Open Thread – Weekend 21 Aug 2021


The Blind Leading the Blind, Pieter Bruegel the Elder, 1568

2,650 responses to “Open Thread – Weekend 21 Aug 2021”

  1. Miss Anthropist Avatar
    Miss Anthropist

    Am I first? Nice thread you have happening. Shame if enything happened to it.

  2. Tom Avatar
    Tom

    New open fred — great idea!

  3. Tintarella di Luna Avatar
    Tintarella di Luna

    Thank you Tom

  4. feelthebern Avatar
    feelthebern

    Oh boy.
    Expect another round of the cancel Joe Rogan to begin.
    A lot of people don’t know that Megan Murphy was fighting back against Canadian insanity before Jordan Peterson was.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xhBnWGpI7c

  5. feelthebern Avatar
    feelthebern

    Another cracking Leak today.

  6. feelthebern Avatar
    feelthebern

    It’s 2021 & I agree more with Russell Brand than I do with Peter Dutton.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdjR2r5ty5o

  7. feelthebern Avatar
    feelthebern

    Get in your time machine.
    Go back to 2004 & tell people that Joe Rogan (who that guy from Fear Factor) & Russell Brand (who that weirdo comedian who looks like he needs a good bath) are speaking up more about your freedoms than most “conservative” politicians.
    What a time to be alive.

  8. Cassie of Sydney Avatar
    Cassie of Sydney

    “feelthebernsays:
    August 21, 2021 at 5:56 am
    Oh boy.
    Expect another round of the cancel Joe Rogan to begin.
    A lot of people don’t know that Megan Murphy was fighting back against Canadian insanity before Jordan Peterson was.”

    Bern, I’ve been following Murphy for years…..she’s long been one of the my favourite true feminists. She was booted from Twitter for saying that transwomen aren’t women…which they aren’t! Meghan also has a great youtube channel…where she talks to interesting people. She also understands how feminism has lost its way and the importance of free speech.

  9. Cassie of Sydney Avatar
    Cassie of Sydney

    “It’s 2021 & I agree more with Russell Brand than I do with Peter Dutton.”

    Many of us do.

  10. Bruce of Newcastle Avatar
    Bruce of Newcastle

    Amazing how they never seem to do this for Extinction stinkies, BLM and aboriginal activists, the country shopper enablers or anything qwerty.

    NSW Police order rideshare services into Sydney’s CBD be suspended over protest fears (21 Aug)

    Rideshare services into Sydney’s CBD have been suspended as New South Wales Police move to block any attempts to protest against the city’s strict lockdown.

    A prohibition notice issued by NSW Police has ordered that all taxis, rideshare and passenger services pause trips into the city centre between 9am and 3pm on Saturday.

    More than 1,500 officers have been deployed to prevent, respond and disrupt to any protest activity, according to Central Metropolitan Region Commander Assistant Commissioner Peter Thurtell.

    The endless hypocrisy and inconsistency is a big reason why people aren’t listening to you Gladys. You do know that don’t you?

  11. Cassie of Sydney Avatar
    Cassie of Sydney

    “The endless hypocrisy and inconsistency is a big reason why people aren’t listening to you Gladys. You do know that don’t you?”

    Well said BoN and it is why I will never ever vote Liberal again.

  12. rosie Avatar
    rosie

    Dr Taylor Marshall posted YouTube update last night saying Cardinal Burke’s condition had improved (shared at Nilk’s) but I can’t find a more up to date media article Cardinal Burke covid condition update

  13. rosie Avatar
    rosie

    I shared this with Vic liberal Tim Smith last night and will @ at a few more liberal party mps now 😉

    dot shared this at dash cat last night ldp covid policy

  14. rosie Avatar
    rosie

    After eighteen months it should be no surprise. We are a nation of giant babies

    why isn’t someone else looking after us?

  15. shatterzzz Avatar
    shatterzzz

    Tom’s toons .. Peter Broelman .. what that about?

  16. Zipster Avatar
    Zipster

    More than 1,500 officers have been deployed to prevent, respond and disrupt to any protest activity, according to Central Metropolitan Region Commander Assistant Commissioner Peter Thurtell.

    clearly the protestors need to rebrand and go in blackface… they would get a police escort

  17. Eyrie Avatar
    Eyrie

    I disagree with the ldp policy. Freedom day should be today.

  18. Bruce of Newcastle Avatar
    Bruce of Newcastle

    I don’t know what he’s a carter of but whatever it is his cart is sure full of it.

    UK Defence Sec Defends Top General Claiming Taliban ‘Want an Afghanistan Inclusive for All’ (20 Aug)

    Britain’s Defence Secretary has defended General Sir Nick Carter, Chief of the Defence Staff, after he claimed that the Taliban are honourable “country boys” who “want an Afghanistan that is inclusive for all”.

    To see guys like Gen. Carter and Gen. Milley so obviously off with the fairies doesn’t exactly inspire me with confidence.

  19. Barking Toad Avatar
    Barking Toad

    Thanks Tom.
    And here was me scratchin’ round on the ole fred wondering – WTF?

  20. Boambee John Avatar
    Boambee John

    Cassie of Sydneysays:
    August 21, 2021 at 7:44 am
    “The endless hypocrisy and inconsistency is a big reason why people aren’t listening to you Gladys. You do know that don’t you?”

    Well said BoN and it is why I will never ever vote Liberal again.

    They have made their bed, now let them sleep in it.

  21. Knuckle Dragger Avatar
    Knuckle Dragger

    Thanks Tom.

    Younger brother in Melbin reckons that colossal fuckstick is looking to put all of Victoria under the hammer as soon as he can.

    He’s escaping to the country this morning.

  22. Boambee John Avatar
    Boambee John

    Dot

    Not sure if there is such a process, but is it possible for the Lib Dems to be renamed as the Liberty and Democracy Party? This would keep the LDP initials, but distance them from the stink clinging to the word “Liberal”?

  23. Knuckle Dragger Avatar
    Knuckle Dragger

    Maybe I should have had a look at the paper before the earlier comment. The Hun:

    Regional Victoria is set to be plunged back into lockdown and Melbourne’s 5.1 million residents are facing a new round of harsher restrictions.

  24. Crossie Avatar
    Crossie

    Tom, gratitude for the toons. Leak best of this morning’s offerings and even Ramirez was funny for once.

  25. Tintarella di Luna Avatar
    Tintarella di Luna

    I shared this with Vic liberal Tim Smith last night and will @ at a few more liberal party mps now ?

    dot shared this at dash cat last night ldp covid policy

    Policy pretty good except for one glaring omission — what about treatments and prophylactics and the egregious invasion of the doctor/patient privacy and privilege?

  26. Mater Avatar
    Mater

    Younger brother in Melbin reckons that colossal fuckstick is looking to put all of Victoria under the hammer as soon as he can.

    It seems all regional school kids were told to take all books home yesterday afternoon.
    Mine were, and so were Farmer Gez’s.
    All regional sports were told to cancel competition this morning.

    It’s on.

  27. Cassie of Sydney Avatar
    Cassie of Sydney

    They have made their bed, now let them sleep in it.”

    Yep.

  28. rosie Avatar
    rosie

    I dunno Tinta, because political parties leave the authorising of approved medical treatments to those delegated to do so?

    I see zero value in a political policy getting into what treatments should or shouldn’t be used in hospitals.

  29. Crossie Avatar
    Crossie

    feelthebern says:
    August 21, 2021 at 6:27 am
    It’s 2021 & I agree more with Russell Brand than I do with Peter Dutton.

    —————

    I went from reading the Economist and the Atlantic online in 1998 to Spectator and Quadrant fifteen years later to Russell Brand. Brand is still a frootloop about a lot of things but at least he is brave enough to go against the grain. It does help that he has the money not to care if he is othered.

    Quite disconcerting was watching the Economist go down the drain.

  30. Crossie Avatar
    Crossie

    Knuckle Dragger says:
    August 21, 2021 at 8:53 am
    Maybe I should have had a look at the paper before the earlier comment. The Hun:

    Regional Victoria is set to be plunged back into lockdown and Melbourne’s 5.1 million residents are facing a new round of harsher restrictions.

    —————–

    Talidan simply will not allow Gladys to overtake him in dictator stakes.

  31. rosie Avatar
    rosie

    I hate Dan.

    I spent hours last night rereading the stupid lockdown guidelines and worrying about something we plan to do.

    Did you know leaving the house to buy stuff is one person once per day?

    If you bought groceries in the morning you can’t pick up your fish and chips at 6.

    If I go and provide child care can I walk baby up for a coffee and also buy groceries on the way home? It seems not.

    And now he wants to tighten?

    Just stop it.

  32. hzhousewife Avatar
    hzhousewife

    I still cannot get my head around what possible benefit it could be to smash the bottom two thirds of the economy of the whole country.
    Sun is shining here, time to sow the first few rows of radish and beetroot, and watch the blue wrens flit about.

  33. feelthebern Avatar
    feelthebern

    Politico column on the Afghanistan cluster you know what.

    https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2021/08/20/biden-afghanistan-kabul-chaos-taliban-evacuation-505600

    I’m not sure if they’re trying to cover for Biden or explain away parts of it.
    Clearly an army of sub editors have butchered it.
    Bottom line, you can’t put your finger in a dyke when the whole dam has broken.

  34. Cassie of Sydney Avatar
    Cassie of Sydney

    “I went from reading the Economist and the Atlantic online in 1998 to Spectator and Quadrant fifteen years later to Russell Brand. Brand is still a frootloop about a lot of things but at least he is brave enough to go against the grain. It does help that he has the money not to care if he is othered.

    Quite disconcerting was watching the Economist go down the drain.”

    My story too…..I suspect there are many here who would concur.

  35. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare Avatar
    Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Seventy-eight ‘thoughts’ on your first post, Cassie, the most so far on this New Catallaxy.
    More even than Professor Bunyip.
    That’s impressive. Keep it up.

    ps. hope the special one is feeling better today. Shame about hospital food and that you can’t take him in some of your chicken soup. I’m sure you’ve got a recipe for that somewhere. 🙂

  36. feelthebern Avatar
    feelthebern

    The NSW Libtards are already trying the narrative on:
    By summer, NSW will be Florida/Texas while Victoria is New York.

    Bull shit.
    By summer, NSW will be NY 2021 while Victoria will be NY 2020.

  37. Zipster Avatar
    Zipster

    Quite disconcerting was watching the Economist go down the drain.

    it’s the rise of the groupthink woke zombie class

    limiting what people can say seems to limit what they can think

    just check out the comments on smh. masses of scarred little sheeple

  38. hzhousewife Avatar
    hzhousewife

    And….. best YouTube of the week was Jordan Peterson interview titled The Four Do’s and Dont’s of Divorce – it’s NOT really about divorce, a lot about education, men’s wellness etc, really worthwhile and affirming. Recommended for all young persons planning a life path.

  39. Tom Avatar
    Tom

    The woke morons who run the Australian Press Council think this excellent 2020 Johannes Leak cartoon lampooning Joe Biden and Kamala Harris using Biden’s own words in a tweet is waaaaaaaaacist because unnamed leftard petals (whose identity the APC protects) complained about it.

    In today’s Paywallian, Chris Kenny rails against yet another institution designed to protect freedom of speech that is instead trying to shut it down.

    The APC should be bulldozed into the sea.

  40. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare Avatar
    Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    “Bottom line, you can’t put your finger in a dyke when the whole dam has broken.”

    Someone should tell Gladys.

    Sadly ScoMo is determined to stand behind her to keep wrecking the economy and peoples’ lives in order to prove that she/he can knock the flood back a bit. So many people are so fed up with that approach. He has rocks in his head supporting her in this. Mass disobedience is beginning to show. If he continues beyond September 30 sparks will really fly. Powder-keg stuff.

  41. Cassie of Sydney Avatar
    Cassie of Sydney

    “The APC should be bulldozed into the sea.”

    Isn’t membership voluntary? Why does News Corp bother signing up to the APC?

  42. Bruce of Newcastle Avatar
    Bruce of Newcastle

    Looks like New York City is about to be hammered.

    Henri is the storm we have feared for decades (20 Aug)

    Joe Bastardi has the track hitting west of where Accuweather has it. If he’s right it’ll slam Manhattan just about bang on. ETA is Monday.

    The climate activists will be howling like hyenas. Some are already blaming the Afghanistan fiasco on global warming.

  43. Cassie of Sydney Avatar
    Cassie of Sydney

    “Seventy-eight ‘thoughts’ on your first post, Cassie, the most so far on this New Catallaxy.
    More even than Professor Bunyip.
    That’s impressive. Keep it up.”

    Thanks Lizzie….I would like to post more threads…if Doomlord DB agrees.

    What depresses me most about my man being in hospital is that I can’t visit him.

  44. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare Avatar
    Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    “The NSW Libtards are already trying the narrative on:
    By summer, NSW will be Florida/Texas while Victoria is New York.”

    Conveniently forgetting about Britain.

  45. rosie Avatar
    rosie

    I think you are right ftb.

    Dan thinks he has covid eradication super powers.

    If he’s still around after the next election my sister and I are moving.

  46. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare Avatar
    Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    AZ, used in Britain, seems to have a longer level of immunity than Pfizer/Moderna, the ones mostly used in the USA. Regardless, hospitals can only continue to cope if there is a strong economy left to pay health systems to open up more beds if necessary. This virus is not going to be ‘defeated’ by continual lockdowns but it can recede into a background health issue as herd immunity mounts. People will make their own judgements re self-protection.. New and better vaxxes will take care of new variants.

  47. feelthebern Avatar
    feelthebern

    A friend in NY told me last night that post the axe attack in the financial district, the NYPD presence is notably up in the area.

  48. feelthebern Avatar
    feelthebern

    People should take the Oxford study into AZ with a grain of salt considering they get a royalty from every single jab.
    Similar to Pfizer releasing a report saying their vax is best.

  49. rosie Avatar
    rosie

    Hat tip, the colonel at discord

    speaks of new vaxxs

  50. rosie Avatar
    rosie

    Obviously the best idea really is to get gigavaxxed

  51. feelthebern Avatar
    feelthebern

    My modern military tactics knowledge is zero.
    But why would you abandon Bagram airbase?
    Even if you were retarded enough to think your embassy in Kabul would remain.
    Shouldn’t Bagram been the place/deterrent that was the last gateway out of the country ?

  52. Boambee John Avatar
    Boambee John

    rosiesays:
    August 21, 2021 at 8:59 am
    I dunno Tinta, because political parties leave the authorising of approved medical treatments to those delegated to do so?

    I see zero value in a political policy getting into what treatments should or shouldn’t be used in hospitals.

    Indeed, however, there has already been such political intervention, getting back to reality requires another to negate the first.

  53. Dr Faustus Avatar
    Dr Faustus

    BoN @ 8:18;

    Britain’s Defence Secretary has defended General Sir Nick Carter, Chief of the Defence Staff, after he claimed that the Taliban are honourable “country boys” who “want an Afghanistan that is inclusive for all”.

    Which begs the question, why has the British military been shooting and bombing these fine fellows, instead of reaching out to them to bring peace and harmony to the troubled land?

    Invincible stupid.

  54. Vagabond Avatar
    Vagabond

    Here’s a video that needs to go viral
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpfp0t9Vjb0

  55. rosie Avatar
    rosie

    The ldp need to reach as many people as possible.

    Getting into the details of medical treatments is both superfluous and counter-productive. Most people aren’t interested in does invermectin work?

  56. Knuckle Dragger Avatar
    Knuckle Dragger

    Shouldn’t Bagram been the place/deterrent that was the last gateway out of the country ?

    Bagram, and anywhere around it in SAM range. Had a schoolmate flying with the RAF on exchange shot down after takeoff in Iraq that way some years ago.

  57. rosie Avatar
    rosie

    And Steven Waterson behind the paywall.

  58. Drax Avatar
    Drax

    rosie says:
    August 21, 2021 at 7:53 am
    I shared this with Vic liberal Tim Smith last night and will @ at a few more liberal party mps now ?

    dot shared this at dash cat last night ldp covid policy

    How about an amendment to our PW constitution to block States from closing their borders? This was clearly the intent of those who drew it up.

  59. Bruce of Newcastle Avatar
    Bruce of Newcastle

    Peter Horowitz Caroline Di Russo on stairmandan

    Wow, a few tweets further down is this one:

    Dave Hughes @DHughesy
    There’s a reasonable chance the collective political leadership of Australia has now jumped the Shark.
    4:08 PM · Aug 20, 2021

    If a lefty of such pure water is saying this then Gladys and Dan are hitting a level rarely seen outside of Norkistan.

    (In checking backstory I was amused to find Hughesy in Media Watch Dog 21 Aug 2020, exactly one year ago, praising Dan Andrews fulsomely. 🙂 )

  60. cohenite Avatar
    cohenite

    Thanks Tom; in a tight group I thought this was the best:

    https://cdn.creators.com/1054/308679/308679_image.jpg

  61. dover0beach Avatar

    Cardimona posted this on the OOT:

    My mate Dan’s fit sister died unexpectedly after being fully vaccinated.
    Here’s yesterday’s Cairns Post story about her, followed by today’s story.
    I talk to the journo via email occasionally (about ruinables in Douglas Shire) and I’ve sent him two thumbs up for today’s piece.

    Yesterday…
    ***

    Shock loss of teacher
    MARK MURRAY

    Cairns school teacher and mother-of-two Sara McCarthy, 45, died suddenly in Cairns after returning from a jog. Picture: Supplied

    A FAR North family is devastated after the sudden death of a fit and healthy 45-year-old mum who collapsed on a Cairns street returning from a jog.

    Freshwater State School teacher Sara McCarthy was found unconscious on a footpath and rushed to the Gold Coast University Hospital, where she underwent emergency blood clotting procedure related to a stroke.

    She slipped into a coma and died on Friday.

    Her death has stunned her loving family, friends and the school where she was “well loved by staff, students and admired by all.”

    Ms McCarthy – a mother of two – was almost back at her front gate after a 10km run when tragedy struck.

    She was in training for a half marathon.

    Her heartbroken brother, former KAP candidate Daniel McCarthy, said the family was in a state of shock.

    “We are devastated,” he said.

    “There are many hearts and lives that she has touched and influenced in a positive way.

    “The outpouring of grief across the community just goes to show what a wonderful person Sara was.”

    Mr McCarthy said his sister was an inspiration to her children, family, friends and colleagues in 2019 when she lost 58kg following the death of their mum. She had transformed herself into a supremely fit athlete.

    “She did an amazing job through hard work and discipline,” Mr McCarthy said.

    He said the circumstances into her death were gut-wrenching. “She had a stroke while she was running,” he said.

    “Someone found her and rushed her to the hospital. She slipped into a coma on the way down to the Gold Coast and never came out.”

    Tributes are pouring in for the “best mother” who was “loved fiercely” by her two children Georgia, 14, and Jack, 12. She was the youngest of four siblings.

    “This sudden loss has shocked our community, and we want Georgia and Jack to know they have our immediate and ongoing support,” her friend Katie Williard said.

    “Sara always provided opportunities for her kids, helping them to become the independent and confident people they are today, and we know she would want them to continue doing the things they love in her absence,” she said.

    ***
    Today…
    ***

    Probe into jog death
    MARK MURRAY

    FRIENDS, family and colleagues of a fit and healthy Far North primary school teacher have called for an investigation into her sudden death.

    Cairns mother-of-two Sara McCarthy had a stroke and collapsed after a jog on August 4.

    The 45-year-old (right) was flown to a Gold Coast hospital where she had emergency blood clot procedures but never recovered. She died on Friday, August 13.

    Ms McCarthy – who was training for a half marathon – had complained of severe back pain leading up to her death. She had been fully vaccinated, having her second dose of Pfizer on July 28.

    Federal health authorities have issued a new warning to the product information of the Comirnaty (Pfizer) vaccine and possible “inflammation of the heart” and “of the membrane around the heart” as a rare side effect of the jab which may occur “within 10 days of vaccination”.

    The conditions, known as myocarditis and pericarditis, can in severe cases lead to stroke or heart attack due to blood clots forming in the heart.

    The Therapeutic Goods Administration has received 188 reports of suspected myocarditis and/ or pericarditis following vaccinations with Pfizer as of August 15. A spokeswoman said there had been no reported fatal cases of myocarditis in Australia as being linked to the Pfizer dose.

    News Corp is not suggesting Ms McCarthy died as a result of the Pfizer vaccine, only that there are investigations into possible links between its side effects and, in rare cases, stroke and other heart conditions.

    “She had extreme back pain on the same day she had the second Pfizer shot,” friend Kate Willard said. “Sometimes extreme pain can be an indicator of stroke, but we just don’t know.”

    A Queensland Coroners Court spokesman said Ms McCarthy’s death had been reported to the Northern Coroner “and will be investigated accordingly”.

    Ms McCarthy’s brother, Daniel Mc-Carthy, said the exact cause of his sister’s death was in the hands of the coroner.

    “We need to wait and let the experts do their job, and we’ll deal with whatever the outcome is,” he said.

  62. Arky Avatar
    Arky

    Morning, wanker cats.

  63. Old School Conservative Avatar
    Old School Conservative

    That Steven Waterson piece (Face it, our freedoms will never be returned until we learn to obey) in The Oz is an an absolute cracker.

    A couple of examples:
    The madness toggles between sinister and comical. Especially hilarious are the comedy stylings of the bullying dolt who is turning Victoria into a post-apocalyptic wasteland

    Sure, a few more weeks of lockdown is bearable if you have a secure job, a pretty garden, a good library and a well-stocked wine cellar; but it’s a very different experience if you’re on the 10th floor of a grim apartment block with three young kids and have just lost your weekly pay cheque

    Where do these buffoons find the audacity to tell us they’re “angry”, “disgusted” or “disappointed” with the citizens of their state, or country? If you think, premiers, that it’s appropriate to address your paymasters with that kind of supercilious, patronising language you have a profoundly flawed understanding of your relationship to the electorate..

    Very well written by Waterson, with much passion and unerring accuracy against the totalitarian state we have become.

  64. Knuckle Dragger Avatar
    Knuckle Dragger

    Aaaaand there we go.

    Regional Vicco in lockdown as well from 1.00 p.m.

    Handsy Dan:

    ‘This is not a choice. We have to follow the advice.’

    Make a decision, you snivelling coward. Stop deflecting. The CHO is not the Premier. If it’s your lockdown, say so.

  65. Old School Conservative Avatar
    Old School Conservative

    Morning, wanker Arky.
    How’s the hunched back today?

  66. Tintarella di Luna Avatar
    Tintarella di Luna

    I dunno Tinta, because political parties leave the authorising of approved medical treatments to those delegated to do so?

    I see zero value in a political policy getting into what treatments should or shouldn’t be used in hospitals.

    No they don’t — that albino cane toad in Queensland legislated to prohibit doctors prescribing certain drugs as treatment for COVID. Of course political parties should/shouldn’t be interfering with treatments but they are aren’t they?

  67. dover0beach Avatar

    ‘This is not a choice. We have to follow the advice.’

    If you have to follow it, it isn’t advice, it’s an order. Unless emergency powers cede executive authority to the CHO, they don’t, this is entirely the choice of the Premier.

  68. Shy Ted Avatar
    Shy Ted

    WTF is this part of the LDP policy> – Improve the nation’s quarantine capacity. Effective and efficient quarantine facilities should have been established as soon as travel restrictions were imposed (or earlier). Facilities need immediate improvement, both for the benefit of Australians returning from overseas now and in preparation for future pandemics.
    They’re pulling cases out of thin air based on a disproven test and are already building “quarantine facilities” which are clearly prisons by any other name and no one who goes into them will be sick in any meaningful way otherwise they’d be in hospital.
    Very perceptive comment, Tintarella.
    LDP, bunch of bloody amateurs.

  69. dover0beach Avatar

    BTW, has any of this advice been made publicly available, or is it a skirt the Premier hides behind?

  70. Zipster Avatar
    Zipster

    Where do these buffoons find the audacity to tell us they’re “angry”, “disgusted” or “disappointed” with the citizens of their state, or country? If you think, premiers, that it’s appropriate to address your paymasters with that kind of supercilious, patronising language you have a profoundly flawed understanding of your relationship to the electorate..

    What are you talking about, the bugmen class are born to rule!

  71. rosie Avatar
    rosie

    Right now the ldp need to get a solid voter base.

    And we need to end lockdowns

    Medical treatments for covid are not a core issue.

    Why make things more difficult than they already are to get some traction away from the lockdown mentality?

  72. Tom Avatar
    Tom

    Face it, our freedoms will never be returned until we learn to obey
    The madness toggles between sinister and comical. Especially hilarious are the comedy stylings of the bullying dolt who is turning Victoria into a post-apocalyptic wasteland. But this is blackmail, not leadership.
    By STEVE WATERSON
    It’s tedious for the youngsters, I know, but we of more advanced years love to reminisce about the olden days, when nobody was permitted to shirk from home and we had to try a little harder to get ahead. You’d put in the hours and a dab of sycophancy to climb the corporate ladder; even career criminals had to work their way up from petty crime to probation to a spell in prison.
    We have it much easier these days: just ask Trong Duc Nguyen, the 31-year-old Cabramatta man who has gone straight to jail for two months after committing the hitherto unknown crime of travelling by train and bus from Sydney to Tenterfield. Small mercies, though; at least he didn’t travel the other way then write a mawkish song about it in New York.
    Trong’s punishment this week for breaching a public health order was entirely reasonable, according to police, who said “it indicates the level of seriousness of the matter”. Lucky for Trong he didn’t have the virus. I may be mistaken, but I think that might carry the death penalty up Armidale way.
    Enjoy this taste of what awaits us as the police state tightens its grip on our liberties. To drive home the seriousness of “doing the wrong thing”, the NSW Police Commissioner decided on-the-spot fines for health disobedience needed to be bumped up to $5000.
    My sense is that $1000 was already enough to put people off going without their masks, but I suppose if you’re on $649,500 a year it does seem like a trifling sum. Doing the wrong thing isn’t a problem for his officers, however: “We have to shape the behaviour of people,” he told them in a recent video. “If you write a ticket and get it wrong,” he added, “I won’t hold you to account for that.”
    Two weeks ago I watched people having their behaviour shaped at Bondi, as two mounted police rode their large horses south along the middle of the beach, stopping at the towels of two young mothers and their four toddlers, tiny beside the horses’ hoofs, to order them to pack up buckets and spades and leave the beach. Thanks for keeping us safe.
    The madness toggles between sinister and comical. Especially hilarious are the comedy stylings of the bullying dolt who is turning Victoria into a post-apocalyptic wasteland: it’s acceptable to remove your useless mask to drink coffee on the street, he declares, but an offence to do so to drink alcohol. It must be excruciating for black-clad Melburnians, paralysed indecision warming their espresso martinis.
    Victoria’s Health Minister, not to be outdone as a stand-up comedian, alerted citizens to a prostitute’s positive test. “If you have employed a sex worker in the St Kilda area,” he said on Wednesday, “you need to come forward and get tested.” Employed? What, to do some gardening? Imagine the negotiation: “I don’t mind mowing, but it’ll be an extra $50 if you want full weeding.”
    NSW, once a dim glimmer of common sense, has fully embraced the lunacy, the Premier’s magical crystal ball (remember, the one that promised our two-week confinement would end on July 9) now recalibrating its predictions to say we’ll be freed on September 30. Oh, and let’s throw in an added curfew for the troublesome, recalcitrant westies; and an outdoor mask mandate to make sure everyone in the state, from Broken Hill to Ballina, Bourke to Bega, feels stupid and miserable (and coincidentally can be recognised as a renegade at long range by the fine-happy police).
    Evidence worldwide shows the lockdown rules are nonsensical; curfews even more so, despite the Victorian Premier’s insistence that their value is “simply not up for debate”, which is presumably what he considers a more sophisticated version of “because I say so”.
    Then he, his interstate counterparts and their bloated public sector cheer squads seek to dignify their incoherent ramblings with words like “strategy” and “policy”, picked up in some Management for Dummies handbook.
    Sure, a few more weeks of lockdown is bearable if you have a secure job, a pretty garden, a good library and a well-stocked wine cellar; but it’s a very different experience if you’re on the 10th floor of a grim apartment block with three young kids and have just lost your weekly pay cheque.
    Perhaps we could equalise the pain with what we might call “personal lockdown”. When I’m trapped in my house I have no idea what my neighbours across the road are up to, and I’m protected from their disease-ridden lungs because they’re not allowed to enter my home, cough over my food or wipe their runny noses on my handkerchief.
    By the same token, it doesn’t affect me if they’re blithely eating from share plates in a restaurant or getting drunk with dodgy new friends in a crowded bar. More fool them if they want to risk infection.
    So if you genuinely believe lockdown is the best way to ensure you live to relish another moody Scandinavian crime drama, don’t feel threatened by the idea of the country opening up. You are at perfect liberty to design and pitilessly enforce a bespoke lockdown for yourself and your dependants; set your imagination free and make it the most watertight since Alcatraz. Put the appropriate warning signs on your home – arm yourself if necessary – and your withdrawal from society would be respected, even welcomed. But leave the rest of us out of it.
    Instead, we’re punished as though we were still in the classroom (unlike our schoolchildren), all in detention because one of the naughty pupils broke the rules; or worse, thanked and praised for “doing the right thing”, as though these idiots are capable of determining the difference between right and wrong. Just because they or their intellectually challenged health bureaucrats say something’s true, or (even less credibly) morally correct, doesn’t make it so.
    Where do these buffoons find the audacity to tell us they’re “angry”, “disgusted” or “disappointed” with the citizens of their state, or country? If you think, premiers, that it’s appropriate to address your paymasters with that kind of supercilious, patronising language you have a profoundly flawed understanding of your relationship to the electorate.
    There we are, worse off than when all the hysteria began, a risible counterweight to the return to normality spreading all over the world, slumped into a manufactured psychosis. Picture: Mark Stewart
    We’re urged to get vaccinated as the only way out of this nightmare, as though the restrictions were imposed by some external enemy, while what’s really happening is that our leaders create this misery, steal our freedoms, then command us to obey their orders in order to regain them. We used to call this blackmail. Let’s get vaccinated if we are satisfied it will protect us from severe disease, but understand that’s the main reason for doing so, not to gratify and exculpate these petty dictators. It appears you will still be able to catch and transmit the virus, so leave the unvaccinated to their own devices.
    Set a firm date for opening and make sure everyone who wants one can get the injection.
    The amount of mental and physical energy wasted so far on this 18-month exercise is astounding, not to mention the truly astonishing financial cost, $350 billion (that we know of) and counting, and nothing to show for it.
    A baby born here today picks up a $30,000 tab as a joining fee. Welcome to Australia, kid!
    Many of us are witnessing the mental distress and deterioration of young adults, robbed now of almost two of the best years of their lives. The unalloyed joy of Friday and Saturday nights in your early 20s, the ridiculous, stimulating, fleeting friendships, the parties, adventures and triumphs; the first tentative steps towards a career, learning how to work with and appreciate colleagues; the lessons and mistakes that prepare you for the bigger challenges of the wide world; all are stripped from these fledgling lives in service of a vain, inane quest to master nature and eliminate a “deadly” virus that spares more than 99 per cent of its victims (and that’s making the preposterous assumption that the number of asymptomatic “cases” isn’t far higher than we know).
    In China, the man in the street still knows nothing about the 1989 Tiananmen Square massacre, and we haughtily condemn the Communist government for that evil cover-up; but our own governments are consulting the same playbook. We are not trusted to know what health advice or other research informs the decisions (I use the term as loosely as possible) our leaders make; everything is “cabinet in confidence”, even the minutes of the “national cabinet”, which isn’t a cabinet at all.
    We have been leaked some of the figures, cynically suppressed by government, that quantify this mental-health disaster; and beside it the loss of a fairly small number of sick, elderly people is sad but insignificant. The increase in children’s depression, the growth of suicidal thoughts and acts, the self-harm, the eating disorders, the retreat into isolation and despair, the loneliness imposed on those who should be operating at maximum gregariousness and engagement, is wicked. There are many youthful rites of passage that you can’t just repeat a couple of years later: miss the school formal, the gap year, the overseas university exchange and they’re gone for ever.
    Even more destructive, but less visible, is the impact on those who should have started school, but have missed the first couple of years of learning how to get along with their peers, particularly those not blessed with parents who acknowledge the value of education.
    Unsocialised and unlettered, will they be accommodated when school returns, or abandoned? We thought child sacrifices died out with the Aztecs, but apparently not. Let’s hope they bring good rains, if not an end to the pandemic.
    Towards the far outpost of life’s journey, we all know old people whose main treasure and delight in life is their family, and the precious contact they have previously taken for granted, as have all the generations before them. They’re not able to distract themselves with an hour’s vigorous exercise, and there’s little consolation when your hand’s on the exit door to be told things will be back to normal in a year or so. Some don’t have that year up their sleeve, and it’s an act of unspeakable cruelty to prevent them from spending their last days exactly as they want.
    We have been leaked some of the figures, cynically suppressed by government, that quantify this mental-health disaster; and beside it the loss of a fairly small number of sick, elderly people is sad but insignificant.
    It may not be our governments’ intention to cause this damage, but it might as well be; just as it may not be their intention to destroy small business and impoverish one of the most productive sectors of society. It will be interesting to see if desperate protesters resurface this weekend to hurl themselves against the “wave of blue” the NSW Police Minister has smugly promised will meet them; there will surely come a point when people robbed of their livelihoods will have literally nothing left to lose.
    So here we are, worse off than when all the hysteria began, a risible counterweight to the return to normality spreading all over the world, slumped into a manufactured psychosis. Australians are being deliberately and methodically terrified, while enforced isolation weakens our resilience.
    It renders us more susceptible to the howls of panic, unchallenged by normal debate and conversation, forbidden to meet, discuss or express our disagreement.
    We are turning on each other like medieval city states, while our basic human decency dissolves into brawls over toilet paper.
    In 1653 Oliver Cromwell dismissed England’s corrupt and incompetent Rump Parliament with the words: “In the name of God, go!” A pity he’s not around today to remove the arses who polish the benches of our own parliaments.
    Link.

  73. feelthebern Avatar
    feelthebern

    Here’s something for those associated with the LDP.
    How about making all travel & quarantine exemptions public?
    Since the start of 2020.
    This would be a great way to differentiate yourselves from PHON.
    PHON ran dead on the issue at every election since the start of COVID because the red headed one & her inner circle didn’t mind being the beneficiaries of exemptions.

  74. Knuckle Dragger Avatar
    Knuckle Dragger

    BTW, has any of this advice been made publicly available, or is it a skirt the Premier hides behind?

    If I may, this is an extremely good point. I too would appreciate the opportunity to see this ‘advice’.

    It’s already been established that the goings-on in the National Cabinet are not sacrosant. Why would it be the case for lesser bodies in the Sates and Territories?

  75. feelthebern Avatar
    feelthebern

    If the LDP ran on that issue alone (the exemptions list), it would set them apart from every political party in Australia.
    It would carve off a lot of votes from people who would be going “Why Dan/Gladys/ScoMo/Pauline won’t you back making the exception list public”.
    It would be political poison for that retard in South Australia who granted himself an exemption so he could fly interstate to see his son graduate from uni.

  76. Woolfe Avatar
    Woolfe

    Hi Arky

  77. feelthebern Avatar
    feelthebern

    Watching Pauline flap about why she wouldn’t support making the exemptions list public would be quite humorous.

  78. Knuckle Dragger Avatar
    Knuckle Dragger

    Waterson’s last few pieces have been gold.

    This bit, in a piece where every word spoke volumes, stood out as well:

    We’re urged to get vaccinated as the only way out of this nightmare, as though the restrictions were imposed by some external enemy, while what’s really happening is that our leaders create this misery, steal our freedoms, then command us to obey their orders in order to regain them.

    We used to call this blackmail.

  79. Armadillo Avatar
    Armadillo

    I’m not particularly proud of myself, Cats. I just dobbed in some fellow citizens for what I believe to be a breach of COVID restrictions.

    Allow me to explain my actions. I just called into a local shopping centre to get essential supplies (booze and tobacco). Whilst there, I noticed four “Thrifty Rental” type buses. Two out the front, two out the back. On entering the premises, it was full of “Cheese People” buying snacks and slabs of beer.

    I have seen this at this particular supermarket before the restrictions came into force. It’s generally the “pick up point” for the local cheese people when heading to a funeral out west. The local ALC pays them a daily allowance whilst they go out there for a few days, and arranges free transportation.

    For the life of me, I can’t think of any other reason a heap of cheese people would all be travelling by mini bus. There was about 30 odd people that I saw. What possible reason/exemption could they have to travel?

    Here’s the thing. I attended a “virtual funeral” on Wednesday. Limited to 10 people. Her own son couldn’t attend because he is locked down in Canberra.

    It made my blood boil, so I became a “dibber dobber”. Am I a bad person?

  80. Knuckle Dragger Avatar
    Knuckle Dragger

    Blackmail is (apparently) defined in Victoria’s Crimes Act 1958 as ‘an unwarranted demand, with menaces.’

    It is said by some that this definition has been strongly substantiated over time in the higher courts.

    It is, for this appalling state of affairs, perfect.

  81. rosie Avatar
    rosie

    Don’t worry Dillo, there won’t be any $5500 fines.

  82. Knuckle Dragger Avatar
    Knuckle Dragger

    To outdoor pursuits today.

    I will opine on this further, for what it’s worth, later tonight.

  83. feelthebern Avatar
    feelthebern

    Finally, if the LDP doesn’t support such a good, transparent policy which would also be political gold for the entire campaign they are going into, the question is why not?
    How many of the LDP backers, decision makers also participated in the scams & rorts that went on?

  84. Arky Avatar
    Arky

    “I became a “dibber dobber”. Am I a bad person?”
    ..
    Yes.
    You just used the power of the state, a state that is currently destroying all our lives, in order to stick your nose in something you knew nothing about.
    But you’ve always been a prick, so I’m not surprised.

  85. calli Avatar
    calli

    What’s a cheese person?

    Are they related to the cheesemakers?

  86. Armadillo Avatar
    Armadillo

    But you’ve always been a prick, so I’m not surprised.

    I thought this site had an anti-doxing policy? It appears I’ve been lied to.

  87. Zipster Avatar
    Zipster

    “We have to shape the behaviour of people,”

    A true bugmen speaketh!

    Every smart phone, every PC will soon be the eyes and ear of Big Brother Bugmen.

  88. Zipster Avatar
    Zipster

    Reading through the twitter cesspol of bugmen, is depressing reading. A locust plague of sheeple baying for the blood of non-conformists.

    Seems only a few little stray cat blogs form the epicentre of freedom and liberty in this country.

  89. cohenite Avatar
    cohenite

    It made my blood boil, so I became a “dibber dobber”. Am I a bad person?

    Only if you root wombats; bad people root wombats.

  90. miltonf Avatar
    miltonf

    It would be political poison for that retard in South Australia who granted himself an exemption so he could fly interstate to see his son graduate from uni.
    which one? Birmingham is the only one that comes to mind.

    PHON ran dead on the issue at every election since the start of COVID because the red headed one & her inner circle didn’t mind being the beneficiaries of exemptions.

    I didn’t know that. Very disappointing.

  91. cohenite Avatar
    cohenite

    PHON ran dead on the issue at every election since the start of COVID because the red headed one & her inner circle didn’t mind being the beneficiaries of exemptions.

    Latham didn’t; neither did Roberts.

    I didn’t know that. Very disappointing.

    You didn’t know it because it didn’t happen; so don’t be disappointed. Be happy, the chunks are running the world!

  92. areff Avatar
    areff

    What’s a cheese person?

    You flew here, we gruyere

  93. miltonf Avatar
    miltonf

    Thanks Cohenite- so I was being bullshitted.

  94. Bruce of Newcastle Avatar
    Bruce of Newcastle

    Right now the ldp need to get a solid voter base.

    I will not be voting for them. After the SSM stupidity it became entirely clear where their hearts were.

    You cannot have a party with some lefty policies and some righty policies. It will immediately go left via Conquest’s 2nd Law. The Australian Democrats are the forerunner: they had a similar approach under Don Chipp, but were indistinguishable from the Greens when they finally expired.

    There is no centre any more. The Left has destroyed it utterly.

    DL needs to push his media career like Bernardi and give the pie-in-the-sky politics away. Righties won’t vote for a SSM-loving party and Lefties already have a whole bunch of alternatives, so they won’t ever vote for the LDP either. Give it away chaps, and find something else more productive to do with your time.

  95. miltonf Avatar
    miltonf

    One thing I know about the LDP is that lyin’hole was a hopeless senator.

  96. Barking Toad Avatar
    Barking Toad

    Good call BoN.

    Our options now are centre-left, left then fucking loony (greens)

  97. Professor Higgins Avatar
    Professor Higgins

    areffsays:

    August 21, 2021 at 12:12 pm

    What’s a cheese person?

    You flew here, we gruyere

    Frankly, m’dear, I don’t give edam.

  98. Dr Faustus Avatar
    Dr Faustus

    Where do these buffoons find the audacity to tell us they’re “angry”, “disgusted” or “disappointed” with the citizens of their state, or country?

    It comes from within; they are just saying exactly what they feel.

    Our political leaders are so massively invested in the all care, no responsibility ‘Zero Case’ strategy that any opposition to the CMO advice du jour is an existential threat to their careers.

    Cannot be tolerated.

  99. cohenite Avatar
    cohenite

    Frankly, m’dear, I don’t give edam.

    Gouda one.

  100. rosie Avatar
    rosie

    Thats right BoN

    Never ever hold your nose.

    Purity or nothing!

  101. calli Avatar
    calli

    Thanks guys. No light was shed, but plenty of yuk yuks.

    Armidale clearly isn’t the place for rule-breakers. Just as well I escaped when I did.

    But, oh…Boo Books. What a find!

  102. Cassie of Sydney Avatar
    Cassie of Sydney

    “Bruce of Newcastlesays:
    August 21, 2021 at 12:26 pm”

    So what do we BoN? Do we just give up? Whilst I agree the Lib Dems aren’t perfect, no party is….however the current Liberal party and the scum that infect it have completely walked away from any kind of Menzian tradition….the party isn’t interested in small government, in individual liberty, in small and medium sized businesses, in religious freedom or in free speech.

  103. Arky Avatar
    Arky

    “Whilst I agree the Lib Dems aren’t perfect, no party is”
    ..
    Open borders, drug fiends, buggery, globalist “free trading” with the world’s worst regimes…
    This isn’t the party you’re looking for.
    Look, we’re screwed. Just sit back, relax and enjoy the ride.

  104. Cassie of Sydney Avatar
    Cassie of Sydney

    And you know what….the only credible opposition in Victoria to the Talidan is coming from David Limbrick. The Liberals are missing in action….as always.

  105. Arky Avatar
    Arky

    Stop trying to find somebody to vote for to save us.
    There isn’t going to be anybody.
    Look to strengthen yourself internally and to find a tribe of like minded souls to help you think things through as we accelerate our descent into hell.

  106. Arky Avatar
    Arky

    “This is your captain speaking. We are now starting our descent into hell. The weather in hell is a balmy 2000 degrees. Thank you for flying arsehole airways. Your cabin staff will now come around with molten face clothes to burn your faces off”.

  107. Arky Avatar
    Arky

    [plane banks over]
    :Gasp:
    “Gee, the skyline of Hell is really stunning silhouetted against the red glow of screaming, burning souls.

  108. Bruce of Newcastle Avatar
    Bruce of Newcastle

    Thats right BoN
    Never ever hold your nose.
    Purity or nothing!

    Rosie – Peg on nose I voted PHON for the first time in my life last Federal election, despite their lefty Tobin tax brain fumes. I did so at the last minute because there was no one else, because the guy was a tradie drafted in at the last minute, and because otherwise I’d have to colour in all the boxes like I did in the last state election (which despite exhausting in the LA there was no one at all that I could vote for, not even holding my nose). It turned out well – Joel had a total brain explosion and has been giving the Liars a hard time ever since!

    Hopefully the Biden/EU/ALP fiascos (Albo is looking chipper and is squeaking “climate, climate” this week) will cause a reaction from the voters around the world and they will learn that lefty parties lie continually, and should be booted from the polity. But I’m not hopeful.

  109. calli Avatar
    calli

    To illustrate Arky’s point.

  110. Helen Avatar
    Helen

    I think it was on another cat, – Adam’s – where someone said vaccinate (force?) the over 50’s and let the rest rip. I sincerely hope this was a typo and it was meant to (offer) the vaccination to the 50 plus bracket.

    If it was intentional that over 50 should be vaccinated (by force or shame – both are the same in my book) – I am over 50 and I will not be vaccinated. How dare I be lectured to from some self perceived high moral ground of the vaccinated what I must/must not do.

    This is a medical apartheid that is creeping in where the vaccinated would have benefits the non-vaccinated do not, including lecturing and hectoring as well as shopping for food or attending school.

    In New York that means 70% of the black population who are not and are unlikely to be vaccinated, will be denied entry to such basic places of sustenance as supermarkets through not having a covid passport.

  111. Dot Avatar

    Might come here instead.

    Some lunatic fringe reader of Kangaroo Court is insisting not only are all Catholics accused of child abuse guilty, but the rate of abuse is possibly orders of magnitude worse than conviction rates because…without evidence…”I bet that police will agree with me” accusations are ten times the number of cases referred to the DPP.

    I can’t handle this level of stupidity and bigotry.

    Someone is not familiar with the outright legalised perjury allowed in Family Law.

  112. rosie Avatar
    rosie

    No one dared say force or shame for over 50s.

    You are arguing with a straw man.

    It was me and I said the target should only have been 70 percent of over 50s which is close to bring achieved and let it rip.

    Not the government’s 70 percent of eligible people (over 16)

  113. Dot Avatar

    *One thing I know about the LDP is that lyin’hole was a hopeless senator.*

    Nope, he was pretty good, he got decent airtime on ABC and FTA & The Australian continually lied about him.

    The Australian being the paper supporting the Berejiklian regime.

  114. rosie Avatar
    rosie

    Just read that dot.

    Considering that vicpol zealously prosecuted at least two innocent Catholic clergy on the say so of two fabulists yeah sure.

    I bet nobody else say boo.

  115. Dot Avatar

    *The LDP should*

    Do nothing you specifically request as a personal favour until you join, donate, turn up to meetings and volunteer for us.

    Then MAYBE someone will consider your ideas.

    You don’t like the way the footy club is run?

    Then nominate for the committee!

  116. cohenite Avatar
    cohenite

    Dan Bongino makes a good point: the so-called conservatives may not be the solution to all the problems, but the left are certainly the cause of all your problems.

    Dan’s podcast.

    I understand the anger at the so-called conservative parties who have weakly succumbed to infiltration by lefties; but in Australia, small new parties do not succeed: PHON and SFF are the exceptions which prove the rule. The best approach is to join the LNP and work against the infiltrators.

    As a matter of interest The Climate Sceptics Blog has been closed down by its host, an off-shoot of Google. The TCS blog has about 10 years of articles about the scam of AGW and will be a great loss.

  117. rosie Avatar
    rosie

    Exactly BoN

    Tobin Tax from a party that might hold a handful of seats?

    Who cares?

  118. Arky Avatar
    Arky

    *The LDP should*

    Do nothing you specifically request as a personal favour until you join, donate, turn up to meetings and volunteer for us.

    ..
    … and go through the initiation ritual.
    Bring your own elk horns, duct tape, kilt, ferret and poppers.

  119. Muddy Avatar
    Muddy

    Cassie of Sydney says:
    The Liberals are missing in action….as always.

    If I may quote myself from the Peter Smith ‘Roll up your sleeves…’ thread:
    As for placing hope in the Liberals – What are you people mixing your goat’s blood with?

  120. rosie Avatar
    rosie

    Im not looking for a saviour.

    Got one of those already.

    I’m looking for a balance of power brake in the upper house, state and federal.

  121. feelthebern Avatar
    feelthebern

    Dot, you’ve got the LDP big wigs on speed dial.
    Tell them to have making the travel & quarantine exemptions public part of their platform.
    Social media will do the rest.

  122. miltonf Avatar
    miltonf

    OK Dot, the one thing that stays in my mind is the tim tam during the TURC.

  123. miltonf Avatar
    miltonf

    Agree that it’s a toss up between LDP and PHON. Limbrick sounds ok too.

  124. miltonf Avatar
    miltonf

    Also agree we need one or both of those parties that state unequivocally NO LOCKDOWNS.

  125. Arky Avatar
    Arky

    Dotsays:
    August 21, 2021 at 1:57 pm
    *The LDP should*

    Do nothing you specifically request

    ..
    You’re just a voter.
    You don’t matter.
    Didn’t ya know?

  126. Dot Avatar

    Nice Steiner rip there Arky. We all know Montessori is the best kind of schooling though, if we are to have schools at all…

    Hmm..DL dropped the ball with the TURC.

    Was he wrong though? How many indictments came from that?

  127. Cassie of Sydney Avatar
    Cassie of Sydney

    “I can’t handle this level of stupidity and bigotry.”

    I just read it…words fail me.

  128. Dot Avatar

    Sort of correct actually, Arky.

    The LDP is a party, not Parliament.

    I really think Campbell Newman was a bad idea. I can’t even…

  129. miltonf Avatar
    miltonf

    Campbell Newman is part of the problem. Political families.

  130. sfw Avatar
    sfw

    I’m a member of the Vic LDP, not because I’m particularly political but I thought they were trying and a bit more support would help. They’re ok, however they will only take their opposition so far. I pointed out that we can’t comply our way out of this and that there is a huge potential voter base out there for someone brave and strong enough to take a stand against Andrews. That person needs a solid base and resources as well as a public profile, this is an opportunity waiting and if someone decent doesn’t step in then it’s likely some power hungry and possible lunatic may take the chance. I thought that the LDP reps in the Vic upper house should encourage non violent protest, starting with a call for a mass rally on the steps of parliament house. The response I got “we couldn’t do that, it’s against the law”. They are decent men but still think they are dealing with honest brokers, prepared to argue and reason the way out of the mess. They don’t understand that Dan is literally a megalomaniac and there’s no easy way out. I’ll stay a member for the forseeable future but I’m looking for someone with a spine.

  131. Arky Avatar
    Arky

    “The LDP is a party, not Parliament.”
    ..
    I liked your “Get fucked Senator” policy.
    I’m not so sure your “Get fucked voter expressing interest in our party” policy is such a winner.

  132. Tom Avatar
    Tom

    Campbell Newman is part of the problem. Political families.

    No more than Mark Latham is part of the problem — and now looking for a solution that doesn’t include the Stupid.Fucking.Liberals/Liars.

  133. Barking Toad Avatar
    Barking Toad

    If plod estimates 7500 in Brisbane there’s probably 15000

  134. miltonf Avatar
    miltonf

    No more than Mark Latham is part of the problem — and now looking for a solution that doesn’t include the Stupid.Fucking.Liberals/Liars.

    Hmmm after Latham retweeted Hawker, I think u might be right

  135. MatrixTransform Avatar
    MatrixTransform

    Look to strengthen yourself internally and to find a tribe of like minded souls to help you think things through as we accelerate our descent into hell

    I ordered an asbestos suit off eBay this morning

    double-breasted for that extra layer of protection

  136. John H. Avatar
    John H.

    cohenitesays:
    August 21, 2021 at 1:59 pm
    The best approach is to join the LNP and work against the infiltrators.

    The infiltrators you refer to are the rank and file of the LNP. A new member of a large party is just a grunt and that won’t change for years. The LDP is small enough that change and influence is possible. Small parties have had big influences in policy. Sometimes you only need 1-2 votes to swing the house.

  137. cohenite Avatar
    cohenite

    Hmmm after Latham retweeted Hawker, I think u might be right

    Got a link to that? This is all I could find:

    Andrew Retweeted
    Real Mark Latham
    @RealMarkLatham
    ·
    2h
    Those pushing for mandatory vaccinations should understand the terrible trauma this is already causing
    people in NSW, a real mental health issue.
    Making people choose between their job and a medical procedure they don’t want.
    They deserve our compassion, not condemnation.

    https://twitter.com/andrewrdn463?lang=en

  138. cohenite Avatar
    cohenite

    The LDP is small enough that change and influence is possible. Small parties have had big influences in policy. Sometimes you only need 1-2 votes to swing the house.

    Alright, go LDP, or PHON, or SFF

  139. Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Border Closure Avatar
    Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Border Closure

    @ Calli: A certain well known & much revered fondly remembered type of cheese has recently been renamed.

    Does this help?

  140. MatrixTransform Avatar
    MatrixTransform

    rubbery figures

    rubbery bullets

  141. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare Avatar
    Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Armadillo, I don’t know about ‘reporting’ these people but it is worth publicising that people, an awkward name for whom was recently removed from a brand of cheese, are still having large funeral parties when others cannot. Sauce, goose and gander are the relevant terms I think.

    Having attended an internet funeral for a neighbour recently which I would like to have attended in person to support the deceased man’s wife, and seeing only ten members of this large country family able to be present, made your concerns resonate with me.

  142. DrBeauGan Avatar
    DrBeauGan

    more on rubber bullets

    This isn’t about health. It’s about power.

  143. Tintarella di Luna Avatar
    Tintarella di Luna

    @ Calli: A certain well known & much revered fondly remembered type of cheese has recently been renamed.

    Does this help?

    Oh so Armadillo was referring to Cheers people, now I understand.

  144. Zipster Avatar
    Zipster

    See I told you they should have gone in blackface, the police would have provided an escort not fired rubber bullets.

  145. feelthebern Avatar
    feelthebern

    Great to see unmasked NSW plod getting citizens in choke holds @sarc.
    But not MMA style choke holds.
    Yahoos getting drunk at a BBQ style choke holds.
    Whoever the plod who did that put the punter in incredible danger.

  146. MatrixTransform Avatar
    MatrixTransform

    This isn’t about health

    sure it is … high speed ‘medicine’ delivery mechanism

  147. miltonf Avatar
    miltonf

    @Cohenite

    Real Mark Latham Retweeted
    bruce hawker
    @brucehawker2010
    ·
    1h
    As NSW reaches a horrible Australian daily record for Covid cases let’s recall how we got here. An unvaccinated & unmasked driver picked up an aircrew with the Delta variant. But despite warnings
    @GladysB
    Berejiklian’s laws did not require him to be vaccinated nor wear a mask.

  148. calli Avatar
    calli

    Oh, I see.

    Shows you how much the “offensive” word is used. Never occurred to me.

    I was thinking goats cheese = goat herders and letterboxes.

  149. Zipster Avatar
    Zipster

    imho the ballot box is a rigged distraction

  150. calli Avatar
    calli

    Berejiklian’s laws did not require him to be vaccinated nor wear a mask.

    And that would have stopped it…how, exactly?

  151. feelthebern Avatar
    feelthebern

    You have to hand it to the Melbourne protesters.
    Looks like they read up on Alexander’s Companions.
    They went through VicPol’s “elite” like a hot knife through butter.

  152. feelthebern Avatar
    feelthebern

    Berejiklian’s laws did not require him to be vaccinated nor wear a mask

    Err….wasn’t she just following the CMO’s advice?

  153. Dot Avatar

    “Rubber bullets of health” writes itself.

  154. Arky Avatar
    Arky

    imho the ballot box is a rigged distraction

    ..
    Tune up, turn off, drop out.

  155. feelthebern Avatar
    feelthebern

    Why do the police continue to use horses in this way?
    It’s 2021, not 1821.

  156. miltonf Avatar
    miltonf

    And that would have stopped it…how, exactly?

    If it hadn’t been that it would have be something else.

  157. cohenite Avatar
    cohenite

    miltonfsays:
    August 21, 2021 at 3:12 pm

    Latham is opposed to vaccine passports:

    https://www.facebook.com/MarkLathamsOutsiders/

  158. Boambee John Avatar
    Boambee John

    rosiesays:
    August 21, 2021 at 2:02 pm
    Im not looking for a saviour.

    Got one of those already.

    I’m looking for a balance of power brake in the upper house, state and federal.

    All very good, but as soon as there is a threat to the UniParty (end preferential or compulsory voting, stop taxpayer funding of political parties, name your favourite reform), the Liars and Gliberals will vote together to stop it. The balance of power is only effective when the big parties differ irreconcilably on an issue.

  159. Arky Avatar
    Arky

    feelthebernsays:
    August 21, 2021 at 3:26 pm
    Why do the police continue to use horses in this way?

    ..
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G–KmVw1IiQ

  160. feelthebern Avatar
    feelthebern

    When police use rubber bullets & use choke holds from Steven Seagal movies, they shouldn’t be surprised they have lost all respect.

  161. Zipster Avatar
    Zipster

    bugmen apparatchiks are going after excessive energy consumption devices

    California To Ban Gaming Computers

    the expansion of the administrative state is unstoppable

  162. srr Avatar
    srr

    Barking Toadsays:
    August 21, 2021 at 2:26 pm
    If plod estimates 7500 in Brisbane there’s probably 15000

    Likewise News . com called Melbourne’s Anti-Lockdown turnout, “more than a 1000”.
    Yeah, like about 10,000 and more, more than a 1000.

  163. rosie Avatar
    rosie

    Food bank forced to close because queue was too long also in Melbourne

  164. Zipster Avatar
    Zipster

    Err….wasn’t she just following the CMO’s advice?

    unelected bugmen now write advice…er laws er… orders..

  165. feelthebern Avatar
    feelthebern

    Overhead in Melbourne today : Where’s a chicken truck when you need one ? @sarc

  166. feelthebern Avatar
    feelthebern

    Overheard, not overhead.

  167. Zipster Avatar
    Zipster

    the expansion of the administrative state is unstoppable

    When Trump started talking about the swamp, millions of unelected officialsbugmen were deeply offended, they contrived with the help of danegelding billionaires and fascist marxists to never let any curtailment of their power happen ever again.

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