Open Thread – Weekend 21 April 2024


The Old Stage Coach, Eastman Johnson, 1871

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KevinM
KevinM
April 20, 2024 12:36 am

Good moaning folks.

MatrixTransform
April 20, 2024 12:37 am
Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
April 20, 2024 12:42 am

No 3. Still on podium.

Wow quiet in here.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
April 20, 2024 12:43 am

The rebuild on this Blackhawk is solid. A magnicent looking machine. The price tag would have been massive.

HDSparks:

MY BLACKHAWK IS DONE! Time to Fly it Home

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3P3FWkBFU

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
April 20, 2024 12:46 am

…. magnificent

KevinM
KevinM
April 20, 2024 1:16 am

Looking at the date of the new OT, shouldn’t it be 20th?
Not that it matters.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
April 20, 2024 1:27 am

KevinM
April 20, 2024 1:16 am

Looking at the date of the new OT, shouldn’t it be 20th?
Not that it matters.

It is now.

KevinM
KevinM
April 20, 2024 1:38 am

Steve trickler
April 20, 2024 1:27 am

Looking at the date of the new OT, shouldn’t it be 20th?

It is now.

Not, what I see.
Not being pedantic.

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
April 20, 2024 2:46 am

That is a very old Stage Coach. No horses and no wheels.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
April 20, 2024 2:55 am

KevinM
 April 20, 2024 1:38 am

Steve trickler
April 20, 2024 1:27 am
Looking at the date of the new OT, shouldn’t it be 20th?It is now.
Not, what I see.
Not being pedantic.

You are correct. I wasn’t looking at the side bar.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
April 20, 2024 2:59 am

Johnny Rotten
 April 20, 2024 2:46 am

That is a very old Stage Coach. No horses and no wheels.

Dover posts stunning works.

Tom
Tom
April 20, 2024 4:00 am
Tom
Tom
April 20, 2024 4:01 am
Tom
Tom
April 20, 2024 4:01 am

Mark Knight classic.

Tom
Tom
April 20, 2024 4:02 am
Tom
Tom
April 20, 2024 4:03 am
Tom
Tom
April 20, 2024 4:04 am
Tom
Tom
April 20, 2024 4:05 am
Tom
Tom
April 20, 2024 4:06 am
Tom
Tom
April 20, 2024 4:07 am
Tom
Tom
April 20, 2024 4:07 am
Tom
Tom
April 20, 2024 4:08 am
Steve trickler
Steve trickler
April 20, 2024 4:13 am

Always good to see Sam in these clips. He was retired and Jack Stand Jimmy moved in next door. Jack invited him to the shop. Cleetus and crew reinvigorated his life.
Now he is legend with the blokes. He worked on F4’s.
He knows his stuff.

—-

Cleetus:

Our NEW GMC and Mullet Both DESTROYED Their Records!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGVqKHoUv9o

132andBush
132andBush
April 20, 2024 6:21 am

David Pope

What a rolled gold ar$ehole.

Harlequin Decline
April 20, 2024 6:50 am

When in Rome a few days ago we went to visit the Borghese museum to see Bernini’s Appollo and Daphne statue and various Caravaggio paintings.

It was booked out more than a month in advance up until June but I managed to get some cut the line tickets for the 17th online , possibly due to cancellation.

When we arrived I thought it strange that there was no one from the booking company for the check-in as specified online. On closer inspection it turned out that the tickets were for 17th May not April.  
Consoling myself with the thought that some of the great works of art lose something in the original and with the knowledge of the full refund ticket conditions we purchased some fridge magnets instead. More or less the same thing judging by the mob in the museum shop. 

Following the trauma of the Vatican museum’s tour hordes we pressed ahead taking a tour of the Colosseum, albeit with some trepidation. During the tour a strange feeling came over me.   After some reflection I diagnosed that I was actually enjoying myself on the tour rather than attempting self harm as contemplated on the previous one, it was excellent. 

We were told there were wine bars and brothels active at the Colosseum during games. The idea being if the blood,guts, gore and executions in the arena were getting a bit jejune you could spice up your day out by getting pissed on cheap rotgut and indulge in a spot of whoring without leaving the venue and then get back to your seat when the gruesomeness picked up a bit. Roman civilisation at it’s finest.

Maybe the AFL should consider, or would it be more suited to rugby?

feelthebern
feelthebern
April 20, 2024 7:05 am

Aaron Berg
@aaronbergcomedy

From the river to the sea, Palestine can suck my D.
12:28 AM · Apr 20, 2024

rosie
rosie
April 20, 2024 7:08 am

Well done HD.
I’ve never gotten to the Borghese museum.

feelthebern
feelthebern
April 20, 2024 7:23 am

Christopher C. Cuomo
@ChrisCuomo

Stephen A. Smith came on the show tonight to discuss what he thinks the best way to beat Trump is – and he’s pretty disgusted by how it’s going.

https://x.com/ChrisCuomo/status/1781124528615129536

Stephen A gets more views on ESPN than any other analyst.
I wonder how long before ABC & the rest of the Disney family have a fit over comments like this.

calli
calli
April 20, 2024 7:23 am

From The Sultan’s article:

Like a magical world, social media is a place where people can create their reality and then use intimidation and peer pressure to enforce it on others.

And it’s addictive – try walking away, even for a short period. I’m convinced too that bullying and control on platforms is also addictive, eating away at the person’s grip on reality.

All the points he makes are worthwhile. Thanks for linking, miltonf.

will
will
April 20, 2024 7:27 am

Dilbert

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calli
calli
April 20, 2024 7:30 am

Also, thanks for the Rome travellers’ tales, Harlequin. I’m there in early June, which will be even worse.

Bought some of those tickets to the Vatican at eyewatering prices…hmmm. Will report back unless I’m flattened. So much for Covid Fear in Italy.

On that subject…

Humour
Top Ender
Top Ender
April 20, 2024 7:32 am

Harlequin Decline, have been researching the Colosseum a bit. Here’s a typical daily program:

Morning: procession, jugglers, acrobats, musicians, myth re-enactment (with scenery)

Lunch: criminal executions (elite usually left for a meal)

Afternoon: gladiators 

Top Ender
Top Ender
April 20, 2024 7:33 am

Notes:
?
program was not presented every day, but maybe two-three times a week
constant battle to keep supply of animals up, and also supply of gladiators
programs varied over the life of the Empire 

Black Ball
Black Ball
April 20, 2024 7:39 am

JJ Sefton at Ace Of Spades in his morning report:

In all seriousness, the world has been destabilized, not only in the Middle East, but almost everywhere on the map as a result of the head-up-the-ass Ivy League/Kennedy School/Johns Hopkins-fueled delusions of the Foggy Bottom elites whose worldview is completely out of phase with reality and just plain old Jew-hatred that’s also part and parcel of that worldview. As I implied, if elections indeed have consequences, take a good look around and consider the consequences of stolen elections.

Entirely correct yet monty loves the shit. His mob.

Pogria
Pogria
April 20, 2024 7:53 am
Bruce
Bruce
April 20, 2024 7:54 am

That painting needs an update with a burned-out Tesla as the centre-piece.

rosie
rosie
April 20, 2024 8:08 am

I never prebooked Vatican. Didn’t occur to me. But then I was a winter visitor.
It’s €20 for a standard ticket, €25 for skip the line.
Pretty reasonable.

calli
calli
April 20, 2024 8:17 am

Winter looks like the time to go if you don’t like crowds. We’re in Rome awaiting a cruise and passing the time looking at the sights again. I plan to be ripped off again for gelato outside the Pantheon. Good times.

Last time, in Autumn, it was full but still enjoyable. The first time I visited was just after 9/11. The place was empty.

We finish up in Venice. If it’s raining it will be 9th Circle Dantean.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
April 20, 2024 8:28 am

Like a magical world, social media is a place where people can create their reality and then use intimidation and peer pressure to enforce it on others.

And it’s addictive – try walking away, even for a short period. I’m convinced too that bullying and control on platforms is also addictive, eating away at the person’s grip on reality.

I hate to break it to you Calli, but a religion is also a communal fake reality that people can and do live in. Most human beans seem to need a fantasy world to live in. They can’t bear too much reality.

Indolent
Indolent
April 20, 2024 8:40 am

@TheChiefNerd

Tucker Carlson on Members of Congress Being Controlled by the Intel Agencies

“They’re worried about someone putting kiddie p*rn on their computer. Members of Congress are terrified of the intel agencies. I’m not guessing at that. They’ve told me that, including people on the intel committee, including people who run the intel committee. The people whose job it is to oversee and keep in line, these enormous secretive agencies whose budgets we can’t even know, their black budgets…They’re afraid of the agencies.”

Indolent
Indolent
April 20, 2024 8:41 am

@bennyjohnson

Letitia James tried to force Trump to pay a $454 million bond.

An appeals court said that was LUDICROUS and lowered the amount to $175 million.

Trump posted the $175 million bond.

Now Letitia is asking the judge to REJECT it.

This woman’s vengeance to take down Trump and seize his assets is INSANE.

m0nty
m0nty
April 20, 2024 8:42 am

What I’m hearing from credible sources is that Donald Trump is actually farting in the courtroom… I’m hearing it from actual credible people that as he’s kind of falling asleep, he’s actually passing gas and that his lawyers are really struggling with the smell.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
April 20, 2024 8:45 am

Beat gelato? Mandarin in Barcelona, raspberry in Grenada, lime in Huskisson. Doesn’t matter the price these were the best by kilometres. Same as miles but the numbers are more.

Indolent
Indolent
April 20, 2024 8:46 am

@EmeraldRobinson

Some people think that replacing Kevin McCarthy with @SpeakerJohnson

was a mistake but they miss the obvious benefit: we all see how the GOP has merged with the Democrats into one party by how quickly Johnson has been totally compromised.

calli
calli
April 20, 2024 8:48 am

I’m tempted to Puddleglum at you, DrBeau, but I’m feeling a bit more Gamgee-ish this morning.

In western lands beneath the Sun

the flowers may rise in Spring,

the trees may bud, the waters run,

the merry finches sing.

Or there maybe ’tis cloudless night

and swaying beeches bear

the Elven-stars as jewels white

amid their branching hair.

Though here at journey’s end I lie

in darkness buried deep,

beyond all towers strong and high,

beyond all mountains steep,

above all shadows rides the Sun

and Stars for ever dwell:

I will not say the Day is done,

nor bid the Stars farewell.

You may be right, but I anchored myself to “fantasy” long ago.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
April 20, 2024 8:49 am

he’s kind of falling asleep, he’s actually passing gas

Let me know when he shits himself in public like Nadler, or falls over on stage, falls up stairs or falls off a bicycle or shakes hands with invisible people or walks off in wrong directions or sniffs childrens’ hair or has to have a giant Easter Bunny as a minder.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
April 20, 2024 8:56 am

No proof of emissions impact on Burrup rock art, report finds
By paul garvey

Plans to expand and extend some of the nation’s largest export projects near the world’s largest collection of rock art have received a major boost, after a report prepared for federal Environment Minister Tanya Plibersek found no conclusive proof that industrial emissions are harming the ancient petroglyphs.
The long-awaited independent report into the impact of ­industrial activity on Western Australia’s Burrup Peninsula has stopped well short of calling for a halt on the new projects being ­developed in the area.
The findings come as a blow to dozens of activists, environmentalists and campaigners – including former Labor leader Kim Beazley and a host of former Labor premiers and ministers – who have been pushing Ms Plibersek to block Woodside’s plans for LNG operations in the area.
However, Woodside Energy – which is looking to double output from its Pluto LNG plant and extend the life of its North West Shelf LNG facility out to 2070 – and fertiliser developer Perdaman will be affected if Ms Plibersek opts to adopt the independent report recommendations.

The consultant appointed by the federal government to investigate the situation on the Burrup, Alison Stone, recommends Ms Plibersek order Perdaman to abandon its plans for a causeway across the site of the $6bn urea plant it is currently building and to redesign a laydown area being used to store equipment and material for the plant’s construction.
Ms Stone also recommended Woodside be barred from disturbing any of the cultural heritage sites in its existing leased areas, despite the company having previously secured the authority to do so under WA’s controversial Section 18 mechanism.

Mining giant Rio Tinto previously used a Section 18 authority to legally detonate the Juukan Gorge rock shelters in the Pilbara. Woodside, however, had already flagged that it did not intend to disturb any of the Section 18 heritage sites as part of its plans.

The report also said there was sufficient evidence to support that significant Aboriginal areas were under threat of injury or desecration, identifying several lots of unallocated crown land zoned for future industrial use where ­future industrial development should be barred.
The consultant’s findings about the impact of emissions on rock art is likely to be the most significant to stem from the investigation. The rock art of the region is at the core of the federal government’s ongoing efforts to secure a World Heritage listing for the area, and opponents of the heavy industry in the region had long argued emissions were accelerating the erosion and degradation of the estimated one million carvings across the peninsula.
According to a copy of Ms Stone’s report, obtained by The Weekend Australian, the consultant found that there was “not sufficient evidence to support the claim the specified area is under threat from industrial emissions and chemical discharge”.
She also said that the research on the impact of emissions on the art remained “contested and inconclusive”.

Just last month, Mr Beazley joined other Labor veterans including former WA premiers Carmen Lawrence and Peter Dowding and former federal Labor ministers Barry Jones and Melissa Parke in signing a letter to Ms Plibersek urging her to block Woodside’s plans for the North West Shelf LNG plant, also known as the Karratha Gas Plant.
The Australian Conservation Foundation has also recently released research claiming that the Karratha Gas Plant extension plan will generate six billion tonnes of carbon dioxide and be the largest new fossil fuel project in the southern hemisphere.
Stakeholders on Friday were scrambling to digest the report’s findings.
A spokeswoman for Woodside said the company would review the report in the coming days.

NOW, can we get on with the fertilizer plant?

Indolent
Indolent
April 20, 2024 8:59 am

I would have thought that myocarditis all by itself would be quite enough to force withdrawal of a drug, particularly one that quite obviously doesn’t even work.
National Academies badly misleads America about the safety of the COVID vaccine

Roger
Roger
April 20, 2024 9:01 am

‘Looking back, it seems a bit unjust that the country that followed its pre-pandemic plan was the country accused of conducting an experiment on its population. Perhaps Sweden instead should be considered the control group, while the rest of the world underwent an experiment.’

Did Sweden’s controversial COVID strategy pay off?

Indolent
Indolent
April 20, 2024 9:03 am
BobtheBoozer
BobtheBoozer
April 20, 2024 9:04 am

A new force is emerging in our politics. It’s not the “far-Right populism” that so many seem to fear. Quite the opposite. And the first step to getting to grips with it is to describe it honestly. 

This has been obvious for 5 years. Have our political commentators been asleep for that long?

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m0nty
m0nty
April 20, 2024 9:08 am

I see the Russian bots have really turned on Mike Johnson now that he is making moves to fund Ukraine.

Roger
Roger
April 20, 2024 9:09 am

NOW, can we get on with the fertilizer plant?

“Sure…you can have your fertiliser plant.

We’ll take Lake Eyre.”

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
April 20, 2024 9:11 am

DRBG while I agree somewhat with your sentiment about religion, the same applies with those of no faith. I think its a coping mechanism with the unknown. My wife sees the best in anyone hence we’re still married. My late FiL was raised by a Grandmaster in the Masons. He thought it a bit silly and nothing to do with it. His mother died when he was 10 and lost whatever faith he had yet in the 80’s had an audience with JPII as part of a world conference in Rome. He was most taken with him and understood how people could follow his teachings. I have no problem with religion as a guide to life. Inflicting beliefs upon others I do have a problem with. This covers islam to leftists and anything in-between.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
April 20, 2024 9:14 am

ZK2A looks like we’ve had the BS and now its being turned into fertiliser.

Roger
Roger
April 20, 2024 9:15 am

Michelle Grattan at The Conversation suggesting – ever so carefully – that multiculturalism in Australia has failed.

Her solution is to try again, but this time harder.

Reading between the lines, she appears to be advocating for a Voice for ethnic communities.

Fail.

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Indolent
Indolent
April 20, 2024 9:22 am

The full Joe Rogan interview with Tucker. Over three hours long.

Joe Rogan Experience #2138 – Tucker Carlson

Indolent
Indolent
April 20, 2024 9:24 am
DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
April 20, 2024 9:26 am

I will not say the Day is done,

nor bid the Stars farewell.

You may be right, but I anchored myself to “fantasy” long ago.

I’m also inclined to believe that the world will go on much the same when I’ve left it, even though I shall be in no position to verify the belief.

If Jesus had confined himself to saying that you will lead a happier life if you treat others with kindness, an insight Gautama had arrived at four or five centuries earlier, I’d be a Christian. But He added a great deal of unbelievable nonsense too, not to mention threatening us with eternal life.
The seventy-two virgins of Islam are also a frightful prospect. How would a bloke feel about them after a few thousand centuries?

These bribes are just too silly for me to take the whole thing seriously.

You fooled me once with Father Christmas, you’re not doing it twice.

Roger
Roger
April 20, 2024 9:27 am

I hate to break it to you Calli, but a religion is also a communal fake reality that people can and do live in.

‘Religion’ is a sociological term and too general as a category to be of much use in discussions re ontology or theology (or anti-theology).

It’s like saying “I don’t like fruit.”

Which fruit don’t you like and why?

Apples aren’t oranges.

And Islam isn’t Christianity.

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Zippster
Zippster
April 20, 2024 9:27 am

Man Ignites Himself at Trump Trial: Shocking NYC Courthouse Scene

Pogria
Pogria
April 20, 2024 9:30 am

Hey muntsac,
here’s an anti-Trump activity you should indulge in. I reckon most here at the Cat would endorse it if you gave it a “burn”.

https://redstate.com/sister-toldjah/2024/04/19/watch-cnn-reporters-play-by-play-of-man-on-fire-incident-at-trump-trial-courthouse-has-people-talking-n2173037

Zippster
Zippster
April 20, 2024 9:32 am

The man who lit himself on fire outside of Trump’s trial in NYC has been identified as Max Azzarello.

“My name is Max Azzarello, and I am an investigative researcher who has set himself on fire outside of the Trump trial in Manhattan,” his manifesto read.

“This extreme act of protest is to draw attention to an urgent and important discovery: We are victims of a totalitarian con, and our own government (along with many of their allies) is about to hit us with an apocalyptic fascist world coup.”

“We are victims of a totalitarian con, and our own government (along with many of their allies) is about to hit us with an apocalyptic fascist world coup.”

“These claims sound like fantastical conspiracy theory, but they are not. They are proof of conspiracy. If you investigate this mountain of research, you will prove them too. If you learn a great deal about Ponzi schemes, you will discover that our life is a lie.”

“If you follow this story and the links below, you will discover the rotten truth of ‘post-truth America’. You will learn the scariest and stupidest story in world history. And you will realize that we are all in a desperate state of emergency that requires your action.”

“To my friends and family, witnesses and first responders, I deeply apologize for inflicting this pain upon you. But I assure you it is a drop in the bucket compared to what our government intends to inflict.”

“Because these words are true, this is an act of revolution.”

Roger
Roger
April 20, 2024 9:40 am

‘The integrity of science depends on its capacity to provide an ever more reliable picture of how the world works. Over the past decade or so, serious threats to this integrity have come to light. The expectation that science is inherently self-correcting, and that it moves cumulatively and progressively away from false beliefs and toward truth, has been challenged in numerous fields—including cancer research, neuroscience, hydrology, cosmology, and economics—as observers discover that many published findings are of poor quality, subject to systemic biases, or irreproducible.’ 

How Climate Scenarios Lost Touch With Reality

Miltonf
Miltonf
April 20, 2024 9:45 am

Just last month, Mr Beazley joined other Labor veterans including former WA premiers Carmen Lawrence and Peter Dowding and former federal Labor ministers Barry Jones and Melissa Parke

Greasy, despicable toxic parasites. Boy they really hate the working classes. Montypox’s mates. Dowding eh- haven’t heard that name for many years. Lawyer. Of course.

cohenite
April 20, 2024 9:56 am

m0nty
 April 20, 2024 8:42 am

What I’m hearing from credible sources is that Donald Trump is actually farting in the courtroom… I’m hearing it from actual credible people that as he’s kind of falling asleep, he’s actually passing gas and that his lawyers are really struggling with the smell.

Dickless linking to typical leftie bullshit. Biden wears a nappy and regularly shits in it so they spread lies about Trump farting. The usual projection.

In other news this was the best of Tom’s toons:

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This trial is classic 3rd world process.

Roger
Roger
April 20, 2024 10:01 am

Boy they really hate the working classes.

Beazley Sr. (son of a storeman and packer) made the famous observation (at an ALP federal conference around 1970, iirc) that the Labor Party was being taken over by “perverts” and “the dregs of the middle class.”

He must be turning in his grave.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
April 20, 2024 10:01 am

Finally Joe Rogan interviews Tucker Carlson. Only listened to first 40 minutes so far. All about their thoughts on UFOs.

Miltonf
Miltonf
April 20, 2024 10:08 am

As Santamaria wrote- this party of schoolteachers and left-wing lawyers.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
April 20, 2024 10:11 am

The man who lit himself on fire outside of Trump’s trial in NYC has been identified as Max Azzarello.

A far lefty with severe TDS.

Man Who Self-Immolated Near Trump Trial Was Anti-Fascist, Warned Of “World Coup” And Wanted To Start “F*cking Revolution” (20 Apr)

Miltonf
Miltonf
April 20, 2024 10:11 am

How the US has fallen- Stalinist show trials now

Boambee John
Boambee John
April 20, 2024 10:18 am

Michelle Grattan wants a “voice for ethnic communities”? Considering how many specifically “ethnic” branches the political parties already have, there are already many voices for ethnic communities.

What she really means is that there should ONLY be voices for ethnic communities. None for “privileged” non-ethnic (surely everyone has an ethnicity?) communities.

BobtheBoozer
BobtheBoozer
April 20, 2024 10:18 am
Miltonf
Miltonf
April 20, 2024 10:19 am

Grattan, always part of the problem, still hanging around like a bad smell.

MatrixTransform
April 20, 2024 10:20 am

** chuckles
** my own thesis written much better than I could do it

Do you know why the archetypal batshit crazy women of the Democratic Party adore “Joe Biden?”

I’ll tell you: because he represents perfectly and exactly the “patriarchy” they revile in his floridly comic senescence. “Joe Biden” is the patriarchy disabled, feeble, feckless, impotent, and reduced to inanity.

He would be pitiful if the patriarchy itself were not so contemptible.

This is exactly how the batshit crazy women want it to look.

James Kunstler

Roger
Roger
April 20, 2024 10:24 am

As Santamaria wrote- this party of schoolteachers and left-wing lawyers.

And failed economists?

Notable that the two key figures in this government – Albanese & Bowen – both graduated from the University of Sydney (a decade or so apart), each with a degree in Economics.

But neither practiced in that profession…they both entered politics almost immediately upon graduation – Albanese as a staffer for Tom Uren and Bowen as a local government councillor in Fairfield.

Miltonf
Miltonf
April 20, 2024 10:29 am

I know Sydney Uni Economics had Economics I or Economics I (P) if you were a leftie. Warren Hogan vs Red Ted Wheelwright I suspect.

H B Bear
H B Bear
April 20, 2024 10:44 am

Tom at 4:03 am – Christian Adams.

One for anyone who wants 4 year fixed terms. Didn’t Granpa Howard say they would be a good idea? Wouldn’t surprise me -add it to the list.

Titus Groates
Titus Groates
April 20, 2024 10:46 am

Some sad news from north of the border.

Former Australian Test opener Joe Burns has been released from the Queensland squad, with the Bulls unveiling eight newly contracted players ahead of the 2024/25 season.

https://www.foxsports.com.au/cricket/former-australian-test-opener-joe-burns-released-from-queensland-bulls-squad/news-story/d4ff1f17d73c74134a86c5165d61e365

And I’m sure a career as national coach of the women’s cricket team of Tunisia beckons for Joe.

bons
bons
April 20, 2024 10:54 am

I’ll swap with Joe.

Tunisian women are the most gorgeous creatures on the planet.

MatrixTransform
April 20, 2024 11:04 am

dover,

the spam-in-eater ate my post earlier.

it was rather harmless and funny

suspect it was junked due to the URL

any chance you can release it?

local oaf
April 20, 2024 11:04 am

Michelle Grattan wants a “voice for ethnic communities”? Considering how many specifically “ethnic” branches the political parties already have, there are already many voices for ethnic communities.

Didn’t Abbott taunt Labor with “aren’t there any Australians in the Labor Party?”

Black Ball
Black Ball
April 20, 2024 11:24 am

So what have these taxes actually done for Victoria? Hun:

A sneaky state tax on land used for high voltage power lines has soared to a record $257 million, adding more pain to ballooning family and business bills.

The annual “easement tax”, which is passed straight through to consumers, has risen by almost $10m since the previous year.

On average it now adds more than $70 to each Victorian property’s bills, but large users such as manufacturers — already grappling with soaring gas and power prices — pay the largest share.

The tax was originally established to fund a subsidy for the Alcoa aluminium smelter in 2004, and is pegged to land prices.

The total tax grab will soar even higher once more transmission lines are built to connect new solar and wind energy generation to the grid, including hundreds of kilometres of high voltage lines planned for northern and western Victoria.

Australian Industry Group director of climate change and energy, Tennant Reed, said the easement land tax was “a bit more ridiculous and out of date every year”.

“If anybody proposed today a tax on electricity based on the value of land, they would be laughed out of the pub,” he said.

“We have an increase in transmission investment in front of us to better connect states and connect up new renewable zones, and there’s enough angst about the costs of that without the total costs of transmission to consumers being boosted by a very random tax that actually has nothing to do with electricity anymore.”

Mr Reed said the revenue raising would be less frustrating if money was used to help consumers by offsetting costs of new transmission investments or helping households implement energy upgrades.

Opposition energy spokesman David Davis said the “nasty electricity tax” was jacking up bills during a cost-of-living crisis because “whopping increases are passed through to households in full”.

He said Victorian households were being forced to cough up for Labor mismanaging the state’s finances amid soaring debt and it was “no wonder some many families are struggling”.

A Victorian Government spokesperson said the revenue from land tax on transmission easements “is used to fund government programs that benefit Victorians including the energy system.”

“Victoria has among the lowest wholesale electricity prices in the National Electricity Market, and our wholesale prices are much lower than NSW and Queensland.”

“The Government will continue to balance minimising the tax burden on families and businesses while delivering vital services such as schools and hospitals.”

The safest hands of the Toppest Men. What could go wrong?

will
will
April 20, 2024 11:30 am

DrBeauGan

 April 20, 2024 9:26 am

If Jesus had confined himself to saying that you will lead a happier life if you treat others with kindness, an insight Gautama had arrived at four or five centuries earlier, I’d be a Christian. But He added a great deal of unbelievable nonsense

a typical one dimensional rationalist viewpoint.

Heaven is union with God by accepting Jesus as your saviour. This will give you the emotional strength to overcome anxiety and other negative emotions.

Hell is rejecting JC, and being subject to the normal negative emotions of humanity

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
April 20, 2024 11:33 am

Is it ok to laugh whe your wife has a barrow full of rocks which is to heavy for her instead of putting it down hangs on and tips herself and the rocks into the garden. If its not, too late.

Black Ball
Black Ball
April 20, 2024 11:34 am

Monty getting his news fix
About as plausible as the tweet he referenced earlier today.

cohenite
April 20, 2024 11:39 am

Hell is rejecting JC, and being subject to the normal negative emotions of humanity

Rejecting JC? Head prefect has to be taken with an open mind: on economics he’s pretty good; anything else it’s blather and cognitive conniptions.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
April 20, 2024 11:39 am

If Jesus had confined himself to saying that you will lead a happier life if you treat others with kindness, an insight Gautama had arrived at four or five centuries earlier, I’d be a Christian. 

Here you go Dr B…

Christianity Is Simply More Fun (American Spectator, 18 Apr)

😀

cohenite
April 20, 2024 11:52 am

Good overview on the protesting Google fuktards who got fired. Mummy and daddy will be getting visits very soon:

Google Employees Arrested and Fired After ‘Sit-In’ Demanding Company Drop Contract With Israel (legalinsurrection.com)

Black Ball
Black Ball
April 20, 2024 11:53 am

Talk about chocolate to boiled dogturds.
Watched the longest Bluey episode, which is magnificent by the way. Tugs the heartstrings, makes you laugh despite your age.
Followed by something called Sally And Possum. 2 presenters, old mate dressed as a possum, albeit with jeans and shirt. Communicating with sign language which the average viewer would know fark all, particularly kiddies. Possum bloke sounded suspiciously like a kid himself.
Avoid like the plague for one’s own sanity.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
April 20, 2024 12:04 pm

What about the Easter Bunny DRBG?

calli
calli
April 20, 2024 12:11 pm

More good Netflix viewing:

Luther – BEEB but okay, lots of action and gore plus an interesting though unlikely plot. Andy Serkis (Gollum) being deliciously evil. Movie.

Safe – more crime with a twist. Not bad at all. Eight part series.

Both explore shame and guilt and the effort to cover it up at all costs. Christie would call them “nice people” from the village, and imagine what respectable people are capable of.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
April 20, 2024 12:11 pm

Whats the name of that POS govt minister from WA. Real slimy prick, not that you could tell the difference from the rest. Used to carry round $50k in cash in his briefcase so his missus couldn’t get her hands on it when they were divorcing. I almost brought a property off him in Freo. Slum lord. One wall was missing in the back. No discount in the rent though.

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GreyRanga
GreyRanga
April 20, 2024 12:18 pm

calli the things scum do are fairly predictable and not really surprising. The things I’ve witnessed so called nice people do makes my curl. I’ve come to the conclusion the crims are a better class of people than the left.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
April 20, 2024 12:40 pm

The Toodyay businessman, who offended the mythical “Rainbow Serpent”, by building some earthworks on his property, has had his hearing adjourned by another three weeks…..Reconciliation? How do you spell that?

Muddy
Muddy
April 20, 2024 1:03 pm

Apopalogies [sic] if the following has already been featured, but I enjoyed the imagery. Well, ‘enjoyed’ may not be the correct descriptive, but … you know:

“Whatever they may say about that president (former POTUS Trump) when they want to look cool to their electorate … when they actually to make nice to the U.S. president, it is like watching a tribe of baboons offering acts of simian homage to the leader,” former British Prime Minister Boris Johnson said last week during his own trek to the United States. “However baboons do that, which I don’t propose to describe.”

Hmmm, I don’t want to give any hints to our own stains-from-the-dropping-of-a-slug, but … I suppose they’re way ahead of me already on that front? (Maybe not front, but … you know). Johnson was broadly describing leaders of the EU.

2dogs
2dogs
April 20, 2024 1:28 pm

To the classical theist, God isn’t the supreme example of truth, goodness and beauty, He just is truth, goodness, and beauty.

When the Buddha was presented with the suffering man, he sought to make suffering tolerable everywhere.

When Christ was presented with the suffering man, he didn’t do anything for all sufferers – He cured only that one man presented to Him.

So, if that wasn’t about being an example, what was that about? Because otherwise, it sure seems like an irresponsible way for a deity to deal with that challenge.

JC
JC
April 20, 2024 1:58 pm

bons

April 20, 2024 10:54 am

I’ll swap with Joe.

Tunisian women are the most gorgeous creatures on the planet.

Claudia Cardinale, half Tunisian and half Italian comes to mind. She couldn’t act, but boy was gorgeous looking. The only acting she could do was smile.

Cronkite wouldn’t like her because she was too feminine.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
April 20, 2024 2:20 pm

What about the Easter Bunny DRBG?

I don’t believe in him either. Although I’m prepared to eat chocolates and hot cross buns at Easter.

I’m actually a happy, sunny person and not at all plagued by anxiety, despite not believing in the divinity of JC, either of them.

Yes, Christians are good people to be around, and I would be delighted to see more of them, at least the sincere ones. I think you’ve got some great principles from a moral genius, even if you are fooling yourselves about some things. And if, like Will, you can only sustain yourselves in bad times by buying the hokum, well, best of luck with the method. It doesn’t work for me. I know deep down I’m kidding myself and that stops it working. But if you can make it work, good luck.

Like Calli, I can see great beauty in the world. I’m very fortunate that I’m made in such a way to perceive it. I’d be very grateful to any God that had a hand in it if I could believe in Him.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
April 20, 2024 2:23 pm

What about the Easter Bunny DRBG?
I don’t believe in him either. Although I’m prepared to eat chocolates and hot cross buns at Easter.

And roast turkey at Christmas.

H B Bear
H B Bear
April 20, 2024 2:33 pm

Interestingly Teh Weekend Paywallian story on the Brittany Blob devotes a couple of paragraphs to Dad’s evidence. Snoozer Kelly chimes in too. Next act will be either the NACC or Marty and former Senator Reynolds, although you think Dave and Brittany wouldn’t be too keen to roll the dice on that one now. Mais non?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
April 20, 2024 2:36 pm

Knuckle Dragger
 April 20, 2024 8:49 am

he’s kind of falling asleep, he’s actually passing gas

….

Let me know when he shits himself in public like Nadler, or falls over on stage, falls up stairs or falls off a bicycle or shakes hands with invisible people or walks off in wrong directions or sniffs childrens’ hair or has to have a giant Easter Bunny as a minder.

Backhand winner down the line.

cohenite
April 20, 2024 2:41 pm

Cronkite wouldn’t like her because she was too feminine.

What a terrible misrepresentation. I plan to rewatch Once Upon a Time in the West. Claudia who stars in that great movie was one of the few women who could give Charlie Bronson a run for his money in physical beauty.

But I digress, here is a cute owl:

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
April 20, 2024 2:42 pm

Boambee John
 April 20, 2024 10:18 am

Michelle Grattan wants a “voice for ethnic communities”? Considering how many specifically “ethnic” branches the political parties already have, there are already many voices for ethnic communities.

What she really means is that there should ONLY be voices for ethnic communities.

She doesn’t want “a voice” in the context we would normally understand.
She wants something like “Da Voice” as intended by the October referendum.
It isn’t a right to be heard.
It is a veto on any issue they decide to insert themselves into.

Top Ender
Top Ender
April 20, 2024 2:42 pm

Bruce Lehrmann defamation trial: Channel Ten has ‘zero interest’ in bringing back Lisa Wilkinson despite court victory

Daily Mail

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
April 20, 2024 2:46 pm

Former Australian Test opener Joe Burns has been released from the Queensland squad, with the Bulls unveiling eight newly contracted players ahead of the 2024/25 season.

Noooooo!!

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
April 20, 2024 2:58 pm

H B Bear
 April 20, 2024 2:54 pm

 Reply to  Top Ender

Played, as is the parlance of our times. Her agent will be lucky to get a phone call returned, let alone lunch.

Quite so.
Any contract renewal clause will probably be addressed with the shortest possible response, along the lines of, “Yeah … nah”.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
April 20, 2024 3:10 pm

The distinction I meant was that Christ wasn’t ‘an instance’ of truth ( that was the sense of example used), but that He was Truth itself.

Any more evidence that you have elected to live in a verbal fantasy rather than engage with reality would be superfluous.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
April 20, 2024 3:21 pm

Why do you care what other people believe in BG?
I mean, as a “man ‘o science”, it has no objective or measurable effect on your existence, so expending energy on it seems … well … superfluous effort.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
April 20, 2024 3:23 pm

What I’m hearing from credible sources is that Donald Trump is actually farting in the courtroom… I’m hearing it from actual credible people that as he’s kind of falling asleep, he’s actually passing gas and that his lawyers are really struggling with the smell.

You’d have a heart of stone not to smile at the au courant political discourse of the Left, as the Union is picked apart at the seams:

Trump is a farty poo bum.

Literally

chrisl
chrisl
April 20, 2024 3:27 pm

I have a little project where I want to engrave “ A coffee please” on a table in 7 different languages
Can any cats help ?

132andBush
132andBush
April 20, 2024 3:33 pm

Roger
 April 20, 2024 9:06 am

 Reply to  132andBush

I took it as comment on how authorities are unable to prevent the violence and have placed the community in danger.

No?

Roger,
The symbol he’s used for the pointer is the “male” symbol. A simple arrow would have sufficed.
The implication being all the violence is one way.
Also the two looking at the sign are a woman and daughter.

Rufus T Firefly
Rufus T Firefly
April 20, 2024 3:40 pm

‘‘The integrity of science depends on its capacity to provide an ever more reliable picture of how the world works. ……”

Never have truer words been spoken, Roger.

To quote the great Prof Richard Feynman, (yet again):

“I would rather have questions that cannot be answered, than answers that cannot be questioned.”

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DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
April 20, 2024 3:41 pm

Why do you care what other people believe in BG?

Because, Sancho, I might be wrong. So I want to know what alternative hypotheses and modes of thought are around, and what kind of arguments are used to support them.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
April 20, 2024 3:54 pm

H B Bear
April 20, 2024 2:33 pm

Interestingly Teh Weekend Paywallian story on the Brittany Blob devotes a couple of paragraphs to Dad’s evidence. Snoozer Kelly chimes in too. Next act will be either the NACC or Marty and former Senator Reynolds, although you think Dave and Brittany wouldn’t be too keen to roll the dice on that one now. Mais non?

A wicked problem.

Defend and lose, will add fuel to the $2.4m Thank You dumpster fire and expose whatever remains of the $2.4m to Reynolds’ costs and damages.

Apologise, necessarily denying Reynolds interfered with Higgins’ ‘quest for justice, no honestly’, will add even more fuel to the $2.4m Thank You dumpster fire because lying liars who lied.

I see a future where Brinny and her fat beau throw themselves on the mercy of the Frog legal system, unable to return, or be returned to Australia, or respond to legal proceedings, because fear of political victimisation.

Popcorn.

Cassie of Sydney
April 20, 2024 4:00 pm

Further to Lizzie’s haunting comment last night on her trip to Westfield yesterday, Mum and I decided to go to Bondi Junction today. Mum wanted to go to Sportscraft to buy something she has no need of, and so she originally said she’d pick me up and we’d go to Sportscraft Rose Bay however I said to her…Mum, why don’t we go to the Junction? I said to her, the weather is dodgy, the parking is easy at the Junction but most importantly, it’ll be good to support the centre. Mum agreed. So she collected me and we drove to Bondi Junction. Surprisingly there were quite a few people in David Jones however I noticed that people, shoppers or staff, were subdued, very subdued. However, despite the subduedness, I made eye contact with a lot of people and we looked at each other and smiled. It was comforting. Another thing I noticed was a level of security I have ever never seen before, on each floor of David Jones. Perhaps, given the dreadful events of last Saturday, I was acutely sensitive to their presence but it was different to normal.

I’m glad I went, we need to support the centre, because people work there and they need their jobs. Afterwards Mum and I did go down to Double Bay for coffee and cheesecake.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
April 20, 2024 4:21 pm

I’m glad I went, we need to support the centre, because people work there and they need their jobs.

You’re a good person, Cassie.

I’ve noticed before, but extra evidence is always useful.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
April 20, 2024 4:24 pm

DrBeauGan
 April 20, 2024 3:41 pm

Why do you care what other people believe in BG?

Because, Sancho, I might be wrong. So I want to know what alternative hypotheses and modes of thought are around, and what kind of arguments are used to support them.

But do you?
Do you really?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
April 20, 2024 4:26 pm

The thoughts of someone who “just wants to engage in other belief systems to test their own hypothesis”:-

Any more evidence that you have elected to live in a verbal fantasy rather than engage with reality would be superfluous.

That doesn’t sound like a very sciency enquiry.
It could almost be something a bigot might say.

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Morsie
Morsie
April 20, 2024 4:26 pm

Outside the Coliseum a few years ago.Woman grabs us and asks if we speak English. We were a little worried but she put a tour group of 12 together with a history phd.
Handed us over to another phd to do the forum.
Jumped the queues. Terrific value

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
April 20, 2024 4:35 pm

You may be right, but I anchored myself to “fantasy” long ago.

I’ve been puzzling about this since you posted it, Calli. I don’t really understand it.

I don’t feel any need for an anchor. I go where the wind blows.

cohenite
April 20, 2024 4:38 pm

And so it goes: the demorat filth proposing Trump be stripped of his security detail:

January 6 Chair Proposes Bill to Take Away Trump’s Secret Service (breitbart.com)

Miltonf
Miltonf
April 20, 2024 4:39 pm
Miltonf
Miltonf
April 20, 2024 4:40 pm

great minds think alike Cohenite

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
April 20, 2024 4:41 pm

Because, Sancho, I might be wrong. So I want to know what alternative hypotheses and modes of thought are around, and what kind of arguments are used to support them.

But do you?
Do you really?

Yes. You seem to have trouble believing me, but it’s quite simple. I might be wrong, I often have been about all sorts of things, and I prefer not to be. So I check out my beliefs and my reasons against others.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
April 20, 2024 4:45 pm

Cassie it was good to hear your mother went to Bondi Junction with you after she was so upset. People that are getting on find it hard to deal with things that upset them. They avoid instead. I like tough old birds. Not to eat of course.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
April 20, 2024 4:50 pm

Any more evidence that you have elected to live in a verbal fantasy rather than engage with reality would be superfluous.

That doesn’t sound like a very sciency enquiry.
It could almost be something a bigot would say.

Anyone who anounces that Jesus Christ is not an exemplar of truth but is truth, is offering an inane piety which abuses conventional language.

My daughter once told me that men on building sites whistling at pretty girls walking past was a form of rape. No it isn’t. And deforming language in this way makes it clear that no further discussion is worth having.

Cassie of Sydney
April 20, 2024 4:52 pm

I like tough old birds.

A perfect description of my mother! I have long thought that there was something in the water in this country back in 1920s, 1930s and 1940s that produced women like my mother….tough birds!

calli
calli
April 20, 2024 5:00 pm

DrBeau, a serious answer. What you see as “fantasy”, the hope of eternal life with the one who created and redeemed me, is the anchor of my soul. (Hebrews 6:19). For me this is no fantasy at all, because it isn’t one in truth. It is truth.

You mentioned disappointment with Father Christmas not being real, something that clearly angered you as a child. Whereas I found Father Christmas, big, hearty and strong, in Narnia. I knew he wasn’t real here, just as fauns carrying umbrellas aren’t, but he was definitely real there.

And so, at the age of eight, I understood the concept of allegory.

I don’t need faith to “get by”. Faith isn’t like something you can turn on and off in life’s trials, but those trials might be used to pull closer into the sketchy relationship you formerly had with the Almighty.

No doubt many will see all this as hogwash and wishful thinking. They have that privilege to think so.

calli
calli
April 20, 2024 5:07 pm

Meanwhile, today I have had another of life’s privileges. I have stitched with my seven year old granddaughter and also taught her French Knitting.

I had forgotten how hard it was once to sew on buttons!

The rain has continued on unabated, sometimes quite heavy. The first really decent downpours in over six months. We will have a joey-boom come Christmas as all the little ones hibernating in the pouches will start to grow. The lake is almost full, the water table replenishing, and now the setting sun is shining through a golden curtain of rain.

It really is a beautiful world.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
April 20, 2024 5:15 pm

And so, at the age of eight, I understood the concept of allegory.

Me too. But I also grasped the idea of fiction, and fictional worlds, and that the actual world in which we exist is different from the fictional worlds and confusing them can get you into big trouble.

I love the Narnia books and have since a child, and I check out every wardrobe carefully, just in case. But I’d be very surprised if I found a way into another world in one. Thrilled to bits, but very surprised.

JC
JC
April 20, 2024 5:16 pm

So I want to know what alternative hypotheses and modes of thought are around, and what kind of arguments are used to support them.

Pascal’s wager is a perfectly reasonable hypothesis.

Pogria
Pogria
April 20, 2024 5:17 pm
Rabz
April 20, 2024 5:31 pm

How Climate Scenarios Lost Touch With Reality

Science!

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
April 20, 2024 5:32 pm

So I check out my beliefs and my reasons against others.

Dr BG – You believe you are right. I believe you are wrong.

You have no data to prove your case. I however can offer evidence from about 3,500 years of extensive written history, and evidence that Christian methodology works – since nations which practice it are successful. Nations that don’t aren’t, at least mostly.

Likewise the psychology outlined in the Bible fits the data: regarding humans as inherently evil works empirically rather well, for example. It explains a great deal of human behaviour.

Furthermore the tenets of Christianity are that you are asked to believe, as Jesus Christ said over and over. That is consistent throughout the Bible, from Abraham to the New Testament. It is the single and only metric you are measured upon. We do have plenty of circumstantial evidence, but you will never get bonked on the head and told. It is for you to decide. Therefore the body of knowledge is internally consistent.

You on the other hand cannot prove God doesn’t exist. You believe He doesn’t, I believe He does and I have extensive evidence. If He does exist and demands your acknowledgement you are in deep excrement.

One of the fun things that has been happening in the last couple decades with the rise of computing are the scientists who hypothesize that we live in a hologram or a computer program. It’s interesting since if either of those were to be correct you might also surmise that the writer of the software might wish to interact with the virtual beings he programmed. And therefore arrange to contact them. So as soon as they had communicable information transfer and storage it would be viable to give them a message, in for example a book.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
April 20, 2024 5:34 pm

What you see as “fantasy”, the hope of eternal life with the one who created and redeemed me, is the anchor of my soul. (Hebrews 6:19).

I am pretty sure I haven’t got a soul except in an allegorical sense. I am sure I’ve got a body, including a brain ( I’ve seen pictures of it). I can see the merits of talking about the information processing my brain does routinely as in some sense independent of the wetware, but I don’t believe it will carry on after my brain has been eaten by worms. That’s like thinking that when you blow the candle out, the flame carries on in some other universe. Wishful thinking covers both.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
April 20, 2024 5:38 pm

Pascal’s wager is a perfectly reasonable hypothesis.

It presupposes that God, if He exists, is too dim to figure you out.

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
April 20, 2024 5:38 pm

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DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
April 20, 2024 5:46 pm

So as soon as they had communicable information transfer and storage it would be viable to give them a message, in for example a book.

Which you have to spend years decoding.

If God wants to persuade me that he exists, there are far more direct ways to do it. Unzipping the sky, peering in, pointing at me and calling out: “Beaugy repent!” Would work. As long as the event was up on YouTube next day, otherwise I’d prefer the alternative explanation of too much green tea.

So I have concluded that either God does not exist or he doesn’t care whether I believe in Him or not.

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
April 20, 2024 5:50 pm

Blondie and Rapture –

The original Rap song?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHCdS7O248g

cohenite
April 20, 2024 5:58 pm

Greg Kelly shows biden’s most recent lies; incredible that this piece of shit, this pervert, this disgusting creature is protected by 90% of the media:

‘This is sickening, this is deranged, this has got to stop’: Greg Kelly on Biden’s lies (youtube.com)

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
April 20, 2024 5:59 pm

Which you have to spend years decoding.

Dr B – John 3:16 is very widely known. It’s simple, no decoding is required. you do have to believe it though. Which is the whole point.

The rest of the Bible is there to give the underlying principles, methodology and footnotes for why you are expected to do what John 3:16 says.

If you want to light a fire you can strike a match. You do not need to do a PhD in chemistry to understand what is in the match, why it works and the thermodynamics and electron structures of the elements that make up the match. You just have to believe that if you strike the match you will have the fire you want. If you are curious about why it works then you can study the chemistry.

If God wants to persuade me that he exists, there are far more direct ways to do it.

I just said to you no He is not going to come and bonk you on the head. He is not going to send you an angel, nor a devil, nor even a talking donkey. That would be inconsistent with the principles outlined in the Bible.

Rabz
April 20, 2024 6:06 pm

Tucker Carlsoni, Cats: A personage purveying bizarre conspiracy hypotheses, for example, Mike Johnson is a bought and paid for indivegetable prone to getting intimate with kiddees?*

We report, you decide.

*or it’s Arkancide time.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
April 20, 2024 6:08 pm

Danger Dan Reviews:

Another day in paradise. Anthony Albanese Chris Bowen Katy Gallagher

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1882dyuJKM

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
April 20, 2024 6:09 pm

Blondie and Rapture –

The original Rap song?

I’d go with that. Amazing song. On the other hand Walk This Way by Aerosmith is from 1975 whereas Rapture is from 1981. But the rap version of Walk This Way is only from 1986. So there you go, you could argue it either way…

RUN DMC – Walk This Way ft. Aerosmith (1986)

Roger
Roger
April 20, 2024 6:10 pm

Anyone who anounces that Jesus Christ is not an exemplar of truth but is truth, is offering an inane piety which abuses conventional language.

So, you’re accusing Jesus of being inane, since he made the claim (which alludes to the name of God in Hebrew).

Which means he can’t be an exemplar of truth.

Just one of Jesus’ claims about himself which can’t be easily dismissed by those who yet regard him as a good teacher.

You can’t have it both ways.

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Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
April 20, 2024 6:12 pm

As to all of this Religious stuff, Hollywood got it right with this film IMHO-

The Greatest Story ever Told. That’s just it – A Story.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Greatest_Story_Ever_Told

Mind you, maybe these Lads got it right –

Life of Brian –

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monty_Python%27s_Life_of_Brian

Or, maybe Dave Allen got it right with “May your God go with you” –

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66lUk_qYpm4

Rabz
April 20, 2024 6:14 pm

Anyone who thinks Tucker Carlsoni believes in UFO’s is a big fat house sized bottomaged collectivist crackpot.

And here is a bottomage that is not house sized. 🙂

Miltonf
Miltonf
April 20, 2024 6:17 pm

incredible that this piece of shit, this pervert, this disgusting creature is protected by 90% of the media

Agree and this latest attack on Trump goes beyond banana republic level- this is full on Stalin. When the old perv was running for prez in 2019 it seemed like a sick joke. Little did we know the fix was in.

Rabz
April 20, 2024 6:20 pm

Anyone who announces that the Jesus Christ is not an exemplar of truth but is truth, is offering an inane piety which abuses conventional language.

So, you’re accusing the Christ of being a lad insane, since he made the claim

Oh, for goodness’ sake, Cats, not again! 😕

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Cassie of Sydney
April 20, 2024 6:23 pm

Some points….

Firstly, I am very glad that X and Facebook have both told Pretty Boy Minns and that creepy totalitarian fascist and WEF groupie, Julie Inman Grant, to get stuffed. Both Minns and Inman Grant have demanded that X and Facebook take down the footage of the Muslim stabbing the Christian bishop in the Western Sydney church. Both X and Facebook say….NYET.

Secondly, I have just heard on the news that the NSWaffen Police have charged another ‘rioter’ from the stabbing aftermath. My oh my, how efficient, yet the same NSWaffen Police have yet to charge/arrest one person from the night of 9 October 2023…nor have they charged any of the Islamic clerics for their hate speech. In fact the spruikers of Jew hatred are given a free pass.

Thirdly, it is my belief that the Maronite and Assyrian rioters on Monday night did us all a favour. Had they not turned up to riot I don’t believe the NSWaffen Police and state government would have moved so quickly to label the stabbing what it was, a terrorist incident. Instead, I believe that the Police and government would have tried to hide/smother the facts with the usual bullshit. I don’t condone the rioter’s violence towards the NSWaffen Police and particularly towards the NSW Ambulance but since 9 October 2023 I have zero respect for the NSWaffen Police…in fact I have absolute contempt for them.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
April 20, 2024 6:24 pm

I just said to you no He is not going to come and bonk you on the head. He is not going to send you an angel, nor a devil, nor even a talking donkey. That would be inconsistent with the principles outlined in the Bible.

Well He did, allegedly, send them to others. And you are arguing that if one believes in the bible as the word of God, then one is compelled to believe in the bible.
The converse of which is that if you don’t believe in the bible as the word of God, then you don’t have to believe it. Which is my position.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
April 20, 2024 6:28 pm

“Let’s look at how Four Corners, the self proclaimed “home of Australian investigative journalism” covered Afghan War whistleblower David McBride.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdYYIVoCvsM

On this occasion a fair story from FriendlyJordies.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
April 20, 2024 6:28 pm

Just one of Jesus’ claims about himself which can’t be easily dismissed by those who yet regard him as a good teacher.
You can’t have it both ways.

Yes I can. I just have to think he was a good teacher but got some things wrong.

Anyway, we’re annoying Rabz, and I can see why. This can’t go anywhere useful.

Top Ender
Top Ender
April 20, 2024 6:32 pm

Who knew? – you can get a Breaker Morant T-shirt:

https://breakermorant.com/new/?product=t-shirt

Rabz
April 20, 2024 6:32 pm

Cats, I’m not prone to panicking, except when I’m in Detroit … 😕

rosie
rosie
April 20, 2024 6:33 pm

Frank Sheed in ‘Theology for Beginners’ addresses ‘God has to speak to me from the sky’ and says, quite reasonably, even if He were to do that, the determined athiest would find a way to explain a personal appearance away.

Baba
Baba
April 20, 2024 6:34 pm

Hate speech is no more than an excuse for censorship. Two sides of the same coin.

Rabz
April 20, 2024 6:34 pm

we’re annoying a certain very annoying personage

Beaugues, these things happen, Squire! 🙂

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
April 20, 2024 6:35 pm

The converse of which is that if you don’t believe in the bible as the word of God, then you don’t have to believe it. Which is my position.

If God wants me to believe in Him for really bad reasons, I’ve got a cast iron excuse if I should find myself confronting St. Peter at the pearly gates.
“Sorry, Pete, but the arguments were so awful, my conscience wouldn’t let me buy them.”

Makka
Makka
April 20, 2024 6:36 pm

I don’t feel any need for an anchor. I go where the wind blows.

You could be just a little less pompous.

Looking where for your nirvana? A communist shithole like Cuba or the humid squalor of Sri Lanka? Doesn’t seem too wise to me. It does seem to me you have a need to find something- but just can’t. Which explains what appears to be petty immature jealousy of Christians who have. Dressed up with philosophical mumbo jumbo.

Rabz
April 20, 2024 6:38 pm

Hate speech is no more than an excuse for censorship

Gee, really? Who’da thunk it, you blessed with a house sized [redacted]

Crossie
Crossie
April 20, 2024 6:39 pm

Miltonf

 April 20, 2024 6:17 pm

incredible that this piece of shit, this pervert, this disgusting creature is protected by 90% of the media

Agree and this latest attack on Trump goes beyond banana republic level- this is full on Stalin. When the old perv was running for prez in 2019 it seemed like a sick joke. Little did we know the fix was in.

True, little did we know in 2019 but we do now and yet the fix will be in again in November. The US is over but then again when I look at Europe, large tracts of it are over as well.

Even here in Australia, we have said no to the voice referendum but the politicians are moving ahead with it regardless. The other ominous action against us is the empowerment of the eSafety Commissioner who decides what we are allowed to see and say.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
April 20, 2024 6:39 pm

Rap by itself is crap. But it seems to work in musical tracks like Rapture and Walk This Way. Here’s another from the virtual guys of Gorillaz (ie. the ridiculously talented Mr Damon Albarn):

Gorillaz – Feel Good Inc. (2005)

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Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
April 20, 2024 6:41 pm

Rabz
April 20, 2024 6:32 pm

Cats, I’m not prone to panicking, except when I’m in Detroit … https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/15.0.3/svg/1f615.svg

No panic in Detroit with these lads –

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1g3e3cgktZU&list=PLrh5dAB8zl_4t2wTdDgu-eW1wqNKN-oxX

Motown

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DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
April 20, 2024 6:44 pm

Frank Sheed in ‘Theology for Beginners’ addresses ‘God has to speak to me from the sky’ and says, quite reasonably, even if He were to do that, the determined athiest would find a way to explain a personal appearance away.

I’d need to be sure it was really God and not, for example, a mischievous alien with great powers, but He could persuade me if He wanted to. I’m not so determined I couldn’t be sold on His existence, just a sceptic about the conventional wisdom.

If I could ask him a few questions, like which of the thousands of sects has it right, that would be useful. If He said ‘the catholics’, I’d become a catholic. If he said ‘the evangelicals’ I’d have to think about it.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
April 20, 2024 6:46 pm

Look, just sod off and keep your head low. You got lucky that your potential suitor is an ill disciplined git who thinks more with his little head than his big one and had a judge willing channel vibes…

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13330551/Brittany-Higgins-breaks-silence-blistering-statement-judge-Bruce-Lehrmann-raped-Parliament-House.html

The article is full of self serving twaddle if you can stand it. Psyops prep for the tussle with Reynolds?

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
April 20, 2024 6:50 pm

Looking where for your nirvana? A communist shithole like Cuba or the humid squalor of Sri Lanka?

No, I went to those places for quite different reasons. In the case of Cuba it was the cigars. And curiosity. In the case of Sri Lanka, just curiosity. I wanted to know if I could survi

Eyrie
Eyrie
April 20, 2024 6:52 pm

Re God and religious belief, the late Greg Bear wrote a couple of novels where this featured.
Darwin’s Children
Darwin’s Radio
Interesting arguments made.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
April 20, 2024 6:56 pm

Looking where for your nirvana? A communist shithole like Cuba or the humid squalor of Sri Lanka?

No, I went to those places for quite different reasons. In the case of Cuba it was the cigars. And curiosity. In the case of Sri Lanka, just curiosity. I wanted to know if I could survive if I just turned up to see what it was like.

Your idea that I went for religious reasons is dotty. I worked out long ago that the thing to do with my brief time on this planet was to have as much fun as possible. These trips, and many others were in pursuit of an interesting and hence fun experience.

Bobtheboozer
Bobtheboozer
April 20, 2024 7:03 pm

Seeing as how we’ve a meeting of the Big ‘Eads here tonight, can someone tell me the difference between a Cult and a Religion?
Is Christianity a cult or a religion?
Is Islam a cult or a religion?
The only philosophical difference I can see is that someone can leave Christianity, but they can’t leave Islam.

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DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
April 20, 2024 7:07 pm

can someone tell me the difference between a Cult and a Religion?

It’s the numbers. They all start as cults, but when there are enough to beat you up when you laugh at them, it’s a religion.

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
April 20, 2024 7:07 pm

“I worked out long ago that the thing to do with my brief time on this planet was to have as much fun as possible. These trips, and many others were in pursuit of an interesting and hence fun experience.”

Always look on the bright side of Life –

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJUhlRoBL8M

And the Pursuit of Happiness

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Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
April 20, 2024 7:09 pm

Looking where for your nirvana? A communist shithole like Cuba or the humid squalor of Sri Lanka?

Can’t pass that up.

10cc – Dreadlock Holiday (1978)

Maria got all our hearts a flutter.

Rabz
April 20, 2024 7:12 pm

It’s still a great song, Cats:

Stand Down Maggie!

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
April 20, 2024 7:23 pm

Sri Lanka was a communist shithole too. Going to see what communist shitholes are like was definitely not an endorsement of them. Quite the opposite.

But in both countries, the ordinary people were lovely.

In Cuba, outwitting government bureaucrats was the national sport. One bloke I met ran a taxi service. For this he needed new cars. The Cuban government has banned the importing of new cars, but permits the importing of spare parts of cars. So he went to Europe, bought some cars, dismantled them, shipped them to Cuba as spare parts, and reassembled them when they arrived.

It’s hard to believe bureaucrats can be that stupid, but they are. They follow the rules, no matter how stupid. Once you know the rules, they’re toast.

Rabz
April 20, 2024 7:26 pm

Pop Culture, the Twentieth Century and some of the greatest purveyors of it. 🙂

Another ALPBC archives triumph – courtesy of Clone Down.

Indolent
Indolent
April 20, 2024 7:27 pm
Indolent
Indolent
April 20, 2024 7:28 pm
Indolent
Indolent
April 20, 2024 7:29 pm
Indolent
Indolent
April 20, 2024 7:30 pm
Indolent
Indolent
April 20, 2024 7:31 pm

They’re making it up as they go along. Nothing whatever to do with actual justice, which is what the court system was set up for.

Trump trial: Prosecutors withhold witness lineup from former president’s team

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
April 20, 2024 7:33 pm

I’ve put this one up not long ago but it fits Dr B’s outlook pretty well, so hey! Mean that in a nice way. I also like the song and the video.

OK Go – Do What You Want (2006)

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