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Napoleon at Brienne, Jacques Marie Gaston Onfroy de Breville, 1908

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MatrixTransform
September 13, 2023 6:06 pm

bin Laden had trained as an engineer

I rented an apartment to a couple of Saudis for a while
both grad students
both fiercely intelligent

to know how things work
one needs to also know how they fail

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
September 13, 2023 6:12 pm

So many people continue to rely on past events stored in their brain from MSM television.

P
P
September 13, 2023 6:14 pm

DrBeauGan
Sep 13, 2023 5:09 PM

It’s an educational failure. The teachers haven’t let their students discover their inadequacies. It’s gone on for generations now, and too late to fix it. We’re finished. All civilisations fall apart eventually; all we can do is enjoy the decadence.

Having just spoken to my youngest 5th grade grandchild today on his 11th birthday, I congratulated him on winning the school spelling competition against the the 6th graders as well. He advised me he only just won because if he’d been given the word spelled incorrectly by his last opponent (a girl) then he’d have lost. He said to me he was just lucky.

My grandson who is in yr11 tells me there will be a shift back to the right which he calls the Conservative Youth Revolution.

I’ll continue to look to the younger generation and listen.

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 13, 2023 6:16 pm

Aye. One need only look at Patrick Cripps last year. The Brownlow shouldn’t be in his possession.

The odour of koala bear was strong that night.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 13, 2023 6:18 pm

Oh noes.

Heatwave could smash September weather records for Melbourne, Sydney within days (Sky News mainpage headline,13 Sep)

Over the coming days, temperatures are set to soar for millions of Australians.

Summer-like conditions will take hold in two waves, and even though we aren’t through the first round of hot temperatures, we are already starting to look at the second round.

This is because we are likely to see some of the hottest temperatures over the next couple of weeks.

The heat that builds in through the end of the weekend and into next week could rival September temperature records in some of our capital cities.

Adelaide and areas of South Australia are likely to see temperatures heighten into Monday.

Currently, Adelaide is forecasted to see a high of 29C

How horrifying is that, 29 C! Last week I was amused to look at the local Ncl forecast which said we’d get to 24 C. The peak that day was 20.8 C at the nearest BoM weather station.

The models are getting increasingly out of kilter with reality. So is Newscorp.

calli
calli
September 13, 2023 6:21 pm

I know, Bruce. Still running the RCAC. Bring on the Dreadful Heat!

Top Ender
Top Ender
September 13, 2023 6:24 pm

More on the Qantas Chairman’s Lounge rolling disaster, even from the ABC

Diogenes
Diogenes
September 13, 2023 6:29 pm

My grandson who is in yr11 tells me there will be a shift back to the right which he calls the Conservative Youth Revolution.

All around school today were chalked messages “there are only 2 genders” . I know who did it, but I am staying schtum despite appeals for info.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 13, 2023 6:30 pm

Wabbit season.

Victorian Labor Party could lose seats if Premier Daniel Andrews bans duck hunting following key recommendation (Sky News, 13 Sep)

Local politics seems somewhat cartoonish lately. Maybe the wiley Mr Andrews should stop buying stuff from ACME.

MatrixTransform
September 13, 2023 6:31 pm

Trickles

personally I’m satisfied that there’s a likely and rational explanation.

I’m also happy to explore other theories and cant see the harm in interrogating all of them

the Duk said something stinks and I think that’s still true.
likely, we’ll never know for sure

In my working life I get all the hard problems.
The intractable ones.
The ones where every monkey has had a go at it.

When its weird and nobody can work it out then almost always it isnt one single thing, there are often multiple modes
usually goes all the way back to bad engineering assumptions

in the WTC case, I have to draw the line at vapourizing steel

on that one

… bit of a yeah … but nah thing

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
September 13, 2023 6:32 pm

My grandson who is in yr11 tells me there will be a shift back to the right which he calls the Conservative Youth Revolution.

With the destruction of our energy supplies on the basis of idiotic theories about anthropogenic global warming, and the wrecking of our education system by loonie lefties, the conservative youth revolution isn’t going to have much to conserve.

Civilisational collapse doesn’t happen overnight, so there’s still time for BoN to enjoy his Grant Burge. But if your technocrats can’t add 1/2 to 1/3, they won’t be able to maintain a technic civilisation. Once the underpinnings fail, the collapse is inevitable. Like the trade centre, just a lot slower.

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 13, 2023 6:35 pm

My grandson who is in yr11 tells me there will be a shift back to the right which he calls the Conservative Youth Revolution.

The yoof (at least some of them) know they are being screwed on housing.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
September 13, 2023 6:36 pm

Thomas Mayo, enthusiastic No campaigner think Unions should use their right of entry powers to convince workers to vote Yes. Naturally he was talking to his thug mates from the CFMMEU.

See Daily Telegraph article

MatrixTransform
September 13, 2023 6:38 pm

add 1/2 to 1/3

8.333333333333333333333333333333333 ?

MatrixTransform
September 13, 2023 6:38 pm

doh … !
0.833333333333

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 13, 2023 6:38 pm

Duck hunting in Victoriastan is like Australia Day and horse racing during cup week. Just part of the swampy year.

calli
calli
September 13, 2023 6:39 pm

Chuckle. There are a million and one ways to cock up a building project. And, yes, you can’t rule out multiples, as that’s the usual way.

And when it’s boiled down…it’s always “someone else’s job”.

A bit like governing a country.

MatrixTransform
September 13, 2023 6:42 pm

screwed on housing

it’s like a vertical barracks work-farm

imagine having two kids and living up the 4th floor in a poxy tilt-slab beside the train line for 20 years

calli
calli
September 13, 2023 6:42 pm

Awwww…I’ve found another common denominator!

Of the Pavlovian, downtick variety.

Crossie
Crossie
September 13, 2023 6:45 pm

My grandson who is in yr11 tells me there will be a shift back to the right which he calls the Conservative Youth Revolution.

I’ll continue to look to the younger generation and listen.

P, I think your grandson is right. Kids need something to rebel against and the only way they can go is right. We have just about reached the degenerate and permissive extreme.

calli
calli
September 13, 2023 6:45 pm

You can almost count the seconds between Rover Boy’s refreshes.

😀

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 13, 2023 6:45 pm

Fish in a barrel news.

Russia’s Navy Port At Sevastopol On Fire After Massive Ukraine Missile Attack (13 Sep)

It’s always been the problem for the Russians: the Black Sea is more like a lake than a sea. The Turks by comparison could always withdraw their fleet into the Med, but the Russian Black Sea Fleet can’t do that. It was only a few weeks ago that Ukrainian sea-drones nearly sank a large Russian naval ship in Novorossiysk on the far side of the Black Sea. The Russian Black Sea Fleet is going to be history fairly soon, it looks like, killed by drones.

Drone warfare is rapidly advancing in this war. I suspect, as usual, we’ll get left behind.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
September 13, 2023 6:47 pm

History as we know it is a lie. There was clearly a more advanced civilization going in the past.

Was Henry Kissinger trolling when his book, World Order featured Tartaria on the book cover?

So many questions.

—–

Jarid Boosters:

Today we will take a look through some of the earliest, and rarest, photographs of Venice, Italy. These images will be from an assortment of sources, however, the bulk of these images will date to before the year 1900, and come to us from the collections of 19th century photographer Carlo Ponti.

What stands out to me in these photographs is the cleanliness of the city, which has a history dating back numerous centuries. We will discuss briefly Carlo Ponti, his contributions to photography, and his inventions. We will then dive deeper into the current accepted history of Venice. Many of the buildings, and their facades, appear to be brand new, or freshly renovated in these 19th century images.

As always, I thank you so much for joining me today, and I look forward to hearing your thoughts and ideas about Venice, Carlo Ponti, and the Old World photographs in the comment section down below!

Pre-1900 Venice, Italy: Photographs by Carlo Ponti; Alethoscope & The “Great Council” [Old World]

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
September 13, 2023 6:49 pm

doh … !
0.833333333333

Wrong. It’s 5/6.

Crossie
Crossie
September 13, 2023 6:53 pm

H B Bear
Sep 13, 2023 6:35 PM
My grandson who is in yr11 tells me there will be a shift back to the right which he calls the Conservative Youth Revolution.

The yoof (at least some of them) know they are being screwed on housing.

My granddaughter is not a happy camper. Now that she is working and the car paid off she was hoping to save for a deposit for a unit but with rising prices she doesn’t see it happening for many years.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 13, 2023 6:53 pm

Alan Clark, in “Barbarossa” tells the story of Marshal of the Soviet Union , S.M. Budenny, as First Deputy Commissar for Defense in 1940, visiting the newly annexed province of Bessarabia. A party was given in his honor at a local distillery. Towards the close of festivities, a canvas screen was ripped off the largest vat, which had been filled, one and a half meter’s deep, with red wine. A number of naked girls were disporting themselves, in said vat. Budenny and his aides threw off their clothes and joined the girls in the vat. The baccalia gathered momentum, until another guest, disgruntled at not being able to climb in, fired a long burst at it with a sub-machine gun. Three of the occupants were wounded, and the orgy moved to more comfortable quarters at the back of the building.

I don’t remember any such conduct at dining in nights in the A.D.F, have any other Cats heard such stories?

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
September 13, 2023 6:53 pm

Wet day, dry clothes for supplier run into town, overdue for a haircut-
into the walk-up Barber Shop who have been there forever, seats and scissors-
$38.
Sheesh.

MatrixTransform
September 13, 2023 6:53 pm

Wrong. It’s 5/6

can’t be wrong … I used the calculator in Google

Crossie
Crossie
September 13, 2023 6:56 pm

calli
Sep 13, 2023 6:21 PM
I know, Bruce. Still running the RCAC. Bring on the Dreadful Heat!

I’m still using heating as I seem to feel the cold more these days. The electricity bill is eye watering though.

Real Deal
Real Deal
September 13, 2023 6:56 pm

Incontrovertible proof that DEWs have been planned for years.

https://youtu.be/Ei_GZnrr1nw?si=9KV442c8yvlR4kLx

The Alan Parsons Project did Eye in the Sky. That was a deliberate hint, folks.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
September 13, 2023 6:56 pm

Most tourists walking in Venice wouldn’t haven’t a clue what’s beneath their feet. They just want to talk about a menu at their favourite cafe.

Dot
Dot
September 13, 2023 7:00 pm

Jarid Boosters

All this proves is that we live in a rather cheeky simulation with an incurable Dad joke sense of humour.

Indolent
Indolent
September 13, 2023 7:05 pm
DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
September 13, 2023 7:05 pm

can’t be wrong … I used the calculator in Google

There’s your mistake.

My Hipercalc says 0.83 with a bar over the 3. And it gives 5/6. 🙂

MatrixTransform
September 13, 2023 7:08 pm

And it gives 5/6

pht … so lame … it’s rounding

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 13, 2023 7:09 pm

Everyone knows that beneath the streets and gondolas of Venice lie tunnels.

Tunnels, full of lizard people disguised as the British Royal Family and wearing red leather shoes.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
September 13, 2023 7:11 pm

MatrixTransform
Sep 13, 2023 6:31 PM

in the WTC case, I have to draw the line at vapourizing steel

on that one

Watch the vision FFS. Did you?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 13, 2023 7:11 pm

Once drew Russia in a play by mail game of Diplomacy. In those days there was quite a subculture of such things, with zines giving the progress of several games at a time.

So, as you do I did in the first turn the usual F Sev – BLA. But I’d negotiated with the Turks and convinced him that we could do the Juggernaut. It’s a Russo-Turkish alliance to sweep westward like the Mongols (see Richard Sharp’s marvelous book The Game Of Diplomacy, which I found one day deep in bowels of the Fisher Library.) Very hard to stop.

With a bit of carrot dangling the Italians came on board, but they never seemed to get anywhere. Nor did the Turks, it was a mystery. When the dagger went in Turkey melted like snow in the Sahara. 😀

Kennedy and Kissinger used to play Diplomacy in the White House. Damn fine boardgame.

MatrixTransform
September 13, 2023 7:11 pm

left over paella

extra fried prawns, chorizo and garlic with sherry vinegar and coriander

salad of cos, shallot, and orange segments with a mustard and white wine vinaigrette

back in 20 minutes

actually no … gonna watch Greyhound

Siltstone
Siltstone
September 13, 2023 7:13 pm

Which ALPBC plonkers have their snouts in the Chairmans Lounge trough? Transparency please Ita.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
September 13, 2023 7:16 pm

I have to draw the line at vapourizing steel.

Yet all the vision suggests otherwise.

Funny that.

All the people gobbling up the MSM narrative expands.

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 13, 2023 7:18 pm

Now that she is working and the car paid off she was hoping to save for a deposit for a unit but with rising prices she doesn’t see it happening for many years.

Without some form of inheritance getting into housing without being able to make a dent in the principal really just leaves you reliant on capital gains and inflation. Unfortunately without the discipline of a mortgage all too easy to keep consuming income without any real assets to show for it – like mUnty.

Indolent
Indolent
September 13, 2023 7:19 pm

This is truly enlightening. Tucker takes less than 5 minutes to explain in a completely plausible way why Trump is so hated by the PTB, and probably also his popularity with the man in the street.

*MUST WATCH* Tucker SHOCKS The Crowd When He says This about Donald Trump & The Deep State..

calli
calli
September 13, 2023 7:21 pm

What is under Venice? A massive foundation of oak piles, gradually petrifying and…sinking. Marvellous that it has lasted so long.

I’d love to return to see the wonders, but not in the rain.

Twenty two years ago + a week, I had it all to myself. The streets almost deserted. An early morning walk, watching all the day’s produce landed by boat, shuttered windows opening, the tiny city coming to life.

Dot
Dot
September 13, 2023 7:21 pm

I have to draw the line at vapourizing steel.

Yet all the vision suggests otherwise.

What “vision”, dolt?

Burning steel? No.

The autogenous grinding was explained to your before as well.

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 13, 2023 7:21 pm

Easy on the chorizo.

Roger
Roger
September 13, 2023 7:26 pm

Without some form of inheritance getting into housing without being able to make a dent in the principal really just leaves you reliant on capital gains and inflation.

And the population ponzi.

500 000 this year, reportedly.

Huzzah!

Peter Greagg
Peter Greagg
September 13, 2023 7:28 pm

Zulu
Just downloaded this to my Kindle, so thanks for the tip.
Keen to compare it to Anthony Beevor’s book on WW2 (which you may have recommended?).
Peter

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Sep 13, 2023 6:53 PM
Alan Clark, in “Barbarossa” ………

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 13, 2023 7:28 pm

What is under Venice?

The canals are very deep.

Fine movie!

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
September 13, 2023 7:34 pm

Dot is suggesting the vision of the steel supports filmed on camera doesn’t exist, even though I posted the vision above.

The autogenous grinding was explained to your before as well.

Pure wank!

Dot is a troll … do you want to address the cars in the parking lot?

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 13, 2023 7:39 pm

Population Ponzi working well for Meriton, Toll, Colesworths and Big Corporate generally. They are not stuck in traffic.

Dot
Dot
September 13, 2023 7:42 pm

Trickler

Did you drop out of school before Year 9? You seem like a very dumb fellow.

do you want to address the cars in the parking lot

Maybe you can explain how the space lasers fried them too.

Indolent
Indolent
September 13, 2023 7:43 pm
Steve trickler
Steve trickler
September 13, 2023 7:44 pm

The building at the beginning. Anyone that thinks it was constructed in two years?

No effin way.

Old World Richmond?

Indolent
Indolent
September 13, 2023 7:45 pm
Steve trickler
Steve trickler
September 13, 2023 7:47 pm

Dot
Sep 13, 2023 7:42 PM

The dumb F8ck MSM gobbler is you.

MatrixTransform
September 13, 2023 7:50 pm

And it gives 5/6

ooh… it does too !!

and it does different radix.

like !!

Dot
Dot
September 13, 2023 7:53 pm

The building at the beginning. Anyone that thinks it was constructed in two years?

Yes.

If it was BS you could read newspaper articles about it in 1903 and 1905.

Unless you believe that America was a giant sham the European powers all agreed to hide the “secret Moorish and Templar history!” of the Americas.

Richmond has newspapers going back to 1815.

Your silly fantasies are easy to point and laugh at.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 13, 2023 7:54 pm

Labor refuses to rule out brutal new taxes | Question Time

I can hear Albanese already “An inheritance tax will only hit the Tories. It will only hit the big end of town. It won’t hit the “battlers” – Labor’s always looked after the battlers!”

My hairy aunt!

Pogria
Pogria
September 13, 2023 7:54 pm

Did any cats watch the Peta Credlin, Jacinta Price interview this evening?
It was enthralling. Tomorrow night on Credlin will be a documentary produced in part, by Jacinta about the reality lived by the Aborigines in country.
Not to be missed. Jacinta just becomes stronger and stronger the more evil is thrown her way. Some filthy turd published her phone number so you can imagine the threats and vile filth that has been left on her phone.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
September 13, 2023 7:57 pm

Dot
Sep 13, 2023 7:53 PM

Again, you gobble up the narrative like a dry sponge to water.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
September 13, 2023 7:58 pm

ooh… it does too !!

Hipercalc also does complex arithmetic. When asked to choose a number between zero and ten, my favourite is i^{-i}.

Indolent
Indolent
September 13, 2023 7:58 pm

Creating the “science” to support their wishes.

Anti-ULEZ Assembly Member DESTROYS Sadiq Khan’s Deputy

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 13, 2023 8:01 pm

Direct energy space laser vaporising death rays were of course invented and designed by Basil Zemplas and the 6PR marketing team.

That was after they produced the amnesia guns made famous in Men In Black.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
September 13, 2023 8:04 pm

Knuckle Dragger
Sep 13, 2023 8:01 PM
Direct energy space laser vaporising death rays were of course invented and designed by Basil Zemplas and the 6PR marketing team.

That was after they produced the amnesia guns made famous in Men In Black.

Spam.

Tom
Tom
September 13, 2023 8:05 pm

Did any cats watch the Peta Credlin, Jacinta Price interview this evening?
It was enthralling.

Yes!

Price was compelling and activists like Marcia Langton came across as loudmouth bigots totally out of touch with mainstream Australia.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 13, 2023 8:06 pm

I can hear Albanese already “An inheritance tax will only hit the Tories. It will only hit the big end of town.

To be fair someone mentioned death duties and the ALP ran away screaming yesterday. Which means they know it’s the hottest hot button issue in voterland.

‘Not on the agenda’: Labor Senator denies government is considering inheritance tax idea raised by new productivity commission head (Sky News, 12 Sep)

The Albanese government has strongly denied it is considering imposing an inheritance tax, with Labor’s Deborah O’Neill declaring it is “absolutely… not on the agenda”.

They wants it, gollum gollum.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 13, 2023 8:07 pm

I can hear Albanese already

Arrrggh, of course an inheritance tax won’t apply to investment properties owned by Labor Front benchers – you earned that money…

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 13, 2023 8:08 pm

Looks like the problems at ALPBC Radio are wider than just Vitrioli. Perf radio has parachuted the stand- in TV weather dweb into Afternoons. Lately they just drop producers in as presenters. Seems ALPBC listeners are quite that rusted on.

Pogria
Pogria
September 13, 2023 8:13 pm

Three cheers for the Awesome Kamahl.

He’s voting NO, and has memed Farnham’s Your the Voice. Has placed his own spin on it. 😀

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 13, 2023 8:16 pm

Yet again I find myself asking that our Lord Mayor be afforded due respect. My colleague, Fat Cat, assures me he is delightful.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 13, 2023 8:18 pm

To be fair someone mentioned death duties and the ALP ran away screaming yesterday.

“I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again for the benefit of the Opposition – there’ll be no Capital Gains Tax under a Labor Government.” The Right Honorable Robert “Blubbering Bob” Hawke.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
September 13, 2023 8:25 pm

I received a text message from Jacinta Price today reminding me to vote No and check out why. We’ve applied for postal votes but unlikely they will be delivered in time.
We applied in the first hour they were out.

I am exhausted today. Dance class, quite a drive to get there, coffee with the girls, then a hunt for a JP to sign a Stat Dec re my autistic son. There was a JP in this shopping centre yesterday, said a girlfriend, but he fell off his chair and they had to call an ambulance. That’s because most JP’s are retired old public serpents. Why there can’t be a better system of getting a form signed I don’t know, rather than relying on old age pensioners belonging to some arcane club turning up at libraries or shopping centres to pour over documents and stamp them once they’ve seen your ID. Every post office could do it. For a fee too if necessary. We trust them with the mail don’t we? Instead, we search out these aged folk who keep Biden’s sort of hours, and urgent documents can go hang.

Then I have email converse with my ex about our autistic son and he sends me a tract on how the planet is exploding with the Dreadful Heat which my galivanting around the earth is doing nothing to ameliorate. Too effing bad, I reply, in a more moderated tone than that, but you all know what my deep dark thoughts really were.

Aaron
Aaron
September 13, 2023 8:25 pm

Imagine spending 100mil and forgetting to pay for Marcia Langton’s bile duct removing.

Old Lefty
Old Lefty
September 13, 2023 8:28 pm

The best advice I could give your granddaughter, Crossie, is to put her spare money while she is trying to work up a deposit into a good share fund. At least she’ll get some capital growth over the medium to long term which may help her to keep up. The interest rates on cash deposits are still below the rate of inflation.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
September 13, 2023 8:36 pm

I did make some conversation about the Federation drought, and the many bushfires of previous years starting at 1840 or before and extending to the recent conflagrations; conflagrations which it seems Sydney is now trying to halt, given the choking smoke through Sydney on this beautiful calm day as back burning proceeds, not apace though, as they are heaps behind schedule for the vast acreage to be done.

Effing trees. My greenie neighbours are giving me the tom-tits about the sounds of chains saws coming from our place yesterday. Oh the poor trees, etc. Well, that huge cypress was actually under the foundations of our building, I point out, planted as an ornamental fifty years ago, and the other one was dead for twenty feet up in the throng of trees on our property; only the green top showed any life. Oh, but it was green, they moan. Tough titty, I say. I am all admiration for the young man who single-handedly took them out, for paltry cash. Such skill in dropping trees is rare.
And he knows the name of every tree on the place, such scholarship as is not often seen. Luckily, he hates cypress trees.

JC
JC
September 13, 2023 8:38 pm

Bogan.

There have always been ignorant nitwits in the pubs pontificating on things they knew nothing about. Informed people ignored it. The problems arise when the ‘elites’ are also ignorant nitwits. Such is now the case.

But are you sure you’re counting correctly? We hear the squeals of the “elites” you’re referring to more often because they are the loudest and get the most airtime on msm. You should be concerned about the reserved people. These are the people who are quiet about their opinions, etc.

I’ll use an illustration. I have a close relationship with a younger individual who works for one of the major US IT companies – in fact probably the largest. Outside, there is constant talk about how left-wing they are and how the staff are proud supporters of the deranged left. Even though the majority lean left, this person believes that the people s/he works with are split roughly 60/40. Right-leaning people are mute and never voice their opinions. A few people mumble that they back Trump. Don’t think that the loudest suggests the rest are leftwing loons.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 13, 2023 8:47 pm

Imagine spending 100mil and forgetting to pay for Marcia Langton’s bile duct removing.

Marcia Langton sees herself as having a future in the Voice.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
September 13, 2023 8:49 pm

A very impressive intro with those flags. Doing that in Australia would cause outrage!

Cash!

woof bark growl:

Cash 2.0 Great Dane at Ride To The Flags 2023 Malibu Bluffs Park (1 of 3)

shatterzzz
September 13, 2023 8:51 pm

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Sep 13, 2023 6:53 PM
Alan Clark, in “Barbarossa” ………

I picked a pristine condition copy of it up in the local Vinnies for $2 last week …

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 13, 2023 8:54 pm

Chris Dawson’s former student sues NSW over her sexual abuse
By Georgina Mitchell and Michaela Whitbourn
September 13, 2023 — 4.47pm

The former schoolgirl with whom convicted wife killer Chris Dawson had an unlawful sexual relationship is suing the state of NSW for damages, claiming it failed to protect her from being groomed and sexually abused by the Cromer High School teacher.

In documents filed in the NSW Supreme Court, the woman alleges she fell pregnant in about 1981, at the age of 16, “and had an abortion at the instruction of Dawson, which he paid for”.

JC
JC
September 13, 2023 8:56 pm

One more thing Doc.

Ironically, someone here, who I typically don’t think too highly of, once said something that has always stuck with me as being quite interesting and insightful. He noted that practically all of Europe’s nations experienced extremely turbulent political times after World War One, possibly starting with Italy and the fascists and ending with the Nazis. These two may have been the most loudest, but even the UK experienced a left-wing phase at that time. Roosevelt’s America in the 1930s was mad. For instance, because pork prices had fallen, the US actually had to kill off a sizable portion of its swineherd. It was compelled by the early Roosevelt administration. In the early years, corporatism was very much on the rise in the US.

Now consider how good things were in the Western world during the go-go years following World War 2 up to the turn of the century. We simply experience ebbs and flows. The good times will return.

JC
JC
September 13, 2023 9:00 pm

Pogria
Sep 13, 2023 7:54 PM

Did any cats watch the Peta Credlin, Jacinta Price interview this evening?

No but I received this text from “her” over dinner this evening.

Hi, it’s Jacinta Price. The Referendum is on 14 Oct. This Voice is risky, unknown and divisive. Don’t know? Say no. For a postal vote go to https://postal.vote

I have no idea how they got my number.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 13, 2023 9:01 pm

I picked a pristine condition copy of it up in the local Vinnies for $2 last week …

Enjoy the reading!

Old Lefty
Old Lefty
September 13, 2023 9:06 pm

Interesting that the ABC has now discovered the story of exploitation of students at Cromer High. Not a word of acknowledgement, of course, to Hedley Thomas who was onto it four years ago.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-09-13/chris-dawson-student-sues-state-for-failure-to-stop-sexual-abuse/102851590

Rosie
Rosie
September 13, 2023 9:10 pm

Most tourists walking in Venice wouldn’t haven’t a clue what’s beneath their feet. They just want to talk about a menu at their favourite cafe.

How would you know what tourists talk about and what is beneath Venice?
I suggest you pop over and share your theories with the locals who know the history of their city very well.
Venice by the way is made up of 118 islands.

Boambee John
Boambee John
September 13, 2023 9:18 pm

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Sep 13, 2023 8:47 PM
Imagine spending 100mil and forgetting to pay for Marcia Langton’s bile duct removing.

Marcia Langton sees herself as having a future in the Voice.

An article in Quadrant Online includes extracts from the “other” 25 pages of the Uluru statement from the activists. The quotes make it pretty clear that most of the writing is a reflection of the desires of those activists, with minimal input from the wider indig community.

They all see themselves as parts of the future “Voice”.

Rosie
Rosie
September 13, 2023 9:19 pm

What’s really hilarious about the tartarian nonsense is its focus on architecture.
As though western civilisation with its medical, artistic, musical, mathematical, philosophical, scientific, physics, mining, water management, engineering, literature, and so many other discoveries, inventions and innovations developed over more than 2000 years somehow failed in the 19th century and couldn’t knock together a few buildings for world fairs.

Cassie of Sydney
September 13, 2023 9:20 pm

So, today Maria Marcia Marcia, in the wash up of her comments about NO voters being racist and dumb, has tried desperately to backtrack on her remarks, and she’s also threatened Peter Dutton with legal action.

Feel all da love?

Sleazy and the Liars should never ever have proceeded with this Voice referendum. We here know this. There’s no way a Hawke or Keating would have touched such a proposition with a barge pole. This Voice claptrap has always been, at its core, about division, about hate, about spite, about lots of money, about vengeance, and about pushing radical leftist policies. Even from its inception, from the so called nonsense that is the “Uluru from the Heart” babble back in 2017, oh and what does “from the heart” mean? It’s just feel good, weasel, shallow words that remind me of a Byron Bay wicca retreat for very wealthy adolescent sixty year olds desperate to try and find meaning in their lives. So, it begs the question, why have Labor pursued this? Well, firstly I suspect they’ve gone all gung ho with it it because they swallowed the May 2022 election result, and they thought the proposal would be an easy-peasy win for them. They were also further emboldened by the Aston by-election win earlier this year. But what I find interesting and disturbing is that Sleazy refuses to distance himself from radicals like Langton and Mayo. He refuses to condemn their rhetoric which means he agrees with the rhetoric of “racists” and “dumb”. Hawke or Keating would never, ever have made the mistake of putting radicals like Langton and May at the forefront of such a campaign.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 13, 2023 9:24 pm

An article in Quadrant Online includes extracts from the “other” 25 pages of the Uluru statement from the activists

This one?

https://quadrant.org.au/magazine/2023/09/the-hidden-documents-behind-the-uluru-voice/

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 13, 2023 9:27 pm

There can be no doubt that, clearly set out above, the institution of the Voice entails with it the establishment of a Makarrata Commission and a Truth and Reconciliation Commission.

The plan to set up a Makarrata Commission is bad enough, but the “Truth and Reconciliation Commission to enable all Australians to face the truth of the past” is particularly draconian, in that Document 14 already sets out the historical truth (Our Story), which is the leftist story of invasion, colonisation, dispossession, massacres, genocide, stolen generations and so on, and so it will be required of non-indigenous people to accept that truth, without question. It must logically follow that it will subsequently become a crime to deny that truth, once it is established as the official history of Australia, and we will then have arrived at the realisation of the classic Orwellian thought-crime. So much for democracy and free speech.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
September 13, 2023 9:34 pm

Rosie
Sep 13, 2023 9:19 PM
What’s really hilarious about the tartarian nonsense is its focus on architecture.
As though western civilisation with its medical, artistic, musical, mathematical, philosophical, scientific, physics, mining, water management, engineering, literature, and so many other discoveries, inventions and innovations developed over more than 2000 years somehow failed in the 19th century and couldn’t knock together a few buildings for world fairs.

Another that gobbles up the narrative without critical thought. Much like you offering up you arm for a jab.

Rosie
Rosie
September 13, 2023 9:44 pm

As opposed to the silly as all get out tartarian narrative?

JC
JC
September 13, 2023 9:50 pm

Tickler

I think it was you who talked about how much earlier building structures were built—much sturdier and more solid. Was that you?

Is that really surprising, though, when the accomplishment of the modern age is to do more with much less? Modern structures may not appear comparably sturdy, but these things are being built with much less input, all things being equal.

Also, there was an astounding stat the Fed chairman once gave to Congress in his annual Humphrey Hawkins testimony, which was around the turn of the century.

He said that if you picked up all of the previous year’s GDP and weighed it, it was 25% lighter than GDP in 1970. I can’t recall how many fold US GDP increased from say 1970 to 2002.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
September 13, 2023 9:50 pm

Yep, the buildings were already there. History has been borked for about 300 years. Time lines have been changed. That includes Australia across the board and the World.

There is a big GAP in history.

My Lunch Break:

Ancient Detroit?

MatrixTransform
September 13, 2023 9:59 pm

Watch the vision FFS. Did you?

no, I didn’t

but I’m pretty sure a video won’t provide the tera watts of power necessary to vapourise all that steel

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
September 13, 2023 10:04 pm

JC
Sep 13, 2023 9:50 PM

History in the books is crap. Total wank. Some of the most marvelous constructions in the world goes way way back. I reckon a thousand years back with construction. Talent superior to ours today.

Something is not right. If you wish to quote a rusted on Historian, go for it.

Top Ender
Top Ender
September 13, 2023 10:05 pm

I don’t remember any such conduct at dining in nights in the A.D.F, have any other Cats heard such stories?

Fairly common in my day Zulu, but a pretty low class act using a sub-machine gun.

.50 cal please.

JC
JC
September 13, 2023 10:11 pm

Some of the most marvelous constructions in the world goes way way back. I reckon a thousand years back with construction.

Is it marvelous to a lot but with more, or a lot but with much less? That’s what I was getting at.

JC
JC
September 13, 2023 10:17 pm

to do..

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
September 13, 2023 10:26 pm

JC
Sep 13, 2023 10:11 PM
Some of the most marvelous constructions in the world goes way way back. I reckon a thousand years back with construction.

Is it marvelous to a lot but with more, or a lot but with much less? That’s what I was getting at.

There was a OLD WORLD that built all the constructs. A building firm today wouldn’t know to even begin today. So, we’ve gone backwards.

Point taken with a simplified model. It doesn’t detract that the people of the Old World were superior in all shapes and form.

A modern day Architect wouldn’t know were to start on some of these buildings. They would shit their pants.

Dot
Dot
September 13, 2023 10:37 pm

Something to shove in the face of leftists.

Thanks to John Ray.

—–

The evidence is piling up, just like the victims of communism, communalism, or whatever fake name you want to give it!

“…the Communists everywhere support every revolutionary movement against the existing social and political order of things… They openly declare that their ends can be attained only by the forcible overthrow of all existing social conditions.”

– Karl Marx and Frederick Engels, The Communist Manifesto (Penguin Books, 1985, originally published in 1848), p.120.

It gets worse!

“We would be deceiving both ourselves and the people if we concealed from the masses the necessity of a desperate, bloody war of extermination, as the immediate task of the coming revolutionary action.”

– V.I. Lenin,” Lessons of the Moscow Uprising,” Proletary, No.2, August 1906 (as posted on Marxists.org).

As for violent antisemitism:

What truth is there in this argument? Marx’s essay, On the Jewish Question, originally published in 1844 contains the following:

What is the worldly religion of the Jew? Huckstering. What is his worldly God? Money.…. Money is the jealous god of Israel, in face of which no other god may exist. Money degrades all the gods of man – and turns them into commodities…. The bill of exchange is the real god of the Jew. His god is only an illusory bill of exchange…. The chimerical nationality of the Jew is the nationality of the merchant, of the man of money in general.

Marx argues that, “In the final analysis, the emancipation of the Jews is the emancipation of mankind from Judaism.” Larry Ray explains, “Marx’s position is essentially an assimilationist one in which there is no room within emancipated humanity for Jews as a separate ethnic or cultural identity.” Dennis Fischman puts it, “Jews, Marx seems to be saying, can only become free when, as Jews, they no longer exist.”

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
September 13, 2023 10:39 pm

Let’s build this!

Good f*cking luck. It was already built and people were moved in. Shock!

Old World is Worldwide? | Part 3

JC
JC
September 13, 2023 10:41 pm

A modern day Architect wouldn’t know were to start on some of these buildings. They would shit their pants.

You think? Not this dude, he’s possibly the best. He creates wonders with modern engineering techniques and materials. Calatrava is the best.

https://calatrava.com/projects.html?all=yes

JC
JC
September 13, 2023 10:45 pm
Steve trickler
Steve trickler
September 13, 2023 10:52 pm

JC
Sep 13, 2023 10:45 PM

Muck! ( :

It’s shit … almost p*rno.

JC
JC
September 13, 2023 10:58 pm

Okay, you don’t have to like it, but you can also appreciate the creativity that’s gone into it as well as the amazing engineering. He’s both and engineer and architect. Say you prefer more traditional, older work, but don’t be a barbarian, Tickler.

This Spanish dude is the best there is.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
September 13, 2023 11:01 pm

More engineering has gone into ancient temples than that shit.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 13, 2023 11:07 pm

From the WSJ.

Real-estate startup Roam looks to bring 3% mortgage rates within reach.

Roam, which is set to launch Wednesday, is betting that it can popularize an obscure workaround to a problem for home buyers and sellers alike: mortgage rates that are above 7%. “Assumable loans” allow sellers to transfer their own mortgage loans to the buyer alongside the house. Few consumers know about the option, and fewer still follow through with it. And many lenders are cool to the idea because for them it would mean more work for less money.

The way mortgages are structured (they die when you sell a property & you get a new one when you buy again) is so antiquated.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 13, 2023 11:11 pm

Hard to believe apple are now up to their 9th version of the apple watch.

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 13, 2023 11:26 pm

ftb – that mortgage thing makes sense in the US when rates are rising. Can’t see too many benefits in Oz. I would be surprised if the benefits are anywhere near as great as those stated. The US mortgage market is a very different animal to here, as NAB found out at some expense.

JC
JC
September 13, 2023 11:26 pm

This last attack looks to have involved 10 cruise missiles and NATO assistance.

Well, it’s possible seeing that Russia was intimidating cargo shipping carrying Ukrainian grain. Now US warships are there to stop this terrible Russian childish behavior.

JC
JC
September 13, 2023 11:28 pm

dover0beach
Sep 13, 2023 11:25 PM

What does this one do better?

You’re not interested as you despise Apple products. So why ask. 🙂

John H.
John H.
September 13, 2023 11:30 pm

dover0beach
Sep 13, 2023 11:10 PM
Fish in a barrel news.

Russia’s Navy Port At Sevastopol On Fire After Massive Ukraine Missile Attack (13 Sep)

It’s always been the problem for the Russians: the Black Sea is more like a lake than a sea. The Turks by comparison could always withdraw their fleet into the Med, but the Russian Black Sea Fleet can’t do that. It was only a few weeks ago that Ukrainian sea-drones nearly sank a large Russian naval ship in Novorossiysk on the far side of the Black Sea. The Russian Black Sea Fleet is going to be history fairly soon, it looks like, killed by drones.

This last attack looks to have involved 10 cruise missiles and NATO assistance.

A guess: NATO EW provided targeting for the missiles?

John H.
John H.
September 13, 2023 11:33 pm

Whoops: EW aircraft. My bad, just finished conquering galaxy when I should be looking up Covid impact on fertility for a friend. Material I found last night was disturbing, big hits on sperm count. The inflammation may have caused permanent damage and ACE2 receptors, the spike protein target, very high in testis.

MatrixTransform
September 13, 2023 11:34 pm

apple are now up to their 9th version of the apple watch

Dick Tracey calling hemlock Holmes … the able Sable Fur Company has been robbed

John H.
John H.
September 13, 2023 11:38 pm

Indolent
Sep 13, 2023 9:38 PM
James Woods
@RealJamesWoods

Wait. People were locked out of social media and ridiculed by people from the “party of science” for saying the vaccine causes myocarditis, and now this weasel casually acknowledges we were right all along?

James Woods is erecting a straw man. It was acknowledged the vaccines can cause myocarditis. Many vaccines can cause myocarditis. The strange thing is that sometimes a particular immune molecule that attracts immune cells, CCL2, targets heart muscles. It is not an autoimmune condition. T cells are not the culprit, monocytes and macrophages are.

MatrixTransform
September 13, 2023 11:39 pm

and NATO assistance

not good news

from defending Europe/Ukraine to attacking the Russian Navy

… just like that

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
September 13, 2023 11:44 pm

Putin should wipe out all of Ukraine’s infrastructure right now. F&ck Zelensky.

Hopefully those protecting him will put a bullet in his brain.

MatrixTransform
September 13, 2023 11:46 pm

James Woods is erecting a straw man

no mate … you just erected a straw-man

nice try though

John H.
John H.
September 13, 2023 11:52 pm

MatrixTransform
Sep 13, 2023 11:39 PM
and NATO assistance

not good news

from defending Europe/Ukraine to attacking the Russian Navy

… just like that

I suspect NATO has long had those aircraft over the Black Sea and feeding data to Ukraine. The drone and British RC135 aircraft(surveillance) incident over the Black Sea point to that possibility. Of course nothing can be proved …

JC
JC
September 13, 2023 11:57 pm

Some of their products are very good, I’m just not a fanboy.

You know, I own a IMac which I’ve had since 2016 and it’s running all day everyday. Never a problem. The one before lasted about 8 years. The Mac is great and never had an issue and the iphone 12 same. I also have an Ipad 2 which I never use, but it still appears to work fine.

I have another screen operating Microtheft I use for trading platforms , which is shakey and needs replacing ever couple of years.

My hunch is that we’re not far way from just having a screen as a phone and everything will be on the cloud making smartphones as we know them obsolete.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
September 14, 2023 12:04 am

She is brilliant. Bang!

She had enough of the drunken men.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 14, 2023 12:13 am

Steve trickler

Sep 13, 2023 10:04 PM

JC
Sep 13, 2023 9:50 PM

History in the books is crap. Total wank

All books?
Can you tell me which books are bad?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 14, 2023 12:18 am

JC

Sep 13, 2023 10:45 PM

Look at these chosen as some of his best work.

Man, he loves a cantilever.
There is obviously some serious engineering underneath, but he makes them look so light.

MatrixTransform
September 14, 2023 12:19 am

All books?

stfu sancho

he didnt say ‘all books’

… you did

try to stop being a wanker

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
September 14, 2023 12:21 am

Sancho Panzer
Sep 14, 2023 12:13 AM

Impossible. I haven’t even read paper book on the subject.

People that say Tartaria is fiction are f*ckwits. I am sure of that.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 14, 2023 12:22 am

Steve trickler

Sep 14, 2023 12:21 AM

Sancho Panzer
Sep 14, 2023 12:13 AM

Impossible. I haven’t even read paper book on the subject.

People that say Tartaria is fiction are f*ckwits. I am sure of that

Oh, OK.
My apologies.

Gabor
Gabor
September 14, 2023 12:28 am

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dover0beach
Sep 13, 2023 11:47 PM

You’re not interested as you despise Apple products.

Some of their products are very good, I’m just not a fanboy.

I don’t understand the animosity, I use about 1 % of the capability of my android phone.
What do iPhones do to justify the price?

As to mac computers, when you have to have simulators to run programmes what does it tell you?

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
September 14, 2023 12:31 am

I haven’t even read a paper book on the subject…

Sancho is cool.

Tartaria! It’s was real and global. The genius behind the construction. FMD!

People need to chill out and do their own research.

Gabor
Gabor
September 14, 2023 12:33 am

Steve trickler
Sep 14, 2023 12:21 AM

The candyman banned good people, for no reason other than they upset the woman actually running the show.

In your case he was right, man, you are something else.

John H.
John H.
September 14, 2023 12:49 am

Gabor
Sep 14, 2023 12:28 AM
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dover0beach
Sep 13, 2023 11:47 PM

You’re not interested as you despise Apple products.

Some of their products are very good, I’m just not a fanboy.

I don’t understand the animosity, I use about 1 % of the capability of my android phone.
What do iPhones do to justify the price?

As to mac computers, when you have to have simulators to run programmes what does it tell you?

I was thinking of buying a Mac until I found out that the program where I have 30 years of material stored can’t be emulated through Wine. More importantly there are so few games that can run on Macs!

Robert Sewell
September 14, 2023 9:48 am

Boambee John
Sep 13, 2023 9:18 PM

They all see themselves as parts of the future “Voice”.

They see themselves as the sole representatives of the Aboriginal People, and the arbiters of Aboriginal Culture.

Alamak!
September 14, 2023 10:52 am

And controllers of the rivers if Canbrah $$$$, symbolic and/or political power is not enough.

I’d like to see next government run a royal commission into spending on the indigenous folks to see where money actually goes. That’s a good example of “truth-telling” most Aussies could support

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