Open Thread – Weekend 21 Aug 2021


The Blind Leading the Blind, Pieter Bruegel the Elder, 1568

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Dot
Dot
August 23, 2021 11:34 pm

*ikamatuasays:
August 23, 2021 at 10:10 pm
Stay in your lanes Dot.
Nude pipe smoking, home brew elderflower wines and collecting medieval codpieces.*

Cut that shit out you peasant. My lane is wherever I damned well please.

State ownership after this COVID freakout, a global leader in losing your shit mentally, is totally untenable.

You really don’t want Dan Andrews or Gladys Berejiklian in charge of….anything.

“But muh managerialism”

Which actually made America great, under Ford (not the politician) and saw wages boom.

We all know most people in management courses shouldn’t be there and the emphasis on scientific methods after years of a skill or trade isn’t what happens (but it should, of course).

The problem stems (heh) from massively subsidising public education. It has always lowered literacy levels and led to useless degrees.

“Nude pipe smoking”

I have a pipe, does Hannah Palmer want to take up smoking?

Seriously NSW Train Link…City Rail…whatever the PR dweebs are calling it now, had hundreds to thousands of staff paid they couldn’t account for, including the inscrutable sleeping celestial custodian.

*Where would government do less damage: running trains or running education and health?
I think we both know the answer to that one.*

Ahh yes…seems like a good point, but what of this climate lockdown I am a bit sceptical of even existing? What if that is ever tried on?

feelthebern
feelthebern
August 23, 2021 11:38 pm

Remember the dude sleeping in the closet at Wynyard or Town Hall for whole shifts? No manager knew him but he was on the payroll and had to clock on.

God I loved that job.

srr
srr
August 23, 2021 11:39 pm

Patriot News Network @PatriotNewsnetwrk
1m
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Senate Majority Leader dancing on camera with Colbert while we have thousands of Americans stranded behind enemy lines.

If this were Republicans…
https://gab.com/PatriotNewsnetwrk/posts/106805710196507031

srr
srr
August 23, 2021 11:46 pm

I keep seeing shows & videos of  rich & needy, anything but sound of mind people “adopting” a “fur baby” and telling the world how wonderful they are to be such great new “parents” (to what, frankly, quite often are broken mutts that will forever remain miserable and/or dangerous), and in doing so inflating the price of any sweet muttly pup well beyond the reach of the kids who really need them.

God, if only unborn babies had as many people invested in forcing others to keep them alive as ‘doggy people’ keep passing truly dangerous dogs on from one failed home to another, because, “There’s no such thing as a bad dog”, MY ARSE! … but I digress …

… Bald & Bankrupt is the only other person I’ve seen remember, “The Littlest Hobo”, (thanks again Steve trickler – https://catallaxy-files.com/open-thread-tuesday-17-august-2021/comment-page-34/#comment-34168), and it reminded me yet again that the kids who need a dog in their life the most, are now near the top of the list of those least likely to ever be “approved a fit owner”. That has to be turned around.

Meanwhile –

Steve Deace@SteveDeace
3m·
Branch Covidian Cult has now moved on to animal sacrifice.
Rescue dogs shot dead in Australia by council due to coronavirus restrictions sparks outrage: ‘Deranged COVID insanity’
https://www.theblaze.com/news/australia-council-shoot-dogs-dead-lockdowns

srr
srr
August 23, 2021 11:48 pm

srr says:
August 23, 2021 at 10:39 pm
Do you think it’s possible to start a charity for poor kids who need a dog, to get a dog, without the, “Pet ‘Adoption’ NAZIS”, getting all, “Oh, your house isn’t good enough, your life isn’t stable enough, you can’t afford all the toys (you could only dream of for yourself), or the regular vet bills (just to tell you it’s healthy), and all the other BULLSHIT WE DEMAND YOU SUPPLY & DO, so no, “NO DOG TO LOVE & LOVE YOU BACK, FOR YOU!” … or have the Borgs of Global De-Humanisation already wrapped up & cut off that once both simple & profound route to feeding an otherwise lost child’s starving spirit?

srr
srr
August 23, 2021 11:59 pm

Melbourne protest (21.08.21) recap from independent media
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65oCwbqjHVs&t=329s
Aug 23, 2021
Real Rukshan
12.4K subscribers
An analysis of the police, government and media narrative following anti-lockdown/government protests in Melbourne on 21.08.21.

According to Shane Patton, the Chief Commissioner of Victoria Police, the protest was attended mostly by young angry Victorian men with violence on their mind. Is there any truth to this statement, or is Victoria Police engaging in misinformation and propaganda?

This is my opinion and analysis based on my eye-witness reporting on the day.

FlyingPigs
FlyingPigs
August 24, 2021 12:19 am

Is it not great that our Australian Masters care for us and not think us such deplorable as American Masters think of their peasants?

If you want to know how much the Deep State hates you
https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2021/08/if_you_want_to_know_how_much_the_deep_state_hates_you.html

We Americans focus tightly on our federal elected officials. We become fanatical about our presidential candidates and scrutinize closely our senators and House members. But when it comes to the agencies that really run the government, the best we can do is contact our senators about the officials who need Senate approval. We have no say at all over the vast army of unnamed employees. Trump’s presidency, though, revealed how powerful these unelected people are…and how much they hate us. Exhibit A for today is General Michael Hayden, former director of the NSA and director of the CIA — under George W. Bush.

Hayden’s Twitter feed reveals how very deeply and profoundly this former military officer and government official hates that half (or more than half) of America that voted for Trump. He shows the same animosity we saw with Peter Strzok when he wrote his married girlfriend that he could “smell” the Trump-supporters at Walmart.

Here are some examples of what you’ll find on his feed. For one thing, if you don’t want to take a vaccine that even the MSM is conceding is potentially dangerous, he wants you out of the country and, preferably, dead:

….

Think about it: General Hayden is saying it’s an “a——” idea to protect civilians and equipment before you pull out the military (without even bothering to notify your allies). I’d expect more from someone with a prior military background.

And while Hayden is still obsessed with hating on Trump, he doesn’t have a bad word to say about Biden, the architect of the unfolding disaster in Afghanistan.

When J.D. Vance, who is running for Congress, said Americans should come first, Hayden essentially cursed his congressional chances:

But here’s the thing about Hayden: this guy is not a Democrat. He considers himself a standard-bearer of true Republicanism. He is the perfect reminder that there is a monoparty in Washington, D.C., one that ranges politically from slightly left to far left. Trump challenged that establishment, and the establishment tried to destroy him — and, with January 6 as the weapon, is trying to destroy Trump’s supporters, too.

Congress has pretty much abandoned most of its lawmaking functions. After it’s picked Americans’ pockets by demanding hugely high taxes to fund leftist projects and local boondoggles, it hands the real law-making responsibilities to the various agencies. In addition, agencies such as the DOJ, FBI, CIA, and NSA have extraordinary power over American lives. (E.g., the NSA just admitted to unmasking Tucker Carlson or the DOJ/FBI witch hunt for people who “paraded” on January 6.)

Congress, which we elect, is doing a lousy job looking out for our interests by passing the buck to people who, whether they’re Democrat or Republican, hate traditional, core American values. Hayden thinks a congressional candidate who believes in putting his own countrymen first should lose in favor of…another Tlaib? AOC? Omar? All these people would happily kick Americans to the curb.

Next year, during the primaries, make sure you let candidates know that one of the things that’s important to you is getting rid of Deep Staters who despise the American people and American values. It’s time to make it clear that, under the American constitutional system, we don’t work for them; they are civil servants who work for us.

ikamatua
August 24, 2021 12:48 am

“Dotsays:
August 23, 2021 at 11:34 pm”
..
Put the codpiece down and back away.

FlyingPigs
FlyingPigs
August 24, 2021 12:58 am

Woke American “Military leaders” outsmarted by men who have sex with goats

https://donsurber.blogspot.com/2021/08/highlights-of-news_01926593730.html

srr
srr
August 24, 2021 1:05 am

Woke American “Military leaders” outsmarted by men who have sex with goats

Yeah, I don’t think we need more elaboration to accept just how very, very bad, “woke” is.

FlyingPigs
FlyingPigs
August 24, 2021 1:11 am

I don’t think we need more elaboration to accept just how very, very bad, “woke” is.
———–
My apologies for the factual crudity in that post, srr, but yes… folk need to understand how despicable so called “leaders” really are.

FlyingPigs
FlyingPigs
August 24, 2021 1:13 am

Victorian Police present as ANTIFA.

srr
srr
August 24, 2021 1:24 am

Sorry, I was unclear.

“I don’t think we need more elaboration [than that], to [finally] accept just how very, very bad, “woke” is.

I wasn’t having a go at ‘crudity’/straight talk, but rather, supporting the case that “woke” is more self castrating than having sex with goats.

srr
srr
August 24, 2021 1:27 am

Victorian Police present as ANTIFA.

They do, don’t they. Very too bloody much so.

FlyingPigs
FlyingPigs
August 24, 2021 1:31 am

srr

ahhh… got your meaning..

thank you.

srr
srr
August 24, 2021 1:53 am

FlyingPigs, I’ve had a very long day with many things, that aren’t for public discourse, to deal with, so I’m far from sharp at the moment. Please forgive me.
Still, I look for the little things in life that make the heavy things lighter, to help us through this abominable age of a world world that doesn’t have the decency to declare itself and so call us all to be our best.
Anyway, here’s one of those little thing. I hope it make you smile –

Rumble — Kids, learn from Mister Brown. Don’t let boredom or curiosity push you down that slippery slope to degeneracy.

P.S. No Ridgeback was intoxicated in the making of this cautionary tale.

https://rumble.com/vfbpqx-rhodesian-ridgeback-mister-brown-locked-down-and-out.html?mref=5f67r&mc=7xi0y

srr
srr
August 24, 2021 2:28 am

The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #203
Published 23rd Aug

https://www.lotuseaters.com/the-podcast-of-the-lotus-eaters-203-23-08-21

Helen Dale joins Carl to discuss how Joe Biden totally f**ked up Afghanistan, the return of Trump, and Australia becoming a Covid police state.

FlyingPigs
FlyingPigs
August 24, 2021 2:41 am
FlyingPigs
FlyingPigs
August 24, 2021 2:46 am

Ridgeback

lovely dogs

FlyingPigs
FlyingPigs
August 24, 2021 2:57 am

how Joe Biden totally f**ked up Afghanistan
——————————————————————-
It is the woke, communist American Hating Globalist Communists who deliberately fucked up.

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
August 24, 2021 3:29 am

ssr and flying pigs – Ridgebacks are such beautiful dogs they’ve been our family choice for 20 yesrs -ssr are Mister Brown and the puppy your dogs? Mister Broen looks like such a sweetie

Tom
Tom
August 24, 2021 4:00 am
Tom
Tom
August 24, 2021 4:01 am
Tom
Tom
August 24, 2021 4:02 am
Tom
Tom
August 24, 2021 4:03 am
Tom
Tom
August 24, 2021 4:03 am
Tom
Tom
August 24, 2021 4:04 am
win
win
August 24, 2021 5:23 am

The Labor Premiers Totalitarian Police forces and their in your face confidence indicate they are sure of winning their elections .You can only presume that their Electeral Office has the Dominion voting machines in plaCE. Gladys knows she is toast.

will
will
August 24, 2021 6:02 am

Dilbert

experts

will
will
August 24, 2021 6:03 am
Tom
Tom
August 24, 2021 6:08 am
Tom
Tom
August 24, 2021 6:11 am
Tom
Tom
August 24, 2021 6:12 am
Tom
Tom
August 24, 2021 6:13 am
Tom
Tom
August 24, 2021 6:14 am
Tom
Tom
August 24, 2021 6:14 am
Dot
Dot
August 24, 2021 6:15 am

Shi Tzus are the best.

Tom
Tom
August 24, 2021 6:15 am
Tom
Tom
August 24, 2021 6:16 am
Tom
Tom
August 24, 2021 6:17 am
Tom
Tom
August 24, 2021 6:20 am
Diogenes
Diogenes
August 24, 2021 6:26 am

Tina Norton – wow if make the politcal toon like that ….

calli
calli
August 24, 2021 6:39 am

Stay in your lanes Dot.
Nude pipe smoking, home brew elderflower wines and collecting medieval codpieces.

Don’t get shirty, Dot. He just wanted to see if he could combine those three activities in one sentence.

9/10

Leon L
Leon L
August 24, 2021 6:39 am

Much appreciated Tom.
Steve Bright for me today.

Dot
Dot
August 24, 2021 6:40 am

*How government helps you.**

*Killing rescue dogs.
*Pepper spraying kids for not wearing a mask.
*Arresting old couples that go for a walk.
*Beating up an autistic man.
*Handcuffing and fining a 5ft tall pregnant mother for disagreeing with the government on Facebook.

The more you know***

Dot
Dot
August 24, 2021 6:41 am

I don’t get shirty. I get like a dominant bull Hippopotamus marking it’s territory.

Some call it outsider art.

calli
calli
August 24, 2021 6:46 am

Tina Norton.

Australia is hell.

That’s why they call it the Land Down Under.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
August 24, 2021 6:58 am

The ECL off Sydney today still looks iffy, but BoM did a video overnight and the graphics appear to suggest any strong winds will be brief late this afternoon:

Severe Weather Update: Low pressure system set to impact coastal NSW – 23 August 2021

But the position of the ECL could be slightly different and the winds could be pretty bad. The Daily Terror says this:

Sydney faces ‘weather bomb’ in next 48 hours

A storm approaching Australia’s east coast is worsening so rapidly that meteorologists fear it could be a very rare ‘weather bomb’.

They do like to get excitable! But that’s the way it is with ECLs, they can be real dogs or they can be pussies.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
August 24, 2021 7:10 am

Oh and for SfB if he’s lurking. The Sinny flood to be, if it happens, is again related to loopy jet streams.

Global Jet Stream Forecast

Rotate the map to Australia and you’ll see the current weather system is at the tip of a jet stream loop that comes up from 70? south and goes back down there again.

I can save the map unfortunately so it’s only current for now. I miss the CRWS jet stream site which archived maps each 6 hrs. Haven’t found any other source for archived maps – let me know please if you see one.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
August 24, 2021 7:11 am

I can’t save the map unfortunately and I can’t do degree signs either. Oh well.

Eyrie
Eyrie
August 24, 2021 7:13 am

“Last Friday, I woke up to a bad case of “floaters” in my right eye. Not too concerned; they’ll ease.
But they didn’t. Then on Sunday morning, at Bunnings, I had some “flashing lights” that weren’t there.”

Bruce in WA: The flashing lights were likely what is called “a visual migraine”.

calli
calli
August 24, 2021 7:31 am

Oh, goody! Our Aussie story has even made it to American Thinker.

Australia has gone stark raving mad.

Can’t deny it. It’s true.

duncanm
duncanm
August 24, 2021 7:38 am

According to Shane Patton, the Chief Commissioner of Victoria Police, the protest was attended mostly by young angry Victorian men with violence on their mind. Is there any truth to this statement, or is Victoria Police engaging in misinformation and propaganda?

you’ve got to love Patton’s weasel words, too. “I was briefed.. “, .. ” I was told..”.

He won’t own anything.

lotocoti
lotocoti
August 24, 2021 7:44 am

He won’t own anything.

You can’t climb the greasy pole, carrying the can.

Boambee John
Boambee John
August 24, 2021 8:01 am

Bruce in WA

Getting old sucks.

Still beats the alternative!

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
August 24, 2021 8:03 am

“I was briefed.. “, .. ” I was told..”

In all likelihood, by the same people that wanted to test their gear they’d had sitting on the shelf for three years, resulting in the abovementioned international headlines and pieces – of which the American Thinker one is particularly good.

Of course Patton, the former Armed Robbery Squad detective turned woke chameleon would front-load the media with the ‘angry men looking for trouble’ line. There’s always an element of any decent protest that does this, but Patton’s only justification now is to paint everyone that turned up on the weekend with the anarchist brush. And that’s what he did.

Having viewed some additional footage of that event over the weekend in Melbourne, and also having spoken to people on both sides of the giant punch on, I would like – if I may – to add to my earlier views.

It’s not a 180. It’s a tweak. I remain as critical of VicJack Inc as I was.

First, the ratbag rentacrowd anarchist element was still there, and still took advantage of the stupid tactics used by the jacks, and the righteous cause of the protesters.

But the OC spray paintball rounds are a defensive option, or are supposed to be. You do NOT use it as an opening gambit, particularly when advancing on crowds in the first instance. And if you close in on crowds from two directions without offering them an escape route, of course they’re going to fight you.

VicJack Inc have achieved the following:
1. An invaluable opportunity for the anarchists to test and refine their tactics;
2. The scorn of accomplished commentators across the globe, and that’s on top of the cartoonists (see Norton, courtesy of Tom, earlier);
3. The complete loss of any remaining social licence to provide a policing service (by consent, remember) to Victorian society.

Also, it’s worth remembering that their activity on the weekend should sit on the pool room mantelpiece with their other coup, that being the wholesale removal of toddlers from playgrounds.

Apologies for the drive-by. The hot dog stand calls.

Fair Shake
Fair Shake
August 24, 2021 8:12 am

‘You need them to nail their trousers to the mast. …
That way they can’t climb down.’
Yes Minister

I’m new to this site. Smells like wet paint ? but i like the clean look to it.
Lockdown Day 205 in Melbourne. We’ve given away the spring sports events. We were cooked last year. Now we are just a dried out carbonised carcass state still on the grill. There’s more cooking to be done.

On a positive note the suns out.

Cassie of Sydney
August 24, 2021 8:14 am

“Knuckle Draggersays:
August 24, 2021 at 8:03 am”

KD…hope all is well with you at this difficult time.

Zipster
Zipster
August 24, 2021 8:31 am

On a forum my wife is on, several women have been banned for a month by facebook for saying that they did not want the vaccine as they thought it might be dangerous.

Another person she knows claims that she knows the parents of a kid that died following the homebush mass child vaccination and that they have lawyered up.

I can’t find anything in the news about any adverse events from the homebush mass vaccination or about the 450+ that have died post vaccination. The only report about homebush is people not being able to get in. The only place where the deaths at homebush are mentioned is bitchute. There is not even a rebuttal in the MSM.

Nowhere does media mention the death rate percentage. of 18k cases in nsw there are 130 deaths. Less than 1% fatality rate. not clear which died from covid or with covid. There would be substantially more than 18k infections. Nor is it clear of the 450+ deaths post vaccination how many were pushed over the edge by the “vaccine”. Given the vaccine and covid inflict damage with the same spike protein this must be investigated.

what the fuck is going on? we seem to be in full Pravda mode.

Shy Ted
Shy Ted
August 24, 2021 8:39 am

I started a backyard sanctuary for small lapdogs. People could come and look at them and pet them. Only had 1 lapdog in the end. It was a shit zoo.
Sorry
Toon as compensation

Top Ender
Top Ender
August 24, 2021 8:42 am

Meet Sleepy Joe and Kamala – the Lord and Lady Gaga of politics
By RICHARD LITTLEJOHN FOR THE DAILY MAIL

Not for the first time, Joe Biden was late for his own press conference. Before he got round to Afghanistan, he wanted to deliver an update on his administration’s response to Tropical Storm Henri, which had earlier made landfall in Rhode Island.

The President had just been briefed by the head of the Federal Emergency Management Agency, FEMA. ‘I can’t think of anyone better to lead this operation than, er, um, er . . . ’ he mumbled, as he hastily consulted his notes.

Biden couldn’t even remember the name of the woman in charge of FEMA, someone he had been speaking to just a couple of minutes earlier. Not only that, she was sitting in front of him.

Millions of television viewers saw Sleepy Joe experience yet another embarrassing senior moment.

This latest lapse of memory was reminiscent of the scene during a presidential visit to a Michigan farm shop recently. The female assistant behind the ice cream counter asked him a fairly straightforward question about Russian cyber hacking.

A baffled Biden had to reach into his jacket pocket and fish out a fistful of cue cards before he could read his answer.

While conservative news outlets such as Fox made fun of the President, the overwhelmingly pro-Democrat mainstream media gave him a free pass.

But now, as I wrote here last Tuesday, even the patience of anti-Trump TV channels and newspapers has evaporated.

Since the fall of Kabul, Biden has come under attack from both sides of the political divide. His fitness for office is being openly questioned.

It’s not only card-carrying Republicans calling for his resignation, although there are plenty of them around right now. Perhaps the most prominent, and best qualified, is Texas congressman Ronny Jackson.

A retired U.S. Navy rear admiral, Jackson was appointed to the White House medical unit by George W. Bush and served as official physician to Presidents Barack Obama and Donald Trump.

Back in October last year, during the presidential election campaign, Jackson stated publicly about Biden: ‘I am concerned that he does not have the mental capacity, the cognitive ability, to serve as our commander-in-chief and head of state.’

After Biden’s initial bumbling response to the Taliban takeover, Jackson tweeted: ‘If he’s not mentally capable of handling this crisis, he needs to resign IMMEDIATELY.’

Fourteen Republican members of Congress have written an open letter demanding that Biden takes a formal cognitive ability test, which Trump passed in 2018 after the Democrats accused him of senility.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-9920205/RICHARD-LITTLEJOHN-Meet-Sleepy-Joe-Kamala-Lord-Lady-Gaga-politics.html

Cassie of Sydney
August 24, 2021 8:45 am

“what the fuck is going on? we seem to be in full Pravda mode.”

I think there was more truth in Pravda.

calli
calli
August 24, 2021 9:00 am

But now, as I wrote here last Tuesday, even the patience of anti-Trump TV channels and newspapers has evaporated.

Since the fall of Kabul, Biden has come under attack from both sides of the political divide. His fitness for office is being openly questioned

That’s the thing that sh*ts me the most about conservatives.

“Patience”? No. It was and is and will be full throated support for this imbecile and denigration of his predecessor.

The reason for their “tutt-tutting” is the inescapable vision of the horrors of Kabul. It took the on-screen deaths of American supporters for them to supposedly lose patience? Wait till the Talis upload a series of Americans in chains and/or beheaded or whatever other hideous death awaits them.

We’ll go from impatience to quite miffed? Or maybe very concerned?

Bruce in WA
August 24, 2021 9:05 am

Eyrie says:

Bruce in WA: The flashing lights were likely what is called “a visual migraine”.

Thanks, Eyrie. The ophthalmologist said one incident wasn’t a concern; more than one could be.

So far, so good. 😀

Boambee John
Boambee John
August 24, 2021 9:12 am

Cassie of Sydneysays:
August 24, 2021 at 8:45 am
“what the fuck is going on? we seem to be in full Pravda mode.”

I think there was more truth in Pravda.

And more news in Izvestia.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
August 24, 2021 9:18 am

Bruce in WA: The flashing lights were likely what is called “a visual migraine”.

I had a similar experience a few years ago. In my case, the flashes occurred only when I moved my head sharply.

My diagnosis was a localised tear in the retina – hence the floaters, which are detached cells from the back of the eye.

It resolved itself and the floaters eventually disappeared – but my bungee jumping days are over.

John Brumble
John Brumble
August 24, 2021 9:20 am

I went to a zoo the other week. Not a good experience. They only had one animal; it was a dog.

It was a Shih Tzu.

Eyrie
Eyrie
August 24, 2021 9:20 am

BoN, it has been well known for decades at least that there are periods of several years when the general east west wind flows in middle latitudes goes more north south resulting in weather extremes and other periods of years where it is more east west and the weather is less variable.
Only now are we coming to understand why this might be so.

Goanna
Goanna
August 24, 2021 9:21 am

Zelenko’s $10 treatment stops ALL variants.
‘ .. it undermines the fear and isolation narrative and allows people to return to normal living without the codependency on global sociopaths.’

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
August 24, 2021 9:22 am

Biden is much better on military deployment around the Capitol where he has maintained an armed presence to fend off people with placards.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
August 24, 2021 9:28 am

‘We can’t stay in the cave’: PM hits back at state opposition to COVID-normal

Mr Morrison is facing increasing opposition from state premiers, particularly Western Australian leader Mark McGowan and Queensland Premier Annastacia Palaszczuk, who have expressed concerns the situation has changed since Australia’s roadmap out of COVID-19 was agreed to at National Cabinet.

Apparently anything agreed at National Cabinet has no permanent substance – a bit like dealing with toddlers, or the Taliban.

The Munni Fountain aside, Australia has ceased to function as a unitary state. The experiment lasted 120 years.

Eyrie
Eyrie
August 24, 2021 9:34 am

“Australia has ceased to function as a unitary state”

I’d call it a failed State. Unable to perform the proper functions of government in a liberal democracy.

feelthebern
feelthebern
August 24, 2021 9:36 am

Gladys has been leaking to selected journos.
In NSW, if hairdresser/barber fully vaccinated & customer is fully vaccinated the CMO will decree the science allows you to have a hair cut.
What the actual fuck.

Steve from Brisbane
Steve from Brisbane
August 24, 2021 9:36 am

Washington Post is saying 37,000 have now been airlifted out of Afghanistan. The figure is probably over 40,000 by now, and still at least a week to go.

I wonder if Biden has announced 5 or 6 weeks ago, whenever it was, that “we all know the government is going to collapse and run away within days – not weeks or months – of our leaving, and don’t we don’t expect the Afghan military to fight, so we’re starting the airlift now” there would have been scenes of calmness at the airport. I have my doubts.

rickw
rickw
August 24, 2021 9:39 am

I’d call it a failed State. Unable to perform the proper functions of government in a liberal democracy.

Scumo fell asleep at the wheel and the other mongs grabbed the wheel. It’s now firmly wrapped around a roadside gumtree.

rickw
rickw
August 24, 2021 9:42 am

Another person she knows claims that she knows the parents of a kid that died following the homebush mass child vaccination and that they have lawyered up.

Who in their right mind would allow their child to be sent to this? Only scared sheep.

feelthebern
feelthebern
August 24, 2021 9:46 am

Sydney is ground zero for this dystopian future.
Everyone cheering it on too.
8 billion plus on the planet.
And I’m in this god forsaken shit hole.

calli
calli
August 24, 2021 9:48 am

Great video, John H.

Bruce of Newcastle has a rival!

Woolfe
Woolfe
August 24, 2021 9:50 am
Steve from Brisbane
Steve from Brisbane
August 24, 2021 9:51 am

I also note that dover beach claimed yesterday on a poll that Biden was politically dead, because he was at (I think) 50% approval rating in one poll (which he also claimed, with no evidence whatsoever, must have a huge Democrat bias.)

The Gallup Poll has it at 49%. It also notes Trump’s approval at August in his first year was 36%.

Get back to me when Biden slips another 15%, then I’ll worry.

rickw
rickw
August 24, 2021 9:53 am

Monty cackling on Discord Cats about Andy Ngo being assaulted and taken to hospital.

Make no mistake, Munty is a POS. I can’t believe that people posted on his cat alternative.

feelthebern
feelthebern
August 24, 2021 9:57 am

Met coal $US230/t.
Iron ore $US136/t.
What a time to be alive.

Steve from Brisbane
Steve from Brisbane
August 24, 2021 10:00 am

And in climate change and flash flooding: yes, at least one group of researchers believe the devastating German/Belgium flash floods were very likely climate change related:

The record-shattering rainfall that caused deadly flooding across Germany and Belgium in July was made up to nine times more likely by the climate crisis, according to research.

The study also showed that human-caused global heating has made downpours in the region up to 20% heavier. The work reinforces the findings of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change’s landmark report this month that there is “unequivocal” evidence that greenhouse gas emissions from human activities are the main cause of worsening extreme weather.

In recent months there has been devastating flooding in western Europe and China, extreme heatwaves in north-west America and forest fires in Russia, Greece, Turkey and the US.

Who should I believe, a retired chemist in Newscastle who won’t publish his devastatingly obvious proof that everything that’s happening is just natural, an angry ant lawyer from the same area who cherry picks with the best of them and ignores studies showing clear increases in hourly precipitation rates; or thousands of scientists who actually work on climate and the scenes on TV of flash floods from all over the globe?

It’s a real head scratcher, who I should trust.

Speedbox
August 24, 2021 10:02 am

Morrison lost control of the National Cabinet. Call it tail wagging the dog or whatever you like, but the Premiers jumped at the opportunity to strut the national stage like never before. Social media and the MSM were willing collaborators.

Innumerable times I have asked: who advises these people? Wasn’t there even one in Morrison’s coterie of advisers who flagged that this could easily go bad. Perhaps some over-riding federal legislation firstly? The national government must maintain control – if nothing else, the people will look to the PM for ‘measured guidance’ from a national perspective. The feds will set the tone for the nation so rogue state actions can be called out and may even be illegal under prevailing federal legislation.

Nup. Instead, let’s jump in without any legislative framework and create a hotchpotch of competing interests that will undermine the national interest. Better yet, the federal government will pick up the tab every time the states go into lockdown. We can trust the states to do the right thing, after all, were all in this together.

Arky
August 24, 2021 10:03 am

Bloody hell.
Someone’s stuck in 1998.
Climate bullshit.
Puh-lease.

John H.
John H.
August 24, 2021 10:07 am

callisays:
August 24, 2021 at 9:48 am
Great video, John H.

Bruce of Newcastle has a rival!

Thanks Calli. I hope Bruce sees it because it is a wonderful story.

Steve from Brisbane
Steve from Brisbane
August 24, 2021 10:08 am

If it makes you feel better, Arky, I consider it a good thing you’re out of the education system, and making fart joke videos for a living instead now.

Boambee John
Boambee John
August 24, 2021 10:11 am

Dr F

Apparently anything agreed at National Cabinet has no permanent substance – a bit like dealing with toddlers, or the Taliban.

If the state members won’t stick to what they agree, then it is time to disband the so-called “National Cabinet”.

Crossie
Crossie
August 24, 2021 10:14 am

These lockdowns and the police actions are killing our tourist industry as we speak. When it’s all over and the borders are open again who is going to come here from overseas after watching on their news what our governments are capable of?

Boambee John
Boambee John
August 24, 2021 10:15 am

Woolfesays:
August 24, 2021 at 9:50 am
Monty cackling on Discord Cats about Andy Ngo being assaulted and taken to hospital.

The fat fascist fool has always been keen on political violence directed against those whose political views differ from his (defined by him as “fascists”), but is too gutless to dispense the violence himself. He relies on the Blackshirts of “Ante-fa” to do his dirty work.

Speedbox
August 24, 2021 10:16 am

Boambee John says:
August 24, 2021 at 10:11 am

If the state members won’t stick to what they agree, then it is time to disband the so-called “National Cabinet”.

Too late. The states will just continue. They have been given the reins and will not readily relinquish. Ever.

Mater
August 24, 2021 10:18 am

Morrison lost control of the National Cabinet. Call it tail wagging the dog or whatever you like, but the Premiers jumped at the opportunity to strut the national stage like never before.

Mrs Mater was pondering this exact point this morning.
Dare I say that the point at which the PM says we should be free, and the Premiers continue to lock us down, an ‘inflection’ will result.

Protests will erupt like never before. They’ll have the perceived legitimacy of the Federal government, against overbearing State directives. If Dan (and his henchmen) think they had a hard time on Saturday, watch what that bit of legitimacy does for the protesters…and their numbers.

We will live through interesting times.

Boambee John
Boambee John
August 24, 2021 10:22 am

at least one group of researchers believe the devastating German/Belgium flash floods were very likely climate change related:

Stevie still pursuing the “climate change” mirage.

Stevie, there is always “at least one group of researchers [who] believe the devastating German/Belgium flash floods were very likely climate change related”. Indeed such groups will also believe that anything is “very likely related to climate change”.

Have you told Tim “the rain that falls will not fill the dams” Flummery about this group of heretics who dare to challenge him by suggesting increased rainfall?

PS, the climate has been changing for millions of years, and will continue to do so, regardless of the prognostications of climate “scientists”. The key questions, never addressed except in models, are, first, the extent and scale of anthropogenic influence, and second, the extent to which the change will be catastrophic. So far, the changes have been nett beneficial.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
August 24, 2021 10:22 am

Who should I believe, a retired chemist in Newscastle who won’t publish his devastatingly obvious proof that everything that’s happening is just natural

I did SfB.

Here’s the proof that nothing much is happening. That is the official satellite data from Rutgers to which I added a regression line, link is below the graph.

You have to understand the graph to comprehend my point. I doubt are able to do that.

I should update it – the data to 2021 is much the same, a flat regression line could go back close to 30 years. Other similar indicators like the AMO are likewise, because the AMO is a ~60 year cycle and has been on its high plateau for about 20 years now. When it turns it turns rapidly though.

feelthebern
feelthebern
August 24, 2021 10:24 am

Oh my.
Some of the pieces of kit left at Bagram airbase?
A couple of flight simulators.
Seriously.

Top Ender
Top Ender
August 24, 2021 10:26 am

PM: premiers, Albo block our path out

DENNIS SHANAHAN – The Australian

After six months of Anthony Albanese attacking Scott Morrison over a delayed vaccine rollout and the premiers blaming him for a lack of vaccines, the Prime Minister has hit back at both and emerged as the crusader for ending lockdowns and reopening the economy.

Morrison has challenged the premiers and Labor to support targets of 70 and 80 per cent for the reopening of borders, easing of social restrictions and freedom of business, and to accept that we “need to learn to live with the virus, not live in fear of it”.

After the Opposition Leader’s damaging attacks for the delayed vaccine rollout, criticism from both extremes about liberty and freedom and facing blameshifting from the premiers for outbreaks, Morrison is seizing the relative recent success of vaccinations accelerating by the million and the proximity of actually reaching target vaccination levels of 70 and 80 per cent to launch his own campaign.

It is a pivotal political moment for the Morrison government and the fate of the national economy.

Morrison wants to emerge as the champion of opening up lives and the economy as the pall of the pandemic dulls the national psyche and depresses business.

Reopening is the goal, the dawn and the hope that Morrison is using as a new springboard to restart the Covid-19 health and political narratives and regain leadership momentum.

While the Prime Minister did not name any premiers as his targets – and specifically included the Opposition Leader

– the states inclined to hotbutton border closures have reacted already and shown they consider themselves on the other side of the reopening argument.

As Albanese sided with the premiers about continuing to use daily Covid case numbers as a guide to continuing lockdowns, Morrison accused him of undermining the efforts to fight the pandemic and seeking to keep the economy shut.

Morrison declares that the premiers have struck a deal, they must stick to it, the equation on reopening society has changed because of vaccination levels and that he is determined to fight for the end of lockdowns.

“The national plan we have developed and agreed is our pathway to living with this virus. That is our goal, to live with this virus, not to live in fear of it. It is a plan based on the best possible scientific, medical and economic advice,” he said on Monday as he called on the public to back him and support the phased reopening nationally.

Josh Frydenberg warned in parliament that easing restrictions at the recommended targets would not mean the end of Covid cases, hospitalisations or indeed “tragic deaths”, but the Treasurer, who has warned the commonwealth can’t fund relief for states forever, said we could not continue living as we are.

Vaccine supply, slow take-up and poor messaging have ensured plenty of criticism for Morrison, and damage to his personal standing, but the super surge of vaccinations, the clear Doherty Institute guidelines, the positive experience in Britain and the crying need for some return to normality have given the Prime Minister a cause to fight for, which is backed by medical advice, will be attractive to all groups and frames Albanese as negative and against reopening the economy.

Just as additional vaccines changed the momentum of the public debate, so too has the pace of vaccination and having a goal in sight.

Fat Tony
Fat Tony
August 24, 2021 10:30 am

rickw says:
August 24, 2021 at 9:42 am
Another person she knows claims that she knows the parents of a kid that died following the homebush mass child vaccination and that they have lawyered up.

Who in their right mind would allow their child to be sent to this? Only scared sheep.

Not sure but I heard that the kids could not sit their HSC exams (grade 12) if they hadn’t been “vaccinated”.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
August 24, 2021 10:30 am

Thanks for the video Steve, it was fun! I’m not a licensed wildlife carer since I realized a long time ago I’m not good at it. Also I don’t like the licensing bit, but I can see why they have to keep some control what with wildlife smugglers and the like.

About a week ago I was walking in the local reserve, which is pretty much a bare field of grass that the council mows from time to time. A lady was there on hands and knees with a bag, she was harvesting fresh grass. So I asked her “what for?” She was from the Hunter Wildlife Rescue and said she had 9 joeys to look after. We had a nice short chat, but she said she had to get back to it because she had feeding time in a half hour. It’s nice that some people do such things, like the magpie lady and the joey lady.

cohenite
August 24, 2021 10:39 am

Thanks Tom; the yanks always good. Has Leak been banned after the APC made a finding against him?

I thought this was the pick of this morning’s batch:

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Mother Lode
Mother Lode
August 24, 2021 10:43 am

These lockdowns and the police actions are killing our tourist industry as we speak.

Yup. This is what Australia is going to be known for.

The rugged individuals, the laconic, stoic, sun-bronzed rogues are gone.

Petty people ruled (not governed) by petty tyrants, all shaking from petty terrors and fussing about their petty ambitions is what we are now.

I am glad the rest of the world is waking up to this. I always felt a bit guilty that they were buying into a dead myth.

Speedbox
August 24, 2021 10:43 am

Mater says:
August 24, 2021 at 10:18 am

Mrs Mater was pondering this exact point this morning. Dare I say that the point at which the PM says we should be free, and the Premiers continue to lock us down, an ‘inflection’ will result. Protests will erupt like never before. They’ll have the perceived legitimacy of the Federal government, against overbearing State directives.

I think Mrs Mater is correct. In particular, They’ll have the perceived legitimacy of the Federal government but even so, I think Morrison is toast electorally. But ultimately, the creation of the National Cabinet was highly ill-considered and now its like a rabid dog. There is only one way to deal with such an animal.

We have all seen Palacechook and McGowan saying that 80% vaccination may not be enough – pure politics.

Boambee John
Boambee John
August 24, 2021 10:44 am

Who should I believe, a retired chemist in Newscastle who won’t publish his devastatingly obvious proof that everything that’s happening is just natural, an angry ant lawyer from the same area who cherry picks with the best of them and ignores studies showing clear increases in hourly precipitation rates; or thousands of scientists who actually work on climate and the scenes on TV of flash floods from all over the globe?

Good old Stevie, still in thrall to the so-called “experts”, who have an unbroken record of failure in their “predictions/forecasts” over more than 30 years. You would think that even the densest fool would start to wonder, when not only the climate “experts”, but also the epidemiological “experts” have demonstrated the utter failure of modeling. But let me fix his question for him:

“Who should I believe, a retired chemist in Newcastle whose professional future doesn’t depend on there being a climate “crisis”, or thousands of scientists whose professional reputations and future professional careers depend on the existence of such a “crisis”? The latter having failed spectacularly in every attempt they make to demonstrate empirically the truth of their beliefs.”

Speedbox
August 24, 2021 10:45 am

Hmmm. Still getting the hang of formatting on this site.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
August 24, 2021 10:45 am

Cohenite – Spooner does Mondays and school hols, Leak does Tues-Sat. Leak has a young family so it’s a good arrangement.

rickw
rickw
August 24, 2021 10:46 am

Not sure but I heard that the kids could not sit their HSC exams (grade 12) if they hadn’t been “vaccinated”.

Disgusting, two tiered society. I would be taking them to court over that, rather than the death of my child.

Dot
Dot
August 24, 2021 10:47 am

One flash flood (in a valley prone to flooding) proves catastrophic global warming and Biden has handled Afghanistan supremely…

Yep, all true.

Shut ins believe anything.

Eyrie
Eyrie
August 24, 2021 10:48 am

“Bloody hell.
Someone’s stuck in 1998.
Climate bullshit.
Puh-lease.”

It’s only Shitfer, Arky. No brains, no consequence. Nothing unusual going on in climate.
Decades from now people will be discussing the “crazy years” around the turn of the century. How entire societies lost their collective minds over minor things.

Dot
Dot
August 24, 2021 10:48 am

Steve,

Just shut up you poor bum.

Cointegration of the data proves AGW is at worst, half a degree of warming from CO2 forcing.

Do you understand cointegration?

No?

Cassie of Sydney
August 24, 2021 10:51 am

“We have all seen Palacechook and McGowan saying that 80% vaccination may not be enough – pure politics.”

I suspect the Labor premiers are working with Federal Labor…and once Albo is elected all closed borders will be reopened….like magic!

Morrison has only himself to blame for this.

cohenite
August 24, 2021 10:53 am

Fuck you shit for brains, I’m not angry.

From your ‘paper’:

Extreme value modeling was performed to estimate how the 2, 10 and 100 year precipitation events have changed. A statistically significant increase could only be claimed for two sites for the 2 year return period precipitation event. However, the mean estimates of the 100 year return period precipitation events at five of the eight stations from 1987 to 2014 exceeded the 90% confidence intervals of the 100 year return period precipitation events from 1958 to 1985, while little change was observed at the other three sites.

That’s as fine a word salad as you’ll see.

As opposed to the BOM who in the case of rainfall (unlike their temperature modelling) just measure what falls in what time; for everyone’s edification I link again to the BOM records:

http://reg.bom.gov.au/cgi-bin/climate/change/extremes/timeseries.cgi?graph=R_30&ave_yr=A

The alarmists are liars, scientific liars but liars none the less: they change facts by modelling and homogenisation to suit the narrative. Their lies have literally cost the world economy $trillions. Anyone would think they were working for biden, pelosi etc.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
August 24, 2021 10:54 am

Since the fall of Kabul, Biden has come under attack from both sides of the political divide. His fitness for office is being openly questioned.

His not being fit was obvious during the campaign. The people (well, the living citizens) who nevertheless voted for him and the worthless MSM can hardly pretend to have come to a new insight.

That it took them another year to see what everyone else already knew shows that they are the problem and Joe should never have been elected.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
August 24, 2021 10:55 am

BJ – I’m surprised SfB is doing climate shtick. When he was allowed on the Cat in a previous era he was hammered flat by science so often he eventually shut up about it, as did M0nty and Numbers. Why he has stuck his head up again to spout this rubbish I don’t know, but I’m quite happy to hammer him flat again, since the data and the science is quite clear, and not on the side of the thermageddonists.

It’d be nice if Dover could change the link limit to about five though. Only having a single link to work with makes backing a scientific argument difficult.

I’ll add this, just for fun:

11 For this reason God sends them a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie 12 and so that all will be condemned who have not believed the truth but have delighted in wickedness.

2 Thess 2:11-12

Zipster
Zipster
August 24, 2021 10:59 am

I suspect the Labor premiers are working with Federal Labor…and once Albo is elected all closed borders will be reopened….like magic!

Trust a commie at your own peril. These rats are only interested in power.

Tom
Tom
August 24, 2021 11:01 am

Americans simply can’t believe what’s going on Down Under. The collapse of Australian freedom at the hands of the brutal neo-fascists in charge takes a starring role in today’s edition of Tucker Carlson Tonight.

Dot
Dot
August 24, 2021 11:04 am

Climate alarmists, pick one:

**Flash floods prove catastrophic AGW.

OR

It will never flood again and dams will never refill.**

You have chosen both; and consistently so. Both are wrong, both at the same time is impossible.

Dot
Dot
August 24, 2021 11:05 am

LOL

We should get kicked out of Five Eyes, if it means anything anymore.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
August 24, 2021 11:07 am

Maybe it takes more than 250 years to get out of a penal colony mindset.
Scratch a Karen, find a Rum Corps thug underneath.

rickw
rickw
August 24, 2021 11:07 am

Americans simply can’t believe what’s going on Down Under.

Glad they’re holding up the mirror.

From my perspective what’s going on is not surprising, Australian’s answer to most issues is “there oughta be a law”.

As I’m completely ignoring this shit I’m somewhat on the outside looking in. There is a strange satisfaction to seeing the people who whole heartedly supported confiscation of my private property getting completely rooted by big government.

Arky
August 24, 2021 11:07 am

Steve from Brisbanesays:
August 24, 2021 at 10:08 am
If it makes you feel better, Arky, I consider it a good thing you’re out of the education system, and making fart joke videos for a living instead now.

..
Me too dickhead. Given the imminent complete collapse of said system, if I decide to continue teaching the only possible way to do so effectively (I know careerist shits like you couldn’t give a toss about the actual effect your “work” has) is in whatever system soon replaces this thing that is so obviously not fit for purpose. Australian children are at least three years behind their peers in the region. Given an alternative, parents would flee this disaster en masse.

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
August 24, 2021 11:11 am

I can’t find anything in the news about any adverse events from the homebush mass vaccination or about the 450+ that have died post vaccination.

Simple solution.
One of our brave investigative reporters from the MSM asks Gladys to refute the statistic.
Publically.
Live, at the 11am doom conference.
And keeps doing so until she answers.

Dot
Dot
August 24, 2021 11:11 am

Arky you could become a homeschooling-learning web-thought leader/guide bajillionare.

Teachers like Eddie Woo need megabucks. Crap teachers need to be on the dole.

rickw
rickw
August 24, 2021 11:11 am

Australian children are at least three years behind their peers in the region.

That’s what I keep reminding my kids when they come home with a great test score.

The USSR would be bloody embarrassed at the standard of education delivered by our communists.

rickw
rickw
August 24, 2021 11:14 am

One of our brave investigative reporters from the MSM asks Gladys to refute the statistic.
Publically.
Live, at the 11am doom conference.
And keeps doing so until she answers.

The question will never be asked. These children are expendable in pursuit of the farcical war against covid.

Steve from Brisbane
Steve from Brisbane
August 24, 2021 11:17 am

As is obvious to everyone, cohenite: flash floods can occur within hours of intense rainfall causing drainage built (or naturally evolved) to deal with past levels of intense rainfall to be overwhelmed.

Putting up graphs of rainfall defined by days may well hide the increasing intensity of rainfall, which needs to be measured by hours.

Similarly, Bruce can put up as many graphs of snowfall extent at he likes – because it is obvious, to anyone who isn’t just into cherry picking, that temperatures can rise substantially in summer, and even winter, and make no big difference to snow cover averaged out. In finer detail examination, though, there are some changes to extent of snow cover seasonally in different parts of the world, and no serious scientists think Bruce’s graphs disproves the extent of current climate change, for the simple reason that they don’t.

Arky
August 24, 2021 11:18 am

Dotsays:
August 24, 2021 at 11:11 am
Arky you could become a homeschooling-learning web-thought leader/guide bajillionare.

..
Already years behind their peers in other countries, can you imagine where our students are at after the last two years of complete and utter chaos?
Add to that parents getting to see the actual content of the shit being peddled.
You are about to see what happens to a system when participants realise it is broken beyond repair.

Dot
Dot
August 24, 2021 11:20 am

I reckon homeschooling or at least small private schools will become popular. Maybe some rage at the ballot box.

The best we can hope for is electoral destruction of the four establishment parties.

Dot
Dot
August 24, 2021 11:22 am

Steve – do you believe in perma-drought or a local rain event proving a global phenomena?

As they used to say, GO!!!

Winston Smith
August 24, 2021 11:22 am

Salvatore:

Remember how policing was delivered through a system that was run by police?
Isn’t Reichsfuhrer Fuller a beat cop who worked his way up?

I’ll grant you that exception – the normal route through the ranks of any profession saw trash like that out on his ear, but this is what credentialism and entryism have delivered – a corrupted promotion process.

Boambee John
Boambee John
August 24, 2021 11:23 am

This was posted by Mother Lode on Mater’s Musings #9, but should also appear here, not for the education of Stevie Boy, who is beyond it, but for the benefit of lurkers.

Economic models that keep failing.

Climate models that feed on countless inputs to the nth degree of precision to output no results that match the real world other than ‘The last 3 decades have got warmer. A bit. Overall. We think.’

Now it is the epidemic modellers.

Scheisse.

I begin to think these modellers are not really prognosticators of any sort.

They are more like science fiction writers or futurists (although the former are the more honest). They imagine a future that serves as a metaphor for contemporary issues. That is why people are interested. If you wrote an account of the current age and sent it back in time 100 years they would probably not read it. Computers would not make much sense – they would appear as some deus ex machina to leap from one point in the narrative to another. The obsession with diversity absurd. The desire to lower living standards for climate absolutely ridiculous.

More importantly the story would not address issues of their time.

So all these modellers just keep churning out predictions that preach the current fixations. We hear that vegetarianism is necessary to save the planet from Climageddon. Diversity will create innovation. The ongoing fractal divergence of ‘genders’ will make us all ‘whole’.

Spiteful talentless spivs resentful of the fact they have no literary talent

Steve from Brisbane
Steve from Brisbane
August 24, 2021 11:24 am

Arky wrote re the education system:

Given the imminent complete collapse of said system, if I decide to continue teaching the only possible way to do so effectively (I know careerist shits like you couldn’t give a toss about the actual effect your “work” has) is in whatever system soon replaces this thing that is so obviously not fit for purpose.

Oh bullshit. I reckon education is prone to fads and fashions, not all of which I like either, but it’s just absolute Arky style catastrophising to crap on about how it’s all going to collapse and planes will start falling of the skies, or whatever other bullshit you reckon is a result of you not liking being around teachers who vote Labor.

Arky
August 24, 2021 11:27 am

When I had regular classes, I was painfully aware that for some of my students, the only positive interaction they were going to have that day was whatever I had time in a 55 minute lesson hared with 25 other students to give them.
Some of those families weren’t broken, they were pulverised.
That the scum who run this state have condemned those kids to being locked down in those situations 22 hours a day is fucked beyond all recognition.

Arky
August 24, 2021 11:29 am

Steve from Brisbanesays:
August 24, 2021 at 11:24 am

..
Fuck off idiot.

Boambee John
Boambee John
August 24, 2021 11:29 am

As is obvious to everyone, cohenite: flash floods can occur within hours of intense rainfall causing drainage built (or naturally evolved) to deal with past levels of intense rainfall to be overwhelmed.

Your “sources” might not have noticed Stevie Boy, but some of those areas recently flooded in Europe have the quaint habit of marking flood levels on buildings. The recent events, even with more infrastructure to affect drainage, didn’t make the mark as the “highest eva”.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
August 24, 2021 11:30 am

SfB – You aren’t at all scientific are you.

Snow coverage anomaly is effectively the snowline. It is the 0 C isotherm. The graph I gave you is a 12 month running average: pretty much that means if it is at or below zero Celsius it will have snow on it in any 12 month period. Therefore it removes variability from precipitation.

The snow line on average hasn’t moved for a quarter century. In that time pCO2 has risen 10% absolute and 30% relative to the preindustrial baseline. Yet it has not changed the snowline position.

Snow cover is easy to measure via satellite. You just take a sat pic and count the white pixels. No adjustments are necessary.

I just get the data and tell people about it and what it means. I couldn’t give a stuff whether you go around screeching “the sky is falling, the sky is falling!” If that’s what you like doing, well have fun doing it is all I can say. But thermageddon ain’t happening, that’s what the data is saying. And as I’ve linked for you before the temperature rise last century is consistent with natural forcings. Which the thermageddonists ignore. Believe the lies all you want, they’re still lies son.

I love lefties, they can quite easily believe 6 impossible things before breakfast.

Steve from Brisbane
Steve from Brisbane
August 24, 2021 11:33 am

To dot, and others who quote Flannery: you’ve thrilled for years over being able to cherry pick a statement he made without nuance and claim that it just proves climate science is all wrong. It’s ridiculous, and dumb, to base (or bolster) a whole faith of disbelief of a field of science research lasting decades based on one statement by a climate change populariser which (within a broader context) was not even as bad as you think it was.

I also think it hilarious when I say you’re just basing your climate change denial on your culture war faith – and Bruce comes along and puts up graphs that prove nothing, and then quotes God in support.

Boambee John
Boambee John
August 24, 2021 11:40 am

In finer detail examination, though, there are some changes to extent of snow cover seasonally in different parts of the world

I’m sure it was an oversight Stevie, but you “forgot” to put up your source for this statement, and the evidence that these “finer details” are, first, potentially catastrophic, and second, that they are anthropogenic.

Arky
August 24, 2021 11:41 am

Steve from Brisbane

..
Seriously, you are probably the dumbest shit to have posted on any cat blog.
I think you may even be stupider that numberwang Bob.
An achievement of sorts.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
August 24, 2021 11:44 am

I love SfB’s unsupported claim that the graphs I put up prove nothing. Does that mean the climateers’ graphs prove nothing too?

Maybe you could show me where my argument is wrong? That would be the scientific response, rather than just spouting.

Take your time son. Perhaps you could get an actual climate scientist to come and answer for you? I think taking highly paid government climate scientists apart is excellent fun.

Boambee John
Boambee John
August 24, 2021 11:45 am

Stevie

whole faith of disbelief of a field of science research lasting decades based on one statement by a climate change populariser

So, when are the “real” climate scientists going to disown Flummery? And when are they going to defend the reputation of their specialisation by disowning “Upside Down ” Mann? And the “hide the decline” artists from East Anglia?

Or are those examples really the mainstream of climate “science”?

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
August 24, 2021 11:46 am

This is why it is important to hear what the other guy us saying.

It is nothing new that Dubya is depicted as a war criminal. That is old hat.

The sainted Obama just comments that he is retired.

But what is interesting with the Trump one is not the claim that he took all his cues from cable TV (surely code for Fox since CNN, MSNBC etc provided different cues Trump ignored) but the claim he did nothing about Afghanistan. Well, he did not expand operations there, which might be why there were no dead soldiers in the last.

The kudos for at least wanting to get out is instead gifted to Biden, who is dishonestly depicted as capable of coherent speech.

Dot
Dot
August 24, 2021 11:46 am

Without nuance?

Well duh.

It was like a brick. He wrote a decently thick book on the very same thesis.

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
August 24, 2021 11:48 am

To dot, and others who quote Flannery: you’ve thrilled for years over being able to cherry pick a statement he made without nuance

“A” statement?
Now I know you are just taking the piss.
Here are some more:
“I think there is a fair chance Perth will be the 21st century’s first ghost metropolis”
“Brisbane and Adelaide – home to a combined total of three million people – could run out of water by year’s end;” (2007)
“In Adelaide, Sydney and Brisbane, water supplies are so low they need desalinated water urgently, possibly in as little as 18 months.” (2007)
“The water problem is so severe for Adelaide that it may run out of water by early 2009.” (2008)
“Sadly we’re more likely to see cyclones more frequently in the future.”.
“Just imagine yourself in a world 5 years from now, where there is no ice over the Arctic” (2013)

The final word from the Leftist and global warming obsessed The Conversation on Flannery…
“How is it that Tim Flannery could have got it so spectacularly wrong? The most obvious factor could well be Flannery’s lack of background in a climate science. He is an academic, however his background is mammalogy – he studied the evolution of mammals.”

“A” statement? One second of duck-duck-going and your theory is shot to pieces.

Zipster
Zipster
August 24, 2021 11:51 am

I reckon homeschooling or at least small private schools will become popular.

don’t bet on it, most private schools are even more woke.

Maybe some rage at the ballot box.

that old trick never works.

rosie
rosie
August 24, 2021 11:52 am

Have the cowardly morons in charge given up yet?

I noticed pharmacy at my current location is now offering covid jabs and the testing station that was empty last Tuesday morning was so busy they were diverting testees to Melbourne showgrounds.
Apparently there’s an outbreak

Also saw three border force staff at the coffee shop, two were vaping up massive clouds of smoke and exchanged pleasant greetings with ys as we walked past.

Unlike cops who say nothing to no-one.

Boambee John
Boambee John
August 24, 2021 11:54 am

Stevie

Still no comment on the climateers’ unbroken record of failure in their prognosticians over more than 30 years? You must be able to point to something they have got right!

cohenite
August 24, 2021 11:57 am

From sfb’s linked study:

Saturation water vapor pressure will increase by the Clausius Clapeyron rate of roughly 7% per degree of warming and consequently extreme precipitation intensity is expected to increase as the planet warms (Trenberth et al., 2003; Allan and Soden, 2008). Moreover there is ample evidence from the literature showing that daily extreme precipitation is increasing in Australia (Alexander and Arblaster, 2017; Gallant and Karoly, 2010; Gallant et al., 2014; Alexander et al., 2006, 2007; Donat et al., 2013). Studies have shown that daily rainfall extremes at some locations can scale at a rate that is consistent with the Clausius-Clapyeron rate (Westra et al., 2013; Hardwick Jones et al., 2010; Utsumi et al., 2011).

Studies have also shown that it is the most extreme precipitation events, up to the 99.8 or 99.9th percentiles on sub-daily timescales that are increasing the most (Guerreiro et al., 2018; Jakob et al., 2011; Westra and Sisson, 2011; Groisman et al., 2005; Hardwick Jones et al., 2010; Berg et al., 2013), highlighting the importance of utilizing sub-daily observations. Several studies have identified scaling rates up to twice the Clausius Clapeyron rate on sub-daily time scales in the mid-latitudes (Lenderink and Van Meijgaard, 2010; Lenderink et al., 2011; Utsumi et al., 2011). Guerreiro et al. (2018) identified scaling rates exceeding 3 times the Clausius Clapeyron rate on hourly timescales in the northern parts of Australia.

I have previously linked to the BOM’s measure of daily very heavy rainfalls showing no trend.

Here is the BOM’s intra daily record of very heavy rainfall events (99th decile) showing a slight decline over the last 120 years:

http://reg.bom.gov.au/cgi-bin/climate/change/extremes/timeseries.cgi?graph=R99p&ave_yr=T

The study mentions the Clausius Clapeyron principle which as I explained is a maxim that warmer air holds more water. Alarmists have been confounded by the fact that a warming atmosphere is NOT holding more water as my previously linked graph showing relative humidity has FALLEN over the last 50 years. I will link to an analysis on why the C-C relationship has failed to apply to modern atmospheric water content and consequent rainfall patterns as predicted, wrongly, by alarmists, but one reason why there is less water in the atmosphere is because pan evaporation has dropped, along with a decline in wind speeds, called stilling, and since wind is a facilitator of evaporation that makes sense. There is a lot of confusion about pan evaporation (see Figure 3.2 AR4) but one of the best studies on it is here:

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0022169411007487

As Stewart Franks pointed out in another study, which I will also put up later, alarmists don’t understand, or admit, that as temperature increases that extra energy goes to heating the surface and not producing evaporation. Which is another way the theoretical process described by the C-C relationship is confounded.

rosie
rosie
August 24, 2021 11:59 am

OSC

Exactly it was flannery and his then taxpayer funded Climate institute that led to most states spending billions on white elephant desalination plants.

That didn’t happen because of a single throwaway line.

Don’t tell us we have lying eyes.

rosie
rosie
August 24, 2021 11:59 am

Poley bears!

Speedbox
August 24, 2021 12:00 pm

Cassie of Sydney says:
August 24, 2021 at 10:51 am

“I suspect the Labor premiers are working with Federal Labor…and once Albo is elected all closed borders will be reopened….like magic!”

Yes, but notice how Morrison is becoming more assertive about ending lockdowns etc? There are several reasons.

1. Private polling has clearly told the Libs that there is growing national frustration with lockdowns and the vaccine is seen as the ‘saviour’ (as per what every politician has been saying). So, Morrison has pumped the 70 to 80% threshold as the key to freedom.
2. The libs have an election due no later than August 2022 but that is the middle of winter so he will want to go in possibly late January or more likely Feb/March 2022. Summer! Beaches! Cricket! Picnics! We are all happy little vegemites!! It has to be done before the May budget so we don’t see how screwed we are financially. There are heaps of other factors such as China and iron ore price etc but Morrison can’t allow his election date to be determined by Albo and the later he leaves it, the more he is wedged.
3. The international borders must re-open soon. There are a range of serious implications for agriculture, tourism/hospitality, universities, retail, employment if they do not. Those industries are already on their knees and there are simply not enough people in Australia to revitalise them.
4. The National Cabinet is out of control and Morrison knows it. He has to take back the initiative. He has to portray himself as the ‘national leader’ otherwise he might as well hand the keys to the lodge to Albo now.

But ultimately, this is all about Morrison’s re-election. Everything he does will be with an eye on the electorate and the Libs retaining government. Nothing else matters. He knows he has a steep battle with Labor being a small target, Clive Palmer will ‘steal’ some valuable votes, the LDP will steal some more…..and the people are becoming increasingly tired and restive. Although the protests were mainly focussed in Melbourne and Sydney, when you add the multiplier principle, these are concerning and Morrison would be doing the numbers. Threats of more lockdowns, even when we have achieved 80% vaccination rates, are distinctly unhelpful to his re-election prospects. So, expect Super Scotty who will be able to slay the covid faster than a locomotive, leap recalcitrant Premiers in a single bound……

cohenite
August 24, 2021 12:01 pm

Here is the Franks study/observation:

https://australianclimatemadness.com/2009/11/19/shock-murray-darling-warming-not-due-to-co2/

Lead researcher Associate Professor Stewart Franks, from the University’s Faculty of Engineering and Built Environment, said the findings were based on known principles of physics.

“Senior climate change researchers have claimed that higher temperatures lead to higher moisture evaporation and that this is why the Murray Darling Basin has experienced such a harsh drought,” Associate Professor Franks said.

“This is incorrect and ignores the known physics of evaporation.

“During drought, when soil moisture is low, less of the sun’s radiant energy goes into evaporation and more goes into the heating of the atmosphere which causes higher temperatures.

“Most importantly, the elevated air temperatures do not increase evaporation but are actually due to the lack of evaporation and this is a natural consequence of drought.

“Therefore any statement that the drought experienced in the Murray Darling Basin is a direct result of CO2 emissions is fundamentally flawed.”

Associate Professor Franks said the findings of the study highlighted the importance of getting the science right.

“A key concern is that the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change – which advises governments around the world – has used the Murray Darling Basin and incorrect science as an example of CO2 induced climate change.

Diogenes
Diogenes
August 24, 2021 12:02 pm

Teachers like Eddie Woo need megabucks. Crap teachers need to be on the dole.

Teachers like Eddie are burning out because of the demands placed on them. I saw & met Eddie when he visited us earlier this year, he had to visibly pull himself together before his ‘performance’ .

Without taking away anything Eddie does, but teachers like Eddie are also lucky that they are teaching at nice modern middle-class schools like Cherrybrook Technology High with lots of motivated parents and students. They do not lose valuable class time dealing with kids who do not want to be at school, or doing your subject and whose parents do not value education. They do not waste time after school phoning home the parents of the worst disruptors and creating the paper trail that the school requires to justify any action we take. As a result of online learning and not having to deal with the bullshit and admistrivia, I actually have time to reflect and improve the resources I use, and I am spending LESS time (40-45 hours vs 50-60 hours per week) doing so.

This week is my last week in the NSW system as the school has finally found a replacement for me, a 4th year teaching student, as my specialty is very hard to fill, and nobody wants to go to a school where 50% of parents are in the lower 25% of parental income & education and 25% are in the next higher quartile, and only 5% are in the top quartile. vs 60% in the top quartile at Cherrybrok.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Border Closure

Also saw three border force staff at the coffee shop, two were vaping up massive clouds of smoke and exchanged pleasant greetings with ys as we walked past.

Border Farce engaging in conversation?
They’d likely have just been upskilled from grunting or pointing, & have learned to speak. Showing off their new skill to you, trying to wing it as if they’re on a level with normal people.

cohenite
August 24, 2021 12:06 pm

And here is the Bill Kininmonth paper on why the alarmists get the Clausius-Clapeyron principle wrong:

https://www.lavoisier.com.au/articles/greenhouse-science/climate-change/kininmonth-Clausius-Clapeyron.pdf

Satellite-based observations suggest that the response of global evaporation to
Earth’s warming is near the Clausius-Clapeyron relationship. However computer
models that are the basis for predictions of dangerous anthropogenic global warming
have an evaporation response that is only about one-third the Clausius-Clapeyron
relationship. The computer model predictions of anthropogenic global warming are
likely exaggerated.

Throwing lots of alarmist modelling papers as shit for brains is doing is a classic example of repetitive logic failure: climate modelling is flawed but I’ll use these modelling papers to prove modelling is not flawed.

Zipster
Zipster
August 24, 2021 12:09 pm

this is doing the rounds on farcebook


And as a local border resident I would also add
Our teachers can’t come in Queensland because they live in Nsw. my kids have no teachers they love same time as teachers don’t have an income.

1. You told us to stay home for 2 weeks to ‘flatten the curve’. And so we did what you asked and 18 months later we are still locked in our homes.

2. You kept brothels open but closed churches. You keep liquor & donut stores open but close the gyms.

3. You tell us you are “following the science” whilst subjecting us to arbitrary restrictions with zero basis in science.

4. You said “we’re all in this together” while we lost our jobs and you got pay rises.

5. You made us quarantine in small hotel rooms while making special rules for Hollywood stars.

6. You keep Australian citizens from returning home while allowing Caitlyn Jenner into the country to film Big Brother.

7. You refuse individuals the ability to visit relatives interstate but give special exemptions to entire football teams.

8. You tell us that masks are unsafe, then change your mind and punish people who don’t wear masks.

9. You tell us AZ is unsafe for under 60s, then only unsafe for under 50s and now urge us all to get it, sneering at us if we hesitate to follow your ever-changing advice.

Yet your Chief Health Officer says no one under 40 should be injected with it.

10. You said we can’t go overseas but that you simply must go overseas to pitch for the Olympics, that was uncontested since Feb 2021, it was already our games.

11. And now, of course, you tell us that last year’s BLM march was safe but that our protest for freedom is a super spreader.

Is it any wonder thousands of people not only question everything you say but have reached breaking point, enough is enough. This is taking its hold over the children now ?

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
August 24, 2021 12:12 pm

The actual dismal value of climate modelling is (probably unintentionally) powerfully illustrated by the CMIP6 ensemble.

When the 40-odd climate models are run up over the period 1850 to 2010 they all fit tightly around the estimated ‘global mean temperature’.

This is taken as scientific EVIDENCE of their skill in modelling the climate (and in a greasy, mealymouthed way a suggestion that they actually can be relied upon looking forward, because skill).

But, after ~2010, when they are no longer fitted to a common baseline – sproing – they are all over the place. Scroll down to see.

In any other field of human endeavour this would be regarded as speculation, rather than modelling.

rosie
rosie
August 24, 2021 12:12 pm

I find it a bit hard to believe people need to be told covid isn’t going away

Leigh Sales doherty institute

Bushkid
Bushkid
August 24, 2021 12:17 pm

Zipster says:
August 24, 2021 at 8:31 am
….
Another person she knows claims that she knows the parents of a kid that died following the homebush mass child vaccination and that they have lawyered up.

I can’t find anything in the news about any adverse events from the homebush mass vaccination or about the 450+ that have died post vaccination. The only report about homebush is people not being able to get in. The only place where the deaths at homebush are mentioned is bitchute. There is not even a rebuttal in the MSM.

You could pretty well guarantee that if there had been NO adverse effects from that hideous herding of unaccompanied (mostly) minors into a processing plant for a medical procedure, it would have been front page news. E.g., “Look at how safe and successful this was!”

In what circumstances is it right, proper, ethical or legal to allow minors to be subjected to a medical procedure without a parent/guardian/personally preferred support person in attendance?

Were any of those minors permitted to pull out, to decline the jabs, if they decided not to have it once there? Were they “persuaded” to go ahead with it despite any misgivings? We just don’t know.

Anyone who doesn’t see anything wrong with that event is bereft of any human decency, moral or ethical standing whatsoever, and I would argue they have no legal protection either. That includes the bureaucrats, “advisors”, politicians, and all who participated in the jabbing on the day. I’d include the parents who allowed their kids to be jabbed like this.

The instigators and perpetrators of that “event” – to the very last man or woman (or whatever they think they are) – should be in jail right now and for life.

At what point does the general public realise that so much being done is so wrong? When does the majority get up on their hind legs and DEFEND THEIR OWN CHILDREN, if not themselves? I’m having a great deal of difficulty in believing that normal, rational, sensible, caring people would approve of this, let alone the parents of the kids!

Steve from Brisbane
Steve from Brisbane
August 24, 2021 12:25 pm

They have in part based them on a series of predictions that have failed, in part on a series of statistical chicanery, and so on.

And yet, amongst the scientific community, certainty of the climate science predictions being correct has only increased.

Why? Because the predictions have been proved broadly correct.

This isn’t a mystery. You cannot plausibly claim culture war motivation amongst thousands of scientists causes them to all fall in line.

The thing that continually gobsmacks me is that you extreme examples of Dunning Kruger think you’re on a winner, when the person coming here (me) and pointing out what the actual science is saying is the one with virtually every meteorological and scientific organisation of note on the planet backing him up.

Not only that – I can point to actual examples of extreme weather events of a kind predicted to increase (flash flooding from increased rainfall intensity) that’s been in the news – and it’s all “hurr hurr hurr, Steve’s the one brainwashed.”

The climate contrarianism is a failed project – you just refuse to recognise the obvious.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
August 24, 2021 12:30 pm

There really ought to be a reckoning for this – if for no other reason that these ‘epidemics’ pop up every few years.

The cumulative damage of government stupidity, the restrictions that never go away, the freedoms that do, truly needs to be stopped, starting with the absurd overreach from this one.

Seriously – they just made up a national cabinet that had no democratic checks or basis in the constitution. That is now a precedent.

And politicians cannot be trusted to do this. It must be forced on them. It must be something they cannot weasel their way around.

Morrison is lucky to live in a Western country where there is such a thing as redemption. If he were to jam his hand up the clacker of each of his cabinet colleagues, reach out through their mouths to grab a copy of binding restraints on political playtimes, drag it right through their alimentary canals while pulling his arm out it would be a splendid start.

And then, in time honoured tradition, retire discreetly to the study with a revolver.

cohenite
August 24, 2021 12:33 pm

Why? Because the predictions have been proved broadly correct.

You’re a liar and a troll. You throw in a couple of papers which are typical alarmist fodder to establish your cred and good faith and immediately revert to talking points and bullshit.

There has not been ONE prediction alarmists have made which has been validated. Alarmists say we predicted temperature increases and this has been validated. No they predicted very high temp increases which have not been validated.

The fact is the current world climate is both benign and typical; it is not unusual in any way.

Finally, it is now beyond doubt, that the dues ex machina of alarmism, CO2 increase caused by humans, is wrong.

Alarmism is a failed theory, now used by commies via the UN and renewable spivs, to destroy capitalism and the West. Shit for brains is either one of these bastards or the other type of alarmist, the useful idiot.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
August 24, 2021 12:36 pm

The actual dismal value of climate modelling is (probably unintentionally) powerfully illustrated by the CMIP6 ensemble.

The one which fits best is the Russian INM-CM4 model, which takes into account the natural climate cycles and has a low value for CO2 equilibrium climate sensitivity.

Does an Accurate Climate Model Exist? | Power Line (2016)

The Russians know a thing or two about this stuff. I suspect they’d rather like a bit of warming but unlike the West they know they have to stick to what works, not what is politically expedient. They learned this from the Lysenko fiasco.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
August 24, 2021 12:38 pm

SfB still demagoging without any supporting references or data. Sounds pretty religious to me.

Winston Smith
August 24, 2021 12:50 pm

rickw:

Monty cackling on Discord Cats about Andy Ngo being assaulted and taken to hospital.

Make no mistake, Munty is a POS. I can’t believe that people posted on his cat alternative.

He’s a nasty little bitch, and just loves getting people to walk out on a branch so he can chop it off behind them.
Just like a Lefty.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Border Closure

Tucker Carlson said this in today’s broadcast:

..In 2016 the govt of Australia ended almost all legal protections for public protest..

Anybody know what he’s referring to there?

Top Ender
Top Ender
August 24, 2021 12:56 pm

Special forces soldiers are preparing a legal class action over their treatment by Major General Paul Brereton during his inquiry into alleged war crimes in Afghanistan.

Thirteen soldiers from the Special Air Service given notices to show cause why they should not be dismissed after the Brereton report came out have now been told there is not “sufficient information” for their cases to be referred to investigators.

It is understood that in addition to the group’s challenge of the inquiry’s legitimacy in the high court they are planning individual cases over the way Major General Brereton and his inquiry teams interrogated soldiers.

“We were told we did not need legal representation and were then not allowed to leave the room for hours at a time,” one special forces operative told The Daily Telegraph.

It is understood soldiers broke down in tears as they were repeatedly harangued to produce evidence pointing to war crimes.

“Then statements were mailed to soldiers living on the SAS base at Swanbourne naming the person making allegations against them,” he said. “These were people living next door to each other, it’s almost as though they wanted to set fire to the place.”

Thirteen soldiers were issued with termination notices amid the fallout from the Afghan war crimes report. Picture: Department of Defence
Thirteen soldiers were issued with termination notices amid the fallout from the Afghan war crimes report. Picture: Department of Defence
In November the Brereton report recommended 19 individuals be investigated by the Office of Special Investigations on the basis of “credible information” of war crimes. However, the information gathered by the inquiry does not meet the standards of evidence to be admissible in a court of law.

Chief of the Defence Force Angus Campbell issued an apology to the Australian public when the report was issued. He did not respond to requests for a similar public apology to the 13 soldiers told last week that he is “not satisfied that there is sufficient information available to me to refer the matter” to investigators.

When the report came out Prime Minister Scott Morrison also apologised and promised that “justice is provided and compensation is paid to the victims.”

Daily Tele

Steve from Brisbane
Steve from Brisbane
August 24, 2021 1:00 pm

SfB still demagoging without any supporting references or data.

You know exactly how to find it – as if the recent IPCC report hasn’t been in the news.

Oh, and Bruce – Scientific American article on the complexities of snow changes under climate change includes a brief comment by a guy from the Rutgers Snow Lab, which supply your graph you think proves something it doesn’t.

Isn’t it odd that he would appear in such an article and not take the opportunity to say “and you know, that’s why we think our work disproves climate change is real”? I guess he just doesn’t know as much about it as a retired chemist with a thing for birds from Newcastle.

Winston Smith
August 24, 2021 1:01 pm

Cassie of Sydney:

I suspect the Labor premiers are working with Federal Labor…and once Albo is elected all closed borders will be reopened….like magic!

That’s a very good point, and one we should be hammering home.

Boambee John
Boambee John
August 24, 2021 1:01 pm

Why? Because the predictions have been proved broadly correct.

Except for the Arctic not yet being ice-free, the dams filling, the temperature stubbornly refusing to rise until it is “homogenised”, the millions of absent climate “refugees” and many other failed prognostications.

But while you are in the “true believer” mood Stevie, can I offer you a bridge that I happen to have for sale?

Winston Smith
August 24, 2021 1:04 pm

Mother Lode:

His not being fit was obvious during the campaign. The people (well, the living citizens) who nevertheless voted for him and the worthless MSM can hardly pretend to have come to a new insight.
That it took them another year to see what everyone else already knew shows that they are the problem and Joe should never have been elected.

Damn fine point being made there.
But you missed an important detail – Trump Won!

Boambee John
Boambee John
August 24, 2021 1:15 pm

You know exactly how to find it – as if the recent IPCC report hasn’t been in the news.

The part “in the news” has principally been the Summary for Policymakers, the non-scientific, highly political, part. The journalists are too uneducated in science to understand the actual scientific parts. A bit like you.

But you knew that, didn’t you Stevie?

Speedbox
August 24, 2021 1:28 pm

By the way, and further to my comment up thread about Morrison etc, have you seen the latest Qantas advertisement? It’s pro-vaccine (of course) but more than that, it ‘tugs at the heart strings’ for people wanting to travel again both domestically and internationally. Deliberately emotive.

It will be adverts like this that will inflame the call for more freedom – the fact that 40%+ of the population were born overseas or have a parent born overseas (thus meaning there are still strong links to those nations) is a major issue. It isn’t all about people wanting to go on holidays per se although that is also a big factor. People want to see their parents, grandparents, brothers, sisters and extended family. For almost 2 years, they have been told the can’t leave and now, having acquiesced and had the vaccine they still can’t?! More electoral dynamite.

Megan
Megan
August 24, 2021 1:31 pm

Similarly, Bruce can put up as many graphs of snowfall extent at he likes – because it is obvious, to anyone who isn’t just into cherry picking, that temperatures can rise substantially in summer, and even winter, and make no big difference to snow cover averaged out. In finer detail examination, though, there are some changes to extent of snow cover seasonally in different parts of the world, and no serious scientists think Bruce’s graphs disproves the extent of current climate change, for the simple reason that they don’t.

Bruce did warn the climate imbecile that he didn’t have the skill or expertise level to understand the graph.
This incoherent paragraph of fact deprived nonsense proves him right yet again.

Top Ender
Top Ender
August 24, 2021 1:42 pm

Daily Mail in the UK…scroll through and see how many stories about Covid – there’s aren’t.

Australians are looking like mugs.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/index.html

Arky
August 24, 2021 1:46 pm

Steve from Brisbanesays:
August 24, 2021 at 1:00 pm

..
Come on DB. Don’t make the Davidson error.
Turf this loser.

Arky
August 24, 2021 1:49 pm

Give this comment the tumbs up if you want to avoid the numberwang / Vietnam situation developing on this blog, but with SFB and his silly climate obsession.

calli
calli
August 24, 2021 1:50 pm

That’s really interesting, Top Ender.

I counted two, the second one a speculation about the next pandemic. Plus ER are having a fine old time protesting again. It’s as if the news cycle on the subject has exhausted itself.

The circuit breaker appears to be the American’s disgrace in Kabul.

calli
calli
August 24, 2021 1:54 pm

Whoops. Apostrophe malfunction.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
August 24, 2021 1:56 pm

SfB – Now you’re starting to try at least! Well done!

SciAm is wetter than a tsunami, I had to drop my subscription in the 1990’s they became so bad. I lasted nearly a decade longer with New Sci and The Economist before they too died of leftism. But aside from that let’s address the article.

First, and most fun is this one.

A 2016 analysis of satellite records also pointed to a broad pattern of decreasing snow cover across the Northern Hemisphere, particularly in the spring

Yes, that’s entirely true. If you look at the Rutgers data (choose the season on the LHS) the Spring snow cover is declining. And the winter and fall snow cover is increasing. Now why would that be? I will tell you why: it’s because farmers have worked out that tilling the land in early spring causes brown dirt instead of white snow to be presented to the Sun. Therefore increasing soil temperature. It’s a principle not unlike UHIE.

But they can’t do that in fall and winter since snow just falls onto the land again. They can only do it in spring. So why is fall and winter snow extent increasing? The article doesn’t say…

As for snow depth, that is about precipitation amount not temperature. Because the snow extent anomaly hasn’t changed it means the area of the planet at or below 0 C hasn’t changed, therefore the temperature hasn’t risen on average. That’s because if the real world temperature had risen the area at or below 0 C would be smaller. But it isn’t. The satellite still shows snow on the ground. Thin, thick, it doesn’t matter – since it delineates the zero degrees isotherm, which is what I’m talking about. Snow extent is a natural thermometer, snow depth is not.

It’s no surprise the Rutgers guy says “there’re no easy” answers since his data shows no net warming. He can’t admit that though without losing his job.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
August 24, 2021 1:57 pm

Daily Mail in the UK…scroll through and see how many stories about Covid – there’s aren’t.

I get a constant stream of Oz mockery from the UK/EU via the soshuls. A current favourite:

PUPPY PAIN Rescue dogs ready for adoption shot dead by council due to Covid restrictions

Someone upthread commented that Australia is killing/has killed its reputation as a tourist destination.
Believe.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
August 24, 2021 2:11 pm

As for general decline, yep that’s true over the whole dataset. But it declined from the seventies cold period until the nineties…when the decline stopped. And has stayed stopped (on average) through until now.

Here is the AMO over the same period.

You can see from 1970 the AMO rose rapidly until the end of the nineties, whereupon it went flat….and has been flat ever since.

If you invert the AMO and plot it against snow cover you’ll get the same thing. But the longer dataset of the AMO shows where we’re going, since it’s clear the cycle is about 60 years long. And when the downwards phase comes it will be like in 1900 or in 1960. Plummeting.

This is all real world data Steve. In twelve or so years of arguing about this I’ve never had a leftist manage to disprove any of it. They can’t, since it’s all there in black and white, as it were.

Meanwhile the jet streams right now are really loopy due to the solar minimum. Another big loop is about to hit the UK and the news articles are starting to be written about that, as I saw in the UK press this morning.

132andBush
132andBush
August 24, 2021 2:12 pm

Sof B

This isn’t a mystery. You cannot plausibly claim culture war motivation amongst thousands of scientists causes them to all fall in line.

President Dwight D. Eisenhower.

In this revolution, research has become central; it also becomes more formalized, complex, and costly. A steadily increasing share is conducted for, by, or at the direction of, the Federal government.

Today, the solitary inventor, tinkering in his shop, has been over shadowed by task forces of scientists in laboratories and testing fields. In the same fashion, the free university, historically the fountainhead of free ideas and scientific discovery, has experienced a revolution in the conduct of research. Partly because of the huge costs involved, a government contract becomes virtually a substitute for intellectual curiosity. For every old blackboard there are now hundreds of new electronic computers.

The prospect of domination of the nation’s scholars by Federal employment, project allocations, and the power of money is ever present and is gravely to be regarded.

Yet, in holding scientific research and discovery in respect, as we should, we must also be alert to the equal and opposite danger that public policy could itself become the captive of a scientific-technological elite.

These predictions by Eisenhower are “broadly correct”.

calli
calli
August 24, 2021 2:13 pm

Someone upthread commented that Australia is killing/has killed its reputation as a tourist destination.

A remarkable feat for a PM who once ran Tourism Australia.

Australia – You’re Standing In It!

Now hose it off your thongs before you come inside, there’s a good chap.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Border Closure

Someone upthread commented that Australia is killing/has killed its reputation as a tourist destination.

A remarkable feat for a PM who once ran Tourism Australia.

Well said Calli.

Zipster
Zipster
August 24, 2021 2:32 pm

You know exactly how to find it – as if the recent IPCCPravda report hasn’t been in the news.

fify

Bear Necessities
Bear Necessities
August 24, 2021 2:34 pm

Someone upthread commented that Australia is killing/has killed its reputation as a tourist destination.

A remarkable feat for a PM who once ran Tourism Australia.

Australia – You’re Standing In It!

Now hose it off your thongs before you come inside, there’s a good chap.

Without ‘Chunky Custard’ or ‘Yak Fat’. Some good comedians in that TV series.

cohenite
August 24, 2021 2:38 pm

Haven’t seen sfb over at Jo’s or Jen’s recently so I guess he’s trying out his new (from AR6) talking points here; the problem is they’re merely the same old crap dressed up with a dash of hysteria and indignation, as usual.

The AR6 report was unmitigated crap and I have mixed feelings that it has been drowned, not by rising seas, but by the chunk virus and afshitistan.

Speaking of rising seas, not, the inimitable Ken Stewart has a great post of what sea levels are doing around the East Coast compared to what they did during the Holocene:

https://kenskingdom.wordpress.com/2021/08/23/the-worlds-biggest-thermometer/

I find the best rebuttals to the alarmist fanatics is in Geology, Geomorphology and related disciplines which show what this planet can and has dished up climate wise in the past. When you do that you realise the garbage the alarmists dish up is pure bullshit.

calli
calli
August 24, 2021 2:46 pm

A Search function!

Thanks Dover. Perfect.

JC
JC
August 24, 2021 2:51 pm

Anyone seen the Qantas , so-called “tear jerker ad” that’s just out?

It’s here

1. Pretend Aussie larrikin in the bush ?
2. Asian chick with black dude . Mostly likely dude is aboriginal ?
3. Homosexual flight attendant. Complete flamer ?
4. Homosexual flight attendant again. More flaming. ?
5. Male and female cabin crew. Ambiguous who is running the show ?
6. Goody two-shoes family and likely strong Greens supporters. ?

JC
JC
August 24, 2021 2:52 pm

For some reason the tick symbol was turned into a question mark.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
August 24, 2021 2:55 pm

Went out today because out of quarantine but still in lockdown.
Did essential grocery shopping at BWS and, as I opened the car door, took my face nappy off.
An old scold shouted “you’ve got to keep your mask on”.
I told her to get fucked and coughed at her.
Going out in lockdown is fun.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
August 24, 2021 2:57 pm

For some reason the tick symbol was turned into a question mark.

Nearly every symbol other than the standard alphanumerics and punctuated get turned into a question mark. Smileys too.

cohenite
August 24, 2021 3:01 pm

More biden’s legacy:

https://www.breitbart.com/asia/2021/08/23/afghan-refugee-claims-taliban-raping-dead-bodies-its-victims/?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_term=daily&utm_campaign=20210823

A female Afghan refugee using the name “Muskan” told India’s News18 on Saturday that Taliban fighters are raping both live women and the dead bodies of their victims.

News18’s account described Muskan as a “girl” who left her job in Afghanistan and fled to New Delhi after “her life was threatened by a Jihadist group.” The article did not say exactly when she left Afghanistan.

“When we were there, we received numerous warnings. If you go to work, you are under threat, your family is under threat. After one warning, they would stop giving any warning,” Muskan said.

“They rape dead bodies too. They don’t care whether the person is dead or alive. Can you imagine this?” she added.

Muskan claimed the Taliban is seizing women from “each household” in towns they conquered and planned a “horrible destiny” for any women suspected of working for the U.S.-supported Afghan federal government….

Biden of course is an alarmist, probably the leading one in the world today, which should tell you all you need to know about the cult of alarmism. Hey sfb, get in here and defend your man biden; and when I say man, I mean corpse, which means he had better stay away from the talifucks.

calli
calli
August 24, 2021 3:02 pm

What rot!

🙂 😀 😉

Nah, nah! 😛

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
August 24, 2021 3:04 pm

“They rape dead bodies too. They don’t care whether the person is dead or alive. Can you imagine this?” she added.

Live goats or dead women? Hmmm. It’s a hard call.

calli
calli
August 24, 2021 3:04 pm

How about sunglasses on a miserable day?

B)

Winston Smith
August 24, 2021 3:04 pm

Top Ender:

Special forces soldiers are preparing a legal class action over their treatment by Major General Paul Brereton during his inquiry into alleged war crimes in Afghanistan.

By God, I hope so.
In terms of reach into government and the gross unfairness of the process, are we looking at an Australian Dreyfus Affair?

calli
calli
August 24, 2021 3:06 pm

Clearly not. Jake and Elwood would be most disappointed.

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