Open Thread – Weekend 1 Feb 2025


Stones in the forest. Valaam, Ivan Shishkin, 1858-60

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Old Lefty
Old Lefty
February 2, 2025 8:00 pm

This is not a Babylon Bee satire, it is a GayBC/Australian Bolshevik Collective ‘news’ report:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-02-02/midsumma-pride-march-jacinta-allan-donald-trump-maga/104886974

They are beyond satire.

Meanwhile, I assume, the immunity from prosecution for the Socialist Left/Sex Party/Green/ABC/Fairfax church arson campaign in Yarragrad continues unabated. The question is whether it also extends to synagogues: they and their schools were, let’s not forget, also the targets of the selective and politically partisan proceedings of the Gillard-McClellan sham royal commission. Mosques and Islamic schools, like schools staffed by the Stalininst comrades from the state teachers’ unions, were, of course, off limits.

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
February 2, 2025 8:12 pm

Sancho Panzer
 February 2, 2025 7:59 pm

calli

 February 2, 2025 6:51 pm

Just catching up on the news.

Ha, ha, ha. Here is the Gnus. We have all been eaten by the lions.

Late again I see.

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
February 2, 2025 8:17 pm
Reply to  Johnny Rotten

Only I am right And here now.

Pogria
Pogria
February 2, 2025 8:46 pm
Reply to  Johnny Rotten

yawn.

Roger
Roger
February 2, 2025 8:24 pm

Here’s an idea:

Remove tax exemption status from charities and churches.

Howard’s privatisation of the welfare system was still-born and did little more than make charities service delivery arms for the state.

Churches jumped at the opportunity because it seemed to place them at the centre of society again after decades of declining influence, but over time it has hollowed out their ethos as they’ve become bureaucratised and constrained by the government policies attached to the funding.

That leaves us with a situation where (as with primary & secondary education) if the state withdrew its funding and/or tax concessions from religious organisations the whole sector would collapse almost overnight.

I suppose you could call it creative disruption but no government that values its chances of re-election will risk it.

PeterM
PeterM
February 2, 2025 10:27 pm
Reply to  Roger

Are churches taxed differently from other not-for-profits like scouts, surf clubs etc?

cohenite
February 2, 2025 8:25 pm

Moran’s latest summary of global boiling idiocy and Trump’s actions against this idiocy:

Climate News – February 2025

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
February 2, 2025 8:27 pm

Here is an idea, NO Income Tax

Only a Sales Tax of maybe 15%

Let the Economy rip

Miltonf
Miltonf
February 2, 2025 8:30 pm

Howard’s privatisation of the welfare system was still-born and did little more than make charities service delivery arms for the state.

Also that ridiculous jobs network in place of the CES- isn’t that how Mrs Rudd made all her money?

Roger
Roger
February 2, 2025 8:34 pm
Reply to  Miltonf

Indeed.

And she ain’t the only one.

Ditto day care centres & NDIS providers today.

The churches, of course, weren’t allowed to turn a profit, which was very convenient for the government as they were effectively getting a dividend on their funding.

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Eyrie
Eyrie
February 2, 2025 8:36 pm
Reply to  Miltonf

Reaping the pelf hand over fist.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
February 2, 2025 8:51 pm
Reply to  Miltonf

Know a few blokes who went thru Centrelink’s outsourced job providers during downturns.

Full of graduate HR types on power trips and lacking any real world competence.

All said the same thing, once they had found jobs they ignored the pleas to update their circumstances.

Apparently for real workers falling on hard times a very demeaning process.

Miltonf
Miltonf
February 2, 2025 9:03 pm
Reply to  Rockdoctor

Filling out the dole diary.

Salvatore - Iron Publican
February 2, 2025 9:26 pm
Reply to  Miltonf

Mrs. Rudd’s path to riches began circa 10 years before John Howard became PM.

Circa 10 years before John Howard became PM, the Labor Premier of Qld’s chief-of-staff, Kevin Rudd, may have been instrumental in her landing the ticket-clip of $250 per head for every hire by the Qld govt.

John H.
John H.
February 2, 2025 9:43 pm
Reply to  Miltonf

It was the age of privatization. Howard was doing what his political base wanted.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
February 2, 2025 8:45 pm

Just looked at Juan Browne’s Blancolirio YouTube on the Meccico medivac prang in Philadelphia.
Things which seem fairly certain:-
– the engines were “turning and burning” all the way;
– temperature was 49 degrees F and no chance of ice accretion on the wings which might cause a stall;
– in fact no sign of any aerodynamic stall from the NTSB telemetry data (airspeed was high throughout);
– aircraft appears to be flying (albeit uncontrolled) all the way to the end.
Browne thinks there are two likely culprits:-
1. some sort of flight control issue with the spoilers or yaw damper; or
2. spatial disorientation. It was not uncommon during WW2 for inexperienced pilots to spear in a mile off the end of the runway at night. Long story but it is the eyes and ears playing tricks. This aircraft is a particularly slippery piece of kit and it looks like they lost it in cloud, and came out of the soup heavily nose down at 400′.
Number 1 was my initial guess, but I have now moved my chips to number 2.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
February 2, 2025 8:58 pm
Reply to  Sancho Panzer

Don’t Lears come with altimeters or was that an optional extra.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
February 2, 2025 9:09 pm
Reply to  GreyRanga

Well, initially it was winding up nicely (I think at one stage they had a climb rate of 3000 fpm).
That is the problem with spatial disorientation. Even when they went over the top and the vertical speed indicator (which can have tiny lags btw) was showing loss of altitude, there arses and ears are telling them they are climbing. By the time they come out of the cloud at 400′ and the ambiguity is resolved for them – in the form of a windscreen full of rooftops – it’s too late.

Pogria
Pogria
February 2, 2025 8:51 pm

In case anyone is interested, Sirens is on the box tonight.
You can see Tara Fitzgerald, Elle Macpherson, Portia Di Rossi and Kate Fischer wearing mirkins. 😀

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
February 2, 2025 9:03 pm
Reply to  Pogria

Mirkins – haha. Haven’t heard of ’em for decades.

H B Bear
H B Bear
February 2, 2025 9:08 pm
Reply to  Pogria

Car crash movie and tits. Plus MAFS. Our cup runneth over.

Pogria
Pogria
February 2, 2025 9:12 pm
Reply to  H B Bear

Also, Lethal Weapon 4!

Bruce in WA
February 3, 2025 12:03 am
Reply to  Pogria

Isn’t it merkin?

H B Bear
H B Bear
February 2, 2025 9:13 pm

Teh Paywallian Media Diary reporting Channel Stokes election night coverage to feature Peanut Head and Plibbers. Will they be able to contain their glee? Should make for good TV and plenty of LOLs.

Pogria
Pogria
February 2, 2025 9:21 pm
Reply to  H B Bear

I absolutey LOATHE Blabbersack.
More so because I am Slovenian bred, born in Oz.
I always believe she lets the side down.
On the other hand, growing up, I was exposed to an awful lot of crazy, insane Slovenians. gulp… 😀

Miltonf
Miltonf
February 2, 2025 9:25 pm
Reply to  Pogria

You’re not alone. Labor family- brother now a magistrate.

Zafiro
Zafiro
February 2, 2025 9:45 pm
Reply to  Pogria

All Yugo tribes are mad.

Pogria
Pogria
February 2, 2025 9:47 pm
Reply to  Zafiro

No argument from me. 😀

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
February 2, 2025 9:13 pm

H B Bear

 February 2, 2025 9:08 pm

 Reply to  Pogria

Car crash movie and tits. Plus MAFS. Our cup runneth over.

Can you tape MAFS for me?
I’ll be watching the tits and fender-bender one.

Pogria
Pogria
February 2, 2025 9:22 pm
Reply to  Sancho Panzer

Which is the Car Crash movie?

H B Bear
H B Bear
February 3, 2025 12:16 am
Reply to  Pogria

Sirens. You can’t look away.

Rosie
Rosie
February 2, 2025 9:35 pm

Perhaps some insight into why Trump is going after Canada.
https://x.com/StephenPunwasi/status/1884813232201674799?t=qMj_TBHVIbkfoYh6mHaaYQ&s=19

MatrixTransform
February 2, 2025 9:37 pm

oh btw … there is no Fernando St

anywhere in Melbourne

… or Fernando Rd

… or court

…or avenue

…just sayin’

MatrixTransform
February 2, 2025 9:46 pm

and it’s your move JC

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
February 2, 2025 10:06 pm
Reply to  Indolent

If only there were an election sometime in the next four and a half years

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
February 2, 2025 9:56 pm

I think the control of drug distribution from Canadia and Meccico is a factor, but I don’t think it is the main game.
Of course, we shouldn’t forget that JD Vance’s mother had a long history of addiction, so it will get some attention.
But I think the main game is (as others here have said) the abuse of NAFTA by allowing Chinah to set up in Canadia and Meccico which breaches the spirit – and probably the letter – of the NAFTA treaty.
And the payday has arrived.

John H.
John H.
February 2, 2025 10:02 pm
Reply to  Sancho Panzer

There are so many opioid types that can easily be manufactured controlling external supply won’t change much. The opioid issue began in the USA supply chain. The USA has spent nearly a century trying to control external drug supply chains. It has consistently failed to address the demand. That is true of illegal and legal drugs. I don’t understand why the USA is by far the biggest user of psychoactive drugs. It is the elephant in the room the USA refuses to address.

Arky
February 2, 2025 10:46 pm
Reply to  Sancho Panzer

Correct.
The drugs and trade imbalances are symptoms of a broader game played out across the globe on multiple levels.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
February 2, 2025 9:57 pm

How embarrassing.
Pasty and doughy “first nationses” poseurs take a load of sand… and Ikea shelving… to Vienna as the “face” of Australian architecture.

Zafiro
Zafiro
February 2, 2025 10:23 pm
Reply to  Wally Dalí

links to other stuff. Try again.

JC
JC
February 2, 2025 10:15 pm

John

I don’t understand why the USA is by far the biggest user of psychoactive drugs. It is the elephant in the room the USA refuses to address.


John, the reasons why the US has a huge drug culture is complex. But rest assured, if the American government goes after the cartels in a big way others will rise up. Demand will find its own supply chain. As you suggested, they’ve been going after illicit drugs for over a century and it’s come to nought.

Arky
February 2, 2025 11:02 pm
Reply to  JC

Drugs are being used as a weapon of war.
It goes much deeper than any libertarian notion of bodily autonomy.
China feels that payback for the opium wars is due.
On an individual basis, it matters not if, how or with what substance a person chooses to imbibe, no one cares about that.
But if you are running a company, an army, or a country, at scale it matters.
It matters to the quality of your workforce, it matters because of the health costs imposed and it matters on a spiritual level if vast swathes of your people aren’t able to form families or look after their children.
This is why army drug tests soldiers and why drunks, bums and druggoes aren’t generally welcome.
It operates on multiple levels.
legalisation isn’t a cure. Look at Russia. Vodka is legal, cheap and plentiful, and they are all useless drunken bums who can’t even take Ukraine despite a huge numerical advantage.
Much of the problems will go away with reindustrialisation, the return of meaningful, well paying work for the common man.
Trump is on the right track, but there are numerous obstacles in his way.

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Steve trickler
Steve trickler
February 2, 2025 10:16 pm
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
February 2, 2025 10:22 pm

Brian Burke says federal Labor ‘rudderless and shambolic’Paige Taylor
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Disgraced former Western Australian premier Brian Burke has sought to intervene in the federal election campaign, lashing his former Labor Party as rudderless and shambolic at the federal level.
Mr Burke on Sunday said of the Albanese government: “There have been so many mistakes that it’s hard to rank them.”
The twice-jailed former premier’s reappearance is likely to be uncomfortable for WA Premier Roger Cook and Anthony Albanese, who know Mr Burke has the potential to be political poison for both sides of politics and ministers at state and federal level.
MPs in Perth and Canberra were banned from dealing with Mr Burke after WA’s Corruption and Crime Commission laid bare his extraordinary reach as a lobbyist two decades ago. He was not convicted of any charges resulting from those hearings, and he is known to continue to talk to key figures in politics and business.
“Many worry about the rudderless, shambolic and thoroughly confusing government response to the problems in the Middle East. Who among us would ever have believed the multicultural community we boast about would be riven by this imported bitterness,” Mr Burke said.
“Perhaps firebombing St Mary’s or St George’s cathedrals would have more vividly brought home the problem for all of us in the arson attack on the synagogue in Melbourne.
“Graffitied slogans attacking Catholics and Anglicans instead of Jews would round things off nicely to underline the one thing that’s crystal clear – the terrible damage to our community of the lack of consistent, cogent and decisive leadership. And that includes the proper policing of racist and religious attacks.”
Mr Burke was a television news reporter for Channel 9 in Perth before he became premier during the WA Inc era in the 1980s. His government got close to high-flyers such as Alan Bond, raising concerns about corruption. A royal commission followed and in 1994 Mr Burke was jailed for two years over a travel rort. In 1997 he was jailed again for stealing $122,585 in campaign donations; however, the convictions were quashed on appeal.
Mr Burke rebuilt a career as a highly effective lobbyist in the early 2000s but the Corruption and Crime Commission hearings into his business cruelled the Gallop government.

Rosie
Rosie
February 2, 2025 10:26 pm

I get the impression from the thread that the US are sick of Canada profiting from the drug trade into the US and want Canada to do something about the money laundering etc which isn’t just drugs but other activities.
Sure you can’t stop drugs but you don’t have to make it easy, and tax free.
Let’s see how it shakes out.

John H.
John H.
February 2, 2025 10:55 pm
Reply to  Rosie

Tarrifs will have no impact on criminal gangs. In the USA bikie gangs and criminal organizations far exceed the Canadian influx. We have the same problem in Australia. Bikie gangs used to be relatively harmless but with metha, crack cocaine, and synthetic opioids, everything changed. The Qld govt did something surprising: an intelligent strategy to deal with the bikie gangs was to declare most illegal(there are “good” bikie gangs, sort of). Every nation should follow that example.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
February 2, 2025 10:33 pm
Arky
February 2, 2025 11:42 pm

We watch a lot of dashcam videos at home.
My daughter, being a ghoul, likes them.
Much of the complete idiocy you see can only be explained by drugs.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
February 2, 2025 11:58 pm
Reply to  Arky

Statins?

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
February 3, 2025 12:03 am
Reply to  Sancho Panzer

Psst. Wanna buy some.

JC
JC
February 2, 2025 11:59 pm

I’m not really sure that the US does that badly out of the economic relationship with Canada.

It will hurt Canada more. Canadian exports to the US amount to around $450 billion, which is much more significant to Canada in terms of GDP. $450 billion/ $2.1 trillion = approximately 20% of GDP. That’s a lot.
In comparison, US exports to Canada are around $300 billion. $300 billion/ $25 trillion = 1.2%.
That’s not significant, and any impact on US inflation would be marginal—likely in the range of two decimal points—as a consequence of Canada raising its own tariffs.
You also can’t discount the oil impact. The US is not going to pay a 25% premium for Canadian oil. Canada will likely have to absorb that loss. In this scenario, Canada is potentially fcked.
We need to be careful, too. I’m just thinking out loud, but what if US-China relations heat up, and the administration tells us to stop selling coal and ore to China? What happens then?

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GreyRanga
GreyRanga
February 3, 2025 12:19 am
Reply to  JC

Same as what happened recently JC. China put the brakes on buying iron ore and wine and lobster. Only to pay more on the open market for the iron ore.

JC
JC
February 3, 2025 12:13 am

Then there’s Mexico. Bilateral trade is around $800 billion
Meixcan exports are around $430 billion. 430 billion/ 1.8 trillion = 24% of GDP. They’re rooted.
US Exports are around $370 billion. 370 billion/ 25 trillion = 1.5% of GDP.

Then, if the US is really, really pissed with Mexico there are $63 billion in remittances.

The problem for Mexico is that the Cartels run the country and the government cannot give an undertaking they will or can eradicate them. Moreover the US wouldn’t believe them even if the Mex government said they would.
Both Canada and Mexico are being jammed with a red hot poker.

H B Bear
H B Bear
February 3, 2025 12:22 am
Reply to  JC

As Sancho notes,you expect transshipment to be a big issue. Much like the Chinese stuff we get through NZ “value adding”.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
February 3, 2025 12:23 am

Ingham just ticked over 201mm since 9 this morning.

Hoo boy.

JC
JC
February 3, 2025 12:25 am

I really don’t understand Canada and Mexico. The US, just on their export side alone ( not counting the impact of US imports) accounts for 20% and 25% of GDP. Higher if you count the impact of imports on domestic activity. Why the hell would you piss off the US over the long term when you should be groveling and every week asking what you could do better.

Mexico deserves the biggest fcking caning of all. The fcking cretins’ economy is impacted by possibly even 30% of their GDP. They let 7 million illegal trample through the shithole in order to break through the then non-existent US border. The cartels supply fent which kills 50-100k Americans. Are they brain dead? They thought no one would turn up and object to this bullshit?

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JC
JC
February 3, 2025 12:41 am

Bear

This is an administration that means what it says. America first.

These fcks really don’t give a shit about Australia unless it impacts their interest. Then seriously, we had that fcking moron Rudd dissing Trump in the worst possible way. And we’re keeping him there? This is crazy stuff poking these guys inside the fence.
We’re not in Kansas anymore.

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  1. Bear This is an administration that means what it says. America first. These fcks really don’t give a shit about…

  2. I really don’t understand Canada and Mexico. The US, just on their export side alone ( not counting the impact…

  3. As Sancho notes,you expect transshipment to be a big issue. Much like the Chinese stuff we get through NZ “value…

  4. Same as what happened recently JC. China put the brakes on buying iron ore and wine and lobster. Only to…

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