Open Thread – Weekend 21 Aug 2021


The Blind Leading the Blind, Pieter Bruegel the Elder, 1568

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Miss Anthropist
Miss Anthropist
August 21, 2021 1:33 am

Am I first? Nice thread you have happening. Shame if enything happened to it.

Tom
Tom
August 21, 2021 3:27 am

New open fred — great idea!

Tom
Tom
August 21, 2021 4:01 am
Tom
Tom
August 21, 2021 4:02 am
Tom
Tom
August 21, 2021 4:03 am
Tom
Tom
August 21, 2021 4:04 am
Tom
Tom
August 21, 2021 4:06 am
Tom
Tom
August 21, 2021 4:07 am
Tom
Tom
August 21, 2021 4:08 am
Tom
Tom
August 21, 2021 4:09 am
Tom
Tom
August 21, 2021 4:10 am
Tom
Tom
August 21, 2021 4:11 am
Tom
Tom
August 21, 2021 4:13 am
Tom
Tom
August 21, 2021 4:14 am
Tom
Tom
August 21, 2021 4:15 am
Tom
Tom
August 21, 2021 4:16 am
Tom
Tom
August 21, 2021 4:16 am
Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
August 21, 2021 4:30 am

Thank you Tom

feelthebern
feelthebern
August 21, 2021 5:56 am

Oh boy.
Expect another round of the cancel Joe Rogan to begin.
A lot of people don’t know that Megan Murphy was fighting back against Canadian insanity before Jordan Peterson was.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xhBnWGpI7c

feelthebern
feelthebern
August 21, 2021 5:56 am

Another cracking Leak today.

feelthebern
feelthebern
August 21, 2021 6:27 am

It’s 2021 & I agree more with Russell Brand than I do with Peter Dutton.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdjR2r5ty5o

feelthebern
feelthebern
August 21, 2021 6:33 am

Get in your time machine.
Go back to 2004 & tell people that Joe Rogan (who that guy from Fear Factor) & Russell Brand (who that weirdo comedian who looks like he needs a good bath) are speaking up more about your freedoms than most “conservative” politicians.
What a time to be alive.

Cassie of Sydney
August 21, 2021 7:27 am

“feelthebernsays:
August 21, 2021 at 5:56 am
Oh boy.
Expect another round of the cancel Joe Rogan to begin.
A lot of people don’t know that Megan Murphy was fighting back against Canadian insanity before Jordan Peterson was.”

Bern, I’ve been following Murphy for years…..she’s long been one of the my favourite true feminists. She was booted from Twitter for saying that transwomen aren’t women…which they aren’t! Meghan also has a great youtube channel…where she talks to interesting people. She also understands how feminism has lost its way and the importance of free speech.

Cassie of Sydney
August 21, 2021 7:28 am

“It’s 2021 & I agree more with Russell Brand than I do with Peter Dutton.”

Many of us do.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
August 21, 2021 7:31 am

Amazing how they never seem to do this for Extinction stinkies, BLM and aboriginal activists, the country shopper enablers or anything qwerty.

NSW Police order rideshare services into Sydney’s CBD be suspended over protest fears (21 Aug)

Rideshare services into Sydney’s CBD have been suspended as New South Wales Police move to block any attempts to protest against the city’s strict lockdown.

A prohibition notice issued by NSW Police has ordered that all taxis, rideshare and passenger services pause trips into the city centre between 9am and 3pm on Saturday.

More than 1,500 officers have been deployed to prevent, respond and disrupt to any protest activity, according to Central Metropolitan Region Commander Assistant Commissioner Peter Thurtell.

The endless hypocrisy and inconsistency is a big reason why people aren’t listening to you Gladys. You do know that don’t you?

Cassie of Sydney
August 21, 2021 7:44 am

“The endless hypocrisy and inconsistency is a big reason why people aren’t listening to you Gladys. You do know that don’t you?”

Well said BoN and it is why I will never ever vote Liberal again.

rosie
rosie
August 21, 2021 7:50 am

Dr Taylor Marshall posted YouTube update last night saying Cardinal Burke’s condition had improved (shared at Nilk’s) but I can’t find a more up to date media article Cardinal Burke covid condition update

rosie
rosie
August 21, 2021 7:53 am

I shared this with Vic liberal Tim Smith last night and will @ at a few more liberal party mps now 😉

dot shared this at dash cat last night ldp covid policy

rosie
rosie
August 21, 2021 8:06 am

After eighteen months it should be no surprise. We are a nation of giant babies

why isn’t someone else looking after us?

shatterzzz
August 21, 2021 8:09 am

Tom’s toons .. Peter Broelman .. what that about?

Zipster
Zipster
August 21, 2021 8:14 am

More than 1,500 officers have been deployed to prevent, respond and disrupt to any protest activity, according to Central Metropolitan Region Commander Assistant Commissioner Peter Thurtell.

clearly the protestors need to rebrand and go in blackface… they would get a police escort

Eyrie
Eyrie
August 21, 2021 8:16 am

I disagree with the ldp policy. Freedom day should be today.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
August 21, 2021 8:18 am

I don’t know what he’s a carter of but whatever it is his cart is sure full of it.

UK Defence Sec Defends Top General Claiming Taliban ‘Want an Afghanistan Inclusive for All’ (20 Aug)

Britain’s Defence Secretary has defended General Sir Nick Carter, Chief of the Defence Staff, after he claimed that the Taliban are honourable “country boys” who “want an Afghanistan that is inclusive for all”.

To see guys like Gen. Carter and Gen. Milley so obviously off with the fairies doesn’t exactly inspire me with confidence.

rosie
rosie
August 21, 2021 8:19 am
Barking Toad
Barking Toad
August 21, 2021 8:33 am

Thanks Tom.
And here was me scratchin’ round on the ole fred wondering – WTF?

Boambee John
Boambee John
August 21, 2021 8:46 am

Cassie of Sydneysays:
August 21, 2021 at 7:44 am
“The endless hypocrisy and inconsistency is a big reason why people aren’t listening to you Gladys. You do know that don’t you?”

Well said BoN and it is why I will never ever vote Liberal again.

They have made their bed, now let them sleep in it.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
August 21, 2021 8:46 am

Thanks Tom.

Younger brother in Melbin reckons that colossal fuckstick is looking to put all of Victoria under the hammer as soon as he can.

He’s escaping to the country this morning.

Boambee John
Boambee John
August 21, 2021 8:49 am

Dot

Not sure if there is such a process, but is it possible for the Lib Dems to be renamed as the Liberty and Democracy Party? This would keep the LDP initials, but distance them from the stink clinging to the word “Liberal”?

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
August 21, 2021 8:53 am

Maybe I should have had a look at the paper before the earlier comment. The Hun:

Regional Victoria is set to be plunged back into lockdown and Melbourne’s 5.1 million residents are facing a new round of harsher restrictions.

Crossie
Crossie
August 21, 2021 8:53 am

Tom, gratitude for the toons. Leak best of this morning’s offerings and even Ramirez was funny for once.

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
August 21, 2021 8:53 am

I shared this with Vic liberal Tim Smith last night and will @ at a few more liberal party mps now ?

dot shared this at dash cat last night ldp covid policy

Policy pretty good except for one glaring omission — what about treatments and prophylactics and the egregious invasion of the doctor/patient privacy and privilege?

Mater
August 21, 2021 8:53 am

Younger brother in Melbin reckons that colossal fuckstick is looking to put all of Victoria under the hammer as soon as he can.

It seems all regional school kids were told to take all books home yesterday afternoon.
Mine were, and so were Farmer Gez’s.
All regional sports were told to cancel competition this morning.

It’s on.

Cassie of Sydney
August 21, 2021 8:55 am

They have made their bed, now let them sleep in it.”

Yep.

rosie
rosie
August 21, 2021 8:59 am

I dunno Tinta, because political parties leave the authorising of approved medical treatments to those delegated to do so?

I see zero value in a political policy getting into what treatments should or shouldn’t be used in hospitals.

Crossie
Crossie
August 21, 2021 9:00 am

feelthebern says:
August 21, 2021 at 6:27 am
It’s 2021 & I agree more with Russell Brand than I do with Peter Dutton.

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I went from reading the Economist and the Atlantic online in 1998 to Spectator and Quadrant fifteen years later to Russell Brand. Brand is still a frootloop about a lot of things but at least he is brave enough to go against the grain. It does help that he has the money not to care if he is othered.

Quite disconcerting was watching the Economist go down the drain.

Crossie
Crossie
August 21, 2021 9:02 am

Knuckle Dragger says:
August 21, 2021 at 8:53 am
Maybe I should have had a look at the paper before the earlier comment. The Hun:

Regional Victoria is set to be plunged back into lockdown and Melbourne’s 5.1 million residents are facing a new round of harsher restrictions.

—————–

Talidan simply will not allow Gladys to overtake him in dictator stakes.

rosie
rosie
August 21, 2021 9:04 am

I hate Dan.

I spent hours last night rereading the stupid lockdown guidelines and worrying about something we plan to do.

Did you know leaving the house to buy stuff is one person once per day?

If you bought groceries in the morning you can’t pick up your fish and chips at 6.

If I go and provide child care can I walk baby up for a coffee and also buy groceries on the way home? It seems not.

And now he wants to tighten?

Just stop it.

hzhousewife
hzhousewife
August 21, 2021 9:07 am

I still cannot get my head around what possible benefit it could be to smash the bottom two thirds of the economy of the whole country.
Sun is shining here, time to sow the first few rows of radish and beetroot, and watch the blue wrens flit about.

feelthebern
feelthebern
August 21, 2021 9:08 am

Politico column on the Afghanistan cluster you know what.

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2021/08/20/biden-afghanistan-kabul-chaos-taliban-evacuation-505600

I’m not sure if they’re trying to cover for Biden or explain away parts of it.
Clearly an army of sub editors have butchered it.
Bottom line, you can’t put your finger in a dyke when the whole dam has broken.

Cassie of Sydney
August 21, 2021 9:09 am

“I went from reading the Economist and the Atlantic online in 1998 to Spectator and Quadrant fifteen years later to Russell Brand. Brand is still a frootloop about a lot of things but at least he is brave enough to go against the grain. It does help that he has the money not to care if he is othered.

Quite disconcerting was watching the Economist go down the drain.”

My story too…..I suspect there are many here who would concur.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
August 21, 2021 9:10 am

Seventy-eight ‘thoughts’ on your first post, Cassie, the most so far on this New Catallaxy.
More even than Professor Bunyip.
That’s impressive. Keep it up.

ps. hope the special one is feeling better today. Shame about hospital food and that you can’t take him in some of your chicken soup. I’m sure you’ve got a recipe for that somewhere. 🙂

feelthebern
feelthebern
August 21, 2021 9:12 am

The NSW Libtards are already trying the narrative on:
By summer, NSW will be Florida/Texas while Victoria is New York.

Bull shit.
By summer, NSW will be NY 2021 while Victoria will be NY 2020.

Zipster
Zipster
August 21, 2021 9:12 am

Quite disconcerting was watching the Economist go down the drain.

it’s the rise of the groupthink woke zombie class

limiting what people can say seems to limit what they can think

just check out the comments on smh. masses of scarred little sheeple

hzhousewife
hzhousewife
August 21, 2021 9:14 am

And….. best YouTube of the week was Jordan Peterson interview titled The Four Do’s and Dont’s of Divorce – it’s NOT really about divorce, a lot about education, men’s wellness etc, really worthwhile and affirming. Recommended for all young persons planning a life path.

Tom
Tom
August 21, 2021 9:14 am

The woke morons who run the Australian Press Council think this excellent 2020 Johannes Leak cartoon lampooning Joe Biden and Kamala Harris using Biden’s own words in a tweet is waaaaaaaaacist because unnamed leftard petals (whose identity the APC protects) complained about it.

In today’s Paywallian, Chris Kenny rails against yet another institution designed to protect freedom of speech that is instead trying to shut it down.

The APC should be bulldozed into the sea.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
August 21, 2021 9:16 am

“Bottom line, you can’t put your finger in a dyke when the whole dam has broken.”

Someone should tell Gladys.

Sadly ScoMo is determined to stand behind her to keep wrecking the economy and peoples’ lives in order to prove that she/he can knock the flood back a bit. So many people are so fed up with that approach. He has rocks in his head supporting her in this. Mass disobedience is beginning to show. If he continues beyond September 30 sparks will really fly. Powder-keg stuff.

Cassie of Sydney
August 21, 2021 9:17 am

“The APC should be bulldozed into the sea.”

Isn’t membership voluntary? Why does News Corp bother signing up to the APC?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
August 21, 2021 9:18 am

Looks like New York City is about to be hammered.

Henri is the storm we have feared for decades (20 Aug)

Joe Bastardi has the track hitting west of where Accuweather has it. If he’s right it’ll slam Manhattan just about bang on. ETA is Monday.

The climate activists will be howling like hyenas. Some are already blaming the Afghanistan fiasco on global warming.

Cassie of Sydney
August 21, 2021 9:19 am

“Seventy-eight ‘thoughts’ on your first post, Cassie, the most so far on this New Catallaxy.
More even than Professor Bunyip.
That’s impressive. Keep it up.”

Thanks Lizzie….I would like to post more threads…if Doomlord DB agrees.

What depresses me most about my man being in hospital is that I can’t visit him.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
August 21, 2021 9:19 am

“The NSW Libtards are already trying the narrative on:
By summer, NSW will be Florida/Texas while Victoria is New York.”

Conveniently forgetting about Britain.

rosie
rosie
August 21, 2021 9:20 am

I think you are right ftb.

Dan thinks he has covid eradication super powers.

If he’s still around after the next election my sister and I are moving.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
August 21, 2021 9:26 am

AZ, used in Britain, seems to have a longer level of immunity than Pfizer/Moderna, the ones mostly used in the USA. Regardless, hospitals can only continue to cope if there is a strong economy left to pay health systems to open up more beds if necessary. This virus is not going to be ‘defeated’ by continual lockdowns but it can recede into a background health issue as herd immunity mounts. People will make their own judgements re self-protection.. New and better vaxxes will take care of new variants.

feelthebern
feelthebern
August 21, 2021 9:26 am

A friend in NY told me last night that post the axe attack in the financial district, the NYPD presence is notably up in the area.

rosie
rosie
August 21, 2021 9:26 am

Not sure if this will workcomment image

feelthebern
feelthebern
August 21, 2021 9:29 am

People should take the Oxford study into AZ with a grain of salt considering they get a royalty from every single jab.
Similar to Pfizer releasing a report saying their vax is best.

rosie
rosie
August 21, 2021 9:30 am

Hat tip, the colonel at discord

speaks of new vaxxs

rosie
rosie
August 21, 2021 9:34 am

Obviously the best idea really is to get gigavaxxed

feelthebern
feelthebern
August 21, 2021 9:39 am

My modern military tactics knowledge is zero.
But why would you abandon Bagram airbase?
Even if you were retarded enough to think your embassy in Kabul would remain.
Shouldn’t Bagram been the place/deterrent that was the last gateway out of the country ?

rosie
rosie
August 21, 2021 9:40 am

lol

Boambee John
Boambee John
August 21, 2021 9:42 am

rosiesays:
August 21, 2021 at 8:59 am
I dunno Tinta, because political parties leave the authorising of approved medical treatments to those delegated to do so?

I see zero value in a political policy getting into what treatments should or shouldn’t be used in hospitals.

Indeed, however, there has already been such political intervention, getting back to reality requires another to negate the first.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
August 21, 2021 9:43 am

BoN @ 8:18;

Britain’s Defence Secretary has defended General Sir Nick Carter, Chief of the Defence Staff, after he claimed that the Taliban are honourable “country boys” who “want an Afghanistan that is inclusive for all”.

Which begs the question, why has the British military been shooting and bombing these fine fellows, instead of reaching out to them to bring peace and harmony to the troubled land?

Invincible stupid.

Vagabond
Vagabond
August 21, 2021 9:49 am

Here’s a video that needs to go viral
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpfp0t9Vjb0

rosie
rosie
August 21, 2021 9:50 am

The ldp need to reach as many people as possible.

Getting into the details of medical treatments is both superfluous and counter-productive. Most people aren’t interested in does invermectin work?

rosie
rosie
August 21, 2021 9:51 am
Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
August 21, 2021 9:51 am

Shouldn’t Bagram been the place/deterrent that was the last gateway out of the country ?

Bagram, and anywhere around it in SAM range. Had a schoolmate flying with the RAF on exchange shot down after takeoff in Iraq that way some years ago.

rosie
rosie
August 21, 2021 10:02 am
rosie
rosie
August 21, 2021 10:04 am

And Steven Waterson behind the paywall.

Drax
Drax
August 21, 2021 10:09 am

rosie says:
August 21, 2021 at 7:53 am
I shared this with Vic liberal Tim Smith last night and will @ at a few more liberal party mps now ?

dot shared this at dash cat last night ldp covid policy

How about an amendment to our PW constitution to block States from closing their borders? This was clearly the intent of those who drew it up.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
August 21, 2021 10:20 am

Peter Horowitz Caroline Di Russo on stairmandan

Wow, a few tweets further down is this one:

Dave Hughes @DHughesy
There’s a reasonable chance the collective political leadership of Australia has now jumped the Shark.
4:08 PM · Aug 20, 2021

If a lefty of such pure water is saying this then Gladys and Dan are hitting a level rarely seen outside of Norkistan.

(In checking backstory I was amused to find Hughesy in Media Watch Dog 21 Aug 2020, exactly one year ago, praising Dan Andrews fulsomely. 🙂 )

cohenite
August 21, 2021 10:24 am

Thanks Tom; in a tight group I thought this was the best:

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Arky
August 21, 2021 10:44 am

Morning, wanker cats.

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
August 21, 2021 10:57 am

That Steven Waterson piece (Face it, our freedoms will never be returned until we learn to obey) in The Oz is an an absolute cracker.

A couple of examples:
The madness toggles between sinister and comical. Especially hilarious are the comedy stylings of the bullying dolt who is turning Victoria into a post-apocalyptic wasteland

Sure, a few more weeks of lockdown is bearable if you have a secure job, a pretty garden, a good library and a well-stocked wine cellar; but it’s a very different experience if you’re on the 10th floor of a grim apartment block with three young kids and have just lost your weekly pay cheque

Where do these buffoons find the audacity to tell us they’re “angry”, “disgusted” or “disappointed” with the citizens of their state, or country? If you think, premiers, that it’s appropriate to address your paymasters with that kind of supercilious, patronising language you have a profoundly flawed understanding of your relationship to the electorate..

Very well written by Waterson, with much passion and unerring accuracy against the totalitarian state we have become.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
August 21, 2021 10:59 am

Aaaaand there we go.

Regional Vicco in lockdown as well from 1.00 p.m.

Handsy Dan:

‘This is not a choice. We have to follow the advice.’

Make a decision, you snivelling coward. Stop deflecting. The CHO is not the Premier. If it’s your lockdown, say so.

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
August 21, 2021 10:59 am

Morning, wanker Arky.
How’s the hunched back today?

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
August 21, 2021 11:02 am

I dunno Tinta, because political parties leave the authorising of approved medical treatments to those delegated to do so?

I see zero value in a political policy getting into what treatments should or shouldn’t be used in hospitals.

No they don’t — that albino cane toad in Queensland legislated to prohibit doctors prescribing certain drugs as treatment for COVID. Of course political parties should/shouldn’t be interfering with treatments but they are aren’t they?

Zipster
Zipster
August 21, 2021 11:02 am
Shy Ted
Shy Ted
August 21, 2021 11:04 am

WTF is this part of the LDP policy> – Improve the nation’s quarantine capacity. Effective and efficient quarantine facilities should have been established as soon as travel restrictions were imposed (or earlier). Facilities need immediate improvement, both for the benefit of Australians returning from overseas now and in preparation for future pandemics.
They’re pulling cases out of thin air based on a disproven test and are already building “quarantine facilities” which are clearly prisons by any other name and no one who goes into them will be sick in any meaningful way otherwise they’d be in hospital.
Very perceptive comment, Tintarella.
LDP, bunch of bloody amateurs.

Zipster
Zipster
August 21, 2021 11:13 am

Where do these buffoons find the audacity to tell us they’re “angry”, “disgusted” or “disappointed” with the citizens of their state, or country? If you think, premiers, that it’s appropriate to address your paymasters with that kind of supercilious, patronising language you have a profoundly flawed understanding of your relationship to the electorate..

What are you talking about, the bugmen class are born to rule!

rosie
rosie
August 21, 2021 11:15 am

Right now the ldp need to get a solid voter base.

And we need to end lockdowns

Medical treatments for covid are not a core issue.

Why make things more difficult than they already are to get some traction away from the lockdown mentality?

Tom
Tom
August 21, 2021 11:18 am

Face it, our freedoms will never be returned until we learn to obey
The madness toggles between sinister and comical. Especially hilarious are the comedy stylings of the bullying dolt who is turning Victoria into a post-apocalyptic wasteland. But this is blackmail, not leadership.
By STEVE WATERSON
It’s tedious for the youngsters, I know, but we of more advanced years love to reminisce about the olden days, when nobody was permitted to shirk from home and we had to try a little harder to get ahead. You’d put in the hours and a dab of sycophancy to climb the corporate ladder; even career criminals had to work their way up from petty crime to probation to a spell in prison.
We have it much easier these days: just ask Trong Duc Nguyen, the 31-year-old Cabramatta man who has gone straight to jail for two months after committing the hitherto unknown crime of travelling by train and bus from Sydney to Tenterfield. Small mercies, though; at least he didn’t travel the other way then write a mawkish song about it in New York.
Trong’s punishment this week for breaching a public health order was entirely reasonable, according to police, who said “it indicates the level of seriousness of the matter”. Lucky for Trong he didn’t have the virus. I may be mistaken, but I think that might carry the death penalty up Armidale way.
Enjoy this taste of what awaits us as the police state tightens its grip on our liberties. To drive home the seriousness of “doing the wrong thing”, the NSW Police Commissioner decided on-the-spot fines for health disobedience needed to be bumped up to $5000.
My sense is that $1000 was already enough to put people off going without their masks, but I suppose if you’re on $649,500 a year it does seem like a trifling sum. Doing the wrong thing isn’t a problem for his officers, however: “We have to shape the behaviour of people,” he told them in a recent video. “If you write a ticket and get it wrong,” he added, “I won’t hold you to account for that.”
Two weeks ago I watched people having their behaviour shaped at Bondi, as two mounted police rode their large horses south along the middle of the beach, stopping at the towels of two young mothers and their four toddlers, tiny beside the horses’ hoofs, to order them to pack up buckets and spades and leave the beach. Thanks for keeping us safe.
The madness toggles between sinister and comical. Especially hilarious are the comedy stylings of the bullying dolt who is turning Victoria into a post-apocalyptic wasteland: it’s acceptable to remove your useless mask to drink coffee on the street, he declares, but an offence to do so to drink alcohol. It must be excruciating for black-clad Melburnians, paralysed indecision warming their espresso martinis.
Victoria’s Health Minister, not to be outdone as a stand-up comedian, alerted citizens to a prostitute’s positive test. “If you have employed a sex worker in the St Kilda area,” he said on Wednesday, “you need to come forward and get tested.” Employed? What, to do some gardening? Imagine the negotiation: “I don’t mind mowing, but it’ll be an extra $50 if you want full weeding.”
NSW, once a dim glimmer of common sense, has fully embraced the lunacy, the Premier’s magical crystal ball (remember, the one that promised our two-week confinement would end on July 9) now recalibrating its predictions to say we’ll be freed on September 30. Oh, and let’s throw in an added curfew for the troublesome, recalcitrant westies; and an outdoor mask mandate to make sure everyone in the state, from Broken Hill to Ballina, Bourke to Bega, feels stupid and miserable (and coincidentally can be recognised as a renegade at long range by the fine-happy police).
Evidence worldwide shows the lockdown rules are nonsensical; curfews even more so, despite the Victorian Premier’s insistence that their value is “simply not up for debate”, which is presumably what he considers a more sophisticated version of “because I say so”.
Then he, his interstate counterparts and their bloated public sector cheer squads seek to dignify their incoherent ramblings with words like “strategy” and “policy”, picked up in some Management for Dummies handbook.
Sure, a few more weeks of lockdown is bearable if you have a secure job, a pretty garden, a good library and a well-stocked wine cellar; but it’s a very different experience if you’re on the 10th floor of a grim apartment block with three young kids and have just lost your weekly pay cheque.
Perhaps we could equalise the pain with what we might call “personal lockdown”. When I’m trapped in my house I have no idea what my neighbours across the road are up to, and I’m protected from their disease-ridden lungs because they’re not allowed to enter my home, cough over my food or wipe their runny noses on my handkerchief.
By the same token, it doesn’t affect me if they’re blithely eating from share plates in a restaurant or getting drunk with dodgy new friends in a crowded bar. More fool them if they want to risk infection.
So if you genuinely believe lockdown is the best way to ensure you live to relish another moody Scandinavian crime drama, don’t feel threatened by the idea of the country opening up. You are at perfect liberty to design and pitilessly enforce a bespoke lockdown for yourself and your dependants; set your imagination free and make it the most watertight since Alcatraz. Put the appropriate warning signs on your home – arm yourself if necessary – and your withdrawal from society would be respected, even welcomed. But leave the rest of us out of it.
Instead, we’re punished as though we were still in the classroom (unlike our schoolchildren), all in detention because one of the naughty pupils broke the rules; or worse, thanked and praised for “doing the right thing”, as though these idiots are capable of determining the difference between right and wrong. Just because they or their intellectually challenged health bureaucrats say something’s true, or (even less credibly) morally correct, doesn’t make it so.
Where do these buffoons find the audacity to tell us they’re “angry”, “disgusted” or “disappointed” with the citizens of their state, or country? If you think, premiers, that it’s appropriate to address your paymasters with that kind of supercilious, patronising language you have a profoundly flawed understanding of your relationship to the electorate.
There we are, worse off than when all the hysteria began, a risible counterweight to the return to normality spreading all over the world, slumped into a manufactured psychosis. Picture: Mark Stewart
We’re urged to get vaccinated as the only way out of this nightmare, as though the restrictions were imposed by some external enemy, while what’s really happening is that our leaders create this misery, steal our freedoms, then command us to obey their orders in order to regain them. We used to call this blackmail. Let’s get vaccinated if we are satisfied it will protect us from severe disease, but understand that’s the main reason for doing so, not to gratify and exculpate these petty dictators. It appears you will still be able to catch and transmit the virus, so leave the unvaccinated to their own devices.
Set a firm date for opening and make sure everyone who wants one can get the injection.
The amount of mental and physical energy wasted so far on this 18-month exercise is astounding, not to mention the truly astonishing financial cost, $350 billion (that we know of) and counting, and nothing to show for it.
A baby born here today picks up a $30,000 tab as a joining fee. Welcome to Australia, kid!
Many of us are witnessing the mental distress and deterioration of young adults, robbed now of almost two of the best years of their lives. The unalloyed joy of Friday and Saturday nights in your early 20s, the ridiculous, stimulating, fleeting friendships, the parties, adventures and triumphs; the first tentative steps towards a career, learning how to work with and appreciate colleagues; the lessons and mistakes that prepare you for the bigger challenges of the wide world; all are stripped from these fledgling lives in service of a vain, inane quest to master nature and eliminate a “deadly” virus that spares more than 99 per cent of its victims (and that’s making the preposterous assumption that the number of asymptomatic “cases” isn’t far higher than we know).
In China, the man in the street still knows nothing about the 1989 Tiananmen Square massacre, and we haughtily condemn the Communist government for that evil cover-up; but our own governments are consulting the same playbook. We are not trusted to know what health advice or other research informs the decisions (I use the term as loosely as possible) our leaders make; everything is “cabinet in confidence”, even the minutes of the “national cabinet”, which isn’t a cabinet at all.
We have been leaked some of the figures, cynically suppressed by government, that quantify this mental-health disaster; and beside it the loss of a fairly small number of sick, elderly people is sad but insignificant. The increase in children’s depression, the growth of suicidal thoughts and acts, the self-harm, the eating disorders, the retreat into isolation and despair, the loneliness imposed on those who should be operating at maximum gregariousness and engagement, is wicked. There are many youthful rites of passage that you can’t just repeat a couple of years later: miss the school formal, the gap year, the overseas university exchange and they’re gone for ever.
Even more destructive, but less visible, is the impact on those who should have started school, but have missed the first couple of years of learning how to get along with their peers, particularly those not blessed with parents who acknowledge the value of education.
Unsocialised and unlettered, will they be accommodated when school returns, or abandoned? We thought child sacrifices died out with the Aztecs, but apparently not. Let’s hope they bring good rains, if not an end to the pandemic.
Towards the far outpost of life’s journey, we all know old people whose main treasure and delight in life is their family, and the precious contact they have previously taken for granted, as have all the generations before them. They’re not able to distract themselves with an hour’s vigorous exercise, and there’s little consolation when your hand’s on the exit door to be told things will be back to normal in a year or so. Some don’t have that year up their sleeve, and it’s an act of unspeakable cruelty to prevent them from spending their last days exactly as they want.
We have been leaked some of the figures, cynically suppressed by government, that quantify this mental-health disaster; and beside it the loss of a fairly small number of sick, elderly people is sad but insignificant.
It may not be our governments’ intention to cause this damage, but it might as well be; just as it may not be their intention to destroy small business and impoverish one of the most productive sectors of society. It will be interesting to see if desperate protesters resurface this weekend to hurl themselves against the “wave of blue” the NSW Police Minister has smugly promised will meet them; there will surely come a point when people robbed of their livelihoods will have literally nothing left to lose.
So here we are, worse off than when all the hysteria began, a risible counterweight to the return to normality spreading all over the world, slumped into a manufactured psychosis. Australians are being deliberately and methodically terrified, while enforced isolation weakens our resilience.
It renders us more susceptible to the howls of panic, unchallenged by normal debate and conversation, forbidden to meet, discuss or express our disagreement.
We are turning on each other like medieval city states, while our basic human decency dissolves into brawls over toilet paper.
In 1653 Oliver Cromwell dismissed England’s corrupt and incompetent Rump Parliament with the words: “In the name of God, go!” A pity he’s not around today to remove the arses who polish the benches of our own parliaments.
Link.

feelthebern
feelthebern
August 21, 2021 11:18 am

Here’s something for those associated with the LDP.
How about making all travel & quarantine exemptions public?
Since the start of 2020.
This would be a great way to differentiate yourselves from PHON.
PHON ran dead on the issue at every election since the start of COVID because the red headed one & her inner circle didn’t mind being the beneficiaries of exemptions.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
August 21, 2021 11:19 am

BTW, has any of this advice been made publicly available, or is it a skirt the Premier hides behind?

If I may, this is an extremely good point. I too would appreciate the opportunity to see this ‘advice’.

It’s already been established that the goings-on in the National Cabinet are not sacrosant. Why would it be the case for lesser bodies in the Sates and Territories?

feelthebern
feelthebern
August 21, 2021 11:22 am

If the LDP ran on that issue alone (the exemptions list), it would set them apart from every political party in Australia.
It would carve off a lot of votes from people who would be going “Why Dan/Gladys/ScoMo/Pauline won’t you back making the exception list public”.
It would be political poison for that retard in South Australia who granted himself an exemption so he could fly interstate to see his son graduate from uni.

Woolfe
Woolfe
August 21, 2021 11:23 am

Hi Arky

rosie
rosie
August 21, 2021 11:23 am
feelthebern
feelthebern
August 21, 2021 11:25 am

Watching Pauline flap about why she wouldn’t support making the exemptions list public would be quite humorous.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
August 21, 2021 11:25 am

Waterson’s last few pieces have been gold.

This bit, in a piece where every word spoke volumes, stood out as well:

We’re urged to get vaccinated as the only way out of this nightmare, as though the restrictions were imposed by some external enemy, while what’s really happening is that our leaders create this misery, steal our freedoms, then command us to obey their orders in order to regain them.

We used to call this blackmail.

Armadillo
Armadillo
August 21, 2021 11:26 am

I’m not particularly proud of myself, Cats. I just dobbed in some fellow citizens for what I believe to be a breach of COVID restrictions.

Allow me to explain my actions. I just called into a local shopping centre to get essential supplies (booze and tobacco). Whilst there, I noticed four “Thrifty Rental” type buses. Two out the front, two out the back. On entering the premises, it was full of “Cheese People” buying snacks and slabs of beer.

I have seen this at this particular supermarket before the restrictions came into force. It’s generally the “pick up point” for the local cheese people when heading to a funeral out west. The local ALC pays them a daily allowance whilst they go out there for a few days, and arranges free transportation.

For the life of me, I can’t think of any other reason a heap of cheese people would all be travelling by mini bus. There was about 30 odd people that I saw. What possible reason/exemption could they have to travel?

Here’s the thing. I attended a “virtual funeral” on Wednesday. Limited to 10 people. Her own son couldn’t attend because he is locked down in Canberra.

It made my blood boil, so I became a “dibber dobber”. Am I a bad person?

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
August 21, 2021 11:31 am

Blackmail is (apparently) defined in Victoria’s Crimes Act 1958 as ‘an unwarranted demand, with menaces.’

It is said by some that this definition has been strongly substantiated over time in the higher courts.

It is, for this appalling state of affairs, perfect.

rosie
rosie
August 21, 2021 11:31 am

Don’t worry Dillo, there won’t be any $5500 fines.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
August 21, 2021 11:32 am

To outdoor pursuits today.

I will opine on this further, for what it’s worth, later tonight.

feelthebern
feelthebern
August 21, 2021 11:33 am

Finally, if the LDP doesn’t support such a good, transparent policy which would also be political gold for the entire campaign they are going into, the question is why not?
How many of the LDP backers, decision makers also participated in the scams & rorts that went on?

Arky
August 21, 2021 11:38 am

“I became a “dibber dobber”. Am I a bad person?”
..
Yes.
You just used the power of the state, a state that is currently destroying all our lives, in order to stick your nose in something you knew nothing about.
But you’ve always been a prick, so I’m not surprised.

calli
calli
August 21, 2021 11:38 am

What’s a cheese person?

Are they related to the cheesemakers?

Armadillo
Armadillo
August 21, 2021 11:43 am

But you’ve always been a prick, so I’m not surprised.

I thought this site had an anti-doxing policy? It appears I’ve been lied to.

Zipster
Zipster
August 21, 2021 11:45 am

“We have to shape the behaviour of people,”

A true bugmen speaketh!

Every smart phone, every PC will soon be the eyes and ear of Big Brother Bugmen.

Zipster
Zipster
August 21, 2021 11:58 am

Reading through the twitter cesspol of bugmen, is depressing reading. A locust plague of sheeple baying for the blood of non-conformists.

Seems only a few little stray cat blogs form the epicentre of freedom and liberty in this country.

cohenite
August 21, 2021 12:00 pm

It made my blood boil, so I became a “dibber dobber”. Am I a bad person?

Only if you root wombats; bad people root wombats.

miltonf
miltonf
August 21, 2021 12:09 pm

It would be political poison for that retard in South Australia who granted himself an exemption so he could fly interstate to see his son graduate from uni.
which one? Birmingham is the only one that comes to mind.

PHON ran dead on the issue at every election since the start of COVID because the red headed one & her inner circle didn’t mind being the beneficiaries of exemptions.

I didn’t know that. Very disappointing.

cohenite
August 21, 2021 12:12 pm

PHON ran dead on the issue at every election since the start of COVID because the red headed one & her inner circle didn’t mind being the beneficiaries of exemptions.

Latham didn’t; neither did Roberts.

I didn’t know that. Very disappointing.

You didn’t know it because it didn’t happen; so don’t be disappointed. Be happy, the chunks are running the world!

areff
areff
August 21, 2021 12:12 pm

What’s a cheese person?

You flew here, we gruyere

miltonf
miltonf
August 21, 2021 12:17 pm

Thanks Cohenite- so I was being bullshitted.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
August 21, 2021 12:26 pm

Right now the ldp need to get a solid voter base.

I will not be voting for them. After the SSM stupidity it became entirely clear where their hearts were.

You cannot have a party with some lefty policies and some righty policies. It will immediately go left via Conquest’s 2nd Law. The Australian Democrats are the forerunner: they had a similar approach under Don Chipp, but were indistinguishable from the Greens when they finally expired.

There is no centre any more. The Left has destroyed it utterly.

DL needs to push his media career like Bernardi and give the pie-in-the-sky politics away. Righties won’t vote for a SSM-loving party and Lefties already have a whole bunch of alternatives, so they won’t ever vote for the LDP either. Give it away chaps, and find something else more productive to do with your time.

miltonf
miltonf
August 21, 2021 12:32 pm

One thing I know about the LDP is that lyin’hole was a hopeless senator.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
August 21, 2021 12:34 pm

Good call BoN.

Our options now are centre-left, left then fucking loony (greens)

Professor Higgins
Professor Higgins
August 21, 2021 12:35 pm

areffsays:

August 21, 2021 at 12:12 pm

What’s a cheese person?

You flew here, we gruyere

Frankly, m’dear, I don’t give edam.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
August 21, 2021 12:41 pm

Where do these buffoons find the audacity to tell us they’re “angry”, “disgusted” or “disappointed” with the citizens of their state, or country?

It comes from within; they are just saying exactly what they feel.

Our political leaders are so massively invested in the all care, no responsibility ‘Zero Case’ strategy that any opposition to the CMO advice du jour is an existential threat to their careers.

Cannot be tolerated.

cohenite
August 21, 2021 12:45 pm

Frankly, m’dear, I don’t give edam.

Gouda one.

rosie
rosie
August 21, 2021 12:56 pm

Thats right BoN

Never ever hold your nose.

Purity or nothing!

rosie
rosie
August 21, 2021 1:04 pm
rosie
rosie
August 21, 2021 1:07 pm
Zipster
Zipster
August 21, 2021 1:07 pm
calli
calli
August 21, 2021 1:08 pm

Thanks guys. No light was shed, but plenty of yuk yuks.

Armidale clearly isn’t the place for rule-breakers. Just as well I escaped when I did.

But, oh…Boo Books. What a find!

rosie
rosie
August 21, 2021 1:09 pm
Zipster
Zipster
August 21, 2021 1:10 pm
Cassie of Sydney
August 21, 2021 1:15 pm

“Bruce of Newcastlesays:
August 21, 2021 at 12:26 pm”

So what do we BoN? Do we just give up? Whilst I agree the Lib Dems aren’t perfect, no party is….however the current Liberal party and the scum that infect it have completely walked away from any kind of Menzian tradition….the party isn’t interested in small government, in individual liberty, in small and medium sized businesses, in religious freedom or in free speech.

Arky
August 21, 2021 1:19 pm

“Whilst I agree the Lib Dems aren’t perfect, no party is”
..
Open borders, drug fiends, buggery, globalist “free trading” with the world’s worst regimes…
This isn’t the party you’re looking for.
Look, we’re screwed. Just sit back, relax and enjoy the ride.

Cassie of Sydney
August 21, 2021 1:20 pm

And you know what….the only credible opposition in Victoria to the Talidan is coming from David Limbrick. The Liberals are missing in action….as always.

Arky
August 21, 2021 1:21 pm

Stop trying to find somebody to vote for to save us.
There isn’t going to be anybody.
Look to strengthen yourself internally and to find a tribe of like minded souls to help you think things through as we accelerate our descent into hell.

Arky
August 21, 2021 1:26 pm

“This is your captain speaking. We are now starting our descent into hell. The weather in hell is a balmy 2000 degrees. Thank you for flying arsehole airways. Your cabin staff will now come around with molten face clothes to burn your faces off”.

Arky
August 21, 2021 1:30 pm

[plane banks over]
:Gasp:
“Gee, the skyline of Hell is really stunning silhouetted against the red glow of screaming, burning souls.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
August 21, 2021 1:30 pm

Thats right BoN
Never ever hold your nose.
Purity or nothing!

Rosie – Peg on nose I voted PHON for the first time in my life last Federal election, despite their lefty Tobin tax brain fumes. I did so at the last minute because there was no one else, because the guy was a tradie drafted in at the last minute, and because otherwise I’d have to colour in all the boxes like I did in the last state election (which despite exhausting in the LA there was no one at all that I could vote for, not even holding my nose). It turned out well – Joel had a total brain explosion and has been giving the Liars a hard time ever since!

Hopefully the Biden/EU/ALP fiascos (Albo is looking chipper and is squeaking “climate, climate” this week) will cause a reaction from the voters around the world and they will learn that lefty parties lie continually, and should be booted from the polity. But I’m not hopeful.

calli
calli
August 21, 2021 1:32 pm

To illustrate Arky’s point.

Zipster
Zipster
August 21, 2021 1:35 pm
Helen
Helen
August 21, 2021 1:37 pm

I think it was on another cat, – Adam’s – where someone said vaccinate (force?) the over 50’s and let the rest rip. I sincerely hope this was a typo and it was meant to (offer) the vaccination to the 50 plus bracket.

If it was intentional that over 50 should be vaccinated (by force or shame – both are the same in my book) – I am over 50 and I will not be vaccinated. How dare I be lectured to from some self perceived high moral ground of the vaccinated what I must/must not do.

This is a medical apartheid that is creeping in where the vaccinated would have benefits the non-vaccinated do not, including lecturing and hectoring as well as shopping for food or attending school.

In New York that means 70% of the black population who are not and are unlikely to be vaccinated, will be denied entry to such basic places of sustenance as supermarkets through not having a covid passport.

Dot
Dot
August 21, 2021 1:46 pm

Might come here instead.

Some lunatic fringe reader of Kangaroo Court is insisting not only are all Catholics accused of child abuse guilty, but the rate of abuse is possibly orders of magnitude worse than conviction rates because…without evidence…”I bet that police will agree with me” accusations are ten times the number of cases referred to the DPP.

I can’t handle this level of stupidity and bigotry.

Someone is not familiar with the outright legalised perjury allowed in Family Law.

rosie
rosie
August 21, 2021 1:51 pm

No one dared say force or shame for over 50s.

You are arguing with a straw man.

It was me and I said the target should only have been 70 percent of over 50s which is close to bring achieved and let it rip.

Not the government’s 70 percent of eligible people (over 16)

Dot
Dot
August 21, 2021 1:54 pm

*One thing I know about the LDP is that lyin’hole was a hopeless senator.*

Nope, he was pretty good, he got decent airtime on ABC and FTA & The Australian continually lied about him.

The Australian being the paper supporting the Berejiklian regime.

rosie
rosie
August 21, 2021 1:56 pm

Just read that dot.

Considering that vicpol zealously prosecuted at least two innocent Catholic clergy on the say so of two fabulists yeah sure.

I bet nobody else say boo.

Dot
Dot
August 21, 2021 1:57 pm

*The LDP should*

Do nothing you specifically request as a personal favour until you join, donate, turn up to meetings and volunteer for us.

Then MAYBE someone will consider your ideas.

You don’t like the way the footy club is run?

Then nominate for the committee!

cohenite
August 21, 2021 1:59 pm

Dan Bongino makes a good point: the so-called conservatives may not be the solution to all the problems, but the left are certainly the cause of all your problems.

Dan’s podcast.

I understand the anger at the so-called conservative parties who have weakly succumbed to infiltration by lefties; but in Australia, small new parties do not succeed: PHON and SFF are the exceptions which prove the rule. The best approach is to join the LNP and work against the infiltrators.

As a matter of interest The Climate Sceptics Blog has been closed down by its host, an off-shoot of Google. The TCS blog has about 10 years of articles about the scam of AGW and will be a great loss.

rosie
rosie
August 21, 2021 1:59 pm

Exactly BoN

Tobin Tax from a party that might hold a handful of seats?

Who cares?

Arky
August 21, 2021 2:00 pm

*The LDP should*

Do nothing you specifically request as a personal favour until you join, donate, turn up to meetings and volunteer for us.

..
… and go through the initiation ritual.
Bring your own elk horns, duct tape, kilt, ferret and poppers.

Muddy
Muddy
August 21, 2021 2:02 pm

Cassie of Sydney says:
The Liberals are missing in action….as always.

If I may quote myself from the Peter Smith ‘Roll up your sleeves…’ thread:
As for placing hope in the Liberals – What are you people mixing your goat’s blood with?

rosie
rosie
August 21, 2021 2:02 pm

Im not looking for a saviour.

Got one of those already.

I’m looking for a balance of power brake in the upper house, state and federal.

feelthebern
feelthebern
August 21, 2021 2:03 pm

Dot, you’ve got the LDP big wigs on speed dial.
Tell them to have making the travel & quarantine exemptions public part of their platform.
Social media will do the rest.

miltonf
miltonf
August 21, 2021 2:05 pm

OK Dot, the one thing that stays in my mind is the tim tam during the TURC.

miltonf
miltonf
August 21, 2021 2:08 pm

Agree that it’s a toss up between LDP and PHON. Limbrick sounds ok too.

Arky
August 21, 2021 2:09 pm
miltonf
miltonf
August 21, 2021 2:09 pm

Also agree we need one or both of those parties that state unequivocally NO LOCKDOWNS.

Arky
August 21, 2021 2:13 pm

Dotsays:
August 21, 2021 at 1:57 pm
*The LDP should*

Do nothing you specifically request

..
You’re just a voter.
You don’t matter.
Didn’t ya know?

Dot
Dot
August 21, 2021 2:13 pm

Nice Steiner rip there Arky. We all know Montessori is the best kind of schooling though, if we are to have schools at all…

Hmm..DL dropped the ball with the TURC.

Was he wrong though? How many indictments came from that?

Cassie of Sydney
August 21, 2021 2:13 pm

“I can’t handle this level of stupidity and bigotry.”

I just read it…words fail me.

Dot
Dot
August 21, 2021 2:16 pm

Sort of correct actually, Arky.

The LDP is a party, not Parliament.

I really think Campbell Newman was a bad idea. I can’t even…

miltonf
miltonf
August 21, 2021 2:19 pm

Campbell Newman is part of the problem. Political families.

sfw
sfw
August 21, 2021 2:23 pm

I’m a member of the Vic LDP, not because I’m particularly political but I thought they were trying and a bit more support would help. They’re ok, however they will only take their opposition so far. I pointed out that we can’t comply our way out of this and that there is a huge potential voter base out there for someone brave and strong enough to take a stand against Andrews. That person needs a solid base and resources as well as a public profile, this is an opportunity waiting and if someone decent doesn’t step in then it’s likely some power hungry and possible lunatic may take the chance. I thought that the LDP reps in the Vic upper house should encourage non violent protest, starting with a call for a mass rally on the steps of parliament house. The response I got “we couldn’t do that, it’s against the law”. They are decent men but still think they are dealing with honest brokers, prepared to argue and reason the way out of the mess. They don’t understand that Dan is literally a megalomaniac and there’s no easy way out. I’ll stay a member for the forseeable future but I’m looking for someone with a spine.

Arky
August 21, 2021 2:24 pm

“The LDP is a party, not Parliament.”
..
I liked your “Get fucked Senator” policy.
I’m not so sure your “Get fucked voter expressing interest in our party” policy is such a winner.

Tom
Tom
August 21, 2021 2:24 pm

Campbell Newman is part of the problem. Political families.

No more than Mark Latham is part of the problem — and now looking for a solution that doesn’t include the Stupid.Fucking.Liberals/Liars.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
August 21, 2021 2:26 pm

If plod estimates 7500 in Brisbane there’s probably 15000

miltonf
miltonf
August 21, 2021 2:31 pm

No more than Mark Latham is part of the problem — and now looking for a solution that doesn’t include the Stupid.Fucking.Liberals/Liars.

Hmmm after Latham retweeted Hawker, I think u might be right

MatrixTransform
August 21, 2021 2:34 pm

Look to strengthen yourself internally and to find a tribe of like minded souls to help you think things through as we accelerate our descent into hell

I ordered an asbestos suit off eBay this morning

double-breasted for that extra layer of protection

John H.
John H.
August 21, 2021 2:36 pm

cohenitesays:
August 21, 2021 at 1:59 pm
The best approach is to join the LNP and work against the infiltrators.

The infiltrators you refer to are the rank and file of the LNP. A new member of a large party is just a grunt and that won’t change for years. The LDP is small enough that change and influence is possible. Small parties have had big influences in policy. Sometimes you only need 1-2 votes to swing the house.

cohenite
August 21, 2021 2:44 pm

Hmmm after Latham retweeted Hawker, I think u might be right

Got a link to that? This is all I could find:

Andrew Retweeted
Real Mark Latham
@RealMarkLatham
·
2h
Those pushing for mandatory vaccinations should understand the terrible trauma this is already causing
people in NSW, a real mental health issue.
Making people choose between their job and a medical procedure they don’t want.
They deserve our compassion, not condemnation.

https://twitter.com/andrewrdn463?lang=en

cohenite
August 21, 2021 2:45 pm

The LDP is small enough that change and influence is possible. Small parties have had big influences in policy. Sometimes you only need 1-2 votes to swing the house.

Alright, go LDP, or PHON, or SFF

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Border Closure

@ Calli: A certain well known & much revered fondly remembered type of cheese has recently been renamed.

Does this help?

MatrixTransform
August 21, 2021 2:50 pm

rubbery figures

rubbery bullets

rosie
rosie
August 21, 2021 2:57 pm
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
August 21, 2021 3:03 pm

Armadillo, I don’t know about ‘reporting’ these people but it is worth publicising that people, an awkward name for whom was recently removed from a brand of cheese, are still having large funeral parties when others cannot. Sauce, goose and gander are the relevant terms I think.

Having attended an internet funeral for a neighbour recently which I would like to have attended in person to support the deceased man’s wife, and seeing only ten members of this large country family able to be present, made your concerns resonate with me.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
August 21, 2021 3:03 pm

more on rubber bullets

This isn’t about health. It’s about power.

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
August 21, 2021 3:03 pm

@ Calli: A certain well known & much revered fondly remembered type of cheese has recently been renamed.

Does this help?

Oh so Armadillo was referring to Cheers people, now I understand.

Zipster
Zipster
August 21, 2021 3:07 pm

See I told you they should have gone in blackface, the police would have provided an escort not fired rubber bullets.

feelthebern
feelthebern
August 21, 2021 3:07 pm

Great to see unmasked NSW plod getting citizens in choke holds @sarc.
But not MMA style choke holds.
Yahoos getting drunk at a BBQ style choke holds.
Whoever the plod who did that put the punter in incredible danger.

MatrixTransform
August 21, 2021 3:08 pm

This isn’t about health

sure it is … high speed ‘medicine’ delivery mechanism

miltonf
miltonf
August 21, 2021 3:12 pm

Real Mark Latham Retweeted
bruce hawker
@brucehawker2010
·
1h
As NSW reaches a horrible Australian daily record for Covid cases let’s recall how we got here. An unvaccinated & unmasked driver picked up an aircrew with the Delta variant. But despite warnings
@GladysB
Berejiklian’s laws did not require him to be vaccinated nor wear a mask.

calli
calli
August 21, 2021 3:14 pm

Oh, I see.

Shows you how much the “offensive” word is used. Never occurred to me.

I was thinking goats cheese = goat herders and letterboxes.

Zipster
Zipster
August 21, 2021 3:18 pm

imho the ballot box is a rigged distraction

calli
calli
August 21, 2021 3:21 pm

Berejiklian’s laws did not require him to be vaccinated nor wear a mask.

And that would have stopped it…how, exactly?

feelthebern
feelthebern
August 21, 2021 3:22 pm

You have to hand it to the Melbourne protesters.
Looks like they read up on Alexander’s Companions.
They went through VicPol’s “elite” like a hot knife through butter.

feelthebern
feelthebern
August 21, 2021 3:22 pm

Berejiklian’s laws did not require him to be vaccinated nor wear a mask

Err….wasn’t she just following the CMO’s advice?

Dot
Dot
August 21, 2021 3:23 pm

“Rubber bullets of health” writes itself.

Arky
August 21, 2021 3:24 pm

imho the ballot box is a rigged distraction

..
Tune up, turn off, drop out.

feelthebern
feelthebern
August 21, 2021 3:26 pm

Why do the police continue to use horses in this way?
It’s 2021, not 1821.

miltonf
miltonf
August 21, 2021 3:26 pm

And that would have stopped it…how, exactly?

If it hadn’t been that it would have be something else.

cohenite
August 21, 2021 3:27 pm

miltonfsays:
August 21, 2021 at 3:12 pm

Latham is opposed to vaccine passports:

https://www.facebook.com/MarkLathamsOutsiders/

Boambee John
Boambee John
August 21, 2021 3:28 pm

rosiesays:
August 21, 2021 at 2:02 pm
Im not looking for a saviour.

Got one of those already.

I’m looking for a balance of power brake in the upper house, state and federal.

All very good, but as soon as there is a threat to the UniParty (end preferential or compulsory voting, stop taxpayer funding of political parties, name your favourite reform), the Liars and Gliberals will vote together to stop it. The balance of power is only effective when the big parties differ irreconcilably on an issue.

Arky
August 21, 2021 3:30 pm

feelthebernsays:
August 21, 2021 at 3:26 pm
Why do the police continue to use horses in this way?

..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G–KmVw1IiQ

feelthebern
feelthebern
August 21, 2021 3:32 pm

When police use rubber bullets & use choke holds from Steven Seagal movies, they shouldn’t be surprised they have lost all respect.

Zipster
Zipster
August 21, 2021 3:33 pm

bugmen apparatchiks are going after excessive energy consumption devices

California To Ban Gaming Computers

the expansion of the administrative state is unstoppable

srr
srr
August 21, 2021 3:33 pm

Barking Toadsays:
August 21, 2021 at 2:26 pm
If plod estimates 7500 in Brisbane there’s probably 15000

Likewise News . com called Melbourne’s Anti-Lockdown turnout, “more than a 1000”.
Yeah, like about 10,000 and more, more than a 1000.

rosie
rosie
August 21, 2021 3:35 pm

Food bank forced to close because queue was too long also in Melbourne

Zipster
Zipster
August 21, 2021 3:35 pm

Err….wasn’t she just following the CMO’s advice?

unelected bugmen now write advice…er laws er… orders..

feelthebern
feelthebern
August 21, 2021 3:36 pm

Overhead in Melbourne today : Where’s a chicken truck when you need one ? @sarc

feelthebern
feelthebern
August 21, 2021 3:37 pm

Overheard, not overhead.

Zipster
Zipster
August 21, 2021 3:39 pm

the expansion of the administrative state is unstoppable

When Trump started talking about the swamp, millions of unelected officialsbugmen were deeply offended, they contrived with the help of danegelding billionaires and fascist marxists to never let any curtailment of their power happen ever again.

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