Warren is truly evil and psychopathic. A foul old phony.
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And deserves huge applause for plowing that delicious field!
I had to scroll halfway down the main page to a link entitled The week in pictures: two days to…
Australia’s newest warship HMAS Stalwart breaks down, undergoing emergency mechanical repairs
How we laughed at the Russian Admiral Kuznetsov aircraft carrier as it was towed around the globe. Well, we aren’t looking that flash, either. Hark at the two Queen Elizabeth-class carriers – they aren’t exactly covering themselves in glory with regard to operational reliability. And the cost of these vessels is enormous. There is something seriously wrong with the Western military industrial base. Russia is churning out ships and subs of very respectable quality for a fraction of the cost as ours. I don’t see many laughing at their reliability issues now.
Anyway, if we’re serious about defence of the homeland, we should scrap or flog off this oiler along with the entire surface fleet, which would be sunk in days if we were ever in a hot war with a dangerous opponent. These boats exist solely to carry out disaster relief duties in the Pacific, and to make good on our commitment to the US alliance (which looks to be entirely one way, and it always will be – anyone who thinks the US will protect us from any nation looking at our shores with covetous eyes and possessing the capacity to fulfil its ambitions needs their head read). They are an expensive indulgence. Our Navy should be entirely under da sea. We should have enough subs lurking off our shores to make the marginal cost of invading the country too high.
And we should look at who provides the biggest and best bang for our buck. That means considering the dreaded Russkie offerings. And, yes, it also means radically altering our relationship with the US, so I expect it will not happen any time soon, and certainly not at the initiation of the Australian side – the US may well cut us loose when they can no longer afford to maintain their global defence alliances.
With regard to the forbidden Russian option, I’ll also add that whilst US may still lead the world in naval design, it is at least a generation behind the Russians in terms of the munitions its vessels can fire. They are so far in front of us in terms of the speed and range of their missiles of all classes, not to mention our complete inability to intercept the most dangerous of these missiles (and even some of the models currently being superceded), it is getting laughable that we still purport to have a technological edge over them. Let’s not even talk about their missiles defence capabilities, which can intercept most of pretty much everything we could throw at them with the exception of a full nuclear strike.
The best those who disagree with this assessment can do is assert that these Russian systems don’t really have the capabilities claimed. That presumption seems a dangerous gamble to me. What if they do? Aside from anti-Russian animus and/ or blind faith in Western technological superiority, why would you think they don’t? The Russians and the Soviets who preceded them have long had an edge over the West in these technologies. We bet on overwhelming air and naval projection capabilities, they bet on platforms that could take these threats out. Why wouldn’t they be better at it than we are?
So that is the story of defence procurement in the West. We pay a fortune for second rate capabilities that often don’t work when you need them to. And Australia is locked into this regime, a regime that stands in stark opposition to the most fundamental of our national interests – the ability to protect our borders from foreign invasion.
Karl Denninger in AI and the hype surrounding it. He has the runs on the board in computing.
https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=251500
The whole ‘Dr’ schtick just sounds dirty, cheap and phony now. PhDs are a dime a dozen.
Too true.
I’ll also add that whilst US may still lead the world in naval design
They ain’t that flash, look up Zumwalt destroyers and Littoral Combat Vessels
Or DPhils if it’s Oxford. Pretentious tosh.
Dead liberation is real!
Their vote has been heard!
Check this job ad for a role at the BBC.
Should have read “deadshits”.
This is what 70 years of non-recyclable US Navy nuclear waste looks like – all in one spot.
For wonks: Popular Mechanics describes the process. Given the intimidating size and remoteness, geological stability, and low rainfall of Australia’s interior, it would hardly be possible to find a better location.
Except for the Wagyls that run the show.
Finland seems to have a fix on nuclear waste. They have built deep deep vaults in geo stable rock, will be happy to store waste for a fee.
Dr. F., thanks for above. I note there is a reference to a site called, The Uranium Information Center. Do you know if it is still active?https://web.archive.org/web/20020806140943/http://www.uic.com.au/about.htm
Interesting timing, given that the Queensland LNP has ruled out nukes but Dutton wants to build two reactors there.
None of these reactors will ever be built.
I see that the daily lefturd talking points are out.
Sez you. All wind puffery and sunburn is your choice, over thousands of miles of this continent and renewed every twenty to twenty-five years.
Talk about ‘renewables’ that new renewing themselves constantly, that is ridiculous infrastructure planning and you know it.
Meanwhile, let’s keep our useful coal-fired power stations.
Maybe some of these reactor sites could be turned over to new high-tech coal fired power, once the scare of the anthropogenic warming hoax is more generally accepted.
Dutton is arguing for ‘a mix’, and that is the right way to go at present.
I suspect that most of the so-called presentations of the aboriginal culture is an invention of ambitious applicants for taxpayer money and aspirants to academic fame. Without recorded proof and interruptions in oral history perpetuation it is just fiction.
?If Aboriginal culture was so superior and beloved by practitioners why did it fold like a wet origami when it came into contact with modernity and Christianity? Could it have anything to do with the new arrivals providing a superior lifestyle?
One of the great joys of “oral” only v. written/recorded history is being able to change the context to suit whatever suits your pet theories .. LOL!
An anthropologist once remarked of his leftist colleagues that dirt is matter out of place: for example, an Aborigine or Pacific Islander who embraces Christianity is a contradiction in terms, even worse than a white colonialist.
Well, this was all a bit of sport for Luigi when he thought he could unclip the collar of the Pali-Feral dog and watch it fight Torries.
Bit of a problem when the feral dog turns on it’s handler.
LOL. Thanks, Monts. Your wrongology record is unblemished.
My immediate thought as well – the first shovel to turn the dirt is currently being handed across the counter at Bunnings.
FFS.
I suspect they’re not really creating a seperate electrical grid for all those multitudes of rooftop panels.
Let us preserve this latest piece of what will ultimately prove to be Monty wrongology for posterity.?
A perfect opportunity for the Greens to put forward a new green policy. Ships with engines will always run the risk of breaking down, but the wind has no moving parts!
What Australia needs to do invest billions of dollars in developing a new kind of ship. One that somehow is able to tap into the energy of the wind. Perhaps it can have things like trees on them – big trunks soaring upward with bits branching out sideways, and from these sideways bits you could put big sheets that the wind will push into.
These windships will be a new kind of ship! Much better than those big smelly ones we have now, and better than the ones that brought people to Australia – with all those colonised slaves below deck rowing their great big oars.
And best of all is that you can get Labor on board by merely uttering the magic words in Albo’s ear: Australia can become a windship powerhouse!
Powered by the farts of lefturds?
I love ships with sails, 18th and 18th Century ones the best also GPSail and America’s Cup for the technology.
I’d agree on the confusion issue.
But if Dutton offers concessional power for a Nuclear Industry Hub in Gladstone, Christwhatafulli will have his daks down in seconds and be nuancing for all he’s worth. (There’s a throw, if ever there was one.)
Yep. I mean, on paper the tech is great (especially the Zumwalt). It just doesn’t work that well, if at all.
My meandering response to Rosie’s 8:40 a.m. post:
Might that not be the “world’s oldest reconstructed culture?”
My layman’s understanding is that culture is something that changes due to both internal (population increase/decrease) and external factors. It is responsive, not chiselled in stone (so to speak). We know that due to geographic isolation (with the exception of northern coastal and island areas), there were no external influences, which inhibited the development of technologies (such as tools) and alternative social structures and economic concepts. That is understandable.
It is also understandable that Europeans, who had not been so geographically isolated, viewed the state of technological development as ‘primitive’ because comparably, it was.
From European settlement, indigenous culture changed in response to external influence, as had every other culture in recorded history which had not possessed that same geographic isolation.
Arguably, it is only in the past handful of decades that pre-settlement indigenous culture has been reconstructed, significantly due to the recorded observations of 19th Century Europeans, and non-indigenous Australians perceiving value – cultural and financial – in that reconstruction.
While not ignoring the generosity of non-indigenous Australians’ interest in indigenous history, art, artefacts, and general well-being, it is impossible not to imagine that without the significant financial sums from the Australian taxpayer, this reconstructed indigenous culture – strangely and ahistorically nationalised – would not exist. Conceivably, there would be pockets of passionate ‘amateurs’ (not in a derogatory sense, but unfunded), but little else.
Here we are, funding – in material wealth and positive intentions – the reconstruction of a culture we have no connections with, nor do we owe any loyalty to, while our own Christian, western European culture has radically changed over the last eight decades. How much more generosity must we – can we – exhibit, while being spat at and derided?
I’m too wound-now to finish this. I’m an Australian, and proud of it. It’s as simple as that.
Because of our relatively isolated geography, our current culture is likewise decaying towards the same primitive level as the Abos. Long term we will become a light brown nation with a privileged elite and a vast underclass living at subsistence levels on whatever crumbs of energy the elite deign to provide. The relentless importation of low IQ, low innovation replacements is only accelerating this transition.
You can’t blame the Abos for the tyranny of distance and isolation, and it would be the height of hubris to believe that we are not all subject to the same inexorable fate as them.
We are certainly on that trajectory, Barry. We have a fruit salad of cultures (plural), some of which are deemed of more value.
The point I was trying to make in my ramble was that Australian indigenous cultures (plural, not the homogenised indig blob) was largely discarded by them and is now being reconstructed: financed and supported by non-indigs, for which the latter are still held in revulsion.
I don’t have a problem with reconstruction, but there is a need to be honest about it, and also to acknowledge those who have enabled it.
In simpler terms, Aboriginal culture died on contact with Great Britain.
The Great Dying of Aboriginal Culture continues to this day and all the financial and philosophical support will not change that timeline appreciably.
However, the cost to the individuals continues to grow in the alcoholism, murders, injuries, and just common old violence perpetrated on the poor buggers. It’s only of any use to those who refuse Canute wise*, that the tide is coming in.
(I’m using the common every day idea of why Canute was sitting on a chair which isn’t why he did it.)
I agree, nor should they be, must emphasise, I have nothing against nuclear but with the coal reserves we have no need for them.
Refurbish the existing coal plants to today’s standard or build new high efficiency ones makes a lot more sense.
Why let the Chinese burn our coal if we can’t?
Gabor, I’ve suggested in a reply to M0nty above that some new coal-fired power stations should also be part of Dutton’s ‘mix’. Also, that M0nty’s dream of vast ‘renewable’ installations is not worthy of the term renewable, because they require new plant to be installed every 25 years or less.
This is disastrous infrastructure building. One good cyclone would see a lot of it tumble or smash.
You get it, Gabor. This is not about nukes at all. The real agenda is extending the life of coal.
We’ve already built infrastructure around coal, and reaped it’s benefits.
Now we need to reap the benefits of a Nuclear style infrastructure, many of which can’t be gained through coal.
E.g. Medical radiotherapy, the ability to store and burn the worlds nuclear waste, and the technologies inherent in that burning.
The world used to distill off the gasoline fraction of oil (distillate as it was known as.) and dump the rest of the crude. One day, a refining company boss said to his engineers – “Find something to with this waste, it’s really expensive to get rid of.” And the plastics and catalytic conversion processes created wealth undreamt of for us.
I would be more than happy to live next door to a nuclear power plant.
There would be good security that’s for sure.
Hairy and I lived 5km down the road from the one at Heysham in the UK once, near Lancaster, for four months in a holiday flat where others in this temporary accommodation were engineers working at the plant. There was a pleasant Council picnic park right next to the big towers. I found it interesting because the park had once been a gathering point to keep British slaves awaiting pick-up by Viking traders who liked the deep-water port at Heysham. The Romans also used this port, with boatmen who ferried supplies in to the fort at Lancaster along the estuary of the River Lune.
Locals weren’t concerned about the plant, even though it was an older one.
Sure Cranky, off you trot then, all the way to Traralgon.
Piss off, Nazi.
Would you like a wind tower in your back yard.
Exactly.
Next time ask them if they have enough of the stuff.
That’ll be a fun response.
is Dr Edwards yet another case of the meowing nuns. There is definitely a collective hysteria in the Universities.
I guess Dutton’s announcement is also an admission that SMRs are stillborn. Presumably he wouldn’t go through all this electoral pain just for nine SMR-sized plants. Or maybe he is that stupid?
Hey Nazi, anything to say about a Jewish MP’s electoral office being vandalised overnight? Or perhaps you approve?
Of course he does. He is a fascist, just like the vandals.
‘I’m too wound-up now…’ that was meant to be.
*Sigh*
Re the Defence disasters:
Its the same syndrome that has led to multiple IT disasters in the public (and private) sectors.
They start out with a big picture, which does everything and solves all problems.
Then, they do a ‘scoping study’ which is meant to define some parameters about cost and what can be delivered.
Next, a tender is drawn up.
Tenderers bid.
After a very long time (we are talking years after the initial ‘scoping study’) someone wins. By then, the world has changed.
The IT world has changed, compatability has changed, goddamit, everything has changed.
Meanwhile, the client has asked for a whole bunch of changes (we’d like a kangaroo to be the screensaver, plus we want to extend the range of the missiles).
No biggie.
Then the DEI taksforce get on board and demand separate quarters for male, female and undecided.
Defence has had the project management skills of a five year old.
In fairness, other departments (especially DSS) are even worse.
Let’s not forget the decades old project to integrate our health records. I, for one, hope that it never succeeds.
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The concept of a managerial class that is capable of everything has morphed into a managerial caste that is only capable of screwing everything it touches.
Why let the Chinese burn our coal if we can’t?
Because we are now a stupid country.
No wonder the Chinese call Albo handsome boy. He is certainly not a smart one and the Chinese are too polite to point it out.
too stupid for words
And Just Like That!
All those reporters are suddenly experts in energy.
Our village is a modified version of one of these. It’s not working as intended as the grid still needs to be able to take the excess from when the batteries are full.
Our local grid can’t take the power and we have so overloaded it, the park owner got a whopping $5 fi credit, (not a great return on 180 houses *6.6kw) so we are on self consumption, we generate power on our panels, we use that that first and then the battery is topped up. Because of the way the inverters work in this mode we now draw 2-4 times as much as from the grid as we used to.
The idea of households selling electricity to the power grid is Dope-Smoking Nimbin Hippie Dreaming 101 — authored by a stoned gender studies student after electrical engineers were locked out of the process.
The iron law of unintended consequences?
People at Muswellbrook NSW have lived near two large coal fired power plants for a long time, no probs!
People in France live near Nuclear power plants and have done so for a long time. France sells power to other Euro countries who haven’t been so smart.
The ash from coal fired power stations contains much uranium and thorium in microscopic zircon and similar minerals. I expect that the coal power causes far more radiation exposure over a far wider population, that all nuclear power plants in history.
I don’t hear any reporters being experts on aluminium smelting.
It takes heaps of affordable power, that’s why they’d rather not talk about it.
The joke that is ‘thugby’ and it’s Sunday footie management style in action .. again! Yesterday afternoon Soufs released a official statement claiming the rumour that Damien Cooke was leaving was pie-in-the-sky fairytale media fantasy … This morning ….. duuuuuuuh!
https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-premiership/nrl-2024-damien-cook-signs-with-st-george-illawarra-dragons-2025-to-leave-south-sydney-rabbitohs-shane-flanagan/news-story/0e2d639b69736a018d15b808c2ae0c4b
That isn’t an explanation, that is an excuse.
A new document with new details adds nothing new?
Varvel the pick of today’s toons?
Diogenes at 8:00.
Crikey!
You’re in the wars.
Are you permanently on insulin?
Or will you go back on oral tablets when the kidney picks up?
Roman Polanski was unavailable for comment.
I initially read the banner as “Proud Supporters of Joe Biden and The Pedophiles” and wondered if they would be as big as the Wiggles?*
*Not suggesting the Wiggles were anything but honest musos, just looking at similar target audiences.
Bank Assets Seized: Yellen’s ORWELLIAN Double Speak & How to MAXIMIZE FDIC Deposit Insurance
The Biden Administration is proving to be just another criminal enterprise – a Mafia to be honest.
They appear to be engineering a financial crash and then confiscating private citizens funds.
This plus the fact that any nuke plant would require massive amounts of direct government investment and/or subsidy… yeah this is not a conservative policy in the least.
But it was never meant to be a realistic policy. Just a figleaf for the coal barons.
He’s announced they will be Federal government owned. As I say just below: do keep up.
LOL.
Do keep up Monty.
If SMRs are so popular, why is Dutton not including them in his policy?
We need large dispatchable power stations Monty because you lot have been closing down large dispatchable coal fire power stations to fight imaginary climate fairies.
I’d prefer Dutton to promise HELE coal plants actually, but nuclear will do.
(It’s a sensible policy since conventional nuke plants are well developed technology, whereas SMRs are newer and there are only a few of them operating yet. Apart from in subs of course. I would like CANDU so we could use thorium as well as uranium. We have lots and lots of thorium which presently is useless.)
Wow! Even the green are in favour of nuclear power.
Spud not going to die wondering. The end of Dr John and no policy from Opposition?
mUntyfa
Solar, wind and the associated transmission lines also “require massive amounts of direct government investment and/or subsidy”. They are not a conservative policy.
Electricity policy has killed off a few PMs. Look out Albo.
Here you go Monty.
US 15 years behind China in nuclear power – report (17 Jun)
That’s an average of 7 years, with the faster plants under five years. I know they also have operational pebble-bed SMRs that are fully commissioned and producing commercial electricity.
I thought Albo is cuddling with China right now, surely he could get them to build us some reactors.
Chinese construction might not be too popular in the West (WA) after the Perth Childrens Hospital.
Best to stick with BCG and Multiplex. Our boys.
Kieran: This is the “party of small government” re-nationalising power.
Yeah. So?
Labo and Greens have so f*cked the power system that it’s an emergency.
J’ismist discovers his love for free markets.
I don’t have a problem with massive government investment in certain infrastructure projects. France has profited handsomely from its early investments in nuclear energy and high speed rail, for instance. I think we’ve well and truly missed the boat on the latter (high speed rail will be obsolete before a return on the investment is possible even in an absolute best case scenario where the network is planned perfectly and constructed without a hitch, which would never happen) but it isn’t too late for nuclear power. It is proven technology requiring a large upfront investment that will likely pay off in the long term.
I wonder if the coalition jumped too soon, though. Perhaps the Australian public requires a good taste of what a green energy future based on solar and wind with no reliable baseload generator is like before it will resist the inevitable nuclear power scare campaign.
I bet the ABC is already making inquiries with HBO to buy and air Chernobyl.
OCO:
It is proven technology requiring a large upfront investment that will likely pay off in the long term.
Unfortunately, it also requires strict adherence to the legal question of the anti nuclear class, the unions, and others who were referred to in some cases as “Wreckers.”
They are the major reasons nuclear plants take so long to build – money well spent by the USSR and China.
Just thinking about so-called “renewables”.
The description is, ironically, not inaccurate. The solar and wind generators need to be “renewed” around every 15 or 20 years.
Unlike coal or gas fired or nuclear generators.
You’re being too generous there, even the ABC says wind turbines have a lifespan of 10 to 20 years. Talk about absolutely garbage tech.
Everything has a lifespan. Its probably comparable for all fossil fuel plants too, especially on an NPV discounted basis.
The left must be absolutely erect with excitement that the right now think that buying Soviet gear and embracing Moscow and Beijing and scorning democracy and the West is the way to go.
Internationally, the left must think it is almost mission accomplished at this point. Green light, green light, green light.
How disappointingly weak you all are.
There is no more ‘left’ and ‘right’, just patriot or traitor. Do you seriously think our government is acting, or even trying to act, in our interests?
WHENEVER did the world work in that way?
What the hell makes you think for one second that you deserve anyone else acting in your interest?
Grow up and act in your own interest.
But don’t try to convince me that anyone parroting the propaganda points from Russia and China about my country, my culture, my people, my heritage is in my interest. These are OUR geopolitical rivals or enemies, no matter how bad you think democracy, how corrupt you think our leaders or how pissed off you get about your circumstances.
Domestic gas reservation was raised as a significant industry issue in the lead up to commitment to the Queensland LNG projects.
It’s a complicated technical/economic issue for CSG – now probably too hard to deal with at a reasonable cost – but there were solutions in 2012/13.
Alas, too complicated for then Minister, Andrew Cripps, to wrap his mighty brain around.
Another Liars drone.
Have you clocked the state of democracy in the West and the West in general recently? What is not to scorn? And it isn’t as though things are getting better. We’re living on the fumes of our once great civilisation.
As far as Australia goes, I’m not saying we have to hitch our cart to the Russian and/ or Chinese horse or whatever. I’m saying we go our own way and be pragmatic about what works and what doesn’t from all parts of the world, free from obligations to great powers.
Our reliance on non-great power Spain for naval vessels is not working out all that well.
Some of the focus group work coming out of Redbridge was, at first, exciting and then a bit worrying.
Redbridge reported that most of the people in their focus groups weren’t really interested in green energy to save the planet. Well, that’s a good start because its killing the planet.
But, worryingly, the groups liked ruinables because it “diversified the market” and would “push prices down.”
DOWN!!!? OMFG!
Maybe the focus groups were held in Wentworth?
I’ve done a lot of straw polling amongst many friends who’ve opted into rootftop solar. For the $15K+ investment (usually loaned via the solar company) over a 5-7yr period (due to the financial structure of such companies), they say they are paying more in energy still but “maybe” not as much as others; however, most say its negligible. The cost of the loan, however, means, you’re basically paying more than you normally would. Just, on loans, not electricity.
I don’t know too many “middle Australians” who have a handy $15K in their wallet plus another $5K+ for a(n “optional”) battery.
The “funniest” things are those friends of mine who opted in around 10-12 years ago when Barnett was throwing cash at it. They didn’t realise these things have a (diminishing) shelf life of 12 years, if you’re lucky. You only see a very marginal return in years 7/8 to 11/12 when you’ve paid off your loan and have to get new ones!
Won’t be long now until the second installment of panels will be needed by quite a few people. One family member is on second lot of panels (SA early adopter). Have no idea of their economics, we just had a generator installed(suburbs), figure it will hold its resale value in the long run even if we never have to use it.
Watching idiots cheer on Russia’s attack on a Western ally which was ready to join NATO has been sickening.
It can no longer be excused as a temporary and understandable reaction to the draconian covid tyranny.
At this point you are enemies of my country.
Yes, our elites revealed themselves to all of us. They’re awful. All elites everywhere always are.
Yes, politics is dirty. Always has been. Did you never notice until the Russian and Chinese began ramping up the information war?
The future is bleak. I maintain a state of cheerful pessimism. No one ever told you the good times could last forever. No one guaranteed you anything.
Like every other creature on the planet you have to fight for existence, and like every other creature except small children and pets, you have enemies.
Given that every prolonged war eventually boils down to defending kith and kin and hearth and home rather than an ideology, this is a question that will have to be faced by pro-Putin & pro-CCP Westerners sooner or later.
Why isn’t this question faced by pro-GAE westerners?
No Arky. I disagree with you strongly. If Queenslanders were being shelled and murdered by NSWelshmen, would you expect us to sit on our arses doing nothing about it?
And yes the situation is a bit more nuanced than that, but when civilians are being killed that’s where the rubber hits the road.
Otherwise, I’m in agreement with much of what you say.
Robert, I’m sorry, I’m not following. Which thing are you disagreeing about?
Lmao
I dunno Dover. I think Conservatism (traditionally) has been associated with the Right. I don’t think the old linear line works anymore.
How does one explain things like the Democractic Labor Party? They were Labor Labor Labor through and through (economically) but a lot more (ethically/morally?) conservative than the Labor Party.
The salient point here is the idea that a conservative party couldn’t support direct government investment in public infrastructure; which is absurd.
mUntyfa’s definition of “conservative” is essentially leftard propaganda, and not to be taken seriously.
It is sickening that modern Ukraine is a Western ally. Anyone supporting that regime is either extraordinarily ignorant or they don’t give a rat’s about the ‘Western values’ they purport to champion, which the Kiev regime is fundamentally at odds with.
I hope they go with the one earmaked in Jervis Bay. I reckon my land values would double. I was really pissed when I was doing work for Power Nuclear Co. Japan. In the early 80’s. Shut down an exploration site overnight and it was a goer. No Vision is how politicians should label themselves. What mediocrities we are being led by. Can’t even defend ourselves yet unending supply for every useless person and idea that have no benefit to Australia. Australia has been so kind to me and my family and we responded in kind by not being a burden. Now we’re providing a lifestyle for the perennial whingers, grifters and hopeless to a standard that half the taxpayers don’t have.
From JC’s June 18, 2024 8:29 pm comment:
If Australia were to nationalise all the electrical generating plants – including the solar and wind factories, pay them off over say 10 years, and charge the same price for electrons as China does – 8 cents – would the boost in production and the savings to consumers cover the costs?
This is an economics question – put pencils to paper and run those calculators hot, boys and girls.
We privatised the wrong things.
Education, health, the ABC and welfare should have been fully privatised. You know, the expensive stuff full of actual communists.
We should have kept power stations and the commonwealth employment service.
Legislation to guarantee low power prices.
Commonwealth guarantees employment and anyone who refuses a job offered becomes instantaneously reliant on private charity. Not government welfare.
Australia spends billions upon billions on useless green energy projects (Snowy Two, for instance as well as transmission lines from the major agricultural areas we despoil with so-called ‘renewables’). With some diversion of major projects and leftard boondoggles into nuclear power plants we’d ride over the cost and hardly notice it.
Now, Arky. Are you going to engage substantively with anything I’ve written here or are you just continue to bloviate obliquely about traitors, rats in the ranks, your enemies etc?
Whatever dark place thinking about our future your mind goes, rest assured my vision of our future is much, much worse than yours. I understand fully the hell towards which our foolish leaders are propelling us. I long ago foresaw and forewarned.
I told everyone that the DEI, woke insanity would not stay in the schools. When others here laughed, years ago and said “Wait until they reach the workforce, reality will knock the nonsense out of them, nyuck, nyuck, nyuck”. I said it would not work that way. I warned that when that ideology met reality, it was reality that would bend. And it has. It has changed the world.
I warned for decades that deindustrialisation would come back and bite us. Now we complain that Ukraine is using up more ammunition than we can make. I warned that what had eaten footwear, clothing and textiles and was at that time eating manufacturing would not stop there.
I warned it had nothing to do with competitive advantage and everything to do with weakening the West. And here we are. Go to the supermarket. Look at the bacon on the shelves Where is it made? Not here. Not the reasonably priced stuff. Look at the ongoing attempts to destroy agriculture. The farmers who laughed at the closure of local factories and those who taunted “They took our jerbs”, now look down the barrel of the same lunatic forces. Dispite the fact that it was the closure of factories I worked in that amused them, I don’t see their current travails as at all amusing. I don’t think the coming famines are amusing.
I don’t think the destruction of going agricultural concerns is any better than the destruction of our industrial base. I hate that our security relies on the USA. As much as I admire the US, for most of my life we at least maintained the delusion that we would defend ourselves.
The life you would lead under a new Soviet empire, or as a vassal of China would bear no resemblance to what you have now, or even what you will have should we begin the corrective course of backbreaking hard work and hardships required to rebuild our nations.
Those trying to convince you that it would be like living in Moscow or Beijing or even a second tier Chinese city with all the cool new infrastructure are lying, or do not understand how other ethnicities are treated and incorporated into those powers. You would not be a valued Russian or Chinese citizen in that model. You would be the Uighur, or the Tibetan or Chechen. Or worse.
Our leaders are awful. Correct. It would be those same awful leaders acting on behalf of Beijing or Moscow ruling your life.
The West is the best. Fight for it.
I was almost alone in predicting they would steal the election in 2020 once I saw the postal votes numbers in October that year.
And no one seems to have understood that Biden would not step down.
He might become so debilitated that replacing him is unavoidable, but the machine behind him will not do that unless it has to.
You know the difference between our leaders and someone like Putin? Putin seems to actually like Russia and care about its welfare. In this respect, it’d be nice if our leaders felt the same way about the countries they lead.
Incidentally, I have lived in China and have witnessed firsthand the inherent structural problems and contradictions that that country will need to grapple with going forward. I suspect I buy into the glossy brochure version of modern China presented in the West even less than you do.
The West in its traditional strongholds is lost. I’m not saying give up or surrender to despair. I am saying be prepared for what follows, and to rebuild. There are going to be arks of Western civilisation in the world from where it is possible to rebuild, and these will be in central and eastern Europe – and, yes, in Russia.
Now, backing the very people who have ruined our civilisation is not smart. Reflexively opposing the enemies of those people is not smart. Their enemies are not necessarily our enemies.
If Putin really loved Russians, he wouldn’t send so many of them to their deaths in a war of expansion.
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Maybe. Maybe he loves Russia. We aren’t Russians.
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I didn’t know you had lived in China.
Do you speak mandarin?
No to speaking Mandarin.
I agree that we aren’t Russian and should not expect Putin to love us. But then again, that wasn’t my point.
Was your point that Australian leaders should be more like Putin? But that seems not to line up with your reluctance (which I generally agree with) to not involve us in wars.
I mean, if our leaders were the perfect mirror of Putin, Ukraine would be like the Korean War with US troops on the ground in contact with the Russians.Our lot are being very, very careful to tip toe around, unlike during the 20th century.
My point was that there was a time when Western leaders at the very least manifested a desire for their own countries to prosper, that their own countrymen should advance, and these were their first priorities. I see Putin manifests this towards Russia and Russians. It is a characteristic that I wish Australian leaders manifested towards Australians, yet they do not and have not done so for many years. It is the same for all liberal Western democracies – our leaders uniformly are concerned governing to benefit themselves, the other members of their ruling caste and their global peers. It is a good part of the reason why the West is lost.
So no, I do not want Putin to be leader of Australia or any nonsense like that. I think Putin is a good leader of Russia, however. I think he earned a great deal of credibility from ordinary Russians for what they see as his actions in leading their country out of the chaotic and catastrophic 1990s, for taking the country back from the foreign and domestic looters who were expropriating anything of value from the carcass of the Soviet Union, and for restoring a sense of social normalcy and stability. I think their view of Putin is largely correct, and I would probably also place a great deal of faith in him if I were Russian and lived through those times.
I get the feeling he loves the idea of Russia. A powerful and dominating Russia where the nations on his borders are a glacis plate that wars are fought on – not the Russia he wants to survive.
Dutton’s tweet this morning:
What a load of twaddle. Is he proposing SMRs or big-arse traditional plants? Nine SMRs would be a drop in the ocean, and not make a dent in our 2050 energy requirements.
None of it makes any sense at all, except to muddy the waters on behalf of his billionaire donors.
Everything you’ve written is ‘twaddle’, Nazi. You talk about ‘billionaire donors’ but the truth is you don’t mind those billionaires who adhere to your pathetic leftist ideology, names such as Andrew Forrest and Simon Holmes a Court.
mUntyfa continues to “muddy the waters on behalf of his billionaire” maaaates, sucking the reliability out of our electricity generation system.
As opposed to Simon H’AC, Twiggy etc, if even true.
Moron.
The Chinese don’t think it’s twaddle Monty.
I thought lefties just loved the Chinese…?
Todays talking points would have necessitated printing out the entire 3 page document to fit the action plan in.
Perhaps PM Pekingese should cease fighting Torries and instead fight Pallies?
He’s too dependent on the Mooslime votes in Western Sydney.
Why would he when Tories don’t hit back?
Rebel News HQ:
Come meet Tommy Robinson LIVE in Canada!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-75pXg7zfoE
Nazi salute and public display of symbols to be punishable by up to five years in prison in proposed WA laws
Premiers office assures me that the legislation is restricted to the Nazi salute and display of Nazi symbols, it won’t extend to Hamas banners and chants of “From the River to the Sea, Palestine shall be free. “
South Australia Energy minister:
Same applies for pretty much all of the locations Dutton proposed. His policy is DOA.
More twaddle from the Nazi.
All that farmland you want to cover in crappy turbines and transmission lines is currently being used for farming. But one ‘green’ cement factory, oh no, we better not disrupt that!
Turbines and solar panels have a long history of deployment in existing farmland without disrupting it. Livestock enjoy the shade, and the pasture grows just as well.
Tell that to Farmer Gez, mOnty.
Farmer Gez has a skill issue.
That’s a good one. Farms are higher tech than most IT industries, software and hardware both. Plus they actually have to make things rather than run fantasy sports websites.
Stop displaying your gross ignorance, even I am embarrassed for you.
Infrasound. Bird and bat fatalities in the millions. Catastrophic real estate price collapses. If that isn’t disruption then I don’t know what is. As Gez told you he can’t operate his standard farm machinery since the wires are too low.
Sorry, Monty, you are out of your depth, here. Obviously you cannot crop canola, oats, lucerne or any damn fodder cereal for humans or livestock when the damn paddock is covered in solar panels!
So what are we left with? Pasture for cattle or sheep? Well, cattle are totally unsuitable for stocking solar farms for many reasons – including sun deprived growth of grass, and potential damage to solar infrastructure (if you don’t believe me I have seen structures that weigh a ton being damaged for “itchy” cattle between the seasons.). I don’t have info on sheep, but I suspect that the same restrictions occur re pasture.
Now I have also been talking to a farmer whose cows’ health have been influenced by damn turbines. Now, you may think it is a joke. It is not. The low frequency of the turbines seems to have a disturbing effect on cows, as it does on humans. Successful pregnancy rates have fallen in his herd.
You are spouting a load of bullshit, Vicki. Farmers moan and complain about everything under the sun. Tell it to the other one, it’s got bells on.
Vicki lives on a farm and runs cattle, M0nty. She grew up on a farm with horses and lives now on her farm in a farming community. The only farmers your Labor ‘lot’ know are what we used to call Pitt Street Farmers, people with rural tax havens, in recent times Labor lawyers with vineyards, and now, God help us, as per the Australian Magazine this weekend, coalitions of greenwashed ‘doctors etc’ purchasing good farmland to deliberately ‘re-wild’ it.
LOL. Is this anything like governments ramming through legislation to force the construction of wind turbines and solar panels on farmland in face of local objections?
Maybe you lot should’ve thought about that before getting your confiscational commie jackboots on. Turnabout is a female dog ain’t it Monty?
Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
So Dutton bangs on and on and on about SMRs but then announces zero SMRs, and no investment in infrastructure to build SMRs?
Completely unserious.
Let me see Monty.
If Labor keep building renewables with gas turbine backup they will be producing how much CO2 per year?
If Dutton builds nuclear power plants instead how much CO2 will that produce a year?
Your answer son will determine whether or not you are a hypocrite.
Under the Dutton plan, emissions from extending coal plants in the next fifteen years (minimum) would greatly outweigh theoretical savings from nukes in our lifetimes, Bruce.
Dutton’s nuke plants have 0% likelihood of ever being built, in any case, so any comparison is moot.
ROFL. You do realise, don’t you, that Labor is already extending coal fired power plants. They’re even paying for that. And at the same time they are refusing planning permission for LNG import terminals, thereby forcing the coal plants to continue?
You really are amazingly ignorant Monty. We at this moment are generating about 20% of electricity from renewables. And it’s a good day for wind and solar. It’s usually less than this. How long is it going to take to build another 4 times that? And then all the backup gas turbines for windless cloudy days?
Pollies hate blackouts, that sort of thing gets them turfed out of office.
Those ‘renewable’ installations need regular renewing, far more than the far less fragile and far more permanent facilities of major power stations, whatever energy drives them. And then we have to dispose of the masses of old and dangerous garbage from each regular renewal of panels and turbines – oh, and those turbines use a lot of oil, yes oil, in order to keep turning smoothly. Plus not factored in properly is the cost of constantly ‘renewing’ this breakable and unstable infrastructure of ‘renewables’ and their transmission lines across bushfire and cyclone regions – such infrastructure which we will of course still purchase from China, far more cheaply than we could ever manufacture panels and turbines here in Albo’s bold new ‘manufacturing’ industry: lol, us as a ‘renewables’ super-power. He’s dreaming.
The daily lefturd talking points seem to be even more incoherent than usual today.
SMR’s can be left to the private sector to fund as appropriate in areas not well serviced by traditional grids, or in specific industries or businesses. They are not all that expensive, however in the current situation in Australia we need full-on baseload for the national grid. There is also a huge, and growing, waiting list for purchase of SMR’s – many countries want them, especially developing countries without much of a national grid. We don’t have that time to waste before getting started on a serious energy transition to nuclear. I hope, in time, when the climate cult has lost its electoral grip, that we can also consider some of those sites for new coal-fired power stations too. Coal is still king of the world.
There’s something in common between these two stories. I wonder what it is?
Doctor Who: New Ratings Low: Worst In 60-Year History: Fails On Disney+ (18 Jun)
Nolte: Lesbian Witches Drive Disney’s ‘Acolyte‘ to Another Record-Low Audience Score (18 Jun)
How could Star Wars and Dr Who suddenly become so unpopular? It’s a mystery!
Zali Steggall doesn’t know what you are talking about, Bruce. She very right on with all of the transitioning and related stuff, talking down her opponent Katherine Deves’ very reasonable concerns about mutilating little children in the name of saving them. Vote for mutilating little children. What a nightmare set of ideological idiocies she was supporting in the last Federal election. I hope Stellgall’s opponent reminds her of that in the next election, waving copies of the Cass Report at her. How many children were mutilated and their normal sexual puberty stolen under your careless and uniformed watch, Zali?
SBS has announced itself to have been voted ‘Australia’s most trusted news source’.
OK, good. Voted by whom?
Sky of course is down the bottom.
Hang on, I was told that Their ABC is ‘Australia’s most trusted news source’.
Which of this pair of taxpayer funded leeches is lying? Or are both lying?
The University of Canbra formerly Mickey mouse college of advanced ejucashun. Say no more.
Zali Steggall LOL:
Australia doesn’t have a coherent Government under Albanese, either.
Chicken Little is chasing imaginary climate fairies. That’s all you need to know about her “serious, responsible and realistic economic policy for Australia”.
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Windmills for Wahringah. You know it makes sense, Zali.
I think she’s rather begging the question on “serious realistic economic policy.”
Prove it.
Neither should occur, certainly not in the present political climate, because the Schmittian exception will largely favour the other side.
Quoting Zali Steggal
Priceless.
Was actually thinking along your lines.
LOL she should talk about coherent…
Same here!
SBS has announced itself to have been voted ‘Australia’s most trusted news source’.
Chuckle.
Last time I looked at the ratings they were also Australia’s least watched news source.
Tits, soccer and Nazis.
And it’s hilarious that nuclear, an established technology used around the world is now a Boogie man for so called greenies.
Apparently reverting to third world living conditions is what all the cool kids yearn for.
I vote that when load shedding becomes a reality all households with climate action now placards are the first to get their power turned off.
I think the Milko has moved in. The munted one is more unhinged, if that is possble, than usual. Like all good lefties he failed comprehension. No doubt mathematics as well to be followed by Econ 101. A few weeks was all it took. That Eureka moment, “I haven’t got a effing clue”. Probably the only accurate thought he’s ever had. Still, he is consistent, consistently wrong. What a maroon. Even Bugs Bunny got it right. This place is probably the only place anyone pays attention to him, even if only to point out how stupid he is.
What is traffic like on either of his two blogs?
So because this dummy doesn’t agree with the direction Dutton is taking the party, this means it’s an incoherent opposition? What a fool.
The reality is that Dutton’s the most effective leader of a party elected off the back of losing government at the previous election in recent memory. The opposition is in fact surprisingly coherent under Dutton, to the extent that he may well be the next Prime Minister. Anyone who isn’t a partisan mouth breather would acknowledge this reality even if it doesn’t exactly fill them with joy.
Here’s a fact, if we want to pursue the lunacy of net zero emissions then the only option for reliable cheap energy IS nuclear.
Quoting Steggles is very low energy. Sad.
Luckily Sky counterbalanced their panel on nuclear matters just now. Eamonn Fitzpatrick would fit right in at MSNBC or CNN. Sky needs to be careful how far down full retard lefty disinformational garden path they want to go. David Gazard provided a sensible counterweight, but really, we don’t watch Sky to get what we could get for free from most of the MSM.
I get 95% of my daily news from here. For free. (Well apart from a little regular contribution, which no doubt nearly all of you are matching. 🙂 )
And the information is only marred by Monty who is subsidised by China to be an irritant that can’t be scratched.
He’ll be rolling in it after todays efforts – I wonder how much he gets paid for the traffic?
What you get for free in the MSM airwaves is worth exactly what you paid for it. Which is why blogs like New Catallaxy or The Currency Lad and other centre right social media are informing more and more people.
A few dollars tossed in the right direction can always help these blogs survive, btw.
SA Labor is currently demolishing the heritage-listed police barracks and horse facilities to make way for the $3 billion new Women’s and Children’s Hospital and having to rebuild those police facilities elsewhere at a cost of $125 million plus. But oh noes, you can’t build a nuclear plant at Port Augusta because ‘green’ (LOL) cement factory!
Cassie, you make a sound point that bears repeating and further elaboration: there are good reasons to develop nuclear energy generation in Australia. Reducing our carbon emissions isn’t one of them.
Yep, as I and some others have also been reiterating here, always adding the rider to our support for nuclear power that coal-fired power would do the same job just as well, as it has always done. Belief in the climate hoax is driving the nuclear push, and during the time we are politically stuck with that we have to build nuclear, so great has been the indoctrination of the voting public into the CO2 scare (with a new generation of indoctrinees arising). Nuclear is ideal base-load power as it has no emissions at all except steam, whereas coal has gaseous and particulate emissions as well as steam. CO2 doesn’t matter but living next to a coal-fired plant can upset some asthmatics.
Will the last lefty leaving the no-nukes bus please turn out the lights? Looking at you Monty.
Bill Gates’ great $1B commitment to nuclear energy should be a wake-up call to climate progressives (18 Jun)
Couldn’t the nuclear power plants sell carbon credits in advance? Carbon credits are only paper instruments, after all, so a futures market can exist. Isn’t that what all that “green finance” was about?
Just don’t purchase them with anybody’s superannuation.
Dutton literally said today that the correct number is 37% renewables. You are no good at this Bruce. Put the clown nose down.
The Nazi has nothing coherent to say.
If he wasn’t a Nazi, I would pity him.
And you literally believe him !
Monty, I could add up the numbers on that AEMO energy site without needing a calculator. I told you what it was, live and at that particular time. The AEMO data is saved into a ginormous spreadsheet every 5 minutes and there are many apps that visualize it. That happens to be my favourite one.
I also look at the data reasonably often. I would say 15% is more the usual. Oftentimes it is 1% with adverse weather for renewables.
Next time (a) read what I wrote and (b) examine the data I provide. You make yourself look even more ignorant by objecting to the actual real data. Who should I believe, you or my lying eyes?
So you are calling Dutton a liar. Interesting.
Talking about a different day, perhaps? Or is that concept too difficult for a top j’ismist?
I am not calling Dutton a liar since I only have your comment about what he said. Given your track record this morning of being approximately 100% wrong about everything I have this suspicion about your assertion.
Plus I gave you the real time data at the point I made the comment. Perfectly accurate since it is the official data from the official energy market operator. And it is a sunny day with pretty good wind. Do your sums. Ok don’t bother with that, from my direct experience you are utterly useless at sums, science, engineering or anything approaching actual reality.
The 37% number is in Dutton’s tweet that I already posted in this thread today, Bruce. Do keep up.
That’s the things about ruinables dickless.
They can be 37% one minute and 0% the next.
Steggles is proof is Mosman really is the place where your brain goes to die.
And Hawthorn, but it was already to late for mutley.
See also Harold Scruby, president (for life) of the very pedestrian council.
Nonsense. The late Australian columnist Malcolm Colless was a Mosmanite. He was a wonderful observer of politics.
I lived in Mosman when I first moved from Mt. Druitt in 1960.
Oh, the culture shock!!!!!!!!!!!!
A fast learning curve too. I was seventeen and had just started working in advertising as a typist. I quickly became a copywriter. Talk about Peggy in Mad Men.
I see the Cat hot takes of “state-owned enterprise is actually based conservatism” have already started, LOL.
No different that what is going on now, the market is totally government controlled. I’d much prefer to go back to a free market.
You know what that would do Monty? Coal plants.
We should, agriculture would love it. And since CO2 does very little there’s no reason why we shouldn’t.
No, at the moment the market is largely owned by China. You would rather drop all regulation and let them run the show?
Monty are you dim?
The electricity market is utterly at the mercy, or lack of, of government policy. It is not a free market. If it was a free market we’d still be paying 10c/kWh, and Victoria would be raking it in because they can generate electricity for 2c/kWh from brown coal.
I almost wish China was in control of our electricity market since Chinese retail electricity is US 8c/kWh.
Why is that Monty? Could it be because they burn more coal for electricity generation than all the rest of the world put together?
And have lots of nuclear plants?
It would be because the Chinese economy is centrally controlled. I don’t think they are the John Galt gigachads of free market libertarianism you seem to think they are.
Um Monty our economy is also centrally controlled in most respects, if you hadn’t already noticed. Ask SATP about all the permits he has to get to try and run a business.
The biggest difference is that China doesn’t believe in climate fairies. Nor Rainbow Serpents or lesser spotted newts. Russia and India also don’t.
Plus their universities churn out lots of actual scientists and engineers and very few gender studies graduates.
If you admire China so much, go and live there.
Enjoy the smog.
mUntfa is too stupid to even read budget papers to see how roads, hospitals et al are funded.
Dumb even by the lax standards of j’ismists who failed Economics 1.
I’ve discovered from whence muntsac receives his talking points.
Little Lord Fauntleroy no less.
Unsurprising.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13544919/Peter-van-onselen-dutton-nuclear-announcement.html
The idea that a policy (zero emissions) put in place to wreck the West’s industries and upturn the world order through disrupting energy markets, could incorporate a workable nuclear solution is illogical.
You don’t spend decades putting in place a nation wrecking policy just to mitigate it’s destructive power at the last hurdle.
If you are for reducing human emissions you are for reducing humans.
Kaboom!
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Steve Inman:
Social Media vs Reality
https://rumble.com/v52cccs-social-media-vs-reality.html
Now THAT was funny!
Well done to this Jury.
I hope Charlize’ spirit can now rest.
I pray that her mother develops a rotting skin disease, and that her murderer is placed into General Population in prison.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13515537/Justin-Stein-verdict-Guilty-murder-schoolgirl-Charlise-Mutten.html
The Victorian government announces a truth-telling process for victims of abuse in state schools. Who would have thought?
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-06-19/victorian-government-responds-to-beaumaris-sexual-abuse-inquiry/103994094
Not possible. We were assured that there was absolutely no such abuse.
Cynic that I am, my initial thought was that Danger Dan must need something else to get his name off the front pages.
Regarding Dr Mutton and his “Chernobyl in every backyard” announcement, is the squawking of the usual suspects audible in space yet?
Of course not Rabz – In Space You Can’t Hear the Farts. Or Smell Them Either.
Now now, go easy on m0nts. He’s a dim bulb who would comfortably get by with a hamster running on a wheel connected to a tiny generator. Of course he finds all of this talk of reliable baseload power supply laughably absurd.
Poor Kieran Gilbert!
He’s so conflicted by the nuclear policy of the coalition.
Keeps making the sort of dubious noises he wouldn’t ever say about Labor’s dodgy energy and EV ones.
I would rather garden than watch Sky during the day.
Even if they wouldn’t know if their house sized backsides were ablaze.
A state owned riddle for Monty.
Chinese company builds a wind project in Western Vic.
All the materials are Chinese sourced and most of the building and operational staff. Direct support mechanisms and some subsidies are paid by the taxpayer and all income is derived from domestic power users with the profits derived from government mandated regulated returns then going back to Chinese investors.
Belt & Road by any other name.
Hey Cassie, if you are around, a lovely clip of an Israeli woman and her dog on America’s Got Talent. Simply beautiful.
Hat Tip to Michael Smith.
https://x.com/AustralianJA/status/1803004586887975252#m
It’s time Sky found someone less blatantly left-leaning than Kieran to anchor their daily daytime political coverage. The way he keeps plugging away in a biased fashion is rather off-putting.
Instead of paying for Sky News we could get that sort of lefty spin almost anywhere else for free.
An excellent suggestion, BB, but it’s currently not possible as a conga line of green left armchair revolutionaries is 100% of the graduates of Australia’s university journalism courses.
J-school graduates are like Hamas fighters in Gaza: kill one and 100 are ready to replace him.
That very much depends on the nature of the enterprise, the capital required and the service provided.
If there were no state-owned hospitals, for example, the uninsured majority would be unable to access treatment. How would that serve the interests of the nation?
When we needed railways to get wheat, wool and minerals to port the colonial governments were the only entities large enough to take on the investment.
You see, conservatism is pragmatic, not ideological. There is no dogma that the state shouldn’t own enterprises, but rather a practical attitude that the state should only do so when it’s clearly in the public interest and the private market can’t or won’t step up to provide the public good.
That line would be believable Roger, if the last forty years of neoliberalism hadn’t happened.
Your sudden rediscovery of Menzian nation-building regarding nukes is a great departure from recent rhetoric from the right around Snowy 2.0 and the NBN.
LOL, mUntyfa still hasn’t notices that the progenitor of Snowy is, like Cannon-Balls, Holmes a’C and the other parasites, a subsidy harvester of a lefturd inclination. And only a socialist would have neglected to check the geological issues.
As for the NBN, the back of the drinks coaster was completely unnecessary, the results would have come faster and cheaper from private investment.
The problem is sovereign risk. Liars governments pandering eg to potential Greens voters and other morons just cannot be trusted not to destroy the country to get at their ideological enemies.
Miltonf
June 19, 2024 9:34 am
Why limit yourself to Oxford?
Any philosophy doctorate is a wank and a waste of time unless you intend to teach it to the next generation of pretentious suckers.
A doctorate necessitates an original piece of research. That is an end in itself. In my discipline that was the case – although that was a long time ago & these days I suppose it is a requirement of tertiary teaching.
In STEM it is also pretty much necessary if you want to go into R&D, which I really wanted to do. It’s been fun!
Even STEM is now fully compromised though. Glad I’m not 40 years younger.
Some fifty years ago, a nuclear physicist I worked with described a PhD as a moderately intelligent person with a couple of years free. And that was when some rigour was required to get one. Now …
He preferred to work in the real world.
Correct Arky.
I have no issues with nuclear power but leftists cannot be placated – you either destroy them or they destroy you.
Say whatever you need to say to get elected and then treat leftists the same way they treated the unvaccinated.
State owned requires a public service. Ironic.
It requires an administrative service truly dedicated to serving the public, not itself.
We used to have one, not so much now. There are still some professional parts, but far too many grifters.
I was referring to Roger’s recent ideological argument that the PS should be abolished. I’m not buying into the conservative pretension that they and only they are objective practical political polemicists with no ideological axes to grind.
Agree Sancho. I’ve just observed that if you did your doctors thingy at Oxon it’s a DPhil rather than a PhD
But “most trusted” by the several hundred or so greenfilth imbeciles (BIRM) who watch it.
Greenies luv answering surveys .. wukka type folk not so much ..LOL!
Pointing out correctly that both are utterly unnecessary black holes* sucking in hundreds of billions of taxpayers’ dollars.
*Literally in the case of the former.
I’m afraid that many conservatives/ trads/ rightists have never had to think too deeply about any of this. Naturally pro-police, pro- order, pro- service, pro- family, and pro- defence. We are now put in an uncomfortable position.
A police force that enforced tyranny. A defence force with men dressed as women. Sports as indoctrination tools.
The progressives have always done all the creative and imaginative work. Conservatives aren’t by nature, generally, story telling or highly imaginative.
Saving the English speaking democracies at this point requires an imaginative and compelling new story. A moon landing or opening up of new territories type of event.
Oddly the Ukraine War may be a catalyst. Suddenly out of nowhere EU countries are seriously talking about conscription again. They’re even spending money on defense!
NATO: Record Number of Allies Hit 2 Percent of GDP Target (18 Jun)
Wars focus nations of what is real not what is imaginary. That then can catalyze a changing of the political herd mentality away from meaningless rubbish. That happened in the US from the lefty New Deal to winning WW2 by sheer industrial awesomeness.
I hope so anyway, the alternative isn’t nice.
I fear that the English speaking parts might hear the call too late.
A lot of it is too far gone. The trade schools, the basic industrial infrastructure, the docks, the foundries, the refineries and the people who knew how to run them.
They’d better start doing so. Events have a way of taking us by surprise.
I missed that….and I disagree.
All the great stories are conservative because they seek to conserve the true, the beautiful and the good, which ultimately all come to us from without and above.
The prog-left imagination lives only as a parasite on this tradition at best, a destroyer at worst, nihilistic and self-absorbed.
This goes back to Augustine’s thoughts on the nature of good and evil.
m0nty
June 19, 2024 12:08 pm
South Australia Energy minister:
Breaking news for the technically illiterate.
Transmission lines are largely agnostic about the types of electricities they transmit.
And guess what?
If there is no solar and wind power being generated, there will be ample room for noocular electricities to be carted along the transmission wires.
…
You’re welcome.
The usual suspects are out and about on noocular power.
“It’s iwwesponsible and will damage investment in renewballs!”
Err, that is how competitive markets should work, you morons.
Unreliable and expensive options are weeded out.
“competitive markets”
You mean Dutton’s 100% government-funded, state-owned enterprise?
Doubleplus good thinking from you Sancho.
Spot the competitive electricity generation technology Monty.
If that graph was real, Dutton wouldn’t need to rely on government funds to build nuke plants.
If lefturds had brains, this wouldn’t be an issue. But their mental weakness slows them to be deluded by grifters.
Wars focus nations of what is real not what is imaginary
Really? Truth being the first casuality of War. Most wars seem to be unnecessary and achieve little.
Britain and France going to war in 1939 over Poland led to Poland being under the communist boot heel for 44 years. Vietnam? That worked out well.
Korea, you might have a case but if MacArthur had nuked the Chicom troop concentrations the world might well be better place. or simply bombed the crap out of the MiG bases north of the Yalu.
War is shit.
True. But losing one is shittier.
Fear is an excellent motivational stimulant for pollies. I guarantee that if WW3 suddenly broke out all the green-progressive shite that Canberra has been indulging in would suddenly vanish.
And not be missed.
Roger,
I think you make a very good point about conservatism not being ideological, but rather pragmatic. Its evidently correct.
Except I’ll add a point about the opposite of conservatism (Muntard in point): I spent over half my life as a “progressive” (a Trot, in fact). Nothing was ideologically driven. Nor was it pragmatism.
Quite simply, it was: Hate, envy, greed, gluttony, frustration, anger…
This explains why the Left are so inconsistent from an ideas/policy perspective because it’s never about ideology, it’s always about “the side.”
How? Well, you know but I’ll say it anyway:
–Nova Peris slammed and many derogatory remarks for her stance on Israel. Yet she’s an aboriginal woman. Same for Jacinta. No abuse for Sam Kerr in an English cab. Completely inconsistent, unpragmatic and not even ideological.
–Dutton slammed for finding a clean, efficient energy source that is used worldwide. Slammed and abused. QLD destroying huge swathes of natural forest for wind turbines and transmission corridors. Same.
–Adam Assbandt praised for calling for the destruction of African nations who need to survive by having their own industrial revolution.
-From a US perspective: Clarence Thomas. Need I say more?
–George Pell, innocent. Yet their ABC refuses to apologise for actually promoting pederasty on TV and in their own ranks.
–Barry O’Farrell Vs Craig Thomson. Seriously!!?
I could write a book on this!!!
If only Leftards used ideology and/or pragmatism.
Thanks, Lysander.
Weak men make tough times.
The people who are most shrill in wanting to ‘save the white race’ and so on are often those with a dubious connection to it, so it often seems.
Hence the fellow who promoted n*zi ideas in Sydney in the 1970s had a Lebanese name or some such. The pamphleteer who eventually did a PhD. (Does he comment here?)
Or the apartheid ideologues who were Boers with part-African ancestry. (Not saying apartheid itself wasn’t also practical in some ways, once it was normal and widely accepted).
And Eastern Europeans with uncertain Turkish antecedents, or just ingrained paranoia about anything from further east.
ENGLISH conservatives tend to be practical and flexible. So when someone is obsessively looking for heretics and enemies, I tend to suspect that they have at least a touch of non-English/Irish ancestry. Old World paranoia, the sort of thing which led to wars, century after century. Excitable Continentals.
Being “practical and flexible” has worked so well with gay marriage, renewables, border security and lawfare.
As for the weird race stuff, I don’t see anyone above talking about race at all. Explain.
Gay marriage which they have in Taiwan but NOT in China, or ever will. Funny that. Flexible can also mean alliances of convenience, diplomatic realpolitik. Practical can also mean banning gayness for the greater good. No I introduced the race stuff, because I smell something Continental. I’m fishing for a reaction of course. Any Poles here? Balts? Dutch? hmmm? Jim Saleam, is that you out there somewhere? I’m lazy, I want you (plural) to shed some light to save me groping in the dark. So I can focus on what’s relevant and what isn’t.
You’re a troll.
A race obsessed lefty troll. No one except you today has mentioned anything about race.
Naah, I been around since Tim Blair and went to battle with Mr Numbers before anyone. But what are you? Ukrainian? Eastern european? That in my experience explains much more than any blah de blah. F’n Ukes, Balts, some Poles, caused more trouble to us English than much else. Go back where you came from if that’s where yr heart is, and quit BS us. Australian? You wish. I’m just an Aussie with nowhere else to go and sick of fighting wars for others. I asked politely, now no too bad.
You like Russia so much, you should go. Troll.
Race obsessed lefty troll.
..
Bullshit.
I smell a commie troll.
But then it all starts to sound like Lord of the Rings, doesn’t it? The threat from the east, the Hobbits in blissful ignorance in Hobbiton, Strider and Gondor…
I did the maths once a long time ago.
From memory…
Over time around 1% of people get killed in wars. Your lifetime chance is 1/100.
Something like that.
It’s unsurprising that most people in peacetime don’t think about it much.
But it does happen. Peaceful, happy times such as we have long enjoyed breed complacency.
The troll (and Chris Bowen) are ultra-needy today. Mr Potato Head must be over the target.
Yeah, Monty is especially butthurt today. What gives?
Fear and panic among the lefturds.
Dutton has destroyed every Cat talking point on nukes.
Cats: Nukes are so cheap compared to solar/wind it’s not even a contest, private companies would jump at the chance if the states lift the bans
Dutton: announces a completely government-owned venture to build nuke plants with no consultation with private enterprise
Cats: SMRs are awesome and the future of energy, there will be hundreds of SMRs all over Australia
Dutton: announces two (2) SMR sites and seven regular plants
Cats: you can build nuke plants from scratch in five years
Dutton: maybe I can fast track the two SMRs in eleven to thirteen years but Michaelia Cash says more like sixteen at the earliest
Cats: building on existing power plant sites means you don’t need to build new transmission lines
Dutton: I agree
All state govts: actually no those lines are being used by renewables already, you’d have to build new ones
What a shemozzle.
Yep, except for coal.
Happy to build coal plants any day of the week Monty. You have never once mounted a single scientific case for the existence of CO2 produced global warming, so coal is just fine by me.
Yes Bruce, underlying Dutton’s utterly silly nuke policy is boring old coal-baron-funded anti-science nuttery. Glad you could admit it.
Um, can you read a graph Monty?
Ok I can understand if you cannot. Graphs are hard.
That graph is easy to read but its assumptions are nonsense, Bruce.
BoN – source? Zero capex and opex for coal is just BS.
Not zero, but you do have to increase the magnification. 😀 Most of the cost of electricity produced by coal and gas is the fuel cost, since the capital cost is depreciated over fifty years. As I said upthread the Victorian brown coal operations can still produce electricity for 2 c/kWh. Jo Nova put that up fairly recently, but I didn’t save the link.
Source for the graph:
The True Cost of Wind and Solar | Power Line (3 Apr)
The second link gets you the graph in jpg form that inserts into the Cat.
Thanks. The life of coal plants certainly comes into play. Basically turn them on and let them chug away. Have been rendered uneconomic by Arts graduates.
Whereas solar and wind decline in effectiveness after ten to 25 years, and will need replacement after about 20.
Billions in capital costs, written off in less than half of the life of a coal powered generator.
Think the big smelter customers were paying 3 or 4c/kW/h to provide baseload demand back in the day. Essentially just follow the cheapest power on the globe.
Sez you who is unable to distinguish between NAMEPLATE capacity and actual delivered.
God but you are dumb. Do you have to make a conscious effort to keep breathing? In… out…in
mUnty, you might to Google regulatory risk and ask why no private sector finance will touch generation assets. Why are assets Kennett sold for billions unable to be given away today?
Piss of Nazi…and don’t appropriate Yiddish words.
One thing to remember about SME’s is that with the population growth we can expect to 2050 (when I and some other Cats won’t be around to argue) there may be much more need for SME’s in new population areas where the existing grid isn’t feasible to carry electricity. They may well have some importance in the energy mix for that reason let alone other needs for them.
If there were no state-owned hospitals, for example, the uninsured majority would be unable to access treatment. How would that serve the interests of the nation?
Or they could pay cash at a realistic rate. Insurance results in an unholy alliance between the insurance companies and the service providers.
Both benefit when the service is exorbitantly priced and the premiums likewise.
Not saying apartheid itself wasn’t also practical in some ways, once it was normal and widely accepted
We have apartheid in Australia. Abos have their own medical system and much else, not for whities.
We get Imparza TV from The NT where we live. The ads are a real educations. One of the most absurd is a special legal service for the “community”. It is called “Advocacy”. It makes me laugh. I say to my other half – “Who on earth in the bowels of Canberra called the legal service ‘Advocacy’????
Dickless has been busy anti-nuking. Actually just anti LNP piss taking, which is fine.
But here’s what Dutto should do: Billy Gates has just turned soil on his Natrium reactor (the chunks have already built 2 completed back in 2019) which are molten salt cooled and have as much waste as dickless has gonads, which is to say nil:
Next Wave of Nuclear Can’t Come Soon Enough | RealClearEnergy
Unfuking believable:
Israel Gave Work Permits, While Palestinians Planned Oct. 7 Massacre :: Gatestone Institute
And the scum leaders of hamas are all billionaires and live in Qatar. Yet the useful idiots in the West are protesting in favour of hamas. The West is stuffed.
I don’t think anyone has said this.
Or this.
I don’t know if anyone has said this, but it is certainly possible. The Chinese are able to build them very quickly, so where is the error?
Correct.
No, you are lying. Not all state governments said that. There is no renewable power generation at the Muja site in Collie, for instance, and the transmission lines transmit energy generated from the coal fired power stations in the area. I believe the Queensland government said something like this (and no doubt others), and they are also lying. The power generated from renewables and transmitted via lines formerly used to transmit energy from coal fired stations would barely touch the sides in terms of the capacity of those lines. These responses from state governments are plainly hollow, glib political ripostes to the proposal that m0nty uncritically parrots as fact.
The Liars state governments are trying to frustrate Mr Potato Head’s affordable electricity policy with Marxist blocking tactics. The normies paying attention saw that coming and are now rewarding Dutton in the polling.
The LNP is the only party with a cost-of-living policy. The Liars will fight the next election trying to entrench unaffordable energy, which is making the green carpetbaggers rich.
The Liars are trying to govern by forcing unpopular ideology down the punters’ throats. It’s a losing proposition.
mUnty’s strawmen should carry a fire warning.
The lines from Muja (CollieWA) are actually a bottleneck to development. New smelters or mines in the Goldfields can’t just tap the power lines because existing capacity is already committed.
A nuke generator at Broad Arrow or New Celebration would be very handy.
All of those items are things that Bruce has said. I mean, if you want to disown him I would understand because he’s a bit of a nonce.
The power stations announced today will never be built, because legislation to overturn state bans will never get through the Senate.
Discussing them is just a massive waste of time, designed to enable Dutton to avoid scrutiny for his abandonment of any hope of regaining government in the next two or three electoral cycles. Hopeless and leaderless, as Steggall rightly points out.
Monts, I think you just Jonesed the election for Laboor. Thank you!
You’re calling Bruce a paedophile? That is actionable defamation and I strongly suggest you retract.
No, I am not.
You may wish to look up the definition of ‘nonce’, m0nty.
Bit of a laugh considering you were having a dig at Bruce for being loose with his words. Oops.
ABC delivering all the news that’s fit to print. What a bunch of c***s:
Getting to know ‘normal’ labia as interest in labiaplasty grows among young people
People?
People with a vulva? Ffs.
And that’s just the men.
I wish I could mock this – but it is appalling and is a gauge of the level of darkness to which we have descended. People have completely lost sight of normal life.
No the poisonous, evil degenerates that are the ABC have.
Mine looks fine – apart from the fact it looks like a willie.
Free labiaplasty for gay men now!!!
Sounds like a slogan.
Plus this.
NYC Council Pushes IVF Coverage for Gay Men (Newsmax, 18 Jun)
I was amused by this one, it reminded me of John Cleese telling Eric Idle that he couldn’t have babies because he didn’t have a womb. No way could that movie be made today!
That’s why comedy that makes people laugh has become so scarce: the entertainment industry is now religiously committed to a political ideology that regards humour as a mortal enemy.
Cats: you can build nuke plants from scratch in five years
Japan: We can do it in four.?
We are not in Japan, you pillock.
If conservatives are so pragmatic why are they cheering Dutton on when he hasn’t mentioned costs? Not an isolated example. An explanation.
Georgia nuclear rebirth arrives 7 years late, $17B over cost | AP News
The Chinese can also.
And before you pipe up Monty, I hope you are up to date with your Mandarin lessons. You can never tell when you might need them.
I have a mandarin tree in the backyard – it’ll do in a pinch, I suppose.
Port Augusta is producing “green” cement.
Now I’ve heard it all.
Mainland Tasmania. Where your tax dollars go to die.
Portagutta, please Farmer Gez. You must use its Aboriginal name.
I believe that the malaise that affects Oz is being simultaneously felt in most western nations – something that should be the basis of discussion amongst all of us. This is from a guest commentary in Cory Bernadi’s newsletter:
“Unkind critics used to say I had to visit Scotland for re-training after reportedly buying 2 beers in the same month. Reverting back to my pre-covid work routine of visiting Scotland and several other countries over several weeks, now on the final leg back to Queensland, I can report back observations from a simple sailor on the state of several nations.
My pal O’Brien, a long term critic of bloated western governments had just arrived back a month earlier from a multi nation trip and advised me that all UK and US government departments had trebled in size, not at the coal face such as needed in hospitals, but in administration and creation of rules, regulations and fees. He had observed most of the new recruits were women, and, he assured me, if they were overweight, toothless and tattooed that seemed to secure them the job. He added that piercings and a bad attitude seemed to get them bonus points.
So it came as no surprise coming through security at New York airport, I was pulled up sharply by a “chubby” African American security lady after the scanning machine had done its thing.
“Ah told you” she said loudly, putting her closed fists on her hips, elbows wide out exaggerating her already considerable girth, “That you had to empty your pockets !” and pointing to the x-ray image that clearly showed a plastic comb in my trouser front pocket.
“So what is that ?” she demanded, smirking happily that she had a dopey looking white guy being publicly embarrassed under her absolute control.
Doing my best Forrest Gump stance, leaning over, squinting my eyes and peering into the offending object on the x-ray, I responded. “Ah do believe that is an erection !”
“Supervisor !, Supervisor !” she yelled “Ahm bein’ harassed here !”
The supervisor came over, rolling his eyes “What is it this time Mary Jo?”.
Within a minute he waved me on. Luckily it was a male supervisor or I could very well have been in a New York court alongside Donald on trumped up charges of sexual harassment.
My friends in New York had told me, as did my Uber drivers, that the US legal system was stuffed, the economy was stuffed, and the illegal migration numbers were out of control. The approaching election was seen as a bright turning point.
Unanimously, they agreed that the New York based UN, was the epicentre of the covid madness, climate alarmism and another rapidly expanding bureaucracy with their new thought bubbles of spreading fear and controlling the great unwashed masses.
Next stop was Scotland and in meetings in the Orkney Islands and Glasgow with industry colleagues and relatives, the story was the same. The faltering Scottish National Party (SNP) Government clearly on the way out after 17 years of abject failure in every policy area. As a fan of their propaganda many years ago and seeing them drop the opportunity of revitalising shipbuilding, this was disappointing.
The SNP obsession with climate change directives, LGBT, too many migrants and waiting lists for everything, even the hospitals prioritising illegal migrants before locals, showed their lack of prioritising the needs of their taxpayers.
Visiting both Irelands the story was the same story, too many people, too many migrants flooding in and waiting queues for everything.
England was exactly the same, bloated bureaucracies with many working from home (WFH) with its corresponding miserable productivity.
But hey! London central is now the centre for protesting students. Yes it is a trendy place for students to live, protest and perhaps a bit of long term study if someone is paying the bills.
Yes, in my younger days in London I went along with “Ban the Bomb”, but Palestine ?? In summary there is a gloom in US and UK that convinces me that they are stuck in post Covid 2nd gear economically each with a depressed and disappointed population.
A fresh and vibrant Batam in Indonesia was a pleasant change on the way home. The 85 shipyards and a huge engineering infrastructure on that little island pumping out world class products is impressive. But again they don’t have Over The Top (OTT) militant unions, OTT green laws, OTT health and safety regulations but they do have cheap and abundant coal and gas energy.
They also do have leadership that are focussed on the needs and wishes of the people.
But the refreshing success prize goes to Singapore, almost 6 million on this small island and they are so well organised.
With no natural resources this trading nation is impressive from the time the plane door opens to any aspect of doing business, dining out or tourism. Even their local female population are dressed well, walk well, talk well without profanities and no sign of tattoos or piercings. Call me old fashioned, but I love that in a woman !Harsh penalties for hate speech and the death penalty for a range of 33 crimes, and compulsory National Service keeps the locals in line. Australia could and should copy this success !
Singapore compared to Australia is like comparing Singapore Airlines with Qantas. There actually is no comparison as Singapore Airlines is almost faultless in every aspect of their terminals, planes, cabin staff, food it is indeed enjoyment to travel with them. On the other hand, Qantas, thanks to Alan Joyce sweating the assets and focussing on his personal campaigns pursuing 4% of the population via the LGBT gang instead of making a good airline great, has totally lost it.
For me, they have turned enjoyment into endurement and despite being a Qantas Platinum member, I cannot hang around for years until they refleet and drag the staff up to Singapore Airline standards. Yes the Chairman’s lounge might be ok, but you would have to tolerate the extended Albanese family.
Australia is languishing poorly also with WFH abysmal productivity and a leadership that is focussed on the needs and wishes of the bedwetters at the UN and bullies of the Union movement.
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Thus endeth my trip report, the west is waste deep in self made treacle !. No need to go there, buy and boat and go sailing.”
mUntyfa
The fat fascist fool finally acknowledges the politics at work.
Red tape, Green tape and Black tape will be deployed as weapons to ensure the destruction of Australia’s reliable energy.
Nuclear is today’s target, but the same weapons will be used against coal and gas.
But when extended blackouts become daily events, sensible people will be left to try to restore power. mUntyfa will not be one of those sensible people, but his screeching for the restoration of reliable electricity will be audible beyond Uranus.
June 19, 2024 1:49 pm
Reply to m0nty
Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
I think Rabz mocked that best (h/t Cassie).
btw, green concrete is uncured therefore useless.
I’m at a loss to know why nuclear power plants can’t be sited in the same place as mothballed coal stations. Isolated, grid-to-door, water supply handy.
The nightie tearing over “safety” is a furphy.
Because the power companies own the land and they have other plans.
Sure, the government could seize it. Is that what you want?
Driving around Spain (and France) – oh look over there *points*. What’s that building?
Nuclear plant. The grid system is a dead giveaway. Farmland, villages all around.
The locals appear to be quite normal. Maybe because they don’t fear their power bills and thus have not developed a nervous tick.
Yes, it is.
‘Is This In Fact A Bioweapon?’: Roger Marshall Grills Doctor About COVID-19 Origins
Rosie
June 19, 2024 12:41 pm
Well, they say they want to “lower their footprint”.
But do they really?
Example.
For some reason I am getting lots of posts for “tiny houses” on my Soshul Meeja. These are things about the size of a medium caravan without the benefits of mobility.
The impressionable Gen Loons oooh and ah over them, saying they would love to live that way and reduce their impact on Gaia. Inevitably some spoil-sport points out the cat swinging issues and the lack of storage for even day-to-day items … like the clothes your aren’t wearing right then and there.
Same with electricity. They say “sacrifices might need to be made”, but the screams when the power is off and the i-phone is on 4% will be heard on the International Space Station.
Sancho,
a lot of the “Tiny House”, companies have gone bust. Along with the “Tiny”, prices the mugs paid for them. Lol.
Labour’s tax plans EXPOSED which could see families bills DOUBLE: ‘They’re coming for your savings!’
Biden should REPLACE Kamala Harris on the ballot with Hillary Clinton, Washington Post columnist claims
Hmmmm. Dumping a Woman of Colour for a white has-been will really help Creepy Joe to stop the drift of blacks to Trump.
And Dr Jill will be very conscious of the threat of Arkancide, not only to Creepy Joe, but more important, to her.
This Is Why China Hasn’t Cracked Down on Fentanyl Precursors
Chinese secret police organizing illegal immigrant border surges, too
Lawfare: Now they’re coming for Musk
“Biden Wants to Be The President for Illegal Aliens” – Trump Reacts to Biden’s Mass Amnesty, Shows Crowd in Racine, WI Graph of Illegal Immigration EXPLODING Immediately After Leaving Office
Officials: Illegal Alien, Deported 16 Times, Killed 64-Year-Old Colorado Man
Why would gay men want labiaplasty?
Is the ABC now also getting confused by the whirling poker machine reels of gender theory?
Earlier:
Well, they are a bit boxy to look at. Generally uninspiring as well, aside from of the rally models. But then, the Swedish have always been a bit of a coin flip with making this sort of stuff.
What? Oh. Oh, right. Vulva.
Forget I said anything.
Laughing, laughing…
I adore you, KD.
Paging Mr. Liability Bob. Liability Bob to the white phone in the lobby, please.
Weirdly there seems to be a direct 1:1 correlation between Dutton’s proposed sites and Gaia’s hated coal fired power plants.
I don’t know how you do that Calli, it’s genius!
I’m slightly sad that he hasn’t proposed Munmorah power station site, which is not far from Eraring.
Bruce, please see replies to my comment made at 4:11PM today. m0nty has said something about you that goes well beyond the ordinary rough and tumble of this site’s comments. You should seek a retraction at minimum.
OCO – I don’t take it as that. I doubt he knows what the Urban Dictionary is.
I’ve had trolls seriously try that on, They get very frustrated when rational argument and data falsify their position and it sometimes gets unpleasant. Sinc banned one, one midnight when he went that way. Monty is not that dumb. Ignorant, clueless, misguided and unpleasant, but not that.
Well, never let it be said you’re not a good sport, Bruce. Many would not extend such grace when it comes to that particular slur.
You have to laugh – m0nts was essentially calling you out for what he depicted as careless, inaccurate words. And then he goes and writes that. Quite a rake, I’d say!
The fear and panic among the lefturds today are palpable.
It has been full court lies, all day, in a desperate attempt to regain control of the “narrative”. AnAl must be aware that a couple of major blackouts before the election, and the Liars are finished.
This
WTF does SKY have these fuking token lefties on. Justin Smith on Kenny attempting to talk over the wonderful Liz Storer about Dutto’s nuclear plan and sounding and looking like the retard he is. Admittedly he does have a good closing line saying if Dutto’s plan works he, smith, will stuff plutonium up his arse. Obviously something he is very familiar with.
Justin Smith is an armchair revolutionary radical who made his name as Neil Mitchell’s producer at 3AW — one of his specialities being making Mitchell an each-way equiivicator who played his audience for idiots and stood for nothing.
Not surprisingly, Smith sounds like the persona he tried to create for Mitchell — except Smith takes the side of the radicals because it’s fashionable and for lefties being unfashionable is a fate worse than death.
Lisa Wilkinson appeals improper conduct finding from Bruce Lehrmann defamation trial
By stephen rice
and ellie dudley
Lisa Wilkinson has sensationally lodged an appeal against Justice Michael Lee’s finding that her conduct in the Brittany Higgins story was improper and unjustifiable, claiming the judge made more than 50 errors in Bruce Lehrmann’s failed defamation case against her and Network Ten.
In a notice of contention filed with the Federal Court on Wednesday Ms Wilkinson claims Justice Lee made multiple errors both in his findings about her conduct and about the rape of Ms Higgins by Mr Lehrmann.
In April, following a trial believed to have cost at least $10m, Justice Lee found that, on the balance of probabilities Mr Lehrmann had raped Ms Higgins in Parliament House in 2019.
However, he also found that Ten and Ms Wilkinson had failed in their defence of qualified privilege – that is, that they had failed to act fairly and reasonably in the preparation and aftermath of the story.
The judge declared that The Project’s former star presenter had demonstrated “a lack of candour” in the witness box and was highly critical of the program’s suggestion that the rape had been the subject of cover-up, hushed up to avoid a political scandal in the lead-up to a federal election.
Ms Wilkinson’s surprise appeal is in stark contrast to her declaration outside the court after the verdict that she hoped the judgment “gives strength to women around the country”.
In the notice of contention filed by her barrister, top defamation silk Sue Chrysanthou SC, Ms Wilkinson says that while Justice Lee correctly found that the defence of justification (or truth) had been made out, he should have also made findings that Mr Lehrmann “had knowledge” of Ms Higgins’ lack of consent.
In his judgment Justice Lee simply found that Mr Lehrmann was “indifferent” to her consenting.
Ms Wilkinson also claims that Justice Lee should have upheld her defence of qualified privilege and had “erred generally in taking account into matters outside the scope of the relevant inquiry”.
Ms Wilkinson said the judge had erred in rejecting testimony from her that was unchallenged and that supported the reasonableness of her conduct, including the fact that she had relied upon trusted producers and lawyers.
Justice Lee had failed to give sufficient weight to her “unchallenged experience with sexual assault survivors”; her knowledge that Ms Higgins had made contemporaneous complaints about a sexual assault; and that she believed Mr Lehrmann had been given sufficient opportunity to respond to the allegations before they were broadcast on The Project.
Ms Wilkinson claimed Justice Lee had erred in making findings about the “bruise photo” – a photograph of a bruise on her leg that Ms Higgins had at first claimed was evidence of the rape but later acknowledged could have been the result of a fall.
Justice Lee had “failed to have regard to Ms Wilkinson’s evidence that she had further discussions about the reliability of the ‘bruise photo’ and was informed that the issue had been addressed”.
Going back for her bandana?
Probably can’t let that stand while Brittany gets mauled in the WA Supreme Court. Liar fingerprints?
oh the burn!
nice one
But it was never meant to be a realistic policy. Just a figleaf for the coal barons.
I wish I could believe the coal barons, whoever they are, had that much intelligence.
The “coal barons”, IIRC, include Cannon-Balls.
Almost one quarter of people aged 18 to 24 feel anxious or embarrassed about the way their vulva looks
The vulva is one of Nature’s marvels; up there with a leopard’s tail and a peacock’s strut.
Almost one quarter of people? Given that only women possess said organ I find this statement rather bizarre! As for the rest, can’t be bothered as it is intended to get click bait.
What about the cute owls then?
We can’t see their vulvas, HBB. Well most of them, anyway.
And WTF is Josh Burns, a Jew just subject to an act of terrorism, still doing in the liars. Any Jew in the liars or the filth has their head up their arse. Burns should resign immediately and continue as an independent; after all it was the liars who facilitated this bullshit by the palli’s and their brain dead supporters.
I’d give the trannies a wack with the axe. No anaesthetic needed, well maybe a few malts to get my eye in.
Senator Antic
The Media Let Us Down
If you’re looking for an apology, Mr Antic, you won’t get one.
Why?
Because bureaucratic arrogance, that’s why.
We don’t matter and they don’t give a shit about us or our representatives. Those who have been watching the last couple of weeks with these bastards in the senate hearings have noticed.
“I’ll take that on notice” was the most common reply from the very people who claim expertise in their departments.
CARE HOME MASSACRE | Jeane Freeman | Scottish Health Secretary | COVID-19 Inquiry
It’s exactly as he says.
Watch Host’s Head Explode When Javier Milei Says What No Politician Will Admit
The ABC is an evil, parasitic, nation wrecking cultural marxist abomination. I hate it with a passion. There may have been need for it in 1932 but not now. Even back when I was a teenager, I remember the poisonous muck served up by Four Corners, Nationwide and The ‘Science’ Show. Yuck.
All shoulders to the water cooler now.
But, but, I was an Argonaut.
Are you telling me that the ABC would have misled a child?
So was I!
I want to bear children.
Magnificent, yet effortless defenstration of the mUnter today, here on the Cat.
*applause*
It’s like clubbing a baby seal.
That keeps popping up like one of those blowup punching clowns.
I thought “defenestration” was the word used to describe the fate of the King of England, who died with a red hot poker shoved up his clacker?
No ill-wishing our friend and neighbour!
The actual victims of the most famous defenestration in history landed in a ten-foot pile of horseshit below the Palace in Prague, and survived. It would be hard to tell the difference from the heaped product, so it seems really fitting for the Monts to follow out that way.
He is sent here, rather than a wider forum, because even the lefturds realise that he is utterly hopeless.
He really is, the Eustace Scrubb of the Cat.
Unfortunately, there is no Dragon metamorphosis in his future to give him his “Damascene” conversion.
Lisa Wilkinson appeals improper conduct finding from Bruce Lehrmann defamation trial.
Fantastic, there I was bored with the world today, and this drops!
What an ego our Lisa has and deep pockets too, she can’t offset the cost of this very far.
The Brittany Blob rolls on. It’s unstoppable.
Is this Season 2, already?
Brains! BRAAAAINS!
Who is going back for whose hat this time? Wilkinson’s clearly got money to burn – and one extremely large and well-bruised ego that needs salving. However, assuming leave to appeal is granted, the appellate court is almost certainly going to chuck it out and rule that the primary judge was open to draw the conclusions he did about Wilkinson’s credibility based on her testimony. They won’t disturb a verdict on that basis alone. There has to be some error in law.
Lisa, you established a defence. Take the W.
With that said, it is unusual for a truth defence to succeed and a qualified privilege defence to fail. I expect that is why she is splitting hairs about the distinction between Lehrmann being indifferent to Bullshittany’s consent and having actual knowledge of her lack of consent.
Lots of the judgment doesn’t really hang together. Over to the full Federal Court or does it go straight to the High Court?
Full Court, assuming leave is granted to appeal, which is far from a sure thing if the appeal is based on Lee J’s findings of witness credibility as described in the article. That’s a finding of fact and is extremely difficult to appeal successfully. It’s in the same category as appealing a jury verdict because they got it wrong. The standard to overturn is very high – the decision must be ‘plainly wrong’ or somesuch.
It isn’t enough for the appellate judges to conclude that they would have reached a different conclusion, as it is highly significant that the primary trier of fact (judge or jury) was able to observe the demeanour of the witness, whereas the appellate judges can only go on the transcript of the witness testimony.
For the appeal to get up on this ground, the appellate court has to find that the transcript supports the appellant’s position AND that the primary judge either did not have the advantage of observing the appellant’s demeanour OR made improper use of this advantage. In short, if this is what the appeal is limited to, Lisa’s got buckley’s.
Thanks. Appeals are tough work. But obviously not impossible. Stay tuned I guess.
Mrs Bandana must figure if she is ever going to work as a j’ismist again (a fair assumption) she can’t have this hanging over her. Plus some legal niceties.
Another Zoe.
McKenzie. Uniparty princess. Unbelievable performance on Sky. “It’s all so beautiful and the administrative state are all so reasonable, and pay rises for parasites are entirely justified”.
Big gov rules OK.
Destroy the LNP.
Zoe = female Malcolm
It’s a mistake to think that every individual has both the capacity and willingness to learn. It’s even more complex when we expect the same learning from an organisation.
It’s not a question of how many ‘second chances’ the LNP been given, and how many more do they deserve, but rather ‘What do WE deserve?’ THEY are meant to serve US. Do we deserve better? If in the affirmative, then WE must make that change.
An alternative to the LNP must be grown from seed, but that seed will never flourish if it is shaded by the LNP. The time for radical gardening is long overdue. Rip up the LNP, roots and all. We’ll have bare dirt for a while, but if we keep[ expecting instant gratification, we’ll always be disappointed.
Dare I say it?
I am very, very concerned that the owners of wind and solar generation operations may end up with … what’s the phrase … ah, yes … stranded assets.
Wot, you mean the nations super funds are a tiny bit concerned about stranded assets? Unlikely, all they have to do is get the govt to back the losses, easy peasy.
Which is what they will do as most of the officials of super funds are former Labor politicians.
The more stranded the better.
On Mars, if possible.
Only people still playing are those who think they can exploit the potential political gaming.
Pogria
June 19, 2024 6:42 pm
Reply to Sancho Panzer
Sancho,
It is also a planning minefield. I know some in the UK are on leased land and have to be mobile. That is, they have to be moved off the land every few months or so.
Yes Sancho,
no forethought given to permission to place the “basically a caravan’, on a bit of land. Even if they have the landowners say-so.
Idiots.
Good for you!
My FIL is one of the people I most admire, one who quietly earned his gong doing good works at the top of his profession.
He also watches ABCTV.
This weekend he was quizzing me about my political views, at the family table. I had touched on Michael Trumble, been asked what I objected to and responded par exemple that he funded the establishment of the Guardian in Australia.
Just then squeals from behind me; Miss 4, his great-granddaughter had started opening his birthday present to her!
“THIS is what is important!”, I said.
Saved!
Cute owls have been compared to vulvas. You be the judge: cute owl.
Here’s better, cohenite!
You can tell text was written by a millennial with the attention span of a goldfish on meth, but the images are worthy.
Alby Mangels knew the value of short shorts. And the potential drawbacks.
Testing?
As a people, I assert I am neither anxious nor embarrassed about the way my vulva looks.
Women may feel otherwise.
As a kid, I loved scraping the marshmallow off iced vulvas and leaving the biscuit. Ah, memories.
Women people as opposed to people people definitely have vulvas and we know them intimately. Most of us find them perfectly acceptable parts of us, providing by appearance neither anxiety nor embarrassment. Perhaps any people people who were in that survey and who have vulvas, have imitation ones, which simply can’t compare (ugh!), and so skew the results. Women people also tend to think that our vulvas are much more comfortable to sit on than what men people must endure in the nether regions, and which for men people results in all of that adjusting and scratching.
m0nty
June 19, 2024 3:16 pm
The only reason this discussion has to be had is because your lot of gullible, ideological, grifting nut jobs have been in control of everything for way too long. Way too long.
In terms of sovereign risk to private equity for these projects… I’m not sure a scale has been invented that conveys the magnitude.
FFS, imagine a place under constant threat of being one election away from being run by a clone army of Monty’s?
The Libs had over a decade in office to something, anything, about introducing nukes. They did nothing. That is all you need to know about the seriousness level of this policy, which is nil.
Shorter mUntyfa:
As it was fifteen years ago, as it is now, as it will ever be.
Awomwn.
Far right questionnaire time.
LOL apparently I am: a far-Right, bigoted, hate-filled, genocidal, transphobic Zionist. You are literally Hotler.
https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2024/06/take_the_far_right_test.html
Telegraph is paywalled so I’ve linked Kiwiblogs cut & paste.
I answered ‘D’ to every question, plus another four that weren’t in the questionnaire, which makes me ROtS (Right-Off-the-Scale). I’m driving to AZIO HQ to hand myself in as I write this. Despite the long drive from Qld, I’ve shackled my feet and handcuffed myself as a precaution.
lol, Muddy.
What a public spirited fellow you are.
Have touched down in Tunisia, and spent the first night in an old hotel – The Majestic – in the middle of town. Great old architecture, and French is understood as well as English.
Then again, the city reminds me of Kuwait, covered in sand dust.
Off to Carthage to check out what happens if you get uppity to the Romans.
The World’s most beautiful women
Haven’t seen any yet!
Except for Mrs TE of course. Naturally you mean locals. They probably bag up and mask the beautiful ones these days.
I think we shall have to put Carthage on the list.
Look forward to your views on how much salt has washed away by now.
cohenite
June 19, 2024 7:46 pm
These persons have vulvas?
Very fit ones.
They may have vulvas. But they all have surgically enhanced boobies.
You simply do not get to keep oestrogenic flesh to that extent while you push your female endocrine system to its limits with body building and, likely, some testosterone shots or supplements. Their other female organs, such as the vulva, may also be oestrogen-deprived and somewhat hence shrivelled.
I am quite happy with my vulvas thank you very much.
polygamy?
Almost one quarter of people aged 18 to 24 feel anxious or embarrassed about the way their vulva looks…
I’m not making any smart arse comments on this.
My lips are sealed.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=r3kQlzOi27M
Bushie, that is reminiscent of some Islamic forms of butchery on women.
But it still made me snort into my morning cuppa. lol.
I’ve heard of navel gazing but vulva gazing?
That’s a new one, obviously gen whatever is very limber.
I believe it’s a variation on the selfie.
When I was young I didn’t know what other vulvas looked like so I was unconcerned about mine and am still not concerned about it.
I’m not a gynaecologist but I’ll take a look at it for you.
It’s a big thing, when you look into it
The GAE moves its pieces. RTWT.
Meat-cleaver wielding man, 37, who broke into a woman’s apartment and raped her is found not guilty because he thought he was in a video game
Daily Mail. We have reached peak stupidity.
Victims have no place in the ‘justice’ (justapplyice) system.
Brought into the country to terrorise Australians, and doing a great job of it.
This shit will only stop when they start raping and pillaging through the Teal and Green suburbs. Meanwhile we cop the rough end of the pineapple.
We could call it a colour revolution.
There were some great innovations that were always just a few minutes behind others.
All that effort and resources wasted in a way.
Just watched an excellent 10 part Netflix series (Spanish with subs) .. COCAINE COAST (Spanish title FARIDA) .. the rise & fall of the Spanish version of Pablo Escobar .. very well dun and if you liked Al Pacino’s SCARFACE you’ll enjoy this one ….. 10/10
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt6970710/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0_tt_8_nm_0_q_cocaine%2520coast
You are joking, no?
That is beyond insane even for a council.
Not really.
They don’t have (and won’t get) permits for permanent housing, so they register them as mobile dwellings to avoid planning costs.
It also enables them to put them on cheaper land (not zoned residential).
The catch is, having registered them as “mobile” you have to demonstrate that they can be moved.
No biggie. Just make them liftable onto the back of a truck once plumbing is disconnected. Good idea to be able to move them around anyway.
All Dutton has to do is remove all subsidies for ruinables and let the money flow where it will.
Big Twig and Big Biz will exit the trough like a shower of goose pebbles as my Dad used to say!
That would shrink the pool of post-politics big-money employment options. No good.
‘Is This In Fact A Bioweapon?’: Roger Marshall Grills Doctor About COVID-19 Origins
forbes
covid was modified to evade the immune system and suppress immune response
I just got hit with a bank KYC. know your customer.
they say they want to verify your details, but they also ask where your income comes from and how did you get your assets
fact check fascism on steroids: TRUE
I’m seeing reports from quite a few people getting this, including me. Same Qs, snd if you don’t respond, access to accounts is suspended.
The one I got said it was information that Canberra required the bank to collect. Not sure what the legislation is that brought this on, and saw nothing in the news about it.
China on Track to Lose 15,000 Millionaires in 2024: Report | China in Focus
Wilson / Chen debate:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xEhg2be_5s
A KYC request is quite incendiary & very offensive.
Satisfactory responses to all those questions must be provided for every signatory on your accounts.
.. or else they freeze all your bank accounts.
I’ve a feeling that either Turncoat or Slomo is responsible.
Tucker Carlson is in the country for Palmers road show. However seems they have had to reduce the cost by half as not getting the numbers to fill the venues.
One thing I would like to see Tucker do is interview Dr Melissa McCann for his podcast. About her Covid injury class action v Federal Government.
Fat Clive’s electoral schtick is wearing thin. His lasting contribution to Australian politics is Jacqui Jacqui. Perhaps he should be the one sitting it out?
What the hell is it with Australian TV advertisement casting?
Everyone is either a slob, or a knob, or both a slob and a knob. Even the nominally “pretty” chicks are compelled to signal how they’re actually massive dags.
Oh for the aspirational ads of the 90’s. Men were well kept, women held themselves to high esteem, there were people on the telly who you wanted to be.
And the scripts were witty and concise, not the rolling wah-wah-waaaahs of the “we’re massive dags, you’re all massive dags too, hey let’s all be massive dags together at this bank/car dealership/takeaway” narrative.
You can turn your TV off, you know.
Originally art was to uplift and stories were to learn about ethical behavior. Now art is ugliness and stories are a victim’s perception. There is an interesting story in the Oz today about “Early aid is key to stopping maths fail” : a wonderful cascade of cliches. They tumble over each other. First establish a ‘crisis’, preferably in the future, then a ‘failure cycle’, then a solution that is centralised and funded. It is a template for anything. Climate, food, chickens… It is a version of ‘dad’ll fix it’
Bloody hell .. went for my, usual, morning toddle (4kms not bad for 76 yrs old) at 5 this morning (usually go about 6 but woke early ..) and thought it was a bit chill-ish .. turns out it is down to 2C here in Fairfield NSW .. FFS
m0nty
June 19, 2024 8:33 pm
I’ll repeat my first sentence for your comprehension.
“The only reason this discussion has to be had is because your lot of gullible, ideological, grifting nut jobs have been in control of everything for way too long. Way too long.”
I am referring to BOTH colours on the political spectrum, the malignancy of the green (communist) ideology has seeped well into the LNP along with all the corruption.
The West needs Trump (or someone) to put a stop to this madness.
Anyway, it’s good to know you’re accumulating some properties, probably doing better than this humble Kulak who started with zip.
In fact you’ll probably be in front of me in line for the wall come the glorious revolution.
Steve Daines Confronts Tracy Stone-Manning About Her ‘Disastrous’ Record
forbes
Peter Dutton’s nuclear plans get an early thumbs up in rural electorates
[Unlinkable OZ]
Let the nuancing begin:
To paraphrase a great philosopher: We have plans; if you don’t like them, we have other plans.
Whether nuclear at dead power stations is the shot, or not, this ‘next election’ public debate plop is why Australia can’t have nice things without selling the country.
EMT and Gordon Corrigan’s monumental work on the Second World War.
“Despite the fact that they did not win the war from the air, Arthur Harris and the men of Bomber Command were in many ways the heroes of the British war effort. With only 7% of all British military manpower, Bomber Command suffered 24% of all British military deaths, and they got precious little thanks for it. Embarrassed by criticism of civilian deaths, the British Government pulled the carpet from under Harris and his men. There was a Burma Star and an African Star, an Atlantic Star and a Pacific Star, but there was no Bomber Offensive Star, and alone amongst the Commanders in Chief, Harris was not elevated to the peerage after the war.It was a disgraceful way to treat brave men. (Page 452.)
“But when extended blackouts become daily events, sensible people will be left to try to restore power.”
I hope you all realise this is a best case scenario – if the entire grid goes black (QLD, NSW and VIC – SA and TAS are just pimples on the arse of AEMO grid), it will be days or even weeks before it comes good.
If they load shed large areas early enough, they can prevent a total collapse, but I’m not confident this will get done, or that there is sufficient margin in the automated systems to prevent a grid collapse.
I sincerely hope I’m wrong, but I wouldn’t bet on being wrong.