Open Thread – Weekend 30 Sept 2023


Women in the Garden, Claude Monet, 1866

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JC
JC
October 1, 2023 6:29 pm

Rabz

Are you about Sycamore Gap trees or something else. You’re confusing me now.

Just kidding.

Sure, but I never suggested I wanted Seymour dead which is why I made the comment.

Robert Sewell
October 1, 2023 6:34 pm

Because I know you want it,
https://youtu.be/IQUjlOjpeLw
Chainsaws and idiots.

calli
calli
October 1, 2023 6:37 pm

Okay. Best Robin Hood?

Fairbanks
Flynn
Connery
Costner
Elwes
Rusty

Go!

JC
JC
October 1, 2023 6:37 pm

Current shareprice of AUD 5.18, (which should be AUD0.00) not enough compensation for you?

The share price is irrelevant, but no. It wasn’t enough compensation because the firm was still forced to absorb hefty charges through the lockdown, causing the firm to announce losses.It also had to dilute existing shareholders because of a capital raise due to a forced lockdown.

You have it in reverse in terms of the fascism angle. If the government told the firm and others to shut down operations and there wouldn’t be any compensation, then that would indeed veer towards fascism.

The business operates lawfully as a going concern. If the freaking government wants to shut it down, it owes the firm/ shareholders compensation.

Speedbox
October 1, 2023 6:38 pm

Knuckle Dragger
Oct 1, 2023 5:43 PM

It must have been an appalling scene for emergency services.

A triple road train is about110 tonnes. A 7 seat Mitsu Pajero with 6 on board would be about 2.5 tonnes. Closing speed of, say, 220km/h. What a mess.

If this is a murder/suicide, I hope there is a particularly nasty place in Hell for the person responsible (presume driver).

calli
calli
October 1, 2023 6:38 pm

Chuckle. Top o’ page too.

Crossie
Crossie
October 1, 2023 6:39 pm

Siltstone
Oct 1, 2023 6:26 PM
Joyce sold $17 million worth of Qantas shares when he knew the ACCC investigation was underway into selling tickets on non-existent flights. The Board let him.

That’s why I think the whole board should be sacked, not just the chairman. They knew what was coming and still let him monetise his shares and it’s even worse if they didn’t know what was coming. Of course, the fate of the board is in the shareholders’ hands and not mine as I don’t own any Qantas shares.

Dot
Dot
October 1, 2023 6:40 pm

Bashing QANTAS mindlessly isn’t helpful.

I’m very critical of the old and new CEOs.

The new gal has been at QANTAS for 20 years and an executive for a long time. She was the CFO. She never talked to a pilot until recently. Hmmm. The bawling emails are infuriating. No, I don’t like QANTAS. You wanna make feel nice, give me a partial refund.

Old Leprechaun (Ole’ Leppy, Lep to his friends) engaged in running bogus flights that got cancelled the lost time to customers if incurred on a business like QANTAS would be crippling. Flights were then reorganised for efficiency. The other thing which is dodgy is using bogus flights to help hog all of the terminal space. Given the possible collusion with the ALP through King with regards to Qatar Air, the prior possible sham bookings might be an abuse of market power and deceptive & misleading conduct as the Qatar scandal impugns the character of QANTAS.

As for profits, the fleet is horrible now and seems second rate. This will impact dividend growth in coming years.

The golden parachute was too easy for him. Perhaps You get 50% of bonuses in quitting then 10% a year for five years, half of which relies on maintaining dividends based off the projected dividends in annual reports and financial statements attached which you sign off on. Of course the policy ought to be up to the company.

cohenite
October 1, 2023 6:41 pm

“This is happening across the country, and may just be the death blow to the Trudeau Government,” Bexte added. “The election may be a ways away, but he’s done.”

No castro’s boy is not done. Trump is. The anti-left still think the West can be rectified. It can’t. The only thing saving Trump is his security detail. Keep an eye on that not the Fiddler on the Roof court-room antics which only function to sedate and confuse the sheeple.

cohenite
October 1, 2023 6:42 pm

“This is happening across the country, and may just be the death blow to the Trudeau Government,” Bexte added. “The election may be a ways away, but he’s done.”

No Castro’s boy is not done. Trump is. The anti-left still think the West can be rectified. It can’t. The only thing saving Trump is his security detail. Keep an eye on that not the Fiddler on the Roof court-room antics which only function to sedate and confuse the sheeple. When the security detail disappears so does Trump.

Crossie
Crossie
October 1, 2023 6:43 pm

calli
Oct 1, 2023 6:37 PM
Okay. Best Robin Hood?

Fairbanks
Flynn
Connery
Costner
Elwes
Rusty

Go!

Flynn.

JC
JC
October 1, 2023 6:44 pm

Cronkite, learn to code.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 1, 2023 6:47 pm

Bashing QANTAS mindlessly isn’t helpful.

I prefer bashing them intelligently. The Qatar thing was clearly our qwerty champions vs them horrible muslim bigots. Amusing that King is twisting like an expert Twister player atm. Hopefully the Leprechaun will be required to give evidence under oath in an inquiry or some such. I wonder how much Qantas has donated?

bons
bons
October 1, 2023 6:48 pm

Done Box.
Just send over your bank account details and I’ll direct the funds to you.
No, no don’t thank me. I consider it to be my civic duty to help distressed Ugandan princesses. Tony Abott and I do it all the time.

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 1, 2023 6:48 pm

calli
Oct 1, 2023 6:37 PM
Okay. Best Robin Hood?

Fairbanks
Flynn
Connery
Costner
Elwes
Rusty

Go!

More important, how is “Elwes” pronounced?

calli
calli
October 1, 2023 6:48 pm

I love Flynn for dazzlement. Rusty for gritty. Elwes for this.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 1, 2023 6:49 pm

Okay. Best Robin Hood?

John Cleese.

If you know you know.

Crossie
Crossie
October 1, 2023 6:50 pm

The only thing saving Trump is his security detail. Keep an eye on that not the Fiddler on the Roof court-room antics which only function to sedate and confuse the sheeple. When the security detail disappears so does Trump.

I don’t think Trump trusts his Secret Service detail, he has his own security. I think I read somewhere that one of his SS guards informed against him to the DOJ investigators in the documents matter. After what they did in Venezuela when accompanying Obama there with drinking and prostrates I wouldn’t trust them either. Perhaps RFKJ is better off without an SS assigned detail.

Crossie
Crossie
October 1, 2023 6:53 pm

More important, how is “Elwes” pronounced?

I have heard it pronounce like almost two words – El Wes

bons
bons
October 1, 2023 6:53 pm

JC if I recall correctly, you are an admirer of Katherine Hepburn. As am I.
There is a doco in Prime entitled ‘The Great Kate’. It might be worth a look.
They may even show some of the footage of her playing tennis.
That would be worth staying up late for.

Crossie
Crossie
October 1, 2023 6:54 pm

Prostitutes, not prostrates. I must be more careful with proof reading.

JC
JC
October 1, 2023 6:54 pm

Dot

Qantas can generally run older planes because the distances are much longer than for other carriers, which means there’s much fewer takeoffs and landings, which is what causes stress and ages planes quicker. It’s like comparing a car that does mostly city driving to driving long, regular distances in the country. The city car wears out faster.

Also, give them a break about cancellations, etc. They were just starting back up after two years of forced closure. Read Terry McCrann’s comments in a piece he wrote. He said the money not returned was nowhere near the hysterics; it was about 10 mio.

JC
JC
October 1, 2023 6:56 pm

Oh Thanks Bons. The most gorgeous cute owl of the 20th C. How could I miss it.

calli
calli
October 1, 2023 6:57 pm

More important, how is “Elwes” pronounced?

Westley, of course. Buttercup.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 1, 2023 6:58 pm

I’ll help Cats out with a video.

Time Bandits – Robin Hood (1981)

A joy to watch again!

Top Ender
Top Ender
October 1, 2023 6:59 pm

There’s a good article in the Weekend Oz about the inherent corruption of the Qantas Chairman’s Lounge.

I’ll see if I can paste it here.

cohenite
October 1, 2023 7:03 pm

Cronkite, learn to code.

When I go to post I get a message saying my posts are so brilliant they should be posted twice.

MatrixTransform
October 1, 2023 7:05 pm

If the tree is unbalanced in the crown, you obviously let gravity do it’s thing if there is nothing you want to keep in the direction of the fall.

There’s a formula for all this, but I won’t bore you with it.

translation: sancho is always absolutely certain about which trees to bark up

calli
calli
October 1, 2023 7:05 pm

I forgot Frank Sinatra and the 7 hoods.

It’s amazing how some stories gain cultural traction.

JC
JC
October 1, 2023 7:05 pm

Ender

But really, sitting in an albeit very comfortable lounge would induce corruption? Perhaps it’s just me, I can’t even be bothered using the business lounge then traipse to the waiting gate. Perhaps, people do go apeshit about where they’re sitting go get on a freaking flight.

JC
JC
October 1, 2023 7:07 pm

cohenite
Oct 1, 2023 7:03 PM

Cronkite, learn to code.

When I go to post I get a message saying my posts are so brilliant they should be posted twice.

Hahahaha.

Top Ender
Top Ender
October 1, 2023 7:08 pm

Qantas Chairman’s Lounge membership comes at a price

DAVID PENBERTHY
Follow @penbo

Every person has their price. Mine was a Neil Perry club sandwich. For a few sensational years I was a member of the Qantas Chairman’s Lounge. It was an absurd benefit bestowed by dint of marriage. As the husband of a then federal politician, my associate membership turned up unexpectedly in the post some time in 2016. A sexy matt black card, set in a swanky presentation envelope with a personal welcome note from Alan Joyce himself. I umm-ed and ah-ed about the ethics of accepting it but figured no taxpayers were being harmed in the process, and I never reported on aviation so, what the hey, it’s club sandwich time. The sandwiches, I should add, were excellent. As indeed was everything.

In 2019, Dad and I spent a week in New Orleans. We had done New Orleans right, meaning we had done a number on ourselves. We saw about 20 bands in seven days, ate turtle soup, oysters Rockefeller and table-flambéed steak Diane at Brennans, Commanders Palace, Galatoires and Cochon, drank our body weight in bloody Marys, sazeracs and hurricanes. On one action-packed day my medically trained father saved a meth addict from swallowing his tongue while having an epileptic fit, Dad drily saying “Good thing your mother isn’t here”, while I rang 911 and gave the ambos the poor chap’s location.

We needed to return home and re-enter civil society.

Our American Airlines flight from Louis Armstrong International to Dallas Forth Worth was cancelled when lightning hit our plane while preparing for takeoff. We were stuck in New Orleans for another day and missed our Qantas flight from Dallas to Sydney. We were completely stuffed as the flights weren’t connected, so when we made it to Dallas the following day, Qantas figured we were just no-shows. We wound up stuck in a giant, motionless queue with hundreds of people in the same situation, nervously watching the clock as the economy check-in staff moved at glacial pace towards resolving our concerns. We were going to miss our flight home again.

I told Dad I had an idea. “Maybe we should give the Chairman’s card a whirl and see if it helps?”

We approached the first-class desk. I was dressed like a dag in jeans, sneakers and a New Orleans Saints NFL T-shirt. The guy at the counter said tersely: “No cutting the queue, this area is for first-class passengers only.”

“Yes, I know, I was just wondering if, as Qantas Chairman’s Lounge members, we are in the right spot?”

His demeanour changed in an instant. “Oh sir, I’m sorry, you shouldn’t be here at all! See that escalator? Just go up there to those double doors and they will look after you.”

The doors opened. Dad and I were bathed in golden light. We were in the American Airlines First Class lounge. I explained our situation to the concierge, a stunning 40-something Texan woman with sculpted American hair.

“Now Dave, I’m a Cowboys girl and normally wouldn’t help a Saints fan, but in your case I’m going to make an exception. Y’all get yourselves a drink. Leave your passports with me and I’ll have this sorted in a flash.”

Three minutes later we were sitting in deep leather chairs eating jumbo shrimp and veal tournedos with asparagus and bearnaise sauce and sharing a bottle of Hugel riesling. The concierge sashayed over just before the cheese plate arrived and handed us our passports and boarding passes.

I mention this story for two reasons: one, it was one of the more entertaining experiences of my life, and two, nothing exposes the yawning gulf in the travelling experience than the two worlds we inhabited at DFW that night.

By simply flashing that little black card, we exited a miserable place where frazzled travellers were crying and shouting, recharging dead phone batteries on powerpoints in the wall, waiting for toilet cubicles to become free, sleeping on the ground, paying through the nose for food and drinks … to another where a woman who looked like Raquel Welch would sort out your flight dramas while you ate giant prawns someone had already peeled for you and then had a hot shower with exotic unguents and poultices before floating on to the plane.

Herein lies the problem with the Chairman’s Lounge. As I said, the cost of running something as extravagant as the Chairman’s Lounge is borne entirely by Qantas. But there is no quid without a pro quo. For Qantas, the Chairman’s Lounge is akin to what’s known in international relations as soft diplomacy. Whatever its actual costs are to the national carrier, the unquantifiable benefits to the airline are threefold: it makes Chairman’s Lounge members think more highly of Qantas, it makes them feel less inclined or wholly uninclined towards being critical of Qantas, and it gives them absolutely no capacity to relate to the lived experience of economy-class passengers.

Who are the people who find themselves in this happy situation? Only every senior decision-maker, policy-framer and opinion-shaper in the land, every federal MP, premier and opposition leader, many if not most state ministers, every senior judge, chief executives, senior members of the media, and all of their families, the happy hangers-on like my old man and I, living the maxim allez les bon temps rouler on Alan’s expense en route from The Big Easy.

I didn’t use the Chairman’s Lounge that often in Australia, mainly because I don’t travel much, but whenever I did I would bump into Labor, Liberal and Greens MPs who I knew through my work. In light of the scandals that have beset Qantas over the largesse afforded to Joyce, its treatment of its staff and customers and its reputational collapse versus historically less well-regarded airlines, you can’t help but wonder whether every one of them has been a bit co-opted by the chumminess of it all.

The motivation of Qantas in what is superficially an innocent act of corporate generosity was plainly illustrated by what happened when my wife quit politics. We received a letter from Qantas soon after explaining that regretfully her and my membership would be expiring.

I can’t stress enough, that is not a complaint. I should thank Qantas for all the fun I had. But it does say something about the transactional nature of the arrangement, where the intention quite clearly on the airline’s part is to make people in positions of policy influence feel indebted and co-opted, and to send them politely on their way when they return to being just another average punter.

A question for me here. Would I have written this piece or others bagging Qantas if I were still a Chairman’s Lounge member? You would hope the answer to that is yes. Without fear or favour, to employ a journalistic cliche. But you know, those club sandwiches …

For what it’s worth, my theory is that the avalanche of media criticism this past few months has been like a dam wall bursting. Historically, the press had pulled its punches with the national carrier, in part because of the relationships outlined above. As Joyce and the airline were left exposed, as per the emperor’s clothes, fighting fires on so many fronts ranging from reliability to cost to remuneration to the uproar over Qatar’s expansion plans, the media has entered all-bets-are-off mode. About time too, frankly. It was all a bit cute, and suss, and as Groucho Marx said, I don’t care to belong to any club that will have me as a member.

DAVID PENBERTHY COLUMNIST

Link

Makka
Makka
October 1, 2023 7:12 pm

The fascist fat cat protection brigade doing overtime this evening.

Beatification ceremonies to follow.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 1, 2023 7:13 pm

Tina Turner impersonator as pre-match to the NRL’s second-rate attempt to match the AFL Grand Final.

Woeful, on both counts.

calli
calli
October 1, 2023 7:13 pm

But really, sitting in an albeit very comfortable lounge would induce corruption?

Oh, I can imagine the inducement.

Even humble me. On a ten hour connection.

Mark from Melbourne
Mark from Melbourne
October 1, 2023 7:14 pm

Okay. Best Robin Hood?

Fairbanks
Flynn
Connery
Costner
Elwes
Rusty

All vying for second place after the masterly Richard Greene.

Cassie of Sydney
October 1, 2023 7:16 pm

I think Flynn, for sheer sex appeal.

Cassie of Sydney
October 1, 2023 7:18 pm

I still love Basil Rathbone as Sherlock Holmes, although I also loved the late and very wonderful actor, Jeremy Brett.

P
P
October 1, 2023 7:18 pm

Robert Sewell
Oct 1, 2023 5:56 PM

and bricks which had been 2 pounds per thousand could not be got under 8 pounds.

P, that’s very light for a thousand bricks.

Further to your question (I was cooking dinner at the time):

A Scotch Kiln was the type of kiln used by brickmakers in Australia in the 1850s.

A rectangular hole was dug in the ground and the bricks were stacked in the hole with alternative layers of timber, the kiln was covered with clay leaving a few holes for escape of smoke, the timber was lit and the burning timber fired the bricks.

The advantages of a Scotch Kiln was its ease of construction and lack of chimney.
They were used throughout Australia by generations of brickmakers who travelled with their brickmould and tools wherever they found suitable clay. Here they would dig the clay, building a scotch kiln, burn the bricks and move on, leaving nothing but a hole in the ground as evidence of their trade.

A constant supply of fresh water and suitable clay were the first requirements for brickmaking at that time and the method was such:
An empty bottomless mould, lubricated with sand, is placed on a stock board which often has a raised frog on it.
(The term “frog”in brickmaking refers to the depression made in the larger side of the brick to form a key for the mortar at the joints.)
The Clay is placed into the mould, scraped level with the mould, and then the mould and the stock board are placed upside down and the brick slides out of the mould.

The sand which is put around the mould helps to free the clay from the mould, and the stock is the board with frog marks on it – hence Sand Stock Bricks.

JC
JC
October 1, 2023 7:19 pm

Triggered alert, from the pinhead.

Dover, Dover, you, you see that?

Dover!

Salvatore, Iron Publican
October 1, 2023 7:19 pm

Calli, Pogria: Get your laughing boots on. It seems there was a misunderstanding on my part about the replacement tree (Sycamore Gap) the one inside the protective stone circle, to keep sheep from it.

Yes, the stone wall kept sheep away. The replacement tree was instead eaten by cattle. 🙂

JC
JC
October 1, 2023 7:20 pm

Even humble me. On a ten hour connection.

How often does that happen?

calli
calli
October 1, 2023 7:20 pm

I mention this story for two reasons: one, it was one of the more entertaining experiences of my life, and two, nothing exposes the yawning gulf in the travelling experience than the two worlds we inhabited at DFW that night.

Oh yes. And that’s where soft corruption works its magic.

calli
calli
October 1, 2023 7:21 pm

More often than you think. We fly FFPs. And sometimes it’s a long time between flights.

My choice. My lookout.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 1, 2023 7:23 pm

Where is Phabulous Phil Coorey getting his 17% undecided from?
With “No” sitting a touch over 50 pussent and “Yes” languishing in the mid 30’s maybe?
What’s his point?
That the 17 pussent will all flip to Yes?
Tell him he’s dreamin’.

JC
JC
October 1, 2023 7:24 pm

More often than you think. We fly FFPs. And sometimes it’s a long time between flights.

My choice. My lookout.

10 hours and you should take a room in the airport hotel.

Makka
Makka
October 1, 2023 7:25 pm

Here we go. Up the mighty Broncos!

calli
calli
October 1, 2023 7:26 pm

When I can I do. Not always possible. Doing that at Haneda in six weeks time.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 1, 2023 7:32 pm

There’s a good article in the Weekend Oz about the inherent corruption of the Qantas Chairman’s Lounge.

From Mr Kate Ellis no less. I’m in the trough, but not by choice you must understand.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 1, 2023 7:34 pm

Here we go. Up the mighty Broncos!

What chance Qld is 0 for 2 this weekend?

I had no stake yesterday, except Magpies are nicer. At least the Cafe ones might say that, but I don’t think they follow footy.

JC
JC
October 1, 2023 7:34 pm

When I can I do. Not always possible. Doing that at Haneda in six weeks time.

What’s with Japan at the moment? Appears to be very popular.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 1, 2023 7:35 pm

Has anyone ever actually made a club sandwich at home?

JC
JC
October 1, 2023 7:39 pm

H B Bear
Oct 1, 2023 7:35 PM

Has anyone ever actually made a club sandwich at home?

With the toothpicks too?

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 1, 2023 7:40 pm

Has anyone ever actually made a club sandwich at home?

Toast. Put meat on toast. Toothpick.

Give me ten minutes.

MatrixTransform
October 1, 2023 7:41 pm

HB, yes

after school, inspired by Dagwood

Rosie
Rosie
October 1, 2023 7:44 pm

Why not Japan?
The exchange rate is pretty good atm.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 1, 2023 7:46 pm

Has anyone ever actually made a club sandwich at home?

Bear – I’ve never had a club sandwich, they look pretty decent.

Lunch at the Cafe today was a half club sandwich…chicken, lettuce, mayonnaise. I do have some bacon and tomato in the fridge. But I’m out of chicken, so I can’t try the real thing until I get to Coles for resupply.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 1, 2023 7:49 pm

Bear – I’ve never had a club sandwich, they look pretty decent.

Almost compulsory if you have access to room service for the full hotel experience.

JC
JC
October 1, 2023 7:49 pm

Rosie
Oct 1, 2023 7:44 PM
Why not Japan?
The exchange rate is pretty good atm.

I was just making an observation that people have been going there. Sounds popular.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 1, 2023 7:51 pm

Look, Qantas has taken the eye off the customer ball even more than usual, driven by hubris from the CEO down to the baggage handlers. One could argue their political activism has also been a mistake, but I don’t rate that anywhere near the commercial damage done by their shabby treatment of customers (and it’s not just flight credits).
But, weally Wodney Woddenhead?
Swallowing the ABC line on this?
Since Q got into trouble the ABC have been sticking the boots in, but not from the customer service angle. It’s all about getting the Union band back together and running it like Ansett circa 1995.
So their go-to guys are the ex LAME union head (Purvinas), pilots union and AWU. Why do you reckon the “investment guy” was on their speed-dial Wodney?
Wouldn’t be up to his ears in QAN short positions by any chance, would he?

Dot
Dot
October 1, 2023 7:54 pm

Has anyone ever actually made a club sandwich at home?

Yeah.

It’s a shitfight.

Much easier to cook up a steak or some pasta.

Dot
Dot
October 1, 2023 7:55 pm

Broncos line drop out, really? Wasn’t the Broncos player tackled with out the ball!?

JC
JC
October 1, 2023 7:56 pm

Sanchez

Ultimately, the proof will be in the pudding because all these negative feelings people have against Q will have to translate into loss of market share, both international, but more so domestically. We’ll see next quarterly.

Rosie
Rosie
October 1, 2023 7:57 pm

I was agreeing. I’m just suggesting with the Aussie sinking again USD etc it’s cheapish.
We shared hotel with Aussie kids on a ‘cultural exchange’.
20 students, 5 teachers.

JC
JC
October 1, 2023 7:59 pm

no probs, Rosie.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 1, 2023 8:01 pm

Snake wars.
OK, I’m not keeping a red bellied black as a pet, right.
But, on a scale of 1 to 10 (taking into account toxicity of venom and aggression), I am rating them a 2 against tigers, taipans, browns (all 8+) or even copperheads (5).
(There is a formula for this, but I won’t bore you with it).
Here’s the clincher.
Red bellied blacks are highly territorial when it comes to other snakes. If you have one in your yard, it is highly unlikely you will tread on a tiger snake or anything else equally dangerous.

Dot
Dot
October 1, 2023 8:02 pm

A few minutes ago:

Penrith get away with it in a similar situation in the tryline corner, this time as defenders!

Dot
Dot
October 1, 2023 8:04 pm

The NRL are ridiculous. A non forward pass can be “dragged forward” by the receiver of the ball BUT they let in two Broncos tries last week off run of the mill BLATANT forward passes.

A shambles of the highest order.

Dot
Dot
October 1, 2023 8:14 pm

He said the money not returned was nowhere near the hysterics; it was about 10 mio.

It’s not entirely about the money, it’s how they could have used the bogus flights to hog terminal space.

Still, $10 mn of ill gotten gains is still $10 mn.

As for the planes both planes in my return trip has problems before taking off and the passenger amenities seemed tacky.

They can let standards slide without competitive pressure.

Black Ball
Black Ball
October 1, 2023 8:14 pm

Oh and up the Mighty Pies!

Roger
Roger
October 1, 2023 8:15 pm

Qantas Chairman’s Lounge membership comes at a price

Ya think?

JC
JC
October 1, 2023 8:17 pm

Dot

What’s you view on the Gulf Airlines receiving fuel and borrowing subsidies with respect to competition from airlines that don’t have that luxury?

Dot
Dot
October 1, 2023 8:18 pm

Like Airbus – not much we can do.

Luzu
Luzu
October 1, 2023 8:19 pm

Not emotionally invested either way but I have money on the Panthers.

The extended fam are over, I have cooked a lot of food and everybody is yelling at the TV. Good times!

JC
JC
October 1, 2023 8:21 pm

Well there is. We let in or we don’t.

Dot
Dot
October 1, 2023 8:23 pm

These ads – apart from old, I can’t imagine drinking Tooheys except under duress.

Now I understand why the NSW City team was always so angry.

Makka
Makka
October 1, 2023 8:25 pm

An epic struggle. Panthers tackled to a constant standstill 10m out from Broncs line.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 1, 2023 8:26 pm

Daily Mail.

Viewers slam NRL grand final entertainment with ‘knock off’ Tina Turner as ‘something you’d see at Rooty Hill RSL’: ‘That’s embarrassing!

Roger
Roger
October 1, 2023 8:32 pm

The NRL are ridiculous.

Don’t tell me they hired KISS for the pre-match…

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
October 1, 2023 8:33 pm

Qantas can generally run older planes because the distances are much longer than for other carriers, which means there’s much fewer takeoffs and landings, which is what causes stress and ages planes quicker.

I believe Aloha Airlines found this out the hard way.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aloha_Airlines_Flight_243

Real Deal
Real Deal
October 1, 2023 8:33 pm

Okay. Best Robin Hood?

John Cleese.

If you know you know.

Yes Bruce, agreed.

Jolly good.

Makka
Makka
October 1, 2023 8:33 pm

Viewers slam NRL grand final entertainment with ‘knock off’ Tina Turner

Better than a bunch of geriatrics in make up.

calli
calli
October 1, 2023 8:33 pm

Is some sort of sport on tonight? 🙂

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 1, 2023 8:33 pm

JC

Oct 1, 2023 7:56 PM

Sanchez

Ultimately, the proof will be in the pudding because all these negative feelings people have against Q will have to translate into loss of market share, both international, but more so domestically. We’ll see next quarterly.

Which is where this should be decided.
In the market.
Wodney’s ABC-sourced solution to forcibly turn it into some sort of aviation version of Bwitish Lleyland isn’t going to cut it.
If, as you say, the flight credit thing was so minor, why didn’t they just fix it?
I mean, I’ve worked with CEO’s and Chairmen who would say, “$10 million? Really? That all? Just fkn fix it. Let me know when it is done. Any time before Friday lunchtime will be fine.”

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 1, 2023 8:34 pm

Tina Turner at Rooty Hill RSL would be a fine gig. I’d attend,

Nutbush (1973)

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 1, 2023 8:35 pm

Qantas Chairman’s Lounge membership comes at a price

I must say I quite enjoyed my (brief) period when I rose to Silver FF. I’m easily bought. Even those every 10th free coffees.

JC
JC
October 1, 2023 8:38 pm

RDoc

That’s just plane they turned into a convertible and had the hood down.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 1, 2023 8:38 pm

Better than a bunch of geriatrics in make up.

Oi! KISS are virtuous, I’ll have you know.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 1, 2023 8:42 pm

Better than a bunch of geriatrics in make up.

That’s basically the entire music industry now. You’ll have to be more specific.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
October 1, 2023 8:43 pm

Fat Tina with strainer post legs and moved like a B double.
The real Tina had a fabulous set of pins and was a proper dancer.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
October 1, 2023 8:44 pm

Rooty Hill RSL

Was out near there little over a week ago. 2 Garbage trucks with Blacktown City Council markings were there everyday as we went past at around midday parked outside, host & I were wondering either avid punters or whether maybe long lunches were still a thing in western Sydney…

WolfmanOz
October 1, 2023 8:44 pm

Mark from Melbourne
Oct 1, 2023 7:14 PM
Okay. Best Robin Hood?

Fairbanks
Flynn
Connery
Costner
Elwes
Rusty

All vying for second place after the masterly Richard Greene.

There’s only one Errol Flynn !

https://youtu.be/0EEhx3bx3qU

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 1, 2023 8:44 pm

Rockdoctor

Oct 1, 2023 8:33 PM

Qantas can generally run older planes because the distances are much longer than for other carriers, which means there’s much fewer takeoffs and landings, which is what causes stress and ages planes quicker.

I believe Aloha Airlines found this out the hard way.

Yes.
As did JAL when the rear bulkhead blew off a 747 and killed over 500 people. Admittedly the JAL incident was exacerbated by a previous tailstrike and a poorly executed repair, but the high number of pressurisation cycles was a contributor.
There is a formula for airframe fatigue contributed to by cycles and raw hours flown, but I won’t bore you with it.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
October 1, 2023 8:46 pm

Qantas can generally run older planes because the distances are much longer than for other carriers, which means there’s much fewer takeoffs and landings, which is what causes stress and ages planes quicker.

Crikey. A takeoff, climb, hull pressurisation, descent & landing are called a “cycle”.
Each aircraft has a rated number of takeoff/landing cycles. Generally the larger (i.e. longhaul) the aircraft, the lower the number of cycles.
747 have about half the number of flights before the hull has to be retired than say a 777. An airbus A380 has (from memory) about half the cycles of a 747.

Performing one cycle per day for a 747 wouldn’t make it last much longer than a 737 doing 3 flights per day, as the 737 is rated at almost 3x the number of cycles of a 747

Hope this helps.

Makka
Makka
October 1, 2023 8:46 pm

Not easy to take on a tribute to an icon like Tina. She did a bang up job and left nothing in the tank.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 1, 2023 8:46 pm

Even the online booking system seemed less of a pain in the ass, although that may just have been a placebo effect. Getting bumped into Business for Heathrow to Singapore was an unexpected bonus.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
October 1, 2023 8:47 pm

There is a formula for airframe fatigue contributed to by cycles and raw hours flown, but I won’t bore you with it.

That formula is simple:
Manufacturer says “this many cycles”
End of formula.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 1, 2023 8:49 pm

Some of the airfares paid by people for their Euro getaways at the moment are eye watering.

Rabz
October 1, 2023 8:51 pm

The Black Cats have gone to sleep …

WolfmanOz
October 1, 2023 8:53 pm

Apart from my post a few minutes ago I have been unable to post/comment these last few days (on a number of posts) as I keep on getting Internal Server Error.

Tried different browsers and devices, cleared caches etc but it’s pretty much all the same.

It’s getting to the point where I’m pretty close on giving up on this site.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
October 1, 2023 8:53 pm

Some of the airfares paid by people for their Euro getaways at the moment are eye watering.

I may need to fly to Melbourne in November for pers business. Domestic fares are not much removed, the direct flight with Alliance is worse than the connections thru BNE. Otherwise it is Nostar with a red eye run and no Skybus at the other end.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 1, 2023 8:53 pm

Interesting thing about pressurisation in an aircraft.
You are not pressurised to sea level.
I checked my Brietling Biggles watch whilst travelling at 39,000 feet on the trip to Japan.
The very expensive watch told me I was at 7,000 feet.
I trust the little altimeter system in the watch was accurate.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 1, 2023 8:54 pm

Tina Turner at Rooty Hill RSL would be a fine gig. I’d attend,

Tina Turner at good old “Shagger’s Ridge” R.S.L……

Makka
Makka
October 1, 2023 8:56 pm

That 2… TWO missed tackles from the overated Cleary to let in Broncos tries!

calli
calli
October 1, 2023 8:57 pm

It’s getting to the point where I’m pretty close on giving up on this site.

Don’t give up Wolfman. I’ve had the same problem, usually when the thread gets to 8-10+ pages.

You are a valuable commenter.

calli
calli
October 1, 2023 9:01 pm

Some of the airfares paid by people for their Euro getaways at the moment are eye watering.

The Beloved was quoted around $1k return to the GC from Sydney this weekend. Needless to say he didn’t bite.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 1, 2023 9:04 pm

Test.

Tartaria.

Cassie of Sydney
October 1, 2023 9:05 pm

“It’s getting to the point where I’m pretty close on giving up on this site.”

It’s working okay for me, albeit slow sometimes.

Please don’t give up, we value you.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 1, 2023 9:07 pm

It would appear there are certain combinations of letters and/or words that causes the server to spack out.

JC
JC
October 1, 2023 9:08 pm

Interesting thing about pressurisation in an aircraft.
You are not pressurised to sea level.

That and the lack of humidity in older planes makes you feel like a dried log.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
October 1, 2023 9:08 pm

Watching the chat replay, this dog is popular across the planet. So many people from so many countries.

—-

woof bark growl:

Cash 2.0 Great Dane Livestream 09-30-2023

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 1, 2023 9:08 pm

Not just the R word.

Other random stuff. Or, the server doesn’t want me to take the piss of the Tina Turner impersonator.

JC
JC
October 1, 2023 9:11 pm

Tickler

That’s more than an hour and a half viewing time!

Rabz
October 1, 2023 9:11 pm

The Black Cats are back, back baby, back!

calli
calli
October 1, 2023 9:12 pm

It would appear there are certain combinations of letters and/or words that causes the server to spack out.

Thermomix.

calli
calli
October 1, 2023 9:13 pm

Nope.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
October 1, 2023 9:13 pm

Cali its funny. When I was a child dad drove us everywhere, Brisbane/Sydney/Melbourne. Usually overnight and in 1 hit. Was cheaper than flying, only 1 time I flew as a youngster and that was on a B727 from BNE-SYD that I would have been about 4yo. I remember the 3 engines mounted rear on fuselage/tail and walking up a stairwell into the back. Mum informs me it cost dad over a fortnights pay and that he only forked it out because my brother was 2 months old and they didn’t want him screaming the 12 plus hour drive down the Pacific Hwy.

I’ve noticed lately doing sums we are getting back to that, especially if you are a family.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 1, 2023 9:14 pm

Manufacturer says “this many cycles”
End of formula.

Which changed significantly after the Aloha 737 did a passable impression of a sardine can.
The science of pressurisation cycles in 2023 is largely settled.
But it was a yuuuge learning curve from the 50’s to the 80’s, starting with purely catastrophic failures of under-specced airframes (Comet), the effect of high cycles in a corrosive environment (Aloha) and the impact of high cycles after poorly executed repairs to crunched airframe (JAL).
Whilst not a cycle problem per se, the United 747 which lost a forward cargo door (and 9 passengers) over the Pacific, was a fatigue problem partially caused by constant cycling.
Boeing never openly admitted it, but suddenly field program to beef up “Section 41” was embarked upon.
As an engineer explained it at a conference I attended on fatigue:-

“You build something like this (pointing to the funny ovoid shape which was the cross-section of the 747 forward section). You then pump it up a few thousand times. Every time you do that to this shape it wants to be round. Which weakens it here (pointing to the junction between the two shapes).”

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 1, 2023 9:16 pm

A thousand bucks for SYD to Coolangatta? On the Pogo Stick. Yikes.

One of my greater regrets was not getting the phone number of the stewardess on a NCL-BNE Qantaslink flight. Newcastle-Kempsey-Coffs Harbour-Coolangatta-Brisbane.

Guy in front of me threw up as we were coming into Coolie, I helped her clean up the mess. Easier on QL flights since the seats were vinyl. She said thanks “Bruce” as I left at BNE, having taken the trouble to work who I was. It was nice!

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 1, 2023 9:17 pm

Anybody know how to link to Andrew Bolt, and his programme on this “Aboriginal” woman and her stupid “Songlines?’ I can’t believe the legal system took her seriously!

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
October 1, 2023 9:19 pm

JC
Oct 1, 2023 9:11 PM
Tickler

That’s more than an hour and a half viewing time!

I enjoyed it.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
October 1, 2023 9:20 pm

Wash your mouth out calli. Thermomix and cooking have nothing to do with each other. I’m not going to sleep tonight. How could you?

JC
JC
October 1, 2023 9:21 pm

Sanchez

A friend did materials science at MIT and graduated with a PhD in corrosion (yeah seriously). He can be very oddly funny. He reckons he always checks the state of the rivets around door that you see when entering the cabin. He’s only refused to get on a plane on some joy-flight in Queersland. Look out for the rivets.

Rabz
October 1, 2023 9:22 pm

The Cleary!

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 1, 2023 9:22 pm

JC

Oct 1, 2023 9:08 PM

Interesting thing about pressurisation in an aircraft.
You are not pressurised to sea level.

That and the lack of humidity in older planes makes you feel like a dried log

The big thing about the Dreamliner was that it was pressurised to 6,000 feet, rather than 8,000 feet.
They improved the aircon too, but that is way above my pay-grade.
We’d need a God Oracle to explain that.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
October 1, 2023 9:23 pm

Thancho, one of my rellies was a designer on the Comet and Trident.

Cassie of Sydney
October 1, 2023 9:23 pm

When I was a child dad drove us everywhere,”

Yes, growing up, Dad drove us everywhere, when we still lived in Sydney, we’d drive to Canberra (regularly), Newcastle, Brisbane and so on. When we moved to Perth, we drove from Perth to Sydney, via Adelaide, in order to see family here in Sydney. Airfares back in the 1970s and early 1980s were exorbitant, it was simply unaffordable for whole families to fly. So, most people got in their cars and drove everywhere In 1978, when we drove Perth to Sydney, we squeezed into the family Renault, travelled with our two dogs in the car, and Mum and Dad both smoked at the time.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 1, 2023 9:27 pm

Cop that you Brisbane flogs.

This is what happens when you name your town Meanjin.

P
P
October 1, 2023 9:29 pm

Anybody know how to link to Andrew Bolt

Go to Sky News Australia Videos and scroll down.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
October 1, 2023 9:29 pm

Cop that you Brisbane flogs

Uh taking Broncos lost?

Rabz
October 1, 2023 9:31 pm

Panthers!

Mark from Melbourne
Mark from Melbourne
October 1, 2023 9:32 pm

It would appear there are certain combinations of letters and/or words that causes the server to spack out.

There are – obviously – a few things at play in the error department.

Post content (unless you post too many links, or naughty words) is most definitely not one of them

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 1, 2023 9:35 pm

JC at 9:21.
Yes.
A passenger or flight attendant on Aloha noticed something funny around the door before boarding the sardine can flight.
Your pal is right.
Even in non-pressurised aircraft you look for tell-tale signs of incipient structural failure … wrinkled skin, rivets working loose, paint showing signs of flaking or crazing where it shouldn’t.
And, like your house, when doors don’t shut properly, it’s a bad sign.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 1, 2023 9:35 pm

Uh taking Broncos lost?

By two. Yesterday it was by four. A good weekend had by all footy fans!

Black Ball
Black Ball
October 1, 2023 9:37 pm

Be a shit time in Brisvegas right now. But then again, eat many bags of dicks.

MatrixTransform
October 1, 2023 9:39 pm

Look out for the rivets.

oh … that reminds me

since he’s too busy barking at trees from 39000 ft

please let sancho know that there’s only one ‘T’ in riveting

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 1, 2023 9:39 pm

Anybody know how to link to Andrew Bolt

Go to Sky News Australia Videos and scroll down.

Thank you, P. I am obliged to you.

shatterzzz
October 1, 2023 9:42 pm

Rooty Hill RSL
Was out near there little over a week ago. 2 Garbage trucks with Blacktown City Council markings were there everyday as we went past at around midday parked outside, host & I were wondering either avid punters or whether maybe long lunches were still a thing in western Sydney…

Probably, just some council wukkas borrowed them to go to lunch .. Blacktown CC garbage/main transport depot is just outside Rooty Hill railway station .. about 3 to 5 minutes drive from the RSL ………

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
October 1, 2023 9:44 pm

Anyone point me towards the famous-ish quote, “the purpose of a university is to teach a young man to despise his father”?
Thought it was Twain, AI google gulag not helping me

cohenite
October 1, 2023 9:44 pm

Whacky world of islam: continual slaughter of Christians:

‘Whenever They Want to Kill, They Kill’: The Persecution of Christians, August 2023.

Christians are like conservatives; they don’t fight back.

Black Ball
Black Ball
October 1, 2023 9:44 pm

Piers Akerman:

In a desperate attempt to claw back waverers, media supporters of the Voice to Parliament campaign are highlighting those who have switched their prospective vote from No to Yes. But would anyone really follow Melbourne activist Tarneen Onus Browne on his journey to Yes remembering Browne has also told an Invasion Day rally of hopes Australia would “burn to the ground”?Perhaps vacuous virtue-signallers such as teal MP Allegra Spender might explain how they can rationalise being in the same camp as Browne or foul-mouthed independent Indigenous senator Lidia Thorpe, even Noel Pearson, in backing a near-permanent change to the Constitution. Another twig Yes supporters are clutching at is the fact the Uluru statement was awarded the Sydney Peace Prize for 2021-22.

Professor Dr Megan Davis, one of the authors who acknowledged it is not just a single document (though she recanted once the damning background documents with their demands for reparations were revealed) has brandished the prize as though it was some great honour.

One of the taxpayer-funded ABC’s many activists, Radio National presenter Patricia Karvelas, is another who has trumpeted the award as proof of something or other when it has been overwhelmingly given to those who support the Left-wing other.

Past Sydney Peace Prize winners have included the #MeToo movement, which so severely rebounded on women, many companies expressed reluctance to employ attractive women and have been found more likely to exclude them from social interactions because of an increased fear of accusations of sexual discrimination.

Then there is the Black Lives Matter organisation, whose Marxist goals included the abolition of the family, queer-affirming and trans-affirming, and whose own financial report claimed it raised $93m in 2020 though there is just $60m in its bank account while its founders have gone into hiding. Oh, and BLM also wants to abolish the prison system and the courts. Expatriate Leftist polemicist John Pilger, for whom the conservative wit Auberon Waugh, coined the word “pilgerism” to describe the writer’s reliably Left-wing stance on everything, has been another winner.

Elitist inner-urban Yes proponents offer nothing but the vibe and the vague promise any concerns raised by the prospect of a huge change to the Constitution separating Australians into two classes – those who claim to have an Aboriginal ancestor no matter how distant, and the rest – will be dealt with in the future.

The No campaign is on firmer ground with its view that all Australians should be treated equally under the Constitution and that race should be irrelevant in our multicultural society. That was the hope of the greatest leaders of genuine peace movements of the past century – Mahatma Gandhi, Martin Luther King and Nelson Mandela. I’m cautiously optimistic the No vote will prevail on October 14.

When the dust settles, Prime Minister Anthony Albanese and Indigenous Australians Minister Linda Burney should actually listen to the voices of courageous Indigenous leaders such as Northern Territory senator Jacinta Nampijinpa Price and her constituents.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 1, 2023 9:44 pm

Do Roy and HG still do Festival of the Boot? I haven’t listened to the ABC for the longest time, but their efforts on Grand Final weekend were always worthy. Alas an aeon has passed since the days I’d listen to their call.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
October 1, 2023 9:45 pm

…and, speaking of snake hazards…
Mutt of the Weekend.
Staffy – Jack Russell! What could go right?

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
October 1, 2023 9:46 pm

Mate of mine built a hang glider. Didn’t deburr the inside of the rivet holes. Rivets didn’t grip properly and the guy using it died in the crash.

cohenite
October 1, 2023 9:46 pm

That’s 0 out of 2 for the toads. Palachook is stuffed.

shatterzzz
October 1, 2023 9:53 pm

It’s getting to the point where I’m pretty close on giving up on this site.

8.30pm last Thursday night .. everything running AOK until I typed a comment & pressed enter .. 6 time-outs and 3 site unavailable msgs .. before calling it quitz for the night around 8.50pm ..
Friday morning back to normal & no probs since ……….. lotza things crossed ..!

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 1, 2023 9:54 pm

GreyRanga

Oct 1, 2023 9:23 PM

Thancho, one of my rellies was a designer on the Comet and Trident.

Crikey!
They were leaping into the unknown a bit.
From memory it was a variation on the “wants to be round” 747 problem. The windows were square-ish with rounded corners, which is were the cracking started. The sudden catastrophic failure wasn’t something they had contemplated. I think they thought any failures would be slow and detected in regular inspections.
Didn’t the Comet (or derivative) have a life as a RAF aircraft?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 1, 2023 9:59 pm

GreyRanga

Oct 1, 2023 9:46 PM

Mate of mine built a hang glider. Didn’t deburr the inside of the rivet holes. Rivets didn’t grip properly and the guy using it died in the crash.

Way back when I remember meeting a guy from Pilatus who supplied the PC9 to the RAAF. Certain bits were constructed in Australia and he was going nuts about the number of eccentric holes drilled in the wing spars here. Every one of them knocked time off the service life of the spar (and buckets of dollars off their bottom line).
It’s the little things.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 1, 2023 10:05 pm

Didn’t the Comet (or derivative) have a life as a RAF aircraft?

Nimrod Patrol aircraft – entered service as a replacement for the Shackleton.

MatrixTransform
October 1, 2023 10:08 pm

It’s the little things

like yr little Lego hands?

Luzu
Luzu
October 1, 2023 10:10 pm

Right.

So not only did I have an amazing time with the fam, I made $30!

(I never bet a lot and only on sports where I have a bit of a feel for the likely outcome.)

Best Grand Final evah!

I may have OD’d on salad but…

billie
billie
October 1, 2023 10:13 pm

secret song business

again with this mystical pretense?

It’ll be everywhere now, since it works

what’s wrong with our legal system these days?

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
October 1, 2023 10:14 pm

Thancho, I seem to recall he was the chief designer as well. Its in the family history book someone has. It was developed into the Nimrod

Turnip
Turnip
October 1, 2023 10:14 pm

Do Roy and HG still do Festival of the Boot? I haven’t listened to the ABC for the longest time, but their efforts on Grand Final weekend were always worthy.

No more “Boot” but they do a 2 hour show on Saturdays (available on podcast) that is as good as anything they have done. Usually focussed on League but mention other sports as well. Being only 90 minutes (removing music) they seem more focussed. The planned trip to Vegas has been a rich mine for material with promotional ideas ( mainly around pig shooting and poker machines).

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 1, 2023 10:15 pm

Daily Mail.

Oregon middle school refuses to say if hulking bully filmed pulverizing much smaller girl to floor on hallway is transgender, after sickening clip triggered bomb threat

Student at Hazelbrook Middle School in Tualatin was seen dragging another pupil by her backpack in the hallway before pulling her hair and hitting her
Police arrested the alleged attacker who is now facing assault charges and the case has been referred to the Washington County Juvenile Department
The school was forced to evacuate everyone on Friday after threats of bombs and a school shooting were made following uproar over the attack

Black Ball
Black Ball
October 1, 2023 10:17 pm

Ryder Cup on too. Europe up by 5 points right now

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 1, 2023 10:17 pm

Thanks Ranga.
Not his fault. Leading edge and bleeding edge stuff.
The Nimrod.
Submarine surveillance I think.
Worked fine once the problem was understood.
But it was never taking paying passengers again.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 1, 2023 10:19 pm

It’ll be everywhere now, since it works

Started with secret women’s business.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 1, 2023 10:22 pm

FWIW, I kind of liked the look of the Comet, with the engines buried into the wing root.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
October 1, 2023 10:23 pm

Update on Professor Spitty: It turns out shortly after Professor Spitty expectorated on the No voter, that one of the ALP blokes who was there went & King Hit the same No voter bloke.

This was captured on video.

From Cossack, via Rukshan.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 1, 2023 10:24 pm

I may have OD’d on salad but…

Salad at a Grand Final do?
Say it ain’t so!

Pogria
Pogria
October 1, 2023 10:24 pm

Wolfman,
if you give up on us, I’ll know you didn’t choose the double stitch. 😀

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 1, 2023 10:35 pm

WA to end commercial logging of native forests
By Kathryn Magann
October 1, 2023 — 2.53pm

Listen to this article
2 min

Western Australia has joined Victoria in banning commercial logging of native forests from next year.

The WA Forestry Minister Jackie Jarvis says timber will only be removed from the state’s native forests in the future to maintain forest health and for approved mine site operations.

“This move by the Cook government will safeguard our ionic forests for generations to come,” she said on Sunday.

The government will spend $350 million investing in the state’s softwood pine plantations to provide building material and protect existing jobs, as well as provide another 140 new positions.

The investment would help ease the state’s housing crisis as well as prevent climate change by boosting pine forest populations, Jarvis said.

“The record investment in WA’s plantation estate will ensure we can continue to build houses in WA, supporting both the local construction industry and the South West forestry industry,” she said.

The government had already spent $80 million on the Native Forest Transition Plan that included significant industry restructure payments.

WA Environment Minister Reece Whitby said nearly two million hectares of native karri, jarrah and wandoo forests will be protected for future generations.

“This decision reflects the changing attitudes of the community towards our native forests, building on the legacy of the Gallop Labor Government ending old-growth logging,” he said.

The move follows the recent announcement by the Victorian government that native timber harvesting in state forests will be gone by the end of the year

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 1, 2023 10:38 pm

Been scratching around the web and I think I have found the source of Phabulous Phil Coorey’s 17 pussent undecided number.
It is from his very own AFR on Friday.

But the polls suggest the Voice is on track for defeat. This week’s AFR/Freshwater Strategy poll showed support for the Voice was at 33 per cent, while the No vote had reached 50 per cent. Some 17 per cent said they remain undecided, but if they were excluded, the No vote was 60 per cent and the Yes vote 40 per cent.

Hmmm.
They need to swing the whole 17% to Yes, and in all the right states.
I hope Noel isn’t hanging his Trilby on that.
The big cause for hope is that “28% say they might change their minds”.
Well, der!
A lot of people say that because to say otherwise suggests you are close-minded.
But guess what?
They rarely do change their minds.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
October 1, 2023 10:44 pm

WA Environment Minister Reece Whitby said nearly two million hectares of native karri, jarrah and wandoo forests will be protected for future generations.
For future generations… to do what with them? Watch them burn, all that renewable material go up in smoke, or down to the whiteants?
Forgoing the use of Jarrah and wandoo is WA’s Xhosa cattle cull moment. Bugger me, it’s what made the state great.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 1, 2023 10:46 pm

Maybe upticks and downticks are a drag on the blog?
Maybe?

Indolent
Indolent
October 1, 2023 11:05 pm
MatrixTransform
October 1, 2023 11:06 pm

Maybe upticks and downticks are a drag on the blog?

I think JC’s busy … can you please ask him if he’s a retard?

Real Deal
Real Deal
October 1, 2023 11:09 pm

FWIW, I kind of liked the look of the Comet, with the engines buried into the wing root.

Walked through a Comet 4B at the Imperial War Museum at Duxford in the UK. Handsome old jet. Comet 1s were obviously deadly but once they learned about the problems, it was developed into a great aircraft. By then Boeing had grabbed the initiative and ran with it.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 1, 2023 11:11 pm

Indolent

Oct 1, 2023 11:08 PM

WEF Demands Criminalization of ‘Climate Inaction,’ Punishable Up to Death

Is there a direct quote from the WEF saying that?
Or just a bit of sensationalist joining of dots and verballing?

MatrixTransform
October 1, 2023 11:18 pm

joining of dots and verballing?

JC … please ask sancho if he’s retarded

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 1, 2023 11:20 pm

By then Boeing had grabbed the initiative and ran with it.

Quite so.
Sometimes the early bird gets the worm.
But in this case the second mouse got the cheese.
The next serious attempt to get a foothold was Concorde, which just wasn’t commercially viable.

MatrixTransform
October 1, 2023 11:23 pm

JC and sancho

please take your results, tabulate them and submit for review

the team will collate in excel and goal-seek to determine the nodes where you’re yr not actually fkd in the head

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 1, 2023 11:35 pm

Indolent

Oct 1, 2023 11:08 PM

WEF Demands Criminalization of ‘Climate Inaction,’ Punishable Up to Death

BTW, the phrase “punishable up to death” encompasses anything from a good behaviour bond or $50 fine up to execution by firing squad.
If you must link to loon sites, please try to find some with a grasp of basic grammar.
Thanking you in advance.

Robert Sewell
October 1, 2023 11:38 pm

P:

A Scotch Kiln was the type of kiln used by brickmakers in Australia in the 1850s.

Sigh.
OK, that attempt at humor went down like a lead brick…

MatrixTransform
October 2, 2023 12:05 am

hey retards … how’s all the up/down ticking working for youse?

Alamak!
October 2, 2023 12:15 am

It would appear there are certain combinations of letters and/or words that causes the server to spack out

DEADBEEF

bons
bons
October 2, 2023 3:31 am

Nice to see Gusmao thanking Australia for creating his nation for him by selling out to our deadly enemy.
Perhaps his fellow stroppy Portugese fascist Gutierrez told him to do so (or perhaps international statesman of note Andrews).
Indonesia no doubt is having a quite little “we told you” chuckle.

bons
bons
October 2, 2023 3:54 am

The Comet is a fascinating history. Heroic step into modern aero eng with effectively no supporting data other than from the partially pressurised B29 and a few high flyer recon machines.
DH pretty much got the pressurisation right. To be brought unstuck by something as basic as square portholes does seem bizarre for an organisation with their vast aero eng experience.
An interesting indicator of their grappeling with the mechanics of pressurisation is the tiny enterance ports. I found it to be uncomfortably claustrophobia inducing to have curl up to get through the tiny door.

Louis Litt
Louis Litt
October 2, 2023 8:53 pm

Hi Cat team

What is going on in Armenia and Azbijahan, and why and why now.
Thanks – looking forward to reading your contributions.

johanna
johanna
October 3, 2023 4:34 pm

I know a few on this blog quite like the red bellies. To me – they are predatory snakes with a nasty weapon.

Vicki, my main experience of red-bellies has been in the Royal National Park in NSW, and specifically (but not only) around Burning Palms.

There were heaps of them around, and as long as you didn’t step on them, they were off as soon as they realised you were there.

It may well be that they behave differently in different environments.

johanna
johanna
October 3, 2023 4:35 pm

Yeah, yeah. You know what I mean. 🙂

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