about being on top of his job. Up went his portable table, onto it went some side panels, and he was away. So quick and efficient over something that years ago I recall Hairy and I struggling over.

Nothing like calling in the professionals no matter what the job.

Dot
Dot
May 29, 2023 8:46 am

Never get the Billy book case.

Trust me.

Robert Sewell
May 29, 2023 8:46 am

J.C:

1. The Bud-Lite abortion has sent every major corporation in the US that serves the nation scrambling to make sure that shit doesn’t happen to them.

2. ESG has been reversing since about the middle of last year, with investors turning a jaundiced eye to that bullshit.

Crossie:

From what I have read it’s actually the opposite, all these companies are still going full steam ahead and sponsoring the Pride Month activities in the US in all major cities.

The Oracle has spoken and you must not contradict it or you will be called stupid names for the next 5 years.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
May 29, 2023 8:46 am

It’s so quiet around here I’m feeling sleepy. Going to crawl back to bed for an insomniac’s catch up.

The bother is having to email all who were expecting me to do things this morning and cancel out.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
May 29, 2023 8:48 am

Best of luck to you both.

Thank you, LizzieB.

Robert Sewell
May 29, 2023 8:49 am

Lizzie:

lol, in other Hairy news – I have bought him a pair of ugh boots to use as slippers in the coming winter on Thursday, and a fleecy top to wear too, as I worry about him in these cold months. He really dislikes the cold.

Don’t forget the explorer socks if that heel fissure plays up again, Lizzie. Like I told you three years ago.*
*nag, nag, nag.

H B Bear
H B Bear
May 29, 2023 8:51 am

I want a 10 dot point essay why the Miata/MX5 is actually a bad car …

That would be good break out session for the ‘Woomba Helldrivers AGM. A few tickets still available. Don’t forget the hospitality package.

MatrixTransform
May 29, 2023 8:52 am

Never get the Billy book case

try the Havsta, much better

Eyrie
Eyrie
May 29, 2023 8:56 am

So wait, I can identify as an engineer and assuage the engineer fetishists here?

No, you need to design and/or make stuff that works as intended.

P
P
May 29, 2023 8:56 am

Albanese supports ACT Government on Calvary acquisition
29 May 2023
Prime Minister Anthony Albanese has intervened in the increasingly bitter dispute over the ACT Government’s forced acquisition of Calvary Public Hospital Bruce, insisting it is not driven by religion. Source: Canberra Times.

The Labor leader, himself a Catholic, has stepped into the Calvary controversy just ahead of the expected passing of legislation in the Legislative Assembly to allow the Government to compulsorily acquire the hospital by July 3.

Canberra Health Services is expected to start running Calvary from that date.

Roger
Roger
May 29, 2023 8:57 am

I was surprised at the advanced hydrology design in my son’s plumbing course – probably dumbed down these days to keep the certificates flowing. Even in my course I had to do some of it for wetland and drainage design.

Speaking of drainage: England reclaimed; how we became a nation of drainage engineers

Roger
Roger
May 29, 2023 8:58 am

The Labor leader, himself a Catholic…

ROTFLMA.

There’s the problem…right there.

Eyrie
Eyrie
May 29, 2023 8:59 am

People actually build entirely new cars, not just restore them?

There is a kit car industry. Don’t know enough to say about scratch built.
There is also a pretty thriving homebuilt light aircraft industry. Mostly kits with various levels of completed sub assemblies but also from plans and some scratch designed and built. Generally better, faster aircraft than Cessna/Piper/Beechcraft/Cirrus.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
May 29, 2023 9:01 am

The “West Australian” is beating the big drum for a “Yes” vote in the forthcoming referendum about the Voice – Reconciliation is the soul of the nation, a “No” vote will set reconciliation back by decades, blah, blah, blah.

They aren’t allowing comments on any of the articles.

rosie
rosie
May 29, 2023 9:01 am

Albanese is as Catholic as Andrews.

rosie
rosie
May 29, 2023 9:02 am

How does building something using a kit make you an engineer?

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
May 29, 2023 9:03 am

Och vey!

Very good.

H B Bear
H B Bear
May 29, 2023 9:04 am

The Labor leader, himself a Catholic…

He’sa good boy, ma Luigi.

H B Bear
H B Bear
May 29, 2023 9:06 am

The “West Australian” is beating the big drum for a “Yes” vote in the forthcoming referendum about the Voice …

Kerry Stokes making sure those open doors stay open.

Roger
Roger
May 29, 2023 9:07 am

I can see the Catholic bishops sitting on their bunks in a re-education camp a decade hence, muttering with quiet desperation, “If only Anthony knew.”

MatrixTransform
May 29, 2023 9:08 am

How does building something using a kit make you an engineer?

go buy an Arduino and get back to us when you make it useful

H B Bear
H B Bear
May 29, 2023 9:08 am

God has seen enough. Eternal damnation coming to Victoriastan. I told you JC but did you listen?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
May 29, 2023 9:09 am

I was surprised at the advanced hydrology design in my son’s plumbing course – probably dumbed down these days to keep the certificates flowing.

Assignment work, open book, multiple repeats of failed modules.
Every child wins a prize.
Most plumbers work off rules of thumb and probably don’t know or remember the physics behind the rules.

areff
areff
May 29, 2023 9:12 am

a new Prado is too pricey

Check out the Ssang Yong line, especially the Musso at $38k

https://ssangyong.com.au/models/musso

I almost bought one about 18 months ago, but in the end decided my Mitsubishi Challenger is still running so well (after 21 years) that I’d be paying mostly for novelty and a new car smell.

Apparently SsangYong has sorted out its bankruptcy woes and will be around for a while yet.

Robert Sewell
May 29, 2023 9:12 am

ZK2A:

Uncommonly well said, Cassie. It’s been many years since I watched Derek Jacobi as the Emperor Claudius on the A.B.C. I think the last show I watched was “The Bill.”

The ABC went to shit when James Dibble retired.
That’s when I stopped watching it.
🙂

P
P
May 29, 2023 9:15 am

Calvary on the cross
Now the left is coming after our church hospitals
Kevin Andrews – Spectator Australia -27 May 2023

The 120-year lease to Calvary still has 76 years to run. The government’s initial refusal to articulate a case for its proposed actions reveals how flimsy it is. It can more easily acquire the land than in the states because all property in the ACT is leased from the government and not owned as freehold title. It had sought last year to reduce the lease to 25 years, and then abruptly ended discussions. The belated claim that this is about providing a single network of healthcare ignores the fact that in many other places multiple providers cooperate to that end.

The belief that this proposal is about abortion – and euthanasia, which the ACT plans to introduce – is well-founded. Is the next institution to be acquired Clare Holland House, the praised palliative care service also operated by Calvary?

This is not a Catholic issue, nor even a Christian one. If the ACT government can acquire a well-functioning, viable hospital that is providing first-rate healthcare to the populace, what else can it acquire? Independent schools? Clubs with pokies? Greyhound and horse racing tracks? The premises of organisations that oppose its political views? This is a dangerous precedent which should be resisted by everyone who values the freedoms and toleration that our polity is built upon.

When ongoing respectful discussions about how we can live together and appropriate compromises are trumped by government dictates, authoritarianism has truly arrived.

Robert Sewell
May 29, 2023 9:19 am

ZK2A:

Bring on the blasted referendum, the sooner the better.

Is there a time frame for this pile of dung, or is it going to be a perpetual pebble in the shoe, designed to annoy most of Australia?

Indolent
Indolent
May 29, 2023 9:20 am

No through shortage of top end of the town funding.

Ron DeSantis’s Copycat Strategy Is Failing

Indolent
Indolent
May 29, 2023 9:21 am
Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

At one cafe we frequented, one arsehole was lording it a bit, and so the fairly frail seventy-y-o proprietor simply stood alongside his chair with one open hand pointing out the door

At a hotel restaurant in Kalgoorlie, a few years ago, a party of yobs thought it fine sport to reduce the waitress to tears – it was her second night in the job. Someone slipped out to fetch the manager. He walked in, and threw a Domino’s Piazza voucher in the middle of their table. “I don’t want to see you back. I’ve got customers banging on the door to eat here, and it’s difficult enough to find staff. Shut the door on your way out.”

Corporates are generally the worst guests you can have.
They feel a suit & a high (in their opinion) income give them a free pass to insult staff & misbehave.
When they become insulting, my colleague across town (who has plenty of corporates) takes great delight in telling them dinner is off – for them – and to immediately settle their bill & get off his property, he actually tells them where on the lawn the boundary is.

Most of them have never in their life been told “No” by a hospitality venue & don’t take the loss of face very well. They’ve been told, in their own supercilious white collar language, that neither them, nor their money, nor their repeat custom are wanted, & that a business operator believes he’ll actually be better off without them.

A very insulting concept, which most corporates grasp.

H B Bear
H B Bear
May 29, 2023 9:22 am

Most plumbers work off rules of thumb and probably don’t know or remember the physics behind the rules.

True of most things – I can make money at X, I will go broke at Y. Seems simple until you have a go yourself. We made a reasonable living out of just this fact.

Indolent
Indolent
May 29, 2023 9:22 am
H B Bear
H B Bear
May 29, 2023 9:27 am

In devastating news for Breakfast TV fans, Kochie has pulled the pin. Questions are already being asked about the Cash Cow’s role in all this.

Robert Sewell
May 29, 2023 9:28 am

Dot:

Good lord some of this is pure protectionism and the rules make zero sense.

I want to put in a fireplace. Has to be done by a plumber and a builder.
Why?
The chimney – a 6″ pipe – goes through the roof.
Perhaps I should put it through an exterior wall…

Roger
Roger
May 29, 2023 9:31 am

The new bastion of freedom.

Cuban immigrants are joining the Russian army to fight in Ukraine in exchange for citizenship, a report says

A better standard of squalor in Russia, to be sure, but perhaps not as much cheer as Cuba.

H B Bear
H B Bear
May 29, 2023 9:31 am

Elsewhere Teh Paywallian Media Diary column reports Paramount and Channel 10 opt to keep Mrs Pirate Pete on ice till 2024. I hope this doesn’t mean the Pirate won’t have a book out for Christmas.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
May 29, 2023 9:35 am

rosiesays:
May 29, 2023 at 8:04 am
It was a real earthquake, just not strong enough to do much damage. 4.7.
I’m not going to be jealous of a being in a bigger one, to be honest.

Incorrect by a full magnitude.

USGS – M 3.6 – 6 km N of Greenvale, Australia 3.6
Geoscience Australia – 3.8.

Nothing unusual for Oz.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
May 29, 2023 9:37 am

The “West Australian” is beating the big drum for a “Yes” vote in the forthcoming referendum about the Voice – Reconciliation is the soul of the nation, a “No” vote will set reconciliation back by decades, blah, blah, blah.

They aren’t allowing comments on any of the articles.

So not only are people indignant when they read the article, but they are not given a chance to react. This will probably solidify the ‘No’ vote in those people’s minds.

Quite apart from the fact they have decided they had better now allow comments in the first place.

It is weird though – we now expect to be able to state our objections on the same page we read something. Unimaginable before the intertubes weaned us off dead-tree newspapers.

Robert Sewell
May 29, 2023 9:39 am

Black Ball:

Watching something on Jonestown. FMD what a horrific event.

Cults. Something the 20thC perfected.
Jonestown is nothing compared to what the Green Cult will do or Communism did.

H B Bear
H B Bear
May 29, 2023 9:41 am

Surgeons are a little precious. I found out when I brought my own PEG to replace the one that had fallen out. It wasn’t really appreciated and I got the Department of Health one that we use in a modified form to this day. Nurses aren’t much different. As I went home with a shaved stomach that took weeks to regain its natural ursine hairy form.

Miltonf
Miltonf
May 29, 2023 9:48 am

I know PhDs who are as dumb as dogshit for whom conversation is regurgitating Marxist slogans like ‘grazing ruined this country’.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
May 29, 2023 9:49 am

The “West Australian”.

Only useful for starting campfires. Watching the front page ( 3 quarters of it commonly being a Harvey Norman add ) is relaxing to watch.

Robert Sewell
May 29, 2023 9:50 am

Salvatore:

I could be wrong, however I’ve a feeling there could be a bit more to anaesthesia than simply holding a chloroform-soaked hankie over the patient’s face.

There is, but the Oracle of Wall Street saw a youtube video that put it on the right track.

Dot
Dot
May 29, 2023 9:51 am

I know PhDs who are as dumb as dogshit for whom conversation is regurgitating Marxist slogans like ‘grazing ruined this country’.

Some of them are engineers, or identify as engineers too.

Miltonf
Miltonf
May 29, 2023 9:52 am

Better than identifying as or being an economist.

mem
mem
May 29, 2023 9:53 am

Re Jonestown. It is amazing how many names still pop up today.
“A roster of leaders who remain dominant figures in California politics today embraced Jones publically. Jerry Brown, then and now governor of the state, approvingly visited the Peoples Temple, and Senator Dianne Feinstein, who ascended to the mayoralty upon Moscone’s assassination, joined the Board of Supervisors in honoring Jones. Willie Brown, longtime speaker of the California state assembly, a mayor of San Francisco, and the mentor of Senator Kamala Harris, was especially lavish in his praise of Jones, calling him “a combination of Martin Luther King, Jr., Angela Davis, Albert Einstein, and Chairman Mao.””
https://www.city-journal.org/article/jim-jones-made-in-san-francisco

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
May 29, 2023 9:54 am

The 1967 referendum was powerfully symbolic, a moment of national idealism. In that year, 90 per cent of Australians voted to remove a harmful, discriminatory relic. In 2023, our generation can go one better.

Words of wisdom, from Albo.

H B Bear
H B Bear
May 29, 2023 9:55 am

WA Newspapers was a great share back in the day. Threw off wads of cash and by and large returned to shareholders. Pretty much all downhill after Kerry Stokes came on board. Not all entirely his fault but it didn’t help.

Cassie of Sydney
May 29, 2023 9:55 am

“A better standard of squalor in Russia, to be sure, but perhaps not as much cheer as Cuba.”

Worse than the squalor and crime in San Francisco, Portland and other blue cities in the US?

Jorge
Jorge
May 29, 2023 9:56 am

Wasn’t half the front page today supposed to be in ‘language’ ?

I’ll give ‘em language.

Roger
Roger
May 29, 2023 9:58 am

The 1967 referendum was powerfully symbolic, a moment of national idealism.

And it’s been largely downhill since (thanks Nugget…Gough).

It couldn’t really have been worse if we’d left aboriginal affairs exclusively in the hands of the states. Aboriginal people themselves would have had one less level of government to navigate through.

mem
mem
May 29, 2023 9:59 am

The 1967 referendum was powerfully symbolic, a moment of national idealism. In that year, 90 per cent of Australians voted to remove a harmful, discriminatory relic.
And the current Labor Party now want to insert racial division back into the constitution. Never forget that it was the Labor Party that introduced the White Australia Policy.

H B Bear
H B Bear
May 29, 2023 9:59 am

I could be wrong, however I’ve a feeling there could be a bit more to anaesthesia than simply holding a chloroform-soaked hankie over the patient’s face.

Finally one for Groogs!

MatrixTransform
May 29, 2023 10:00 am

Most plumbers work off rules of thumb and probably don’t know or remember the physics behind the rules.

and ‘most’ rocket-scientists are at the pointy end of their expertise

give us all another lecture on gas-liquid mixtures

H B Bear
H B Bear
May 29, 2023 10:01 am

Words of wisdom, from Albo.

It the vibe, Man. Just go with it.

Roger
Roger
May 29, 2023 10:02 am

Worse than the squalor and crime in San Francisco, Portland and other blue cities in the US?

Best ask a Cuban….they don’t appear to be that fussy for some reason.

Robert Sewell
May 29, 2023 10:04 am

Matrix Transform:

I love it when sancho tries to sound all authoritative and technical
like today when he dodged the whole vapour-pressure thing and Bernoulli to explain where your petrol went as you open the fuel tank on your car

Yes, I just rolled my eyes and went back to the whole point that 1 in 20 fuel bowsers underdelivered fuel.
Then I decided it just wasn’t worthwhile pointing out that the Class Clown had just made my point about bowsers, and deleted the reply.
Never argue with idiots because they’ll always drag you down to their level…etc…

Miltonf
Miltonf
May 29, 2023 10:06 am

Yes the filth in us blue cities seems to be worse than anything I saw in Asia. I’ve seen San Pedro Street in LA.

Zipster
Zipster
May 29, 2023 10:06 am

China’s counterfeiting model beats Amazon, plus super low prices/Chinese people are the real victims

China Insights

The latest decision by the American multinational e-commerce giant Amazon once again highlights the many regulatory, market environment, and local competition challenges that foreign tech giants face in the Chinese market.
Can Temu and Shein from China really succeed in their challenge to Amazon with this money-burning model? We’ll wait and see.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
May 29, 2023 10:07 am

H B Bearsays:

May 29, 2023 at 9:27 am

In devastating news for Breakfast TV fans, Kochie has pulled the pin. Questions are already being asked about the Cash Cow’s role in all this.

Can we expect compromising photos of Kochie and Cash Cow to appear in the Daily Mail in coming days.

H B Bear
H B Bear
May 29, 2023 10:07 am

Best ask a Cuban….they don’t appear to be that fussy for some reason.

Voting with their inner tubes.

H B Bear
H B Bear
May 29, 2023 10:10 am

Can we expect compromising photos of Kochie and Cash Cow to appear in the Daily Mail in coming days.

Kochie is too old for that stuff. Leave that to Karl and the in-laws.

Roger
Roger
May 29, 2023 10:14 am

Can Temu and Shein from China really succeed in their challenge to Amazon with this money-burning model? We’ll wait and see.

I’m getting ads from Temu in my inbox.

The prices are extraordinarily low (like thequality?).

The expansion into Western markets must be costing them a fortune, which makes me think the online retail sector in China must be in dire straits.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
May 29, 2023 10:15 am

The chimney – a 6? pipe – goes through the roof.

That is not a chimney.
It’s a flue.
Please don’t join in if you can’t get the terminology right.

Perhaps I should put it through an exterior wall…

It will still need flashing (or edge sealing of some sort).
And good luck getting a decent draw out of that if you don’t extend it above the roofline.
This is why I said yesterday that professionals hate dealing with “gifted amateurs”. They don’t mind answering sensible questions or even taking suggestions, but they hate interminable questioning from numpties trying to solve a non-existent problem.
A good roof plumber will have that flashed in an hour or two.
The worst thing is a builder who will say, “Yeah, we can do that, mate …” and then under is breath “… but your fireplace won’t fkn work.”

rosie
rosie
May 29, 2023 10:18 am

Now I’m certain assembling a kit using an instruction manual doesn’t make you an engineer.

H B Bear
H B Bear
May 29, 2023 10:23 am

The worst thing is a builder who will say, “Yeah, we can do that, mate …” and then under is breath “… but your fireplace won’t fkn work.”

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