Open Thread – Weekend 28 Aug 2021


Massacre of the Innocents, Pieter Bruegel the Elder, c. 1565-67

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rosie
rosie
August 29, 2021 7:22 am
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
August 29, 2021 7:29 am

I really like the ‘thumbs up’ sign feature. It saves so much cutting and pasting merely to add +1

rosie
rosie
August 29, 2021 7:31 am

I can’t read all of this, perhaps someone might post an excerpt
why are Catholics being cancelled on campus?

sfw
sfw
August 29, 2021 7:33 am

My son went to the Seymour Bunnings the other day to get some framing pine for a homeproject. He last bought some earlier this year at $1.75 (or so) lineal metre. Yesterday is was $3.90/metre and they were out of stock. Only a sample point but scary.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
August 29, 2021 7:34 am

Thanks for taking good care of this site, Dover.
Without oversight of some sort, well, we can see what happens.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
August 29, 2021 7:35 am

Quartermain suffers from the delusion that Andrews is normal.
As they used to say “you’d have to tie a chop around his neck to get the dog to play with him.”

calli
calli
August 29, 2021 7:36 am

Can we have a “thumbs down” to provide contestants for Saturday Night gladiatorial stoushes?

To be held in the bowels of FlashCat until the fateful moment.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
August 29, 2021 7:36 am

sfw, there is a lot of inflation around. I rang for an Indian Curry last nite using an old menu from a year ago. Meals priced at $18 have now moved up to $26. I know that times are tough for restaurants and I don’t mind paying the extra, but the rises do seem fairly steep and I wonder if they will remain high later.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
August 29, 2021 7:41 am

Apologies to Toby Greene from GWS.
It looked like he bumped the umpire on the way past but on slow motion the umpire turns just at the last moment to continue to talk to him.
Horse punch stuff and I fell for it.

calli
calli
August 29, 2021 7:43 am

I told youse steel wholesale had risen over 40% in the last year. The Americans have been whinging about lumber prices for over a year, and the cost of fuel since old dementia started ruling them.

The time to lock in a contracted building price has come and gone. The kids are so indebted via mortgages that even a tiny interest rate rise will cause huge distress. Can’t say I didn’t warn them to reduce debt while they could.

Get ready for the inflation vortex.

rosie
rosie
August 29, 2021 7:45 am
Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 29, 2021 7:46 am

Another song for absented friends.

I’m banned everywhere, man
‘Cross the deserts bare, man
I’ve breathed the mountain air, man
Of travel I’ve had my share, man
I’m banned ev’rywhere

I’m banned at Old Cat, New Cat, Flash Cat, Dash Cat, Fat Cat, Flat Cat, Discord, my Lord

I’m banned everywhere, man

rosie
rosie
August 29, 2021 7:51 am

Isn’t housing costs a supply and demand thing that should sort itself out eventually, a problem exacerbated by governments everywhere handling out ‘free’ money.
us inflation covud recovery boost

rosie
rosie
August 29, 2021 7:53 am

Poking the bear, Sancho?
It was almost like old times reading the fill in the blanks overnight banter.

calli
calli
August 29, 2021 7:54 am

His comments are still up at DashCat, Higgins.

Adam’s tolerance levels appear to be much higher than Dover’s.

Gab
Gab
August 29, 2021 7:56 am

Well done, Dover.

rosie
rosie
August 29, 2021 8:00 am

They say moderated though calli.
I’m not sure how that works but I think someone might have been put into permanent moderation a couple of weeks ago.
Not sure how the comments get released.

rosie
rosie
August 29, 2021 8:02 am

Andrews is definitely not in range normal.

calli
calli
August 29, 2021 8:02 am

“Moderated” simply means that Adam has received a flag, looked at it and released it.

“Mostly harmless” until it isn’t. Different sites, different rules. As it should be.

rickw
rickw
August 29, 2021 8:03 am

Don’t get me wrong; I’m not one of these “Oh, it’s just the flu” supporters.

You’re right, it’s only about half as deadly as a decent flu.

Gab
Gab
August 29, 2021 8:05 am

More people died of suicide in 2020 in Australia than they did of the covid flu.

rosie
rosie
August 29, 2021 8:06 am

I don’t think so calli, not in this case.
There was a strong suggestion by the moderatee on discord that he might be in permanent moderation at the dash.

calli
calli
August 29, 2021 8:13 am

His past comments are still posted and viewable. Future comments may not be. We shall see.

Nothing to stop anyone creating a new persona here or anywhere else, of course. The perils of DashCat are not lost on me, as you will be well aware, rosie.

Mater
August 29, 2021 8:15 am

Bruce,
Read, enjoyed and agreed with your comment.

rosie
rosie
August 29, 2021 8:16 am

Saw that phoenix rising from the ashes yesterday.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 29, 2021 8:17 am

callisays:

August 29, 2021 at 7:54 am

His comments are still up at DashCat, Higgins.

Adam’s tolerance levels appear to be much higher than Dover’s.

Ha ha.
He (or someone) has invented a character called Jeff Lorrie (sp) who allegedly emailed the Faultster back last year and now is allegedly and apparently threatening AdamD with defamation.
The Faultser has apparently and allegedly sent AdamD the “smoking gun written evidence”.
As PsyOps go, it is pretty lame.
Godwyn Grech standard.

Zatara
Zatara
August 29, 2021 8:23 am

sfw (from 0733)

I just priced wood planking to replace my lanai deck.

Where I am it seems that due to inflation of commodity prices synthetic wood is now cheaper than real wood, never requires re-staining, and will still be here when cockroaches have inherited the earth.

Easiest decision I’ve made in eons.

miltonf
miltonf
August 29, 2021 8:24 am

has the old creep gone? hope so

Indolent
Indolent
August 29, 2021 8:24 am

More people died of suicide in 2020 in Australia than they did of the covid flu.

Any figures? That might be something useful to drum into people’s heads.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 29, 2021 8:26 am

rosiesays:

August 29, 2021 at 8:00 am

They say moderated though calli.
I’m not sure how that works but I think someone might have been put into permanent moderation a couple of weeks ago.

That is my understanding.

Entropy
Entropy
August 29, 2021 8:27 am

When you see the intensive breeding farms as in that vid the possibility of disease outbreaks is obvious.

In the case of pigs, those intensive breeding farms and the farm quarantine aspects of pig production keeping it all disease free is what keeps us all in bacon.I would never eat wild pig myself.

The risk of course is if the African Swine fever gets into a piggery, it’s 80% mortality. In a couple of days. Because of Australia’s quarantine practices(ports and on farm), we are less likely to get ASF or Foot and Mouth disease. But it would only take one breach and we are talking $B and $B. Apparently for ASF the big risks is families sneaking in infected meat from Asia then fed to the family pig (a bigger risk in Darwin than elsewhere would you believe), or island hopping on local boats across the TSIs with pigs brought as gifts or trade.
Interesting as to how it might propagate if that is the case, how well it would spread in the feral population, and how it could get into a modern Australian piggery. It kills ferals very quick, which might limit spread.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 29, 2021 8:27 am

miltonfsays:

August 29, 2021 at 8:24 am

has the old creep gone? hope so

Smoted.
All we see is Sancho’s replies.
Which makes Sancho look even sillier than usual.

calli
calli
August 29, 2021 8:30 am

On the “I see dead people” level…or sillier? 😀

Tom
Tom
August 29, 2021 8:32 am

I’m not paying sufficient attention. Who was smote?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 29, 2021 8:32 am

callisays:

August 29, 2021 at 8:30 am

On the “I see dead people” level…or sillier? 

Kind of Grandpa Simpson shouting at the clouds level.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 29, 2021 8:34 am

Tomsays:

August 29, 2021 at 8:32 am

I’m not paying sufficient attention. Who was smote?

A number of comments by a chap called Peter Sawyer have disappeared into the ether.

miltonf
miltonf
August 29, 2021 8:36 am

@sancho p thank God for that.

calli
calli
August 29, 2021 8:36 am

Be thankful it wasn’t you Tom.

At least you’re sensible. I live in constant terror of the banhammer.

shatterzzz
August 29, 2021 8:36 am

RESPECT … !
https://ibb.co/DffdMVR

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 29, 2021 8:38 am

Tom.
How many winners did Jamie Kah ride yesterday?
(Ducks behind couch).

calli
calli
August 29, 2021 8:39 am

Lol. A couple of lines and I’ve flushed out another one at DashCat. Could be Bird. The usual subject.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 29, 2021 8:41 am

miltonfsays:

August 29, 2021 at 8:36 am

@sancho p thank God for that.

He is now trying Dash-Cat as a last resort.
Which is absolutely perfect.
Light moderation and obsessive commenting.
Just the combination that is required for the Master-Plan to work.

Tom
Tom
August 29, 2021 8:41 am

Sancho at 8.34am, that sounds like another Graeme Bird Trojan horse. Dover is aware what a cunning, determined and demented arsehole he is.

srr
srr
August 29, 2021 8:44 am

Via Zipster’sOpen Thread –

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-58364742
BBC News
Canada election: Justin Trudeau rally cancelled after angry protests
Jeering crowds force the Canadian prime minister to call off an election campaign event.

============================================================

Now that’s a hearty sign in a cousin country that’s also been under the tyranny of a Govt sacrificing it’s citizens to the Global Cathedral Woke Greens … bloody Triffids, they need salting the world over

John H.
John H.
August 29, 2021 8:45 am

Indolentsays:
August 29, 2021 at 8:24 am
More people died of suicide in 2020 in Australia than they did of the covid flu.

Any figures? That might be something useful to drum into people’s heads.

Morrison once stated he wanted the suicide rate to be zero.

Up to 2019.

https://www.aihw.gov.au/suicide-self-harm-monitoring/data/deaths-by-suicide-in-australia/suicide-deaths-over-time

calli
calli
August 29, 2021 8:45 am

No, Tom. Peter is a real person, full of grief and loneliness and pain and the need to convince others of his ideas on “how things really are”.

Bird, on the other hand, is doing a download at DashCat even as we speak.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 29, 2021 8:45 am

Tom.
Some here are reasonably sure it was the artist formerly known as Faulty.

rosie
rosie
August 29, 2021 8:46 am

I wanted to go to the Casa de Cervantes in Valladolid but it was Monday so it was closed.
So I went to the museum in the basement of the Augustinian monastery instead which was probably much more interesting as they had lots and lots of cool stuff bought back by their missionaries to South America, the Philippines etc.
I had almost forgotten I had been to Valladolid but the memories flood back, I stayed was a shared airbnb in the home of a young couple where the very young South American wife clearly did not like her husband’s profitable sideline. It was the very last time I subjected myself to such awkwardness. The third bedroom was occupied by a rabbit but he was also poor company.
I did enjoy watching the final Sunday Santa Semana procession with many ladies wearing mantillas y peinatas and the Easter mass in the cathedral.

Who ever thought going to mass would be a rarely enjoyed luxury?

Dot
Dot
August 29, 2021 8:48 am

I can’t take a blog seriously until I am banned.

Time to call up Ray Martin, Slugs & Grubs and dig for the old box of SKS longarms.

Hmmmm. Must rememorise the lyrics to Bringing in Sheaves.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 29, 2021 8:49 am

Remember Faulty?
Who wanted to facilitate a website where we could happily dox all and sundry?
And threatened Sinc’s family?
Now, I am not convinced it is one and the same person, but some seem to be.

Dot
Dot
August 29, 2021 8:50 am

Imagine if Bird always was a puppet of Faulty’s.

That would be too funny.

rosie
rosie
August 29, 2021 8:50 am

He landed yesterday afternoon calli, in all his usual glory but I couldn’t be bothered.

Tom
Tom
August 29, 2021 8:52 am

Sancho at 8.38am, my girl Jamie Kah got on the piss last Wednesday night because she’s having boyfriend issues. Sadly, she will lose most of the next year’s income because she has been banned from riding for the entire spring carnival. Moral of the story: don’t get on the piss when you’re feeling emotionally fragile — especially hard when you’re a good-looking chick.

calli
calli
August 29, 2021 8:52 am

Yes, I saw that too, rosie. Just had to make sure. If I can do it, then it must be tragically easy.

srr
srr
August 29, 2021 8:53 am

Eric Clapton Releases New Song Pushing Back Against COVID Dictates and Totalitarian Government, “This Has Gotta Stop”
August 28, 2021 | Sundance | 140 Comments

It’s good to have slowhand on team freedom. Legendary singer and songwriter Eric Clapton has released a new song in defense of freedom as the totalitarian dictates of the various COVID authorities destroy the lives of people everywhere. WATCH:
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2021/08/28/eric-clapton-releases-new-song-pushing-back-against-covid-dictates-and-totalitarian-government-this-has-gotta-stop/

rosie
rosie
August 29, 2021 8:53 am

Dot was it you that suggested claiming your anonymous online persona had been defamed would be laughed out of court?

calli
calli
August 29, 2021 8:55 am

Kah should get some tips from Higgins. Not not this one, the other one.

If you’re going to commit an indiscretion, do it in PH. In a minister’s office. Then cry “murder” a couple of years later.

Like Cluedo, but without a body. Keeps everyone guessing and you don’t need any evidence. They’ll love you for it.

Tom
Tom
August 29, 2021 8:58 am

Tom.
Some here are reasonably sure it was the artist formerly known as Faulty.

Ah, yes. Thanks, Sancho. The name he used rings a bell.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 29, 2021 9:00 am

rosiesays:

August 29, 2021 at 8:53 am

Dot was it you that suggested claiming your anonymous online persona had been defamed would be laughed out of court?

Which is why we need to be wary about people persistantly and overtly creating links between their real identity and an online persona.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 29, 2021 9:01 am

Tomsays:

August 29, 2021 at 8:58 am

Tom.
Some here are reasonably sure it was the artist formerly known as Faulty.

Ah, yes. Thanks, Sancho. The name he used rings a bell.

Some say that is who it is, but I don’t think so.

Dot
Dot
August 29, 2021 9:03 am

It wasn’t me.

I believe that is correct however.

You would have to doxx yourself to begin an action unless you got suppression orders. How could you justify that?

Plus, so many people have also used their real names they can’t claim their privacy has been breached.

“My online persona has been defamed”

1. Is that even possible? (Probably not).
2. What is the quantum of damages? (Likely zero).

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
August 29, 2021 9:04 am

Thanks Tom for Week In Pictures.

Fucking Dementia Joe getting a richly deserved pillocking

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
August 29, 2021 9:04 am

As The Donald says…..”missing me yet?”

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
August 29, 2021 9:05 am

94 for TaliDan today.
Public executions to begin on Monday.

Crossie
Crossie
August 29, 2021 9:06 am

rosie says:
August 29, 2021 at 8:46 am
I wanted to go to the Casa de Cervantes in Valladolid but it was Monday so it was closed.
So I went to the museum in the basement of the Augustinian monastery instead

***************

When we were in Granada a couple of years ago we were booked on a tour of Alhambra it they were overbooked and our booking was cancelled. We had a tour of the town instead and a walk through the Ferdinand and Isabella crypt which turned out to be even better.

On the same trip while in Zagreb we went to the Sunday Mass in their cathedral with songs and some responses in Latin, I could even follow some of it. It brought back childhood memories of all Masses being in Latin.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 29, 2021 9:08 am

Barking Toadsays:

August 29, 2021 at 9:04 am

Thanks Tom for Week In Pictures.

Fucking Dementia Joe getting a richly deserved pillocking

The world is awash with demented old grifters looking for a quick payday.

rosie
rosie
August 29, 2021 9:17 am

Crossing the Ferdinand and Isabella tomb is fantastic. I loved the inscription 😉
I never realised how hard it is to book Alhambra; both times I’ve gone in winter, first time we just rocked up, no problem, second time I knew it might be more difficult so we arrived before opening time, I was about the last person to snag a casual entry, the official didn’t beckon my son over but I bought him a ticket and called him over to show his passport, security was much much stricter inside too, with sniffer dogs and bag checks, iirc that was January 2019.

min
min
August 29, 2021 9:22 am

W in P thanks Tom funny but painfully true.

Mater
August 29, 2021 9:30 am

From the Pfizer Press Release of 1 Apr 2021:

Analysis of 927 confirmed symptomatic cases of COVID-19 demonstrates BNT162b2 is highly effective with 91.3% vaccine efficacy observed against COVID-19, measured seven days through up to six months after the second dose

Bob from 2019:

1735099
#3115525, posted on July 25, 2019 at 6:36 pm
…That turnout means that 43.1% of voters had no say in the outcome, and of the 56.9% who did, the majority (48.2%) didn’t vote for Trump.
Or put another way, 91.3% (48.2% + 43.1%) didn’t vote for the incumbent.

Coincidence? I think not!

“You are about to enter another dimension, a dimension not only of sight and sound but of mind. A journey into a wondrous land of imagination. Next stop, the Twilight Zone!”

😉

Cassie of Sydney
August 29, 2021 9:31 am

Thank you Dover.

Boambee John
Boambee John
August 29, 2021 9:31 am

Farmer Gezsays:
August 29, 2021 at 9:05 am
94 for TaliDan today.
Public executions to begin on Monday.

We haven’t seen Perry the Very Tedious One babbling on about the “Iron Pyrites” standard for a while. Is that because his dream boy Dan of the Dead has (again) stumbled into a new disaster?

feelthebern
feelthebern
August 29, 2021 9:34 am

94 for TaliDan today.

Victorians woke up to the fact months ago, don’t get tested.
Just stay at home.

feelthebern
feelthebern
August 29, 2021 9:35 am

The testing rates in NSW are off the chart.
I’m sure the payment you are entitled to while sitting at home waiting for your covid result has nothing to do with it.

feelthebern
feelthebern
August 29, 2021 9:36 am

It’s like the CARES act, US hospitals get a 25% increased payment if the patient tests positive for COVID.
If that federal payment was stopped, the incentive would go.

rickw
rickw
August 29, 2021 9:38 am

Where I am it seems that due to inflation of commodity prices synthetic wood is now cheaper than real wood, never requires re-staining, and will still be here when cockroaches have inherited the earth.

If this gets a lot of direct sunlight it may not be the go. Local pub installed this under a shade clothed area. Was like sitting above a frying pan even on only moderately sunny days.

johanna
johanna
August 29, 2021 9:40 am

Tom, so sorry to see Jaimie Kah brutally penalised for behaving like a normal young woman. Getting on the piss with a few friends when you have had love trouble is perfectly comprehensible to ordinary people.

Can she appeal? It seems totally disproportionate to me. Plus, what a leg-up for the lesser jockeys and owners who compete with her. Hmmm …

calli
calli
August 29, 2021 9:41 am

Was like sitting above a frying pan even on only moderately sunny days.

Try using it as decking in full sunlight. Little ones get out if the pool, bare feet – burnt and blistered soles. Even I can’t walk on it without shoes. The only sensible application in most of Australia is on the dingy “dead side” of the house.

rosie
rosie
August 29, 2021 9:42 am
Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
August 29, 2021 9:43 am

In Hermit Kingdom news:

Majority of voters back vaccine passports, mandatory jabs for high-risk workers

Luckily only 48% agree with making The Jab mandatory for all.

Delta A
Delta A
August 29, 2021 9:44 am

Very funny WiP.

Thanks, Tom.

miltonf
miltonf
August 29, 2021 9:47 am

So government deficits don’t seem to matter after all? Makes me wonder wonder why I have been punitively taxed for decades.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 29, 2021 9:49 am

Try using it as decking in full sunlight.

Don’t know about now, but the earlier stuff was prone to brittleness after long UV exposure.

Dot
Dot
August 29, 2021 9:56 am

Australians are a sick, sad people.

Zatara
Zatara
August 29, 2021 9:58 am

Was like sitting above a frying pan even on only moderately sunny days.

Thanks to both of you for the feedback. I was concerned about just that so I’m going to order a decent sized sample of this stuff first to see if their claims as to reducing heat absorption are accurate. Will report back if it works.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
August 29, 2021 9:58 am

August 28th
NSW
129,182 tests
138,694 vaccinations

Victoria
51,030 tests
73,938 vaccinations.

Testing up the nose on the nose in Danistan.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 29, 2021 9:59 am

rosiesays:

August 29, 2021 at 8:53 am

Dot was it you that suggested claiming your anonymous online persona had been defamed would be laughed out of court?

I think that was Leigh Lowe.
And I have reason to suspect he/she/ze is a lawyer.

feelthebern
feelthebern
August 29, 2021 9:59 am

Alex Berenson has been permanently suspended by twitter.
He got a lot of stuff wrong.
He made a lot of corrections to his errors.
He owned up when he was deleting a tweet because it was wrong.
But he’s been more right than Fauci.
Who’s done more damage?

feelthebern
feelthebern
August 29, 2021 10:01 am

Joe Biden falling asleep in front of the Israeli PM is troubling.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 29, 2021 10:03 am

feelthebernsays:

August 29, 2021 at 10:01 am

Joe Biden falling asleep in front of the Israeli PM is troubling.

It’s OK.
They have the footage of George Bush Snr throwing up on the Japanese PM ready to go.

feelthebern
feelthebern
August 29, 2021 10:04 am

Pete Evans has some crack pot ideas that were stupid, but did no harm to anyone.
Pete Evans has had 1000’s of testimonials over the years from people who have turned their lives around by turning the food pyramid upside & ditching the CSIRO diet.
But Pete Evans is banned?
And the food pyramid gets tax payer funding to turn people into diabetics?

Rabz
August 29, 2021 10:06 am

He’ll no doubt be very unhappy about this, but it isn’t any big secret.

Peter Sawyer is Memory Vault. He is not Bird (currently using the nom de guerre “Fat Jabba”) as far as I’m aware.

PS also knows where all the AK47s in WA are buried.

JC
JC
August 29, 2021 10:08 am

The world is awash with demented old grifters looking for a quick payday.

One was arse kicked off the site only last evening.

feelthebern
feelthebern
August 29, 2021 10:08 am

Things that need to occur.
Full disclosure of which social media influencers were paid to promote government policies re COVID19 & vaccines.
Not doing so is the same as Alan Jones & cash-for-comment.
AJ’s enemies still bring that up.

Full disclosure of the exemptions list (travel, quarantine & work).

calli
calli
August 29, 2021 10:10 am

Rabz! Say it isn’t soooooooo! 😛

rosie
rosie
August 29, 2021 10:11 am

I was reading an Alex Berenson thread last night and now he’s gone?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 29, 2021 10:11 am

Rabzsays:

August 29, 2021 at 10:06 am

He’ll no doubt be very unhappy about this, but it isn’t any big secret.

Peter Sawyer is Memory Vault.

Really?
I doubt it.

Dot
Dot
August 29, 2021 10:12 am

LOL

Sam Vankin just made a video saying if you are vaccine hesitant, you’re a narcissistic, selfish, etc psychopath.

Pull ‘im out of the oven lads, he’s cooked.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
August 29, 2021 10:14 am

Sancho (Mark IV) Panzer:

He (or someone) has invented a character called Jeff Lorrie (sp) who allegedly emailed the Faultster back last year and now is allegedly and apparently threatening AdamD with defamation.

It would have been immensely more entertaining had he invented a Bill Lorrie (sp).

‘Got him, yesss!’

Dot
Dot
August 29, 2021 10:15 am

Yes Bern.

Disagree with diet “experts” that have never done anything physical past 25 and hold the precautionary principle for COVID vaccines and you’re a granny killing psycho.

Delta A
Delta A
August 29, 2021 10:16 am

Really?
I doubt it.

It’s true.

MV disclosed his name – Peter Sawyer – a few years ago on the old Cat. This was after his offer of help to someone. Can’t recall all the details, and not interested enough to look it up.

Zatara
Zatara
August 29, 2021 10:17 am

They have the footage of George Bush Snr throwing up on the Japanese PM ready to go.

Ah well, the Japanese shot him down in 1944 and he narrowly avoided capture on an island infamous for Japanese cannibalism of Allied POWS, possibly including his crew.

So fair play to him.

Mater
August 29, 2021 10:17 am

This deserves reporting here:

More than 40 NSW children and teenagers rushed to hospital for self-harm every day

The COVID-19 pandemic and prolonged lockdown are severely damaging the mental health of young people in NSW, with emergency department visits for self-harm and suicidal ideation up 31 per cent for children and teenagers compared with last year.

NSW Chief Psychiatrist Murray Wright told The Sun-Herald the ongoing lockdown, while necessary for public health reasons, was especially hard for adolescents who made up the bulk of self-harm and mental health problems in the 0-17 age group.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
August 29, 2021 10:17 am

Seriously.

That was one of the best WIPs I’ve ever seen. Superb quality, with an all-star cast.

Dual podium goes to the Time cover meme and Rex ‘reading’ in bed.

Honourable mentions to Dog Day in Australia, the G7 toon (also from earlier in the week), and the before and after Taliban pieces.

Mater
August 29, 2021 10:18 am

Reposting

Mater
August 29, 2021 10:21 am

More than 40 NSW children and teenagers rushed to hospital for self-harm every day

Wrap your heads around how the Victorian kids must be going.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 29, 2021 10:22 am

Knuckle Draggersays:

August 29, 2021 at 10:17 am

Seriously.

That was one of the best WIPs I’ve ever seen. 

I particularly liked the Last Supper.
“One of you shall betray me.
And … “(no spoilers)

Franx
Franx
August 29, 2021 10:23 am

Referring to the corrupt political class as the ‘Cathedral’ has overtones of implicating the Catholic Church, the negative connotations being that the Church is the ‘seat’ of the corrupters. It’s unclear whether this effect is intentional or not.

calli
calli
August 29, 2021 10:23 am

That explains our “full” hospitals then.

Cassie of Sydney
August 29, 2021 10:26 am

“But Pete Evans is banned?”

Like Donald Trump is banned from Twitter and Facebook, Craig Kelly is banned from Facebook but the Taliban and the theocratic Iranian regime (and other unsavoury groups) are all allowed on Twitter and Facebook.

And you know what, you’re right Bern, whilst Evans does have some crackpot theories he’s 100% right about the “Food Pyramid”….which has been catastrophic to the western diet over the last half a century and which is largely to blame for both the rise in obesity and Diabetes Type 2 in the west.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 29, 2021 10:29 am

This was after his offer of help to someone. Can’t recall all the details, and not interested enough to look it up.

Yes, he does seem like a very helping kind of gentleman.

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
August 29, 2021 10:33 am

2dogs says:
August 29, 2021 at 7:05 am
My prediction of huge inflation after the restrictions are lifted is coming true in the US.
Not here in Oz yet because we are still under restrictions.

Therefore we will never have inflation in Australia.
QED.

Baba
Baba
August 29, 2021 10:33 am

Pierre Kory, MD MPA Retweeted

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The FDA, the CDC, major media & others hope you’ll believe them when they tell you that IVM was meant only for animals, & that it’s dangerous to use for C19. You know what the worst thing is about such a bald-faced lie? It’s knowing that your life just wasn’t worth the truth.

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
August 29, 2021 10:37 am

Thanks for WIP Tom.
My favourite was “Official Portrait of 46”.
Pathos, humour, truth, and sickening despair all in one cartoon. Excellent stuff.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
August 29, 2021 10:38 am

Wrap your heads around how the Victorian kids must be going.

This was correctly pointed out by Mater and a couple of others a year ago. You do not get those crucial years back, and you only get one go at it.

Much like small business, the cretins in government seem to believe that you can just turn children on and off when it suits.

This is, in all likelihood, what happens when your decision makers have never worked in the private sector, and/or have never had children.

Dot
Dot
August 29, 2021 10:42 am

You mean I can’t freeze a childhood like a gym membership?

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
August 29, 2021 10:43 am

You mean I can’t freeze a childhood like a gym membership?

You exactly cannot do that.

Excellent analogy.

Tom
Tom
August 29, 2021 10:49 am

Tom, so sorry to see Jaimie Kah brutally penalised for behaving like a normal young woman. Getting on the piss with a few friends when you have had love trouble is perfectly comprehensible to ordinary people.
Can she appeal? It seems totally disproportionate to me.

Jamie Kah, who won last season’s Melbourne metropolitan jockeys premiership – winning more races (105) than any other jockey in history, male or female – was one of four jockeys rubbed out last week for three months for staging a house party after Victoria’s 9pm curfew. Kah has since apologised for letting so many people down.

The bottom line is that the horse racing industry was one of the first sports in Australia to be allowed to continue – without crowds – provided it adhered to draconian restrictions on the movements if its personnel.

The key to the continued financial health of horse racing in Australia, is that (unlike every other country on earth) it is largely financed by levies on gambling revenue scooped up by former government monopolies like the state totalisator agency boards (TABs).

That is why Racing Victoria cracked down so harshly on her and the other jockeys: their actions not only threatened their own livelihoods, but the industry’s financial health, via its heavily regulated relationships with state governments.

As a horsewoman, Jamie Kah is a genius. But she’s also human and has the same human problems as other young people.

JC
JC
August 29, 2021 10:50 am

“My prediction of huge inflation after the restrictions are lifted is coming true in the US.
Not here in Oz yet because we are still under restrictions.”
—————————————————

This doesn’t make sense, Dogs.

If your claim is correct then inflation should be hitting us hard now- when restrictions are upon us and not when things loosen up.

Also, markets don’t appear to agree with you.

johanna
johanna
August 29, 2021 10:50 am

Yes indeed, thinking back to when I was a teenager it was sun and surf, freedom to go where you liked, pashing at parties (we were pretty innocent), great music, and fun, fun, fun a la The Beach Boys.

Those poor kids, who have had potentially the best time of their lives before grim reality crashes in taken away from them by a bunch of neurotic control freaks and gutless polliemuppets.

It is particularly reprehensible because they are at almost zero risk of getting sick even if they contract COVID. That goes for all children, not just teenagers.

I can only conclude that there is a nasty streak of sadism in the ruling classes – you know, the ones who are always lecturing us about ’empathy.’

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
August 29, 2021 10:52 am

Ah, a little search on DDG tells me Jamie Kah was NOT banned from the Victorian Spring Racing Carnival for getting drunk and trashing an AirBnB.

Jamie Kah WAS banned from the Victorian Spring Racing Carnival for the heinous crime of breaching Victoria’s coronavirus protocols and Melbourne’s night-time curfew.

So the Stewards have fallen hook line and sinker for Chairman Dan’s insane vitriol against those who “do the wrong thing”.

Yet another example of fear driving stupid and excessive responses to the lies and violence emanating from our Australian governments. Once the feardemic spreads into the population, governments can sit back and let their dirty work get done by others.

The stewards are pawns in a dirty game. Their vindictive ruling is approaching the callousness of the 4 year ban on Dawn Fraser in 1964. I hope Kah appeals and gets some light shone on the inordinate punishment.

Shy Ted
Shy Ted
August 29, 2021 10:52 am

I see Pieter Bruegel the Elder painted during periods of global warming. Some cracking funny memes around this morning but NSFW. All of them. Or NSFYRC (not safe for you refined Cats). Perhaps how VWs are made.

calli
calli
August 29, 2021 10:56 am

I can only conclude that there is a nasty streak of sadism in the ruling classes – you know, the ones who are always lecturing us about ’empathy.’

Just had the saddest little video message from my six year old granddaughter – all she wants to do is sit on my knee for a “cuddle”. The little, thin face, the pallor from confinement in a unit, the messy hair, wistful voice. Heartbreaking.

Like little puppies, today is all they know. They just don’t have our concept of time.

Dot
Dot
August 29, 2021 10:57 am

Brad Hazzard’s wiki edited to illuminate his genius and righteousness.

Nothing NSFW there.

calli
calli
August 29, 2021 11:02 am

Ahahaha!

Brad is a big believer in medical fascism. It’s for your own good, peasant. Besides the fact that zero COVID is positively psychotic, bow to the hat on the square or else. It’s very important that you bow to a symbol of government authority. Good job on enabling ACTUAL anti-vaxxers, chowder head (not to mentioning destroying trust in government at all).
PS how do you get herd immunity (80% of the population effectively vaccinated) if vaccine efficacy is 60%?
Does 8/6 = 1.33? Maybe because Brad is so clever, he can vaccinate 133% of the population.

Comedy gold. 😀

calli
calli
August 29, 2021 11:02 am

I’m disappointed.

No VC.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
August 29, 2021 11:02 am

Wiki:

Brad is a big believer in medical fascism. It’s for your own good, peasant. Besides the fact that zero COVID is positively psychotic, bow to the hat on the square or else. It’s very important that you bow to a symbol of government authority. Good job on enabling ACTUAL anti-vaxxers, chowder head (not to mentioning destroying trust in government at all).

PS how do you get herd immunity (80% of the population effectively vaccinated) if vaccine efficacy is 60%?

Does 8/6 = 1.33? Maybe because Brad is so clever, he can vaccinate 133% of the population.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
August 29, 2021 11:03 am

Snap calli!

You’e correct, of course. No Ugandan decorations.

JMH
JMH
August 29, 2021 11:04 am

Those poor kids, who have had potentially the best time of their lives before grim reality crashes in taken away from them by a bunch of neurotic control freaks and gutless polliemuppets.

It is particularly reprehensible because they are at almost zero risk of getting sick even if they contract COVID. That goes for all children, not just teenagers.

I can only conclude that there is a nasty streak of sadism in the ruling classes – you know, the ones who are always lecturing us about ’empathy.’

And how is our mental health system intending to cope with re-occurrence of mental health problems these poor kids are probably going to experience into the future. A puff of smoke won’t disappear them.

calli
calli
August 29, 2021 11:04 am

Quicks Draw McGraw strikes again.

No medal for you, Baba Louie.

Dot
Dot
August 29, 2021 11:08 am

I gave him the Australian Police Medal as ‘Elf Minister.

JC
JC
August 29, 2021 11:09 am

I think people need to get comfortable with a slightly higher inflation rate over the next decade at least. A slight higher inflation rate will mean something treading close to the target set by the central bank. It’s nothing to worry about.

And lets remember this one economic law if there ever was one. In a fiat currency regime, the central bank can set nominal GDP wherever it wants. The difference between real and nominal is essentially the inflation rate.

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
August 29, 2021 11:11 am

Dot. Re HapHazzard.
Is this yours too?
“Given his strident commitment to punishing scofflaws and independent minded citizens, he was awarded the Australian Police Medal (APM) in 2021 by Premier Gladys Berejiklian for his services to to the people of New South Wales as Health Minister.”

Delta A
Delta A
August 29, 2021 11:11 am

he does seem like a very helping kind of gentleman.

Surprised you don’t remember. You usually have excellent recall of past Cat happenings.

Peter*, AKA Memory Vault, was always eager to help, and to be seen to be helping.

It was quite awkward at times.

*There was also a time when he specifically asked to be addressed as ‘Peter’. Sheesh! Am I the only Cat here whose memory isn’t shot to blazes? (Smiley face.)

calli
calli
August 29, 2021 11:11 am

I think the “Ruby Princess Memorial Prize” might be appropriate too.

Plus Oak Cluster and Bar.

JC
JC
August 29, 2021 11:13 am

And how is our mental health system intending to cope with re-occurrence of mental health problems these poor kids are probably going to experience into the future. A puff of smoke won’t disappear them.

Because 98% of mental health issues suffered because of lock-down will be gone once lockdowns end. There’s a term for what they are suffering. It’s called situational depression. Once the lockdowns pass so will lockdown induced depression.

Dot
Dot
August 29, 2021 11:14 am

Yes, that was me, have to be more subtle so this lasts longer.

Very hard to resist typing out der Grossneusudwalen Reich volk…

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
August 29, 2021 11:14 am

Andrews condemning Victorians to more LockDan.
Desperate sicko bringing on performing seals from sport and medicine to scare the children and chain the adults.
Sheiks being thanked for the encore.
I’m ashamed and humiliated to be a Victorian.

MatrixTransform
August 29, 2021 11:17 am

It’s nothing to worry about.

** unless you work in hospitality

Cassie of Sydney
August 29, 2021 11:19 am

“*There was also a time when he specifically asked to be addressed as ‘Peter’. Sheesh! Am I the only Cat here whose memory isn’t shot to blazes? (Smiley face.)”

Delta…your memory is spot on.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
August 29, 2021 11:19 am

To hear about your sad grand daughter Calli is the by-product of these insane politicians.
Just highlights their stupidity and how they absolve themselves of any responsibility by deflecting blame to unelected, dumb, non-practicing, alleged health experts.
To wit, the stupid cloth-eared bint in SA …….”don’t touch the football if it gets kicked over the fence” and the equally insane one in QLD ….”hold off ordering groceries on-line for 2-3 days and don’t open your front door”.
And don’t get me started on the mandible with the moustache in NSW.
Or the nancy boy in VIC.
No wonder we fucking drink!

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
August 29, 2021 11:19 am

There was also a time when he specifically asked to be addressed as ‘Peter’

Glaringly obvious bait.

Much like his attempts to have a crack at a Senate seat, for which he would use the public cash that came with it for The Cause rather than the intended necessary administration.

Funny old nuffy he is.

feelthebern
feelthebern
August 29, 2021 11:23 am

Because 98% of mental health issues suffered because of lock-down will be gone once lockdowns end.

JC, we’re in uncharted waters on this one.
Especially Victoria.

feelthebern
feelthebern
August 29, 2021 11:29 am

The reason why it’s uncharted waters is because there has never been a period of time where there’s been in real life isolation at the same time there has been such ubiquitous use of social media (fake life).

Like all dislocations, there will be ones that will adapt and thrive.
But it’s hard seeing how 2 years of disrupting education won’t result in a generation of social issues.
Social issues that we probably don’t even know exist at this time.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
August 29, 2021 11:29 am

Social issues that we probably don’t even know exist at this time.

Damn straight.

Shy Ted
Shy Ted
August 29, 2021 11:30 am

JCsays: August 29, 2021 at 11:13 am
And how is our mental health system intending to cope with re-occurrence of mental health problems these poor kids are probably going to experience into the future. A puff of smoke won’t disappear them.
Because 98% of mental health issues suffered because of lock-down will be gone once lockdowns end. There’s a term for what they are suffering. It’s called situational depression. Once the lockdowns pass so will lockdown induced depression.

Wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong. On every count. These are already chronic conditions and the brain chemistry has already changed to perpetuate. These are the brains of children and the chemistry is being determined right now and for the last 20 months. The stress chemicals such as cortisol are dominant. The pleasure chemicals are being inhibited. Receptors will fade away. Children are being biologically trained towards a fear response much as Pavlov’ dogs with rewards. From hereon all that will be needed will be the “promise” of a threat and they’ll start salivating “please Mr gummint, save us again” and they’ll do exactly as conditioned.

srr
srr
August 29, 2021 11:31 am

It bears repeating, considering just how many people are influenced by professional influencers who spend years, ‘grooming’ their audiences’ for the purpose of selling them what The Govts of The World are pushing for Global acceptance –

feelthebernsays:
August 29, 2021 at 10:08 am

Things that need to occur.
Full disclosure of which social media influencers were paid to promote government policies re COVID19 & vaccines.
Not doing so is the same as Alan Jones & cash-for-comment.
AJ’s enemies still bring that up.

Full disclosure of the exemptions list (travel, quarantine & work).

Shy Ted
Shy Ted
August 29, 2021 11:34 am

It’s time the media fwits started experiencing some anxiety. On a regular basis. They’re all betas. Won’t be hard. Just a harsh word in passing. Sound of the horn if you see them. No conversation necessary. Think “wait til your father gets home” from your childhood.

JC
JC
August 29, 2021 11:35 am

“*There was also a time when he specifically asked to be addressed as ‘Peter’. Sheesh! Am I the only Cat here whose memory isn’t shot to blazes? (Smiley face.)”

He several times, in attempts to bignote himself, posted links which showed his name. One link was to some ridiculous book he reckons he wrote about climate change listed on Amazon. That had the scumbag’s name as the author. And there were other occasions when his name was linked to links he’d posted.

I actually made a mistake. I posted a excerpt from a piece that trashed that prick from end to end and it carried his name. As soon as I saw it, I emailed* Sinclair to remove, which he did.
He wasn’t doxxed because he had posted his name several times.

One of the funniest things to happen with this prick was that he would blow out his chest pretending he was some big deal and lead people to stuff that was written about him. He “didn’t care”, he said.

Fisk and other did just that 🙂

* email sent to Sinclair

15 December 2018 at 1:10:13 am AEDT
To: Sinclair

I have inadvertently posted Sawyer’s name on an excerpt from the Journal. It’s below. Can you please remove it as it was an error. That’s memory fault.

http://catallaxyfiles.com/2018/12/12/wednesday-forum-december-12-2018/comment-page-8/#comment-2886151

johanna
johanna
August 29, 2021 11:35 am

I wish I shared JC’s confidence that 98% of mental health issues will disappear as soon as lockdowns and restrictions are lifted. BTW, I’d love to know how he came up with that number.

Since there is no end in sight, I don’t see how anyone can make predictions, let alone about such a fuzzy concept as ‘mental health.’

What I can say with rock solid confidence is that children and teenagers have had their lives made miserable for no good reason.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
August 29, 2021 11:38 am

Andrews claiming “we can’t vaccinate fast enough to beat Delta.”
Another bucket of spin for the media swine.
74,000 vaccinations yesterday.
Are we to believe that if the demented drongo dropped lockdown we’d get 75,000 positive cases a day?
That’s double the UK rate with 1/10 of their population and and we’re heading out of winter.

JC
JC
August 29, 2021 11:39 am

Sorry Ted, I’m not buying it. Situational depression is just that. Once you’re away from the situation that makes you depressed, you won’t suffer the impact of situational depression.

But tell me something though. How fucking delicate do you think kids are these days, where there mass suicide if they’re in a comfortable home with their parents and there are all sorts of gadgets around.

On scale of 1 to 10 with 10 being the Bergen-Belsen concentration camp, are you placing the current lockdown impact at 9?

srr
srr
August 29, 2021 11:41 am

mh says:
August 29, 2021 at 11:33 am

Sportsbet don’t have a market on the Canadian election.

Seems odd.

After The Dem/Biden Theft of the last US ‘election’ and all the honest punters who GOT ROBBED BIG, it wouldn’t be surprising if this is the signal that no matter who the people vote for, that sock prancing creep Justin Trudeau will be re-installed, again.

JC
JC
August 29, 2021 11:41 am

whoops.. Will they mass suicide

JC
JC
August 29, 2021 11:46 am

The point I’m making about the comparison with the death camps is that not all the kids were permanently traumatized as a result. They picked themselves up, dusted off and ran normal lives.

Kids/people are far more resilient than what’s made out.

And I’m against lockdowns, but let’s not exaggerate.

Dot
Dot
August 29, 2021 11:47 am

It would be fair to say harden up if the reasons for a lockdown and compulsory vaccinations were not even more weak themselves.

So no. I am not a “pussy” for not getting vaccinated.

If you think I am killing your granny, you are delusional and need a Homer Paxton – one shot of Clonazepam, one shot of Thorazine.

Sure kids are resilient. It is their development that is being messed with.

miltonf
miltonf
August 29, 2021 11:48 am

As I said last night- I wake up in the the morning and think how the hell are these dead shits getting away with what they are doing to us?

rickw
rickw
August 29, 2021 11:49 am

Maybe what this is about is the creation of something along the lines of the movie “In Time”, with available technology.

The objective of the vaccine is not to kill you (mostly) but to create a dependence on the vaccine. Israel and Iceland are of course now lining up for their third or fourth jab in a two jab program. Now they will always need jabs.

If you take the initial jabs, and then realise what this is all about, you lose your social credit and then lose your access to the next vaccine that you need to survive, then your demise is inevitable.

The more I think about it, the more the objective seems to be to create dependence, and through that, control.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_Time

John Brumble
John Brumble
August 29, 2021 11:49 am

“98%”, huh.

My, that’s only four every week. Much better than the vast numbers of children dying with COVID.. oh, wait. No it isn’t.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
August 29, 2021 11:50 am

Joe Morrison has abandoned the Vicghani’s to the TaliDan.

JMH
JMH
August 29, 2021 11:51 am

feelthebern: Unchartered waters, indeed. Mental health/social issues fallout will be huge, in my opinion.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
August 29, 2021 11:52 am

Just off the phonecall from Legal Aid lawyer, re a charge of noncompliance with Mask Orders during air travel.
I’m pleading guilty to expedite the proceedings and will cop the hopefully minimal fine.
Talking with her about my GP’s advice, and advice from another consulting GP, about whether the risk of a recurrent bacterial throat infection outweighed the risk of catching the scamdemic, and/or outweighed the risk of transmitting the scamdemic to the planeload, who were 50% unmasked kids.
My GP weaselled out of an exemption commitment, saying that he probably couldn’t hold up the argument in front of a panel of peers, despite taking me through a tonsillectomy and out the other side, and knowing full well about bacterial pnuemonia in the masks of Spanish Flu.
The Legal Aid lawyer (female, I’d guess 50’s, “partner” but no kids, horses and dogs) started the phonecall asking me if I would get vaccinated and evaded my polite point about the wildly varying official advice over time. Ended the phonecall a bit choked up about the horrors that the WZV and scamdelta had wrought upon her Victorians and the breathless stuff she’d learnt from… Radio National. Despite me politely mentioning the wildly varying official reports of “tests”, “cases”, “hospitalisations” and “deaths”.

So, these two-the GP and the LA- are meant to be the peak of the enlightenment, educated by the longstanding intellectual rigours of University, and informed and honed by the experience of long Practice.
But they’re both like, totally, teenage girls when it comes to peer pressure.

Cassie of Sydney
August 29, 2021 11:56 am

” They picked themselves up, dusted off and ran normal lives.

Kids/people are far more resilient than what’s made out.”

I would agree but knowing death camp survivors….now very elderly…I would argue that the reason why they were able to pick themselves up was because many had religious faith and also society, until recently, was much more intact and structured so even if you weren’t religious, society had expectations of you to fulfil. I once asked a survivor of Auschwitz if she ever thought of the past and she said…yes everyday…but she survived, migrated to Australia, got married and had children. She knew what she had to do. Nowadays too many children and teenagers are growing up without faith, in fractured homes and addicted to social media etc. They’re isolated and they have nothing to believe in.

rickw
rickw
August 29, 2021 11:57 am

Sorry Ted, I’m not buying it. Situational depression is just that. Once you’re away from the situation that makes you depressed, you won’t suffer the impact of situational depression.

JC, I have been discussing this issue frequently with my daughter following a suicide in her class.

One of the threads through this may be family collapse leading to greater impact on the kids. One of the top performers in her class virtually stopped attending school, the backdrop to this was the collapse of the family business due to the impact of lockdowns and all the ensuing impact on the kids parents.

P
P
August 29, 2021 11:57 am

Vaccine coercion is deeply troubling
By Monica Doumit -August 28, 2021 – The Catholic Weekly

Dot
Dot
August 29, 2021 12:00 pm

We’ve got to get cops and prosecutors to walk off the job.

It might be the only way.

JC
JC
August 29, 2021 12:07 pm

Rickw

I believe you.
The 98% figure I mentioned was just for dramatic license. These stories are truly tragic.

Crossie
Crossie
August 29, 2021 12:10 pm

Knuckle Dragger says:
August 29, 2021 at 10:43 am
You mean I can’t freeze a childhood like a gym membership?
You exactly cannot do that.

Excellent analogy.

******************

This horror reminds me of another horror, Anne Frank’s diary. We have to remain hidden and if we are not the police will come.

miltonf
miltonf
August 29, 2021 12:13 pm

Very erudite explanation Dover

Crossie
Crossie
August 29, 2021 12:14 pm

We’ve got to get cops and prosecutors to walk off the job.

It might be the only way.

**************

It will never happen, they are in the power structure, if they rebel they become us – the powerless.

rosie
rosie
August 29, 2021 12:14 pm

Wally

Good to get it behind you

JC
JC
August 29, 2021 12:15 pm

JMH says:
August 29, 2021 at 11:51 am

feelthebern: Unchartered waters, indeed. Mental health/social issues fallout will be huge, in my opinion.

This is coming from the dude, who stoushed with me because I believed he was grovelling to Adam D- the blog owner- fat too much. FMD, the country was running short of apples.

The first thing the dickhead does is attack what he believes is my ethnic background. He’s a caring gent with lots of concerns for the kids. A wholesome peripheral.

JMH, the first thing you need to do when the doors open at psychiatrists rooms is go see one and talk to one about your mental ailments listed here

1. Incessant grovelling
2. Joining posses
3. Attacking people about their ehtnic heritage made worse by the fact that you’re a garden gnome redneck
4. Watching Sky too much.
5. Throwing plates around the kitchen if the prepared food isn’t top notch.

Crossie
Crossie
August 29, 2021 12:18 pm

One of the threads through this may be family collapse leading to greater impact on the kids. One of the top performers in her class virtually stopped attending school, the backdrop to this was the collapse of the family business due to the impact of lockdowns and all the ensuing impact on the kids parents.

*****************

This devastation is first financial and then psychological. Where are all those grief counsellors that descend like a plague after a disaster? Here is suffering on a monumental scale and they are nowhere to be seen.

Arky
August 29, 2021 12:20 pm

JCsays:
August 29, 2021 at 12:15 pm

..
You’re basically that guy at the football who spends the entire game screaming at the umpire or ref.
I understand that some people do that as stress release, and that’s fine.
I just don’t want to sit next to them.
Why don’t you take this shit back to Yob Cat?

John H.
John H.
August 29, 2021 12:21 pm

Cassie of Sydneysays:
August 29, 2021 at 11:56 am
” They picked themselves up, dusted off and ran normal lives.

Kids/people are far more resilient than what’s made out.”

I would agree but knowing death camp survivors….now very elderly…I would argue that the reason why they were able to pick themselves up was because many had religious faith and also society, until recently, was much more intact and structured so even if you weren’t religious, society had expectations of you to fulfil. I once asked a survivor of Auschwitz if she ever thought of the past and she said…yes everyday…but she survived, migrated to Australia, got married and had children. She knew what she had to do. Nowadays too many children and teenagers are growing up without faith, in fractured homes and addicted to social media etc. They’re isolated and they have nothing to believe in.

The term intergenerational trauma was first used in the 1960s in relation to the descendants of Holocaust survivors. Much higher rates of psychiatric disorders in the children, especially if the Holocaust survivor was the mother because mothers were the principal caregivers back then(and to a large extent still are). There may also be a physiological reason for mothers being more prominent(eg. changed stress response). I haven’t followed this through but there is the suggestion that the effect of intergenerational trauma very much diminishes by the 3rd generation.

Compare that to the fatalistic way intergenerational trauma is invoked today in relation to a certain demographic in Australia. The Holocaust survivors came from a very sturdy and strong ethnic group with a huge emphasis on family, work, and faith. There’s a lesson there for the current mob claiming all their problems are because of intergenerational trauma. This is what I am referring too …
EXPLORING INTERGENERATIONAL TRANSMISSION OF TRAUMA IN THIRD GENERA IN THIRD GENERATION HOL TION HOLOCAUST SUR UST SURVIVORS

The third generation appears to be reconstructing their grandparents’ history, resurfacing their legacy, and in doing so they are realizing the strength and heroic battles their grandparents fought in order to get to the place they are today. Findings indicate that rather than ruminating on the pain of their ancestors, focusing attention on their strength may result in the ability to move past the pathological symptoms. Focusing this study on third generation survivors expands scientific knowledge regarding transmission of trauma and provides direction to clinical social workers treating individuals who may have a history of intergenerational trauma.

Delta A
Delta A
August 29, 2021 12:21 pm

the reason why they were able to pick themselves up was because many had religious faith and also society

Good post, Cassie. And the above is correct. They also had no flippant distractions – 101 genders, white privilege, am I trans, queer, gay? – and so were 100% focused on survival.

Today’s pampered poppets panic when the internet goes down for an hour. I doubt that many have the fortitude to cope with anything more traumatic.

Arky
August 29, 2021 12:24 pm

You could use Yob cat for the stress release, then come here and actually talk with folks.

Crossie
Crossie
August 29, 2021 12:28 pm

Seeing how much worse the powers that be are behaving this year than last year we can only cring at what they will come up with for next year.

My prediction is that ScoMo will lose the election in a landslide. I don’t care what the poll say, the people who say they approve of his actions would never vote for him in a pink fit.

Labor government will do what they always do when in power, we will not only be deprived of freedom but our possessions as well. The treasury will be bare so they will take from those who still have something, retirees will be herded into assisted living while their assets seized and added to consolidated revenue to finance the welfare state.

JC
JC
August 29, 2021 12:29 pm

You’re basically that guy at the football who spends the entire game screaming at the umpire or ref.
I understand that some people do that as stress release, and that’s fine.
I just don’t want to sit next to them.
Why don’t you take this shit back to Yob Cat?

You’re basically the guy at the football who gets a life ban. How interesting of you Arky. From the guy who was 50% the cause of the old blog being shut down for a few days, he is now wearing a tux and issuing orders like a school marm.
Are you going to start abusing libertarians again?
I’ll try to agree with you next time as disagreeing seems to make you flip out.

Arky
August 29, 2021 12:32 pm

Are you going to start abusing libertarians again?

..
Why not?
Are you idiots immune or something?

srr
srr
August 29, 2021 12:33 pm

Wally Dalí says:
August 29, 2021 at 11:52 am
https://newcatallaxy.blog/2021/08/28/open-thread-weekend-28-aug-2021/comment-page-3/#comment-5975
Just off the phonecall from Legal Aid lawyer, re a charge of noncompliance with Mask Orders during air travel.
[…]
So, these two-the GP and the LA- are meant to be the peak of the enlightenment, educated by the longstanding intellectual rigours of University, and informed and honed by the experience of long Practice.
But they’re both like, totally, teenage girls when it comes to peer pressure.

I’ve found the same with professionals in both medicine & law.
Almost like Stepford wives, when they hear actual facts that blow the propaganda they’re trained to sell, they sort of blink it away, as if their processor stops computing until the ‘interference’ stops, and then they just carry on, selling the lies as if that’s what they exist to do.

JC
JC
August 29, 2021 12:34 pm

We’re immune to really stupid shit like the crap you’ve posted before. But go ahead, as I’m sure now you’ll delete any contrary views seeing you managed to score a gong. You’ll end up talking to yourself.

Cassie of Sydney
August 29, 2021 12:39 pm

“much higher rates of psychiatric disorders in the children, especially if the Holocaust survivor was the mother because mothers were the principal caregivers back then(and to a large extent still are).

Tell me about it. I had an on off ten year relationship with the son of a Holocaust survivor….he was obsessed with it and felt enormous guilt for being alive.

Boambee John
Boambee John
August 29, 2021 12:39 pm

Crossie

This devastation is first financial and then psychological. Where are all those grief counsellors that descend like a plague after a disaster? Here is suffering on a monumental scale and they are nowhere to be seen.

Social distancing themselves from difficult (politically) issues?

calli
calli
August 29, 2021 12:41 pm

JC, I’d be interested to see a post from you on the subject 2Dogs raised re the possibility of inflation (runaway or normal garden variety or both).

I have noted the huge increases in cost of various building materials. And then there’s fuel.

Boambee John
Boambee John
August 29, 2021 12:41 pm

On the same subject, cross posted from Dash Cat.

NSW Chief Psychiatrist Murray Wright said the ongoing lockdown, while necessary for public health reasons, was especially hard for adolescents who made up the bulk of self-harm and mental health problems in the 0-17 age group.”

The NSW Chief Psychiatrist needs to take the NSW CHO aside for a long, unfriendly, discussion of real harm being caused in the state.

JC
JC
August 29, 2021 12:43 pm

Calli

Sure. I’ll try to get out in the next few days.

cohenite
August 29, 2021 12:43 pm

The SARS-CoV-2 Delta variant is poised to acquire complete resistance to wild-type spike vaccines

I’m pro-vax and read these reports for a living but fmd the contrary information is constant.

calli
calli
August 29, 2021 12:44 pm

Cassie, PTSD is something I’ve heard mentioned in relation to elderly survivors, the chickens coming home to roost after many years of often successful, professional careers.

John H.
John H.
August 29, 2021 12:44 pm
calli
calli
August 29, 2021 12:45 pm

Lol. No pressure! 😀

No one’s going anywhere.

Zipster
August 29, 2021 12:45 pm

The point I’m making about the comparison with the death camps is that not all the kids were permanently traumatized as a result. They picked themselves up, dusted off and ran normal lives.

Our current crop of educators seem more interested in producing snowflakes, who are dependent on the state for safety.

Arky
August 29, 2021 12:45 pm

It should be noted there here are three types of libertarians:
1. The genuine libertarians: These just want to be free to attend their nude Any Rand / My Little Pony appreciation parties, insert speedballs up their backsides and complain about the price of tobacco. Good but weird.
2. Rat bag leftists of the type in the 60s who would bang on about free speech but only in order to pursue lawfare against the established conservative majority. Mostly harmless.
3. Globalist shitheads. These scum bags are making out great with the reset, renewables, selling everything to the CCP and looking down their noses at the old working classes sliding into hell. It’s everything they always wanted. Not harmless at all.

JC
JC
August 29, 2021 12:45 pm

Cassie

and felt enormous guilt for being alive.

I don’t understand how he arrived here. His parent survived the camps and had him as a child, so why then experience guilt for living? I don’t get it.

JC
JC
August 29, 2021 12:46 pm

It should be noted there here are three types of libertarians:

Name the top three economic books you read that made an impression on you in some way.

  1. Note that Turdbull has nothing to say about such minor things as industry, hospitals and wider infrastructure.

  2. Oh great, Albo has just promised $200 per year each from every man, woman and child in Australia for a…

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