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Normiephobia? Yep, that works too.
The new item of social value is dignity.Some men have been shocked by Lee’s definition of rape. One older author declared…
The German government are much more afraid of their conservative and Christian voters whom they don’t hesitate to oppress. Germany…
Baba April 28, 2024 3:00 pmAs a Nigerian citizen, you would safer if Nigerian gold was in the Fed’s vault…
J6 made perfect sense. Trump lost, predictably, but he had a cadre of trained militia backing him to institute a coup. After months of preparation by his blackshirt brigades, he bottled it when the time came to admit what his movement had become. And so it failed, bigly.
Given that the J6 ringleaders are all in gaol on long stretches, when Trump loses the popular vote again, who will take up arms on his behalf? Does he have a clone army waiting in the wings? I seriously doubt it.
The Groogs seal of approval. Money can’t buy.
Bragg’s stuff is not even in the top three legal jeopardies for Trump. He is guilty, of course, and under normal circumstances Donnie Two Scoops would withdraw in disgrace to be a footnote of history for just those indictments, but they are comparatively minor.
It would be like giving King Joffrey a ticket for unlicensed crossbow ownership.
feelthebern,
Yes. My mistake.
LOL
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ww5Lf97hXQM
“Trained militia” without weapons whom he told to stay at home on mass media, which was censored by the platform and is biased toward the rival party.
Who is Ray Epps?
Trump isn’t above criticism but if this is the best the Democrats have, they are just trying to stop him from running.
Have you ever considered that the USSC might consider his civil liberties are being violated under Amendments V and XIV?
Maybe not now, but if you get repeated charges after prior failures to indict or even go past arraignment or a voir dire, it is not only unethical, malicious and an abuse of process, it is a violation of Amendments V and XIV.
untroubled by a conscience he burns out Lady Justice’s eyes
the post-modern model of moral certainty
You are a space cadet and don’t care about fair trials for anyone.
TF are you? Tywin Lannister!?
Labor woulda known about Higgins the day she was found nude in Reynolds office.
It took a while to become aware of the fantastic schemozzle Brown and Reynolds had made handling it, but once they knew that they played the situation like a Strad.
My guess is the reason we’re reading laughable victim impact statements such as Brown’s is that the Liberal Party has mended fences with Higgins and they’re going to let Brown , Reynolds and Cash swing in the wind for a while.
Corey! Bernardi from the Corey Hotline sends me an email about the “elites” *having plans for us*.
In my opinion, he screwed over the rank-and-file members of the Australian Conservative Party.
The irony is toxically radioactive and searing to touch.
Munty:
LOL
Funny ol’ twists and turns in contemporary life.
Who would have ever believed that we would be grateful to a creature of base moral character whose perverted actions might just usher in the reintroduction of democracy to our tortured political sewer.
+20,000 upticks.
Just as you cannot have a rational debate with a person in an altered state of consciousness, you also cannot have a rational, respectful debate with an individual in an altered state of cognition.
We see examples of this in everyday life, but somehow think that politics is the exception to psychological/behavioural/biological norms.
Take ‘road rage’ for example. You’re running late for something and some twat is driving 50km/hr in an 80k/hr zone with limited opportunity to overtake. The you get to the one safe, straight stretch where you can overtake, and the same twat steps on the pedal to 80k/hr or more, and then immediately drops back down to 55, trapping you for another 5 or more kms. Your day has been a series of sh!tty experiences, and now your patience breaks. You sit on the horn and swear your head off at the disrespectful twat in front of you (who probably isn’t even aware you’ve been stuck behind them for the last 5km (we’re talking about a regional road here), even though your window is still wound up. You consider what other options you have to express your anger, most of which are either impractical, dangerous (to you), or illegal. In that state of mind, are you capable of engaging in a rational conversation?
The social, cultural, and economic policies of our opponents are calculated and framed to give the impression that we, conservatives, are a threat; to engage the amygdala of our opponents’ supporters (passive or active), so that the immediate response from their brain to the initial sensory stimulus is to (1). Identify the source of the sensory information as a threat, and (2). Respond immediately to the threat (i.e. Freeze, Flight, Fight).
No doubt the medical professionals on here will correct me, but my understanding is that when the amygdala is engaged, all energy the body possesses is diverted to survival mode, meaning that the brain’s capacity to analyse and rationalise, is bypassed.
To mix the metaphors, let’s return to gang culture: You’re either an Insider, or an Outsider. If you’re an outsider, you are not only a threat to the gang, but a threat to the individual. Threats are not reasoned with in gang culture. Dissent is not tolerated internally, and opposition is not tolerated externally.
If you don’t believe in climate change, you are an outsider: a threat to both the collective, and the individual (you’re insulting the individual’s intelligence and self-worth). In this context, outsiders are named (identified) and then dealt with via accusations of anti-social behaviour (planet killers), with the intention being that wider society will apply constraints to your oppositional behaviour in the form of devaluing your acceptance as a member of the herd (with the implied safety that brings).
Oppose us and the consequences of your behaviour can only be negative (for you). We will do almost anything to negate the threat we perceive you pose to us.
How can you rationally debate that?
This is why I occasionally put forward alternative tactics, which, on the surface, appear abstract and unnecessary.
What we are doing is not working. It hasn’t worked for decades. Continuing to perform the same dysfunctional routines because we are so fond of ritual (nostalgia is a powerful drug), is a form of self-harm.
If only there were some kind of… party capable of uniting rational, liberal, conservative, business, ecumenical interests…
bons – I’m not sure I agree with your characterisation of Friday night drinks. Always the highlight of the working week.
PHON, LDP and ACP in a loose coalition that could renegotiate terms after any election would have been fine.
Cormann also got rid of the fair Senate PR rules that now favour the major parties (and I include the Greens in that). The Liberals would rather give the Greens a free kick than allow the minor right-wing parties to flourish.
The woke are trying to “cancel” Latham, the Liberals are still trying to kill off the LDP after existing for 22 years and Bernardi (I suspect with Trumble and Cormann and perhaps a certain bald-headed Senator) lured in and caught and killed off a meaningful conservative party.
It’s a big cuckin’ flub, and we’re not in it!
Yes, Monty. Yes it did.
Leaked Video Shows D.C. Cops Were ‘Rioters’ and Instigators at J-6 Protest (9 Jun)
The number of glowies in the Capitol just keeps on rising. And there’s been more discussion around and about lately about the use of the confected emergency to “certify” the election in such a way as to deny standing to court challenges. I wonder when some red states decide to go postal? Must be getting closer.
Higgins was made of sterner stuff
Que?
Que?
What was the “Security Breach”?
The wasn’t one.
So why did Brown “sack” Lehrmann, who was “finishing up” in 2 days anyway?
And why did she even bother speaking to Higgins?
She’d been a Spinner since about 1986, so what was the big deal?
“We believed her story because it struck similar tones to those we knew first-hand”
I didn’t.
calli says:
June 10, 2023 at 10:51 am
What intrigues me is that she kept quiet for so long. Or…was no one prepared to print the story until now?
The alleged first few meetings with the Haggins would have made a good story even then.
Keeping quiet after February 2021 was a massive mistake that she now regrets… there is probably much more to THAT story, still.
The strategy now… play the victim… all the way to the hilt.
There’s a 60 Minutes option in there… somewhere.
These global elites really do have terrible plans for all of us.
They really do want to stomp-on our liberties, control us with 15 minute cities and central bank digital currencies; while keeping us cowed by manufactured panics.
The elites want the power and the money for themselves while openly stating their plans for you are to ‘to own nothing and be happy’.
Somebody else noted this message from Cory Bernadi in his newsletter.
Others have mentioned this stuff to me about “15 minute cities” & I thought it seemed a bit far fetched. On the other hand, the plan for central bank digital currencies is no longer a conspiracy theory & is casually confirmed by governments. Similarly, a year or two ago a friend’s son-in-law, who works in a very senior capacity for a gigantuan international property investment bank (which will remain nameless) told her that Australia will gradually join the countries where rental of houses is routine, and very very few own their own homes.
I suddenly feel like the proverbial frog in the pot of slowly boiling water.
Great post Muddy!
I agree; alternative tactics are needed, but cannot work without actual leadership possessing a ‘systems view’, setting up ‘combined operations’ to get where we want to go.
Where do we even want to go?
“The Liberals would rather give the Greens a free kick than allow the minor right-wing parties to flourish.”
Yep. The Liberals frequently preference the Greens above PHON and other small right of centre parties such as the ALA (Australian Liberty Alliance). And the reason why Labor and the Greens can cobble a majority in the senate is because the geniuses at Liberal HQ in WA decided to preference Labor and the Greens ahead of One Nation last year and Labor won the senate spot ahead of the Liberals.
This is the key factor for depression? Big Pharma is probably already working on a drug to activate the growth factor receptor mentioned in the article. This has potential for depression, some other psychiatric conditions, age associated cognitive impairment, some dementia types, and traumatic brain injury. The healthy will start using the drug to optimize cognition because that growth factor stimulates neurogenesis and increases communication between neurons. It potentially will be the most beneficial nootropic available.
Sorry Ed – can’t follow that.
I was just commenting on the proposition that the “lady” was “made of sterner stuff”.
I repeat, “QUE???”
Thing is Gilas, some of us have been in Brown’s position as she describes it – trying to wheedle out the truth from someone who’s clearly obfuscating and only getting little morsels of truth mixed with sludge.
She may be playing “victim”. Lord knows everyone has had an audition for the role. Perhaps it’s her turn.
Vicki…Ed is a comedian (in a manner of speaking) and wrongology is his shtick.
Unlike monty, who’s a true believer.
And with that I must be off…that ‘to read’ pile isn’t getting any smaller.
Considering the current cache of leaked texts from Ms Higgins & co, I wonder if we should expect any from around the time of the trial.
Imagine if (big if) the disappearance mid evidence was part of the game plan?
Time will tell.
Stuff which comes from one’s stern?
Vicki…Ed is a comedian (in a manner of speaking) and wrongology is his shtick.
Unlike monty, who’s a true believer.
Yes, Roger. Both are familiar distractions.
Out & about for breakfast today in the inner west today.
First stop Haberfield.
Option one, 30 min wait.
Option two, 20 min wait time.
So we popped over to Annandale, the place didn’t say a wait time but the line up was about 10-15 people long.
Fantastic to see small business smashing it.
Also, what mortgage stress.
No, that is not all that Plod have on Trump. Election fraud, business fraud and seditious conspiracy indictments are all coming.
No charge against Trump has any validity. The left are going after him because like you they have no dicks and are putrid humans. How are the milko’s kiddies?
Muddy says:
June 10, 2023 at 11:23 am
Oppose us and the consequences of your behaviour can only be negative (for you). We will do almost anything to negate the threat we perceive you pose to us.
How can you rationally debate that?
You can’t.
There are only two options:
1) Violent rebellion: bloody, disruptive but ultimately effective. We are still in the majority and, more importantly, are much more intelligent.
est. time to result: 5-10 years.
2) Considerate, gradual, polite, intelligent and “forthright”(…) discourse and debate. Eventually taking back control of the institutions that have been termited by leftards over the last 140+ years.
est. time to result: 140+ years.
It’s very simple, really.
Absolutely!
Thus thought every side, ever. Revolutions are not won by the moderate.
Why does this remind me of Munty and Ed?
Dutchsinse has made a dent. People are linking to him everywhere. It took NYC to be covered in a haze before anyone seriously started taking notice of these deliberately started fires.
The cat is out of the bag now.
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Stew Peters:
Unexplained Wildfires SCORCH Canada: Lying Media Push Climate Change Hoax As Smoke Covers Northeast
Chris says:
June 10, 2023 at 12:08 pm
1) Violent rebellion: bloody, disruptive but ultimately effective. We are still in the majority and, more importantly, are much more intelligent.
est. time to result: 5-10 years.
Thus thought every side, ever. Revolutions are not won by the moderate.
The set which includes human criteria like majority and intelligence.. also includes those that are NOT moderate.
You as well sir, I hope you’ve polished up your French and finish up those little Danishes.
It was a burnoff of vegetation that wasn’t logged or thinned out.
Why is this so hard for you to understand?
Thanks, Pol. An unforgettable footballing moment featuring a frog with a hair trigger. If I’m not incorrect, a lengthy banning ensued.
Still reckon Zidane headbutting that bloke was epic.
This reminds me of a story of a nurse doing the same thing. A c-bomb colleague dobbed her in.
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Stew Peters:
Hero Doctor Gives Saline Instead Of Death Shot: Doctor’s Bravery Saved Thousands Of Lives
If Mrs Beetrooter has first hand evidence of crimes, why isn’t she reporting them?
And, yes, I can’t wait for “similar tones” evidence to be admitted in criminal trials.
#itsthevibe
Even without revolution you need your extremists. They fight.
Unfortunately for us, the Liberal party has been playing along and redefining extreme to anyone with a wiff of right of center.
You as well sir, I hope you’ve polished up your French and finish up those little Danishes.
Phrasing ?
Dotsays:
June 10, 2023 at 12:25 pm
Unexplained Wildfires SCORCH Canada: Lying Media Push Climate Change Hoax As Smoke Covers Northeast
It was a burnoff of vegetation that wasn’t logged or thinned out.
Why is this so hard for you to understand?
F-wit status confirmed.
Interesting:
The author of the following article, which really is a wake-up call to all Australians, is Dr (Professor) David Barton,.
Dr. Barton specialises in general adult and geriatric psychiatry with a particular interest in neuropsychiatry-acquired brain injury, and the association between depression and cardiovascular disease. He works in centres in Melbourne and Ballarat.
JANUARY 23, 2023
Australia’s Aboriginal Industry: Always Was, Always Will Be About Power.
By Dr David Barton.
In 1983, as a naïve youth worker and concerned by what I had been reading since the early 1970s about what was happening with Aborigines in Alice Springs, I moved there to see what I could do to help. All told, I spent six years in Central Australia, leaving both depressed and convinced that the situation could never be fixed. …
Unfortunately, much of what passes for Aboriginal ‘culture’ today is an invention of the last 50 years. Fortunately, much authentic Aboriginal culture of the past has vanished. The gruesome initiations, genital mutilation, inflicted cicatrices, burns, ritual spearings, sorcery, and payback murders have by and large disappeared. Nevertheless, inter-tribe clan grievances often remain, as can be seen at some football indigenous matches, both on the field and amongst the spectators. Even though these encounters can still become violent, at least those conflicts are mostly played out with a football, not spears and clubs.
Meanwhile, the Aboriginal Industry is chock full of ill-informed, urban myth-makers and illusionists, this caste of urgers and deluded pretenders giving rise to the patronising insistence on the uniqueness of ‘Aboriginal knowledge’ about everything from agriculture and fish farms (a lá Bruce Pascoe), water and fire management (a lá ‘cultural burning’) to Aboriginal ‘art’, ‘fashion’ and even ‘astronomy’, and not to mention Ernie Dingo and Richard Walley’s thoroughly overdone ‘Welcome to Country”. This is mostly snake oil fakery, an effort to convince contemporary Australians that the Aborigines of old were something they clearly never were not.
Worse, histories and observational accounts of early Aboriginal life and culture are vanishing from library shelves, replaced by the anti-white post-modern dogma of ‘invasion, colonisation and inter-generational trauma’. It is unusual today to find any history book about Aborigines in a secondary or tertiary institution that is more than fifteen years old. This is cultural censure and erasure happening right under our noses. We are all the poorer for it, black and white alike.
Meanwhile, the recent invention, exaggeration, distortion and misrepresentation of the alleged ‘frontier wars’ serves as a made-to-order replacement ‘history’ intended to raise the status of Aboriginal people and degrade that of settlers. It is yet another bill of goods, a distorting sham, being hawked by a power-grabbing activist elite in whose interest it is to falsify and distort our history. The goal, need it be said, is an attempt to paint a genocidal racism as Australia’s original sin. …
Equality of opportunity is not enough for the power-hungry, to whom any perceived inequality in outcome is an opportunity:
Unfortunately, self-determination for many people who today identify as Aboriginal is taken to mean the normal rules — keeping children in school, eschewing clan and domestic violence — aren’t thought to fully apply. This is nowhere more apparent than on the troubled streets of Alice Springs.
‘Self-determination’ means ‘we’ll do what we like and you can pay for it’.
Self-determination’ is about colonising and taking control, accepting all that whitefellas have to offer while offering nothing in return.
Self-determination is about undermining whitefella institutions, judiciaries, organisations, and bureaucracies.
Self-determination is about enculturated white people who, on the strength of what may be a mere speck of indigenous DNA, now identify exclusively as Aboriginal, thereby giving themselves an economic and social leg-up.
For the activist cadre it always was and always will be about money, power, and control, all underscored by the notion that members of one race enjoy a preeminent ascendency over all other Australians.
More examples of ‘self-determination’ can be found in the ban on climbing Ayers Rock (Uluru), Mt Warning (Wollumbin), Mt Gillen, and many Grampians climbs, all for ill-defined or unexplained ‘cultural’ reasons’. After much outcry, consideration is now being given to re-opening the Mt Warning climb, but only for those who pay a fee and are escorted by indigenous guides. More rent-seeking, what a surprise!
Australian place names are also rapidly being overwritten with (most likely made-up) Aboriginal names (eg: K’gari, once known as Fraser Island). All of this is about claims to ownership, to ‘sovereignty’. These changes should not be mistaken for deference to Aboriginal culture; it’s no more nor less than an insidious takeover. What we are experiencing here is cultural guerrilla warfare, the picking off one target after the other. Don’t believe it? Look no further than what has happened in New Zealand.
The Voice:
Self-determination is not about ‘closing the gap’, nor Aborigines ‘having a voice’ — all of that can be achieved without a change to the Constitution. Indeed, the $35+ billion currently spent on Aboriginal affairs and the 11-plus current Aboriginal members of parliament are more than enough to fulfil both aims.
The Voice referendum is purely and simply about the drive towards Aboriginal sovereignty, which can only be achieved by changing the nation’s foundational document and charter.
Under the Albanese government, self-determination means the coming referendum, whose barely concealed intention is to divide Australia along lines of race. …
What is hiding in plain sight is the Albanese government’s intention to de-facto fund and promote the ‘Yes’ campaign whilst hamstringing ‘No’ advocates. Anything the No campaign says can and will be construed as “misinformation”. We have seen this already with the appalling attacks by Noel Pearson and Marcia Langton’s on Jacinta Price. Brace for much more of that — and wonder, too, if the bile and attempts at character assassination are a foretaste of an empowered Voice? …
Meanwhile, Australians are subjected to a daily and massive pro-Yes propaganda barrage by the taxpayer-funded ABC and SBS.
Remote Aboriginal Australians are unfortunate mascots in a power struggle among the white majority. The Voice is just the latest attempt by the left-bureaucratic class to get more control and further exploit the rest of us
Explain unknown hypersonic cloud fronts and you’re halfway to a working hypothesis.
Yes, it would be interesting to see if there were more “ha ha, got him” texts, or speculation that “a delay is good for Katy’s Senate Committee timeline”.
Even just some general living it up or banging out Uni assignments or book chapters whilst she was in the “depths of despair”.
The smoking gun, of course, would be any chatter about what the witnesses called in the interim had to say.
Not 100% sure, but I think one of those was Brown.
Was the fainting fit aimed at getting a bead on what witnesses who were scheduled to appear after Britnah might say, and frame her responses accordingly?
The latter was a colourful Italiano by the name of Marco Materazzi. Played for Internazionale.
Zizou was one of the greatest ever. As described by Thierry Henry, the Z man was not known for his subtlety. “He is of the street”.
Correct, Bluey.
Are we going to wait for a new Tony Abbott to arise and lead us to the light?
Our enemies dont need a leader because their system gives immediate, delicious reward to being crooked in their cause. They are paid off in smug self-approval.
How would that work for us?
PS, bern.
I don’t expect leaks of texts from around the time of the trial, because these wouldn’t have been submitted in discovery.
Unless the leaker is closer to Britnah than we all think.
Riddle me this:
We’ve just found out that Lehrmann’s prior Security B reach related to “Documents”.
Fiona Brown knew that, so why didn’t she involve the AFP from the Get Go?
Lehrmann was leaving the Office in 3 days anyway, he was a security risk, as shown by his previous actions, yet Reynolds handballed the Issue on to Fiona Brown, who then put the responsibility for notifying the AFP onto Brittany Higgins.
It doesn’t pass the Sniff Test.
cohenite, where was the Barton article published?
These are the words of a concerned chap worried about his partner’s “fragile mental elf”, to be sure.
To be fair, he didn’t go as far as to call himself a God Oracle or claim people shit their pants when he walked into the room.
Half the time, Trump is the one getting himself into trouble by having a big freaking mouth.
Cronkite, what do you think of this, as a lawyer only and nothing else?
I really can’t understand Trump’s thinking on this. Why would we have to make a song and dance that they were classified. If he wanted to big note, he could have just said, “these are very revealing docs and only I as prez had the power to declassify and that’s how important I am”.
Dotsays:
June 10, 2023 at 12:36 pm
F-wit status confirmed.
Explain unknown hypersonic cloud fronts and you’re halfway to a working hypothesis.
You shut your mouth ( via keyboard ) very quickly when I threw Karen Kingston in your face yesterday. You scampered off like a ghost crab with a torch shone into your eyes, on a beach with a full moon shining overhead.
“Trump “stored his boxes containing classified documents in various locations”
Hang on. Weren’t we told the FBI had inspected the premises, and simply suggested an additional padlock be installed on the door to the secure area?
No mention of lounges, bathrooms, etc. So, what is it?
No he didn’t, which at least is a point in his favor. You’re being far too dramatic to introduce such a point, Sanchez. No one in their right mind would say such a thing. Please, stop it with the hyper bowl.
JANUARY 23, 2023
Australia’s Aboriginal Industry: Always Was, Always Will Be About Power.
By Dr David Barton.
Cohenite – thank you for posting that excellent article – probably one of the most prescient and well informed that has emerged. Where was it published?
Many here will know that I have had more to do with Aboriginal people & their culture than the average person, and that I have a great affection for them and interest in their history. Despite this, I am wholly opposed to the Voice pretty much for the reasons outlined in Barton’s terrific article.
I read her absence during the trial a different way.
She was not doing well under cross examination. Discrepancies in what she told had told Wilkinson and then police. Remember Wilkinson was originally supposed to be called as a witness but was dropped. She would have helped the defence. Plus she would have known Reynolds and Brown not going to help her version.
Combine with the pressure of the media and political hype that she had so actively promoted. The whole Metoo movement was counting on her.
The pressure would have been incredible and once a good KC got started she could not withstand the questioning.
“Imagine if (big if) the disappearance mid evidence was part of the game plan?”
Mother Lode much earlier:-
Her eyes watery, partly from self-pity and partly the fumes arising from her glass. She will be seething at Jacinta’s presumption, and leering with malicious intent at the black house maid.
And the running mascara (Like Tammy Faye-Baker). Perhaps she needs to tweet another picture of her on the chaise lounge with a pile of hubby’s useless scribbles in the foreground, weeping copiously hugging her supportive flog of a husband to elicit sympathy from her decreasing number of fans.
Why didn’t defence call her in for a “chat” in the witness box?
A horse is dangerous at both ends and uncomfortable in the middle.
– Ian Fleming
Like the ABC and Grauniad are wont to do, perhaps it is time to prefix Lisa Wilkinson when mentioned as “controversial and (alledgedly) racist presenter”, Lisa Wilkinson.
I didn’t shut up at all, you changed the topic once again.
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Dot says:
June 9, 2023 at 12:51 pm
Didn’t Karen Kingston get sacked in 1998, from the sales division of Pfizer?
I am not a fan of emergency use by mandate, a poor safety record, corruption and nepotism, but what has this to do with young Dutch Nonsense/Montana Doofus’ inability to read the timestamp changing on a radar map? How does this “prove” “nanna wrigglars”?
If he seriously thinks that the five to eight-hour period was a matter of seconds, then the cloud front that moves in the radar image is most probably tearing through southern Quebec at HYPERSONIC speeds.
Why haven’t we heard of this apocalyptic polar hurricane?
The Arctic Ocean was angry that day my friends.
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Your next comment at 1:06 PM – so what if venom peptides are used in all sorts of medication?!
Very appealing, Dover. Thanks
Vicki, even Google was able to tell me that excellent account by Dr David Barton of his experience with Aboriginal “culture” first appeared at Quadrant last December:
Always Was, Always Will Be About Power
Good question JC.
The main point I remember was that in the 5 hour discussion before recording Higgins had said she was not wearing any panties at all. This then became Bruce took them off. A significant contradiction. Defence KC was able to use that as I think had the tape and asked Higgins about it.
Defence would have known Wilkinson on Higgins side and would say things like she appeared to be truthful etc. It would have been risky.
However I was disappointed a KC did not get to cross examine Wilkinson.
“Why didn’t defence call her in for a “chat” in the witness box?”
Dotsays:
June 10, 2023 at 1:06 pm
You shut your mouth ( via keyboard ) very quickly when I threw Karen Kingston in your face yesterday. You scampered off like a ghost crab with a torch shone into your eyes, on a beach with a full moon shining overhead.
I didn’t shut up at all, you changed the topic once again.
You didn’t address the topic, nanowriggler You posted it, f-wit, thinking you were clued up and knew what you were talking about. I put you in your place. You asked for evidence and it was provided.
Another f-ing retard exposed.
YOU-ARE -FULL- OF- SHIT!
Didn’t Karen Kingston get sacked in 1998, from the sales division of Pfizer?
With all due consideration, you are clutching straws.
Not sure if such facts permeate the brains of these people, Dot.
I’d be willing to put money on extreme environmentalists starting a few.
Have a go, Dot.
Debunk the venom evidence in the jabs … f-wit!
I think it was ‘bern yesterday who noted that the trial judge in the matter of Lehrmann v Toad of Toad Hall & Channel X* is to be Michael Lee, supposedly a black-letter straight bat guy.
So far this is proving to be the case.
Last night it was reported (on Nein I think) that Toad and Channel X* had made a submission to explore the source of the leaks of Das Projekt tapes at the defamation trial.
Judge Lee : “Yeah, nah. Leave the fishing rods at home guys.” (He actually used the term “fishing expedition”).
The reporterette seemed miffed and mystified that a Toad of Toad Hall request would be knocked back.
But, yes, Jurdge Lee seems intent on keeping this one firmly on the rails.
* I learned Roman Numerals especially for the case.
Do a thorough search for condoms, the cleaner was told.
Caught! Grandpa Ed Cletus-Case works as a cleaner at Parliament House.
Vicki, even Google was able to tell me that excellent account by Dr David Barton of his experience with Aboriginal “culture” first appeared at Quadrant last December:
Thank you, Tom. The condescension was not necessary.
Yeah, for a moment he was talking about breakfast.
m0ntysays:
June 10, 2023 at 10:56 am
How do you know? What election fraud?
There is an AG in … NY working on business fraud.
ROFLMAO! A NY AG? You are a laugh a minute m0nty=fa.
I thought he was talking about.
Sheesh!
If justice prevails? If there was a smidgin of a chance of justice the indictment would not have proceeded. US is done.
The other thing, this is happening in Florida and if DeSantis wanted to burnish his conservative bona fides he would object to this happening in his state. That would also make Trump owe him for it. We will see.
If he seriously thinks that the five to eight-hour period was a matter of seconds, then the cloud front that moves in the radar image is most probably tearing through southern Quebec at HYPERSONIC speeds.
WTF!
All the Sat imagery has been recorded so anyone suggesting the bold above was occurring over hours at the time of ignition has exposed themselves to be a f-wit.
Idiots galore.
It’s spontaneous combustion Tickler.
Totally natural phenomenon.
m0ntysays:
June 10, 2023 at 11:06 am
the January 6 nonsense
J6 made perfect sense. Trump lost, predictably, but he had a cadre of trained militia backing him to institute a coup.
If you want to know what a leftard is doing watch what he accuses others of doing.
“Trained militia”: BLM and Ante-fa, “fiery but mostly peaceful protests”.
“Institute a coup”: Fed and Capitol Police agents provocateur.
Ed Casesays:
June 10, 2023 at 11:15 am
Labor woulda known about Higgins the day she was found nude in Reynolds office.
It took a while to become aware of the fantastic schemozzle Brown and Reynolds had made handling it, but once they knew that they played the situation like a Strad.
Once Grandpa Cletus says someone was playing a situation “like a Strad”, you know that they are doomed.
Oddly, no conspiracy theorist has explained why any federal government would profit from starting wildfires in Canada.
They just revel in the conspiracy wank-off.
Ed Casesays:
June 10, 2023 at 11:40 am
Que?
What was the “Security Breach”?
The wasn’t one.
Link to the relevant section of the Parliament House Security Manual. This is the third time I have asked for this. If you are unable to provide it this time, it is reasonable to assume that you are again, as you commonly do, lying.
Talk is cheap?
Have you ever talked to a lawyer?
Zatarasays:
June 10, 2023 at 1:42 pm
Oddly, no conspiracy theorist has explained why any federal government would profit from starting wildfires in Canada.
They just revel in the conspiracy wank-off.
You forgot the sarc tag.
Must say, I always wondered what actual Media Adviser skills Our Brinny had to earn her six-figure salary.
12 years old. No formal media qualifications. No apparent media experience – and apparently needed the help of Mr Shiraz to get her own media circus up and running.
As Mz Brown observes, the Australian parliament is a smörgåsbord for young and talentless advisors with the right connections, who can speak emoji and perform Insta or Facebook.
Thanks for the Ian Fleming quip about horses, Johnny Rotten @1.05.
In the long-distant past when a non-leftist could get a chair in an arts faculty – it seems like another planet – one professor likened the 1960s student radical to a baby. Why? It was loud, irrational, and incontinent at both ends.
So am I.
Yeeessss it was recorded, WITH TIMESTAMPS.
Look at the timestamps you stupid git. Otherwise, explain the hypersonic cloud front!
If you’re saying it was in real-time as Dutch Nonsense rolled over the replay and the fires started within seconds of each other, then the clouds would be moving faster than any rocket humans have ever made and not quite orbital speed ~40km/s. Insufferably ridiculous.
No one would notice winds of 144,000 km/hr? You know, 500 – 1000 times more powerful than a cyclone? This wouldn’t have made the fires burn at catastrophic rates?
This is plainly silly, just stop you poor fool!
Vicki, I was editing myself on the run — I hope I didn’t sound condescending. The bit I edited out was that, even though it’s supposed to be a search engine, Google specialises in censorship, disinformation and bum steers.
Ed Casesays:
June 10, 2023 at 12:47 pm
Riddle me this:
We’ve just found out that Lehrmann’s prior Security B reach related to “Documents”.
Fiona Brown knew that, so why didn’t she involve the AFP from the Get Go?
Grandpa Cletus continues to display his gross ignorance of matters relating to security.
The Parly House Security Manual Grandpa.
She was not doing well under cross examination. Discrepancies in what she told had told Wilkinson and then police. Remember Wilkinson was originally supposed to be called as a witness but was dropped.
I’d say Higgins didn’t know Wilkinson was taping everything.
At some stage, someone worked out that Lisa Wilkinson was playing both sides of the street, so they called her as a Witness to wrongfoot the Defence and prevent them from calling her.
It’s pretty obvious now that Higgins told Wilkinson she wasn’t wearing duds but told the cops something else.
I’d say the story abouit putting the white dress in a bag and leaving it under the bed is pure Lisa Wilkinson.
So, Higgins side had worked out that Lisa Wilkinson wasn’t their friend, but she still got Shane Drumgold a beauty with her phone call about the Logies Speech that she was “unlikely to give”.
Steve tricklersays:
June 10, 2023 at 1:22 pm
Dotsays:
June 10, 2023 at 1:06 pm
Don’t worry Steve. Dotty Dot of Dottiness still thinks that the Scots from the Lowlands are really English. And about a year ago he was rattling on about Anglo Saxons and the derivation of the English language. Wrong, wrong, again dotty. dot, dotty……………………….
Dotsays:
June 10, 2023 at 1:55 pm
I’d be willing to put money on extreme environmentalists starting a few.
So am I.
All the Sat imagery has been recorded so anyone suggesting the bold above was occurring over hours at the time of ignition has exposed themselves to be a f-wit.
Yeeessss it was recorded, WITH TIMESTAMPS.
Look at the timestamps you stupid git. Otherwise, explain the hypersonic cloud front!
If you’re saying it was in real-time as Dutch Nonsense rolled over the replay and the fires started within seconds of each other, then the clouds would be moving faster than any rocket humans have ever made and not quite orbital speed ~40km/s. Insufferably ridiculous.
No one would notice winds of 144,000 km/hr? You know, 500 – 1000 times more powerful than a cyclone? This wouldn’t have made the fires burn at catastrophic rates?
This is plainly silly, just stop you poor fool!
You are certifiably insane.
I’m not sure we can even agree on where we are now, let alone if we are winning (we’ve redefined that), and ‘Do we want to win?’
Ed Casesays:
June 10, 2023 at 1:57 pm
She was not doing well under cross examination. Discrepancies in what she told had told Wilkinson and then police. Remember Wilkinson was originally supposed to be called as a witness but was dropped.
I’d say Higgins didn’t know Wilkinson was taping everything.
She was told, and acknowledged the advice.
Trump is more likely to get a sympathetic jury in Florida than any other state.
Dr Faustussays:
June 10, 2023 at 1:52 pm
Higgins was made of sterner stuff and put she her Media Adviser experience to good use.
Must say, I always wondered what actual Media Adviser skills Our Brinny had to earn her six-figure salary.
12 years old. No formal media qualifications. No apparent media experience – and apparently needed the help of Mr Shiraz to get her own media circus up and running.
As Mz Brown observes, the Australian parliament is a smörgåsbord for young and talentless advisors with the right connections, who can speak emoji and perform Insta or Facebook.
We are not only being governed by donkeys, but also on the sidelines, a load of asses…………………FFS
Ed,
Minor correction.
Wilkinson was most definitely Higgins friend. She wanted the conviction for Metoo and to take down the Coaltion. By the time of the trial she was heavily invested.
However her involvement had contributed to issues surrounding Higgins motivation and credibility.
A sad loss to the education of the media Metoo movement in that could not get to see what happened under cross examination.
Johnny Rottensays:
June 10, 2023 at 2:01 pm
Steve tricklersays:
June 10, 2023 at 1:22 pm
Dotsays:
June 10, 2023 at 1:06 pm
Don’t worry Steve. Dotty Dot of Dottiness still thinks that the Scots from the Lowlands are really English. And about a year ago he was rattling on about Anglo Saxons and the derivation of the English language. Wrong, wrong, again dotty. dot, dotty……………………….
I reckon he is taking the pi55. All in good fun.
A 5km walk to be embarked on.
Brown’s commentary obviously splashes shite all over Higgins’ and Scummo’s reputations – neither of which are especially valuable in an institutional sense.
More significantly, it pushes Drumgold further below the surface of the sewer of the ACT judicial process:
Outside of Clown World, that would be career limiting.
But this is the ACT.
For all of her airs I think she is pretty 500 1 1000. A 500 1 50 50, in fact.
Soon perhaps her name will by 1000 5 500.
I agree with the latter, but the question is: Why are we not utilising it?
I don’t believe it is because of widespread cowardice; fear is normal human behaviour, a motivator. (Though our opponents obviously do not fear us. Indeed, I posit that the absence of fear (consequences for poor or non-existing performance) in political and socio-cultural realms is detrimental to our cause).
To me, there must be a psychological reason.
I suggested many years ago an ‘amygdalic freeze’ but I now wonder if it is not akin to Stockholm Syndrome.
Have we developed a (one way) bond with our abusers?
Zizou was one of the greatest ever. As described by Thierry Henry, the Z man was not known for his subtlety. “He is of the street”.
Yes, well, I wouldn’t listen to that cheat Henry. He scored a goal against Ireland with a hand ball. And, never owned up about it. Typical ARSEnal player. French git.
Wilkinson was most definitely Higgins friend. She wanted the conviction for Metoo and to take down the Coaltion. By the time of the trial she was heavily invested.
#1. #MeToo was a 2014 thing. Itb had disappeared without trace by 2021.
#2. Calling Wilkinson prevented Defence from calling her.
#3. The Book Deal prevented Higgins from doing a Book Deal with anyone else. Has the Fitzsimons book been released yet? You’ll be waiting a long time.
#4. Wilkinson woulda known beforehand that she’d won the Logie, so her conversation with Drumgold was misleading dishonest.
She knew the speech would cause the Trial to be delayed, at the very least, and that action didn’t help Higgins, it helped Lehrmann
Nah, it’s a Federal Court matter and that’s a line he shouldn’t try to cross. Mostly because he would be peeing into the wind as it’s a separation of powers (or at least jurisdiction) thing.
It’s also not his responsibility to rescue Trump from this and he couldn’t even if he tried. But that won’t stop the Trump uber alles crowd from whining about it.
That being said, Trump has a better chance in a fed court in Florida than in NYC or DC, but he knew that when he moved there.
Dr Faustussays:
June 10, 2023 at 2:14 pm
Outside of Clown World, that would be career limiting.
But this is the ACT.
The ACT. The Australian Corrupt Territory where anything goes (wrong). Katy G is next if there is any semblance of Justice. Like Sergeant Schultz of Hogan’s Heroes. I know nothing, nothing……………
The bit I edited out was that, even though it’s supposed to be a search engine, Google specialises in censorship, disinformation and bum steers.
Explanation accepted.
This is the closest DeSantis came to defending Trump, which was appropriate IMO.
And isn’t it about time that the NSW ICAC investigation into Gladys gets to be published. Not many weeks before the end of the Financial Year to do this.
Have any pesky negative consequences to trying improve brain function by making it more neotenous arisen? Like, say, post-mitotic neurons re-entering the cell cycle, or neurons that are inhibitory during development and flip to excitatory when proliferation flips to ‘pruning’, flipping back to inhibitory?
Muddy says:
June 10, 2023 at 2:17 pm
We are still in the majority and, more importantly, are much more intelligent.
I agree with the latter, but the question is: Why are we not utilising it?
I don’t believe it is because of widespread cowardice; fear is normal human behaviour, a motivator.
Indeed, we are not cowards, but we are conveniently blinded by the complacent belief that injustice will eventually fail and that its effects will be reversed.
The only problem with that delusion is that injustice must be fought actively.
Passive resistance is a convenient lie, propounded by leftards, that only succeeds in revisionist history textbooks.
Just like cancer and termite infestation, the adverse consequences of leftism increase with time and become exponentially harder to correct.
As the peace-medallion-wearing hippies used to say in the 1960s and 70s: “Be active today or radioactive tomorrow.”
They got off their @rses, often violently, to help create their dystopia.
We need to do the same.. gentle discourse and Queensberry’s Rules won’t cut it.
If Brown had anything to say worth hearing, she coulda told the Sofronof Inquiry.
Unless she was on Stress Leave, like a few of the AFP cops.
The bottom line is:
She and Reynolds tried to screw Higgins over, and thery did, at the expense of both their careers.
Now Brown is saying she should be able to have her Cake [her integrity] and eat it too.
Because: Woman brought down by sexist blokes [Brittany Higgins is a bloke in Fiona Brown’s heartbreaking fairytale brought to you by
The Australian [prop. R. Murdoch]].
Dr F earlier quoting from the Oz.
More truthiness.
She was offered the option of working (if you would call it that) from Reynolds home town of Perth during the election campaign, or working remotely from the Gold Coast.
This is not a payout.
As for the “never have a job again”, they were in the midst of an election campaign which the Libs expected to lose, so continuing employment was unlikely for many of them.
This is Britnah trying to extract a firm promise of a job post election from Brown and/or Reynolds (probably recording the conversation) and she was told – correctly – that there were no guarantees.
Noice.
5 Noice.
NOT ALL of the lowland Scots were probably “English”. The Kingdom of Strathclyde was more “Anglo Saxon” than it was “Pictish” or “Gael”. This started as a joke about lowland Scots and Scots Irish being distinct “languages” from English. They’re not really, it started off as 19th-century Romanticism and devolved into 20th-century English bashing. Is calling the PSNI the Polis Service o Norlin Airlan really indicative of being a separate “language”?
Irish Gaelic and Scots Gaelic are obviously other languages.
The thing is, at best the Irish were proto-Celtic.
The genetic evidence means the British & Irish basically all have the same ancestors and were in the Isles for thousands of years.
A discussion starts. The author still suggests Anglo Saxon settlement, but not the absurd invasion theory.
Follow the evidence. There are no space lasers. There are no ‘Celtic nations suffering under an English yoke’.
https://www.quora.com/Why-is-Scotland-considered-a-Celtic-nation-when-in-reality-since-the-Middle-Ages-the-Celts-live-only-in-the-far-north-of-the-country-and-constitute-just-a-small-fraction-of-the-Scots/answer/%C3%89amon-OKelly?ch=15&oid=165815577&share=d3059ca9&srid=C37u&target_type=answer
Why is Scotland considered a Celtic nation, when in reality, since the Middle Ages, the Celts live only in the far north of the country and constitute just a small fraction of the Scots?
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Éamon O’Kelly
I am fairly well read in British history
Here is a paper discussing the pre-Roman roots of English. It shouldn’t be controversial given the early Kings in the House of Wessex (that became the first Kings of the Anglo Saxons, England and the current King and all Kings since Empress Matilda and Henry II have that lineage too) had several “Celtic” names that the Welsh and Brythonic Kings would normally have. There is even proof of Welsh being spoken as a native tongue in the Fens into the Norman rule and almost into modern day. The Welsh are categorised in old English law codes with a weregild.
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The Celtic Hypothesis – Do we actually speak British?
https://www.academia.edu/34535711/The_Celtic_Hypothesis_Do_we_actually_speak_British?email_work_card=title
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The idea of who was from where was a fluid concept. Old English, French and German were not too dissimilar. Modern French comes from language d’Oc and language d’Oil. If tribes in pre Roman Britain in Belgium and pre Roman England were similar and had the same cultural changes, then post Rome they could be very similar. They had no concept of “England” or ‘France” or the channel being a border.
https://www.academia.edu/52520961/Historical_similarities_between_Cerdic_of_Wessex_and_Commius_of_the_Atrebates?email_work_card=title
Historical similarities between Cerdic of Wessex and Commius of the Atrebates
Just follow the evidence!
S P A C E L A S E R S
Sure, lil’ buddy.
BJ at 1:41
Yes.
For all the talk of virtuoso Strad playing, when Elbow walks to the rostrum and picks up the baton at Monday’s caucus, the #1 fiddle seat will be vacant.
“Who’s on lead Strad?” he asks. “Mark?”
Dreyfus: “Nup. Second tuba for me.”
“Tanya?”
Plibbers: “No. I’m on oboe, Elbow.”
“Penny”
Wong: “Sorry. Timpani. Empty vessels are my thing.”
“Katy? …. Katy? …. KATY?”
“Katy’s off crook, Elbow.”
My conclusion, look at the genetic maps in the Isles and note that the DNA of the English tends to suggest they were incredibly alike the people there in Roman times – to be precise, the same local ethnicity, not just the same broad racial phenotype. We know that pre-Roman Britain had similar names in modern-day England and Wales and some of these names exist or have derivatives today.
e.g., the iron age tribe were the Cantiaci and it was named after them and has been called Kent since the “Saxon” times.
Note that the Belgae were also an iron age tribe in pre-Roman and Roman Britain!
Saw a space laser on E-bay.
German made 2019 model.
Newly reconditioned incendiary module.
He wants $400.
What do you think?
Don’t know why the numbers were rendered as hyperlinks.
They were numbers to be turned into Ronan numerals. And spell out words.
Yep, Albo will be earning the big bucks the hard way come QT. Canapes at the AO just a distant memory.
He is on tape confessing directly to the crimes he was indicted with overnight, saying that he knew that he shouldn’t have the documents for national security reasons and that they were still classified. It’s an open-and-shut case.
The Feds would have been negligent if they didn’t indict him. Laws mean something, even for ex-Presidents. It should also be pointed out that Trump himself strengthened the sentencing for those laws. The fool.
He is on tape confessing directly to the crimes he was indicted with overnight, saying that he knew that he shouldn’t have the documents for national security reasons and that they were still classified. It’s an open-and-shut case.
So please arrange for B Hidden to be arrested as has been found out with classified documents in his residence. Oh, and also arrest all those dead Presidents who have done something similar. Then have a good look at Hunter’s Laptop. Then have a good look at Joe’s corrupt business dealings. Then, look under the DemoRat carpet and see what is under there.
Of course not as it is Trump who is the World’s greatest menace and danger to Liberty.
Give me a break you MontyPox Virus and Tosser. FFS.
Saw a space laser on E-bay.
Does it come with a fitting so you can mount it on your car bonnet?
I saw them thar woids, Mother Lode.
Very droll.
Dotsays:
June 10, 2023 at 2:42 pm
NOT ALL of the lowland Scots were probably “English”. The Kingdom of Strathclyde was more “Anglo Saxon” than it was “Pictish” or “Gael”. This started as a joke about lowland Scots and Scots Irish being distinct “languages” from English. They’re not really, it started off as 19th-century Romanticism and devolved into 20th-century English bashing. Is calling the PSNI the Polis Service o Norlin Airlan really indicative of being a separate “language”?
Your memory retention is very poor. Maybe your battery needs re-charging.
The other night you clearly stated that the Lowland Scots were basically English.
I disagreed with you. You FW1.
Song of the week
I’m pretty much resigned to it ending in blood. There’s no real solution to make it stop for some people except being punched in the face. Just look at monty.
He’d quite happly have everyone here killed or jailed if he could, much as he might deny it. Put him in a position of power and the only way to stop him would be force, as there’d always be a justification to try to crush you. Completely incapable of letting others live their life without interference.
I am surprised nobody has mentioned the most obvious crime committed that night in the Defence Ministers office.
Where is the outrage from lady Cats or the leftie sisterhood?
I am talking about Senator Reynolds Carla Zampati jacket that Higgins helped herself to and is shown leaving the building being worn by her.
Isn’t it time we organised a campaign.
#returnthejacketBrittany
Psays:
June 10, 2023 at 3:18 pm
Song of the week
This is Song of the Long Weekend.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVyfq6Da5HQ
Confessing like this?
Document storage violation is about all these DC clowns have. The criminality in law is for cases of espionage.
National security hasn’t been breached anymore than Hillary’s hard drive or Joe’s garage if we go by precedent.
It’s a bust before they start. They know it but that’s not the reason behind the stunt.
Only Monty could take this farrago seriously.
Who’da thought the old Trotkskyist from Camperdown could rise to the top of the steaming pile of Australian politics to hobnob with Australia’s B-grade celebrities at the tennis — to avoid the racial conflagration in central Australia created by his hero Saint Gough — because Little Elbow had become the Top Man at the trade union party, which is guaranteed power in Australia every third election cycle by the country’s convict socialist electorate?
As for the “never have a job again”, they were in the midst of an election campaign which the Libs expected to lose, so continuing employment was unlikely for many of them.
Brown didn’t think so.
She claims to have told Higgins that she would have the opportunity to be working for the Defence Minister after the election.
That’s according to St. Fiona Brown in today’s Weekend Australian.
Higgins wasn’t going to snatch it just to please Brown, so she buckled the nut and went to Perth.
But, yeah, why didn’t Brown/Reynolds give Higgins the flick after the Election?
I think we all know why?
I just got a surprise! A splendid young fellow I know played the pipes for the graduating class of the NT Police.
I had sort of imagined the NT police academy would have had to go on care and maintenance, after the bang-up job done by their last top banana.
Ed Casesays:
June 10, 2023 at 3:33 pm
As for the “never have a job again”, they were in the midst of an election campaign which the Libs expected to lose, so continuing employment was unlikely for many of them.
Head Case and a Suitable Case for Treatment, with your Political acumen why don’t you go and shrill for Ch 9, Ch 7, Ch 10, The ALP ABC, SBS and even a few Radio Stations. You would be a hit and not have to be a Tosser on here any longer.
You know it makes sense………………LOL
Grandpa Cletus
#1. #MeToo was a 2014 thing. Itb had disappeared without trace by 2021.
Which is why Mizzz Knickerless and Graceless Tame were being touted at the NPC as the faces of the movement.
#3. The Book Deal prevented Higgins from doing a Book Deal with anyone else. Has the Fitzsimons book been released yet? You’ll be waiting a long time.
Will Mizzz Knickerless be returning the advance?
#4. Wilkinson woulda known beforehand that she’d won the Logie, so her conversation with Drumgold was misleading dishonest.
That the Cane Toad is a media tart is well known. What is your point?
Jus’ wondrin’:
How did Higgins go from skippin’ down the hall at 1:40 am to comatose and naked on a sofa an hour later?
I could have a pretty good guess, and I’m sure a few others could too.
She sez not true, so let’s move on! Hun:
A clusterphuck is the only way to describe it.
Peanut Head and da bruvvas know it should be him. Albo is the value of time serving and the electoral cycle.
Ed Casesays:
June 10, 2023 at 2:35 pm
If Brown had anything to say worth hearing, she coulda told the Sofronof Inquiry.
What makes you think that she didn’t make a written submission? Have you moved from being a cleaner at Parliament House picking used condoms from the office floor to being the BOI’s records keeper?
Cronkite, what do you think of this, as a lawyer only and nothing else?
Now, he’s not so sure. Since reading the 49-page indictment, which was unsealed on Friday, Dershowitz says, “at least one part of it is somewhat stronger than I had initially believed it would be.” Specifically, the indictment cites a tape recording in which the president allegedly brags to an unnamed person about classified “secret information” in a document about Iran.
“You hear rustling in the papers and then he shows it to this unauthorized writer,” says Dershowitz. “What we don’t know from the tape is whether he shows it to him to read or just shows it to him kind of to show off and say, ‘See? I have this. I’m not going to let you read it but here it is.’”
Illegally sharing classified information goes beyond the charges related to Trump’s illegal possession of classified files at Mar-a-Lago—charges that Dershowitz says could also be applied to Joe Biden, Mike Pence and Hillary Clinton. Trump’s obstruction charges, stemming from an alleged failure to cooperate in returning the documents, are also not sufficient to warrant going after a political opponent. “When the government is trying to get you on a criminal charge, you’re entitled to play hardball,” says Dershowitz.
Who was the person; what was the document; what Trump declassified it; he had the power and right to do do; maybe it was a report about how the mullahs were secretly eating pork; maybe the guy was a pig farmer.
Trump as an ex POTUS had the authority to have this stuff. Biden, pence, shrillary etc did not and apart from pence, who is a back stabber, the rest of them did actual treasonous and corrupt things with what they had illegally.
And don’t forget, who was taping Trump and on what basis.
I await 10/Paramount legals discovering a breach of contract has occurred so they can quickly shove Toadfish out the door. That would be just awesome. Why keep paying the bint a salary for no services rendered?
In Strathclyde, that’s pretty much right. How can the name be older than when the Scottish Gael language was common in the nation that took it over? Lothians certainly spoke a form of old English before Scotland annexed it. Celtic romanticists say it had a Welsh origin in the name of the people and region (and also in Cumbria, even though the place names are passable for modern English too, without diminishing a long history of loanwords).
Then we have the confounding that one of the best candidates for “Arthur” was a Scots Irish (Gael) King who conquered the Gael coast, but better evidence suggests the Gaels simply had a common culture over West Scotland and Northern Ireland centuries before that.
A clusterphuck is the only way to describe it.
Schultz. What did you know?
I know nothing, I know nothing and Colonel Hogan told me to say that.
Err, someone tell Googlery.
She did.
Speaking of clusterphucks, the article below the one I just did, Andrew Rule:
I expect if Olivia from accounts was found naked in someone’s office over the weekend word would eventually filter through too. I’m not sure if knocking off the girls from Ledgers in the NAB Perth Office basement were apocryphal or not. I confirm I had no first hand experience to go on.
In Perf, for a couple of days, while Mme Zulu had more tests. Staying at a rather superior hotel – loading up the car to come home this morning. The “Vote Yes to the Voice” had a stand in front of the hotel.
Some Karen noticed the country number plates, and the “Don’t Welcome Me to my Own Country” bumper sticker, and I got a rather sanctimonious lecture about how this was our chance to right the wrongs that had been done…I called her several rather rude names in reply, but she didn’t speak Afrikaans..
But, yeah, why didn’t Brown/Reynolds give Higgins the flick after the Election?
I think we all know why?
Don’t be coy Grandpa Cletus, tell us. Shower us with your brilliance and insider knowledge.
Just make sure that it isn’t a Golden Shower.
Ed Casesays:
June 10, 2023 at 3:51 pm
Jus’ wondrin’:
How did Higgins go from skippin’ down the hall at 1:40 am to comatose and naked on a sofa an hour later?
I could have a pretty good guess, and I’m sure a few others could too.
Indeed. After Lehrmann rejected her naked advances and fled the scene, she got stuck into the Ministerial Chivas regal and Cadburys Chocolates.
Here’s the Bottom Line:
Labor had known about the Rape Allegation since tbefore the 2019 Election, but didn’t have time to weaponise it.
So, the Liberal Party had another 2 years to make everything sweet with Brittany Higgins and Labor woulda had nuthin’.
Instead, they slowly managed Higgins out of her job for 2 years, hoping she would snatch it and keep quiet.
It hasn’t worked, unless their cunning plan was to lose Government.
Anyway, even if they can nail Gallagher, Wong, Plibersek and Albanese for misleading Parliament, the Female voters are still waiting in Fadden with baseball bats on the 15th of July.
The Ides of Julie, eh.
I think Higgins hails from around there too.
Don’t forget to show your workings Groogs. That is always the best bit.
BB
A clusterphuck is the only way to describe it.
A clusterphuck without an actual phuck?
Both Cassie and I have mentioned the Jacket Outrage.*
For my own part, I could never afford such an item of clothing these days. Apparently it is worth quite a bit. As a matter of principle, I would want it back, if only to donate to one of those charities that equips poorer women trying to re-enter the workforce.
Although, that might conceivably include Lib hopefuls from the last election.
* channelling Alexander Pope, The Rape of the Coat may have been the only “rape” in PH that night
Thanks. Beat me to it.
Yay! I got a 0 for that effort.
I’m back, baby!
That PH drinks cabinet scotch won’t drink itself. Tough work but someone has to do it.
The Zampatti jacket would go nicely with Julie Bishop’s shoes at whatever museum they ended up at. Add an interactive SloMo grave to dance on and I might make the trip myself.
Which hotel? I could go down and call her a tucan moonya and a pukn wojla.
You wonder if Tony [we need more female Uzbek MPs in the Liberal Party] Barry is doing the strategy.
How is bringing Katy Gallagher down going to help the Liberals with women, where they’re stuck in the basement with the lights out?
Yeah, the story is that maybe Higgins got paid overs for her ordeal, but that’s just an appeal to envy.
So, even if it becomes obvious to most Australians that Labor won the election on the back of Higgins story, so effing what?
They’re still stuck with their Woman Problem.
#metoo was running strong in 2016. Remember the Pussy Hats? I was even sent a stupid pattern for one.
It never let up during Trump’s tenure, with all types of detritus coming out of the woodwork along with the #notmypresident stuff.
All disappeared up its own fundament with Covid and BLM and Antifa waiting in the wings for the 2020 campaign.
How these seemingly organic movements were all so well co-ordinated is a mystery. Of sorts.
Sorry Ed. I did you the un-deserved honour of reading some of your post.
Anyone who plays the Great Highland Bagpipe is a spendid chap or chapette. Wish I’d been there to hear it.
The jacket might end up at the Powerhouse museum in the textiles section. Along with Kylie’s lamé hotpants. Cool.
Some Karen noticed the country number plates, and the “Don’t Welcome Me to my Own Country” bumper sticker, and I got a rather sanctimonious lecture about how this was our chance to right the wrongs that had been done…
Although I was more of a firebrand a couple of decades ago, I reckon I could still give some little Miss Emptyhead a few words she wouldn’t forget on that issue.
What’s wrong with telling them in English?
Open the batting by asking them how much of their money/lifestyle they’re prepared to forgo so that the “Voice” may get up.
At this point remind them it’s called the “Invoice” with good reason.
Take it from there.
There’s usually some man-bun or dreadlock type who stands behind the little girlie giving her the courage to really unload some “tolerance” onto you.
It gets better from there on in. Usually because few of them have ever debated the topic & they end up more confused than Britney Higgins in the witness box.
How did Higgins go from skippin’ down the hall at 1:40 am to comatose and naked on a sofa an hour later?
I could have a pretty good guess, and I’m sure a few others could too.
Is that an inference?
This Trump indictment shows one thing, again. The state had all of its resources aimed at Trump not only during his presidency but after it too.
I mean the kenyan had a whole library of secret stuff; shrillary destroyed secret stuff which had been subject to subpoena; biden had garages and offices near the chunk embassy full of secret stuff.
Piers Akerman goes early this weekend:
When you’ve lost Tan Grant…sheesh!
Most of us are white with a similar background to me: mixed British and Irish.
Probably you want to skip over this. However, I will explain why I think I am right and why this actually matters.
I really despise anti-English sentiment, but the anti-Irish sentiment is equally dumb (Ireland has a modern problem of being slowly consumed by woke cancer), the rest of the Isles (Airstrip One) are already terminal.
The following problems with popular history until DNA evidence and ongoing research really invalidate these claims.
1. Gildas wrote 100 – 200+ years after the period he refers to. His writings were spiritual and polemical. He was criticising Welsh Christians (Western rite Catholics as we all were then by default) and blaming the downfall of the Welsh on the Welsh people and church, like a repeat of a biblical prophet warning the Israelites.
2. The Irish at best were proto celtic, and arguably no one in the Isles at all is Celtic.
3. DNA evidence suggests the same people were there in all constituent nations before, during and after the Roman and Anglo-Saxon periods. Early Saxon Kings had “Welsh” names. Modern English place names have Welsh origins, Welsh lived in England for hundreds of years. The Belgae were present in England and the continent before and after the Romans.
4. Romance figures like Arthur are allegorical, semi-religious or may even refer to Scots-Irish kings occupying new Kingdoms on the Scottish and Welsh coasts.
5. The Scots and Welsh raided and annexed English land often and hold some of this until the present day! (Lothian, northern Cumbria).
6. Scots Irish etc are not dissimilar enough to be considered different languages. This is important because it disproves the narrative about the English being complete bastards. It was the Tudors and Cromwell who hurt Ireland. Like as above at 5, it wasn’t just the English rulers stealing land for themselves, it means they chose to speak the language or had spoken a variation of it all along. Who lost what cultural heritage? The Victorians enforced an English-only policy in schools. This is ironic because they thought of English exceptionalism, it appealed to the Hanoverian side of her family and there is evidence that English largely evolved in place. Even if there was a mass Saxon migration over a long period, they were an ethnic minority and their settlement would have mimicked the natural separation of what became English and Welsh. It might be like a future historian assuming that Andalusian Spanish has English roots…
7. The Irish have had several Presidents who were Catholic or Protestant, or irreligious.
8. Churchill offered de Valera full Irish independence and unity and the (southern) Irish Volunteers and Ulstermen in WWII numbered 120,000 (I’ve seen as low as 80,000) in the British Army and 200,000 in WWI.
9. The Victorians had an interest in the Gildas version of history without linguistic, DNA or archeological proof; as do the raving Marxists in Wales, Scotland and Ireland. Let’s not go along with their nonsense.
10. Modern politics is about self-hatred, but by modern standards, justifying the Victorian age because of Germanic invading ancestors is rather weak. Obviously glad to speak English as the other colonisers were a lot worse.
11. The IRA lost the civil war and was a marginal, unpopular force afterwards and relied on COMINTERN and romantic, gullible Americans for funding. They’ve devolved into racketeers now and the PSNI and Gardai coordinate against these fools. The Irish have their own unique (admittedly, authoritarian) courts to deal with the IRA.
I simply don’t like giving the raving “Celtic” anti-English Marxists a pass for folklore over real history nor do I like the idea that the Irish are an evil people. I don’t want to give even passing spiritual comity with the Marxist tools in the land rights game in Australia who want to make white people uncomfortable in their own country (however, some land rights claims are legitimate) nor do I want to write off 40% of Australians (Irish descent) as being descended from evil.
Pussy hats and #I’m With Her…
There is a play coming in the Darwin Festival in August. “I’m With Her” a series of stories of 8 outstanding women. Launched at the Opera House, the original program had an array of pussy hats on the cover.
I saw it in Perth. The person whose story I was tied in with was played by Fiona Stanley, who knew the character when she (Stanley) was a little girl.
Funnily enough, although it was attended by lots of the ‘i’m-oppressed’ whinerati, the show was incredibly powerful about the potential of actual people. I was inspired and rather awed.
If you can, go see it. I think the toxic feminist content is dwarfed by the inspirational lives of the women subjects. There is a whole promotion thing to have it in schools and stuff; would love to see one about inspirational PEOPLE including women, too.
I do plead “Guilty” to thinking of suitable rejoinders, in the car, on the way home. I’ll save that contribution until next time.
Jacketgate!
Chrissays:
June 10, 2023 at 12:39 pm
Even without revolution you need your extremists. They fight.
Unfortunately for us, the Liberal party has been playing along and redefining extreme to anyone with a wiff of right of center.
If the sole opposition to the Vaccine mandates, as I witnessed in the 80,000 plus ( looked like 2 full SCG stadiums) at the Canberra Rally is any indication – we will depend on the working people of Australia (not your university “educated”) – to defend the basic principles of democracy when push comes to shove. It appears to me that they are the only ones who have the nous (ie neutrons capable of detecting BS!) and the gumption to stand up to the those who are contemptuous of opposing beliefs. The rest – that is, the compliant voters who believe government “knows best” don’t appear to have the “right stuff” to take a stand, even if they understood what is happening.
They’re still stuck with their Woman Problem.
Grandpa Cletus still parroting Liars talking points.
But of course. He is a Liars shill, after all. He has to get his social credit points up.
At this point remind them it’s called the “Invoice” with good reason.
They wouldn’t have the intelligence to detect the play on words.
We need to platform Dark Stan here.
The rationalists are typically the absolutists.
Black Ball, many thanks for posting the Andrew Rule piece at 4pm about the corruption at Dandenong Council on behalf of Brett Sutton and the Andrews regime to shut down I Cook Foods.
As I had feared, none of it appeared in the printed version of the Saturday Herald Sun — the only media outlet holding the Andrews regime to account.
This is corruption against which the little people have no voice if the news media is not doing its job of holding the powerful accountable.
Sadly, 99% of the Australian media is little more than a ventriloquist for the Greens and Labor.
Those (southern ) Irishmen who volunteered to serve in the British Army were subject to the most blatant of discrimination in employment and welfare payments for several years after the shooting stopped.
Dover
Just curious. In philosophy does one spend days, weeks or months even debating the meaning and context of words and even propositions? 🙂
media personality Stan Grant
Gold!
At this point remind them it’s called the “Invoice” with good reason.
I used to use against socialists the line that the trouble with Socialism is eventually you run out of other people’s money.
However, more effective is “why would you support the Nazi Party?” and then point out its name was the National Socialist German Workers’ Party.
At least Dandenong Market was back open today, even if the planted rat was in residence. Perhaps it’s a tribute to council staff members?
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRaP5WYzsP2vBSytSwZJSyInxz92HtCWB5img&usqp=CAU
On Jo Nova’s blog:
The Mareeba Shire Council can’t resurface the Bourke Development Road until the only gravel pit in the area provides an Indigenous Land Use Agreement (ILUA) to the State before any more material can be removed from the pit.
ILUAs may include monetary compensation (lump sum, distributed or royalties), employment and training provisions, cultural heritage components, contracting opportunities and environmental preservation and rehabilitation. The agreements are aimed at getting consent from those who hold Native Title over the land and have the same status as a legal contract.
It can only get worse with the Voice™. The full story at:
https://www.theexpressnewspaper.com.au/latest-news/new-rules-halt-gravel-supply-to-repair-road
I’ve been out for a while. Have we solved the pantiless abortion yet?
““Socialism is the philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy.” Winston Churchill.
Calli, the linking of the Zampatti jacket (as worn by Brittnay) with Kylie’s hotpants has left me with a mental image I’d rather not have contemplated… 🙁
True, but they’ve got the dude on that one point, when he told the author the Iran doc wasn’t classified and they have it on tape. According to both the Dersh and Turley this is a problem as all the rest is bullshit. His only way out, I think, is to say that he was bigmouthing to the author and there was nothing to it in he sense that the doc was declassified.
Cronkite, we know there’s now the legal precedent of unequal justice for all, so there’s no sense is carping about it. We need solutions not whining.
Lol, Nelson.
If only she had worn the entire ensemble.
When daring means pointing out the bleeding obvious.
Then again, they could have gone further and pointed out all of today’s Tasmanian aboriginals are in fact white….
Dark Mofo dares to dabble with banned short film
Hobart’s annual winter festival will screen a once-banned short film about a “fake Aborigine”, prompting claims of cultural violence and threats of potential legal action.
Hobart’s winter festival Dark Mofo will screen a once-banned short film about a “fake Aborigine”, prompting claims of cultural violence and threats of potential legal action.
The annual celebration of the winter solstice promises an impressive array of diverse music performances, large-scale art installations and communal feasting, but is again courting controversy.
This Dark Mofo is the last to be curated by creative director for the past decade, Leigh Carmichael, whose previous programming choices have attracted the ire of various community groups. He and his colleagues have once again run toward a contentious artwork rather than away from it.
A recent addition to the program is My Journey, a nine-minute film centred on a fictitious white woman who claims to be of Tasmanian Aboriginal descent, as she prepares to deliver her first Welcome to Country.
As reported by The Australian last month, the work was banned from the GRIT short film festival in Hobart due to concerns about defamation and cultural “harm”.
However, creators Nathan Maynard and Adam Thompson found a new ally in Dark Mofo, which will premiere the film at the Odeon Theatre on June 17, followed by a public Q+A with the filmmakers.
“I dislike seeing any work that isn’t illegal censored,” Carmichael said. “I feel that Dark Mofo is a festival that likes to present – and should present – work that other festivals find difficult to do. I was more than happy to offer a platform to show the work. I’m really pleased that we are able to provide a place for people to present works that are challenging, difficult and may disrupt.”
The Circular Head Aboriginal Corporation, based in the northwest town of Smithton from which the film’s character hails, is often at loggerheads with more longstanding organisations, such as the Tasmanian Aboriginal Centre (TAC).
CHAC spokeswoman Rochelle Godwin said there was concern the film – which she is yet to see – was part of a campaign to deny the Aboriginality of CHAC’s members.
“It is disappointing that Dark Mofo is choosing to become part of that (cultural) violence by choosing to screen it to such a massive audience,” Ms Godwin said.
“It is scary. We are called ‘white pretenders’ by that group (the TAC) every other day… What led Dark Mofo to make the choice to show the film after the GRIT festival determined it had defamatory concerns?”
The Circular Head Aboriginal community was “a proud one who knows its identity”, she said, and would consider legal action if anyone was defamed.
Nathan Maynard said Dark Mofo’s embrace of the film, for which he was “very grateful”, showed GRIT’s concerns were unfounded, while denying it targeted individuals.
“It’s a satirical piece – it’s not about any particular person or group of people; just a type of person,” Maynard said. “It’s a satirical piece – it’s not about any particular person or group of people; just a type of person,” Maynard said.
“In this state, there are 32,000 people who tick a box (by identifying as Aboriginal). We can’t account for more than 12,000,” said Maynard, who with Thompson co-founded the Tasmanian Aboriginal screen company Kutikina Productions.
“There are thousands of people falsely claiming Aboriginality in this country,” he said. “I don’t think a lot of white people realise this is a problem. We live in a really politically correct, charged environment. A lot of white people don’t think they can ask the question.”
Dark Mofo runs until June 22, when the festival will conclude with its annual nude solstice swim on the River Derwent.
Oz, with comments vigorously monitored of course
Liberty quote, JC