Open Thread – Weekend 28 Aug 2021


Massacre of the Innocents, Pieter Bruegel the Elder, c. 1565-67

3,357 responses to “Open Thread – Weekend 28 Aug 2021”

  1. Armadillo Avatar
    Armadillo

    RealClearPolitics’ Biden approval average on Wednesday also showed the president’s figures underwater, 49.2 percent disapproving and 45.8 percent approving.

    Unbelievable figures when you think about what has happened in the last 2 weeks. 45.8% of Americans still approve of Joe.

    I must be missing something?

  2. Armadillo Avatar
    Armadillo

    Something strange going on. Don’t expect the media to report on it.

    Twitter people should search truckies (if you still can).

  3. srr Avatar
    srr

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    a very famous person or thing considered as representing a set of beliefs or a way of life:

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    a famous person or thing that represents something of importance:

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  4. srr Avatar
    srr

    mh says:
    September 2, 2021 at 12:36 am

    ‘Needs his mum’: Queensland boy, 3, trapped behind border lines
    The Queensland government is refusing to give an exemption to allow a three-year-old boy back into the state after he got stranded in locked down NSW without his parents while on holiday with his grandparents.

    I mentioned this before but I’ll say it again –

    When my kids started Jet Setting around the world, they thought I was a silly old mother to worry, because, ‘planes are safer than cars, etc. blah blah’, while they remained deaf to my one deep concern; that BORDERS WOULD SHUT & THEY COULD GET TRAPPED AWAY FROM HOME, IN COUNTRIES SUDDENLY AT WAR.

    As a small child I listened to the old men who fought & escaped Lenin, Stalin, Tito et al and understood how suddenly borders could be closed and friends & family could turn against their own, and I knew our world was being greatly influenced by the ideologies ‘my old men’ fought against, which meant, FAMILIES WOULD BE BROKEN DOWN & CUT OFF FROM EACH OTHER AGAIN & that that could very well include my children.

    Now here we are, in Our ONE Nation of Australia, with some boasting of breaking the rules & illegally crossing State borders to see grandchildren, then adjusting it to, ‘being within the rules’, then all over the place, but refusing to compare current Australia to 1910’s to ’40’s Europe, while continuing to act/boast like the privileged who betrayed their fellow countrymen in 1920’s/30’s/40’s England & Europe, so that they could keep living in the manner which they’d become accustomed.

  5. srr Avatar
    srr

    Seriously though, Scott Ryan, The Magician & Mr Inbetween, Classics.

    anyway, back to show …

  6. Megan Avatar
    Megan

    My thanks, Tom. Your efforts with the ‘toons every morning are a much appreciated component of my mental health plan.

  7. feelthebern Avatar
    feelthebern

    “No, the slug was not planted and the photo was definitely not altered in any way,” Ms Garlick said.

    Bold statement.
    Does she not know that there are digital finger prints all over it ?

  8. rosie Avatar
    rosie

    I never claimed to have crossed the Queensland border illegally.
    I said I was advised by Queensland health that it was up to the officer at the border so I got a medical certificate from my daughter’s doctor and a permit and drove the over 1000kms in the hope I had sufficient grounds to cross and the police officer allowed me to enter.
    Not an iota of my story has ever changed.
    Bearing false witness is a sin.

  9. rosie Avatar
    rosie

    People who pretend that what is happening in Australia* today is in any way comparable to the Shoah are both ahistorical and despicable.
    *Most of the northern hemisphere is getting back to normal while Australia cowers in her covid boots.

  10. 132andBush Avatar
    132andBush

    There will be no permitted movement in NSW shortly unless you’ve had at least on jab.

    None.

  11. Cassie of Sydney Avatar
    Cassie of Sydney

    I see Mrs Nong has spent the night furiously and frantically littering the site with cut and pastes from Dash Cat. Given her low IQ level, cutting and pasting is clearly something she excels at.

    Poor sack.

  12. 132andBush Avatar
    132andBush

    People who pretend that what is happening in Australia* today is in any way comparable to the Shoah are both ahistorical and despicable.

    Parallels to pre war Germany are not “ahistorical” though.

  13. rosie Avatar
    rosie

    I believe Allen West is running for governor in Texas?
    tens of thousands of illegal immigrants heading for Texas

  14. rosie Avatar
    rosie

    Texas has apparently effectively banned abortion and scotus aren’t doing anything about it.
    apparently RGB is rolling in her grave

  15. calli Avatar
    calli

    Speaking of DashCat, MarkA (poster of the Lame Pics of Excellence) posted a link to Adam Piggot’s latest. Worth a look.

  16. Cassie of Sydney Avatar
    Cassie of Sydney

    “People who pretend that what is happening in Australia* today is in any way comparable to the Shoah are both ahistorical and despicable.”

    Agree.

  17. rosie Avatar
    rosie

    Pity Adam Piggot’s site couldn’t get honour rolled here like sinc used to do on the oldcat.

  18. calli Avatar
    calli

    Parallels to pre war Germany are not “ahistorical” though.

    No. Hopefully those parallels are enough to alert those with an historical perspective. At least the power grab here is dispersed over a number of mediocrities and not centred on one immovable maniac.

  19. Tintarella di Luna Avatar
    Tintarella di Luna

    There will be no permitted movement in NSW shortly unless you’ve had at least on jab.

    I will make arrangements today for that eventuality

  20. calli Avatar
    calli

    I’d love to see a blogroll.*

    Sultan Knish
    Adam Piggot
    American Thinker
    Speccie
    Quadrant

    Plenty of others. Okay, Dover! Hop to it!

    * as opposed to a lengthy bogroll with dead ends

  21. rosie Avatar
    rosie

    I don’t agree, the concentration camps opened almost immediately after Hitler seized power and if you think suggested restrictions on the unvaxxed are in any way similar to those imposed on German Jews in the pre war period id suggest you review.1938 Kristallnacht

  22. Crossie Avatar
    Crossie

    Tom, thank you for the toons. Now up and shower, breakfast and get to work in my back room.

    Then I’ll rail at the gargoyle in Macquarie street for the rest of the day.

    It’s amazing how all of our leaders have revealed themselves for what they are – psychopaths. Every one of them.

  23. Dot Avatar

    *People who pretend that what is happening in Australia* today is in any way comparable to the Shoah are both ahistorical and despicable.*

    I get your point, but you’re wrong overall, despite the obvious difference of the existence of an extermination programme.

    It is comparable. They don’t need to be analogous.

    House arrest, tiered citizenship, papers please, beating old people with exemptions, beating people with autism, fining people with intellectual disabilities, arresting pregnant mothers organising dissent, intentional lying by public authorities, a compliant media, COVID camps – there are indeed parallels up to 1938 at least or the Wannsee Conference.

    This is like living in East Germany if it voted itself into communism and forced medical trials.

    Which is still very unsavoury stuff, even without the horrors of the camps.

  24. calli Avatar
    calli

    I’m thinking more about earlier stuff, rosie. By the time Kristallnacht rolled around the thinking was well-entrenched and the place was wallowing in evil.

    There are parallels, and I see the demonisation of the unvaxxed starting – it’s a kernel on social media now, but one that will blossom and bear bitter fruit given enough rope and time. I want it nipped in the bud.

    As for the Shoah, it’s horrifyingly unique. Pray keep it so.

  25. rosie Avatar
    rosie

    I’m not convinced our government is being controlled from overseas.
    In fact Rupie posted a very good article over at the dash yesterday that suggests Australia has done a very good job of resisting China’s bullying and I agree.
    Andrew’s abandonment yesterday of zero covid is a clear indication that Australia’s state premiers, in general, are simply delusional about what should now be regarded as an endemic disease that ought to be managed like the flu.
    Coming into summer they will start running out of excuses.

    Andrews wants to give us two more months of lockdown. This should not be about who is or isn’t vaxxed but government imbecility.

    Why aren’t more people furious?

  26. Mater Avatar
    Mater

    I don’t agree, the concentration camps opened almost immediately after Hitler seized power

    Hitler didn’t ‘seize’ power, the law gave it to him under an emergency act called “Law to Remedy the Distress of the People and the Reich”.

    That’s one parallel.

    That law suspended nearly all other rights and laws and put almost endless power in the hands of one man.

    From a State perspective, that’s two parallels.

  27. Knuckle Dragger Avatar
    Knuckle Dragger

    Apparently there is an outside chance that kids in the Victorian bush might be able to go to school next week.

    The chocolate ration just keeps on doubling.

  28. calli Avatar
    calli

    Ahahaha!

    Cambridge University’s Archaeological Museum is planning to explain the whiteness of its sculpture plaster casts as part of its anti-racist strategy. The plaster casts in the museum and lecture rooms are said to give a misleading impression of the whiteness and absence of diversity of the ancient world.

    An element (Calcium) is now racist!

  29. rosie Avatar
    rosie

    Demonising the unvaxxed is, in a way, ridiculous, no-one is even suggesting we seek 100 percent vaccine rate.
    I’m hoping the premier clowns fall flat on their faces, sooner rather than later.
    You can’t on one hand say there is insufficient supply and then on the other blame the vaccine resistant.

  30. Mater Avatar
    Mater

    “These Emergency Powers allow Authorised Officers to:

    detain any person or group for as long as reasonably necessary to eliminate or reduce a serious risk to public health;
    – restrict the movement of any person within Victoria;
    – prevent any person or group from entering Victoria; and
    – give any other direction reasonably necessary to protect public health.
    – In addition to the Emergency Powers, the Victorian Chief Health Officer may allow Authorised Offices to exercise certain public health powers where it is necessary to investigate, eliminate or reduce risk to public health from COVID-19 (Public Health Powers).

    The Public Health Powers are very broad, and allow Authorised Officers to do any of the following, if necessary to do so to eliminate or reduce the risk to public health:

    – close any premises;
    – direct a person or group to enter, not to enter, to remain at, or to leave, any particular premises;
    without a warrant, enter any premises and search for and seize anything; request information, including names and addresses;
    – inspect any premises;
    – require the destruction or disposal of anything; or
    – direct the owner or occupier of any premises, or any other person, to take particular actions.”

    A few more parallels!

  31. Bruce of Newcastle Avatar
    Bruce of Newcastle

    Cows got bioweapons.

    WHO monitoring new Covid ‘Mu variant’ (Daily Terror today, paywalled)

    There’s widespread concern over the emergence of new Covid mutations – including the ‘Mu variant’ – as infection rates continue to soar globally.

    Soon enough gnus will get into the action too, I suspect.

  32. feelthebern Avatar
    feelthebern

    & just like that the Sackler family has between $US8-10bill protected courtesy of the US tax payer.
    And all they had to do was cut a cheque for $US4-5bill.
    & nothing stops them from doing the whole thing again via a range of patents Purdue Pharma sold to related parties before the hammer came down on them.
    But no one cares.
    Too much of the Congress took Sackler money for there to be any other real outcome.

  33. calli Avatar
    calli

    You can’t on one hand say there is insufficient supply and then on the other blame the vaccine resistant.

    To the intelligent, I agree. Holding two diametrically opposed opinions and giving them equal weight is a sign of idiocy.

    However…such things have been known to happen. 🙂

  34. Knuckle Dragger Avatar
    Knuckle Dragger

    The plaster casts in the museum and lecture rooms are said to give a misleading impression of the whiteness and absence of diversity of the ancient world.

    Factoid:

    The blecks were invented in 1652 by the CSIRO to assist stonemasons and farmers. By 1715 they had become sentient and started asking for things, like red leather shoes.

    Cheeky bastards.

  35. calli Avatar
    calli

    It’s known as a Mu-tation.

    I’ll see myself out.

  36. rosie Avatar
    rosie

    I’m not suggesting there aren’t draconian restrictions and government overreach but the purpose is entirely different.
    I absolutely acknowledge that Victoria has been a police state for close enough for two years.

  37. feelthebern Avatar
    feelthebern

    From the WSJ.

    Apple Plans Blood-Pressure Measure, Wrist Thermometer in Watch

    Apple is working on new health-related features for its smartwatch, including a tool to tell users when their blood pressure is increasing and a thermometer to help with fertility planning, according to people familiar with the plans and internal company documents.

    Apple plans to offer health insurance at some stage.
    Oh boy, the current mob in Oz are in for a shake up when it comes here.

  38. Bons Avatar

    Has Leak been disappeared?

  39. Mater Avatar
    Mater

    Rosie,
    The concentration camps (Dachau) instituted after Hitlers rise, was for political opponents.
    The road towards the Shoah was a much slower burn, something we should remain vigilant of.

  40. sfw Avatar
    sfw

    These oppressive and discriminatory laws (rules?) for the unvaccinated, are they permanent? Do they go away when (if) the state of emergency is over? Any ideas?

    Anyone know where the ‘national cabinet’ minutes are and when they can be accessed?

  41. calli Avatar
    calli

    Apparently I am soon to receive a letter from our Fearless Leader.

    Which will go in the bin.

  42. Sancho Panzer Avatar
    Sancho Panzer

    sfwsays:

    September 2, 2021 at 7:54 am

    These oppressive and discriminatory laws (rules?) for the unvaccinated, are they permanent? Do they go away when (if) the state of emergency is over? Any ideas?

    Dan is apparently negotiating with the Upper House “independents” to make them permanent.

  43. rosie Avatar
    rosie

    Mater I know.
    Alfred Kerr was both a political opponent and a Jew.
    Some might argue that everything hilter did was cover for his real purpose, to rid the world of Jews.
    I’m just not seeing the unvaxxed as the new Jews, after all that underlying issue should be concern for the health of the unvaxxed, I know many fruit loops have convinced themselves the unvaxxed pose a threat to the vaxxed but we already know there are many people who are idiots.
    And a person can go from the unvaxxed column in the twinkling of an eye, a Jew could not.
    Is the vaxxed unvaxxed divide such a huge issue overseas?
    Or is it just a news corp beat up?

  44. Mother Lode Avatar
    Mother Lode

    The plaster casts in the museum and lecture rooms are said to give a misleading impression of the whiteness and absence of diversity of the ancient world.

    You really need to be staggeringly stupid to fall for this nonsense.

  45. calli Avatar
    calli

    I will disregard his letter in the same way he disregarded a letter from the Archbishops of Sydney (Anglican, Catholic and Orthodox) exactly one year ago, humbly pleading with him to consider other products because of Christians’ real ethical concerns.

    He has then doubled down and has decreed that Novovax will be a “booster” for those who have already bowed and compromised.

    Shame on him.

  46. Mater Avatar
    Mater

    Some might argue that everything hilter did was cover for his real purpose, to rid the world of Jews.

    Yes, that could be argued.
    He didn’t invade Russia because they were socialists (though he did think they were doing it wrong), he invaded because he equated Bolsheviks with Jews…and wanted autarky for the German people in respect to land and resources.

  47. Mother Lode Avatar
    Mother Lode

    Do they go away when (if) the state of emergency is over? Any ideas?

    There will always be emergencies.

    The fact that there will be no obvious signs of it will be taken as proof that the ’emergency’ measures are working, and provide justification to keep them in place.

  48. John H. Avatar
    John H.

    feelthebernsays:
    September 2, 2021 at 7:39 am
    & just like that the Sackler family has between $US8-10bill protected courtesy of the US tax payer.
    And all they had to do was cut a cheque for $US4-5bill.
    & nothing stops them from doing the whole thing again via a range of patents Purdue Pharma sold to related parties before the hammer came down on them.
    But no one cares.
    Too much of the Congress took Sackler money for there to be any other real outcome.

    I’ve read a book on the subject(Dopesick Nation) which reveals how difficult it is to take a corporation to court in the USA. At one point Purdue boasted of a 65-0 wins in court battles against it. Then a huge case was presented that scared Purdue so much they hired Giuliani because of his recent fame in New York matters. The scumbag Giuliani tried every trick in the book and in a certain sense did win because Purdue has split the organisation in such a way the Sackler family were completed protected from litigation. However 3 executives received suspended jail terms and the fine was less than a month’s profits.

    It was the legal system that protected the Sackler family. It is not that much different here. The legal profession knows this and doesn’t care because it makes so much money from large corporations.

  49. dover0beach Avatar

    Pity Adam Piggot’s site couldn’t get honour rolled here like sinc used to do on the oldcat.

    I’ve been meaning to add one for weeks. Will add it this morning. I see Calli’s recommendations, others are welcomed.

  50. calli Avatar
    calli

    Good man, Dover. 😀

    On account of I’m too lazy to type them into a search engine.

  51. calli Avatar
    calli

    Don’t forget Guido Fawkes with news and views from Blighty.

  52. miltonf Avatar
    miltonf

    Ha ha I new the evil degenerates would come with another deadly strain. So is it mu or covid22?

  53. Sancho Panzer Avatar
    Sancho Panzer

    Let’s not forget that Hitler believed in the supremacy of the Arian race.
    The Jews were first cab off the rank.
    Once he worked through the Jews, Slavs, gypsies and various Russian tribes he wouldn’t have stopped.
    Freckled Irish, ebony-skinned Africans, Spaniards, Asians would have all had their turn.

  54. dover0beach Avatar

    Dan is apparently negotiating with the Upper House “independents” to make them permanent

    How are secret negotiations with the crossbench over emergency powers or permanant health orders legitimate?

  55. Sancho Panzer Avatar
    Sancho Panzer

    Dover.
    If you link to Dash-Cat you could then ask ussr to give the cut and paste a spell.

  56. Cassie of Sydney Avatar
    Cassie of Sydney

    Everyday when I open up the Daily Telegraph website or when I get to work and read the Oz website, I’m struck by this incessant discussion and demonisation of “anti-vaxxers”.

    Without a doubt there’s something sinister happening, a singling out of a group of people for public shaming, humiliation, censor and opprobrium. I’ve never seen anything like it, the MSM are obsessed with anti-vaxxers…the same way Hitler and the Nazis were obsessed with Jews.

    I go into the office, I’m part of the skeletal staff however there are more and more people in Sydney’s CBD…unlike last year. A group of us met for coffee yesterday and several people said that they’d had their first vaccination even though they didn’t particularly want to have it, they were doing it so that the economy could open up and they were all adamant……once fully vaccinated we should be able to go about without masks and and everything should be open. I feel people are becoming quite angry…with government and media.

  57. rosie Avatar
    rosie

    10 more weeks Victorians.
    Perhaps all of spring with many small businesses destroyed and children denied the rest of the school year.
    The most vulnerable groups, the over 50s are by and large vaxxed.
    There are not enough police to stop hundreds of thousands of people committing passive acts of civil disobedience to get the government to resign.
    What will it take for people to say enough?

  58. rosie Avatar
    rosie

    Anti vaxxers are a distraction tbh.

  59. feelthebern Avatar
    feelthebern

    Annastacia Palaszczuk made a white power sign in QLD parliament yesterday.
    Surprisingly, top white power sign caller outerer Magda has not commented yet.

  60. rosie Avatar
    rosie

    Lockdowns couldbe eased back tomorrow.

    It’s as if the government thinks vulnerable people are incapable of making rational decisions for themselves.

    nearly 80 percent of over 50s have had at least one dose of a vaccine

  61. rosie Avatar
    rosie

    Looks like we’ll be able to travel overseas before we can go to Queensland.
    80 percent double dose International borders and they think before Christmas?

  62. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha Avatar
    Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    O/T – someone on the Doomlords blog recommended “Checkmate in Berlin” by Giles Milton – an account of the opening days of the Cold War in that city. Good reading – there’s an account of a group of British and Soviet officers going wild boar hunting in an effort to improve the strained relationship. The British took hunting rifles – the Soviets took sub machine guns, which the Brits regarded as “not quite the thing to do.”

  63. Bruce of Newcastle Avatar
    Bruce of Newcastle

    Everyday when I open up the Daily Telegraph website or when I get to work and read the Oz website, I’m struck by this incessant discussion and demonisation of “anti-vaxxers”.

    Emmanuel Goldstein is behind this terrible threat to the country!
    Minitru The Tele tells us so.
    A graphic from the Geek in Pictures today seems apposite.

    (I had noticed the same thing Cassie, and wondered if it is orders from on high.)

  64. dover0beach Avatar

    The fruits of monomania:

    Rita Panahi
    @RitaPanahi
    This is what cancer specialists have been warning about since March 2020. The obsession with Covid & neglect of all other health issues. Man refused face to face appointment, now has inoperable cancer.

  65. Dr Faustus Avatar
    Dr Faustus

    These oppressive and discriminatory laws (rules?) for the unvaccinated, are they permanent? Do they go away when (if) the state of emergency is over? Any ideas?

    Only when competitive ice skating starts in Hell (or when the Money Fountain runs dry).

    Retail politics isn’t everything, but a quick glance around Australia shows the magical political advantage of WuFlu:

    • The Strong Leader culture has replaced the usual performance of the Fuckup Fairy Circus;

    • The incumbent can lean on a compliant CHO Druid and intone The Science to drive away political demons;

    • Ad hoccery replaces the need for discipline and delivery – “I make no apology, this wicked variant made me do it…”;

    • There are very few Red Lines left; the media is unprepared to question the primacy of Governments saving their subjects from death;

    • Oppositions are supine and ineffectual in the face of these Get Out of Jail cards – there is no failure that can’t be skated around.

    The Rona is endemic and backed up by influenza and other public health poxes. This new political paradigm is not going away on its own.

  66. shatterzzz Avatar
    shatterzzz

    Does anyone know something I don’t?
    Did my weekly shop at local (Fairfield) Woolies this morning .. lotza gaps on the shelves .. especially, Woolies OWN BRAND stuff …..

  67. feelthebern Avatar
    feelthebern

    Joe Rogan has COVID.

  68. MatrixTransform Avatar
    MatrixTransform

    Yesterday was a stunner.

    In the morning there was chit-chat and smiling because The Bat Eared Mong was apparently gonna relent a little and ease restrictions.

    All smiles and hope and sunshine.

    Then … they added more weeks.

    LuckDan 6.0c — slimmer, but longer ( just the way youse like it )

  69. Boambee John Avatar
    Boambee John

    sfw

    Anyone know where the ‘national cabinet’ minutes are and when they can be accessed?

    Each set of minutes (only finalised from earlier drafts after the AAT decision) reads as follows: “The National Cabinet met and decided on future actions necessary to enable recovery from the current emergency”.

  70. Mater Avatar
    Mater

    Man refused face to face appointment, now has inoperable cancer.

    He’s not the first, and won’t be the last. I buried a family member, not that long ago.

  71. feelthebern Avatar
    feelthebern

    Does anyone know something I don’t?

    This morning at the mini Woollies near my work, there was a limited supply of bottled water.
    I asked when they expect more in, they said next week.
    So I am drinking awful awful Evian today.

  72. feelthebern Avatar
    feelthebern

    Check out how the number one podcaster on the planet is treating his COVID.
    Check out the smothers going on how he is treating his COVID.

  73. Mother Lode Avatar
    Mother Lode

    Man refused face to face appointment, now has inoperable cancer.

    What was the excuse? That he had not been vaccinated? That restrictions prevented him from seeking medical advice – here I am thinking of some sort of triage where people not already identified as having a serious disease were discouraged from clogging up the system. A doctor who turned patients away because they were so panicked?

    None of the abo0ve are acceptable. Just want a bit more background.

  74. Sancho Panzer Avatar
    Sancho Panzer

    Man refused face to face appointment, now has inoperable cancer.

    Even the dumb-arse garage nasties on the Old Cat predicted that one.

  75. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha Avatar
    Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    I pissed off a very left/feminist/lesbian acquaintance by insisting on calling it “rapeseed”. Gave her a fit of the vapours each time I said it.

    More then one farming family was placed under stress, when the breed became popular, when the husband announced his intention of ” trying out rape.”

  76. rosie Avatar
    rosie

    He sure seems to have taken a bunch of medication including monoclonal antibodies
    variety on Joe rogan

  77. calli Avatar
    calli

    Did he refuse the appointment or was he refused the appointment?

    Either way it’s a disgrace. Fear or authoritarian. Take your pick.

  78. Sancho Panzer Avatar
    Sancho Panzer

    So I am drinking awful awful Evian today.

    Oh, the humanity!!!

  79. Mater Avatar
    Mater

    What was the excuse?

    Telehealth.

    Like a lot of these new terms, the first word completely invalidates the meaning of the second (Ie. Social Justice).

    Monty explains it best:

    m0nty says:
    May 26, 2021 at 10:49 pm
    Also, in Victoria last year before the vaccine was available, how could you expect doctors to risk infection with face to face consultations? They are not soldiers on a battlefield.

  80. rosie Avatar
    rosie

    Its the same with heart attacks, ambulance response times are significantly slower because of covid so more people are dying, I think their website said from 6 percent to 12 percent at scene but no one is interested.

  81. Roger Avatar
    Roger

    This is what cancer specialists have been warning about since March 2020. The obsession with Covid & neglect of all other health issues. Man refused face to face appointment, now has inoperable cancer.

    And yet there they were on ABC AM today opining on the need to keep people out of public hospitals lest they be overwhelmed.

    What are the odds every ABC “star” has top private health cover and expects only the best treatment?

  82. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha Avatar
    Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    ‘Bad memories’: Taliban say Australian soldiers violated human rights
    By Jonathan Kearsley
    September 1, 2021 — 6.28pm

    The Taliban say they have “bad memories” of Australia’s 20-year involvement in Afghanistan, accusing Australian soldiers of human rights violations of the worst kind.

    In a wide-ranging interview with Nine News, Taliban spokesperson Suhail Shaheen said Australian soldiers should be prosecuted for alleged war crimes committed during the occupation.

    “Australia was part of [the] occupation, but they committed some of the worst and the brutal kind of human rights violations, by hacking fingers off dead bodies and killing farmers in Uruzgan and other provinces they were based,” Shaheen told Nine on Wednesday.

    “They should be prosecuted as per the law, humanitarian law. So we do not have good memories of them, rather bad memories. Despite their being [the] occupier, they violated some human rights violations.”

    The Taliban’s English-language representative made international headlines when he rang the BBC’s Yalda Hakim within hours of the fall of Kabul to offer assurances about the safety of the city’s residents under the militants’ control.

    He said his comments about alleged Australian war crimes were based on “media reports, on the interviews of the victims, all the evidence [is] there”.

    The Brereton Report, released in November last year, found credible information that at least 39 Afghans were unlawfully killed by Australian soldiers, with two others subjected to cruel treatment, in 23 separate incidents, involving 25 members of the Special Operations Task Group.

    Shaheen also said the 41 Australian soldiers who died in Afghanistan died as the occupiers of a country that was not their own.

    “If my country’s forces go invade your country, occupy your country and they died in your country, killing your people, occupying your country, what would you say? Would you say they came here for something legal and it was their right to invade your country? The same applies to my country Afghanistan.”

    “Human rights?” Since when could the Taliban even spell those words?

  83. Eyrie Avatar
    Eyrie

    Like a lot of these new terms, the first word completely invalidates the meaning of the second (Ie. Social Justice).
    Government welfare (actually Government anything)
    Military Intelligence
    Animal Welfare
    Environmental Protection

  84. lotocoti Avatar
    lotocoti

    Let’s not forget that Hitler believed in the supremacy of the Arian race.

    Let’s not forget the Boche saw themselves as Europe’s bulwark against the Slavic hordes,
    long before the Austrian corporal came to power.
    Moltke the Younger’s 1914 attempt to reprise Moltke the Elder’s 1870 success in France
    was to allow the fatherland a free hand in the east.
    Adolf’s aryan destiny was just a new twist to an old dream.

  85. Roger Avatar
    Roger

    Last week I saw a report of a business conference in Brisbane in which attendees were told that their biggest problem in the future will not be the after effects of the virus response but the shrinking middle class, which is a long term trend. The people who can afford their products are disappearing.

  86. JMH Avatar
    JMH

    Apparently I am soon to receive a letter from our Fearless Leader.

    Which will go in the bin.

    Calli, kaysee (at dash-cat yesterday) put up links to TAP (The Australia Project) which encourages massive letter-writing campaigns. I wonder if this PM guff would not warrant such action? I’m in the target age group and I think I will have some fun with that bit of paper!

  87. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare Avatar
    Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    I’ve been meaning to add one for weeks. Will add it this morning. I see Calli’s recommendations, others are welcomed.

    Dover, Adam gets a lot of thanks for fixing things that go wrong on his site and it still has many technical problems. You don’t just fix things, you add new things that are helpful, so thank you for firstly, running a well-moderated site, and secondly, for being so responsive about people’s requests.

  88. Mother Lode Avatar
    Mother Lode

    Also, in Victoria last year before the vaccine was available, how could you expect doctors to risk infection with face to face consultations?

    Were the hospitals closed down last year?

    Monty always strikes me as a interest in other people is vastly dwarfed by his desire to use them as tools in his endless political skirmishes. There is a very small radius around him which encompasses people he feels some lingering empathy for.

    He blunders into an argument, makes a ridiculous statement, people point out rather horrendous consequences that seem not to have crossed his mind and then, rather admitting his error, he is content to consign any and all people to a gigantic waste disposal unit. As long as he does not have to admit being wrong.

    I would never rely upon him for anything.

  89. feelthebern Avatar
    feelthebern

    A lot of health “professionals” in Australia over the past 18 months resemble the New Orleans police force during/after Katrina.
    They all decided that #1 was the only thing that mattered & they shirked their responsibilities when it mattered most.
    So when people call them heroes, a lot of them should be called shirkers.

  90. Sancho Panzer Avatar
    Sancho Panzer

    Dash-Cat.
    Half a dozen comments in an hour.
    Three of them loooong streams of pelican shit from the Bird’s arse.
    You were warned AdamD.

  91. Zipster Avatar
    Zipster

    So interesting my anti-body test came back negative. That’s wierd as I had all the symptoms of covid, including low O2 saturation, loss of taste, shortness of breath etc. Joe Rogan reported the same thing, despite being exposed to it, his anti-body test came back negative. Ronda Patrick suggested a different more sensitive test which unfortunatelyI can’t get here.

    The tests performed where IgG and IgM.

    I found the following study on the effectiveness of IgG

    “Patients with severe COVID-19 both seroconvert earlier and develop higher concentrations of SARS-CoV-2-specific IgG than patients with mild symptoms. Of those patients who not develop detectable IgG antibodies, all have detectable virus-neutralizing antibodies, suggesting immunity. Our results showing that not all COVID-19 patients develop detectable IgG using two validated commercial clinical methods, even over time, are vital for the interpretation of COVID-19 seroprevalence surveys”

    I have had this before where a test comes back as negative but when you look at the actual numbers it’s just a shade below the threshold for positive. Does that mean something was detected or not? how is the threshold for positive/negative calibrated? I wouldn’t categorise this as conclusively negative but more like inconclusive.

    Given my episode with covid was about 18 months ago, how does this effect the reliability of the test? Nobody has calibrated the test for such a long period.

    Interestingly the test came back with out a number just negative, does this mean zero or below some threshold? Why not provide the actual number? I know it’s a range.

    the IgM test seems useless as
    “A longitudinal detection of antibodies revealed that IgM levels decreased rapidly in recovered patients”

    also found this:
    “Approximately 39.22% (20 of 51 people) of project participants diagnosed with COVID-19 showed an unusual change in plasma anti-SARS-CoV-2 IgA levels. Relatively high levels of IgA (ratio ~ 3) after recovery persisted for a long time (more than 6 months). In one-third (17 of 51 people) of patients with COVID-19, the IgA level exceeded the IgG level. IgA antibodies appeared earlier and showed a stronger and more robust response to the SARS-CoV-2 virus than IgG.”

    no IgA test.

    Also found that requests for these anti-body test is a “notifiable event”.

  92. JMH Avatar
    JMH

    If the link to a very good TAP video presentation has not been put up here. I will do so shortly. RL happening at the moment.

  93. Sancho Panzer Avatar
    Sancho Panzer

    Adolf’s aryan destiny was just a new twist to an old dream.

    Yes, these things don’t arise from nowhere.

  94. Roger Avatar
    Roger

    Let’s not forget that Hitler believed in the supremacy of the Arian race.

    Ulfilas has a lot to answer for.

  95. Mother Lode Avatar
    Mother Lode

    And yet there they were on ABC AM today opining on the need to keep people out of public hospitals lest they be overwhelmed.

    The hospitals have never been anywhere near whelmed.

    That is why nurses have had the energy and time to do those awful dancing vids on TikTok.

    But inculcating suspicion and fear of each other the way politicians and the MSM have done since the beginning of this thing is probably the most corrosive assault on the fabric of society we have ever been subject to.

  96. rosie Avatar
    rosie

    Maybe you just didn’t have covid zippy. Unless you’d been overseas your chances of contracting it in Australia were pretty low.
    Far more likely I caught it in Rome at the end of December 2019 but I’m not at all convinced.

  97. rosie Avatar
    rosie

    Letting bird run amok, and allowing grig and his many socks and others spit bile is not conducive to either sane commentors on the open forum or decent contributors wanting to post articles.

  98. Zipster Avatar
    Zipster

    Last week I saw a report of a business conference in Brisbane in which attendees were told that their biggest problem in the future will not be the after effects of the virus response but the shrinking middle class, which is a long term trend. The people who can afford their products are disappearing.

    This has been on the cat for over a decade. The slow decline of the west, due to it’s below replacement birth rates. Some parts of Europe are close to half the replacement rate.

  99. Roger Avatar
    Roger

    This has been on the cat for over a decade. The slow decline of the west, due to it’s below replacement birth rates. Some parts of Europe are close to half the replacement rate.

    But the cause isn’t just demographic, it’s also the result of economic policies.

    It’s interesting that the danger of neo-feudalism has now seeped down to prosaic business conferences.

  100. Zipster Avatar
    Zipster

    Maybe you just didn’t have covid zippy. Unless you’d been overseas your chances of contracting it in Australia were pretty low.

    don’t know. What else has the same symptoms?

  101. feelthebern Avatar
    feelthebern

    2020-2021 has demonstrated that many taxpayer funded institutions are papier-mache over piles of shit.
    Most Cats knew this for years (decades?).
    Now that cohort of enlightened citizens has grown.
    This is what the Cathedral fears most.

  102. feelthebern Avatar
    feelthebern

    Apart from projecting power & sending a message to others, there is zero reason for the police to engage with anyone they view is “not adhering to a public health order” (oh my, how chilling is that).
    All they need to do is take a photo & send them the ticket once identified.
    Pretty fucking simple.
    NSW Police stations need a fuck ton of roast chickens turning up at cop shops.

  103. Diogenes Avatar
    Diogenes

    Apparently I am soon to receive a letter from our Fearless Leader.

    Which will go in the bin.

    Mine will be ‘returned to sender ‘

  104. feelthebern Avatar
    feelthebern

    Anything Dave Sharma sends me goes straight into the bin.
    Even the handy calendar magnet.

  105. feelthebern Avatar
    feelthebern

    Back when I was in Graydler, I used to get Albo’s calendar magnet.
    I used to take it to my old work & leave it on the desk of a chap who was the most rusted in Liberal voter you’d ever meet.
    The blow ups were hilarious.

  106. Cassie of Sydney Avatar
    Cassie of Sydney

    “feelthebernsays:
    September 2, 2021 at 9:50 am
    Anything Dave Sharma sends me goes straight into the bin.
    Even the handy calendar magnet.”

    Yep…me too.

  107. JMH Avatar
    JMH

    For those who may be interested, this is the TAP video kaysee put up on the over-the-road Cat at 6.46 pm 31/8. You can check it there if my link bombs.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xA8-X58FazQ

  108. calli Avatar
    calli

    Mine will be ‘returned to sender ‘

    Excellent idea. I will also enclose a copy of this.

    For all the good it will do me.

  109. feelthebern Avatar
    feelthebern

    calli, maybe also include a copy of the constitution.

  110. Zipster Avatar
    Zipster

    the flu?

    definitely not the flu or a cold. no cough, no runny nose. no fever. no aches and pains. definitely a virus, everyone in the house got it. Equally mild.

  111. Bruce of Newcastle Avatar
    Bruce of Newcastle

    Chase Bank Unveils New “Reputation Risk” Campaign, Targeting Loyal Customers For Their Political Beliefs

    When I mentioned this a few days ago JC told me condescendingly it was a hoax.
    An apology might be in order JC…

  112. John H. Avatar
    John H.

    Rogersays:
    September 2, 2021 at 10:00 am
    A review of Joel Kotkin’s The Coming of Neo-Feudalism: A Warning to the Global Middle Class.

    Thanks Roger. Good read but also a frightful one!

  113. Roger Avatar
    Roger

    Thanks Roger.

    You’re welcome, John.

    The reviewer is spot on when he says that covid brought what were long term trends into sharp focus, but the election of Trump was also a massive push back against these trends.

  114. P Avatar
    P

    DOWN UNDER ARREST: Australian Jailed Over Vaccine Mandates
    Written by Michael J. Matt – Wednesday, September 1, 2021

    Photograph caption: Men at work, Down Under.

    Comment by TruthHurts • an hour ago –
    Lord have Mercy. Satan is running wild now and we must fight back by trusting in our Lord and speaking up in defense of hero’s like Monica Smit. This will come to America if we don’t fight back now!
    St. Michael, defend us in battle!

  115. Bruce of Newcastle Avatar
    Bruce of Newcastle

    This has been on the cat for over a decade. The slow decline of the west, due to it’s below replacement birth rates. Some parts of Europe are close to half the replacement rate.

    Commendable comment from Pope Francis overnight. I wish he’d stick to this sort of stuff, and the Gospel, and leave out the leftist activism.

    Pope Francis: Abortion Is at the Root of Europe’s ‘Demographic Winter’ (1 Sep)

    Not the only reason, but surely a very big contributor. Meanwhile the lefty not-entirely-Christian end of the Christian spectrum has also weighed in.

    Left-Wing Clergy Join ‘Reproductive Freedom’ Push in Wake of Texas Pro-Life Law (1 Sep)

    I don’t know how they interpret “love your neighbour as yourself” to mean exterminate your closest possible neighbour because he/she is inconvenient to your lifestyle.

  116. Winston Smith Avatar

    Rosie:

    Isn’t housing costs a supply and demand thing that should sort itself out eventually, a problem exacerbated by governments everywhere handling out ‘free’ money.

    It used to be, but out of control government spending and taxation, + an insatiable appetite for more resources means that the price signals are so debased as to be unrepresentative of demand and supply.

  117. Roger Avatar
    Roger

    I don’t know how they interpret “love your neighbour as yourself” to mean exterminate your closest possible neighbour because he/she is inconvenient to your lifestyle.

    They write their own laws, Bruce, and then twist scripture to justify them.

    “Did God really say…?”

  118. Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Border Closure Avatar
    Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Border Closure

    When I mentioned this a few days ago JC told me condescendingly it was a hoax.
    An apology might be in order JC…

    He said the same about the acute shortage of labour.
    It’s a not uncommon trait of those who don’t believe trends until they’re written in a corporate prospectus.

  119. Bruce of Newcastle Avatar
    Bruce of Newcastle

    Nice new blogroll Dover. Has that nice fresh mint scent to it!

    May I suggest you add Steve Kates’ blog since he’s been providing good stuff to Posh Cat as well.

    Law of Markets

  120. Gab Avatar
    Gab

    ”They write their own laws, Bruce, and then twist scripture to justify them.

    “Did God really say…?” ”

    Ooooh, nice reference to Genesis. I like how you tied that in, Roger.

  121. calli Avatar
    calli

    No fresh bread at the local Woolies today.

    “Supply issues”.

  122. Tom Avatar
    Tom

    Qantas’s new international flight schedule from December 20, 2021.

  123. calli Avatar
    calli

    Also Judges 21:25

    “In those days there was no King in Israel, and every man did what was right in his own eyes.”

  124. Shy Ted Avatar
    Shy Ted

    don’t know. What else has the same symptoms?

    Every respiratory infection. There are lots of viruses and bacteria and it’s common to get more than 1 at once. Everybody has a different response, likely due to natural immunity and overall health status. Even with the common cold there are degrees of sickness and individual fragility. What keeps one person in bed is shrugged off by tougher types.
    My last trip to the docs, for example

  125. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha Avatar
    Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    When I mentioned this a few days ago JC told me condescendingly it was a hoax.
    An apology might be in order JC…

    JC “doesn’t apologise”, even when he’s proved a liar.

  126. feelthebern Avatar
    feelthebern

    There are just so many wrong hot-takes re Texas/SCOTUS/abortion right now.
    Expect it to be discussed at length by the retards on the Project tonight, with zero discussion/input from anyone to talk law/procedure.
    Expect to be about feelings & a few comments like “speaking as a woman” etc.

  127. feelthebern Avatar
    feelthebern

    When Hawaii is on that fly list & I can quarantine at home on my return, I’m off for a month.

  128. Roger Avatar
    Roger

    2 Timothy 4: 3

  129. feelthebern Avatar
    feelthebern

    I reckon if you dropped the question on most of the Project regulars, they would think that Roe v Wade allowed the woman in question to have an abortion minutes after the SCOTUS ruling.
    They really are fucking morons.
    Their knowledge is tissue paper thin.

  130. feelthebern Avatar
    feelthebern

    The reality is that the pro-abortion industry effectively ran dead on the Texas laws with the purpose of turning it into a political/judicial hot potato.
    Biden wants to stack the court.
    Expect this to be the straw man they use for a bit.

  131. Tom Avatar
    Tom

    Bern, Honolulu is on the Qantas flight schedule from Sydney from December 20, 2021:

    “It’s obviously up to government exactly how and when our international borders re-open,” Qantas Group CEO Alan Joyce cautions, but says he has shared his plans with the government “and they agree with our broad assumptions, and agree that our plan is reasonable.”

    The airline’s plans also hinge on the prospect of either quarantine-free travel bubbles or ‘green lanes’ between countries, or a limited period of manageable home isolation on their return to Australia instead of spending 14 days in hotel quarantine for upwards of $3,000.

    And this caught my eye:

    Qantas will bring more destinations online from April 2022, including those which “still have low vaccine rates and high levels of Covid infection” – such as Bali, Jakarta, Manila, Bangkok, Phuket, Ho Chi Minh City and Johannesburg.

    Link.

  132. feelthebern Avatar
    feelthebern

    Thanks Tom.
    It’s not up on the Qantas website yet.

  133. srr Avatar
    srr

    dover0beachsays:
    September 2, 2021 at 8:09 am
    Pity Adam Piggot’s site couldn’t get honour rolled here like sinc used to do on the oldcat.

    I’ve been meaning to add one for weeks. Will add it this morning. I see Calli’s recommendations, others are welcomed.

    The Lotus Eaters, please.

    Sane, well spoken, not ‘shouty’ young men who’ve grown up before our eyes.

  134. Woolfe Avatar
    Woolfe

    If they do fly overseas you will no doubt face 14 days quarantine in a mine camp style donga with tiny shower and no windows. Meals thrust through a double dog flap.

  135. Top Ender Avatar
    Top Ender

    Covid Qld: No need to wait for children to be vaccinated, say experts

    Medical experts are appalled as Premier Annastacia Palaszczuk says children’s welfare is the reason she still can’t lay out a plan for reopening the state.

    Ms Palaszczuk yesterday appealed to parents, grandparents, aunts and uncles as she declared the fate of children was “the most serious issue that our country will face” and opening up would be exposing the most vulnerable.

    After committing to a National Cabinet plan to relax restrictions last month, the Premier said she now needed extra Doherty Institute modelling to show how children would fare before she could tell Queenslanders what life would look like when vaccination rates reached 80 per cent.

    “Unless there is an answer on how these young people are going to be vaccinated, you are putting the most vulnerable population at risk,” she said.

    “So anyone who has grandchildren, or young children, or nephews or nieces know how that plays on people’s minds.”

    She added: “What’s going to happen to the children?”

    But the comments were questioned by health experts, who said keeping borders shut to protect children was not sensible.

    Veteran paediatrician and vaccine expert Professor Robert Booy, who is also a member of the national Immunisation Coalition, said Ms Palaszczuk needed to use common sense in her decision, as children were not at high risk.

    Should the Premier commit now to opening up Queensland at 70-80 per cent vaccinated?
    Yes
    87 %
    No
    13 %
    6582 votes

    “I have been a paediatrician and have worked in the promotion of vaccinations for decades,” Prof Booy said.

    “If I thought young children needed urgent vaccination, I would say so.

    “Keeping borders shut because of the children is not a sensible measure.”

    He said young children would not be vaccinated until next year, and Ms Palaszczuk did not need to wait for new modelling.

    Courier-Mail

  136. feelthebern Avatar
    feelthebern

    Done.
    Booked a return flight to Hawaii in January.
    Fully flexible fare of course.

  137. Bruce of Newcastle Avatar
    Bruce of Newcastle

    Bern – I hope Scotus points out to knocked-up lefty Texans that New Mexico is a convenient car ride in the direction of the Left Coast. Not so hard to do even in a Gaia-chariot. It’s funny that a party who was so big on states’ rights is now so incensed by states standing on their rights.

  138. Diogenes Avatar
    Diogenes

    For all the good it will do me.

    I believe govt depts track unopened return to senders. Mine will have, ‘ not interested’ Sends a message like a simple binning doesn’t.

  139. Sancho Panzer Avatar
    Sancho Panzer

    feelthebernsays:

    September 2, 2021 at 9:50 am

    Anything Dave Sharma sends me goes straight into the bin.
    Even the handy calendar magnet.

    Bwah ha ha ha ha.
    Senora Panzer sent the one from our MP back with a note scrawled on the accompanying letter, “Enough with the trinkets. Just do your job!”
    Might have stung a bit, given it had our name and address on it, and he knows who we are.
    One of his offsiders called me a few days beforehand.
    Nothing specific, but it was clearly a softening up for a donation.

  140. feelthebern Avatar
    feelthebern

    Any time the Libs come knocking for a donation, open a draw, put your hand in it & slam it shut.
    By the time your hand stops hurting, you would have forgotten all about the donation request.

  141. srr Avatar
    srr

    Oh and working links to, “Intellectual Froglegs”, would be great.
    I can’t even get his home page to play here, but I’m sure someone must be able to get around whatever’s blocking it.

    Something that Joe Dan Gorman has in common with “Mr. Inbetween”, is entertaining common sense & a great soundtrack.

    Anyway, back to Scott Ryan, his hitman is far better company than ‘Knitting Ladies’, who so rudely slag off at people at Adam’s cat here, while pretending to be nice to their ‘face’.

  142. Tom Avatar
    Tom

    Bern, the only obstacle in your way for a Hawaii holiday is a mad dog power-tripping bureaucrat like Kerry Chant. Like most doctors, she has been fantasising about controlling society with government health orders all her adult life. For government-backed fascists like her, Kung Flu was a dream come true — and the power-grab blueprint won’t end with Kung Flu. Climate change, the road toll and sugar taxes are next.

  143. Bruce of Newcastle Avatar
    Bruce of Newcastle

    If they do fly overseas you will no doubt face 14 days quarantine in a mine camp style donga with tiny shower and no windows. Meals thrust through a double dog flap.

    Don’t forget to take your spacesuit with you, either.

    Airlines May Start Banning Cloth Masks (1 Sep)

    The friendly skies are becoming not-so-friendly to passengers wearing cloth masks. Several airlines overseas are already banning cloth masks and requiring that travelers wear surgical masks, FFP2 masks, KN95 or N95 masks without valves on flights.

    For a bunch of people who are trying to make a profit by selling tickets they sure don’t seem to want the punters to buy any of them.

  144. feelthebern Avatar
    feelthebern

    Bern, the only obstacle in your way for a Hawaii holiday is a mad dog power-tripping bureaucrat like Kerry Chant

    Hence the fully flexible fare.
    If I can’t fly o/s in 2022, it’s all over people.

  145. rosie Avatar
    rosie

    I presume if one can fly Melbourne Singapore there is no impediment to Singapore Rome or Singapore Paris.

    #metoo

  146. Cassie of Sydney Avatar
    Cassie of Sydney

    “feelthebernsays:
    September 2, 2021 at 11:03 am
    Any time the Libs come knocking for a donation, open a draw, put your hand in it & slam it shut.
    By the time your hand stops hurting, you would have forgotten all about the donation request.”

    Dave lives near me…can’t wait to say my piece when I next see him.

  147. Knuckle Dragger Avatar
    Knuckle Dragger

    ‘the most serious issue that our country will face’
    – Pallashay

    ‘Climate change is the great moral challenge of our generation’
    – Rudd

  148. rosie Avatar
    rosie

    I guess if you really want to go a mask requirement won’t be an impediment.

  149. calli Avatar
    calli

    Another one as a blogroll possibility is Taki’s Mag. I know…libertarian.

    Here’s an article about us. Nice photo too.

    This sort of brutal state power has never been seen in Melbourne before. Not even when hundreds of African migrants fought pitched battles in the Melbourne CBD during the annual Moomba festival, the city’s premier family event, in 2016. When tens of thousands of BLM protesters swarmed in defiance of lockdowns last year, none were arrested or even fined. Instead, police joined in the ritualistic abasement of “taking the knee.”

    Just in case Americans start to think we aren’t worthy allies, our experience had been the same as theirs. Minus the voting photocopiers.

  150. Bons Avatar

    Taps have water, and it is free.

  151. calli Avatar
    calli

    As far as the plane tickets go…even if I was vaccinated I can’t fly long haul in a mask. I can barely do the shopping in one.

    Some “holiday”.

  152. lotocoti Avatar
    lotocoti

    Currently re-reading my crumbling 48 year old copy of O, Jerusalem.
    While the soon to be Israeli Air Force was buying three ex surplus Lockheed Constellations for $45k, the soon to be ex paleosimians were flogging Western Desert salvaged Mausers to each other in the Souks for three times the price the Haganah were buying new from BRNO.

  153. rosie Avatar
    rosie

    “Rudely slag off”

    What utter rot when people from dash are reading comments here.
    They know what we are saying, and we definitely know what we are saying, Thorie is well aware I think he’s away with the fairies and should be booted.
    But for all his lunacy he isn’t a vicious old Mrs Mangle.

  154. Sancho Panzer Avatar
    Sancho Panzer

    Diogenes.
    Correct.
    Returning the promo letters with some pithy advice is a far better option.
    .
    ‘bern.
    I hope our MP saw Senora Panzer’s response after his right hand man waved the begging bowl under my nose.

  155. feelthebern Avatar
    feelthebern

    If you knew the politician – not some poor staffer – was going to open the mail, you’d fart into one of those plastic/polymer express post satchels & send it in.

  156. calli Avatar
    calli

    This is the latest from Kerry Chant:

    Clearly the advice is that within six weeks of an infection you’re unlikely to be re-infected with Delta but actually natural immunity to Delta or any virus is less effective than a vaccine in terms of long-term immunity. So what we would suggest is that we will probably have to work up a system where people can indicate they’ve had recent Covid and that would be developed into thinking but there may be circumstances where people are in industries or settings where we have a clinical discussion with them and offer the vaccine to those individuals as well. It’s not a cut and dry.

    It is a general guide and we will base that on Atagi advice.

    Notice what she did there? “A” vaccine. Forget Israel, who are discovering that the vaccine isn’t as crash hot as they thought.

    No, Kerry. It isn’t cut and dry. As you say.

  157. rosie Avatar
    rosie

    I can’t stand mask wearing either or riding in planes for that matter. I’m sure I’d be mask on mask again off the entire trip but the plane ride isn’t the holiday, it’s just the torture that makes arriving so much better.

  158. feelthebern Avatar
    feelthebern

    I plan to sit in the toilet sans-mask for most of the flight.

  159. Diogenes Avatar
    Diogenes

    Anybody else having an issue with the home page on a mobile? Mine is black on black with massive twatter and other anti social network logos. Only the homepage, and fixed by exiting mobile mode.

  160. duncanm Avatar
    duncanm

    Terry McCrann gets it:
    Earth to idiots: We are in recession

  161. Cassie of Sydney Avatar
    Cassie of Sydney

    “Anybody else having an issue with the home page on a mobile? Mine is black on black with massive twatter and other anti social network logos. Only the homepage, and fixed by exiting mobile mode.”

    Yes….I am having the same problem on my tablet.

  162. rosie Avatar
    rosie

    Yes Diogenes.
    Same problem.

  163. feelthebern Avatar
    feelthebern

    Chris Rock from 1:39.
    NSFW.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQieOWTy5Do

  164. calli Avatar
    calli

    This lockdown was never about cases. It was always about “nudging” the vax.

    Q: Premier, when will people be able to travel to regional New South Wales for leisure, holidays, to see families? 70%? Or 80%?

    Gladys Berejiklian:

    They’re the issues we’re discussing at the moment, so we’re looking at all the things that we would love people to do at 70% double dosed and that’s an option on the table.

    The Deputy Premier and I have been discussions on this with the health team in the last 24 hours.

    The New South Wales Government in conjunction with health experts and agencies across the board are working on finalising our road map on what 70% double dose looks like and 80% double dose.

    Blah…blah…blah…blah…

    It’s not an option any of us like but it’s an option we have to confront and we have so or our citizens to work their way through. When regional tourism and tourism across the state can start taking shape, we’re certainly looking at those options for 70% double dose and we’ll take the advice of the health experts.

    Pure blackmail.

    Get the jab and you can see your family. Get both jabs and we might let you cuddle your grandchildren.

    I can’t express the depth of disgust I feel for this barren mediocrity of a woman. I feel soiled that she lives in the suburb I grew up in.

  165. feelthebern Avatar
    feelthebern

    Pure blackmail.

    +100.

  166. feelthebern Avatar
    feelthebern

    To quote Malice who tags multiple tweets a day with this:

    Never forget what they have taken from us.

  167. feelthebern Avatar
    feelthebern

    Footage of the the next time the Libs hit me up for a donation.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHxIssSROjk

  168. Bruce of Newcastle Avatar
    Bruce of Newcastle

    ‘the most serious issue that our country will face’
    – Pallashay

    ‘Climate change is the great moral challenge of our generation’
    – Rudd

    Don’t give ’em ideas KD.

    Canadian PM Justin Trudeau hints at climate lockdowns: ‘What we learned from this climate–this uh – COVID crisis, we will be applying to the climate crisis’ (31 Aug)

    My suspicion is the usual suspects are encouraging all this behind the scenes, to “prepare” the punters. That’s just my paranoia speaking, probably, but given the crazy government overkill of the last year or so you can forgive my quirks in this respect. Still nothing much happening climatewise (scroll down at this link from 1 Sep for some current real world data).

  169. Tom Avatar
    Tom

    Earth to idiots: We are in recession
    TERRY MCCRANN

    It’s hard to know who are the bigger idiots: those who confidently predicted GDP would go negative in the June quarter or those who now hail the positive number as proof we’ve avoided a “double-dip recession”.

    The core idiocy is of course the fixation on “two successive quarters of negative GDP” as proof of a recession – sometimes, equally idiotically modified to being proof of a “technical recession”.

    There’s nothing “technical” about a recession. There is only basic reality – businesses going broke, large numbers of people losing their jobs.

    The whole country is in recession right now.

    Look at the calendar – mine says it is September. The ABS figures Wednesday measured the economy in the June quarter. Earth to idiots: that was yesterday.

    To repeat, right now NSW and Victoria are in recessions as bad as that of the June quarter last year, and both Chairman Dan and Premier Berejiklian have formally committed to keeping their states there at least through October.

    Talking of idiocy, the Age website headlined Wednesday: “(Victorian) Lockdown to continue until September 23”.

    Until September 23?

    That’s the date when only the most trivial of restrictions might be removed; and so at best, will still leave Victorians locked, locked, locked down at near the toughest levels we’ve seen anywhere outside Wuhan in the early days.

    As I wrote in The Australian last Saturday: “The important question is not whether we were already in recession in the June quarter – we were not”.

    I wrote that the June quarter GDP number should come in with positive growth, in terms of what was generally happening with the economy, and with only Victoria’s Lockdown 4.0 of any major negative significance.

    The September quarter GDP figures are likely to show the economy has shrunk by 3 per cent, possibly 4 per cent.
    The important question wasn’t even whether the economy had gone into recession since the June quarter; because there simply wasn’t any serious question about that. It had.

    Again, as I wrote, when we get the GDP figures for the September quarter (in early December) they will show the economy will have shrunk by at least 3 per cent.

    Maybe if I was writing that sentence today, I’d push it up to 4 per cent. That – and the reality in destroyed lives, bruised and battered businesses and lost jobs and futures – is a recession.

    And it won’t be un-made a recession if just because we get a positive GDP number in the December quarter.

    That’s also what the national figure will be, for all of Australia.

    It won’t be as bad as the completely unprecedented 7 per cent plunge courtesy of the national lockdown through the June quarter 2020.

    We don’t measure state GDPs, but if we did, both Victoria and NSW would be seeing falls of around 6-7 per cent – as bad as it was for them and all of Australia a year ago.

    The main damage premiers do with lockdowns is to their own states; but given the importance of Victoria and NSW, their lockdowns have dragged all the other states down as well – true, into much milder recession.

    Queensland is being hit hardest because of the importance of tourism and with its two main domestic sources (self) cut off with its own border closure.

    WA is insulated to some extent by its massive tax revenues from iron ore.

    Again as I wrote the only important question is how long we stay in recession?

    Do the premiers of NSW and Vic lock us in to Christmas? Or into 2022; locking their own 15m citizens into economic cages as well as actual, if homely, ones?

    Yes, both the recession last year and this one we are now living through are unusual and indeed unique. For the first time ever, politicians have ordered their economies into recession; have ordered businesses be destroyed, people lose their jobs.

    But it is still a recession.

    Link.

  170. Roger Avatar
    Roger

    Should the Premier commit now to opening up Queensland at 70-80 per cent vaccinated?
    Yes
    87 %
    No
    13 %
    6582 votes

    The back flip is going to leave her jowls wobbling like plates of jelly.

    I don’t want to look.

  171. Ellen of Tasmania Avatar
    Ellen of Tasmania

    There are just so many wrong hot-takes re Texas/SCOTUS/abortion right now

    On ABC news radio this morning they called the Texas decision ‘draconian’ – with lots of emphasis on that word.

    God help us.

  172. Boambee John Avatar
    Boambee John

    Airlines May Start Banning Cloth Masks (1 Sep)

    The friendly skies are becoming not-so-friendly to passengers wearing cloth masks. Several airlines overseas are already banning cloth masks and requiring that travelers wear surgical masks, FFP2 masks, KN95 or N95 masks without valves on flights.

    For a bunch of people who are trying to make a profit by selling tickets they sure don’t seem to want the punters to buy any of them.

    I would like all airline executives to hold their breath while I get out my cheque book.

    I may be a little while.

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