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Steve trickler
Steve trickler
August 29, 2024 12:35 am

Classics.

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Peter Gabriel – Solsbury Hill (Live DNA)

This montage of live performances of Solsbury Hill includes footage from Rockpalast (1978), Live in Athens (1987), Secret World Live (1993), Growing Up Live (2003), New Blood Live (2011) and Back To Front (2013).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WeYqJxlSv-Y

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
August 29, 2024 12:59 am

I’d like to dedicate this thread to red meat, red wine and spuds of all creeds and colours.
Not sweet potatoes though. Damn satanic sham yams, not even worthy of the name.

Winston Smith
Winston Smith
August 29, 2024 11:17 am
Reply to  Wally Dalí

They do make a nice home made fried chip, but.

Top Ender
Top Ender
August 29, 2024 3:01 am

Aha from the Palace of Pena, atop a foggy hill in Sinatra, a 40 minute train ride from Lisbon.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
August 29, 2024 5:34 am
Reply to  Top Ender

You have certainly been getting around, TE.

mizaris
mizaris
August 29, 2024 9:05 am
Reply to  Top Ender

Sintra?

KevinM
KevinM
August 29, 2024 3:06 am

The other side of the Titanic story, not many talk about.
The enormous propulsion system and the poor men who serviced it.

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The Titanic had a total of 29 boilers, which were housed in six boiler rooms.

Out of these, 24 were double-ended, and 5 were single-ended boilers. The double-ended boilers were 20 feet long, with a diameter of 15 feet 9 inches, and contained six coal-burning furnaces each.

The single-ended boilers were 11 feet 9 inches long, with the same diameter, and had three furnaces.

The boilers were designed to generate steam at a working pressure of 215 pounds per square inch (psi).
The steam produced was used to drive the ship’s reciprocating engines and the low-pressure turbine, which together powered the Titanic’s three propellers.

The total heating surface of the boilers was 144,142 square feet, and they contained 159 furnaces in total. Each boiler weighed around 91.5 tons and could hold 48.5 tons of water.

The boilers required a significant amount of coal, with the Titanic’s coal bunkers having a capacity of 6,611 tons.
On a daily basis, over 600 tons of coal were shoveled into the furnaces by hand, a task performed by a large team of firemen and trimmers working in shifts.

The intense and demanding nature of the work in the boiler rooms highlighted the operational challenges faced by the engineering crew aboard the Titanic.

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Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
August 29, 2024 5:36 am
Reply to  KevinM

And some of those boiler men worked down there full tilt during the sinking of the Titanic. On turbines. To do with keeping the electric lights going? The went down with the ship.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 29, 2024 8:29 am

Keeping the pumps going for as long as they could, and , yes, from memory all of them went down with the ship.

bons
bons
August 29, 2024 7:21 am
Reply to  KevinM

The stokers and trimmers weren’t considered to be ‘crew ‘. They managed themselves, they had their own rat hole accomodation, and prepared their own food. They were not permitted on deck or effectively away from the stoke hold. They were a genuine invisible underclass.

shatterzzz
August 30, 2024 7:41 am
Reply to  bons

The privilege of “whiteness” if you didn’t belong to the “gentry” in pre- WW1 dayz you weren’t expected to be seen or heard “above stairs” .. LOL!

shatterzzz
August 30, 2024 7:38 am
Reply to  KevinM

My dad was a stoker in the merchant navy after de-mobb WW2 when I was a nipper .. coaled a few across the Atlantic before switching to oil-fired tankers mid 50s ……..
Luvved the sea & only came “ashore” after Mum died & us kids needed care .. Blamed us for years ………!
Our entire clan, males, were miners except for Dad …

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KevinM
KevinM
August 29, 2024 3:07 am

Not a bad idea. Keeps you mobile and occupied.

Rafiki
Rafiki
August 29, 2024 3:21 am
Reply to  KevinM

Perhaps the beds use the wicking device. if so, they’d be very productive.

shatterzzz
August 30, 2024 7:44 am
Reply to  KevinM

There’s a cerebral palsy centre not far from me that has this sort of set-up in the outside grassed surrounds ……..

KevinM
KevinM
August 29, 2024 3:09 am

Easy and convenient?

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Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
August 29, 2024 5:38 am
Reply to  KevinM

lol, that’s me at the ticket window there. I absolutely hate the ‘ease and convenience’ of modern computer life.

BobtheBoozer
BobtheBoozer
August 29, 2024 9:31 am

Yes. It’s only easy and convenient to those who have grown up with or been able to keep up with the current mania for technology.
I remember one of Isaac Asimov’s characters having a bit of a rave about the subject:
“You want a doorstop? Buy a robot with a big foot!”
…and may I just point out that the current woes with the US elections would not be capable with the electoral systems of the 60’s.

Tom
Tom
August 29, 2024 4:00 am
Tom
Tom
August 29, 2024 4:01 am
Tom
Tom
August 29, 2024 4:01 am
Tom
Tom
August 29, 2024 4:02 am
Tom
Tom
August 29, 2024 4:03 am
Tom
Tom
August 29, 2024 4:04 am
Tom
Tom
August 29, 2024 4:04 am
Tom
Tom
August 29, 2024 4:05 am
Tom
Tom
August 29, 2024 4:06 am
Tom
Tom
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Tom
Tom
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Tom
Tom
August 29, 2024 4:08 am
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
August 29, 2024 5:43 am
Reply to  Tom

‘Access denied to hotlinking’

Beertruk
August 29, 2024 7:30 am

Here you go Lizzie:

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KevinM
KevinM
August 29, 2024 4:50 am

BoN did you know about this, what are your thoughts?
I am interested in this sort of development but it totally escaped my notice.

The official arrival of NEXO coincides with the opening of Australia’s first public hydrogen refueling station, in Canberra

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
August 29, 2024 4:55 am

Thanks Tom.

KevinM
KevinM
August 29, 2024 4:57 am

KevinM
August 29, 2024 4:50 am

BoN did you know about this, what are your thoughts?

Forget it, only now realised it’s from 2021

Zatara
Zatara
August 29, 2024 5:22 am

Harris fabricates letter from Tucker Carlson, forges his signature on it, and posts it on the internet.

Kamala Harris Posts Letter Allegedly from ‘Tucker’ Promoting Gun Control

The Potemkin Candidate is getting desperate, and stupider than normal.

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Boambee John
Boambee John
August 29, 2024 7:53 am
Reply to  Zatara

Lying liar lying again.

News at seven.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
August 29, 2024 6:12 am

Barnaby takes on Matt Kean in a debate on energy today at the Bush Summit in Orange.
Kean is gunna get hurt bad.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
August 29, 2024 6:46 am
Reply to  Farmer Gez

Be interesting, Kean has probably never come up against someone like Barnaby. Short of the moderator running interference I can’t see Barnaby holding back.

Let the chicken kicking begin…

Beertruk
August 29, 2024 7:23 am
Reply to  Farmer Gez

Pour half a bottle of Bundy and a slab of Tooheys Draught into Barnaby and then let him loose on Kean.

Roger
Roger
August 29, 2024 8:05 am
Reply to  Farmer Gez

I’m confused…

Is this the Bananarby who supports Net Year Zero/2050?

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Barking Toad
Barking Toad
August 29, 2024 6:35 am

Bolt, in one of his better opinion tomes, puts on his hob nailed boots and gives the idiot Bowen a fair old kicking.

Oh no, he’s done it again.
So if Chris Bowen shows up at your business saying he’s come to help, slam the door.
In an Albanese government stuffed with dreamers and incompetents, Bowen is the most worrying.
The Energy and Climate Change Minister, a global warming extremist, has a track record of such extraordinary failures – I’ll list just some – that it’s astonishing he’s still there.
The damage he’s doing is immense.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
August 29, 2024 6:52 am

The official arrival of NEXO coincides with the opening of Australia’s first public hydrogen refueling station, in Canberra … Forget it, only now realised it’s from 2021

Kevin – I’ll make a comment though. The NEXO is a fuel cell car. That’s a dead end.

Although fuel cells are excellent the problem is the proton exchange fuel cells require platinum as a catalyst. So far no one has found a way to use a cheaper and more abundant catalyst despite fifty years of trying.

Platinum is so rare that as soon as you tried to produce a few million fuel cell cars the Pt price would go into orbit.

There’s another type of fuel cell – alkaline ones. They don’t need platinum. The catch is they get poisoned by CO2, so you can’t feed them air since the CO2 in that air would rapidly kill the fuel cell. No one has found an answer to that either despite the same half century of R&D.

Maybe there will be a breakthrough eventually. It’d be excellent if it could happen, especially if a fuel cell could be run off something like methanol. Then you could dispense with Li batteries and instead fuel up your phone – which would free us from the charging blues. Just carry a small bottle of methanol and you’d be able to go anywhere without ever losing phone contact.

Kneel
Kneel
August 29, 2024 12:13 pm

“Just carry a small bottle of methanol and you’d be able to go anywhere without ever losing phone contact.”

Can’t help thinking of Homer Simpson on ethanol fueled car being refilled – “One for me, one for the car; one for me…”
Sorry, it’s just the way my brain (doesn’t) works 🙂

Beertruk
August 29, 2024 6:56 am

I thought this was pretty good using the ‘indigninee’ context.

Warren Brown in today’s Tele:

Dreamtime
Cassie of Sydney
August 29, 2024 7:09 am

As I write there is no official opposition leader in the UK. The Tories are a mess and they are still yet to elect a leader.

Actually, as I write there is an opposition leader in the UK. His name is well known to us, that name being Nigel Farage. Yes, that’s the same far-right, neo-Nazi, fascist, white supremacist, racist Nigel Farage! The one and only Nigel Farage! Nigel Farage is now the UK opposition leader and because h’s not a spineless quisling Tory, he’s taking the ideological and political fight to Fuhrer Starmer, something the Tories, even if they had a leader, would no doubt fail to do.

There are countless examples of the UK Plod’s two tier policing, but here is further proof. Whilst on the campaign hustings back in June this year, a time which now seems like another century ago, pre-election, pre-Southport stabbings, pre-riots, pre-Starmer dictatorship, a young man threw concrete at a bus carrying Nigel Farage! Over the years, Farage has been frequently hit, milk-shaked etc. And the concrete incident? Well Farage was fortunate the concrete didn’t hit him or anyone else on the bus.

Of course some (and we know who they are) would chuckle, snigger and laugh at the idea of Nigel Farage being hit with concrete. But isn’t violence a serious crime? Well, silly me, it’s all about context and who’s on the receiving end of that violence! Ya see, assaulting Farage, or Tony Abbott, or Steve Scalise and others on the right, and even assaulting women who believe in biological reality, are now acceptable methods/tools of the left. And in two tier Britain, under Dictator Kier, attacking Nigel Farage with concrete will simply incur a suspended sentence whilst some white working class man or woman, who may have drunk too many beers and posted an unsavoury tweet, will end up having ten plod on his or her doorstep, quickly charged, quickly arrested and very quickly sentenced by a secret night court, all of which would make Lavrentiy Beria beam with pride.

At least Nigel Farage is throwing it back.

Throw cement at me, walk free.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a12ZcYQhpX4

Miltonf
Miltonf
August 29, 2024 8:14 am

Yes I saw that on Breitbart this morning. Contemptible, despicable and cowardly. The odious British establishment is obviously quite cool with violence.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
August 29, 2024 8:46 am

No different here Cassie. Look at how the opposition in Vic & Qld fell in line with the lockdowns. NSW allowed the premier to be pushed around by an unelected unhinged bint who still somehow has the job. Vic where I am today has still no oppo party, they do have a growing nice sounding aesthetically pleasant woman as their candidates though. Heretics like Deeming though, well enough said.

I won’t even start on my disappointed of Chrisifooli in my home state cept to say my local is a KAP member and likely to get my vote again in October.

Back to your thread, 2 tiered policing/judging, contrast the fact not one person arrested for defacing war memorials or cutting down statues to the Eurydice Dixon memorial defacement. They had the guy within 48hrs. They either think some don’t notice or they don’t care.

We don’t matter.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
August 29, 2024 7:23 am

Throwing cement powder is very dangerous. If it gets in your eyes you will be permanently blinded. Even wet cement is dangerous since it is highly alkaline. That the guy was let off is a complete travesty.

‘Two-Tier Justice’ — Farage Attacker Spared Jail Time After Throwing Cement at Brexit Leader (28 Aug)

Rohan
Rohan
August 29, 2024 1:05 pm

I’ll just add that cement powder pH when wet ranges between 12 and 13.8.

For those of you who don’t know, if the pH scale changes by 1, it’s a ten fold increase in either H+/OH- ion activity, and the pH scale ends at 14. pH of 7 is nuetral, like water.

This means that cement powder is in the same ballpark for corrosive activity as neat hydrochloric or sulphuric acid. Except it’s alkaline and not acidic.

This leftist scum should never see the outside of a jail cell for 5-10 years.

Eyrie
Eyrie
August 29, 2024 7:24 am

 Just carry a small bottle of methanol and you’d be able to go anywhere without ever losing phone contact.

Except getting on an airliner.
Fuel cells have been around for 150 years or so and still aren’t in everyday use. They are a dud technology.

Cassie of Sydney
August 29, 2024 7:24 am

And on the weekend, at the bacchanalian orgiastic ‘Notting Hill carnival’ in Londonistan, where people engaged in lewd sexual acts in broad daylight, where dozens of plod were assaulted, and where 5 people were stabbed, two seriously, there’s been silence from Fuhrer Starmer and SadIQ Khan.

Like something from a comic book, Great Britain is now Gotham Britain.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
August 29, 2024 8:52 am

Commenter at C.L. has the stats on the arrests.

Eye opening to say the least.

Black Ball
Black Ball
August 29, 2024 7:30 am

Albo must have given her the tap on the shoulder. Herald Sun:

Premier Jacinta Allan has slammed federal Opposition Leader Peter Dutton over his call to ban all Gazan refugees, saying “if now is not the time to show compassion to all who want to seek refuge here, then when is?”

In a fiery speech delivered at the Victorian Multicultural Gala Dinner in Geelong on Saturday night, Ms Allan took aim at the Coalition leader for urging the government to block the visas of Gazan refugees amid the ongoing war in the Middle East.

Mr Dutton earlier this month said it was not in Australia’s “best interest” to allow Palestinian refugees to come to Australia in the current climate.

“You bring 3000 people in, let’s say 99 per cent are good,” he said.

“If one per cent, 30 people, are questionable or sympathisers with a listed terrorist organisation, how on earth is that in our country’s best interests?”

Perfectly reasonable request. But not to Ms Allan:

Ms Allan said the “hurtful” comments had made her “deeply uncomfortable” as she welcomed more Palestinian refugees to Victoria.

“I’m also prepared to call out hurtful words – hurtful words like we heard recently, disappointingly, from the Federal Opposition Leader who said that families fleeing Palestine weren’t fit to come here, saying that our society could be at risk simply because they had sought refuge here,” she said.

“I have to say, those remarks shocked me. They shocked me, and they made me deeply uncomfortable.”

FMD only a matter of time before some bad shit happens.
A quick check is that as of May, of the 153 detainees released by the High Court, 28 have reoffended. Which include hanging around schools and of course the horrible bashing of the elderly lady in Western Australia.
Now if Pesutto had two functional synapses, he would be asking Ms Allan how many of those 153 people are in Victoria and how many have reoffended. Like Tehan has done over the last couple of weeks.
That remains to be seen however.

Winston Smith
Winston Smith
August 29, 2024 11:33 am
Reply to  Black Ball

 “if now is not the time to show compassion to all who want to seek refuge here, then when is?”

How about when they get taken in by their own people?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
August 29, 2024 7:34 am

Premier Jacinta Allan has slammed federal Opposition Leader Peter Dutton over his call to ban all Gazan refugees, saying “if now is not the time to show compassion to all who want to seek refuge here, then when is?”

Maybe my memory is going but I can’t recall Labor showing compassion to all the Nazis who wanted to seek refuge here after 1945.

Boambee John
Boambee John
August 29, 2024 8:04 am

And 50 years later, they spent millions tracking down and prosecuting any who were still alive and could be found.

Then there were the Vietnamese refugees of the 1970s/1980s. What were the “charitable” words of the great Gough? Oh, yes, “Fvcking Vietnamese Balts”.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
August 29, 2024 7:46 am

Conspiracy theories are still turning into objective truth at an increasing rate.

Bug Diets, Once Labeled ‘Conspiracy Theory’ By MSM, Now Becomes Fact After UK Gov’t Backs ‘Sustainable’ Food (29 Aug)

Earlier this year, NPR’s Code Switch, Gene Demby and NPR reporter Huo Jingnan discussed, “The conspiracy theory alleges that a shadowy global elite conspires to control the world’s population, in part by forcing them to eat insects.” 

Well, do we have news for them…  

Well OK food in the UK is notorious, so maybe insects would actually improve it.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
August 29, 2024 7:47 am

Zulu, you awake yet?
Are you able to cut&paste the Oz article about the listed marijuana farm?

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 29, 2024 8:24 am
Reply to  Wally Dalí

Cut and pasted the article, only to be advised it was awaiting approval.

Bungonia Bee
Bungonia Bee
August 29, 2024 7:57 am

AEMO warns of blackouts coming!
We told them this years ago, but we are –
Governed By Idiots & Ideologues!!!!!

Rufus T Firefly
Rufus T Firefly
August 29, 2024 9:41 am
Reply to  Bungonia Bee

You forgot: “dangerous, vile, corrupt, dishonourable, self aggrandising, mendacious and egregious”.

Winston Smith
Winston Smith
August 29, 2024 11:35 am
Reply to  Bungonia Bee

Oh, Noes! Blackouts predicted by the AEMO?
Why has no one warned us of this possibility?
🙂

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
August 29, 2024 8:00 am

Podcast of the Lotus Eaters had the excellent Dan on, reporting how the U.S. jobs data was being wildly fabricated by the authorities under Biden-Harris. Even a respectable 2 million peoples’ worth of work- granted, many returning to jobs after the China Virus Lockdowns- was fellated up to 3.2 million.
This is what worries me about the rightful return of Trump- not only has there been a ridiculous blowout in the size of the minion class, not only do they effectively run the state by their sheer virus-load numbers in positions of admin and law, but so so very many of them are now so corrupted by their partisan actions that they’d be mad to let anyone in to muck out the stables. Not that I’d be interested in any amnesty or clemency, but I can only guess that if the Big Steal 2024 is overpowered or outmanouevred, there will be mass flight to Canada, desertions, grassing-up and outright suicide.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
August 29, 2024 8:01 am

Kamala Harris Posts Letter Allegedly from ‘Tucker’ Promoting Gun Control

I looked at the letter at the link. Hi Alanism through and through. The only thing missing was a dig at Trump for not only enjoying firing guns but also being hit.

In fairness though, apart from the first name, there is no definite connection to Tucker Carlson and I don’t think Cacles has explicitly claimed – they are just treating it as if it was from someone so famous.

They then let the lie travel half way around the world while truth is still fiddling with its fly.

Roger
Roger
August 29, 2024 8:01 am

Power planning on a wing and a prayer

Graham Lloyd, The Australian, 29 August, 2024

Australia’s energy transition is spluttering to an uncertain future. In its latest update, The Australian Energy Market Operator wants everyone to know the outlook has improved and things will be just fine. Except, that is, for anyone living in Victoria, NSW or South Australia, which could run short of power this summer…

And only if everything goes to plan, with promised projects delivered on time and in full, and putting to one side the question of cost…

What could possibly go wrong.

I left out the technical bit because all you need to know is that it boils down to governments delivering projects on time without major stuff ups.

Btw, how’s Florence going?

H B Bear
H B Bear
August 29, 2024 11:03 am
Reply to  Roger

Poor old AEMO. Imagine authoring these reports knowing one decent summer spell and it’s all over.

hzhousewife
hzhousewife
August 29, 2024 11:45 am
Reply to  H B Bear

The authors of those reports don’t have enough integrity to quit, they still have a mortgage and kids at school.

Winston Smith
Winston Smith
August 29, 2024 11:37 am
Reply to  Roger

Roger, I think she’s about to deliver an offspring.

Bungonia Bee
Bungonia Bee
August 29, 2024 8:02 am

“if now is not the time to show compassion to all who want to seek refuge here, then when is?”
All? Never.
Europe and the USA are showing what unlimited “immigration” looks like.
It’s a segment of the extreme left’s strategy to break down western civilisation, and Allan is part of it.
We already have plenty of evidence that too many unassimilables are here right now.
Another in the series:
We are Governed by Idiots and Ideologues.

bons
bons
August 29, 2024 8:06 am

So the SFL failure to submit LGA election nominations was not a ‘cockup’.

It was deliberate. Only LGA’s harbouring anti wind and solar sentiments were involved. No doubt organised by Keane.

Come on Dutton intervene FFS. The climate scam party is now more powerful than either Lib or Labor.

Jock
Jock
August 29, 2024 8:36 am
Reply to  bons

Bons, where is this info available.? Need it quick!

bons
bons
August 29, 2024 9:38 am
Reply to  bons

It was on Sky, I think Credlin, two nights ago. They showed a table of LGA’s that received nominations, and those that did not.

The ‘did nots’ were all those vulnerable to the scam.

I’ll search.

Jock
Jock
August 29, 2024 1:27 pm
Reply to  bons

Ta

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
August 29, 2024 8:11 am

Waiting for Adam Bandt and Tanya Pliebersek to condemn the Houthis for causing this environmental disaster…

Houthi-Bombed Greek Tanker Larger than Exxon Valdez Disaster Ship Spilling Oil into the Red Sea (28 Aug)

Winston Smith
Winston Smith
August 29, 2024 11:44 am

“Through these attacks, the Houthis have made clear they are willing to destroy the fishing industry and regional ecosystems that Yemenis and other communities in the region rely on for their livelihoods, just as they have undermined the delivery of vital humanitarian aid to the region through their reckless attacks,” the State Department said on Saturday.

The Houthis believe the feeding of their people isn’t a concern – the UN will do it – it’s their responsibility. Eerily similar to the statements from Hamas, who steal the aid as soon as it reaches the ports/terminals.
Which means that the Houthis, through their allies CNN/ABC etc will be showing endless film of more starving people and telling the world how heartless the West is, and the muslims will be the victims yet again.
Aren’t we getting sick of this song yet?

Cassie of Sydney
August 29, 2024 8:13 am

We are Governed by Idiots and Ideologues.

Ideologues…yes. Idiots…..no. They know what they’re doing.

calli
calli
August 29, 2024 8:16 am

Bons, it’s what I suspected, but do you have a link to go with that?

In my municipality we have a person campaigning solely on the “no wind farm” platform. That will get him over the line, at least in the East Ward, which traditionally votes conservative. The rest of the place will just be turkeys voting for Christmas.

Black Ball
Black Ball
August 29, 2024 8:16 am

‘Aunty’ Nyree and the Slovenian Hag have explaining to do. Daily Telegraph:

NSW Premier Chris Minns has pointed out an Aboriginal land council that did not oppose a gold mine being built near Orange had previously warned that it was concerned people without any authority on cultural heritage were trying to “hijack” the project.

It comes as Federal environment minister Tanya Plibersek is standing firm in her decision to block the mine in Blayney that would create 800 jobs.

This has caused an extraordinary rift in Labor, with Mr Minns saying she is absolutely wrong and that he wants the mine to go ahead.

Her decision comes after it was revealed the Orange Local Aboriginal Land Council – which has cultural authority in the area – warned that it was worried other groups were trying to “hijack” the project.

“We question the motives of people and organisations who participate in promoting unsubstantiated claims and seek to hijack Aboriginal cultural heritage in order to push other agendas,” the Land Council said in a submission that found no reason why the mine should not go ahead.

In budget estimates on Wednesday, Mr Minns read out an excerpt from this submission.

But Ms Plibersek has said she took the advice of another group called Wiradyuri Traditional Owners Central West Aboriginal Corporation, which said the area was of cultural significance.

Ms Plibersek said it was “important to identify who the appropriate people are” to listen to decide on the cultural heritage of a project.

“In this specific case, I have listened to the Orange Local Aboriginal Land Council, but in the end I have taken the advice of the Wiradyuri Traditional Owners Central West Aboriginal Corporation,” she said.

But Wiradyuri man and former chair of the NSW Aboriginal Land Council Roy Ah-See said he had never heard of artist Nyree Reynolds or the 18 members of the Wiradyuri Traditional Owners Central West Aboriginal Corporation.

“I know a lot of people and I have never heard of any of them,” Mr Ah-See said.

“I think the minister has been hoodwinked.

“This is a concern for industry and corporations as well as Aboriginal Land Councils because we have a system and the minister ignoring it throws the whole thing into doubt.”

Ms Plibersek refused to attend The Daily Telegraph’s Bush Summit in Orange today (Thurs) to face angry locals and explain her decision because she said she has already attended the opening summit in Townsville and has a full day of meetings in Sydney.

Instead she doubled down on her decision on Wednesday.

“The mine can go ahead, what I have said is that the tailings dam cannot be built on the headwaters of the river,” she said.

“The company has said that there is $7 billion worth of gold in the ground, if that’s the case it’s probably worth their while to redesign the project.”

NSW Premier Chris Minns told budget estimates yesterday that Ms Plibersek’s “eleventh hour” decision to block the mine after it had received state planning approval was “absolutely” wrong.

“I’m disappointed by the decision from the commonwealth government,” he said.

“The application was made in 2019. It’s gone through the independent planning and assessment commission, as well as every other government department in NSW.

“And to be knocked over at the eleventh hour is disappointing in terms of mining gold and other critical minerals in NSW, which we desperately need because coal mining is under pressure, particularly when it comes to export markets.”

Mr Minns said the decision to block the tailing facility “may well” mean the death of the project but that he was still “hopeful for an alternative tailing.”

A spokesperson for the neighbouring Bathurst Local Aboriginal Land Council also said Ms Reynolds “doesn’t represent us” and “has no authority to speak on our behalf.”

“She has never been a member of our Land Council, or applied to be a member.”

The Land Council also confirmed they did not have any discussions with Ms Plibersek before the Environment Minister knocked back the gold mine.

That last paragraph is key. If the Bathurst mob didn’t engage with dialogue with Plibbers, then what the actual phuck is going on?
Rather than have Plibbers attend the Bush Summit, have Nyreeeeeee there and have her explain herself. Might be fun.

Miltonf
Miltonf
August 29, 2024 9:51 am
Reply to  Black Ball

Foul evil old wimmin wrecking people’s prospects of gainful employment. Beneath despicable

H B Bear
H B Bear
August 29, 2024 11:09 am
Reply to  Black Ball

Smells like Hindmarsh Island on steroids. Wouldn’t want to be the public servant trying to look behind local blackfella politics and trying to make sense of it all.

Foxbody
Foxbody
August 29, 2024 11:52 am
Reply to  H B Bear

No blackfella politics here, Esteemed Bear.
It is Labor all the way down, from the non- aboriginal patsy out the front to the non- consultation with the traditional owners. Madame Minister has been caught out in an ugly fraud and must resign.

Winston Smith
Winston Smith
August 29, 2024 11:48 am
Reply to  Black Ball

What the media would find is that there are links between Nyree Reynolds or the 18 members of the Wiradyuri Traditional Owners Central West Aboriginal Corporation and Plibersek.
That is, if they cared enough to look.
Which they don’t.

calli
calli
August 29, 2024 8:21 am

Scorched earth on retreat. Establishing income streams and areas of influence post government. All difficult to unpick if contracts signed, sealed and delivered.

The sabotage of the Australian economy for an incoming government by thieves and rascals pretending to be noble ideologues.

Roger
Roger
August 29, 2024 8:26 am

But Wiradyuri man and former chair of the NSW Aboriginal Land Council Roy Ah-See said he had never heard of artist Nyree Reynolds or the 18 members of the Wiradyuri Traditional Owners Central West Aboriginal Corporation.

In 2013 Nyree was a “Gamilaroy woman” protesting a goat abattoir.

In 2018 she was a “Progressive woman” commended for her activism in the NSW parliament by Mehreen Faruqi.

In 2024 she’s a “Wiradjuri woman” with the Minister’s ear.

Me thinks Ms. Reynolds’ bona fides deserve some close scrutiny.

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Indolent
Indolent
August 29, 2024 8:26 am
Indolent
Indolent
August 29, 2024 8:29 am
MatrixTransform
August 29, 2024 8:29 am

Idiots…..no. They know what they’re doing

dunno about that

they’re full of all sorts of conceits about how things really work and apply their newly puritanical proper-speak as if they’re infallible magic spells

these people gain an office and then seek to enforce their own brand of mental onto everybody else

I’d say they earnestly believe that their half-arsed disconnected gibber is the answer

but it isn’t

… and that, makes them idiots

Winston Smith
Winston Smith
August 29, 2024 11:55 am

That’s a very nuanced position, Matrix.
Which also happens to be 100% correct.

MatrixTransform
August 29, 2024 5:05 pm
Reply to  Winston Smith

that’s me … Mr Nuance

Indolent
Indolent
August 29, 2024 8:29 am
Rufus T Firefly
Rufus T Firefly
August 29, 2024 9:53 am
Reply to  Indolent

The astronauts stranded at the International Space Station is a grand example of DIE, ……, sorry DEI.

I was listening to a podcast just yesterday, that covered this topic.
The Boeing spacecraft, that should have brought these individuals back to earth is ridden with problems, despite the US Govt providing more that $2 Billion to the hopelessly inept company.

A sound clip was played, from a NASA “struggle session”, where white engineers were forced to say, that they were overtaken by racism in doing their job AND factors such as accuracy and time pressure were indications of this plight.
A minority individual, (her accent sounded African American), then proceeded to talk about how her culture would make “science” work sooooooo much better.
Again, this is NASA!

Indolent
Indolent
August 29, 2024 8:31 am
Winston Smith
Winston Smith
August 29, 2024 12:02 pm
Reply to  Indolent

Two examples that have come around more frequently than Halley’s Comet have been the loony broadsides launched against air conditioning and showers.

I can understand the hate of showers from the vast unwashed, but aircon and refrigeration?
They’d drink warm beer in a hot house?
Madness. Insanity. Derangement and mental aberrations on a massive scale. These people need to be locked up and treated with chemical restraints.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 29, 2024 8:32 am

University of Sydney professor Sujatha Fernandes to avoid serious punishment after ‘Hamas rape hoax’ lectureAlexi Demetriadi
15 hours ago.
Updated 11 hours ago

393 comments
A University of Sydney professor who told first-year students that Hamas’s mass rape and sexual ­violence on and after October 7 were “fake news” and a “hoax” concocted by Western media will avoid serious punishment, despite an internal investigation finding she breached the university’s code of conduct.
The university is refusing to reveal what disciplinary action – if any – it had taken against sociology professor Sujatha Fernandes, who made the claims in April during a sociology lecture, accusing Western media outlets of “peddling” the rape “fake news” to “shore up support for Israel”.

A sociology professor has told her class the western media peddled the “fake news” and “hoax” that Hamas committed…
Sources close to the investi­gation said it determined Professor Fernandes’s conduct “fell below the university’s expec­tations” and that disciplinary action would be taken, which would align with the enterprise agreement, together with measures to “mitigate risk of recurrence”.
Professor Fernandes declined to comment – citing thecase’s confidentiality – and a University of Sydney spokeswoman would not talk specifically on the matter or say what exact disciplinary action the university had taken. She said it now considered the matter “closed … following careful consideration in line with relevant policies and procedures”.
“While we are limited in what we can say, given our privacy responsibilities and obligations, we manage all matters in line with our enterprise agreement, code of conduct and other relevant policies, and have been very clear with our community about our expectations of behaviour during this challenging time,” she said.
“Our academic staff giving lectures must exercise their intellectual freedom according to the highest ethical, professional and legal standards and apply a best teaching practice approach incorporating evidence and analysis.”

In a just world, she would be whipped through the streets at the cat’s tail.

Miltonf
Miltonf
August 29, 2024 10:21 am

Professor and doctor are dirty words now

Old Lefty
Old Lefty
August 29, 2024 2:08 pm

But what else would you expect from Scott of the ABC but craven surrender to the far left?

Crossie
Crossie
August 29, 2024 4:07 pm

“Our academic staff giving lectures must exercise their intellectual freedom according to the highest ethical, professional and legal standards and apply a best teaching practice approach incorporating evidence and analysis.”

This will be news to anyone who has tried telling the truth to the “academic” “community”.

Indolent
Indolent
August 29, 2024 8:34 am
Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
August 29, 2024 8:35 am

So there’s overlapping “stakeholder” power with ministerial veto power, the federal, the state, and multiple First Nationses Ownerses?
Long overdue for a bit of “afuera”, maybe starting with getting the federal government the hell out of state affairs. The Creation of the Ministry Of Nature was all a big wheeze when the states were under the Liberals, but the Labor Maaates will surely start backstabbing now that the polls are sliding and the lights are going dim.

Rabz
August 29, 2024 8:38 am

Australia’s energy transition is spluttering to an uncertain future.

The no energy future.

Frequent and lengthy blackouts in a (supposedly) first world country awash with energy generating resources. A (not so) long and tortuous “transition” indeed.

As I’ve observed before, people need to wise up and stop voting for politicians that are explicitly committed to destroying our way of of life.

Which is about 93.1% of the useless incompetent hypocritical utterly corrupt knobheads. This includes the gliberals, the national agrarian socialists, labore and of course the greenfilth. Not to mention those staggeringly stupid sanctimonious and evil teal slags.

They need to be gifted a long overdue starring role in HOP Time, “pour encourager les autres”.

alwaysright
alwaysright
August 29, 2024 8:50 am
Reply to  Rabz

Rabz Johnson is right!

The roonable idiocy must stop.

Rufus T Firefly
Rufus T Firefly
August 29, 2024 10:23 am
Reply to  Rabz

These policies are NOT mistakes, they are working exactly as planned.

The object of the exercise, is population reduction and to reduce the survivors, to the status of serf.

We must all remember, that democratic government has NEVER been in the majority on earth and what is occurring is a reversion to the historic norm, ie serfdom.

The removal of the middle class is the first step, because they are independent financially, from the Govt. The ridiculous decisions taken during Covid were aimed purely against them.
For example, if you ran a shop it must be shut down, because it is obviously a “Covid” ridden hell hole that will kill granny, but of course, Coles, Woolies, Bunnings and Dan Murphys are somehow pristine and “Covid” safe, indispensable necessities for life. Follow the sy-yunnss

Making power too expensive for the “great unwashed” will greatly assist their plans.
Along with this, the removal of the internal combustion engine, will limit the movement of the troublesome helots, making them easier to control.
The use of EV’s is obviously ridiculous, because there will be no power for lighting and cooking, let alone charging these short range incendiary devices.

The LNP are just as evil as Labor and the Greens.
If any politician wished to serve the Australian population, they could EASILY bring this fatuous, dangerous Green catastrophe to an abrupt end, very easily.
Simply ask Bowen/Uncle Mario to produce the “scientific” research, that they have based this “utter waste of tax payers money” on.

There is none!
Not one “scientific” study shows that mankind has ANY EFFECT WHATEVER on climate on earth.
Only modelling “shows” that there is a any problem with the climate.
Modeling = Garbage in – Dogma out!

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 29, 2024 8:48 am

Brittany Higgins: Voice message bombshell rocks Linda Reynolds defamation trial as court hears evidence that contradicts one of her biggest claims

  • Higgins had counselling eight days after alleged rape
  • Claimed she couldn’t get an appointment for two months

Daily Mail.

Boambee John
Boambee John
August 29, 2024 11:01 am

Lying liar lied again.

H B Bear
H B Bear
August 29, 2024 11:12 am

Marty is tearing them a new one in WA. I suspect Dreyfus isn’t sleeping too well.

Winston Smith
Winston Smith
August 29, 2024 12:06 pm

This circus shows no sign of moving on, and the biggest acts have yet to be announced.

Megan
Megan
August 29, 2024 12:07 pm

You lie about one thing, you’ll.lie about everything.

QED The despicable liar who has destroyed countless people on the periphery of this disgusting imbroglio, ripped off hard-working taxpayers to line her own pockets and pulls the mental ‘elf card to avoid displaying her lies to the world. Vile behaviour.

Indolent
Indolent
August 29, 2024 8:49 am
Mother Lode
Mother Lode
August 29, 2024 8:54 am

Always look on the bright side.

If governments are involved in ‘eat the bugs’ thing then we will soon be running out of bugs. No flies and mosquitos ruining summer, no cockroaches scattering across the kitchen floor when the light comes on, not even silverfish eating your old books.

See? Smile a little!

mem
mem
August 29, 2024 10:38 am

I’d like to see a showdown between the Tomato Industry worldwide and the Green Blob. I’d say the Blobs underestimate just who’s involved. Don’t upset the Godfather’s tomato patch.

Cassie of Sydney
August 29, 2024 8:57 am

I have eaten very good food in the UK.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
August 29, 2024 9:02 am

It was a joke Cassie! One of those unshakeable cultural myths. The Caribbean people who moved to the UK brought great food, as did the Hindu migrants. On the other hand the worst hamburger I ever had anywhere was in Birmingham, and the worst Maccas at Marble Arch.

bons
bons
August 29, 2024 9:45 am

Certainly Brit pub food is far better than the fry-up rubbish in our pubs and clubs.

Sunday lunches (taking Mum out for lunch) are first class.

lotocoti
lotocoti
August 29, 2024 9:05 am

Are they idiots?
No.
The only idiots are the people who choose not to notice.

Bungonia Bee
Bungonia Bee
August 29, 2024 9:13 am

Trudy McIntosh at Sky News Daytime says that the blackouts warning from AEMO is merely that planned renewable projects have to be implemented on time and at the energy rating they promise. Plus, rooftop solar is on the increase and this will help, she says. Laura Jayes must concur, she had nothing to add.
OK, lets see. Adding more “renewables” will not prevent outages, nor will it lower costs. It’s still just intermittent and unreliable. It doesn’t achieve plated capacity as a rule.
Rooftop solar or solar farms will add to the daytime supply – but wait a minute – aren’t they already foreshadowing that the feed-in tariffs might disappear because solar adds to daytime supply which is essentially off-peak and surplus!

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
August 29, 2024 9:27 am
Reply to  Bungonia Bee

Any more solar capacity is literally worthless as the current wholesale electricity price right now is 2c/MWh and minus $18/MWh in sunny Queensland.

https://aemo.com.au/aemo/apps/visualisations/elec-nem-summary-tiles.html

LB2
LB2
August 29, 2024 10:54 am
Reply to  Bungonia Bee

This latest effort from AEMO almost looks like a corrigendum to the previous one, almost as if someone told them to tone down the doom and gloom, don’t you realize there’s an election coming?

Winston Smith
Winston Smith
August 29, 2024 12:16 pm
Reply to  Bungonia Bee

During the first major blackout, what will happen is that the government will blame a small sector of the community for the excess use – just so the ones without power have someone to rage against.
(Just to clarify – the lack of electricity will NOT mean people living in an information free environment – it will mean the government will have the only means of issuing information.)

Rabz
August 29, 2024 9:14 am

Bloomberg News touts new green villain: Refrigeration! YOUR fridge ‘has wide-ranging climate implications’ using ‘more than 8% of global electricity..at a time when ice caps are melting’

How is garbage such as this anything other than insanity? What sort of preposterous weirdo obsesses about such irrelevancies?

If you’re the sort of numbskull who obsesses about fridges causing polar ice caps to melt then you should be doing it clad in straightjacket while languishing in a padded cell – for your own f*cking good and the good of the planet.  

Cassie of Sydney
August 29, 2024 9:17 am

Some of us smelt it from the beginning but I now think the evidence proves beyond any doubt whatsoever that the Hoggins’ r*pe allegations were weaponised by Labor, the Greens, the MSM, the Turdbulls etc. to bring down the Morrison government.

It worked a treat because of the ineptness and spinelessness of Morrison and his government. From day one they responded like a deer caught in headlights.

The whole thing is shameful.

I hope Reynolds gets justice.

Wally Dali
Wally Dali
August 29, 2024 9:19 am

Cassie one more essential ingredient was a lazy and incurious mass media.
As well as some messiah-complex camera hags, of course

Winston Smith
Winston Smith
August 29, 2024 12:18 pm
Reply to  Wally Dali

The Communists worked out a long time ago that the media, which was supposed to provide accurate information to the society at large, was the weak part of the Democratic institution.
And they acted.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
August 29, 2024 9:23 am

University of Sydney professor Sujatha Fernandes to avoid serious punishment after ‘Hamas rape hoax’ lecture

Blackmail time.

Richest unis threaten to cut local enrolment (Paywallian)

‘None of them would be pleasant.’ The knock-on effect of capping international student numbers is revealed as top universities warn of ‘serious discussions’ over cuts to jobs, research and domestic student enrolments.

I for one would say off you go. Sparing kids the sort of indoctrination and propaganda they’ve been spouting lately would be a very good thing. And what I see of my old chemistry department in the news sheet they send me what passes for research these days is rubbish: most of the department seems to be working on climate crap. Plus on top of all that if that Fernandes woman is teaching lies about Gaza then how can anyone think the other stuff she teaches isn’t a pack of lies also?

Roger
Roger
August 29, 2024 9:28 am

Some of us smelt it from the beginning but I now think the evidence proves beyond any doubt whatsoever that the Hoggins’ r*pe allegations were weaponised by Labor, the Greens, the MSM, the Turdbulls etc. to bring down the Morrison government.

That may be the case, and it reflects extremely poorly on those involved, but when most voters went into the polling booth on 21May 2022 the alleged/confected injustice done to Higgins wasn’t at the forefront of their minds. This is very much a Canberra bubble/doctors’ wives thing.

bons
bons
August 29, 2024 9:49 am
Reply to  Roger

True, but it added significantly to the “Libs have a women problem” myth.

Roger
Roger
August 29, 2024 11:58 am
Reply to  bons

“Smash her!”

bons
bons
August 29, 2024 9:32 am

I know nothing about WA radio but I was shocked this morning listening to an excerpt a moron on 6PR? intoning about Pauline’s comments regarding the Welcome To Country scam.

Extremist views it would appear.

Even the few callers who actually supported her had to protect themselves with qualifiers such as “she may have gone a bit far”.

Excuse me, which way to the gas chambers?

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 29, 2024 9:34 am

Heritage laws have been weaponised against Indigenous progressNyunggai Warren Mundine
4 hours ago

49 comments
At the 2024 Garma Festival, ­Anthony Albanese stated that he saw economic development as the way forward for Indigenous Australians.
Within weeks, his government placed the uranium-rich Jabiluka mining region into Kakadu National Park, ensuring there will never be mining at Jabiluka, now or in the future, and then vetoed the $1b goldmine near Orange, NSW. The Jabiluka mineral deposit is one of the largest high-grade uranium deposits in the world. The lease, held by Energy Resources Australia, was granted in 1982 following an agreement with the Northern Land Council, representing the traditional Aboriginal owners. The agreement included royalties and other payments to traditional owners and covenants that no Aboriginal sacred sites would be disturbed.
Feasibility work, approvals and preliminary work had taken place but no mining had commenced. There has been a campaign by Mirarr traditional owners against renewing the lease which expired in August. ERA applied for a lease renewal on the basis there would be no uranium mining unless the traditional owners changed their minds. On advice from the Albanese government, the NT government refused the renewal.

First, as an Aboriginal man who has fought for decades for traditional owners to have the right to determine what happens on their land, I respect the Mirarr people’s rights and decisions for their own traditional lands. But I do oppose the Albanese government’s decision to prevent uranium mining there for all time.
The Mirarr leadership today opposes mining. But this decision by the federal government has been made, not just for them, but for all Mirarr people now and in the ­future, even if their children and grandchildren have a different view.
A uranium mine at Jabiluka would put the Mirarr people at the centre of global energy discussions and policy and the push for emission reductions and a clean energy future. The Mirarr people would have had a seat at the table in regional, national and global decisions that impact their lands and the world. They would also have been positioned at the centre of their own economic prosperity and the energy economy. This could have delivered real empowerment and real self-determination for this and future generations of the Mirarr people.
The world is moving rapidly to a nuclear future to combat climate change and the reduction of carbon emissions and needs energy that is both decarbonised and abundant. Demand for uranium is rising as more nuclear power plants are built to meet that ­demand.

The development of safe, clean, heritage protected uranium mining at Jabiluka and uranium exports would provide a strong economic base for the Mirarr people, the Northern Territory and Australia. This would benefit all, providing more funding for the building of schools, hospitals and infrastructure and, most importantly, jobs and business creation in remote northern Australia providing opportunities for the Mirarr people to participate in the real economy on their own lands.

Cassie of Sydney
August 29, 2024 9:45 am

That may be the case, and it reflects extremely poorly on those involved, but when most voters went into the polling booth on 21May 2022 the alleged/confected injustice done to Higgins wasn’t at the forefront of their minds. This is very much a Canberra bubble/doctors’ wives thing

Yes and no. It was used effectively in electorates won by Teals. It was used to malign sitting Liberals. And the smears about the Liberals having a woman problem were used very effectively by the MSM every single day up to May 2022. It began in late 2020 with the Four Corners ‘exposure’ (another hit job by Louse Nilligan) and ramped up with the Hoggins and Porter bulldust. In September 2020, Morrison was riding high in the polls, he was also riding high with female voters. And then it all came undone.

Don’t get me wrong, Morrison was (and remains) a nitwit or as my mother likes to call him…a Billy Bunter character. However, from day one the Morrison government handled it all appallingly. It sought to prostrate itself before a baying mob, an action always doomed to failure. As I said from day one, the moment the Hoggins allegations surfaced, Morrison should have trotted down to Albanese’s office and said…’okay Albo, if you go ahead and politicise this r*pe allegation, we will then rehash the r*pe allegation against the member for Maribyrnong’. Not nice, I know, but we saw the consequences by being ‘nice’. The left don’t play politics using Queensberry Rules, I fail to see why the right should either.

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LB2
LB2
August 29, 2024 10:45 am

… still not too late to do something about the member for Maribyrnong’s matter

H B Bear
H B Bear
August 29, 2024 11:20 am

My 2c worth – people were sick of SloMo who had proved to be a complete dud after stitching up the Lieboral leadership and winning the general election by not being Peanut Head. Brittany was just more fuel for the fire.

Roger
Roger
August 29, 2024 11:29 am

Yes and no. It was used effectively in electorates won by Teals. 

I will admit to a blind spot re the Teals, being c. 1000km from their nearest seat and all (and hoping it will stay that way) :D.

It would be interesting to see a timeline of the polling in Teal seats.

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Rabz
August 29, 2024 9:54 am

when most voters went into the polling booth on 21May 2022 the alleged/confected injustice done to Hoggins wasn’t at the forefront of their minds

Not according to a certain erstwhile commenter* who was adamant the Hoggins imbroglio was the main reason the Morristeen goat rodeo and clown show was punted in May 2022.

*No prizes for guessing his identity.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 29, 2024 10:08 am

Roger
 August 29, 2024 8:01 am

Power planning on a wing and a prayer

Graham Lloyd, The Australian, 29 August, 2024

Australia’s energy transition is spluttering to an uncertain future.

Err, no, Graham.
It is heading inexorably towards a very certain future on the current trajectory.
Certain but somewhat unpleasant.

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mem
mem
August 29, 2024 11:00 am
Reply to  Sancho Panzer

I find it absurd that at the same time the Government is running anti-gambling campaigns it indulges in the biggest gamble of all, investing trillions of dollars in an energy transition that assumes you can control the climate.

Roger
Roger
August 29, 2024 11:39 am
Reply to  mem

You find it absurd because you aren’t in on the grift, mem.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 29, 2024 10:29 am

Cassie of Sydney
 August 29, 2024 8:57 am

I have eaten very good food in the UK.

And conversely I have eaten rubbish in Italy and France.
The “English food is swill” stereotype has it’s origins in post-war rationing when people used all sorts of inferior and bland substitute ingredients.

calli
calli
August 29, 2024 10:34 am
Reply to  Sancho Panzer

British food at its best – breakfast and afternoon tea. And…the roast with all the trimmings.

Good, solid, hearty stuff. Keeps the Hobbitses going all day.

Frank
Frank
August 29, 2024 11:10 am
Reply to  Sancho Panzer

Meanwhile the French make do with slugs and bugs and so on, as well as horses. Cretinous people, on par with the Chinese with their willingness to eat anything that slithers.

Roger
Roger
August 29, 2024 11:31 am
Reply to  Sancho Panzer

You haven’t lived until you’ve eaten a mock chicken sandwich, a war time staple that somehow survived well into the 1990s in some parts.

But generally English food is smashing!

But best enjoyed home cooked, imv.

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Miltonf
Miltonf
August 29, 2024 10:40 am

Yes I’d say quite a few of the ideologues are idiots in the sense that they hold technical skill and knowledge in complete contempt. The Ryan horror comes to mind ‘not my problem’.

Cassie of Sydney
August 29, 2024 10:42 am

The Caribbean people who moved to the UK brought great food, as did the Hindu migrants. 

There was excellent food in the UK prior to the arrival of people from the Caribbean and sub-continent.

Classical English food is delicious.

Tom
Tom
August 29, 2024 11:12 am

Classical English food is delicious.

Rick Stein is Britain’s greatest culinary export and runs a popular restaurant in Cornwall (not far from Penzance, where the pirates come from).

Many of Stein’s food docos seen in Australia on Lifestyle Food and SBS Food, are devoted to great British traditional food.

Stein — a great fan of Australia, incidentally — is a British food nationalist and his food shows are first class.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
August 29, 2024 10:48 am

The Hindu influence started arriving in the 1700s.

Toad in the hole and Welsh rarebit before that… 😀

And haggis, if you were a Scot.

Haggis Highlander (1986)

Excellent movie!

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
August 29, 2024 10:54 am

While on this subject some classic UK television…

The Emulsified High-Fat Offal Tube | Yes, Minister: 1984 Christmas Special

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
August 29, 2024 11:11 am
Boambee John
Boambee John
August 29, 2024 12:43 pm

Top. People.

BobtheBoozer
BobtheBoozer
August 29, 2024 12:52 pm

A group of international scholars funded by the European Union were unable to define “sex” or “gender” after studying the topic for more than five years, but nevertheless concluded that both concepts should be incorporated into all academic research going forward. 
Somebody who tacks “…going forward” on the end of a sentence needs to be placed in a Trebuchet and launched into the North Sea. During winter. .. during the polar bear feeding season. (The two are probably exclusive of each other, but “shut up” is my explanation.)

Winston Smith
Winston Smith
August 29, 2024 11:15 am

Great Britain has just had a Communist Revolution imposed from the top down. It took the Marxists in the Liberal Party – thankyou Gramsci, your ‘Long March Through The Institutions’ strategy has just delivered another victory to the Communists.
?In conjunction with Labour, the people of Great Britain are seeing the mailed fist.
They are about to find out the truth of the old saying “You can vote your way into Communism, but you have to shoot your way out.”

Cassie of Sydney
August 29, 2024 11:18 am

Toad in the hole and Welsh rarebit before that

No, English food such as its roast meats and puddings were the envy of Continental visitors.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
August 29, 2024 11:24 am

Respect to both boxers. Nikita was just more precise.

I’m glad the ref stopped the fight when he did.

Kosta Tszyu would be all smiles.

—–

Nikita Tszyu vs. Koen Mazoudier Full Fight Highlights | Main Event | Fox Sports Australia

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8TGBNUAFCr0

H B Bear
H B Bear
August 29, 2024 11:27 am

Haven’t been in the UK since the early 90s. Australian cafe type food was miles ahead of the UK equivalent. Getting a decent coffee anywhere outside London (and only then with deep, pre Internet knowledge) was impossible. British style curries were usually sublime.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
August 29, 2024 11:31 am

I grew up on English food! Back then there wasn’t anything else. Australian food was very bland. My mum, who has Jamaican heritage, was enlightened, but my dad is still meat and three veg even now. Don’t ever give him something with chillies in it!

When we visited Sydney CBD in the sixties we’d go to one of the only Chinese restaurants in Ultimo. Absolutely scrumptious! I learned to use chopsticks.

Eventually in the seventies a basic Chinese restaurant opened in our country town. A wonder! Before that it was English food.

Then by the time I got to university the whole scene exploded, and we had dozens of Thai, Italian, Chinese and French restaurants in our suburb of Kingsford. Yum and cheap too, which for a student is important.

On the other hand the Maccas at Kingsford was pretty good too. One of the floor sweepers rose through the ranks to become the Maccas CEO.

Miltonf
Miltonf
August 29, 2024 11:35 am

My grandmother’s Aussie cooking was never bland. More my Mum’s or my aunts’.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
August 29, 2024 11:38 am
Reply to  Miltonf

Country NSW was in another time era of course. Decades behind the rest of Australia.

H B Bear
H B Bear
August 29, 2024 11:41 am

Times have certainly changed. My old man did his residency at Royal Perth hospital in the mid 60s. He described some German restaurant somewhere where they all ate. The Italians and Greeks had their own places in Northbridge and Fremantle. Even during the 80s there was only really a handful of “superior” restaurants across Perth with truly talented chefs who would cut it today. Now there are dozens upon dozens.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
August 29, 2024 11:39 am

Bangers and mash, with Gravox! And mushy peas.

H B Bear
H B Bear
August 29, 2024 11:45 am

We were rescued by a Main Roads grader crew after breaking down in the Pilbara. Crib sheds towed behind the grader. Tinned peas only there.

Miltonf
Miltonf
August 29, 2024 11:45 am

Certainly visited Chinese restaurants in Dubbo and Blaney in the 70s when I was a kid. I never agreed with the trashing of Aussie tucker as ‘bland’ when it can be delicious and nutritious. Just part of the push to trash Anglo Australia.

Frank
Frank
August 29, 2024 11:45 am

Food was pretty crap in the 70s, apparently. Not so now, traded for a bunch of fat bastards everywhere you look.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
August 29, 2024 12:05 pm

I’ll get slammed for saying this. I am not a fan of curries in any way shape or form. Imagine taking a glorious piece of marbled beef and infusing it with spices … I want to taste the flesh, not the spices!

Give me meat with a nice gravy or garlic sauce, combined with fresh vegetables with a squeeze of lemon juice. I remember reading years back, the reason so many spices etc were used was because of lack of refrigeration. It would mask the taste of the meat going off?

Each to their own.

johanna
johanna
August 29, 2024 12:25 pm
Reply to  Steve trickler

You don’t use prime meat for curries, Steve.

It is a way of using the cheapest, toughest cuts and making them edible.

See my comment on class issues below.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
August 29, 2024 12:37 pm
Reply to  johanna

Noted.

BobtheBoozer
BobtheBoozer
August 29, 2024 12:58 pm
Reply to  Steve trickler

“I’ll have a packet of flats, a handful of gravel and a couple of those rocks there.”
For throwing at the Heretic.

OK, I was joking, but what I’d give for a roast and 3 vegies.

Roger
Roger
August 29, 2024 12:10 pm

I’ll get slammed for saying this. I am not a fan of curries in any way shape or form. Imagine taking a glorious piece of marbled beef and infusing it with spices 

When Indians eat meat it’s generally not beef (or pork) for religious reasons.

That mainly leaves chicken or goat as the available animal proteins (“mutton” in India is usually goat), both of which benefit from the addition of spices for different reasons – chicken tends to be bland and goat can be gamey.

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Wally Dali
Wally Dali
August 29, 2024 12:10 pm

Rule of thumb: if there are more than three different spices beyond garlic and chili, the curry is usually just hot slop.

johanna
johanna
August 29, 2024 12:23 pm

Re food from various countries – I think a lot of it is class-based. Well off people (a small minority until recently) everywhere had pretty decent food, the toiling masses, not so much.

British cuisine in the C20th was also blighted by two wars and rationing that continued long afterwards, followed by the Depression after WW1. Again, this affected the masses, especially in cities, far more than wealthy people and the more prosperous segments of country dwellers.

In Australia, the food was pretty boring for the most until the first TV chefs appeared (e.g. Graham Kerr in the 1960s) as well as the Australian Women’s Weekly Cookbooks and of course Charmaine Solomon’s groundbreaking book on Asian cookery.

As a child growing up in the 1960s, meals at friends’ houses seemed to feature a lot of charred lamb chops, peas, and soggy mashed potato. The jar of dripping saved from multiple roasts was often found above the stove, and it was none too appetising to someone raised on speck fat only for recycling purposes. 🙂

These were working and lower middle class urban families, though. As above, the grub was no doubt better on other parts of the economic spectrum.

The fact that the children of postwar European migrants were generally taller and burlier than their parents indicates that the now adored ‘peasant food’ of southern Europe was not all it is now cracked up to be.

BobtheBoozer
BobtheBoozer
August 29, 2024 1:02 pm
Reply to  johanna

Johanna, when I cook a roast, I always keep the pan juices – OK, fat – and use them for later cooking of bacon and eggs and bacon.
And one of my favourite questions to ask of visitors is “Why did your grandma make pan gravy?”
I don’t get rational answers much these days.

Entropy
Entropy
August 29, 2024 1:37 pm
Reply to  johanna

What I wouldn’t give for an affordable lamb chop!

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
August 29, 2024 12:26 pm

Wally Dali
 August 29, 2024 12:10 pm

Rule of thumb: if there are more than three different spices beyond garlic and chili, the curry is usually just hot slop.

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I still spin out as to why the Brits favour curries over traditional cuisine … not every Brit of course.

I find curries the most overated foods in the WORLD.

But that is just me. No harm with differing opinions.

Diogenes
Diogenes
August 29, 2024 1:34 pm
Reply to  Steve trickler

After a bad experience in the ARes with a curry 40 years ago, just the smell of a curry makes me feel like I want to make a food offering to the great white porcelain god.

Kneel
Kneel
August 29, 2024 12:28 pm

“Are they idiots?
No.”

But they think you are.

Muddy
Muddy
August 29, 2024 9:00 pm
Reply to  Kneel

Every erection (sic) we prove them right.
We are creatives of habit, nostalgia, malaise.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
August 29, 2024 12:31 pm

….overrated

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
August 29, 2024 12:35 pm

When Indians eat meat it’s generally not beef (or pork) for religious reasons.

Religious reasons stopped making sense with proper cooking and refrigeration. Not that sense has anything to do with it.

BobtheBoozer
BobtheBoozer
August 29, 2024 12:40 pm

Dover Beach, I’m try to resuscitate Winston Smith as I don’t feel “Boozer Bob” has the right gravitas for the site.
I still have multiple posts awaiting publication to my adoring fans.
Ta.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
August 29, 2024 1:15 pm
Reply to  BobtheBoozer

Welcome back Winston!

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
August 29, 2024 3:17 pm
Reply to  BobtheBoozer

You’ve always been Winston to me, Bob.

BobtheBoozer
BobtheBoozer
August 29, 2024 5:48 pm

Awww.
That’s nice, Lizzie.

Did Hairy have any problems with his feet over winter? I remember giving you advice over fissures developing on his soles.

Megan
Megan
August 29, 2024 6:01 pm
Reply to  BobtheBoozer

Same as Lizzie, Winston. Glad your true Cat persona is returning to the site.

Delta A
Delta A
August 29, 2024 8:11 pm
Reply to  BobtheBoozer

Onya, Winnie.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
August 29, 2024 12:48 pm

Religious reasons stopped making sense with proper cooking and refrigeration. Not that sense has anything to do with it.

Beef in India was banned by the upper classes to reduce cattle rustling; a religious reason was concocted to give the ban force.

Reply

Zatara
Zatara
August 29, 2024 12:54 pm

“If now is not the time to show compassion to all who want to seek refuge here, then when is?”

Reality check.

The original populations of “here” have begun to stabilize and even decrease naturally because they hit (and recognized) the limitations of land and resources.

The populations of “there” keep producing like rabbits because “here” keeps letting masses of them in, thus not forcing the natural limitations of their places of origin to slow and stabilize their own reproduction.

Should this continue the math is simple and undeniable, as are the results. This isn’t cultural replacement theory, it’s cultural replacement fact.

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DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
August 29, 2024 12:58 pm

The original populations of “here” have begun to stabilize and even decrease naturally because they hit (and recognized) the limitations of land and resources.

Not a factor. Forcing women into the workforce is.

BobtheBoozer
BobtheBoozer
August 29, 2024 1:07 pm
Reply to  DrBeauGan

I did a stint in a nursing home about a decade ago, and sometimes at night you got time to talk to the older people.
The grandmums and dads had some interesting stories to tell, but the grandmums kept coming up with “I love my kids, but I wish I’d had more.”
I’d say the story remains the same in Nursing Homes in 2024.

BobtheBoozer
BobtheBoozer
August 29, 2024 1:08 pm
Reply to  BobtheBoozer

I just had a look in my resume, and it was two decades ago.
I’d best start looking at booking a room! 🙂

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
August 29, 2024 1:06 pm

Forcing women into the workforce is.

Likewise the pill, and “abortion rights”.

johnjjj
johnjjj
August 29, 2024 1:27 pm

When I was a kid the food was terrific. The rabbito would come round. Fresh fruit. Fresh milk. Apricots to die for. All backed up by the back yard garden. Then we watched as the processed foods came in. Breakfast cereal, the spreads, TipTop and taste hit the deck. The last was the disappearance of the green grocer. When the Chinks arrived it great as it was fresh cooked food again.
At least the Frogs still do it well. Local markets in the middle of the cities, buy what you will cook that night

BobtheBoozer
BobtheBoozer
August 29, 2024 2:06 pm
Reply to  johnjjj

One of the “Fight to Get” worker classifications for my redoubt when the power goes out is ‘Chinese Market Gardener’.
I don’t care if he’s a raving commo – he’s ours.

eric hinton
eric hinton
August 29, 2024 1:49 pm

BobtheBoozer

August 29, 2024 12:40 pm

Dover Beach, I’m try to resuscitate Winston Smith as I don’t feel “Boozer Bob” has the right gravitas for the site.

#Metoo. 

My fellow Australians, if this is the last post you read from me it means I have been put down and the Beachmeister has acceded to my request to transition back to my Adelaide name. 

Lawgi Dawes-Hall
Lawgi Dawes-Hall
August 29, 2024 1:53 pm
JC
JC
August 29, 2024 2:00 pm

During $NVDA call the company cited plummeting computing costs (some as high as 90%) for companies deploying AI due to rapid speed of applications

Nvidia.

Dude posting that reckons it’s the most important company in the world at the moment.

Kneel
Kneel
August 29, 2024 3:41 pm
Reply to  JC

Nvidia – who make Graphics Processing Units (GPUs) for high performance computer display cards for gamers etc – have been tagged by several other areas as really good, really fast computing power. The two that are most popular are bitcoin mining and AI. The bitcoin miners started the trend by building special hardware from these chips, and then AI people realised they are suited very well to AI processing.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
August 29, 2024 2:01 pm

Premier Jacinta Allan 

It’s Dan Andrews in a horrible frock.

Vile socialist.

JC
JC
August 29, 2024 2:06 pm

I suspect what’s going on here is that Western intel knows Russian intel (and therefore, likely, Chinese intel) have open access to Telegram and they don’t.

French Authorities Charge Telegram CEO Durov

The move opens a deeper investigation into whether the tech entrepreneur failed to counter the spread of illegal content on the app.

Entropy
Entropy
August 29, 2024 3:16 pm
Reply to  JC

I think it is more likely they want open access and Durov refuses to bend over.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
August 29, 2024 2:10 pm

On English food….

Eric Olthwaite’s mum used to make the best black pudding.

Even the white bits were black.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
August 29, 2024 2:18 pm
Reply to  Barking Toad

Olthwaite is so iconic that half the planet can quote from it. Glorious deadpan UK comedy. Ken Colley as the bank robber was awesome.

Titus Groates
Titus Groates
August 29, 2024 3:22 pm
Reply to  Barking Toad

“The black pudding’s very black today, mother!”

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
August 29, 2024 2:18 pm

Beef ban in India has a mixed heritage.
The Hindu belief and the practical elements In famine if you eat the cow, no milk or cheese, the ox, no ploughing or transport.
Horses play a small part in Indian agriculture because of feet issues in the wet/dry monsoonal climate.

BobtheBoozer
BobtheBoozer
August 29, 2024 2:19 pm

Hezbollah Still Can’t Quite Grasp What the IDF Did to It

Hezbollah claims that its attack on Israel on the morning of August 25 was a “success.” Hezbollah released a statement insisting that “by God’s grace, the first stage has been fully completed with complete success. This stage involved targeting Israeli barracks and sites to facilitate the passage of attack drones towards their intended destination deep within the entity [Israel]. The drones passed, praise be to God, as planned. The number of Katyusha rockets fired so far has exceeded 320 rockets directed at the enemy’s positions.”

I’m not so sure – the Israeli Chicken Battalion suffered grievous casualties with at least twenty dead. No wounded were reported.
When asked, an Israeli spokesman replied that they were still being treated in an appropriate manner, that is, with gravy and chips. Some were being turned into soup for the coming winter season.

BobtheBoozer
BobtheBoozer
August 29, 2024 2:29 pm
Reply to  BobtheBoozer

The Hezbollah reply reminds me of the Cold War statement released by Pravda:

Yesterday the US Ambassador challenged the Premier to a foot race. The Premier came second and the American came second last.

No mention was made of the race consisting of two men.
Cold war jokes?
I’ve a cupboard full of them.

Soviet scientists have perfected the worlds first giraffe/cow hybrid. It eats in Budapest, and is milked in Moscow.

I’m here all week – try the veal.

A reporter asked a Hungarian “Do you consider Russians as your brothers, or as your friends?”

“Brothers of course – you can pick your own friends.”

johanna
johanna
August 29, 2024 2:26 pm

Bob, there is a difference between saving the juices/fat from a single roast and the IXL tin above the stove half full of the residue of numerous roasts, sausages etc.

Re curries – haters should realise that it is a generic term which roughly equates to ‘stew with spices.’ I am not a fan of vindaloos and the like, but the Malaysian and Singaporean models, or the northern Indian ones, are very different. They are not hot, although they may have a trace of chili. The flavour comes from a blend of spices and a bit of garlic, but not so that you stink afterwards. Gulai Ayam, chicken and potato ‘curry’ is a staple in my takeaway diet. It’s delicious, and nothing like the brown sludge you rightly deplore.

As for furrin food in the 1960s, it was Chinese (us) and French (them) when I was growing up. The Griks ran fish and chip shops and the Italians were starting to open coffee bars. The first really exotic restaurant I went to was the Costa Brava – Spanish – in Liverpool Street, Sydney in 1970. Garlic prawns! Wow!

The wine scene evolved about the same time.

One thing I don’t miss about Old Australia is the food (and wine) that was available to the masses.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
August 29, 2024 2:33 pm
Reply to  johanna

Whoever decided to add sultanas to curries needs to be shot out of a cannon from the walls of the Red Fort.

BobtheBoozer
BobtheBoozer
August 29, 2024 3:03 pm

Bruce o Nuke – that’s the genius of the Australian Culinary Class. We called it a sweet curry.
Not a Bombay Curry, not a Masala Curry, not a Thai Curry.
It were different.
It were sweet because it had sweet sultanas innit.

mareeS
mareeS
August 29, 2024 6:59 pm

I dunno, Bruce. Thai Pork and Pineapple curry is pretty good, also Duck and lychee curry. Fish and tamarind with tomato. All good south asian tuck.

H B Bear
H B Bear
August 29, 2024 2:34 pm
Reply to  johanna

Wine in the early 80s was pretty hit and miss. Rare to get a really bad as undrinkable wine (or coffee) at any price point now.

H B Bear
H B Bear
August 29, 2024 2:39 pm
Reply to  H B Bear

We did a consulting job in the mid 80s for an integrated cafe chain that did their own roasting and wholesale. Bit of a novelty then. Now there would be a dozen or more. Great margins but virtually no barriers to entry, as it has proven.

BobtheBoozer
BobtheBoozer
August 29, 2024 2:52 pm
Reply to  johanna

Bob, there is a difference between saving the juices/fat from a single roast and the IXL tin above the stove half full of the residue of numerous roasts, sausages etc.

OK – I’m no cook, but what I do is collect the juices, put them in a dripping tin and then the fridge. If I have a full tin, I save it into a jar and freeze it.
Am I doing it wrong?

Dripping-tin
johanna
johanna
August 29, 2024 4:08 pm
Reply to  BobtheBoozer

Yes.

You need an IXL tin, and if you have enough in it to freeze (not that anyone had freezers) your family must be starving.

BobtheBoozer
BobtheBoozer
August 29, 2024 6:00 pm
Reply to  johanna

I keep it because I do use it every now and then, and I have real problems with throwing edible food out.
I suppose I could adopt another wife and half a dozen kids just to use up the excess, but I’ve done the sums and it doesn’t work out economically.
Maybe Elsie would like a dab of it with her kibble…

Tom
Tom
August 29, 2024 3:24 pm
Reply to  johanna

One thing I don’t miss about Old Australia is the food (and wine) that was available to the masses.

Correct.

Australian wine under $50 a bottle prior to 1990 was often rubbish.

Now, it’s virtually impossible to buy bad Australian wine.

johanna
johanna
August 29, 2024 4:09 pm
Reply to  Tom

Wouldn’t go that far. 🙂

BobtheBoozer
BobtheBoozer
August 29, 2024 6:03 pm
Reply to  Tom

Tom, I occasionally buy stuff from Drink Naked, but I think it was here that someone said the Chinese had bought up loads of the wineries and were pushing it out by the truckload.
Is that true?

mareeS
mareeS
August 29, 2024 7:04 pm
Reply to  Tom

We used to drink Cyril Henschke Hill of Grace in the early 1970s for under $10 a bottle. Every week, Pay night dinner at our local steak restaurant around the corner from our newspaper building.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
August 29, 2024 2:39 pm

“The Testing of Eric Oulthwaite”.

An absolute classic.

“It were always raining on Denley Moor, except on days when it were fine”.

We’ve got our own Eric these days. The dunderhead Chris Bowen.

John H.
John H.
August 29, 2024 3:06 pm
Reply to  Barking Toad

The Eric Oulthwaite Gang robbed banks. The Chris Bowen Gang is robbing us.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
August 29, 2024 2:45 pm

Chris Bowen. Boring little tit.

BobtheBoozer
BobtheBoozer
August 29, 2024 3:05 pm
Reply to  Barking Toad

I’ve yet to see a tit I didn’t like, but that tit really pushes the envelope.

calli
calli
August 29, 2024 2:53 pm

All this culinary discussion had me looking up my 1966 Commonsense Cookbook.

Anyone care for boiled sheep’s tongues? Tripe and onions? Dessert…a nice plate of lemon sago? 😀

It even has a madeira cake recipe, but it’s mean as. I made one the other day with three times the butter and eggs. Mmmmm.

One of my horrid childhood memories is grilled devon for tea, because there was no money left in the tin and Dad was paid next day. But a good memory – breaking the hi-top loaf and getting that first convex slice! Heaven!

BobtheBoozer
BobtheBoozer
August 29, 2024 6:04 pm
Reply to  calli

Grilled Devon?
Looxury!

mareeS
mareeS
August 29, 2024 7:06 pm
Reply to  calli

My first cookbook was Margaret Fulton’s, c. 1973.

Mak Siccar
Mak Siccar
August 29, 2024 2:58 pm

What the ….. ???

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/08/british-tyranny-police-raid-arrest-11-year-old/

British police have raided and arrested an 11-year-old child for participating in a spate of recent anti-immigration protests, some of which turned violent.
Local police confirmed the arrest of the child on Thursday as they widen their crackdown against political dissidents and those who participated in the demonstrations.
The Evening Standard reports:

Police have arrested an 11-year-old boy suspected of taking part in riots in the North East earlier this month. The young boy was one of 14 people arrested during a series of raids in Teesside carried out by Cleveland Police in the early hours of Wednesday.

The force has now arrested 110 people following the widespread trouble in Hartlepool and Middlesbrough, which was some of the worst seen in recent history.

Before police officers set out to carry out raids on Wednesday morning, Superintendent Marc Anderson briefed them, saying: “I was Silver Commander on Sunday August 4 and never in my 30 years’ service have I seen anything like that in Middlesbrough.” “What the community had to put up with that day was completely unacceptable.”

While some protesters likely engaged in criminal activity, the police are under orders from the country’s new left-wing government to come down hard on anyone involved in the recent disorder.

calli
calli
August 29, 2024 3:07 pm
Reply to  Mak Siccar

This means that the police invited the media to film the arrests. All class.

The process is the punishment.

cohenite
August 29, 2024 3:02 pm

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
 August 29, 2024 9:34 am

Heritage laws have been weaponised against Indigenous progressNyunggai Warren Mundine
4 hours ago

Warren Mundine is good value but the bottom line is that NT should not exist. 3rd nations are equal to everyone else and no more. They should have no say on any project beyond what every other Australian can do. The creature behind the plibbersac’s rejection of the goldmine is one of the ugliest humans ever and personifies the truism that leftoid sheilas are ugly beyond redemption. Nyree Reynolds:

?

calli
calli
August 29, 2024 3:03 pm

The measurements are all Imperial. It lists a “gill” for fluids, which is around a quarter pint or half cup.

Spaghetti, a most exotic creature, is boiled then layered in an oven dish with an insipid tomato sauce and reheated in the oven. Yum!

Advertising in the small volume consists of various tinned veggies, Hotpoint and Sunbeam appliances and Kraft cheese in a cardboard packet.

Cassie of Sydney
August 29, 2024 3:04 pm

Here’s a horror of a story about perverts, trannies and all things disgusting….

Dean Angus Bell charged with child abuse material offences
A notorious child sex offender who transitioned genders in prison has been charged with directing a child abuse material ring called “The Pack” from inside a NSW jail.

A notorious child sex offender who transitioned genders while in custody has been charged with allegedly directing a child sexual abuse ring called The Pack at a regional NSW prison.

Dean Angus Bell, 31, allegedly identified herself as “the leader of The Pack” before detectives arrested her at Junee Correctional Facility on Tuesday.

A court has previously heard Bell, who was charged under her legal name, is a transgender woman who goes by Jessica, and is housed with the male population at the male-only prison.

In April 2024, Sex Crimes Squad detectives established Strike Force Edits to investigate the alleged production and distribution of child abuse material in NSW prisons.

“During the investigation, strike force detectives identified a group of inmates allegedly calling themselves ‘The Pack’,” NSW Police said in a statement.

“This group allegedly shared letters among themselves detailing the sexual abuse of children and plans to offend against children in the future.”

Bell was charged with eight counts of producing child abuse material, eight counts of disseminating child abuse material and knowingly or recklessly directing a criminal group.

She is currently serving a prison term for using a carriage service to access child abuse material and breaching an extended supervision order.

She was refused bail to appear before Wagga Wagga Local Court yesterday.

“Detectives will allege in court the woman directed the group while in the correctional facility and wrote letters detailing the child abuse which she sent to other inmates,” NSW Police said in their statement.

Investigations under Strike Force Edits continue.

The above is nightmarish, dystopian and creepy. Why is the MSM referring to this criminal and pervert as a SHE? Bell is a biological male, was born a biological male and will die a biological male. As far as I am concerned, the MSM, by referring to Bell as a she, is complicit in this gaslighting and lies.

Oh but that’s right, according to some, those of us who refuse to acknowledge this criminal and creep as a SHE are Nazis.

Cassie of Sydney
August 29, 2024 3:09 pm

Anyone care for boiled sheep’s tongues? Tripe and onions? Dessert…a nice plate of lemon sago? 

All of which, if cooked properly, are delicious.

I actually think tongue is very delicious. Mum used to often make it. I also love liver.

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BobtheBoozer
BobtheBoozer
August 29, 2024 6:11 pm

I loved steak and kidney. Then one day after leaving the Renal Transplant Unit, I bought a steak and kidney pie.
All I could taste was urine in the meat – the kidneys obviously hadn’t been cleaned properly – or at all.
I threw the pie in the bin.

Last edited 5 months ago by BobtheBoozer