Open Thread – Tues 18 July 2023


The Fall of the Rebel Angels. Pieter Bruegel the Elder, 1562

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Delta A
Delta A
July 19, 2023 6:23 pm

No regrets for my justified temper last night. Completely warranted against stalker.

Oh dear, I really do not want to get invoved in this ongoing saga, but in fairness, I must point out to you, Elizabeth, that Johanna is not now – and never has been – stalking you.

Yes, she derides your boasting about your wealth and the way that you flaunt your kindness to those less fortunate in your family. As she implies, all parents give emotional, physical and financial support to their children, without advertising it to the world. And yes, some of her posts are quite cutting, reflecting, I suspect her spirit during her PS career. But she is not stalking you.

You post and, for whatever reason, she responds. And lately, some of your posts have been OTT provoking, as though you are angling for a stoush. When, inevitably, you get one, you cry victim and accuse Johanna of stalking.

Both of you can now carry on as you will. I just needed to clear up the ‘stalking’ issue.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
July 19, 2023 6:27 pm

First YES sign spotted.

Yeah, I saw a yes corflute today on the way to the shops. A house that always has a Labor corflute when an election is occurring. The Labor drones have their orders.

Burney refusing to discuss the Voice with Jacinta Price because “We want an honest and open conversation with Australia about a path to a better future” is awesome hypocrisy. What better way to have an open and honest conversation with Australia than to have such a conversation with Jacinta where we can hear it?

‘This is about Australians not politicians’: Linda Burney refuses to debate Jacinta Price on Voice to Parliament (Sky, 19 Jul)

Add in Albo’s tangle with Ben Fordham on 2GB and I get the distinct impression that the Labor Party is a bit cross with ordinary mk1 voters right now.

‘Get on board’: Anthony Albanese snaps back at Ben Fordham for raising ‘red herrings’ about the Voice to Parliament during fiery interview (Sky, 19 Jul)

Um, no, Albo, go suck eggs.

cohenite
July 19, 2023 6:28 pm

John laws personifies why the MSM is the prime enemy of the West.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
July 19, 2023 6:29 pm

“We want an honest and open conversation with Australia about a path to a better future.
Er no you friggin’ don’t Burney. You’ve told us, you want Voice to lock Aboriginal v Australia into a permanent entente, and have “the national conversation” conducted only between the appointed fellow traveller Big Men and the born-to-rule Marxists MPs, ie Labor whether in government or opposition.

Indolent
Indolent
July 19, 2023 6:33 pm

Delivered the weather report and then keeled over and died.

CBS New York Meteorologist Elise Finch Has Died Suddenly! What is Elise Finch Cause of Death?

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 19, 2023 6:37 pm

Alleged tasering of grandmother Clare Nowland ‘disproportionate, excessive use of force’

By remy varga
NSW Reporter
@RemyVarga
6:17PM July 19, 2023

The alleged fatal tasering of 95-year-old ClareNowland by a police officer was a grossly disproportionate response and constitutes excessive use of force, according to a preliminary internal review by NSW Police.

Senior Constable Kristian White allegedly said “nah bugger it” before deploying the Taser 7 device and striking Nowland twice in the chest, the 95-year-old falling and smashing her head against the floor at Yallambee Lodge in Cooma, about 400km south of Sydney on May 18.

New details of the events leading up to the moment Mr White allegedly tasered Nowland, who died in hospital on May 24, have been revealed in police facts released by the NSW Supreme Court on Wednesday.

The facts said expert opinion and a preliminary report from NSW Police Sergeant William Watt, who inspected the scene of the alleged crime and conducted a review of CCTV and body worn camera footage, found Mr White’s alleged use of the taser did “not meet the threshold for a taser discharge in the circumstances”.

“The prosecution will allege that the accused’s actions were a grossly disproportionate response and excessive use of force to the threat posed considering Ms Clare Nowland’s age and ability,” said the facts.

“The sentence of this Court is that you be taken forth, have your taser set to “maximum” and rammed up your clacker..”

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 19, 2023 6:44 pm

Farmer Gez

Jul 19, 2023 3:06 PM

Our young farmer protesters got right up in Andrew’s grill,

And, just like that, youse are all Gariwerd Nasties*.
….
* Grampians Nazis.

Indolent
Indolent
July 19, 2023 6:47 pm

Of course not. What do they care about the effects of their delusions on ordinary people.

Biden Official Behind Gas Stove Crackdown Admits She Has No Clue What It Takes To Install An Electric Stove

Roger
Roger
July 19, 2023 6:49 pm

Alleged tasering of grandmother Clare Nowland ‘disproportionate, excessive use of force’

Experts agree with blokes down at the pub.

An all to rare confluence of opinion these days.

Roger
Roger
July 19, 2023 6:49 pm

too*

cohenite
July 19, 2023 6:51 pm

The bastards are going to get Trump. The Georgia BS is based on his phone call to the creep Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger, a member of the GOP, who recorded Trump’s call, doctored it and released the altered version to WAPO. Trump has just failed in his attempt to get this charge dismissed. Interestingly his legal team said to the Georgia SC that based on their decision, no charge, no matter how egregious or fabricated, would be thrown out by them.

Then, we have the Jan 6 indictment where we also have clear evidence Trump tried to dissuade the protestors from being violent, but had truncated versions of his speech used by the MSM and now the indicters led by the arsehole jack smith, to take him to court.

Meantime the coke /WH saga gets even more surreal with the DOJ having destroyed the coke, bag and all.

In Australia, I have a gut feeling the screech will get up, one way or another. The left are totally emboldened.

Crossie
Crossie
July 19, 2023 6:52 pm

JC
Jul 19, 2023 5:39 PM
I think the country has a grandma problem.

No necessarily a grandma problem, I suspect it’s an empty nest syndrome. These women are at a loose and and need meaning in their lives. In more religious times they would have been involved in their parish activities so now they are replacing that void with the green religion.

John H.
John H.
July 19, 2023 6:55 pm

Crossie
Jul 19, 2023 6:52 PM
JC
Jul 19, 2023 5:39 PM
I think the country has a grandma problem.

No necessarily a grandma problem, I suspect it’s an empty nest syndrome. These women are at a loose and and need meaning in their lives. In more religious times they would have been involved in their parish activities so now they are replacing that void with the green religion.

Meaning is for the depressed. They need drugs of many kinds and at frequent intervals.

Ed Case
Ed Case
July 19, 2023 6:57 pm

Plenty of Sixtyish Grandmas died during the Pandemic, they’re still dropping.

Pfizer, eh?
Solving the excess Grandma problem
[since 1923]

calli
calli
July 19, 2023 6:57 pm

Crossie, you asked about the dragon weathervane on the church. The central pin has a cross (or it could be a fleur de lis) on top.

So, metaphysically it makes sense. The dragon twists and turns in all weathers, but the cross remains stationary and supreme.

Also, a cross would not make a practical weathervane, providing little wind resistance.

Learned something today…the place is pronounced “sarla”, no final “t”. About to go down and have a mooch around the market. I was told last night that the cheese vendor is excellent.

Crossie
Crossie
July 19, 2023 7:00 pm

Roger
Jul 19, 2023 6:07 PM
The Daily Mail:

‘The New Zealand Greens have released an election policy to return stolen land, included privately owned land, to Maori.’

I will believe they are serious only when they hand in their land without compensation and return to the lands of their ancestors.

Crossie
Crossie
July 19, 2023 7:03 pm

calli
Jul 19, 2023 6:57 PM
Crossie, you asked about the dragon weathervane on the church. The central pin has a cross (or it could be a fleur de lis) on top.

Calli, thank you for the clarification. That makes sense as the cross would be over all repelling dragons and gargoyles.

Roger
Roger
July 19, 2023 7:07 pm

Who would have known, or cared, that Farage had an account with Coutts?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
July 19, 2023 7:07 pm

Confidential Biden DOD memo reveals “transgender” service members can skip deployments and receive indefinite physical fitness/standards waivers

Also they get to shower with and bed down in between real women.

Female Military Recruit Had To Shower With Men Who Were Transitioning To Women (18 Jul)

An 18-year-old female military recruit was forced to shower with and sleep between two males who claimed to be transitioning to women, Republican South Dakota Sen. Mike Rounds told Fox News.

No wonder the US Army has been having trouble recruiting lately. The men don’t want to serve with effete qwerties and the women don’t want to be groped or worse by chancers in drag.

Crossie
Crossie
July 19, 2023 7:09 pm

cohenite
Jul 19, 2023 6:28 PM
John laws personifies why the MSM is the prime enemy of the West.

What did he say?

bespoke
bespoke
July 19, 2023 7:10 pm

Meaning is for the depressed.

?

Pogria
Pogria
July 19, 2023 7:10 pm

Calli,
as a cheese lover, I wait with anticipation for your cheese-a-logue. Leave nothing out please. 😀

Roger
Roger
July 19, 2023 7:16 pm

I will believe they are serious only when they hand in their land without compensation and return to the lands of their ancestors.

I believe they have farmers & graziers in their sights.

calli
calli
July 19, 2023 7:17 pm

Pogria, if I tried every type of cheese on offer here I’d be six axe handles across and BA would need to give me a seatbelt extension! 🙂

Having said that, my favourite so far are the tiny “young” wheels of creamy soft cheese like a rindless Brie. I suspect it’s made from raw milk. It’s served with a dressing of honey and accompanied with nuts or bitter leaves. The other good one at the opposite end of cheesy taste is the bright orange, crumbly “blue”.

And that’s enough from this surrender monkey. Time to venture forth.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 19, 2023 7:17 pm

Female Military Recruit Had To Shower With Men Who Were Transitioning To Women

Anybody imagine the withering scorn that an N.C.O. in the “Legion du Papa” – the “Old Army” would have dealt with this?

“You are transitioning to be a woman? Right, report to medical at 0900 hours to have your willie, and balls cut off – Anesthetic? What’s that?”

Pogria
Pogria
July 19, 2023 7:21 pm

Calli,
thanks for the twofer. I know what you mean. Cheese is great for the bones, too much, not so great for the bum. ;D

Jorge
Jorge
July 19, 2023 7:22 pm

“ after an internal risk committee judged his “views were at odds with our position as an inclusive organisation”,

So include him out ?

bespoke
bespoke
July 19, 2023 7:23 pm

I like kraft singles.

Roger
Roger
July 19, 2023 7:25 pm

“ after an internal risk committee judged his “views were at odds with our position as an inclusive organisation”,

So include him out ?

Crucify him outside the city walls.

John H.
John H.
July 19, 2023 7:26 pm

bespoke
Jul 19, 2023 7:10 PM
Meaning is for the depressed.

?

Obscure joke:

Popper in interview:

“Most philosophers are really deeply depressed because they can’t produce anything worthwhile.”
Aristotle:

“Those who have become eminent in philosophy, politics, poetry, and the arts have all had tendencies toward melancholia.”

Indolent
Indolent
July 19, 2023 7:28 pm
Razey
Razey
July 19, 2023 7:31 pm

Hunchback really copping it sweet from everyone this time.

Will this be his downfall?

I pray to Lord Almighty, praise be to Jesus that this piece of shit goes in disgrace.

bespoke
bespoke
July 19, 2023 7:32 pm

Cheers John.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
July 19, 2023 7:33 pm

Thinking and/or worrying about ticks suggests only a desire for recognition. But most of us are anonymous to each other, so any recognition can only puff up the ego and then only momentarily.

Bar Beach Swimmer, your extended exegesis on upticks is completely redundant to what my complaint has been about. It is NOT about ego. I don’t give a fig about who does or doesn’t uptick what I say. And having ‘friends’ here has nothing to do with upticks. It has to do with the encouragement and commonality I have felt and shared with certain people concerning their interests and what they say and what I say. Obviously, some people are more on my wavelength than others (the fifth century in Britain, for instance, is not for everybody; nor is autism). Why I concentrate on upticks relates absolutely and only to the manner in which a known STALKER, far worse than Grigs ever was, who tells inordinate lies about me, and clinging to a narrative she’s established over years, is approved of by massive numbers of upticks, indicating approval of her STALKING (which is what it is, and what it has been for over ten years now).

You wonder at me as an eighty year old (until tomorrow, lol)? I’m ok, a reasonably normal person, not dementing and fairly involved with the world. I am coming in on this topic again merely to say that your interpretation of why I am here and what I want (upticks! upticks!) is specious and unworthy of your intelligence. You have grabbed the wrong end of the stick. What I want is for absolute stalking to be recognised for what it is and ignored. If someone really thinks the female stalker has a point, then come in and elaborate on that point and I will answer it, rather than upticking a stalker. You think I’m a narcissist? Well, define your terms and I will answer you. You think I have mentioned my Huguenot ancestry 177 times? Ask me if that is true and am I just going on about it or is there a reason for any occasional mention I make of it, and I will put you straight. You think I tell lies as the stalker always claims? Well, as I say to people when they say that about Trump, I say to you re the stalker, which lies? Name them. I cannot and will not answer the points of a stalker, the lies, and the half-truths and nonsense she goes on with to denigrate my commentary. But I will answer the statements of others. The mention of university medals for sheer self-enhancement that the stalker claims? Let me tell you more about my experience of autism in medalists in that case and you might see why I was raising that issue. You think I make too much of my academic achievements? Tell me, and I’ll tell you how hard I have worked for them, and against what sorts of disadvantage, the sort most people here could never conceive here (some few might). I’ll also add that I mention these rarely and in appropriate contexts. My comments on my background, made in good faith and for historical information, not to garner sympathy, the stalker calls Angela’s Ashes, doing injustice to a good book (see my comment on it backthread) and trying to shut down any commentary I may make on the issue of childhood experiences. My familial experience of immigration also elicits the stalker’s hostility, so ask me why I think my own is signficant and important historically. I am also happy to respond to any queries or beliefs about my possible over-sharing made by others, not the stalker, on these aspects of my life. My response will be about exploring written forms. As for living where I do, the stalker simply cannot cope with her own connotations of this, and goes off the deep end about it. What she retails is not my reality. If you wish to know more (or less) about it, tell me and I will respond instead of upticking the stalker.

You think I talk at cocktail parties about ‘my book’ and bore people to death and haven’t produced anything as the stalker constantly claims? If you want to take up that line of the stalker then I will point you to about twelve (haven’t really kept count) recent publications, two of them major, in Quadrant (and a track record of publication that got me appointed to a senior lectureship). If you think I shouldn’t mention this, then I will respond to you why I do and why I have some right to do so, and leave you with your own opinion once you have heard mine. And there is no cocktail party where I converse on the fifth century, as the stalker is always keen to suggest in her mocking. You think no doubt with your upticks of the stalker that my husband is a rat with a gold tooth, and later that I am also such? You think my husband should have been fully doxxed by name on this site by the stalker? You uptick that it is ok for her to stalk me via my first husband’s credentials, which she has done? You think that I haven’t seen the stalker reduce some people here to fear concerning her doxxing of them, destroying them economically? To the extent that they wrote to Sinc about it? In other words, if you uptick the stalker to tacitly agree with ancient memes better buried, you tacitly disagree with everything that Dover (with his duelling thread) and Sinc previous (putting her into moderation) have tried to do to protect the blog.

The stalker is a sad case. She choses to live where she does; if she’s happy there that’s fine, but she does have other options. It seems her sisters are coming to visit soon, probably with bad news, she implies. She will seek comfort here and should get it. I am not trying to stop the stalker engaging with this blog. I just think she has a fixated stalking mentality about me in particular (and has had with one other person here in the past). Thus, I will continue to object to her real stalking as long as it continues to exist on this blog. And also object to those who uptick it. As for upticking me, forget about it. I’m not looking for it, and certainly would not be here if it was important, I’d go for it more on The Australian, where it counts, for I am not one of those whose comment topics are likely to engage large numbers. I don’t try for that. I enjoy being here for its own sake and for exploring some ways to write things.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 19, 2023 7:33 pm

A slew of additional evidence against Heuermann — including gruesome porn searches and a fake Tinder account — eventually led police to test his DNA found on a discarded pizza crust.

What on earth is discarded pizza crust?
How does this happen?

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
July 19, 2023 7:43 pm

Mark Steyn’s heart troubles continue, forcing him to abandon the MarkSteynOnline cruise a day early.
He was “wheeled off the ship and straight into bed in Trieste”.
His take on culture and politics is irreplaceable. Get well soon, you fearless warrior.

Pogria
Pogria
July 19, 2023 7:45 pm

Dymocks is selling the vile kid’s sex book.
Time to go Bud Lite on Big W and Dymocks.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
July 19, 2023 7:46 pm

Delivered the weather report and then keeled over and died.

Global warming dunnit.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 19, 2023 7:47 pm

Time to go Bud Lite on Big W and Dymocks.

I went “Bud Lite” on Dymocks when they started selling Bruce Paxton books.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 19, 2023 7:48 pm

Roger

Jul 19, 2023 5:58 PM

The source said the clear beneficiary was Qantas…

Maaate!

The Chairman’s Lounge is their best performing profit centre.
Stir in politicians, add a generous dollop of French champagne and, voilá!

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
July 19, 2023 7:53 pm

What on earth is discarded pizza crust? How does this happen?

Such disrespect of this gastronomic delight could only have been carried out as an act of terrorism. Upon jumping out of the bushes in front of his victim,
Heuermann shouted…
(hehehehee, are you ready?)
Heuermann shouted…

“You wanna pizza dis? Huh!
YOU WANNA PIZZA DIS?”

😀

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 19, 2023 7:55 pm

H B Bear

Jul 19, 2023 6:04 PM

Maaate!

It’s as if Geoffrey Dixon never left. The poor Mangy Roo.

A rello on Mrs P’s side was maaaates with Geoff Dixon, and enjoyed the hospitality of Q, including upgrades and troughing at the Chairman’s Lounge (or whatever the Q top table was called then).
He was devastated when “the little Irish poofter” discontinued his CL membership.
I tried to explain that the CL was purely a political lobbying tool, not a high-end lotalty scheme.

cohenite
July 19, 2023 7:57 pm

Jul 19, 2023 7:09 PM
cohenite
Jul 19, 2023 6:28 PM
John laws personifies why the MSM is the prime enemy of the West.

What did he say?

I was between meetings and was trying to clear my head; that’s my excuse for listening to the old bastard. He had some poor wretch on who was listing verified examples of how 3rd nations get favoured treatment. Laws went all abc, called the guy jealous, a racist, interrupted him continually, the usual abc interviewing technique and declaimed 3rd nations got no special treatment for some time after hanging up on the guy.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 19, 2023 7:58 pm

Indigenous Voice to Parliament
Deputy Prime Minister ‘not troubled’ WA’s Aboriginal Cultural Heritage Act will damage Voice chances
Rebecca Le MayThe West Australian
Wed, 19 July 2023 5:43PM

Deputy Prime Minister Richard Marles says he’s not troubled that confusion around WA’s Aboriginal Cultural Heritage Act will damage the chances of voters backing the proposed Indigenous Voice to Parliament in the referendum later this year.

On a lightning one-day visit to Perth on Wednesday that included a meeting with Premier Roger Cook, Mr Marles held a brief press conference with Fremantle captain Alex Pearce and former Dockers footballer Roger Hayden to promote the benefits of the Voice.

“The WA Act is obviously a matter for the West Australian Government and people working through the issues associated with that,” he told reporters.

“I’m not concerned.”

Mr Marles added that on a trip to Yule River in the Pilbara last week for an annual on-country bush meeting where First Nations people from across the region speak with Government representatives, the Act was “not an issue which came to the fore” but closing the gap was.

I’d like to see him stand on a Wheatbelt property, and make that claim.

Crossie
Crossie
July 19, 2023 8:17 pm

The hysteria over the heatwave in the US seems confected. When we were in western US in July 2003 it was 42 or 43 degrees every day in Las Vegas and over 47 degrees or 117 F in Arches National Park when we drove through there. Monument Valley was just as hot. We would get out for photos for a few minutes and then back into the air conditioned car. Yet there was nothing on TV about it, on local stations or CNN.

When we mentioned at the hotel that night how hot it was in the Arches NP we were told that it’s normal for that time of year. From what I could see in reports the temps are the same as in 2003 but suddenly it’s the apocalypse.

miltonf
miltonf
July 19, 2023 8:18 pm

Laws was always an ALP shill.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
July 19, 2023 8:25 pm

‘Machine-gunning questions at me’: Moment Andrews clashes with reporters

Dictator Dan misses out on the genuine Ceausescu treatment yet again.

132andBush
132andBush
July 19, 2023 8:25 pm

If you’re a Pink Floyd fan (and even if you’re not).

This is superb.

Crossie
Crossie
July 19, 2023 8:27 pm

miltonf
Jul 19, 2023 8:18 PM
Laws was always an ALP shill.

Laws is almost unknown in Sydney’s western suburbs where 2GB is still the top station even if not as popular as it used to be during Alan Jones’ time. The only reason I know who Laws is dates back to my childhood when he was the daytime radio.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
July 19, 2023 8:27 pm

Linda Burney rejects Jacinta Price’s Voice debate challenge

No, no, it’s not outright rejection, it’s just a temporary delay. They need to install the Ministry of Truth ACMA Misinformation powers before they have the free and open debate on the InVoice.
It is all part of plan, comrade.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 19, 2023 8:33 pm

JC
Jul 19, 2023 5:39 PM
I think the country has a grandma problem.

Nothing a good taserin’ won’t fix.

Jorge
Jorge
July 19, 2023 8:36 pm

15 yo I know of at Camberwell Grammar in Melbourne. A good footballer, academically successful, says he and mates are sick of the trans/ gay stuff pushed by staff and some parents and peers are reacting strongly against it.
Two boys at the school have identified as trans and cop daily ridicule and mockery from others.
Most of the boys see how sick it is, he says, want nothing to do with it and resent like hell the way it gets shoved at them.
From my experience of adolescent boys I’d say this tale of resistance to authority figures is spot on.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 19, 2023 8:40 pm

Roger

Jul 19, 2023 7:25 PM

“ after an internal risk committee judged his “views were at odds with our position as an inclusive organisation”,

So include him out ?

Crucify him outside the city walls.

I wonder what the “internal risk committee” might have found if the victim’s family hadn’t fired a writ in.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 19, 2023 8:41 pm

Sorry.
Confused NSW Police risk committee with Bankers risk committee.
But you get the point.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 19, 2023 8:43 pm

The Indigenous senator has finally revealed what she said to the One Nation leader
Joanne WilliamsonNCA NewsWire
Wed, 19 July 2023 6:14PM

Controversial indigenous politician Lidia Thorpe has disclosed she has been subjected to death threats and abuse in recent weeks, and is now receiving formal protection.

“I’m an outspoken person and I am a target at the same time,” she told The Project on Wednesday.

But she said it the backlash had become “pretty serious” in recent weeks.

“There are a lot of people out there that don’t want me in that role or in this role that don’t want me in parliament. That don’t want me alive,” she said.

“I’ve felt very unsafe over the last few weeks. Until things are resolved then I continue to feel unsafe and it is shit.”

The forthright indigenous senator has made headlines for a range of reasons, including her push for the Blak Sovereign movement, rejection of the Voice, criticism of King Charles and allegations of sexually inappropriate behaviour against a fellow senator.

“Politics are hard. Blak politics are harder and rougher. I do come out with what’s on my mind and it doesn’t always come out right. It doesn’t always come out nice,” she said.

She has also revealed what she told fellow senator Pauline Hanson after she had made an emotional address to parliament over sexual assault allegations, when Senator Hanson accused her of crocodile tears.

When interviewer Hamish McDonald asked Senator Thorpe what she said to Senator Hanson on that day, Senator Thorpe replied: “Am I allowed to say that on telly?

“I told her to f*** off because she was being outright rude and nasty and she was baiting me the whole time I was doing my speech,” Senator Thorpe said.

“The only comeback with how she responded to me, was to f*** off, Pauline.”

Senator Van, who was expelled from the Liberal party room and has since quit the party, has denied Senator Thorpe’s accusation.

“Death threats and abuse?” I’m calling “Bulls!t” on that!

Dot
Dot
July 19, 2023 8:47 pm

Laws was always an ALP shill.

You guys are nuts.

Dot
Dot
July 19, 2023 8:51 pm

https://pmtranscripts.pmc.gov.au/release/transcript-22788

Release Date:
29/05/2000
Release Type:
Interview
Transcript ID:
22788

Very chummy to fair at worst.

Interview with John Laws, 2UE Radio

Subjects: Reconciliation, treaty

E&OE…………………………………………………………………………………

LAWS:

Are you there Prime Minister?

PRIME MINISTER:

Yes I am.

LAWS:

Thank you. I’m sorry we messed you around. We had a loose plug here. How are you John?

PRIME MINISTER:

I’m very well thanks.

Lee
Lee
July 19, 2023 8:57 pm

“Politics are hard. Blak politics are harder and rougher.

She in the senate, but Thorpe can’t even spell a simple word like “black.”

Razey
Razey
July 19, 2023 9:01 pm

Most of the boys see how sick it is, he says, want nothing to do with it and resent like hell the way it gets shoved at them.

Yep. The kids know they are perverts. Shits gonna get real soon. These neo-marxist homo lovers are gonna get wiped out.

Dot
Dot
July 19, 2023 9:02 pm

BLAK means they’re really black and not actin’ white.

feelthebern
feelthebern
July 19, 2023 9:03 pm

Just got around to watching Wakanda Forever.
The worst Marvel movie so far.
Who writes this shite?

feelthebern
feelthebern
July 19, 2023 9:06 pm

The first Black Panther was pretty good.
Michael B Jordan is a very good actor.
Boseman would be rolling in this grave over the second one.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 19, 2023 9:06 pm

Controversial “indigenous” politician Lidia Thorpe

Lidia Thorpe is of 1/16th Aboriginal ancestry…

Ed Case
Ed Case
July 19, 2023 9:07 pm

Yep. The kids know they are perverts. Shits gonna get real soon. These neo-marxist homo lovers are gonna get wiped out.

No they’re not.
Why be a dickhead all your life?
Are you trying to make up for Winston Smith taking a break?

John H.
John H.
July 19, 2023 9:09 pm

I was between meetings and was trying to clear my head; that’s my excuse for listening to the old bastard.

Cohenite’s strategy to clear his head is to listen to a talking head. He needs to do the Montreal Cognitive Assessment.

Razey
Razey
July 19, 2023 9:10 pm

If Hunchback ran a business like it does Sicktoria, how long would that bag of shit last?

Not even 1 day.

Cassie of Sydney
July 19, 2023 9:12 pm

If you want to know the problem in Teal electorates in NSW, in Victoria and in WA, and the thinking among your privileged young, I had this exchange this evening before my Pilates class with the class instructor and another young women.

I arrived early at my class, and was sitting looking at my phone when I heard this exchange between the young women….

The instructor, “oh I thought I recognised your name, you were a year above me at St Hilda’s”‘

The other young women, “yes, yes”, and then lots of gushing and wow…wow…wow, about living in Sydney.

So, upon hearing the words “St Hilda’s”, I popped my head up and said…

“oh really, so you are both from Perth? I lived in Perth and did some of my high schooling in Perth, decades ago, I told the girls the name of the school I attended, just up Stirling Highway from St Hilda’s.

The girls…”oh wow”.

Me….”it was a long time ago”. “St Hilda’s is a good school, that’s where Gina Rinehart went to school”

I noticed how the faces of the instructor and the girl suddenly soured and drooped, like they both had rapid onset bells palsy. So, I said…

“What’s wrong with Gina Rinehart? She’s a great Australian, she’s an amazing woman, a woman who runs a company that employs thousands of people, that contributes to this country, that pays hundreds of millions of dollars in tax to our federal coffers that pays for hospitals, schools and other services”.

The Pilates class started shortly afterwards.

I thought to myself, these young women typify everything that’s wrong with Teal electorates. Gina Rinehart, an articulate woman, an iron ore magnate, who despite employing thousands of people, despite contributing to this country, particularly our athletes, who pays hundreds of millions of dollars in tax to our federal coffers…is “evil”, because she dares to question climate hysteria and because she supports conservative causes, yet Twiggy Forrest, another magnate who also makes his money digging up iron ore, is okay….coz…coz….coz….he speaks da climate change lingo bullshit, and they all fall for it like the indoctrinated rabid little zombies they are.

I have no doubt whatsoever that both of these young women are daughters of privilege, of wealth, of great comfort and of Liberal Party voters.

After the class, both girls were gushing about their looming Europe travel plans, one girl asked the other girl where she was going in Europe and the other girl smugly responded “where aren’t I going!”

I do understand how and why revolutions happen.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 19, 2023 9:14 pm

Cheating houso midget ranga gawn!

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 19, 2023 9:16 pm

Gina Rinehart, an articulate woman, an iron ore magnate, who despite employing thousands of people, despite contributing to this country, particularly our athletes, who pays hundreds of millions of dollars in tax to our federal coffers…is “evil”,

Gina Rinehart, who inherited an almost bankrupt estate from her father….

Beertruk
Beertruk
July 19, 2023 9:17 pm

Time to go Bud Lite on Big W and Dymocks.

I went “Bud Lite” on Dymocks when they started selling Bruce Paxton books.

Bugger…just found and bought Nigel Biggar’s Colonialism ‘A Moral Reconing’ from Dymocks yesterday.

Razey
Razey
July 19, 2023 9:18 pm

After the class, both girls were gushing about their looming Europe travel plans, one girl asked the other girl where she was going in Europe and the other girl smugly responded “where aren’t I going!”

I do understand how and why revolutions happen.

Also dumb and likely on their 5th Vaxxx. If Dr Geert Vanden Bossche is right, they wont be around much longer. I wont shed a tear.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 19, 2023 9:19 pm

‘bern, you asked about TV shows the other day.
We are watching “Hijack” on Apple TV.
It’s not bad, in terms of plot and scripting.
The only cliches which grate on me are the leading ladies who are multi-tasking super-efficient hotshots to the point of tedium.

cohenite
July 19, 2023 9:24 pm

Cohenite’s strategy to clear his head is to listen to a talking head. He needs to do the Montreal Cognitive Assessment.

Don’t be patronising dickhead.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 19, 2023 9:24 pm

Indigenous voice to parliament: Anthony Albanese undermined on treaty claim

By rosie lewis
Political Correspondent
@rosieslewis
8:58PM July 19, 2023
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Supporters of an Indigenous voice have said the body must be established so it can negotiate treaty, undermining Anthony Albanese’s declaration that the referendum is “not about a treaty”.

The Coalition accused the Prime Minister of making misleading claims in a heated and lengthy interview with 2GB’s Ben Fordham on Wednesday, in which Mr Albanese contradicted one of the architects of the Uluru Statement from the Heart Megan Davis by saying the voice wouldn’t be able to talk to the ­Reserve Bank of Australia.

Mr Albanese also said the voice was not about compensating Aboriginal people, and vowed that his government would absolutely reject its advice at times – including if it suggested changing Australia Day.
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“This is not about a treaty. This is the issue here – we’ve had a debate about things that aren’t happening rather than about things that are,” Mr Albanese said. “Read the (referendum) question, which you’re going to be asked about. It isn’t about anything else. It’s not about treaty, it’s not about compensation, it’s simply about ­listening in order to get better ­outcomes.”

The Prime Minister was asked in May if the voice would lead to a treaty and truth-telling, and said: “They are very much a part of the next phase, if you like.

“And one of the things that a voice to parliament would be able to do is to talk about Makarrata – the need for agreement-making and coming together after a ­conflict.”

UNSW Law School professor Gabrielle Appleby and senior Uluru Dialogue member Eddie Synot wrote in March: “Voice precedes treaty because fair, modern treaty negotiations require first the establishment of a representative Indigenous body to negotiate the rules of the game with the state.

“It can’t be left to the state alone, and the state must have a group of people with whom to negotiate.”

The Uluru statement called for a voice followed by a Makarrata Commission – to supervise treaties – and truth-telling.

Cassie of Sydney
July 19, 2023 9:25 pm

“Gina Rinehart, who inherited an almost bankrupt estate from her father….”

Yep, who was also a mean old shit to his daughter and first wife, which is why Gina got married young.

I used to see old Lang around Dalkeith and Claremont, he always looked like a bu, and drove a bombed out merc.

Cassie of Sydney
July 19, 2023 9:27 pm

Lidia Thorpe is a disgrace.

feelthebern
feelthebern
July 19, 2023 9:27 pm

The only cliches which grate on me are the leading ladies who are multi-tasking super-efficient hotshots to the point of tedium.

Hmm..it’s on the list.
I’ve started watching some doco’s on YouTube.

Cassie of Sydney
July 19, 2023 9:27 pm

“bu,”

that should be ‘BUM”

feelthebern
feelthebern
July 19, 2023 9:29 pm

Lidia Thorpe is a disgrace.

Most entertaining show on TV.

Beertruk
Beertruk
July 19, 2023 9:29 pm

I do understand how and why revolutions happen.

Knitting springs to mind… 😉

hzhousewife
hzhousewife
July 19, 2023 9:31 pm

Albo is either naive in the extreme, or very very sneakily evil.
Not My Prime Minister.

Crossie
Crossie
July 19, 2023 9:35 pm

After the class, both girls were gushing about their looming Europe travel plans, one girl asked the other girl where she was going in Europe and the other girl smugly responded “where aren’t I going!”

I do understand how and why revolutions happen.

Cassie, I know where these young women are not going in Europe. They will not be anywhere near where the cars are burning, where there is rioting and where the revolution is already happening.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 19, 2023 9:37 pm

I used to see old Lang around Dalkeith and Claremont, he always looked like a bu, and drove a bombed out merc.

Before or after he married the fair Rose?

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
July 19, 2023 9:38 pm

The Fin runs amok in the F-18.

Apart for the AOA maneuver, generally speaking, you will not see a RAAF pilot do what the Fin does in this aircraft. I think they are not allowed to try? … I’ve yet to see a display from the RAAF that even comes close. If you know of a similar RAAF display, put it up.

No thrust vectoring going on here.

Dafydd Phillips:

Kapteeni Henri Toppari is Finland’s solo display pilot and had no intentions of being left out of the crowd stopping displays we had at the 2023 Royal International Air Tattoo. Flying his F/A-18 Hornet he pulled continuous G-forces up to 9 G from his performance take off.

RIAT 2023 FINLAND F-18 PULLING INCREDIBLE G-FORCES 4K

Crossie
Crossie
July 19, 2023 9:41 pm

I used to see old Lang around Dalkeith and Claremont, he always looked like a bu, and drove a bombed out merc.

Cassie, surely he updated that once he married Rose, or even before to make sure she married him.

Cassie of Sydney
July 19, 2023 9:42 pm

“Before or after he married the fair Rose?”

Before, at least Rose made him spend some dosh. He was such a mean old bastard. Rose put a smile on his face, I wonder how she did that?

Crossie
Crossie
July 19, 2023 9:43 pm

ZK2A, snap.

Cassie of Sydney
July 19, 2023 9:44 pm

“Cassie, surely he updated that once he married Rose, or even before to make sure she married him.”

He did, she made him spend some money. Rose had been his housekeeper.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 19, 2023 9:45 pm

Great minds, Crossie.

JC
JC
July 19, 2023 9:50 pm

Before, at least Rose made him spend some dosh. He was such a mean old bastard. Rose put a smile on his face, I wonder how she did that?

I know a real estate dude who was taking her around showing her houses for sale. She was in the back of the car shooting up with some drug. Years ago.

Crossie
Crossie
July 19, 2023 9:54 pm

Robert Sewell has not been around for a while. Does anyone know if he is OK?

Frank
Frank
July 19, 2023 9:55 pm

Albo is either naive in the extreme, or very very sneakily evil.

A sinister idiot perhaps.

calli
calli
July 19, 2023 9:58 pm

I was quite wrong about that little “dragon” on the church spire.

It is, of course, a stylised salamander – the symbol of Sarlat.

It was market day here, and the open air market in the carpark below was buzzing with activity. Shade proved by plane trees pleached to within an inch of their lives, French style. A trio of bottles bought, we then sought out cheese, a fig and pork saucisson, loaf of bread and a little wheel of foie gras. I small olive wood Opinel clasp knife later and we have a picnic on our balcony overlooking the town.

Life is very good.

Frank
Frank
July 19, 2023 9:58 pm

Rose was into the morphine. She also married her real estate agent, slick willy. He turned out to be gay in the end I think. Complicated people.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 19, 2023 9:59 pm

Supporters of an Indigenous voice have said the body must be established so it can negotiate treaty, undermining Anthony Albanese’s declaration that the referendum is “not about a treaty”.

And this, ladies and gentlemen, is why he doesn’t want to talk about detail.
I see a repeat of “Broken Hearted Republicans” coming up

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 19, 2023 10:11 pm

She also married her real estate agent, slick willy.

Less then three months after Lang had “Gone to God” and I do remember a long legal dogfight about whether the cause of death was due to “natural causes.”

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 19, 2023 10:18 pm

I do understand how and why revolutions happen.

Funny, someone mentioned the Ceacescus upthread.
That was an era where the conventional wisdom was that Communist Eastern Europe would soften somewhat, introduce a few Western trinkets like Maccas and Coca-Cola, but would remain staunchly Communist at it’s core.
And then it all imploded like a fibreglass submarine within months.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 19, 2023 10:19 pm

Less then three months after Lang had “Gone to God” and I do remember a long legal dogfight about whether the cause of death was due to “natural causes.”

Another unexplained vax death?

P
P
July 19, 2023 10:23 pm

Crossie
Jul 19, 2023 8:27 PM

Laws is almost unknown in Sydney’s western suburbs where 2GB is still the top station even if not as popular as it used to be during Alan Jones’ time. The only reason I know who Laws is dates back to my childhood when he was the daytime radio.

In my days as a trainee nurse Bob Rogers was favourite but did see Laws on TV and Bandstand a few times:

John Laws – Before This Day Ends (1962)

John Laws Little Bitty Big John 1962

John Laws – Funny Way Of Laughing (1962)

John H.
John H.
July 19, 2023 10:25 pm

cohenite
Jul 19, 2023 9:24 PM
Cohenite’s strategy to clear his head is to listen to a talking head. He needs to do the Montreal Cognitive Assessment.

Don’t be patronising dickhead.

Not at all meant to be helpful. Pure insult.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 19, 2023 10:28 pm

Frank

Jul 19, 2023 9:58 PM

Rose was into the morphine. She also married her real estate agent, slick willy. He turned out to be gay in the end I think. Complicated people.

Not sure who you are talking about, but let’s see.
Opioid abuse and a gay real estate agent with the nick-name “slick Willy”.
Gold Coast, Sydney or Perth, right?

MatrixTransform
July 19, 2023 10:28 pm

Cassie,

while in Freo last week I pulled the car up to park behind a small bus with Jewish Library written on it.
also covered in what I assume was Hebrew, and with religious type imagery

I did think that maybe I was too close to the bus and kept looking at it while I’m having a smoke after an hour’s drive and standing there with my laptop wheely-bag

after a few minutes a young fella gets out of the bus and asks with a New York accent, “are you Jewish?”

I said, “nah, but I was wondering if I’m parked too close to the back of yr truck?”

any way we got talking and it turns out him and his mate had just flown outta New York, grabbed the bus and driven across the Nullabor
sponsored from Melbourne community of course, they were on some Jewish out-reach program to track down lost Western Aussie Jews that had become distanced from Judaism.
or something like that … apparently they had a list of people to visit

I asked jokingly if the reason they stopped me was because of the beard and the black bag
the younger stared at me and said,in a very Jewish way, “you look Jewish”

I said, “Lemme tell you about my grand-mother’s last words to me”
… only a year or two ago the 100 yo was looking at me intently and she turned to my Aunt and says, “Oh, he’s a proper Jew isn’t he?’

legend has it that Nan’s lineage was of Jewish Mercers in Melbourne
but it’s only a legend

anyways, it raised their interest until they found out it was on my bio-father’s side
and I did tell them that I knew about the matrilineal thing

they were impressed that I knew … but still a little baffled

they were nice guys

Frank
Frank
July 19, 2023 10:38 pm

Gold Coast, Sydney or Perth, right?

Between consenting adults in a loving and mutually respectful relationship, not that there is anything wrong with that. Of course.

Willy Porteus is a big deal in the real estate business in Perth, if the number of billboards is anything to go by at least. I think his kids run the thing now.

Cassie of Sydney
July 19, 2023 10:40 pm

“they were nice guys”

Very nice guys. Chabad Lubavitchers, they do outreach among Jews to try and bring Jews back into the fold, to get people to keep kosher, put tefillin on, go to Shule etc.

Great people. Lubavitchers are one of numerous Hasidic sects. The Lubavitcher headquarters are in NYC. Before the Holocaust there were dozens of Hasidic sects scattered across Eastern Europe and Russia, pious people. Up until World War II Eastern Europe was a Yiddish land, with a vibrant culture, a land that has now vanished, with almost all the Jews that lived there murdered.

Cassie of Sydney
July 19, 2023 10:41 pm

“MatrixTransform
Jul 19, 2023 10:28 PM”

Nice story MT.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
July 19, 2023 10:43 pm

Lang Hancock mentioned???
Now my only chance this decade to haul this one out..

What’s old and wrinkled and hangs out of a yellow bag?
Lang Hancock!

Frank
Frank
July 19, 2023 10:43 pm

Rose built a grotesque pile called Prix dMour in Mosman Park. Since been reverted I think.

She has divorced and downsized, there are visions of a Howard Hughes style decline involving regular injections and a mormon manservant to rotate the tissue box slippers.

Frank
Frank
July 19, 2023 10:46 pm

What’s old and wrinkled and hangs out of a yellow bag?

What’s yellow and feeds off dead beatles? An oldy but a goody.

Dot
Dot
July 19, 2023 10:47 pm

Prix d’Mort mixed architectural styles like orange juice and white chocolate.

Vomit.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
July 19, 2023 10:59 pm

That pileup on the Bruce Highway…

‘Massive explosion of fire’ after crash with seven vehicles and army tank | 9 News Australia

These ambitious Americans are getting too far ahead of their own schedule. Usually Abrahms tanks don’t end up in a twisted burnt out wreck until they get to Ukraine.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 19, 2023 11:01 pm

Very nice guys. Chabad Lubavitchers, they do outreach among Jews to try and bring Jews back into the fold, to get people to keep kosher, put tefillin on, go to Shule etc.

They can do their thing, but I’m stickin’ with being a lapsed Huegenot.
I’ll go to temple for Bar Mitzvahs, end of Ramadan, Christmas and the Dalai Lama’s birthday.
No more.

Indolent
Indolent
July 19, 2023 11:07 pm
Indolent
Indolent
July 19, 2023 11:10 pm
Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
July 19, 2023 11:14 pm

I think someone said this afternoon that Nigel Farage’s balance dipped below the required amount for the hoity-toity bank he was banking with.

I have heard tell of required minimum amounts for some institutions.

Thankfully, we can all rest assured he wasn’t ‘cancelled’ by Big Bank and the Cartels and the Lizard Overlords/R-child people due to his moderate conservative views.

Sorry Faulty, but you’ll have to wait for another day.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
July 19, 2023 11:15 pm

Apologies Doverlord.

Forgot about the R word.

MatrixTransform
July 19, 2023 11:16 pm

the Cafe Locked Out people were there in Freo a couple of times with their own bus

… didn’t talk to them though

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
July 19, 2023 11:22 pm

UK military to improve thanks to Ukraine ‘battle lab’ – minister

Britain will roll out new combat technology faster after learning from the ongoing conflict, Defence Secretary Ben Wallace has told MPs

The UK is learning from Ukraine in order to improve its own armed forces, Defence Secretary Ben Wallace has said, as he presented an updated national military strategy document to Parliament.

Ukraine has “tragically become a battle lab” for military technology, Wallace, who intends to step down during the next cabinet reshuffle, told MPs on Tuesday. He was presenting to fellow lawmakers the new version of the Defence Command Paper, first published in 2021.

“In this refresh we are focused on how to drive the lessons of Ukraine into our core business,” Wallace added. The British military is “enabling a culture of innovation,” he claimed, explaining one of the four key modernization directions outlined by his department.

“Following Ukraine’s footsteps, we are increasing the sourcing of those £100 solutions that can stop 100 million [pound] threats in their tracks, winning both the kinetic and economic exchange of modern warfare,” Wallace stated.

The plan also seeks increased investment in military personnel, closer cooperation with the defense industry, and a boost in productivity within the department.

Senior Ukrainian officials, including Defense Minister Aleksey Reznikov, have touted their nation as a natural testing ground for Western-made weapons.

“We are interested in testing modern systems in the fight against [Russia] and we are inviting the arms manufacturers to test their new products here,” the Ukrainian minister told the pro-NATO Atlantic Council lobby group last month. “Give us the tools, we will finish the job and you will have new information.”

Wallace is among the most enthusiastic public supporters of Ukraine, and has consistently expressed certainty that it would prevail in the conflict with Russia.

During the parliamentary debate on Tuesday, the minister claimed that the measures formulated by his office would allow the UK to obtain military capabilities faster and be more agile in deploying them globally. Britain’s activities would be linked to those of its allies, he insisted.

“In the future, we will be allied by design and national by exception. Our support for NATO will remain ironclad,” Wallace pledged.

Moscow has blamed NATO’s expansion for triggering hostilities with Ukraine. By supplying weapons to Kiev, the US and its allies are prolonging the conflict but will not change its outcome, Russian officials have said. Moscow also accused the British government of being instrumental in derailing peace talks with Ukraine last year.

Meanwhile

“West ‘lucky’ that Ukrainians are dying on its behalf – Zelensky aide

Dot
Dot
July 19, 2023 11:33 pm

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Lysander
Jul 19, 2023 2:54 PM

A 42-year-old prisoner charged over the death of a fellow inmate at Hakea Prison — who was due to be sentenced for luring a little girl to his house — has admitted to his murder.

The murderer is also a pedo.

A good reason to not cheer on this “let prisoners kill other prisoners” nonsense.

It is one clear case where CP would be legitimate if guilt could be proven beyond any doubt without any mitigating factors.

Dot
Dot
July 19, 2023 11:37 pm

I think someone said this afternoon that Nigel Farage’s balance dipped below the required amount for the hoity-toity bank he was banking with.

I have heard tell of required minimum amounts for some institutions.

Thankfully, we can all rest assured he wasn’t ‘cancelled’ by Big Bank and the Cartels and the Lizard Overlords/R-child people due to his moderate conservative views.

The required amount in Australia may be a fee of $10 a month – hence $10.

If it was a merchant back or similar; he might have taken a capital loss recently. I suspect it is political fuggery. What minimums do they require? If his chequing (what Australians for some unexplained reason, call a “savings” account) was being used for margin lending, uummm?

Dot
Dot
July 19, 2023 11:39 pm

LOL. Hitting a legitimate logistics and supply target in time of war is terrorism? Pull the other one.

This is one reason why I discount Russian milbloggers, they are discrediting themselves with this hyperbolic rubbish. They’d be much more credible if they played a straight bat.

Yes, it is rather silly. Ed Case could be writing the “sit reps”.

Dot
Dot
July 19, 2023 11:46 pm

I asked jokingly if the reason they stopped me was because of the beard and the black bag

Perhaps you look like Dusty Hill?

calli
calli
July 19, 2023 11:54 pm

Yes, it is rather silly.

An underused meme.

MatrixTransform
July 19, 2023 11:56 pm

Perhaps you look like Dusty Hill?

er … not actually from WA you know

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
July 20, 2023 12:05 am

Press the record button and walk. These raw clips are perfect snap shots in time. It’s fun watching people spin out when they clap eyes on the dog.

Cash:

Cash 2.0 Great Dane meeting new people in Santa Monica 88

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 20, 2023 12:08 am

Knuckle Dragger

Jul 19, 2023 11:15 PM

Apologies Doverlord.

Forgot about the R word.

Just use the phrase “International Bankers”.
Speaking of that sort of thing, someone mentioned that it is coming up two years since this august weblog was launched.
Kudos to Dover for not only keeping the hamsters fed, but also keeping the scourge of “International Bankers” at bay, along with a couple of other hysterical grifters from Sinc blog.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 20, 2023 12:09 am

And, with that fuse lit, it’s goodnight from him.

calli
calli
July 20, 2023 12:18 am

August 4 is the blog birthday. A fine achievement given the stupid times we live in. Everyone appears to have found their niche, here or elsewhere.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
July 20, 2023 4:22 am

Both of you can now carry on as you will. I just needed to clear up the ‘stalking’ issue.

Well, ferk you, Saint Delta. You can hold those views of me and that’s fine, tell us some more about your cooking and your wonderful family and how much they all love you and your wise advice, but you have cleared nothing up at all. Johanna has absolutely stalked me, in such appalling detail (and far more actually) as I have added in a piece below your comment, for more than ten years here now. That is much more egregious than saying, as you do, that you don’t like me much, if at all. Horses for courses there, my dear, after you took offense at something I apparently said about your leg and I haven’t got a clue in the world what that was, apologising anyway, as I don’t like being offensive to people.

I speak of my life as it is, as I live it day by day, in all of the autism chaos that you claim to know so much about, fixing things where I can and doing my best. Am I never to speak of as my life here in that regard, while others may feel free to merrily carry on about their days? I think self-satisfied middle class people such as you, who have had every opportunity in life, who do not deal with the mental illnesses and other issues that I have had surrounding me, have a great deal of hide to make comments such as you do about me.

I ask you, Delta, to imagine being labelled with the narrative of smears and untruths and then the doxxing that the stalker has pushed on to me in her fixated attacks, which always come unasked and unwarranted by anything that I have said, only prompted by her hostility to my seeming good luck in life. I could do the same illustration for you that I did to show Bushkid how unpleasant such fabrications and nastinesses are, but one example is quite enough.

My husband says he can no longer come in here to check what is happening to me on this blog. He finds it extremely distressing and naturally doesn’t want me on it, as has happened in the past when everything has been soured by yet another of this vicious fixated female’s attacks. This time however I refused to be cowed. I will answer back not, as I said to Tom, crawl down a hole wounded. My husband wants me to give her a hearty ‘feck you, you stupid bitch’ back every time she attacks, and to regard the upticks as sheer fabrications rather than see a problem with the people here. However, clearly there is a problem with a lot of the people here. I explain to him that any retorts simply encourage a stoush, stoush, onya girls, mentality here. I’ve had years of saying stop your vile attacks. I am not going to leave this blog, nor change how I am here, and I intend to continue on as usual, except that I will not write travelogues any more.

Tom’s comment to me has put me right off that.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
July 20, 2023 4:42 am

Tom, while I am here and insomniac and your toons are soon coming up, let me say something about misogyny, which KD found a surprising inclusion when it occurred in deliberate rant I offered.

My father was a difficult man, and as with these things, they continue down generations. I have not escaped from the past he inflicted on me, and he did not escape from that he suffered as a child. When ‘naughty’, as this very bright child was, he was locked in a dark coal cellar with the rats and cockroaches. As an adolescent he made crystal radios, which his father threw out saying the devil would come down the aerial. He had some minor technical education and ended up a foreman in a car factory at Rolls Royce in Coventry at that time when Lord Beaverbrook poached all of the good ones to work on the Merlin engine. My father was instrumental in solving a major problem with it, but when he was sent to Australia to help with Spitfire production and the atomic bomb ended the need for such planes (there were graveyards of them) he started out on his own. His personality was bipolar with huge ups and downs, and life with him was difficult. He obsessed about ‘petticoat government’ within the family with a wife and two daughters and one younger son.
He was born in 1910 and was of Victorian generation in his attitudes to women. In his increasingly black moods he would rail against us three and for me and my sister, take it out on us with a ‘clip around the earhole’. Eventually he took to holding a knife; and we left.

Tom, no ‘clip’ of his, which could be fierce and bruising, ever hurt me more than the clip around the earhole you made to me recently on this thread, literally sending me off, with a nasty epithet attached. It hurt because it was you. I’d shrug off others. You and I go back a long way, to the days of Bunyipitude. I had thought better of you. You reminded me of my father. Brutal, and very male, in a very old-fashioned and not good way. OK, so I annoyed you. Didn’t deserve that.

I’ve been beaten about in my life by more men than my father, and still have faith in good men like Hairy. I had you pegged as one of the good sort, encouraging and friendly. Not so. Simply joining in with the mob.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
July 20, 2023 5:11 am

This can all die now on the old thread.

I’m going back to bed, to wake as today’s woman not yesterday’s.

A word about that from Christopher Brennan, always a favorite of mine on my birthday recalling the journey so far.

Ye have built you unmysterious homes and ways in the wood
where of old ye went with sudden eyes to the right and left;
and your going was now made safe and your staying comforted,
for the forest edge itself, holding old savagery
in unsearch’d glooms, was your houses’ friendly barrier.
And now that the year goes winterward, ye thought to hide
behind your gleaming panes, and where the hearth sings merrily
make cheer with meat and wine, and sleep in the long night,
and the uncared wastes might be a crying unhappiness.
But I, who have come from the outer night, I say to you
the winds are up and terribly will they shake the dry wood:
the woods shall awake, hearing them, shall awake to be toss’d and riven,
and make a cry and a parting in your sleep all night
as the wither’d leaves go whirling all night along all ways.
And when ye come forth at dawn, uncomforted by sleep,
ye shall stand at amaze, beholding all the ways overhidden
with worthless drift of the dead and all your broken world:
and ye shall not know whence the winds have come, nor shall ye know
whither the yesterdays have fled, or if they were.

Anchor What
Anchor What
July 20, 2023 6:44 am

I’ve always liked you Lizzie, in my various noms de clef. We should meet elsewhere, as I am also an absent one, tired of this circular firing squad. Get Pogria’s email if you want a third party character reference.

Davey Boy
Davey Boy
July 20, 2023 7:41 am

the horror

the horror

h/t Mr Kurtz

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