Open Thread – Weekend 24 June 2023


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  1. Vicki Avatar
    Vicki

    RFKJ is a brave man and a true patriot.

    He is, Duk. He is also passionate and very, very well informed. Well and good – except for his dedication to the Climate Change nonsense. Too dangerous. Far too dangerous.

  2. MatrixTransform Avatar
    MatrixTransform

    Being expected to take people who claim ‘the virus doesn’t exist’ seriously.

    ahh … the Devine Fallacy

    I am Jack’s Argument from Incredulity

  3. Steve trickler Avatar
    Steve trickler

    Kicker.

    Music video by 10cc performing I’m Not In Love. (C) 1975 Mercury Records Limited.

    10cc – I’m Not In Love-The Virgin Suicides BSO

  4. MatrixTransform Avatar
    MatrixTransform

    if unequal levels of pressure are forced through either end

    cough !!

    another fallacy

    JC knows a bloke who can dumb it down enough for the BComm
    so shut up

    … h8ters

  5. flyingduk Avatar
    flyingduk

    Speaking of absurdum.
    Being expected to take people who claim ‘the virus doesn’t exist’ seriously.

    And you know they do exist how exactly?

    After the last few years, I am prepared to at least question *everything* our wise masters want us to take as gospel.

    Once you realise they lied to you about one thing, you realise they lied to you about other things, maybe even everything.

    Examples:

    – Fiat Currency
    – Inflation: cause and true rate
    – ‘Taxation is the price we pay for a civil society’ (no, its extortion and theft)
    – ‘The rich dont pay their fair share’ – yes they do, they are the only ones who do – it wouldnt ‘redistribute’ wealth if they didnt.
    – Vax ‘safety and effectiveness’ – enough said
    – Statins and the cholesterol hypothesis
    – The Health care industry provides health – no it doesnt, it, along with big food, creates chronic illness and feeds of it
    – The healthy food pyramid – isnt
    – Why we go to war and who are its real benefactors
    – Immigration – if flooding our country with immigrants truly strengthens it, surely it weakens the country they left – is this ethical?
    – Diversity is a strength…. if so, why do our armed forces wear uniforms?, why do we all drive on the same side of the road?
    – Multiculturalism is good – no its not, it creates friction and social accidents (note, multi-culturalism is NOT the same as multi-ethnicity – I dont care where you come from, provided you and I agree on the same basic set of social rules…)

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  6. P Avatar
    P

    Indolent says:
    June 26, 2023 at 7:22 pm

    Italy’s Giorgia Meloni: ‘Religious Liberty Is Not a Second-Class Right’

    Italy’s first female prime minister stated:

    Religious liberty is a natural right and precedes every juridical formulation because it is written in the heart of man. It is a right proclaimed by the Universal Declaration of Human Rights but still today it is trodden underfoot in too many nations in the world, too often in the face of almost total indifference.

    “So it happens that countless men, women, and children not only suffer the pain of seeing themselves deprived of the right to profess their faith but also the humiliation of being ignored,” she said. “This is doubly unacceptable because keeping silent over the denial of religious freedom is tantamount to complicity.”

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  7. rosie Avatar
    rosie

    When all else fails, Eskimos!

  8. Johnny Rotten Avatar

    Indolentsays:
    June 26, 2023 at 7:14 pm
    Australia pledges $100m in new military support for Ukraine, including vehicles and ammunition

    Thank you Tennis Elbow and so nice to see our tax dollars being spent……………………not very well as usual.

    What about the people that live here on this Great Continent? The needy, the needy, the needy, the needy, the needy, the needy……………..The Pensioners (who have paid sheds loads of tax all of their lives when working). the, the, the, the……………….There are so many things that that 100 million could be spent on to help people here. You cannot help the UKR with that money. How about trying to spend some money on assisting a Peace Process? Of course not as you are just incompetent and are no way a Statesman. FFS.

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  9. miltonf Avatar
    miltonf

    Yes Money is one of the most evil men to have ever lived.

  10. rosie Avatar
    rosie

    Recollections of Squatting in Victoria
    By Edward M Curr.

  11. Johnny Rotten Avatar

    – Vax ‘safety and effectiveness’ – enough said

    ‘Safe and Effective’ said the Health Public Serpents and ‘Pollies’ and the ‘WHO’ and the MSM. Yea, right. Wot’ a load of BS.

  12. Boambee John Avatar
    Boambee John

    She said that staff at the hospice wanted to be part of an integrated health service and wished “to take palliative care into the future.”

    Into the “future” of medically assisted (and encouraged) dying?

  13. Sancho Panzer Avatar
    Sancho Panzer

    From the Oz.

    The No campaign’s Indigenous leaders have criticised comments made on the ABC’s flagship weekend politics program, Insiders, about “ongoing genocide” of Indigenous Australians.

    Dana Morse, a federal politics reporter for the national broadcaster, made the comments on Sunday’s program, while speaking about the Indigenous voice to parliament and its proposed powers.

    Then on SBS just now.
    An advert for “The Voice Roadshow”.
    The host (who looks like he has been into sTan’s cosmetics) asks, “Is the referendum giving rise to increased racism?”
    I suspect I know the answer.

  14. Megan Avatar
    Megan

    Luckily our place makes it very difficult in numerous ways. Won’t say

    If any would be thief was attempting to easily find a cash or jewellery stash within Villa Megan they would need to allocate several days to the task. Lots of rooms, a loft, a couple of moderately sized outbuildings and a female co-owner who is a black belt master of household Tetris.

    These days, in fact, accumulated birthdays have resulted in me not remembering where the stashes if a holiday is longer than two weeks in duration. Good luck, light-fingered peoples.

  15. Ed Case Avatar
    Ed Case

    And that is NOT stupid to advertise. Or to make people aware of.

    Have you ever commented under your real name?
    Are you on the Electoral Roll?
    At 70 years old, do you really think you ‘d get the better of a burglar who learnt to fight in jail?
    Dickhead.

  16. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha Avatar
    Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    “Is the referendum giving rise to increased racism?”

    I don’t know. “You white counts gonna sit up and take notice when we get the Voice.”

  17. chrisl Avatar
    chrisl

    I make sure to have a stash of cash in jam jars.
    Unfortunately my wife keeps finding the jam jars !

  18. Sancho Panzer Avatar
    Sancho Panzer

    chrislsays:

    June 26, 2023 at 7:58 pm

    I make sure to have a stash of cash in jam jars.
    Unfortunately my wife keeps finding the jam jars !

    Milo tins.
    Marked “Greasy Engine Oil”.

  19. shatterzzz Avatar
    shatterzzz

    Is the Slovenian Hag plibbers? And is the consensus that she is most likely to take over from rub and tug

    She may covert the job but she’ll never get it .. the drug dealer is the albatross around her neck for all her political life .. that’s why she took her son to the troughers shindig .. the dealer ain’t on the guest list ..

  20. shatterzzz Avatar
    shatterzzz

    Wow! .. things have really speeded up .. I gave up around 4-ish after timing out 3 times …….!

  21. Dot Avatar

    I wonder if this was an attempt to set him up and charge him with breaching a restraining order by (unwittingly) being in close proximity to one of the complainants.
    As Cassie says, it seems like we might have had a zealot on the case.

    DS Turbomong, I presume?

  22. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha Avatar
    Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Melbourne crime: Private security firms patrol streets to stop residential burglaries

    Melbourne residents are pooling their money and hiring private security guards to patrol the streets and combat crime. See which suburbs have dedicated patrol vehicles.

    From the Hun.

  23. Zatara Avatar
    Zatara

    I think it is wise to have some casho for any such unknown and sudden event, even a natural one such as a weather disaster etc.

    While considered outdated in our modern world of magical plastic/electronic thingees, I find keeping a few traveler’s checks around can be handy in an emergency.

    Yes, there are fees involved but when there is no alternative…

  24. Dot Avatar

    Dana Morse, a federal politics reporter for the national broadcaster, made the comments on Sunday’s program, while speaking about the Indigenous voice to parliament and its proposed powers.

    Um bro, Dana, you just might be a huwite supreme pizza.

    https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/02/19/23/67859171-11770005-image-m-23_1676849732811.jpg

    bruh

    What a Turbomong, what’s she gonna do, report herself to the ICJ for crimes against Hugh Manatee?

  25. Bar Beach Swimmer Avatar
    Bar Beach Swimmer

    Just watching Fred Pawle on ADH TV. It seems that none of the on-line betting companies have a book on da voice. Fred pointed out there’s currently an inquiry into the betting “industry” which is soon to deliver its findings. Could there be a connection, asks Fred?

  26. feelthebern Avatar
    feelthebern

    When a 69 man takes too much testosterone, bad things happen.

  27. Cassie of Sydney Avatar
    Cassie of Sydney

    At work today I walked into the kitchen to make a cup of tea and there were three young women, all university educated, standing around excitedly talking about how they’d bought Taylor Swift ticket this morning, and then one young women said that how everyone in Australia has bought a ticket.

    To which I said, archly, “not me”.

    They stopped talking.

  28. Dot Avatar

    With everyone claiming to be black these days, this reminded me of a few old skits of a hard-working Aussie guy who couldn’t get a break in more serious acting roles after being typecast.

    “NO, I’M SPARTACUS, NO I REALLY AM!”

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPdgbSdtKVE

    Tuckerbags Acting Career | Fast Forward

  29. Roger Avatar
    Roger

    Reported in QLD news today:

    ‘The Coroners Court in Brisbane on Monday held a pre-inquest conference into the death of Ashley Charles Washington, 31, on December 13, 2020 in Toowoomba.

    His family members, who listened to proceedings by phone, requested he be referred to during the inquest as Ashley.

    Counsel assisting Sarah Lio-Willie said a home owner in the suburb of Mount Lofty discovered Ashley at 6.35pm allegedly trying to remove items from the home including sunglasses, surgical scissors and cash.

    Ashley left the property wearing only a pair of shorts and became aggressive towards the home owner who had followed him into the street.

    A lone officer and his police dog Turbo in a marked police vehicle located Ashley about 6.55pm.

    The officer called out to Ashley to get on the ground but he made unintelligible noises and walked away.

    Turbo made contact with Ashley’s arm and chest, and he stabbed the dog repeatedly with the surgical scissors, causing the dog to retreat to the police vehicle.

    “(The officer) then deployed his Taser, which caused Ashley to fall to the ground briefly and he was directed to put his hands behind his back,” Ms Lio-Willie said.

    While the officer attempted to restrain him, Ashley struck the officer in the face and arm with the scissors.

    The officer used his Taser on Ashley again, causing him to fall to the ground, and then radioed that he had been stabbed and requested assistance.

    “(The officer) continued to cycle the Taser for four rounds,” Ms Lio-Willie said.

    Five other officers arrived and placed Ashley in handcuffs and pushed his legs towards his buttocks but he continued to yell and spit blood.

    Paramedics administered a sedative and Ashley’s heart rate went into rapid decline followed by cardiac arrest after he was put in an ambulance,

    Paramedics performed CPR but Ashley was declared dead at Toowoomba Base Hospital at 8.01pm.

    The first responding officer and Turbo recovered from their injuries.

    All of Ashley’s encounters with police and paramedics were captured on body-worn cameras.

    A forensic examination of his body showed injuries from a Taser to the back of his neck, right upper arm, left upper buttock and right thigh.

    Ashley had suffered from coronary atherosclerosis but there were no signs of an allergic reaction to the sedative.

    He also had methamphetamine in his system in the toxic or lethal ranges.

    In a post-Voice world, what chance would the police stand?

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  30. cohenite Avatar
    cohenite

    She may covert the job but she’ll never get it .. the drug dealer is the albatross around her neck for all her political life .. that’s why she took her son to the troughers shindig .. the dealer ain’t on the guest list ..

    Yet the bastard is arguably the most senior bureaucrat in NSW, and has been for yonks, including a stint as head of the education department.

  31. Crossie Avatar
    Crossie

    Steve Price who is sitting in for Chris Kenny on Sky tonight definitely reads the Cat. He was just using the same reasons for having cash on hand as our own commenters.

  32. feelthebern Avatar
    feelthebern

    Took the Range Rover on its first real road trip.
    It’s the first diesel vehicle I’ve owned.
    I was concerned how much fuel I was ripping through driving it around town.
    But on the open road, the thing uses bugger all fuel.

  33. Cassie of Sydney Avatar
    Cassie of Sydney

    I wish they’d give the Blot timeslot to Price.

  34. Crossie Avatar
    Crossie

    OK, maybe not Steve Price reading the Cat but I wouldn’t be surprised if the producers don’t monitor what is said, as a test of sentiment of conservative voters.

  35. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha Avatar
    Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    and then one young women said that how everyone in Australia has bought a ticket.

    Who’s Taylor Swift?

  36. Bar Beach Swimmer Avatar
    Bar Beach Swimmer

    Who’s Taylor Swift?

    Zulu, you forgot part two of that question: who cares?

  37. Crossie Avatar
    Crossie

    Cassie of Sydney says:
    June 26, 2023 at 8:39 pm
    I wish they’d give the Blot timeslot to Price.

    Yes, Bolt has been back only a few days and already he is falling into his bad habits. He had Greg Sheridan on tonight who was so obnoxious I had to change the channel.

  38. shatterzzz Avatar
    shatterzzz

    I make sure to have a stash of cash in jam jars.

    I keep it in a hole in the back garden .. the size of my back garden without a treasure map you’d need a shovel and be, bloody, fit .. odds are you’d have more chance winning Lotto than getting lucky .. LOL!

  39. shatterzzz Avatar
    shatterzzz

    Oops! .. spoke too soon! .. timed out AGAIN! soooooooooo night, night , all! ………

  40. Bar Beach Swimmer Avatar
    Bar Beach Swimmer

    Now watching Alexandra Marshall on ADH TV who is interviewing Jo Nova.

  41. feelthebern Avatar
    feelthebern

    I’m referring to RFK Jr regarding testosterone.
    No matter what his diet & exercise regime looks like, a 69 year old can not have that much muscle mass without a regular T shots.
    He’s over doing it.
    Will cause his demise.

  42. 2dogs Avatar
    2dogs

    Who’s Taylor Swift?

    Isn’t he that IT security guy?

  43. Crossie Avatar
    Crossie

    Bar Beach Swimmer says:
    June 26, 2023 at 8:43 pm
    Who’s Taylor Swift?
    Zulu, you forgot part two of that question: who cares?

    I just don’t get the Taylor Swift hysteria. All her music sounds the same and she dresses for stage as if she is about to dive into a pool. The only things missing are swimming goggles. I think she is trying hard to replicate the Beyoncé vibe.

  44. Cassie of Sydney Avatar
    Cassie of Sydney

    “Yes, Bolt has been back only a few days and already he is falling into his bad habits. He had Greg Sheridan on tonight who was so obnoxious I had to change the channel.”

    I refuse to watch Blot anymore. I watched his programme whilst he was on holidays. Now that’s he’s back, I just can’t. Like Sheridan, he’s an idiot and a dribbler of shite.

  45. Mark from Melbourne Avatar
    Mark from Melbourne

    Hint – it’s not a secret stash if you tell everybody.

    Anybody.

  46. Crossie Avatar
    Crossie

    shatterzzz says:
    June 26, 2023 at 8:44 pm
    I make sure to have a stash of cash in jam jars.

    I keep it in a hole in the back garden .. the size of my back garden without a treasure map you’d need a shovel and be, bloody, fit .. odds are you’d have more chance winning Lotto than getting lucky .. LOL!

    Is this how you get the neighbours to dig the garden for you?

  47. Boambee John Avatar
    Boambee John

    The Prick-goes-in rebellion was the fastest flash in the pan for years.

    Prick-goes-in rapidly became Prick-goes-away.

    Poor mUnty is still in a state of shock, inhaling large quantities of Copium and Seethium.

  48. feelthebern Avatar
    feelthebern

    Probably been posted a million times.

    Ben Ramanauskas
    @BenRamanauskas
    REMEMBER: It’s only a coup if it comes from the coup d’etat region of France. What’s happening in Moscow right now is a sparkling insurrection.

  49. Lee Avatar

    I refuse to watch Blot anymore. I watched his programme whilst he was on holidays. Now that’s he’s back, I just can’t. Like Sheridan, he’s an idiot and a dribbler of shite.

    Are they both still pushing the gung ho, pro-war stuff?

  50. Dot Avatar

    ???

    Criminal investigation into Prigozhin continues – Russian media reports

    RIA Novosti, the Russian state-owned news agency, is reporting that the criminal case against Yevgeny Prigozhin over the mutiny has not been dropped. It was reported at the weekend that investigation into him would be closed as part of the deal that brought the march on Moscow to an end. RIA posted to Telegram to say:

    The criminal case against Prigozhin has not been terminated, a source in the prosecutor general’s office told RIA Novosti.

    Just like the “march for justice” there is an air of unreality about this as well.

  51. Jorge Avatar
    Jorge

    standing around excitedly talking about how they’d bought Taylor Swift ticket this morning …

    The Project tonight devoted a segment to fans – exclusively female -incoherent with excitement about it all. Ticket website crashed an hour before opening. She’s yuuuge. Nice looking gal, very kickass, good for her when you think about Britney Spears and that poor Jewish girl (rehab, I said no, no, no) who succumbed to heroin.

  52. Bar Beach Swimmer Avatar
    Bar Beach Swimmer

    Crossie @ 8:50pm, not that I’ve spent any time seeking out her music but she does remind me of that other “great pop diva” (btw, how loose has the usage of that word “diva” become) – Celine Dion – who, again, I couldn’t name one single song of hers.

  53. MatrixTransform Avatar
    MatrixTransform

    all my wealth is in diamonds
    they’re in the laundry mixed with the epsom salt

  54. Crossie Avatar
    Crossie

    feelthebern says:
    June 26, 2023 at 8:52 pm
    Probably been posted a million times.

    Ben Ramanauskas
    @BenRamanauskas
    REMEMBER: It’s only a coup if it comes from the coup d’etat region of France. What’s happening in Moscow right now is a sparkling insurrection.

    Still makes me laugh each time and reminds me of Seaview who lost the French court case and had to stop labelling their wine champagne. The other Australian winemakers complied at that point so as not to get sued as well.

  55. Lee Avatar

    The Prick-goes-in rebellion was the fastest flash in the pan for years.

    Prick-goes-in rapidly became Prick-goes-away.

    Poor mUnty is still in a state of shock, inhaling large quantities of Copium and Seethium.

    M0nty was practically wanking himself at the thought of Prigozhin advancing on Moscow yesterday.

    As I have said before, anyone who replaces Putin at this stage will almost certainly be worse.

    Quite possibly much, much worse.

  56. Ed Case Avatar
    Ed Case

    OK, maybe not Steve Price reading the Cat but I wouldn’t be surprised if the producers don’t monitor what is said, as a test of sentiment of conservative voters.

    Very few conservative at New Catallaxy, and what there is, don’t say much.
    Now, if you wanna monitor the opinions of Labor/Greens shills larping as conservatives …

  57. Delta A Avatar
    Delta A

    Daughter informed me of a petition by LGBQ yada-yada to make medial costs of transition fully covered by MediCare. In excessof 100,000 names already. Now there’s a counter petition. Need more signatures.

    Petition.

  58. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha Avatar
    Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    I’m watching Thomas Mayo, professing respect for the elders of the Communist Party. Mate, there are veterans in this part of the world, who used to shoot blakfellas who professed to be Communists…

  59. Bar Beach Swimmer Avatar
    Bar Beach Swimmer

    Delta, that link didn’t work.

  60. Lee Avatar

    Daughter informed me of a petition by LGBQ yada-yada to make medial costs of transition fully covered by MediCare.

    If they want it, they can pay full costs themselves.

    Taxpayers shouldn’t have to fund their mentally ill lifestyle choices.

  61. Speedbox Avatar
    Speedbox

    I knew it, I knew it, I knew it.

    It’s those pesky Jewish people again. According to RT, Israeli officials have shown “blatant disregard of moral boundaries,” Kiev’s embassy in Tel Aviv claims.

    Ukraine’s Embassy in Tel Aviv has lashed out at Israel, accusing the country of providing insufficient support to Kiev amid the conflict with Moscow, and bolstering ties with Russia instead.

    In a statement posted on Facebook on Sunday, the Ukrainian mission noted “with regret that the current Israeli government has chosen the path of close cooperation with Russia.”

    There has been “complete inaction in providing Ukraine with defensive assistance over the past one-and-a-half years” on the part of the Jewish state, the statement read.

    The embassy accused Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu of making “entirely fictional and speculative assumptions” in order to justify inaction by his government.

    While most “democratic” countries have sanctioned Russia over its military operation in Ukraine, Israel has not only refrained from joining the restrictions, but – on the contrary – increased trade with Moscow, the Ukrainian embassy said.

    “In reality, on the ground, the so-called ‘neutrality’ of Israeli government should be viewed as a clear pro-Russian position,” it stressed.

    Israeli newspaper Haaretz described the statement as the harshest criticism of Israel by Ukraine since the start of the conflict between Moscow and Kiev in February 2022.

    Ukrainian envoy Evgeny Korniychuk has repeatedly complained of insufficient support from Israel. Last year, he told the journalists: “you can’t imagine how difficult it is for me to be ambassador to Israel if my president [Vladimir Zelensky] is a Jew – because he has much higher expectations of Israel than Israel can deliver.”

    So, there you have it. Yet another problem caused by Israel. Cassie – get in here.

    🙂 🙂 🙂

    https://www.rt.com/russia/578679-ukraine-embassy-israel-netanyahu/

  62. cohenite Avatar
    cohenite

    That link to Jo Nova discussing why the alarmists are winning the climate war on ADH TV beginning at -35 minutes:

    https://watch.adh.tv/videos/watch-adh-tv

    Fu.king google won the battle for the alarmists and now we have a generation of green washed kiddies running amuck to save the world from a non-existent problem.

  63. Boambee John Avatar
    Boambee John

    Lee

    M0nty was practically wanking himself at the thought of Prigozhin advancing on Moscow yesterday.

    Waddya mean “practically”?

  64. Boambee John Avatar
    Boambee John

    Now, if you wanna monitor the opinions of Labor/Greens shills larping as conservatives …

    You read the drivel posted by Turd Case.

  65. Razey Avatar
    Razey

    M0nty was practically wanking

    Practically?

  66. Boambee John Avatar
    Boambee John

    Razey

    Snap.

  67. GreyRanga Avatar
    GreyRanga

    Signed

  68. MatrixTransform Avatar
    MatrixTransform

    Practically?

    honestly, every time mUnty types something
    I can pretty much imagine a piston and crankshaft
    it’s that powerful

  69. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha Avatar
    Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    For Thomas Mayo and the elders of his rotten, stinking Communist Party.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynIoNEGcEhE

  70. Knuckle Dragger Avatar
    Knuckle Dragger

    I make sure to have a stash of cash in jam jars.
    Unfortunately my wife keeps finding the jam jars !

    Milo tins.
    Marked “Greasy Engine Oil”.

    Or – or, hear me out – marked either:
    ‘Can of Whoop-Ass’
    ‘Can of Putting the Bins Out’

  71. MatrixTransform Avatar
    MatrixTransform

    powerful … like a dachshund with two dicks

  72. Alamak! Avatar
    Alamak!

    basic math theory show that:

    practically + wanking == wanking.

  73. Barking Toad Avatar
    Barking Toad

    petition signed

  74. Knuckle Dragger Avatar
    Knuckle Dragger

    The ICC World Cup one-day qualifying events are on Focks.

    Currently the USA team are 6/45, including two horrendously entertaining run outs, after 11 overs.

    They are chasing Zimbabwe’s total of 409.

    That’s how shit the US cricket team is.

  75. Mother Lode Avatar
    Mother Lode

    So, when Wagner’s was swooping in on Moscow…did they play the music?

  76. Crossie Avatar
    Crossie

    Indolent says:
    June 26, 2023 at 10:19 pm
    What the Left Has Left for America

    What the Left now fears most is the revolutionary model it has bequeathed to America—and what might happen if its monstrous creation falls into politically incorrect hands.

    And that is why Republicans will not win another election in my lifetime.

  77. Morsie Avatar
    Morsie

    Fl I cking through the channels,Australia Story was about an activistcampaigning for the Voice.
    Surely that breaches their guidelines.
    No doubt ne t weeks will be about an activistcampaigni g against the Voice,no doubt.
    A s to Mr P,ibbers he has been appointed to senior positions by liberal as well as Labor.
    Makes it hard or well nigh impossible to use him for campaign I ng.

  78. Alamak! Avatar
    Alamak!

    So, when Wagner’s was swooping in on Moscow…did they play the music?

    This Wagner opera is not over yet, it has barely begun.

    I guess they played one of the preludes

  79. Zatara Avatar
    Zatara

    Is nothing sacred?

    Mama Mia! NYC rules crack down on coal, wood-fired pizzerias — must cut carbon emissions up to 75%

    Historic Big Apple pizza joints could be forced to dish out mounds of dough under a proposed city edict targeting “pollutant-spewing” coal-and-wood-fired ovens

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