Open Thread – Mon 18 Sept 2023


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feelthebern
feelthebern
September 19, 2023 5:11 pm

The QWERTY mob are now demanding a VOICE of their own so they may ADVISE the Government on Qwerty needs.

cohenite has been lobbying for a “cute” owl Voice.

JC
JC
September 19, 2023 5:17 pm

cohenite has been lobbying for a “cute” owl Voice.

CWD, abbrev for chicks with dicks.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 19, 2023 5:19 pm

It’s fun over on the “Sydney Morning Hemorrhoid” website – the howler monkey’s are honking about how we should vote “YES” because Aborigines weren’t counted in the census, weren’t citizens, and didn’t have the right to vote until the 1967 referendum.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
September 19, 2023 5:22 pm

I caught the worst of it and have been flat on the back since last night.

Posting the state of our health is an important part of an economics blog.
Even on a political blog.
I’m feeling a bit chipper this afternoon, though yesterday was a little low on volts, possibly from burning a bit too much candle at each end on a minor project.

Black Ball
Black Ball
September 19, 2023 5:23 pm

Good to hear from you mc 🙂
I had the pleasure of meeting Bushie today. Chewed the fat over a coffee for close to an hour. Was excellent.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
September 19, 2023 5:27 pm

It’s fun over on the “Sydney Morning Hemorrhoid”

Was in the Steak & Kidney all last week.
My pub puts out the paper at breakfast. Only the Sydney Morning Treason alas.
Reading it, you’d think you were in another country.

The readership (& most journalist contributors) seem to want to nobble every industry or productive aspect to the economy, & tax into an impecunious state anybody who makes any money or has a high salary.

They advocate/dream of this, seemingly believing this will have zero impact on their lifestyle & standard of living.

… and without imagining it would apply to them, their profession, & their salary.

Complete dickheads.

JC
JC
September 19, 2023 5:33 pm

Posting the state of our health is an important part of an economics blog.
Even on a political blog.

Agreed. But I suspect your comment is sour grapes after I stopped you

Pubbling
Croc dundeeing
Blowharding
Bignoting
And general lying.

But thanks for the advice driller.

Black Ball
Black Ball
September 19, 2023 5:35 pm

Um, I think people have been educating themselves and they don’t like what they see. Daily Telegraph:

Indigenous cricket superstar Ashleigh Gardner has urged Australians to do their research and be informed before voting in the Voice to Parliament referendum.

Gardner represents a shamefully under-represented demographic of Australia’s national sport, as one of only four Aboriginal people to ever play Test cricket.

The superstar all-rounder – a potential future captain of her country – says it would be inappropriate for her to try and influence how other Australians vote but appealed for people who ‘don’t know’ what the debate is about, to educate themselves before D-Day arrives.

“It’s obviously up to every individual to make their own educated decision on it and it’s not for me to say, or to tell people what to vote for,” Gardner told this masthead as Cricket Australia marked 30 days until the start of the new Women’s Big Bash season.

“The most important thing is for people to make educated decisions rather than just going, ‘I don’t know what I’m going to do, so I’m just going to vote for A or B.’

“There’s so many great resources and articles to read or videos to watch to help your decision, whether that is for a yes or a no.

“I think it’s important for people to actually go out there and educate themselves for how much they need to make the best decision they can … rather than just making a spur of the moment decision.”

Gardner revealed Australia’s national women’s players were spoken to about the Voice last Monday by Cricket Australia’s Head of Social Impact and Sustainability, Megan Barnett-Smith.

Cricket Australia has publicly supported the Yes vote, but the message to its own athletes has centred more around education.

“We had a good discussion with Megan … she spoke to us about the different resources we have around us. Whether it’s having a conversation with her around it or sharing articles to go and read yourself,” Gardner said.

“It’s not you making a decision because someone else has made that same decision, it’s purely individual and it’s all about the education as to why there is a ‘yes’ and why there is a ‘no.’”

Gardner has been an outspoken advocate for changing the date of Australia Day from January 26, calling out her own employer’s Cricket Australia for scheduling international cricket on a day of mourning for her people.

Being a voice on social issues has not been easy, but Gardner has learned to accept that being a true leader is not about always doing what’s popular and it’s a strength which has her well placed to one day be considered as Australian captain.

However, it’s not a role she is coveting.

“If that ever arose and they ever said, ‘would you like to do it,’ of course I’d say yes, but it’s not really an aspiration, I don’t strive to want to do that,” Gardner said.

“I just want to play as many games as I can for my country.”

Gardner is not just an important voice in Australian sport, but she is a proactive influence of change in indigenous communities.

The 26-year-old launched The Ashleigh Gardner Foundation earlier this year which is aiming to improve school attendance and nutrition for Aboriginal kids in regional areas, and has already started up at a school in Dubbo.

Gardner said she wants to leave a legacy that goes beyond her playing career.

“Sport is such a short part of my life and ultimately I want to leave a legacy long beyond my career,” she said.

“I want to make sure I’m inspiring the next generation, especially of Aboriginal kids to show that there is a real path for them to achieve whatever it is they want to achieve.”

It’s all very good that Gardner is setting up schools and wants to do more once her career finishes.
She’s unwittingly proving that the Voice is not needed by being a voice herself. Didn’t need any constitutional change for her work in Dubbo.

Robert Sewell
September 19, 2023 5:38 pm

JC

Sep 19, 2023 4:52 PM
Turtlehead
I get fake McAfee subscription emails everyday. They’re a scam, you idiot. Trust you to fall for one of the stupidest scams going.
I’m not telling you to help you but this highlights why you’re an idiot. Check the return address as it shows it has nothing to do with the company.
The scammer on the other side answered that way because he may only have a couple of morons a year calling in and you startled him.
Seriously, trust you to fall for a scam like that. Presumably, you gave them your banking details, which by now means you need to check your account to see how much they removed.
Call the FBI!
FMD

That little bout of civility lasted even shorter than your diminishing stature, didn’t it Bignose?
Now amuse yourself by going back and reading what I wrote, you ignorant fop.

Top Ender
Top Ender
September 19, 2023 5:39 pm

Kangaroo signs are so common that I doubt if they are even noticed.

What happened to the sonic zapper or whatever it was that was supposed to drive roos away?

Robert Sewell
September 19, 2023 5:40 pm

Salvatore:
It’s not even time for the 6pm swill, and already the two pot screamer is just bursting for a fight with anyone who looks at him out the corner of his eye.

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 19, 2023 5:41 pm

The overt politicking on the Voice is testament to the fact it should never have been put to the vote in the first place. It is no surprise the Teenage Trot thinks a roomful of spotty yoofs on phones will swing this one.

Top Ender
Top Ender
September 19, 2023 5:42 pm

The Voice will fix it!

The Auditor-General has been urged to probe the alleged misuse of millions of dollars in taxpayer funds within Australia‘s largest Indigenous legal organisation, following explosive allegations of corruption and fraud amongst senior staff, two of whom are still employed.

Opposition legal affairs spokesperson Michaelia Cash referred the matter to Commonwealth Auditor-General Grant Hehir and the Australian National Audit Office earlier this month, pressing an investigation into the near-$20m provided to the North Australian Aboriginal Justice Agency every year.

The referral comes following extensive reporting in this masthead that revealed dozens of serious allegations of criminal conduct amongst NAAJA’s leadership team.

Those allegations included that finance chief Madhur Evans made a secret $20,000 payment into chairperson Colleen Rosas’ bank account, and former chief executive Priscilla Atkins used company funds to purchase artworks, flights, and vehicles including a $129,000 Range Rover.

NAAJA is currently receiving $83m over a five year period from the National Legal Assistance Partnership (NLAP), which is helmed by the federal government.

Senator Cash requested Mr Hehir consider “an audit of arrangements under the NLAP that may result in the payment of Commonwealth money to NAAJA.”

“I refer to reports recently published in The Australian newspaper setting out claims regarding the administration of the NAAJA,” Senator Cash wrote in a letter to Mr Hehir, obtained by The Australian.

“The reports raise serious concerns about the potential misuse of Commonwealth money provided under the National Legal Assistance Partnership, and the efficacy of governance arrangements under that agreement.

“Among other things, the allegations give rise to concerns that Commonwealth money may have been used to support behaviour which, if proven, may constitute corruption or potential criminal conduct.”

Senator Cash continued: “Specifically, I ask that you consider a performance audit to assess the adequacy of data collection, performance monitoring and other governance arrangements under the NLAP, and whether adequate safeguards are in place to ensure that Commonwealth money is not being misused.”

She said if improvements to NAAJA were identified through the audit “I ask you to consider whether they ought to be implemented more generally in respect of funding to other service providers that is governed by the NLAP.”

Senator Cash said there was a “degree of urgency” to the issue, considering the government will reassess the NLAP next year ahead of its expiry in 2025.

“If the next iteration of the NLAP is to take account of any recommendations you may make about the adequacy of existing funding arrangements, it would be highly desirable for all parties to have the benefit of any ANAO report before negotiations commence,” she said.

Senator Cash took aim at Attorney-General Mark Dreyfus for shifting the onus onto the NT government and claiming the territory was responsible for administering the NLAP funds.

“With respect, if that is the case, that is all the more reason for an audit,” she wrote.

“If NLAP arrangements are such that the administration of Commonwealth funding is done at arm’s length, as the Attorney-General appears to contend, then the governance provisions in the intergovernmental agreement that allow the Commonwealth to appropriately monitor expenditure (and respond to any misuse of Commonwealth funds) are all the more important.”

NAAJA conducts the lion’s share of Indigenous legal cases in the NT, where crime has increased by double digits in the past year. The organisation employs 200 workers across Darwin, Palmerston, Katherine, Alice Springs and Tennant Creek.

The Australian understands the NT Commission Against Corruption is investigating the allegations, many of which have come to light in a Federal Court case filed by Ms Atkins, who alleges she was fired from NAAJA after discovering the corrupt conduct of Ms Evans and Ms Rosas.

Ms Atkins claims Ms Rosas appointed her friends to senior positions within NAAJA, and requested her pay be given to her on a credit card so as not to alert the tax office and threaten her Centrelink pension.

Along with making the discreet $20,000 payment to Ms Rosas, Ms Atkins alleges Ms Evans left her mobile phone in offices to record unsuspecting colleagues, and bullied NAAJA workers.

NAAJA denies allegations that Ms Evans and Ms Rosas engaged in deceptive conduct, and claims Ms Atkins was fired for forging Ms Rosas’ signature on her contract extension document, securing her position as CEO – and its $350,000 salary – for a further five years.

NAAJA has also alleged Ms Atkins used company funds to buy nine vehicles, flights, clothes and artworks. Ms Atkins denies all allegations of misconduct.

Ms Rosas and Ms Evans continue to work for NAAJA.

Sources believe NAAJA will spend up to $1m on the trial, after it recruited global firm King & Wood Mallesons to represent them.

The matter is scheduled for trial from October 23.

Oz

JC
JC
September 19, 2023 5:44 pm

Which part should I read, turtlehead? I read the part you were dissing Indians again. Was it that part?

I’d be surprised if you learned your lesson with this scam as I’m sure there have been many others.

JC
JC
September 19, 2023 5:47 pm

I’ll take one back. I have stopped the blowhard from pubbling.

Was in the Steak & Kidney all last week.
My pub puts out the paper at breakfast. Only the Sydney Morning Treason alas.
Reading it, you’d think you were in another country.

And not an ounce of self awareness either that it’s an “economic and political blog”.

Not a day goes that this lowrent idiot doesn’t lead with his chin.

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 19, 2023 5:50 pm

“… securing her position as CEO – and its $350,000 salary – for a further five years.”

Bloke, dats better than the Senate.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
September 19, 2023 5:50 pm

I find it hard to accept that I agree with Michael Mansell on his view of the InVoice.

But agree I do.

From his last comments in the Hun…….

Where does the failing Yes campaign go from here? With lots of money and staff, the strategy is to go even harder than before.

So far, the one-sided media saturation has not worked.

Polls showing a consistent decline in support.

Doubling up with the media saturation risks alienating supporters sick to death of hearing about the Voice.

This issue should have been dealt with by parliament.

Never thought I’d ever agree with anything he said – but for once he got it right.

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 19, 2023 5:54 pm

This issue should have been dealt with by parliament.

Was never going to get around the getting ATSICed issue.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 19, 2023 5:55 pm

H B Bear

Sep 19, 2023 2:07 PM

Feeling a bit blue as have just heard that a motor bike rider died on the road in the valley this morning

Things aren’t in your favour when things go wrong. Didn’t ride the Dandenongs often but sirens and helicopters never far away. No way motorcycling would be legal if invented today

It is a little disconcerting on roads like the Great Ocean Road and the Black Spur in a car when you meet a bike on a bend with his wheels inside the line but his helmet two feet on your side.

Dot
Dot
September 19, 2023 5:59 pm

Interesting re Dan Mong’s Air B&B tax.

I’ve been binge dooming, watching George Gammon and he’s really down on US property. A lot of jurisdictions are banning Air B&B rentals and it makes the mortgages on a lot of these homes unaffordable.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 19, 2023 6:00 pm

Indigenous cricket superstar Ashleigh Gardner has urged Australians to do their research and be informed before voting in the Voice to Parliament referendum.

Gardner represents a shamefully under-represented demographic of Australia’s national sport, as one of only four Aboriginal people to ever play Test cricket.

I’m sad for the pressure on the poor lady. She should be given the free air to do what she’s good at, which is to bat and bowl.

I may be superannuated but I’d bowl nets for her.

Best wishes to Ms Brooke Warne, who is drop dead gorgeous. She has a life ahead of her. I wish she could bowl like her dad.

Shane Warne’s daughter Brooke reveals how her family is coping with the loss of the cricketing legend: ‘I think about him every second’ (Daily Mail, 16 Sep)

Although the claim about only four Aboriginal people to ever play Test cricket seems somewhat erroneous, since the very first Test Match was Aboriginal Aussies playing the Poms in 1868. Did us proud! 😀

cohenite
September 19, 2023 6:01 pm

By popular demand a cute owl

And despite scurrilous comments devoid of dick!

Top Ender
Top Ender
September 19, 2023 6:03 pm

Hmmm.

It looks as if Ms Gardner has launched a 12 week “school breakfast program in Dubbo”, not “a school”.

Link

And you can donate to her Foundation here.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 19, 2023 6:05 pm

Been shown a deal today.
Office property.
Decent lease profile.
40% discount to replacement value.
WTF would you build an office tower when you can buy one ready made with tenants.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 19, 2023 6:05 pm

Cass, there’s a studio on every street corner. You should just tell the owner you are going elsewhere, as you took up membership for pilates and not political indoctrination. Tell him or her there are other members thinking the same way. The last bit may be bullshit, but strike the fear of God into them. That’s what I’d do anyway. Also, don’t show anger, just present with a cold blooded smile as that’s more threatening

I’m plussing this comment.
Firstly, the instructor may be freelancing without the owner’s knowledge, so they deserve to know.
Secondly, if the owner endorses it, they need to know that virtue signalling is not a consequence-free zone.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
September 19, 2023 6:06 pm

Indigenous cricket superstar Ashleigh Gardner
LOL!
Australia’s national women’s players were spoken to about the Voice
Bwa ha ha ha! Sit still and listen girls, you’re getting spoken to!
Cricket Australia’s Head of Social Impact and Sustainability
Oh sh*t oh sh*t seriously, my pants can only get so wet!!!!

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 19, 2023 6:07 pm

feelthebern

Sep 19, 2023 6:05 PM

Been shown a deal today.
Office property.
Decent lease profile.
40% discount to replacement value.
WTF would you build an office tower when you can buy one ready made with tenants.

You can refurbish it with Carrara marble and still be miles in front.

calli
calli
September 19, 2023 6:08 pm

Although the claim about only four Aboriginal people to ever play Test cricket seems somewhat erroneous,

An obvious, pathetic lie. Presumably a different kind of test cricket.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 19, 2023 6:10 pm

It looks as if Ms Gardner has launched a 12 week “school breakfast program in Dubbo”, not “a school”.

Some country schools, here in the Wild West, have had such programmes for years. The kids get a school uniform each morning, with breakfast, and given a lunch. Their “street clothes” are washed, and dried, if need be – they don’t go home in their school uniforms.

JC
JC
September 19, 2023 6:11 pm

Robert Sewell
Sep 19, 2023 5:40 PM

Salvatore:
It’s not even time for the 6pm swill, and already the two pot screamer is just bursting for a fight with anyone who looks at him out the corner of his eye.

This co-dependency is something you should’ve grown out of in your teenage years, Turtlehead. Having said that, we can be forgiving for obvious reasons.

Stop dissing entire races of people, you deplorable moron. That’s what’s seen and clearly understood as pure, unadulterated racism, and after the things you’ve told us about your past and background, you’re in no position to be dissing 1.3 billion people. Most certainly in no position, you gullible twit.

Now go give yourself 39 upticks.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
September 19, 2023 6:11 pm

“I want to make sure I’m inspiring the next generation, especially of Aboriginal kids to show that there is a real path for them to achieve whatever it is they want to achieve.”
…er, by eating regular daybreak meals and going to Western school… maybe … maybe against the grain of everything which is lionized in 60 000 y o of Aboriginal culture?
…you’re saying that Western levels of health and success is available to all the blighted piccanninnies already, if only the kids would take the crease?
…do you realize that you’re urging on the No side, big brain sports superstar?

Salvatore, Iron Publican
September 19, 2023 6:18 pm

How about the intemperate one pipes down, ceases wantonly soiling the blog.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 19, 2023 6:19 pm

BoM is wetting their panties.

Drought, bushfires, extreme heat on the cards for Australia as the Bureau of Meteorology declares an El Nino climate event for the first time in eight years (Sky News, 19 Sep)

Seems they’d forgotten about el Ninos but have suddenly rediscovered them. Someone please ship a containerload of Depends to Canberra.

Four seconds of appropriate video commentary.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
September 19, 2023 6:21 pm

the howler monkey’s are honking about how we should vote “YES” because Aborigines weren’t counted in the census, weren’t citizens, and didn’t have the right to vote until the 1967 referendum.

Well…apart from only the first bing true (and a collective right at that – the other two being personal rights which Aborigines had had since Federation like the rest of us) how does some bestowing of extra privilege on people now alter a (supposed) injustice experienced by someone else a century ago?

Suppose Aborigines could not get decent surgery in the 1950’s*, what can they/we possibly do now that will change that? What can we do now that will give someone in 1959 ingrown toenail surgery that didn’t have it then?

It is an idiotic argument made by people whose true motivations they dare not openly articulate, so they try it on people who are actually so moved by compassion that they feel thinking about it would be dirty, and cruel.

They count on the fact that the people they call cold and uncaring are in fact the exact opposite – they will give away their freedoms and equality if they think it will help.

* which could be true, I suppose – although I would expect it was not because surgeons thought Aborigines were subhuman any more than poor white people were.

Alamak!
September 19, 2023 6:22 pm

Been shown a deal today.
Office property.
Decent lease profile.
40% discount to replacement value.
WTF would you build an office tower when you can buy one ready made with tenants.

Because the market is about to take some very big losses? Article in FT is about USA but I guess its same here or will be.

The bigger game since Covid is that company offices don’t need to be in the centre, or anywhere in fact.

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 19, 2023 6:22 pm

WTF would you build an office tower when you can buy one ready made with tenants.

Better ask Chairman Dan and John Setka. When I started lawyering in the 90s a number of firms we’re blowing up as various leasing deals unwound. Easy to get caught out.

Delta A
Delta A
September 19, 2023 6:25 pm

my recently purchased shaker of salt. ..has a use-by date.

It’s laughable, Fair shake, especially when trendies find a use-by on their Himalayan pink rock salt. A little googling shows:

Himalayan Pink Salt was formed over 250 million years ago during the Jurassic era.

But it must be used within two years.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 19, 2023 6:25 pm

Ice ice baby.

Baby of ABC journalist legally named Methamphetamine Rules in experiment gone wrong (19 Sep)

An ABC journalist who was experimenting with the NSW Registry’s name submission process has revealed her shock when Methamphetamine Rules was accepted for her baby.

Probably better than what Elon names his kids, some of their names aren’t enunciable in English.

calli
calli
September 19, 2023 6:26 pm

Joh, if you’re lurking…yet another abomination posing as an “Agatha Christie” story.

“A Haunting in Venice” is, supposedly, loosely based on “Halloween Party”. Loosely is key here, as the original story is set in Woodley Common…very much rural England.

I wonder how they’ll weave the Greek tragedy of Iphigenia into the toxic melange? Perhaps she’ll be cast as a housemaid?

JC
JC
September 19, 2023 6:28 pm

Salvatore, Iron Publican
Sep 19, 2023 6:18 PM
How about the intemperate one pipes down, ceases wantonly soiling the blog.

Dover, if you’re curious about who started the stoushing look at this comment here.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
Sep 19, 2023 5:22 PM

Obviously another attempt by this toad creating trouble on your blog again.

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 19, 2023 6:29 pm

The bigger game since Covid is that company offices don’t need to be in the centre, or anywhere in fact.

Firms might not need the same floorspace anymore but I wouldn’t bet against cities just yet. Employees have the upper hand at the moment but that can change. I would put a lot of this stuff along with the paperless office stuff.

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 19, 2023 6:32 pm

I didn’t start it.
Did too.
Did not.
I’m dobbing.

Robert Sewell
September 19, 2023 6:33 pm

JC

Sep 19, 2023 5:44 PM
Which part should I read, turtlehead? I read the part you were dissing Indians again. Was it that part?

I’d be surprised if you learned your lesson with this scam as I’m sure there have been many others.

Well, this part for starters:
Rang the number:

Subcontinental – Ullo?
No ‘This is McAffee, here’. Just ‘Ullo”

You spoke of Indians – I spoke of Subcontinentals.
You assumed ‘Indian”. So why do that? Because you wanted to scream ‘racist’ and because you have nothing else.

Here’s some advice, Bignose: Put the drink down, walk away from Salvatores Bar, and have a cigarette. You know they make you feel better.

Indolent
Indolent
September 19, 2023 6:35 pm
Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 19, 2023 6:35 pm
Alamak!
September 19, 2023 6:36 pm

Better ask Chairman Dan and John Setka. When I started lawyering in the 90s a number of firms we’re blowing up as various leasing deals unwound. Easy to get caught out.

Exactly. “Dumb” i.e. Industry Super funds are overweight illiquid assets and still pushing to invest in govt housing scams, sorry schemes and Renewables.

What could go wrong?

Tom
Tom
September 19, 2023 6:38 pm

Drought, bushfires, extreme heat on the cards for Australia as the Bureau of Meteorology declares an El Nino climate event for the first time in eight years (Sky News, 19 Sep)

BOM’s latest hysteria invites us to believe that, after five cool summers, we’re about to return to actual summers, but this time, the BOM’s observations are being supercharged by anti-capitalist ideology.

The Chinese Communist Party is relying on BOM to help cripple one of its major regional competitors to further drive up Australian electricity prices and send even more Australian industry to China, which is building dozens on new coal-fired power stations unrestrained by the climate hysteria in the backwards backwater Down Under.

P
P
September 19, 2023 6:40 pm

Bruce of Newcastle
Sep 19, 2023 6:00 PM

Very interesting. Thank you Bruce.

Another interesting link.

Indolent
Indolent
September 19, 2023 6:40 pm
MatrixTransform
September 19, 2023 6:44 pm

I’m dobbing

JC will file a formal complaint right after he finishes wanking

could be a long night

Robert Sewell
September 19, 2023 6:44 pm

This co-dependency is something you should’ve grown out of in your teenage years, Turtlehead. Having said that, we can be forgiving for obvious reasons.

Stop dissing entire races of people, you deplorable moron. That’s what’s seen and clearly understood as pure, unadulterated racism, and after the things you’ve told us about your past and background, you’re in no position to be dissing 1.3 billion people. Most certainly in no position, you gullible twit.

JC: This is not the urbane man about town persona you’ve been displaying of late. The Girls are not going to be impressed with this Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde duality you’re expressing.
Really, put the drink or whatever down – you’ve had enough, for Gods sake.
Call Sancho and get him to rescue you from the Demon Drink.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
September 19, 2023 6:46 pm

To the intemperate one: Calm down you triggered snowflake. If you can’t take bland comments on an open discussion page, go to a safe space for as long as it takes for you to learn to behave as an adult.
I’ve better things to do than pander to your adolescent fantasies of “stoushes” & so on.
Get over yourself. Grow up. Discuss on the blog in good faith.

Or, safe space for a few weeks or more, to calm down. Perhaps psychiatric help may be in order.

MatrixTransform
September 19, 2023 6:46 pm

right after he finishes wanking

or right after his VPN subscription runs out

whichever come first

Salvatore, Iron Publican
September 19, 2023 6:48 pm

JC will file a formal complaint right after he finishes wanking

He handles the small jobs with aplomb.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 19, 2023 6:48 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xN8rc2lYanw

Cori Bernadi, letting the cat out of the bag.

Ceduna, in South Australia, has a population of 3,500, including 870 ATSI.

There are SEVENTY individual organizations, devoted to servicing that ATSI population.

JC
JC
September 19, 2023 6:51 pm

Just keeping it real Drillsie. Just keeping it real.

Robert Sewell
September 19, 2023 6:53 pm

JC
Sep 19, 2023 6:28 PM

Salvatore, Iron Publican
Sep 19, 2023 6:18 PM
How about the intemperate one pipes down, ceases wantonly soiling the blog.

Dover, if you’re curious about who started the stoushing look at this comment here.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
Sep 19, 2023 5:22 PM
Obviously another attempt by this toad creating trouble on your blog again.

….And it’s another appeal to the umpire – the 8th this over, and the umpire will not be impressed.

Cassie of Sydney
September 19, 2023 6:53 pm

So, Russell Brand’s Youtube channel has now been demonetised. He’s not entitled to the presumption of innocence, that’s been trashed. Guilty, guilty, guilty.

Cassie of Sydney
September 19, 2023 6:54 pm

“Annie
Sep 19, 2023 2:55 PM”

Thank you Annie, appreciate your feedback.

miltonf
miltonf
September 19, 2023 6:54 pm

I’d say gulag’s wanted to do that for some time- they just needed a pretext.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
September 19, 2023 6:56 pm

Russell Brand’s Youtube channel has now been demonetised.

Done on the word of a half-dozen anonymous silhouettes, while a voiceover says he’s a “creep”.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 19, 2023 6:56 pm

Bill Gurley at the All In summit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9cO3-MLHOM

36 mins of government scams, hand in hand with crony capitalists.
Refers the the Telecommunications Act of 1996, a dirty deal between Gingrich & Clinton.

MatrixTransform
September 19, 2023 6:57 pm

Brand’s Youtube channel has now been demonetised

… the internet equivalent of a Pol Pot plastic bag

Roger
Roger
September 19, 2023 7:01 pm

The QWERTY mob are now demanding a VOICE of their own so they may ADVISE the Government on Qwerty needs.

This was entirely predictable.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
September 19, 2023 7:01 pm

Hopefully by now the tantrum throwing toddler has had a rattle or a suck-dummy tossed into the cot to occupy it.

JC
JC
September 19, 2023 7:02 pm

Not that curious but I think 4.52 pm might be more proximate.

Dover, you’re being a tad unfair because it’s obvious I was attempting to help Turts out of a pickle, and in doing so, he even became angry with me. So much for good deeds going unpunished.

Notwithstanding that, the motel owner’s first comment had nothing to do with 4.52. After the very next comment, after his putdown, Driller started a pubbling conversation. He has the self awareness of a blind snail.

Also, trans decided to join in, because other than discussing slow cooked lamb, he doesn’t offer much except abusing people.

I’ll alert you as they occur.

Cassie of Sydney
September 19, 2023 7:05 pm

“creep”

I actually think Brand is a creep, or was one. My understanding is that he’s now happily married with children. Well, good on him, but he has definitely behaved like creepy and promiscuous narcissist in the past, however being a creepy promiscuous narcissistic isn’t illegal, and it most certainly doesn’t make him guilty of any crime. This man had females throwing themselves at him left, right and centre, and no doubt he was opportunistic with those females, and the of course, the females regretted their sexual exchanges with him.

Russell Brand is also the child of a very creepy, decadent, rotten, highly sexualised, promiscuous, coarse and vulgar culture, a culture that has lost its way.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 19, 2023 7:05 pm

It’s too early for stoushing.

Robert Sewell
September 19, 2023 7:06 pm

Indolent
Sep 19, 2023 6:41 PM

‘Views are incompatible’: Neil Oliver axed from Edinburgh Royal Society for differing views

I’m puzzled. How were they incompatible today, but not incompatible years ago?

JC
JC
September 19, 2023 7:07 pm

feelthebern
Sep 19, 2023 7:05 PM

It’s too early for stoushing.

True. Again, I’m the innocent party here.

Roger
Roger
September 19, 2023 7:07 pm

36 mins of government scams, hand in hand with crony capitalists.
Refers the the Telecommunications Act of 1996, a dirty deal between Gingrich & Clinton.

Speaking of whom, the pope’s interview with Clinton under the auspices of the Clinton Foundation went ahead as planned overnight.

I’m waiting for a transcript, but there’s no indication from the reporting thus far that God was discussed.

Imagine that!

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 19, 2023 7:09 pm

The interwebs are saying the plod have received a complaint about Brand.
Apart from the under aged allegation, what a waste of fooking time.

Luzu
Luzu
September 19, 2023 7:09 pm

If anyone has brought this up and I have missed it, please ignore the following:

Russell Brand f**ked and chucked a lot of women

Russell Brand used a lot of drugs

Russell Brand was a completely selfish and horrible person

In the past.

The Russell Brand we see before us is new. He is married, clean, sober and, by all accounts, a changed man.

For those of us of a spiritual bent, he is reformed (possibly reborn).

For those more secular, he is rehabilitated.

Why then, do we all seem so determined to judge him by his past? I cannot see a criminal charge forthcoming. And he has certainly owned up to his past horrible actions.

If there is no forgiveness, we are ALL without hope.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
September 19, 2023 7:09 pm

I’m the innocent party here.

The only parties more innocent are: Everybody else on the blog.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 19, 2023 7:10 pm

Speaking of whom, the pope’s interview with Clinton under the auspices of the Clinton Foundation went ahead as planned overnight.

Tells you all you need to know about that fraud of a pope.

JC
JC
September 19, 2023 7:12 pm

Brand shouldn’t be de-monied for what are currently accusations and the cops are still investigating. There are no charges or at least there weren’t until yesterday our time.

However, he should be massively de-monetized for wearing open chest shirts- open down to his naval. What kind of male human gets around like that FFS..

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 19, 2023 7:12 pm

Russell Brand is also the child of a very creepy, decadent, rotten, highly sexualised, promiscuous, coarse and vulgar culture, a culture that has lost its way.

The UK isn’t that bad.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 19, 2023 7:13 pm

At the pace the plod moves it will take a couple of years before the underaged sex allegation is addressed.
Look what happened to Cliff Richard.

MatrixTransform
September 19, 2023 7:14 pm

aww cute

… JC feels victimized

Robert Sewell
September 19, 2023 7:14 pm

This Voice may just boomerang back into the Aboriginal Industry’s face.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xN8rc2lYanw
I knew they were overserviced, but this is overservicing I’ve not seen since the US Pacific Fleet hit Sydney.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
September 19, 2023 7:15 pm

Russell Brand is also the child of a very creepy, decadent, rotten, highly sexualised, promiscuous, coarse and vulgar culture, a culture that has lost its way.
But Cassie he’s fundamentally irresistible to pommy wimmin, because he has good teeth.

Black Ball
Black Ball
September 19, 2023 7:16 pm

I note Farmer Gez and Bushie there will be information sessions from VNI West October 10 and 11 in Charlton and St Arnaud respectively. Gez I’m sure you will be heading to rip shreds off these spruikers?

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 19, 2023 7:16 pm

Brand shouldn’t be de-monied for what are currently accusations and the cops are still investigating.

100%.
Keep in mind, Gary Glitter’s catalog is still generating revenue for the owners.
I think he sold it to a private equity mob.

calli
calli
September 19, 2023 7:16 pm

They want Brand gone. Over the target, asking inconvenient questions, inviting people to come to their own conclusions.

Can’t have that.

Cassie of Sydney
September 19, 2023 7:17 pm

Luzu
Sep 19, 2023 7:09 PM”

I think you’ve said it best.

JC
JC
September 19, 2023 7:20 pm

Calli and others

I think there are way better people to carry the fight on if people are looking for that sort of thing. I don’t believe he’s worth anything of value to the Right.

Cassie of Sydney
September 19, 2023 7:20 pm

Brand shouldn’t be de-monied for what are currently accusations and the cops are still investigating. There are no charges or at least there weren’t until yesterday our time.”

Indeed.

Robert Sewell
September 19, 2023 7:21 pm

Cassie of Sydney

Sep 19, 2023 6:53 PM
So, Russell Brand’s Youtube channel has now been demonetised. He’s not entitled to the presumption of innocence, that’s been trashed. Guilty, guilty, guilty.

The screeching is being heard on Mars.
Imagine the sheer rage that will erupt when the referendum goes tits up.
The problem is that the Left think they haven’t shouted loudly enough!
This isn’t rational behaviour by them – it’s the behaviour of a screaming tantrum from a 4 year old child chucking the dollies out of the pram.

Indolent
Indolent
September 19, 2023 7:24 pm
Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 19, 2023 7:26 pm

Joe Biden has been groping young girls on camera for years.

Completely ignored by the MSM and the justice system.

Yet some woman accuses Russell Brand and there’s a pile on.

Lee
Lee
September 19, 2023 7:26 pm

Why then, do we all seem so determined to judge him by his past? I cannot see a criminal charge forthcoming. And he has certainly owned up to his past horrible actions.

If there is no forgiveness, we are ALL without hope.

Trudeau was quickly forgiven for wearing blackface 20 years ago.

Whoops! Bad example.

Robert Sewell
September 19, 2023 7:26 pm

JC

Sep 19, 2023 7:02 PM
Not that curious but I think 4.52 pm might be more proximate.

Dover, you’re being a tad unfair because it’s obvious I was attempting to help Turts out of a pickle, and in doing so, he even became angry with me. So much for good deeds going unpunished.
Notwithstanding that, the motel owner’s first comment had nothing to do with 4.52. After the very next comment, after his putdown, Driller started a pubbling conversation. He has the self awareness of a blind snail.
Also, trans decided to join in, because other than discussing slow cooked lamb, he doesn’t offer much except abusing people.
I’ll alert you as they occur.

JC, that’s delusional – really.
Get some help for that dual personality – there’s room for three in that fat head of yours, and an extra couple in your Bignose.

JC
JC
September 19, 2023 7:26 pm

I have a tendency to suspect what that woman said today is probably right. We obviously can’t read minds, but we can at times form opinions over particular issues such as this one.

She reckons.

After notmetoo, Brand saw the risks and thought that at some stage they would be coming for him because of past behavior. Consequently, he moved across to a spot where he would at least get some sympathy and would be defended. I wouldn’t trust him for a second.

JC
JC
September 19, 2023 7:29 pm

Turtlehead, it’s not delusional in the least. And you need to calm down and focus on ticking the shit out of the site. Keep your frustrations to the ticks and just let the rest go. Enuff!

cohenite
September 19, 2023 7:29 pm

Well, I’m reassured. This is Rhys Westbury who is leading the charge against turtle’s fart brain’s brain-fart idea of putting 7 million offshore wind towers, each as big and heavy as a coal ship, between Port Stephens and Newcastle. When pressed Rhys would not commit to nuclear instead of ruinables.

Indolent
Indolent
September 19, 2023 7:31 pm

Imagine the sheer rage that will erupt when the referendum goes tits up.

I went to Eastgate in Bondi Junction this afternoon and was pleasantly surprised to see a stand for the NO campaign. They were just closing up.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 19, 2023 7:31 pm

A genuine cat burglar

Nice pussy! My currawongs are like him, they steal stuff off my neighbours’ clothelines and drop their take in my yard. They especially like anything red. Undies, socks. It’s fun. If you ever wonder who the mysterious sock monster is he’s a currawong.

bons
bons
September 19, 2023 7:31 pm

When I joined my new outfit I followed my natural tendency of ignoring and opposing hierarchy. After all, we were an engineering outfit.
On day two I wandered down to the kitchen to make a cup of tea.
When I pulled the milk out of the fridge a very earnest young engineer declared “do you realise that that milk is out of date”.
“Ah ha, we are a matched pair”.
She was speechless, she never accepted me as a serious senior manager.

Luzu
Luzu
September 19, 2023 7:31 pm

JC,

With respect to the very valuable contributions you bring to this blog (stupid, f**king, w**ky stoushes notwithstanding), Russell Brand has value in that he shows intellectual change and integrity is possible in the midst of cultural degradation.

HYaving been of the Left (and shown love, adoration and riches while he was so) and yet having gravitated away once those values were seen to be hollow and unsatisfying, should he not be uplifted? This is a soul that is moving towards universal truths.

When Kanye West came out as a Christian believer, I was admittedly disdainful. I thought it was a ploy to gain more followers.

My beloved younger son pointed out a very real truth: If we as believers do not believe in his redemption and sustain him, who will? It is very, very easy to tear down and criticise. So much harder to build up and uplift.

Luzu
Luzu
September 19, 2023 7:32 pm

What the heck is up with that random capital Y?

Fat f**king finger syndrome…

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 19, 2023 7:33 pm

Just remembered.
A community service announcement.
The movie Babylon has snippets of nostalgia but is thoroughly a turd.
Brad Pitt is pretty cool but seems like he’s part Aldo Raine and he’s about to start carving up nazis.

Lee
Lee
September 19, 2023 7:34 pm

At the pace the plod moves it will take a couple of years before the underaged sex allegation is addressed.
Look what happened to Cliff Richard.

Didn’t Richard make another fortune in slander damages from the BBC?

JC
JC
September 19, 2023 7:34 pm

This is Rhys Westbury

Obviously another but fully dressed cute owl, with that wonderful long blonde hair.

JC
JC
September 19, 2023 7:39 pm

Luzu sure, what you say can’t be discounted. The Right loves redemption and second chance, and I think that’s a goodness that shouldn’t be diminished. I just remember the things he said about some people on the Right and the way he put them down. It doesn’t matter, because who am I after all. I find it difficult to forgive. But if others feels different that’s okay too.

Dot
Dot
September 19, 2023 7:40 pm

The “underage” gal was in the UK?

No crime has been committed.

If it is California we are taking about, then Asia Argento should be in the clink.

JC
JC
September 19, 2023 7:41 pm

Luzu

How’s the soldier kid? All good I hope?

Roger
Roger
September 19, 2023 7:49 pm

I was wondering about that too.

Indolent
Indolent
September 19, 2023 7:52 pm

We can argue all we like about how the fire started, but there’s no doubt whatsoever that firstly, there was no warning, none, and secondly that the police were blockading the roads out and preventing people from leaving. We’ve heard this over and over and even seen film of it. How can that be explained?

INTENTIONAL DEATH TRAP “If I had listened to the Police..I’d Be Dead” Lahaina Fire Survivor Story

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
September 19, 2023 7:52 pm

Motorcycles.

He took it easy on this lap. One simple mistake and the morgue awaits. Riders and family know it and they accept it. People calling it to be banned can f*off!

Good fun.

PETER HICKMAN BMW HP4 RACE | IOMTT | Chin Camera full lap!

miltonf
miltonf
September 19, 2023 7:53 pm

Regarding demonetizing Brand- gulag is pulling all stops out to attack Trump and his supporters. Orders from on high no doubt

miltonf
miltonf
September 19, 2023 7:55 pm

some of the vomit they’re serving up is almost comical

Luzu
Luzu
September 19, 2023 7:57 pm

JC,

Thank you very much for asking. I have had no more information other than that he is alive.

As to Brand’s previous insults towards those he felt were his political enemies, can we not give space to people who come to realise that they were wrong? I understand that you are not a Christian believer but in my own walk (really shoddy and spotted that it is), I have seen so much evidence of people turning away from previous beliefs.

Brand is a fairly tortured soul, one looking for validation and satisfaction wherever he can find it. I really think that is the nature of addiction. I don’t know his background but I suspect it was dysfunctional.

And yet having been immersed in the fleshpots (and drugpots) of the world, he has emerged. He has somehow retained a part of himself that knew there was more.

And he found it in the most conservative of spaces – hearth and home. All credit to his wife – she held out to him something infinitely more valuable.

The parable of the shepherd, 99 sheep and the lost one is so instructive here. Let us rejoice that a lost soul (with all that lostness entails) has begun to work his way home. If you want to throw caltrops in his way, that is on you. Personally, I want to be in that cheer squad that is cheering wildly and encouraging him on. It is a thing of beauty to see a man become all that he can be

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
September 19, 2023 7:58 pm

Russell Brand grew up and turned into an adult human being. Lefties hate that, because they get stuck before age three.

JC
JC
September 19, 2023 7:59 pm

Our Father who art in heaven…

Please God let this small mercy be so.

Slate, and I’m not linking the piece.

The Cake Is Baked. Deal With It.
Stop moaning about replacing Biden and Harris. This is the 2024 Democratic ticket, whether you like it or not.

Roger
Roger
September 19, 2023 8:00 pm

Thank you very much for asking. I have had no more information other than that he is alive.

Thank God.

JC
JC
September 19, 2023 8:02 pm

Fair enough Luzu. You convinced me. Seriously, nice persuasive piece.

I am a believer, but also a sinner . -:)

Indolent
Indolent
September 19, 2023 8:02 pm
cohenite
September 19, 2023 8:03 pm

This is Rhys Westbury

Obviously another but fully dressed cute owl, with that wonderful long blonde hair.

Rhys is a limp wristed greenie with a severe case of NIMBY itis. For him it is not the useless fuking wind towers but their location which interfere with a higher greenie priority, namely whales. A real cute owl like this little beauty would whip his smooth, hairless arse.

Check your glasses HP, they’re obviously frosting over.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
September 19, 2023 8:06 pm
John H.
John H.
September 19, 2023 8:12 pm

DrBeauGan
Sep 19, 2023 7:58 PM
Russell Brand grew up and turned into an adult human being. Lefties hate that, because they get stuck before age three.

Anyone who carries on with all that Eastern spirituality crap has not grown up. He is just another celebrity with too many opinions who should shut up and go fishing.

Luzu
Luzu
September 19, 2023 8:13 pm

JC,

We all are. The most honest thing we can do as humans is admit we miss the mark and just ask for mercy.

But while we exist, we should also extend mercy (or grace) to others.

Indolent
Indolent
September 19, 2023 8:16 pm
feelthebern
feelthebern
September 19, 2023 8:21 pm

Every Rottweiler I have met (& I’ve met a lot) they are just big babies to the point they are almost useless.

Luzu
Luzu
September 19, 2023 8:25 pm

John H.

He speaks about Jesus as being Lord and Saviour. My closest spiritual belief is Messianic Judaism. Let us allow the King of the Universe (and I really do love that Jewish title given to our Creator) to impact his creation (and Russell Brand falls under that) as He wishes. You and I do not get to tell our Creator how He may speak to His people.

I love the story of Jesus speaking to the Cannanite woman and her request for mercy. He said (quite rightly) that He had come for His own. But her response (in faith) that even the dogs eat from the crumbs from the table (I believe that God’s mercy is abundant and overflowing) moved His heart. He granted her request.

Can we not accept that God’s mercy (and wisdom and righteousness and lovingkindness) might also have spilled onto Russell Brand that he can in turn convince others through the testimony of a changed life?

Cassie of Sydney
September 19, 2023 8:29 pm

I actually believe Brand has tried to rein in his yetzer hara, through marriage and the gift of children. Marriage and children generally tame men. The ‘yetzer hara’ in Judaism is the inclination to do evil, violating God’s will. In Judaism ‘sin is considered part of life’, there is no perfect human being and everyone has an inclination to do evil however we are born sinless. If we sin, we can change our ways.

Cassie of Sydney
September 19, 2023 8:29 pm

“You and I do not get to tell our Creator how He may speak to His people.”

Indeed.

cohenite
September 19, 2023 8:36 pm

Fair enough; but those things cost a $million bucks.

JC
JC
September 19, 2023 8:39 pm

That’s fine Luzu. I was possibly his worst critique here and you were persuasive enough to convince me. Good enough.

JC
JC
September 19, 2023 8:42 pm

cohenite
Sep 19, 2023 8:36 PM
Fair enough; but those things cost a $million bucks.

And your owls don’t?

Cassie of Sydney
September 19, 2023 8:44 pm

“NIMBY itis”

I read that as “tits”……he does have long blond hair.

Perhaps I need to go to Specsavers.

JC
JC
September 19, 2023 8:44 pm

You know, you could only drive that thing to the beach house which is either in Palm Beach Sydney or Malibu. Anywhere else would be unnatural.

cohenite
September 19, 2023 8:47 pm

And your owls don’t?

Nah, they’re down to Earth gals; all you have to do is beat them at pushups or chinups. Maybe that’s the issue with the pot bellies around here.

JC
JC
September 19, 2023 8:50 pm

I told you weeks ago. That was Baris’s considered opinion.

Okay fair enough, but I’m making too many concessions this evening. 🙂

The big condition is that the Demons can pretend he’s alive until then. Imagine if the corrupt douchebag croaked and the Demons just made AI images of him through the election cycle pretending he’s still alive. If AI imaging was more advanced I would not that past them.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 19, 2023 8:52 pm

He speaks about Jesus as being Lord and Saviour.

I thought Brand was more into the Hindu or Hindu adjacent stuff.

JC
JC
September 19, 2023 8:52 pm

Is this prepping for a confrontation with China, turning the screws on the Chinese economy, turning to the US economy, or all of the above?

Sounds like both and at the prompting of the US too.

Luzu
Luzu
September 19, 2023 8:54 pm

Cassie,

Yetzer hara might also be called original sin.

I recently had the opportunity to speak to my beloved colleagues at work as to why I did not believe that the ‘alien biologics’ spoken of by the various US agencies were real.

The Bible tells us that all of creation groans (cries out, suffers) because of the weight of sin that was caused by Adam. Now, if I am a being from some distant star (planet, asteroid, celestial rock – take your pick), how can I be considered to be guilty of that sin and therefore part of that dislocation or separation? Why should I bear the consequences? Is that just? I am not human and therefore not of Adam.

I once had it explained to me this way. If your grandfather had died when he was three, would you exist?

The answer is quite clearly no.

Therefore, where were you when Adam sinned?

The very obvious answer (to those who do not subscribe to the idea that we descended from some ape-like ancestor) is that we were in his loins and therefore present when he sinned.

Just as the potentiality of us was present in our grandfather’s loins when he was three.

Top Ender
Top Ender
September 19, 2023 9:08 pm

yet another abomination posing as an “Agatha Christie” story….“A Haunting in Venice”

Is given an extreme savaging in the cinema review section of this week’s Spectator.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
September 19, 2023 9:16 pm

Anyone who carries on with all that Eastern spirituality crap has not grown up.

I don’t see any substantial difference between religions. You have to be slightly batty to take any of them seriously. So either most of the population has never got to adulthood, or Brand has but is slightly dotty in a marginally different way from most.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
September 19, 2023 9:17 pm

Bern I thought Brand was into 2-3 easy roots a day.

Cassie of Sydney
September 19, 2023 9:22 pm

You have to be slightly batty to take any of them seriously.

I’ve met and known some really batty atheists in my time.

Chris
Chris
September 19, 2023 9:23 pm
Cassie of Sydney
September 19, 2023 9:25 pm

I don’t see any substantial difference between religions. “

And there are bloody big differences between the various religions.

Top Ender
Top Ender
September 19, 2023 9:28 pm

Give ’em a good serve – and vote them out next time:

A group of Melbourne councillors have voted against a controversial proposal to lobby the government to change the date of Australia Day after the idea received huge community backlash.

Bayside councillors voted no unanimously to the proposal to lobby the federal government to change the date of Australia Day.

Following huge community backlash over the past 24 hours, where thousands of people emailed Brighton state Liberal MP James Newbury with their concerns, the councillors have back the majority of their constituents.

In a heated discussion on Wednesday night, councillor Clarke Martin expressed his disappointed in the conduct preceding the council meeting.

“We are a council, we get recommendations every week. Someone went off and wrote to our constituents that we would be changing what we do on Australia Day tonight,” he said.

“It’s really disappointing to see someone mobilising people over what really is a beat-up issue.

“I’m looking forward to us moving on, hopefully we get a yes vote (in the referendum]) and then we can have a real conversation about how we treat our Indigenous brothers and sisters.”

The meeting comes after a survey revealed more than two thirds of Bayside’s ratepayers support January 26 as our national day.

Herald-Sun

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 19, 2023 9:29 pm

feelthebern

Sep 19, 2023 7:16 PM

Brand shouldn’t be de-monied for what are currently accusations and the cops are still investigating.

100%.
Keep in mind, Gary Glitter’s catalog is still generating revenue for the owners.
I think he sold it to a private equity mob.

Do you want to touch me? Yeah!
Where? There? Yeah? Oooooh!

Sounds like a guilty plea to me.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
September 19, 2023 9:29 pm

I’ve met and known some really batty atheists in my time.

So have I. The really certain atheists are definitely batty. Quite a lot of them are atheists because it’s fashionable in the circles within which they move. It’s their religion.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
September 19, 2023 9:33 pm

And there are bloody big differences between the various religions.

It’s like seeing huge differences between the so-called races. If you think it is really important, really matters, what ‘race’ you are, the differences between races looks huge. If you’re indifferent, the differences are negligible.

Luzu
Luzu
September 19, 2023 9:44 pm

Boy, do I love me some brackets!

(See previous five comments).

For those who are dismissive, it’s not my fault. I was born this way. Both my parents are English teachers.

The Beer whisperer
The Beer whisperer
September 19, 2023 9:52 pm

Have a friend’s young daughter who declined a glass of mineral water when visiting. She later admitted it was because she saw it was past its “best by” date two days before.

4 and a half billion years old, and it just happens to go off next Tuesday.

Perfidious Albino
Perfidious Albino
September 19, 2023 9:54 pm

Some Top Man from the Bureau on the wireless today, apparently we can expect ‘above average temperature and dryness this summer’…

Salvatore, Iron Publican
September 19, 2023 9:55 pm

The Cat is worth it, for Beer Whisperer alone

4 and a half billion years old, and it just happens to go off next Tuesday.

Luzu
Luzu
September 19, 2023 9:56 pm

Dear DrBG,

What a sweetheart you are. But a little naive when it comes to human motivations. What seems to you to be tiny variances in beliefs has caused untold suffering (Gates of Vienna, anyone?)

Being a materialist really doesn’t insulate you from the reality of a few others being religionists (or whatever word you prefer).

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 19, 2023 9:58 pm

There are two separate and distinct issues in my mind about Russell Brand.
1. The career destroying rail-roading based on untested and anonymous complaints which haven’t been the subject of charges, much less tested in court? Unquestionably wrong.
2. He has always been an opportunistic narcissist, so I am very, very wary of his recent “Road to Damascus” moment.
It is possible to simultaneously defend his right to the presumption of innocence and be suspicious of his political authenticity.

Oh come on
Oh come on
September 19, 2023 10:01 pm

Senator Steele-John says there are still times when he can’t fully access or be involved with community experiences.

“Like, when you go to the beach, and they haven’t put a wheelchair ramp in down to the sea. You just have to sit there while your friends do that,” he says.

“In those moments, you think, ‘This is bad because this change hasn’t been made’. Not, ‘This is bad because I am broken’.

When he lands in Katmandu and realises there isn’t a wheelchair ramp to the Everest base camp, let alone to the summit, I’m sure he’ll maintain this reasonable and self-affirming perspective.

It probably doesn’t need to be said, but…I’m not saying there shouldn’t be wheelchair ramps to the sea. However, rocking up to at any old beach and expecting there will be one there waiting for you to roll down seems a little unreasonable.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
September 19, 2023 10:03 pm

What seems to you to be tiny variances in beliefs has caused untold suffering (Gates of Vienna, anyone?)

That’s because negligible differences don’t look negligible to the true believers. And is additional evidence that they are all batty.

Some want to conquer in the name of Jesus, some in the name of the prophet. I think they’re both bonkers.

Luzu
Luzu
September 19, 2023 10:13 pm

BG,

The Christian believers will pray for you. The Muslim will put a knife to your throat. Tell me again how you find them equal.

MatrixTransform
September 19, 2023 10:17 pm

2. He has always been an opportunistic narcissist, so I am very, very wary of his recent “Road to Damascus” moment.

I love it when sancho does his Legal-Lego character thing

MatrixTransform
September 19, 2023 10:21 pm

rocking up to at any old beach and expecting there will be one there waiting for you to roll down seems a little unreasonable.

it’s not that hard … just use google maps to find the bike paths and boat ramps

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
September 19, 2023 10:22 pm

The Christian believers will pray for you. The Muslim will put a knife to your throat. Tell me again how you find them equal.

I didn’t say they are equal. I prefer the Christians, at least the old-fashioned sort. But only some of them. The Christian mob who murdered Hypatia were as vile as any Muslim terrorists.

MatrixTransform
September 19, 2023 10:25 pm

Fat Bikes are everywhere

… senator needs a Fat Chair

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
September 19, 2023 10:26 pm

The Christian mob who murdered Hypatia were as vile as any Muslim terrorists.

And you’d have to be less than objective to see Peter the Hermit as a good man. I guess you don’t consider the Children’s crusade as typical Christian behaviour. But it was inspired by the Christianity of the day.

Top Ender
Top Ender
September 19, 2023 10:28 pm

Meanwhile in the Territory:

A young Territorian who died from sniffing deodorant after being sectioned at Royal Darwin Hospital last year was the victim of “a litany of failures”, a court has heard.

NT Coroner Elisabeth Armitage on Tuesday began an inquest into the death of the 24-year-old, referred to in the Darwin Local Court as Ngalarina and by the pronouns they/them.

In her opening statement, counsel assisting Chrissy McConnell said Ngalarina had been involuntarily admitted to the hospital in January following a history of mental health and substance abuse issues.

On January 31, Ms McConnell said doctors approved ground leave for Ngalarina, meaning they could leave the facility while staying within the hospital grounds accompanied by a security guard.

“The security guard who was to accompany Ngalarina for all ground leave was not told of Ngalarina’s history of volatile substance abuse and was of the understanding that his role was confined to monitoring the patient and ensuring that they didn’t run away,” she said.

During one trip through the hospital grounds that afternoon, Ms McConnell said Ngalarina bought two bottles of deodorant and later went for a shower before a different security guard alerted a nurse that he had not heard from them for 10 minutes.

She said the nurse unlocked the door with a pair of scissors and found Ngalarina unconscious on the floor next to an empty deodorant can and they could not be revived.

“Ngalarina’s death has been identified by Dr Luke Butcher who is the institutional representative for the Department of Health as a sentinel event,” she said.

“That is an event where something preventable goes wrong with a patient’s care which causes the serious harm or death of a patient.”

Ngalarina’s mother Averly Wakuranhawuy told the court she “sat there for two days, crying” after she learned of her child’s death.

“I was asking them questions and one doctor said to me ‘He was OK, he was happy on that day’,” she said.

“He asked him where you want to go back to, he said ‘To come back to home where my mum (is)’ and I was thinking ‘What really happened to him?’ because everything was good.”

Ms Wakuranhawuy said she now thought about Ngalarina whenever she walked around her community of Milingimbi where Ngalarina grew up.

“Every time I see the breeze coming in I always think about him because he was my loved one even though he (drove me) crazy,” she said.

“I’m very happy that he’s in a better place now, I don’t need to worry.”

The inquest continues on Wednesday.

NT News

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 19, 2023 10:29 pm

it’s not that hard … just use google maps to find the bike paths and boat ramps

There are 3 or 4 beach wheelchairs in Perf. Bit of a palaver to use them so I haven’t yet. Not being able to reach Port Philip Bay is a bonus.

Luzu
Luzu
September 19, 2023 10:29 pm

The female mathematician made so fashionably tragic by the beautiful Rachel Weisz?

How many women have been murdered recently for the same reason as opposed to by Koran believing men?

You had to go all the way back to Hypatia for an example rather than the real world around you. Does that not tell you something?

Luzu
Luzu
September 19, 2023 10:34 pm

Darn straight I don’t see the children’s crusade as Christian behaviour. Just as I don’t see parents transitioning their kinds as some sort of higher calling. Parents or adults are not automatically correct by virtue of being parents or adults.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 19, 2023 10:36 pm

Went to an oyster bar in Shinjuku tonight.
Totally excellent.
Massive plump oysters from all over – Hokkaido, Hiroshima, Miyagi.
Bowled over a selection of eight with champers. They supply some very unusual dressings for oysters, including Scotch in an atomiser. Left that alone and stuck with squeezed lemon.
Tuna sashimi, roasted peppers with whitebait, and some sort of crumbed white fish with an amazing mayo dressing.
Japanese restaurants always surprise with a little appetiser, often in exchange for a small cover charge. Often it is pickled vegetables or a tiny bowl of noodles. Tonight it was little cups of ginger broth which was surprisingly refreshing.

Top Ender
Top Ender
September 19, 2023 10:40 pm

Universities deliver ‘woke’ degrees to trainee teachers who demand more practical training

“Woke’’ universities are instructing trainee teachers in gender theory, climate activism and race relations, as young teachers demand practical classroom skills.

One in five teachers has warned the federal Education Department that universities failed to teach them all the practical skills required to teach children to read and write, or to manage classrooms.

Up to one-third of recent teaching graduates from some universities declared their degree had failed to prepare them for the classroom.

Teachers-in-training have been lectured on “postmodernism, existentialism and reconstructionism” in the University of Canberra’s initial teacher education degree.

Course materials sent to students show lecturers have critiqued the “social and political content’’ of the Australian Curriculum, mandated by the nation’s education ministers for teaching children from primary school through to year 10.

A lecture slide notes “we aren’t even doing a very good job”, tallying up 19 references to social justice, Aboriginal rights, invasion, colonisation, the Stolen Generation, assimilation, social justice and racism.

The course material includes a slide from CNN, with the title “Our World Today’’, linking climate change to aggression and violent behaviour, depression and anxiety, farmer suicide and forced migration.

Thousands of students skipped school on Friday to march in “School Strikes 4 Climate’’ protests in Brisbane, Darwin and Melbourne.

One protester brandished a misspelt placard declaring “I’M MAD AND DISSAPOINTED”.

Two of Australia’s most eminent scientists – Nobel laureate and Australian National University vice-chancellor Professor Brian Schmidt and former chief scientist Dr Alan Finkel – this week criticised the poor levels of literacy and numeracy among school students and called for greater focus on schools teaching the basics of English and mathematics.

One-third of school students failed to meet the minimum standards for reading, writing and numeracy in this year’s NAPLAN (National Assessment Program, Literacy and Numeracy) tests, with students twice as likely to fail than to excel in the tests.

But many teachers are struggling with literacy and numeracy themselves, as universities fill their teaching degrees with lectures on social justice.

The federal Education Department revealed on Tuesday that many teachers fresh from university feel their degrees failed to prepare them for classroom teaching.

“A lot of students talked about the need to have more practical on-the-job training as part of the course and some suggested something along the lines of an apprenticeship model,’’ said Lisa Bolton, director of research and strategy for the department’s Quality Indicators for Learning and Teaching survey of university graduates.

“They wanted to know more about classroom behaviour management, dealing with parents and dealing with students with particular learning needs.

“They said the placement was too short, the course was too theoretical and even a bit outdated. A few had made comments about wanting the lecturers to have more recent teaching experience in schools.’’

One University of Canberra final-year student told The Australian the education degree was “teaching us to indoctrinate students’’. “It teaches about gender diversity and critical race theory rather than drilling down on the fundamental skills so we can be really effective teachers ourselves,’’ the student said.

“I’m pretty irritated by all the politically correct and woke stuff.

“We could learn more in a school classroom than in the university … and save ourselves and the taxpayer a lot of money.’’

At the University of Canberra, a lecturer’s slide about “postmodernist writing’’ includes a rambling and incomprehensible 92-word sentence: “The move from a structuralist account in which capital is understood to structure social relations in relatively homologous ways to a view of hegemony in which power relations are subject to repetition, convergence, and rearticulation brought the question of temporality into the thinking of structure, and marked a shift from a form of theory that takes structural totalities as theoretical objects to one in which the insights into the contingent possibility of structure inaugurate a renewed conception of hegemony as bound up with the contingent sites and strategies of the rearticulation of power.’’

A University of Canberra spokeswoman said the student’s complaints “do not accurately represent’’ the quality and content of its degree. She said trainee teachers were given practicum placements in schools, ranging from a week in the first year to 30 days in the fourth year of study.

“Taken together, all units of study that focus on a key learning area of the Australian Curriculum – mathematics, English, science etc – represent approximately 50 per cent of the total units studied by students in an undergraduate course of initial teacher education,’’ the spokeswoman said.

“The other half of the courses focuses on educational and developmental psychology, classroom and behaviour management, the use of data to improve learning, designing learning for diversity and inclusion, and the development of a professional identity well-informed by policy, theory, appropriate sources of professional learning and codes of conduct and practice.’’

Federal, state and territory education ministers have given universities until the start of 2025 to update their degrees to focus more on classroom management, children’s brain development and the teaching of phonics-based reading and writing, as well as mathematics.

The detail of what is taught in existing university degrees is kept secret: universities must submit course content to state and territory teaching accreditation bodies for approval, but most only publish a broad outline on their websites.

The Australian sought the universities’ course materials from the Queensland College of Teachers but was told they could not be released “for privacy reasons’’.

The University of Queensland’s website shows that teaching students spend the first six weeks of their degree learning about “sociological ideas and concepts needed for understanding the complexities of schooling and the social processes that often go on within them”. “We delve into the history of knowledge production in sociology, and explore the need to decolonise, expand and diversify what we know about schools and the processes that go on in them,’’ it states.

Students are assessed, in part, on a 10-minute verbal presentation explaining concepts such as “decolonising knowledge’’, the “myth of meritocracy” and “deficit discourses’’. Another lecture is about “expanding notions of sex, gender and sexuality’’.

At Victoria University, the very first subject in its teaching degree aims to “develop understanding for the cultures, histories and languages of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islanders and to use this knowledge in the promotion of reconciliation”.

The teaching of science, maths and reading is not covered until the second year, and students must wait until the final year of their four-year degree to specialise in subjects such as biology and humanities, or to integrate the use of digital technologies in lessons.

Charles Sturt University’s course handbook for its Bachelor of Education (Early Childhood and Primary) has a list of 11 outcomes for its graduates.

The top priority is for graduates to be “agents of change’’’.

“Graduates from this course will teach for social justice and equity,’’ it states. The fifth priority is that “graduates from this course will teach for student learning’’.

At the University of Adelaide, an introduction to Australian history “treats the development of Australian society to the present through the lenses of Aboriginal deep time history; convicts and colonialism; war and conflict; migration and multiculturalism; landscape and the environment, and; the development of democratic institutions”.

Despite 13 years at school and four at university, 7 per cent of the 20,000 final-year trainee teachers failed to pass the mandatory literacy and numeracy test in 2021.

The Literacy and Numeracy Test for Initial Teacher Education Students was set up as a guardrail to keep poorly trained teachers out of classrooms.

The test includes questions that could be answered by primary school students, such as correcting a spelling error or answering: “This year a teacher spent $383.30 on stationery. Last year the teacher spent $257.85 on stationery. How much more did the teacher spend this year than last year?’’

The Australian

Salvatore, Iron Publican
September 19, 2023 10:40 pm

If your neighbour goes to church, get up early & brand the calves in the paddock adjacent him first.” – **Effective old timer method for maintaining your calving percentage.

** (results may vary depending upon the individual neighbour)

MatrixTransform
September 19, 2023 10:49 pm

Not being able to reach Port Philip Bay is a bonus

the senator also fights for climate causes.

prospect of being bogged on Chelsea Beach is no joke

so if you get bogged on the beach as sea level rises then council will move you closer to the Nepean Hwy every 10 years or so

… like they do with the bathing boxes

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
September 19, 2023 10:54 pm


You had to go all the way back to Hypatia for an example rather than the real world around you. Does that not tell you something?

Yes. It tells me that now Christianity is less powerful, Christians are nicer people. At least, the old-fashioned sort.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
September 19, 2023 10:56 pm

I didn’t have to go back to Hypatia. The way the Catholics and Protestants murdered each other relatively recently would have made the same point.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
September 19, 2023 11:00 pm

Christians are nicer people.

There’s no doubting that, though individual results vary, there’s some thoroughly nice people from many religions & Buddhists take quite some beating when it comes to being nice. I’d happily fill my workplace with nothing but Buddhists (clientele likewise)

For a culture/ethos to build a society upon, Christianity would be difficult to top.

Luzu
Luzu
September 19, 2023 11:04 pm

You didn’t have to but you did.

Show me again where Jesus encouraged believers to kill each other.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
September 19, 2023 11:08 pm

The Christian mob who murdered Hypatia were as vile as any Muslim terrorists.

The actual story is more fascinating.

Dover, your article is keen to destroy the more fanciful mythology around Hypatia. But it doesn’t counter the claim that she was brutally murdered by a Christian mob.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
September 19, 2023 11:18 pm

But it punctures the claim that this was a dispute between pagans and Christians.

I never made that claim. I just said it showed that a mob of Christians could be as vile and murderous as a mob of Muslims.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 19, 2023 11:23 pm

Indigenous voice to parliament’s Yes campaign ‘not about separatism’, says Noel Pearson

By paige taylor
Indigenous Affairs Correspondent, WA Bureau Chief
@paigeataylor
and rosie lewis
Political Correspondent
@rosieslewis
10:00PM September 19, 2023

Noel Pearson has declared Indigenous Australia will not return to “assimilation” as the co-architect of the Indigenous voice moved to counter No campaigner Jacinta Nampijinpa Price’s calls for an end to separatism.

The Cape York leader expressed concerns the debate over the Indigenous voice to parliament was sending the country backward into old territory where assimilationist ideas were accepted.

He argues for an alternative concept of unity in which Indigenous people have a special but not separate place in the nation’s story, a reference to John Howard’s landmark speech on constitutional recognition in 2007.
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“It’s too late for us now to be talking about assimilation. We’re not gonna turn into whitefellas tomorrow,” Mr Pearson said.

“Our children are gonna remain Aboriginal. And I think we can accept that I think Australians accept that. You can’t turn the clock back. It’s gonna be an enriching thing for the country when we do this.”

The Cape York leader was in Perth on Tuesday when he categorically rejected that the campaign for the Indigenous voice to parliament was about separatism, as Senator Nampijinpa Price has repeatedly argued.

One of the No campaign’s key slogans is “One Together, Not Two Divided”.

“The Yes campaign is not a campaign for separatism, it is not a campaign for assimilation,” Mr Pearson said at Edith Cowan University in the northern Perth suburb of Joondalup, where students can take a unit studying his reforming work and philosophy in Indigenous economic participation and welfare reciprocity.

“It (the voice) is a third way, which is that we be recognised as having our own identity, culture, languages, heritage within a united Australia.”

Senator Nampijinpa Price’s blanket rejection that there has been any downside of colonisation caused deep upset last week, and historians and researchers rushed to offer evidence of the ongoing harm of colonial policies.

However, when an audience member at Edith Cowan University asked Mr Pearson if Senator Nampijinpa Price was wrong or being mean-spirited, he replied that it was “a tactic”.

“It is like (saying) ‘all Mexicans are rapists’. Just say an outrageous thing. It’s the way democratic discourse seems to have taken a turn,” he said.

“People can say outrageous things – even things they don’t believe – in order to capture attention, galvanise constituencies. They’re as delighted at our distress as much as anything so I just think we must not be distracted by that. I don’t think it’s a serious argument … we have to continue with the progress we have made.

“On this issue it’s either assimilation or it’s separatism or it’s a united society where we get to keep our culture, we get to self-determine our lives … these are (John) Howard’s words, a special but not separate place in Australia.”

Mr Pearson lamented that the referendum had become about power for some politicians.

“In the minds of too many people, particularly the politicians, this is about the next federal election rather than the long-term future of the Australian people,” he said. “Referendums are about a long vision for the country.”

Earlier on Perth radio, Mr Pearson made a pitch to West Australian voters when he said: “The No campaign, it’s in their interest to hearken back to controversial policies of the past. The fact is … we’re at a point in Australia where Australians largely accept that Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people have their own identities. They have their own cultures. They have their own languages. And that this is a good thing for the country. We don’t want to lose those things.

“We are no longer demanding that Aboriginal people abandon those things. They’re not ugly things. They’re not bad things. They are, in fact, rich things and we have got something to contribute to the culture. The situation has changed from 30, 50, 80 years ago. We now accept Aboriginal identity and culture and languages, and recognition of that. The recognition that that is part of Australia is something we now want to agree with in the Constitution and recognise it in the vote that we take on October 14.

“When Aboriginal kids go astray and they see no place in the society, you know really it’s not about so-called assimilation, we’re not going to turn into whitefellas. That’s never going to happen. We’re not going to leave our culture and identity and languages. But at the same time, it’s not about separatism. The Yes campaign is about integration. It’s about unity. It’s about bringing the country together so that people can have their cultures but be very naturally Australian.”

Senator Nampijinpa Price said: “This is a disgraceful and divisive attempt by Noel Pearson to verbal Australians voting no.

“Nobody except him is talking about assimilation or turning Aboriginal children into ‘whitefellas’.

“Of course Australians are proud of their Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander brothers and sisters. Of course we are proud of our Indigenous heritage.

Indolent
Indolent
September 19, 2023 11:28 pm
JC
JC
September 19, 2023 11:33 pm

Inner-city Australians, usually in a government service job of some sort, are almost always atheists, and I say this without exaggeration—the worst people in the world. They’d give devout Muslims a decent run. Most hail from Protestant families.

American WASPs are very different people, and I’ve often wondered if convict heritage had anything to do with it.

JC
JC
September 19, 2023 11:38 pm

Dover, your article is keen to destroy the more fanciful mythology around Hypatia. But it doesn’t counter the claim that she was brutally murdered by a Christian mob.

This is a pretty good illustration of the automatic impulse to suggest someone doing an unchristian thing is a christian. It’s a version of the way the atheist mob went after Pell with such ugly gusto.

JC
JC
September 19, 2023 11:43 pm

Dover, she’s commenting because she’s a demonrat partisan. It’s no big surprise that someone in a high level executive position in the US would openly share their views especially about who is to blame about a shutdown.

JC
JC
September 19, 2023 11:50 pm

At least as far as the 20C until now, wouldn’t atheists take the line honors for being the most evil bastards that have ever walked the earth? FMD, they’re hard to beat.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
September 19, 2023 11:58 pm

At least as far as the 20C until now, wouldn’t atheists take the line honors for being the most evil bastards that have ever walked the earth? FMD, they’re hard to beat.

I think you are talking about Marxists. It’s a particularly nasty religion, of which atheism is a part.

JC
JC
September 19, 2023 11:59 pm

The second para made me LOL.

Fetterman himself started the rumors flying in mid-August when he radically changed his look, shaving his salt-and-pepper goatee and growing a thick brown mustache. That has led to a blizzard of photo comparisons. On Sunday, journalist Alex Rosen posted two photos in which Fetterman looks very different with the question: “How did John Fetterman grow a full beard between these 2 pictures supposedly taken on the same day?” X’ers pointed out that one of his photos was actually taken over a year before the other, but that didn’t actually address the fact that Fetterman really does look quite different in both.

Nevertheless, the idea that there was another bald, hulking, slouching, six-foot-eight slob with a crooked frown line on his forehead waiting in the wings to take Fetterman’s place strains credulity, even in these days of AI and massive fakery everywhere. There could conceivably be a fake Fetterman, but if there is, the biggest evidence of the fakery is not to be found in small details of Fetterman One’s appearance as compared to Fetterman Two. The biggest evidence is that the new Fetterman can speak coherently.

https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/robert-spencer/2023/09/18/rumors-are-flying-that-fetterman-has-been-replaced-with-a-double-but-theyre-missing-the-biggest-oddity-n1727901

JC
JC
September 20, 2023 12:01 am

I think you are talking about Marxists. It’s a particularly nasty religion, of which atheism is a part.

Not really. The biggest kahuna of the lot was a socialist, but not a Marxist. He was a Nazi.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
September 20, 2023 12:03 am

Senator Steele-John.

I’d be happy to assist him and wheel him down the beach to the water at low tide.

Then go to the pub.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 20, 2023 12:09 am

I’d be happy to assist him and wheel him down the beach to the water at low tide.

Be there to help you, and see you in the boozer.

  1. Pelosi. Alcoholic, manipulative, soul dead. reminds me of my MiL. Some of her greatest thrills was creating division among groups…

  2. A non nutty lefty view on the economics of nuclear energy. https://x.com/GrayConnolly/status/1803681147303633263?t=Rc8a043AtdX87EIt_mmRGg&s=19

  3. Peter Khalil’s office in Wills. Wrong type of Egyptian. https://x.com/DrewPavlou/status/1803638552561066443?t=Q9B7JhVwk0ruASnPEVGK9Q&s=19

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