Open Thread – Thurs 10 April 2025


Apples and Pears in a Round Basket, Camille Pissarro, 1872

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Jock
Jock
April 11, 2025 11:03 am
Reply to  dover0beach

the communists are sticking together.

Boambee John
Boambee John
April 12, 2025 9:26 am
Reply to  dover0beach

LOL.

alwaysright
alwaysright
April 11, 2025 10:28 am

Branco!

Crossie
Crossie
April 11, 2025 10:43 am
Reply to  dover0beach

Where are they going to get all that extra electricity? I thought they didn’t have enough to heat their old age pensioners this winter. I suppose they can always buy more gas from Putin.

Last edited 1 day ago by Crossie
Roger
Roger
April 11, 2025 12:02 pm
Reply to  dover0beach

In terms of nobbling their economy, the Euro elite’s energy policy is on a par with ours for sheer perversity.

With the added layer of exposing their countries to a Russian security threat.

bons
bons
April 11, 2025 10:47 am
Reply to  dover0beach

Clowns. China will rape them and Trump will laugh.

Crossie
Crossie
April 11, 2025 11:25 am
Reply to  dover0beach

They have been taking advantage of the US via NATO for decades.

Roger
Roger
April 11, 2025 11:52 am
Reply to  Crossie

I was going to say…

JC
JC
April 11, 2025 11:41 am
Reply to  dover0beach

Dover

Have you factored in the logistical and other associated costs related to transporting gas in your rape accusation.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
April 11, 2025 11:24 am
Reply to  dover0beach

Incredible. The EU only just slapped on those tariffs recently in October 2024. And for what reason hmmmm?

The European Commission, the EUโ€™s executive arm, conducted an eight-month investigation and concluded that companies making electric cars in China benefit from massive government help that enables them to undercut rivals in the EU on price, take a large market share and threaten European jobs.

None of those reasons disappeared overnight just because the USA raised tariffs on China!
Did ThE cLiMaTe cRiSiS suddenly get urgent overnight?
Really struggling to imagine an explanation for this move other than TDS.
Anybody got any ideas there?

Vicki
Vicki
April 11, 2025 10:36 am

Richard Marles has rejected Chinese ambassador Xiao Qianโ€™s invitation to โ€œjoin handsโ€ with Beijing to resist Donald Trumpโ€™s tariffs, saying Australia will pursue its own interests by diversifying its trade and reducing its reliance on China.

Maybe they are at last listening to strategists who have been constantly warning about the implications of Chinese expansion in the Indo Pacific.

Roger
Roger
April 11, 2025 12:12 pm
Reply to  Vicki

One would hope they are taking a philosophically holistic approach and considering the defence implications along with trade given that our chief defence partner is ostensibly in a cold war with our hitherto chief trading partner (for want of a better term!). Something had to give.

Indolent
Indolent
April 11, 2025 10:40 am

The site’s been down all morning, at least for me.

I’ve got a few things to post which I’ll do later but this is a must-see. In half an hour you’ll get the whole picture of what is really going on with Ukraine and, as he calls them, the European snakes.

Alex Krainer: ZELENSKY SELLS Ukraine To BRITAIN! TRUMP REVEALS The BETRAYAL NATO FACES COLLAPSE

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
April 11, 2025 11:11 am
Reply to  Indolent

ZELENSKY SELLS Ukraine To BRITAIN!

So I can look forward to seeing hot Ukrainian chicks compete in the 2026 Commonwealth games?
Don’t dash my hopes, Indolent.

Crossie
Crossie
April 11, 2025 11:29 am
Reply to  dover0beach

So the Euros are going to stiff the rest of Asian manufacturers? That’s the way to win friends and influence people.

Pete of Perth
Pete of Perth
April 11, 2025 11:09 am

Zerohedge debates. Tariffs. Peter Schiff v Steven Morrison. (Libertarian v MAGA). Link

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
April 11, 2025 11:22 am

Dover: Thereโ€™s something odd happening with the blog. Entering via a search engine gives a strange Dreamhost message.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
April 11, 2025 12:11 pm
Reply to  dover0beach

Goggle gives me the Dreamhost page – on 2 devices through seperate internet connections.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
April 11, 2025 1:05 pm
Reply to  dover0beach

I was getting it all morning until just now. I suspect it might be cache dependent, since when I cleared it a short time ago the New Cat came up.

local oaf
April 11, 2025 12:51 pm
Reply to  Dr Faustus

Been getting that message all morning from my browser shortcut.

Only just found the site now with DDG.

Pogria
Pogria
April 11, 2025 3:47 pm
Reply to  Dr Faustus

Kept happening to me all day. I was able to access on my phone, but not the computer.
I went to an old, saved page, then was able to access today’s page.
Dover, are you teasing us? ๐Ÿ˜€

m0nty
April 11, 2025 11:31 am

I doubt calling the Europeans snakes and communists will endear your cause to them.

Turns out despite the expense, there was a benefit to being the worldโ€™s policeman: the world treated you with respect and gave you free donuts. No longer.

Trump has not done a single thing that Putin did not want.

JC
JC
April 11, 2025 12:02 pm
Reply to  m0nty

How about the oil price making its way through $60, Fatboy.

Wussia, being a huge importer from China would improve Russiaโ€™s trade balance, right?

cohenite
April 11, 2025 12:15 pm
Reply to  JC

Lol.

m0nty
April 11, 2025 12:38 pm
Reply to  JC

A small price to pay for all the other things Trump has done for Putin. Specifically, dropping sanctions and attempting to isolate Zelenskyy.

Cassie of Sydney
April 11, 2025 9:02 pm
Reply to  JC

Piss off,Nazi

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
April 11, 2025 12:17 pm
Reply to  m0nty

No more free doughnuts for you then?

Boambee John
Boambee John
April 12, 2025 9:30 am
Reply to  m0nty

But calling women Nazis will endear your leftard cause to them?

John Brumble
John Brumble
April 11, 2025 12:57 pm
Reply to  dover0beach

Gosh. Could that have anything to do with EU making it harder for Japanese carmakers to compete with China?

No. No. Not possible. Must he that evil USAโ€™s fault. Probably their long noses, amiright?

Crossie
Crossie
April 11, 2025 11:48 am
Reply to  dover0beach

Xi is determined to create a bipolar world.

JC
JC
April 11, 2025 12:11 pm
Reply to  dover0beach

How about an alternative view. Donโ€™t cheat, donโ€™t steal other peopleโ€™s intellectual property, donโ€™t subsidise exporters to steal market share, donโ€™t threaten fully functioning neighbours with invasion, donโ€™t try and take over an international waterway, stop selling fentanyl to kill people and fck right off.

Lastly, who is your favourite totalitarian for the month?

Arky
April 11, 2025 12:29 pm
Reply to  JC

Lastly, who is your favourite totalitarian for the month?

(Checks calendar).
Stalin.

Arky
April 11, 2025 12:33 pm
Reply to  Arky

Stalin did wonderful work restoring the historical Russian empire of Catherine the Great and in outfoxing that reprehensible imperialist warmonger Churchill.

Chris
Chris
April 11, 2025 2:50 pm
Reply to  Arky

Stalin is a wonderfully dead commie.

Pogria
Pogria
April 11, 2025 3:48 pm
Reply to  JC

This.

Perfidious Albino
Perfidious Albino
April 11, 2025 8:53 pm
Reply to  dover0beach

I wonโ€™t be surprised if Xi is taken out by his own people. Trump just needs to avoid the same fate in the meantime.

JC
JC
April 11, 2025 12:22 pm

And of course China can take the high ground over tariffs especially with what they did to Australia when our government simply asked to examine how, where and why the epidemic began.

According Dover, the CCP are the good guys, the free trade guys.

My dictator for the month was Churchill.

cohenite
April 11, 2025 12:27 pm
Reply to  JC

My dictator for the month was Churchill.

You’re just jealous he looks better smoking a cheroot than you.

JC
JC
April 11, 2025 12:57 pm
Reply to  cohenite

Cigar smoking is a disgusting habit. ๐Ÿ™‚

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
April 11, 2025 4:32 pm
Reply to  JC

Nonsense. It’s vegetarian. Vegan, even.

cohenite
April 11, 2025 12:25 pm

They’re gonna sue Trump for everything:

Judge Greenlights Defamation Suit Against Trump for Central Park Five Comments.

Every editorial in the nation made similar comments.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
April 11, 2025 12:28 pm

Activist involved in Abbott, Gillard scuffle to protest Price

A Noongar activist named as an instigator of the 2012 Australia Day rush on The Lobby restaurant in Canberra will join a protest against Jacinta Nampijinpa Priceโ€™s visit to the West Australian city of Bunbury today.
Marianne Mackay is among Aboriginal critics of the Coalitionโ€™s spokesperson on Indigenous affairs who intend to protest her presence in Bunbury.
Ms Mackay claims Senator Price failed to follow cultural protocols for her Bunbury visit and should have sought permission from local elders.
Ms Mackay was 33 years old in 2012 when she was named by tent embassy founder Michael Anderson as one of two Aboriginal women who started the Australia Day incident outside The Lobby restaurant.
Protesters swarmed the restaurant, apparently angry that Tony Abbott had said it was time for the tent embassy to come down. At the time, Julia Gillard and Tony Abbott were inside attending an awards ceremony for emergency service workers.
Police took the decision to move Ms Gillard and Mr Abbott out of the restaurant.
Ms Gillard was hurriedly escorted by her federal police Close Personal Protection team. At one point she appeared to be dragged and lost a shoe.
Ms Mackay is now a grandmother and a law graduate. Her work in Indigenous affairs includes womenโ€™s rights and deaths in custody.
โ€œWe know that over the years Jacinta Price has run down black fellas right across the country,โ€ Ms Mackay said on Facebook live on Friday.
Senator Price has slammed claims she needs permission to campaign anywhere in Australia. This week she said the calls by her Aboriginal critics for a veto over where she goes were motivated by malice. The claim she needed permission from local Indigenous people to visit Bunbury were about politics not culture, Senator Price said.

cohenite
April 11, 2025 1:04 pm
Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
April 11, 2025 1:22 pm
Reply to  cohenite

All three Candidates need a good shave (she is one of them) and the other two are men.

H B Bear
H B Bear
April 11, 2025 6:44 pm

The tale of Gingerella.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
April 11, 2025 12:32 pm

https://x.com/shellenberger/status/1910027744496550207#m

Michael Shellenberger @shellenberger Apr 9

This is one of the best NPOV explanations I’ve seen of the Trump tariffs and how they fit into his strategy to create a new global security and economic order, whether you agree with it or not. @JoeriSchasfoort

Video 24 mins. The first 13 mins are mainly a review of the global trading system up until 2016.
It’s the first I’ve heard of any strategic plan behind the tariff chaos.
Basically, Trump’s main economic advisor thinks its possible to reindustrialise the USA without losing the reserve currency status of USD.

  1. Tariff Chaos. This is temporary and is purely to create negotiation leverage.
  2. Reciprocal Tariffs. This is not explained well in the video and seems to be about leveling the playing field economically.
  3. A Mar-a-lago accord. Like Bretton Woods it would impose political, military, and economic conditions on favoured countries in exchange for lower tariffs, military protection, and access to USA market and financial system. This would include a requirement for countries to fix their exchange rate with the USD.

But there is a fly in the ointment. Watch until the end to find out what it is.

m0nty
April 11, 2025 12:44 pm

In the sage words of Mike Tyson, everyone has a plan until they get punched in the mouth.

If your plan depends on every other country just letting America impose arbitrary tariffs without reciprocation, with no contingency plan for when that doesnโ€™t work except backing down with a cowardly โ€œpauseโ€ to show the world how unserious you are, itโ€™s not much of a plan.

cohenite
April 11, 2025 1:42 pm
Reply to  m0nty

That’s not Trump’s plan dickless.

cohenite
April 11, 2025 12:56 pm

Why don’t you tell us.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
April 11, 2025 2:33 pm
Reply to  cohenite

You can’t do that. I clickbaited you fair and square!

OK. Fine.
The author speculates that the USA has lost too much goodwill in the last 3 months to be sure that other countries will trust the USA to the same level they did when joining Bretton Woods, so there’s a risk other countries won’t join Mar-a-Lago-topia.

Arky
April 11, 2025 12:38 pm
Reply to  dover0beach

Itโ€™s an EV plant.
Good riddance.

Eyrie
Eyrie
April 11, 2025 12:35 pm

Look at this horseshit:

https://www.australianflying.com.au/latest/stralis-to-offer-hydrogen-electric-retrofit-for-bonanzas

Just put in a grant application mentioning “Climate” or “Hydrogen” and the stupid Australian Government will fund anything.
A quick calculation, the grant has to be at least $10 million, maybe way more.
I’m livid at the waste of taxpayer money.

mem
mem
April 11, 2025 1:24 pm
Reply to  Eyrie

I wonder if they put Twiggy in as a reference. Hydrogen too expensive, too difficult to transport as it has to be frozen, then too heavy and too dangerous, to name just a few of the reasons it is not broadly used.

Eyrie
Eyrie
April 11, 2025 12:38 pm

Oh yeah, note iron bird test aircraft is called “Clyde” and the flight article will be called “Bonnie”.
Remind me again what Bonnie and Clyde did? Rob banks wasn’t it? The Australian Government is easier and less dangerous to rob.

areff
areff
April 11, 2025 12:41 pm
Reply to  Eyrie

They never robbed a single bank. They specialised in gas stations and country stores. Their biggest haul, from memory, was a paltrycouple of hundred bucks.

Eyrie
Eyrie
April 11, 2025 12:50 pm
Reply to  areff

OK but still robbery.

hzhousewife
hzhousewife
April 11, 2025 12:53 pm
Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
April 11, 2025 1:28 pm
Reply to  hzhousewife

Safe and effective. Twice.

Top Ender
Top Ender
April 11, 2025 12:57 pm

Howard, a “non-binary activist” with distinctive purple hair and facial piercings, launched their campaign on Monday but quickly drew a wave of public commentary โ€” much of it unflattering โ€” on social media platforms.

Here’s Howard:

Screenshot-2025-04-11-at-10.55.18
Frank
Frank
April 11, 2025 1:25 pm
Reply to  Top Ender

Monty has a twin then.

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
April 11, 2025 1:26 pm
Reply to  Top Ender

I bet he wouldn’t work on a Machine Shop lathe and not wear a hair net,

Lee
Lee
April 11, 2025 2:10 pm
Reply to  Top Ender

Weirdo.

Damon
Damon
April 11, 2025 9:34 pm
Reply to  Top Ender

Hope he never has to have a CAT scan.

Kneel
Kneel
April 11, 2025 12:59 pm

Apparently 26 in Sydney and 27 in Brisbane is โ€œswelteringโ€.

The long-term average max for Brisbane in April isโ€ฆ 27!

โ€œUnseasonably hotโ€!

Yes – AVERAGE. If it never went above the average, then there’d be no variation and you wouldn’t need an average.
For nearly half the time is is likely to be above average. Either that, or there is NORMALLY a few very hot days that pump the average up.
Either way, being above average is normal.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
April 11, 2025 1:52 pm
Reply to  Kneel

And the “average” runs from the 1st (theoretically warmer) to the 30th (theoretically cooler).
Today is the 11th.
Without running the numbers I would say 27 is bang on the money.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
April 11, 2025 1:00 pm

I see Samantha “just two chardies, officer” Maiden has banged out an article likening Orange Tariffs to Chopper Read extorting money from brothels.
The logical extension of her analogy is that, if Orange Hitler is a standover man, then Xi is a pimp.
As for the concept that “taxation is theft”?
Well, welcome to the Tea Party, Sam.
I am so old that I can remember the likes of Sam labelling low taxation movements like the Tea Party as “Far Right nut jobs”.

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Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
April 11, 2025 1:11 pm

My election campaign t-shirt …

Screenshot_20250411_130944_Samsung-Internet
Lysander
Lysander
April 11, 2025 1:11 pm
JC
JC
April 11, 2025 1:31 pm

Hereโ€™s where things could end up over the next three months or so. These are just my own thoughts, not โ€œsciffingโ€ or โ€œkabiasingโ€ the site.
At the end of the day, Europeโ€”especially Germany and other manufacturing countries like Italy and Franceโ€”despises China more than the US. The US and Europe are in one of their usual spats, which will likely be resolved eventually.

German manufacturers, along with others in middle Europe (the heart of European manufacturing), have been severely harmed by the CCP . They hate China with a passion. The CCP encouraged German machinery and machine tool makers, as well as other manufacturers, to export to China. China then copied their intellectual property (IP) and began exporting similar products at lower prices. Thereโ€™s no recourse in Chinese courts. Essentially, they steal IP, subsidized by the CCP, and then undercut global markets with cheaper goods.
How could China be significantly impacted? If Europe agrees to a 50% tariff on Chinese imports and reaches a settlement with the US. If we see that sell the Aussie dollar as it’s heading to 45 cents.

Last edited 1 day ago by JC
Lysander
Lysander
April 11, 2025 1:38 pm
Reply to  JC

It took two terms (and more) but Reagan’s pressure on the USSR and outward show of strength and solidarity (term used deliberately) with other Euro countries (the UK in particular) that brought them undone. Yes, that’s a bit simplistic but I’m keeping it simple.

And, no, I’m also not making any bold prediction here but there wouldn’t be a Western country in the world that, within their hearts, didn’t see China (CCP not Chinese) as a major threat, problem and as a deeply immoral and corrupt country.

Screwing around with China’s exports could help unsew a few geopolitical plans they have (or delay them for a bit)?

Lysander
Lysander
April 11, 2025 2:04 pm
Reply to  Lysander

And just think JC, if the Torys in the UK hadn’t been such wets and watermelons, we could have had one of the most powerful alliances in the West since the 80’s.

Alas…

johnjjj
johnjjj
April 11, 2025 2:04 pm
Reply to  JC

Yep I read a great story of one German manufacturing company who set up in China. The owner couldn’t understand why the workers were always so tired. Then he found they were reconstructing an exact copy of his factory nearby. They would go there after work and build it.
I got burned as well. I created an online training course in 2000. It was a partnership deal with a split of the enrollment fees. Once I’d complete it the Chinese partner simply disappeared. Over the years I would get an occasional message from those who had finished the course about how good it was!

m0nty
April 11, 2025 2:35 pm
Reply to  JC

LOL, Europe is not going to apply a 50% tariff on all Chinese trade. Dream on.

Europe used to have a solid friend in the US who paid for NATO security in exchange for (among other benefits) the USD being the reserve currency instead of the euro, but Trump has destroyed their trust.

I donโ€™t know that Trump is necessarily pushing Europe all the way to buddying up with China, but he is not doing much to build relations with Europe to treat China as a common enemy.

Europe is fast learning that it is on its own in international relations. There is no West and East any more, itโ€™s every man for himself. Maybe thatโ€™s a good thing, as the stakes in each stoush are (theoretically) lower. Maybe itโ€™s bad, because regional score-settling will have more chance to escalate in a less structured world.

Putin would be licking his lips at the potential for further undermining international solidarity against his mercantilist imperialism. Trump is doing a bang up job on his behalf.

Xi also has a lot of scope to expand Belt & Road into projects abandoned by Trump when he destroyed USAID. China has an image problem, no doubt, but Trump has left the field open for him to fix that.

cohenite
April 11, 2025 2:47 pm
Reply to  m0nty

Dickless still pushing the trope that Trump is puttie’s hump. Get’s the fool off I suppose. Puttie was so glad Trump bombed the crap out of Shayrat military base. How could Trump not be his boy.

Lysander
Lysander
April 11, 2025 3:12 pm
Reply to  cohenite

The tard was also sprouting how well Demented governed in the White House yesterday.

Even blind Jake Tapper could see otherwise.

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A teaser:

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In the name of defeating what they called an existential threat to democracy, Biden and his inner circle ensured it, tossing aside his implicit promise to serve for only one term, denying the existence of health issues the nation had been watching for years

cohenite
April 11, 2025 2:00 pm

The connivings of this boasberg shit are getting revealed:

Boasberg’s Coincidental Contempt Timeline

And why cackles will run again:

Why Dems Want Kamala Back | Frontpage Mag

She’s black and dumb so the puppet masters will be back in business.

JC
JC
April 11, 2025 2:05 pm
Reply to  dover0beach

Dudes, forget all the shit weโ€™ve been up to in the Sth China Sea. Weโ€™re friends, right?

JC
JC
April 11, 2025 2:28 pm
Reply to  dover0beach

And the sun will most likely set this evening. Whatโ€™s your point?

JC
JC
April 11, 2025 2:51 pm
Reply to  dover0beach

Makes huge difference. Agree. Especially when youโ€™ve spent the past decade trying to fck your neighbours.

Zippster
Zippster
April 11, 2025 5:53 pm
Reply to  dover0beach

If you stop rerouting our sh!t uncle Xi be cranky!

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
April 11, 2025 2:05 pm

Just looked at the video of the helo crash in NYC.
The earnest, but clueless, 3AW reporter told me this morning that “the propeller had come off”.
Helicopters do not have “propellers”.
With the exception of some large heavy lift helicopters (e.g. Chinook) they have a large rotor which provides lift and a smaller tail rotor which provides stability (i.e. stops the main rotor turning the body of the helicopter).
From the grainy footage it appears that the main rotor was still attached, but not turning and a chunk of the tail boom (including tail rotor) was missing.
If so, that is some catastrophic failure.
And, no, it is most unlikely to have anything to do with Orange Hitler sacking pen-pushers in DC.
BTW, the Bell 206 has been around forever and is a very robust and safe helo … as far as that goes for a helo.

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JC
JC
April 11, 2025 2:14 pm
Reply to  Sancho Panzer

My kid works in the Hudson Yards precinct called St Johnโ€™s Wharf. Her team pals saw it go down from the office window. She was getting a coffee.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
April 11, 2025 2:22 pm
Reply to  JC

Not working from home then?

JC
JC
April 11, 2025 2:30 pm
Reply to  Sancho Panzer

Down to one day a week now. She and the others in her group say itโ€™s inhumane.

Eyrie
Eyrie
April 11, 2025 2:30 pm
Reply to  Sancho Panzer

Sure looks to me like the main rotor fell off. You can see it in the air in this video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFNmmJ85NFA

A transmission seizure/failure will do it

DavidH
DavidH
April 11, 2025 4:02 pm
Reply to  Eyrie

Perhaps excessive control movement? Perhaps turbulence? It was that latter that did for Shirley Strachan (Skyhooks):
Shirley Strachan – Wikipedia

Zippster
Zippster
April 11, 2025 5:54 pm
Reply to  Sancho Panzer

Chicom bolts will do that to you

Boambee John
Boambee John
April 12, 2025 9:42 am
Reply to  Sancho Panzer

A helicopter: ten thousand moving parts flying in close formation.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
April 11, 2025 2:09 pm

Nothing against Kaitin, but getting to the 10 minute mark was a struggle.

You’ll see why.

43 Minutes of Libs Not Knowing Basic Biology

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
April 11, 2025 2:21 pm

Correction.
What I think I was seeing on the previous footage was the helicopter inverted with the landing skids facing up.
Looks like the main rotor separated.
It is attached to the vertical mast by a thing called the “Jesus nut” because that is what you say if it lets go.
It is possible for the main rotor to strike the tail boom, but not in normal flight.
You’d have to be pushing the boundaries somewhat for that to happen.
Depends what the sequence was.
Did the pilot put enough of a crimp in it for the rotor to hit the tail boom?
Or did the rotor detach and take out the tail boom as it came off?

Eyrie
Eyrie
April 11, 2025 2:40 pm
Reply to  Sancho Panzer

Transmission seizure will do all of that. Nasty things, helos.

Top Ender
Top Ender
April 11, 2025 2:21 pm

From the Oz on this great historian:

Keith Windschuttle fought the history wars against the โ€˜wokeโ€™ establishment

An era has come to an end with the death of Keith Windschuttle. He was the leader of that small band โ€“ and it was small โ€“ of those who fought the history wars against what we would now term the โ€œwokeโ€ academic history establishment during the first two decades of this century. He was principled, fearless and absolutely dedicated to getting the facts right.

What concerned Windschuttle was the same thing that matters for all good professional historians and journalists: that they get their facts correct and do not invent or make things up for political purposes.

Good history is grounded in the facts; arguments are only as good as the evidence on which they are built. It is sometimes forgotten that before he took on Aboriginal history he published a book on postmodernism in history that sold very well in America. He was an advocate of the traditional historianโ€™s craft of sifting facts and practising the art of the sceptic.

What really propelled Windschuttle into the national spotlight was his decision to apply his skills to the study of Indigenous Australian history; in particular, the various claims made about massacres and the number of Indigenous people who were killed by British settlers.

Dealing with numbers in history is a very difficult matter, especially when events occur that are not recorded at the time they occurred. What often happens is that stories develop that are passed down orally and consequently develop fictional elements. Any student of ancient history understands this process, which is why Herodotus is called both the father of history and the father of lies.

Windschuttle simply applied traditional historical practices to claims made regarding the massacre and murder of Indigenous Australians. He wanted evidence, in particular written evidence, to demonstrate that these events had actually occurred. He was sceptical, as are all good historians, regarding stories about events that occurred 200 years ago but could not be substantiated by contemporary written evidence. His basic point was that the rules of evidence need to be applied to all forms of history; the rules cannot be changed for the history of particular groups.

When he applied those rules the number of murders and massacres declined considerably.

This brought him into conflict with academic historians, especially those, and many of them were non-Indigenous, who were making a career out of a particular approach to Indigenous history. They had a much looser approach to the evaluation of evidence and accepted stories that were difficult to verify.

This was largely because they had a political agenda that sought to make the British settlers to Australia appear to be as callous and brutal as possible in the name of enacting โ€œprogressiveโ€ policies in the present. And there was some virtue-signalling going on.

Windschuttle was extremely good at going through footnotes and establishing that they did not support the case they were trying to make, especially in the case of Lyndall Ryan.

This enraged many members of the Australian history establishment who could not bear that someone was daring to challenge their monopoly of the story of Australia. It was particularly galling because Windschuttle was not a member of the academic historiansโ€™ club, and he was daring to find fault with their professional practices.

The result was quite terrifying. At the Australian Historical Conference held in Newcastle in 2004 a special session was held to discuss the โ€œWindschuttle problemโ€, and these highly paid and supposedly rational professionals spent the time baying for his blood.

I was present at that session, and I can only describe it as a descent into mob behaviour. It was an attempt to โ€œcancelโ€ Windschuttle. There was no attempt to respond to the very important issues he raised. Rather, these historians seemed to believe Windschuttle was part of a conspiracy directed against academic historians. One wonders what would have occurred if Windschuttle had been present.

Of course, none of this worried Windschuttle himself who seemed to revel in the controversy he had created. He was an independent agent who owed nothing to the academic establishment. They could huff and puff but they could not blow his house down.

The only price he paid was that his books on Indigenous history, which are important and deserve to be read, were not set for any course taught by university history departments. After all, Windschuttle was not a โ€œrealโ€ historian, and his sceptical approach undermined the progressive agenda โ€œrealโ€ historians wanted to push.

Windschuttleโ€™s participation in the history wars raises some important issues. Why did a high-quality historian who insisted on the need for rational argument and the rigorous evaluation of evidence come to be so vilified?

How did historians who claim to uphold rigorous professional values come to behave in such an irrational and unprofessional way, and allow politics to dictate the way in which they viewed the past? Whatever academics might say, Keith Windschuttle was an exemplary practitioner of the art of history and his books should be read by anyone who appreciates that art.

Greg Melleuish is a historian and author of Cultural Liberalism (1995) in Australia and Despotic State or Free Individual (2014).

Mak Siccar
Mak Siccar
April 11, 2025 3:00 pm
Reply to  Top Ender

Windschuttleโ€™s participation in the history wars raises some important issues. Why did a high-quality historian who insisted on the need for rational argument and the rigorous evaluation of evidence come to be so vilified?

Hmmmmm, shades of Geoffrey Blainey? Pack animal attitudes and behaviour by the in crowd.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
April 11, 2025 3:32 pm
Reply to  Top Ender

Read Windschuttle’s articles in “Quadrant” on the subject of the frontier massacres – was rather waiting for his book.

mem
mem
April 11, 2025 2:24 pm

Just a thought, I wonder where Dover could have an arrangement with another site where in an emergency circumstance, he could post a message saying new cat is down and working on it or similar, so that cats could go there for assurance. Any thoughts?

mem
mem
April 11, 2025 2:53 pm
Reply to  dover0beach

Thanks for that Dover.

Indolent
Indolent
April 11, 2025 2:53 pm
Reply to  dover0beach

Just what I was going to suggest. It was down for me for hours and still is on my phone. I get a “Dreamhost” message that NewCatallaxy Blog is “almost here”.

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Crossie
Crossie
April 11, 2025 4:14 pm
Reply to  dover0beach

Anything for those of us who are not on Twitter?

Top Ender
Top Ender
April 11, 2025 2:32 pm

Meanwhile in the Territory:

…more than 73.7 per cent of NT principals and school leaders [are] reporting they were subjected to physical violence โ€“ compared to the national average of 49.6 per cent.

NT News

JC
JC
April 11, 2025 2:46 pm

Reply to Lysander above.

I was slightly burned too. There was a mad rush to buy ASIC-approved licenses to manage money. I got one over 15 years ago, and kept it dormant as I was managing my own net worth. Someone encouraged me to get one as they said it could be worth a lot of money in coming years. Out of the blue, I received a letter asking if I wanted to sell it. I wasnโ€™t sure if it was legitimate, but I pursued it. It was legit, and the deal was to sell it to a Chinese interest. Apparently, the Chinese were using it to enhance their reputation by saying they were licensed in Australia. The deal went through, and I received a lump sum with the promise of a tail stream over two years. I never saw a cent of the tail stream, but I suspected I wouldnโ€™t and made sure the lump sum was generous.

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Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
April 11, 2025 3:21 pm
Reply to  JC

I’m surprised selling those licenses is allowed. It’s a sort of quality laundering. An analogy to software security would be a TOCTOU vulnerability. Did the buyer actually have to pass any tests before or after buying the license?

JC
JC
April 11, 2025 3:29 pm

I was too, but you can, or could at the time. I forget, but I think ASIC may have put a stop to it. It was around 2018 (ish).

The one thing I learned it’s that it’s more complex, with tons more paper work, selling a company than it is selling real estate.

Lysander
Lysander
April 11, 2025 4:03 pm
Reply to  JC

Thnks JC, the towndicker is about I’m afraid.

Indolent
Indolent
April 11, 2025 3:02 pm

@JDVance

There is a category of DC insider who wants to fight an actual war with China but also wants China to manufacture much of our critical supply. This is insane.

President Trump wants peace, but also wants fair trade and more self-reliance for the American economy.

Indolent
Indolent
April 11, 2025 3:02 pm
JC
JC
April 11, 2025 3:07 pm

Sorry guys. You know how we’ve plundered your fishing grounds, and when you’ve complained, we’ve told you to fck right off. Sincerest apologies.

AP reports: โ€œChina is reaching out to other nationsโ€ฆmeeting only partial success with many countries unwilling to ally with the main target of President Donald Trumpโ€™s trade war.โ€

Lysander
Lysander
April 11, 2025 4:04 pm
Reply to  JC

Partial success with North Korea, Iran and Yemen is hardly even “partial” LOL!

Roger
Roger
April 11, 2025 6:08 pm
Reply to  JC

Neighbourhood bully meets match.

Even Handsome Boy won’t hold hands with Xi now.

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Indolent
Indolent
April 11, 2025 3:10 pm

@Rightanglenews

BREAKING – Chinaโ€™s Commerce Ministry is urging President Trump to โ€œmeet halfway,โ€ saying โ€œthe door to dialogue is openโ€ and calling for differences to be resolved through talks, after Trump paused global tariffs for every country except China.

Crossie
Crossie
April 11, 2025 4:18 pm
Reply to  Indolent

Why should Trump talk to Commerce Ministry? If Xi wants to talk he knows whom to call.

Zippster
Zippster
April 11, 2025 5:58 pm
Reply to  Indolent

The door to dialogue closed several decades ago, how about several trillion for compensation for all the IP you stole and several more trillion for the covid you unleashed

Indolent
Indolent
April 11, 2025 3:13 pm

@mazemoore

2019. Personal injury attorney Jasmine Crockett claims that she decided to go into law after being the victim of “a hate crime or two.”

Crockett claims that she received hate mail and that her friends’ cars were keyed with the N word. She claims that her college called Johnnie Cochran’s law firm and that the lawyer assigned to her inspired her to get into law.

A newspaper in Tennessee looked into the claims and found zero evidence of any of it. Cochran’s firm didn’t respond to requests for info and Crockett’s school Rhodes College had no record of the incidents. No police reports, no record of hiring lawyers. Crockett herself has said that she can’t remember the lawyer’s name who inspired her to make the life changing decision.

In a different version of the story, Crockett claimed that she originally was going to be an anesthesiologist until an “advocate” helped her get through those terrible hate crimes she experienced in college.

Hopefully the Democrat party keeps putting her forward.

Not only a liar but also a total idiot –

@EndWokeness

Rep. Jasmine Crockett: “Connect the dots. You cannot afford your home, groceries thanks to deportations”

Lee
Lee
April 11, 2025 4:26 pm
Reply to  Indolent

It is very noticeable how Crockett changes her accent depending on who she is talking to.

She was doing it even before Kamala.

Roger
Roger
April 11, 2025 6:45 pm
Reply to  Lee

Makes you wonder what accent Kamala will adopt on her visit to QLD.

hzhousewife
hzhousewife
April 11, 2025 6:41 pm
Reply to  Indolent

anesthesiologist !!!!!! In her dreams !!

JC
JC
April 11, 2025 3:17 pm
Reply to  dover0beach

Wooed? Sure, Your guy is going to woo them with cheap imports – as though they can’t get that crap already.

He could bribe the leaders, which is what they do already, so that’s possible I guess.

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Frank
Frank
April 11, 2025 3:44 pm
Reply to  JC

He could bribe the leaders, which is what they do already, so thatโ€™s possible I guess.

Watch the ALP response with this in mind.

Roger
Roger
April 11, 2025 6:16 pm
Reply to  Frank

Albanese & Co. have already indicated their position.

Diversifying trade away from China.

Handsome Boy has declined Xi’s offer to hold hands.

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Perfidious Albino
Perfidious Albino
April 11, 2025 9:16 pm
Reply to  dover0beach

Not hard to imagine the recent hyperventilating over Darwin Port from both sides of politics may have been prompted by a strong request from the US.

Indolent
Indolent
April 11, 2025 3:15 pm

Weren’t they loudly berating the DOJ for being too slow to go after Trump?

@RickyDoggin

BREAKING: Evidence has emerged that confirms Biden’s direct involvement in Jack Smith’s investigation of the January 6th probe against Trump.

Indolent
Indolent
April 11, 2025 3:19 pm

Dreadful. Everyone died. It came apart in the air.

@Bubblebathgirl

Watch as the helicopter over the Hudson River falls and makes a loud thump sound.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
April 11, 2025 4:15 pm
Reply to  Indolent

A Democrat of course.

Indolent
Indolent
April 11, 2025 3:21 pm

Because South Africa, which cannot even keep peace in it’s own domain, is the best mediator.

@LauraLoomer

Just a reminder that @ZelenskyyUa Zelensky is set to be in Cape Town, South Africa today.

Also in Cape Town, South Africa: Hunter Biden.

Will they be meeting while they are there?

Indolent
Indolent
April 11, 2025 3:22 pm

This has been known as ignored for at least four years.

@bennyjohnson

Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard says they have EVIDENCE of voting machines being manipulated to STEAL elections:

“We have evidence of these electronic voting systems being vulnerable to hackers and vulnerable to exploitation to manipulate the results.”

Lysander
Lysander
April 11, 2025 3:57 pm

I did some lecturing in politics and history for a few years across three WA universities (two were casual and one was part time/ongoing). One university, where I was part time, took great umbrage at me marking down students who were making activist statements in their essays.

You know, saying things (back in 2016) like “Trump who presents as a threat to democracy” and I’d simply ask for footnotes and footnotes had to be authoritative, from an academic source, not opinionated and not media nor blogs or anything like that.

There is a way to say such a thing in an essay and you can even use proper references, as such:

  • Trump, whom some have argued may be “a threat to democracy” (CITE/SOURCE, YEAR).

I wasn’t invited back as I was told some “facts” were “universally accepted” and such claims were as logical and as true as “trees are made of wood” and therefore don’t need references.

I had a pretty severe falling out with a very well-known Perfesser about this and we haven’t spoken in 9 years. Although, in November 2024, I sent him a link to a YMCA dance, for kicks. No response.

(I’m no Windschuttle, not even close)

cohenite
April 11, 2025 4:01 pm
Reply to  Lysander

You’re doing your bit. Unfortunately leftoids are not responsive to reason when it comes to moral issues where their egos are on the line.

Crossie
Crossie
April 11, 2025 4:24 pm
Reply to  Lysander

Isn’t what that academic did called malpractice?

Lysander
Lysander
April 11, 2025 4:28 pm
Reply to  Crossie

I think the term is “indoctrination”

Vicki
Vicki
April 11, 2025 8:37 pm
Reply to  Lysander

Thank the Lord I was out of academia before the basic tenets of intellectual inquiry fell into disrepute. I canโ€™t begin to think of the horror of enduring it .

cohenite
April 11, 2025 3:58 pm

My theory is while the % of really stupid people in the West is not changing their absolute numbers are so that increase gives them undue influence, particularly in the msm, which is already full of stupid people. This influence filters through to our gutless pollies with bad policy results. Take this mob for instance, queers for palestine and assorted other alphabet loons interviewed at a pro palli rally. Darwin would be turning in his grave:

(206) Queers For Palestine Protestor Gets a HARSH Reality Check After Finding Out Hamas is Evil! – YouTube

Roger
Roger
April 11, 2025 6:19 pm
Reply to  cohenite

Darwin would be turning in his grave

Nah…he’s still getting over the shock of being wrong.

Lysander
Lysander
April 11, 2025 4:08 pm

I’d much prefer to buy cheap crap from India than China (and India should take full advantage of this situation!).

Indian Minister for Industry going FULL TRUMP!

โ€˜Opportunity Of A Lifetimeโ€™ Piyush Goyalโ€™s Remark Over Trumpโ€™s Tariff Blaming China Draws Flak From Padosis – Tech

It opens a huge opportunity. Everybody is excited. We stand in very different times. The world is going through turbulence in the next two and a half decades. We have an opportunity of a lifetime. And if each one of us seizes this moment. India is unstoppable.

Eyrie
Eyrie
April 11, 2025 4:22 pm
Reply to  Lysander

They need to at least somewhat control their corruption and dishonesty first.

Rohan
Rohan
April 11, 2025 4:28 pm

I’m getting smashed by requests to buy chemicals relevant to our industry from China. And I always get a few every week. But this week it’s been a lot. I mean dozens per day. I’ve had to retweaked the spam filter to cope as it’s annoying.

I know, anecdotal and sample size of 1, me.

But is this what Trump means by #winning?

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
April 11, 2025 4:30 pm

Another classic.

Danger Dan Reviews:

You’ll wish you never watched this.

bons
bons
April 11, 2025 4:52 pm

My local MHR is a good bloke. But when his people called up and asked me to help out on the both, I launched into a diatribe about net zero, Jacinta being sidelined, muzzies, Israel, Dutton weak, etc.

Having got that off my chest, I realised that abusing them achieved nothing. As the smug ‘Moderates’ said three elections ago, “we have nowhere else to go”.

So its off to the booth, but with bad grace.

Salvatore - Iron Publican
April 11, 2025 6:13 pm
Reply to  bons

The smug moderates are shocked when the answer at the booth is:
Actually, we do have somewhere else to go: Bob/Pauline/Clive

Roger
Roger
April 11, 2025 6:20 pm
Reply to  bons

You don’t have an independent/minor party worth supporting?

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Rabz
April 11, 2025 10:08 pm
Reply to  bons

Bons – you are merely encouraging them.

Not a sensible strategy.

calli
calli
April 11, 2025 5:02 pm

Is having your bridal pictures taken on the steps of Parliament a thing in Melbourne?

So far Iโ€™ve witnessed three groups and itโ€™s still early!

In Sydney, the Opera House I understand, but the abode of the socialist shysters? ๐Ÿ™‚

Lysander
Lysander
April 11, 2025 5:33 pm
Reply to  calli

LOL! That’s where we had our wedding photos done (although I did work there at the time so had “exclusive access” to parts not public)!

calli
calli
April 11, 2025 5:45 pm
Reply to  Lysander

Well done! The building is beautiful, although I prefer the old Treasury. Brides might be daunted by General Gordon glowering down on them.

One bride wanted to live dangerouslyโ€ฆshe was wearing an immense crinoline. One puff of wind up those stepsโ€ฆ. ๐Ÿ˜€

Lysander
Lysander
April 11, 2025 6:00 pm
Reply to  calli

Indeed! And getting married in mid-July in Melbourne was also not a great idea… the boys were warm. Not so much the sheilas. ๐Ÿ˜›

Diogenes
Diogenes
April 11, 2025 5:05 pm

Satire ? The Bee has done it again

https://youtu.be/7z6o0kjuHoY?feature=shared

Indolent
Indolent
April 11, 2025 5:48 pm

@nicksortor

#BREAKING: DHS Secretary Kristi Noem has announced she and Trump have stopped ALL GRANT FUNDING for the NGOs who are assisting in the invasion of the United States

Organizations like Catholic Charities and Red Cross received over $340 MILLION in 2024 from DHS assist illegals crossing the border.

โ€œWeโ€™re not spending another dime to help the destruction of this country.โ€

Lysander
Lysander
April 11, 2025 6:00 pm

Hendo has a good section this week, in his correspondence, on Pell:

Issue 723 โ€“ The Sydney Institute

Worth a read!

johanna
johanna
April 11, 2025 6:29 pm
Reply to  Lysander

Woof!

P
P
April 11, 2025 6:35 pm
Reply to  Lysander

St George Pell? Maybe.
Monica Doumit – Catholic Weekly
April 8, 2025

Roger
Roger
April 11, 2025 7:26 pm
Reply to  Lysander

“Petro Georgiou, among the last of the tough-minded small โ€œlโ€ Liberals and a man known among many as the โ€œconscience of the Liberal Partyโ€, has died aged 77.

He spent his parliamentary career, from 1994 to 2010, sitting on the backbench, becoming famous for standing up to Liberal prime minister John Howard on human rights. He refused an early offer to join Howardโ€™s frontbench, making it clear he put a higher value on exercising his freedom to oppose the partyโ€™s hardline policies, particularly towards asylum seekers.”

Tony Wrightโ€™s comment in this instance is simply incorrect. John Howard explained the situation in his book Lazarus Rising: A Personal and Political Autobiography (HarperCollins 2010). Here is what Australiaโ€™s second longest-serving prime minister had to say at Page 79:

In 1997 as Prime Minister, when doing a reshuffle, I offered Petro Georgiou, the MP for Kooyong, a position as a parliamentary secretary. He knocked it back, implying that it was beneath his dignity, saying โ€œIโ€™m too old and ugly to be a parliamentary secretaryโ€. This was several years before refugee and asylum seeker issues were under debate, so Petro did not reject the job on policy principle. Whatever his motives, it was a foolish response. I never offered him another job. Brendan Nelson, Malcolm Turnbull and Tony Abbott all started off as parliamentary secretaries; each was made a cabinet minister by me. All of them would ultimately lead the party. Who did Petro imagine he was?

If only Howard had exercised such wisdom in dealing with another fish the ALP rejected – Malcolm Turnbull.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
April 11, 2025 9:35 pm
Reply to  Roger

Georgio should have been expelled.

Joined wrong party.

H B Bear
H B Bear
April 12, 2025 12:05 am
Reply to  Rockdoctor

Wog Malcolm.

Rabz
April 11, 2025 10:21 pm
Reply to  Roger

A greek communist idiot (BIRM).

I for one am glad he’s finally dead.

An Al Grassbyesque figure, blessed with even fewer redeeming features.

Having said that, I have never had the misfortune to have seen a picture or video of him, so he gets a 10 (out of ten) for being an all round sanctimonious tax hoovering corruptocrat dickhead and incomprehensible waffling windbag.

About the best one might say of him was that he was indistinguishable from the many infuriating socialist mediocrities he chose to secrete himself among.

An utterly pointless existence that should never ever be even briefly thought about emulating, kiddees.

Louis Litt
Louis Litt
April 11, 2025 11:57 pm
Reply to  Rabz

Rabz
wasโ€™nt Georgia a Romanian?

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
April 11, 2025 6:07 pm

Oliver Schulz hearing: Ex-soldier questions โ€˜record of interviewโ€™Joanna Panagopoulos

35 minutes ago

A former senior ADF member says he was encouraged by interviewers to โ€œover-embellishโ€ his answers when he was questioned for the third time over the alleged war crime murder of a local man in Afghanistan 12 years ago.
Speaking directly to the local court magistrate, the seasoned soldier raised โ€œconcernsโ€ about a record of interview placed in front of him from three months after the alleged unlawful killing by Oliver Schulz, that was carried out post-deployment in Australia.
He said he was directed to answer questions in a โ€œwordyโ€ and non-specific way by investigators after he believed the matter had been fully investigated โ€œon countryโ€.
The man, who cannot be named for legal reasons, gave evidence on Friday at the committal hearing of SAS soldier Mr Schulz, who was charged in March 2023 with the war crime of murder after footage emerged of him allegedly shooting local Afghan man Dad Mohammed three times on May 28, 2012, in a wheat field.
Prosecutor Phillip Strickland SC read out parts of the soldierโ€™s โ€œrecord of interviewโ€ from the second Inquiry Officerโ€™s Inquiry (IOI) into the allegations in late-August 2012, carried out in Australia. The soldier said another IOI had been carried out in Afghanistan closer to the alleged unlawful killing by three senior ranked officers, as well as a less-official โ€œQuick Assessmentโ€.
The local Sydney courtroom, which hosted multiple ADF witnesses from the same deployment this week, heard the Australians received a complaint at the time that a male Afghan national named Dad Mohammed was shot in the head and stabbed in the neck and the heart, and killed.
Mr Strickland SC asked the soldier whether he remembered the complaint from March 28, to which he replied โ€œthere was always a complaint โ€ฆ anytime there was a jackpotโ€ โ€“ a term for the killing of a target. It was the SOP (Standard Operating Procedure) of the insurgency to โ€œrope inโ€ the village and โ€œsee how much money we can get from youโ€. โ€œThe complaints would take that form and any other (form) you could possibly imagine,โ€ he said.
Mr Strickland read out a part of the record where the soldier was asked to explain โ€œhow the Afghan male was shotโ€.
The soldierโ€™s answer began with โ€œAs I understand, Sirโ€ which appeared to suggest he had not seen the events himself. The soldier told the court he did not recall May 28, 2012 at all, or whether he was speaking from his own memory or from what he had been told.
His description in the record of interview was that as they approached the point where they believed the insurgent commander may be, this Afghan male, Mohammed, seemed to be โ€œmanoeuvringโ€.
They tried to โ€œget him to stopโ€ by using aircraft force in front of him and by throwing smoke, which he explained to the court was one way to identify the location and direction of an individual.

Not Uh oh
Not Uh oh
April 11, 2025 6:11 pm

And from the kiddies at 7 news referring to the tarrifs, โ€œand another casualty is, oil. Down $10- a barrelโ€.
Oh dear.

Lee
Lee
April 11, 2025 6:21 pm
Reply to  Not Uh oh

“Casualty” makes it sound like a bad thing.

Have I entered the Bizarro World?

Who wants dearer petrol?

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Roger
Roger
April 11, 2025 6:48 pm
Reply to  Lee

Who wants dearer petrol?

People who drive electric cars for that sense of moral superiority.

Like news readers, maybe.

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mem
mem
April 11, 2025 6:23 pm
Reply to  Not Uh oh

We used to call dumb kids at school “dip sticks”. I guess it still applies.

Miltonf
Miltonf
April 11, 2025 6:43 pm
Reply to  mem

deadshit is a better term

Indolent
Indolent
April 11, 2025 6:45 pm
hzhousewife
hzhousewife
April 11, 2025 7:12 pm
Reply to  Indolent

It will happen here. We have to go to the meetings (VDH).

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
April 11, 2025 6:53 pm

Early evening at the Cafe. Went out and lady brushtail was in the camellia, so I gave her half a slice of bread. Went back inside and gave her a while to eat it.

Then went out again with a carrot. She was just finishing her bread so I waited. Whereupon something bit my big toe.

Look down, male possum on the porch. Bent down as quick as I could (which is an ask as I’m 190 cm) and got the carrot in front of his nose before he could do any more damage. He grabbed it and vanished into the camellia.

Back and get another carrot, present to lady possum who graciously accepted it.

bons
bons
April 11, 2025 6:56 pm

Kids! They’re all the same.

Arky
April 11, 2025 7:05 pm

They make cool hats or car seat covers.

Foxbody
Foxbody
April 11, 2025 11:03 pm
Reply to  Arky

And a big mob of them can be used to make a traditional third tribe opera cloak.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
April 11, 2025 7:21 pm

Federal election 2025: Peppermint Grove bans candidate signs, Keep the Sheep postersFrom the West.

“Keep the Sheep” are running a poster campaign in Peppermint Grove.
“Keep the Sheep. Put Kate Chaney last.”

Roger
Roger
April 11, 2025 7:28 pm

This might need more teasing out for those not familiar with Perth, Zulu.

H B Bear
H B Bear
April 12, 2025 12:08 am

Weโ€™ve got a Keep the Sheep corfute (not Peppermint Grove).

Lee
Lee
April 11, 2025 7:42 pm

English council Hertfordshire bans VE Day Parade Celebrations because “too elitist” (about 6.35 in):

โ€œMy Jaw Just Droppedโ€ | Council BANS VE Day Parade Celebrations

This is offensive beyond words to all who served, and in many cases died.

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Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
April 11, 2025 7:44 pm

โ€˜Thatโ€™s my choiceโ€™ : Jacinta Nampijinpa Price shrugs off angry protestors at campaign event in Bunbury
The West Australian
Fri, 11 April 2025 4:33PM

Comments

Ezra Kaye

Coalition Senator Jacinta Nampijinpa Price shrugged off dozens of protestors at a campaign event in Bunbury today, claiming the choice not to consult with the local Noongar elders before arriving was her right.
Liberal candidate for Forrest Ben Small, Senator Michaelia Cash and Senator Nampijinpa Price hosted a town hall event at the Sanctuary Golf Club where they took questions from the public and hoped to sway some unsure voters in the South West.
The protest came after local academic Renae Isaacs-Guthridge emailed Mr Small earlier in the week, calling for Senator Nampijinpa Price to be dropped from the event.
Ms Isaacs-Guthridge, an academic at Edith Cowan University and Wardandi Custodian, said Senator Nampijinpa Priceโ€™s positions on the Voice were considered by many Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people to be โ€œharmful and dismissive of lived experiencesโ€.
โ€œBringing such perspectives to Wardandi Country without appropriate consultation appears to disregard local cultural protocols and community sentiment,โ€ she said.
Protestors gathered at the entrance to golf club chanting โ€œho ho, Jacinta Price has to goโ€ and displayed a number of anti-Price banners.
The town hall meeting was delayed by several minutes while the two senators and the Forrest hopeful entered via a back door to avoid being heckled at the main entrance.
A large squad of police and security were on deck to monitor the proceedings.
Journalists were denied access to the meeting and waited for more than an hour to speak to the Liberal politicians.
When asked why she didnโ€™t speak to the protestors outside Ms Nampijinpa Price said it was โ€œbecause of the aggressionโ€.
โ€œIโ€˜m an Indigenous woman whoโ€™s grown up with violence in my community and my extended family โ€” Iโ€™ve been a survivor of domestic violence myself,โ€ she said.
โ€œI have seen before crowds where thereโ€™s potential for violence and aggression and threatening behaviour.
โ€œWhy should I, as a woman, have to step out into a crowd where thereโ€™s even aggressive men. Why should I do that? Would a white woman in this country be expected to go out in front of an aggressive crowd and put themselves potentially in danger?โ€
Ms Nampijinpa Price also accused society of having โ€œdouble standardsโ€ for Indigenous and non-Indigenous Australians when it comes to adopting certain parts of their respective cultures โ€” such as the protocol for Aboriginals to speak with the elders of a community on arrival.
โ€œIโ€™m supposed to live by Aboriginal culture โ€” because Iโ€™m Aboriginal, I donโ€™t have the freedom of choice in this country to choose what elements of culture that I want to adopt in my life.
โ€œThe expectation is that we have to respect elders. We might not even know them, but we have to respect them because weโ€™re told thatโ€™s what culture dictates to you.

โ€œI donโ€™t know who these elders are. I know elders in my community who have raped children. Iโ€™m not going to respect them. I expect that I would respect people mutually and not because of their own appointed status.โ€
โ€œIโ€™m an Australian. If I choose to want to follow parts of traditional culture, that is my choice. But if I donโ€™t want to, that is also my choice.โ€

Miltonf
Miltonf
April 11, 2025 8:05 pm

Are they any good academics left? Also what a collection of violent, entitled thugs.

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Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
April 11, 2025 8:29 pm
Reply to  Miltonf

I just want to ask all these “Aboriginal” academics and activists a could of questions, which, from memory, someone posted here some time ago.

What did you have, before the arrival of the European settlers, that you don’t have now?

What are you prepared to give up, to return to where you were, before the arrival of the European settlers?

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
April 11, 2025 9:07 pm

Sorry, after all the malarkey about the mythical rainbow serpent in this part of the world, and someone was facing a prison sentence for upsetting said mythical rainbow serpent, I just can’t take this “culture” seriously, any more.

Damon
Damon
April 11, 2025 9:59 pm

Follow the money. There are probably a lot of activists becoming very wealthy.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
April 12, 2025 12:26 am

She’s an intelligent woman, with the courage to speak her mind. Good on her.

JC
JC
April 11, 2025 8:17 pm

The US dollar is weakening. Dover was giddily reporting this during the day. But letโ€™s think about it. Conventional wisdom suggested that the US dollar would strengthen with the tariff announcements, which would reduce the tariffs’ impact. Instead, we now have a weaker dollar, meaning the tariffsโ€™ effects on countries with strengthening currencies are amplified. How is this mitigating the tariffsโ€™ effects when, in fact, itโ€™s making them worse?
The US government often wears two hats: one for trade and one for managing the reserve currency. At the moment, rightly or wrongly, itโ€™s wearing the trade hat. With the latest reported inflation trending downward and a desire to see the deficit improve, the administration is likely pleased with a weaker dollar.

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Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
April 11, 2025 8:43 pm

Got a question on economics of balance of trade.
I had assumed that an imbalance in trade between nations is not a problem for basically the same reason that your extreme imbalance of trade with Colesworths is not a problem. It’s a free trade where each walks away with something they valued more than what they started with, wealth is generated, and Coles is totally happy to get only money from you and not bartered goods. Thomas Sowell also thinks nobody should be worried about balance of trade, which cemented my view.

Heard an odd counter-argument the other day. Money circulates endlessly within an economy in the Colesworths example, but money leaves the economy to pay for imports, so the Colesworths example isn’t a valid analogy for international trade. There is still a growing problem of dollars going out but not coming back.
At the time that stumped me and I had to go away and think about it.

I’m still not convinced trade imbalance is a problem because an incorrect assumption in the argument is that there is nothing the seller can do with the dollars they received or that the dollars won’t come back.
In the abstract case, of course the seller must place some value on the dollars they get or they wouldn’t be accepting them as fair compensation, so there is some way they can spend the dollars.
In the specific case of the USA it is even easier to see this because the USD is the reserve currency which can be used to buy very useful commodities such as oil. Plus the seller can turn around and buy US Treasury bonds with the dollars as an investment in the wealth generating machine of the USA market.

Does the “outflow of money” argument hold any water?
Can you think of any reason as to why a growing imbalance of trade would be a problem?

will
will
April 12, 2025 1:43 am

The FX is just another market, so if $US are demanded to pay for imports, then other things being equal, the $A will depreciate and imports become more expensive, i.e. Aust becomes poorer. Aust need to export items of value so that the $A is demanded for FX, or alternatively needs investors to buy $A with $US so that the currency does not depreciate. If Aust does not encourage investment or have valuable exports, we as a nation become poorer via depreciation of the currency. The $A has held its value due to iron ore and coal exports, and high interest rates on Australian government bonds.

Bazinga
Bazinga
April 12, 2025 6:18 am

Imbalance still holds if you buy something of value. Labor has failed buying things of value.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
April 11, 2025 8:52 pm

JC

 April 11, 2025 3:07 pm

Sorry guys. You know how weโ€™ve plundered your fishing grounds, and when youโ€™ve complained, weโ€™ve told you to fck right off. Sincerest apologies.

AP reports: โ€œChina is reaching out to other nationsโ€ฆmeeting only partial success with many countries unwilling to ally with the main target of President Donald Trumpโ€™s trade war.โ€

Bwah ha ha ha ha.
“Partial success” is perhaps a polite way of saying that the engine in the Xi-car is revving but the wheels are spinning.
Announcements that the Chunks “have secured a meeting with the Trade Minister of Botswana to gang up on Trump” mean precisely zero.
The world knows that Trump isn’t taking prisoners.
Anyone stupid enough to side with Xi knows they will be enjoying 145% tariffs … no ifs, no buts.
Luigi is stupid enough to do it.

cohenite
April 11, 2025 9:14 pm

Islam spreading its eschatological vomit stained tentacles everywhere, Australia gets a mention, and only the wussians are offering assistance:

The Sahel: Emerging Center of Global Islamism :: Gatestone Institute

Miltonf
Miltonf
April 11, 2025 9:19 pm

I see the supercilious poms at ‘Times radio’ are still bleating about Trump.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
April 11, 2025 9:32 pm
Reply to  Miltonf

It’s weird.
If you landed from another planet last week you would think “tariffs” was some form of Black Death unleashed by Tangerine Man and that they had never existed before in the history of planet Earth.

Miltonf
Miltonf
April 11, 2025 9:36 pm
Reply to  Sancho Panzer

and this never ending procession of legacy meja hacks decrying it- makes me think that a uni ‘education’ cripples you

Boambee John
Boambee John
April 12, 2025 10:03 am
Reply to  Miltonf

Certainly a course to become a j’ismists does.

See: mUntard.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
April 11, 2025 9:45 pm

That’ll Show Him news (the Tele):

Activists have smashed up a cardboard model of a Tesla cybertruck and chanted for Elon Musk to โ€œgo to hellโ€ outside the Tesla headquarters in Sydney, joining protests across the world against the billionaire and his involvement in the Trump administration.

There’s footage of this pin the piece. The model cybertruck is indeed made of cardboard, but is two feet long.

About 50 activists from NSW university groups and student representative councils camped

Potentially a common theme here.

outside the Tesla Sydney offices in Alexandria on Friday night with a giant โ€œhonk if you hate Elonโ€ sign, staging one of the first protests in Australia against Musk.

Noodle-armed drivers, however, appear unable to simultaneously drive and honk:

Drivers on their commute home honked and pumped their fists in support of the protest, with one person yelling โ€œf โ€ฆ Muskโ€ as they sped past.

One motorist driving past accidentally crashed into the back of another vehicle, disrupting the protest as a tow-truck came to assess the damage.

Brilliant. Just brilliant. Musk would be shivering with terror as we speak. Incidentally, I’d like just one of these uni nerds to correctly articulate what a tariff is and how it works.

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Rabz
April 11, 2025 10:00 pm

Drivers on their commute home honked and pumped their fists in support of the protest, with one personage of indeterminate gender squawking โ€œf โ€ฆ Muskโ€ as they sped past.

Yet, how many of them would have been young womanages fantasising about bearing (yet) another of the Musk’s kiddees as they sped past?

Thanks, imbeciles of the braindead lamestream meeja – nothing like covering the big issues with a pillow until they cease breathing.

Again.

Indolent
Indolent
April 11, 2025 10:16 pm

@BrianEastwood_X

Holy sh!t!! The Biden Administration held private talks with the Chinese over the spy balloon and hid any evidence of the balloon until they couldnโ€™t keep it from the public any longer!

What do we classify this behavior as?

Miltonf
Miltonf
April 11, 2025 10:22 pm

About 50 activists from NSW university groups and student representative councils camped

just proves my point about hiya ejucashun- its expansion has been a disaster

Indolent
Indolent
April 11, 2025 10:27 pm

I found this link though Catturd, who prefaces every item on Ukraine with “Not another penny!”

As to the content, the link I posted this morning makes it pretty clear that what Zelensky really wanted a security guarantee intended to drag the U.S. into the conflict and had no intention of signing without it, having actually already signed away the rights in question to the U.K. before Trump was even inaugurated. A real prince.

@americasgreat

BREAKING- Stop tapping your finger and talk like an equal” โ€” Zelensky tells US Treasury Secretary

President Zelensky revealed how he shut down Scott Bessent, after he tried to pressure Ukraine into signing a rare-earth metals deal before Zelenskyโ€™s White House visit.

โ€œHe said: โ€˜You need to sign this now.โ€™ I said: โ€˜Stop tapping your finger, and letโ€™s talk seriously.โ€™ He probably expected a different kind of conversation. But I donโ€™t see Ukraine as some third-rate country. We should talk as equals.โ€

GIVING ONE MORE DIME OR WEAPON TO THIS A$$HOLE IS A MISTAKE. YOU DONT BITE THE HAND THAT FEEDS YOU.

Indolent
Indolent
April 11, 2025 10:29 pm
Miltonf
Miltonf
April 11, 2025 10:30 pm

Really amazes me that these plummy voiced poms have the impertinence to lecture the US.

Rabz
April 11, 2025 10:30 pm

Who wants dearer petrol?

politicians, bureaucrats, quackademics and j’ismists, for starters.

Those “best placed” to identify “the peoples who shall not be allowed to enjoy nice things”.

Miltonf
Miltonf
April 11, 2025 10:33 pm
Reply to  Rabz

Correct- essentially class warfare. Makes me think of that John Adams idiot.

Indolent
Indolent
April 11, 2025 10:36 pm
m0nty
April 11, 2025 11:01 pm
Reply to  dover0beach

Can Trump resist the temptation to increase his tariffs to infinity-plus-one-no-backsies percent?

MatrixTransform
April 11, 2025 11:23 pm
Reply to  m0nty

please, Brer Fox

please don’t throw me into the briar patch

JC
JC
April 12, 2025 2:09 am
Reply to  dover0beach

You causally left this part out.

Tesla halts China orders for US-made models following tariff hikes

Tesla Inc. (TSLA) has halted orders in China for its US-made Model S and Model X vehicles, following a fresh round of tariff hikes between Washington and Beijing amid growing trade tensions.

With Tariffs at 125%, of course Tesla would stop taking orders for US made EVs

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