Open Thread – Mon 10 July 2023


The Colosseum in Rome, Fyodor Matveyev ,1816

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Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
July 11, 2023 2:27 pm

Medvedev threatens to attack nuclear facilities in Ukraine and Europe, following unconfirmed reports of attempted missile strike on Russian nuclear plant

For over a year he’s been threatening to nuke everything in the EU and US that’s larger than a chook pen. Memo to Mr Medvedev: Jack D. Ripper was supposed to be a fictional character not a mentor.

Ed Case
Ed Case
July 11, 2023 2:28 pm

What you don’t have any experience of is industrial scale materials processing. Separating an aluminium frame from ten thousand dead solar panels is easy, if you have experience with process design, materials and metallurgy.

Bruce:

#1. The frame is only worth $2.50 as scrap.
#2. Manufacturing another one in China will cost pennies.
#3. Municipal Tips accept Solar Panels as General Waste and it goes into landfill.

I’m sure several other Cats who work in the industry could also, probably even better than me.
The mind boggles, but, yeah, I’m interested to hear these ‘Cats in the Industry’
and their Appeals to Authority.

Let’s recap:
#1. Not worth trying to reclaim as scrap
#2. Not recyclable
#3. Rated as General Waste by Municipal Tips.

Vicki
Vicki
July 11, 2023 2:28 pm

They rely on your sense of order and politesse to permit them to aggressively intrude upon you in the absolute belief that their upper class demeanor and the public situation of their aggression will force you to be submissive.
They are in effect arrogant rich bitches giving instructions to we lesser mortals.

This sounds like an interaction we have just had over the phone with the representatives of an insurance company!

Am I imagining it, or are top corporations becoming intolerably arrogant?

Gilas
Gilas
July 11, 2023 2:32 pm

SIPCA Part 2

For those interested, all sessions were recorded and are available on YT.

The contestants’ technical proficiency has clearly improved since past editions.
Apart from the appalling serial, whole-tone garbage produced by some European and Australian composers since the early 20th C, where one wouldn’t know if the music score was followed correctly, I couldn’t hear a single wrong note played by the contestants during the whole Preliminary Phase.
Patrons who wanted to see memory lapses, awkward pauses, wrong notes (also known as temporary original improvisations), and sudden walk-offs have so far been disappointed.
Maybe they’ll have better luck during the Semi Finals, starting tomorrow.

Thankfully, due to the new, less restrictive rules, the repertoire was more diverse than in the past and, for those interested, the above videos will show its breadth, as well as some seriously impressive keyboard acrobatics.

Russian, Chinese and Japanese pianists form the bulk of the contestants this time around. The proportion of Asians has increased significantly since I first attended SIPCA in 2000. They have basically replaced the European and USA contingents of the past.
They say Asians play mechanically, rather han emotionally. This is not so apparent these days, although some clearly pile-on the affectations for the cameras. Fortunately for them, the Jury is some 50 metres away, at the back of the Verbrugghen Hall, usually looking at computer screens, following the musical score while listening, rather than the contestants’ over-acting on stage.

The management of SIPCA has changed since 2012. It was previously under the authoritarian command of Warren Thompson, an unpleasant old coot with dubious “habits” at his teaching school.
In deference to Dover, details are best left to a Google search back to the early 2000s.. The Guardian is your friend here.
The new management structure is still opaque. Piers Lane, the Artistic Director since 2016, has done an excellent job of loosening the quirks and rigidities imposed by Thompson since the first Comp in 1977, however, the senior management hierarchy has a competence deficit and has botched the marketing this time around.
Few people knew that the Comp was changing from a 4 to a 3-year cycle (The last, delayed, online Comp due to COVID, was in 2021).
Also, the ABCess is now no longer involved with publicity, or indeed the broadcast and the expert commentary. Further enquiries are required here..

The result is a crowd attendance of less than 50% of available capacity. During the first Round, excellent seats were still available on the day, this was never the case in the past.

Bluey
Bluey
July 11, 2023 2:33 pm

Roger
Jul 11, 2023 12:49 PM
Beginning to detect a theme here…

Fresh from reports of VIC building inspectors conducting “virtual” inspections, The Age now reports that VIC plumbing inspectors are signing off on roof work after viewing it from the ground

Knew someone who did quite a bit of work on CBD buildings, who reckoned most of the structural welds were inspected the same way.

Lysander
Lysander
July 11, 2023 2:33 pm

I find it “funny” that the Left (like Burney) are decrying the era of the “post-truth” world in which we live.

If I recall correctly, it was the Left who promoted postmodernism through all of our institutions…and it is still the Left promoting “your own truth” (despite physical, biological facts etc..)…

Vicki
Vicki
July 11, 2023 2:39 pm

The Blob begins to quiver

James Howard Kunstler
Clusterf@ck Nation
Mon, 10 Jul

Old Ozzie – once again, thank you for the terrific articles you find and repost here. Much obliged.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
July 11, 2023 2:40 pm

“Archaeology is the search for Facts.
Facts, not Truth. If it’s Truth you’re searching for, the Philosophy class is down the hall.”
-Dr Henry Jones (Jr)

Miltonf
Miltonf
July 11, 2023 2:44 pm

I second that Vicki. Also thanks to BB.

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
July 11, 2023 3:05 pm

Open Borders, Chaos & Violence

“I have traded head-to-head with Soros. Many believe that he was also behind getting me imprisoned after his attempt to trade against the Japanese yen in 1999. I defeated and warned all my clients at our March 1999 Tokyo conference how to defeat Soros and the other bankers who were trying to exploit the Japanese for their fiscal year-end on March 31st that year. I was the one who called in when he was targeting the British pound and confirmed that the pound was overvalued and it would crack which made him all his money.

While I cost Soros perhaps $1 billion in Japan, it was the Russian trade I refused to join when asked to invest $10 billion into Hermitage Capital Management. I warned them that Russia would collapse. I warned my clients at our June 1998 conference in London when the London Financial Times published that forecast on the front page of the second section. Soros lost $2 billion on that one. For years, all I have heard is how Soros and the other bankers & hedge fund guys wanted my company shut down.

When you are in the Financial Industry, your phones are recorded to make certain if you said buy, it would not a sell. I had everything on tape and it would have been enough to send a lot of people to prison for a long time and end this crisis that we are now facing where they are using the money to destroy Western Civilization. The government then claimed it was all destroyed in World Trade Center building 7 that every expert says was a controlled demolition. They claimed all my evidence was destroyed in WTC7.

Did they take down that building to save all the firms on Wall Street that were engaged in market manipulation and targeting other countries’ currencies? There were tapes even bragging about paying bribes to Russian officials to recall all the platinum for inventory. Surely, had the truth surfaced, it would have been a serious international crisis and we would not be in the position we are today with open borders everywhere.

Soros is famous for saying: “The main obstacle to a stable and just world order is the United States.” If that is not enough for Congress to summon him to uncover this cabal, then how about: “The main enemy of the open society, I believe, is no longer the communist but the capitalist threat.”

George Soros is perhaps one of the three greatest destroyers of Western Civilization with Klaus Schwab and Bill Gates. Soros has long pointed to academic philosophy as his source of inspiration rather than just personal philosophy. George Soros’s philosophy is organized around the idea of the “Open Society,” a term developed and popularized by Karl Popper (1902-1994), a political philosopher of some influence. Effectively, it stands for a one-world government.

Popper was an academic with no actual real-world investigation like Adam Smith – just theory. He was a self-professed critical rationalist, a dedicated opponent of clearly all forms of skepticism, conventionalism, and relativism. He was a committed advocate and staunch defender of the “Open Society”. According to Popper, open societies guarantee and protect rational exchange, while closed societies force people to submit to authority, whether that authority is religious, political, or economic.

Since 1987, George Soros has published 14 books. He has made it very clear that he leans left and his defining intellectual principle is internationalism. Soros’ political goal is to create a political world not defined by national states, but by a global community whose constituents understand that everyone shares an interest in freedom, equality, and prosperity. In his opinion, the creation of such a global open society is the only way to ensure that humanity overcomes the existential challenges of climate change and nuclear proliferation.”

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/world-news/police-state/open-borders-chaos-violence/?utm_source=Newsletter&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=RSS

Indolent
Indolent
July 11, 2023 3:08 pm

It’s a 100% certainly that he was a federal provocateur and yet he dares do this. Which judge have they suborned?

January 6 Figure Ray Epps Sues Fox News for Defamation for Claiming He Was a Federal Provocateur

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
July 11, 2023 3:10 pm

Ed – Reiterating fake arguments over and over will not make them true.

Dead solar panels are toxic waste by all objective criteria, since they contain significant amounts of lead and cadmium. But if government wants to be hypocritical I can’t stop them.

If I could be bothered I suspect I could start a profitable company meshing gold extraction with solar panel “recycling” (at least the silver and structural metals. Maybe some WA mining minnows reading this could take up the baton? Bowen would probably give them a grant to do it.

Boambee John
Boambee John
July 11, 2023 3:10 pm

Lysander

If I recall correctly, it was the Left who promoted postmodernism through all of our institutions…and it is still the Left promoting “your own truth” (despite physical, biological facts etc..)…

Turd Case mindlessly repeating leftard talking points about solar cells being chemically inert is further proof (if any were needed) that he is just a leftard shill. It’s his “own truth”.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
July 11, 2023 3:11 pm

Patrick’s apartment block has defects. He has nightmares of being buried beneath rubble

“It could potentially be on the same level as Mascot Towers,” said Quintal, 29, comparing their troubled complex, Vicinity at Canterbury, to the sinking building that massive structural defects have rendered unliveable since 2019. “The number that’s been thrown around to repair our building is around $50 million.

It has now been one year and nine months since a structural engineer hired by the owners warned that the tower, part of the 276-unit complex, was at risk of collapse, followed by emergency propping put into place and a series of building work rectification orders slapped on by the NSW building commissioner. The latest was on July 7 this year.

A hearing is due to take place at the Land and Environment Court on July 27 and 28 for NSW Fair Trading to enforce the orders against developer Toplace. There’s also a hearing at the NSW Civil and Administrative Tribunal on July 19 to extend the period of compulsory strata management.

But with the owner and founding director of Toplace, Jean Nassif, wanted in relation to a fraud investigation and being hunted by police overseas, the apartment owners are despairing of their homes ever being fixed.

Meanwhile

Sydney developer Jean Nassif’s Toplace in administration

Reporter – Larry Schlesinger

Administrators have been appointed to the building arm of beleaguered Sydney developer Jean Nassif’s Toplace Group in a collapse that could hit hundreds of apartment buyers and contractors.

Antony Resnick and Suelen McCallum of DVT Group were appointed voluntary administrators of Toplace Pty Ltd on July 7 by lawyers acting for Mr Nassif, who remains overseas and is facing an arrest warrant over fraud allegations.

The appointment follows Toplace losing its building licence and NSW Fair Trading ordering the company to fix serious defects in the Vicinity apartment complex in Canterbury, in Sydney’s south-west, which regulators warn is at risk of collapse.

In June, NSW Police’s Organised Crime Squad issued an arrest warrant for 55-year-old Mr Nassif over allegations of fraud involving a Sydney apartment project developed by Toplace. Mr Nassif’s daughter Ashlyn has been already charged with falsifying documents relating to the pre-sale of apartments at the development in Castle Hill, in Sydney’s north-west.

The appointment of administrators comes as Mr Nassif offloads a prime portfolio of development sites that could reap as much as $250 million, and follows insolvency firm KordaMentha being appointed receivers over a number of Toplace assets on behalf of secured creditors.

Mr Resnick told The Australian Financial Review his team was “still filtering through a ton of information” and it was too early to speculate how much money was owed to creditors or the number of buyers and contractors impacted by the collapse of Toplace.

“There are a number [of projects] at varying stages, and lots of land holdings,” he said.

“Whether these are completed by administrators or sold off has yet to be decided.”

Alongside a number of secured creditors, there are also expected to be many unsecured creditors including about 40 employees of the company (classed as priority unsecured creditors) whose roles are being reviewed.

“The amount owed to creditors could be significant or substantial. We just don’t know yet,” Mr Resnick said.

A first meeting of creditors is expected to be held next week.

According to its website, since being founded by Mr Nassif in 1992, Toplace has “delivered approximately 30,000 residential homes, shopping centres and commercial suites all located in Sydney”.

“The Toplace Group has a number of projects, a multibillion-dollar development pipeline and a team of thousands of property and construction trades, suppliers and consultants,” it said.

In 2019, Mr Nassif famously Instagrammed the gift of a $480,000 Lamborghini to his wife captioned with the phrase: “You like?”

In 2021, he sold a Sydney industrial development site to Goodman Group for $140 million, realising a $65 million profit.

This year, he sold a 7000 square metre apartment site in Zetland for $72 million to build-to-rent specialist Greystar and another site in Mascot to Goodman Group, which had come to market with expectations of $100 million.

Mr Resnick stressed that DVT Group had at this stage only been appointed administrator over the building arm of Toplace, not the other companies in the group.

He said he had not spoken with Mr Nassif, who has been overseas since December.

“The company director’s solicitors [ERA Law] made the recommendation that we be appointed. I have not met Jean Nassif personally. Everything has been done through the solicitors.”

In a statement, Toplace management said that after seeking legal and financial advice, the appointment of voluntary administrators was “the best outcome for our stakeholders”.

“Senior management is working closely with the VAs to achieve the best possible outcome for its stakeholders, especially the creditors and our consumers. We anticipate that through this process in time that all creditors’ debts will be met in full.”

Toplace management, which includes Ashlyn Nassif (according to the statement) blamed the collapse on “operational difficulties like many companies in the construction industry”.

“Contrary to media commentary no bank has ever lost any money financing Toplace group projects. Toplace Group has an extensive property portfolio which will be realised throughout this process to satisfy the obligations to creditors.

“Toplace is confident that with control being under the expertise of the VAs it will be in the best shape to navigate through these challenging times,” the statement concluded.

In 2020, Mr Nassif was revealed as Mr X, the developer who delivered apartments for buyers caught up in the collapse of William O’Dwyer’s Ralan Group.

Indolent
Indolent
July 11, 2023 3:13 pm

I wonder why. This article from Variety doesn’t even touch on the real reasons. It’s all “big budget” and reduced overseas sales.

Disney’s Harsh New Reality: Costly Film Flops, Creative Struggles and a Shrinking Global Box Office

Lysander
Lysander
July 11, 2023 3:16 pm
johanna
johanna
July 11, 2023 3:16 pm

Looks like both here and in the US the alliance between unions and leftist parties is fracturing. Some unions have realised that Net Zero is not their friend:

The United Auto Workers (UAW) is going after President Joe Biden’s so-called “green energy” agenda for its wage-cutting outcomes while showering billions in American taxpayer money on the three largest automakers in the nation: Ford, General Motors (GM), and Stellantis.

As part of Biden’s Inflation Reduction Act, passed last year, automakers are set to enjoy a massive windfall via tax credits for electric vehicles (EVs) made in the United States, Canada, and Mexico.

UAW President Shawn Fain, as well as the union’s members in Lordstown, Ohio, are sounding the alarm on severe cuts to auto workers’ wages as a result of the Biden administration’s push to steer automakers towards EVs, enticing them with federal subsidies.

“There have been clear winners and losers and the same people who’ve always won, the corporate elite and the billionaire class, seem to think they can keep calling the shots,” Fain said in a video produced by the UAW:

Of course, non-industrial unions like teachers and white collar workers are (superficially) unaffected. When energy prices rise, they will just demand more money. Their awakening is still down the track – assuming that they actually care about their members, which is debatable.

But industrial unions have seen the writing on the wall.

Kneel
Kneel
July 11, 2023 3:20 pm

“How do you “politely walk away”?”

By NOT saying “Phuck you, arsehole” first 🙂

Boambee John
Boambee John
July 11, 2023 3:22 pm

Turd Case

#1. The frame is only worth $2.50 as scrap.
#2. Manufacturing another one in China will cost pennies.

How much aluminium is there in the frame compared, say, with an aluminium drink can? Might it exceed 25 times as much? Compared to10 cents per can, recycling solar panel frames might not be a bad business.

Or perhaps the whole drink container “recycling” system is just another government scam? And they are also lying about lead and cadmium being “inert”? And are you stupid enough to believe them about both?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
July 11, 2023 3:25 pm

It’s a 100% certainly that he was a federal provocateur and yet he dares do this. Which judge have they suborned?

They’ll just say he wasn’t a provocateur and keep saying it over and over.

DOJ Announces Slew Of Charges Against Gal Luft, ‘Missing Witness’ Of Alleged Biden Corruption (10 Jul)

U.S. Attorney announces charges against co-director of think tank for acting as an unregistered foreign agent, trafficking in arms, violating U.S. sanctions against Iran, and making false statements to federal agents

So you can be indicted for making true statements to federal agents if they say they’re false. Therefore Epps can sue Fox for Fox’s true statements so long as the FBI, who Mr Epps appears to work for, denies they’re true.

It was interesting that the the Capitol Police Chief fessed to Tucker that the J6 crowd was chock full of Feds, since we Cats knew this about 2 days after the event. I haven’t been keeping track but it’s getting close to three hundred glowies in total that I’ve seen reported. Including Mr Epps.

Indolent
Indolent
July 11, 2023 3:26 pm
Vicki
Vicki
July 11, 2023 3:31 pm

BRS has filed an appeal against the judgment in the defamation case. $25 million so far, so Kerry must still be financing it, or the legal team doing it gratis (very unlikely!).

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
July 11, 2023 3:31 pm

If I could be bothered I suspect I could start a profitable company meshing gold extraction with solar panel “recycling” (at least the silver and structural metals. Maybe some WA mining minnows reading this could take up the baton? Bowen would probably give them a grant to do it.

If you mean “subsidy miners” then its already underway.
https://www.wasolarrecycling.com.au/

https://www.canstarblue.com.au/solar/recycle-solar-panels/

One way to dispose of old solar panels is to pay for them to be taken via e-waste. Most areas of Australia have an e-waste program– except Victoria who banned e-waste disposal in 2019 – wherein which, the local waste disposal facility will dispose of the solar panel to the e-waste section of the tip for an additional cost. E-waste, however, is slowly being discouraged in Australia, as toxic chemicals such as lead, mercury and arsenic found in batteries and electrical plugs are responsible for 70 per cent of the toxic chemicals found in landfills, according to The Clean Energy Council.

Oh no, ed the counterfactual is wrong, again, as always…

bons
bons
July 11, 2023 3:40 pm

Visiting my wife in hospital this afternoon we discussed our Balmain pals. A relationship that is fraying a little.
Everyone of them will vote ‘yes’. None of them could enunciate reasons, or in reality be bothered to justify what is self evident. They are mindless RN slaves.
But, they are quick to agressively poo poo any comment opposing the Voice. No arguments, just contemptuous dismissal.
They all feel safe in their multi million dollar shacks in the Balmain slum.
I can imagine the laptops being hauled out and furious belated research commencing when ‘Coke Bottle’ and the local council bolsheviks come knocking for their first shakedown payment.
It is a harsh view, but their attitude is so outrageous I secretly hope they do get taken down.

Indolent
Indolent
July 11, 2023 3:42 pm
Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
July 11, 2023 3:42 pm

Some unions have realised that Net Zero is not their friend

Johanna – The UAW are all in on EVs for the Planet, they have to be it’s the holy doctrine. Their complaint is that EVs need fewer wukkas to assemble them. I suspect they also quietly realize that no US car company can make EVs in the US and survive, and therefore union wukkas will find themselves out of wuk.

No One In The U.S. Really Wants To Buy Electric Vehicles (Jalopnik, 11 Jul)

How odd that they don’t want to buy expensive cars with short lifetimes and poor range. At least in the US electricity is inexpensive. Here the cost of electricity is so high that petrol is probably cheaper for the same distance. It was fun that Jane Caro chose to drive a Chinese EV in her great trek last week.

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
July 11, 2023 3:42 pm

Sometimes if you want to see a change for the better, you have to take things into your own hands.

– Clint Eastwood

Lysander
Lysander
July 11, 2023 3:43 pm

Lol FM and Bruce!!!
Nut Case’s (wrong) arguments have been completely destroyed… 😛

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
July 11, 2023 3:45 pm

Caught a smidgen of ABCcess on the way home for lunch.

Mercy hospital was in line for a demonism (the opposite of an excorcism?).
The case they had was a chick who had been refused an abortion there who instead had to go elsewhere, but her gripe was she had a dead bub surgically removed at Mercy some time before, “And its the same procedure – it even has the same medicare number”…

So live bub in the belly = dead bub in the belly to their ABCcess.

You have to nearly admire their total, all consuming commitment to attacking any perceived enemy of the left 24/7.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
July 11, 2023 3:54 pm

The Bee

Hollywood Confused By New Movie That Depicts Child Sex Trafficking As Bad

They were uncharacteristically slow with this one, but it’s still great Bee:

Satan Miraculously Turns Water Into Bud Light ( Jul, via Instapundit)

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
July 11, 2023 3:54 pm

Somebody has to get the incoming rakes in the face when munster isn’t around. Well he’s always round, I’m lead to believe more round than tall.

Dot
Dot
July 11, 2023 4:05 pm

They want people to start arguing with them so they can trot out their proof texts, whatever religion they’re trying to convert you to.

Just point out the Ave Maria for example is biblically based.

Lysander
Lysander
July 11, 2023 4:09 pm

I’m desperately praying for a “No” campaigner to knock on my door so I can lead them down the agreeable path of truth and treaty and how bad I’ve been as a coloniser and that, yes, we should have an indigenous tax…

I’m hoping they agree, cos then I’ll have them on my Ring video doorbell. 😛

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 11, 2023 4:09 pm

Ben Roberts-Smith launches appeal
Stephen Rice
Stephen Rice

Ben Roberts-Smith has lodged an appeal in his defamation action against Nine newspapers after Federal Court justice Anthony Besanko last month ruled he had committed war crimes in Afghanistan.

Justice Besanko found Mr Roberts-Smith had murdered unarmed detainees, including a farmer kicked off a cliff in the village of Darwan and a one-legged man dragged from a tunnel at the compound known as Whiskey 108.

Justice Besanko found the allegations against the former SAS soldier were substantially true.

Mr Roberts-Smith’s lawyers filed the appeal in the Federal Court on Tuesday afternoon but details of the application were not immediately available.

Mr Roberts-Smith is understood to have hired top silk Bret Walker SC to oversee the appeal.

The appeal comes after Justice Besanko ruled last week that billionaire media mogul Kerry Stokes’s private company, Australian Capital Equity, and the Seven Network must produce correspondence between the companies and their lawyers, as well as records of attendance by the lawyers at the trial.

Mr Stokes is fighting an application by the newspapers for ACE and his majority-owned Seven Network to pay a share of the costs in the failed defamation action.

Any truth in the rumour that a certain Justice was promised a safe labor seat, in exchange for the “correct” verdict?

Cassie of Sydney
July 11, 2023 4:10 pm

“It is a harsh view, but their attitude is so outrageous I secretly hope they do get taken down.”

No, it isn’t harsh, and it’s one I share it about my Wentworth neighbours.

Lysander
Lysander
July 11, 2023 4:21 pm

FakeNews?

https://www.news.com.au/national/wagner-sought-nuclear-backpacks-ukraine-intelligence-chief/video/4d1252bb911ac315de21e0f282d9753b

Ukraine’s head of military intelligence, Kyrylo Budanov, tells Reuters in an exclusive interview that Wagner fighters reached a Russian nuclear base called Voronezh-45 during their mutiny and that their intention was to acquire small Soviet-era nuclear devices in order to “raise the stakes.”

Vicki
Vicki
July 11, 2023 4:22 pm

Re No campaigners knocking on doors:

No campaigners have been putting pamphlets in letterboxes in farms in our valley. One irate farmer had posted a magnificent rant against this on Facebook & has already attracted around 70 responses in agreement. He reckons if this is indicative of the regional vote – it is “dead in the water”.

johanna
johanna
July 11, 2023 4:22 pm

Bruce of Newcastle
Jul 11, 2023 3:42 PM

Some unions have realised that Net Zero is not their friend

Johanna – The UAW are all in on EVs for the Planet, they have to be it’s the holy doctrine. Their complaint is that EVs need fewer wukkas to assemble them. I suspect they also quietly realize that no US car company can make EVs in the US and survive, and therefore union wukkas will find themselves out of wuk.

Oh, I don’t imagine for a second that their motives are anything but the usual ones – money and power.

The point is, some of the traditional sources of funds and support both for the Dimmocrats and the Labo(u)r parties are withdrawing because of policies that threaten them and their members. It’s happening in the UK and across Europe as well.

This temporary rise of greenieism – and it is only temporary, because it is unsustainable in the real sense of the word – is breaking up long standing alliances all over the place.

Vicki
Vicki
July 11, 2023 4:29 pm

Re my post above – sorry – the letterbox drop was for the Yes vote! This is why the farmer was irate! So – the supporters for the irate farmer were No voters – hence hus comment.

Lysander
Lysander
July 11, 2023 4:29 pm

JPII was “on the money:”

A large part of contemporary society looks sadly like that humanity which Paul describes in his Letter to the Romans. It is composed “of men who by their wickedness suppress the truth” (1:18): having denied God and believing that they can build the earthly city without him, “they became futile in their thinking” so that “their senseless minds were darkened” (1:21); “claiming to be wise, they became fools” (1:22), carrying out works deserving of death, and “they not only do them but approve those who practise them” (1:32). When conscience, this bright lamp of the soul (cf. Mt 6:22-23), calls “evil good and good evil” (Is 5:20), it is already on the path to the most alarming corruption and the darkest moral blindness.

Lysander
Lysander
July 11, 2023 4:30 pm

(Sorry that was his address from 1995)

Lysander
Lysander
July 11, 2023 4:34 pm

And, if I might go one more Popey quote, this was from 1891 where Pope Leo XIII, wrote about the great reset:

To remedy these wrongs the socialists, working on the poor man’s envy of the rich, are striving to do away with private property, and contend that individual possessions should become the common property of all, to be administered by the State or by municipal bodies.

Bergoglio should do some reading.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 11, 2023 4:35 pm

Re my post above – sorry – the letterbox drop was for the Yes vote!

There was some headscratching here, in the Wild West, indeed.

Given the anger sparked by the new heritage legislation, I reckon any farmer who voted “YES” would find himself tarred and feathered.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 11, 2023 4:37 pm

Family of allegedly tasered grandmother Clare Nowland sues state of NSW.

By remy varga
NSW Reporter
@RemyVarga
4:30PM July 11, 2023

The family of Clare Nowland are suing the state of NSW after the 95-year-old grandmother died after she was allegedly tasered by police at a nursing home in the Snowy Mountains region of NSW.

A civil matter filed on behalf of Nowland’s family was heard by the Bega District Court registry on Tuesday and has been adjourned for six weeks.

Nowland, a great grandmother of 31, suffered from dementia and lived at the residential aged care facility Yallambee Lodge in Cooma, about 400km south of Sydney.
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Nursing home staff called police after Nowland was found wandering around the nursing home brandishing a knife on May 18.

Police have claimed they tried to negotiate with Nowland before allegedly using a Taser on the 95-year-old who fell and cracked fractured her skull.

Nowland was hospitalised in a critical condition and died on May 24.

At the time of her death Nowland’s family published a tribute in local newspaper The Monaro Post to farewell the “beautiful mum, nana and great-grandmother”.

“With great sadness, the Nowland family share that our beloved Clare passed away whilst surrounded by the love and support of her family,” said the statement.

“We wish to thank the staff at Cooma Hospital for their care and support for Clare and our family.”

Senior Constable Kristian White has been charged with recklessly causing grievous bodily harm, assault occasioning actual bodily harm and common assault over the incident and has yet to enter a plea. He has been stood down with pay.

Nowland was reportedly a beloved figure in Cooma and had eight children, 24 grandchildren and 31 great-grandchildren.

The civil matter is scheduled to return before a pre-trial conference in the Civil division of Bega District Court on August 24.

The Australian approached NSW Police for comment.

Gilas
Gilas
July 11, 2023 4:44 pm

SIPCA Part 3

The audience is mainly made up of boldies and grey-haired academics of both genders and undefineds but, as school holidays are on, with a variable smattering of young families, tiger-mums and their unwitting victims.
Unlike Europe and Russia, where classical music is still popular enough to attract the young, Australiam audiences are mainly geriatric, with the obligatory smattering of younger gays and Asians. Few True-Blues to be seen around these events.
SIPCA is no exception, just with cheaper ticket prices

One of the problems with the location at the NSW Con is the lack of easily accessible catering outside of business hours. This is more of an issue because of the tight Sessions’ schedulings, short intermissions and long hours.
A problem that was remarked on by everyone I spoke to during the various intermissions.
Previous SIPCA editions at the Seymour Centre, next to Sydney Uni. were better catered, but the sound was worse.. so you can’t have everything.

While leasurely walking out of the Verbrugghen Hall, after the last session yesterday evening, our group happened to be told by one of the SIPCA Volunteers that there was a drinks’n’snacks reception downstairs, just prior to the announcement of the 12 Finalists.
Many people had already left.. there had been no announcement, written or otherwise, of this reception, anywhere since the start, last Thursday.
Good work, SIPCA Management.

Anyone who has been to musical competitions would by now know that Juries think differently to audiences. Because great disappointment is guaranteed, there’s no point in becoming attached to any one competitor. They are simply the meat in a massive, eternal grinder. One should just enjoy the variety and the music-making, which still easily beats the standard, boring, formulaic Concert Hall recitals

The past SIPCA Supremo, Warren Thompson, had a, ahem, “preference”, for young Russian male pianists. This resulted in several Russians winning prior Comps and going nowhere, while many lower ranked prizewinners went on to successful recording and professional careers.
Post-Thompson (resigned February 2014), rules and Jury composition changed in 2016. So far, both winners, in 2016 and 2021, Andrey Gugnin and Alexander Gadjiev, have established successful working careers.
The main juror’s criterium this time is: I will vote for the person that I’d pay to go and hear.

Last night, four of the nine competitors I had picked as certainties to go through were, alas, shunted off. Three of them had supreme technique but, admittedly, also tried to damage the instruments they were playing. The Jury were probably unimpressed by that.
But I’d definitely pay to go and hear them again, regardless.

Tomorrow, the Semi Finals start, 70 minutes solo recitals plus a chamber music piece and an encore. Finalists to be announced Saturday night.

Top Ender
Top Ender
July 11, 2023 4:54 pm

What are the actual numbers, or what were the numbers before the US Army and mincing David Morrisson types paved the way in gold for the trannies?

Dunno, only got out of the ADF 10 years ago and it wasn’t an issue then. The noticeable thing coming through was the number of people wanting to gain promotion by promoting agendas such as gay, Muslim etc, but they were a tiny proportion – most members hate that sort of thing.

I hear it’s accelerated now, and particularly so in the US and UK militaries, but then again they are bigger.

Breast implants being done on the taxpayer was something that annoyed a lot of members.

johanna
johanna
July 11, 2023 4:57 pm

Gilas, your recount of the Sydney International Piano Compeition reminds me of a work collegue of many years ago.

He was profoundly eccentric (I suppose nowadays there would be a name for it) in many ways. But, he was super, super bright. So, the Department would hire him now and then on short term contracts – very well paid – to solve specific problems, of the technical kind.

To describe him as scruffy is unkind to the scruffy. Bearded, unkempt, and clad in ill fitting clothes made of the cheapest synthetics, at lunchtime he woud suddenly drop his head on to the desk and go to sleep for an hour. Or, if it was noisy, he would nap in his decrepit car.

At this point, I should mention that he owned several properties.

One thing was non-negotiable – every year, bad luck if it involved the fate of the nation, he was unavailable when the Sydney International Piano Competition was on. It was the highlight of his year, who knows why.

About ten years after I had seen him last (he was amiable as long as you weren’t an ‘idiot’ who got in his way at work) I ran into him in a restaurant in Canberra. With him was a very lovely Chinese woman who he proudly introduced as his wife, who he met at the Competition.

Out of his league is putting it mildly. I would love to know the backstory on that one. But, if she thought she was going to score some easy dollars, she was crazy. 🙂

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
July 11, 2023 4:59 pm

Ooh, cool…the nice RUV Icelandic public tv peoples have moved one of their live webcams to a better spot. Eye candy!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_q1N4J5oTSE

The fissure was initially about a km long. Already the eruption appears to be slowing down, which is good. Iceland can sometimes produce nasty eruptions that cause global havok and years without summers.

Dot
Dot
July 11, 2023 5:12 pm

I have traded head-to-head with Soros. Many believe that he was also behind getting me imprisoned after his attempt to trade against the Japanese yen in 1999.

No one believes a word of that.

Dot
Dot
July 11, 2023 5:13 pm

To describe him as scruffy is unkind to the scruffy. Bearded, unkempt, and clad in ill fitting clothes made of the cheapest synthetics, at lunchtime he woud suddenly drop his head on to the desk and go to sleep for an hour.

That is comedy gold.

Roger
Roger
July 11, 2023 5:14 pm

The Daily Mail…

Abroad: ‘Australia joins the Climate Club!’

At home: ‘Albanese’s popularity plummets amidst cost of living crisis’

Australia is not being governed for Australians.

BIRM.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
July 11, 2023 5:18 pm

And just as I link the live webcam it starts to rain…all over the camera aperture.

Roger
Roger
July 11, 2023 5:19 pm

Tennis Elbow doing a Biden in Berlin. snork.

Just as long as he didn’t break into a funny walk…

Dot
Dot
July 11, 2023 5:21 pm

Or perhaps the whole drink container “recycling” system is just another government scam? And they are also lying about lead and cadmium being “inert”? And are you stupid enough to believe them about both?

Ed…I’d tell you to go and eat a stick of cadmium and lead but your mother already did it whilst you were in utero.

Roger
Roger
July 11, 2023 5:29 pm

Most Wagner troops are still in Luhansk and Prigohzin supposedly in St Petersburg.

Mind the windows, Yevgeny.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 11, 2023 5:37 pm

Major suspended for ‘sex with women at ball while wife slept’
George Sandeman
Tuesday July 11 2023, 12.01am BST, The Times

A major has been suspended by the army after claims that he had sex with two women at a summer ball while his wife was asleep in another room.

Major Duncan Wiggins, of the Queen’s Dragoon Guards, met the women at a summer ball held this month at Robertson Barracks in Norfolk, it was reported last night. The pair were guests of a junior officer, a second lieutenant in the cavalry regiment, who introduced them to Wiggins that evening, according to the Daily Mail.

After his wife, a lawyer with whom he has two children, went to bed, it is alleged that Wiggins, 34, seduced the women. He had sex with one in the television room and with the other in a mess bedroom, it is claimed, carrying on into the early hours of July 2.

Later the two women told the junior officer what had happened. He informed the regiment’s commanding officer, who investigated and suspended Wiggins.

An army spokesman said: “We are aware of an alleged incident at Robertson Barracks. As the matter is the subject of an internal investigation it would be inappropriate to comment further.”

A source told the newspaper that the junior officer was in “a very awkward” position. He said: “Major Wiggins’s activities with one of the women was in a public area. The [commanding officer] is equally aghast. Everyone knows Major Wiggins is married with children so what he’s got up to, in front of everyone, and with his wife asleep in the same building, has shocked everyone.”

Wiggins could be disciplined under new rules on sexual behaviour, introduced by Ben Wallace, the defence secretary. In March he visited Royal Military Academy Sandhurst and praised attempts to change what some critics have called a toxic culture.

He said: “Vital work has been done to create a more diverse, inclusive and supportive culture at Sandhurst and across our armed forces. From the creation of the Defence Serious Crime Unit to zero tolerance policies for sexual misconduct, attitudes are changing and so is our response, transforming the experience and opportunities for all our personnel.”

JC
JC
July 11, 2023 5:38 pm

Dover

Even though (even) the WSJ, reported on the thug meetup, why should we assume that’s true? If you dispute the assertion you raised what makes the meetup an accurate report?

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 11, 2023 5:43 pm

Pretty standard goings on, in the Officer’s Mess, I thought?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
July 11, 2023 5:44 pm

Yeh nah. Prigohzin and other members of Wagner just had a meeting with Putin. No one really knows what’s going except the principals themselves.

This will keep whole battalions of Western foreign policy wonks busy. I think it’s because Putin knows that Wagner Africa is stinky and needs to be kept right away from official Kremlin business. It makes sense for him to let Mr Prig do his thing in Mali, CAR and elsewhere in a decently and politely deniable fashion. Also the Wagner guys have been quite useful in Syria, which is messier this week in part due to the current Wagnerian opera. This might be behind Erdogan’s interesting gymnastics today (letting Sweden into Nato, and returning Azov guys to Ukraine), since he is still eyeing bits of Syria for new Ottoman Empire. A lot renewed imperial yearnings seem to be going around lately.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
July 11, 2023 5:47 pm

After his wife, a lawyer

Theres living dangerously, swimming with sharks, tightrope walking without a net, testing titanic submersibles thrillseeking, then there’s playing Russian roulette with all the chambers loaded, jumping from a plane with no parachute and sticking your nads and todger in an industrial mincer death wish.

Shagging 2 birds, in a millitary base, with a wife who is a lawyer at the same function makes me think this chap might be veering dangerously into the 2nd category.

Lysander
Lysander
July 11, 2023 5:49 pm

China introducing “palm payment:”

https://twitter.com/EzerRatchaga/status/1668652259440480257?s=20

What could go wrong with such a scheme? **rolls eyes**

H B Bear
H B Bear
July 11, 2023 5:56 pm

Shagging 2 birds, in a millitary base, with a wife who is a lawyer at the same function makes me think this chap might be veering dangerously into the 2nd category.

It reeks of biting off more than you can chew.

2dogs
2dogs
July 11, 2023 5:59 pm

This needs a Birpiri claim, say perhaps Widjirriejuggi lives there.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
July 11, 2023 6:00 pm

China introducing “palm payment:”

Stupid!

All Asian palms look the same.

Ed Case
Ed Case
July 11, 2023 6:00 pm

Ed – Reiterating fake arguments over and over will not make them true.

Bruce – the facts are:
#1. There’s only $2.50 worth of Aluminium in a Solar Panel
#2. It’s i possible to salvage the Aluminium without some glass stuck to it, making it worthless as scrap metal.
#3. Municipal Tips rate Solar Panels as General Waste, houisehold rate is $130/tonne,
commercial rate $70 tonne.
Solar Panels weigh 17 Kg, there’s 59 to the tonne.

Dead solar panels are toxic waste by all objective criteria, since they contain significant amounts of lead and cadmium. But if government wants to be hypocritical I can’t stop them.
Go on.

If I could be bothered I suspect I could start a profitable company meshing gold extraction with solar panel “recycling” (at least the silver and structural metals.

I’ll bet you couldn’t.
SimsMetal don’t want them, a scrap dealer I spoke to spent an hour getting the Aliminium off one with an Angle Grinder, swept up the glass and dropped it in his Steel Bin.
He didn’t get paid for that Bin [$800] because of the glass from that one panel.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 11, 2023 6:03 pm

This needs a Birpiri claim, say perhaps Widjirriejuggi lives there.

Has Pauline Hansen been approached for comment?

Indolent
Indolent
July 11, 2023 6:05 pm

Sometimes if you want to see a change for the better, you have to take things into your own hands.

– Clint Eastwood

That’s exactly what Victor Orban said at CPAC last year.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
July 11, 2023 6:05 pm

What could go wrong with such a scheme?

Computer says no, your palm print is class-enemy social credit score zero.

Indolent
Indolent
July 11, 2023 6:10 pm

Another for the “believe it or not” drawer.

It turns out your favorite movie is racist. What now?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
July 11, 2023 6:10 pm

Ed hasn’t heard there’re things more efficient for ten thousand expired solar panels than a Bunnings angle grinder.

Not much on top of industrial waste handling and NSW EPA policy either as far as I can tell. I admit to being a bit rusty on the latter it’s been some years since I had to do that stuff. I wonder if he knows what the TCLP is? Hint: dead solar panels certainly won’t pass it.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
July 11, 2023 6:11 pm

Ahahahaaaaa.

I have traded head-to-head with Soros. Many believe that he was also behind getting me imprisoned after his attempt to trade against the Japanese yen in 1999.

Of course it was Soros’ fault. No way it was your own idiocy and/or criminality. Something must have stood in the way of your innate genius, as you are truly a threat to Big Global.

Even though ‘they’ allowed you to continue to grift, know who you are, where you live and could have had the black choppers in at any given time. If they were who you say they were.

‘Many’ believe. Yeah righto, big fella.

Ahahahaaa. Nice self-pump, you Bad-Santa-looking thief.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
July 11, 2023 6:13 pm

Sometimes if you want to see a change for the better, you have to take things into your own hands.

– Victor Orban

miltonf
miltonf
July 11, 2023 6:20 pm

If we are to be lumbered with an antiquated monarchy, we should at least expect our unelected rulers to keep their noses out of politics. Today’s climate confab confirms that King Charles III has zero intention of doing so. The saxe-coburg tampons are not the friend of everyman.

Boambee John
Boambee John
July 11, 2023 6:22 pm

I’m not sure whether Dick Ed is beating his head against a brick wall for amusement, or whether he is beating his meat with a sandpaper glove, but it is amusing to watch either way.

Two short planks look like Einstein when compared to Ed.

Diogenes
Diogenes
July 11, 2023 6:22 pm

Re the solar panels, 5 & 6 years ago massive hailstorms struck northern Brisbane and Sunshineat Christmas.

According to favourite no 1 son who worked for 1 large insurer for the last 6 years, and now for another, says insurance companies would love to hear from anyone with a solution as they STILL have warehouses full of damaged panels.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
July 11, 2023 6:24 pm

Haha, our Clover has come up with a new bright idea! I hope it works better than her “Ride To Work Days” which in doing she fell off her bicycle and broke her ankle.

Sydney council faces criticism for CBD petrol tax (Sky News, 11 Jul)

Sydney motorists and business owners are calling for their city council to reconsider its move introducing a petrol tax for CBD drivers.

A new transport strategy recommends the state government impose a low emissions zone in the CBD which will give electric vehicles priority on Sydney’s roads.

The council’s plan has been endorsed by Lord Mayor Clover Moore and councillors with claims it will help Sydney meet its net zero emissions targets.

Zero CBD visitors is achievable in our time! The CEOs aren’t going to be happy: they’ve been trying unsuccessfully to lure their wukkas back into the office for months now, with very limited success. A holy Gaian petrol tax isn’t going help get them out of their comfy home offices and to commute to the cold and heartless city.

H B Bear
H B Bear
July 11, 2023 6:24 pm

The grey nurse ate my solar panel.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 11, 2023 6:26 pm
Gilas
Gilas
July 11, 2023 6:28 pm

johanna
Jul 11, 2023 4:57 PM

Thanks for the story Johanna.
As with all social meetings, SIPCA could be a form-fruste meat market for some “creative” types.
In the past, it was certainly well patronised by younger Asian “art lovers”, some of whom probably even played the musical instrument.

Roger
Roger
July 11, 2023 6:29 pm

…insurance companies would love to hear from anyone with a solution as they STILL have warehouses full of damaged panels.

Erm…they should have written those off years ago & taken the best quote for disposal.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 11, 2023 6:29 pm

Two short planks look like Einstein when compared to Ed.

For shame, didn’t you read his posts about the Japanese seeking a surrender, from 1943?

Roger
Roger
July 11, 2023 6:35 pm

A new transport strategy recommends the state government impose a low emissions zone in the CBD which will give electric vehicles priority on Sydney’s roads.

If Chirs Minns is the man of the people he’s touted as being he’ll give this short shrift.

Mind you, there are some in the ALP Caucus who’ll be biting their tongue.

Pogria
Pogria
July 11, 2023 6:35 pm

Zulu,
the farmer didn’t even receive a contract. The buyer was supposed to send it to him.

Diogenes
Diogenes
July 11, 2023 6:36 pm

Erm…they should have written those off years ago & taken the best quote for disposal.

Therin lies the rub. Nobody wants the bloody things. If they could get rid of them they would have years ago.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 11, 2023 6:37 pm

Roger
Jul 11, 2023 12:49 PM
Beginning to detect a theme here…

Fresh from reports of VIC building inspectors conducting “virtual” inspections, The Age now reports that VIC plumbing inspectors are signing off on roof work after viewing it from the ground

A perfect rort for everyone.
When any subsequent fault shows up, the roofing contractor can say the inspector should have spotted any defects.
And the inspector simply says, “Well, I couldn’t get a look at it. Not my fault.”
So they charge for the inspection, but never get on the roof.
Do they actually visit site?
Tasty income, ringing the builder and asking, “Is the roof on mate?”
Ker-ching!
The thing is, the roofing plumber knows it isn’t getting inspected, so can roll the dice.
Haven’t they heard of drones with high-res cameras?
OK, it won’t be as good as a physical inspection, but it would enable them to spot really obvious stuff – sheets not cut correctly, flashing missing or not installed properly, not enough Tek-screws, etc.
Of course, video inspection won’t tell you if guttering or flashing has or hasn’t been gummed up properly with that whats-it-called stuff … sillycone?
Cue God Oracle in 3 … 2 … 1.

Gabor
Gabor
July 11, 2023 6:38 pm

Indolent
Jul 11, 2023 3:54 PM

‘I Know George Soros Very Well’: Viktor Orbán Slams Open Society Founder

Well he should too, V O was sponsored by the Soros group to attend Uni in the UK until they found out that he wasn’t “one of them”.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
July 11, 2023 6:38 pm

Rishi Sunak accused of ‘VIRTUE SIGNALLING’ telling Tory voters not to vote for Tories with ban on petrol and diesel cars by 2030

I fixes it.

Ed Case
Ed Case
July 11, 2023 6:38 pm

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Bruce of Newcastle
Jul 11, 2023 6:10 PM
Ed hasn’t heard there’re things more efficient for ten thousand expired solar panels than a Bunnings angle grinder.

You reckon you could put them thru some Industrial process and win the metals,
leaving a residue of [contaminated] Silica.
While I doubt that would stack up economically, it flies in the face of your next virtue signaling comment:

Not much on top of industrial waste handling and NSW EPA policy either as far as I can tell. I admit to being a bit rusty on the latter it’s been some years since I had to do that stuff. I wonder if he knows what the TCLP is? Hint: dead solar panels certainly won’t pass it.

Quite.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
July 11, 2023 6:45 pm

If Chirs Minns is the man of the people he’s touted as being he’ll give this short shrift.

Roger – The text I quoted says a report to Minns is recommending this. All Yes Minister watchers understand you never commission a report unless you know what it will be recommending. Which implies Minns is behind this brainfart, which I do have to charitably say is better at least than the ULEZ fiasco in London.

Roger
Roger
July 11, 2023 6:46 pm

Haven’t they heard of drones with high-res cameras?

Is there a law in VIC that prohibits physical roof inspections?

cohenite
July 11, 2023 6:47 pm

BRS has good grounds for an appeal although appeals through the Fed court are difficult. This was a case with no forensic evidence if you exclude a wooden leg which came from some alleged victim. It was entirely based on testimony for and against BRS and BRS’s own evidence. Judge Besanko said BRS’s witnesses were inherently biased because their legal expenses were paid for by BRS’s legal team. This is stock standard and the witnesses against BRS had substantially more of their expenses paid, especially the afghani ones. The SAS soldiers were also granted use immunity, no incrimination, for their testimony, a major incentive. As well, at least one of them had made prior complaints about BRS and had therefore a provable bias against him.

Besanko also vilified BRS’s testimony and said it was unreliable because BRS was motivated to clear his name and receive compensation. I nearly spat my tonsils out when I read this because Besanko has impugned every defamation litigant. After all what other motivation would a person alleging defamation have other than to clear their name and be compensated for provable harm?

Roger
Roger
July 11, 2023 6:47 pm

The text I quoted says a report to Minns is recommending this.

It sounded like it was a request from Sydeny [sic] council to Minns.

Top Ender
Top Ender
July 11, 2023 6:48 pm

Don’t let facts get in the way of citizenship

Before reading the Australian citizenship booklet, little did I realise how identity politics could infect every area of national life. But the document fully expresses the dismal ideological obsessions of our time.

By GREG SHERIDAN

What are the most sacred beliefs of Indigenous Australians? Surely it’s that Jesus Christ is the son of God and the saviour of humanity. Because, just to let mere facts obstruct stereotypes for a second, the majority of Indigenous Australians identify as Christians.

You’d never guess this reading the absurd booklet that the Department of Home Affairs forces those folks seeking to become Australian citizens to study and regurgitate. I once thought such a process would be beneficial.
Little did I reckon on the wretched, corrosive power of identity politics and contemporary ideological fashion to infect every area of national life. The booklet contains some useful information but fully expresses the dismal ideological obsessions of our time.

In a publication of nearly 90 pages, festooned with photos of people and symbols the authors think praiseworthy – chiefly Indigenous Australians – and with a truly weird account of our history, there isn’t a single acknowledgment of the positive contribution of Christians and Christianity.

Since the 19th century the majority of Australians were Christian. More than 96 per cent of soldiers who enlisted in World War I were Christian. The vast majority of Australian philanthropic effort has been Christian and Jewish. There isn’t a sentence acknowledging this.

There’s one grudging statement – “Australia has a Judaeo-Christian heritage and many Australians describe themselves as Christians” – and that’s it. Generally this is an opinionated, tendentious and sometimes inaccurate booklet that identifies all kinds of heroes and villains but leaves out the single most important influence in Australian history.

The only religiously identifiable folks in the many photos are Muslim women and girls. Among the philanthropists honoured is Caroline Chisholm, who in colonial times provided shelter, jobs and help to young women, who were vulnerable to shocking exploitation. But there’s no mention that she was inspired entirely by her passionate Christian faith. She might have been motivated by Martian UFOs as far as this publication is concerned.

It’s as though this ridiculous booklet is ashamed of Australian Christianity and wants to shield new citizens from it while exuberantly overstating all manner of historical crimes the nation allegedly committed.

It’s bizarrely obsessed with Indigenous people and historical controversies concerning their treatment, as though the received wisdom on identity politics is the single most important thing new citizens must learn. It has a couple of weird stabs at describing Aboriginal beliefs. Here’s one: “The archaeological record indicates that Aboriginal people arrived between 60,000 and 45,000 years ago; however, the Aboriginal peoples believe they are central to the creation stories of this land, and their creation stories commence with the beginnings of time.”
There are two obvious problems with this kindergarten-level misstatement. The first is generalisation. As senator Jacinta Price rightly reminds us, Aboriginal Australians are individuals and should be treated as such. There is no universal Aboriginal belief. Do the booklet writers really hold that the overwhelming majority of Aboriginal Australians believe their racial ancestors were involved in the creation of Australia and didn’t arrive from Asia? But the census shows us that most Indigenous Australians identify as Christians.

According to the census, most don’t believe their “traditional religion”. This is not to diminish the importance of Aboriginal tradition but to demonstrate the absurdity of the booklet’s claims.

The booklet states as bland and uncontested fact that at the time of European settlement in 1788 there were between 750,000 and 1.4 million Indigenous people in Australia. Yet there is just no firm evidence for this extravagant figure. Some academics do claim this, but it’s based on extrapolations of extrapolations, on calculations about how many people the land could support, not on any real evidence. And 1.4 million is an extreme estimate. Why must new citizens know this, and have tendentious speculation presented as incontrovertible fact?

Presumably, this is to allow the following sentences: “Many Aboriginal people were killed in the battles over land. While the exact number is unknown, it is estimated that hundreds of thousands of Aboriginal people died. An even greater number of Aboriginal people died from the diseases the Europeans brought to the country.”
Nobody should make light of the history of Indigenous suffering and persecution. There were certainly some hundreds of massacres of Aboriginal people, with a massacre being defined as the killing of five or more people at one time. That there was even one massacre is a terrible truth and a stain on Australian history. Tragically, it’s a stain of the type that every nation bears.

Every Australian with a speck of humanity wishes advancement and uplift for Aboriginal Australians. But this is not achieved by wild exaggerations and speculations about history, designed to influence politics today.

There’s no evidence hundreds of thousands of Aboriginal people were killed in frontier wars. Thousands were killed certainly, and that is indeed tragic enough. This booklet takes the wild end of academic speculation and presents it as fact.

The booklet makes no mention of pre-European Aboriginal tribal warfare. In such warfare, Aboriginal people were no worse than anyone else. The key to Aboriginal Australians, and to loving them properly, is that they are individual human beings, in nature like all other human beings, with their good and bad. Some academics and activists pretend that pre-European Aboriginal life was a Utopia free of conflict. This is crackers. There are rock paintings thousands of years old depicting Indigenous conflict. Hunter-gatherer societies in other parts of the world were prone to deadly warfare.

None of that is remotely to denigrate Aboriginal people. All human beings, all human societies, are prone to good and bad. There’s no reason prospective citizens need to know about pre-European tribal conflict. But if the booklet is going to relentlessly denounce post-1788 Australia, then it has to apply the same standard to pre-1788 Australia. And this is meant to inspire new citizens how?

The booklet is also partisan, offering a flattering summary of the Labor Party’s purposes but nothing similar for the Liberal Party. And similarly lavishing extravagant praise on Kevin Rudd’s apology to the Stolen Generations, but no similar praise for the Howard government’s efforts to combat domestic violence against Aboriginal women and children.

If the voice referendum succeeds, our politics will be even more dominated by the sterile, destructive, endless rites and rituals of identity politics. This is updated Marxism, with identity groups substituting for class warfare.

In Marxism, the working class or proletariat was always virtuous and the capitalist class or landlords always villains. Now some identity groups are always good, others always bad. It seeks to inflame and mobilise base human prejudice and atavistic group hostilities for political purposes. Under Marxism the only time a capitalist is behaving virtuously is when he’s denouncing himself and capitalism, preferably in a re-education process. Under identity politics, the designated villain group can only be acting virtuously when physically in the process of denouncing white privilege. The object of identity politics is not harmony but endless conflict leading to new power alignments.

If the voice referendum is successful, we’ll be forced not to tell the truth but to embrace and recite extreme ideological constructs of history and critical race theory.

King Lear summed it up best: This way madness lies.

Oz

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 11, 2023 6:48 pm

The family of Clare Nowland are suing the state of NSW after the 95-year-old grandmother died after she was allegedly tasered by police at a nursing home in the Snowy Mountains region of NSW.

Good.

Boambee John
Boambee John
July 11, 2023 6:50 pm

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Jul 11, 2023 6:29 PM
Two short planks look like Einstein when compared to Ed.

For shame, didn’t you read his posts about the Japanese seeking a surrender, from 1943?

That and the fruitless quest for the Whiiiiiite Suuuuub were early indicators.

Roger
Roger
July 11, 2023 6:53 pm

Therin lies the rub. Nobody wants the bloody things. If they could get rid of them they would have years ago.

Really? They’re worth at least $1@ to scrap dealers for the aluminium frames alone.

Old Lefty
Old Lefty
July 11, 2023 6:56 pm

I have engineers in the family whose advice on building projects is: don’t even think about buying off the plan. Wait until it’s at least five years old so that the defects will have shown up.

They also have a bracing take on Bowen’s grand plan: all very nice, except for the minor problem that the technology doesn’t exist.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 11, 2023 6:57 pm

Presumably, this is to allow the following sentences: “Many Aboriginal people were killed in the battles over land. While the exact number is unknown, it is estimated that hundreds of thousands of Aboriginal people died.

Forensic evidence?

Roger
Roger
July 11, 2023 6:58 pm

If no solution could be found you’d think the insurance companies would have gone to the state government saying, “You subsidised these things, here’s our problem…which is also your problem ‘going forward’”

Old Lefty
Old Lefty
July 11, 2023 6:58 pm

Top Ender
Jul 11, 2023 6:48 PM

Indigenous Australians self-identifying as Christian? Off to the woke re-education camp with them!

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
July 11, 2023 6:58 pm

Gilas
Jul 11, 2023 9:36 AM
As noted yesterday, I have attended every session of the Sydney International Piano Competition (SIPCA) at the Con, starting last Thursday.
Break day today, between Rounds.
To avoid word-walls, I’ll make a few posts on this…

Thank you Gilas

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
July 11, 2023 7:00 pm

You reckon you could put them thru some Industrial process and win the metals

Yes, Ed. I did that sort of thing for a living for some decades. Retired now. I’ve a couple dozen published international patents on metal extraction. Done a lot of work on metallic waste disposal and effluent treatment as well.

leaving a residue of [contaminated] Silica.

Yes. In a tailings dam, which is a properly contained and certified location for such stuff. Naturally full of contaminated silica from the original gold ore. With different legislation around it. The residue after extracting silver from ground up solar panels would actually be a lot “cleaner” than the run-of-mine tailings, which typically contain stuff like arsenic and other heavy metals in levels too low to be economic. Usually a fair bit of lead, since it tends to hang around with that sort of geology.

Dropping a thousand tonnes of ground up solar panels in ten million tonnes of gold tailings is a drop in a bucket. Did I mention the tailings are full of sodium cyanide? That’s what we use to leach out the gold and the silver….

You really need to hit wikipedia and read up on all these processes and technologies Ed. Or perhaps do a degree in mineral processing and metallurgy. I don’t know if our local unis offer one of those these days, RMIT used to be pretty good.

rosie
rosie
July 11, 2023 7:00 pm

Good piece by Sheridan.
I’m guessing he’s a no?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
July 11, 2023 7:08 pm

And yes I worked at two gold mines. One we were putting 10,000 tonnes a day of gold bearing ore through, containing 1 g/t. That was just over forty years ago, summer 1982/3. Pouring liquid gold into a mold is fun.

Cassie of Sydney
July 11, 2023 7:13 pm

So, according to Mrs McManus, her gran told her that Harold Holt might have been taken by mermaids. Gosh, now I’ve heard it all, and I thought the story that Holt might have boarded a Chinese submarine was absurd, but the mermaid story is even more absurd.

Since when did Aboriginals have ‘mermaids’ in their dreamtime stories? Mermaids have only really existed in European, Asian, and African folklore?

Words fail me.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
July 11, 2023 7:14 pm

Quite a bit of NO signage appearing around Fairfield ..
authorized by Fair Australia which is lead by Jacinta Price ……

Nothing at all around Vaucluse. I have a few pamphlets for going on a walk soon.

I’m with Bons. I hope some of my YES neighbours, especially those on aboriginal harbourside, get shaken down big-time. Serve them right.

They’d better stay away from our orchard with its rock overhangs further up the hill.
If they claim these as sacred I have pics to show that our orchard was a nineteenth century quarry, and the rock faces are not anything sacred to some snake or turtle.
They were dug out by convicts and then by machinery which even Pascoe couldn’t invent.

Vicki
Vicki
July 11, 2023 7:17 pm

Pouring liquid gold into a mold is fun.

We visited the Perth Mint a few years ago & saw a demo of just that. Amazing place. They said that they had an annual scrape of the ceiling, walls etc in the area where moulds were poured, furnace etc. Apparently the most minute specks of gold adhere to surfaces, and in total, are of considerable value.

Diogenes
Diogenes
July 11, 2023 7:17 pm

Really? They’re worth at least $1@ to scrap dealers for the aluminium frames alone.

Income $1 , expenses??? Especially as there is no where to get rid of the rest of the panel. Which becomes a “hole in the bucket dear Liza dear Liza” situation.

I believe in Aus we have 1 panel recycler which is located in Vic. I have heard that they recycle a grand total of 12 panels a day.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
July 11, 2023 7:18 pm

Gilas, it’s great to have someone here keeping an eye on how the classical music sector is faring under our recent anti-civilisational impetus. Thanks for the updates and don’t forget to enjoy the music.

Ed Case
Ed Case
July 11, 2023 7:18 pm

You really need to hit wikipedia and read up on all these processes and technologies Ed. Or perhaps do a degree in mineral processing and metallurgy. I don’t know if our local unis offer one of those these days, RMIT used to be pretty good.
No, I don’t.
All I need to know is:
#1. Municipal Tips accept Solar Panels as General Waste, destination; Landfill.
#2. Solar Panels weigh 17 kg, have a volume of .125 Cubic Metres, meaning they’re labour intensive to move and there’s 8 to the cubic metre.
#3. There’s $2.50 worth of scrap Aluminium in the frame, no one on Earth has ever removed more than one frame because the glass/fibreglass panel is bonded to the frame on all surfaces and can only be removed mechanically.

Ed Case
Ed Case
July 11, 2023 7:23 pm

I’m wondering how you went as an employee, Bruce?
Since you don’t appear capable of being told anything.

I’m presuming you weren’t management, because you can’t be told anything.

rosie
rosie
July 11, 2023 7:23 pm
Roger
Roger
July 11, 2023 7:24 pm

Since when did Aboriginals have ‘mermaids’ in their dreamtime stories?

They actually do.

I suspect Jung was on to something with his notion of the ‘collective unconscious’.

(Although I doubt Ms McManus’s relative derived the notion from indigenous lore.)

Ed Case
Ed Case
July 11, 2023 7:26 pm

here’s where you can find out about solar panel recycling in Australia.

Thanks, Gooogles!

Why pay thru the nose to recycle the things when they’re accepted at the tip as General Waste, 60 to the Tonne?

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
July 11, 2023 7:26 pm

Bon I know you’re only trying to help Special Ed but he’s still wanting to pass Kindy. My nearly 3yo grandson has far more comprehension than Ed.

Roger
Roger
July 11, 2023 7:27 pm

I believe in Aus we have 1 panel recycler which is located in Vic. I have heard that they recycle a grand total of 12 panels a day.

At which point, Dio, it becomes a problem for government, in that it’s a policy matter.

Ed Case
Ed Case
July 11, 2023 7:28 pm

If Intelligence is heritable, which it is, the kid hasn’t got much to look forward to.

rickw
rickw
July 11, 2023 7:33 pm

Vaccination?

The recent vaccine circus has got me thinking more about vaccinations in general.

Some flu like bug has been doing the rounds here.

A CCP counterpart and I roughly got it at the same time.

But this CCP counterpart is different, they have never been vaccinated for anything. Why? Because they’re the second child from the height of the one child policy. You can’t just turn up with a child that’s not supposed to exist and get them vaccinated.

So we both get ostensibly the same bug at the same time. They were done with it in about 12 hours. Mild temperature, some sniffles. On the other hand I had a raging temperature, joint aches, the whole thing that went on for 48hours.

Maybe it was just my susceptibility to this particular bug. But it’s not often that you get to see how it goes down for a completely unvaccinated control.

Ed Case
Ed Case
July 11, 2023 7:33 pm

Good piece by Sheridan.
I’m guessing he’s a no?

He’s a Yes.
That article is a masterpiece of insane bullshit.
He’s using reverse psychology to Gaslight the No side.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
July 11, 2023 7:34 pm

Ed, have you ever considered auditioning to be a talking parrot? You are saying the same things over and over and its still all rubbish. Not even a single supporting citation or link, just silly assertations which fly in the face of modern metallurgical practice and development.

I can do arithmetic. At 17 kg per panel and 1 troy oz silver per panel that would be 1829 g/t of silver. If a geologist got that in a drill core he’d think he was in geo heaven. It’d be even higher grade after the aluminium and steel is removed.
Regarded as a silver ore this stuff is bonanza grade. Metallurgists would wet themselves to be allowed to process something that rich in silver.

If you regard the panels like a metallurgist does. Which greens don’t.

It’s amusing to me to see such impenetrable ignorance in action. There’re whole industries out there that do this day and night. Dozens of engineering consultancies which could design a process flowsheet in a day. You barely need even that, since an experienced guy could call up an equipment hire firm and get the plant on site in a few days.

rosie
rosie
July 11, 2023 7:37 pm

I’d rather google than read your gabble.

Roger
Roger
July 11, 2023 7:39 pm
Indolent
Indolent
July 11, 2023 7:42 pm

Mahyar Tousi. It starts at about at about a minute and a half in. Some minor funding problems with the net zero program.

LIVE: EU Net Zero Is Collapsing

Gabor
Gabor
July 11, 2023 7:42 pm

Ed Case
Jul 11, 2023 7:28 PM

If Intelligence is heritable, which it is, the kid hasn’t got much to look forward to.

Thank God we are spared of your offsprings then, you being a di..less eunuch.

Indolent
Indolent
July 11, 2023 7:50 pm

Detoxed?Info ?? ?? ?? ??
@Detoxedinfo

Eurodeputato Christine Anderson sfida i globalisti dell’OMS: “Siete voi una piccola minoranza marginale, vi abbatteremo!”

Clip tratta dal video dell’evento “Trust & Freedom (https://t.me/detoxedinfotelegram/243)” del 4 luglio 23, l’iniziativa lanciata dagli eurodeputati contro il Trattato Pandemico dell’OMS.
L’eurodeputato Christine Anderson, con un intervento deciso sfida l’élite globalista di cui l’OMS fa parte: “Siamo qui per dirvi che siete voi che avete scelto questa lotta, e ora l’avete ottenuta: combattiamo! Noi siamo milioni in giro per il mondo… siete voi una piccola minoranza marginale. E Noi vi abbatteremo! E non ci stancheremo fino a quando non lo avremo fatto.”

Here is a translation. She is speaking in English.

MEP Christine Anderson challenges WHO globalists: “You are a small marginal minority, we will take you down!”

Clip from the video of the July 4, 23 “Trust & Freedom (https://t.me/detoxedinfotelegram/243)” event, the initiative launched by MEPs against the WHO Pandemic Treaty.
MEP Christine Anderson, in a forceful speech challenges the globalist elite of which WHO is a part: “We are here to tell you that you are the ones who chose this fight, and now you got it: let’s fight! We are millions around the world–you are a small, marginal minority. And WE will take you down! And we will not tire until we have done so.”

Vicki
Vicki
July 11, 2023 7:52 pm

Top Ender
Jul 11, 2023 6:48 PM

Thanks Topender. I think Greg Sheridan is one of the best commentators on the Voice issue. Very measured, but insistent upon the facts. And courageous in his assertions – in the face of the blatant demonisation of the No case.

The question of the size of the Aboriginal population at the time of settlement is a vexed one. My reading of some of the estimates of writers some 70 or so years ago – before the invective started – is probably around 300,000.

As for the question of the amount of Aborigines killed in confrontations with settlers, squatters, troopers etc- it is also a vexed question, because it greatly differed in areas of the country. While I think that large scale “massacres” were rare, I have come to believe that intermittent and scattered murders of Aborigines while limited, were more common in areas of remote Australia where trooper patrols were rare, and huge tracts of land were being entered by various white “adventurers” keen to prosper in unexplored country.

I have recently read a book written in the late 1950s, “I, the Aboriginal” by Douglas Lockwood. I met the latter in the late 1960s. Douglas wrote down the life story of an Aboriginal man of the Alawa clan of the Roper River area in what is now Arnhem Land. Waipuldanya was a man of this clan who lived pretty much a traditional life, complete with full initiation (although taught English at a local mission) until he was offered a job as a medical orderly by a local doctor. It is a quite valuable source of information about ritual, beliefs, daily life, tribal law and relationships of a group that had retained much of their original way of life up until the middle of last century.

If you can get a copy, it is worth reading. It holds nothing back and is startling testimony to the harsh nature of relationships in traditional Aboriginal communities. It explains a lot about the continuing nature of tribal rules.

Pogria
Pogria
July 11, 2023 7:54 pm

Ed,
Greg Sheridan, on Credlin last week, stated he was a NO.
I posted a comment about it as it was being televised. Keep up man. You remind me of my dead mother in law. She would make up shit on the run just like you.

Tom
Tom
July 11, 2023 7:55 pm

Since when did Aboriginals have ‘mermaids’ in their dreamtime stories?

Simple. Being a lefty you assume middle Australia is made up gullible simpletons who’ll swallow fairy tales — which the Voice depends on.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
July 11, 2023 7:55 pm

I’m wondering how you went as an employee, Bruce?

Haha, pretty well. 😀

Got a gong from a certain very large company once, best in show that year. Out of nowhere VP rings me up, says ‘Bruce’ how would you like to go to the Commonwealth Games? I says huh? After a brief bit of thought I say no not interested, but I’d love to got to the RSA-Oz test series instead. Unfortunately our company had bought a whole corporate box at the stupid Commonwealth Games and a week sitting in it did not appeal. Even with free booze. So I says give the tickets to the next guy (who was worthy too, doing nice geoscience mapping stuff.) The worst decision I ever made, since I just said no to an world class science award because she never got around to saying that’s what it was. Commonwealth Games tickets? Sheesh, spare me. I didn’t get it. I’m a geek, I will never be able to play the corporate snakes and ladders game.

Roger
Roger
July 11, 2023 8:01 pm

Erm…folks (BoN, Pogia, BJ…); Ed is a troll.

Pay him no mind and eventually he’ll go elsewhere.

Perhaps to Peshawar.

😀

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 11, 2023 8:05 pm

Cassie of Sydney

Jul 11, 2023 7:13 PM

So, according to Mrs McManus, her gran told her that Harold Holt might have been taken by mermaids. 

I think there might have been occasions when Dame Zara spied Harold in the company of alluring young ladies, which he tried to pass off as mermaids.
But total bullshit.

Ed Case
Ed Case
July 11, 2023 8:09 pm

I can do arithmetic.

Go on. Can you?

There’re whole industries out there that do this day and night. Dozens of engineering consultancies which could design a process flowsheet in a day.

Except they haven’t.
There’s a guy in Victoria cutting 12 frames off in a day with an Angle grinder
[value: $30], sending the glass to the tip, and charging an arm and a leg for recycling.

Here’s a tip for that guy, if he’s reading:
Ditch the Grinder and send the entire thing to the tip. You’ll only get 59 to the tonne that way, as against 67 minus the Aluminium, but you can do the tip run at 6:30 and be fishing by 7:00.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 11, 2023 8:09 pm

Diogenes

I believe in Aus we have 1 panel recycler which is located in Vic. I have heard that they recycle a grand total of 12 panels a day.

Sounds like a sheltered workshop operation.
Cheap labour, with lots of manual separation of components.
Not economically viable at full labour costs.

Ed Case
Ed Case
July 11, 2023 8:13 pm


Ed,
Greg Sheridan, on Credlin last week, stated he was a NO.

Poggy,
Don’t believe everything people tell you on Credlin.
Particularly Greg Sheridan.

Cassie of Sydney
July 11, 2023 8:13 pm

“I think there might have been occasions when Dame Zara spied Harold in the company of alluring young ladies, which he tried to pass off as mermaids.”

LOL, yes. He was fond of the odd young nubile mermaid! Quite the mermaid man he was. Perhaps there is some merit in Mrs McManus’ story? LOL.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
July 11, 2023 8:14 pm

There’s a guy in Victoria cutting 12 frames off in a day with an Angle grinder

Hahaha! Does he do gold mines too?
How many angle grinders does it take to mill a thousand tonnes per day of ore?

Pogria
Pogria
July 11, 2023 8:16 pm

Roger,
I appreciate your advice. But one too many vodka tonics after dinner raises the spectre of the MiL and her son when I read the same sort of crap being spouted.

Cassie of Sydney
July 11, 2023 8:18 pm

They actually do.

Okay, thanks Roger.

I suspect Jung was on to something with his notion of the ‘collective unconscious’.

Yes, agree.

(Although I doubt Ms McManus’s relative derived the notion from indigenous lore.)

Quite so, I think Mrs McManus’ granny and her story of mermaids at the beach where Holt went missing owes more to Hans Christian Anderson’s The Little Mermaid than any dreamtime story.

C.L.
C.L.
July 11, 2023 8:18 pm

Chris Kenny says current international events prove the neocons were right and are doing a fantastic job.

Ed Case
Ed Case
July 11, 2023 8:19 pm

Let’s put it this way:

The Mermaid story is more plausible that the Official Story.

Which is:
Holt went into the water in Bass Strait on a very rough day and was never seen again.
according to the only witness Jacqueline[?] Gillespie, Harry’s last girlfriend, who was also working for Intelligence at the time and afterwards

Ed Case
Ed Case
July 11, 2023 8:21 pm

Chris Kenny says current international events prove the neocons were right and are doing a fantastic job.

You made that up?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 11, 2023 8:22 pm

LOL, yes. He was fond of the odd young nubile mermaid! Quite the mermaid man he was. Perhaps there is some merit in Mrs McManus’ story? LOL.

Or not.

feelthebern
feelthebern
July 11, 2023 8:22 pm

Mermaids in the dream time.
FMD.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
July 11, 2023 8:23 pm

Biggest chunk of silver I’ve had in my hands was about 3 kg. We were doing a project for Pirie, which then produced about 500 tonnes of silver per year. The terms of the project were we had to scarf up all the residues from the testwork and return it all. So our pyro guys put it in a crucible and melted it down, Result was a totally breathtaking lump of pure silver, brilliantly shiny and really beautiful. We couriered it back.

Biggest mass of gold I’ve ever lifted is about 50 kg, which I did one day just to see how much I could physically lift off the floor. That was all the gold bars we had on hand in the gold room at the time.

Ed is full of shit.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 11, 2023 8:26 pm

Mrs McManus is starting to sound a bit like Christian Porter’s wannabe girlfriend.

Cassie of Sydney
July 11, 2023 8:28 pm

“Or not.”

Yes.

feelthebern
feelthebern
July 11, 2023 8:28 pm

Sancho, are you saying she didn’t have stigmata ?

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
July 11, 2023 8:34 pm

Indolent
Jul 11, 2023 3:27 PM

We are not on the same level yet but I would have been second generation if I had have taken the plunge in the green uniform. GF who doesn’t count went back to building after being demobed in 1946 despite spending particularly the whole of WWII apart from the end of 1939 in uniform.

I do know since the Regular Forces were kept after WWII that we now have some 4th generation soldiers, great grand was WWII/Korea, grand Malaya/Indo emerg and maybe Viet, dad did East Timor/Iraq/early Afghan. Both in officer/OR ranks too. From what I have heard they generally are ok soldiers, cause they know all about the BS they could cop.

Wonder if the same stupidity in the UK & US is going to catch on here.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 11, 2023 8:34 pm

While I think that large scale “massacres” were rare,

More then one of those massacres were investigated, and found to be nothing more then “Stories my Nanna told me.” The most notable case was at Forrest River, in Western Australia, where “Maybe two, maybe three hundred blackfellas” were shot and burned, by a police party in 1926. The evidence amounted to a few shell casings, from a non- issue rifle, some bones that could not be identified as human, and a couple of campfire sites, big enough to “boil the billy’ for a cup of tea. Sorry, either the whole story is told, or none of it.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 11, 2023 8:37 pm

feelthebern

Jul 11, 2023 8:28 PM

Sancho, are you saying she didn’t have stigmata ?

You’ve heard of “Doubting Thomas”?
Well, I am more like “No Way, You’ve Got To Be Shitting Me Thomas”.

Boambee John
Boambee John
July 11, 2023 8:43 pm

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Jul 11, 2023 6:57 PM
Presumably, this is to allow the following sentences: “Many Aboriginal people were killed in the battles over land. While the exact number is unknown, it is estimated that hundreds of thousands of Aboriginal people died.

Forensic evidence?

Evidence, schmidence, the feelz are what counts.

Boambee John
Boambee John
July 11, 2023 8:44 pm

PS, love the passive voice: “… it is estimated …”

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
July 11, 2023 8:50 pm

Mr Panzer, at 6.48:

The family of Clare Nowland are suing the state of NSW after the 95-year-old grandmother died after she was allegedly tasered by police at a nursing home in the Snowy Mountains region of NSW.

Good.

It’s better than good.

Because a pecuniary penalty that will smack the jacks right in the cock is the only way they will take active steps to avoid this sort of appalling horseshit at any future point.

I will guarantee this retard of a plod, and who fits that term like a glove, and who also has been in that line of work for 12 long years, has been identified as a loose flog from Day One and consequently shifted around stations in different areas of NSW for all of that time.

This is one of the constant themes of management in this day and age. Shift the problem, rather than fix the problem. It’s not just the jacks, but it is particularly prevalent in those areas. Rather than admit they cocked up by a) giving him a job and b) allowing him to finish a probationary period, after which giving him the boot is much more difficult, they kept him on using the traditional Hail Mary philosophy and hoped nothing would happen.

Well, it happened.

Boambee John
Boambee John
July 11, 2023 8:51 pm

Cassie

Since when did Aboriginals have ‘mermaids’ in their dreamtime stories? Mermaids have only really existed in European, Asian, and African folklore?

Whatever it takes.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 11, 2023 8:52 pm

Sorry, either the whole story is told, or none of it.

Rod Moran “Massacre Myth” is a very good account of the “Forrest River” saga.

Boambee John
Boambee John
July 11, 2023 8:55 pm

Ed Case
Jul 11, 2023 7:23 PM
I’m wondering how you went as an employee, Bruce?
Since you don’t appear capable of being told anything.

The blackest of pots tries to criticise someone who doesn’t need Wiki to understand that cadmium and lead are dangerous substances.

Unlike local council management. Were you employed there?

Pogria
Pogria
July 11, 2023 8:59 pm
Boambee John
Boambee John
July 11, 2023 8:59 pm

Ed Case
Jul 11, 2023 7:33 PM
Good piece by Sheridan.
I’m guessing he’s a no?

He’s a Yes.
That article is a masterpiece of insane bullshit.
He’s using reverse psychology to Gaslight the No side.

Roger
Jul 11, 2023 7:39 PM
Greg Sheridan’s considered view on the Voice.

Turd Case is even more fullof sh1t than usual today.

Boambee John
Boambee John
July 11, 2023 9:04 pm

Roger
Jul 11, 2023 8:01 PM
Erm…folks (BoN, Pogia, BJ…); Ed is a troll.

Pay him no mind and eventually he’ll go elsewhere.

Perhaps to Peshawar.

Unfortunately, he visits CL’s blog far too often.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
July 11, 2023 9:08 pm

Total lack of opposition by the Federal Opposition to the MiniTrue ACMA Misinformation Bill shows again the Uniparty operates as a moot facade to the unelected bureaucracy while the whole lot pretend to be public servants.

Nobody in the public asked for this.

JC
JC
July 11, 2023 9:17 pm

Sancho Panzer
Jul 11, 2023 6:37 PM

Sanchez , don’t make another roof/ building comment again without first passing it through Martie the guild boss. First and only warning.

Cassie of Sydney
July 11, 2023 9:21 pm

“Unfortunately, he visits CL’s blog far too often.”

Yep.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 11, 2023 9:27 pm

KD at 8:50.
Lobbing this into a proper court is excellent news.
Had this been left as an internal disciplinary matter, I can just see the final report:-

“Unfortunate outcome … yada, yada … procedures followed … blah, blah … concern for safety of officers and residents … yada, yada … rigorous review of protocols for interactions with mentally ill persons … “

Yes, they would definitely work in the “mentally ill” line at every opportunity.
Of course, this has nothing to do with Saving Private Kristian, and everything to do with protecting Plod Command from any awkward questions as to how come this dickhead hadn’t been cashiered long ago.
The civil case will consider the Plod Ops Manual, but it will also consider whether his actions were reasonable and proportionate, irrespective of any provisions within the Taser-At-Will Manual.
I think that will be a stretch.

Ed Case
Ed Case
July 11, 2023 9:27 pm

If not for the neocons, Ukraine would still hold all its territory incl. Crimea, 250-500K soldiers would not have been killed, millions wouldn’t have been displaced, etc.

The enormity of it makes me wonder if Keating wasn’t so bad after all.
Yeah, 17% rates, but at least the $ was worth something then, he was never gonna grab the guns and we weren’t volunteering to follow America into Wars.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 11, 2023 9:30 pm

JC
Jul 11, 2023 9:17 PM

Sancho Panzer
Jul 11, 2023 6:37 PM

Sanchez , don’t make another roof/ building comment again without first passing it through Martie the guild boss. First and only warning.

Stay out of it … you … you … flatroofer you!

C.L.
C.L.
July 11, 2023 9:39 pm

Chris Kenny says current international events prove the neocons were right and are doing a fantastic job.

You made that up?

No Ed, it’s a very accurate summary of what he said. He specifically mentioned neocons by name and said they had been vindicated. Will happily post the video if and when it becomes available.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 11, 2023 9:51 pm

But seriously, the roof inspection thing is a total scam.
They are obviously still collecting a fee for drive-bys (at best) and possibly just a desk-top review based on a two minute Q&A with the contractor.
If “work at heights” risk is considered unacceptable the logical solution is to use drones.
If it is good enough for gastro-intestinal surgeons and aircraft maintainers to use cameras to detect problems, it is good enough for roofing inspectors.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 11, 2023 9:55 pm

News
War hero’s lawyers slam ABC over redacted documents as Federal Court defamation fight ramps up
Lauren FerriNCA NewsWire
Tue, 11 July 2023 4:03PM

Lawyers representing a former special forces commando have slammed the ABC, claiming they are trying to keep confidential sources away by redacting “dozens of documents” on the basis of relevance.

Heston Russell is suing the ABC and two of its investigative journalists over stories published in 2020 and 2021 that he claims made it look like he was being investigated for shooting an unarmed prisoner.

Mr Russell is suing the ABC and journalists Mark Willacy and Josh Robertson over the story which aired on television, radio and online on November 19, 2021.

Earlier this year, Justice Michael Lee found ten imputations put forward by the national broadcaster did hold defamatory meanings following a preliminary hearing in November 2022.

The matter is set to go to trial later this month, with the ABC no longer relying on a “truth” defence, and instead only using a new public interest test to defend the articles.

High-profile defamation barrister Sue Chrysanthou SC, representing Mr Russell who watched the proceedings via AVL, called for an urgent listing in the Federal Court on Tuesday afternoon where she told the court she had been issued “dozens of redacted documents” by the ABC.

The court was told the ABC had redacted its own documents on the basis of relevance in regards to a Marine who was given the pseudonym of “Josh” to protect.

In his judgment earlier this year, Justice Lee said while the identity of “Josh” was protected, it was “strange” as he was pictured in articles and footage of him was also aired on multiple television programs.

“Both articles record he does not want to be identified because he ‘fears retribution’,” the judgment, handed down in February, said.

“If those responsible for publication of ‘Josh’s’ photograph within the ABC though there was substance in ‘Josh’s’ fear of retribution, they must have assumed his potential assailants were a somewhat incurious and lazy lot.”

Ms Chrysanthou told the court she had “offered herself over” to be shown how the unredacted documents have been relevant to the case.

“We have been given a piece of paper that says ‘Heston comma’ and the rest is redacted, we don’t accept it,” she told the court.

“Not only did they publish a photo, they published an interview with him, his platoon, his rank, when he was in Afghanistan, the city and state he lives … They haven’t gone to a lot of trouble to hide Josh’s identity.”

Ms Chrysanthou told the court she wanted to be told the source’s name not for “curiosity” but so she could speak to other witnesses in the US.

She argued the ABC did not want her client knowing Josh’s identity because of an “unfounded” assertion Mr Russell could be a risk to him.

The high-profile silk said Mr Willacy’s evidence was “pretty incomprehensible”, while many other names in the evidence had been redacted for no reason.

Justice Lee said representatives for Mr Russell were “entitled” to know the man’s identity as he played “such a central role” in the allegations.

JC
JC
July 11, 2023 9:58 pm

She ate all the food before it got to the tables.

Martyna Krowicka had had enough.

For nearly two decades Krowicka, 35, a fine-dining chef, loved her work. “I love cooking,” she said.

She cooked at some of New Jersey’s best restaurants, including The Ryland Inn in Whitehouse Station. At age 28 she was a “Chopped” champion, and two years later a nominee for a New Jersey rising star award. In 2018, she joined Felina, an award-winning Italian restaurant in Ridgewood, New Jersey, first as sous chef and then executive chef.

But in the fall of 2021, she quit Felina. “I just couldn’t do it anymore,” she said.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/everyone-burnt-why-chefs-restaurateurs-091737574.html

On another serious note. I didn’t think it could be worse but I suspect it is. If I were a young dude in America and was confronted with the disgusting disfigurement going on by young sheilas tattooing every single part of their body, I’d rather be doing porn too. It’s freaking abominable with what’s going on. It’s so mightily unattractive. Why tattoo the most attractive parts of a female body like the arms and legs with ugly green ink?

JC
JC
July 11, 2023 10:00 pm

Whoops

Martie the guild boss.

Should be :

Guild master.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
July 11, 2023 10:02 pm

Talking to my BiL- ABC are doing another series of Muster Dogs, so I reckoned he should put his hand up, he’s a photogenic bloke plus you get a free border collie. Sent him a text and he replied the pinko lefty marxist scum google his social media history re live export and strike him off straight away-
Now tells me that they have been actually doorknocking all over the area- looks like they’re going all out to place a star where they can get plenty of the Flat Rocks wind farm in shot. Needless to say, the whole project is a rancid white elephant and not at all popular.

JC
JC
July 11, 2023 10:06 pm

Wally

Have you been reading with what’s been on here in Copland USA? Cops shoot 10,000 dogs are year. 99.99% of the shootings occurred just because a wagging pooch was nestling up close to them.

One story here has broken out causing a deluge of criticism.

JC
JC
July 11, 2023 10:13 pm
Alamak!
July 11, 2023 10:28 pm

JC> The cooking game produces winners at an early age, not later. I’d tell her what I usually told geeks who have been coding for 7-10 years and asked me why their career had stalled (or never really started) – “as a coder(chef) you’re as good now as you will ever be. Time to start looking at other things, even outside tech(cooking) as you’re not really good enough in current role.”

And the tatts might be a clue as to why she is not being flooded with offers of money to start nice dining establishments, even with rates at low-to-zero levels up till 2022.

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