
Open Thread – Tues 30 May 2023

2,102 responses to “Open Thread – Tues 30 May 2023”
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Bern.
It’s like the French at Gallipoli.
Up until about 10 years ago, I didn’t even know they were there, let alone about their sacrifice.Worst thing was the naval campaign should have worked.
Would have shortened the war by 2 years.Try this little factoid..
The minesweepers the whole plan depended on were all civilian crewed trawlers, some of which bolted on bits of steel plate for protection.
NONE were lost during the first purely naval attempts to force the straight and casualties were almost none among the crews.
The Grand Vizier had his car packed, the treasury was being moved and Constantinople was in a panic.
The Greeks offered to have a run through to unseat the Turks (but that was vetoed by the Russians, who wanted the glory of reclaiming Byzantium).Bouvet has some footage of it going down, under 30 seconds from hitting a mine to hitting the bottom.
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81 years today since the midget submarine raid on Sydney Harbour, and still the commanders of the small ships that sunk two out of three of the attackers are unrewarded. Meanwhile the two senior commanders of the night got away with their incompetence.
They probably had a beer afterwards so are no longer eligible for awards anyway.
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Cassie of Sydney says:
May 31, 2023 at 11:39 am“The New Culture Forum”
I am a paid up member, they do stellar stuff.They have a terrific channel on YouTube and are involved in the battle against the forces of leftism and wokeness with all their attendant insanity. The speakers are highly articulate and very well informed. It’s a pleasure to watch and makes you realise how much we badly need an equivalent organisation in this country.
One of the best things to see in some NCF videos is the participation of younger people who have managed to escape the indoctrination of the left.
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and Remember most the Revolutionaries were the start of the Left. (as they sat on the left side of the hall). The Right initially supported much of the change, reflected the Aristocracy and the Monarchy supporters.
Am only half way thru the book , am up to early 1793, but I understand soonish.. if you were not a Revolutionary…wholeheartedly, the Terror awaits which includes the guillotine.
Poor old Louis has just lost he head. His behaviour reminded me of Turnbull. Said one thing, meant something else, tried to run away, doing back room deals with enemies, left enough of a mess and paper trail to convict him. Whilst most the right wanted to support a Monarchy, they found it hard to support Louis.
..oh and the left changed the constitution, after 3 years so they could try and execute Louis. Previously he was exempted and protected by the Revolutionary constitution. So the Left do have history in changing constitutions to suit. As Mark Steyn pointed out, in the public library, the French Constitution is filed under ‘Periodicals’. LOL.
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It’s hard for me to conclude that attitudes to pornography, for instance, “stems from regulation, punishment, information control, coersion , corrupted judicial systems, and perverted contempt for societal norms” when they are in fact the societal norm.
I’m just old enough to remember when consumers of pornography were regarded by normal people as perverts. It’s quite a revolutionary change within one lifetime.
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has described himself as a “right-wing Christian conservative”
Looks and sounds every inch like one. Not. Pretty clearly a feral though. I wonder if he rides a Harley?
Menacing videos emerge of an accused stalker taunting ABC TV host Stan Grant before he stood down from Q&A: ‘I’m going to beat the living s*** out of you’ (Daily Mail, 31 May)
‘Police commenced an investigation into the incident,’ she said. ‘Following inquires, police arrested a 41-year-old man in Fairfield Heights at 6.40pm [on May 24].
Shatterzzz’s stamping ground!
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DrBeauGansays:
May 31, 2023 at 1:38 pm
Man, I just booked (hey, I had no choice) a welcome to country for a conference I’m planning… $1,000!!!!….for 15 minutes…
Tell him/her/it they’ve got five seconds to do it and they get paid pro rata
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Children’s Health Defense
@ChildrensHDDr. Malone: Psychological Warfare on the Civilian Population ‘Must Never Happen Again’
“Crimes were committed,” attested mRNA pioneer Dr.
@RWMaloneMD
. “Psychological technology was weaponized against the public, and this must never happen again.”“This is one of the things that I feel most strongly about,” he continued, “is [that] somehow we need legislation that makes it clear that deploying fifth-generation-warfare technology, PSYOPs … on civilian populations is absolutely not acceptable.
“The idea of personal autonomy, of the ability of an individual to have personal sovereignty, is completely negated in a world in which governments feel that it’s acceptable to deploy modern PSYOPs technology on their own populations.”
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MASSIVE increase in young people having STROKES
Dr. Suneel Dhand -
Thanks Mac Siccar for posting this link. Great letter to Campbell – whoever wrote it – TOPS!!!
I have posted a comment on the matter at www. michaelsmithnews.com & suggest that others do.
Will try to get letter to the Oz as this matter festers and explodes in the media – but I doubt if they would publish what I would have to say. They have done so in the past, on this matter, but I feel in my bones that Editorial policy is changing.
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Fairfield Heights, the hub of Christianity and conservatism in Sydney.
be pretty close pass any of the ethnic christian churches out here on a Saturday/Sunday when they are finishing up and they are out on the footpath and there are several dozens of folk congregating and there’s no shortage of these churches around here ……
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Gilas
Why are you responding to a lowrent fraud like Driller?He runs a rundown motel in the middle of shitcreek.
And you ought to read the reviews.Also, regarding your school days. I damn hope you fought back. I was suspended a couple of times for getting into scrapes like those you mentioned. One doofus was pretending he was concussed to get me into trouble. My parents were exasperated.
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A man accused of making threats to former ABC presenter Stan Grant and his family has described himself as a “right-wing Christian conservative”, posting his alleged threats via video on social media.
The police brief of evidence shows a beer coaster from the Halls Gap pub was found in the passenger footwell of his car.
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Probably a comment of very niche interest but…
I just watched an examination of the annihilation of historical fact that is the Netflix series Cleopatra. Its infamy goes far further than I had ever dared to suspect.
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purely for self defence you understand…
U.S. Major General: “China’s Military Buildup Is Astonishing” | WSJ
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“news that will reverberate around the world” is coming tomorrow?
Would that be the planned release of the verdict in the BR Smith defamation suit?
Ben Roberts-Smith war crimes defamation verdict to be delivered on Thursday 1 June -
JC says:
May 31, 2023 at 2:47 pmWhy are you responding to a lowrent fraud like Driller?He runs a rundown motel in the middle of shitcreek.
And you ought to read the reviews.I don’t take sides in Cat stoushes. All posts duly credited to their poster.
In my Universe, there’s some good in all of us (Montz and Eddles excepted).Also, regarding your school days. I damn hope you fought back. I was suspended a couple of times for getting into scrapes like those you mentioned. One doofus was pretending he was concussed to get me into trouble. My parents were exasperated.
This was Sydney’s West and I was badly outnumbered. Talking back rather than fighting was more productive, and avoided the ever-present cane.
Coming from Northern Italy, I was faced with a novel type of adolescent: a less civilised, more primitive human. Quite the revelation.
These racists were essentially unreconstructed, ignorant cretins who left after Yr 10. The ones left were all sons of immigrants and did well in the HSC.. here was our ultimate victory. -
Glad you mentioned the gate at the station, Rugbyskier. There is also a fun modern fountain there – from memory it’s a clock as well.
Yes, I have seen the fountain that calli mentioned. It has bubbling water forming words and numbers, alternating between ‘Kanazawa’ in romaji, ‘??’ which is Kanazawa in kanji, and the current time.
For the gardening fans, the three parks that are ‘the most beautiful gardens in Japan’ are Kenrokuen in Kanazawa, Korakuen in Okayama and Kairakuen in Mito.
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@ Robert Sewell:
“If it’s not XXXX Bitter, it’s not beer.”
XXXX before Bond/Swan and Lion Nathan; or after?
Coopers Draught, from the keg is a MUCH more satisfactory drop.
But, in my dotage, I mainly drink a reasonable Merlot or Cab Sav to wash down a decent pasta or a lamb chop and veg..
The traditional Queensland “Bundy and Coke” is out of my price range these days.
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US issued war crime warning over SAS troops
Defence chief drops senate bombshell, revealing the US government warned allegations of war crimes against Australian soldiers could prevent the country’s armed forces working toge…
JESS MALCOLMJust appeared. Campbell is preparing for the pushback by invoking the alleged US outrage over our alleged transgressions. I bet he doesn’t mention that other countries involved in the Afghan debacle – including the US – have been dealing with retrospective allegations of war crimes by the usual suspects.
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Top Endersays:
May 31, 2023 at 9:28 am
The new Chris Dawson trial is receiving massive coverage in the Oz. Latest headline: Chris Dawson trial: Sex with students evidence – one twin teaching, the other out back
One interesting aspect might be that Dawson’s twin therefore gets arrested…
There have been suggestions that Dawson may have had an accomplice, at least after the murder.
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But there’s a fairly strong link between older dads and autism.
You need to put down the feminist Kool-Aid.
It’s older mothers. (Which to some extent is colinear/cointegrated with older fathers).
How often was autism in kids with older dads reported before the 1970s?
Did Henry Parke’s children from his second marriage have autism at all? No?
His oldest child was the NSW Chief Architect during WWII.
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Feminism, dot ?
How do we know that older men have elevated odds of fathering a child with autism?
Epidemiologists have gathered data on large numbers of families and calculated how often men of different ages have a child with autism. The first rigorous study of this type, published in 2006, drew on medical records of 132,000 Israeli adolescents. It showed that men in their 30s are 1.6 times as likely to have a child with autism as men under 30; men in their 40s have a sixfold increase.Since then, scientists have conducted similar analyses of data on children born in California, Denmark and Sweden, as well as of an international dataset on 5.7 million children. Nearly all of this research has shown an increased prevalence of autism among the children of older fathers.
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The first rigorous study of this type, published in 2006, drew on medical records of 132,000 Israeli adolescents. It showed that men in their 30s are 1.6 times as likely to have a child with autism as men under 30; men in their 40s have a sixfold increase.
Now let’s look at the data on mothers and fathers with similarly aged wives.
You have no control variables and no methodology to deal with blocking variables or non-linear dynamics.
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Andrew Rule and Mark Butler:
The Rolf Harris pile-on shows no sign of slowing down. Memories have obviously started to improve now he’s dead, which is fair enough, given defamation laws that protect reptiles while they are alive.
Latest in the queue of fresh accusers is former British weather presenter Ulrika Jonsson, who reveals that Harris groped her when she was launching her career in her early 20s, some 30 years ago.
The truth is that Harris’s predatory ways were notorious for a long time in “the business”, as the people in it call everything from acting to rock-n-roll, radio, television and theatre.
Insiders at radio 3AW clearly recall the day the late Ernie Sigley did a relentlessly cheery telephone interview with Harris back in the 1990s.
The two old stagers were chockablock full of showbiz bonhomie and banter. How they laughed! At the end, Ernie smiled into the mic and did the compulsory showbiz farewell, complete with “Luv ya, mate” or some such bogus bit of business.
As soon as Harris was off the line, Sigley threw to an ad break, leaned back in his chair, stared at his producer and panel operator, rolled his eyes and grunted one word.
“Paedophile.”
In other words, Harris’s behaviour was an open secret for a long time before the law pinched him in 2013. Which makes you wonder how many people knew the truth about others, such as evil Jimmy Savile in the UK and cunning television producer Gavan Disney in Australia.
Disney never got near the heroically long tally of perverted offences that the spooky Sir James Wilson Vincent Savile did. But there were murmurs about Disney’s creepy ways with teenage work experience boys before he was charged (and acquitted) of sexual assault with a 17-year-old assistant at Ballarat.
This all reminds us of the old-style television producer some people in showbiz and media circles affectionately know as “Dirty Doug” — or was it Dave?
Regardless of his name, he was involved in casting a lot of dramas.
Whether or not a couch was involved in some instances will probably be revealed when the old varmint checks out. A string of female actors will be free to come forward then.
Surely if Sigley knew like others apparently, they could have stepped forward and prevented others from being molested by reporting Harris?
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John Ruddick NSW MLC (LDP) is already doing great work.
Excess deaths in recent years – John Ruddick MLC calls on the govt to investigate
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Rogersays:
May 31, 2023 at 1:33 pm
I’m just old enough to remember when consumers of pornography were regarded by normal people as perverts. It’s quite a revolutionary change within one lifetime.You must be so old, Roger. Playboy was mainstream in the seventies.
My oldest brother (may he be restless in hell) was a fan of ribald and hustler.
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BB
Surely if Sigley knew like others apparently, they could have stepped forward and prevented others from being molested by reporting Harris?
Don’t hold your breath waiting for Sigley (and others like him) receiving the kind of opprobrium handed out to Cardinal Pell for simply sharing accommodation with Ridsdale, but, like his colleague Paul Bungjourno, being ignorant of Ridsdale’s activities.
Many knew and kept quiet, but they were/are the “right” people, so they are forgiven even without asking. See also Richard Neville.
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Surely if Sigley knew like others apparently, they could have stepped forward and prevented others from being molested by reporting Harris?
Possibly. Lot of after the event revision of events. Pretty much par for the course in media, marketing, advertising … . Don’t like it join the church. Or maybe not. As several have said, learn to deal with it. Does not apply to children of course.
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Gilas
This was Sydney’s West and I was badly outnumbered. Talking back rather than fighting was more productive, and avoided the ever-present cane.
Coming from Northern Italy, I was faced with a novel type of adolescent: a less civilised, more primitive human. Quite the revelation.
These racists were essentially unreconstructed, ignorant cretins who left after Yr 10.LOL. There appear to be quite a few residing here who refer to themselves as engineers now. One’s claims the title of aeronautical engineer and former astronaut. :-)I had a theory, but I’m not sure if it was embedded in Anglo/Australian culture. A lot of those misfits you refer to operated in gangs, in the sense that they were stronger when they had backup. We kind of see it here with the “piler-onners,” and it’s a form of gang mentality with safety in numbers. As a kid, when I singled them out one-on-one for a beating, they were never that tough.
One other thing: you responded to the toxic fraud by giving reasons why folks of Italian heritage weren’t big heroes fighting wars. I take issue with that, and I’ll explain the reason why I reached the opposite conclusion, or at least that they’re as heroic, etc., as anyone else of European descent. It’s not the first time that a toxic worm from the Strait has made reference to Italians being cowardly. I take the approach that anything that the worm says here has to be assumed to be ignorance or simply lying. There were several reasons I think Italy failed miserably in WWII, and thank God it did because it was a horrible regime. But were they cowardly or just reluctant to fight in a war the populace didn’t believe in? I thought the latter . What do you do when you’re looking for an answer to something like that? I took the approach of looking at differential analysis, and so I looked at ways to see how Italians performed in wars outside of Italy. That would be the US. The US is prolific with stats, and I looked up the numbers. From memory, there were around 1.6 million men of Italian descent in the US military during WW2. The way to judge heroism or cowardliness was to look at the medal count for combat troops which over a decent population count would be reasonably reflective in reaching a conclusion. Those of Italian heritage who gained medals for outperformance were right on average compared to the rest of the crowd.
Basilone would be a good example.
On February 19, 1945, Basilone was killed in action leading an assault off the beaches of Iwo Jima. He was posthumously awarded the Navy Cross, the only enlisted Marine to be honored with both the Navy Cross and the Medal of Honor.
Don’t buy into any bullshit from these low-functioning “historicans,” as they’re mostly all freaking useless but also not very bright.
To offer another example, that idiot (Driller) once suggested that the economies of Catholic countries didn’t function well due to the peculiarities of Catholicism. The moron hadn’t thought about Spain, France, Austria, and others. History is a difficult subject to grasp, and a lot of people just aren’t mentally equipped, as you see here. -
Jane Fonda Blames White Men For Climate Crisis, Calls For Them to be Arrested and Jailed
Like I say, all left wing bitches be ugly.
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I have just been watching a German movie and, I swear, they just used The Wilhelm Scream.
What is The Wilhelm Scream?
Well you probably already know. You just don’t know that you know.
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How often was autism in kids with older dads reported before the 1970s?
Frequently, Dot.
From my own observations (which were supported later by various international studies) advanced age of the father was a significant factor in the assessment* of intellectually disabled – and particularly autistic – children in institutions in the 60’s.
This observation continued through to the end of the 90’s, when I worked exclusively with students on the autism spectrum. Of course, there were youngish dads – 30’s to mid 40’s – but in the severely disabled, strictly autistic end of the spectrum, around 45% of the fathers would have been 65 plus.
*Assessment in the 80’s and 90’s was, as I’ve said before, a rigid, lenghty process, with observations, video and reports from all 3 to 5 members on the team. Nowadays, it’s ‘take a number and the nice NDIS lady will be with you soon’.
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Jihad Watch and Geller.
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As a treat last Friday night, I bought myself two cans of overproof Bundy and Coke. Haven’t had any for years.
I plan to buy a bottle of Bundy with the proceeds of my accumulated IGA frequent-shopper points in the next few weeks.
Bundy is one of only two spirits I love — the other being Chivas Regal. Bundy is one of Australia’s defining liquors. It’s banned in some pubs during live music nights because it turns bogans into animals.
Thankfully, it hasn’t yet been banned for home consumption. A secret pleasure.
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Calvary Hospital takeover laws pass ACT Legislative Assembly
Palliative care hospice Clare Holland House also at risk, with ACT Government claiming staff want to “take palliative care into the future.”
by Marilyn Rodrigues, Updated 5:21 pm 31/05/2023Notwithstanding the promised legal challenge from Calvary Health, the transition of the hospital to the control of Canberra Health Services is slated to begin almost immediately, and to be completed by the first week of July.
The legislation was passed 14-7, with standing orders again being suspended at the request of ACT Health Minister Rachel Stephen-Smith so that eight pages of “technical” amendments could be passed.
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WHY MOST WOKE PEOPLE ARE WOMEN
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Children’s Health Defense
@ChildrensHDGlobal Takeover: The United Nations Pushes for a Disturbing Power Grab
“Not only do we have to be concerned about the WHO, but now we have to be concerned about the UN itself,” lamented Dr.
@NassMeryl
.“The United Nations has come out with its own suggestion [emergency platform] to give enormous power to the UN Secretary-General in the event of an emergency,” or global shock, reported Dr. Nass.
This includes pandemics, biological warfare, climate change, supply chain disruptions, cyberspace disruption, an outer space event, and an “unforeseen black swan event,” which means they want the right to declare an emergency for any unspecified event.
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I keep on saying it is feminist Kool Aid.
https://www.spectrumnews.org/news/link-parental-age-autism-explained/
The link between parental age and autism, explained
(Note the deadshit Vox like article headline).
How does a mother’s age influence the odds of having a child with autism?
Overall, researchers have conducted fewer studies of maternal age and autism, and the results are not as clear-cut as they are for fathers. The effects of maternal age are more difficult to detect in epidemiological studies because women have children over a narrower age range than do men.Some studies have suggested that a woman’s chance of having a child with autism also increases steadily with age. The number of de novo mutations in egg cells increases with age, although to a lesser degree than it does in sperm. As with men, women who have autism traits may have children late. However, a comprehensive analysis found that for a woman over age 35, the chance of having a child with autism is lower than for younger women.
That study also suggested that women under age 25 are more likely to have a child with autism than older women. The finding echoed that of several other studies that reported that teenage mothers also have increased odds of having a child with autism.
Complete garbage.
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Incidentally, I would put the Dawson and Epstein cases in the same boat. The girls were teenagers and knew exactly why they were there. We (society) may still criminalise the conduct because of the relative power imbalances between the participants may mean there can never be genuine consent but let’s not pretend this is some newfound morale superiority.
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Reading an account of the desert war, in North Africa.
On 21st June, 1942, the South African garrison of Tobruk surrendered to the Axis forces.
Soon after, a party of Australians were on leave in Cairo, sitting around a table in a Cairo bar. A group of South African soldiers, obviously “Just off the desert” walked in. As they neared the head of the table, one of the Aussies stood up.
“Sit down, cobber and take a drink. You look tired. Have you run all the way from Tobruk?”
No – one knows how a monumental bar brawl got started……
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We previously saw a tiny clip of this interview with a UN whistleblower.
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Surely if Sigley knew like others apparently, they could have stepped forward and prevented others from being molested
Yes. Yes, he could have.
The ‘lovable larrikin’ Sigley was, however, part of the showbiz class – much adored by Joe and Jane Punter, but in reality governed by self-interest and image over substance.
Much like our political overlords.
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