Or family being contacted for a nice juicy ransom. Or maybe both…
Open Thread – Weekend 21 April 2024
- The beach which banned vanilla ice cream
- Bumtree #4
- Open Thread – Thurs 2 May 2024
- Bumtree #3
- Bumtree #2
Things we mere males do not know. My wife never mentioned or complained about how bothersome they were. Bless her.
Second Boeing Whistleblower Dies Mysteriously From Sudden Infection, Leaving Doctors Baffled Must be contagious? Or just coincidence? Who knows in…
Chinese belt&road takes on new meaning.
Sorry to pee on the barbie, but what sort of ‘toons are these? May as well just post oneliners. Sorry…
Good moaning folks.
brothers
No 3. Still on podium.
Wow quiet in here.
The rebuild on this Blackhawk is solid. A magnicent looking machine. The price tag would have been massive.
HDSparks:
MY BLACKHAWK IS DONE! Time to Fly it Home
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3P3FWkBFU
…. magnificent
Looking at the date of the new OT, shouldn’t it be 20th?
Not that it matters.
KevinM
April 20, 2024 1:16 am
Looking at the date of the new OT, shouldn’t it be 20th?
Not that it matters.
It is now.
Steve trickler
April 20, 2024 1:27 am
Looking at the date of the new OT, shouldn’t it be 20th?
Not, what I see.
Not being pedantic.
That is a very old Stage Coach. No horses and no wheels.
KevinM
April 20, 2024 1:38 am
Steve trickler
April 20, 2024 1:27 am
Looking at the date of the new OT, shouldn’t it be 20th?It is now.
Not, what I see.
Not being pedantic.
You are correct. I wasn’t looking at the side bar.
Johnny Rotten
April 20, 2024 2:46 am
That is a very old Stage Coach. No horses and no wheels.
Dover posts stunning works.
John Spooner.
Mark Knight.
Mark Knight classic.
David Pope.
Christian Adams.
Michael Ramirez.
A.F. Branco.
Matt Margolis.
Gary Varvel.
Tom Stiglich.
Lisa Benson.
Always good to see Sam in these clips. He was retired and Jack Stand Jimmy moved in next door. Jack invited him to the shop. Cleetus and crew reinvigorated his life.
Now he is legend with the blokes. He worked on F4’s.
He knows his stuff.
—-
Cleetus:
Our NEW GMC and Mullet Both DESTROYED Their Records!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGVqKHoUv9o
The Unreal Politics of Unreal Men – Daniel Greenfield / Sultan Knish Articles at DanielGreenfield.org
David Pope
What a rolled gold ar$ehole.
When in Rome a few days ago we went to visit the Borghese museum to see Bernini’s Appollo and Daphne statue and various Caravaggio paintings.
It was booked out more than a month in advance up until June but I managed to get some cut the line tickets for the 17th online , possibly due to cancellation.
When we arrived I thought it strange that there was no one from the booking company for the check-in as specified online. On closer inspection it turned out that the tickets were for 17th May not April.
Consoling myself with the thought that some of the great works of art lose something in the original and with the knowledge of the full refund ticket conditions we purchased some fridge magnets instead. More or less the same thing judging by the mob in the museum shop.
Following the trauma of the Vatican museum’s tour hordes we pressed ahead taking a tour of the Colosseum, albeit with some trepidation. During the tour a strange feeling came over me. After some reflection I diagnosed that I was actually enjoying myself on the tour rather than attempting self harm as contemplated on the previous one, it was excellent.
We were told there were wine bars and brothels active at the Colosseum during games. The idea being if the blood,guts, gore and executions in the arena were getting a bit jejune you could spice up your day out by getting pissed on cheap rotgut and indulge in a spot of whoring without leaving the venue and then get back to your seat when the gruesomeness picked up a bit. Roman civilisation at it’s finest.
Maybe the AFL should consider, or would it be more suited to rugby?
Aaron Berg
@aaronbergcomedy
From the river to the sea, Palestine can suck my D.
12:28 AM · Apr 20, 2024
Well done HD.
I’ve never gotten to the Borghese museum.
Christopher C. Cuomo
@ChrisCuomo
Stephen A. Smith came on the show tonight to discuss what he thinks the best way to beat Trump is – and he’s pretty disgusted by how it’s going.
https://x.com/ChrisCuomo/status/1781124528615129536
Stephen A gets more views on ESPN than any other analyst.
I wonder how long before ABC & the rest of the Disney family have a fit over comments like this.
From The Sultan’s article:
And it’s addictive – try walking away, even for a short period. I’m convinced too that bullying and control on platforms is also addictive, eating away at the person’s grip on reality.
All the points he makes are worthwhile. Thanks for linking, miltonf.
Dilbert
Also, thanks for the Rome travellers’ tales, Harlequin. I’m there in early June, which will be even worse.
Bought some of those tickets to the Vatican at eyewatering prices…hmmm. Will report back unless I’m flattened. So much for Covid Fear in Italy.
On that subject…
Harlequin Decline, have been researching the Colosseum a bit. Here’s a typical daily program:
Morning: procession, jugglers, acrobats, musicians, myth re-enactment (with scenery)
Lunch: criminal executions (elite usually left for a meal)
Afternoon: gladiators
Notes:
?
•program was not presented every day, but maybe two-three times a week
•constant battle to keep supply of animals up, and also supply of gladiators
•programs varied over the life of the Empire
JJ Sefton at Ace Of Spades in his morning report:
Entirely correct yet monty loves the shit. His mob.
Black Ball,
muntsac would be cheering on this tragedy.
https://legalinsurrection.com/2024/04/female-iranian-volleyball-player-reportedly-arrested-after-showing-support-for-israel/
That painting needs an update with a burned-out Tesla as the centre-piece.
I never prebooked Vatican. Didn’t occur to me. But then I was a winter visitor.
It’s €20 for a standard ticket, €25 for skip the line.
Pretty reasonable.
Winter looks like the time to go if you don’t like crowds. We’re in Rome awaiting a cruise and passing the time looking at the sights again. I plan to be ripped off again for gelato outside the Pantheon. Good times.
Last time, in Autumn, it was full but still enjoyable. The first time I visited was just after 9/11. The place was empty.
We finish up in Venice. If it’s raining it will be 9th Circle Dantean.
And it’s addictive – try walking away, even for a short period. I’m convinced too that bullying and control on platforms is also addictive, eating away at the person’s grip on reality.
I hate to break it to you Calli, but a religion is also a communal fake reality that people can and do live in. Most human beans seem to need a fantasy world to live in. They can’t bear too much reality.
@TheChiefNerd
@bennyjohnson
Beat gelato? Mandarin in Barcelona, raspberry in Grenada, lime in Huskisson. Doesn’t matter the price these were the best by kilometres. Same as miles but the numbers are more.
@EmeraldRobinson
I’m tempted to Puddleglum at you, DrBeau, but I’m feeling a bit more Gamgee-ish this morning.
You may be right, but I anchored myself to “fantasy” long ago.
Let me know when he shits himself in public like Nadler, or falls over on stage, falls up stairs or falls off a bicycle or shakes hands with invisible people or walks off in wrong directions or sniffs childrens’ hair or has to have a giant Easter Bunny as a minder.
This is how Americans view us, and they’re not wrong.
@amuse
CENSORSHIP: Australian police making it clear residents aren’t to share or read information NOT reported by the police – the police, and only the police, will be the sole source of truth.
@EmeraldRobinson
Here’s the family that @SpeakerJohnson really supports: FBI, CIA, NSA, DHS, and every other Biden regime intel agency that wants to spy on Americans without a warrant!
No proof of emissions impact on Burrup rock art, report finds
By paul garvey
Plans to expand and extend some of the nation’s largest export projects near the world’s largest collection of rock art have received a major boost, after a report prepared for federal Environment Minister Tanya Plibersek found no conclusive proof that industrial emissions are harming the ancient petroglyphs.
The long-awaited independent report into the impact of industrial activity on Western Australia’s Burrup Peninsula has stopped well short of calling for a halt on the new projects being developed in the area.
The findings come as a blow to dozens of activists, environmentalists and campaigners – including former Labor leader Kim Beazley and a host of former Labor premiers and ministers – who have been pushing Ms Plibersek to block Woodside’s plans for LNG operations in the area.
However, Woodside Energy – which is looking to double output from its Pluto LNG plant and extend the life of its North West Shelf LNG facility out to 2070 – and fertiliser developer Perdaman will be affected if Ms Plibersek opts to adopt the independent report recommendations.
The consultant appointed by the federal government to investigate the situation on the Burrup, Alison Stone, recommends Ms Plibersek order Perdaman to abandon its plans for a causeway across the site of the $6bn urea plant it is currently building and to redesign a laydown area being used to store equipment and material for the plant’s construction.
Ms Stone also recommended Woodside be barred from disturbing any of the cultural heritage sites in its existing leased areas, despite the company having previously secured the authority to do so under WA’s controversial Section 18 mechanism.
Mining giant Rio Tinto previously used a Section 18 authority to legally detonate the Juukan Gorge rock shelters in the Pilbara. Woodside, however, had already flagged that it did not intend to disturb any of the Section 18 heritage sites as part of its plans.
The report also said there was sufficient evidence to support that significant Aboriginal areas were under threat of injury or desecration, identifying several lots of unallocated crown land zoned for future industrial use where future industrial development should be barred.
The consultant’s findings about the impact of emissions on rock art is likely to be the most significant to stem from the investigation. The rock art of the region is at the core of the federal government’s ongoing efforts to secure a World Heritage listing for the area, and opponents of the heavy industry in the region had long argued emissions were accelerating the erosion and degradation of the estimated one million carvings across the peninsula.
According to a copy of Ms Stone’s report, obtained by The Weekend Australian, the consultant found that there was “not sufficient evidence to support the claim the specified area is under threat from industrial emissions and chemical discharge”.
She also said that the research on the impact of emissions on the art remained “contested and inconclusive”.
Just last month, Mr Beazley joined other Labor veterans including former WA premiers Carmen Lawrence and Peter Dowding and former federal Labor ministers Barry Jones and Melissa Parke in signing a letter to Ms Plibersek urging her to block Woodside’s plans for the North West Shelf LNG plant, also known as the Karratha Gas Plant.
The Australian Conservation Foundation has also recently released research claiming that the Karratha Gas Plant extension plan will generate six billion tonnes of carbon dioxide and be the largest new fossil fuel project in the southern hemisphere.
Stakeholders on Friday were scrambling to digest the report’s findings.
A spokeswoman for Woodside said the company would review the report in the coming days.
NOW, can we get on with the fertilizer plant?
I would have thought that myocarditis all by itself would be quite enough to force withdrawal of a drug, particularly one that quite obviously doesn’t even work.
National Academies badly misleads America about the safety of the COVID vaccine
He is totally captured.
@EndWokeness
Mike Johnson believes that white privilege is real and systemic change is needed.
How is this man the GOP Speaker?
Did Sweden’s controversial COVID strategy pay off?
The End of the Electoral College Is Finally in Sight | Opinion
This has been obvious for 5 years. Have our political commentators been asleep for that long?
You’re on your own: Dems want to send Trump to prison without Secret Service protection
How the FISA Reauthorization Bill Could Force Maintenance Workers and Custodians To Become Government Spies
I see the Russian bots have really turned on Mike Johnson now that he is making moves to fund Ukraine.
“Sure…you can have your fertiliser plant.
We’ll take Lake Eyre.”
DRBG while I agree somewhat with your sentiment about religion, the same applies with those of no faith. I think its a coping mechanism with the unknown. My wife sees the best in anyone hence we’re still married. My late FiL was raised by a Grandmaster in the Masons. He thought it a bit silly and nothing to do with it. His mother died when he was 10 and lost whatever faith he had yet in the 80’s had an audience with JPII as part of a world conference in Rome. He was most taken with him and understood how people could follow his teachings. I have no problem with religion as a guide to life. Inflicting beliefs upon others I do have a problem with. This covers islam to leftists and anything in-between.
“Weak People Become a Host for Evil – That’s Exactly What’s Happening to Mike Johnson” – Tucker Carlson Explains the Metamorphosis of Mike Johnson with Joe Rogan
ZK2A looks like we’ve had the BS and now its being turned into fertiliser.
Michelle Grattan at The Conversation suggesting – ever so carefully – that multiculturalism in Australia has failed.
Her solution is to try again, but this time harder.
Reading between the lines, she appears to be advocating for a Voice for ethnic communities.
Fail.
Mike Johnson’s Spending Bill Includes $300M for Border Patrol — in Ukraine
The full Joe Rogan interview with Tucker. Over three hours long.
Joe Rogan Experience #2138 – Tucker Carlson
Jews in UK face ARREST for being Jewish!
You may be right, but I anchored myself to “fantasy” long ago.
I’m also inclined to believe that the world will go on much the same when I’ve left it, even though I shall be in no position to verify the belief.
If Jesus had confined himself to saying that you will lead a happier life if you treat others with kindness, an insight Gautama had arrived at four or five centuries earlier, I’d be a Christian. But He added a great deal of unbelievable nonsense too, not to mention threatening us with eternal life.
The seventy-two virgins of Islam are also a frightful prospect. How would a bloke feel about them after a few thousand centuries?
These bribes are just too silly for me to take the whole thing seriously.
You fooled me once with Father Christmas, you’re not doing it twice.
‘Religion’ is a sociological term and too general as a category to be of much use in discussions re ontology or theology (or anti-theology).
It’s like saying “I don’t like fruit.”
Which fruit don’t you like and why?
Apples aren’t oranges.
And Islam isn’t Christianity.
Man Ignites Himself at Trump Trial: Shocking NYC Courthouse Scene
The Cass Review Shames the Gay-Rights Establishment… – Andrew Doyle
Hey muntsac,
here’s an anti-Trump activity you should indulge in. I reckon most here at the Cat would endorse it if you gave it a “burn”.
https://redstate.com/sister-toldjah/2024/04/19/watch-cnn-reporters-play-by-play-of-man-on-fire-incident-at-trump-trial-courthouse-has-people-talking-n2173037
The man who lit himself on fire outside of Trump’s trial in NYC has been identified as Max Azzarello.
“My name is Max Azzarello, and I am an investigative researcher who has set himself on fire outside of the Trump trial in Manhattan,” his manifesto read.
“This extreme act of protest is to draw attention to an urgent and important discovery: We are victims of a totalitarian con, and our own government (along with many of their allies) is about to hit us with an apocalyptic fascist world coup.”
“We are victims of a totalitarian con, and our own government (along with many of their allies) is about to hit us with an apocalyptic fascist world coup.”
“These claims sound like fantastical conspiracy theory, but they are not. They are proof of conspiracy. If you investigate this mountain of research, you will prove them too. If you learn a great deal about Ponzi schemes, you will discover that our life is a lie.”
“If you follow this story and the links below, you will discover the rotten truth of ‘post-truth America’. You will learn the scariest and stupidest story in world history. And you will realize that we are all in a desperate state of emergency that requires your action.”
“To my friends and family, witnesses and first responders, I deeply apologize for inflicting this pain upon you. But I assure you it is a drop in the bucket compared to what our government intends to inflict.”
“Because these words are true, this is an act of revolution.”
How Climate Scenarios Lost Touch With Reality
Just last month, Mr Beazley joined other Labor veterans including former WA premiers Carmen Lawrence and Peter Dowding and former federal Labor ministers Barry Jones and Melissa Parke
Greasy, despicable toxic parasites. Boy they really hate the working classes. Montypox’s mates. Dowding eh- haven’t heard that name for many years. Lawyer. Of course.
m0nty
April 20, 2024 8:42 am
Dickless linking to typical leftie bullshit. Biden wears a nappy and regularly shits in it so they spread lies about Trump farting. The usual projection.
In other news this was the best of Tom’s toons:
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This trial is classic 3rd world process.
Beazley Sr. (son of a storeman and packer) made the famous observation (at an ALP federal conference around 1970, iirc) that the Labor Party was being taken over by “perverts” and “the dregs of the middle class.”
He must be turning in his grave.
Finally Joe Rogan interviews Tucker Carlson. Only listened to first 40 minutes so far. All about their thoughts on UFOs.
As Santamaria wrote- this party of schoolteachers and left-wing lawyers.
A far lefty with severe TDS.
Man Who Self-Immolated Near Trump Trial Was Anti-Fascist, Warned Of “World Coup” And Wanted To Start “F*cking Revolution” (20 Apr)
How the US has fallen- Stalinist show trials now
Michelle Grattan wants a “voice for ethnic communities”? Considering how many specifically “ethnic” branches the political parties already have, there are already many voices for ethnic communities.
What she really means is that there should ONLY be voices for ethnic communities. None for “privileged” non-ethnic (surely everyone has an ethnicity?) communities.
From das alter fredde
And the Republican Party is full of these dirty little turncoats.
They need the Mother of all Purges.
Grattan, always part of the problem, still hanging around like a bad smell.
** chuckles
** my own thesis written much better than I could do it
— James Kunstler
And failed economists?
Notable that the two key figures in this government – Albanese & Bowen – both graduated from the University of Sydney (a decade or so apart), each with a degree in Economics.
But neither practiced in that profession…they both entered politics almost immediately upon graduation – Albanese as a staffer for Tom Uren and Bowen as a local government councillor in Fairfield.
I know Sydney Uni Economics had Economics I or Economics I (P) if you were a leftie. Warren Hogan vs Red Ted Wheelwright I suspect.
Satellite pics of Ishftan sites have come out: no damage.
In other words: to the last Ukrainian.
One for anyone who wants 4 year fixed terms. Didn’t Granpa Howard say they would be a good idea? Wouldn’t surprise me -add it to the list.
Some sad news from north of the border.
Former Australian Test opener Joe Burns has been released from the Queensland squad, with the Bulls unveiling eight newly contracted players ahead of the 2024/25 season.
https://www.foxsports.com.au/cricket/former-australian-test-opener-joe-burns-released-from-queensland-bulls-squad/news-story/d4ff1f17d73c74134a86c5165d61e365
And I’m sure a career as national coach of the women’s cricket team of Tunisia beckons for Joe.
I’ll swap with Joe.
Tunisian women are the most gorgeous creatures on the planet.
dover,
the spam-in-eater ate my post earlier.
it was rather harmless and funny
suspect it was junked due to the URL
any chance you can release it?
Didn’t Abbott taunt Labor with “aren’t there any Australians in the Labor Party?”
So what have these taxes actually done for Victoria? Hun:
The safest hands of the Toppest Men. What could go wrong?
a typical one dimensional rationalist viewpoint.
Heaven is union with God by accepting Jesus as your saviour. This will give you the emotional strength to overcome anxiety and other negative emotions.
Hell is rejecting JC, and being subject to the normal negative emotions of humanity
Is it ok to laugh whe your wife has a barrow full of rocks which is to heavy for her instead of putting it down hangs on and tips herself and the rocks into the garden. If its not, too late.
Monty getting his news fix
About as plausible as the tweet he referenced earlier today.
Hell is rejecting JC, and being subject to the normal negative emotions of humanity
Rejecting JC? Head prefect has to be taken with an open mind: on economics he’s pretty good; anything else it’s blather and cognitive conniptions.
Here you go Dr B…
Christianity Is Simply More Fun (American Spectator, 18 Apr)
😀
Good overview on the protesting Google fuktards who got fired. Mummy and daddy will be getting visits very soon:
Google Employees Arrested and Fired After ‘Sit-In’ Demanding Company Drop Contract With Israel (legalinsurrection.com)
Talk about chocolate to boiled dogturds.
Watched the longest Bluey episode, which is magnificent by the way. Tugs the heartstrings, makes you laugh despite your age.
Followed by something called Sally And Possum. 2 presenters, old mate dressed as a possum, albeit with jeans and shirt. Communicating with sign language which the average viewer would know fark all, particularly kiddies. Possum bloke sounded suspiciously like a kid himself.
Avoid like the plague for one’s own sanity.
What about the Easter Bunny DRBG?
To the classical theist, God isn’t the supreme example of truth, goodness and beauty, He just is truth, goodness, and beauty. So, when you are before Christ, the ‘reasons’ you might have given for denying Him will be truly revealed even to yourself.
More good Netflix viewing:
Luther – BEEB but okay, lots of action and gore plus an interesting though unlikely plot. Andy Serkis (Gollum) being deliciously evil. Movie.
Safe – more crime with a twist. Not bad at all. Eight part series.
Both explore shame and guilt and the effort to cover it up at all costs. Christie would call them “nice people” from the village, and imagine what respectable people are capable of.
Whats the name of that POS govt minister from WA. Real slimy prick, not that you could tell the difference from the rest. Used to carry round $50k in cash in his briefcase so his missus couldn’t get her hands on it when they were divorcing. I almost brought a property off him in Freo. Slum lord. One wall was missing in the back. No discount in the rent though.
calli the things scum do are fairly predictable and not really surprising. The things I’ve witnessed so called nice people do makes my curl. I’ve come to the conclusion the crims are a better class of people than the left.
The Toodyay businessman, who offended the mythical “Rainbow Serpent”, by building some earthworks on his property, has had his hearing adjourned by another three weeks…..Reconciliation? How do you spell that?
Apopalogies [sic] if the following has already been featured, but I enjoyed the imagery. Well, ‘enjoyed’ may not be the correct descriptive, but … you know:
“Whatever they may say about that president (former POTUS Trump) when they want to look cool to their electorate … when they actually to make nice to the U.S. president, it is like watching a tribe of baboons offering acts of simian homage to the leader,” former British Prime Minister Boris Johnson said last week during his own trek to the United States. “However baboons do that, which I don’t propose to describe.”
Hmmm, I don’t want to give any hints to our own stains-from-the-dropping-of-a-slug, but … I suppose they’re way ahead of me already on that front? (Maybe not front, but … you know). Johnson was broadly describing leaders of the EU.
When the Buddha was presented with the suffering man, he sought to make suffering tolerable everywhere.
When Christ was presented with the suffering man, he didn’t do anything for all sufferers – He cured only that one man presented to Him.
So, if that wasn’t about being an example, what was that about? Because otherwise, it sure seems like an irresponsible way for a deity to deal with that challenge.
Claudia Cardinale, half Tunisian and half Italian comes to mind. She couldn’t act, but boy was gorgeous looking. The only acting she could do was smile.
Cronkite wouldn’t like her because she was too feminine.
What about the Easter Bunny DRBG?
I don’t believe in him either. Although I’m prepared to eat chocolates and hot cross buns at Easter.
I’m actually a happy, sunny person and not at all plagued by anxiety, despite not believing in the divinity of JC, either of them.
Yes, Christians are good people to be around, and I would be delighted to see more of them, at least the sincere ones. I think you’ve got some great principles from a moral genius, even if you are fooling yourselves about some things. And if, like Will, you can only sustain yourselves in bad times by buying the hokum, well, best of luck with the method. It doesn’t work for me. I know deep down I’m kidding myself and that stops it working. But if you can make it work, good luck.
Like Calli, I can see great beauty in the world. I’m very fortunate that I’m made in such a way to perceive it. I’d be very grateful to any God that had a hand in it if I could believe in Him.
What about the Easter Bunny DRBG?
I don’t believe in him either. Although I’m prepared to eat chocolates and hot cross buns at Easter.
And roast turkey at Christmas.
Interestingly Teh Weekend Paywallian story on the Brittany Blob devotes a couple of paragraphs to Dad’s evidence. Snoozer Kelly chimes in too. Next act will be either the NACC or Marty and former Senator Reynolds, although you think Dave and Brittany wouldn’t be too keen to roll the dice on that one now. Mais non?
Knuckle Dragger
April 20, 2024 8:49 am
Backhand winner down the line.
The distinction I meant was that Christ wasn’t ‘an instance’ of truth ( that was the sense of example used), but that He was Truth itself.
As to the problem you present, did He really offer no means to cure suffering for all men?
Cronkite wouldn’t like her because she was too feminine.
What a terrible misrepresentation. I plan to rewatch Once Upon a Time in the West. Claudia who stars in that great movie was one of the few women who could give Charlie Bronson a run for his money in physical beauty.
But I digress, here is a cute owl:
Boambee John
April 20, 2024 10:18 am
She doesn’t want “a voice” in the context we would normally understand.
She wants something like “Da Voice” as intended by the October referendum.
It isn’t a right to be heard.
It is a veto on any issue they decide to insert themselves into.
Bruce Lehrmann defamation trial: Channel Ten has ‘zero interest’ in bringing back Lisa Wilkinson despite court victory
Daily Mail
Noooooo!!
H B Bear
April 20, 2024 2:54 pm
Reply to Top Ender
Quite so.
Any contract renewal clause will probably be addressed with the shortest possible response, along the lines of, “Yeah … nah”.
The distinction I meant was that Christ wasn’t ‘an instance’ of truth ( that was the sense of example used), but that He was Truth itself.
Any more evidence that you have elected to live in a verbal fantasy rather than engage with reality would be superfluous.
Why do you care what other people believe in BG?
I mean, as a “man ‘o science”, it has no objective or measurable effect on your existence, so expending energy on it seems … well … superfluous effort.
You’d have a heart of stone not to smile at the au courant political discourse of the Left, as the Union is picked apart at the seams:
Trump is a farty poo bum.
Literally…
I have a little project where I want to engrave “ A coffee please” on a table in 7 different languages
Can any cats help ?
Roger
April 20, 2024 9:06 am
Reply to 132andBush
Roger,
The symbol he’s used for the pointer is the “male” symbol. A simple arrow would have sufficed.
The implication being all the violence is one way.
Also the two looking at the sign are a woman and daughter.
‘‘The integrity of science depends on its capacity to provide an ever more reliable picture of how the world works. ……”
Never have truer words been spoken, Roger.
To quote the great Prof Richard Feynman, (yet again):
“I would rather have questions that cannot be answered, than answers that cannot be questioned.”
Why do you care what other people believe in BG?
Because, Sancho, I might be wrong. So I want to know what alternative hypotheses and modes of thought are around, and what kind of arguments are used to support them.
H B Bear
April 20, 2024 2:33 pm
A wicked problem.
Defend and lose, will add fuel to the $2.4m Thank You dumpster fire and expose whatever remains of the $2.4m to Reynolds’ costs and damages.
Apologise, necessarily denying Reynolds interfered with Higgins’ ‘quest for justice, no honestly’, will add even more fuel to the $2.4m Thank You dumpster fire because lying liars who lied.
I see a future where Brinny and her fat beau throw themselves on the mercy of the Frog legal system, unable to return, or be returned to Australia, or respond to legal proceedings, because fear of political victimisation.
Popcorn.
Further to Lizzie’s haunting comment last night on her trip to Westfield yesterday, Mum and I decided to go to Bondi Junction today. Mum wanted to go to Sportscraft to buy something she has no need of, and so she originally said she’d pick me up and we’d go to Sportscraft Rose Bay however I said to her…Mum, why don’t we go to the Junction? I said to her, the weather is dodgy, the parking is easy at the Junction but most importantly, it’ll be good to support the centre. Mum agreed. So she collected me and we drove to Bondi Junction. Surprisingly there were quite a few people in David Jones however I noticed that people, shoppers or staff, were subdued, very subdued. However, despite the subduedness, I made eye contact with a lot of people and we looked at each other and smiled. It was comforting. Another thing I noticed was a level of security I have ever never seen before, on each floor of David Jones. Perhaps, given the dreadful events of last Saturday, I was acutely sensitive to their presence but it was different to normal.
I’m glad I went, we need to support the centre, because people work there and they need their jobs. Afterwards Mum and I did go down to Double Bay for coffee and cheesecake.
I’m glad I went, we need to support the centre, because people work there and they need their jobs.
You’re a good person, Cassie.
I’ve noticed before, but extra evidence is always useful.
DrBeauGan
April 20, 2024 3:41 pm
Why do you care what other people believe in BG?
But do you?
Do you really?
The thoughts of someone who “just wants to engage in other belief systems to test their own hypothesis”:-
That doesn’t sound like a very sciency enquiry.
It could almost be something a bigot might say.
Outside the Coliseum a few years ago.Woman grabs us and asks if we speak English. We were a little worried but she put a tour group of 12 together with a history phd.
Handed us over to another phd to do the forum.
Jumped the queues. Terrific value
You may be right, but I anchored myself to “fantasy” long ago.
I’ve been puzzling about this since you posted it, Calli. I don’t really understand it.
I don’t feel any need for an anchor. I go where the wind blows.
And so it goes: the demorat filth proposing Trump be stripped of his security detail:
January 6 Chair Proposes Bill to Take Away Trump’s Secret Service (breitbart.com)
January 6 Chair Proposes Bill to Take Away Trump’s Secret Service (breitbart.com)
Shameless evil
great minds think alike Cohenite
But do you?
Do you really?
Yes. You seem to have trouble believing me, but it’s quite simple. I might be wrong, I often have been about all sorts of things, and I prefer not to be. So I check out my beliefs and my reasons against others.
Cassie it was good to hear your mother went to Bondi Junction with you after she was so upset. People that are getting on find it hard to deal with things that upset them. They avoid instead. I like tough old birds. Not to eat of course.
That doesn’t sound like a very sciency enquiry.
It could almost be something a bigot would say.
Anyone who anounces that Jesus Christ is not an exemplar of truth but is truth, is offering an inane piety which abuses conventional language.
My daughter once told me that men on building sites whistling at pretty girls walking past was a form of rape. No it isn’t. And deforming language in this way makes it clear that no further discussion is worth having.
I like tough old birds.
A perfect description of my mother! I have long thought that there was something in the water in this country back in 1920s, 1930s and 1940s that produced women like my mother….tough birds!
DrBeau, a serious answer. What you see as “fantasy”, the hope of eternal life with the one who created and redeemed me, is the anchor of my soul. (Hebrews 6:19). For me this is no fantasy at all, because it isn’t one in truth. It is truth.
You mentioned disappointment with Father Christmas not being real, something that clearly angered you as a child. Whereas I found Father Christmas, big, hearty and strong, in Narnia. I knew he wasn’t real here, just as fauns carrying umbrellas aren’t, but he was definitely real there.
And so, at the age of eight, I understood the concept of allegory.
I don’t need faith to “get by”. Faith isn’t like something you can turn on and off in life’s trials, but those trials might be used to pull closer into the sketchy relationship you formerly had with the Almighty.
No doubt many will see all this as hogwash and wishful thinking. They have that privilege to think so.
Meanwhile, today I have had another of life’s privileges. I have stitched with my seven year old granddaughter and also taught her French Knitting.
I had forgotten how hard it was once to sew on buttons!
The rain has continued on unabated, sometimes quite heavy. The first really decent downpours in over six months. We will have a joey-boom come Christmas as all the little ones hibernating in the pouches will start to grow. The lake is almost full, the water table replenishing, and now the setting sun is shining through a golden curtain of rain.
It really is a beautiful world.
And so, at the age of eight, I understood the concept of allegory.
Me too. But I also grasped the idea of fiction, and fictional worlds, and that the actual world in which we exist is different from the fictional worlds and confusing them can get you into big trouble.
I love the Narnia books and have since a child, and I check out every wardrobe carefully, just in case. But I’d be very surprised if I found a way into another world in one. Thrilled to bits, but very surprised.
Pascal’s wager is a perfectly reasonable hypothesis.
https://ace.mu.nu/archives/Troll.jfif
Science!
Dr BG – You believe you are right. I believe you are wrong.
You have no data to prove your case. I however can offer evidence from about 3,500 years of extensive written history, and evidence that Christian methodology works – since nations which practice it are successful. Nations that don’t aren’t, at least mostly.
Likewise the psychology outlined in the Bible fits the data: regarding humans as inherently evil works empirically rather well, for example. It explains a great deal of human behaviour.
Furthermore the tenets of Christianity are that you are asked to believe, as Jesus Christ said over and over. That is consistent throughout the Bible, from Abraham to the New Testament. It is the single and only metric you are measured upon. We do have plenty of circumstantial evidence, but you will never get bonked on the head and told. It is for you to decide. Therefore the body of knowledge is internally consistent.
You on the other hand cannot prove God doesn’t exist. You believe He doesn’t, I believe He does and I have extensive evidence. If He does exist and demands your acknowledgement you are in deep excrement.
One of the fun things that has been happening in the last couple decades with the rise of computing are the scientists who hypothesize that we live in a hologram or a computer program. It’s interesting since if either of those were to be correct you might also surmise that the writer of the software might wish to interact with the virtual beings he programmed. And therefore arrange to contact them. So as soon as they had communicable information transfer and storage it would be viable to give them a message, in for example a book.
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What you see as “fantasy”, the hope of eternal life with the one who created and redeemed me, is the anchor of my soul. (Hebrews 6:19).
I am pretty sure I haven’t got a soul except in an allegorical sense. I am sure I’ve got a body, including a brain ( I’ve seen pictures of it). I can see the merits of talking about the information processing my brain does routinely as in some sense independent of the wetware, but I don’t believe it will carry on after my brain has been eaten by worms. That’s like thinking that when you blow the candle out, the flame carries on in some other universe. Wishful thinking covers both.
Pascal’s wager is a perfectly reasonable hypothesis.
It presupposes that God, if He exists, is too dim to figure you out.
So as soon as they had communicable information transfer and storage it would be viable to give them a message, in for example a book.
Which you have to spend years decoding.
If God wants to persuade me that he exists, there are far more direct ways to do it. Unzipping the sky, peering in, pointing at me and calling out: “Beaugy repent!” Would work. As long as the event was up on YouTube next day, otherwise I’d prefer the alternative explanation of too much green tea.
So I have concluded that either God does not exist or he doesn’t care whether I believe in Him or not.
Blondie and Rapture –
The original Rap song?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHCdS7O248g
Greg Kelly shows biden’s most recent lies; incredible that this piece of shit, this pervert, this disgusting creature is protected by 90% of the media:
‘This is sickening, this is deranged, this has got to stop’: Greg Kelly on Biden’s lies (youtube.com)
Dr B – John 3:16 is very widely known. It’s simple, no decoding is required. you do have to believe it though. Which is the whole point.
The rest of the Bible is there to give the underlying principles, methodology and footnotes for why you are expected to do what John 3:16 says.
If you want to light a fire you can strike a match. You do not need to do a PhD in chemistry to understand what is in the match, why it works and the thermodynamics and electron structures of the elements that make up the match. You just have to believe that if you strike the match you will have the fire you want. If you are curious about why it works then you can study the chemistry.
I just said to you no He is not going to come and bonk you on the head. He is not going to send you an angel, nor a devil, nor even a talking donkey. That would be inconsistent with the principles outlined in the Bible.
Tucker Carlsoni, Cats: A personage purveying bizarre conspiracy hypotheses, for example, Mike Johnson is a bought and paid for indivegetable prone to getting intimate with kiddees?*
We report, you decide.
*or it’s Arkancide time.
Danger Dan Reviews:
Another day in paradise. Anthony Albanese Chris Bowen Katy Gallagher
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1882dyuJKM
I’d go with that. Amazing song. On the other hand Walk This Way by Aerosmith is from 1975 whereas Rapture is from 1981. But the rap version of Walk This Way is only from 1986. So there you go, you could argue it either way…
RUN DMC – Walk This Way ft. Aerosmith (1986)
So, you’re accusing Jesus of being inane, since he made the claim (which alludes to the name of God in Hebrew).
Which means he can’t be an exemplar of truth.
Just one of Jesus’ claims about himself which can’t be easily dismissed by those who yet regard him as a good teacher.
You can’t have it both ways.
As to all of this Religious stuff, Hollywood got it right with this film IMHO-
The Greatest Story ever Told. That’s just it – A Story.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Greatest_Story_Ever_Told
Mind you, maybe these Lads got it right –
Life of Brian –
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monty_Python%27s_Life_of_Brian
Or, maybe Dave Allen got it right with “May your God go with you” –
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66lUk_qYpm4
Anyone who thinks Tucker Carlsoni believes in UFO’s is a big fat house sized bottomaged collectivist crackpot.
And here is a bottomage that is not house sized. 🙂
incredible that this piece of shit, this pervert, this disgusting creature is protected by 90% of the media
Agree and this latest attack on Trump goes beyond banana republic level- this is full on Stalin. When the old perv was running for prez in 2019 it seemed like a sick joke. Little did we know the fix was in.
Oh, for goodness’ sake, Cats, not again! 😕
Some points….
Firstly, I am very glad that X and Facebook have both told Pretty Boy Minns and that creepy totalitarian fascist and WEF groupie, Julie Inman Grant, to get stuffed. Both Minns and Inman Grant have demanded that X and Facebook take down the footage of the Muslim stabbing the Christian bishop in the Western Sydney church. Both X and Facebook say….NYET.
Secondly, I have just heard on the news that the NSWaffen Police have charged another ‘rioter’ from the stabbing aftermath. My oh my, how efficient, yet the same NSWaffen Police have yet to charge/arrest one person from the night of 9 October 2023…nor have they charged any of the Islamic clerics for their hate speech. In fact the spruikers of Jew hatred are given a free pass.
Thirdly, it is my belief that the Maronite and Assyrian rioters on Monday night did us all a favour. Had they not turned up to riot I don’t believe the NSWaffen Police and state government would have moved so quickly to label the stabbing what it was, a terrorist incident. Instead, I believe that the Police and government would have tried to hide/smother the facts with the usual bullshit. I don’t condone the rioter’s violence towards the NSWaffen Police and particularly towards the NSW Ambulance but since 9 October 2023 I have zero respect for the NSWaffen Police…in fact I have absolute contempt for them.
I just said to you no He is not going to come and bonk you on the head. He is not going to send you an angel, nor a devil, nor even a talking donkey. That would be inconsistent with the principles outlined in the Bible.
Well He did, allegedly, send them to others. And you are arguing that if one believes in the bible as the word of God, then one is compelled to believe in the bible.
The converse of which is that if you don’t believe in the bible as the word of God, then you don’t have to believe it. Which is my position.
“Let’s look at how Four Corners, the self proclaimed “home of Australian investigative journalism” covered Afghan War whistleblower David McBride.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdYYIVoCvsM
On this occasion a fair story from FriendlyJordies.
Just one of Jesus’ claims about himself which can’t be easily dismissed by those who yet regard him as a good teacher.
You can’t have it both ways.
Yes I can. I just have to think he was a good teacher but got some things wrong.
Anyway, we’re annoying Rabz, and I can see why. This can’t go anywhere useful.
Who knew? – you can get a Breaker Morant T-shirt:
https://breakermorant.com/new/?product=t-shirt
Cats, I’m not prone to panicking, except when I’m in Detroit … 😕
Frank Sheed in ‘Theology for Beginners’ addresses ‘God has to speak to me from the sky’ and says, quite reasonably, even if He were to do that, the determined athiest would find a way to explain a personal appearance away.
Hate speech is no more than an excuse for censorship. Two sides of the same coin.
Beaugues, these things happen, Squire! 🙂
The converse of which is that if you don’t believe in the bible as the word of God, then you don’t have to believe it. Which is my position.
If God wants me to believe in Him for really bad reasons, I’ve got a cast iron excuse if I should find myself confronting St. Peter at the pearly gates.
“Sorry, Pete, but the arguments were so awful, my conscience wouldn’t let me buy them.”
You could be just a little less pompous.
Looking where for your nirvana? A communist shithole like Cuba or the humid squalor of Sri Lanka? Doesn’t seem too wise to me. It does seem to me you have a need to find something- but just can’t. Which explains what appears to be petty immature jealousy of Christians who have. Dressed up with philosophical mumbo jumbo.
Gee, really? Who’da thunk it, you blessed with a house sized [redacted]
True, little did we know in 2019 but we do now and yet the fix will be in again in November. The US is over but then again when I look at Europe, large tracts of it are over as well.
Even here in Australia, we have said no to the voice referendum but the politicians are moving ahead with it regardless. The other ominous action against us is the empowerment of the eSafety Commissioner who decides what we are allowed to see and say.
Rap by itself is crap. But it seems to work in musical tracks like Rapture and Walk This Way. Here’s another from the virtual guys of Gorillaz (ie. the ridiculously talented Mr Damon Albarn):
Gorillaz – Feel Good Inc. (2005)
Rabz
April 20, 2024 6:32 pm
Cats, I’m not prone to panicking, except when I’m in Detroit … https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/15.0.3/svg/1f615.svg
No panic in Detroit with these lads –
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1g3e3cgktZU&list=PLrh5dAB8zl_4t2wTdDgu-eW1wqNKN-oxX
Motown
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Frank Sheed in ‘Theology for Beginners’ addresses ‘God has to speak to me from the sky’ and says, quite reasonably, even if He were to do that, the determined athiest would find a way to explain a personal appearance away.
I’d need to be sure it was really God and not, for example, a mischievous alien with great powers, but He could persuade me if He wanted to. I’m not so determined I couldn’t be sold on His existence, just a sceptic about the conventional wisdom.
If I could ask him a few questions, like which of the thousands of sects has it right, that would be useful. If He said ‘the catholics’, I’d become a catholic. If he said ‘the evangelicals’ I’d have to think about it.
Look, just sod off and keep your head low. You got lucky that your potential suitor is an ill disciplined git who thinks more with his little head than his big one and had a judge willing channel vibes…
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13330551/Brittany-Higgins-breaks-silence-blistering-statement-judge-Bruce-Lehrmann-raped-Parliament-House.html
The article is full of self serving twaddle if you can stand it. Psyops prep for the tussle with Reynolds?
Looking where for your nirvana? A communist shithole like Cuba or the humid squalor of Sri Lanka?
No, I went to those places for quite different reasons. In the case of Cuba it was the cigars. And curiosity. In the case of Sri Lanka, just curiosity. I wanted to know if I could survi
Re God and religious belief, the late Greg Bear wrote a couple of novels where this featured.
Darwin’s Children
Darwin’s Radio
Interesting arguments made.
Looking where for your nirvana? A communist shithole like Cuba or the humid squalor of Sri Lanka?
No, I went to those places for quite different reasons. In the case of Cuba it was the cigars. And curiosity. In the case of Sri Lanka, just curiosity. I wanted to know if I could survive if I just turned up to see what it was like.
Your idea that I went for religious reasons is dotty. I worked out long ago that the thing to do with my brief time on this planet was to have as much fun as possible. These trips, and many others were in pursuit of an interesting and hence fun experience.
Seeing as how we’ve a meeting of the Big ‘Eads here tonight, can someone tell me the difference between a Cult and a Religion?
Is Christianity a cult or a religion?
Is Islam a cult or a religion?
The only philosophical difference I can see is that someone can leave Christianity, but they can’t leave Islam.
can someone tell me the difference between a Cult and a Religion?
It’s the numbers. They all start as cults, but when there are enough to beat you up when you laugh at them, it’s a religion.
“I worked out long ago that the thing to do with my brief time on this planet was to have as much fun as possible. These trips, and many others were in pursuit of an interesting and hence fun experience.”
Always look on the bright side of Life –
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJUhlRoBL8M
And the Pursuit of Happiness
Can’t pass that up.
10cc – Dreadlock Holiday (1978)
Maria got all our hearts a flutter.
It’s still a great song, Cats:
Stand Down Maggie!
Sri Lanka was a communist shithole too. Going to see what communist shitholes are like was definitely not an endorsement of them. Quite the opposite.
But in both countries, the ordinary people were lovely.
In Cuba, outwitting government bureaucrats was the national sport. One bloke I met ran a taxi service. For this he needed new cars. The Cuban government has banned the importing of new cars, but permits the importing of spare parts of cars. So he went to Europe, bought some cars, dismantled them, shipped them to Cuba as spare parts, and reassembled them when they arrived.
It’s hard to believe bureaucrats can be that stupid, but they are. They follow the rules, no matter how stupid. Once you know the rules, they’re toast.
Pop Culture, the Twentieth Century and some of the greatest purveyors of it. 🙂
Another ALPBC archives triumph – courtesy of Clone Down.
Israel’s strategic restraint: A calculated message to Iran
Iranians Worried By ‘War Against Women’ More Than Israel Conflict
The world’s economic myths are hitting limits
Interest payments on the national debt are exploding
Speaker Johnson’s Ignominious Betrayal
They’re making it up as they go along. Nothing whatever to do with actual justice, which is what the court system was set up for.
Trump trial: Prosecutors withhold witness lineup from former president’s team
Biden administration finalizes controversial Title IX rule to ‘redefine’ sex
I’ve put this one up not long ago but it fits Dr B’s outlook pretty well, so hey! Mean that in a nice way. I also like the song and the video.
OK Go – Do What You Want (2006)