Open Thread – Mon 20 Sept 2021


Music in the Tuileries, Édouard Manet, 1862

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P
P
September 20, 2021 12:00 pm
rosie
rosie
September 20, 2021 12:01 pm

Oh

Arky
September 20, 2021 12:04 pm

Hi Bruce, ta for looking at the post.
I’m putting my reply to you here too:
..
Bruce of Newcastlesays:
September 20, 2021 at 11:19 am

..
Ivermectin could be a poor example, I’ll concede that it’s also cultured.
But back in 2020, the didn’t know which drugs would be good candidates, all they knew was we no longer have a drug industry, but we can brew shit.
So the pathway of vaccine strategy was set then.
I don’t put any store in the anti- Trump role in it, because we saw with vaccines they are able to turn on a dime and take credit for Trump actions, or put blame on trump for their own actions.
No.
I still think it was a choice wayyyyyyyy back: drug treatments that have to come out of China and India, or vaccine strategy. That the course was set under Trump is meaningless: they played Trump all the time over everything.
If a big third wave does not eventuate in India, I’m calling it: it’s de-industrialisation that got us here.

Roger
Roger
September 20, 2021 12:06 pm

At 80% vaccinated Victorians will still have to wear masks indoors.

Oh…and the unvaccinated will not be able to attend worship services at indoor venues.

Over to you, bishops.

Arky
September 20, 2021 12:07 pm

Quote screw up. That’s me not Bruce.

calli
calli
September 20, 2021 12:18 pm

Oh. It’s 2021.

That year went quickly! 😛

Muddy
Muddy
September 20, 2021 12:21 pm

Muddy!
Or the concise version: !

Megan
Megan
September 20, 2021 12:23 pm

Bonjour, mes amis. Comment ça va?

Drax
Drax
September 20, 2021 12:25 pm

Thanks ‘P’.
They don’t make ’em like that any more.

P
P
September 20, 2021 12:29 pm

At 80% vaccinated Victorians will still have to wear masks indoors.
Oh…and the unvaccinated will not be able to attend worship services at indoor venues.
Over to you, bishops.

ACT priests argue Mass is ‘time-critical’
Published: 20 September 2021

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
September 20, 2021 12:35 pm

Top 10

Not Uh oh
Not Uh oh
September 20, 2021 12:35 pm

Had to smile at Rowan Dean’s comments yesterday. He reckons the French ambassador to Australia must think he’s the luckiest bloke in the world having been recalled from the ACT lockdowns to gay Paree. Its all about timing and I don’t think he’ll be in a hurry to come back.

calli
calli
September 20, 2021 12:36 pm

Nice counterpoint to the Uccello hunt, Dover. We’ve still got the forest with its deep shadows, but this one is bereft of mystery.

Those people are civilised! They know where they’re going and they know how to get there! Poised halfway in time between the revolution and the great war.

mem
mem
September 20, 2021 12:37 pm

This is a great story on many levels. No safety testing, full steam ahead despite problems being identified etc. https://wentworthreport.com/2021/09/18/socialist-airship-r-101-historys-deadliest-civilian-airship-accident-that-you-havent-heard-about/

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
September 20, 2021 12:41 pm

Hmm, no cops involved… That said the bruvvas aren’t happy at their leaders…

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
September 20, 2021 12:42 pm
Fat Tony
Fat Tony
September 20, 2021 12:46 pm

Dot serious question. So does that amendment to the act mean if requested the ADF could be called out for riot control?

I’d say it would be so Scummo could bring in UN Peace Keepers (CCP troops) when the “civil disobedience” gets too bad.

After all, he did say Australia will be a very different country by Christmas

Gab
Gab
September 20, 2021 12:46 pm

John Setka called Dan Andrews’ bitch by the bruvvers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_0Kwgk-JyA

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 20, 2021 12:50 pm

Rockdoctorsays:

September 20, 2021 at 12:42 pm

Ok no linky… Old fashioned way…

Well, well, well.
Not a copper to be seen when 100 kg construction blokes get in a punch on with the CFMEU executive.
Weak xunts.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 20, 2021 12:53 pm

Arky – Fauci and the Cathedral are on the side of the vaccines because the moolah is bottomless. It was Fauci who overcame the Dems’ TDS on Operation Warp Speed. Partly because the only alternative at the time was cheap HCQ and ivermectin, but also because the CDC, Fauci and Birx are an item and linked in with the companies producing this stuff. The medical industrial complex if you like. I’ve linked several times the political donation data for CDC denizens, which is 99.9% towards the Dems. So the vaccines, such as they are, were thence grafted into green-progressive holy doctrine despite Trump’s championing of them. And ivermectin and HCQ became the devil’s excrement.

I have to underline how easy ivermectin is to manufacture. Even if CSL didn’t, many of the local generic companies like Sigma could do it. I could do it without much capital. Maybe a hundred grand for equipment and supplies and I could produce kilos of it a month, so long as I could get the bacterium. CSL would almost certainly have the bacterial strain in cold storage.

Roger
Roger
September 20, 2021 12:54 pm

Not a copper to be seen when 100 kg construction blokes get in a punch on with the CFMEU executive.

She was out of picture fumbling with her can of pepper spray.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 20, 2021 12:57 pm

Gabsays:

September 20, 2021 at 12:46 pm

John Setka called Dan Andrews’ bitch by the bruvvers.

Bwah ha ha ha ha.
“Stop calling him my mate. He’s not my mate. I’ve never met him.”

Top Ender
Top Ender
September 20, 2021 1:04 pm

Two good submarine decisions but we need to acquire nuclears now

By Top Ender

The Australian federal government has made two good decisions on our submarine future. Continuing the ridiculous contract with the French for 12 diesel-electric boats would have been on parallel with our foolishness in not ordering Spitfires for our defence in 1940. The Morrison government followed their brave moment with deciding on nuclear submarines as an alternative – an excellent idea. But that won’t get us out of our present predicament. What we need is a submarine weapons system right now – and that’s possible.

We have had a flawed defence acquisition attitude for decades in this country. Government after government wants to build too many defence platforms here. We can do it, but only with minor weapons systems such as patrol boats. Inevitably major builds run late and over-budget. We also insist on fiddling with the design. This would be disastrous in the case of future nuclear submarines. We need to simply copy what is already in the water and successful.

But even though we seem to be finally manning up to the hard questions, building our own boats to appear in 10 years is not good enough. We are facing a period of heightened threats and we need weapons systems now, not then. Buying the Virginia-class off the USA straight away would be the best decision, but that might not be possible as the USN is acquiring all so far produced. Fortunately there is another solution. The United States Navy has a number of other nuclear attack boats in storage. We should lease or buy six now.

The Los Angeles nuclear fleet of the USN have been in service for many years, and several are laid up – in fact, some of the original ones are being scrapped. They use the preferred weapons systems of our Navy, the Tomahawk and Harpoon missiles, and Mark 48 torpedo. We’re probably going to build the more capable Virginia-class, their replacement. But the Los Angeles class are gradually being retired, and would provide both an excellent training platform for nuclear vessels, and more importantly, an immediate and effective deterrent to any would-be enemies.

One obstacle any nay-sayers would immediately bring up is the fact that the Los Angeles are bigger than our present Collins and need a larger crew: 129 compared to 58. That can be remedied by advertising – with the relevant country’s permission – for submariners from the UK and the USA. The service could be continuous to transition into the boats the RAN would eventually acquire from the build here. In fact the naval personnel transitioning from these overseas navies would be also excellent trainers for our own personnel who would need to be brought up to speed on how to operate a nuclear power plant.

We need nuclear submarines mainly for their range and endurance. In both these areas they are superior to diesel-electric boats. A nuclear can travel immense distances without surfacing, and once on station the submarine can stay there until its food runs out, again without surfacing. Diesel-electrics are driven to the surface regularly as their batteries become depleted, so they can run their diesel to recharge. This can be done by a snorkel, but anywhere near the surface makes the submarine more likely to be detected – and therefore attacked.

If we want to deter an aggressor nation over the next few years we need this ability – to stay on station indefinitely – straightaway, not in a decade, or even in five years, which might incidentally be possible. (The Royal Navy’s HMS Dreadnought was launched in 1960, five years after the US Navy’s first nuclear, USS Nautilus – in other words from concept to reality in half a decade.)

And putting such a formidable platform into the sea near any aggressor is a move designed to lessen war, not increase it. One of the best aspects of the submarine concept is that the enemy does not know where it is once it’s at sea – unless of course it’s detected – another reason why we should have the almost undetectable nuclears as opposed to frequently re-fuelling diesel-electrics.

We could, and should, have several nuclear boats operating out of Perth within a year, not 10. A vessel leaving port starts a huge circle of probability going the moment it submerges. If you have a concept of the boat’s underwater speed you can calculate the size of that circle – somewhere within it is the submarine. As the hours go by the circle gets bigger, and soon it impacts where your own vessels are, perhaps on their way to attack Australia. Thus the mere presence of a submarine forces you to convey your more vulnerable freighters, tankers, and troopships, slowing your assault down. A submarine can launch covert swimmers and lay mines against your harbours too, while submerged, and thus you have to guard against those possibilities as well. If you can’t take these measures properly then your whole invasion process grinds to a halt until you can. Thus a submarine off your coast is an extremely effective deterrence – even though it hasn’t fired a shot.

Deploying the Collins-boats to carry out effective deterrence operations off distant enemy coasts is hazardous and inefficient. Even though they are a good platform, and operated by extremely capable people, they must recharge their batteries near the surface. And once their diesel supply reaches the level where they only have enough to get home or to a tanker, then they must leave. It varies with the speeds used, but a diesel boat’s endurance is measured only in weeks. A nuclear boat’s is in years, and of course it has never surfaced in its entire patrol.

There is another decision the government can make straight away. The names of the Collins-class should be carried on into our future nuclear boats. They are all named after heroes of the Navy from World War II. The only sailor – rather than an officer – of the six, Teddy Sheean, has just been awarded the Navy’s only Victoria Cross. These names should live forever. That’s one easy decision to make. Slightly harder but just as logical would be to arm our Navy with the best weapons they can get, and do it now – acquire working nuclear submarines from the USA immediately.

-o-o-O-o-o-

Top Ender served as a naval intelligence officer in the RAN. He is a military historian whose latest work is Teddy Sheean VC.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 20, 2021 1:06 pm

When was the last a union went to war with its head honcho’s in public?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 20, 2021 1:13 pm

The thing which surprised me about AUKUS is that Biden has come to the party. I didn’t think the Dems would ever agree for Australia to purchase nuclear boats.

I suspect the likes of Milley is the explanation: higher echelons of brass are intimate with the builders, and when we came asking for nuke boats little dollar signs lit up in their eyes.

Which is fine by me, since at least the things will be built fairly quickly and will work. And if they give us an excuse to build a nuke industry of our own then even better.

Woolfe
Woolfe
September 20, 2021 1:14 pm

You have to register at Adams Mangy Cat.

Roger
Roger
September 20, 2021 1:16 pm

From the old OT:

The specially equipped police [Vicpol] have lightweight armour, helmets, riot shields and weapons including rapid-fire guns that shoot non-lethal pellets or capsicum rounds; stinger grenades rolled along the ground that explode, releasing nine rubber projectiles, waist-high to five metres; and flash-bang grenades. Up to 300 police have been trained to use the weapons.

Liberty Victoria has called this a proportionate response .

Their only concern is that such measures will become entrenched and be used against legitimate protestors in the future.

Actually I made that up. But it’s almost for word for word what they’ve been saying about Vikpol’s actions against citizens in their press releases thus far.

They’re quite happy for Andrews to set the police onto their political enemies. Makes you wonder what sort of “liberty” they espouse.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
September 20, 2021 1:17 pm

24. This Schedule inserts a new provision in the Act to give ADF members, other defence personnel and foreign armed forces immunity from civil and criminal suit in relation to actions done in good faith performance of their duties, where the duties are in relation to certain assistance provided in the context of a natural disaster or other emergency.

Without definition of “other emergency” it could be anything…

Garage nazis
Old ladies in the street.
Gingers.

MatrixTransform
September 20, 2021 1:18 pm

Andrews’ bitch by the bruvvers

well, well … the worm turns

Arky
September 20, 2021 1:20 pm

I have to underline how easy ivermectin is to manufacture. Even if CSL didn’t, many of the local generic companies like Sigma could do it. I could do it without much capital. Maybe a hundred grand for equipment and supplies and I could produce kilos of it a month, so long as I could get the bacterium. CSL would almost certainly have the bacterial strain in cold storage.

..
Again Bruce, I fully accept what you are saying about Ivermectin.
But the vaccine strategy goes back to the beginning of this pandemic.
They ha no way of knowing which drugs were going to help.
What’s your opinion on say, our current capacity to ramp up production of other anti- virals or antibiotics? That’s what I’m trying to get at.
What’s the relative capacity to produce vaccines that require brewing biological processes, versus large scale manufacture of drugs that often need petrochemical precursors and maybe controlled reactions at set temperatures, pressures etc?
This is the guts of my logic here. Which is:
1. The vaccine strategy was decided on early in 2020.
2. Pharma is made in India with Chinese chemicals.
3. We have offshored most of the industry (Both us and the Americans).
4. Brewing biological stuff is an easier process than large scale industrial chemistry.
Forget the Ivermectin for a minute and let me know if any of the above falls down.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 20, 2021 1:22 pm

To be fair I suspect the USN experience with Austal has helped also. Their littoral class vessels seem to be the more successful of the two programs, and Austal appears to be in good graces with the DoD despite being strine speaking furriners.

Roger
Roger
September 20, 2021 1:25 pm

Maybe a hundred grand for equipment and supplies and I could produce kilos of it a month, so long as I could get the bacterium.

Bruce is breaking bad!

🙂

Crossie
Crossie
September 20, 2021 1:31 pm

The World is currently watching Australia in puzzled amazement. A spot of the old state-on-citizen ultraviolence would be remarked in all the right places.

This is from the old open thread. We went from the best country in the world to below Russia and China in a matter of months due to our elites who will escape to the Cayman Islands or the Bahamas after they have completely destroyed the whole continent. The destruction will be complete long before the first submarine arrives and we will be ripe for China to March in. At that point they will find most of the population ready to fall in line having already been trained by the local tyrants.

shatterzzz
September 20, 2021 1:32 pm

Crowd building outside CMFEU HQ in Melbourne .. live feed .. michaelsmithnews.com

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 20, 2021 1:33 pm

What’s your opinion on say, our current capacity to ramp up production of other anti- virals or antibiotics?

Easy as pie Arky. If a superannuated organic chemist with no direct biochem experience thinks he can (and I do) then it could be done here easily. The generic guys aren’t slouches and with a shed in an industrial park somewhere could put a facility together pretty cheaply. CSL has all the kit and the expertise already but. I would be surprised if they couldn’t be making significant amounts of ivermectin within a month. I bloody well could if I had in my possession what they had. I could’ve done so with what we had in our labs here in Ncl, since we did a lot of bioleaching work, eg. with thiobacillus ferrooxidans and copper sulfide ores. The methods for maintaining a culture and extracting the products aren’t that dissimilar. One decent sized chromatography column containing silica would do most of your purification. Then hydrogenate the product and recrystallize the ivermectin.

I don’t know the production method for HCQ, but that is widely used as a generic antimalarial, so it is probably not too hard to make either.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 20, 2021 1:35 pm

There doesn’t appear to be any face masks or social distancing at the CFMEU protest.
Where are VicPol (clutching pearls) ?

Dot
Dot
September 20, 2021 1:36 pm

Let’s go bruvvas.

We’ll roll on with our heads held high.

Our conscience in the gutter, our future in the sky!

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
September 20, 2021 1:36 pm

@ Top Ender-

Great article.

The 688 Flight II and Flight III 688i boats the US Navy is steadily decommissioning as Virginias are built to replace them are, as you have pointed out, still excellent vessels for what they do. And a refit and refuel for at least 10-15 years’ service in the RAN would leave us with an excellent operational fleet and greatly experienced crew base.

The Collins 6 are good names, and you couldn’t possibly have a pioneering sub class without naming the leaders Stoker and Besant, after our first 2 Australian submarine captains (Particularly after what Henry Stoker and AE2 got up to in the Sea of Marmara).

Any idea which significant RAN characters you might name 4 more 688 boats after?

We might as well keep traditional capital names like HMAS Australia and so forth for the inevitable SSBN class (Hi UK! Yes, we would love you to build us a few of your new Dreadnoughts. And with Trident? Absolutely!) later on…

Old bloke
Old bloke
September 20, 2021 1:38 pm

feelthebern says:
September 20, 2021 at 1:06 pm

When was the last a union went to war with its head honcho’s in public?

If the unions aren’t looking after their members, stop paying union dues. Go and start a new union which represents the members.

Dot
Dot
September 20, 2021 1:38 pm

How much is a W-88?

Asking for my bald friend in Russell.

Roger
Roger
September 20, 2021 1:38 pm

There doesn’t appear to be any face masks or social distancing at the CFMEU protest.
Where are VicPol (clutching pearls) ?

Looking for little old ladies to taser?

And all that riot gear going to waste.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 20, 2021 1:38 pm

A few Vic plod are there.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
September 20, 2021 1:38 pm

@ Bruce-

Pretty sure that up until the start of this year, Pfizer had a pill plant here in Perth.

It was rationalised down and most of its work sent to Singapore instead. But I’m pretty sure it is still doing something here.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 20, 2021 1:42 pm

Pharma is made in India with Chinese chemicals.

Just on that one Arky, we’re talking about really simple stuff: what you feed bacteria. Food. I don’t know what the ivermectin bacteria like but it is a soil bacterium and so the feedstocks will be stuff like sugars and proteins and the sort of thing a self-respecting decomposing soil compost bug would like to eat. Some nitrogen, phosphorus and sulfur. All of these things are readily available here without recourse to China. Bunnings would have a lot of it in stock. But Chinese suppliers would probably be easier to buy from.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
September 20, 2021 1:42 pm

The specially equipped police [Vicpol] have lightweight armour, helmets, riot shields and weapons including rapid-fire guns that shoot non-lethal pellets or capsicum rounds; stinger grenades rolled along the ground that explode, releasing nine rubber projectiles, waist-high to five metres; and flash-bang grenades. Up to 300 police have been trained to use the weapons.

Vs

balloons full of poster paint.

You destroy thousands of dollars of equipment , ruin the pigs ability to keep their visors down, gas masks or goggles on (hello CS gas), riot shield block your vision and all the shiny black stuff gets discolored and wrecked.
And god only knows how their nice shiny guns will operate gummed up with sticky, fast drying paint.

And its nice colorful fun for those involved, and not at all violent.

Or so Ive heard.

Dot
Dot
September 20, 2021 1:42 pm

Is there still an Astra Zeneca thing in western Sydney?

Boambee John
Boambee John
September 20, 2021 1:44 pm

Dotsays:
September 20, 2021 at 1:38 pm
How much is a W-88?

Asking for my bald friend in Russell.

Getting nuclear powered submarines from or through the US is one thing, but persuading them to breach the NPT is a whole new order of diplomacy (though if we said we wanted to support our comrades of the Taliban, it might become possible).

shatterzzz
September 20, 2021 1:44 pm

There doesn’t appear to be any face masks or social distancing at the CFMEU protest.
Where are VicPol (clutching pearls) ?

HI-VIS demonstrations are, apparently, exempt from plod attention .. something to do with not being lotza little old ladies present ……..

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
September 20, 2021 1:48 pm

Heres another fun bit of legislation creeping through parliament.

National Emergency Declaration Act 2020

Longer declarations with a review allowed ONE YEAR after its been declared.

14A Review of national emergency declaration

The Senate Standing Committee on Legal and Constitutional Affairs, or such other committee constituted under a resolution of the Senate, must:

(a) begin a review of each national emergency declaration made under section 11 by the first anniversary of the day the declaration is made; and

(b) report the Committee’s findings to the Senate as soon as practicable after completing the review.

shatterzzz
September 20, 2021 1:49 pm

Unusual sight .. watching Seitka’s heavies trying to control the bruvvas especially when it’s obvious they all seem to know each other ……!

twostix
twostix
September 20, 2021 1:49 pm

John Setka called Dan Andrews’ bitch by the bruvvers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_0Kwgk-JyA

Go for it boys!

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
September 20, 2021 1:50 pm

ACT to reach 80 per cent single-dose, Pfizer opens for 12-15-year-olds
Chief Minister Andrew Barr said the territory would today hit an 80 per cent single-dose vaccination rate for Canberrans aged 12 and above, as appointments for Pfizer opened up to more 12-15-year-olds.

“On the vaccination front, from today, parents can book children aged 12 to 15 in for a Pfizer vaccine through ACT government clinics. This is an important step to vaccinate 20,000 Canberrans in this age cohort,” Mr Barr said.

Crossie
Crossie
September 20, 2021 1:50 pm

I just found out that Piers Morgan is coming to Australian Sky News. Did anyone know about this?

This is going to be very amusing and “must see” television.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 20, 2021 1:51 pm

Where are VicPol (clutching pearls) ?

Looking for 72 year old women to beat up on.

shatterzzz
September 20, 2021 1:52 pm

Just saw AVI in the thick of things at the CMFEU shindig so should be some live reporting shortly ..!

calli
calli
September 20, 2021 1:53 pm

Uh oh. Reports of injuries at the CFMEU shenanigans. 😀

srr
srr
September 20, 2021 1:53 pm

areff says:
September 20, 2021 at 11:32 am

Matthew Guy now on 3AW saying policing is a tough job (blah, blah, blah), don’t go to demonstrations (blah, blah, blah), protest at the ballot box (blah, blah, blah).

What a pathetic weasel.

Whatever hope there is for Victoria, it doesn’t have anything to do with the SFLs.

How do we protest Branch Stacking, ‘Lost’ & ‘Found’, Ballot Boxes, counting ‘errors’, outright cheating and visits from ‘the boys’ to ‘talk about’ how silly challenging results would be, at those Ballot Boxes that do just keep ‘getting lost’ & ‘found’?

Gee, it’s almost as if Guy is telling us that if we want our country back we have to fight for it as dirty as ‘his opposition’ do.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
September 20, 2021 1:54 pm

From old OT:

Hang on, this [jabbing] was done without their parent’s knowledge?

Everything old is new again.

In postwar Britain the previously compulsory smallpox vaccination for newborns had fallen away because the disease was no longer endemic and the side effects were nasty.

Imported clusters in the early 1960’s got the National Health engaged with the UN smallpox eradication program – and older, unvaccinated kids were summarily jabbed at school in a panic program.

I remember being lined up, having our arms inspected for the scar, and those of us unvaxxed being stabbed with a little fork. We were told that scab would form, which would be infectious and not to touch it, but to warn our parents that we’d been jabbed. No note; no permission.

(Naturally, once we were scabbed up, we went around picking at the scab and then touching the unscabbed, shouting ‘Urrgh,you’ve got the pox!’)

As I recall a couple of kids developed the brain-swelling vaccine side effect and were never quite the same.

Such was life.

Roger
Roger
September 20, 2021 1:56 pm

Whatever hope there is for Victoria, it doesn’t have anything to do with the SFLs.

I think you’ll find construction workers are now the state’s opposition.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 20, 2021 1:59 pm

This is going to be very amusing and “must see” television.

Count me out. I read the Express website each day, which often features Piers Morgan’s antics. He isn’t a conservative. ITV is leftier than the BBC and he’d been there for the last 6 years.

shatterzzz
September 20, 2021 2:13 pm

Maybe union fees are just pocket money given the CMFEU shop seems to do a roaring trade .. Hi-Vis, hoodies, sweatshirts & tees by the hundreds on display .. LOL!

Megan
Megan
September 20, 2021 2:15 pm

Maybe a hundred grand for equipment and supplies and I could produce kilos of it a month, so long as I could get the bacterium. CSL would almost certainly have the bacterial strain in cold storage.

Forget meth/crack labs. Let’s crowdfund Bruce’s Illicit Ivermectin lab!

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 20, 2021 2:15 pm

Are the CFMEU rank & file more outraged that they are being bullied to get vaccinated?
Or that they thought they would be exempt & that hasn’t happened?

Regardless, good on them.
They know the score too “how much were you paid?”.
No doubt there was a payment to some training & safety fund.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 20, 2021 2:18 pm

Who gave Gladys the bunch of flowers today at the morning press conference?
The smh has a photo of the flowers.

Goanna
Goanna
September 20, 2021 2:19 pm

John Setka put the question to the hostile assembled workers?

Do you want to close the whole construction industry down?

The answer was indubitably unanimous.
Loud and clear . Yes!

Barry
Barry
September 20, 2021 2:20 pm

Maybe the bruvvas were having a spot of something in their tea?

The Korova milkbar sold milk-plus, milk plus vellocet or synthemesc or drencrom, which is what we were drinking. This would sharpen you up and make you ready for a bit of the old ultraviolence.

calli
calli
September 20, 2021 2:21 pm

Let’s crowdfund Bruce’s Illicit Ivermectin lab!

Righteous!

Putting the “Christian” into Science.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 20, 2021 2:22 pm

Megan – Making illicit ivermectin would be a lock-up-throw-away-key offence. I’d rather not serve my remaining time on this planet in a cell in Supermax.

calli
calli
September 20, 2021 2:22 pm

Who gave Gladys the bunch of flowers today at the morning press conference?
The smh has a photo of the flowers.

White lillies?

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 20, 2021 2:23 pm

Righteous!

In a good way.
Not in the deep state Milley way.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 20, 2021 2:27 pm

White lillies?

Helicodiceros muscivorus would be more appropriate.

We had one in our garden once. It was fascinating and quite attractive, if you held your nose.

calli
calli
September 20, 2021 2:30 pm

Lol, Bruce. I was thinking of arums, but yours is much better.

duncanm
duncanm
September 20, 2021 2:31 pm

Bruce of Newcastlesays:
September 20, 2021 at 2:22 pm
Megan – Making illicit ivermectin would be a lock-up-throw-away-key offence

No officer, this is Kombucha

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 20, 2021 2:32 pm

Top Ender earlier.
Excellent piece on the subs.
Leasing the LA class with blended USN/RAN crews is a great idea as a stop-gap defence measure and a logical transition to the Virginia.
The point about not dicking around with the design is critical.
That is what has screwed countless Defence AII projects in the past.
Dutton needs to out-bureacrat the bureacrats. Make the approval process for variations so torturous (and career threatening) so as to render it unworkable.
Every variation with a schedule impact and costing more than tuppence h’penny needs ministerial approval.
Then leak the inevitable first few change proposals to the media:-
RAN Engineers Propose $4 Change to Virginia Class Door Handles.
Or
Dutton Scotches Wasteful $10m Virginia Operations Manual Re-Writes Proposal.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 20, 2021 2:33 pm

Who gave Gladys the bunch of flowers today at the morning press conference?
The smh has a photo of the flowers.

Arranged in a circle?
Or a cross?

Gab
Gab
September 20, 2021 2:34 pm

What a shame they didn’t give her Atropa belladonna.

Not Uh oh
Not Uh oh
September 20, 2021 2:34 pm

Just tuned in to ABC24 to catch up on the Melbourne goings on. Nada. Zip. Nil. Nothing. They did find two ladies in Melbourne who said they were glad that Porter is gone so I suppose that’s something.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
September 20, 2021 2:34 pm

Hey, I went to lunch, and presto, new Fred. I suppose Dover did warn us.

Anyone wanting more medical research information from me – the one-woman opposition it seems – on the serioulsy worrying nature of Sars-Cov 2 infection can peruse two links I have put up on the auld thread. Covid is NOT a ‘flu. It’ the old throwing out the baby with the bathwater issue. My faint hope is that Covid becomes endemic and rare, and finally wears itself out. We shall have to see.

Our tradies have nearly finished off our new rooms. We have left them alone to do their stuff.
Like many Sydney tradies, they have been fully engaged in private work throughout this current lockdown. Canny people are just departing their premises for a long lunch and leaving them to it.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 20, 2021 2:34 pm

That was meant to read “$4 million change to door handles.

Zatara
Zatara
September 20, 2021 2:36 pm

TE and Rex

If you want to go sub shopping just punch “Puget Sound Naval Shipyard” into google earth.
I counted 12 Los Angeles class boats in the reserve fleet there last time I looked.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
September 20, 2021 2:38 pm

The point about not dicking around with the design is critical.
That is what has screwed countless Defence AII projects in the past.
Dutton needs to out-bureacrat the bureacrats.

He needs to completely by-pass the bureaucrats. Lots of gardening leave.

calli
calli
September 20, 2021 2:39 pm

Speaking of tradies, my fully vaccinated son is off to have a Covid test. Crook as Rookwood.

Old bloke
Old bloke
September 20, 2021 2:40 pm

The point about not dicking around with the design is critical.
That is what has screwed countless Defence AII projects in the past.

“But Minister, we need the additional $2.75 Billion to convert them to left-hand drive”

calli
calli
September 20, 2021 2:40 pm

Gab, a nice posy of monkshood, foxgloves and a little yew for greenery.

So nice and feminine. 😀

Baba
Baba
September 20, 2021 2:41 pm

Setka’a CFMEU members just can’t get enough of him.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CUBp2miB5Zp/

Baba
Baba
September 20, 2021 2:41 pm

Where’s Gunner?

Dot
Dot
September 20, 2021 2:42 pm

If we must save face, get Israeli nukes then the NPT is irrelevant (?) and get the W-88s.

Old bloke
Old bloke
September 20, 2021 2:42 pm

shatterzzz says:
September 20, 2021 at 1:49 pm

Unusual sight .. watching Seitka’s heavies trying to control the bruvvas

How long till we see the riot police guarding the CFMEU office from the wukkas?

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
September 20, 2021 2:42 pm

Who gave Gladys the bunch of flowers today at the morning press conference?

I am guessing they are plastic – like Gladys they are never alive so they never really die. To a facsimile person facsimile flowers would be fragrant and fresh.

Real flowers will have blackened, wilted, and disintegrated in her hand.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
September 20, 2021 2:44 pm

That was meant to read “$4 million change to door handles.

lol. It worked pretty well as $4 too, Sancho. 🙂

When I was a person heavily involved in meetings, as once was my metier, I was always amazed at how much claimed expertise people had on the most trivial of things, arguing over them endlessly, to the detriment of assessing the detail re large scale projects from amongst the range of competing interests. The large-scale expensive projects got passed in five minutes; but a new sort of door handle, bring it on.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 20, 2021 2:45 pm

Gunner’s like Keanu Reeves in Speed.
Where’s Jack?
He’s on the bus.

Dot
Dot
September 20, 2021 2:45 pm

Flowers for Gladys?

Narcissus poeticus.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
September 20, 2021 2:47 pm

Speaking of tradies, my fully vaccinated son is off to have a Covid test. Crook as Rookwood.

I hope it’s just a man-flu, Calli.

Mostly, they’re just a bit of a cold. 🙂

Mark from Melbourne
Mark from Melbourne
September 20, 2021 2:50 pm

When I was a person heavily involved in meetings, as once was my metier, I was always amazed at how much claimed expertise people had on the most trivial of things, arguing over them endlessly, to the detriment of assessing the detail re large scale projects from amongst the range of competing interests. The large-scale expensive projects got passed in five minutes; but a new sort of door handle, bring it on.

Commonly known as Bike Shed Syndrome.

The Board of Directors will immediately approve the design of the new factory/facility because, frankly, they don’t have a clue. They will then spend some hours debating the size, location and colour of the bike shed, because at least they think they know something about that and it looks like they are being “part of the process”.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 20, 2021 2:50 pm

https://www.smh.com.au/

If it’s still there, it looks like nothing special.
Servo flowers.

Arky
September 20, 2021 2:52 pm

Bruce of Newcastlesays:
September 20, 2021 at 1:33 pm
What’s your opinion on say, our current capacity to ramp up production of other anti- virals or antibiotics?

..
Bruce, you didn’t read my comment properly.

duncanm
duncanm
September 20, 2021 2:52 pm

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Bearesays:
September 20, 2021 at 2:44 pm
..
When I was a person heavily involved in meetings, as once was my metier, I was always amazed at how much claimed expertise people had on the most trivial of things, arguing over them endlessly, to the detriment of assessing the detail re large scale projects from amongst the range of competing interests.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_triviality

aka. ‘Bike Shedding’

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
September 20, 2021 2:52 pm

Piers is a palm tree – sways with the breeze.

Top Ender
Top Ender
September 20, 2021 2:52 pm

The thing which surprised me about AUKUS is that Biden has come to the party. I didn’t think the Dems would ever agree for Australia to purchase nuclear boats.

I have a slightly different take, Bruce. Even the USA with its power and reach finds it difficult to exert influence everywhere all time. Having Oz push a fair bit of pressure in the Asian region helps.

At the end of the day the Dems like to be in charge just as much as the GOP.

Also raised above, re more Navy submarine names, there are plenty of heroes around who deserve prominence: Seaman Ron Taylor from HMAS Yarra’s final 1942 battle; Chief Rogers from HMAS Voyager’s 1964 disaster; Captain Harry Howden from HMAS Hobart’s exploits in WWII, for example.

duncanm
duncanm
September 20, 2021 2:53 pm

snap Mark.

Chris
Chris
September 20, 2021 2:54 pm

Great article TE.

Megan
Megan
September 20, 2021 2:55 pm

Don’t want Supermax or even FeebleMax for you, Bruce. File my suggestion away under Best Forgotten in the filing cabinet. Or post it off into the forgettery.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
September 20, 2021 2:56 pm

snap Mark.

NADT?

areff
areff
September 20, 2021 2:59 pm

The point about not dicking around with the design is critical.

They won’t be able resist, no materiel acquisition bureaucracy ever can.

Witness the design history of the F-111

srr
srr
September 20, 2021 3:01 pm

Rockdoctorsays:
September 20, 2021 at 12:42 pm

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10007743/Covid-19-Australia-Melbourne-construction-workers-protest-mandatory-jabs.html

I see some very smiley faces there.

I see this as, The Second Act of ‘Setka’s Teddy Bear’s Picnic’ –
‘Gee, sorry Dan, mate, but you saw the members, I can’t back you anymore.’

Hopefully the Third Act isn’t where he does a double double cross and has his members dragging us all into jab centres.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
September 20, 2021 3:02 pm

Speaking of startling-looking flowers, a year ago friends arrived at our place for a lunch bearing a plastic tub with a bulb in it, labelled Hipperastrum. No gardener I, it was placed on the terrace in a corner where some rain fell and although gracefully received was promptly forgotten, only to turn up with four magnificent and huge red blooms, almost obscene they were in their sensual yearnings, for it had within a few weeks raised a two foot stalk on which to mount their flambuoyance. And then it died away, as all things must, and was left by me to come to dust in the same corner of the terrace, while greater works ensued with many tradies doing their thing. I moved the object with the dead bulb onto another table in the sun and rain and left it for Hairy to remove when he was ready.

And now! Tah da!! a sudden spurt of stalk which you could actually see grow by the hour, and we have again the most amazing four flower heads that would make a lady’s hat. And they have grown a baby. A smaller one is emerging from the bulb. The gift that keeps on giving, I texted my friend, sending her the photo.

A vegetation form of guinea pigs perhaps. So hardy. They do their own thing and only increase.

calli
calli
September 20, 2021 3:03 pm

Lol. Watching that CFMEU footage…the bullhorn didn’t stand a chance!

Diogenes
Diogenes
September 20, 2021 3:03 pm

Also raised above, re more Navy submarine names,

We are talking about the SFLs , so they will be indigenous names

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
September 20, 2021 3:03 pm

Commonly known as Bike Shed Syndrome.

An Iron Law.

JC
JC
September 20, 2021 3:07 pm

I’m beginning to think that it’s hard to believe Woodward about anythingin his “books” as he’s a bullshit artist of the first order. Although I despise Milley for being a douchebag, it’s hard- very hard- to accept Woodward’s claims about saying he’d warn China if the US was going to attack.

Here’s why. This part about Pelosi is true.
Pelosi was going around making up bullshit that she was frightened Trump would authorize a surprise nuclear attack on China. This is far more damaging and dangerous than Woodward’s claims about Milley. This c.. was going around Washington suggesting that Trump was going to attack China. The miracle is that China’s spies didn’t catch this because it could have turned really ugly. That stupid fucking bitch is not just a danger to the US, she’s a danger to the world.

Boambee John
Boambee John
September 20, 2021 3:10 pm

Dotsays:
September 20, 2021 at 2:42 pm
If we must save face, get Israeli nukes then the NPT is irrelevant (?) and get the W-88s.

The NPT would still apply to your W-88s.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 20, 2021 3:11 pm

There is only going to be one truthful account of the Trump administration.
When Kellyanne Conway releases hers.
Even Bannon has shown he’s full of shit re-writing history to position him as a saint.

Fair Shake
Fair Shake
September 20, 2021 3:11 pm

But Minister you would have to agree they are outstanding bike sheds.

srr
srr
September 20, 2021 3:12 pm

shatterzzzsays:
September 20, 2021 at 1:32 pm
Crowd building outside CMFEU HQ in Melbourne .. live feed .. michaelsmithnews.com

Yet another case of “no internet” only for Smith’s site.

Seems a pattern of getting cover stories & ducks in a row before letting social media of public uprisings, out to the rest of the public.

miltonf
miltonf
September 20, 2021 3:18 pm

Pelosi is mafia filth of the highest order. It also say a lot about San Francisco that they keep voting for the evil old carcass.

Cassie of Sydney
September 20, 2021 3:18 pm

There is an opposition leader in Victoria but his name isn’t Matthew Guy…it’s David Limbrick. From The Australianafternoon…

“Victorian liberal democrat David Limbrick attended the protest, and was filmed by an attendee saying it was “good to see opposition”.

“The government’s road map isn’t a road map to freedom, it is a road map to a segregated society and medical apartheid,” Mr Limbrick said.

“Lots of people are going to lose their jobs. They are going to be separated from society,” he said.

“We are seeing one of the biggest shifts in social, political and economic terms that we have ever seen. People who choose not to get a particular medical procedure of their own free will are going to be separated from society. We can’t allow this to happen.”

I’m proud to be a member of the Liberal Democrats.

miltonf
miltonf
September 20, 2021 3:19 pm

Piers is a palm tree – sways with the breeze.

An overpaid, over rated legacy media cockhead.

Miss Anthropist
Miss Anthropist
September 20, 2021 3:20 pm

As one bought up in the AngloSaxon tradition of women and children first i am holding off until over 99% of the population are vaccinated.
It’s not heroics. I just would like my people to know I am doing the right thing.

Arky
September 20, 2021 3:21 pm

I’m just gonna have to take Bruce’s word for it.
I don’t have enough understanding of how antivirals are made to dispute it.
Which leaves me absolutely even more buggered as to why we aren’t pursuing treatments as well as vaccines.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 20, 2021 3:23 pm

Mark and Duncan.
Bike-shedding is an apt term.
I have heard it called “household budget mentality”.
Anything within the $ range of th er average household can be assessed for value. Put up something in the tens of millions or billions and that sense of scale is lost.
Of course, focus on bikesheds also defers the need to make the really big decisions.

Arky
September 20, 2021 3:24 pm

“Victorian liberal democrat David Limbrick attended the protest

..
I’m prepared to forgive libertarians a lot of unicorn shagging and globalist felching in return for them showing up like this. Two thumbs up, Limbick.
Ewwwww. Not up there.

Rorschach
Rorschach
September 20, 2021 3:24 pm

I suspect the likes of Milley is the explanation: higher echelons of brass are intimate with the builders, and when we came asking for nuke boats little dollar signs lit up in their eyes.

Indeed… I wonder if this was started under Trump though. A deal like this would take more than a month or two of back-channel, and then formal negotiations…

srr
srr
September 20, 2021 3:25 pm

Unions rallying against medical tyranny in Melbourne

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omyT908PrP0

Sep 20, 2021
Avi Yemini

miltonf
miltonf
September 20, 2021 3:26 pm

Good to hear Limbrick was there on Saturday. I am ashamed I wasn’t but not even sure how I could have got into the CBD.

I’m coming very close to joining the UAP but Palmer’s actions during the Abbott era are holding me back especially since he reminds us about them on the UAP website. It’s almost like a contradiction- ‘I saved the RET’ but ‘I’m for freedom of association’. Would be much more comfortable if it was Kelly without Palmer. They’re cutting through though.

Ellen of Tasmania
Ellen of Tasmania
September 20, 2021 3:30 pm

“Project Veritas will be launching a series of videos exposing government health agencies and pharmaceutical companies — showing what they really think about the COVID vaccine.

We’ll start Monday, with a federal whistleblower who shot hidden camera footage — and it gets more damming with each successive release.”

https://www.projectveritas.com/news/urgent-request-from-project-veritas-shocking-covid-vaccine-series-launch/

JC
JC
September 20, 2021 3:31 pm

miltonf says:
September 20, 2021 at 3:18 pm

Pelosi is mafia filth of the highest order. It also say a lot about San Francisco that they keep voting for the evil old carcass.

The evil piece of shit could have caused a nuke exchange between China and the US because the old c… suffers terrible TDS.

miltonf
miltonf
September 20, 2021 3:32 pm

Anyway, whoever can defeat the unipardy and their attacks of liberty and enterprise will get my support. As for Guy, it’s just what i would have expected from him.

mem
mem
September 20, 2021 3:32 pm

Still nothing on the CFMEU uprisings on the ABC news website. It’s on overseas news and news.com. Perhaps ABC guys were having cake and coffee whilst waiting for Dan to sign off on their script.

johanna
johanna
September 20, 2021 3:32 pm

calli says:
September 20, 2021 at 12:44 pm

Because the vaccines have been loaded up with the live virus to the absolute maximum level and those vaccinated shed the virus.

If that’s the case, then I should have had the thing. The Beloved was vaccinated in May, second shot in August. If he’s shedding live virus, that is. Being the most infectious virus evah!

Maybe I have natural immunity!

Quite possibly, calli.

I don’t get colds, have never had a flu shot and have never caught anything worse than needing a day or two in bed. Coronaviruses are wasting their time with me.

One of the most unscientific aspects of this whole exercise is the obliteration of the individual. We are all just numbers and percentages, broken down by age and sex and location. The pseudoscience of ‘epidemiology’ treats human beings as inputs to models.

Just before COVID madness completely took over, my local Grab ‘n’ Go clinic phoned me to ask if I wanted to book in for a flu vax shot. I said no, I don’t get the flu, I know some people do but not me. The receptionist broke protocol by admitting that this was indeed the case. Some people seem to catch everything that is going around, others don’t. There is a lot of individual variation at work there.

On one hand, we get lots of hype about how individualy tailored medicine is the thing of the future, and then we get this mass produced experimental jungle juice not only held out as our saviour, but mandated for the Greater Good.

Crude is being polite. It has all the trappings of socialism – the exemptions for the nomenklatura, the exhortations to the masses, the penalties for non-compliance and discussing alternatives, the assumption that freedom is the property of the State, to be doled out sparingly to the deserving, etc etc.

So calli, quite likely you are like me and your immune system bats off corona viruses like blowflies meet tail on a horse’s arse.

Armadillo
Armadillo
September 20, 2021 3:34 pm

Megan – Making illicit ivermectin would be a lock-up-throw-away-key offence. I’d rather not serve my remaining time on this planet in a cell in Supermax.

Pussy.

srr
srr
September 20, 2021 3:34 pm

You know that thing where you try not to smile … watch, see, listen, consider, what’s really going on here –

John Setka called Daniel Andrew’s Bitch by CFMEU Union Members

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_0Kwgk-JyA
Sep 20, 2021
Socialist Republic of Victoria

John Setka called Daniel Andrew’s Bitch by CFMEU Union Members for supporting mandatory vaccination of construction workers.

JC
JC
September 20, 2021 3:34 pm

According to the podcast I heard, Milley was on the phone to his Chinese counterpart because there was chatter coming out of Washington that Trump was planning a surprise attack. This rumor was started by Pelosi. Think about that. The moron, with her loose tongue and TDS, could have started a nuclear war.

miltonf
miltonf
September 20, 2021 3:35 pm

The evil piece of shit could have caused a nuke exchange between China and the US because the old c… suffers terrible TDS.

Yes how dare Americans elect a non media non establishment approved president.

Ellen of Tasmania
Ellen of Tasmania
September 20, 2021 3:36 pm

It’s not just Christians who are opposed to the use of fetal cell use, and I suspect the Conway Regional Health System may have let the cat out of the bag with this. I wonder if big pharma will thank them?

“In order to obtain a religious exemption from the Covid-19 vaccine at a hospital system in Arkansas, staff are also required to “swear off” common medicines like Tylenol, Tums and Preparation H.

Conway Regional Health System said it noticed an uptick in vaccine exemption requests that “cited the use of fetal cell lines in the development and testing of the vaccines,” according to ARS Technica. …

Troup said that the hospital wants to make sure that staff are “sincere” in their beliefs and that the hospital wants to “educate staff who might have requested an exemption without understanding the full scope of how fetal cells are used in testing and development in common medicines.””

https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/hospital-staff-declines-covid-vaccine-religious-reasons-must-attest-also-swearing-tylenol

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
September 20, 2021 3:37 pm

I woke up this morning around 1:30, stirred by the smell of smoke and immediately identified it as the smoke of bushfires or hazard reductions – I did notice that there seemed some hazard burning about 10 km or so to the north yesterday.

I got up to close the windows I keep ever so slightly ajar because the produce that undulating whining sound as the wind blows past and, looking out the window, saw in the blurring of neighbourhood lights that the area around my home was fair blanketed with smoke. And still. Absolutely still.

Went back to bed vaguely thinking that I would be trapped inside with all the windows shut today. Instead I woke up this morning and it was all gone. Completely. Not the faintest whiff.

I am not sure how, but I am sure that Covid was involved. And I am pretty certain it was the fault of unvaxxed people.

I swore to myself that if I saw anyone today without a mask I would lay into them without mercy.

And I would get away with it too, because they would be counted as a Covid death and the crowbar sticking out of their head a mere co-morbidity to be glossed over.

Dot
Dot
September 20, 2021 3:37 pm

Leftists are trying to say getting nuclear powered subs at all breaches the NPT (see The Economist).

Just ignore it. Get them from India, assert our rights per Maralinga and buy them off America (eventually).

miltonf
miltonf
September 20, 2021 3:38 pm

You look at the DC establishment and you see worthless trash. Deep down they must know it too seeing how much they hate someone with real accomplishments. Same when I look at the Windsors now.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 20, 2021 3:39 pm

Based on what Sam Maiden is reporting regarding the bird who made the allegations against Porter, he was a retard for settling the defamation case.
It’s up on the news.com.au website in the last 30 mins.

Chris
Chris
September 20, 2021 3:40 pm

What an awesome weekend. State muzzleloading championships! A little deck of silver medals to show for it, a lightly bruised shoulder, and the smell of gunsmoke wafting away on today’s freezing easterly.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 20, 2021 3:41 pm

Contained in a previously unpublished, signed account prepared by his accuser, it outlines for the first time her belief that she experienced traumatic stigmata — bruises and bleeding that were symbolic signs of the alleged rape that appeared decades after the event on her body.

Why didn’t Porter want this gone over again & again with Milligan in the box?
Porter is a retard.

rosie
rosie
September 20, 2021 3:43 pm

Dot you mentioned astrazeneca.
CSL were manufacturing a million doses a week at their Broadmeadows Melbourne plant.
Iirc they had a contract for 50? million doses back in March.

miltonf
miltonf
September 20, 2021 3:43 pm

Porter is just another uniparty empty suit like Angus Taylor.

Chris
Chris
September 20, 2021 3:44 pm

Leftists are trying to say getting nuclear powered subs at all breaches the NPT (see The Economist).

Just ignore it.

No, no. Find some way of jailing the f*cks for attempting to sabotage critical defense action. For heavens sake, they could do just for waiting for a bus near the fence of Campbell Barracks (loitering with intent to sketch a Commonwealth Defense facility), if they wanted.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
September 20, 2021 3:46 pm

Three tradie guys are just finishing off now, doing bits and pieces while clearing up after themselves.

We’ve given them money for a good slab of beer as a thank you, which they were pleased with.
Hope they weren’t non-drinking Muslims, but I guess they could buy lemonade. 🙂

Gab
Gab
September 20, 2021 3:46 pm

Mother Lode that was excellent!

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 20, 2021 3:48 pm

Porters SC : Milligan, do you usually believe people when they say they’ve experience stigmata?
Milligan : ……

Think about that pestering Milligan for hours non-stop.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
September 20, 2021 3:50 pm

A deal like this would take more than a month

On the wireless they were saying it had been getting negotiated for 18 months.
i think that was the frog ambassador so a pinch of salt for the claim.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
September 20, 2021 3:51 pm

Mate does some design work for defence. Job he had could have cost $X+25% to do it his way. No we want it our way, baring in mind the result is the same. OK $4X. Same thing from another bloke, goes to meetings, he’s the only one who actually knows, others want to be important one wants bells the other whistles the contractor says anything you want.

Cassie of Sydney
September 20, 2021 3:52 pm

“feelthebernsays:
September 20, 2021 at 3:39 pm
Based on what Sam Maiden is reporting regarding the bird who made the allegations against Porter, he was a retard for settling the defamation case.
It’s up on the news.com.au website in the last 30 mins.”

Yep, I’ve just read the piece…..the woman was unhinged.

TailgunneR
TailgunneR
September 20, 2021 3:53 pm

Great to see the Bois up& about today outside CFMEU HQ. Absolutely based.
Saturday was very interesting, I wasn’t present when all the craziness went down, me&my gal got caught behind the Jack lines not long after we escaped the Burnley St kettle.
Was having a chat with Avi while we were penned in. Got some footage, but nothing really good.
The commentary here was fantastic from those who showed up so I really had nothing to add.
It was completely peaceful, just a couple thousand people marching, singing, slogan shouting. Would have stayed that way if the jacks had just done traffic control and let us March around for a couple of hours.
But we all knew that was never going to happen.
This is escalating. Anyone who didn’t attend really needs to step up next time.
The revolution is here. Join us!

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
September 20, 2021 3:54 pm

@ Diogenes-

Plenty of FFGs and Corvettes and Offshore Patrol Vessels coming to soak up indig names in perpetuity.

I’m quite inclined to go for:

SSN-79 Stoker

SSN-80 Besant

SSN-81 Collins (II)

SSN-82 Farncomb (II)

SSN-83 Waller (II)

SSN-84 Dechaineaux (II)

SSN-85 Rankin (II)

SSN-86 Sheean (II)

SSN-87 Taylor

SSN-88 Rogers

SSN-89 Glossop (Captain of Sydney (I) in 1914, sank SMS Emden and commanded the capture of Rabaul)

SSN-90 Patey (First Officer Commanding, Royal Australian Navy)

Alternatives?

GoTiges
GoTiges
September 20, 2021 3:54 pm

Witness the design history of the F-111

A more recent example is the upside down lawnmowers for the Navy (super seasprite). The project ran for 14 years and cost $1.4b (in 2006 dollars) before they finally gave up on it.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 20, 2021 3:57 pm

The people I know at the ABC were shocked when Porter agreed to settle the case.
When you read stuff like this, you can understand why they were shocked.
What other batshit crazy stuff would have been tested in court?
How would Milligan handled being put under the blowtorch?
Even the biggest Milligan supporters would have been going WTF?

Slim Cognito
Slim Cognito
September 20, 2021 3:58 pm

CFMEU offices currently getting pelted with bottles. Wonderful to see.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 20, 2021 3:59 pm

Why didn’t Porter want this gone over again & again with Milligan in the box?
Porter is a retard.

Election is in 6 months.
Someone had a word in his shell-like.

JC
JC
September 20, 2021 3:59 pm

Why did he give in then, Bern?

miltonf
miltonf
September 20, 2021 3:59 pm

Jeez the murdock rags are full of lies and shit.

Armadillo
Armadillo
September 20, 2021 3:59 pm

Lol. The only person arrested at the J6 rally was an undercover FBI agent.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXs6QPDxX4M

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
September 20, 2021 4:00 pm

“Based on what Sam Maiden is reporting……..”
I’d beware of anything the lardy lush says – she’s promoting her book, that’s all.

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
September 20, 2021 4:00 pm

I just found out that Piers Morgan is coming to Australian Sky News. Did anyone know about this?

Yep. (Polishes nails on chest)
I posted that information here a few days ago.
Unless it’s my dementia playing up.

shatterzzz
September 20, 2021 4:00 pm

Seitka’s bodyguards have fled inside the mob is pelting the door, bottles cans, whatever …
fights starting … plod conspicuous by their absence ………. the wukkas ain’t ‘appy .. LOL!

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
September 20, 2021 4:01 pm

For heavens sake, they could do just for waiting for a bus near the fence of Campbell Barracks (loitering with intent to sketch a Commonwealth Defense facility), if they wanted.

A year or three back, some ‘protestors’ had a very long and piteous cry[wank] to the ABC because they breached Swan Island in Melbourne, and got roughed up by [they presumed] SAS troopers before being handed back to Vikpol.

It happens.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 20, 2021 4:01 pm

I’d beware of anything the lardy lush says

She’s got her fat mitts on one of the court docs that is damning of Porter’s accuser.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 20, 2021 4:02 pm

JC, who knows.
Maybe he thought it would all go away.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 20, 2021 4:03 pm

The CFMEU are doing more damage to the building than what happened on Jan 6th in DC.

JC
JC
September 20, 2021 4:03 pm

May be the pressure at home was too great and he wanted it to end asap.

TailgunneR
TailgunneR
September 20, 2021 4:05 pm
Slim Cognito
Slim Cognito
September 20, 2021 4:06 pm

Rumour that the riot squad are on the way to CFMEU offices. Place is smashed in.

calli
calli
September 20, 2021 4:06 pm

Ellen’s link – Looking at the list of products which used foetal cell lines in testing:

ARS Technica reported that some of the common medicines on the list include Tylenol, Pepto Bismol, aspirin, Tums, Lipitor, Senokot, Motrin, ibuprofen, Maalox, Ex-Lax, Benadryl, Sudafed, albuterol, Preparation H, MMR vaccine, Claritin, Zoloft, Prilosec OTC, and azithromycin.

This is what I was talking about last night, and how Christians and indeed any other objectors to the AZ and J&J specifically, can be wedged by drips trying on a Gotcha!.

Armadillo
Armadillo
September 20, 2021 4:07 pm

CFMEU offices currently getting pelted with bottles. Wonderful to see.

Anyone got a live stream link? I can see the MS News one, but no sound.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 20, 2021 4:08 pm

May be the pressure at home was too great

He was already separated.

Slim Cognito
Slim Cognito
September 20, 2021 4:08 pm

cops have arrived now. This could get interesting.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 20, 2021 4:08 pm

Riot squad on site at the CFMEU.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
September 20, 2021 4:09 pm

TailgunneR

You still a lad of leisure or back being a tax slave like everyone else??

calli
calli
September 20, 2021 4:09 pm

Rumour that the riot squad are on the way to CFMEU offices. Place is smashed in.

The Battle of Little Bull Horn!

Or is that Bull Horn Run?

Slim Cognito
Slim Cognito
September 20, 2021 4:10 pm

Rubber bullets in use now

JC
JC
September 20, 2021 4:10 pm

Interesting.

I am a liberal, White, upper-middle-class parent, and we live in a mixed-income, racially integrated urban neighborhood. When it came time to enroll our daughter in high school, we selected a school that was majority Black because it was close by, and we rejected the notion of getting caught up in which magnet school was most prestigious. Our daughter had a horrible time there—she was harassed so much that we had to pull her out, and other non-Black students there were victimized because of their race. I am struggling to make sense of the experience. I think she’s managed it well and hasn’t let it affect her general views on race, and I believe I’m doing the same, but mostly I am just so angry that our daughter had to endure this, and I feel guilty that I put her in this position. I also feel caught between friends who seem to want to say, “I told you so,” and those who seem to think that saying that she was the victim of racial harassment somehow makes me seem racist since it was at the hands of Black students. Maybe I should just chalk it up to bad luck, but how can I let go of the guilt and anger and all the other awful reactions I’m having to this?

—Hoping I’m Not a Karen [Slate]

More here:

TailgunneR
TailgunneR
September 20, 2021 4:10 pm

Try realrukshan for a livefeed of the CFMEU action currently in progress

Zatara
Zatara
September 20, 2021 4:12 pm

I have a slightly different take, Bruce. Even the USA with its power and reach finds it difficult to exert influence everywhere all time. Having Oz push a fair bit of pressure in the Asian region helps.

Bingo I think TE. Helping allies share the load for mutual security is in everyone’s best interest.

Additionally, moving some boats out of their reserve fleet gives the USN an easier task selling their Congress on funding new boat construction, thus maintaining the actual capability to do so as it’s not exactly a cottage industry that can be reconstituted overnight. That of course also makes the boat builders happy and keeps people (read voters) employed.

Commonality of vessels also enables better inter-operability, parts, weapons, maintenance, and training support as well as enabling mutual research and development of improved systems for the class.

Assistance from the US in manning the boats is going to be a bit complicated though. There are a number of issues involved but probably nothing that couldn’t be sorted with enough desire to do so. Among other things it may actually require their Congress pass a law specifically allowing it. But there is historical precedent, at least in wartime, for them allowing their citizens to volunteer for service in allied militaries – Lafayette Escadrille of WWI, Abraham Lincoln Brigade of the Spanish Civil War, Flying Tigers and Eagle Squadrons of WWII.

Top Ender
Top Ender
September 20, 2021 4:12 pm

Chris says: What an awesome weekend. State muzzleloading championships!

Lucky bugger – colour me jealous!

shatterzzz
September 20, 2021 4:13 pm

Unbelievable! .. there’s a full scale riot in progress and not a plod in sight .. using water hoses from inside CMFEU HQ to keep the mob at bay with a coupla brave souls trying to keep them back … Woops! ..plod approaching after Seitka calls for help .. reporter sez they are firing rubber bullets … plod needs to back off this mob isn’t their usual old folk …… the wukkas are breaking up to shouts of .. Back tomorrow .. !

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
September 20, 2021 4:13 pm

“The Battle of Little Bull Horn!”
Hahaha

132andBush
132andBush
September 20, 2021 4:14 pm

Real flowers will have blackened, wilted, and disintegrated in her hand.

Real flowers are also a sign of reproduction.

Not appropriate for “our” premier.

(A bit harsh you say?
Fuck off.)

TailgunneR
TailgunneR
September 20, 2021 4:15 pm

Lol, fights have broken out between the CFMEU crew.
Probably Croats v Serbs or something.
Riot squad is on scene but not moving in yet.
This could be about to get very spicy!

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 20, 2021 4:15 pm

Contained in a previously unpublished, signed account prepared by his accuser, it outlines for the first time her belief that she experienced traumatic stigmata — bruises and bleeding that were symbolic signs of the alleged rape that appeared decades after the event on her body.

WTF?
Stigmata?
Decades later?
FMD, I’d be champing at the bit to grill Seven-Nilligan about her belief (or otherwise) in that very miraculous and very Catholic phenomenon.

Bear Necessities
Bear Necessities
September 20, 2021 4:15 pm

Interesting. According to the Herald Sun, the CFMEU are labelling the rioters as ‘Extremists’. And I thought the CFMEU were pretty extreme!

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 20, 2021 4:17 pm

The CFMEU chaps really like the C-word.

Rabz
September 20, 2021 4:17 pm

WTF has happened to the stock market? My shares have plummeted. Good thing about $1,200 in dividends are coming in this week.

shatterzzz
September 20, 2021 4:17 pm

Who’d a thunk it ……. plod protecting a union HQ from the wukkas … LOL!

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 20, 2021 4:19 pm

Gunner, can you please show up tomorrow & blast this out at the CFMEU office?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kl4wkIPiTcY

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
September 20, 2021 4:19 pm

Thanks duncanm.
I was sitting here scratching my head for something – anything – which gave me more info about trivial decisions taking more time than important ones.
Your link to Parkinson unleashed a tsunami of memories.
On ya.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 20, 2021 4:19 pm

At about 2.45pm, protesters began screaming “jump” to union officials who appeared at a balcony on the building. It is unclear if Mr Setka was among them.

Bwah ha ha ha.
Andrews gave the CFMEU a free kick.
Which the members are now using to kick Setka and Andrews in the nuts.

TailgunneR
TailgunneR
September 20, 2021 4:20 pm

“Look at youse, weak xunts! Hiding behind the jacks!!”
This is absolutely EPIC

srr
srr
September 20, 2021 4:22 pm

Union Members Protest CFMEU Union Boss Decision to Support Mandatory Vaccinations

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AV_5Fx-iw8o

Sep 20, 2021
Socialist Republic of Victoria

Union Members Protest CFMEU Union Boss, John Setka’s Decision to Support Mandatory Vaccinations

TailgunneR
TailgunneR
September 20, 2021 4:23 pm

Oh, I’ll be down there tomorrow, don’t worry about that!
I don’t think this will stop now.
Constant protests,destruction& mayhem on the streets of Yarragrad.
Constant shutdowns of major roads and the CBD.
The line has been well and truly crossed!

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
September 20, 2021 4:23 pm

Here you go Gunner, fresh from the memefields..

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miltonf
miltonf
September 20, 2021 4:24 pm

Who’d a thunk it ……. plod protecting a union HQ from the wukkas … LOL!

Pretty much symbolizes the disconnect between the establishment and real workers.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 20, 2021 4:25 pm

Some of these union chaps are quite witty.

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  1. Headline of the day: The Matildas and Arsenal weapon tasked with filling Kerr-sized hole Fnarrr.

  2. And puts lie to the media’s claim that he held a firearms licence “for recreational purposes”.

  3. The word doing the rounds (as yet unsubstantiated) is a total ban on “recreational” firearm use. Can see a lot…

  4. Outstanding. Just outstanding commentary on the current semitic sentiment in this country. The back end of a Gray Connolly piece…

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