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Tipped in a few quid, myself.
The Rising Tide imbecile is even too much for Jayes on Sky AM. Wow, I’m lost for words as she…
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Hahahahahahahhaaha So true.
If I was the Wagner boss I wouldn’t go into buildings with more than 1 storey. Seriously it might of been a pay dispute. The monthly cheque to Wagner didn’t arrive or bounced or wasn’t for the ‘right’ amount.
Looks like 1917 Redux never got past the pitch meeting.
Peter Zeihan’s take on the coup https://youtu.be/TZJok9oBrs8 .
Note to Dumbocrats: this is what a real insurrection looks like.
Piers Akerman:
James Campbell writes:
Morning Cats, how’s the Russian Civil War going?
Oh …
Lovely updates calli.
Speedboxsays:
June 24, 2023 at 4:13 pm
Bernard Montgomery: “Rule 1, on page 1 of the book of war, is: “Do not march on Moscow”. Various people have tried it, Napoleon and Hitler, and it is no good.”
The Swedes had a bit of a shot as well.
Beetrooter has relevance deprivation syndrome. What did he do when he had the leadership last time? Nothing. What will he do should he wangle himself in again? Nothing.
m0ntysays:
June 24, 2023 at 10:10 pm
There has to be a better alternative than the binary of Tsarism and Stalinism. There is no existential threat to Russia, it is always going to exist. Maybe when the current regime changes, the rebuild can include some new institutions which have some meaning.
“To dream the impossible dream ….”
They tried that in the 1990s. The results were less than optimal.
jupessays:
June 25, 2023 at 7:50 am
Morning Cats, how’s the Russian Civil War going?
Oh …
There never was a Civil War. There was an uncivil disagreement between two parties. Games seemingly over…………….for the time being.
Don’t March on Moscow…but the truth is that it’s the winter that gets you, every time.
Worth considering that it’s only a couple of days past the summer solstice, right now.
I see what you did there.
Go f#ck yourself, you slandering arseh8le.
And stay away from children.
Social media was going crazy over night.
Then it all stopped.
What happened?
Ha fatboy, I didn’t know Klaus Schwab and Bill Gates are Jewish.
The truth of the matter is that you always know the right thing to do. The hard part is doing it.
– Norman Schwarzkopf
Dotsays:
June 24, 2023 at 11:05 pm
If Putin is toppled we don’t know who has control of the nukes.
That’s why this “let’s break up Russia” gloat is pure spite and insincere.
It’s worse than that. It’s completely, mUnty/Turd Case standard, stupid.
Yesterday’s freedom fighters became today’s terrorists.
Some hilarious commentary re events in Russia last night.
Seems mØnty was mainlining Occasional Cortex.
Sources have revealed – Prigozhin marched on Rostov after Zelensky sent details of his asset and share portfolio to the Wagner leader, with a taunt.
“My sugar daddy is better than yours”
m0ntysays:
June 24, 2023 at 11:54 pm
I doubt the nukes are in play until we figure out who will be leader.
“Wishin’ and a -hopin’ and prayin’ …”
It Prick-goes-in takes over, you will look back on the Putin days with regret for your arrogant stupidity.
Wasn’t the pervert apologist and Fisky getting all excited last night at the thought of Prigozhin marching all the way to Moscow? I laughed out loud before I went to bed, and being tired, I went to bed, exhausted by a week, and particularly of familial drama.
This morning I awoke to the news that..
“Wagner Group leader Yevgeny Prigozhin will be exiled to Belarus in a deal agreed with Russia after standing down his fighters.
Oh well, I can’t say I’m surprised by this outcome, because even I knew Prigozhin wasn’t going to get anywhere near Moscow. But reading upthread, I note how our very own doyen of Russian history, Generalissimo Munchkin of a Melbourne Basement, aka as the “pervert apologist”, is now suddenly an expert on Russian history and the Russian psyche. Perhaps Munchkin, in a previous life, gave advice, obviously in hindsight very bad advice, to the French, German, Polish, and Swedish armies over the last four hundred years, armies which all failed dismally in their various and many conquests of Russia. But I note how our new found expert on all things Russian wrote this pearler of a sentence ..
“There has to be a better alternative than the binary of Tsarism and Stalinism. There is no existential threat to Russia, it is always going to exist. Maybe when the current regime changes, the rebuild can include some new institutions which have some meaning.”
Well, I laughed out loud reading this lame attempt at seriousness by our resident progressive toad. However, we might ask exactly what “institutions which have some meaning” the pervert apologist means? He clearly possesses little to no knowledge about Russian history. Notwithstanding that Russia already has institutions that have ‘some meaning’, institutions like the Russian Orthodox Church that go back a thousand years, institutions that managed to survive the almost hundred years of Communism, I found his line profoundly ignorant of Russian history and the Russian psyche, and it also revealed his progressive mindset that the only “institutions” he respects or he wants built are those of the left, are those that he approves of. So what does he really mean when he writes “include some new institutions which have some meaning”? Perhaps the pervert apologist wants Russian schools to open up to LGBTIAP+ ideology (and I insert the letter “P” deliberately), like what is happening in the West where they are now openly grooming children to be sexual toys for adults? Perhaps the pervert apologist is okay with children in Russian schools identifying as Cats and their fetish being given credit by teachers, like what is happening in the West? Perhaps the pervert apologist thinks Russian males, with their dicks swinging from their groin, be allowed to enter female only spaces, where and when their dicks suddenly and curiously harden up (wonder why), posing a threat to the women and children inside that bathroom or changeroom, like what is happening in the West? I could go on, but you get the drift, because I can guarantee you that when the pervert apologist delicately writes about “new institutions which have some meaning”, he ain’t talking about strengthening the Orthodox church, building institutions like Rotary, Girl Guides, Boy Scouts and so on, is he? Nah, nah, nah. When he writes about building ‘new institutions which have some meaning’, he means institutions only he and his fellow ideological travellers approve of. But his pathetic attempt at being serious begs the question, isn’t wanting to create “new institutions which have some meaning” in a foreign country what was once called ‘imperialism and colonialism’ by the left, and once disapproved of by the left? But I should remind everyone that the progressive left of 2023 bears zero resemblance to the left of even 1993. So, it’s good to know that our resident progressive doesn’t mind some colonialism and imperialism, but only when it’s deemed progressive colonialism and progressive imperialism. What a hypocrite he is.
Two final points…
1. The best commentator here on Russia is Speedbox, by a mile.
2. Yevgeny Prigozhin is a dead man walking. Russian leaders hunt down mutineers, from Ivan the Terrible, to Peter the Great, to Nicholas I, to Stalin, and to Putin. Nobody calls for a march on Moscow and lives, and Prigozhin knows it. He’s on borrowed time.
There will be no repercussions after they are dead.
The Umbrellas of Cherbourg has disappeared from the list of Yevgeny Prigozhin’s favourite movies.
“Some hilarious commentary re events in Russia last night.”
I think you’ve said it best DB.
Babasays:
June 25, 2023 at 3:54 am
Oh no! What a disaster! It’s over. Possibly.
https://www.rt.com/russia/578632-wagner-agrees-to-end-insurrection/
Will Prick-goes-in withdraw before ejaculating?
Wagner has mercs in a number of African countries.
Wonder what the impact will be there. Are they working in Wagner interests or for Russian?
School Fees 2.0.
Mexico City is a no-go too.
Allegra Spender is telling Sky that families and communities are hurting and that the government should go in harder. Neither she nor the gormless interviewer even acknowledge why prices are up, for electricity, housing, mortgages. Looking into it would show that their current policies are killing cheap fossil fuel power generation and importing millions of migrants is driving the price of housing Sky high.
It’s all a mystery to almost everyone in any government and in media while perfectly clear to the non-PhD voters. We need Poirot’s little grey cells to solve the case, or even Miss Marple to unravel it for them.
The take-away really is that it’s in the interests of politicians’ mates to keep receiving the subsidies and work contracts. There are billions to be made fleecing the taxpayers.
Weird day yesterday. Like a GoT episode. Or a remake of Kelly’s Heroes.
“JCsays:
June 25, 2023 at 3:22 am”
Yep, yep and yep.
I am really quite pleased I didn’t offer up any commentary on the Wussian Wevolution.
Vikki can put the kids in care and get a job like they have made it almost mandatory for every working class family. An occasional article in the Daily Telegraph the Australian is not work, it’s like indulging in social media. When she is earning close to what the Beetrooter does then there will be parity. They could, of course, always enrol the kids in the nearest public school, I hear it’s free.
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Any journalist in this country who is not chasing down the Hunter Biden coverup story as laid out in Shapley and other whistleblower testimony is a fraud. This makes Watergate look like kindergarten play.
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Called it … 18 hrs ago.
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“I am really quite pleased I didn’t offer up any commentary on the Wussian Wevolution.”
Vewy wise SP. I’m reminded of the fates of Kolchak, Denikin, and others.
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End game in the Ukraine war approaches with lightning speed
Indeed.
Unlike monty whose Wagner Viagra has worn off this morning.
Back to the usual flaccidity.
Watching the media avoid calling the Wagner insurrection an insurrection
Cassie
2. Yevgeny Prigozhin is a dead man walking. Russian leaders hunt down mutineers, from Ivan the Terrible, to Peter the Great, to Nicholas I, to Stalin, and to Putin. Nobody calls for a march on Moscow and lives, and Prigozhin knows it. He’s on borrowed time.
1. Prick-goes-in should be watchful for drinks waiters with the ice bucket.
2. Good summary in your full comment.
Everything is under control, Sleazy has a plan.
T’was a feculent cup best avoided.
The Leftard definition of ‘tolerance’ means to ‘lower ones moral standard’.
So does this whole Wagner’s thing leave Putin stronger within Russia, or weaker?
Well, I suppose he has seen off a threat and will now be able to punish people as a lesson to others even within the actual military. But he has also let weaknesses be seen and later attempts will calculate with additional insight.
These are very generic ideas which may or may not, to one degree or another, apply to the real Russia and the real Pute.
Curious to see what other cars make of it.
Says the guy who will never feel the effects of any Finance Shock. These people are real degenerates.
Has anyone seen Prigozhin and Pope Francis in he same room at the same time?
On the Prigozhen brain snap, what all should notice was that while it all went on the Russian people remained calm and patriotic to their nation and Putin. Also, citizens milling around PMC troops looked quite at ease. There was no rising up against the state or demonstrative opposition. Prigozhen had a beef with Putin but the Russian people’s sympathies remained steady for Russia and Russians.
Russians appear content with how Putin is managing their country, rightly or wrongly.
How easy does it get for the media to mislead folk with their doom & gloom predictions ? ..
I was reading earlier a story on mortgage default (can’t link as I forgot where it was) .. anyway, the upshot of it was focussing on 3 suburbs around Oz that are showing the highest default levels ..
One of these suburbs is BONNYRIGG in Sydney’s south-west but what the media doesn’t waste time on is the why this area is a target for default ..
Bonnyrigg is next door to me so I know all about the place .. during Bob Carr’s reign Bonnyrigg was a high profile “houso’ drug estate (we specialize in them out here .. LOL!) .. in fact things got sooo bad that Bobby realised there were soo many drug dealers that HC had no idea who, actually, was a legitimate tenant as opposed to a “freebie ring-in” so he came up with the idea of “gradual” re-development .. ie: knock it down in stages and rebuild as a private/houso estate .. and this is what has been happening over the past 15 years .. slow but eventual .. the gummint way considering 2 major builders went broke over this estate so lotza delays ..
Anywayz, it’s now about 3/4s finished and the crack are starting to appear money-wize .. to entice folk to buy into such a bad reputation area the gummint offered all sorts of financial incentives and buyers flocked to the “free” money …
Now, of course, with the interest rates and general finance tightening a lot of folk who normally wouldn’t have had the money except for the additional gummint “freebies” are starting to feel the pinch ….
End result .. Bonnyrigg is now classed as a high default area but no media finger pointing at gummint involvement just another tale of post BAT FLU money woes to brighten a Sunday morning …….!
Loved Calli’s 1:13 am.
Tattoos have not aged well as a phenom.
Poor souls who got them.
I will note that my ‘trusted sources’ did rather well. Always good to use these events to calibrate their accuracy and prudence. The ‘not trusted sources’, some included overnight, not so well.
Are Monty, Fisky and Dot currently on top of a T72 entering Moscow?
Yellowstone River train bridge collapse is a disgrace for the richest country in human history.
Infrastructurally, the joint is falling apart – as neocon loonies blow trillions abroad.
What’s the aftermath following whatever this was? Wagner absorbed into RuAF and under RuMOD command ( but not those men involved in mutiny). Prigohzin exiled. We still don’t know if Shoigu remains as head of RuMOD or resigns, but if did go and was replaced by Surovikin not sure if any of this counts as a loss for Putin.
Would it be considered crass to take bets on how many weeks before Wagner boss dies and manner of his passing?
How many weeks or months?
Car accident
Gun
Knife
Poison
Building fall
Culprit
One of his own men
Russian
Belorussian
CIA or other foreign spy mob
Pee or get off the pot, I think.
Arky last night:
Yes. This has always struck me as odd. The time for mainstreaming the Russian war effort was about six months ago. The Ukrainians have also had in-house troubles – Zelensky reputedly having been threatened with death if he negotiated, and the hard men of Azov accusing the sainted midget of treachery and incompetence etc (on Facebook).
As for Prigozhin, the erratic purse snatcher is still a threat if he is allowed to build a HQ in Belarus.
Adams funeral song, Doug Murray, You are soul. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXzGQld1tY8
I am very happy the deranged neoconservative and progressive vision of Russia broken up in a civil war with tens of new nuclear states, some with strange or murderous ideologies never eventuated.
Are we likely to see much of the Fat Fascist Fool today?
Colonel Plumski.
Lead pipe.
Library.
Next Wednesday.
No. You can’t downplay his statements in the last 48 hours. He challenged the legitimacy of the war and said all but in name he was going to depose of Putin. If he really said what was reported he said about Shoigu he’s a marked man and either way if he’s still sane should try to get out of Belarus ASAP. Putin could always change his mind.
Daily Mail.
In 6 months or so Prigozhin will die after a short illness. It will be interesting to see any changes to how the Russian MoD now prosecutes the Ukraine war. There is also the (weak?) possibility this was a maskirovka to test Kremlin loyalties,
uptick
I am very happy the deranged neoconservative and progressive vision of Russia broken up in a civil war with tens of new nuclear states, some with strange or murderous ideologies never eventuated.
me too- as CL pointed out the US is falling to bits socially and economically and they still have the impertinence to bully other countries including us. AS JC said, the old thief is a consequential prez but not in a good way.
Lotza media glee yesterday that Vlad was falling yet today media treating it as a minor excursion that didn’t work out …. nuttin’ to see ‘ere .. mooove along, pleeeze ..!
why! oh why does anyone believe the rubbish the msn callz “news” when in reality, these dayz, it is OPINION, their opinion ! …….
Excellent thread on recent events.
Thanks again to commentators like Speedbox, JC and Cassie- cracking good reading.
Calli really enjoying your travelogue – haven’t been to the yookay since the start of the bLIAR era. My last visit left me rather disappointed. I thought London was just dirty. I’m glad my forebears emigrated tbh. Not that we’re not under attack here too.
Biden doesn’t know what day it is. He hasn’t the faculties to orchestrate what is happening there. You can see it every time he’s let out. So, who really is running the show? My money is on Obama. And to some further extent , Brennan. Both would love to see the USA and all it has stood for rendered incapable and in chaos.
Remember, Ukraine is dealing with the Russian mentality. Even in the old days when Napoleon entered Moscow, they simply let all the prisoners out and ordered them to burn the city down. LOL.
Dover – I think one of the aspects of this is what Bourne1879 raised: that Wagner has a substantial PMC business outside of Russia. That would suggest Wagner will continue to exist in some form with Prigozhin as boss, at least for a while, assuming the deal with Lukashenko holds. Wagner-in-Russia will vanish as you say, also presumably Rusich and all those private militias/security units the oligarchs like Gazprom has been recruiting lately.
Without Russian state backing Wagner-in-Africa is going to have a lot of problems, and will probably fall apart eventually like previous mercenary attempts have. There’s still a market for such services though, so who knows?
A peaceful protest that some took a bit too far.
I’d say a cabal of DC cockroaches Makka- O’bumma, Klain, Brennan and other poisonous trash
I read head prefect’s astute analysis of how successful the old pervert’s administration has been; from a commie perspective. I dis agree however that this senile pustule is in charge; as I said obama is in charge with other scabs on the body of the US like the clintons and the rest of the swamp involved. But I reckon this is the black bastard’s third term.
Russia (proper) as it is now has existed in almost the same borders for over 320 years. Russian as an intelligible language to modern speakers goes back around 600 years. The Russian State as we know it (the union of preceding ancestral stem monarchies) goes back at least to 1547.
The neocon-progressive fever dream/troll about a “broken up” Russia is quite unreal.
I think there is a bit of envy from Europe in that they often have a longer traceable national history, but often have not been a country for as long.
Breaking news: Californian plastic surgeons now tendering for what could be the most lucrative plastic surgery operations ever conducted.
However there is concern amongst some that once they have completed the work their life expectancy will be about 10 seconds.
I agree with James Morrow (whose US Report is first rate) that Biden won’t be the nominee.
Everybody knows that by 20 January 2025, Biden will living in his pyjamas.
I wouldn’t be surprised if the vainglorious Dr Jill is interfering with Operation Dump Joe.
The DNC also has to work out a way to assassinate RFK Jr (metaphorically, of course).
Re Trump, the Baier sit-down was a bigger train wreck than Yellowstone.
We are no better, just look at Victoria. My last two visits to Melbourne, from Sydney, were within the last twelve months and the roads are just getting worse. It’s a relief to cross the border back into NSW and the concrete base Hume Highway.
The other stupid thing we are doing is importing literally millions of migrants and nowhere for them to live. And lastly, our betters, in the face of this population increase, are scaling down electricity availability and pushing electric cars. We live in an era of utter mass public insanity.
For a lazy Sunday. Good series.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBd67qQy96k
kabuki
Bad roads.
I occurred to me yesterday, as a passenger with my eighteen year old daughter driving, the basic training skills for early drivers is being thrown out the window by bad roads.
I noticed she drives to the middle of the road most of the time and I told her to stay further left in case she encountered a truck. She huffed and said that is she did she’d be hitting potholes and it’s too dangerous.
I realised the bad habit she’d picked up was from poor roads and not poor skills.
It’s usually a cut and paste from The Chaser website. No self respect.
Here is some trivia most people don’t know about. Ever seen sparkles in a blue sky? Guess what, they are your very own white blood cells.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_field_entoptic_phenomenon
One for Tom! Offered as a comment on the problem of the developing woes of higher education.
Thanks Powerline!
Week in pictures is pretty good this week too.
One for Muellerween Monty!
I see that idiot stenographer for albanese on the voice has zero upticks.
I uptick the zero itself, by no tup-ticking.
Elbowsleazy is either putrid stupid, or a liar, or … both.
In any case, he is a racist and a traitor to this once-great country.
Any movements lately with regards to staffing of the Australian Electoral Commission.
Elbowsleazy is either putrid stupid, or a liar, or … both.
both but a has an endowment of rat cunning- this is what expanded hiya ejucashun has given us
He has to say it, I suppose.
But given his popularity how many people does he think he will persuade? How many people are out there who were thinking of voting ‘No’ will change their mind because Albo assures them they should.
I suspect more might have been tending ‘yes’ but might find themselves increasingly suspicious of the ‘yes’ side because it is so dear to that f’wit.
Mother Lode says: June 25, 2023 at 9:13 am
There’s certainly ssangyong here, but I cannot afford to be involvoed.
People hoping that Russia will somehow break up into a number of smaller states are just exposing their own ignorance. There are no natural or historical borders inside Russia itself, unlike the multitude of princedoms and duchies that ultimately formed the modern state of Germany.
The Russian people regard themselves and their country as one entity, whether they live in Pskov, Novokuznyetsk or Sakhalin. The various oblasts are administrative units only – akin to local councils rather than state governments. The people identify as Russian first and foremost.
The drama of the last 24 hours has seemed strange to Western eyes – and it is. There is a saying in Russia: Scratch a Russian, find a Tatar. Their ways of conducting politics are not like ours.
My attitude from the start was: Wait and watch.
As Dot said, war is hell. And those who were rubbing their hands in glee that Putin’s downfall was deliciously imminent, they seem to have forgotten that the Ukrainian and Russian dead are still dead, that Ukraine has suffered devastation to its people and infrastructure that will have consequences for many years to come and that the human misery and pain being experienced by so many has not ended.
Blessed are the peacemakers, not the vultures who pick over the carcasses.
If they lose, and I hope they do, their abuse of the Australian electorate both publicly and privately will be massive. ‘Racist’ ‘redneck’ ‘unejucated’ etc etc.
Many things happened yesterday that didn’t make much sense. Things were said that couldn’t be unsaid. And then, overnight, it got even more ridiculous.
I find it hard to believe that any of the major Russian players can trust each other enough for this deal to hold.
Kasparov is right, Russia is not a state any more, it’s a collection of gangsters. I suppose there is some sort of code in the Mafia? You can’t run a country like that indefinitely.
When I mentioned institutions yesterday I was talking about courts, parliaments, police… what you might call the shallow state. None of that is working at all in Russia, it has long since been hopelessly corrupted.
Yesterday took about three months. Today, well who knows what will happen.
Now you must accept the truth that there is indeed a deep state.
Also, I never said anything about breaking up Russia. The future I would wish for them is more like modern Germany: a transformation from a warmonger state to a locus of peace and economic strength based on liberal values and strong institutions. It happened there and in Japan, it can happen in Russia.
We all know what will happen, mOron.
You will still be the air headed lemming leftist fkwit you have always been. Ever ready to leap onto the nearest rake and defend your perverted deviant fellow travelers to the death.
My main worry is why Albo feels confident enough to keep pushing the Voice based on a vibe and lies. Now maybe he’s bet the farm and has no choice, but the noises from the AEC about pushing postal ballots out ‘so everyone can participate’ concerns me greatly.
That’s very funny Monty, you just described our local system and Biden’s regime neatly in two sentences. Have you ever thought of buying yourself a mirror?
Yes, we too hold the same hopes for the USA.
The NAFO larpers and devushka larpers were certain Priggy was paid by the CIA.
You can’t walk this back.
“On 24 February [2022] there was nothing extraordinary happening there. Now the Ministry of Defence is trying to deceive the public, deceive the president and tell a story that there was some crazy aggression by Ukraine, that – together with the whole Nato bloc – Ukraine was planning to attack us.
“The war was needed… so that Shoigu could become a Marshal, so that he could get a second Hero Star… the war wasn’t for demilitarising or de-nazifying Ukraine. It was needed for an extra star.”
This Cat obsession with an alliance between spooks and flamers to create a clone army of flamer spooks is a joke, Dot. It’s a punch line, not serious.
You know who is the deep state? Kissinger, and all he represents. But it’s not as if he is hidden.
It changed ‘Cats’ to ‘cars’?
Well, probably not. ‘R’ and ‘T’ are next to each other and I am typing on a phone.
Still, I will be curious to learn the breakdown of opinion among vehicles.
I would expect EV’s, hybrids, and Smart Cars to lean heavily toward Putin being severely weakened because they want it to be so for brave and doughty Ukraine’s sake.
The Australian and US systems are not perfect, Bruce, but your side is in the minority so it is unsurprising that it keeps losing democratic elections.
only 12 hours ago mUnty was practically cheering for more death, more destruction, more disorder, and more punching of Russkies
today he’s pretending to be the disappointed revolutionary
I dunno what you think you sound like mate but it aint the Dove of Peace
Albo thinks he’s a Hawke style messiah when he’s the very definition Hayden’s Drover’s Dog.
Voters wanted to kick out the Sydney Televangelist and didn’t care who took the top job.
m0ntysays:
June 25, 2023 at 10:51 am
Many things happened yesterday that didn’t make much sense. Things were said that couldn’t be unsaid. And then, overnight, it got even more ridiculous.
Welcome back, Fat Fascist Fool. Did you spend the morning offloading your over-supply of Gloatium, so as to stock up on Copium and Seethium?
…
Kasparov is right, Russia is not a state any more, it’s a collection of gangsters. I suppose there is some sort of code in the Mafia? You can’t run a country like that indefinitely.
See also: the USA under first O’Bummer, and now Creepy Joe.
When I mentioned institutions yesterday I was talking about courts, parliaments, police… what you might call the shallow state. None of that is working at all in Russia, it has long since been hopelessly corrupted.
Stick to fantasy football, fantasy politics and fantasy strategy are well beyond your intellect.
And speaking of “long since been hopelessly corrupted”, see again the USA under O’Bummer and Creepy Joe.
Wow that is some A-grade stuff you are smoking Monty. Ask Speedbox what the Russian character will make of your noble-spirited ‘liberal values and strong institutions’ as a basis for their future.
Morn all.
Late flight back north last night. Qantaslink late again despite being on time into Sydney. Flight was full of soldiers obviously travelling for Ex Talisman Sabre. Had 3 yanks possibly military in front of me that two were rather indiscreet, one was talking shop at a level I could hear with industrial deafness mentioning an Australian Colonel by name a number of times that wasn’t hard to look up on Linkedin. Big SF looking guy was trying to chat up flight attendants in galley for a fair chunk of the flight but he seemed pretty harmless, LOL hope his work paid off. Apart from that fairly uneventful though I did have a brief conversation with a Canadian lass (Big red maple leaf tag on her luggage a dead give away) who was travelling the eastern seaboard after doing a year as an exchange student in Perth.
As for my stay. Sydney Ferries don’t have a tap off as I found out, the view from the back of the ferry though very cold on Thursday night was spectacular of the Harbour Bridge, Sydney CBD skyline and Domain/Botanical gardens with some light show on the waters edge. Spent few days at Harbord and had coffee on Harbord Beach yesterday morning was a bit crisp but beautiful sunny morning & view made up for it. Lunch yesterday, highly recommend Bucketty’s microbrewery in Brookvale. Another one Dad & Daves down the road looked packed as well and was recommended if I am ever back. Don’t know what idiot renamed the suburb as Freshwater, confused me at first but noticed the older name Harbord that I associate with the area lingers. Small mercies it wasn’t renamed to something else incomprehensible I suppose. The mess coming out of the Sydney Harbour Tunnel at North Sydney and rubbish road surface is a disgrace, that could have been planned better. In fact the signposting along the Eastern Distributor, Harbour tunnel and turn off to Military rd was just as bad.
Funeral was on the central coast Friday and was as these are, an emotional experience. The wake in true Irish catholic tradition was a different affair. I think he would have been satisfied at his send off. Some extended family who have been abroad working I saw for the first time in close to 30 years. Interesting mix of corporate lawyers, senior executives, soldiers and tradesman in our family. Found out a lot more about my relatives military career though short as it was before he jumped into the corporate world which I knew much more about. All I’ll say is he had an interesting period before joining the Army and it was all hard work to get where he got retiring as a senior executive. Sometimes he was too honest for his own good but that is the way he lived his life, I remember him as being very much like that myself and have memories of him translating Latin when I was a child. Anyway I start to ramble on an anonymous blog, Friday night traffic to the Central Coast along the M1 hasn’t changed, Brooklyn Bridge was a big traffic snarl northbound but a truck tyre fire wouldn’t have helped that.
Anyway back to the grindstone soon. Enjoy your Sunday all and more importantly enjoy life, it’s too short.
I dunno what you think you sound like mate but it aint the Dove of Peace
likes seeing destruction and suffering from the comfort of an armchair
Another product of hiya ejucashun
m0ntysays:
June 25, 2023 at 10:55 am
Also, I never said anything about breaking up Russia. The future I would wish for them is more like modern Germany: a transformation from a warmonger state to a locus of peace and economic strength based on liberal values and strong institutions. It happened there and in Japan, it can happen in Russia.
The reality that it took massive defeats (and a nuclear attack on Japan), followed by years of occupation, to set up the conditions for those changes has still not sunk into your thick head.
Great Cat updates on the CIA-mediated Russian “crisis”.
But how could anyone predict that the “Russian coup” was only yet another nothing-burger, at a time of constant end-of-days catastrophic genocidal-peddling lies by anyone with a computer keyboard?
By the fact that a totally unnecessary, totally optional musical competition , of no particular political importance, in central Moscow, just carried on, without missing a beat.
And at an artistic standard that is something that has to be seen to be believed.
Thank you YouTube!
At the back of Elbow’s weasel brain there’s probably a couple of upsides
to the voice failing.
He dodges a colossal legislative nightmare.
The racist tories broke the first nations peoples’ hearts.
A club the little shit would wield with enthusiasm.
One of the biggest clowns going around.
Mutley goes to bed in the basement with an oak woody, wakes to find its a wilted pansy.
Except it is. Not really the same topic monty, but an example of what you changed the topic to is the completely unprofessional investigation and prosecution of Brandon Caserta.
A paid informant (paid so he could quit his job and be a full-time informant for six months to 120k p.a. pro rata) at trial alleged text/smartphone app messages that could not be reproduced that talked of drinking zionist banker blood.
The FBI is a shameful institution and needs to be closed down.
m0ntysays:
June 25, 2023 at 11:02 am
Now you must accept the truth that there is indeed a deep state.
This Cat obsession with an alliance between spooks and flamers to create a clone army of flamer spooks is a joke, Dot. It’s a punch line, not serious.
LOL. The Fat Fascist Fool didn’t get enough Copium and Seethium this morning.
Ask Germans whether they are better off now than under Hitler or the Kaiser.
acres of pale female flesh littered with tattoos
Brits : slag tags
Americans: tramp stamps
LOL
Ed Case is hard at work downticking any comments made by commenters to the right of Brendan Nelson.
In other news, Ukraine is still banging its head against a wall in the South. Baron of the Taiga, link above, suggests that the failure of Ukraine to gain any success in their offensive weakened Prigohzin’s hand against Shoigu considerably but given existing plans he had to play it anyway.
Plans. Contact. Etc.
Haha, Monty. Christians always have been a minority, that’s what all those Bible verses about the “remnant” are about. If I was in the immoral majority I’d be fearful. Maybe your lot should take a break from stealing elections to consider the, shall I say, long term consequences?
LOL. I hurt someone’s feelings.
The “Nett Zero” stalker is busy this morning.
Lay your bets. Turd Case or the Fat Fascist Fool? Or both?
I mean sure, the circumstances in Germany and Japan allowed a complete rebuild of their nations, and it’s hard to see Russia in that situation unless NATO invades and wins. Is there a path for Russia to emulate post-war rebirth without going through that sort of destruction? I don’t know.
The alternative is the continued threat of a chaotic warlord-ruled Russia on Europe’s doorstep. This situation has festered for too long.
Can things get even crazier by the end of today? Prigozhin might say, hold my vodka.
From: The Kindergarten School of Political Analysis.
Pretty sure Germans in 1910 would far prefer then than now.
Only 46% to YES vote.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12228879/Voice-Parliament-New-JWS-Research-poll-shows-growth-Australians-voting-No-referendum.html
You have to also consider that there is virtually no organised NO campaign and the government seems to be heavily favouring a YES vote.
The economy and Lidia Thorpe are doing great unofficial campaigning. Really I think people not understanding what they are voting for is the greatest asset the NO case has.
Now he’s upticking his own drivel.
No natural borders Luzu? Two of my Russian friends see that a little different. The Urals. According to one of them West is European and East is Chinese. The one from East looks nothing Chinese, more Scandi. He saw it as East are thinkers, West are airheads.
There was nothing chaotic about Putin’s Russia. Compare with US that launched two wars and occupations, and instigated several civil wars, two still ongoing in the MENA, among other things. Had the Europeans had a more level-head they still be receiving cheap gas, Ukraine would still have Crimea, etc.
the noises from the AEC about pushing postal ballots out ‘so everyone can participate’ concerns me greatly
Setting it up.
LOL, after the events of yesterday you say that. They literally had a one-day civil war.
How would you know unless you yanked a bunch of 1910’ers out of that era and placed them in the present? To get a reasonable idea you also have to get a bunch of people from the present and stick them in 1910.
What are you saying?
mUnty
it’s hard to see Russia in that situation unless NATO invades and wins.
Still getting a woody at the thought of nuclear war? Because that will be the result if NATO invades Wussia.
He will be able to pretend he was brought down on a point of principle (‘Da Voice’, and all of the ideological lint it has accreted) rather than outright economic mismanagement – if that is what it comes to.
With Labor managing the message and with the full complicity of the MSM, Albo will be rehabilitated as a man of destiny thwarted by small minds – a moral light snuffed out by by dead-breath of far-right racists.
Rudd was a disaster, but they talk about his magnificent (if empty) gesture – the stupid apology to no one.
Gough was an economic custer-fluck and yet the left still insist his name only be spoken in a hushed reverential voice.
Particularly the citizens of Memel, Königsberg, Danzig, Breslau, Stettin and Eupen.
Having lived both sides of the Ural, I think your Russian friends show the common bias of the Russian pompous. The biggest 2 Russian cities , Moscow and St Pete’s in the east are both heavily Euro influenced materially, while the resource wealth of Russia and the hardy types reside centrally and east. It’s kind of like how sophisticates in harbour dwelling NSW regard the redneck Qld Maroons.
mUnty wants conflict to get to peace
wants revolution so as to hack away the overgrowth on the path to harmony
how to give yourself a close shave using mUnty’s Razor …
Hitler was a Socialist
mUnty is a Socialist
therefore mUnty == Hitler
Yeah, a mercenary army threatening to March to the capital …happens most Thursday afternoons in Western counties.
No biggie.
Just got back from visiting grandson in Melbourne. The juxtaposition between the shiny high-rise and the filthy city streets is amazing. Still, my son likes it there, lives in Southbanks. Moved to Melbourne for a job. Maybe I am used to Perth’s sterile CBD. On a plus, we weren’t subjected to the welcome to country crap when the plane landed in Perth. As for the bio-security anouncement, I thought I heard mention of the ACH act as part of the blurb.
lol … suddenly nothing happened
Albosleazy knew he had one throw of the dice and he got up because of useless Morrison.
He’s always known that he is a one term PM because his party think he’s a goose. He can hear the coven sharpening the knives.
He wants the inVoice to be his signature legacy for the Labor history books. Won’t happen – the punters are awake to what a dud proposal it is. Likewise his support of Bowen the climate/energy lunatic. Punters are awake to that dud as their bills skyrocket.
No, there was no civil war. That was never on the cards. Prigohzin simply rolled the dice and found he had no institutional support. That’s why he was looking for the exit.
The old chip on this shoulder is bigger than a Northern California redwood.
JC, what most don’t understand is that in Russia, chaos is far from uncommon. From all the footage I saw, there was no chaos or distress seen in the average citizen. To them it was more a spectacle and curiosity than an insurrection. They are probably the best judge of events.
m0nty the First World War was incredibly destructive, excluding the strong historical claim that it directly caused WWII. Pre-war society was idyllic and to be idealised.
There is an estimate in 1913 dollars that the war cost the Allies 147 bn USD and the Central Powers 67 bn USD.
In today’s money (USD) the global direct financial cost was 6.399 trillion dollars or 9.55 tn AUD in today’s money.
The indirect financial cost was about 173 bn (1913 USD); 5.315 trillion dollars or 7.93 tn AUD in today’s money.
The middle estimate for the global population in 1913 was 1.811 bn; the world population is probably 7.95 bn right now.
The per capita loss in income/wealth would be 4.5 times worse than now as well; more so in the warring states.
I’m saying a typical German in 1910 would likely reject increasing comfort for political irrelevance and social decadence.
No biggie.
You can’t be expected to know , with your mOronesque view of evil Wussia.
And still pouting too , girlyman.
Tumbleweeds blow through our city of onion bag and witches hats. Saturday afternoon for breakdancing pink-haired gits, otherwise the big feature seems to be closed frontages and pre-9am homeless encampments.
I really enjoy the underground train to the airport though – bargain at a billion dollars a passenger.
Simplicius’s Garden of Knowledge
Prigozhin’s Siege Ends – Postmortem Analysis
Wagner pretty much depends entirely on the Russian MoD for heavy weapons, etc. and ammo. It can never actually successfully undertake a coup without significant support from the RuAF, etc.
Germans are politically irrelevant, says db. They are literally rulers of Europe, the entire economy of the continent has been recast to make them the cosseted elites. Hitler would be jealous of the power they have.
Of course Hitler would be aghast at other aspects like diversity and inclusion, funnily enough those are the same aspects at which db is aghast.
The Germans saw -27% GDP growth during WWI, net of the implicit costs to human life, future financial liabilities and destruction of fixed & financial capital, currency seignorage and devaluation (thus large and eventual losses of purchasing power) and loss of land and other resources.
m0nty your assertions regarding the Kaiser are unfathomable to normal people who strive to be less ignorant.
But of course you would because you were drilling screws to pipes in the middle of Shitcreekgrad , or so you claim.
Look, there’s never a possibility of a reasonable discussion with you because you can’t handle being wrong and accuse others of lying. So STFU and stop talking you bigmouth.
They are the cats paw of the US. Their gas pipeline was destroyed by or with the knowledge of their NATO ‘partner’ and they didn’t even say boo. Bismark turned in his grave.
mUnty’s Razor in action
literally, knows what Hitler would think
Trump just-in:
If re-elected, he will inform China it has 24 hours to leave Cuba or he will “drop the hammer.”
Harry Hindsight is never wrong. Pity you weren’t around last night making these “hindsightful” predictions.
There was talk last night of very little resistance from the regular military and in fact there was no reports of any ground fighting as the Wagners were advancing.
But of course you knew in advance, right 🙂
Un-fazed passers-by are not a good indicator of underlying existential dangers.
They are sometimes sh1t-scared and pretending, mostly nothin’ happens but when it does your pretending avails nothing.
There was a moment in a far city when my hosts saw the passers-by were all heading one way, asked a few what was up and we headed the same way, away from the action tout de suite. Behind us were smoke, burning buildings, riot, shots from loyalists sorting the rioters.
The wisdom of crowds is usually applied after the first shots.
How do you know who cut the cord? You were in the NATO meetings?
the noises from the AEC about pushing postal ballots out ‘so everyone can participate’ concerns me greatly.
Correct. Rub and tug is not going to lose the screech; as we speak thousands of yes votes are already being printed. My guess: the number of ballots counted will exceed the eligible voter number by just enough in 4 key states and overall by padding NSW and victoristan.
You missed my main point Chris. When it comes to the Regions, Muscovites and St Pete’s are generally considered big city snobs by those east of the Urals.
Of course Hitler would be aghast at other aspects like diversity and inclusion, funnily enough those are the same aspects at which db is aghast.
One of the most ham fisted applications of Godwins Law; and when I say ham fisted I mean dickless has no dick to fist so he uses meat as a substitute.
Which of course has absolutely zero relevance to what Chris said.
The coup attempt was called off when it was pointed out that Stan Grant was on leave. There can be no other reason.
And when he wins the screech, and the demands begin for a “truth telling” – similar to what we have already seen with the “Bringing them Home” inquiry – the Aboriginal Legal Service vetted the witness list, and anyone whose story didn’t fit the “vibe”, wasn’t allowed to give evidence – and a treaty, involving massive sums in “compensation” and “reparations?” Oh, and “sovereignty?”
Hahahahahahaha
Good business by the Germans, they get the Yanks to pay for their defence. Trump had a few words to say about how easy the Germans have it, as I recall.
Germany in 1910 had it so good that four years later they went to war. And lost.
Of course I didn’t know in advance but I knew the best thing to do, at least in the first 48 hrs of something like this, is to recognize that a lot of the info, reports, and like are likely to be disinformation, misinformation, partial reports, wish fulfilment, etc. and just see how things pan out, usually with the maintainance of the status quo.
Maybe there was little resistance because they were using ‘the March’ to buy time while things were negotiated. Do we even know how many were involved in ‘the March’? Wasn’t all of Wagner, that much we know.
I’ll just remind everyone here what the pervert apologist wrote late last might, at at time which was way past his bedtime…
m0ntysays:
June 24, 2023 at 11:16 pm
All will be revealed in … what is it m0nty, 8 days until Wagner gets to Moscow?
Not even eight hours, at this rate.“
I repeat, Monty wrote “eight hours, at this rate“.
And thanks to Luzu for her comment. Like Speedbox, Luzu writes with both knowledge and sense about Russia, the same cannot be said about the pervert apologist.
What was an example of disinformation last night, Dover?
That was true when the Germans were getting cheap energy from Russia and able to operate a competitive manufacturing sector. Without that, a terrible business.
Who are we kidding now?
Says the bloke who declared victory over the Uke offensive within two weeks.
“Hitler would be aghast at other aspects like diversity and inclusion”
Actually, Hitler was quite “inclusive of homosexuals, until they threatened his power base. His friendship with Rohm went back to the earliest days of the Nazi Party, immediately after World war I, and Hitler long knew about Rohm’s sexual proclivities, proclivities he was quite happy to ignore until Rohm and his army threatened Hitler’s power base.
You reckon cheap gas from one source was the only thing making German manufacturing competitive? Um, no.
I’m not but you are by pretending to know who cut the line.
RFK Jr de-shirts to lift weights at Venice Beach (I presume).
Far out.
https://twitter.com/alx/status/1672744512840400897
“Hitler was too woke” is certainly a take.
Monty, I presume you agree that Biden is mentally shot and the DNC has to come up with a plan to slot Newsom in to the picture, yes?
“RFK Jr de-shirts to lift weights at Venice Beach”
Roids? At his age, too.
Yeah and you were calling Trump a pawn of Putin when he was saying that. If Europe had increased its defence spending as Trump wanted they would be much more in a position to assist Ukraine in its fight against Russia.
In other words, you’re full of shit.
Just catching up.. read Cassie’s family travails from yesterday..
If I can be so bold.. I’d caution against any hip surgery at 91, for several reasons:
1) It’s highly risky at any age, especially after the 6th-7th decades of life, due to risk of embolism and long, poor recovery rates because of ageing protoplasm (general fitness).
2) No age-adjusted empirical data on success rates (meaning a return to pre-surgery mobility).
3) Significant (>15%) probability of intra-surgical demise.
4) Need for life-long added prophylactic meds, with all the concomitant complications thereof.
5) High likelihood of recurrence.. falls don’t happen at these ages by accident…
One has to pick their poison.. The alternative: wheel-chair, prophylactic anti-thrombotics, analgesics and pressure-care are also unpleasant, but survival will likely be longer.
It’s all a matter of choice.
Chris, caught a cab home from the airport at about 9pm. No one was going down the escalater to the train as we drove past.
Hitler was into scat, just like Munty probably is.
Makkasays:
June 25, 2023 at 10:00 am
the old thief is a consequential prez but not in a good way.
Biden doesn’t know what day it is. He hasn’t the faculties to orchestrate what is happening there. You can see it every time he’s let out. So, who really is running the show? My money is on Obama. And to some further extent , Brennan. Both would love to see the USA and all it has stood for rendered incapable and in chaos.
So who is running the Biden ’empire’? Hunter? Why would Jo care about how much money they have? He won’t be taking it with him. He would have had plenty to retire on years ago while he still had some faculties to enjoy himself.
Interesting.
Good get, Anders.
How piss poor is my generation?
An actual article from Medium:
How to Make Friends as an Adult
Pro tip: Be polite, say hello, don’t be weird and don’t be a total retard.
Dr Jill, with Hunter.