Open Thread – Tues 27 June 2023


The Gleaners, Jean-François Millet,1857

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Cassie of Sydney
June 27, 2023 11:18 am

Bar Beach Swimmersays:
June 27, 2023 at 10:55 am

I think you’ve said it best. Excellent comment BBS.

There’s an old saying that the “only thing necessary for evil to triumph in the world is that good men do nothing”. I regard those who refuse to speak up about about the transpervert cult to be such men, and women.

Prosciutto might be a good local member..so good that I recall how he lost his seat in 2018, but he most certainly is not a good leader. Rather, he’s shown himself to be weak, spineless, craven, misogynistic and defamatory. His accusations after the Melbourne Let Women Speak rally were and remain an outrage. Rather than being a man and apologising, he instead has backed himself into a corner and doubled down. No wonder Dan always has a smirk on his face.

Figures
Figures
June 27, 2023 11:18 am

That story about Pesutto’s daughter boggles the mind. How can anybody on the right be so stupid?

My daughters come to me and say “I’m scared of climate change” I say “Good. Hand me your phone and you’ll be walking everywhere from now on.”

The most astonishing part is that you just know Pesutto’s daughter absolutely hates his guts – as all girls hate supine men.

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 27, 2023 11:20 am

Dutton is playing Albo like a Strad over the Voice. Eh, Groogs?

Roger
Roger
June 27, 2023 11:21 am

Australians will not back the Voice if the Prime Minister keeps “yelling” at them

Accompanied with flecks of spittle.

He really is a charmer.

Bar Beach Swimmer
June 27, 2023 11:22 am

Or does he have a mole-like near-sightedness and sees an unending vista of adroitly managed peripheral matters – calming grumbling members, crafting press releases

ML, political advisor territory, there.

(Shiraz and Higgins)

“We’d become quite a twosome on game planning”.

(Brittany Higgins’ book appears to have been shelved. One look at the rough draft and it’s not hard to understand why.
By JANET ALBRECHTSEN)

In today’s OZ (can’t open)

Roger
Roger
June 27, 2023 11:24 am

Brittany Higgins’ book appears to have been shelved.

As predicted.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
June 27, 2023 11:27 am

“The single one-word slogans will certainly be there. (WTF?)
“Voice” is a single one-word slogan. And Rub-n-tug is filthy that we’re not bending over to take it.

Roger
Roger
June 27, 2023 11:29 am

Yeah nah.

Whichever way you look at it, Putin’s days are numbered.

I’m not excited by that prospect because it’s almost certain that whoever takes his place will be much worse.

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 27, 2023 11:29 am

Rogersays:
June 27, 2023 at 8:51 am
WTF is the ABC doing continually referring to Melbourne a ‘Naarm’?

Reminding you who the owners are.

And that your presence here is illegitimate.

But theirs isn’t.

The Beer whisperer
The Beer whisperer
June 27, 2023 11:30 am

So, what are we all doing about Albo’s totalitarian power grab with the “disinfo” legislation?

Feedback directly is a waste of time. There will have to be protests to get anywhere, methinks.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 27, 2023 11:31 am

My daughters come to me and say “I’m scared of climate change” I say “Good. Hand me your phone and you’ll be walking everywhere from now on.”

That’s what annoys me about the Liberals especially, in all states and federally.
Take a look at this graph that Steven Hayward put up overnight:

The Daily Chart: Government Religion | Power Line (26 Jun)

It’s a graph titled “Climate Change Urgency by Party Over Time”. Absolutely clear that the climate religion is exclusively a lefty one, and the right doesn’t believe in it. Yet our supposed right wing pollies all ooze green crud like a sewer. Their voters aren’t being represented, Prosciutto being the most obvious offender.

Roger
Roger
June 27, 2023 11:32 am

Speaking of which, Sumantra Maitra’s view.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
June 27, 2023 11:33 am

And Rub-n-tug is filthy that we’re not bending over to take it.

Hey, Elbow is very protective of hissss precioussss voice.
And by “his” I mean totally not his because the requirement for it was sketched out in Rio 31 years ago.

rickw
rickw
June 27, 2023 11:39 am

The appearance of those Nazis in Melbourne in March was NO accident. It was a carefully designed and orchestrated stunt and the dickhead Prosciutto and his fellow Liberal party dickheads fell for it hook, line and sinker.

You would have to be an imbecile to fall for it….

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
June 27, 2023 11:40 am

I wonder how far away we are from individual munitions?
Ones that can linger in an area or be deployed en masse to deny an area to the enemy?
The current drones are sort of doing that.

2000AD had it picked 40 years ago.
https://futureshockd.wordpress.com/tag/revolt-of-the-tick-tock-monkey-bomb/

Arky
June 27, 2023 11:41 am

The ideology was home-grown.

..
The content seen after the brief opening of the archives during the break up of the Soviet Union show that is incorrect.

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 27, 2023 11:43 am

Albo is watching his place in history circling the S-bend. 30 years in Canberra gone in a single flush.

rickw
rickw
June 27, 2023 11:43 am

So, what are we all doing about Albo’s totalitarian power grab with the “disinfo” legislation?

Leave. The Mong Mass in Australia is Super Critical. It’s almost impossible to defeat even to most disgraceful idea.

Morsie
Morsie
June 27, 2023 11:45 am

The horrifying and depressing fact is that Pesutto is probably the best the state Libs have to offer.
I also seriously think that he lost his seat at the prior election because Labor put up a nonentity in Hawthorn called John Kennedy and the voters confused him with the legendary coach.

Bar Beach Swimmer
June 27, 2023 11:47 am

You would have to be an imbecile to fall for it….

Or one of the three blind mice…

https://youtu.be/WbuwiNPjQHM

Dot
Dot
June 27, 2023 11:48 am

So, what are we all doing about Albo’s totalitarian power grab with the “disinfo” legislation?

We’re already disobeying it.

Keep it up.

Those who want this will be caught out by their own rules.

Remember the lies about COVID are provable and we have the receipts.

[Of course, we are better off if it never passes.]

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 27, 2023 11:50 am
Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 27, 2023 11:53 am

For rock Cats this looks very cool.

Rick Astley performs a full set of The Smiths’ greatest hits at Glastonbury — setlist + video (24 Jun, via Instapundit)

Rick Astley followed up his officially announced Glastonbury festival performance Saturday with a “secret” second set, teaming up with the U.K. band Blossoms to perform 16 of The Smiths’ best-loved songs for an adoring crowd under the tented Woodsies Stage.

The Smiths’ bass player Andy Rourke died in May, so it’s a fine tribute.

Johnny Rotten
June 27, 2023 11:54 am

rosiesays:
June 27, 2023 at 6:16 am
I think I bought a packet of Sugar Frosties the first time I visited the UK.
We never had them as children but I’d seen the ads and l obviously, they worked

Tony the Tiger loved them. He said so.

Dot
Dot
June 27, 2023 11:56 am

We’re no strangers to love
And all my hope is gone
So you go home and you cry
and you want to die (die die die)

Never gonna give you love
Never gonna let you down

???

Arky
June 27, 2023 11:57 am

In regard to Soviet support for western communist parties, which in the USA at their height had 75,000 members, see:
https://www.loc.gov/exhibits/archives/sovi.html

In 1922 the Comintern forced the two American parties, which consisted of about 12,000 members, to amalgamate and to follow the party line established in Moscow. Although membership in the American party rose to about 75,000 by 1938,

..
For the effect of American communist party members on American education pedagogy see:
https://repository.usfca.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1000&context=rl_fac

Ed Case
Ed Case
June 27, 2023 11:59 am

Dutton is playing Albo like a Strad over the Voice.

He’s done well.
I’m thinkin’ Barnaby has taken a huge sling to queer his pitch.

Turnbull did the hard yards to get him out of the leadership, then Scotty let him back in.
I’d say that if the vegetables take Joyce back as Leader, he’ll switch them to the Yes side.
Nothing else about bringing him back makes any sense.

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 27, 2023 12:04 pm

Turd Case

LOL.

rosie
rosie
June 27, 2023 12:04 pm

Tony the Tiger is the reason I bought them.
My sons scoffed them.
I didn’t buy them again though.
I’m sure in the Australian ad he said
“They’re great, mate!”

Johnny Rotten
June 27, 2023 12:05 pm

Isn’t it time Linda Burney was called to account for some of the lies she’s told Parliament?

LOL. I would line up loads of them. Tennis Elbow, Blackout Bowen, Craig Thomson, Slipper the Speaker, Scomo (Covid 19 NUTCASE), The KRudd, JULIAR Gizzard, TurnBullShit, etc, etc, etc, etc……………The list is nearly endless. As long as Parliament has been going………………….

Arky
June 27, 2023 12:05 pm

By the way, the current concerns about Confucius Institutes in Western universities are the tip of the iceberg.
The real influence is in secondary mandarin courses, where Beijing has been inserting personnel directly into Australian schools and influencing both teaching methods and curriculum.

rosie
rosie
June 27, 2023 12:06 pm

And who doesn’t love a Rick Roll?

rosie
rosie
June 27, 2023 12:07 pm

It’s great to see Janet A isn’t letting go of the HigginsSharaz bone.

Johnny Rotten
June 27, 2023 12:07 pm

rosiesays:
June 27, 2023 at 12:04 pm
Tony the Tiger is the reason I bought them.
My sons scoffed them.
I didn’t buy them again though.
I’m sure in the Australian ad he said
“They’re great, mate!”

They were great for rotting yer’ teef’……………..lol

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
June 27, 2023 12:10 pm

Rice bubbles.
This just showed up when I went to youtube.

Going hard for the sexual deviant market.
Because nothing says “snap crackle and pop” like adding dick to it.
snap crackle and cock

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 27, 2023 12:11 pm

Norwegian blues.

Norway’s Wealth Tax Is Backfiring. Are Americans Paying Attention? (26 Jun)

In 2022 Norway’s third richest man, Kjell Inge Røkke, announced in an open letter to shareholders he was moving to Lugano, Switzerland.

“My capital will continue working in Norway,” wrote the fishing magnate turned industrialist who launched his empire four decades ago with a 69-foot trawler he bought while saving money working on ships off the coast of Alaska.

Røkke, who Forbes estimates has a fortune of $5.1 billion, will cost the Norwegian government an estimated 175,000,000 kroner annually (roughly $16 million) with his departure. That might not sound like a lot of money, but Røkke is not the only wealthy entrepreneur leaving Norway, The Guardian notes.

“More than 30 Norwegian billionaires and multimillionaires left Norway in 2022, according to research by the newspaper Dagens Naeringsliv,” reports wealth correspondent Rupert Neate. “This was more than the total number of super-rich people who left the country during the previous 13 years, [the paper] added.”

How odd. Maybe we should ask Gerard Depardieu to explain it to them.

Johnny Rotten
June 27, 2023 12:13 pm

No enterprise is more likely to succeed than one concealed from the enemy until it is ripe for execution.

– Niccolo Machiavelli

LOL. I sent this quote to Putin. He emailed me back saying that he already has this one at front and centre of his deliberations.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
June 27, 2023 12:16 pm

I wonder who in the Libs is most surprised that having decided to oppose the voice they are finding that they are with the growing bulk of ordinary people. Usually a few accusations of racism has them drop onto the floor and rolling on their backs begging to have their bellies rubbed.

If they can work out, like some long dead homo erectus* who found a burning branch on the ground and realised he could carry the fire with him back to his cave and keep it burning, that there might be a connection between standing for what people want and being elected.

*Not an endorsement of Pride Month

rosie
rosie
June 27, 2023 12:16 pm

Thanks Captain Obvious.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 27, 2023 12:16 pm

LOL. I would line up loads of them. Tennis Elbow, Blackout Bowen, Craig Thomson, Slipper the Speaker, Scomo (Covid 19 NUTCASE), The KRudd, JULIAR Gizzard, TurnBullShit, etc, etc, etc, etc

It seems there is a reluctance to challenge Linda Burney – she plays the race card early, and often.

Arky
June 27, 2023 12:16 pm

The three great examples of the horrors of communism, and our greatest inoculation against homegrown versions are:
1. The famine in the Soviet Union during the thirties.
2. The crimes of the a Chinese cultural revolution in the 1960s and 70s.
3. The Cambodian killing fields of Pol Pot.
That communist influenced educators in the West have filled all the important decision making positions is the reason why your average 18 year old leaves school without a clue of any of the above three events.

duncanm
duncanm
June 27, 2023 12:19 pm

thefrollickingmolesays:
June 27, 2023 at 10:29 am
Gruinaid continuing the in-voice charm offensive…

As an Arrernte woman, I feel stuck with a choice between systems I do not trust and the fear of giving in to rabid racists

more from Ms (because I know she would like to be referred to as such) Liddle:
http://blackfeministranter.blogspot.com/

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
June 27, 2023 12:21 pm

Well, I decided to bite the bullet today, and bought a bottle of Schorschbock.

Probably best not on an empty stomach.

Bar Beach Swimmer
June 27, 2023 12:22 pm

The horrifying and depressing fact is that Pesutto is probably the best the state Libs have to offer.

Politics should not be a game for the smooth operator, always looking for the best pan drippings, or the fawning sycophant, endlessly caving in to the other side, which is what the Victorian SFLs have become. This is endless Opposition territory, which only ensures that bad Governments survive.

The way out? Find better candidates, support the good ones they’ve already got – like Deeming – and jettison the rest, if those there are not willing to stand up for the Menzian tradition.

The first part of which is to realise that this new stand will mean that they will not be invited by the best to the best – Melb Cup tents/footy with McPoney/the tennis, etc.

That’s called having balls. Why is that necessary? Because the conservative base will not vote for anyone who has less than that.

As Trump said to Don Jnr, when he came down the escalator at Trump Tower in 2016, now we’ll find out who our real friends are.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
June 27, 2023 12:22 pm

Arkysays:
June 27, 2023 at 12:16 pm

Dont forget, a lot of the apparatchiks and leaders were…. school teachers.

Mao Zedong was born on 26 December 1893. He died on 9 September 1976. Between1914 and 1918 he received systematic teacher training at the First Provincial Normal School of Hunan province. While studying, he divided his time between revolutionary thinking and educational activities.

Joseph Stalin… oops wrong one

Born into an affluent family, Pot studied at the École française de radioélectricité, an engineering institute in Paris. He failed his exams and returned to Cambodia. Despite his lack of training, Pot got a job as a teacher of history, geography and morals at a school in Phnom Penh.
….

Min
Min
June 27, 2023 12:25 pm

I know John P well he is an appeaser . Who do you think makes the decisions ?
Some one has suggested he gets a millennial as dep. leader they are SamGroth , Euan Mulholland and Kew MP

Johnny Rotten
June 27, 2023 12:25 pm

Arkysays:
June 27, 2023 at 12:16 pm
The three great examples of the horrors of communism, and our greatest inoculation against homegrown versions are:
1. The famine in the Soviet Union during the thirties.
2. The crimes of the a Chinese cultural revolution in the 1960s and 70s.
3. The Cambodian killing fields of Pol Pot.

The ‘Leaders’ that did those heinous deeds were not Communists. They were Tyrants and Megalomaniacs.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 27, 2023 12:26 pm

Parents start own schools in ‘woke teaching’ backlash

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12:17PM June 27, 2023
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Rebel parents worried about “woke teaching’’ are starting up their own small schools, in a renaissance of “classical” education.

Twenty-two students have enrolled in the conservative Hartford College, which opened in Sydney this year as Australia’s “first liberal arts school for boys’’.

As more families drift away from free public schooling, start-up schools are mushrooming across the country, paid for through tuition fees, bank loans and federal government funding for basic running costs.

The Hartford College motto is “Dare to think. Dare to know,’’ and its ethos is to encourage students to “think outside the box, ask difficult questions and have courage in pursuing the truth’’.

Its chairman and founder is father-of-six Tim Mitchell, the solicitor director at Bay Legal in Sydney, who established the school with just 22 students in February after renting a spare building from the Catholic Church in the inner-Sydney suburb of Daceyville.

The school plans to grow to 200 students from Years 5 to 12.

“It was parent-driven – the idea was initiated in 2020 when people came together and thought it would be a much-needed initiative to have a school with a classical, liberal arts education,’’ Mr Mitchell said yesterday.

“It’s a Christian ethos, and an ethos of academic excellence and opening boys’ minds to great literature, philosophy and languages, as well as science and technology.’’

Hartford College employs six teachers, some part-time, specialising in traditional school subjects as well as French and Latin, music and philosophy.

The school complies with the NSW Education Standards Authority curriculum, but customises its own syllabus.

“Each boy has his own mentor who meets every couple of weeks for mentoring and advice,’’ Mr Mitchell said.

“Every term the parents have an hour to talk to the principal.

“Ultimately parents are the most important educators, and the school’s there to assist the parents.’’

Parents are paying between $10,500 and $13,300 a year in tuition fees for boys in Years 5, 6 and 7, who are taught in small classes.

“We’re confident the school will grow,’’ Mr Mitchell said.

“It will be cash-flow positive in two or three years.’’

Parents Nathan and Tanya Brown chose the school for their 12-year-old son when they noticed a sign outside the new school building close to their home.

“The culture of the school appealed to us, especially the mentoring program for boys,’’ Ms Brown said.

“We liked the liberal arts curriculum and the focus on literacy for boys.

“We get quite a bit of feedback from the school – it’s not just about kids’ marks, it’s about how happy he is and his application to his studies.

“He’s found a good group of friends.’’

Hartford is the second start-up school for principal Frank Monagle, who was founding headmaster of Harkaway Hills College in Melbourne, a girls’ school set up by a dozen Catholic parents in 2016 to teach “traditional values’’ through the Parents for Education movement.

It now has 167 students between pre-Prep and Year 10, paying between $5225 and $9928 in tuition fees this year.

The school received $2.2 million in federal funding and $363,000 in Victorian government funding in 2021, equivalent to $13,000 per student.

Mr Monagle said he aims to integrate subjects, so that English lessons tie in with history or science subjects.

As an example, Year 7 boys studying Aesop’s Fables in English would study ancient Greece in history.

“I’ve found that subject teachers and departments within schools tend to be in their own silos so they haven’t a clue about what’s happening in other (subjects),’’ Mr Monagle said.

“We’re integrating the lessons as much as we can because boy react to the big picture – boys more than girls will ask, ‘Why are we learning this

Ed Case
Ed Case
June 27, 2023 12:26 pm

It seems there is a reluctance to challenge Linda Burney – she plays the race card early, and often.

It hasn’t got her anywhere, the Voice is going down anyway.

Asking reasonable questions in Parliament has worked out fine,
challenging her over stupid Zulu-type shit runs the risk of Yes consolidating the women’s vote.

Top Ender
Top Ender
June 27, 2023 12:27 pm

Anyone done TripADeal to Africa? Big adverts in the media recently. Grateful for comments.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
June 27, 2023 12:29 pm

Norway’s Wealth Tax Is Backfiring. Are Americans Paying Attention?

It was always naive to assume wealthy individuals would continue to bear Norway’s wealth tax. After all, one needn’t have a PhD in economics to realize that wealthy people are unlikely to sit idly by as lawmakers take more and more of their wealth (not income, mind you, wealth).

As early as the 17th century, Jean-Baptiste Colbert, the finance minister to France’s Louis XIV, observed the delicate nature of taxation.

“The art of taxation consists in so plucking the goose as to obtain the largest possible amount of feathers with the smallest possible amount of hissing,” wrote Colbert.

Norwegian lawmakers forgot this simple lesson, and now they can do little but watch as the wealth creators in their country depart, taking with them their capital, ingenuity, and taxable income.

“Atlas shrugs in Norway,” observed economist Peter St Onge.

Indeed.

Ed Case
Ed Case
June 27, 2023 12:29 pm

By the way, Moira Deeming/Kath Deves shit gives free publicity to the Trans Movement.
That’s why the Spooks/Nazis turn up at the rallies.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
June 27, 2023 12:31 pm

Top Ender says:
June 27, 2023 at 12:27 pm

Anyone done TripADeal to Africa? Big adverts in the media recently. Grateful for comments.

Top Ender – have done Trip a Deal to China – excellent value and extremely well organised – there were at least 6 other Trip a Deal following the same Itinerary at the same time

Wife and Sister on 2 for 1 Trip a Deal to Japan next month (me – unvaccinated & have been to Japan over 50 times on Business)

Johnny Rotten
June 27, 2023 12:32 pm

There are three kinds of intelligence: one kind understands things for itself, the other appreciates what others can understand, the third understands neither for itself nor through others. This first kind is excellent, the second good, and the third kind useless.

– Niccolo Machiavelli

Come in MontyPox Virus and Head Case, a Suitable Case for lots of Treatment. You are both at Number three.

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 27, 2023 12:36 pm

Groogs keeping a close eye on the spooks. Rest easy.

duncanm
duncanm
June 27, 2023 12:42 pm

(ht spectator).

Big W goes Big Woke.

Check out their response to the perfectly reasonable book review by Jlag92 on The Voice to Parliament Handbook by Thomas Mayo & Kerry O’Brien

No detail or real information.
Jlag92
20 days ago
Absolutely no detail about what changing the constitution will do. Was hoping to learn about what will happen when we enshrine the voice. Just propaganda and fluff.

..

Response from BIG W:
19 days ago
Big W
As a diverse workplace, BIG W recognises the significance of National Reconciliation Week for all Australians and as part of Woolworths Group, we are committed to Reconciliation and support the Uluru Statement from the Heart. We hope we can continue to learn together with our team, customers and communities to take actions towards a more inclusive Australia.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
June 27, 2023 12:47 pm

Same Cry that has been appearing this morning on Thread

Why is it so difficult to find MPs who aren’t useless?

It’s a sign, possibly, of my increasing age and bad temper that I find myself harking back to an imaginary past in which tradesmen could be relied upon to know what they were about. A time when people took pride in their work.

You know the sort of thing: back in the good old days a plumber or electrician would diagnose and fix the problem on the first call-out; you didn’t have to spend six months trying to get your builder to come back and reopen all the windows he painted shut; and if you got a brutal warlord marching on the capital with 25,000 hairy-bottomed ex-cons, he wouldn’t leave his coup half-finished and bugger off to Belarus. A great disappointment, I call it.

And forget about the police starting to look younger: they’re starting to look less police-like. I can’t get all ventilated about police forces celebrating Pride or shaking a tailfeather at the Notting Hill Carnival, but properly investigating potential wrongdoing still seems to be an important part of the job description.

Yesterday it was reported that they had decided not to investigate David Warburton, the Tory MP photographed looking sagacious next to a glass of whisky and an upturned baking tray with lines of white powder racked out on it.

As the police have argued in making their determination not to investigate, there’s no way of proving that those white lines were anything more potent than bicarbonate of soda. (Judging by how streetwise the member for Somerset and Frome seems to be, we can’t rule it out.) But they could always just have asked him. He has been quite happy to admit to the Mail on Sunday that they were, at least as far as he knew, cocaine; and that – deeply though he may now regret this moment of madness – he snoofed them up his hooter very cheerfully.

As much as Mr Warburton’s adventures show up what, as I say, seems like a dismaying lack of gumption in the police, they show up even more the very flaky qualities of today’s MPs.

Quite aside from the whole business of snorting cocaine, Mr Warburton has been accused of sexual harassment by three separate women, including the unimprovably Patridgean accusation that he squeezed a lady’s thigh at the British Kebab Awards. All these accusations, we should say, he denies.

Flirting with young women not your wife, we can understand. Taking drugs and drinking too much whisky, we can understand.

But deciding that when you’re caught doing it that you’re the victim of what Mr Warburton calls a ‘Kafkaesque witch-hunt’, or that, still more absurdly, you have been toppled by agents of a foreign power: come off it.

I’m afraid the plain interpretation available to all of us here is that, sympathise though we may with his human weaknesses, Mr Warburton is a very run-of-the-mill wally.

Is it really too much to hope for more than just run-of-the-mill wallies as MPs?

650 people serve in that role, out of the 67 million-odd who live in this country. That’s one in a hundred thousand.

Can it really be impossible to find a higher number of slightly above average people in so narrow a process of selection?

Week in, week out, what seems like a suspiciously high proportion of them turn out to be heroically uninterested in doing their jobs with any real conviction – and, what’s more, pathetically dim and unimaginative in the dodges they use to get out of it.

There are the pinchy ones, the gropey ones, the drunk ones, the druggy ones.

There was the Labour member who seems not only to have snorted a whole bunch of cocaine but used taxpayer money to fund his habit.

There are the many who don’t show the first sign of having bothered to master their briefs. And there are the very many who bound like Babycham fawns towards every investigative hack in a false moustache offering an unethical freebie or an imaginary lobbying post.

It’s as if being an MP isn’t a job that even the people who do it, half the time, take half as seriously as they take their side-hustles appearing on reality TV shows or running shouting matches on GB News.

And there’s no discernible rise in quality that goes with seniority.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 27, 2023 12:47 pm

The Voice to Parliament Handbook by Thomas Mayo & Kerry O’Brien

“Heal the ruptured soul of a nation” my fvcking hairy aunt!

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 27, 2023 12:48 pm

Anyone done TripADeal to Africa?

Maybe ask Yevgeny Prigozhin. He’s probably a very recent and enthusiastic customer.

Bazinga
Bazinga
June 27, 2023 12:50 pm

As an Arrernte woman, I feel stuck with a choice between systems I do not trust and the fear of giving in to rabid racists

She could vote No and satisfy both her needs

Johnny Rotten
June 27, 2023 12:54 pm

No detail or real information.
Jlag92
20 days ago
Absolutely no detail about what changing the constitution will do. Was hoping to learn about what will happen when we enshrine the voice. Just propaganda and fluff.

Please forward onto Tennis Elbow and Linda Burney for their deliberations and consideration. That’s if it gets through the LayBore Partee email and internet filtering system to the recipients. NOT.

Razey
Razey
June 27, 2023 12:55 pm

Wife and Sister on 2 for 1 Trip a Deal to Japan next month

Nice. Japan is great.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
June 27, 2023 12:55 pm

Interesting Assessments

24 hours that shook Russia: Experts weigh in on the Wagner ‘mutiny’

From Kaliningrad to Vladivostok, and farther afield, all eyes were on what looked like a march to Moscow. Was it a one-off or an ominous portent?

– Wake-up call or a bad omen?

Dmitry Trenin, a research professor at the Higher School of Economics and a lead research fellow at the Institute of World Economy and International Relations:

– The time for military action is limited

Vladimir Bruter, expert at the International Institute of Humanitarian and Political Studies

– The events were synced with Ukraine

Alexander Khramchikhin, Deputy Director of the Institute for Political and Military Analysis:

– It wasn’t Lukashenko who saved Russia

Andrey Suzdaltsev, Political expert, Associate Professor of the Faculty of World Economy and World Politics of the Higher School of Economics:

– The situation demands a legislative response

Sergey Oznobishchev, Director of the Institute for Strategic Assessments

– The rebels did not receive mass support

Sergey Poletaev, co-founder and editor of the Vatfor project:

The Beer whisperer
The Beer whisperer
June 27, 2023 12:58 pm

Albo is watching his place in history circling the S-bend. 30 years in Canberra gone in a single flush.

Liberty quote? Regardless, post of the day.

Johnny Rotten
June 27, 2023 1:00 pm

Yesterday it was reported that they (the Police) had decided not to investigate David Warburton, the Tory MP photographed looking sagacious next to a glass of whisky and an upturned baking tray with lines of white powder racked out on it.

C’mon Man. The so called glass of whisky (or whiskey) was actually a glass of cold tea and the white powder was actually plain flour. David is innocent until proven guilty. LOL.

Megan
Megan
June 27, 2023 1:01 pm

Anyone done TripADeal to Africa? Big adverts in the media recently. Grateful for comments.

Not personally, but have had several friends who’ve taken up one or more of the various 2 for 1 trips on offer. Not sure anymore if any of them were to Africa. Majority have been positive but there were at least two that came back with criticism around disorganisation on the ground and guides that were not particularly good at their jobs. TAD use local staff so it’s probably a reflection of the local recruiting practices rather than the Australian head office.

Which can happen with a lot of these types of companies. Like everything, you may get less than what you paid for.

That said, the negatives have not been enough to put me off taking up one of their great deals.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
June 27, 2023 1:02 pm

Looking up where the funding came from for the
The Voice to Parliament Handbook by Thomas Mayo & Kerry O’Brien
book. A very carefully worded fact check assured me it was a completely normal book deal with no funding from the Prime Minister or Federal government.

Any other info, including an apparent statement from the publisher (which leads to just a homepage, not the statement) seems to bee scrubbed from the internet.

Fauxchecking – its so hot right now.

Vicki
Vicki
June 27, 2023 1:06 pm

Cats, see what you think of this article republished in Historiology. The author is an ex History teacher, and he certainly understands the trajectory of the rise and fall of Rome.

COLLAPSE OF ROME 2.0: USA OFFERS CITIZENSHIP TO RECRUIT FOREIGN SOLDIERS
By Dr David Hilton -June 15, 2023

Every trend which brought down Rome is occurring in America today

When the United States was founded in 1789, the largely Masonic Founding Fathers envisioned it as a New Rome. The new nation’s constitution was modelled directly on the Roman Republican system. Latin was everywhere in mottos and in government. The architecture of the capital and government buildings throughout the US was explicitly Roman.

The founders of the USA wanted to establish a world power which would recreate the majesty and power of Rome. If we’re being fair, we’d have to admit they largely succeeded. America is a world hegemon which exceeds even Rome in its accomplishments.

We’re seeing in our lifetimes, however, that America is also tracing the trajectory of Rome’s collapse. While with Rome though it took centuries, America is collapsing within decades. The Western Roman Empire lasted the best part of 1000 years. America will be lucky to make it to a quarter of that.

There are still people who refuse to acknowledge that America, and therefore ‘the West’ or the ‘Free World’ or the ‘international community’ or the Five Eyes Beast System or whatever else we want to call this globalist crypto-empire, is collapsing.

It’s not Five Eyes, actually. Bibi told us that it’s really six in 2019.

It’s still too hard for many people to process that America really is going along this well-trodden historical path. So let’s go through the six main factors that led to the collapse of Rome, and trace out how they’re occurring in the US today: elite corruption; deep state takeover; needless imperial wars; monetary debasement; moral decline; and demographic replacement.

Elite corruption

The elites in Rome during both the Republican and Principate periods were notoriously corrupt. Gaining a political office was pretty much a means to pillage the people you were put in charge of. During the latter centuries, however, the corruption got to be so bad it undermined the security of the empire itself. Governors took bribes to allow barbarian invaders to sack the province they were administering. In 193 AD, the office of emperor itself was sold at auction. Everything came to have a price, until finally there was no public interest left to defend.

We see the same today in America. Bill and Hillary Clinton auctioned off favours during the 1990s and were remunerated via the Clinton Foundation, for example. It was during this time that China began to be admitted to the World Trade Organisation and the massive technology and wealth transfers started. Joe Biden pushed this type of corruption to an extreme, using his crack-addled son to extract lavish sums from China and Ukraine and share the funds with ‘the Big Guy’.

Deep state takeover

It’s clear Joe Biden is not in charge of his faculties. He’s a Weekend at Bernie’s puppet, propped up by faceless bureaucrats pursuing their own ideological agenda behind the scenes. The same thing happened in Rome.

It wasn’t ideology so much as personal enrichment which drove the Roman deep state, however. The Praetorian Guard, established as a personal bodyguard to the emperor after the disastrous civil wars of the Late Republic, became the kingmakers of the Roman system. They were bribed whenever a new emperor took office.

The bureaucrats of the American deep state do the same for the oligarchs who fund their think tank junkets and juicy academic posts. They go on to fatcat board positions after their ‘public service’, ensuring their swamp cabal stays in control of media, academia and the corporate world. Tucker Carlson has recently referred to it as ‘permanent Washington’.

Needless imperial wars

By the third century AD the permanent war machine in Rome that kept the ruling elite occupied and enriched was overstretching the resources of the empire. The Germans in the north and the Sassanid Persians in the east were requiring war to be conducted in multiple theatres, straining the economy to breaking point. Inflation and military mutinies triggered civil wars alongside the foreign ones. In 260 AD, the Sassanids captured Emperor Valerian. The Persian king of kings made him into a human stool. Or skinned him and had him stuffed as a trophy. The sources are unclear. Some typical Middle Eastern punishment, anyway. This triggered a cataclysmic loss of confidence in the ability of the government to protect the Roman people.

By the end of the third century, the long-prosperous and seemingly invincible Roman world was permanently damaged.

After the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991, America was the global hegemon. Peacenik globalists like Heinz Kissinger counselled that America should lay the foundations for a peaceful ‘liberal world order’ by making the world a shopping centre.

Instead, the bloodthirsty neocons used the amazingly lucky fortune of 9/11 to kick off twenty years of imperial warfare. Trillions of dollars have been drained from the USA in these projects and large swathes of the world have been disrupted. Now, America is tired right when it faces a real geopolitical threat from China.

Monetary debasement

As the debt of Western nations has ballooned beyond any ability to ever repay, it has been China that has played the role of creditor. Normies have been trained to think that financial crises are just a normal fact of life. This is not true. The planet experiences these regional and sometimes global financial crises because of the system of debt-based money creation established via the network of central banks around the world. This has been the basis of Anglo-American economic power, because the US dollar has been the currency that anchors the system since 1945 and particularly since 1971.

Those central banks have printed trillions, and Western governments have happily borrowed and spent those trillions. Lavish public welfare schemes such as our own National Disability Insurance Scheme (NDIS) have brought ‘developed’ nations to the brink of insolvency. This, alongside the impact of imperial wars on global supply chains, has now led to waves of inflation around the world which show no sign of abating.

The same thing happened in Rome. Nero was the first of the Roman emperors to begin mixing in inferior metals to the coinage so he could more easily pay his troops. This was largely how currency was circulated in the Roman world. By the third century, the coins were virtually worthless.

Moral decline

By Christian standards, the Romans were always depraved. Only recently with the wave of woke degeneracy in the West are we seeing the types of sexual depravity commonplace in the Roman world. Pedophilia was endemic, and went alongside sexual slavery. Homosexuality was frowned upon as a Greek weakness in early Roman history but was again commonplace by the Principate.

Yet even the Romans had some decorum. The idea that one’s entire identity could be based upon who you rooted would have appalled even the most degenerate Roman.

Yet here we are.

Demographic replacement

By the time the last Roman Emperor Romulus Augustulus was deposed in 476 AD at the age of 11, the Roman military forces were largely composed of Romanised Germans. Many of the barbarians spoke Latin; indeed, the more vigorous northern invaders appreciated the heritage of classical culture more than the remaining degenerate Roman urbanites. Many of the early barbarian kings, particularly those who converted to Christianity, took pains to preserve Latin and such Roman knowledge as engineering and medicine.

The civic nationalists of establishment Western conservatism would applaud.

Historians know better, however. 476 AD is often considered the end of antiquity because it was the end of the Roman world. We Anglo-Saxon and Nordic descendants are probably OK with that. The early Romans would not have been. By offering barbarians Roman citizenship en masse as a reward for military service, the Romans of the third century AD ensured the end of Rome in the fifth.

Demography really is destiny and America is going down the old Roman road but much, much faster.

Democrats in the House have even this month put forward a bill to let illegal immigrants – what used to be known as ‘invaders’ – become citizens after military service.

The globalists running the US empire have skipped the third century and gone straight to the fifth. Their ideology convinces them that they have transcended all boundaries of colour, creed, religion and tongue. They are the first post-human elite; a transhuman superelite destined to rule the world and bring about a new age of AI-enabled enlightenment.

They’re not. They’re just a bunch of sicko creeps who watched too much Star Trek.

In the meantime, they’ve sold America down the drain. The barbarians have all the tech and treasure accumulated by heritage Americans through thrift and talent. Like Odoacer, Alaric and Attila, they’ve learned the empire’s tricks.

Whoever is installed by the postmodern Praetorians after Biden had best be careful.

They might make a nice Chinese trophy one day.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
June 27, 2023 1:07 pm

WAS PRIGOZHIN’S MUTINY A WESTERN INTELLIGENCE OP DERAILED BY RUSSIA’S SPIES?

There is still no consensus about the motive for Yevgeny Prigozhin’s and there is a lot of speculation. Some have posed the false dichotomy of having to choose “real coup” versus “pretend coup.” That approach ignores some troubling irregularities and facts, which point to a sophisticated double cross operation.

This is strong circumstantial evidence that Prigozhin not only went rogue, he became a traitor.

Let me make one obvious point from a counter intelligence standpoint — providing NATO with the locations of Russian units is the equivalent of giving Eskimos a truck load of snow in January.

NATO’s robust ISR capabilities makes it highly likely that those locations were already known to the U.S. and European military and intelligence officers.

This type of corroborating intel is what George Smiley, the mole hunter in the British TV series, Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy, called “fools gold.” It looks like the real deal but, when properly evaluated, does not tell you anything you don’t already know.

It simply persuades those eager to believe to swallow the bait.

I want to suggest an alternative possibility — Yevgeny Prigozhin was bait. The Russian military and intelligence chiefs are not deaf, dumb and blind. Since the start of the Special Military Operation, Western politicians and pundits stridently have insisted that Putin is weak; Putin faces serious political opposition; Putin is terminally ill; and Russia is teetering on the brink of economic and political disaster. Here is former Ukrainian President Poroshenko throwing some shade Putin’s way:

Russia was able to accomplish several objectives during this double-cross mutiny. It moved troops to areas under the guise of countering the coup that otherwise would have drawn attention and possible attack if carried out during normal wartime operations. Vladimir Putin gained a better appreciation of his popular support. Not even the Communist Party, which despises Putin, came out to back Prigozhin. The West continues to insist that this was a show of weakness by Putin. Really? No political opponent of any consequence jumped on the coup bandwagon. The Russian people did not flock to the streets in an Orange revolution rush calling for Putin’s head. Just the opposite.

Johnny Rotten
June 27, 2023 1:09 pm

The person shot and killed at Bondi Junction this morning.

The Police Spokesperson on the ABC News just now said “The person shot has not been formally identified”. However, this dickhead then stated that the (dead) person is known to the Police and was a Bondi Junction resident. A high level Criminal Identity apparently. So not formally identified? So, where are these ‘formally’ people to do the identification? AND the next of kin have been notified. LOL So just name the Farker you T.W.A.T’s. FFS.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 27, 2023 1:13 pm

AND the next of kin have been notified. LOL So just name the Farker you T.W.A.T’s. FFS.

Daily Mail has named him – one Alen Moradian.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
June 27, 2023 1:16 pm

Weapons and Strategy

What Didn’t Happen in Russia

There was no uprising and Prigozhin couldn’t deliver what he promised

Everyone is talking about what happened in Russia, but almost no one is talking about what didn’t happen in Russia.

Yevgeny Prigozhin, the cofounder of the Wagner group along with Dmitry Utkin, mustered about 8,000 men and entered Russian territory on what he called a March for Justice. He was heading for Moscow. Just as he was able to occupy the local Ministry of Defense headquarters in Rostov-on-Don, Prigozhin’s aim apparently was to take over the Russian defense ministry in Moscow. He demanded the immediate resignations of the current defense minister, Sergei Shoigu, and the Chief of the General Staff of Russia’s armed forces, Valery Gerasimov.

As is well known, his forces didn’t make it there. A convoy of a few thousand Wagnerites, under the command of Utkin, stopped some 120 km from Moscow. Prigozhin himself stayed in Rostov-on-Don at the Defense Headquarters, first trying to call Vladimir Putin, who refused to talk to him, and then to lower rank officials. Finding himself without support, with his small force facing annihilation, and his family threatened, Prigozhin sought an intermediary and found one in Putin ally, Alexander Lukashenko, the President of Belarus. With Putin hovering in the background, a deal was struck. Prigozhin and the 8,000 men he brought with him, would be going into exile in Belarus. Treason charges were dropped. The remaining Wagner troops, somewhere around 12,000 were offered contracts with the Russian army, or they could go home. Many of them, according to reports, are taking the deal and signing up.

To launch his operation, Prigozhin took a number of steps over a period of the past six or more months. Among these were constant, and provably false, accusations that he was not getting enough ammunition to fight in Bakhmut. Along with that, Prigozhin charged that the army leadership was corrupt, that they refused to defend his flanks during the Bakhmut operation, and that they were losing massively in the Ukraine war. None of these accusations were true.

In the past few weeks the Russian army leadership demanded that Wagner be brought under their control and they required each and every one of them, Prigozhin most of all, to sign a contract with the Russian command putting them under Russian army orders. Prigozhin refused.

Prigozhin then fabricated a couple of incidents, claiming that his forces were attacked from the rear by the Russian army. He published two fake videos that made the rounds of social media, along with a one-man diatribe against the rotten army leadership.

It turns out, however, there was more to it than that. Sources report that Prigozhin had been in touch with Ukrainian military intelligence (known as the HUR MO), at least since last January. Some sources say that he also flew to Africa, where Wagner forces are operational, to hold a meeting with Ukrainian intelligence officials.

Similarly there are reports that he also was talking to a number of special force units inside Russia, asking them to join him.

People forget that the Wagner Group is a product of Russian military intelligence, the GRU. While Prigozhin himself has no military background, his co-founded, Dmitry Utkin was a GRU Spetsnaz special operator.

We now know there was no uprising and no one offered to join Prigozhin on his furtive quest. Indeed, even the real operational commander of the Wagner forces, though officially an advisor, and the Deputy head of Russia’s special military operation in Ukraine, Sergei Surovikin, who was threatened by Prigozhin, refused to go along with him and published a video where he told Wagner forces not to go into Russia or fight Russians. In the video, Surovikin is sitting with an automatic machine pistol clutched in his right hand.

The lack of support does not mean that Prigozhin was poorly regarded by Russians. In fact, Prigozhin was cheered in Rostov-on-Don, perhaps because he is seen as the Hero of Bakhmut.

But there are things about Prigozhin that are starting to leak out that will tarnish his popular image.

To begin with, he said there was no bloodshed in his March for Justice, a blatant lie. Thirty seven pilots and crews of Russian helicopters and one transport aircraft that were shot down by the Wagnerites, is evidence there was killing.

Nor is Prigozhin free from corruption. He had sweetheart deals with the Russian army where Prigozhin’s companies provided supplies at inflated prices. Those contracts were cancelled a week or so before Prigozhin initiated his crossing into Russian territory.

But the real problem are the contacts Prigozhin had with Ukraine’s secret intelligence services, his alleged offers to sell out Russian command centers, and his bargaining for support, not so much from Ukraine, but from the United States. It should surprise no one that the CIA was fully informed by their Ukrainian counterparts, who are desperate to see Russia’s leaders overturned and NATO to come to their rescue.

Prigozhin offered a very good deal. In exchange for outside support he would take over Russia, reorient to the West, and leave Ukraine. The offer, at a critical moment when the Ukrainian offensive is faltering, was an offer hard to refuse.

Putin has a major challenge now to deal with the dissidents in his regime who oppose him. While none of them came forward overtly, it appears likely the FSB and Putin know who Prigozhin was talking to. They will have to judge whether these individuals and organizations are reliable, or if they will have to be dealt with by Russian security.

The night of the long knives may happen soon if Putin is to survive as Russia’s leader.

It isn’t clear what will happen to Prigozhin and to his collaborator Utkin. While the Wagner force remains a potent and useful tool for Russia, its current leaders are a major liability.

What didn’t happen in Russia was a general uprising and an open fracturing of the security apparat. But what didn’t happen may yet happen, unless Putin can act decisively. No one can say if he can, or if he will.

Johnny Rotten
June 27, 2023 1:18 pm

ABC News ticker tape message across the bottom of the TV screen – “This bears the hallmarks of a Gangland killing………………….”.

Brown bears or Grizzly bears? Please explain Your ALPBC………

More money needed for the ALPBC to help with the use of English. LOL.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 27, 2023 1:20 pm

Truffle news.

Some black truffles grown in eastern US may be less valuable lookalike species, study finds (Phys.org, 26 Jun)

Some truffle producers in the eastern U.S. intending to grow European black truffles (Tuber melanosporum) are also accidentally cultivating winter truffles (Tuber brumale), a related species that looks nearly identical but sells at a lower price, according to a new study from truffle researchers at the University of Florida and Michigan State University.

The findings are published in the journal Mycorrhiza.

In fact, European black truffles and winter truffles look so similar that the researchers used genetic testing to identify the specimens in the study. The winter truffle, or Tuber brumale, has the same black, textured exterior and white-veined interior of the European black truffle, Tuber melanosporum. While both are sold commercially, they differ in price and culinary properties.

“The owners of the truffle orchards in the study reached out to us because they were finding truffles in their orchards they suspected were not European black truffles, and we confirmed this through DNA barcode sequencing,” said Matthew Smith, senior author of the study and an associate professor in the UF/IFAS department of plant pathology.

“It is important for people to know that there are more than just ‘black truffles’ and ‘white truffles’ in the world. There are more than a dozen species of commercially harvested truffles, and as our study shows, even two truffles that may appear similar at first glance may be two species with completely different culinary properties,” Lemmond said.

I am not a truffle connoisseur. In fact I think I’ve managed to live all my decades on this planet without ever having tasted a truffle. But I thought the article was very interesting. Also a scientific journal called “Mycorrhiza” is an excellent thing.

Dunny Brush
Dunny Brush
June 27, 2023 1:20 pm

For what it’s worth, a fairly well known defo lawyer of my acquaintance reckons Pesutto is going to get thumped by Deeming.

Ed Case
Ed Case
June 27, 2023 1:22 pm

Sure, sure, but for Deeming/ Deves the trans movement would be nothing more than an act at the Tool Box Bar.

They’re giving it legitimacy by being ratbags with no electoral appeal.
Why did the Liberal Party intervene to preselect Deves, who’d been a member for a few weeks.
Any fule coulda told them she had no chance in the seat, and that’s how it turned out.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
June 27, 2023 1:26 pm

RUSSIA: NO ONE KNOWS ANYTHING

Screenwriter William Goldman’s famous line about Hollywood—”No one knows anything”—applies fully to the confusing scene in Russia right now.

And let’s not go further without also bringing up for the millionth time Churchill’s description of Russia as “a riddle, wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma.”

There’s a sentence in one of the Wall Street Journal‘s many articles about the matter today that reminds of this: “The full story behind why Prigozhin launched—then stunningly halted—his revolt isn’t yet known.”

One reason for this is the scarcity of western European or American reporters inside Russia who have developed good sources and understand the country. In this regard one must wonder whether it is a mere coincidence that the American reporter most fluent in Russian and with intimate knowledge of the country—Evan Gershkovich—was arrested and jailed several weeks ago. (If you have a long Cold War memory, re-run the Nick Danilov arrest in Moscow in 1986, just weeks before the climactic Reagan-Gorbachev summit in Iceland.) Joe Biden has been strangely quiet about the matter, and while there is one obvious explanation for that, it is also possible that our intelligence agencies didn’t have any hint it was going to happen, or did know it, and Biden’s team didn’t know just what, if anything, to do or say about it.

Lots of aspects of this “coup” or “insurrection” don’t make a lot of sense, unless . . . it was an exercise from the old Communist playbook going back to the Stalinist purges of the 1930s of setting up a “controlled opposition” as a means of smoking out dissidents and disloyal party members so they could be eliminated before a threat grew. And even legitimate protest groups, like Solidarity in Poland in the early 1980s or Charter 77 in Czechoslovakia, were always quickly infiltrated (kind of like the FBI and the Proud Boys, Weather Underground, etc), and divided, disrupted, or rolled up.

Maybe it is as it seems on the surface, and things are chaotic in Russia, and there is a lot of friction between the Wagner Group and the Russian military, though I’d be surprised if Putin is completely ignorant of Machiavelli’s teaching on the defects of relying on mercenary arms.

There’s also speculation that Prigozhin might have made off with a nuclear weapon or two from one of military sites his forces briefly overran. Otherwise he better have a food taster and avoid tall buildings in his “exile” in Belarus.

In the meantime, be highly skeptical of every “news” or “analysis” story you read in the media. No one knows anything.

Ed Case
Ed Case
June 27, 2023 1:26 pm

For what it’s worth, a fairly well known defo lawyer of my acquaintance reckons Pesutto is going to get thumped by Deeming.

Who took out the Permit for the Rally?
If it was Deeming, isn’t it on her when masked Feds turn up dressed in black, giving Ave Salutes to the cameras?

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
June 27, 2023 1:34 pm

How Obama’s Muslim Childhood Became a Taboo Topic

Reflections on when a gigantic biographical inconvenience was successfully hidden and denied.

by Daniel Pipes

But that fascination dies when it comes to Barack Obama, the Left’s quasi-sacred figure. About him, no curiosity, please, no gossip, and no hint of impropriety.

When he falsely claimed in 1991 to have been born in Kenya, and not in Hawaii, blame fell on a sloppy literary agent. When Stanley Kurtz proved that Obama lied about not being a member of Chicago’s socialist New Party and a candidate for it, the Obama P.R. machine smeared Kurtz and the story disappeared.

When clear evidence showed that Obama had lied about having been born and raised a Muslim, the researcher who made the case was reviled, his investigation scorned, and his argument vaporized.

I should know, as I was that researcher. I wrote five times on this topic in 2007-08, during Obama’s first presidential campaign (three of those times in FrontPageMag.com) and then aggregated all this information, plus new details, in a long and (so far) definitive September 2012 article, “Obama’s Muslim Childhood,” serialized in the Washington Times.

All those writings emphasized that Obama was now a Christian. The first one began with:

“If I were a Muslim I would let you know,” Barack Obama has said, and I believe him. In fact, he is a practicing Christian, a member of the Trinity United Church of Christ. He is not now a Muslim. But was he ever a Muslim or seen by others as a Muslim?

I answered in the affirmative and showed how contradictory evidence concerning Obama’s religious background – from Obama’s father and name, from years in Indonesia, from his family, and most of all from himself – conclusively points to his being born and raised a Muslim.

Throughout, I emphasized not the Islam issue but the character issue; if Obama lies about something so fundamental, how can he be trusted? His other lies, such as Kenyan birth and socialist party non-membership, confirm this problem.

Responses came fast and hard. Ben Rhodes’ “echo chamber” nearly fainted at the impudence of my lèse majesté. Like Kurtz, I was slandered without the facts I presented ever addressed. Here’s a small sampling of the deluge:

I expect that, at some future time when Barack Obama loses his sacral quality, historians will take great interest in his childhood religious affiliation. They will wonder how, in the information-heavy, politically-riven, and celebrity-mad culture of early twenty-first century United States, so gigantic a biographical inconvenience could be successfully hidden and rendered taboo. They will study how, in a modern democratic society, a determined candidate can suppress even the most important and relevant information.

I look forward to the vindication.

Tom
Tom
June 27, 2023 1:35 pm
Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 27, 2023 1:39 pm

Irony is ironic.

Toxic ideas online are spreading and growing through the use of irony, analysis shows (Phys.org, 26 Jun)

Irony has become a medium for the spread of toxic ideas online, a new analysis shows.

The use of irony is growing in both contemporary politics and radical online communities because it helps people to make sense of and navigate major political and economic changes, researchers have said.

Ideas, jokes, memes, images are emerging as an animating force for new social movements and are now inextricably intertwined with the rise of the alt-right.

The fun thing is they never acknowledge that the reason that irony is so common among righties is encapsulated in the very definition of the word:

Incongruity between what might be expected and what actually occurs.

I think the incomprehension of the Left is funny. Ironic even. They have all these doctrines that they hold to be unchallengeable, yet what actually occurs is in direct contrast to their doctrines. Ironically.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
June 27, 2023 1:44 pm

Ok Im seeing a trend.

3 separate people/groups have spontaneously made commentary, asked about the in-voice 3 groups have called it shit.
I dont talk politics at work, yet 3 mobs coming to town and turning up to medical have made it quite clear how they feel.

Unrepresentative sample given I work in mining, but no love for the in-voice so far.

Johnny Rotten
June 27, 2023 1:49 pm

Ideas, jokes, memes, images are emerging as an animating force for new social movements and are now inextricably intertwined with the rise of the alt-right.

Irony in humour cannot work now because of Wokeness. And American humor rarely has any irony.

Ed Case
Ed Case
June 27, 2023 1:53 pm

It already had support from the elite. At what point did you want someone to raise an objection?

I’m saying Deves and Deeming aren’t legit as objectors.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
June 27, 2023 1:53 pm

Incongruity between what might be expected and what actually occurs

Demonstrated in this meme I just memed…
https://imgflip.com/i/7qp7w4

Dot
Dot
June 27, 2023 1:54 pm

Rebel parents worried about “woke teaching’’ are starting up their own small schools, in a renaissance of “classical” education.

Twenty-two students have enrolled in the conservative Hartford College, which opened in Sydney this year as Australia’s “first liberal arts school for boys’’.

Good luck and godspeed.

Here is a Catholic alternative to Year 11 and 12:

https://augustineacademy.com.au/our-campus/

shatterzzz
June 27, 2023 1:56 pm

It seems there is a reluctance to challenge Linda Burney – she plays the race card early, and often.

Considering the amount of whining the gucci-gnome does over what 251s need makes me wonder what does the Dept. of 251 Affairs do? .. catering for 251s doesn’t seem high on it’s agenda ……….

cohenite
June 27, 2023 1:59 pm

I’m saying Deves and Deeming aren’t legit as objectors.

I say you’re flooting the toot crotchless; but as a matter of vegetation which sheilas do you think are doing the hard yards for the normies.

Lysander
Lysander
June 27, 2023 2:00 pm

Whichever way you look at it, Putin’s days are numbered.

I’m not so sure. I think many middle aged to older Russians still love him. The younger ones who didn’t experience the chaos and deaths due to Russia’s “democracy experiment from 1991 to 1999” probably don’t support him as much. But, according to Konstantin (who is pro NATO, former Russian born in a gulag), Putin is and remains the saviour of Russia from that time.

cohenite
June 27, 2023 2:01 pm

RFK jr looks in shape; a bit of NPP goes a long way; and the biden camp can’t object because they’re using drugs to resuscitate a corpse.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 27, 2023 2:01 pm

Considering the amount of whining the gucci-gnome does over what 251s need makes me wonder what does the Dept. of 251 Affairs do?

Well said!

Johnny Rotten
June 27, 2023 2:06 pm

I’m always thinking about creating. My future starts when I wake up every morning… Every day I find something creative to do with my life.

– Miles Davis

Tom
Tom
June 27, 2023 2:06 pm

Ideas, jokes, memes, images are emerging as an animating force for new social movements and are now inextricably intertwined with the rise of the alt-right.

What’s really funny about the rise of irony is that:

1. It is being noticed (and objected to) by lefties, who lack the self-awareness to realise they are our new cultural ruling class.
2. Most of the reason for #1 is that lefties believe in their mad ideology with religious fervour, which makes them humourless, witless and therefore mystified by irony.
3. The 21st century left rules Western culture through bullying as it long ago abandoned the battle of ideas.
4. The battle of ideas now resides exclusively on the right as the left now rules through bullying and emotional infantilism — the calling card of the left’s big government nanny state, which is most suffocating in nanny states like Australia.

Arky
June 27, 2023 2:07 pm

That ideology was already present here before the Soviets began signing any cheques.

..
Every ideology is present at all times.
There is nothing new under the Sun.
The signing of the cheques is the indicator, and it’s ongoing.

shatterzzz
June 27, 2023 2:08 pm

The Police Spokesperson on the ABC News just now said “The person shot has not been formally identified”.

So no one in plod-land reads the Mail online .. they had no trouble with names .. lol!
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12236451/Bondi-Junction-Man-believed-shot-Spring-St-Sydney.html

Johnny Rotten
June 27, 2023 2:09 pm

Whichever way you look at it, Putin’s days are numbered.

Well, yes. How about the number 5,000 days?

Ed Case
Ed Case
June 27, 2023 2:12 pm

… which sheilas do you think are doing the hard yards for the normies.
Why have any sheilas gotta do the hard yards for the normies?

Trannies in Pubs and Clubs are using the Ladies today, they were using the Ladies yesterday, they were using the Ladies 60 years ago..
Wassa big deal?
Do you want Security at all Ladies toilets doing a check for Male bits?
There’d be a fair few takers for that job.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
June 27, 2023 2:13 pm

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shatterzzz
June 27, 2023 2:13 pm
Johnny Rotten
June 27, 2023 2:14 pm

shatterzzzsays:
June 27, 2023 at 2:08 pm
The Police Spokesperson on the ABC News just now said “The person shot has not been formally identified”.

So no one in plod-land reads the Mail online .. they had no trouble with names .. lol!
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12236451/Bondi-Junction-Man-believed-shot-Spring-St-Sydney.html

Oh, they new alright as they managed to contact his next of kin………..lol. BUT, could not tell the Australian MSM………………….FFS.

Johnny Rotten
June 27, 2023 2:18 pm

Trannies in Pubs and Clubs are using the Ladies today, they were using the Ladies yesterday, they were using the Ladies 60 years ago..

I like the old joke about the Scotsman who was caught having a p*ss in the Ladies. He said, “Hoots Mon’ I thought it said the ‘Laddies’…………….boom, boom as Basil Brush would say……………

Ed Case
Ed Case
June 27, 2023 2:18 pm

This is just another version of: objecting now is not the right time. It’s vacillating.
Okay.
Let’s say Barnaby Joyce gets back as Nationals Leader and starts attacking Linda Burney Andrew Bolt-style.
Do you think that would help the No case or hinder it?
I’m saying it would sink the No case, and that’s what Deves/Deeming are doing on Trannies.
It just discredits any sensible opinion.
Leftism 101.

rosie
rosie
June 27, 2023 2:22 pm

This bears the hallmarks

You thought they should have said
‘This bares’?

Vicki
Vicki
June 27, 2023 2:23 pm

Lots of aspects of this “coup” or “insurrection” don’t make a lot of sense, unless . . . it was an exercise from the old Communist playbook going back to the Stalinist purges of the 1930s of setting up a “controlled opposition” as a means of smoking out dissidents and disloyal party members so they could be eliminated before a threat grew. And even legitimate protest groups, like Solidarity in Poland in the early 1980s or Charter 77 in Czechoslovakia, were always quickly infiltrated (kind of like the FBI and the Proud Boys, Weather Underground, etc), and divided, disrupted, or rolled up.

This has been said recently by another commentator – was it Simplicius? Seems a very good possibility.

cohenite
June 27, 2023 2:26 pm

Wassa big deal?

Sorry, I missed the time; the gin bottle is obviously open.

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 27, 2023 2:28 pm

What is the time difference with Lebanon? It can’t be helping.

Johnny Rotten
June 27, 2023 2:29 pm

You thought they should have said
‘This bares’?

They didn’t think. Madame Obvious.

johanna
johanna
June 27, 2023 2:33 pm

Re Linda Burney saying that Aborigines have no say: bit of a foot shooting exercise.

She is (allegedly) indigenous, and a high profile Federal Minister. Is she totally ineffectual, or are all her colleagues racist pigs, or what? Does she have no say? Does getting national media coverage count as having ‘no say?’

Burney is a principle free zone, as we already know from her history, including that as a piece of flora or fauna. But a prominent politician getting national coverage for having ‘no say’ really takes the biscuit.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
June 27, 2023 2:34 pm

Ed-Mong an advocate of the Prosciutto* school of warfare.
You cant be defeated if you never fight!

*A salty ham.

cohenite
June 27, 2023 2:38 pm

Latest on world energy now with the Energy Institute not BP:

https://www.energyinst.org/exploring-energy/resources/news-centre/media-releases/ei-statistical-review-of-world-energy-energy-system-struggles-in-face-of-geopolitical-and-environmental-crises

Renewables (excluding hydro) now 7.5% of world energy consumption. That’s after about $5trillion investment.

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 27, 2023 2:39 pm

Ed Casesays:
June 27, 2023 at 1:26 pm
For what it’s worth, a fairly well known defo lawyer of my acquaintance reckons Pesutto is going to get thumped by Deeming.

Who took out the Permit for the Rally?
If it was Deeming, isn’t it on her when masked Feds turn up dressed in black, giving Ave Salutes to the cameras?

No, idiot features. It’s on the “masked Feds” for organising the infiltration (if they did), and on the Victorian Police for allowing it to occur (which they did, more than once).

The whole Dan of the Dead and ASIO “we must stop these Nazis” push has been completely discredited by their own actions.

Lysander
Lysander
June 27, 2023 2:39 pm

*A salty ham.

Derived from a pig.

Lysander
Lysander
June 27, 2023 2:42 pm

Even the Military Industrial Complex can be right once a day:

https://www.aspistrategist.org.au/a-very-russian-revolution/

Quote:

Those who welcomed the mercenaries were showing support for the men who have demonstrated themselves as most effective at killing Ukrainians.

Johnny Rotten
June 27, 2023 2:47 pm

The Neocons & Endless Wars & Endless Corruption

“I reported that the Pentagon admits that “due to accounting errors,” they LOST $6.2 BILLION! This is nothing new. The Pentagon has NEVER passed even one audit. Money simply vanishes and is often used by the Neocons to undermine geopolitics to further their own agenda. Then there is the sheer price gouging that is mindblowing. There is ZERO accountability EVER when it comes to war.

I have heard the conspiracy theories that this $6.2 billion funded the Russian coup. That is not true. There is a lot more behind the scenes regarding the coup and the Western press is too biased to really report the truth. They would rather portray this is the end of Putin than dig even a quarter-inch beath the surface.

I have not just reconstructed the world monetary system but also included every form of government I have been able to document. Just as I reported that the Peloponnesian War was Sparta v Athens, which was ancient Communism v Capitalism. Sparta never issued any coinage, and they rejected private property. They were the first commune that inspired Marx, the French, and many others. It was Sparta that won against Democracy, which gave people like Schwab hope.

The office of the Inspector General in our governmental system is only a symbolic gesture to the old Roman Plebeian Tribune, Tribunus plebis, the tribune of the people. The Tribune had the power to bring criminal charges against any government official. It was created because the elite’s corruption was unprecedented during the Roman Republic. Thereafter during the Imperial Era, the Emperor would claim to have the Tribucan power to defend the people against the corrupt Senate. We are desperately in need of that power being restored today. I do not support “Republics” or career politicians that can be bought and paid for. There was $2.3 trillion missing, and that was in 2001. Magically, one of the three planes during 911 just so happened to strike the Penago but only the room where all the records were stored. Obviously, the terrorists were trying to prevent the audit of the Pentagon that Rumsfeld swore would take place the day before 911.

The Plebeian Tribune defended the people against the corruption of the government. This was the prelude to Caesar crossing the Rubicon when it became clear the whole system was just too corrupt. The Plebeian Tribune was perhaps the first attempt to stop corruption. This was not a military function but rather a powerful political office. The Tribune had the power to defend the people. This function was called ius auxilii. The body of the plebeian (people) was sacrosanct – the people were Rome, not the politicians. In Latin, the term for this power is sacrosancta potestas. The Plebeian Tribune had the power to veto anything that the Senate tried to enact.

The number of Plebeian Tribunes varied, but in the beginning, there were two appointed to this position when this office was created in 494 BC. This coincided with the First Secession of the Plebeians getting their own assembly. When the plebeians seceded in 494 BC, demanding representation (similar to our not taxation without representation), the patricians granted them the right to have Plebeian Tribunes with greater power than the patrician tribal heads. These Plebeian Tribunes became very powerful figures in Rome’s Republican government. They had the right to veto but even much more. Thus, our Congress is voted by the people, and the Senate was originally established whereby the states appointed Senators. It took a Constitutional Amendment in 1912 to allow the Senate to be subject to election. We can see the original form of the US government was to mirror that of the Roman Republic. The office of the Inspector General became the substitute for the Plebeian Tribunes.

As I have said, hand ANY power to those in government, and they will expand that power endlessly. Once the plebs created a governing body, they too followed that same path of endless expansion. The number of Plebeian Tribunes grew rapidly to five from two. By 457 B.C., there were now ten Plebeian Tribunes. Soon after creating the Plebeian Tribunes, the plebeians were then allowed two Plebeian Aediles. The election of the Plebeian Tribune, from 471 BC, after the passage of the lex Publilia Voleronis, is when we then find that they expanded their bureaucracy and then a council of plebeians presided over by a Plebeian Tribune.

The power of the Tribune grew. That is when a patrician, Publius Clodius Pulcher (93–52 BC), who had a distinguished noble family, actually had himself adopted by a plebeian branch of their family so he could run for the office of a plebeian tribune under the plebeian name of Clodius. He was a populist Roman politician who saw the growing corruption in the Senate led by Cato the Younger and Cicero. He became a political contender during the First Triumvirate of Caesar, Pompey, and Crassus. He went as far as to stage an adoption by a Pleb to defend them.

As a Plebeian Tribune, Clodius pushed through an ambitious legislative program, including free grain for the poor. This would become a corrupt welfare program in itself for when Caesar came to power, he ordered a census and found extensive corruption to get free grain with multiple fictional people claiming residence in the same small flat. Nevertheless, Clodius is primarily remembered for his feuds with corrupt political opponents, particularly Cicero, whose writings offer antagonistic, detailed accounts and allegations concerning Clodius’ political activities and scandalous lifestyle. Cicero targeted Clodius, who was then tried for the capital offense of sacrilege, following his intrusion on the women-only rites of the goddess Bona Dea. They claimed Clodius intended to rape Caesar’s wife, Pompeia. Clodius’ feud with the fake news author and corrupt Cicero led to Cicero’s temporary exile. Clodius’ feud with Titus Annius Milo (died 48 BC) ended in his own death at the hands of Milo’s bodyguards. In 52 BC, Milo was then prosecuted for the murder of Clodius and exiled from Rome. His friend, Marcus Tullius Cicero, unsuccessfully defended him in the speech Pro Milone.

Without a Plebeian Tribune with the power to bring criminal charges against anyone on capitol hill, including senators, congressmen, bureaucrats, and even the Attorney General, the corruption in Washington will consume the entire nation like cancer.

Lindsey Graham can promote World War III because of his hatred of every Russian, but the hard facts suggest that the US cannot produce as many munitions as Russia. This corruption is consuming everything! The United States spends over $800 billion annually on defense with ZERO accountability! Shai Assad, former Defense Department contract negotiator Assad said the Pentagon overpays for absolutely everything! What NASA pays under $400 for, the Pentagon pays $10,000. The West is running out of ammunition. Perhaps Lindsey and his Neocon buddies should stop skimming off these contracts and diverting money to overthrow other leaders or to keep the ones they like in power with endless bribes.

For the people, war is only death and destruction. For the Neocon politicians – it’s an endless gravy train for all their clandestine operations.”

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/world-news/corruption/the-neocons-endless-wars-endless-corruption/?utm_source=Newsletter&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=RSS

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 27, 2023 2:47 pm

Ed Casesays:
June 27, 2023 at 2:18 pm
This is just another version of: objecting now is not the right time. It’s vacillating.
Okay.
Let’s say Barnaby Joyce gets back as Nationals Leader and starts attacking Linda Burney Andrew Bolt-style.
Do you think that would help the No case or hinder it?
I’m saying it would sink the No case, and that’s what Deves/Deeming are doing on Trannies.
It just discredits any sensible opinion.
Leftism 101.

Turd Case

Pray, summarise for us the “sensible opinion”. So far it seems to be “Accept whatever the left wants”, which, given that you are a shill for leftards, is probably what you really believe.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
June 27, 2023 2:48 pm

Sun Mong quotes

The supreme art of war is to surrender to the enemy without fighting.

If your opponent is of choleric temper, appease him.

….
Know nothing about your enemy and know nothing about yourself and you can surrender before hundred battles without disaster.


Doing nothing is the essence of the war.

Hence that general is skilful in attacking his own side does not know what to defend; and he is skilful in defense whose own side does not know what they represent.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
June 27, 2023 2:49 pm

(Whadda) Gal Gadot is in a new movie called Heart of Stone. She is apparently quite emphatic that it not be gender-swapped version of James Bond.

Speaking with Total Film ahead of the action movie’s release, Gadot addressed the way Hollywood is constantly taking male movie characters and gender-swapping them without thinking about how the characters should be different beyond just their gender. She said of Heart of Stone:

“I wanted to show a great story about a female character who is doing it in the action genre. Right? She is thriving. But at the same time, how many times have they just switched gender? They take a story that all about the men and they just change it to a woman, and then go shoot it? To me, it was so important in the DNA to make Heart of Stone a little different, because men and women are different. They’re built differently, they operate differently.”

“They (men and women) are built differently.” You could not have picked a better person to exemplify the difference.

It is funny that she served in the Israeli military, yet she seems so much more feminine than all those other Hollywood actresses who are cranky, preachy, angry, and entitled.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
June 27, 2023 2:52 pm
thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
June 27, 2023 2:54 pm

Sparta never issued any coinage, and they rejected private property


https://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.04.0009%3Achapter%3D6%3Asection%3D13

Arky
June 27, 2023 2:54 pm

dover0beach says:
June 27, 2023 at 2:00 pm
‘Should be a clear rethink’: Government slammed over $110 million in aid for Ukraine as Coalition calls for more support
Coalition foreign policy is a facsimile of whatever US foreign policy is at the time.

..
Yes. Because the USA is our major ally. One that helped us fight off the Japanese in WW2 and which kept the communist bloc from expanding southwards toward us during the Cold War. It isn’t surprising that defence policy is largely bi-partisan and revolves around our major and proved reliable ally. The one which every two years proves it’s usefulness to us by practising saving our arses with an exercise landing marines on our shores (Talisman- Sabre).

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
June 27, 2023 2:56 pm

Vicki, as your piece notes, the lessons of history are still there for our observation and contemplation of various perils. I was struck with the recent Russian push by a dissident usurper (against the other generals) to gather mercenaries and try to effect some sort of change, which was par for the course in the later Roman Empire. This Russian move was rather as Magnus Maximus did in 383AD leaving Britain taking all the legionary forces from Hadrian’s Wall that were protecting against Pictish attack to try his luck against a hopeless emperor (Gratian, whom he killed). He made an accommodation with St. Ambrose (a key powerbroker) in Trier, who was having trouble across the Rhine with barbarian insurgents, and the Eastern Emperor Theodosius, for a time, allowed Maximus to have the Imperium in the West, and to live. When things changed, Theodosius moved and slew Maximus.

Rome fell, and dramatically so according to my fave historian Bryan Ward-Perkins, for all of the reasons Vicki’s piece enumerates, especially the loss of the tax base and the decline of quality in the army, with a loss of allegiance to the centre being part of it too. Once the solid mass production of goods and the trade of them was interrupted, things only got worse. The coinage quality and quantity declined at that time too. Populations up and fled from troublesome areas like Britain and Gaul and new populations and leaders moved in. The buried their valuables, hoping to come back for better times. Which didn’t eventuate, hence the coin and other hoards found ever since.

Which reminds me, Shatterzzz, living in a houso area be careful who you tell about depositing your casho in a backyard grave. These days there are metal detectors, so don’t put any coinage or grandma’s silver Christening cup in there! It’s also hard to disguise previously dug ground – ask any archaeologist. 🙂

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 27, 2023 2:57 pm

Barry Cable: AFL confirm disgraced WA footballer kicked out of Hall of Fame, Legend status revoked
The West Australian
Tue, 27 June 2023 12:10PM

The Australian Football Hall of Fame selection committee has opted to remove disgraced former player Barry Cable from its ranks in the wake of his sexual abuse ruling.

AFL Commission chair Richard Goyder, who is also chair of the Hall of Fame selection committee, revealed the decision was made at a meeting in Melbourne on Tuesday.

Cable was found by a WA judge to have repeatedly sexually assaulted a girl during his playing career, while there was compelling evidence he also abused other children.

That decision was handed down in a civil trial in the District Court of Western Australia by Judge Mark Herron on June 16.

“The finding of Judge Herron was incredibly serious and distressing and the thoughts of the AFL Commission are entirely with the victim, who bravely told her story and the other women who courageously came forward during the course of the trial to tell their stories,” Goyder said.

“We acknowledge the courage it has taken to reach an outcome through the courts in WA.

“Once the court ruling was handed down it was incumbent on the Commission and the game to immediately examine the facts of this matter and the horrific nature of these events required that Barry Cable can no longer be considered for any honours that the Hall of Fame or football can bestow. “At our last Commission meeting we moved to alter the charter for the Australian Football Hall of Fame, to include a new section that allows for the AFL Commission to remove any person for conduct which brings the AFL, the Hall of Fame inductee, any AFL Club or Australian football into disrepute.”

Cable was last week dumped from the WA Football Hall of Fame and had his life membership of the West Australian Football Commission torn up.

It came just hours after being axed from the WA Hall of Champions.

The 79-year-old had an illustrious playing career at Perth and East Perth in the WAFL and North Melbourne in the VFL before going on to coach in both competitions.

He was elevated to Legend state in the Australian Football Hall Of Fame more than a decade ago but has now been stripped of that prestigious honour.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 27, 2023 2:58 pm

It is funny that she served in the Israeli military, yet she seems so much more feminine than all those other Hollywood actresses who are cranky, preachy, angry, and entitled.

She got a star today. Deserved.

Gal Gadot becomes first Israeli to recive Hollywood’s Walk of Fame star (26 Jun)

Pogria
Pogria
June 27, 2023 2:59 pm

Wanting to post something good today. My area was having a six hour power outage today.
My you-beaut generator kicked in and had the lights on in under ten seconds! Absolutely stoked. The power came back on a couple on minutes ago.
Even happier because the plumber was here while the power went out and he was able to finish the job. Soooooooo happy.
Back to normal transmission. 😀

Ed Case
Ed Case
June 27, 2023 3:01 pm

Here’s a list of people who have transitioned:
And here’s one they missed:
Angela Morley.
Angela was previously know as Wally Stott, the guy who composed the music for The Goon Show.

Johnny Rotten
June 27, 2023 3:03 pm

The buried their valuables, hoping to come back for better times. Which didn’t eventuate, hence the coin and other hoards found ever since.

The (They) buried their treasure as they were being attacked. And never came back as they were killed. Hence the coin and treasure that keeps getting found by Farmers and Prospectors.

Dot
Dot
June 27, 2023 3:07 pm

Sparta never issued any coinage, and they rejected private property. They were the first commune that inspired Marx, the French, and many others.

He just makes it up as he goes along. After a while, you feel sorry for the poor bastard living out his James Bond fantasies.

His first howler I saw months ago was that “no one minted gold in Western Europe after Rome until the 11th century (in the German Kingdom of the HRE)”, yet the Merovingians (French, 6th & 7th century) certainly did mint gold coins; they used the common unit of the tremissis which was 1/3 of the mass/value of a solidus, both of which were still used by the Eastern Romans.

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 27, 2023 3:07 pm

These snippets from Groogsworld make me concerned for Mother.

Ed Case
Ed Case
June 27, 2023 3:10 pm

Well, I’m sure Janet Albrechtsen will be writing a column in The Australian
lamenting the trashing of Barry Cable’s presumption Of Innocence.

Any day now …

Arky
June 27, 2023 3:14 pm

Arky says:
June 27, 2023 at 3:12 pm
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It’s an indication that a faction on the right has lost the plot that it now actively advocates anti- Americanism and wishes to abandon our alliances. Absolute insanity. Those of you being lead astray by this stuff need to ask where it leads. If you want your children and grandchildren under Beijing, keep entertaining this horsesh*t. If you want to know what that actually looks like in practice, remember the economic leverage applied to our mines and primary industries over the last few years. Recall how the CCP flag was flown over Victorian police stations. Recall how the Confucius Institutes were used to keep students in line. Now imagine what the situation looks like without the US alliance

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
June 27, 2023 3:17 pm

Turbomongs assemble!
ABCcess hates you for noticing the WA heritage (SHUT IT DOWN, SHUT IT ALL DOWN NOW!!) laws are the template for the rest of Australia if the voice gets up.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-06-27/ben-wyatt-new-wa-aboriginal-heritage-act-voice-referendum/102526524

Former Labor Indigenous affairs minister Ben Wyatt, the key architect of WA’s new Aboriginal Cultural Heritage Act, has acknowledged there is legitimate confusion around the changes but says some people are also using it as a tool against the Voice referendum.
……
But Mr Wyatt, who is now on the board of mining giant Rio Tinto, argued the new act would make a difference, arguing it would have been harder for Rio Tinto to destroy the Juukan Gorge rock shelters in the Pilbara in 2020 under the new laws.

Paging the corruption commission, corruption commission to the courtesy phone please…

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
June 27, 2023 3:18 pm

Gal Gadot becomes first Israeli to recive Hollywood’s Walk of Fame star

I suppose Antifa will be coming out burning buildings and gluing their faces to the ground to protest Israel’s utter obstinacy in not losing the Palestinians and walking into the sea en masse.

Johnny Rotten
June 27, 2023 3:19 pm

These snippets from Groogsworld make me concerned for Mother.

Groog has no Muvver’.

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 27, 2023 3:20 pm

Still struggling with the rule of law I see Groogs. Keep trying little buddy.

Dot
Dot
June 27, 2023 3:20 pm

The ‘Leaders’ that did those heinous deeds were not Communists.

Yes.

They.

Were.

It is truly sad to see the hoary old “but true communism hasn’t been tried” chestnut on this August journal of record & renown.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
June 27, 2023 3:23 pm

In very disturbed times, paper money becomes meaningless. Jewellery and precious metals seem to have been the preferred value store of people fleeing even in recent times during the second world war. Drugs and sources of drugs may be also used in modern migrations, where the Mexican border comes to mind.

If I was serious about this I’d not bother with diamonds so much (although they may still hold some value), but I’d stash gold in small exchangeable amounts; rings are good. I’d maybe gather and bury a supply of copper and other useful metals to trade for seeds and for immediate food. In modern times certain drugs and a first aid box might be useful; morphine in particular, but other painkillers too. These do deteriorate over time though, as do plastics. Glass and ceramics might come back into their own if shortages were to prevail long term, as plastic doesn’t last. Roman Samian ware, a high quality mass produced pottery, was found mended and re-mended in archaeological sites of the sub-Roman period of the Dark Ages. In today’s context should decline be slow and unrelenting, a quality stainless steel milking bucket might become your household’s best friend. All sorts of stainless steel things could increase in value. And water storage tanks would be a boon. Bury guns, but keep them well-protected from damp; same for ammunition.

Fortunately I’m not serious about all of this (yet?), or I’d be living in some outer-Queensland acreage fuming about the police coming to get me.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
June 27, 2023 3:26 pm

Taylor Swift. All her music is garbage!

Arky
June 27, 2023 3:27 pm

dover0beach says:
June 27, 2023 at 3:15 pm
It isn’t surprising that defence policy is largely bi-partisan and revolves around our major and proved reliable ally.
Is there any situation where US foreign policy heads in a direction where you would think taking a different line would be prudent

..
Slight differences in tone or direction isn’t the thrust of your current attitude towards the alliance, is it?
Now, while we are quizzing each other, the Russian Communist party, the second largest party there, does it support the current invasion of Ukraine, oppose it, or state that it doesn’t go far and hard enough?
Once you figure out the correct answer to that, ask yourself how it is that you find yourself standing alongside the Russian communist party.

areff
areff
June 27, 2023 3:27 pm

Dunny brush: The school captain of the Vic SFL’s sheltered workshop is going to be thrashed in court; the ‘truth’ defence won’t hold up as there was no truth in the allegations against Deeming. His lawyer must be telling him as much, so this farce is likely to play out — and Pesutto’s leadership with it — when he apologises to Deeming. Either that, or a million bucks out the window on a defence as hopeless as Pesutto himself. After which he would get it in the neck anyway.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
June 27, 2023 3:27 pm

Everyone getting ready for the end of the world… again.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHsoJh–gCY

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
June 27, 2023 3:28 pm

In more good news, my niece produced another son yesterday after having endometriosis, not being able to get pregnant, having IVF, treatment cut short by Covid, then getting pregnant naturally.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
June 27, 2023 3:31 pm
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
June 27, 2023 3:31 pm

The (They) buried their treasure as they were being attacked. And never came back as they were killed. Hence the coin and treasure that keeps getting found by Farmers and Prospectors.

I wouldn’t say that didn’t happen as well, Johnny R. for it clearly did. But sources such as Gildas do tell of periods when people also fled in advance of repeated raiding and hoped that sometime, if the legions returned etc, things would settle down and they could return to reclaim their goods and their farms, as had happened in the past until Roman ‘Restitutors’ (as they were called) arrived.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
June 27, 2023 3:38 pm
Mother Lode
Mother Lode
June 27, 2023 3:38 pm

Everyone getting ready for the end of the world… again.

Any excuse for a piss up.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
June 27, 2023 3:39 pm

In more good news, my niece produced another son yesterday

Thankfully, GreyRanga, life goes on, through thick and thin as they used to say.

When family members produce another descendant, it’s always good news. My great-niece is pregnant again, I just heard, Big Sis’s grand-daughter. She has aboriginal and Maori heritage, but she seems more interested in her Huguenot heritage as she’s a committed Protestant Christian.

What is so often forgotten with heritage claimers is that we get genetic and cultural heritage from a range of genealogical forebears, not just one straight or predominant line.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
June 27, 2023 3:44 pm

Don’t worry Lizzie, they are coming to get you, they’re just doing the easy targets first.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
June 27, 2023 3:45 pm

Just heard on 4BC.

Host says he has heard that Government has been discussing with Greens and Aboriginal groups to change the name of Brisbane to Meanjin.

Also being mentioned are CBD street names like George and Edward.

More No votes being created and dare I say it animosity which did not exist before.

rosie
rosie
June 27, 2023 3:48 pm

Not just those being attacked.
I’ve seen Viking hoards in the British museum, the experts know they are the fruits of looting and pillaging because crucifixes etc have been hammered flat.
Raids don’t always go to plan.

Black Ball
Black Ball
June 27, 2023 3:50 pm

In Victoriastan news:

The Andrews government has disbanded the office of the Special Investigator tasked with probing the Lawyer X scandal.

In a damning review last week, special investigator Geoffrey Nettle sensationally flagged his resignation amid an ongoing feud with Victoria’s Director of Public Prosecutions, Kerri Judd, who Justice Nettle said had refused to approve the laying of any charges as a result of his work.

In June 2021, the Andrews government appointed Justice Nettle as special investigator to investigate whether charges should be laid against police and disgraced gangland barrister Nicola Gobbo over the scandal, which was first revealed by the Herald Sun.

The state opposition last week called on the government to give Lawyer X investigators the power to place their own charges.

Not doing so risked a situation where “no one pays the price” for the scandal, they argued.

Attorney-General Jaclyn Symes on Tuesday afternoon confirmed the office would close.

“Both the Special Investigator and Royal Commission Implementation Monitor, Sir David Carruthers, have recommended the winding up of the Office of the Special Investigator (OSI) – and we have accepted their advice,” she said.

“I would like to thank Geoffrey Nettle for his work and wish him well for the future.

“Prosecutorial decisions are a matter for the DPP and it is critical that the Office of the Public Prosecutions operates independently of government and statutory bodies like the OSI.”

A public dispute broke out last week between former Justice Nettle and Ms Judd.

The OSI submitted a report to Ms Symes detailing the charges he had briefed Ms Judd her for consideration.

But these were knocked back, prompting Justice Nettle to declare the chances of prosecution were “effectively nil”.

Ms Judd responded with her own statement defending her decisions.

Both sides were at odds over whether a key witness, believed to be Nicola Gobbo herself, would give evidence against Victoria Police without requesting immunity.

Ms Judd said she had no confidence Gobbo would agree to plead guilty and had major concerns about another “crucial witness” who was protected by a pseudonym.

Johnny rotten
June 27, 2023 3:51 pm

I am now going to change my name to Bonga Bonga and get a million dollar grant to research the history of this Continent. BTW, where do I line up?

Johnny rotten
June 27, 2023 3:55 pm

I would still like to see the Insurance Accident Report on said accident with the Andrews motor vehicle and cyclist. T boned by a push bike? Yeah Baby…….lol

Ed Case
Ed Case
June 27, 2023 3:56 pm

Line up at a Traffic Light, Joknny.
When you see the Red Signal, count to three and start walking.

Black Ball
Black Ball
June 27, 2023 4:00 pm

And in what should have been a slam dunk case:

Criminal charges against an alleged rapist have been dropped after a court ruled that sickening footage of the rape was illegally obtained by police.

The Greensborough man, who legally cannot be named, was last year committed to stand trial in the County Court on four counts of rape.

The prosecution was planning to rely on a horrific 30-minute video filmed by the man, which allegedly depicts him repeatedly raping his former partner while she “appeared at times to be unconscious”.

The woman later told police she had no recollection of the events captured in the video and had not consented to the sexual acts.

But the Court of Appeal in March ruled the video was inadmissable as evidence – because it was discovered by officers who rifled through the man’s home without the correct search warrant.

After considering the Court of Appeal’s ruling, the Office of Public Prosecutions dropped the rape charges in late May.

“A determination was made that, on the available evidence, there were not reasonable prospects of conviction,” an OPP spokesman said.

According to the ruling, police arrived at the man’s parents’ home on Christmas Day in 2020 believing a 17-year-old in state care had absconded to the address.

The search – permitted under a safe custody warrant – lasted only two minutes before the officers concluded the teen was not at the address.

The search – permitted under a safe custody warrant – lasted only two minutes before the officers concluded the teen was not at the address.

But instead of leaving the premises, they began to scour the home, with one officer rummaging through rooms, examining devices and searching a campervan for more than an hour.

It was this officer who accessed an iMac computer and found the footage of the alleged rapes.

The Greensborough man’s parents soon returned home and asked officers whether their son was “in trouble”, to which an officer replied: “Not at this point in time”.

But four months later in April, a search warrant was executed, resulting in the seizure of multiple items including the iMac.

The man was committed to stand trial, with a County Court judge ruling the video was admissible as evidence.

However, the man’s defence team appealed the decision, arguing the video should be thrown out of court.

Ruling in his favour, the Court of Appeal described the police officers as having “astonishing disregard” for both the law and the rights of the man during their search.

“But for the Christmas Day search, the April warrant would not have been obtained,” the judgment read.

“Accordingly, the items seized were obtained in consequence of an impropriety and a contravention of Australian law.

“Whilst the iMac video is critical to the prosecution of very serious charges, the impropriety and contravention of the law … is stark and deliberate.”

During an earlier hearing in the Magistrates’ Court, the officer who found the video testified that he never saw a copy of the safe custody warrant and “believed he had authority to search the premises” despite there being no signs of the teenager.

When asked about his search of the computer, he said he was “looking for information” in relation to the missing 17-year-old.

But Justices David Beach, Terence Forrest and John Forrest rejected his story.

“No part of the search after five minutes was directed to ascertain the whereabouts of (the 17-year-old) but rather it appears to have been a forensic exercise directed to eliciting evidence of general criminality,” they said.

“The (man’s) right to privacy was seriously violated over a lengthy period of time and with no apparent consideration given to the illegality of the search and the breach of that right.”

They added that given the length of time over which the search was conducted “the level of impropriety – in truth illegality – was considerably higher than mid-range”.

Ultimately, the Justices could not be satisfied the public interest in pursuing the charges prevailed over the public interest in “deterring police illegality and protecting individual rights”.

Victoria Police has confirmed the actions of three male officers – a senior sergeant, detective sergeant and senior constable – are now being reviewed.

“Professional Standards Command will oversee the investigation,” a spokeswoman said.

At a directions hearing in late May, prosecutors confirmed the rape charges – as well as charge of trafficking a drug of dependence and two charges of possession of a drug of dependence – had “fallen away”.

But a number of minor offences, which are not related to the rape, are expected to proceed in the Magistrates’ Court.

Dear oh dear. I would like to think the bloke is under a bit of surveillance.

rosie
rosie
June 27, 2023 4:01 pm

The preferred store of value is non perishable food.
I remember reading the children’s book ‘The Endless Steppe’ which is the true story of a Jewish family’s exile to Siberia in World War Two.
The peasants exiled along with them took food.
What little money and jewellery the family had was exchanged at a fraction of its value for food.
Still I’m not panicking about an imminent end of the world so wont be hoarding.
In any case I have an adequate supply of raspberry jam, pickles and tinned tuna to see my family through a couple of weeks already.

P
P
June 27, 2023 4:01 pm
Johnny rotten
June 27, 2023 4:06 pm

And we are still waiting for the ICCc report on Gladys. This year, next year, ever…….lol

duncanm
duncanm
June 27, 2023 4:08 pm

LawyerX/Gobbo… just how corrupt and rooted is Victoria?

Mind boggling.

… the former judge believed he had sufficient evidence to bring three separate prosecutions against Gobbo and police. The relevant charges would have included perjury, perverting the course of justice and misconduct in public office.

What cases was Judd working on circa 2016 when she was appointed Senior Crown Prosecutor ? Anything Gobbo-evidence related, per chance?

Johnny rotten
June 27, 2023 4:08 pm

ICAC I should have said………lol

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
June 27, 2023 4:11 pm

Host says he has heard that Government has been discussing with Greens and Aboriginal groups to change the name of Brisbane to Meanjin.

Also being mentioned are CBD street names like George and Edward.

I would say that any Aboriginal tribe spoke one dialect.

We are being asked to pick up all of them.

Another thing – the names given to cities and streets relate to people with a significant connection. You can look them up and learn a little something. Clarence St was named by Governor Macquarie after the Duke of Clarence who later became King William IV. A little bit of history.

What does Meanjin refer to? When I was younger and lived in The Shire I found out that Cronulla means place of pink sea shells. Might have meant something to the Aborigines, but they were nomads and it told them nothing more than what they could eat there. But could they have a meaningful word for the whole of Sydney? Why would they? It is made up of geographies, flora, and fauna that varies within it, and which would not naturally be delineated from the varied geographies, flora, and fauna beyond Sydney.

Woolooware means mud flats. It meant that to at most a few dozen people who wandered theri occasionally. Riveting stuff. There are multiple times more people than that who use that as their Amazon delivery address along The Golden Mile.

I really hope the people pushing The Voice keep talking.

Johnny rotten
June 27, 2023 4:13 pm

Lol. Head Case. I will be at the traffic lights watching you play in the rush hour traffic. Good road kill for those Ravens.

Arky
June 27, 2023 4:15 pm

You haven’t answered the question, Arky. As to your question, it’s silly given that you stand next to the Greens in Australia on Ukraine as well as most far left parties in Europe.

..
The Australian greens don’t exist as a function of Albanese allowing them to exist. Any major opposition party in Russia exists because Putin allows it to exist. Any agreement between Australian parties on foreign policy or defence indicates that they are may be acknowledging a common, Australian, interest in that policy. That is: it is because it might be that certain policies are in Australians interests whether they be greens, Labor or Liberal.
You know which Australian political party supports your line on Ukraine?

A major question that needs to be addressed in Western countries like Australia is why they support fascism in Ukraine. Before we can answer this question, there is an even more basic question: how prevalent is fascism in Ukraine? Not a few in the West – even among the broader “Left” – are keen to dismiss such realities, or at least suggest that it applies to merely a few marginal groups.

https://cpa.org.au/guardian/issue-1998/why-do-western-countries-like-australia-support-fascism/
Click the link to find out who else is parroting the Russian line you support.
Still think it’s “silly” to ask who stands alongside you in a particular view?

Gilas
Gilas
June 27, 2023 4:15 pm

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare says:
June 27, 2023 at 3:23 pm

In very disturbed times, paper money becomes meaningless. Jewellery and precious metals seem to have been the preferred value store of people fleeing even in recent times during the second world war.

Not if there is societal breakdown.
Once that happens, force will be the new currency and one’s life or personal safety becomes a tradeable commodity, it will always be thus.
One’s gold, jewellery will be worth one’s limb, eye or even life.. forget trading for it for food or transport.
The problem, the general delusion, is that people have forgotten what it’s like to live day-to-day, they believe that politeness, civility and situational niceties will carry the day.
History shows otherwise.
This complacency and self-serving delusion is where feminism and wokeness will have to deal with reality.

Muddy
Muddy
June 27, 2023 4:17 pm

Apologies if this has already been posted:

Millions Killed For Profit – Covid Was State Sponsored Genocide – Dr. David Martin To EU Parliament

Approx. 22 minutes.
I have no idea who this bloke is, and what his credentials are, but I’m at the 9 minute mark, and the background he has given is making my brain twitch.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
June 27, 2023 4:22 pm

The preferred store of value is non perishable food.

Yes, ideally. But food is less transportable than say gold or jewellery. And in some circumstances could have a lesser value for things such as travel costs and fares, in areas where food was available but displaced people had a real need to get across borders etc.

I never travel without a supply of protein bars tucked away in the zip sides of suitcases and sometimes a few that I purchase in the airport once through security to keep in my handbag. They have proven useful sustenance in closed-down airports in the early hours during transit in some furrin place, or a boon when arriving in a hotel room late and there is no room service and no mini-bar.

This is about as far as I get to prepping. 🙂

calli
calli
June 27, 2023 4:26 pm

On the, ahem, weighty issue of breakfast cereal mascots and eskimos, I tender this. It must have been short-lived in Australia, but somehow stuck in my brain.

Lots of other fun ones, like Thunderbirds characters.

Lysander
Lysander
June 27, 2023 4:29 pm

she’s a committed Protestant Christian.

Nobody’s perfect Lizzie. 😛

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
June 27, 2023 4:31 pm

One’s gold, jewellery will be worth one’s limb, eye or even life..

Well, worth keeping a bit of gold tucked into your jacket seams then, I think.

Other things tradable in times of societal breakdown are knowledge (medical in particular, but also technical or geographical etc), and for young men, their worth as warriors. For women, of course, the oldest tradable commodity has always been for use of the female body. When the goods are sadly often taken during wartime without agreed payments being made. But there are many tales of German families allowing their daughters to bring home American ‘boyfriends’ for an hour of privacy in the main bedroom in exchange for food to keep the family alive.

shatterzzz
June 27, 2023 4:31 pm

Which reminds me, Shatterzzz, living in a houso area be careful who you tell about depositing your casho in a backyard grave. These days there are metal detectors, so don’t put any coinage or grandma’s silver Christening cup in there! It’s also hard to disguise previously dug ground – ask any archaeologist. ?

My backyard is the size of a small park lotza flower patches .. easy to disguise .. and the thought of a local ‘houso” knowing what a metal detector is let alone having access to one is hilarious …
snippet of the target area …..
https://ibb.co/R298JZk

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
June 27, 2023 4:33 pm

I tender this. It must have been short-lived in Australia, but somehow stuck in my brain.

I actually remember Ricicles in Australia around 1970.

I liked them because my parents bought them while they would not buy Coco Pops or Fruit Loops or such.

They seemed only to be around very briefly, and I learned a valuable less as to the ephemeral nature of breakfast joy.

shatterzzz
June 27, 2023 4:34 pm

Picked up a copy of .. COLDITZ .. by Ben Macintyre in the local Kmart clearancce bin this arvo for $2 ..
https://www.penguin.com.au/books/colditz-9780241986974

Gilas
Gilas
June 27, 2023 4:39 pm

shatterzzz says:
June 27, 2023 at 4:31 pm

My backyard is the size of a small park lotza flower patches

You are tempting fate, sir.
Where there’s a will..
Just hope that no suitably-motivated housos neighbours of yours read the Cat.

Lysander
Lysander
June 27, 2023 4:40 pm

Feds give the OK for NYC congestion pricing! Cars to pay $34 , vans $65 and large trucks $82 to enter Manhattan…

https://www.newsday.com/news/new-york/congestion-pricing-approval-manhattan-knyuk1f8

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 27, 2023 4:42 pm

Former Labor Indigenous affairs minister Ben Wyatt, the key architect of WA’s new Aboriginal Cultural Heritage Act, has acknowledged there is legitimate confusion around the changes but says some people are also using it as a tool against the Voice referendum.

Council rates have risen nearly 10% this year already, they’ll be rising to cover the costs of implementing the Aboriginal Heritage Act, and we are waiting for the Voice referendum with a baseball bat…

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
June 27, 2023 4:42 pm

lol Shatterzzz. What a loverly backyard. You are one of the lucky ones, who got a house and land allocation, which is nice for you in your older age (though I don’t see your vege patch, but who am I to talk? Ours are all gone to seed and weeds).

First off, at your place I’d be heading with my shovel underneath that tyre with the froggie leaping from it. It leaps out, as it were, lol. If the burglars are using metal-detectors as Sancho said then the utility of these will not be lost on certain Housos, who have rellies and friends in that trade. Just don’t put your stored notes in a tin or any sort metal, which rules out a lot of storage methods. Maybe try the old-fashioned oilskin paper wrap, surrounded by bitumen? Plastic is too prone to disintegration.

Lysander
Lysander
June 27, 2023 4:44 pm

Exclusive: CNN obtains the tape of Trump’s 2021 conversation about classified documents

Well…!!! They’ve “got him” now!!! /sarc

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
June 27, 2023 4:47 pm

Both sides were at odds over whether a key witness, believed to be Nicola Gobbo herself, would give evidence against Victoria Police without requesting immunity.

So the person they arent going to charge with anything cant be granted immunity because the evidence she would give would open her up to charges?
And everyone that would face charges if she gave evidence wont face charges because she wont be granted immunity?
Is that a fair summary?

Its a reverse Kafka with a triple pike.

DDP drawn from life, yesterday.

Johnny Rotten
June 27, 2023 4:48 pm

You haven’t answered the question, Arky. As to your question, it’s silly given that you stand next to the Greens in Australia on Ukraine as well as most far left parties in Europe.

The UKR have as much chance of winning this War as Head Case has with his/her/whatever donkey winning the Melburn Cup in Sictoria. The UKR are running out of people. They are ending up as blood and bone. FFS.

shatterzzz
June 27, 2023 4:49 pm

Just hope that no suitably-motivated housos neighbours of yours read the Cat.

Very unlikely unless the Cat translates into various SE Asian languages and has the CentreLink logo in the masthead …… besides I haven’t spoken to a “neighbour” in 20 years .. language difficulties .. LOL!

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
June 27, 2023 4:50 pm

Exclusive: CNN obtains the tape of Trump’s 2021 conversation about classified documents

Well…!!! They’ve “got him” now!!! /sarc

It is very reassuring. The guy is definitely going to be cleared.

Johnny Rotten
June 27, 2023 4:54 pm

Lysandersays:
June 27, 2023 at 4:40 pm
Feds give the OK for NYC congestion pricing! Cars to pay $34 , vans $65 and large trucks $82 to enter Manhattan…

https://www.newsday.com/news/new-york/congestion-pricing-approval-manhattan-knyuk1f8

So what? London and Singapore have had this for years.

Lysander
Lysander
June 27, 2023 5:00 pm

Just cos other cities have had it for years JR don’t make it right!!

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
June 27, 2023 5:01 pm

One’s gold, jewellery will be worth one’s limb, eye or even life..

Well, worth keeping a bit of gold tucked into your jacket seams then, I think.

Unless, Gilas, I misread you, and you think that sheer force will mean an attack will rob you of your treasures, during which you may be physically injured, so you will be better off without them.

Hard to say. Depends on circumstances I guess. Hidden wealth is always a bargaining chip.

But fear of disclosure is often why people concealed the treasures they took with them, sewn into clothing, sadly for Nazi concentration camp victims to be found in their clothing by conscripted slave workers after the owners of it were killed. Or, at Yekaterinburg, sewn into the corsets of princesses and acting as shields from bullets, making their demise more extended.

shatterzzz
June 27, 2023 5:01 pm

First off, at your place I’d be heading with my shovel underneath that tyre with the froggie leaping from it. It leaps out, as it were, lol.

Good luck! .. there are about 40 tyres with plants and at least 150 ornaments dotted around as well as several large garden beds & dozens of large pots .. that pix covers about 1/10th of the garden .. I do have a 6 minute video of the whole place on my hard drive but no idea how to post it .. originally made for family in England using FaceBook but I don’t use FB anymore ..
I gave up on vegetables years ago .. cos when they are in season most are 50cents to a dollar a kilo in the fruitshop at the same time .. remember the reason they get dearer is cos they are coming from elsewhere cos out of season in Sydney …….

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 27, 2023 5:02 pm

Unions will campaign for an Indigenous voice to parliament online and in workplaces
By rosie lewis
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Trade unions – including the union of Indigenous land rights activist Eddie Mabo – are vowing to mobilise their members and actively campaign for a voice to parliament across social media, workplaces, universities and neighbourhoods, amid falling support for the advisory body.

The Rail, Tram and Bus Union, the Electrical Trades Union, the Shop, Distributive and Allied Employees Association and the Transport Workers Union told The Australian they were invested in the campaign and members were being encouraged to engage and advocate during the referendum.

As the Yes camp faces increasing calls from voice supporters to ramp up their operations, National Union of Students president Bailey Riley said student organisations were concerned by polling showing the No vote was ahead and lashed Labor for “dropping the ball” on the reform.
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The latest Newspoll, conducted exclusively for The Australian, revealed the referendum would fail if a vote was held next weekend.

“We think the Yes campaign has not done its duty yet and not really kicked off. We think the Labor Party has dropped the ball at the moment. They want this referendum but they don’t seem to be out there supporting it,” Ms Riley said.

“Student organisations are concerned about the polling as well and are thinking ‘why has this not started yet?’ We were going to wait for the Yes campaign to lead the way but at this point in time we’re going to start ourselves and start the campaign from the student perspective.”

The NUS, which represents around one million domestic tertiary education students, is planning weekly stalls run by every student union around the country from the start of semester two in late July or early August and then multiple stalls per week in the six weeks leading up to polling day.

The referendum will be held between October and December, with the most likely date in mid-October.

RTBU national secretary Mark Diamond, representing around 35,000 workers, said the union was talking to members though internal publications and social media, but the movement more broadly had a “huge network” willing to advocate for the voice.

Mr Mabo was a railway workers union member and delegate in Queensland.

“The RTBU, as the union of Eddie Mabo, is proud of its role in advocating for the rights of Indigenous peoples. Our national executive has resolved to support the voice, and we intend to play an active role in the referendum campaign,” Mr Diamond said.

“We are encouraging our members to have conversations with their friends, families and colleagues. For example, we have an article on the referendum written by one of our First Nations members that will feature prominently in the next edition of national member magazine.”

Lysander
Lysander
June 27, 2023 5:06 pm

that pix covers about 1/10th of the garden ..

So, no more “public works” on your property for you Shatterz under the new ACHA Act?

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
June 27, 2023 5:10 pm

Yep. Vegetables from the shop, especially when in season, are the way to go.
Bugger trying to grow them yourself. My Big Sis and her greenie husband have an extensive vegie plot and chicken run in their suburban backyard, which is now derelict and gone to seed badly as they are unable to maintain it any more. This ‘grow your own’ thing is a bit of a fad anyway.

That said, I do enjoy having a small and growing orchard of fruit trees which are starting to deliver fruit. I have home-grown lemon now in my evening G & T. Very civilised, I think.

Oh damn. Forgot. I did mean to take a bucket of oranges from one of their two orange trees on Sunday. Our orange tree has died. And a pumpkin or two for soup, for they are growing wild at their place now.

C.L.
C.L.
June 27, 2023 5:11 pm

Yes. Because the USA is our major ally. One that helped us fight off the Japanese in WW2 and which kept the communist bloc from expanding southwards toward us during the Cold War. It isn’t surprising that defence policy is largely bi-partisan and revolves around our major and proved reliable ally. The one which every two years proves it’s usefulness to us by practising saving our arses with an exercise landing marines on our shores (Talisman- Sabre).

The Chinamen are coming (in a massive fleet) and only America can save us.
Somebody’s always coming to get us.

…ask yourself how it is that you find yourself standing alongside the Russian communist party.

How it is that you find yourself standing alongside the ‘nation’ whose Nazism was considered over the top by the Waffen-SS?

  1. Day 3. Cleetus and crew. It’s bloody great seeing old man Sam tag along. He got involved with the crew…

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