Open Thread – Mon 16 Oct 2023


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Mark from Melbourne
Mark from Melbourne
October 16, 2023 8:45 pm

But now the thought leaders have declared that we are required to overlook the practices and be accepting affirming.

FTFY.

Arky
October 16, 2023 8:45 pm

Don’t think I’m missing anything!?

I also am holding JMS WDS, SLR and FMG. Plus:
..
SFR
ZION
RBTZ
IIND
VCX

Dot
Dot
October 16, 2023 8:45 pm

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Dunny Brush
Oct 16, 2023 8:42 PM
Dot: re your list of bullying woke companies: surely someone can come up with an app that buzzes when you’re about to walk into a store that takes these positions? I try not to frequent any joint that takes a political position but it’s hard to keep up.

It wouldn’t be that hard, look up how APKs work. I’ve seen it done for in house apps.

As I just posted my portfolio, I am gonna go full HotCopper, you downramping market manipulatior!

Miltonf
Miltonf
October 16, 2023 8:49 pm

Wilkie. FMD. What a mediocrity. With a BA of course. So many orificers are no better than regular Canbra pubes.

JC
JC
October 16, 2023 8:51 pm

Sounds like Israel is dithering. Cut off water and then turns the tap on again. Accepts a 5 hour cease fire for humanitarian reasons. Going in but not yet.

Perhaps there’s a strategy there, but can’t see it.

JC
JC
October 16, 2023 8:53 pm

Really, I can’t believe this Israeli government soft-cockery. They decapitated babies and burned people alive. If those monsters had a chance they would kill every last Jew in Israel and then some while dancing in the streets. And now they give them this comfort. FMD.

Miltonf
Miltonf
October 16, 2023 8:54 pm

Talk about a tenth rate bum. Greatings from Coffs Harbour arbour, having a lovely dinner at a classy yatch club style restaurant. Australia you are the best.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 16, 2023 8:54 pm

Pogria:

the locals would have believed there was an air-raid as my little maggot sounds like a Klaxon on full wind when he spots other dogs

This dachshund (about 8 months old) is the son and heir’s pooch. He hangs out with my Darwin Special (giant brindle combo thing bred for pigging but without the temperament, which I think is why he ended up at the shelter).

The dachshund, when bored, nips and attacks my bloke by the elbows on his front legs. When my dog’s had a gutful he merely opens the jaws, puts them over the dachshund’s head and leaves them there until the substantially smaller pooch realises he’s outgunned and stops.

This replays about 20 times per day.

Dot
Dot
October 16, 2023 8:54 pm

I know very little about IT save for I saw a guru do it with real time RFID data and MS Office & an Android phone. (Hence APK). It might mean something different – Application Package?

What I’m trying to say is there probably exists libraries of files and background software that can be easily run through a basic interface/push notification system, that integrate with native software like AAPL or Google apps. A lot of it could be run off AWS or Azure (cloud) servers.

Bar Beach Swimmer
October 16, 2023 8:56 pm

I watched Kenny’s opening editorial. In it, he referred to some yes corporates expecting?/mandating? their staff to undertake training in support for the voice. How to go from 60% in favour last year to 60% against on Saturday, he said.

What a hide.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 16, 2023 8:57 pm

Isn’t Wilkie the former “Military”, man who sounds as if his ex boyfriend left the nut-clamp attached to his peanut sac?

Why yes he is. Yes he is. From Tasmania you know?

Makka
Makka
October 16, 2023 8:59 pm

Perhaps something is happening with the hostages. That’s one (hopeful) explanation for the IDF dragging their feet.

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
October 16, 2023 8:59 pm

Rugby Australia still has a media post up advocating for The Voice.
It (ironically) finished with
Provision for an Indigenous Voice to Parliament in our
Constitution is long overdue.
Let’s get it over the line.

Let’s get it down boys, apologise for alienating supporters, and just concentrate on fixing the shambles that is currently Rugby in Oz.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 16, 2023 9:00 pm

Isn’t Wilkie the former “Military”, man who sounds as if his ex boyfriend left the nut-clamp attached to his peanut sac?

He was a company commander in 6RAR, and the story that reached my ears was he was hardly up there with Slim or Patton.

JC
JC
October 16, 2023 9:02 pm

Could be. I just hope Bibi doesn’t turn timid.

132andBush
132andBush
October 16, 2023 9:02 pm

JC
I heard earlier the water was turned back on in the south, it’s an attempt to get the civilians to move that way.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
October 16, 2023 9:03 pm

Rockdoctor, I’ll take this chance to surrender the fact that Qld is indeed more sensible in voting No than WA.
I’ll have to suck it up that WA is now dominated by the orbit of Audi Q7s, mineral money and FIFOs in the southwest.

JC
JC
October 16, 2023 9:04 pm

Oh Okay. Thanks Bush.

Miltonf
Miltonf
October 16, 2023 9:06 pm

Mein Gott you guys crack me up.

cohenite
October 16, 2023 9:09 pm

rub and tug: only white people voted no. Picked up by PML from question time today.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
October 16, 2023 9:10 pm

My extensive list of deep contacts in Gaza, who have nothing better to do than update me on the minutiae of how utilities operate there, inform me that Hamas ain’t exactly been putting their back out to build water infrastructure with all the money & hardware the world has given them.

Necessity being the mother of invention led to private operators (about a dozen or so) starting up smallish water filtration or desalination operations & charging for the water.
These SME’s were reliable & the water flow, while not ideal, is sorta okay. This may change once they can’t get any more fuel to power their water plants.

Furthermore, the dozen or so operators are not connected, meaning to switch off the water the Zionist oppressor will have to take each one of these fellers out.
…. or cut off the power & block the import of fuel.

Pedro the Loafer
Pedro the Loafer
October 16, 2023 9:13 pm

I had a rather substantial bet on the Sandgropers beating the Banana Benders in the percentage voting No on Saturday, i.e “our ignorant racist scum will do your ignorant racist rednecks like a dinner”

Conceded at opening time at the pub today.

Dammit.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
October 16, 2023 9:13 pm

Wally Dali, last I looked the No vote was higher (per capita) in South Oz than in Western Australia.
Furthermore every federal seat in SouthOz voted majority No.

(However the Lanky Lithuanian shop steward is pressing on with a state-based Voice, as “that’s what the people of South Australia want”)

JC
JC
October 16, 2023 9:14 pm

Just get a load of this disgusting example of humanity.

For two years, he and his agency have been warning about GOP voters being terrorists, spying on churches reciting the Catholic Mass because they’re also evil doers, and indicting anyone 50 miles from the capitol on j6. Meanwhile, the border has been left wide open, and over 7 million illegals have walked across it without a care in the world.

And now?

JUST IN: FBI Director Christopher Wray warns of terror attacks on United States soil in relation to the Hamas terror attacks on Israel.

Hopefully they will be taking a break from tracking down Trump supporters to confront this.

Wray said the FBI has seen a large increase in reported threats since the attacks and said to be on the lookout for “lone actors.”

“In this heightened environment, there’s no question we’re seeing an increase in reported threats, and we’ve got to be on the lookout especially for lone actors who may take inspiration from recent events to commit violence of their own.

You know, I really try to be optimistic about the West, but it’s hard. Really hard.
Here’s the vid if you can stand it.

Pogria
Pogria
October 16, 2023 9:14 pm

The dachshund, when bored, nips and attacks my bloke by the elbows on his front legs. When my dog’s had a gutful he merely opens the jaws, puts them over the dachshund’s head and leaves them there until the substantially smaller pooch realises he’s outgunned and stops.

This replays about 20 times per day.

KD,
I had a huge tabby tom, he weighed over two stone in his prime, who used to behave like your big dog. He would let the my young dogs play with him, chew him, drag him around. When he had had enough, he would stand up and hook his front paws claws into the miscreants forehead, and hold him there until the squealing stopped. He would let go, the pup would shake his pitted head and back off carefully. It would all start again a few hours later. Sob, memories…

Mark from Melbourne
Mark from Melbourne
October 16, 2023 9:14 pm

They clearly think that have to give people the best – and most – chance / incentive to flee before what’s coming JC.

I admire enormously the fact that they feel that way.

But it does tend to indicate that what’s coming is going to be very, very unpleasant. As it should be.

Perfidious Albino
Perfidious Albino
October 16, 2023 9:14 pm

Wilkie got psychologically shirt fronted by little John Howard didn’t he? Never got over it.

Pogria
Pogria
October 16, 2023 9:15 pm

I’m watching The Light Horseman. They are about to take Beersheba.

flyingduk
flyingduk
October 16, 2023 9:16 pm

Toyota claims to have developed a battery that is now going into production that will extend distance to 1200km and requires 10 min charge.

I have trouble believing you can push that many kWh into a battery in 10m without melting something.

Perfidious Albino
Perfidious Albino
October 16, 2023 9:19 pm

BBS – that Roxburgh cricket ad is so cringe. ‘Don’t miss your last chance to see this generation defining team!; they are us!; blah blah’.

Yeah, defined Australian cricket for at least a generation as cheaters and woke softcocks.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
October 16, 2023 9:19 pm

Maybe the cheating Alinta’s didn’t get enough grief councelling. When did we ever see the great S K Warne or Glenn McGrath ever look like loosers. No need to answer, NEVER! What a bunch of nancyboys.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
October 16, 2023 9:20 pm

they all want to stick it to the big bad capitalist man.

Unless the capitalist has so much money they can buy influence over legislated group rights and the media depiction of themselves, such as Billy.H.G. the 3rd.
This exception is so rare it does not diminish the rule.

amortiser
amortiser
October 16, 2023 9:20 pm

Rugby Australia still has a media post up advocating for The Voice.
It (ironically) finished with
Provision for an Indigenous Voice to Parliament in our
Constitution is long overdue.
Let’s get it over the line.

They can’t even get the ball over the line. Where are their priorities?

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 16, 2023 9:21 pm

I had a rather substantial bet on the Sandgropers beating the Banana Benders in the percentage voting No on Saturday, i.e “our ignorant racist scum will do your ignorant racist rednecks like a dinner”

Yes, most disappointing. Even from here in Curtin.

Makka
Makka
October 16, 2023 9:22 pm

I’m watching The Light Horseman. They are about to take Beersheba.

The cinematography of the charge still makes the hairs stand up on back of my neck.

Gabor
Gabor
October 16, 2023 9:23 pm

flyingduk
Oct 16, 2023 9:16 PM

Toyota claims to have developed a battery that is now going into production that will extend distance to 1200km and requires 10 min charge.

I have trouble believing you can push that many kWh into a battery in 10m without melting something.

Being a layman in electronics, so I could be wrong but, that was my first impression .
As to the range, I would be happy with about 400 to 500 Ks. My current car an older Toyota Avensies does about 650 to 700 Ks plenty enough for me.

The only need for more range for EVs is if you travel outside of cities where charging stations might be scarce. But that also can change in the future.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 16, 2023 9:26 pm

I’m watching The Light Horseman. They are about to take Beersheba.

My great uncle was in Beersheba, with 2/32nd Battalion, during Wobbly Wobbly Two – there’s an entry in his diary about seeing the graves of those Light-horsemen, killed in that charge.

Mark from Melbourne
Mark from Melbourne
October 16, 2023 9:26 pm
GreyRanga
GreyRanga
October 16, 2023 9:27 pm

Wife had a good laugh talking to a colleague in Brissie. “We don’t do diversity up here”.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 16, 2023 9:28 pm
Bar Beach Swimmer
October 16, 2023 9:29 pm

P.A. Yes, a bunch of blokes we won’t miss, whatever Richard says.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 16, 2023 9:30 pm

GreyRanga, and apropos of the Alintas:

What a bunch of nancyboys

They are resigned to defeat. The Lankans are 1/137, not even halfway through their innings, and if you take the usual credo of doubling your score at the 30 over mark they’ll finish closer to 400 than 350. Plus, the Lankan middle order are in decent nick.

The Alinta quicks are cooked. They’re going for half-tracker slow bouncers because they haven’t got the pace to get the pill to move off the deck at a length to worry the subcon batsmen.

When the Alinta top order get to bat, the lights will be on and the pill will zip off the deck for the first 15 overs at least. They’ll be 3/40 after 10, but I’ll be fartered up by then.

It’s done.

Bar Beach Swimmer
October 16, 2023 9:36 pm

Cohenite, Murray’s reference to what Luigi said in parliament today, I know he played it 3 times, but I had trouble confirming what the word was.

I thought he said “what” rather than “white”. But since his enunciation is one of his better attributes, maybe it was my perfect hearing that fell short.

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 16, 2023 9:36 pm

Pogria
Oct 16, 2023 9:15 PM
I’m watching The Light Horseman. They are about to take Beersheba.

SBSC World Movies has been running a lot of non-ethnic movies recently. Are they worried about declining audiences and future budgets?

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 16, 2023 9:38 pm

BBS – that Roxburgh cricket ad is so cringe. ‘Don’t miss your last chance to see this generation defining team!; they are us!; blah blah’.

They’ve fallen a long way from taking it up to Viv Richards and the Supercat.

Pogria
Pogria
October 16, 2023 9:39 pm

The cinematography of the charge still makes the hairs stand up on back of my neck.

Makka,
watching this film, you can see why Kevin Costner chose Dean Semler to be the Cinematographer for Dances with Wolves.

Zulu, AWESOME! So much pride in your veins.
BTW, how is the memsahib?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 16, 2023 9:41 pm

Constitutional law experts say the voice referendum has killed prospects of successful referendums, shooting down hopes of Australia ever becoming a Republic.

Yeah, nah, bullshit.
I tell you what is screwed forever though.
Putting up a $400 meg half-baked brain fart and hoping voters will sleep-walk into it.
In fact, it could help a Republican referendum if they come up with a lot of detail, particularly around the office of Head of State, and sell it as not being like da Voice.

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 16, 2023 9:42 pm

Fun fact, the same actor played Chauvel in The Lighthorsemen and Monash in the TV series Anzacs.

And it wasn’t Bill Hunter.

Pogria
Pogria
October 16, 2023 9:42 pm

BJ,
Salvation is on after The Light Horsemen. A Danish/UK take on High Noon starring the delectable Mads Mikkelsen.

hzhousewife
hzhousewife
October 16, 2023 9:43 pm

One of my grandmas cousins was at Beersheba also. WW1.

Pogria
Pogria
October 16, 2023 9:43 pm

BJ,
Bill Kerr!

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
October 16, 2023 9:43 pm

I’d love to see a truth telling commission. It could establish that aborigines have derived enormous benefits from the settling of the British in Australia. That the aborigines owe whitefellas far more than the other way around. This is one of those bleeding obvious facts that everyone knows and understands, that just happens to be politically unsayable.
Marcia gets to be a professor instead of getting bashed for being uppity. Noel gets half a billion bucks to play with. They all get medical treatment when necessary, do their hunting and gathering in supermarkets, and get to wear clothes. And they want reparations? Tell ’em they’re dreaming.

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 16, 2023 9:45 pm

SBS World Movies, not sure where that stray “C” came from.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 16, 2023 9:45 pm

Yep, not unreasonable to describe Luigi’s effort on the Voice as lazy. Arrogant and lazy in equal measure.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 16, 2023 9:46 pm

BTW, how is the memsahib?

On the mend, very slowly. Oh, she’s taking an interest in solid food!

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 16, 2023 9:46 pm

Pogria
Oct 16, 2023 9:42 PM
BJ,
Salvation is on after The Light Horsemen. A Danish/UK take on High Noon starring the delectable Mads Mikkelsen.

Bit late for old codgers like me, but thanks for the tip anyway.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
October 16, 2023 9:48 pm

A Grand-Uncle was in the charge. I’ve got a packsaddle he had with him (not in the charge) complete with Turkish bullet hole inflicted at some point in the campaign.
Can’t ask him for any details about it now.
Apparently the charge was “bloody dusty you couldn’t see a bloody thing”, if that was the one he was talking of. Beersheba didn’t become “cool” until after he was gone.

Pogria
Pogria
October 16, 2023 9:48 pm

Actually, Salvation is more “Pale Rider”, than High Noon.

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 16, 2023 9:48 pm

Pogria
Oct 16, 2023 9:43 PM
BJ,
Bill Kerr!

Indeed. I remember when Bill Hunter was the left’s (much over rated) Australian actor. Hence my snide remark about him.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
October 16, 2023 9:49 pm

Zulu, that’s good news.

Pogria
Pogria
October 16, 2023 9:50 pm

On the mend, very slowly. Oh, she’s taking an interest in solid food!

LOL! Excellent!

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 16, 2023 9:53 pm

Zulu, that’s good news.

Thank you – oh, and she’s pleasantly surprised at how much money she’s saving by not smoking!

Pogria
Pogria
October 16, 2023 9:54 pm

Salvatore,
one of my prized possessions when I was a teenager, was an Australian Army blanket made in 1914. It still had the tag with the date stitched onto it.

Bar Beach Swimmer
October 16, 2023 9:55 pm

In fact, it could help a Republican referendum if they come up with a lot of detail, particularly around the office of Head of State, and sell it as not being like da Voice.

SP, one of those election analysts- a psephologist – I can’t think of his name at the minute – he said at the time of the republic referendum in ‘99, that it will never get up in this country because the pollies want to vote by 2/3 majority in a joint sitting of parliament for the president.

While the public will only agree to a direct election model. The former knows that if the latter’s choice came in, our entire system of govt would be upended and we’d be on a path to a US style system. While the latter isn’t prepared to give any more power to the former, especially of the back room deal kind.

Pogria
Pogria
October 16, 2023 9:57 pm

Indeed. I remember when Bill Hunter was the left’s (much over rated) Australian actor. Hence my snide remark about him.

BJ, I gathered that’s what you intended. 😀

cohenite
October 16, 2023 10:00 pm

I thought he said “what” rather than “white”.

I heard white. In a just world the little shit would be tarred and feathered. I can’t find a link.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 16, 2023 10:01 pm

Marcia gets to be a professor instead of getting bashed for being uppity.

I’d like to see a reality T.V. show, in which Marcia Langton, Lidia Thorpe and Linda Burney lived the lives their female ancestors would have lived, pre colonization.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 16, 2023 10:03 pm

Old Ozzie quoting from Fewfacts earlier today.

The prime minister argued that Opposition Leader Peter Dutton risked making himself irrelevant if he opposed the Voice and that in an age in which politics was much less tribal and people were less wedded to political parties, the Yes campaign could and would succeed without the Coalition.

Luigi found out just how true this was.
Just not in the way he had hoped.
Fighting Torries is not as easy as you think.

Chris
Chris
October 16, 2023 10:04 pm

I’m watching The Light Horseman. They are about to take Beersheba.

The cinematography of the charge still makes the hairs stand up on back of my neck.

Hold a Patt1907 bayonet in your hand. Now reach the point forward, and picture reaching from horseback to do harm with it. The blade is just half the length of a cavalry sword.
Its a very long way from the saddle to an entrenched enemy.

Now remember the cavalry charge in War Horse.
Bloody hell, those Light Horsemen were brave.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 16, 2023 10:06 pm

After Australia said No on voice, Anthony Albanese to review Labor’s treaty pledge on treaty and truth-telling

By geoff chambers
Chief Political Correspondent
@Chambersgc
and rosie lewis
Political Correspondent
@rosieslewis
9:34PM October 16, 2023
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Anthony Albanese will review Labor’s commitment to establish a Makarrata commission after the voice referendum failure, as Indigenous leaders, the Greens and crossbenchers increase pressure on the government to back truth-telling and treaty.

In his first parliamentary showdown with Peter Dutton following Saturday’s referendum, the Prime Minister could not confirm whether his government would fully implement the Uluru Statement from the Heart without a constitutional voice.

Ahead of rallying the troops at his first post-referendum Labor caucus meeting on Tuesday, Mr Albanese on Monday accepted personal “responsibility” for the crushing defeat but fell short of strongly endorsing treaty and truth-telling processes.
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The Australian understands the government will wait to consult with key Indigenous leaders following their week of silence before reviewing Labor’s pre-election pledge to fund a $27m Makarrata commission super­vising treaty-making and truth-telling.

A senior government source on Monday suggested the resounding defeat of the voice referendum undermined remaining requests from the Uluru Statement from the Heart, which are treaty and truth-telling via a Makarrata commission.

MareeS
MareeS
October 16, 2023 10:08 pm

The Lithium thing is looking like the Tantalum thing back in the day. Fun, but base resources and gold served us in the aftermath.

Dot
Dot
October 16, 2023 10:09 pm

SP, one of those election analysts- a psephologist – I can’t think of his name at the minute – he said at the time of the republic referendum in ‘99, that it will never get up in this country because the pollies want to vote by 2/3 majority in a joint sitting of parliament for the president.

It would be different now. I am partial to a directly elected President and even having an executive President and not having a Parliamentary government. Not all people who prefer direct election will vote against an appointed President. I wouldn’t have. There has been generational change too in 24 years. 8.53% swing to YES and it would have gotten up, 4 States YES plus a national majority. There is also the fact that QE II was well-liked even by republicans (like me).

While the public will only agree to a direct election model. The former knows that if the latter’s choice came in, our entire system of govt would be upended and we’d be on a path to a US style system.

The Irish have a directly elected President who holds nearly mostly ceremonial power but like our Governor General has a small set of real powers. The President of Portugal is directly elected and holds more reserve powers than the Irish President, but still does not govern the country; pardons are a personal power, rather than referred on by an AG.

Switzerland does not even have a Head of State except nominally and the power over national defence is held collectively by cabinet.

Jorge
Jorge
October 16, 2023 10:14 pm

Saw one report on Gaza. Hospital with prem babies in special cribs. Disabled, wounded etc. Then about ten women in one house with a tribe of young kids saying they would not move. No food left.

Soldiers are not meant for this and Hamas knows it. These kids and women are weapons but it goes against every decent instinct to kill them.

Start with some kind of police action using dogs perhaps. It would be chaos and would take forever. I’ll bet the joint is booby trapped as well.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
October 16, 2023 10:17 pm

Hahahahahahaha…

The Gruinaids cartoonist gets the ” purged by the party ” treatment

https://x.com/LBC/status/1713824236240765281?s=20

Sacked for anti-Semitism.

cohenite
October 16, 2023 10:22 pm

If Jacinta isn’t available Liz Storer will do.

Pogria
Pogria
October 16, 2023 10:23 pm

mole,
I was just about to link the same. Bloody hilarious. Perhaps the Grauniad has sucked on a bottle of Skel-e Grow and is developing a spine. Lol!

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 16, 2023 10:24 pm

Australia
Lidia Thorpe cancels Q&A panel appearance due to “ongoing” Nazi threats
Jessica WangNCA NewsWire
Mon, 16 October 2023 7:14PM

Independent senator Lidia Thorpe has pulled out of an appearance on ABC’s Q&A panel, citing ongoing concerns over her security.

In a post made in capital letters and shared on Facebook half an hour before the program’s start, Senator Thorpe said she would not be appearing on the program because of the threats from a “Nazi terrorist organisation”.

“FTP. IAM NOT PROTECTED FROM A KNOWN FAR RIGHT NAZI TERRORIST ORGANISATION. THAT IS WHY I CANT DO Q&A TONIGHT,” she wrote.

Her comments after a suspected neo-Nazi group tagged her in a video shared a video on X, formerly known as Twitter, depicting a man in a balaclava reading a racist statement, burning an Indigenous flag, and performing a Nazi salute.

Anybody else calling “Bullsh!t?”

JC
JC
October 16, 2023 10:26 pm

Sacked for anti-Semitism.

I’ve never understood how a journo or cartoonist for that matter gets the boot while the editors allowing something to go through and published don’t.

Digger
Digger
October 16, 2023 10:32 pm

JC
I heard earlier the water was turned back on in the south, it’s an attempt to get the civilians to move that way.

They need to turn the salt water from the Mediterranean on and keep pumping it into the tunnels until every barbarian pops his head up and then blow it off… Do not stop until every tunnel is full… and every head is shot…

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 16, 2023 10:35 pm
Bar Beach Swimmer
October 16, 2023 10:36 pm

Dot,
All of those choices have the potential to bring in huge changes in this context. At the time of the ‘99 referendum the polls showed consistent support from the people for a republic – but only the direct election model.

The people’s respect and admiration for the Queen did not overly influence that choice of republic. Though maybe the question was framed as an either/or rather than pro/anti monarchy.

The direct election model would give a president a bigger mandate than a prime minister and would have the potential to create another power centre outside of the parliament, which is why the pollies can see the danger going down that path.

Don’t hold your breath.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
October 16, 2023 10:37 pm

… and keep pumping it into the tunnels until …

The 199 kidnapped Israeli women & children are almost certain to be in those tunnels.

There’d be quite some reluctance to actually be the one who gives the order to “flood ’em”, or even to be the one who presses the big red button to launch the flood.

Bar Beach Swimmer
October 16, 2023 10:41 pm

Not all people who prefer direct election will vote against an appointed President. I wouldn’t have.

Dot, that reminds me of Father Frank Brennan, Greg Craven & Julian Leeser, all saying that the voice to the executive, though of concern to them, they would still support despite their misgivings.

It seems the bloke (& Sheila) in the street understand more than those who should know better.

Indolent
Indolent
October 16, 2023 10:43 pm
Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 16, 2023 10:45 pm

From TE’s Tim Blair link.

“Indigenous leaders across Australia who supported the voice have lamented the defeated referendum as a ‘bitter irony’ in that newcomers who had been on the continent for 235 years would ‘refuse recognition to the true owners of Australia’.”

This seems to be just a posh, ABC-friendly version of the old Cronulla riot theme: “We grew here, you flew here.”

Ouch!!
You might want to put an ice pack on that.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 16, 2023 10:47 pm

There’d be quite some reluctance to actually be the one who gives the order to “flood ’em”, or even to be the one who presses the big red button to launch the flood.

Adam Bandt and the Greens could demonstrate their superior people skills, and deal making skills, by negotiating the handover of those hostages?

Digger
Digger
October 16, 2023 10:59 pm

There’d be quite some reluctance to actually be the one who gives the order to “flood ’em”, or even to be the one who presses the big red button to launch the flood.
10,000 barbarians and a worse attack next time…

Their choice…

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 16, 2023 11:01 pm

cohenite

Oct 16, 2023 9:09 PM

rub and tug: only white people voted no.

Even if that was true, so fkn what?
Unless he is questioning the principle of “one person – one vote”.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 16, 2023 11:03 pm

Okay.

Lankans 6/200ish. 12 overs left.

The Alintas’ body language is still shit.

Makka
Makka
October 16, 2023 11:04 pm

Their choice…

Yes. Their people, their women, their kids and mothers.. Husbands, brothers. Entirely their choice. And thank God it’s not mine.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
October 16, 2023 11:05 pm

10,000 barbarians and a worse attack next time…

Quite so. It’d be one helluva situation to be in for the Israeli brasshat who makes the call.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 16, 2023 11:06 pm

BBS – that Roxburgh cricket ad is so cringe. ‘Don’t miss your last chance to see this generation defining team!; they are us!; blah blah’.

They actually believe a grateful sporting public will turn up for the Cheating Midget Houso Ranga’s swansong for any other reason than to tell him to f-ck off.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 16, 2023 11:11 pm

cohenite

Oct 16, 2023 10:00 PM

I thought he said “what” rather than “white”.

I heard white. In a just world the little shit would be tarred and feathered. I can’t find a link.

The phrase “only what people voted no” simply doesn’t make sense.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 16, 2023 11:11 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzlZCCmfX1k

“An incompetent Linda Burney is part of the reason for the failed voice.”

Dot
Dot
October 16, 2023 11:19 pm

The people’s respect and admiration for the Queen did not overly influence that choice of republic.

I don’t agree. The Queen made the monarchy very popular in a post-modern world and saved it from the damage her idiot sons did. 24 years later, a 9% nationwide change would flip to YES. The monarchy has been VERY unpopular in times excluding after Charles I, such as during George IV’s reign.

The direct election model would give a president a bigger mandate than a prime minister

This doesn’t happen anywhere where a nominal President elected because they are elected to be a nominal President.

the potential to create another power centre outside of the parliament

That’s a very good thing, but technically a nominal President in a minimalist (even directly elected model 🙂 ) would be the third element of Parliament, as is the King.

Section 1 of the Constitution mentions the monarch as the first element of Parliament, before the House and Senate.

Dot, that reminds me of Father Frank Brennan, Greg Craven & Julian Leeser, all saying that the voice to the executive, though of concern to them, they would still support despite their misgivings.

That’s a completely underhanded and duck-shoved comparison, I hope your next restaurant meal is absolutely awful and extravagantly overpriced for such a foul besmirchment.

…How dare you?!

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 16, 2023 11:19 pm

Knuckle Dragger

Oct 16, 2023 11:03 PM

Okay.

Lankans 6/200ish. 12 overs left.

The Alintas’ body language is still shit.

Ease up.
They’re grieving.

Bazinga
Bazinga
October 16, 2023 11:20 pm

Im sorry to say the hostages are already dead (figuratively). Remember when nobody would hijack Israeli planes. Push the flood button.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 16, 2023 11:21 pm

Corey Bernadi comparing Albo to John Hewson , in losing the unloseable vote…

Oh come on
Oh come on
October 16, 2023 11:25 pm

It’s very possible that the sudden public appearance of this cohort of highly disciplined and athletically conditioned regiment of neo-Nazis, all neatly and spotlessly decked out in their black uniforms, may be menacing controlled opposition figures like Lidia Thorpe. Just like they have turned out to support well-known National Socialist causes like women’s rights. I guess we can expect to see them marching against net zero targets and ‘internet safety’ legislation, too. They are also liable to turn up to support anything that could be characterised as being pro-free speech.

There is a solution for any organisation wishing to hold events that oppose Establishment priorities but doesn’t want their cause tainted by these pesky neo-Nazis, however; just hold your events on Sundays. Better still, public holidays. Their guvnors will never sign off on them working those days due to the applicable penalty rates.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 16, 2023 11:27 pm

Corey Bernadi comparing Albo to John Hewson , in losing the unloseable vote…

A bit rich coming from someone who spent their time on the red leather courtesy of the Lieborals before disappearing into obscurity.

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
October 16, 2023 11:43 pm

Oz cricketers not reading Cat criticism.
10 for 84. That’s some turnaround.
Sri Lanka all out for 209. Zampa 4 wickets.

Muddy
Muddy
October 16, 2023 11:47 pm

newcomers who had been on the continent for 235 years

I’ve never met a 235 year-old. I wonder what their secret to longevity is?
‘Prostrate* yourself, peasant. I am descended from royalty.’

* Prostate yerself might work in this context as well.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
October 16, 2023 11:57 pm

Why am I supposed to be impressed by a culture that is 65,000 years old? Mine is only ~3,000 years old, arguably ~600 years old. But it’s put men on the moon, conquered any number of foul diseases and raised half the population of the world out of abject poverty. Including most aborigines. Old and doddery isn’t impressive.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
October 17, 2023 12:00 am

And my culture outgrew rainbow serpents and suchlike infantile rubbish centuries ago. Aboriginal culture allegedly still takes the drivel seriously.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 17, 2023 12:01 am

Daily Mail.

Waleed Aly says Voice referendum was too ‘complicated’ for ‘less educated’ Australians to understand – after only the most elite suburbs voted Yes

Waleed Aly said the Voice’s concept was ‘complicated’
‘Elites’ were more likely to vote Yes, Project host said

What part of the words “May wild dogs fornicate upon your grave” do you have difficulty in understanding?

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
October 17, 2023 12:01 am

That should be ~5,000 not ~3,000.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 17, 2023 12:03 am

Why am I supposed to be impressed by a culture that is 65,000 years old?

Which never discovered the wheel, or how to boil water? I mean, making forty noises, blowing down a hollow log is hardly a Beethoven symphony.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
October 17, 2023 12:12 am

A Tweet by the Doomlord retweeted by Rita Panahi
Hahahhahaha! Maybe they can all move to Canberra.
Quote
$in¢lair Davidson
@SincDavidson
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Oct 15
Spare a thought for all those people who today are ashamed to be Australian. They can’t even emigrate to New Zealand.

Damienski
Damienski
October 17, 2023 12:13 am

I’m watching The Light Horseman. They are about to take Beersheba

My grandfather was a signalman with the Light Horse at Beersheba. I have his worn and dented binoculars, complete with the Defence Department arrow engraved on them.

Muddy
Muddy
October 17, 2023 12:20 am

Let’s give our indig sisters & brothers some credit: They did invent the game ‘Rock, Paper, Scissors.’

Oh, wait …

MareeS
MareeS
October 17, 2023 12:26 am

Something that may be of interest to medical-type Cats: the daughter, early-30s has returned from Vietnam/Cambodia/Thailand last week, and this past weekend has come out with measles.

She was immunised as a baby. She worked in an ADF support role during the Plague, had 3 compulsory jabs, and has had the C-bug 3 times now, last time a few weeks ago.

As we are away in FNQ at present, one of my several sisters, a nurse with pedriatic, neonatal, ER intensive care certs, took a look in case the rash was meningococcal. It wasn’t thankfully.

However, she told me measles is really on the up recently, among younger adults. Apparently the childhood immunisations seem to be failing, and people in her line of work believe among themselves that the jabs have destroyed a lot of earlier immunisation protection. Likewise chickenpox coming back as shingles.

She and her colleagues believe this is not so for people who developed immunity through childhood infection.

Apparently this is widely known in her area of nursing in private, but not spoken of widely.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
October 17, 2023 1:57 am

chief people officer

lol. Yesterday, at Ancient Olympia in Greece, as we wandered about our guide kept referring to an important government department: The Department of Civilization.

We could do worse than have one of those ourselves, especially if it was a Department of Western Civilization (which is what the Greek one really is too).

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
October 17, 2023 2:19 am

Now in Chania (Hjar-nyar) in Crete. We were here on our Med island-hopping in 2018, so not new to us, but the waterfront old town is still as beautiful as ever, though even more crawling with tourists. We took a tour up to an old hillside monastery where the cruciform C13th-C16th church also had domes on it. The inside was gloriously gold, with a highly elaborate gold hanging-circle in the middle of the nave before the altar, and with priceless icons both early and late in style on display throughout, as well as in a small museum attached. A large framed golden Madonna icon is adorned with precious gold jewellery and gold watches left by grateful recipients of her Grace. Some of the icons, which are stylized and gilded pictures painted on wood, especially the older ones, had some quite dark-skinned saints. There was one icon where the adored Mary, Mother of God could truly be said to be a ‘black madonna’, her face and that of her children were depicted as dark-skinned, not just darkened with age. The cult of Mary is strong here, large icons show both her birth and her ascention to heaven. Didn’t see one of the Annunciation though.

As elsewhere in the part of the Adriatic, Ionic, Aegean themed Mediterranean, we were both impressed with how much all of these areas had fought so hard against a strong Ottoman push for total takeover, which was on going in Crete until the early twentieth century, where at a famous outlook over Chania we saw a tribute to the Cretan who became PM of Greece and who organised this final Ottoman driving out. The churches the Ottomans turned into mosques are now Orthodox churches again, and it is illegal to have mosques in Crete now.

We also went to a War Graves memorial to the 1940’s WW2 fighting, beside the sea and beautifully kept by the Allied War Graves Commisions, including especially Australia’s, for the nearly 200 Australians who lie in this soil. 450 New Zealanders, and over 800 Britishers too. Very moving.

Cretans are noted for their fighting spirit. It may be concern about this that prompted the Greek government to do a firearms and knives search and destroy or remove only fifteen years ago; something strongly resisted and still resented by the locals, especially the fierce mountain men. Let’s hope the current lot of ‘Ottomans’ don’t get land-greedy again, I say to those around, or Greece may yet regret this disarming of its patriots.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
October 17, 2023 2:51 am

ooops, I mean Mary’s child, Jesus, not ‘her children’. Although she did have others, they are little seen or known about, although legends abound of course.

Re other personnel, St Peter is attested as having visited Crete, and some add St. Paul to that as well. Religion still defines much of life in these regions. It has a history here.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
October 17, 2023 3:11 am

Talking of cricket, it is one of the great legacies of British rule in many far-flung places. It unexpectedly turns up in Corfu. There is a large cricket pitch in the centre of the promenade park in town, and teams are still gathered and the game seriously played.

rosie
rosie
October 17, 2023 3:18 am

No, She didn’t.

caveman
caveman
October 17, 2023 3:51 am

Mr Minns acknowledged that a NSW treaty would require signed agreements with “150 different nations”.

“It’s going to be complex and difficult,” he said.

Fkn clown world

Tom
Tom
October 17, 2023 4:00 am

John Spooner. Brilliant.

Tom
Tom
October 17, 2023 4:01 am
Tom
Tom
October 17, 2023 4:02 am
Tom
Tom
October 17, 2023 4:03 am
Tom
Tom
October 17, 2023 4:04 am
Tom
Tom
October 17, 2023 4:04 am
Tom
Tom
October 17, 2023 4:05 am
Tom
Tom
October 17, 2023 4:06 am
Tom
Tom
October 17, 2023 4:07 am
JC
JC
October 17, 2023 5:06 am

Good call Bern’meister

Robert F. Kennedy’s divorce from the Democrats TIES the 2024 race between Donald Trump and Joe Biden – as he sucks independents away from the ex-president

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12628599/Robert-F-Kennedys-divorce-Democrats-TIES-2024-race-Donald-Trump-Joe-Biden-sucks-independents-away-ex-president.html

He’s obviously getting a decent swag of the crazy vote.
He reminds me of the crazy son, in Succession, wanting to run for president.

jim
jim
October 17, 2023 6:17 am

The weeping and wailing still emanating from the Pro Voice camp ;the tragic figures holding their throbbing foreheads leave one amazed. What did they think they were going to get out of it. What plans had they made behind closed doors. Those of us who saw it as a duplicitous little mans “smoke and mirrors” pre polled and forgot about it.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 17, 2023 6:18 am

JC, not my call.
Just what Baris was predicting, then his polling showed it.
RFK Jr drags votes away from Trump in states where Trump can not lose votes like Wisconsin & Michigan amongst others.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 17, 2023 6:31 am

Back to reality in the Oz quiz today.

Razey
Razey
October 17, 2023 6:51 am

Now. How do we stop all this treaty bullshit? Fake Aboriginals want us to be their serfs by the sounds. Surely this treaty crap can’t be legal.!

Dot
Dot
October 17, 2023 7:01 am

Wow.

Old article from May 2023.

More of Australia’s fantastic affordable properties.

I can’t work out why people aren’t having kids anymore.

Bootstraps, son.

I taught myself to read and write at 2 years old so I could read those motivational books. People who complain just are babies who don’t try.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12039687/Sydney-rental-crisis-Windowless-closet-goes-rent-300-week.html

Housing hell: Windowless closet is now for rent in Sydney – and it will set you back $300 a week even though it can barely fit a single bed

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
October 17, 2023 7:05 am

Uncle Luigi in a good place:
[unlinkable OZ]

Labor MPs on Monday said they would leave it to the Indigenous Australians Minister, Linda Burney, to determine a new way forward after consulting with pro-voice Indigenous leaders following their week of silence.

The review, understood to be sparked by internal concerns about public reaction to treaties after the No campaign weaponised the Makarrata commission during the voice campaign, is expected to examine merits and functions of a national process and crossovers with state governments pursuing truth-telling, voice and treaty bodies.

If the pre-election promise were watered down or significantly altered, Mr Albanese would likely cop fierce opposition from his own Left-faction and Indigenous activists.

Just quietly, if my arse was on the line and my trousers on fire, Linda Burney probably wouldn’t be my saviour of choice.
But there we are.

Luckily, the Caretaker PM has other helpers:

A day after Deputy Prime Minister Richard Marles said the government remained fully committed to implementing the Uluru Statement from the Heart, Mr Albanese told the parliament that Makarrata “is simply a ­Yolngu word for coming together after struggle”.

“The referendum was about listening to people and about getting better outcomes. And these principles will continue to guide me,” he told parliament. “I will continue to listen to people and communities and consult with Indigenous Australians about a way forward.

So, lessons learned.

Miltonf
Miltonf
October 17, 2023 7:08 am

Too bad about the cost of living and the housing crisis.

Miltonf
Miltonf
October 17, 2023 7:10 am

I think anal and his pubic pals in Canbra will be looking for revenge against the electorate. Remember we are not dealing with normal decent people.

billie
billie
October 17, 2023 7:11 am

Truth Telling …

What do you reckon that really means to those Yes activists?

That they will all tell the truth for a change?

About what they really think of Reconcilliation?

I suspect Albo is about to make another arrogant, fighting Tories moment (his guiding principle), that he will regret.

Seriously what a numpty. For all his guff and hard man talk, it’s clear he hasn’t spent much time outside the union’s and Labor compounds.

Mind you, it is going to be fun to watch.

Just defining it will be months of infighting and backstabbing, then the farce of who will be on what committee and who won’t sit beside whom and so on, like spoiled brats at a sugar party.

Bring it on.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
October 17, 2023 7:13 am

I see there was much talk of Lithium last night.

The only observation I would make would be that if the veil of AGW cobwebs is swept away then the evaporation of demand for EV’s will not spell a collapse in the market for lithium.

In the suburbs where EV’s have established themselves lithium will be in as much demand as ever – in tablet form.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
October 17, 2023 7:15 am

No, She didn’t.

Is this a correction of me re Mary, Mother of God, having more than one child, or something else? I meant to say ‘child’ but said ‘children’ so corrected that while thinking that Mary did actually have other children..

I thought the Bible says she had another son called James and there is some mention in legends of others. Let me know if I am wrong, as I obviously make no claim to biblical scholarship The icons I saw showed only Mary and Jesus, as is properly the case.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
October 17, 2023 7:15 am

You could’ve knocked me over with a feather. The cheating Alinta’s actually won.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
October 17, 2023 7:17 am

In Career Advancement news:

Commonwealth Bank’s spin doctor’s claim: ‘Hamas has been demonised’
[unlinkable OZ]

A public relations executive with a leading Australian bank has claimed the terrorist group Hamas has been demonised and suggested it may be necessary to impose a two-state Israel-Palestine solution by force.

Melbourne-based Alex Evans, a member of Commonwealth Bank’s corporate affairs team, wrote a letter in a private capacity to the editor of The Australian…

An outbreak of seppuku.

Vicki
Vicki
October 17, 2023 7:17 am

Lizzie – I hope you will visit the Minoan sites of Knossos & Phaestos. This sea faring nation is fascinating. A vibrant, artistic people. After the devastating regional earthquakes of around 1300 BC (my memory is hazy!) they probably migrated to other parts of the Mediterranean. I have always thought they probably migrated to modern Spain & Portugal where you see the vestiges of their fascination with bill leaping – still commemorated in Portugal & of course bull fighting in Spain. The Spanish women s garb today remind us of the elaborate skirts portrayed in the frescoes in Knossos. Also the long dark haired braids. I visited the Minoan sites many years ago & wonder if the sites are still open.

Miltonf
Miltonf
October 17, 2023 7:17 am

Yes most of our political class are like spoilt brats because everything has been given to them. Never wanted for anything. No need to extend yourself in your uni bludge course. No need to get your hands dirty in a polimuppet’s office

calli
calli
October 17, 2023 7:17 am

the government remained fully committed to implementing the Uluru Statement from the Heart

Against the obvious and clearly stated instruction if the people, from one side of the continent to the other. Australians do not want it.

Is this government deaf, dumb and blind? Do they really want to be at war with the people? Are they really so stupid? This wasn’t some sort of marginal decision, it was emphatic.

I see Minns is also yapping about introducing something of the sort at state level, regardless of the fact that Labor electorates voted No. His own constituents. Let that sink in. The Yes voters had, by and large, abandoned both Lib and Lab for Teals.

What is it about this proposed legislation that makes it so politically tempting, even though it might spell resounding defeat? What is it that they aren’t telling us? Why aren’t the Libs all over this? Are they, but are simply not being reported by the media propagandists who remain unchastened by their exposed partisanship and rank wrongology?

Frank
Frank
October 17, 2023 7:18 am

Mr Albanese told the parliament that Makarrata “is simply a ­Yolngu word for coming together after struggle”.

Sort of like jihad then.

Dot
Dot
October 17, 2023 7:18 am

Remember we are not dealing with normal decent people.

People?

calli
calli
October 17, 2023 7:21 am

Great. A member of the CBA board is a Hamas shill.

The corporates just stagger from one rake to the next.

And…if you’re on the board of one of Australia’s biggest banks, there is no “private capacity”. Like Albo’s son, you are a public figure whether you like it or not. You don’t get to pick and choose.

Dot
Dot
October 17, 2023 7:21 am

A public relations executive with a leading Australian bank has claimed the terrorist group Hamas has been demonised

Time to get warrants for the entire place! Who knows what will turn up!

calli
calli
October 17, 2023 7:23 am

It’s also very telling (and amusing) that the only people in Australia who voted overwhelmingly for more government reside in Canberra.

A one-liner that will not grow old with use.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
October 17, 2023 7:30 am

Vicki, in 2018 Hairy and I drove around Crete and visited Knossos, an interesting site, where Evans has reconstituted probably more than archaeology strictly allows. I enjoyed it though and blogged here about our visit. I think Minoan culture was both gracious and far ahead of its time, the result of an emphasis on seafaring and trading rather than warfare. Santorini’s Acrotiri is of course also a part of those times,; the frescoes are outstanding.

The museum at Heracleon in Crete contains the snake goddess figurines and so many objects from an amazing culture 2500 to 3000 years ago. Worth spending a day in there to absorb it all.

This time we’ve only done a re-visit to Chania and surrounds.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 17, 2023 7:31 am

Daily Mail.
Waleed Aly says Voice referendum was too ‘complicated’ for ‘less educated’ Australians to understand – after only the most elite suburbs voted Yes

Not a good sign for Teh Project ratings.

rosie
rosie
October 17, 2023 7:33 am

No the bible did not say she had another son or any other children.

James may have been a half brother or a cousin
who was James

rosie
rosie
October 17, 2023 7:35 am

Oh the condensation.
Perhaps Waleed could explain the details to all us undereducated bogans.

2dogs
2dogs
October 17, 2023 7:35 am

When Albo refused to provide detail as to how the voice would work, he also failed to justify why that detail wasn’t going to be provided. People might accept secrecy if there is a reason for it, but none was given.

He is still on the hook for providing that justification – because he spent over $400 million on the referendum. The coalition should continue pressing on this point.

duncanm
duncanm
October 17, 2023 7:37 am

flyingduk
Oct 16, 2023 9:16 PM
Toyota claims to have developed a battery that is now going into production that will extend distance to 1200km and requires 10 min charge.

I have trouble believing you can push that many kWh into a battery in 10m without melting something.

‘give me a wire fat enough, and a plug big enough’… etc etc

Tesla claim a 500km range on 82kWh (model 3)… so let’s say the battery has to be ~ 200kWh.

Tesla V4 superchargers can do 615kW, so that’s a 20min recharge.

10min looks pretty feasible.

rosie
rosie
October 17, 2023 7:38 am

Australia votes no, Elbow says full steam ahead.
Democracy in action.

duncanm
duncanm
October 17, 2023 7:38 am

.. further .. the greater issue is battery tech. Traditional LiIon doesn’t really like charge rates > 1C

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
October 17, 2023 7:40 am

I am sickened by the poor treatment of horses and donkeys still in Mediterranean regions. I shamed an owner today into giving a sad mare foaming at the mouth with her ribs heaving as she waited with a carriage attached to drag tourists around. Poor animal; I spoke to her gently and said I would do what I could for her; which I did. Ever since I read Black Beauty as a child ….. In another less analytic life I could have been a sucker for the Animal Justice Party, which is simply a front for the Greens.

Now, having just returned from the ship’s French Restaurant, I am resolved never to have fois gras again; poor ducks and geese are force fed to have fatty livers to produce this buttery delicacy. I had Sirloin with fois gras and truffles and happy to have it, but I’ve decided I don’t need to make animals miserable for life in order to enjoy that. Fois gras is not that good and not neccesary. The truffles I had with it were pretty ordinary too. So much for fine dining. The creme brule was not right either. It should be an egg custard with burnt sugar, but this one was a sort of almond paste topped with burnt sugar. Not a brule.

I think mass produced cuisine, while often good, as on cruises, also suffers from what I call the ‘blender disease’. Blenders don’t always improve things, nor add to flavour combinations.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 17, 2023 7:41 am

Uncle Luigi doing a good impression of a crazy girlfriend you are trying to dump.

duncanm
duncanm
October 17, 2023 7:42 am

Waleed Aly says Voice referendum was too ‘complicated’ for ‘less educated’ Australians to understand

more like ‘so transparently dangerous only the educated would fall for it’

calli
calli
October 17, 2023 7:42 am

Not just Elbow…we now have wall-to-wall Labor states, some Premier’s already making mouth movements about implementing a state-based “Voice”.

What’s in it for them, given it’s electoral poison?

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
October 17, 2023 7:43 am

… shamed the owner into giving the mare some water, I should have said.
I spoke gently and with soothing sympathy to the poor little horse and she looked at me so pleadingly, yet resigned to her misery. It was 98 in the shade here today, an Indian summer which is about to end according to the weather forecasts.

duncanm
duncanm
October 17, 2023 7:44 am

There’s a wonderful image attached to that Daily Mail article on Waleed.

comment image

calli
calli
October 17, 2023 7:44 am

Waleed has pieces of paper that tell him how smart he is.

They must count for something.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
October 17, 2023 7:45 am

A public relations executive with a leading Australian bank has claimed the terrorist group Hamas has been demonised and suggested it may be necessary to impose a two-state Israel-Palestine solution by force.

Has thee as y not been the repeating cycle – the Paul’s propose a two-state solution, the Israelis spin it out, and at the last minute renege.

Cheeses!

Still, it explains CBA public relations.

rosie
rosie
October 17, 2023 7:46 am

Labor have taken on collective guilt for the sins of the past.
It is part of their secular athiest religion that all must bow and scrape to the latest highest members of the victim totem pole.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
October 17, 2023 7:46 am

Auto-correct has become incoherent.

Has thee as y not

Has this not…

rosie
rosie
October 17, 2023 7:48 am

Yessers at prayer?

Frank
Frank
October 17, 2023 7:49 am

Waleed has pieces of paper that tell him how smart he is.

More to the point, Waleed has a hairstylist and a teleprompter.

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 17, 2023 7:50 am

Bar Beach Swimmer
Oct 16, 2023 10:36 PM
Dot,
All of those choices have the potential to bring in huge changes in this context. At the time of the ‘99 referendum the polls showed consistent support from the people for a republic – but only the direct election model.

The people’s respect and admiration for the Queen did not overly influence that choice of republic. Though maybe the question was framed as an either/or rather than pro/anti monarchy.

The direct election model would give a president a bigger mandate than a prime minister and would have the potential to create another power centre outside of the parliament, which is why the pollies can see the danger going down that path.

Don’t hold your breath.

A directly elected president could sit in the Reps, with a cabinet made up of MHRs from all parties, and govern while he/she had the confidence of the House. Lose that confidence, and fail to organise a successful vote of confidence in (say) 30 days, and straight to a double dissolution election, including for the president.

The prospect of facing an almost immediate election would focus minds.

No external power centre, and a focus on government.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 17, 2023 7:51 am

But Waleed, they are your target audience. Nobody would ever accuse Rove McManus of being too highbrow.

rosie
rosie
October 17, 2023 7:52 am

I thought it was the other way round ML.
The Israelis offer the two state solution but the palis never agree.

In 2014, 60% of Palestinians said the final goal of their national movement should be “to work toward reclaiming all of historic Palestine from the river to the sea

In 2021 the majority of Palestinians wanted the lot as well.

rosie
rosie
October 17, 2023 7:53 am

Exactly Bear.
Who thinks Higgins and Kooyong sit down to watch the Project every evening?

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 17, 2023 7:54 am

You could’ve knocked me over with a feather. The cheating Alinta’s actually won.

Yes they did.

Silver lining though – the cheating midget ranga only made 11, and Sooky McCheat is developing what is referred to as a big front pad.

LBW. 0. Would have been worth staying up all night just for that.

Dot
Dot
October 17, 2023 7:55 am

Waleed has pieces of paper that tell him how smart he is.

They must count for something.

My ears are burning, there’s not much left of them now, thanks calli, now I look like Mr Magoo.

Makka
Makka
October 17, 2023 7:57 am

Against the obvious and clearly stated instruction if the people,

Govts haven’t represented us in decades. Probably longer.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 17, 2023 7:57 am

… and Sooky McCheat is developing what is referred to as a big front pad.

Wasn’t that Watto’s downfall?

lotocoti
lotocoti
October 17, 2023 7:59 am

Speaking of cricket in far flung places.
The Chileans probably aren’t used to playing on a level pitch.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
October 17, 2023 7:59 am

The Guardian, as you would expect from a Miserable Ghost initiative, is reliably attached to every fashionable Leftist cause. However, it actually does do excellent interactive data presentation and visualisation.

The linked presentation of the distribution Yes vote tells a striking story. One apparently not yet clear to our political leadership.

Go on. Sully yourself and have a look.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 17, 2023 8:01 am

Wasn’t that Watto’s downfall?

There are several parallels with SmithCheat and Watson:

1. A propensity to fall LBW at the arse end of their careers;
2. Burning reviews; and
3. Being a giant poonce.

Dot
Dot
October 17, 2023 8:02 am

A directly elected president could sit in the Reps, with a cabinet made up of MHRs from all parties, and govern while he/she had the confidence of the House. Lose that confidence, and fail to organise a successful vote of confidence in (say) 30 days, and straight to a double dissolution election, including for the president.

There’s plenty of ways to do it.

Portugal might have what Australians want; the President has some meaningful powers but cannot govern day to day. It’s a Parliamentary government that is semi Presidential curious.

South Africa elects the President like how a PM gets chosen then they vacate their seat. Sort of a reverse Boambee Republic.

If people get really hung up on it, just get rid of the Chief of State position and divide up the functions (reserve powers really) across the PM, Cabinet, Parliament and both Houses individually and very marginally to the bench.

Britain might force this on us eventually and an Australian resident monarch is less popular than a late term State ALP government. Less than 15% support.

We need to think about it.

Cassie of Sydney
October 17, 2023 8:04 am

Chuckle chuckle….from The Oz….


CT pollsters out of touch with suburbs, regions
By JESS MALCOLM

Liberal MPs will push back against any future involvement from long-time Liberal polling outfit CT Group after its involvement in the disastrous Yes23 campaign.

Several conservative and moderate Liberal MPs say they do not want CT Group to be involved in the next election campaign, with party sources saying that Freshwater Strategy will likely take on most of the work.

The polling outfit, formally known as Crosby Textor, was founded by Mark Textor and Lynton Crosby has been the Liberal Party’s preferred pollsters for more than 20 years.

Freshwater Strategy is led by experienced pollster and strategist Michael Turner, whom Liberal Party sources endorsed as highly regarded within the party.

Senior Liberal sources said a decision on a pollster had not been made, noting the party did not use Freshwater Strategy for polling during the voice campaign.

‘Woke brigade’ thought they were ‘morally and intellectually superior’ amid Voice debate

Liberal National Party senator Gerard Rennick said CT should not be used by the Coalition in the future after its assistance to the Yes campaign. “They’ve been milking the party for too long, grassroot members don’t want their membership fees wasted on political careerists whose values don’t align with theirs,” he said.

Two senior conservative MPs said they would lobby against CT being engaged by the Liberal Party going forward. “Not if I have anything to do with it,” one said.

“They nailed their colours to the mast against the party when the party took a formal position.”

Another said: “I didn’t need to see their effort on this. I saw their effort on the 2022 election and the 2016 election. They have been wrong more often than they have been right.

“I can guarantee they won’t be getting much work going forward. I can assure you there is no love for Crosby Textor from the leadership team on the Right.”

One moderate Liberal MP questioned whether CT was any good and wanted all polling and consultancy to be put to tender.

A CT Group spokesman said: “We will not be responding to opportunistic comments that are clearly based on a misunderstanding of our role in the campaign.”

One Liberal Party source told The Australian CT’s involvement in the voice campaign had created division with Peter Dutton and suggested the polling outfit had become too swept up in “inner-city issues”.

Another source said the ­Coalition was “not thrilled” with CT’s connection to the voice but acknowledged Mr Textor’s longstanding personal commitment to recognition.

Nationals senator Matt Canavan also suggested the polling outfit had become out of touch with the majority of voters in suburban and regional areas.

“In recent years I have seen CT provide political advice that seems blinkered by the big buildings they work from.

“They need to get out of the inner city and connect with the vast majority of our voters in the suburbs and regions. Good political advice should be grounded in the real world experience of Australians who sometimes struggle to pay the bills.”

rosie
rosie
October 17, 2023 8:06 am

I know I know, everyone should move to Melbourne or Grayndler, only in those locations is true enlightenment possible.

Dot
Dot
October 17, 2023 8:08 am

calli

The risk of wall to wall ALP (or anything really) is this: s 51 (xxxvii & xxxviii)

The Parliament shall, subject to this Constitution, have power to make laws for the peace, order, and good government of the Commonwealth with respect to:

…matters referred to the Parliament of the Commonwealth by the Parliament or Parliaments of any State or States, but so that the law shall extend only to States by whose Parliaments the matter is referred, or which afterwards adopt the law;

the exercise within the Commonwealth, at the request or with the concurrence of the Parliaments of all the States directly concerned, of any power which can at the establishment of this Constitution be exercised only by the Parliament of the United Kingdom or by the Federal Council of Australasia;

Makka
Makka
October 17, 2023 8:11 am

“In recent years I have seen CT provide political advice that seems blinkered by the big buildings they work from.

Wasn’t it CT who said to the conservative base “you didn’t matter”, just before the Turdball debacle election?

rosie
rosie
October 17, 2023 8:12 am
Boambee John
Boambee John
October 17, 2023 8:15 am

calli
Oct 17, 2023 7:23 AM
It’s also very telling (and amusing) that the only people in Australia who voted overwhelmingly for more government reside in Canberra.

Just as in 1999, when the ACT was the only jurisdiction to vote for a (moar bureaucracy) republic.

Always bet on self-interest, you know they will be trying.

calli
calli
October 17, 2023 8:15 am

Liberal MPs will push back against any future involvement from long-time Liberal polling outfit CT Group after its involvement in the disastrous Yes23 campaign.

You mean…

…Textor doesn’t matter?

😀

Cassie of Sydney
October 17, 2023 8:16 am

“Wasn’t it CT who said to the conservative base “you didn’t matter”, just before the Turdball debacle election?”

Yep, hence my chuckling.

rosie
rosie
October 17, 2023 8:18 am

Hamas sticking to the original plan

Hamas demanding release of 6,000 prisoners in exchange for Israeli hostages
Hamas is demanding the release of “6,000 male and female prisoners in Israeli prisons” in exchange for hostages it took during its incursions, according to Reuters.

The news agency is quoting Khaled Meshaal, head of Hamas’s diaspora office, as making the demand. The group’s captives, he said, include “high-ranking officers” of the Israeli Defense Forces (IDF).

calli
calli
October 17, 2023 8:18 am

The prince of all German words is schadenfreude.

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 17, 2023 8:19 am

duncanm
Oct 17, 2023 7:42 AM
Waleed Aly says Voice referendum was too ‘complicated’ for ‘less educated’ Australians to understand

more like ‘so transparently dangerous only the educated would fall for it’

Change that to “… only the credentialled …”. They have paper credentials from universities. They are NOT educated.

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 17, 2023 8:21 am

Cali

Snap on credentials/pieces of paper.

flyingduk
flyingduk
October 17, 2023 8:21 am

However, she told me measles is really on the up recently, among younger adults. Apparently the childhood immunisations seem to be failing,

Its not the shots which are ‘failing’, its the immune system….. seems ‘boosting’ it with chemicals isnt helpful after all. Better to concentrate on natural vitamin D and avoiding inflammatory foods (carbs, seed oils, wheat).

Miltonf
Miltonf
October 17, 2023 8:22 am

Our political class work for foreign interests. Like so many things – you vote against it and get it anyway.

Razey
Razey
October 17, 2023 8:24 am

And Waleed has submitted his IQ test result for perusal?

calli
calli
October 17, 2023 8:25 am

BJ, I have a couple of pieces of paper that tell me I’m the best in a very narrow occupational area. They’re meaningless.

On the other hand, I have three walking, talking and productive results of a lifetime of effort that give me far more satisfaction.

Oh…and I voted “No”. In pen. 😀

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