Open Thread – Thurs 19 Sept 2024


Orchard in Bloom, Claude Monet, 1879

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Indolent
Indolent
September 19, 2024 6:47 pm
thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
September 19, 2024 6:49 pm

Are you joiNing the DOTs yet Sheeple?
Well are you?

The Tartarian Liberation front will not be denied!
From our secret underground lairs we share with the red shoes/lizard people we will take back whats rightfully ours!

Indolent
Indolent
September 19, 2024 6:50 pm
mem
mem
September 19, 2024 7:08 pm

Has anyone identified the actual neonayzees who staged that show?

I reckon an enterprising journalist or maybe a lawyer representing MD should put out one of those old fashioned wanted ads, ” Reward for Identifying any of the people in this Photograph” with the incentive of $$$s. I’d be happy to contribute to crowd fund it.

Rosie
Rosie
September 19, 2024 7:08 pm

What would Payman be saying if dad had stayed in Afghanistan?
https://x.com/DrewPavlou/status/1836643101609464285?t=Q6DW_ZYXNzk0Ocb5xB54RQ&s=19

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 19, 2024 7:09 pm

Rosie
 September 19, 2024 5:42 am

“This morning, Hezbollah switched their comms from pagers to walkies and then launched dozens of rockets at Israeli civilians.

I see exploding carrier pigeons in their future.
This is a covert operation of epic proportions in it’s planning, technical expertise and execution.
Daylight second.

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 19, 2024 7:11 pm

For the first time I have got a new phone without the charger specification changing in the meantime. Possibly coz the battery died so quickly this time.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 19, 2024 7:15 pm

Pulp Fiction news (the Tele):

A batch of killer cocaine has been linked to the deaths of a well known social media personality and a 43-year-old woman, with health authorities warning Sydneysiders of drugs being cut with heroin and other deadly opioids.

Dunka Raymond Caldwell – known on TikTok and Instagram as ‘Humdinger’ – and Angel Mounce-Stephens, who also goes by the name Angela Yazgan, both died on August 30, after overdosing on heroin they believed to be cocaine.

A Mia Wallace moment.

Dot would get this.

Indolent
Indolent
September 19, 2024 7:31 pm
Cassie of Sydney
September 19, 2024 7:41 pm

Credlin is evidently a right leaning feminist.
That doesn’t necessarily make her a conservative.
Has she ever articulated her political philosophy?

I’m a ‘right leaning feminist’ and a conservative. I think Credlin is the same. Whilst we might disagree on some things, I think most women here on this blog are like me. I don’t think early feminism was such a bad thing. I am the daughter of a very opinionated and strong willed woman who was a founding member of Women’s Electoral Lobby. My mother taught her daughters to be tough but I’m not as tough as my mother because I didn’t drink the water she drank when she was growing up, I really think there was something quite unique in the water of this country from federation to the late 1950s that produced extraordinary women, such as my mother, my grandmothers, my aunts and grand-aunts. They were not shrinking violets.

Credlin is strong on most issues, I rarely disagree with her.

132andBush
132andBush
September 19, 2024 7:45 pm

Ya get the logic, guilt by association, however tenuous, and this is what has been done to Moira Deeming, Ange Jones, Kath Deves and Kellie-Jay Keen. They all attended a rally in Melbourne, some Grampian Nazis turned up uninvited and bingo, they’re now Nazis too!?

It’s well known that rockspiders like to watch kids play sport.

Anyone professing to watch kids play soccer can be deemed a rockspider.

Top Ender
Top Ender
September 19, 2024 7:53 pm

The Mocker at his finest. Worth cutting out and giving to those described!

THE MOCKER
It ain’t easy being Green — but a strong dose of idiocy helps
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The Mocker

Standing in solidarity with Land Forces Expo protesters in Melbourne last week, Greens senator David Shoebridge masterfully executed an act of Orwellian doublethink while maintaining a straight face. The “core tenets” of his party, he insisted, are “peace and non-violence”.

Could I add a third to that list, David, that being “taking the piss”? The so-called anti-war and pro-Palestinian protesters he defended likewise follow the Greens’ version of peace and non-violence. Rioters spat on police, sprayed acid in their direction, and pelted them with rocks, canned food, and manure. They even attacked police horses.

Twenty-seven officers were injured. So who did Shoebridge condemn? Why, the Victoria Police, of course, accusing them of “extreme violence”. My first thought upon hearing that was to hope he would take the form of a police horse in his next reincarnation. But I immediately dismissed that, given remarks like his prove Shoebridge would not have the requisite intelligence.

Speaking of intelligence, what does it say about those who vote for the Greens? I am not talking about young, impetuous adults. All of us did stupid things in our youth. But what does it say of a middle-aged person who votes for them? Let’s consider a typical case.

You live in the inner-city suburbs of East Melbourne or Sydney’s Inner West. Your partner, Julian, is a high-level public servant, and you are a senior academic responsible for developing new study programs in sociology.

Your vision of an egalitarian society is one in which “the rich pay their fair share”. You purport to speak for “the working class” but the only dealings you have with blue-collar workers is when you need a tradie. You maintain the system is rigged to favour big companies, but you conveniently ignore that Australian businesses have the second-highest corporate tax rate in the developed world.

As with many of your fellow socialists, your financial portfolio is looking a peach. Although you own three investment properties, you write letters to the newspaper demanding the abolition of negative gearing – provided of course that comes with a grandfather clause.

Thanks to your partner’s connections, you have a gun North Sydney accountant. In return for mates rates, he looks after your financial affairs, meaning you have not had to pay net tax for the last few years. And when you retire, you will receive a very tidy pension. That 17 per cent employer superannuation contribution is just one of the many perks of academia.

You went to a private school, but, as you tell your friends, you decided against sending your children to one for their secondary education, because they foster “elitism” and lack “diversity”. You omit telling them you were holding out on that decision until you received confirmation they had been accepted into a state selective school.

You regard with disdain mainstream Australia. September and October feature the worst in plebeian vulgarity, with all those shouty footy fans spoiling your tranquillity. “Bread and circuses,” you tell your circle, thinking your analogy both insightful and original.

You take yourself so seriously you are almost devoid of humour. When you suggested to one of the parents at the local tennis club that it should acknowledge it was on unceded lands, he responded that it had grass courts. You still cannot work out if he was being serious or not.

You try to avoid catch-ups with extended family, for they do not share your tolerant and worldly views, as you repeatedly stress to understanding friends. Your sister Kate is a happy stay-at-home mum, and she rolls her eyes when you explain to her that she lives an “unfulfilled” life. You have not forgiven her husband, Gary, for laughing uproariously last Christmas lunch when Julian proudly spoke of being a “male ally in the roadmap to gender equality”.

That reaction was annoying enough, but what really grates is that Gary is a self-made man. Although you would never admit it, you think it unfair that someone who never went to university has more assets than you do. Also, why would someone wealthy choose to live in the outer suburbs?

As a feminist, you deplore the treatment of women politicians, although you are remarkably selective in your outrage. You claim conservative politics is replete with misogyny. Yet when former British prime minister Margaret Thatcher died, you entertained your colleagues at morning tea the next day by cracking the bubbly and singing ‘The Witch is Dead’.

As an academic, you take pride in your intellectual superiority, but in reality you are incapable of entertaining an opposing view. You become flustered and defensive when you do not control the debate or the setting. At your high school reunion last year, you were shocked to hear women at your table say they would be voting No in the upcoming voice referendum. So distraught were you that you left the event early and had to pop an extra Valium to go to sleep.

Saving the planet, or rather showing others you are saving the planet, is your number one concern. You have just booked your second overseas holiday for this year and are a platinum jetsetter who would never settle for anything less than business class, but that’s okay because you purchase a carbon offset with every trip. You own an electric vehicle and cannot understand why all Australians do not follow suit. Range anxiety is nonsense you say. After all, the furthest you drive is to the airport or to your coastal retreat.

You are vocal about the need to learn from history, otherwise known as disproportionately focusing on the sins of conservative white men. But you would bristle if someone pointed out that the left were the loudest proponents of the White Australia policy, or if one of your students called out Bruce Pascoe’s ‘Dark Emu’ for its farcical conclusions.

Being progressive, you hold that your ideology is one of altruism. You consider the justification for your party’s policies to be self-evident. Accordingly, those who oppose them are either wicked or ignorant. But you have no idea, for example, that progressives were at the forefront of social Darwinism and the eugenics movement during the early twentieth century.

“But the progressives of today have nothing in common with those of that era,” you would reply. Think again. They were convinced of the righteousness of their cause. Their philosophy incorporated the racism of low expectations. And they believed in big government and the intervention of the state to further their ideology.

Your reaction to the October 7 attacks is telling. You acknowledge for the sake of appearances that Hamas murdered Israeli men, women, and children, yet you qualify that by saying “Look, I’m not condoning what happened, but”.

You are not anti-Semitic, you keep telling yourself. In other words, you think the Zionists are fair game. But you have not stopped screeching since learning yesterday Israel had taken out Hezbollah terrorists with exploding pagers.

And finally, you believe you will realise a social utopia in your lifetime. Unlike so many other far-left movements in the last hundred or so years, you are confident yours will not culminate in the mass expropriation of property, a collapse of the economy, and an authoritarian state.

Even if the unthinkable happened and it did, you would be able to prove you have long been on the right side of history, thus meaning they would never come for you. Right?

Oz

Winston Smith
Winston Smith
September 19, 2024 8:11 pm

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/09/breaking-20-supporters-seated-behind-trump-onstage-rushed/

BREAKING: Reports Indicate There May Have Been A Third Attempt On Trump’s Life

Approximately 20 patriots who attended Trump’s high-energy rally in Tucson are now reporting having to go to the ER immediately after the rally.

The attendees all suffered from symptoms like… pic.twitter.com/QIBfC2wjsR

Rosie
Rosie
September 19, 2024 8:34 pm

“How Israel Built a Modern-Day Trojan Horse: Exploding Pagers
The Israeli government did not tamper with the Hezbollah devices that exploded, defense and intelligence officials say. It manufactured them as part of an elaborate ruse.
The pagers began beeping just after 3:30 in the afternoon in Lebanon on Tuesday, alerting Hezbollah operatives to a message from their leadership in a chorus of chimes, melodies, and buzzes.

But it wasn’t the militants’ leaders. The pages had been sent by Hezbollah’s archenemy, and within seconds the alerts were followed by the sounds of explosions and cries of pain and panic in streets, shops and homes across Lebanon.

Powered by just a few ounces of an explosive compound concealed within the devices, the blasts sent grown men flying off motorcycles and slamming into walls, according to witnesses and video footage.
More at link might be paywalled.
The more Nasrallah panicked about mobile phones the more Hezbollah invested in Israeli technology.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/09/18/world/middleeast/israel-exploding-pagers-hezbollah.html?smid=nytcore-android-share

Roger
Roger
September 19, 2024 9:00 pm

Credlin is strong on most issues, I rarely disagree with her.

OK, but is she merely reacting to what’s out there by instinct or does she have a clearly thought through, articulated philosophical base from which she does so.

There’s nothing necessarily wrong with instincts, but without philosophical ballast they can easily be tossed here and there by the challenges of post-modern & post-liberal realities.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 19, 2024 9:05 pm

Dipping into Anthony Beevor’s account of the Battle for Arnhem. Health waning.

“The occupation of the Netherlands was probably the most brutal of all those in Western Europe.

In certain secret places the brutality was far worse Generalleutanant Walter Dornberger, the Inspector of Lon-Range Rocket Troops was later recorded secretly in a British prisoner of war camp, speaking of the activities of his colleague SS – Standartenfuhrer Behr.”In the Netherlands he made Dutchmen build the sites for the V2 ” Dornberger told fellow officers “then he had them herded together and killed by machine gun fire. He opened brothels for his soldiers with twenty Dutch girls. When the girls had been there two weeks, they were shot, and new ones brought along, so they couldn’t divulge anything they might discover from the soldiers.” Page 22.

Story goes that a German ex – serviceman’s association applied for permission to lay a wreath, in memory of their fallen comrades, at the memorial to the battle in the town of Arnhem itself. Permission denied, so they laid the wreath, anyway.

With some ceremony, the wreath was thrown into the Rhine…

John H.
John H.
September 19, 2024 9:28 pm

Cassie of Sydney

 September 19, 2024 7:41 pm

Credlin is evidently a right leaning feminist.

That doesn’t necessarily make her a conservative.

Has she ever articulated her political philosophy?

I’m a ‘right leaning feminist’ and a conservative. I think Credlin is the same. Whilst we might disagree on some things, I think most women here on this blog are like me. I don’t think early feminism was such a bad thing. I am the daughter of a very opinionated and strong willed woman who was a founding member of Women’s Electoral Lobby. My mother taught her daughters to be tough but I’m not as tough as my mother because I didn’t drink the water she drank when she was growing up, I really think there was something quite unique in the water of this country from federation to the late 1950s that produced extraordinary women, such as my mother, my grandmothers, my aunts and grand-aunts. They were not shrinking violets.

The change had to happen. My sister left academia to start a company in a completely different field. She experienced discrimination because women aren’t smart or tough enough to start a business. Her business won consecutive national awards in the category. There was so much winning the following year they went for something completely novel and still came third. She retired young but to this day is still sought out for advice.

Feminism eventually demonstrated irrational positions but initially it opened the door for millions of women to exercise greater freedom. Expecting political purity in this age of diverse opinions and beliefs is irrational. The population now is not like in the 50’s. Voting patterns reveal a widespread discontent with historical positions adopted by political parties. It is going to be a rough ride with many weird ideas being produced. I’d like to think people are searching for a new political philosophy but in these days the voting pattern mostly comes down to Dostoevsky: let me have my tea and the world can go to hell. Dangerous times.

JC
JC
September 19, 2024 9:39 pm

MSNBC watchers are perfectly normal functioning human beings.

Reason given why Putin would be scared shitless of Kamaltoe.

No really.

MSNBC guest says Putin will be deterred by Kamala Harris because she’s the product of a mixed marriage

MSNBC Host: “Wow.”

Don’t believe me.. then watch the vid.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
September 19, 2024 9:50 pm

This is another excellent channel from Azerbaijan. The other being Wilderness Cooking. No narration, just the sounds of nature and farm life combined withe stunning scenery and excellent videography.

It’s worth your time. Babuska always works like and machine.

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Country Life Vlog:

In today’s video, we’re making a delicious and tangy treat — Stuffed Pickled Green Tomatoes! This unique recipe combines the fresh crunch of green tomatoes with a flavorful stuffing of herbs and spices, all preserved in a brine that brings out their zesty goodness. It’s a year-round delight that adds a burst of flavor to any meal.

Watch as we carefully prepare the green tomatoes, stuff them with a savory mixture, and then pickle them using a traditional method that ensures they stay crisp and tasty for months. This is a perfect way to enjoy the garden’s bounty throughout the year and a wonderful addition to your winter pantry. Whether served as a side dish, appetizer, or snack, these stuffed pickled tomatoes are sure to impress!

Stuffed Pickled Green Tomatoes: A Year-Round Delight

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 19, 2024 9:51 pm

From the Anthony Beevor title on the Battle for Arnhem

General Lewis Brereton, commander of First Allied Airborne Army, a “small, difficult man” was such a compulsive womanizer that his activities provoked a severe rebuke from General George C. Marshall, the American chief of staff and a man of the strictest moral rectitude.”

That would have been an “Officer’s Annual Evaluation Report” worth reading….

“General Brereton is advised to spend more time leading his men, and less time trying to get his willy wet…”

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
September 19, 2024 9:56 pm

The Mocker at his finest. Worth cutting out and giving to those described!

Yep Top Ender. Cut/Pasted/Saved and shared. Best ever from the Mocker.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
September 19, 2024 10:07 pm

Audience Members Leave Rally as Trump Gives Incoherent Answers on Manufacturing, Food: A Closer LookLate Night with Seth Meyers

When asked what the main threat to Michigan manufacturing jobs was, he said it was nuclear weapons.

Just reporting this out of a concern for balance. 🙂

John H.
John H.
September 19, 2024 10:33 pm

Attempts to explain this phenomenon typically focus on national policy issues. I don’t understand why so many countries are experiencing this problem. One possible explanation is that modern life presents so many lifestyle choices having children is no longer the only choice approved by the culture.

Russia is encouraging millions to have sex at work to address rapidly tumbling birthrate | news.com.au — Australia’s leading news site

Indolent
Indolent
September 19, 2024 10:54 pm
Indolent
Indolent
September 19, 2024 10:59 pm
Indolent
Indolent
September 19, 2024 11:00 pm

@BreannaMorello

I lost my job at Fox Corp because of the ILLEGAL NYC private sector vaccine mandate.

When I told Fox’s HR this mandate was ILLEGAL and poorly written–they told me they were going to comply anyways.

Here’s the guy behind the mandate saying he was having drug-fueled orgies while locking down the rest of the city.

Indolent
Indolent
September 19, 2024 11:03 pm

@TheRabbitHole84

“Whatever the Party holds to be the truth, is truth. It is impossible to see reality except by looking through the eyes of the Party.”

— O’Brien (1984 by George Orwell)

Misinformation experts largely lean in a single direction politically. This skew can, will, and does impact which information is deemed legitimate or not.

Indolent
Indolent
September 19, 2024 11:13 pm
Indolent
Indolent
September 19, 2024 11:15 pm
Indolent
Indolent
September 19, 2024 11:16 pm
Frank
Frank
September 19, 2024 11:24 pm

What happened to dot? I was away for a few weeks and he disappeared.

KevinM
KevinM
September 20, 2024 12:39 am

dover0beach
September 19, 2024 11:53 pm

Israel didn’t tamper with Hezbollah’s exploding pagers, it made them – New York Times

Lots of bullshit stories being put out at the moment about this incident. I wouldn’t believe any of it.

Exactly, I’ve read that link to see what’s behind it, utter rubbish about the Hungarian manufacturer. Besides nobody ever heard of any such factory.

You don’t set up a sophisticated manufacturing facility to make a few thousand units when you have no chance of competing with China, Japan Taiwan etc.

I give my 2 cents worth of opinion, I’d rather tip China, there must be a few corrupt businessmen there, or Israel simply replacing the batteries and a small additional circuit. simple and elegant.

The hardest bit is to make Hetzbolloks to buy them in preference to other brands.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 20, 2024 1:39 am

Exploding pagers and walkie-talkies, eh?
What will go off next?
Their Sony Walkmans?
The telex machine?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 20, 2024 1:42 am

dover0beach
 September 19, 2024 11:53 pm

Israel didn’t tamper with Hezbollah’s exploding pagers, it made them – New York Times

Lots of bullshit stories being put out at the moment about this incident. I wouldn’t believe any of it.

Simply an unfortunate case of simultaneous spontaneous combustion I’d say.
Just bad luck.
Move on (if you can walk, that is).
🙂

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
September 20, 2024 3:23 am

Long live the Honey Badger. Boss!

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Steve Inman:

Honey Badger vs. Leopard Gang

Tom
Tom
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Tom
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Tom
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Tom
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Tom
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Tom
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Tom
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Tom
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Beertruk
September 20, 2024 6:01 am

Editorial in today’s Tele:

SHAMEFUL OZ WEAK AT THE UN
20 Sep 2024

With every passing year since 1945, the decision by numerous countries to remain neutral during World War II appears more morally shameful.

Occasional protests by some nations that they didn’t know the full extent of Hitler’s evil until war’s end are simply not credible.

Those countries will forever bear a level of shame for standing by rather than standing up to Hitler and his Nazis. But what then do we make of Australia’s abstention from a United Nations vote calling for an end to “Israeli occupation of the Palestinian Territories”?

All civilised Australians, up to and including the Australian government, are completely aware of Hamas’s brutality against Israel — brutality most shockingly and unforgivably displayed on October 7, 2023.

A proper Australian response to that UN vote would have been to oppose it. To reject it. To dash it against the rocks of history.

Instead, Australia merely abstained. Even worse, as The Daily Telegraph reports, Foreign Affairs Minister Penny Wong actually said Australia would have voted for the Hamas-appeasing motion if various amendments has been included.

Seriously. Little wonder, then, that the Executive Council of Australian Jewry’s Peter Wertheim described Australia’s position as “morally cowardly”.

Little wonder, too, that Liberal leader Peter Dutton angrily and justifiably contrasted the current Labor government’s stance on Israel with the far more empathetic and ethically sound position of previous Labor and Coalition administrations.

Declaring that the Albanese government should have joined the US, Israel and other nations in rejecting the UN’s proposal, Dutton told 2GB: “That’s exactly what the Hawke government would have done, it’s what a Howard government would have done, it’s what an Abbott government would have done.”

Dutton is absolutely correct. Moreover, those governments took the correct view even without the overwhelming moral impetus of October 7’s atrocities. History is calling.

Labor needs to be on the right side of it.

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Beertruk
September 20, 2024 6:19 am

Today’s Daily Tele:

MISINFORMATION IS JUST 21ST CENTURY BLASPHEMY

MATT – CANAVAN
20 Sep 2024

In 1871 William Lorando Jones gave a speech in Parramatta to about 100 people during which he claimed that the Bible was “the most immoral book ever published”, that Moses was a “cruel old wretch” and that the Israelites were “robbers and murderers”.

Lorando was charged with blasphemy – the indictment claimed that he was “a wicked and evil disposed person” – and a Judge subsequently sentenced him to two years in jail.

There was a public outcry and four weeks later Lorando was released.

It was the last time someone was charged with blasphemy in NSW, to date at least.

Last week the federal government tabled in parliament a modern spin on blasphemy laws. The words have been updated.

Anyone that has the temerity to engage their free speech rights will now be guilty of spreading misinformation.

Notionally, these laws are there to protect us from wicked and evil people that spread lies on social media.

According to the government’s own explanatory materials for the bill, these devious people can even go as far as causing people to have “lower confidence in government, and lower trust in scientific institutions.” The horror!

The government gets more specific when it highlights that its misinformation laws could help silence people that spread “false, misleading or deceptive information about … referendum proposals”.

Keep in mind that these laws come just a year after the Australian people comprehensively said no to Labor’s Voice referendum proposal.

Rather than accept that the Australian people had a different view to him, Anthony Albanese blamed his loss on misinformation.

Misinformation laws are not there to protect you, they are there to protect the powerful from scrutiny.

The laws only suppress views that cause “serious harm”.

But serious harm is defined broadly and can mean anything from causing harm to electoral processes, public health measures (like lockdowns), the Australian economy or even “public confidence in the banking system”.

Why the Labor Party thinks the major banks deserve protection from criticism (after the shocking examples of their misconduct were exposed in the Royal Commission) remains unexplained. Further, we only recently lived through a situation where our banking system was engaged in the reckless financing of mortgage- backed securities.

That conduct destroyed the global economy. Yet under these laws people that question any future excessive financial speculation could be silenced.

It is now clear that many of the pandemic measures were excessive and costly. Some children may never recover the learning deficiencies accumulated from homeschooling and mask-wearing.

The AstraZeneca vaccine, which was previously marketed as “safe and effective”, had its approval cancelled.

No one expects our rulers to get every decision right, but if we exempt them from criticism and accountability, a lot more mistakes will be made.

And even on electoral process, while we are lucky to have one of the best electoral systems in the world, it is not perfect. Just a few years ago, the Australian Electoral Commission lost 1375 West Australian Senate ballots and the election had to be redone at a cost of $20 million.

These misinformation laws would make it harder for anyone to expose future anomalies, which are guaranteed to occur at some point. The laws also exempt the media. This week we found out that the ABC aired doctored footage to accuse an Australian soldier of war crimes.

Why should an average Australian be gagged by these laws but the media not subject to them at all?

And, while I am on our armed forces, the laws do not define misinformation about our armed forces as “serious harm”.

While I do not support the laws at all, it shows Labor’s priorities that it would defend politicians, the banks, public health overlords and the ABC, ahead of our own soldiers.

After Lorando was released in 1871, a writer to the Illawarra Mercury lamented that “an impious and most foul mouthed reprobate” had been converted into a “martyr”, and that if instead he had been treated as “any other nuisance, neither he nor his crime would have been heard of”.

It remains wise advice today. The government’s clumsy and ham-fisted misinformation laws are worse than being ineffective, they will make things worse.

Any attempt to silence so-called misinformation will spread it further. It would make much more sense for our government to treat its people with more respect for our overall good sense.

Lies can simply be rebutted, cranks can be ignored and, most of all, politicians, bankers and journalists can all lift our game and not engage in misinformation ourselves.

Matt Canavan is LNP Senator for Queensland

1735099
1735099
September 20, 2024 6:26 am

1968 is a year I remember very well.
I had begun a teaching career, turned twenty-one (which had greater significance back then) and had reported in Warwick for my national service medical.
Bobby Kennedy was assassinated on my birthday, and I was passed A1 after my medical. Both these events effectively sealed my fate when it came to the following two years, as they combined to send me to Vietnam.
If I had failed my medical, or if Kennedy had the same luck as Trump, my experience would have been very different. When Kennedy announced that he was seeking the Democratic nomination, he made it clear that his campaign agenda prioritised opposition to the war in Vietnam over racial division and the problem of the cities.
From his announcement speech – I run to seek new policies – policies to end the bloodshed in Vietnam and in our cities, policies to close the gaps that now exist between black and white, between rich and poor, between young and old, in this country and around the rest of the world.
Whether or not his election as US President would have been timely enough to begin a withdrawal of US troops, and whether the Coalition would have followed quickly in this country will of course never be known, but it is feasible.
When Nixon was elected he talked about “peace with honour”, but nevertheless began an indiscriminate bombing programme in Cambodia which led, amongst other things, to the killing fields.
Those events in 1968 demonstrate a frightening symmetry with what has so far occured in 2024. Then as now, the incumbent Democratic president did not seek re-election (Lyndon Johnson’s decision); there were two assassinations back then, both successful, (Martin Luther King and Bobby Kennedy); and two this year, both unsuccessful; and the Democratic convention was be held in Chicago. The most significant difference between 1968 and 2024 is that the assassination attempts were unsuccessful.
The 1968 Convention was a landmark event which vividly demonstrated the deep divisions within the Democrats, but more significantly within the US community.
Those divisions are duplicated in 2024, even if the fault lines are different, but violence is always simmering just below the surface.
I’m reminded of two cliches that go hand in hand when it comes to that country across the Pacific. One is that violence is as American as apple pie, and the other is that history doesn’t repeat, but it rhymes.
However you look at it, the US is clearly at a crossroads now just as it was in 1968. By the time Saigon fell in 1975, fifty-seven thousand Americans, millions of Vietnamese, and five hundred Australians had died as a result of decisions made in the US. Many decisions had been made before those events in 1968, but many were made after that pivotal year. A reading of the Pentagon Papers is informative.
Let’s hope that the cadence of the rhyme fails, because if it doesn’t, and more deadly conflict ensues, there will be consequences for Australians, just as there were in 1968, and many will be negative.
Based on my personal experience, Australians who want to should be allowed to register and vote in the US. Our sovereignty has been lost, and forty percent of Yanks can’t be bothered to vote, or are discouraged by their crazy electoral system.

KevinM
KevinM
September 20, 2024 6:28 am

A woman of firm resolve.
Not much else, but good on her.

virg
Beertruk
September 20, 2024 6:29 am

Letters to the Editor today’s Daily Tele:

Parenting is the issue

20 Sep 2024

Yesterday while waiting for my bus I heard the familiar sound of an online poker machine game I regularly play.

On looking up I was shocked to see the player was a 8-9-year-old boy.

His apparent mother was standing nearby smoking in a no smoking area.

Sure, impose age limits and regulations on social media platforms but that won’t stop the misuse of these apps by misguided teenagers.

The real regulatory control should be the parents.

Good luck to any government which can alter “ the not responsible” parenting of today.

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KevinM
KevinM
September 20, 2024 6:37 am

For God’s sake numbers, when will you stop?

One would think that the Vietnam war was started for your benefit, so that you’d have something to gripe, write and talk about for the rest of your life.

Man, it’s over, had been for a lifetime, give it a bloody rest will you?

1735099
1735099
September 20, 2024 6:42 am

Every now and again, wee Johhny gets it right.
First time was 1996 with the NFA.
Now he’s made sense around US politics –
Former Prime Minister John Howard says he could never bring himself to vote for Donald Trump.
Mr Howard, 85, said the former US president’s refusal to accept the results of the 2020 US election made him effectively unfit lead the country again. 
RTWT – https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13869519/John-Howard-reveals-presidential-candidate-never-vote-issues-stinging-four-word-down.html

132andBush
132andBush
September 20, 2024 6:49 am

I think Numbers just endorsed Trump.

A short autobiography with emphasis on the two assassinated figures and how they were the ones who would’ve solved all the problems.

Skip to present day and we have this:

Let’s hope that the cadence of the rhyme fails,

Indeed, it’s failing so far and lets hope it continues and Trump remains alive and is elected and starts sorting the mess out (again).

Based on my personal experience, Australians who want to should be allowed to register and vote in the US. Our sovereignty has been lost, and forty percent of Yanks can’t be bothered to vote, or are discouraged by their crazy electoral system.

Numbers also endorses interfering in another countries’ elections.

Cassie of Sydney
September 20, 2024 6:58 am

The perseverant appears!

He was in Vietnam in 1968.

He was a teacher.

He is an old embittered communist.

He hates people who work hard, he hates people who are successful, he hates people who get ahead in life, he hates Jews, he hates Israel, he hates private schools, he hates the Liberal party of Australia, but you wanna know what he truly hates….

he hates himself.

Beertruk
September 20, 2024 6:58 am

1735099  September 20, 2024 6:26 am

Zero Alpha…One One…weak and unreadable…One One OUT!!!

calli
calli
September 20, 2024 7:01 am

Oh my! The downticker is an Oliver Cromwell fanboi!

MatrixTransform
September 20, 2024 7:02 am

Problem is, you have a number of these devices all around you, and worms once out there have a habit of getting out of control.

… probably the evil genius Dr Krieger from the Archer Series

Cassie of Sydney
September 20, 2024 7:04 am

Bobby Kennedy was assassinated on my birthday,

Everything is always, always about the perseverant, even someone else’s murder.

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
September 20, 2024 7:04 am

I wonder if there have been any device explosions in fair Australia

MatrixTransform
September 20, 2024 7:05 am

They have created a worm that can infiltrate any mobile device, all run on standard operating systems and thus vulnerable, that can crank up the lithium batteries (chemical bombs) to explosion point.

cough!!

what about EVs … can the worm jump to EVs?

shatterzzz
September 20, 2024 7:13 am

“Just calling to say hi” ! .. LOL!

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johanna
johanna
September 20, 2024 7:19 am

Poor fellow UK residents:

Britain’s top diplomat has claimed that climate change represents a greater threat than terrorism or Russia to the national security of the United Kingdom.
In his first major address since the left-wing Labour Party won the general election in July, Foreign Secretary David Lammy said Tuesday that the supposed climate crisis will be “central” to his remit, despite holders of his office traditionally focussing on international relations and foreign affairs
.
“While I am foreign secretary, action on the climate and nature crisis will be central to all the Foreign Office does. This is critical given the scale of the threat, but also the scale of the opportunity,” he said according to the BBC.
“The threat may not feel as urgent as a terrorist or an imperialist autocrat. But it is more fundamental. It is systemic, it’s pervasive and accelerating towards us at pace,” Lammy claimed.

Although the government has made cuts domestically, most controversially for winter fuel subsidy payments to pensioners, Lammy said that Labour will look to help foreign countries in developing so-called renewable energy sources and to help in recovery from weather-related disasters in areas like the Caribbean.

The top UK diplomat also said that he will seek to forge a global clean power alliance, in which Britain could share expertise on the transition away from fossil fuels with other countries.
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Lammy is a menace. When it comes to blind ideology, he makes Albanese look like a clear-sighted visionary.

With five year fixed terms and FTP voting, Brits will have to endure this appalling government, which most voters did not support, while it runs what is left of Great Britain into the ground.

calli
calli
September 20, 2024 7:20 am

The Salem Witch Trials commenced on my birthday.

I find this highly significant, even though I wasn’t there…

….or was I?

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
September 20, 2024 7:20 am

Bowen claiming a move to nuclear energy would cause blackouts.
Twiggy’s tax siphon, Squadron Energy, is ringing around trying to get us to plant his fleecing towers on prime farm land.
Offering $50,000 per turbine yearly. With a tax rate of at least 37% for off-farm income that puts the actual return at the low thirties and for that you sign over virtual control of your land for twenty five years.
At the end of that period there’s no guarantee that the then owner of the turbines would decommission the asset to anyone’s satisfaction, no rules around that.
The agent is surprised at the number of times he gets told to f*ck off.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 20, 2024 7:23 am

1968 is a year I remember very well.

I had begun a teaching career, turned twenty-one (which had greater significance back then) and had

The next thousand words can be shortened to:

‘Well I was born into a middle class family……’

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 20, 2024 7:25 am

Hey. Hey, Liability Bob.

Tell the one about how your shoes were given away to wandering hobos.

Great story.

Even though you never explained how a child’s shoes could fit grown men.

Cassie of Sydney
September 20, 2024 7:31 am

In the Westminster system five year terms are way, way too long. I once thought four year terms were okay but no longer, fixed four year terms are a disaster under the Westminster system.

People forget that in both the US and French systems, whilst there are fixed four and five years terms for the presidency, they have circuit breakers such as the midterms.

shatterzzz
September 20, 2024 7:37 am

Vale Tupperware .. makers of the bestest orange peeler .. ever ..!

Peel
Cassie of Sydney
September 20, 2024 7:39 am

We have to wonder why ‘wee Bobby’ pops up here. He once piously pontificated that this blog was a haven for the crank, the far-right and neo-Nazis and yet, yet, he’s here, spraying around his sanctimonious gunk.

Perhaps he’s desperate for attention. What a sad sod he is.

I was in Vietnam….don’t you know?

shatterzzz
September 20, 2024 7:43 am

All civilised Australians, up to and including the Australian government, are completely aware of Hamas’s brutality against Israel — brutality most shockingly and unforgivably displayed on October 7, 2023.

Hamas is a terrorist organization .. the very fact that the UN is prepared to support terrorism extolls how totally pointless & useless the UN really is …….!

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Cassie of Sydney
September 20, 2024 7:50 am

Imagine if we had five year terms here? We’d have to endure another two and a half years of the grub from Grayndler.

As it is, this time next year we will probably be having to endure a minority Labor/Greens government.

Fun times ahead.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 20, 2024 7:51 am

Some interesting stuff on the pager injuries:

‘5-12 surgeries in the next few years’ – Lebanese doctor describes extent of injuries (19 Sep)

Abu Sittah said that the wounds were almost all identical. “It’s a blast to the hand, with a mangled hand. And then an explosion to the face and the eyes because people got the message, they picked up the pager, they looked at it, and it exploded in their face,” he described.

“We have facial injuries, we have penetrating injuries to the eyes, and we have amputations of the mangled hand.”

Seems to be a shaped charge pointing in the direction the screen was facing. A nice touch that the Israelis let the beeper beep long enough for them to pick it up and look at it. Obviously not all did that – the guy in the fruit shop looked to’ve been bowled middle stump from how he collapsed.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
September 20, 2024 7:53 am

Facebooky request-
any Cats with an Australian paywall key?-
A few weekends ago, 7th Sept or 31 Aug, there was a review of a pop science book on serendipity in astronomy- can anyone give me the title, or anyone picked it up with a recommendation?

Rosie
Rosie
September 20, 2024 7:55 am

“The Lebanese economy is in tatters. Almost everyone living in Lebanon is living off diaspora remittances. State has stopped supplying electricity, water, or collecting trash regularly. Police is tanking and crime is surging. Poverty is so widespread that the World Food Program is feeding over one third of the population.”
Killing Jews is the most important thing for these muslims, always was, always will be
https://x.com/hahussain/status/1836823577297055918?t=zAQVMXLpNsUPrLlf4nWAlA&s=19

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 20, 2024 7:55 am

Meanwhile the IAF has been busy.

IDF strikes 100 launchers and about 1,000 barrels in southern Lebanon (19 Sep)

Over the last two hours, directed by IDF intelligence, the IAF struck hundreds of rocket launcher barrels that were ready to be used immediately to fire toward Israeli territory, the IDF Spokesperson’s Unit said.

That suggests the uninjured Hezbies got orders to pull launchers out of the caves and set up to fire a large barrage. But the IAF was ready and waiting.

calli
calli
September 20, 2024 7:58 am

The trouble with Tupperware is that it lasts so long. I still have my pie carriers that have seen many, many campaigns. Fifty years old and still have their handles.

And let’s not forget the genius beetroot plunger!

vintage-tupperware-pie-carrier-Google-Search
Barking Toad
Barking Toad
September 20, 2024 7:59 am

Henry Ergas in the Oz blasts the fornication agreement between Labor and Greens… an extract:

In the end, that is a question of morality. And it is sadly true that political parties more readily sacrifice 99 per cent of their principles than 1 per cent of their votes.

But it is every bit as true that the symbiotic relationship between Labor as the host and the Greens as the parasite, which was once mutually beneficial, has mutated into one in which the parasite, sensing the host is in terminal decline, turns on the host, extracting as much as it can, as quickly as it can. Confident it can prosper despite the host’s demise, its change in strategy makes that demise all the quicker and more certain.
?
That is the trap Labor is now in. Whether it has the will, the skill and most of all, the moral courage to pull out of it is another matter entirely.

Rosie
Rosie
September 20, 2024 8:01 am

“I wouldn’t believe any of it.”
Of course, it beggars belief that Hezbollah would be so stupid as to buy their communication equipment from an Israeli front.
Still, someone did something.

lotocoti
lotocoti
September 20, 2024 8:06 am

Lammy is a menace.

Lammy is an idiot.
?

Roger
Roger
September 20, 2024 8:08 am

Mr Howard, 85, said the former US president’s refusal to accept the results of the 2020 US election made him effectively unfit lead the country again. 

The electoral shenanigans of the Democrats however…no problem!

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calli
calli
September 20, 2024 8:10 am
Eyrie
Eyrie
September 20, 2024 8:11 am

Problem is, you have a number of these devices all around you, and worms once out there have a habit of getting out of control.

See SF writer John Barnes. A series of novels posit self aware computer viruses which decide human wetware is just another operating system so just about everyone is running one.
OTOH that seems to have happened already and didn’t need electronic computers.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
September 20, 2024 8:11 am

They are trying the BS again!
Daily Mail UK says “new” international study shows it was the market and not a lab leak.
Scientist leading the new study is Kristian Andersen who was one of the original small group of Fauci”s mates who expressed concern it was from lab and then changed their minds. By coincidence he later received a big grant from Fauci.
However the comments reveal the public no longer believe market origin story.

Roger
Roger
September 20, 2024 8:12 am

Hezbollah leader whining that Israel has broken the rules.

Reminded me of this.

Chortle.

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Rosie
Rosie
September 20, 2024 8:16 am

“Besides nobody ever heard of any such factory.
You don’t set up a sophisticated manufacturing facility to make a few thousand units when you have no chance of competing with China, Japan Taiwan etc”
I’m pretty sure the article went on to suggest the factory was in Belarus or Bulgaria?
Pretty sure it had to be somewhere though, the pagers were real, and the walkie-talkies.
And lol on the purpose.
If your purpose is to sell sabotaged units to terrorist rather than compete with China etc for a share of the commercial market you might.
A few loss leaders to look legitimate though.
And you seem to forget Gold Apollo is aTaiwanese company who licensed BAC to produce this model.

Winston Smith
Winston Smith
September 20, 2024 8:19 am

John H/Cassie:  September 19, 2024 7:41 pm

Feminism eventually demonstrated irrational positions but initially it opened the door for millions of women to exercise greater freedom.

Feminism became a skin suit for the Left, with predictable results.

Indolent
Indolent
September 20, 2024 8:20 am

I was tossing up whether to link this or not but it seems to be all over the place.

@charliekirk11

According to Congressman Matt Gaetz, the Department of Homeland Security knows of at least FIVE assassination teams currently in the US that are targeting President Trump.

Gaetz says a senior official at the DHS confirmed these details and added, “At least three of which are foreign that are out to kill Trump.”

So why was Trump’s second would-be assassin, Ryan Routh, allowed back into the country after spending 8 months in Ukraine recruiting foreign fighters?

GAETZ: “And the Customs and Border Patrol [CBP] thought his story was so suspicious that he was recruiting freedom fighters all over the world to go fight in Ukraine… they asked him how he was financing this, he said, ‘Oh, well, my wife is paying for it.’ And that seemed odd, and, so, the CBP officials referred Ryan Routh to the Department of Homeland Security’s investigations unit to determine what was going on, and they declined to even proceed with an investigation. They just stopped and let the guy in the country. And we’ve got a lot of questions about that.”

What is going on here?!

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 20, 2024 8:20 am

1735099
 September 20, 2024 6:26 am

1968 is a year I remember very well.

I was as popular as a second-hand Hezbollah pager.

And still am.

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Indolent
Indolent
September 20, 2024 8:21 am
Miltonf
Miltonf
September 20, 2024 8:23 am

Is Howard slagging off at Trump again? My dislike of Howard continues to grow.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 20, 2024 8:23 am

However the comments reveal the public no longer believe market origin story.

I’ve long thought both are true…that the lab techs were selling the lab animals in the wet market for a bit of side money. Thereby causing the “lab leak”. If the Chinese are capable of putting toxic melamine in baby powder to save some pennies then they’d certainly be willing to sell infected animals in the nearby market.

Indolent
Indolent
September 20, 2024 8:30 am
Roger
Roger
September 20, 2024 8:30 am

These migration numbers don’t lie: the intake’s still too high

Judith Sloan, The Australian, 19 September, 2024

Australia has one of the highest rates of population growth among advanced economies. At 2.3 per cent a year, we are adding more than 600,000 persons to the population annually. This addition is almost entirely due to immigration which, in theory, the government could control. The existence of multiple open-ended visa classes and the Department of Home Affairs acting essentially as administrators, subject to ministerial directions, mean that the numbers entering the country each year are largely unconstrained. This is subject to the speed at which the public servants can process the visa applications.

But the incoming Labor government obliged by significantly ramping up departmental resources – a decision taken by then home affairs minister Clare O’Neil – to quickly allow in more migrants, particularly international students.

The numbers tell the story. In the numbers released on Thursday by the Australian Bureau of Statistics for the March quarter, the total population grew by 615,000 over the year. Net overseas migration contributed 510,000 of that increase – or 83 per cent. That is a staggering picture: the rate of natural increase is stalling and the birthrate is falling, but there is an ongoing surge in the migrant intake.

From the end of last year, the federal government claimed to be restricting the number of new international students by changing the financial and language requirements and implementing Ministerial Direction 107, which has led to higher visa rejection rates for students from certain countries. The trouble is that there is no indication in these figures that the changes are having any impact in net terms.

Let’s not forget that the government, on the advice of Treasury, expects net overseas migration for last financial year to come in at 395,000, having been revised upwards from 375,000. With the figures for the first three-quarters already in the locker, that figure has nearly been reached.

The NOM for last financial year will likely exceed 500,000, which contrasts with a pre-Covid average this century closer to 240,000. There’s really Buckley’s chance that the NOM target for this financial year of 260,000 will be met; there will be a significant overshoot.

For all the carry-on about wanting to reduce the migrant intake, it is obvious that the government doesn’t really want to see the numbers significantly lower. It’s how GDP has continued to grow while per capita GDP has gone backwards for six quarters in a row. We may be avoiding a technical recession but so what: living standards are falling.

One key reason why the population numbers are important is that they are feeding into aggregate demand and thereby weakening any case for an interest rate reduction. We see this in the labour force figures, also released on Thursday, in which the unemployment rate remained essentially steady. In effect, the ongoing inflows of new migrants are being absorbed into the jobs market, often undertaking part-time work.

No doubt the government will now point to its policy of capping international student numbers – at 270,000 new enrolments in 2025 – as an indication of its determination to reduce net migration. The fact is that this number is too high, and the cap will be gamed by the educational institutions.

Many will front-end their enrolments in the first half of the year in the expectation that the government will soften its stance after the election. And many, if not most, regional universities will offer international students the option of studying in the major cities – many have offices in Sydney and Melbourne – which will undermine the intention of the policy to reduce the pressure on housing and other amenities in those cities.

The bottom line is that immigration remains out of control and it’s hard to take seriously any pledges made by the government to significantly reduce the numbers. The British experience shows, notwithstanding the public’s full support to restrict immigration after Brexit, that the Tory government utterly failed to reduce the numbers – of both legal and illegal immigration.

There are strong forces at play – universities, property developers, certain businesses, some ethnic groups, even Treasury bureaucrats – that oppose any cuts to migrant intakes, and their influence is apparently stronger than public opinion.

The Opposition has promised to reduce immigration to 160 000 per year.

But that’s still at Howard’s post 2001 Ponzi levels and presumably with no adjustment to the country of origin mix, another Howard legacy that has impacted on social cohesion.

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Rosie
Rosie
September 20, 2024 8:30 am
duncanm
duncanm
September 20, 2024 8:31 am

Oh shit… pop in only occasionally these days, but numbers is back?

Indolent
Indolent
September 20, 2024 8:32 am
Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 20, 2024 8:32 am

Roger
 September 20, 2024 8:12 am

Hezbollah leader whining that Israel has broken the rules.

I heard reference on the radio news this morning that “a red line had been crossed”.
There was no reporting as to what colour line was crossed on October 7th.

m0nty
m0nty
September 20, 2024 8:35 am

Hoo boy, that Mark Robinson stuff. Weird.

Rosie
Rosie
September 20, 2024 8:35 am

Was Tupperware still being sold via party plan?
I never saw it being sold anywhere, other then extortionist prices second hand in charity shops, I’d assumed it was already a relic of the past.
Supermarkets run half price specials on plastic wear every other week
I’m not surprised invisible Tupperware is leaving the market.
(Google tells me there is a website).

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Winston Smith
Winston Smith
September 20, 2024 8:38 am

https://newcatallaxy.blog/2024/09/19/open-thread-thurs-19-sept-2024/#comment-789500

Audience Members Leave Rally as Trump Gives Incoherent Answers on Manufacturing, Food: A Closer LookLate Night with Seth Meyers

When asked what the main threat to Michigan manufacturing jobs was, he said it was nuclear weapons.

Just reporting this out of a concern for balance. ?

https://amgreatness.com/2024/09/19/can-harriss-cynical-run-out-the-clock-campaign-succeed/
VDH missive on the Harris ploy to ‘run out the clock’.

To make that distinction stark, Harris must demonize and bait Trump nonstop and make the country fear him.

So, she paints Trump as a racist and violent insurrectionist, not a former president whose four-year term saw a superior foreign policy, economy, border, and security than during the Biden-Harris term.

Instead, Harris has repeatedly claimed Trump is a dictator and a threat to democracy—as if he had politically weaponized the FBI, CIA, DOJ, or IRS as had Barack Obama and Joe Biden.

I really hope the smiley was a genuine one, denoting sarcasm. Otherwise you’ve been conned badly by your first link.

Indolent
Indolent
September 20, 2024 8:38 am
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Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 20, 2024 8:43 am

For a long time my favourite on-line videos were the compilations of the lefty media head explosions the night Trump was elected in 2016.
I think the “poppin’ pagers” compilations could be my new favourite.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
September 20, 2024 8:44 am

Please explain.
Albotross’ buccaneers edition.
https://x.com/i/status/1836872898163687920

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 20, 2024 8:46 am

A few more statistics from the Vietnam war-

After the Northern victory, in April 1975, 60 – 70,000 South Vietnamese were summarily executed. Another 80-90,000 people died from malnutrition, disease and brutal treatment in the “re-education” camps, and some 2,000,000 people became the “boat people” or fled across Laos to Thailand.
It’s estimated half of the boat people died at sea from drowning or were murdered by pirates.

“Reunification” was just so benevolent, wasn’t it?

Chris
Chris
September 20, 2024 8:49 am

Zero Alpha…One One…weak and unreadable…One One OUT!!!

Scene: A gun pit, 2:30 am.
Voice from darkness: Aussie soldier…. Aussie soldier…. Honh. you rike communist?

Camera pulls back. Gun pit is in front of base cinema

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 20, 2024 8:58 am

The latest bizarre episode in Victorian “justice” is a Ballarat magistrate dropping all charges against Sporty Beemer diabetic guy at the committal stage.
He treated this dickhead like he had been victim of a sudden heart attack or seizure behind the wheel.
Not someone who had knowingly continued driving after multiple warnings that his blood sugar was going low.

m0nty
m0nty
September 20, 2024 9:00 am

Fair play to Mossad for that pager lark. Hezbollah can pound sand. I see leftists whining about war crimes but I am red-pilled on this one, it’s war where no mission is ever perfect, this one is about as targeted as you are ever going to get with an opponent fighting guerilla-style.

I also see people whining about the precedent it sets… well yeah if you buy a device secretly injected with a special chemical then you’re in trouble but it’s not as if it’s an easy vector for terrorism.

If airlines start banning electronic devices for fear that one of them might explode mid-flight, that would be a problem. I haven’t heard anything about that yet.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
September 20, 2024 9:04 am

Pauline Hansons Please Explain cartoon is up and is about Misinformation Bill. Even Joe Rogan gets a mention which is a good point.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 20, 2024 9:15 am

Ex-WA premier Mark McGowan heckled by students about Banksia Hill during Curtin University visit
Caitlyn RintoulThe West Australian
Fri, 20 September 2024 2:00AM

Popular former WA premier Mark McGowan has been left furious after being confronted by a mob of angry students while on a private visit to Curtin University.
Mr McGowan, who quit politics last year, was surrounded by the jeering students at the university’s Bentley campus on Wednesday.
They yelled abuse at him as he walked through in a troubling incident condemned by the university executive and student guild.
The former leader was subjected to a torrent of abuse that included being labelled a “murderer”, torturer” as well as an “a…hole”.
Footage shared online shows one student lambasting him and confronting him about a recent suicide in WA’s juvenile detention system.
“It’s a f…ing disgrace! What do you have to say about the 17-year-old that killed himself in the (system) that you set up,” the woman yells.
The woman appearing to hurl the most insults at Mr McGowan was pictured wearing a keffiyeh scarf and appeared to record the incident on a phone while following him.
A caption accompanying the footage crowed: “Mark McGowan getting rekt by Left Action.”
Left Action is an activist group based at the university.
Footage circulating on social media also showed other students joining in with the woman, chanting: “F..k the ALP. Four, five, six, f..k the rich!”

Roger
Roger
September 20, 2024 9:24 am

I see Toad posted an extraction this piece from Henry Ergas above, but it deserves posting in full.

It’s time for Labor to junk the crazed Greens

Henry Ergas, The Australian, 20 September 2024

Historically, Australia’s major parties have never condoned the use of violence as a means of achieving political objectives. The Greens’ decision to whitewash last week’s anti-Israel riots in Melbourne therefore marks a grim moment in Australian political history. It is, of course, true that the Greens have a long record of advocating lawlessness. Already in 2019, the party’s leader, Richard Di Natale, vaunted the Greens’ “strong and proud tradition” of breaking the law. Describing himself as the only Green parliamentarian who had “not yet” been arrested, Di Natale claimed it was entirely “appropriate” to breach “bad laws” – that is, laws with which the Greens, but not a democratically elected parliament, disagreed.

But even with that record behind them, excusing the violence that left 27 police officers injured has taken the Greens’ defence of illegality to new and dangerous heights.

At least originally, when their focus was on the environment, the Greens’ disdain for the law reflected a mindset dominated by premonitions of the end of days. Showing all the hallmarks of an apocalyptic eschatology – that is, a vision that combines a terrifying image of the last things with an announcement of their impending arrival – that mindset centred on the “climate catastrophe”.

The Greens were hardly alone in advancing climate-related prophecies of doom. Decades before Greta Thunberg burst on the scene, James Hansen had warned that there was a small, rapidly shrinking, window of time in which to prevent a “world-ending cataclysm”.

Echoing Hansen’s call, UK and Dutch prime ministers Tony Blair and Jan Peter Balkenende claimed in 2006 that without dramatic, globally co-ordinated action, a “catastrophic tipping point” would inevitably and irreversibly be crossed by 2023 at the very latest. And UN secretary-general Ban Ki Moon further shortened the time that remained to “save the planet”, saying in 2006 that it was only if global emissions had stopped growing by 2019 that “catastrophic consequences” could be avoided.

Given those visions of humanity quaking in the antechamber of its own extinction, it is hardly surprising that Bill McKibben urged protesters to do whatever they could to disrupt “business as usual”, so “we’ll at least be able to say we fought”. Democratic niceties, James Lovelock asserted, had to be “put on hold”, as protesters forced governments to impose on voters the immense sacrifices needed to avert “Gaia’s revenge”.

Nor is it surprising that anyone who dared question those propositions was denounced as a “climate denier”, implying, through the deliberate rhetorical proximity to “Holocaust denier”, not just normal fallibility but wilful error at its most morally abhorrent.

That descent from righteousness to self-righteousness, and from self-righteousness to the apology of violence, would have been chillingly familiar to those who know the history of apocalyptic movements.

As Norman Cohn showed in his landmark The Pursuit of the Millennium (1957), apocalyptic movements invariably involve the “phantasies found in paranoia”, including the “megalomaniac view of oneself as the elect, wholly good, abominably persecuted yet assured of ultimate triumph”, along with “the refusal to accept the ineluctable limitations of human existence, such as fallibility, intellectual or moral”.

It was “phantasies” of that ilk that prompted the great Protestant reformer Philip Melanchthon (1497-1560) to coin the modern term “fanatics” for the Anabaptists, who “think with their blood, not their brains”, elevating rage above reason.

But what made that collective paranoia especially dangerous, said Cohn, was its “attribution of gigantic and demonic powers to the adversary”. “The distraught saw God and the devil locked in battle for men’s souls”; if the children of light could not destroy the children of darkness, “the end of the world would surely follow”.

And more often than not, the children of darkness were “the supremely powerful, always stubborn, ever-deceitful Jews”.

Of course, the Greens jettisoned God long ago; but they could never do without Satan. The “climate catastrophe” had imbued them with a deeply Manichean view of the world, pitting absolute good against absolute evil. As they morphed from environmental activists into a coalition of wildly disparate groups – ranging from “Queers for Gaza” to virulently homophobic Islamists who would happily crucify any “queers” they could get their hands on – the Manicheanism, with its consuming need for a devil on whom to pin all sin, became even more intense.

That devil, wrote French psychoanalyst Ruben Rabinovitch in his study of mobs, “fulfils two crucial functions: it serves as the mob’s ‘negative’, on to whom its members project everything threatening, wicked and corrupt; and by shifting their focus from themselves on to a single “other”, it provides the cohesion without which the precarious coalition could not survive, much less become a movement”.

Or as Greg Lukianoff and Jonathan Haidt put it, the centrifugal tendencies inherent in the extreme politicisation of identity, which fragments the public into warring tribes, propels a “common-enemy politics” whose unifying basis is not shared hopes but shared hatreds. And the greater the capacity to whip those hatreds into uncontrollable fury, the stronger is the common bond.

That “common-enemy politics” has been on display for months. Indeed, the victims of October 7 had not yet been laid to rest before the Islamists and their fellow-travellers were on Sydney’s streets, yelling “where are the Jews?”.

That was merely a prelude to incidents that include a violent demonstration at a synagogue (triggered by Burgertory boss Hash Tayeh, who was involved in last week’s protests), an assault and kidnapping at a Jewish premise, the “cancelling” of Jewish speakers, and torrents of intimidation and abuse.

It is doubtful the situation would have degenerated as seriously as it has if governments and the police had acted more promptly and more forcefully. Instead, by appeasing the mob, they fanned the violence’s flames – and encouraged the Greens’ escalation of their uncivil war on Australia’s social fabric.

There is no prospect whatsoever of the Greens changing course. On the contrary, they are broadening their offensive, taking on the defence of the CFMEU’s thugs, extortionists and racketeers. As a result, the fundamental question must be whether Labor will reward the Greens – and their extreme views – by giving them its preferences.

In the end, that is a question of morality. And it is sadly true that political parties more readily sacrifice 99 per cent of their principles than 1 per cent of their votes.

But it is every bit as true that the symbiotic relationship between Labor as the host and the Greens as the parasite, which was once mutually beneficial, has mutated into one in which the parasite, sensing the host is in terminal decline, turns on the host, extracting as much as it can, as quickly as it can. Confident it can prosper despite the host’s demise, its change in strategy makes that demise all the quicker and more certain.

That is the trap Labor is now in. Whether it has the will, the skill and most of all, the moral courage to pull out of it is another matter entirely.

Interestingly, the ALP’s post-mortem into the 2019 election result concluded, with Bill Shorten’s doublespeak on coal in view, that there was no overall electoral advantage in Labor courting the inner-city green vote.

It’s a lesson they seem incapable of internalising.

1735099
1735099
September 20, 2024 9:26 am

A few more statistics from the Vietnam war.

Happy to oblige.
American military killed – 58220
Vietnamese killed –  2 million civilians on both sides and some 1.1 million North Vietnamese and Viet Cong fighters. 
American soldiers killed by fragging – By the end of the war at least 450 officers were killed in fraggings, while the U.S. military reported at least 600 U.S. soldiers killed in fragging incidents with another 1,400 dying under mysterious circumstances. Fragging statistics include only incidents involving explosives, most commonly grenades.
Australians killed – 523, 200 of them Nashos. I saw two of them die.
Cambodians killed in the killing fields – Estimates of total deaths range from 1.7 to 2.2 million, out of a 1975 population of roughly 8 million.*
Vietnamese killed in the 1979 war with China – 57,000 soldiers and 70,000 militia.

*The Killing Fields were a direct result of the American bombing – https://gsp.yale.edu/sites/default/files/walrus_cambodiabombing_oct06.pdf

Under the heading of history repeating, shock and awe in Iraq when Iraqi infrastructure was destroyed, was largely responsible for the rise of ISIS just as the destruction of Cambodian infrastructure precipitated the rise of the Khmer Rouge. Being bombed indiscriminately tends to get people very upset, to the extent that they’ll follow the worst of evil just to get even.

It the Yanks had withdrawn in 1968, when according to the Pentagon Papers, they knew they couldn’t win, about two and a quarter million of the above deaths would have been avoided.

But Nixon wanted to get back into power using “Peace with Honour”, and they voted for him.

In country we used to say “Bloody Yanks – you can tell them anything; sell them anything”.

But they have always been slow learners with an abysmal ignorance of history.

Hence Trump….

Top Ender
Top Ender
September 20, 2024 9:32 am

Ok, I’ll bite.

What, pray tell, is a “beetroot plunger”?

?

cohenite
September 20, 2024 9:41 am

2 things in the msm:

1 little johnnie decries Trump as not compatible with democracy. Howard is Australia’s worst PM: he gave us turdball, alarmism through the Paris Agreement, didn’t close the abc and disarmed us. He personifies the fatal error of old conservatism: that there are rules and the left play by them. So Trump is not compatible with democracy because “I think Donald Trump should have left the field when the umpire’s finger went up,” he said.
“In other words, I think his refusal to accept the result of the last election and various attempts to overturn that result not compatible with democracy.
“When you play the democratic game, you’ve got to accept the democratic result.”

He is a fuking moron.

US election: Former PM John Howard says Donald Trump is ‘not compatible with democracy’ in scathing message about the Republican candidate (9news.com.au)

2 There was much squawking on talkback this morning because some brilliant media shit head had printed an answer by Trump at one of his rallies in full. So instead of the media deciphering his answers and making sense of them the full answer by Trump proved he spoke gibberish and was a nut. Richard King a leftie from 2SM led the charge. Here is Trump’s answer in full. It is, as usual, brilliant:

‘Gibberish’: Trump’s answer baffles viewers | news.com.au — Australia’s leading news site

So why did it confuse the leftoids? Because Trump incorporates the needs and wishes of the average folk in his answers. The leftoids are blind to that and their TDS automatically make his answers incomprehensible to them.

Roger
Roger
September 20, 2024 9:44 am

Hence Trump….

I knew we’d get there sooner or later.

This is why Bob is back.

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calli
calli
September 20, 2024 9:47 am

Here ya go, TE. I like Winston’s pickle basket. Time to visit Victoria’s Basement.

Over and out.

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Rosie
Rosie
September 20, 2024 9:48 am

“If airlines start banning electronic devices for fear that one of them might explode mid-flight, that would be a problem. I haven’t heard anything about that yet”
That device would be carried by a terrorist, no?
The internet experts tell the that is unpossible for pagers anyhow.
As for mobile phones, Mossad used an exploding mobile phone to kill a Gazan bomb maker back in 1996 so hopefully airlines have worked out how to detect those since then.
Though that was other way round, Israel used a plane to trigger a mobile phone bomb.

Slaying Blended Technology and Guile https://www.nytimes.com/1996/01/10/world/slaying-blended-technology-and-guile.html?smid=nytcore-android-share

johanna
johanna
September 20, 2024 9:52 am

Preliminary thought:

Do any of those here who declare this or that recent PM as ‘the worst in our history’ have any self-awareness? Their ignorance of history goes without saying.

Anyway.

Some good news for Broken Hill

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-09-20/bhm-broken-hill-mining-agreement-could-change-city-future/104371624

Decades of mining. Let’s hope that Tanya never gets near it.

Broken Hill must sit on top of one of the most productive orebodies of any town in Australia.

Roger
Roger
September 20, 2024 9:57 am

Do any of those here who declare this or that recent PM as ‘the worst in our history’ have any self-awareness? Their ignorance of history goes without saying.

Your Dutch literalism is showing.

It’s a rhetorical statement.

local oaf
September 20, 2024 9:59 am

“However the comments reveal the public no longer believe market origin story.”

I don’t even believe the lab leak theory.

Wet market was for the majority of the gullible sheep to swallow.

Lab leak was for the slightly more suspicious sheep to latch onto and provide a fallback position for the narrative .

Truth? Virus/bioweapon was deployed at an appropriate juncture.

cohenite
September 20, 2024 9:59 am

Do any of those here who declare this or that recent PM as ‘the worst in our history’ have any self-awareness? Their ignorance of history goes without saying.

Little johnnie is the worst PM in history.

Roger
Roger
September 20, 2024 10:02 am

OK…cohenite means it.

The rest of us take it as rhetorical.

Chuckles.

Rosie
Rosie
September 20, 2024 10:04 am

“#Israel did not cause every pager in #Lebanon and Syria to explode. The pagers that exploded were Hezbollah-owned, issued to Hezbollah terrorists for military communications. Military communications devices are as much a part of waging war as munitions.”
Californian democrat
https://x.com/BradSherman/status/1836855889921462770?t=8JMReMfmNkhyjS-ZGjiqYA&s=19

calli
calli
September 20, 2024 10:06 am

I thought m0nty’s comment at 9:00am was reasonable.

Roger
Roger
September 20, 2024 10:08 am

I thought m0nty’s comment at 9:00am was reasonable.

I suspect that was his wife. 😀

Anders
Anders
September 20, 2024 10:14 am

I think Donald Trump should have left the field when the umpire’s finger went up,” he said.

“In other words, I think his refusal to accept the result of the last election and various attempts to overturn that result not compatible with democracy.

Little Johhnie would have been fine if his ballots had been counted with no scrutineers present? Because that’s what happened in some places in the US.

It’s really rich to complain from Australia about US politicians not accepting democratic results when by our own election standards the US 2020 election was dodgy as hell. Recall here just a thousand ballots going missing was enough to re-run the whole WA senate election. US politicians and citizens have a right to demand better election processes.

Roger
Roger
September 20, 2024 10:15 am

On to more serious matters…

After a reportedly “tense” meeting with Harris this week, the national council of the one million member Teamsters union has declined to endorse her.

In a poll earlier this month, 58% of union members preferred Trump over Harris for POTUS.

local oaf
September 20, 2024 10:18 am

Had to happen eventually 🙂

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Indolent
Indolent
September 20, 2024 10:20 am
johanna
johanna
September 20, 2024 10:20 am

Interesting essay about the great American jurist, Clarence Thomas.

A bit to much personalia – and residual belief in ‘institutional racism’ – but I didn’t realise before what a towering figure he is in American jurisprudence.

Winston Smith
Winston Smith
September 20, 2024 10:21 am

https://newcatallaxy.blog/2024/09/19/open-thread-thurs-19-sept-2024/comment-page-2/#comment-789609
If I leave it there, it will be missed:

The British have had their government overthrown by Marxists with help from the Conservative Uniparty.

The Australians have had their government overthrown by Marxists with help from the Liberal Uniparty.

The US has had their Republican Party overthrown by the Democrat/RINO Uniparty, and with the help of the media – thoroughly infiltrated and subverted by their operatives, are about to cement their victory in 2020.

None of these governments have a 50% + 1 majority.

In fact, none of them have a 40% majority in the areas that count.

This is how Entryism and The Slow March Through The Institutions works.

johanna
johanna
September 20, 2024 10:22 am

How come when I add a kink to a comment, it disappears?

Again:

https://www.city-journal.org/article/clarence-thomas-and-me

Chris
Chris
September 20, 2024 10:34 am

How come when I add a kink to a comment, it disappears?

You play your games, I play mine.

Roger
Roger
September 20, 2024 10:36 am

How come when I add a kink to a comment, it disappears?

dover is quite strict in that regard.

cohenite’s cute owls are bad enough.

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Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 20, 2024 10:44 am

“If airlines start banning electronic devices for fear that one of them might explode mid-flight, that would be a problem. I haven’t heard anything about that yet”

As I mentioned yesterday PETN was what made the pagers go bang. It is a nitrate based explosive, and would show up easily on X ray and/or nitrate scanning.

Something like TATP could be used, it doesn’t contain nitrate but is very unstable. TATP is of course why carry on water bottles got banned, since it looks like water.

Airlines were leary of laptops for a while after 9/11, but they quietly shut up because they wanted business class customers who wanted their laptops…

Chris
Chris
September 20, 2024 10:49 am

Binned on X!
I advocated violence by responding to Guiterrez “You terrorist enablers should surely share in the punishment.”

cohenite
September 20, 2024 10:57 am

With Albanese sitting comfortably in third place.

The slapper and rub and tug are equal third.

Little johnnie established alarmism and renewables in this shit hole. He did not close the abc or truncate wokeism. He prevented nuclear and did not support fossils. As I say his conservatism is based on there being rules and the left obeying them. That type of conservatism destroys itself and little jonnie did that to the lnp, his own party, which is now a shambles, populated by faggots, pissants and quislings, as well as the society he pledged to preserve. He has the self awareness of a dead fish. All this prevents him from understanding Trump. As I also said you can measure a person by their attitude towards Trump; and on that basis little johnnie is manure.

Miltonf
Miltonf
September 20, 2024 10:57 am

Howard just continues to reveal he always been part of the problem. Anyone who could promote trumble is either stupid or despicable or both.

cohenite
September 20, 2024 11:04 am

On this basis alone iran, lebanon and gaza should be nuked:

Israel Buries Agam Naim, First Female Combat Soldier to Die in Gaza (breitbart.com)

Rosie
Rosie
September 20, 2024 11:04 am

Clarence Thomas’s autobiography is fantastic. Highly recommended. He does indeed have very personal insights into institutional racism, of which action is but one example.
Not to mention experience of racism growing up in Georgia.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 20, 2024 11:17 am

Sounds like a great Christmas present for the lefty in your family…

How a circle of spies, Blinken covered up Biden scandals: Miranda Devine’s new book exclusive (19 Sep)
New York Post, by Miranda Devine

Hopefully there isn’t a section on Kamala, it would be a great shame if the book had to be X rated.

Rosie
Rosie
September 20, 2024 11:42 am
GreyRanga
GreyRanga
September 20, 2024 11:48 am

Simultaneous spontaneous combustion is a load of codswallop by the wouldn’t have a clue.

Rosie
Rosie
September 20, 2024 11:54 am
Rosie
Rosie
September 20, 2024 12:04 pm

Just upticked Monty’s Hezbollah comment.
Obviously for some people, it’s reflective.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 20, 2024 12:32 pm

Roger
 September 20, 2024 9:10 am

 Reply to  Sancho Panzer

The prosecution reportedly stuffed up on the timing.

Stuffed up?
Or ran dead?
Like the Workcover “prosecution” over hotel quarantine which fell over because someone “accidentally” used inadmissible evidence.
The prior BGM warnings were reported in the media at the time, and it beggars belief that even a first year lawyer in the DPP office would “forget” to include that in their timeline and evidence.
I mean, there was no doubt he was incapacitated at the top of the hill before he ploughed through the people at the pub but, as I say, this was no mere sudden stroke or seizure.
It was wilfully allowing himself to descend into an incapacitated state, so the prior BGM warnings are pivotal. A half decent prosecution case would have interrogated his phone, established warning times and located which phone tower was connected to the phone at that time. They could then show he navigated miles of winding road after he had a warning that he might soon become incapacitated.
Why didn’t they put this fundamental detail in the brief?

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Salvatore - Iron Publican
September 20, 2024 12:42 pm

Wally Dalí  September 20, 2024 7:53 am

Facebooky request-

any Cats with an Australian paywall key?-

A few weekends ago, 7th Sept or 31 Aug, there was a review of a pop science book on serendipity in astronomy- can anyone give me the title, or anyone picked it up with a recommendation?

Wally, I ran a search on The Australian web edition, for ‘Astronomy + book review’
Top search result pictured – not sure this is the book you had in mind.
Entire thread of search results seem to be equally as unrelated to the topic.
Alas.

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m0nty
m0nty
September 20, 2024 12:51 pm

So, this Mark Robinson dude running for governor in North Carolina, quite a day for him after the Trump campaign unloaded on him.

According to the Trump operatives who leaked his old forum posts, Robinson is a self-confessed “black Nazi” who thinks slavery should be reintroduced, keeps a collection of miniature SS soldier figurines, swings with his sister-n-law, and loves transgender porn.

So far Robinson is resisting calls to withdraw.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 20, 2024 12:56 pm

On my earlier point, however, there is a certain incongruity between a covert intelligence operation keeping cover and then immediately babbling to this or that media organisation about how they actual performed it in the midst of it occurring.

Of course not.
And I am sure whoever did this – my money is on the Finnish – is spreading disinformation about the operation.
That will be part of the follow up psy-ops.
I’ll bet there are rumours circulating in Beirut right now about microwave ovens, toasters, vibrators and earphones.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 20, 2024 12:59 pm

Roger
 September 20, 2024 12:44 pm

 Reply to  Sancho Panzer

My rule of thumb is that incompetence is usually more likely than conspiracy, especially when it comes to state prosecutors.

That has generally been my rule too.
But the number of “rookie errors” committed by VikPlod and Vic DPP is starting to stack up.

Beertruk
September 20, 2024 1:08 pm

Meanwhile in other news, the Clammtard could be in a bit of trouble at the mill…

Daily Tele:

FEMINIST FACES LAW SUIT OVER RACE RANT

GIANNI FRANCIS
20 Sep 2024

Controversial feminist commentator Clementine Ford has been threatened with legal action after allegedly calling an aspiring politician a “racist, transphobic cooker” who needed to be “forcibly removed from society in a padded van and taken to a mental asylum”.

Ford, who is infamous for complaining the coronavirus was not “killing men fast enough”, is facing a potential defamation suit from glamorous accountant and aspiring local councillor Jane Agirtan.

Ms Agirtan launched the action after a series of comments shared on Ford’s social media in 2023 and 2024. A concerns notice sent to Ford’s lawyer Ellie Nolan included screenshots of posts allegedly made on Ford’s Facebook and Instagram pages.

The posts, which have since been removed, began in August 2023 after Ms Agirtan called out Minister for Indigenous Australians Linda Burney for allegedly owning a luxury handbag.

According to the concerns notice, Ford shared the Instagram story with the comment: “This is @JaneAgirtan, a racist, transphobic cooker, angling to be a politician”.

Ford, who was under fire earlier this year for allegedly doxing Jewish people, went on to taunt Ms Agirtan over a warning of potential legal action.

“I’d love for you to try to file a defamation suit,” Ford allegedly posted to social media, along with an interaction with another media outlet where she called Ms Agirtan “deeply unhinged” for trying to serve her with a legal letter.

cohenite
September 20, 2024 1:11 pm

Rococo Liberal
 September 20, 2024 12:28 pm

 Reply to  cohenite
I seldom read comments as stupid as this.
Well done.

You could have the good manners to reciprocate and give your opinion about Trump and/or little johnnie.

cohenite
September 20, 2024 1:14 pm

According to the Trump operatives who leaked his old forum posts, Robinson is a self-confessed “black Nazi” who thinks slavery should be reintroduced, keeps a collection of miniature SS soldier figurines, swings with his sister-n-law, and loves transgender porn.

Dickless looking in the mirror again.

Rosie
Rosie
September 20, 2024 1:16 pm

Must be true if the Guardian is running with the story.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/sep/19/mark-robinson-north-carolina

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
September 20, 2024 1:17 pm

Somebody earlier today posted the Senator Canavan article about the Misinformation Bill.
It is interesting to note that the article appears online at Courier Mail and Daily Telegraph. However the comments are different. Got one accepted at DT but a slightly modified one at CM did not get through.

Arky
September 20, 2024 1:20 pm

Polls are a tool to adjust voter turnout.
Economic models are a means to influence policy.
Climate models likewise.
Entertainment is a means to inject ideology into public discourse.
News and current affairs is advertising for political parties and corporations.
Education is indoctrination.

Rosie
Rosie
September 20, 2024 1:20 pm
Rosie
Rosie
September 20, 2024 1:22 pm

From April.
“Hezbollah chief Hassan Nasrallah has denied that his party was involved.

Speaking after Sleiman’s funeral, LF leader Samir Geagea called for the “failed, corrupt” authorities in Lebanon to be changed.”
https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20240412-thousands-of-lebanese-mourn-slain-christian-political-official

Rosie
Rosie
September 20, 2024 1:27 pm

Of course the ones squealing about the grim beepers are probably also gnashing their teeth that Israel thwarted this attack.

https://x.com/amjadt25/status/1836876737285624270?t=rx9TaY8CyI5NmGBVPPWV_A&s=19

Rosie
Rosie
September 20, 2024 1:30 pm

This has been doing the rounds on Twitter, specifically that J K Rowling was responsible for Egyptian security guards forcing this girl to strip.

https://x.com/HazelAppleyard_/status/1836710639533690887?t=IvqRV-I8HKQREBqZQp6Ddg&s=19

Arky
September 20, 2024 1:54 pm

Little johnnie established alarmism and renewables in this shit hole. 

He grandstanded over boat people, turning it into an election strategy, while allowing the big Australia influx of visa shoppers to become the economic model for our real estate, universities, unions and Labour Party,
Ultimately, history will see his governments as a collection of smug gits who put in place all the prerequisites for the extinction of their own party.

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Tom
Tom
September 20, 2024 2:25 pm

Ultimately, history will see his governments as a collection of smug gits who put in place all the prerequisites for the extinction of their own party.

John Howard’s legacy was why the Stupid Frigging Liberals were such a pushover to be ejected from power by various leftard rabbles in 2022:

*One of Howard’s favourite politicians, Malcolm Turnbull, and his designated successor, Scott Morrison, destroyed the LNP primary vote.

*Morrison was a sitting duck for the ALP Mean Girls to use Britanny Higgins as their useful idiot in their successful but bogus campaign against the LNP’s “women problem”.

*Turnbull was the major motivating force behind the creation of the Teals in formerly safe LNP seats.

*As Turnbull’s heir, Morrison refused to abandon Turnbull’s loony climate targets, which are now well on the way to destroying the Australian economy — helped along by Morrison’s mad debt-fuelled spending during Kung Flu.

Thanks to John Howard, the observation that the LNP “believes in nothing” is now a simple statement of fact.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
September 20, 2024 2:27 pm

Good work from Crowder with this confrontation. Varma is a weird looking sleaze.

—–

Steven Crowder:

Steven Crowder is back on the streets to confront Dr. Jay Varma, the architect of New York City COVID mandates and shutdowns, who was having drug-fueled sex parties while you couldn’t attend your grandmother’s funeral.

CROWDER CONFRONTS: Covid Sex Party Czar Dr. Jay Varma | Louder With Crowder

Rabz
September 20, 2024 2:28 pm

glamorous accountant

err, WTF? 😕

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
September 20, 2024 2:32 pm

The psyop angle only has the least effect until you accept you are dealing with inbred psychopaths incapable in the main of stringing more than a sentence of death to Jews, river to the Sea or death to the great Satan.

Rabz
September 20, 2024 2:35 pm

the observation that the LNP “believes in nothing” is now a simple statement of fact

As appalling, dangerous and staggeringly incompetent as labore invariably are, the gliberals now no longer even warrant being referred to as “the lesser of two evils”.

See my “diminishing returns” theory of Australian governments.

Rosie
Rosie
September 20, 2024 2:36 pm

I’d have thought damage to operational comms was the biggest deal, not pysch opps, even hezbos seem to making jokes about it.
Vid doing the rounds, one older guy threw a device on someone’s lap, had him racing outside to belly laughs all round.

Cassie of Sydney
September 20, 2024 2:39 pm

If Mark Scott had any decency he’d resign today.

What’s ensued under his tenure as VC of Sydney University is a disgrace.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 20, 2024 2:40 pm

Thanks to John Howard, the observation that the LNP “believes in nothing” is now a simple statement of fact.

Howard is a lot like Ramirez (I’m thinking of yesterday’s toon not todays). Both are mooning for the old genteel way of doing politics, which has been their whole life. They cannot get past that romantic vision. Unfortunately the Left has completely chucked all that out the window and run up the red flag.

It’s a time for choosing a side. There no longer is a political centre to sit comfortably and complacently in.

Rosie
Rosie
September 20, 2024 2:40 pm

Syria is baddies versus baddies?
Not a single innocent civilian?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 20, 2024 2:47 pm

If Mark Scott had any decency he’d resign today.

Ah but Cassie, after a whole year doing nothing the AHRC has positively leapt into action!

AHRC backs new campus inquiry (Paywallian)

AHRC open to campus anti-Semitism judicial inquiry ahead of university leaders fronting Senate

If only Hamas has misgendered someone they might have been quicker.

Rosie
Rosie
September 20, 2024 2:54 pm
Indolent
Indolent
September 20, 2024 3:01 pm
132andBush
132andBush
September 20, 2024 3:05 pm

Good work from Crowder with this confrontation. Varma is a weird looking sleaze.

I saw that earlier today.
It’s safe to say the personality and methods of that bloke were replicated around the world, especially in this country and especially in Victoria.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
September 20, 2024 3:07 pm

I see the weasel Mark Scott finally apologised to Jewish students who had the misfortune to be enrolled in Sydney Uni.
What took him so long ?

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
September 20, 2024 3:10 pm

He grandstanded over boat people, turning it into an election strategy, while allowing the big Australia influx of visa shoppers to become the economic model for our real estate, universities, unions and Labour Party,

Ive made this point to lefties before, and the shannott believe it.
Howard was able to massively ramp up migration on the back of “being in control”.
He could have cut the ABCs throat and 90% of the “climate crisis” would have evaporated overnight.

I cant remember who it was called their ABCcess “our enemies, talking to our friends”.

The inability of our governments to withdraw from idiotic international treaties is another sore point.
90% of the bullcrap in Abbo affairs can be sheeted back to signing up to this crap.
https://www.un.org/development/desa/indigenouspeoples/wp-content/uploads/sites/19/2018/11/UNDRIP_E_web.pdf

Every wishlist item is one being ticked off by the human rites commish (suspended during covid)
https://humanrights.gov.au/our-work/un-declaration-rights-indigenous-peoples

Megan
Megan
September 20, 2024 3:13 pm

A few weekends ago, 7th Sept or 31 Aug, there was a review of a pop science book on serendipity in astronomy- can anyone give me the title, or anyone picked it up with a recommendation?

Is it Accidental Astronomy by Chris Lintott?

I asked my local library to buy it but I’m not sure where I got the title from originally. The Oz is a definite possibility.

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Indolent
Indolent
September 20, 2024 3:19 pm
Indolent
Indolent
September 20, 2024 3:27 pm

We’ve known this for decades. The first I heard of it was under Tony Blair in the U.K. He was practically boasting about it.

How Government Nudge Units Secretly Influence Us: Laura Dodsworth

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