Open Thread – Mon 15 April 2024


Pandora’s Box, Charles Edward Perugini, late 1800s

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Alamak!
Alamak!
April 15, 2024 12:53 am

e pluribus unum

KevinM
KevinM
April 15, 2024 1:04 am

Alamak!
April 15, 2024 12:53 am

e pluribus unum

Not only that but you were the first one and all alone, before I came along.
To be honest I still don’t understand the full meaning of that motto.

Dull as I am.

KevinM
KevinM
April 15, 2024 2:29 am

From the OOT
Knuckle Dragger
April 14, 2024 10:19 pm

Mr Cohen slammed internet sleuths’ accusations as ‘very dangerous’ noting they could ‘destroy people’s lives’.

Damned sure they do, with the multitude of conspiracy nutcases around, it will forever hang over his head.

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
April 15, 2024 3:13 am

And to the painting at the top of the Thread, those curses (sickness, death and other unspecified evils) flying out of Pandora’s Box must be invisible.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
April 15, 2024 3:21 am

Mr Cohen slammed internet sleuths’ accusations as ‘very dangerous’ noting they could ‘destroy people’s lives’.

Damned sure they do, with the multitude of conspiracy nutcases around, it will forever hang over his head.

Plenty here were convinced the perp was called Mohammed. On equally inadequate evidence and wishful thinking. Some fatheads just enjoy speculating and have very little interest in truth. Finding out that othere loonies would love to pin it on the evil jews just as much as our loonies would love to pin it on the evil muslims shouldn’t come as a surprise.

Both parties have made up their minds who the bad guys are and look only for confirmatory evidence. Both are feckless and irresponsible.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
April 15, 2024 3:44 am

And before anyone accuses me of bias, I agree that my prior probability that the perp was a Jew was much, much lower than my prior probability that it was a Muslim. The point is that nobody needs to rely on priors when waiting for the evidence to come in is painless and a far better guide to truth. The problem is that many enjoy idle speculation and have minimal interest in truth.

Tom
Tom
April 15, 2024 4:00 am
Tom
Tom
April 15, 2024 4:01 am
Tom
Tom
April 15, 2024 4:01 am
Tom
Tom
April 15, 2024 4:02 am
DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
April 15, 2024 4:02 am

During my spell in hospital, one of my nurses was a middle aged Muslim lady. Lovely and kind, like the great majority of nurses.
At one point, she recited gleefully the slogan: “From the river to the sea, Palestine must be free!”
I pointed out that it was a call to kill all the Jews in Israel, and she was horrified by the suggestion.
She was a kindly person, but I have to say not very bright. Nurses seldom are.

To another nurse I said: “I’m very, very, very clever, but not particularly nice. You’re very,very, very nice but not particularly clever. Most sensible people would think you got the better deal.”

The poor lass didn’t know what to make of this.

Tom
Tom
April 15, 2024 4:03 am
Tom
Tom
April 15, 2024 4:04 am
Tom
Tom
April 15, 2024 4:05 am

Chip Bok.

Tom
Tom
April 15, 2024 4:05 am
Tom
Tom
April 15, 2024 4:06 am
Tom
Tom
April 15, 2024 4:07 am
Zatara
Zatara
April 15, 2024 4:21 am

The thing is there was no great or substantial change in policy from Trump to Biden in IR.

The Biden Administration Gave Iran Billions in New Sanctions Relief Exactly One Month Ago

That’s $80 billion plus Biden has given to Iran during his presidency. That was a mere 6 weeks after an Iranian-backed drone strike killed 3 US soldiers. Trump didn’t give Iran a penny and eliminated Iran’s chief terrorist when US forces were attacked.

Trump tore up the ridiculous Iran nukes deal. Biden reinstated it.

There are other examples, but clearly there are substantial differences between Trump and Biden policy regarding Iran.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
April 15, 2024 4:22 am

Sorry for the interruption, Tom. For some reason something I posted well before 04:00 turned up later. Thanks for the toons.

rosie
rosie
April 15, 2024 5:19 am

The trans lobby in the UK exposéd.
Pity it’s full steam ahead in backward Australia.
https://twitter.com/Jebadoo2/status/1779121310456578415?t=mmPx0vcRBXMNJIUzGNHKPA&s=19

rosie
rosie
April 15, 2024 5:48 am
Bobtheboozer
Bobtheboozer
April 15, 2024 6:01 am

“When former president Donald Trump attempted to fill the SPR to the brim when oil prices were at a rock-bottom price of $24 a barrel, congressional Democrats blocked the purchase, claiming it would be an oil-industry bailout,” the outlet reported.

With Strategic Petroleum Reserve at Historic Lows, Biden Cancels Replenishment Order

Last edited 2 months ago by Bobtheboozer
132andBush
132andBush
April 15, 2024 6:17 am

Had a bloke say to me yesterday that he reckons the corpse in the WH is fast tracking the wrecking of the US and therefore the rest of us because he knows Trump will win. And this from a man who is not particularly deep into politics.
I’d say “fast track” is an understatement.

calli
calli
April 15, 2024 6:36 am

Given the events of the last couple of days…nice art choice Dover! 😀

Eyrie
Eyrie
April 15, 2024 6:37 am

The trans lobby in the UK exposéd.
Pity it’s full steam ahead in backward Australia.

Australia will do dumb shit for longer and do it harder than anyone else in order to get a “better” result.
Straya!

Tom
Tom
April 15, 2024 7:22 am

Buried in our distress over the Bondi bloodbath, this is a must-read by Greg Sheridan in Friday’s Paywallian on New Zealand’s attempt to recover from the wrecking ball that was Jacinta Ardern:

PM Luxon turns back the clock on Ardern

Christopher Luxon, the urbane businessman newly in charge of our beloved neighbour across the ditch as New Zealand’s recently elected prime minister, has a couple of truly shocking things to tell me about the task ahead.
The most shocking is this: “Fifty-four per cent of our kids are not in regular school attendance.”
For a First World nation, especially one that once enjoyed a reputation as the epitome of undramatic common sense, that’s a staggering statistic.
Luxon continues: “By the age of 15, they will lose about a year’s education. It’s the statistic that over the last three years (his time in politics) has kept me awake most at night. Some 50 per cent of our kids are not ready (not at the required standard) when they get to high school. We’re doing poorly in comparison with Australia, the UK, Canada and other nations we look to.”
Let’s go away from education to another Luxon shocker fact: “The previous government (of Jacinda Ardern) increased government spending by 84 per cent. They increased debt from $NZ5bn ($4.6bn) to $NZ100bn. They hired 16,000 more public servants. There was a massive increase in consultants. Hospital wait lists went through the roof. There was a huge rise in youth crime.
“So the previous government spent more, borrowed more, taxed more, hired more bureaucrats and actually delivered worse outcomes. To achieve that combination takes a very unique skill set.”
Maybe not quite so unique in politics as Luxon would wish.
Ardern now enjoys two separate fellowships at Harvard University, which shows how astonishingly perverse Western universities have become, for the chief service to education the experience of her government offers is how spectacularly even a short period of truly dreadful government can mess up a previously successful country.
In fairness to Luxon, he doesn’t say a disparaging thing about his predecessor by name. He’s a positive guy, with a familiar CEO manner of directness and can-do optimism. But to have any chance of turning New Zealand’s dismal recent performance around, he has to tell his countrymen exactly how big the problems are and how big the adjustments will be.
One of his colleagues, Regulation Minister David Seymour, leader of the free-market ACT party that is in coalition with Luxon’s Nationals, in a separate interview tells me the challenge, not just for the government but for the whole nation, is whether New Zealand can hold on to its status as a First World nation with a First World economy, services and living standards.
In a powerful State of the Nation speech in late February, Luxon offered other shocker facts, all gruesome but true. Since 2000, New Zealand students have fallen from fourth in the developed world for mastery of maths to 19th. There are 70,000 more New Zealanders on Jobseeker unemployment benefits than there were in 2017.
Luxon said in that speech: “New Zealand’s economy is now less productive than vast swathes of the former Eastern Bloc, including Poland, Slovenia, Slovakia and Lithuania … The median full-time worker in Australia now earns $20,000 more a year than someone in New Zealand.”
Partly for that reason, there are more than 600,000 New Zealanders living in Australia, many among the brightest their nation produces.
Luxon in conversation amplifies the social and economic cost of the last government’s radical increase in spending: “That drove into domestic inflation, which led to higher interest rates, and that led to recession and growing unemployment … We’ve had a recession. Four out of five of the last quarters have seen negative growth and we’ve got a structural deficit.”
Notwithstanding all of those facts, Luxon is brimming with energy, confidence and a determination to get the NZ economy, and society, moving. His success is important not only to his own electors; it matters deeply to Australia, even if this is not widely understood. A successful New Zealand enlarges Australia in every way and is a critically important strategic partner in the South Pacific, and also, with a sensible government, more broadly.
Australia is home to 27 million people, New Zealand to 5.5 million. That’s nearly 33 million people with a First World standard of living. That’s formidable if considered as a single economic space, a single intellectual and consumer market, not quite a single culture but two closely related cultures. Once it was doctrine of both nations that we were a single strategic space. Maybe we won’t quite ever be that again, but Luxon wants to bring the two nations closer strategically. That’s good news for Canberra.
As recently as the 1990s New Zealand’s per capita income and living standards were much closer to Australia’s than is the case today.
Back in the ’80s, NZ’s legendary leader Robert Muldoon could joke that Kiwi migration to Australia raised the average IQ of both nations. There was a time, when former PM Mike Moore went on to head the World Trade Organisation, when former PM Helen Clark became the head of the UN Development Program and when former foreign minister Don McKinnon became secretary-general of the Commonwealth, when senior Kiwis were a powerful presence internationally. But that has fallen away in recent years.
The All Blacks remain dominant in world rugby, and that’s a great thing. But just as Brazil’s peerless strength in soccer doesn’t make it a successful economy, this is true of NZ as well. Notwithstanding all the Ardern fraudulent fancy fairy dust, New Zealand has fallen away from meaningful institutional engagement with the world in the past several years.
Here is one indicative straw in the wind. Quite shockingly, though it spends more than $1bn a year of taxpayers’ money, Australia’s ABC doesn’t have a resident New Zealand correspondent. It closed its bureau when Ardern was PM.
Luxon wants to recapture the world’s attention. I meet him in the quite modest Prime Minister’s office in Wellington’s famous Beehive parliamentary building, which derives its name from the resemblance its strange conical shape gives it to a beehive.
He wants not only to re-energise New Zealand but also to recapture the world’s attention. His own story is inspiring enough.
Now 53, Luxon was not born to wealth or power. His parents left school in their mid-teens. He got a good education at a state school, was the first in his family to go to university, graduated in commerce from the University of Auckland and headed off into a stellar corporate career at Unilever, then running Air New Zealand. He lived away from NZ for 16 years, including stints in Australia, New York, Chicago and Canada.
“The key message I’m sending out is that New Zealand is under new management and we’re open for business. We want to bring ambition and aspiration … We want to be one of the leading small countries on Earth. That means building a world-class education system; providing modern, reliable infrastructure; embracing science and technological change; being an easy place to do business; having strong relationships and partnerships with the world.”
On the domestic front, Luxon’s government has already taken a blizzard of actions. “There was a lot of high and mighty language, but the ideological projects ended up not delivering anything,” he says.
So he has axed a lot of them – Auckland light rail; a project called Let’s Get Wellington Moving that had six years of discussions and no movement. In education he has made a raft of critical, early reforms. He has ensured that in every primary school there is one full hour a day on mathematics, another on reading, another on writing. He has banned mobile phones in schools. The government has formally committed to phonics in teaching literacy. It has rejected the fuzzy so-called student-centric approach to curriculum and instead will produce a national curriculum on history, English, maths and other subjects by the end of the year. These will be taught across NZ schools.r the economy’
His government quickly cut or abolished a raft of taxes, among them the so-called ute tax and the Auckland Regional Fuel Tax.
Most important are two early economic reforms. He’s getting rid of the previous government’s re-regulation of the labour market, including by allowing 90-day trials and abolishing Fair Pay Agreements. Even more important, he has retuned the Reserve Bank of New Zealand to its old practice of having one objective: price stability.
It’s surely worth noting that these are the opposite to policy measures the Albanese government has adopted. Last year, the Albanese government required the Reserve Bank of Australia to give equal weight to full employment as to inflation. And it has moved at a furious pace to re-regulate the labour market. It’s as if New Zealand and Australia were two family members who each took a different train, coming from opposite directions to a common station. They got off, waved at each other and switched trains, the Albanese government emulating some Ardern policies and NZ boarding the train to common sense. Luxon, of course, didn’t make any such comparison.
His government has also won some international comment for its new approach to Maori issues. Luxon is not revolutionary here but is moving away from much of the co-governance model of his predecessor. Nonetheless, there is a limit to his challenge to NZ orthodoxy on this: “We do believe in the Treaty of Waitangi (an 1840 treaty between the British Crown and Maori tribes) as a foundational document that must be honoured. It wasn’t honoured historically, so since 1995 we’ve had settlements with individual tribes. That typically involves an apology and redress financially.
“Many of those tribes have built businesses and the Maori economy has become an important part of our economy. But we don’t support co-governance of national public services. We’re all equal citizens and we don’t want a separate Maori health system and a non-Maori health system. We want to have one national health system. We want one education system.”
In response to questioning, Luxon outlines examples of the new government’s policy. It abolished the Three Waters initiative. This, he says, took away water management rights from 67 district councils that had managed them for decades and gave the power instead to 10 new authorities with co-governance (Maori and non-Maori) models. Luxon’s govern­ment restored control to the 67 district councils.y race’: ACT Party leader
A further reform of councils is fascinating. Some councils have dedicated Maori wards. This too is part of the idea that Maori and non-Maori have to be elected separately. Luxon’s government has provided that to have dedicated Maori wards, in which only Maori can vote and be elected, a council must hold a referendum of all its voters on the issue. Local communities where a majority vote to have separate Maori representation are welcome to do so. In local council areas where the population votes against it, all citizens will vote and stand for election regardless of their racial background.
Those campaigning against this measure claim Luxon’s government is overriding local communities. But it’s impossible to see this reform as other than empowering local communities, though perhaps at the expense of local bureaucrats or politically correct dogma.
In strategic matters, Luxon wants to get closer to Australia. He has a comprehensive vision of this: “We want to deepen our relationship with our traditional allies. Our No.1 priority is our relationship with Australia, in what is a more competitive geo-strategic environment. On security and defence, I really want NZ to be a force multiplier, and interoperable with Australia. That’s our only ally.
“There’s work for us to do together in the Pacific, how we buttress our Pacific Island nation partners and friends, knowing it’s a more competitive geo-strategic environment.
“And the third area is there’s an opportunity to put more life into the economic co-operation agenda (between Australia and NZ). There’s probably a need for us to reframe what an economic relationship could look like.”
Luxon plans to do more than recent NZ governments on defence (in truth it would be challenging to do much less): “All three parties in our coalition (National, ACT and NZ First) want to spend more on defence. We think that’s important.” In the meantime, he points to strong signs of more intimate Canberra-Wellington co-operation: “There’s lots more tensions in geopolitical matters, in our part of the world, the Indo-Pacific; in Russia’s evil war against Ukraine; in the Israel-Gaza conflict. You’ve seen us get more aligned on those issues through joint statements (of leaders from Australia, NZ and Canada). We’ve both (Canberra and Wellington) contributed military personnel to the Red Sea operations against the Houthis; we’ve both put aid packages together to support Ukraine.”
The Luxon government recently called out China publicly over a cyber attack, a most unusual move for Wellington.
Luxon says: “Our position’s probably not that dissimilar to Australia’s. We have a longstanding, complex and significant relationship with China. There are massive areas of co-operation over trade and climate.
“At the same time we acknowledge that we have different values, and differences on a range of issues. We’ll consistently articulate those privately and publicly.”
One area where Luxon’s government agrees with Canberra and disagrees with Beijing is AUKUS: “Our view is that AUKUS is very good for our region. It provides greater security and greater prosperity ultimately. Like the previous government, we want to be able to explore NZ participation in pillar two (technical co-operation other than nuclear submarines) of AUKUS.
“We believe the AUKUS subs and AUKUS are completely in compliance with the Treaty of Rarotonga (the South Pacific nuclear-free treaty).”
NZ left the ANZUS alliance in 1986 because it decided it would not allow nuclear-armed or nuclear-powered ships to visit its ports. It wanted the US to certify that any naval vessel that visited NZ was neither nuclear-armed nor nuclear-powered. The US, naturally, wouldn’t do this. ANZUS died and the US-Australia alliance became a two-party partnership of ever greater intimacy, while Wellington lost strategic relevance as it abandoned its magnificent military inheritance and all the vast influence that came from being an ally in good standing of the US.
Australia is due to get its first nuclear-powered submarine in just eight years, 2032. Given Australia’s AUKUS subs will never carry nuclear weapons, could they ever be welcome in NZ ports? “That’s something we’ll look at,” Luxon says. “It’s something we haven’t yet contemplated. I appreciate the submarines are still some distance from materialising yet.”
That seems as promising as it could possibly be, but Luxon, perhaps realising he might have, in friendship and trans-Tasman solidarity, gone one centimetre further than intended, quickly emphasises that NZ’s policy bans the visit of both nuclear-armed and nuclear-powered naval vessels, and there has been no change in the policy.
At one point in our discussion, Luxon comments that only through rigorous fiscal discipline is a government able to take care of its people, and incidentally to make desired investments in areas such as defence. Here is a Kiwi leader back inhabiting the realest of real worlds. He’s not daunted by the challenges. He thinks his native NZ is still the best and luckiest country in the world, and he wants it to realise its potential.
He has miles and miles to go before he sleeps. And more than just New Zealand rides on his success.

Link.

Helen
Helen
April 15, 2024 7:23 am

Reposting on this thread

I was reading the time line of events from the Oz at Bondi last night and noticed that the killer begins killing at 3.20 pm. About 200 tactical police storm the centre at 3.40 pm. At 4.00 pm a lone police inspector, having been nearby on another job, and, running into the centre and asking questions on the way, fronted him and shot hime dead.
My question is, what were the tactical group doing in that 20 minutes people were dying? And, if this copper with common sense and courage had been somewhere else in the city and unable to respond, how many more people would have died before the tactical group could finish their toolbox meeting and find the guy and negotiate with him?

Tom
Tom
April 15, 2024 7:25 am

Dover, could you please approve the long piece on NZ’s recovery from Ardern I posted at 7.12am? Thanks

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
April 15, 2024 7:29 am

I have to say not very bright. Nurses seldom are

Hey, my sister’s a nurse.

Wait.

No, carry on.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
April 15, 2024 7:30 am

Blockquote fail.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
April 15, 2024 7:34 am

KevinM,

Since no one else has stepped up

e pluribus unum

Not only that but you were the first one and all alone, before I came along.

To be honest I still don’t understand the full meaning of that motto.

“Out of many, one”

It is a motto appearing on The Great Seal of the US, and on coins. And doubtless other places. It celebrates the creation of the US as a nation from the original 13 colonies.

It is used in other situations in other nations as well and associations as well.

rosie
rosie
April 15, 2024 7:35 am

This timeline and the one at the Australian has inspector Scott on the scene at 3.25 being directed to the killer by members of the public.
It doesn’t take long to stab a dozen unaware defenceless people.
https://www.news.com.au/national/nsw-act/crime/bondi-junction-stabbing-attack-how-it-unfolded/news-story/ac4fce6a10a03575ddf4d68d59d1dae8

Bespoke
Bespoke
April 15, 2024 7:38 am

That the president of the United States would essentially tell another nation to take it lying down is a sad commentary in itself, not to mention the calling into question of U.S. loyalty internationally that can result from it. The bad actors are the ones who should be told what to do.

132andBush
132andBush
April 15, 2024 7:43 am

Blockquote fail.

Nurse!!

calli
calli
April 15, 2024 7:46 am

Correction to that timeline.

I first saw the man with the bollard on Sky News and immediately reported it here at 6:14.

If you’re going to do a “timeline” at least get it right, “News”.

Helen
Helen
April 15, 2024 7:48 am
Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
April 15, 2024 7:49 am

The UN Security Council debate currently underway will have interesting implications. Israel is seeking a condemnation of Iran’s attack and to have the Revolutionary Guard designated as a terrorist organisation.

Given that this conflict pits the West against Team Xi, the chances of this getting up are minute.

To the extent that Global Times reflects Xi Thought, China has indicated its support for Iran and is instead calling on Israel to surrender to Hamas and stop being horrid to Iran by trying to draw the US into a ME war:

China on Sunday expressed deep concerns over the current escalation and called on relevant parties to exercise calm and restraint to prevent further escalations after Iran launched military strike against Israeli territory. Chinese experts believe Iran’s retaliatory attack in response to Israel’s bombing of the Iranian embassy in Syria is “restrained.” However, in order for tensions to de-escalate, it is imperative that Israel refrains from taking further provocative actions that could exacerbate the situation and lead to more damage for Iran.

The rules based system has arguably run to an end. Interesting times.

calli
calli
April 15, 2024 7:54 am

What I’d really like to know in that sketchy “timeline” is where he went during that 10 minutes.

Did he scope the centre out first to assure himself of soft targets and then retrieve the knife? Where did he hide it? Did he drive to Bondi from Campsie? How premeditated was this attack?

The police in early reports claimed he had no SM presence. This was false. He was active on social media and, according to some “sources” (Daily Mail) was in business as an escort offering services to both men and women.

Looking at his home in Toowoomba, things look a bit odd there too. They might be just a little strange, but his next job apparently was to dispatch hundreds of pigeons kept by his father due to neighbourhood complaints.

There’s a whole lot more to this guy than just “living with schizophrenia”.

rosie
rosie
April 15, 2024 7:58 am

I suspect News has got the storming at 3.40 wrong.
He started killing at 3.20, max twenty minutes to be alerted to the incident, 200 tacticals to put on the gear get in the vehicles from wherever they are located and be storming Westfield at 3.40?
That seems a little unlikely.

Megan
Megan
April 15, 2024 7:59 am

From that Oz timeline Inspector Scott arrived at 3.25 but didn’t confront him until 4pm. Ably supported by courageous shoppers. Helen makes a good point about the 20 minutes of faffing about by the tactical specialists.

Baba
Baba
April 15, 2024 7:59 am

Campsie?

In recent weeks, Cauchi is believed to have been living rough in Sydney.

He’d been sleeping in a small storage shed he’d rented at a facility in Waterloo, about a 10-minute drive from Bondi Junction.

Megan
Megan
April 15, 2024 8:00 am

And to the painting at the top of the Thread, those curses (sickness, death and other unspecified evils) flying out of Pandora’s Box must be invisible.

Shes watching them disappearinto the distance and thinking ‘WTAF?’

Megan
Megan
April 15, 2024 8:02 am

I’m having real trouble with that quote function on my phone.

calli
calli
April 15, 2024 8:03 am

Campsie was a suburb mentioned very early in the piece when details of the killer emerged.

rosie
rosie
April 15, 2024 8:03 am

He went to retrieve the knife he had hidden nearby.

calli
calli
April 15, 2024 8:04 am

He’d been sleeping in a small storage shed he’d rented at a facility in Waterloo, about a 10-minute drive from Bondi Junction.

Yet other media say the storage was about a metre square.

rosie
rosie
April 15, 2024 8:05 am

People are bagging ‘tactical police’ all over twitter.
It’s just possible the ‘timeline’ is wrong.
The msm hasn’t covered itself in glory reporting this incident.
Just ask Benjamin Cohen.

Bespoke
Bespoke
April 15, 2024 8:11 am
calli
calli
April 15, 2024 8:11 am

Sketchy details of storage unite here.

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2024/apr/14/joel-cauchi-who-was-the-queensland-man-who-carried-out-the-bondi-junction-mass-stabbing

Yes, I know it’s the Guardian, so probably all lies.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
April 15, 2024 8:11 am

Dr BG.

To another nurse I said: “I’m very, very, very clever, but not particularly nice. You’re very,very, very nice but not particularly clever. Most sensible people would think you got the better deal.”

Are you still trying to figure out why you had a shit time in hospital?
?

Helen
Helen
April 15, 2024 8:12 am

I am remembering tactical from Lindt – perhaps they have learned and I am doing them a disservice

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
April 15, 2024 8:16 am

The UN Security Council debate currently underway will have interesting implications. Israel is seeking a condemnation of Iran’s attack

Russia would veto, you’d think.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
April 15, 2024 8:22 am

It is possible that the Ninja Turtles were despatched from the shed at 3:20.
Eager media types might have inserted “stormed the shopping centre” for effect.
I feel for the Ninjas.
Standing on the footpath in all their armoured gear and being told to stand down because Mr Stabby had been taken down by a ladee whose only body armour protection was an extra squirt of Fabulon spray starch in her nylon shirt.

Indolent
Indolent
April 15, 2024 8:24 am

@OliLondonTV

This 25 year old was getting ready to get married.

Just days ago she went out shopping for her wedding dress and planned to wed her high school sweetheart this summer.

Just last week she sent out ‘save the date’ wedding invites to her loved ones.

On Saturday around 3:30PM Sydney time she went out shopping, having no idea her wedding would never take place as her life was about to be cut short.

Moments later she was stabbed to death by a frenzied knife man.

Dawn Singleton was among 6 people killed by knifeman Joel Cauchi at Bondi Junction Westfield on Saturday.

Indolent
Indolent
April 15, 2024 8:27 am
calli
calli
April 15, 2024 8:27 am

Finally found it. And, of course, from the usual “reliable” source…

Crossie

 April 13, 2024 9:09 pm

Channel 7 reporterette mentioned that there is speculation the killer is from Campsie. If true I can see why Commissoner Webb is at pains to assure the state this has nothing to do with ideation which she then clarified further not terrorism-connected. As I commented earlier, his name will tell us more than any of their assurances.

I think that from now on Seven’s reportage will be as valuable as the paper it’s written on. Oh, wait…

rosie
rosie
April 15, 2024 8:28 am

I’m no fan of tactical police, not after they refused to turn when the Burke St Mall Attacker first started to behave erratic.

mem
mem
April 15, 2024 8:30 am

Re the Leak cartoon posted by Tom earlier, I would have preferred that instead of the word “infamy” he had used the word “cowardice” as the opposite of valour. My reasoning is that I think cowardice better describes the opposite of valour, whilst infamy in some peoples’ minds may equate to notoriety. My preference is that this guy’s name is consigned to the dustbin of history as soon as possible and hopefully before other mixed-up minds seek “notoriety” in a similar fashion.

Indolent
Indolent
April 15, 2024 8:31 am
Indolent
Indolent
April 15, 2024 8:33 am

Even “demcracy” has lost its meaning.
Why ‘White Rural Rage’ Is a Threat to American Democracy

132andBush
132andBush
April 15, 2024 8:36 am

I’m no fan of tactical police, not after they refused to turn when the Burke St Mall Attacker first started to behave erratic.

Their weakness there being amplified by the willingness to brutalise the general populace who were upset enough to protest forced vaccinations and the insane lockdowns.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
April 15, 2024 8:36 am

Have the morning TV shows who defamed Mr Cohen made any attempt to apologise?

Zatara
Zatara
April 15, 2024 8:41 am

Oops.

Hamas-Run Gaza Health Ministry Admits to Flaws in Casualty Data

Prior to its admissions of incomplete data, the health ministry asserted that the information in more than 15,000 fatality records had stemmed from “reliable media sources.”

You don’t say.

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
April 15, 2024 8:44 am

Read This And Weep –

The Australian
 
McCrann: Labor ministry of incompetents way out of their depth | The Australian

 
Terry McCrann
4:38PM MARCH 20, 2024
82 COMMENTS
 

 
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PM Anthony Albanese with minister for destroying our electricity system, Chris Bowen. Picture: NCA NewsWire / Martin Ollman

It is almost as impossible to overstate just how utterly and dangerously and destructively chaotic the overall government of the country has become in the less than two years under Prime Minister Anthony Albanese, as it is to comprehend just how fundamentally and even embarrassingly inept and just plain awful have been almost all the individual ministers.

Yes, you can certainly tick them off – if only, indeed, we had a PM who had the slightest comprehension that he needed to do exactly that: tick them, if not, far better, actually cross them, off – one by almost everyone.

The minister for destroying our electricity system, Chris Bowen – setting to, with an almost unbound relish, “achieve” exactly that, in the shortest possible time. And so utterly unknowingly, celebrating, each stage on the path to that ultimate success.

The minister for taking us back to a 1970s industrial relations future – but with also, all the hyper-destructive 21st century “woke add-ons” – Tony Burke.

Has there ever been, in the 124 years of ministerial administration in Australia since Federation, two ministers in the one government that so seamlessly combine utter incompetence and supreme confidence in their inabilities?

Then, talking of pairs, there is of course, none more, well, “outstanding”, than the minister for utterly out-of-control immigration, Andrew Giles, and his putative boss, Home Affairs Minister Clare O’Neil.

You could almost see them celebrating the utter debacle they have presided over with the criminal detainees, about to get another stage worse with the looming High Court decision.

At least this has diverted media attention from the even bigger and far more destructive, and completely out-of-control, accelerating flood of migrants – more than half-a-million, net, last year; and threatening to go even higher this year.

It’s not simply the staggering number – almost the population of our fifth biggest city, Adelaide, in just two years.

Just think about that: the need to build everything that’s in Adelaide; and to do it in two years. Not just the houses, but all the schools, hospitals, roads, rail, power networks, etc.

And then staff them. In two years.

But the twin realities, that nobody in either political or bureaucratic government has the slightest idea of what to do about this; far less any strategic underpinning or direction .

And as for any overall prime ministerial direction or even just oversight? Are you joking? Fuggedaboutit.

I invite you to go through the entire ministry, one-by-awful one.

Indigenous Affairs Minister Linda Burney , who, backed by the entire media, corporate and broadly elite establishment, “succeeded’’ in turning an 80 per cent “Yes” vote into a 60 per cent “No” vote.

Disability Minister Bill Shorten , presiding over an explosion in the cost of the NDIS, on track to dwarf the entire social security budget.

Defence Minister Richard Marles, Environment Minister Tanya Plibersek; on an on in their individual incompetencies.

And above them all, a PM who quite simply hasn’t the faintest clue, who seems to think leadership is about swanning from conference to conference and wearing the right hat.

Well might you lament: Poor Fellow, My Country.

TERRY MCCRANN  

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Roger
Roger
April 15, 2024 8:46 am

Scientists from the University of Groningen in the Netherlands followed the lives of 2,772 young people, assessing them at the ages of 11, 13, 16, 19, 22 and 25. 

At the age of 11, the start of the study, 11% of participants were unhappy with their birth sex. 

This number dropped at each assessment until, by the age of 25, it was just 4%.

The findings, published in the Archives of Sexual Behaviour journal, raise serious questions about the approach advocated by trans activists to simply ‘affirm’ children who identify as the opposite sex and allow them to take puberty-blocking drugs.

Daily Mail

Indolent
Indolent
April 15, 2024 8:48 am
Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
April 15, 2024 8:49 am

The attacker showed typical behaviour of a schizophrenic episode.
No doubt he was off his pills plus the drawn and dirty look that points to no sleep and proper meals for many days, which would have driven him deeper into psychosis.
A fast food outlet employee noted his smell and strange language.
Statements by media and authorities about his motives for attacking mostly women are not likely to explain or provide meaningful answers for the grieving families or traumatised witnesses.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
April 15, 2024 8:52 am

Russia would veto, you’d think.

And China.
China has sponsored a UNSC debate this coming Thursday on recognition of a Palestinian state (incidentally, citing Australian support, courtesy of Reckless Wong) – and daring the US to veto against “world opinion”.

Roger
Roger
April 15, 2024 8:53 am

I invite you to go through the entire ministry, one-by-awful one.

Yet where is the shadow ministry?

Apart from Dutton, Price & Birmingham none of them seem able to lay a glove on their opponents in the worst government since Whitlam’s.

Baba
Baba
April 15, 2024 8:54 am

Channel 7 reporterette mentioned that there is speculation the killer is from Campsie.

The source of the speculation would be interesting, but code of ethics.

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JC
JC
April 15, 2024 8:56 am

I follow him on Twitter. He’s prick, and jeez that’s a lot of money.

Mark Cuban

@mcuban

I pay what I owe. Tomorrow I will wire transfer to the IRS $288,000,000.00 This country has done so much for me, I’m proud to pay my taxes every single year. Tag a former president that you know doesn’t

Baba
Baba
April 15, 2024 8:59 am

Bestiality Taught in Australian School’s “Queer” Sex Class

I certainly hope the school doesn’t neglect the importance of affirmative consent.

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cohenite
April 15, 2024 9:03 am

Apart from Dutton, Price & Birmingham none of them seem able to lay a glove on their opponents in the worst government since Whitlam’s.

Jacinta is the best. Rennick is also very good but the scum media ignore him; they also ignore Chandler, Antic, Canavan, McKenzie (unless she’s shooting), but you’re right there’s a lot of shit in little johnnie’s broad church.

Birmingham is a prick.

Diogenes
Diogenes
April 15, 2024 9:05 am

My question is, what were the tactical group doing in that 20 minutes people were dying

If you ever watch anything like Line of Duty (Pommie I know), they spend time faffing about doing risk assessments, establishing chains of command, doing orders groups etc.

cohenite
April 15, 2024 9:09 am

The police lady did well when she put 3 40 cals into the sick bastard. But just imagine one competent private citizen there with a 9mm.
The image of John Singleton’s daughter and the doctor mum handing her bub up to other citizens as she died will live in my memory.

Roger
Roger
April 15, 2024 9:11 am

Birmingham is a prick.

That may be, but he’s been on the ABC at every opportunity dismantling Wong’s dangerous amateurism and proposing sensible alternative foreign policies. He’s been particularly good on Gaza.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
April 15, 2024 9:13 am

JR @ 08:44am.

Thanks for posting the article in the Oz by Terry McCrann.

He doesn’t miss and is spot-on.

And next up at 10:15am is Justice Lee to deliver his judgement. Broadcast live on the YouTube link at the Federal Court website.

Warwick
Warwick
April 15, 2024 9:16 am

I am a security guard in NSW. I got my license about 10 years ago, after 20 odd years working in banks. I have worked shifts at various Westfield in Sydney, but only to help out or take extra shifts for money. I went thru Westfield Induction training in 2014. One day course ran by my then security firm. Basically the lesson was save yourself. Runaway. You are not paid enough and have zero training to take on these situations. in reality, the average Westfield is a lunatic asylum masquerading as a shopping mall. And you are of course called to attend. You hear code Black on the radio. Level one in front of Cole’s for example. Could be anything happening. And pretty much everybody does rush there, some a little slower then others. I have been very fortunate to have only witnessed nasty stuff. Nothing tragic.
The issue is. On a 15 day course for license there is zero training on self protection. Zero. I have never been told hold to confront a man with a knife. Maybe just grab a chair, fire extinguisher, milk crate. Trolley.

But the answer is guards at these places need to trained. A one week course on use of extendable baton. Permit the carrying of pepper spray and be trained in its use. Stab vests would be useful. And they actually need to achieve a high level of competency.

I work in A Grade office towers to avoid retail as much as I can. They are very pleasant places.. normally.

But the reality is people assume security guards have training in these matters and it’s simply untrue. ZERO.

PS. Very likely the guard that died was paid cash on hand. ” Off the books”. Glad Group was the employer, but really it was probably a subbie based in Bankstown.

It’s always been a dodgy shit industry, but arguably is worse in 2024 then it was in 2014. Something needs to change

JC
JC
April 15, 2024 9:20 am

Doc

Last evening you were berating people for speculating about the background of the evil bastard who committed the atrocity in the shopping mall.

Perhaps people were speculating because of the many times this has happened in Australia.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1778555439774609503

and this

https://youtu.be/XGdM6FcSYXw?t=149

We later had government officials denying the chant in the last video ever took place.

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Bruce
Bruce
April 15, 2024 9:23 am
Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
April 15, 2024 9:24 am

Baba
 April 15, 2024 8:54 am

Channel 7 reporterette mentioned that there is speculation the killer is from Campsie.

The source of the speculation would be interesting, but code of ethics.

Standby.
The j’ism “code of ethics” is going to be blown up at 10:15 this morning.

JC
JC
April 15, 2024 9:25 am

The image of John Singleton’s daughter and the doctor mum handing her bub up to other citizens as she died will live in my memory.

The only thing the female cop could be faulted for is that she didn’t empty the whole freaking chamber into the prick.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
April 15, 2024 9:31 am

JC
 April 15, 2024 9:20 am

Doc

Last evening you were berating people for speculating about the background of the evil bastard who committed the atrocity in the shopping mall.

Steady on.
Doc is very smart.
Just ask him.
So smart that he insulted the people in hospital who bring him his food and administer his drugs.
Super smart.
🙂

Bruce
Bruce
April 15, 2024 9:35 am

Speaking of Iran and Iranians, (and intelligence stuff-ups):

https://www.danielgreenfield.org/2024/02/did-iranian-agent-serving-as-pentagon.html

Roger
Roger
April 15, 2024 9:44 am

It’s always been a dodgy shit industry, but arguably is worse in 2024 then it was in 2014. Something needs to change.

No doubt.

But let’s also look at the issue of why we need security guards in public spaces at all.

Why does Australia have an (apparently growing) anti-social underclass?

What policy reforms in education and welfare can be put in place to curb this trend?

Makka
Makka
April 15, 2024 9:45 am

Speaking of Iran and Iranians, (and intelligence stuff-ups):

Looks like a DoD DEI woke stuff up, actually. And despite mounting evidence and risk, Austen’s DoD is doubling down on keeping the female moslem in place, no matter the obvious risks. Woke to the end.

Reminds me of the DEI clustf*k at Boeing.

cohenite
April 15, 2024 9:49 am

That may be, but he’s been on the ABC at every opportunity dismantling Wong’s dangerous amateurism and proposing sensible alternative foreign policies. He’s been particularly good on Gaza.

He voted against Antic’s gender bill; he is a climate change nut and wants higher emission targets; he supports the Pacific island grifters and is against lifting the ban on nuclear energy.

His neck looks like adam schiff’s.

Top Ender
Top Ender
April 15, 2024 9:52 am

A mate who’s a social worker says “supervised facilities should be re-established (as the old asylums have been shut down) for these people, and they need to be legally made to take their meds”.

Dunno what you do if they don’t though. Lock them up in real jails until they do?

Roger
Roger
April 15, 2024 9:58 am

A mate who’s a social worker says “supervised facilities should be re-established (as the old asylums have been shut down) for these people, and they need to be legally made to take their meds”.

Just curious….was he all in on the vax, lockdowns and masking?

JC
JC
April 15, 2024 9:58 am

So it’s a 50/50 bet.

The Silicon Valley of the Mid-East. Iran’s Ali Musk must have built them.

Half Iran’s ballistic missiles ‘failed to launch or crashed’

Roughly 50 per cent of the ballistic missiles fired by Iran failed to launch or crashed before reaching their target, three US officials said.

US officials said that Iran launched between 115 and 130 ballistic missiles that targeted Israel. When asked for more details about those strikes, the officials acknowledged that only about half of them were intercepted successfully. The rest failed in flight and didn’t reach their targets, the officials said.

“So much for the vaunted ballistic-missile capability of Iran,” said a US official.

Black Ball
Black Ball
April 15, 2024 9:59 am

Interesting article. Handsome Boy might have some shit on his plate. Hun:

It’s remote. It’s inaccessible. It’s poor quality. But Beijing is determined to spend big on a Sahara Desert mine to “de-risk” itself from Australian iron ore.

China Railway Construction Corp Ltd (CRCC) is one of the world’s biggest construction and engineering groups. It’s controlled by the Chinese Communist Party’s State-owned Assets Supervision and Administration Commission of the State Council.

Now it’s laying 6000 kilometres of new railway line across the North African Algerian desert.

It’s all about giving the Beijing-owned steel conglomerate Baowu control of the Gâra-Djebilet mine.

And that’s despite the deposit containing more than eight times the acceptable level of phosphorus – a mineral that weakens any steel the iron ore is used to produce.

Removing it is an intensely energy-hungry and polluting process. But the Chinese Communist Party-controlled South China Morning Post states these challenges have been “overcome”, making massive investment in the mine and associated infrastructure newly viable.

“China currently depends largely on Australia and Brazil for its iron ore, the primary raw material for making steel,” an SCMP report published this week reads. “Beijing is hoping supply from the Gâra-Djebilet mine, which has reserves of around 3.5 billion tonnes, will help diversify its sources.”

China is the world’s largest steel producer, producing one billion tonnes in 2022 alone.

That also makes it the world’s largest iron ore importer. And some 70 per cent of that ore is dug up in Australia, making it the single greatest contributor to Canberra’s export incomes.

Such co-dependence leaves both Beijing and Canberra exposed to economic and diplomatic manoeuvring.

Multi-polar Investment

Algeria is keen to find an alternative source of income as global demand for oil peaks over the next decade in the drive to cut damaging carbon dioxide emissions.

The 6000km railway will link the remote and challenging-to-access mine with nearby communities, transport infrastructure and ports.

But it was just part of a US$36 billion investment deal signed when Algerian President Abdelmadjid Tebboune visited Chairman Xi Jinping in Beijing late last year.

“Our Chinese friends have agreed to this project … to facilitate the exploitation of mines, promote trade and create economic vitality in Algeria,” President Tebboune stated at the time. “China views Algeria as a gateway to Africa. It’s a win-win partnership for both sides,” added Algerian MP Said Hamsi.

Work has reportedly already begun preparing the ground for a 575km section of the new line linking the Gâra-Djebilet mine in the country’s west with the northwestern industrial centre of Bechar, near the Morocco border.

Meanwhile, Chairman Xi Jinping complained to US President Joe Biden last week that Western moves to “de-risk” their economies from Beijing’s track record of economic coercion were “creating risk”.

“If the US side is willing to seek mutually beneficial co-operation and share in China’s development dividends, it will always find China’s door open,” Xi reportedly said in a Chinese readout of the conversation. “But if it is adamant on containing China’s hi-tech development and depriving China of its legitimate right to development, China is not going to sit back and watch.”

Steely resolve

Iron ore futures have rallied over the past week, pushing prices back to above US$100 per tonne. But it is largely driven by renewed speculation Beijing will be forced to inject massive stimulus into the Chinese economy.

In a statement earlier this week, China Industrial Futures said that China’s steel mills are “slowly restarting blast furnaces after profits improved”, with both construction and manufacturing demand having the “potential to improve” if such stimulus is delivered.

Markets have been speculating on the existence and nature of such an economic boost from Beijing for more than a year. But it has yet to deliver any significant policy, reform or cash signal.

As a result, iron ore – the basic ingredient for the steel used in manufacturing and high-rise development – has experienced a significant fall in demand.

Compounding the long-term impact for Canberra, however, is Beijing’s desire to divert where it sources that iron ore from.

And that’s already evident in new investment figures released this week.

Overall Chinese investment in Australia fell 36 per cent in 2023 to AU$1.34 billion.

It had been AU$2.1 billion in 2022.

The University of Sydney / KPMG Australia Demystifying Chinese Investment in Australia report found much of that decline can be seen in Australia’s mining industry.

“The emergence of Chinese-funded mining and processing ventures in alternative markets, such as Southeast Asia, intensifies these dynamics by creating competitive pressures and diverting attention from Australian opportunities,” states co-author Professor Hans Hendrischke of the University of Sydney Business School.

“This reflects the shift in priorities for Chinese ODI, which is increasingly flowing towards Belt and Road Initiative countries as well as towards mining and processing ventures in alternative markets, such as Southeast Asia,” adds KPMG partner and report co-author Helen Zhi Dent.

And while the report points to China’s renewed interest in Australian agricultural products and food, the industry has been slow to respond following Beijing’s punitive application of coercive tariffs during the COVID-19 pandemic.

If China does not buy our iron ore, guessing ‘Dr’ Chalmers may have to revise a few budgets.

Roger
Roger
April 15, 2024 10:03 am

China is decoupling from Australia.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
April 15, 2024 10:04 am

Wonder if Brittany Higgins is wearing knickers in Court?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
April 15, 2024 10:04 am

“So much for the vaunted ballistic-missile capability of Iran,” said a US official.

Bwah ha ha ha.
We were warned of “mother of all attacks” last week.
Turns out to be a fizzer.
The usual suspects are now spinning it as “testing Israel’s defences” and a “warning barrage”.

JC
JC
April 15, 2024 10:06 am

If China does not buy our iron ore, guessing ‘Dr’ Chalmers may have to revise a few budgets.

Black Ball, if no new iron ore production comes on stream and all things being equal, it will just mean the suppliers and buyers (China) will re-arrange themselves. It won’t change the overall equation. In any event, Iron ore is traded on a sort of spot market anyway, so most of China’s demand is found there and they have no ability to determine who the seller will be.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
April 15, 2024 10:10 am

Check out the piece sh*t @1:21

F**k flying that!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Hkht0e-uJo

Roger
Roger
April 15, 2024 10:12 am

Bwah ha ha ha.

We were warned of “mother of all attacks” last week.

Turns out to be a fizzer.

Between the rhetoric and the reality falls the long shadow of the minaret.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
April 15, 2024 10:12 am

Wonder if Brittany Higgins is wearing knickers in Court?

Will she even be there? Or still tucked up in the shack with the grifting slob in France?

We’ll see in a few minutes.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
April 15, 2024 10:20 am

Epic fail in the Federal Court.

No sound!

Diogenes
Diogenes
April 15, 2024 10:21 am

We’ll see in a few minutes.

Anybody having sound issues

Delta A
Delta A
April 15, 2024 10:21 am

I have no sound on the livestream judgement.

Baba
Baba
April 15, 2024 10:21 am

What a circus. It never ends.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
April 15, 2024 10:21 am

I thought I was the only one on mute.

Gilas
Gilas
April 15, 2024 10:24 am

The Lehrmann judgement livestream goes mute after a few seconds, 26,000+ people watching and clueless..

Good work, FCA!

Diogenes
Diogenes
April 15, 2024 10:26 am

The Lehrmann judgement livestream goes mute after a few seconds, 26,000+ people watching and clueless..

There was about 2 minutes of sound. He described the whole thing as an “omnishambles” and it went dead again!

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
April 15, 2024 10:28 am

Not only no sound. Now no live vision.

Some little clerk is going to get a kick up its arse!

Walker
Walker
April 15, 2024 10:30 am

The judge rose and left the court before the vision cut out so I assume they are trying to fix things.

Bazinga
Bazinga
April 15, 2024 10:32 am

Beware prostitutes named Pandora.

Warwick
Warwick
April 15, 2024 10:34 am

Ambulance Officers, Police etc can all section patients. Patients are bought into hospital ED’s day in day out “under section”. They are not permitted to leave until they are accessed by the mental health doctor. They are 100 per cent confined against their will. And very often don’t wish to be there. They are chemically restrained often after being held in a 5 point restraint by 5 security guards will be sent off to the land of snooze. If they carry on then the process is repeated. When the Victorian police hit that escaped patient with a car then gave him a little kick to the head – well he had been bought in under section and escaped. The laws in place are very robust if needed. But, I think the system gets underwhlemed.

Vicki
Vicki
April 15, 2024 10:39 am

The Australian 
McCrann: Labor ministry of incompetents way out of their depth | The Australian

When you actually sit down and consider the suicidal immigration figures, together with other issues such as the punishing climate policies, one more than despairs for this country – you fear for our survival. I kid you not.

For my sins I spent my academic life as an historian. The current trajectory of the western world literally terrifies me. And Australia is leading the mob in suicidal tendencies.

What bl–dy happened???? You’d think as an historian I would have some answers. I do….but, I can tell you, the speed of the post Cold War decline astonishes me.

Cassie of Sydney
April 15, 2024 10:44 am

What bl–dy happened???? You’d think as an historian I would have some answers. I do….but, I can tell you, the speed of the post Cold War decline astonishes me.

The collapse of Christianity is what happened.

132andBush
132andBush
April 15, 2024 10:44 am

If China does not buy our iron ore, guessing ‘Dr’ Chalmers may have to revise a few budgets.

Probably won’t be necessary, Australia will be a renewable energy powerhouse by then.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
April 15, 2024 10:46 am

The sisterhood sabotaging the Fed Court livestream?

132andBush
132andBush
April 15, 2024 10:48 am

We were warned of “mother of all attacks” last week.
Turns out to be a fizzer.

The usual suspects are now spinning it as “testing Israel’s defences” and a “warning barrage”.

99% of the tech being either stolen or reverse engineered.

Roger
Roger
April 15, 2024 10:49 am

but, I can tell you, the speed of the post Cold War decline astonishes me.

It strongly suggests that things were rotten for a long time before 1990 but the stench was covered over…post-war prosperity being one factor.

And I agree with Cassie – the decline of faith is central.

Pace Richard Dawkins, cultural Christianity was never going to cut it.

Lysander
Lysander
April 15, 2024 10:51 am

Stream is back on at Fed Court

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
April 15, 2024 10:51 am

From the Daily Mail – no wonder he sired a loony…

The father of the deranged knifeman who stabbed six people to death and injured at least 12 more with a 30cm hunting knife has lashed out in a bitter doorstep spray.
Westfield Bondi Junction knifeman Joel Cauchi‘s father, Andrew, unloaded in a furious outburst outside the family home in Toowoomba, south-east Queensland, on Monday morning.

He blasted media for their lack of compassion before tending to the flock of hundreds of pigeons he cares for in the backyard of the home he shares with wife, Michele.

Rabz
April 15, 2024 10:54 am

Why does Australia have an (apparently growing) anti-social underclass?

A multitude of factors, none of them good. Firstly, socialism and socialist policies. Politicians are now unrepentantly committed to destroying peoples’ quality of life.

The education system is churning out useless illiterate brainwashed numpties that are in many cases unemployable.

Lack of employment and welfare dependency – presumably the Bondi killer didn’t have a job and so was leading a fairly meaningless existence. This also fuels resentment against those perceived as better off (why he chose Westfield Bondi, perhaps?). Into that vacuum flows alcohol and drugs, which certainly does not help.

This doesn’t include many of the useless unemployable “immigrants” we’re having foisted on us, from backward cesspits were social order doesn’t exist. Throw in an inability to communicate in English and presto – instant alienation and resentment.

Given the destruction of public trust over the course of 2020 and 2021, I did find it difficult to accept the official explanations for the murderer’s behaviour. “Not motivated by idiotology”, well that’s really reassuring. So what was he motivated by – or was he just another Strathfield Plaza style psychopathic nutcase, tipped over the edge by goodness knows what?

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Lysander
Lysander
April 15, 2024 10:57 am

Justice Lee exempting himself from the possible rope or not and what has been “taken up by both sides as political and cultural wars.”

Lysander
Lysander
April 15, 2024 10:58 am

Lee has called both Brucy and Britnah terrible witnesses; both of them!!

Lysander
Lysander
April 15, 2024 11:04 am

Lol! Lee says “for my sins, I have, again, reviewed all video evidence that has been made available through this trial.”

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
April 15, 2024 11:06 am

Not sure this is going well for Brucey.
Let’s see.

Muddy
Muddy
April 15, 2024 11:07 am

the deranged knifeman …

I’m not at all supportive of what seems to be a pattern in the media of establishing the offender’s image as some type of anti-hero with the sobriquet ‘knifeman’ (or variations). This type of imaging – replacing a personal identity with the weapon used – is potentially dangerous.

(No, this isn’t a plea to humanise the coward, but I worry how other disturbed individuals might perceive the notoriety created by establishing a 2-dimensional, cartoon-like image).

Lysander
Lysander
April 15, 2024 11:10 am

Indeed Pancho, but he’s yet to deal with Britnah yet.

(I did love Lee’s comment that “Bruce had a Walter Mitty-esque imagination”)

billie
billie
April 15, 2024 11:10 am

A mate who’s a social worker says “supervised facilities should be re-established (as the old asylums have been shut down) for these people, and they need to be legally made to take their meds”.

Just curious….was he all in on the vax, lockdowns and masking?

Why would that matter?

What’s the association you are attempting to infer?

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Lysander
Lysander
April 15, 2024 11:17 am

Sancho – he’s basically saying he can’t believe either of them. He tends to believe Bruce was a disorganised liar. Britnah was an organised liar.

So, is he going to discount all of that, set it all aside and just get to defamation or not???

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
April 15, 2024 11:19 am

I still maintain a judge can’t possibly make a finding of rape, even to a civil standard.

Tom
Tom
April 15, 2024 11:29 am

If you scroll back to 7.22am on this thread, you can now read in full what I class a must-read by Greg Sheridan on the terrible damage done to New Zealand by Jacinta Adern’s mad green-left government rampage and the attempt by new NZ PM Christopher Luxon to repair the country.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
April 15, 2024 11:31 am

Behaviour not ‘inconsistent’ with assault victim: JusticeEllie Dudley

The judge has given his first big indication that he may find Brittany Higgins was affected by trauma related to her alleged sexual assault.
Justice Lee says emails Brittany Higgins sent to Bruce Lehrmann in the days after the alleged rape as not “inconsistent with a victim of sexual assault.”
The court heard during trial Ms Higgins had various work-related communications with Mr Lehrmann in the days after the alleged rape at Parliament House occurred.
“I do not consider any of these 2019 conduct or any other of the alleged counterintuitive conduct referred to in the judgement, such as email contact with Mr Lehrmann, as necessarily inconsistent with a victim of sexual assault seeking to process what had occurred, working her way through feelings of confusion, questioning her conduct, considering what she should do and reflecting on how people would perceive her if she made a complaint,” he told the court.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
April 15, 2024 11:33 am

Higgins ‘misled commonwealth’ in $2.4m payout
Justice Michael Lee is indicating he believes Brittany Higgins lied in her attempts to win a $2.4 million settlement from the commonwealth.
The judge said while it’s not his role to make findings about the commonwealth’s decision to settle, he can make findings about the claims Ms Higgins put forward in her negotiations with the Commonwealth.
This is about the ‘coverup claim’, which formed part of her claim to have suffered victimisation, harassment, bullying and pressure to stay silent at the hands of senior Morrison government officials.
“It is evident that several things being alleged were untrue,” Justice Lee said.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
April 15, 2024 11:36 am

She’s really amazingly brilliant. We’re in safe hands!

‘Evidence’ suggests Joel Cauchi was targeting women: NSW Police Commissioner (Sky News, 15 Apr)

That is genius! I am aghast at her amazing intellect. On the other hand she’s obviously getting excellent advice from her latest press critter. Are we up to the fifth now, or sixth? I forget.

BobtheBoozer
BobtheBoozer
April 15, 2024 11:37 am

https://joannenova.com.au/2024/04/calling-the-greens-bluff-ev-sales-fall-30-in-germany-and-minister-threatens-to-ban-cars-on-weekends/Calling the Greens bluff? EV Sales fall 30% in Germany and Minister threatens to ban cars on weekends

Right when they are meant to be growing by double digits German EV car sales are down an astonishing 30% compared to a year ago. Their market share is actually shrinking. EV’s are not much good at reducing carbon dioxide over their lifetime but they are very useful for pretending to “decarbonise” the transport sector. So this creates a vast hole in the German government’s so-called transition, which has fixed targets for every sector. Problematically, the transport sector just doesn’t seem to run on wind and solar panels, or pumped hydro. It’s hard to decarbonize. Liquid fuel is just too convenient.

It seems the German Transport Minister is threatening to ban weekend driving as an ambit claim to expose the absurdity of the Green’s position. He is warning that if the Greens don’t sign a change in legislation to average emission across all sectors, he will have to take drastic action to meet the transport sector goals, which means banning driving on weekends. (Trap set.)

The Germans haven’t yet worked out that Central Planning caused more economic destruction to the Soviets than what they did over the entire war.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
April 15, 2024 11:40 am

Justice Lee dismisses Higgins’ bruise photo
Ellie Dudley
Justice Michael Lee says it is “unlikely” Brittany Higgins had “genuine confusion” about the cause of a large bruise on her leg that she claimed was caused while she was allegedly being raped.

Lysander
Lysander
April 15, 2024 11:42 am

Seems Lee threw Mr Auerbach under the bus.

Seems he throwing them all under the bus!

Lysander
Lysander
April 15, 2024 11:43 am

LOL! Now he’s throwing Wilkinson under the bus!!! “On four reasons…”

Roger
Roger
April 15, 2024 11:44 am

Why would that matter?

What’s the association you are attempting to infer?

I’m not inferring anything atm.

But, mutatis mutandis, the same moral question arises in both instances – when proposing compulsory medical treatment (and even incarceration), are we properly balancing personal liberty and the protection of society? What threshold applies for making medication legally compulsory, given that research shows that mentally ill people are only slightly more likely to commit violent crime than mentally healthy people (the far bigger contributing factor in violent crime is illicit substance abuse). Are we happy to lock up people who haven’t committed any crime, simply because they are mentally ill? It’s not necessarily fallacious thinking to be concerned as to where that might end up (people being incarcerated for wrong thinking?). Given that we already have the legal means to confine people who are deemed to be a danger to others, better to ask how that system failed society in this fellow’s case.

Lysander
Lysander
April 15, 2024 11:47 am

Lee says, despite getting legal advice from 10 on the Wilkinson speech, after 40 years experience in the industry… she should’ve known better.

I feel for Justice Lee in whatever the final finding… they’re all f-cking liars and what a tangled web they weaved…

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
April 15, 2024 11:47 am

Steel with phosphorus contamination, shudder. I choose life.

Ph is a big no no for metallurgical coal, unless they have worked out a way to extract that out I’d be wary.

Makka
Makka
April 15, 2024 11:48 am

The Germans haven’t yet worked out that Central Planning caused more economic destruction to the Soviets than what they did over the entire war.

Like all western Govt’s, Germany’s politicians have become heavily invested/committed in/to the energy transition scam. Backed up by the “science”. Given the immensity of state funded subsidy and policy backing, it amounts to nothing short of a wholesale plundering of the Treasury. Therefore, there is nothing that these parasites will stop at to get their pay day.

Lysander
Lysander
April 15, 2024 11:49 am

Pancho… can they all be charged for perjury???

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
April 15, 2024 11:52 am

Helen and Rosie raise a very obvious point about the Bondi timeline. I saw it yesterday on Daily Telegraph and it stood out a mile.

Starts stabbing 3:20. 200 Tactical Ops arrive 3:40. Lone high rank female kills him at 4.00.

They used the term “stormed” the building.

From time of start to end 40 minutes in a major shopping centre 2.5km from Bondi police station. Where were the other local cops? Possibly dealing with other cases which is why Inspector got to him first.

I think impossible to have 200 Tactical cops arrive in 20 minutes. Would pretty much have to have been sitting ready with multiple vehicles and only 20 minutes away.

That is literally 50 teams of 4 any one of which should have found him quicker than lady cop.

Has anybody seen imagery or footage of Tacticals inside the centre.

Plus how come lady cop was on her own and could find him when no others did?

Is this an issue the media does not want to mention?

It is so glaringly an issue that must be corrected or explained. The lady cop was great but something not right with others and their arrival

Roger
Roger
April 15, 2024 11:55 am

Higgins ‘misled commonwealth’ in $2.4m payout

Is Mark Dreyfus still on leave?

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
April 15, 2024 11:56 am

Wilkinson showed ‘lack of candour’ as witnessEllie Dudley
Lisa Wilkinson was “badly let down” by those advising her on a speech she gave at the Logies, Justice Michael Lee says, but the presenter showed a “lack of candour” when answering questions in the witness box.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
April 15, 2024 11:57 am

Not following this closely, but it appears that both of the chubby protagonists have been lying with their ears back. Pretty much as it has always appeared.

Looking increasingly like Linda Reynolds may end up owning a damp ‘chatêau’ in a dreary French village.

Roger
Roger
April 15, 2024 11:58 am

Like all western Govt’s, Germany’s politicians have become heavily invested/committed in/to the energy transition scam. 

They certainly were under Merkel; now even the German Greens are backing away from the lunacy and directing their attention to other issues, like imposing speed limits on the autobahns!

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
April 15, 2024 12:01 pm

Network Ten’s reasonableness argument failsClaire Harvey
High stakes for Network Ten – Justice Michael Lee has found their ‘reasonableness’ defence is not made out.
That means Ten’s only relying defence is truth.
Ten must have proved Mr Lehrmann did in fact rape Ms Higgins if it is to win this case.

Lysander
Lysander
April 15, 2024 12:02 pm

Everyone has been found to be a pack of useless liars.

However, it seems (?) Lee is now onto the “truth defence”…. I could be mistaken as missed a bit…

flyingduk
flyingduk
April 15, 2024 12:03 pm

Bwah ha ha ha.
We were warned of “mother of all attacks” last week.
Turns out to be a fizzer.

Unless of course, you understand that, ultimately, war is an economic contest, and the present Western way of war is very expensive. If the reported asymmetry of cost here is true (Israel spent over a billion, Iran spent under 100 million), too many more ‘fizzers’ like this will be ruinous….

Lysander
Lysander
April 15, 2024 12:04 pm

Lee:

“Higgins original date, Nick (from the bumble app) left the pub and swept right” 😛

Lysander
Lysander
April 15, 2024 12:06 pm

Was Lee just saying Brucy bought Britnah drinks “with intent….???”

Roger
Roger
April 15, 2024 12:06 pm

Not following this closely, but it appears that both of the chubby protagonists have been lying with their ears back. 

Well…they were aspiring politicians.

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H B Bear
H B Bear
April 15, 2024 12:06 pm

Next victim of the Brittany Blob AG Dreyfus?

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
April 15, 2024 12:09 pm

Ph is a big no no for metallurgical coal, unless they have worked out a way to extract that out I’d be wary.

While it’s certainly correct that phosphorus is a serious problem in coking coal, it can be removed in the steel making process – albeit at a significant cost in energy, furnace volume, and loss of iron in the slag.

For me, the significance is that China is prepared to diversify at cost and the risk of operating in a jurisdiction significantly further down the shithole path than Australia or Brazil.

Lysander
Lysander
April 15, 2024 12:10 pm

Still can’t predict which way this is going to go as Lee is suggesting Brucy plied her with drinks “with intent” but he’s also claimed she was a serial liar…

Or am I missing any hints from Lee here?

Pogria
Pogria
April 15, 2024 12:11 pm

I’m happy to see Fiona Brown has received a much needed boost to her character.
If nothing else happens, she should be amply compensated for the way she was treated, especially by Bulk Brittany.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
April 15, 2024 12:11 pm

Interesting.
Started to watch Fed Court on ABC.
Lee went through chapter and verse on the matters relating to Lehrmann which stretch credulity.
He moves on to the credibility of Britnah.
20 seconds in and their ABC cuts to a presser with Minns.

Roger
Roger
April 15, 2024 12:13 pm

Next victim of the Brittany Blob AG Dreyfus?

That very much depends on whether shadow A-G Michaelia Cash can be located and persuaded to do her job.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
April 15, 2024 12:14 pm

flyingduk
 April 15, 2024 12:03 pm

Bwah ha ha ha.
We were warned of “mother of all attacks” last week.
Turns out to be a fizzer.

Unless of course, you understand that, ultimately, war is an economic contest, and the present Western way of war is very expensive. If the reported asymmetry of cost here is true (Israel spent over a billion, Iran spent under 100 million), too many more ‘fizzers’ like this will be ruinous….

What basis do you have for saying Israel spent $1 bill on defence of the weekend activities?

Lysander
Lysander
April 15, 2024 12:20 pm

Lee: “Bruce had one thing on his mind and his object of attraction had shown interest, he wanted it continued”…

Then, its down to consent…

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
April 15, 2024 12:31 pm

Hmmmm.
Jurdge not buying Brucey’s story.

Lysander
Lysander
April 15, 2024 12:35 pm

Yes, indeed Pancho.

Britnah’s account is not credible but plausible.

rosie
rosie
April 15, 2024 12:37 pm

“I’ve wondered why an inspector – normally a desk job – was armed and fully kitted (judging by the footage)?…”
Because she wasn’t at her desk but was attending to a matter nearby?

rosie
rosie
April 15, 2024 12:41 pm
Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
April 15, 2024 12:45 pm

rosie
 April 15, 2024 12:37 pm

“I’ve wondered why an inspector – normally a desk job – was armed and fully kitted (judging by the footage)?…”

Because she wasn’t at her desk but was attending to a matter nearby?

She was out of the station doing licensing checks.
As she was not within the confines of the station, she would have been carrying a weapon as a matter of course.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
April 15, 2024 12:45 pm

Justice Lee on five facts that are trueEllie Dudley
Justice Michael Lee says there are five “incontrovertible facts” facts:
1. Bruce Lehrmann and Brittany Higgins were in the suite for 40 minutes together
2. During that time, Mr Lehrmann did not answer six calls from his girlfriend
3. Mr Lehrmann left the suite around 2.33am
4. Ms Higgins fell asleep after Mr Lerhmann’s departure
5. Security officers performed a welfare check on Ms Higgins and found her in a state of undress

Gilas
Gilas
April 15, 2024 12:48 pm

Not all lies are equivalent, it seems.
Brucie’s stupid, brainless lies outweigh Hoggin’s extensively documented falsehoods.
#MeToo lives on.

Lysander
Lysander
April 15, 2024 12:50 pm

Definitely going against Brucy now…

132andBush
132andBush
April 15, 2024 12:55 pm

Unless of course, you understand that, ultimately, war is an economic contest, and the present Western way of war is very expensive. If the reported asymmetry of cost here is true (Israel spent over a billion, Iran spent under 100 million), too many more ‘fizzers’ like this will be ruinous….

Flip that around.
What would it cost Iran to defend itself?
I bet it can’t.

Makka
Makka
April 15, 2024 12:55 pm

Lee is doing a reasonably good job of noting that Bruce’s behavior was pretty grubby, therefore was he defamed , really?

Warwick
Warwick
April 15, 2024 12:55 pm

This judgement seems incredible to me. How could he possibly find that anything happened to any standard of proof? Its unbelievable.

Lysander
Lysander
April 15, 2024 12:59 pm

Can he find that there was a rape, but this was not substantiated at the time?

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
April 15, 2024 1:01 pm

Higgins’ behaviour ‘consistent with rape’: JusticeClaire Harvey
A crucial finding for Network Ten – the judge is dismissing Bruce Lehrmann’s lawyers’ claims about Brittany Higgins’ friendly behaviour after the alleged assault.
The judge is finding Ms Higgins’ behaviour after the alleged assault – including accepting a coffee from Bruce Lehrmann and exchanging friendly emails – could be explained by her processing the shock of an assault.
“I have little doubt that if she had been raped that by the time of these interactions Ms Higgins would be driven by conflicting emotions, self doubt … and questioning the prudence of her behaviour,” Justice Lee said.
“On the assumption she was a victim, (these actions) can be readily characterised as the actions of a woman who had not yet come to terms with what had happened to her, but needed to confront the reality that she had to work out a way of being in the same professional office as a male colleague who had assaulted her.”

Lysander
Lysander
April 15, 2024 1:01 pm

Lee leaves a door open: “I do not believe Britnah said “no” during activity”

rosie
rosie
April 15, 2024 1:02 pm

Of course there could be Ms Higgin’s known lies, and her not known lies.

caveman
caveman
April 15, 2024 1:02 pm

BH wins cause she got the money. I think Lee’s been tainted , get BH to give back the coin and I’ll believe everything the judge says.

rosie
rosie
April 15, 2024 1:05 pm

Lee saying that you can’t draw inferences from Higgins’s behaviour in the following days is neutral, isn’t it?

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
April 15, 2024 1:06 pm

You expected the judiciary was capable of going against the vibe?
The easy path is always an option with leaps of logic and reading the tea leaves in explaining behaviour a safer bet than sticking with the facts.
Madam Zelda in a wig.

caveman
caveman
April 15, 2024 1:08 pm

I know one thing, Jack Reacher would have sorted this shit out in one episode.

Makka
Makka
April 15, 2024 1:10 pm

Brucey is done.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
April 15, 2024 1:10 pm

Higgins, Lehrmann did have sex: Justice Lee
Claire Harvey
Bruce Lehrmann had sex with Brittany Higgins in Parliament House, Justice Michael Lee has found.
The judge finds the pair did have sexual intercourse on the sofa, and that Mr Lehrmann ejaculated at its conclusion.
Now the judge moves to the question of whether Ms Higgins was too drunk to consent.
This is crucial, given he has already found she consumed at least 11 drinks.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
April 15, 2024 1:10 pm

Hoggins evidence accepted.
Lerhmann is toast on everything.

Lysander
Lysander
April 15, 2024 1:11 pm

Done.

Brucy is done.

Alamak!
Alamak!
April 15, 2024 1:13 pm

Lee leaves a door open: “I do not believe Britnah said “no” during activity”

How could Lee know what Britnah said or did not say that night while in office. Fails the pub test and possibly any legal test?

/IANAL

Lysander
Lysander
April 15, 2024 1:16 pm

I’m not sure Alamak.

Lee says she was passed out but Higgins submitted that she “wanted to scream out” but couldn’t, “it was as if the scream was stuck in my throat…”

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
April 15, 2024 1:18 pm

Idjit Judge knows powerball numbers. Un effin believable.

hz
hz
April 15, 2024 1:18 pm

Judge doesn’t think B said No, ergo, he doesn’t think a rape occurred?

Lysander
Lysander
April 15, 2024 1:20 pm

So, Lee says what he presents as evidence is at a much lower standard and he is not there to pass criminal judgement?

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