Open Thread- Monday 27 Sept 2021


Forest Sunrise, Albert Bierstadt, late 19th Century

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rosie
rosie
October 1, 2021 2:32 pm

Right now in country Victoria are there vaccine passports?

twostix
twostix
October 1, 2021 2:32 pm

There is another issue with vaccine passports

Hairdressers and many similar small businesses have been deprived of the right to earn a living for months, and have been forced to get vaccinated if they want to work on the 11 October but don’t give them a thought.

The queen of dreadful takes outdoes herself again.

The unconventional conservatism of Chinese vaccine passport systems.

“Get your vaccine passport or the hairdresser that I helped put out of business with my support for all this shit last year gets it! Think about it.”
– known covid karen extremist notafan

Arky
October 1, 2021 2:33 pm

ow I have my two sisters turning on me and if what they say is true it’s unlikely that I’ll be able to see mum if she ends up in a hospital or hospice etc.

..
My mother has been in strife since the start of this.
She’s in NZ, so I haven’t been able to go see her.
Stroke earlier this year and last week a fall resulting in a broken hip. Just out of surgery yesterday, refusing to eat or co-operate.
I’m resigned to the fact that I will never see her alive again.

shatterzzz
October 1, 2021 2:33 pm
Gab
Gab
October 1, 2021 2:34 pm

”Available scientific data suggests that in MOST people immune responses remain robust & protective against reinfection for at least 6-8 months after infection (the longest follow up with strong scientific evidence … 8 months).” – World Health Organisation

https://apps.who.int/iris/bitstream/handle/10665/341241/WHO-2019-nCoV-Sci-Brief-Natural-immunity-2021.1-eng.pdf

Lysander
Lysander
October 1, 2021 2:35 pm

Not a uuuge fan of Gladys, but when Kean gets a major promotion… you’ll all be crying for the gulags.

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
October 1, 2021 2:35 pm

Wonder why naming the religion wasn’t a media priority? .. LOL!

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/religious-leader-arrested-over-alleged-dollar40000-charity-fraud/ar-AAP18wD?li=AAgfYrC

It’sobvious Arky, he’s a Zorastrian

Zipster
Zipster
October 1, 2021 2:35 pm

But it doesn’t take many increased hospitalizations to overwhelm the system because of narrow margins

you’re missing the point, that people are racing to hospital because they think they are going to die.

just because you have the flu and feel like shit is no reason to go to hospital. gp’s can deal with it. measuring your O2 sat is simple way to see if you are getting into trouble. if you are into cytokine storm territory, simple corticosteroids can be prescribed. anyone by now who is vulnerable should have decided to be vaccinated or take their chances.

instead of being told go see your gp, the gp’s are saying if you have any symptoms stay away we don’t want to die!

it’s the greatest fear campaign in human history.

Gab
Gab
October 1, 2021 2:35 pm

World Health Organisation:

”Within 4 weeks following infection, 90-99% of individuals infected with the SARS-CoV-2 virus develop detectable neutralizing antibodies.”

Why are we not allowed to be tested for antibodies?

https://apps.who.int/iris/bitstream/handle/10665/341241/WHO-2019-nCoV-Sci-Brief-Natural-immunity-2021.1-eng.pdf

rickw
rickw
October 1, 2021 2:36 pm

Stroke earlier this year and last week a fall resulting in a broken hip. Just out of surgery yesterday, refusing to eat or co-operate.
I’m resigned to the fact that I will never see her alive again.

Terrible.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 1, 2021 2:37 pm

Over the past 18 months, Gladys has subjected citizens to a range of punitive & capricious rules by way of decree.
With huge penalties threatened if not adhered to.

For a period of time while premier Gladys didn’t adhere to a simple rule.
That was:
don’t do anything, as premier, that the person you’re fucking will benefit from.

Considering 2021 especially, I have zero sympathy for her (regardless of the abomination the star chamber that is ICAC is .

John H.
John H.
October 1, 2021 2:37 pm

Zipstersays:
October 1, 2021 at 2:35 pm
But it doesn’t take many increased hospitalizations to overwhelm the system because of narrow margins

you’re missing the point, that people are racing to hospital because they think they are going to die.

Doctors make that decision, not patients.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 1, 2021 2:38 pm

Daily Mail.

How Gladys Berejiklian was just weeks away from securing lifetime benefits – and will miss out on up to $400,000 a year in perks including a car, driver, office and staff after shock resignation

NSW Premier was just 16 weeks away from getting a lifetime of benefits
Barry O’Farrell tried to get rid of the program entirely due to spiralling cost
Gladys Berejiklian resigned due to an ICAC investigation into corruption

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 1, 2021 2:41 pm

Where is Leigh Lowe? I’ve not seen him since Sinc shut down his Cat.

Who do you think this Panzer chap is?
Seriously.

rickw
rickw
October 1, 2021 2:41 pm

but can anyone explain how exactly my refusal to use any vax documentation helps their case?

The QR code scanning would be dead tomorrow if everyone stopped using it. Sadly most seem to need 14 days home incarceration before they get it.

Cassie of Sydney
October 1, 2021 2:45 pm

“feelthebernsays:
October 1, 2021 at 2:41 pm
Where is Leigh Lowe? I’ve not seen him since Sinc shut down his Cat.

Who do you think this Panzer chap is?
Seriously”

I was joking!

Mater
October 1, 2021 2:46 pm

I would estimate that, of the 85%, less than 5% will voluntarily forego use of any passport as a gesture of solidarity.
Explain how being part of that 5% will make a scrap of difference.

You’re probably right, but you’ve just validated the point.
If more people DID jack up in solidarity, it MIGHT make a difference. It certainly won’t if they don’t.
That it probably won’t, doesn’t negate the point being made.

Having a Plan B is outside of the scope of what we were discussing.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 1, 2021 2:46 pm

LOL.
Got it.

duncanm
duncanm
October 1, 2021 2:47 pm

btw – I just had a poke at a ‘certified’ covid vax pdf.

Would be trivial to change the name on it.

duncanm
duncanm
October 1, 2021 2:49 pm

I would estimate that, of the 85%, less than 5% will voluntarily forego use of any passport as a gesture of solidarity.

I beg to differ.. I’ve been quite surprised at the push-back from many I know who are quite happy to get the vax, but refuse to be involved in enforcement of passports of any kind.

They pretty much say they same thing – people’s medical situation is none of my business.

Its only the odd chicken-little who has bought into the whole paranoia who thinks it should be enforced.

John H.
John H.
October 1, 2021 2:50 pm

rickwsays:
October 1, 2021 at 2:41 pm
but can anyone explain how exactly my refusal to use any vax documentation helps their case?

The QR code scanning would be dead tomorrow if everyone stopped using it. Sadly most seem to need 14 days home incarceration before they get it.

The only time I use it is at the library because it is compulsory. I have noticed people are voluntarily scanning at various shops.

Arky I’m not seeing resistance to these demands. The greater majority are submissive and I don’t think that is going to change.

duncanm
duncanm
October 1, 2021 2:54 pm

I have noticed people are voluntarily scanning at various shops.

but are they? If there’s a door stooge, I voluntarily wave my camera at the QR code to keep him happy.

Doesn’t mean I’m checking in.

Delta A
Delta A
October 1, 2021 2:54 pm

sfwsays:
October 1, 2021 at 2:28 pm

That’s terrible, sfw.

Best wishes to you and your mum.

Delta A
Delta A
October 1, 2021 2:58 pm

Arkysays:
October 1, 2021 at 2:33 pm

Commiserations to Arky, too.

What a cruel and corrupted world we live in these days.

Indolent
Indolent
October 1, 2021 3:03 pm

Internet of Bodies

This is the future they propose. They even have an acronym for it, IOB, that’s how comfortable they are with it. Terrifying and horrifying, like a science fiction nightmare except you can’t wake up or put down the book.

Bons
October 1, 2021 3:03 pm

I just heard this. ‘Scott Bercow’!
Achingly apt comparison.
Has the creep applied for us to join the EU yet.
Scott Bercow – love it.

Diogenes
Diogenes
October 1, 2021 3:04 pm

The QR code scanning would be dead tomorrow if everyone stopped using it.

Watching 9/10 just walk through at Cole’s without even pretending to scan in. About 5/10 for smaller retailers. The only places I have seen it physically checked are 2 local clubs and Kmart.

twostix
twostix
October 1, 2021 3:06 pm

Arky it was obvious last year that certain people were playing the old ‘conservative’ boomer schtick of deliberately making a faux-‘fighting’ retreat on all of this. AKA ‘we’re going to make lots of noise about this, but not actually do anything, except aggresively capitulate wholly and as soon as possible at every possible moment along the way so we suffer no social discomfort what-so-ever until this is finished and we can then quietly ease into the new social order and forget about it all forever’.

Which is fine, I guess, the problem comes in when other people actually do want to do something and are willing to take a stand, nip it in the bud say, and, with their grift now potentially exposed (how can we continue to deliberately do nothing if those people are doing something?! They’re asking us why we’re supporting this when for the last year we were saying we never would support this! Oh no! This is getting awkward! Get them!), they join up and start relentlessly hen-pecking and tearing down anyone who is making a stand. People start wondering why these people keep on making excuses, day after day about how yesterdays line in the sand is now ‘just x’. It’s ‘just two weeks’, ‘just a mask’, ‘just anzac day’, ‘just easter’, ‘just a building[church]’, ‘just a vaccine’, ‘just a job condition’ and now, today, just a passport.

It is literally the very essence of brand ‘conservatism’ bottled and delivered: 100% passive aggressive capitulation.

calli
calli
October 1, 2021 3:07 pm

My cousin died this week. None of us can go to the funeral. His children, brother, ex-wife, aunt and uncle, cousins. Only his sister.

He served his country in the Navy, and it was that service, via an ongoing tussle with cancer, that killed him.

Thank you government. You’re real champs.

Zipster
Zipster
October 1, 2021 3:08 pm

Doctors make that decision, not patients.

the advice is and has been stay home and if you start to feel unwell go to hospital.

I am not sure what point you trying to make.

Bons
October 1, 2021 3:08 pm

So the IPA’s Wilson – the new age man of the future is just another photios traitor.
My disgust for the LNP leaves me quivering.

John H.
John H.
October 1, 2021 3:08 pm

duncanmsays:
October 1, 2021 at 2:54 pm
I have noticed people are voluntarily scanning at various shops.

but are they? If there’s a door stooge, I voluntarily wave my camera at the QR code to keep him happy.

Doesn’t mean I’m checking in.

It is voluntary Duncan and no-one is checking so I’m at a loss as to why they would feign signing in.

Indolent
Indolent
October 1, 2021 3:09 pm

Riddle me this. The jabs reduce, but don’t stop the ability to transmit the virus.

Actually, no. If I understand correctly, it has the opposite effect. Because the jab reduces the symptoms in the sufferer, the viral load is higher before the illness takes hold. Therefore, there’s more, not less, scope for passing it on to others.

calli
calli
October 1, 2021 3:11 pm

Government has grown so huge that the piddling “check-in” at shops won’t matter.

Transport, services, corporations and large entities like shopping centres will all be on board. All medical – GP, diagnostic, dental, hospital.

These are the pinch points.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 1, 2021 3:12 pm

we’re going to make lots of noise about this, but not actually do anything, except aggresively capitulate wholly and as soon as possible at every possible moment along the way so we suffer no social discomfort what-so-ever until this is finished and we can then quietly ease into the new social order and forget about it all forever’.

Stop quoting Pauline Hanson.

calli
calli
October 1, 2021 3:14 pm

looks like sinovax will be getting the tick, no surprise really.

That’s what I was referring to in my open for students comment.

Because we trust them to “do the right thing” as that last NSW premier kept telling us to do. Or else.

rosie
rosie
October 1, 2021 3:18 pm

Indeed after 244 days of lockdown, in what anyone with half a brain can see is a defacto police state, (we even have a curfew), we Melbournians are all about the ‘no social discomfort’.

The people with zero skin in the game are the easy ones to pick here.

P
P
October 1, 2021 3:19 pm

My sister called earlier and said that the doctor thinks mum has liver cancer, she’s 86 and has been in poor health for the last 5 years or so, sister asks if I can go down and help get mum to doctors etc, I said no problem but then she says that I have to be vaxxed, I asked why and she reckons they won’t let me into the hospitals etc. I said I’d think about it, now I have my two sisters turning on me and if what they say is true it’s unlikely that I’ll be able to see mum if she ends up in a hospital or hospice etc. These are evil times, I don’t know what to do.

Sfw, far too difficult for me to answer.

For a Christian I would say to consider The Fourth Commandment:
“Honor your father and your mother, that your days may be long in the land which the Lord your God gives you.”
Think also perhaps what you can give back to your mother for the precious gift of life she gave you.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
October 1, 2021 3:20 pm

Wonder why naming the religion wasn’t a media priority? .. LOL!

I have long been mystified as to who these serial miscreants are. The press won’t tell. But I have been able to piece together from clues what they so studiously try to conceal.

When will someone do something about these damned Seventh Day Adventists!

rosie
rosie
October 1, 2021 3:22 pm

I am more positive about the opening up of international travel Cassie, it puts pressure on premiers, who we know desperately want those students, to make things normal for the rest of us.

International students, four or six to a dogbox apartment, in yet another interminable lockdown?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 1, 2021 3:23 pm

It is voluntary Duncan and no-one is checking

They’re checking at local Coles here. The QRers have to show the phone to the door nazi.
But I think that store got nuked by plod for being lackadaisical after a couple of infested people visited it. I guess the tracers communicated displeasure to powers upon high.

srr
srr
October 1, 2021 3:24 pm

Keep up the team work –

Sancho Panzersays:
October 1, 2021 at 1:58 pm

[…] labelling someone a “good little German”[…]
is calling someone a Nazi […]

We all know it’s perfectly fine for Cassie to directly call someone a Nazi supporter & worse, and expect to be believed that there’s no hate in her constant attacks, that (like rosie), even deny her targets their faith & family history … yeah, nah, there’s no jokes or laughter there, only pure, pathetic, hypocritical hate.

Cassie of Sydney
October 1, 2021 3:28 pm

“We all know it’s perfectly fine for Cassie to directly call someone a Nazi supporter & worse,”

Another lie…in fact a big lie. Keep your lies coming Nongbat.

From hereon I’ll call you Nongbat the Liar.

duncanm
duncanm
October 1, 2021 3:28 pm

It is voluntary Duncan and no-one is checking so I’m at a loss as to why they would feign signing in.

err, no. The business can refuse entry
https://www.nsw.gov.au/covid-19/covid-safe/customer-record-keeping/mandatory-electronic-check-in#rules-for-occupiers-of-premises

If a person refuses to check in at your premises, you may refuse entry to that person. It is a matter for the occupier of each premises to exercise judgement on what is appropriate for your premises and for the well-being of your staff and customers.

Indolent
Indolent
October 1, 2021 3:29 pm

Nice work ScoMo, producing an unnecessary health crisis just before a Federal election.

I don’t think he cares. He said months ago that Australia would be a different place by December and he obviously meant it.

John H.
John H.
October 1, 2021 3:30 pm

Bruce of Newcastlesays:
October 1, 2021 at 3:23 pm
It is voluntary Duncan and no-one is checking

They’re checking at local Coles here. The QRers have to show the phone to the door nazi.
But I think that store got nuked by plod for being lackadaisical after a couple of infested people visited it. I guess the tracers communicated displeasure to powers upon high.

Bruce I expect checking will eventually happen up here. Paleochook is winning the PR battle despite the border closure ruining many employers and jobs. Paleochook doesn’t have to worry because the LNP up here are useless.

twostix
twostix
October 1, 2021 3:33 pm

Now if a person is legitimately in an impossible place with this stuff there’s naturally room to move morally, E.g they must work to feed their babies or starve, but such a thing is a tragedy and is additional fuel for the furnace of a righteous movement.

The sickest thing of all is it’s the complete opposite happening here: those of us with the most to lose, with young families, big mortgages, still working, still forced into the CBD’s and commutes are the ones who are refusing and chaffing most about this, and are watching as over-fed upper middle class retired shits have spent nearly two years getting all uppity when we ask, well this is us, what are you going to do about this nightmare that is being done to us for 100% your benefit?

“How dare you even ask us that!” is the answer we keep getting.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 1, 2021 3:34 pm

Arkysays:

October 1, 2021 at 2:29 pm

I seriously can’t believe some of you are cheerfully going to line up to show your papers, and in the midst of THAT, it’s me and Mater and Stix who are the problem.

As far as I can see, no-one said that.
All I am seeing from the vaxxed (of which I am not one) and those tossing up (of which I am one) is that everyone should be free make there own decision.
It’s almost as if people are looking to load others up with guilt for exercising their freedom to choose.
That’s a huge “get fucked” from me.

John H.
John H.
October 1, 2021 3:35 pm

duncanmsays:
October 1, 2021 at 3:28 pm
It is voluntary Duncan and no-one is checking so I’m at a loss as to why they would feign signing in.

err, no. The business can refuse entry
https://www.nsw.gov.au/covid-19/covid-safe/customer-record-keeping/mandatory-electronic-check-in#rules-for-occupiers-of-premises

If a person refuses to check in at your premises, you may refuse entry to that person. It is a matter for the occupier of each premises to exercise judgement on what is appropriate for your premises and for the well-being of your staff and customers.

I’m in Qld, I have never been asked to sign in at a retail outlet. Apart from one Kmart store I’m not even seeing signs demanding people must sign in.

rosie
rosie
October 1, 2021 3:37 pm

Things that didn’t happen for ten points please.

Zipster
Zipster
October 1, 2021 3:38 pm

Arky I’m not seeing resistance to these demands. The greater majority are submissive and I don’t think that is going to change.

the last time I was asked to scan QR I said I wasnt going to and was told “suit yourself”

local oaf
October 1, 2021 3:42 pm

Everywhere I’ve been into here in South Australia has QR codes and paper sign in sheets.

I’ve never QR’d and often just walked past paper sheet sign ins and never encountered anyone trying to stop me or even asking me to sign.

Then again, I don’t go into many places so I don’t know if this is widespread.

Who knows how this might change locally if passports become a reality.

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
October 1, 2021 3:42 pm

And the next step to simplify those pesky check ins will be your credit card.
We can scan your card as you enter the shop, without you having to take it out of your wallet. Easy peasy.
Better still we can send the location data direct to the government. (or tyrant of your choice*).

* terms and conditions apply

Indolent
Indolent
October 1, 2021 3:42 pm

Meanwhile the truly malignant, malicious and evil Daniel Andrews remains premier.

There’s no justice in this world.

Yes, there is some. Gladys is equally malignant, malicious and evil in the effects of her actions and deserves everything she gets. I hope they all get their comeuppance.

Now to see what, if any, difference it will make in NSW.

Cassie of Sydney
October 1, 2021 3:44 pm

I just tried to make an online booking at a restaurant in Woollahra….for November. They say they will check vaccination papers.

I didn’t continue with the booking.

Gab
Gab
October 1, 2021 3:47 pm

I just tried to make an online booking at a restaurant in Woollahra….for November. They say they will check vaccination papers.

Ask them to show you the legislation that states private enterprises have legal authority to ”check” private and sensitive information.

there isn’t any such law.

Again, a mandate is not a law. Neither is a ”directive” nor ”health orders”.

Winston Smith
October 1, 2021 3:49 pm

Sancho Panzer:

Hard to believe that square-jawed, flinty-eyed, sun-bronzed Queenssslanders need to hide behind the skirts of Southern ladies, without whose protection they will wilt and fall.

How about the overweight, pale and pasty Queeenssslandersss getting prepared for when I’m not allowed into the local IGA without a freedom muzzle and a pass?
Just filled up the two cars and the fuel dump, ran the genset for the monthly maintenance, spent >$500 at the local IGA and priced a rainwater tank and pump.
Fuck ’em.

Zipster
Zipster
October 1, 2021 3:50 pm
Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
October 1, 2021 3:50 pm

If I understand correctly, it has the opposite effect. Because the jab reduces the symptoms in the sufferer, the viral load is higher before the illness takes hold.

Not according to the UK COVID-19 Infection Survey Team, who find:

With Delta, infections occurring following two vaccinations had similar peak viral burden to those in unvaccinated individuals.

Preprint.

Tom
Tom
October 1, 2021 3:50 pm

Where is Leigh Lowe?

He’s here, Cassie — and a frequent poster.

Think German artillery with a Latino accent.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 1, 2021 3:52 pm

But it doesn’t take many increased hospitalizations to overwhelm the system because of narrow margins

So why buy 20,000 ventilators if you can only staff 2,000?
The key problem is, Elf Care is a government system and they can’t let go of the normal bureaucratic protocols unless absolutely forced to.
Imagine if that earthquake last week was under Collins St with thousands injured. Further imagine images of ambulances lined up outside hospitals whilst forms were filled out in triplicate interspersed with images of people crying for help in collapsed buildings.
Would not happen.
So why are we clinging to the business-as-usual hospital model when it is anything but usual?
Intensive care for Kung Flu is not as we might imagine it for, say, a transplant or critically injured car accident victim.
It is monitoring, a limited suite of drugs and maybe oxygen.
They could have put 10,000 people through a 4 week “Covid Nurse’s Aide” course where they were specifically trained to monitor patients for a small number of symptoms and readings.
Escalate the small number whose condition worsens to more experienced staff and discharge the rest when they inevitably recover.

cohenite
October 1, 2021 3:52 pm

Wilson and his poofie mates at the federal level and kean and his spiv mates at the state level should do to the NSW and Fed libs what that rancid fucktard did to them in WA.

It’s amazing to me: time after time we see so-called conservatives get swallowed by woke, leftie causes and think by being filth or liar lite the punters will embrace them. Either that or they’re lefties to begin with and are happy to destroy the libs. But I don’t think that’s the case because they are destroying themselves too. So I guess it’s just good old fashioned hubris and cognitive dissonance.

sfw
sfw
October 1, 2021 3:53 pm

Arky, no good re your mum, dunno what can be done.

P – I love my mum but she was a lousy mum when I was growing up, all of kids got terrible beatings, I know now that she had depression and also had an abusive childhood, still doesn’t excuse her though, I never beat my kids. As for the gift of life, well there’s been many times I wish I never had it and the current situation is bringing it all back.

duncanm
duncanm
October 1, 2021 3:54 pm

twostixsays:
October 1, 2021 at 3:33 pm
..
upper middle class retired shits

yes – I certainly get the impression many are from this demographic, but I wouldn’t tar all of them with the brush.

That, and ABC/public-servant/teacher types who know their employment is secure.

Cassie of Sydney
October 1, 2021 3:56 pm

” As for the gift of life, well there’s been many times I wish I never had it and the current situation is bringing it all back.”

Please don’t think like that. A Holocaust survivor once told me that life is a precious gift and we need to always treasure it even in dark times.

Winston Smith
October 1, 2021 3:56 pm

Delta A:

Certainly, I am wary about having an experimental gene therapy injection. But I’m more worried about the manic push to have everyone vaccinated against a virus that is far less lethal than the annual flu.

That’s the part that has raised my hackles.
Why the manic hair -on-fire need to get everyone treated?
Why the propaganda?
If I’m allowed to choose to die by narcotic injection when I’m with end stage cancer, why can’t I die by getting the Wuhan Zombie Virus?
Huh?

duncanm
duncanm
October 1, 2021 3:58 pm

Although I need to be careful not to pigeonhole all teachers, too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agCoL8EcwL0

Zipster
Zipster
October 1, 2021 3:59 pm
Mater
October 1, 2021 3:59 pm

I’m not sure I’ve seen or read a more condescending pile of shit than this:

‘Are you double dosed?’ How to ask friends and family if they’re vaccinated, and how to handle it if they say no

If I have, it’s been a while.

Winston Smith
October 1, 2021 4:00 pm

srr:

There’s always one step more, one jab more, one test more to re-prove how many “person” “rights” you qualify for.
It doesn’t end.
That’s what the early warner’s were warning of and why they called for mass non-compliance.

Never pay blackmail – there’s no end to it.
Better to have the blackmailer fall down the stairs when pissed. (PFO – Pissed and Fell Over adorns many a medical history.)

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
October 1, 2021 4:03 pm

Sorry to hear about your Mum Arky.
(“Liking” your post didn’t seem right)

Roger
Roger
October 1, 2021 4:05 pm

Jeff Kennett has described Malcolm Turnbull as “friendless”.

But that’s not entirely true…there’s Kevin Rudd.

Ellen of Tasmania
Ellen of Tasmania
October 1, 2021 4:06 pm

“This is the full list of Victorian authorised workers who need to get vaccinated against COVID to remain on site”
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-10-01/victoria-which-authorised-workers-mandatory-vaccination-onsite/100506980

It’s a long list.

cohenite
October 1, 2021 4:06 pm

Biden gets another radical freak nominated to a position of power:

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/09/30/senate-confirms-joe-biden-ecoterrorist-nominee-lead-bureau-land-management/

Aside from her ecoterrorism involvement, opposition to Stone-Manning also stemmed from extremist views she held such as those found in her master’s thesis. In the thesis, she advocated for the creation of population control propaganda. Nearly 30 years after she wrote the thesis, in June 2020, Stone-Manning requested the University of Montana restrict access to it.

The controversial thesis featured one ad stating, “When we have children, the planet feels it more. Do the truly smart thing. Stop at one or two kids.” Another read, “Stop at two. It could be the best thing you do for the planet.” The latter advertisement, which identified “overpopulation” as a “problem” in America, featured a photo of a child with the caption, “Can you find the environmental hazard in this photo?”

Delta A
Delta A
October 1, 2021 4:08 pm

If I’m allowed to choose to die by narcotic injection when I’m with end stage cancer, why can’t I die by getting the Wuhan Zombie Virus?

Good point, Winnie.

Winston Smith
October 1, 2021 4:09 pm

Twostix:
This.

That is the reality of what you are engaging and endorsing by accepting a ‘passport’ based social order. No matter what lies you tell yourself, if you accept it you are part of that system and you have personally empowered it.
Without your consent it cannot exist.

Someone is going to arc up badly, and there will be damage.
…and that person will spend the rest of their life in gaol, while the Good Germans cheer and shout “Seig Heil!”

Winston Smith
October 1, 2021 4:11 pm

Who is ‘you’ engaging with and endorsing a social passport?
Lizzie indicated she might, to get a haircut.

Oh, and I’m growing my hair.
(Winston emits a hairy and terrifying grrowwwlll.)

calli
calli
October 1, 2021 4:13 pm

I just tried to make an online booking at a restaurant in Woollahra….for November. They say they will check vaccination papers.

Ask them to show you the legislation that states private enterprises have legal authority to ”check” private and sensitive information.

Ask them if any of their staff or patrons are HIV positive.

Dot
Dot
October 1, 2021 4:14 pm

If a person refuses to check in at your premises, you may refuse entry to that person. It is a matter for the occupier of each premises to exercise judgement on what is appropriate for your premises and for the well-being of your staff and customers.

Is this a recommendation or regulation?

It matters as if it is not backed by by legislation or delegated legislation (regulation), then it breaches the state anti discrimination Act.

Delta A
Delta A
October 1, 2021 4:15 pm

From Mater’s link at 3.59 pm:

These new rules, coming into effect in New South Wales and Victoria, place the responsibility for policing vaccination on individuals.

Calling all Karens…

Cassie of Sydney
October 1, 2021 4:20 pm

“Ask them if any of their staff or patrons are HIV positive.”

Quite so Calli…quite so.

Bar Beach Swimmer
October 1, 2021 4:21 pm

I go back to my original point made some months ago that when Frewin took control of the Commonwealth’s vaccine rollout he said to Gladys that unless she locked down no-one in NSW would get jabbed and without high vaccination rates, the country could never open up without mud all over the faces of the political class (which would happen when the virus petered out to (almost) nothing).

In late June and after hardly any cases – I think it was just the one from the driver – she said that this possibly would be the worse time ever for the state. I thought – “wtf? what are you talking about?.” Her statement made no sense in the context of the actual situation, taking into consideration that cases mean nothing if illness does not eventuate in hospitalisation, and as Gladys herself had previously argued.

At her “worst time ever” statement, she went on to say, and kept saying, that “Delta is different.” Though not once did she ever really explain why that was the case – yes, her and Chant talked about greater transmissibility but that was all.

But that tack enabled her to bring in lockdowns, which forced people to close their businesses and stop them from working. Then we had the announcements that everyone had to be vaccinated and those who were not vaccinated would not have freedom, which was restated over and over again to coerce people to get jabbed.

Daniel Andrews is the worst of the current crop of premiers. However, he was and is a socialist; no-one could fail to understand what they were getting in voting for him.

Reading through the list of beliefs of the NSW Liberal Party, which I put up the other day – https://nsw.liberal.org.au/Our-Party/Our-Beliefs – shows how far the NSW Liberal Party and Gladys have moved from those beliefs. Her betrayal of the people of NSW imho therefore is even worse than what Andrews has done to Victoria: whereas he followed through on socialist philosophy, on the state’s response to the China Pestilence Gladys tore up her Liberal beliefs.

I think it was twostix upthread who said that Gladys had to bring in the vaccine passport stuff because, with the state’s increasing antipathy to him, had Andrews done it, it could never have gotten up. I only agree from the point of view that Andrews and his government are completely inept except in furthering their corruption of the political system in Victoria: they would never have got it running in any reasonable and effective sense.

Gladys and the NSW Coalition have been very good managers of the state of NSW, so were the ideal candidates to do the dirty work of the Federal Government. As well, more than likely given the rest of the states (the ones of consequence, I mean, you know who you are) would not have agreed with undertaking the rollout to assist Morrison.

But whether Gladys did what she did to provide cover to Morrison – who incidentally looked really shocked after her announcement and who tried to mount a vigorous defence of her – ultimately Gladys threw over her state and its people as well as her political beliefs for base political reasons and in doing so, she threw out the freedoms and equal citizenship of the citizens of a democratic state. I said the other day that I couldn’t bear the sight of the woman – and that had nothing to do with her looks. As Dot said, she did it to herself.

That Jo
That Jo
October 1, 2021 4:22 pm

Oh, and I’m growing my hair.

My hairdresser messaged me… please please come see us, here is your appointment time ….

Also are you vaccinated (sorry we have to ask!)

I said “Sure sure you do, I will bring wads of cash, is that ok??”

Apparently works the same as vaxx papers!

John H.
John H.
October 1, 2021 4:22 pm

Why won’t China Surpass the United States?

There are some interesting points in this video. Poor productivity, looming demographic issues, and have a huge number of military personnel doesn’t matter that much in modern warfare but has imposes huge costs on the country.

duncanm
duncanm
October 1, 2021 4:23 pm

callisays:
October 1, 2021 at 4:13 pm
I just tried to make an online booking at a restaurant in Woollahra….for November. They say they will check vaccination papers.

Ask them to show you the legislation that states private enterprises have legal authority to ”check” private and sensitive information.

Ask them if any of their staff or patrons are HIV positive.

indeed – there was a very good response to this a while back (twitter maybe?).

Yes sir, you may have my vaccination status. Do you mind giving me the full medical history of yourself, all the wait-staff, cooks, management and anyone else who is likely to have come in contact with my table, cutlery, drinks and food ?

Eyrie
Eyrie
October 1, 2021 4:24 pm

looks like sinovax will be getting the tick, no surprise really.

That’s the one that didn’t do well in the Seychelles.

Eyrie
Eyrie
October 1, 2021 4:24 pm

Unfortunately Leigh Lowe has changed his handle but I still miss Infidel Tiger.

Megan
Megan
October 1, 2021 4:25 pm

How Gladys Berejiklian was just weeks away from securing lifetime benefits – and will miss out on up to $400,000 a year in perks including a car, driver, office and staff after shock resignation

All politicians should be unceremoniously dumped 16 weeks before the benefits kick in. It would serve them right.

That Jo
That Jo
October 1, 2021 4:25 pm

Ellen of Tasmaniasays:
October 1, 2021 at 4:06 pm
“This is the full list of Victorian authorised workers who need to get vaccinated against COVID to remain on site”

It’s everyone! Unless you work from home. God damn thought I would get away without this.


Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
October 1, 2021 4:26 pm

As for the gift of life, well there’s been many times I wish I never had it and the current situation is bringing it all back.
****
It’s a terrible situation sfw. (You too Arky.)
The evildoers have placed you in a position where you just have to choose the option in which you can do as much good as is possible under the shackles you’ve been put into. I know what I’d do but I won’t give advice. Just good wishes, and an assurance that whatever decision you make in good faith it won’t be you who’s in dire straits when a greater power calls all of us before the final enquiry.

calli
calli
October 1, 2021 4:27 pm

On the “life is a gift”, There is also this:

In happiness or unhappiness, living is a duty, and must be done thoroughly.” ? Ellis Peters, The Rose Rent.

You just never know what’s around the corner. Check thoroughly before you turn it. Preferably with a mirror on a stick. 😀

Cassie of Sydney
October 1, 2021 4:27 pm

“Eyriesays:
October 1, 2021 at 4:24 pm
Unfortunately Leigh Lowe has changed his handle but I still miss Infidel Tiger.”

Many of us do.

Zipster
Zipster
October 1, 2021 4:27 pm

Why the manic hair -on-fire need to get everyone treated?
Why the propaganda?

weaponised mers? there won’t be any notice if it’s released until its too late.

Bar Beach Swimmer
October 1, 2021 4:28 pm

How Gladys Berejiklian was just weeks away from securing lifetime benefits – and will miss out on up to $400,000 a year in perks including a car, driver, office and staff after shock resignation

Given that she’s held out for almost a year after the first questions began, going now, may suggest that ICAC has a fair bit on her.

TailgunneR
TailgunneR
October 1, 2021 4:28 pm

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Bearesays:
September 30, 2021 at 10:49 pm
Got my Vax certificate in PDF on my ‘puter ready to print now.

What a performance to get it
Collaborators beaming in their shiny SS uniforms.
Enjoy your privileged status. However long that lasts. See you in 1945.
The resistance never forgets.

calli
calli
October 1, 2021 4:31 pm

looks like sinovax will be getting the tick, no surprise really.

And here’s another “what the actual…” from me too.

Why, in the name of all that’s good and holy, are we bringing in…nay, welcoming…people from the place that has ruined us financially and psychologically and then lied about it? The country whose leader has denigrated us, cut trade with us, bullied us. Why?

And there are still Aussies trying to get home.

Arky
October 1, 2021 4:31 pm

Unfortunately Leigh Lowe has changed his handle but I still miss Infidel Tiger.”

Many of us do.

..
really?
I too could be completely wrong about everything while demanding people cup my balls.
It’s not that hard.

caveman
caveman
October 1, 2021 4:33 pm

Is anyone watching Skah right now and the crying Karen. FMD.

Arky
October 1, 2021 4:33 pm

And there are still Aussies trying to get home.

..
No there aren’t.
Cup my balls.
[See? It’s very, very easy]

Eyrie
Eyrie
October 1, 2021 4:33 pm

A week ago Mrs Eyrie and I were in a small Queensland town near the boder with NSW. Walked up and down the main drag and stopped at the Real Estate agent. Looked at some properties on the board.
Shortly a young (mid 30′) lady accosted us and asked if she could help. Got to talking and there is strong demand from people fleeing the big smoke. Which got to the coof/vax. Said lady was vehement she wasn’t taking it and neither were her partner or 5 kids. Will retreat to the family farm if mandatory vax. Her nurse sister was working at the coast in a Covid ward. Had all of three patients come through but seeing vax injuries so not having the vax and quitting job when mandatory. She isn’t the only one.
Side note, the lady was from NZ and needed an NZ Police Criminal record check to get an Australian RE licence. She left when she was 4.

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
October 1, 2021 4:34 pm

Never pay blackmail – there’s no end to it.
*****
“For once you start paying the Danegeld,
You’ll never get rid of the Dane.”
Rudyard Kipling
[Apologies to Cats with Viking heritage.]

Arky
October 1, 2021 4:38 pm

The Liberals are a shoe in at the next Federal election.
Cup my balls.
[Someone stop me, this is so easy it’s habit forming]

calli
calli
October 1, 2021 4:39 pm

Fine Arky.

I’ll just heat up the jaffle iron. Ready in a jif.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
October 1, 2021 4:41 pm

This is the full list of Victorian authorised workers who need to get vaccinated against COVID to remain on site

Amongst them the whole of the Victorian judiciary, it’s servants, and the lawtrade. Interesting release, then, by the Victorian Supreme Court:

Legal challenges to directions under that Act have been brought before the courts. Those matters will be heard and determined according to law. The Courts and VCAT will therefore not be making comment or responding to inquiries that go directly or indirectly to questions of legality of the directions. Operational changes by the courts and VCAT should not be taken as expression of a judicial view about legal issues before the courts.

Looks like their Honners are anticipating jab-uptake issues and that the administration of justice in Victoria is about to become a little more random than usual.

TailgunneR
TailgunneR
October 1, 2021 4:42 pm

I know they will both register a protest at the desk, and that may be the best people can do for a while until the hysteria dies down.
Lol.
Stunning &Brave.
We see you all, collaborators.
No mercy.
You may end up with a haircut. Just like the collaborator gals in the Netherlands in 1945.
If not worse.
Love, the Jews(colorized, 2021)

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 1, 2021 4:45 pm

duncanmsays:
October 1, 2021 at 3:28 pm
It is voluntary Duncan and no-one is checking so I’m at a loss as to why they would feign signing in.

err, no. The business can refuse entry

NSW I don’t know about.
In Victorianistan it is vague as to who bears legal responsibility.
We went across to Bendigo between LockDans 16 and 17. Sitting in a cafe and a bloke walks in loudly joking about signing in as Mickey Mouse. The cafe owner said, “That’s cool with me mate. All I have to do is place the sign-in in a prominent, accessible place and encourage sign in. It is ultimately the customer’s liability for fines if sign in isn’t done.”
I thought this was bluff by the cafe owner, but reading the rules later, I think he might have been correct. In typical DHHS fashion, it was as clear as mud in a beer bottle, but it seemed to support what he said. At worst they would both be liable.
In any case, I don’t stress about sign-ins at Colesworth, but I refuse to put more pressure on already stressed businesspeople and their staff.
Incidentally, Mr Mouse discreetly got his phone out after a couple of minutes and logged in using the QR code stuck to the menu.
Brave as.

Indolent
Indolent
October 1, 2021 4:45 pm

your local gp can deal with most cases, there is little need to go to hospital.

If he’s allowed – which he isn’t at the moment. That is a crime in itself.

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
October 1, 2021 4:46 pm

Bar Beach Swimmersays:
October 1, 2021 at 4:21 pm

Excellent comment Bar Beach Swimmer – Gladys showed her true colours, her treachery and deception long before the COVID-Debacle with the introduction of the horrendous legislation on abortion, something never discussed in the lead up to the 2019 election. Gladys is a soulless, feckless, arrogant creature and getting her exactness good and hard.

cohenite
October 1, 2021 4:47 pm

Alarmism has been around for a long time and as with everything left it’s characteristics are propaganda, aggression and intolerance; part of the alarmists’ intolerance is a compulsion to prosecute and destroy sceptics; here’s a sample:

Legalists’ demands to kill climate skeptics, end capitalism and cut population:
In 2005
? Margo Kingston, in Australia’s Daily Briefing, said: “Perhaps there is a case for making climate change denial an offence. It is a crime against humanity, after all.”
In 2006
? Bill McGuire, Professor of “Climate Change Impacts” at University College, London, said: “We have Holocaust deniers; we have climate change deniers. And, to be honest, I don’t think there’s a great deal of difference”;
? The Grist.com website called for Nuremberg-style trials for climate skeptics (though the article was later retracted);
? Heidi Cullen featured Dave Roberts, who said online, “When we’ve finally gotten serious about global warming, when the impacts are really hitting us and we’re in a full worldwide scramble to minimize the damage, we should have war crimes trials for these bastards – some sort of climate Nuremberg”;
? Mark Lynas, a “green” columnist often published in The Guardian, a London legalist newspaper, wrote: “I wonder what sentences judges might hand down at future international criminal tribunals on those who will be partially but directly responsible for millions of deaths from starvation, famine and disease in decades ahead. I put [their climate change denial] in a similar moral category to Holocaust denial – except that this time the Holocaust is yet to come, and we still have time to avoid it. Those who try to ensure we don’t will one day have to answer for their crimes”;
? Spiked Online reported that when a correspondent for the American current affairs show 60 Minutes was asked why his various feature programs on global warming did not include the views of global warming sceptics, he replied: “If I do an interview with Elie Wiesel, am I required as a journalist to find a Holocaust denier?”;
? The UK’s Foreign Secretary said climate skeptics should be denied access to the news media, following a much-publicized article in the Sunday Telegraph by the present author drawing attention to defects in official climate science.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 1, 2021 4:49 pm

Ask them if any of their staff or patrons are HIV positive.

In Woollahra?
Please, pick me sir!
I know this one!

Winston Smith
October 1, 2021 4:50 pm

Arky/Cassie:

“AND, I must say, this entire discussion is falling disturbingly into their plans to divide us.
Don’t let them do that.”

I’m a brand new member of the Low Tolerance Club.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 1, 2021 4:51 pm

Ways to win over support #63.
Call people Nazis.
Worked beautifully last week in Melbourne.

Zipster
Zipster
October 1, 2021 4:55 pm
TailgunneR
TailgunneR
October 1, 2021 4:55 pm

there’s a chance you might not show a passport when and if they they are introduced.
I’ll see you in the check in line @Tullamarine then?
The 3.30 to Paris.
Will you stand with your fellow Aussie, or use your collaborator card?
Love, the Jew (colorized,2021)

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
October 1, 2021 4:57 pm

In any case, I don’t stress about sign-ins at Colesworth, but I refuse to put more pressure on already stressed businesspeople and their staff.
*****
Agreed wholeheartedly. Find ways to protest that don’t conscript others – after all, isn’t conscription what we’re fighting against?

TailgunneR
TailgunneR
October 1, 2021 5:00 pm

The Transhuman Purity Pass IS the line.
The appeasers & collaborators can get fucked.
You’re complicit.
You’re guilty.
You’re gonna get no mercy.
Criminals get the Rope, Traitors get the Wire

sfw
sfw
October 1, 2021 5:00 pm

Talking to the missus about getting out of Vic, but where to go? I like seasons, worked in PNG for a while and the tropical heat is ok but the novelty wears off after a while. Anyway, thinking about FNQ and accepting the heat, maybe Tassie. I would look overseas but she won’t go that far so Andorra is out. We have enough to live ok and buy a smallish house. So any suggestions? I know Tasmania is a strange place with more than enough lefties and even stranger people but so far it seems to have escaped the totalitarian mindset.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 1, 2021 5:01 pm

Always be wary of nominees during big show pieces of legislation in the US.
During one of Trump’s impeachments they tried to rush through a DNC swamp thang who was so stanky she punched out.
This nominee above is similar in stank.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 1, 2021 5:02 pm

Hey Panzer.
You’re a nazi !

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 1, 2021 5:03 pm

sfw, it’s not too late to become a social media influencer.

TailgunneR
TailgunneR
October 1, 2021 5:05 pm

Haircuts & plane rides.
How easily the collaborators fall.
Enjoy your lives on your knees.
Pathetic

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 1, 2021 5:07 pm

Gunner, a hard 10 comes up to you & says she’ll sleep with you if you get vaxxed.
What do you do Gunner, what do you do?

h/t Speed.

caveman
caveman
October 1, 2021 5:07 pm

WTF has Chris Smith taken over the airwaves.

calli
calli
October 1, 2021 5:09 pm

Well…I cut my own hair the other day. As I did it with the big scissors, I thought about those poor women who were targeted after the war. Horrible stuff.

When mum saw me, she laughed! Hers is driving her crazy too. I did offer…but she declined.

Smart woman.

Zipster
Zipster
October 1, 2021 5:09 pm
Nelson_Kidd-Players
October 1, 2021 5:10 pm

calli says:
September 30, 2021 at 5:03 pm

I’m sorely tempted to buy a bread maker to save time. Anyone got a good brand?

Consider Panasonic, Calli. Assuming they make them as well as they did in the ’90s. Our SD-205 still does a good job, but the start button is hard to press.

cohenite
October 1, 2021 5:10 pm

From Advance Australia:

What is wrong with the Liberal party?
Just one week after the Prime Minister announced a new deal to deliver nuclear submarines that will improve our ability to defend ourselves in the coming decades – all his backbench can talk about is climate change.
In a concerted campaign to spread their climate hysteria from one end of the country to the other, inner-city Liberal MPs have been mouthing off about the need for the Coalition to adopt a zero-emissions target by 2050.
Why do the likes of Liberal MP’s Dave Sharma, Julian Simmonds and Trent Zimmerman think that fluctuating weather is a greater threat than the Chinese Communist Party who have the means and intent to dominate our part of the world?
Simmonds, just this week went on the record to say climate change is a top-line national security issue comparable to the AUKUS nuclear submarine deal with the US. If that’s what you really think Julian, then perhaps you should consider running for the Greens at the next election.
The Chinese Communist Party must be laughing at us. The money being wasted on schemes generated by climate change hysteria is the biggest scam the world has ever seen, and China is taking full advantage.
While we dismantle our coal-fired power stations and become weaker, China builds coal-fired power stations and becomes stronger.
They couldn’t give a damn about net emissions targets.
They use climate change politics as a strategic tool to weaken their enemies.
You and I both know China is bringing online so much coal-fired power generation it won’t make a lick of difference how much carbon Australia emits.
As Nationals Senate Leader Bridget McKenzie said this week, a 2050 zero-emission target is “the worst kind of vacuousness over values”.
“It is easy for the Member for Kooyong [Josh Frydenberg] or the Member for Wentworth [Dave Sharma] to publicly embrace net zero before the government has a position, because there would be next to zero real impact on the way of life of their affluent constituents,” she said.
And she’s right. Net-zero will hit the vast majority of normal Australians, not the wealthy inner-city elites. Not only will power prices continue to rise but according to the Institute for Public Affairs, 661,000 Australian jobs would be put at risk by a zero-emissions economy.
But inner-city elites couldn’t give a damn if some uneducated climate denier in the burbs can’t pay their power bills or loses a good paying job in a factory.
You know why?
Because they consider themselves superior to us. We don’t count.
What really matters to them, is that their neighbours and friends sing their praises for being such virtuous global citizens for refusing to use takeaway coffee cups and for posting feel-good green platitudes on their social media pages.
For the elites, it’s easier to pander to climate hysteria than to face a real problem like the one brewing as China flexes its muscles.
A plan to tackle carbon in 2050, but no plan to deal with China today.
It’s a deal no mainstream Australian will be happy with.

With the libs each candidate has to be chosen carefully on the basis of their position on this bullshit. If the LNP candidate in your electorate is a greenie then its Palmer or one of the other smaller parties. If the liars get in it’s all over red rover.

TailgunneR
TailgunneR
October 1, 2021 5:10 pm

No such thing as a 10, bern.
And don’t worry, I’ve lost plenty of notches with Transhumans already.
Purity of bloodlines is now the number 1 priority.
The fake vaxx war has already arrived in the online dating space.
Stay staunch!
#PureBlood

Rabz
October 1, 2021 5:11 pm

Massive electrickal storm time in Sydneystan – approaching biblical levels …

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 1, 2021 5:11 pm

Wrong answer Gunner.
You shoot the hostage.
Take them out of the equation.

Indolent
Indolent
October 1, 2021 5:12 pm

but are they? If there’s a door stooge, I voluntarily wave my camera at the QR code to keep him happy.

Unfortunately, yes. I can’t tell you how many people I’ve been routinely going up to scan the code when there’s no compulsion at all, in tiny little shops that you hardly have to take 2 steps in. Very sad.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 1, 2021 5:12 pm

God is angry that Gladys resigned.
Repent !

areff
areff
October 1, 2021 5:12 pm

What do you do Gunner, what do you do?

Lie.

calli
calli
October 1, 2021 5:14 pm

Thanks, Nelson. I saw one in KMart for $70 and it had good reviews.

Everything is made in the middle kingdom now, probably all at the same factory.

I’m tempted, believe me. The flat rolls from Coles are a weird texture, they defy description. The Woolies frozen ones remind me of a Staedtler eraser.

Bar Beach Swimmer
October 1, 2021 5:14 pm

The Liberal MP, Jason Falinski on Kenny and speaking about Gladys, saying that people who believe in a ‘free, fair and just society’ has been unravelled by the ICAC. ‘There is no good time for injustice,’ says Falinski.

Is he not aware of how residents of NSW have been living for months and months and how far gone in NSW is the ‘free, fair and just society’?

P
P
October 1, 2021 5:14 pm

TheLastRefuge Retweeted
ValGlass2.0
@AussieVal10
·
3h
FireFireFire they all know in those circles

Looks like Gladys didn’t push the “double jab” hard enough and now the investigation goes on

@CliveFPalmer
told us a few weeks ago
https://twitter.com/AussieVal10/status/1443789192215941122

calli
calli
October 1, 2021 5:15 pm

feelthebern says:
October 1, 2021 at 5:12 pm
God is angry that Gladys resigned.
Repent !

Do we get an earthquake too?

Or do we skip to locusts?

Rabz
October 1, 2021 5:16 pm

Perfect weather for this Tour de Force – an angel on fire … 🙂

Makka
Makka
October 1, 2021 5:17 pm

Anyway, thinking about FNQ and accepting the heat,

Atherton Tablelands behind Cairns is a great spot. Atherton, Malanda, Yungaburra, Tolga. Mareeba is a bit drier.Higher than the coast so humidity extreme isn’t as bad and shorter uncomfortable months. Awesome dry cooler months April through Oct. My preferred spot in FNQ.

TailgunneR
TailgunneR
October 1, 2021 5:18 pm

Wondering when I’ll get shot with a real bullet. Can’t be too far ahead.
Imma gonna need forceps handy at all times. And a spare tshirt, duck tape& antibiotics.
#resist
Yes, I said “duck tape” 😀

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 1, 2021 5:18 pm

The Liberal MP, Jason Falinski on Kenny

Is a butcher.
Almost scuttled Tim Wilson’s industry super work.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
October 1, 2021 5:19 pm

callisays:
October 1, 2021 at 5:09 pm
Well…I cut my own hair the other day. As I did it with the big scissors, I thought about those poor women who were targeted after the war. Horrible stuff.

When mum saw me, she laughed! Hers is driving her crazy too. I did offer…but she declined.

Smart woman.

A lady of your sartorial skills should use pinking shears.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 1, 2021 5:19 pm

Not sure what the most interesting thing about this local news report is: that health workers are publicly protesting against mandatory vaccination, or that someone from the MSM is reporting this.

CENTRAL COAST JOINS NATIONAL PROTEST ACTION (Ncl local tv news, 1 Oct)

150 health people protesting at The Entrance, half way between Sydney and Ncl suggests there’re a lot of very unhappy health wukkas out there. ScoMo’s edict is going to go down like a cow dropped from Centrepoint Tower.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 1, 2021 5:19 pm

Or do we skip to locusts?

Or the dogs?
Or the bees?
Or the dogs with bees in their mouth and when they bark, they shoot bees at you?

Indolent
Indolent
October 1, 2021 5:20 pm

It is voluntary Duncan and no-one is checking so I’m at a loss as to why they would feign signing in.

Chemist Warehouse in Sydney is guarded like Fort Knox. They don’t even accept mask exemptions.

TailgunneR
TailgunneR
October 1, 2021 5:20 pm

I’m not made if stone, areff is probably right.
But usually it’s far too late by then.
I’ve made my position abundantly clear…
In war, sacrifices have to be made.
Away with you, tainted Jezebel!!

Miss Anthropist
Miss Anthropist
October 1, 2021 5:22 pm

I’ve been kicking against the fascists since day one. ( note fascists. Not NAZIs or good little Germans. Fascists. The Germans were not the only fascists. ).
Unfortunately, in all my interactions with the Police they have been friendly and polite. I suspect a plot.

Zipster
Zipster
October 1, 2021 5:22 pm

this theme seems to be widespread
——-
The policy responses to Covid have been awful, but those failures are utterly dwarfed by the energy and supply chain policy inactions that are bringing us into a very dark winter.An energy crisis is roiling across the UK and Europe on the cusp of winter, and the rest of the world is on the horizon. It’s already being felt in the UK, Europe, China, Russia, and the U.S.

In the UK, the media is chalking up the energy crisis to consumer panic buying and truck driver shortages, but this blames everyday citizens for what is actually a much deeper structural problem and bungling executed by government policies. A more accurate explanation acknowledges the origins of the current energy crisis in a predictable outcome of the failure to invest in the production of oil and supply stability during the COVID-19 mismanagement and shutdowns.

While the governing elite will have you believe the crisis is as “transitory” as the inflation they themselves create through central bankers’ monetary policies, it would be foolish to take them at their word. A major economic shock is guaranteed at this point in the story – one that will disproportionately impact the middle and lower classes.

John H.
John H.
October 1, 2021 5:23 pm

sfwsays:
October 1, 2021 at 5:00 pm
Talking to the missus about getting out of Vic, but where to go? I like seasons, worked in PNG for a while and the tropical heat is ok but the novelty wears off after a while. Anyway, thinking about FNQ and accepting the heat, maybe Tassie. I would look overseas but she won’t go that far so Andorra is out. We have enough to live ok and buy a smallish house. So any suggestions? I know Tasmania is a strange place with more than enough lefties and even stranger people but so far it seems to have escaped the totalitarian mindset.

FNQ is you are used to the heat but have a look at SE Qld. Depends on your preference SFW. Brisbane is not a nice city but SE Qld and northern NSW have many pleasant regional centers. Housing prices have skyrocketed though and you may find it difficult to find a place to buy. Some southerners are resorting to temp accommodation until they can score. I know nothing about real estate so cannot tell if the market has peaked but I’d be amazed if the current price surge continues. The hinterland of the Sunshine Coast is pleasant and possibly not as much in demand as coastal areas. Maleny is a hippie hold out but there are smaller towns in the area which are pleasant and close to Nambour, the major regional hub there.

Don’t know about Tassie but some friends moved there a few years ago and love it.

calli
calli
October 1, 2021 5:23 pm

Lol, ranga.

I have those, but they’re quite difficult to use. Lucky guys who just get out the clips and do a number three or four or whatever. Even if they make a mistake, they can pass it off as “edgy”.

Rabz
October 1, 2021 5:24 pm

Hey, Beryl G – nothing changes in my cottage

areff
areff
October 1, 2021 5:25 pm

Amongst the many occupations required to get jabbed in Victoria:

* journalist and media services; or

* feature film, television and documentary (excluding television commercials, student and corporate productions) that is already in physical production and operating as a closed set and post-production relating to it; or

* National Performing Arts Company Dancing studios for the exclusive use of Company Dancers only…..

COVID is well known to hide in ballet slippers, cans of film and keyboards.

All hail Dan, who knows these things.

Rabz
October 1, 2021 5:27 pm
Top Ender
Top Ender
October 1, 2021 5:27 pm

Tasmania, SFW, is full of leftie loonies these days who chant mindlessly about “the environment”… They block development, and expect the feds to bail them out endlessly.

The weather is appalling for about four months of the year: cold and wet, but not enough rain to be useful, just annoying.

Makka is right about the Atherton Tablelands behind Cairns – we’re there on holiday at present.

Northern NSW is said to be excellent weather.

Mrs TE and I plan on avoiding Sydney, Melbourne, and Brisbane forever.

TailgunneR
TailgunneR
October 1, 2021 5:28 pm

I’m not sure who’s worse…
Those so stupid they’re worried about “Covid-22” or those that just want the beatings to STOP and return to 2019?
Im voting the collaborators that think submission equals freedom.
I’ve always loved the Vaxx more than you!
All Traitors.
All get theirs at the end.
The fake Vaxx is the Mark of the Beast.
And once you got it, there’s no backsies!
Choose wisely
St Peter text me about it the other day.
And he said it’s been green lit to start burning everything down.
Announcements from above, apparently.
Whatever that means?

calli
calli
October 1, 2021 5:28 pm

All depends on how much cold/heat you can tolerate when it comes to regional centres. Inland cities are great, but freezing in winter.

I went through all this when looking to move out of Sydney a decade ago. NSW coastal anywhere north of Newcastle is the pick, house prices are rising but still affordable, climate good without excess humidity.

South Coast (where my heart is) is lovely, but infested with entitled Canberra retirees on defined benefits. Erk. A no-go if you want your blood pressure low.

Diogenes
Diogenes
October 1, 2021 5:32 pm

Another vote for the the Sunshine Coast hinterland. Going into an Over50s at Palmwoods

Bar Beach Swimmer
October 1, 2021 5:34 pm

Tintarella di Lunasays:
October 1, 2021 at 4:46 pm

+1
Tint, I wrote to her over the abortion legislation, pointing out that she had not put it before the people before the election. I received a mealy-mouthed response that it wasn’t her that dun it – it was Alex Greenwich! I wrote back that, as the government, she could pull the legislation altogether before it passed the Assembly (iirc it was passed in the Council first with the support of those awful Nats) – no reply.

TailgunneR
TailgunneR
October 1, 2021 5:35 pm

Maximum Leader has decreed that all “authorised workers” (take a moment and understand where we are, please) must be fake Vaxxed by tomorrow or something hasn’t he?
*Insert giggling Putin meme*
Does anyone have intel on his casa?
Asking for a cold&ruthless friend….

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
October 1, 2021 5:36 pm

Amongst the many occupations required to get jabbed in Victoria:

* journalist and media services;
******
This is aimed at Avi and Rukshan.

Rabz
October 1, 2021 5:36 pm
Bar Beach Swimmer
October 1, 2021 5:37 pm

Diogenessays:
October 1, 2021 at 5:32 pm

good luck

Cassie of Sydney
October 1, 2021 5:37 pm

“Bar Beach Swimmersays:
October 1, 2021 at 4:21 pm”

Great comment BBS.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 1, 2021 5:37 pm

Timothy Nielsen at 4:57.
Correct.
I think it was feelthebern who raised this a couple of weeks ago.
And I agree with him (despite him calling me a Nazi*).
Exhibiting your bwavado in front of a stressed out cafe waitress is the act of an arsehole.
Get a placard, break the 10-15 km limit,.take it to your state Premier and cop the fine yourself.
Like Mickey Mouse in the Bendigo cafe, usually the bwavado evaporates when it isn’t a little kid in front of them, or the $5 large might be coming out of their kick.
Feel free in rural Queensssland where business has been largely unaffected. But to do that to a small business owner in Victoria who has had 18 months of it and is hanging on by his fingernails is the act of a complete arsewipe.
.
* Probably fair enough given my name is Panzer.

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 1, 2021 5:37 pm

callisays:
October 1, 2021 at 5:09 pm
Well…I cut my own hair the other day. As I did it with the big scissors, I thought about those poor women who were targeted after the war. Horrible stuff.

It’s easier being a bloke. I ordered clippers with combs (various) on line. THey arrived, got to work in front of the mirror. Used 10mm comb on the back and sides, 16mm over the top. Not perfect, but I have paid for worse.

Next time, 20mm over the top, too much skin showing through the thinning hair!

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 1, 2021 5:38 pm

Gunner, has the doom music kicked in?

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
October 1, 2021 5:38 pm

Stick it out, Calli. You are my heroine.

calli
calli
October 1, 2021 5:38 pm

This is aimed at Avi and Rukshan.

I “liked” that, but a “like” is not enough.

How evil can the Andrews’ government get? And how transparent in intent while being opaque in scrutiny?

TailgunneR
TailgunneR
October 1, 2021 5:39 pm

I’m staying in Yarragrad for now. It’s a target-rich environment.
But imma need a less conspicuous vehicle for night missions.
A 15 y/O hatchback will be perfect.
Coles carpark plates, natch.

Rabz
October 1, 2021 5:40 pm

This is aimed at Avi and Rukshan.

Neither of whom are j’ismists, according to no less an authoritah, than Baul Parry himself.

“Their shameless lack of context”.

A statement that deserves to live on in infamy. (infamee, infamee, they’ve got it for me!)

Makka
Makka
October 1, 2021 5:41 pm

Amongst the many occupations required to get jabbed in Victoria:

Haven’t seen any legislation for this. Is non-compliance illegal punishable by law? Or is this just another addition to the myriad “Health orders” currently being ignored by VikStasi?

Bar Beach Swimmer
October 1, 2021 5:41 pm

sfw,
Newcastle and environs is lovely – not far from home, weather’s good, lots of small/medium towns around the main population centres – lovely beaches (I’d put up a heart emoji if I could), very picturesque areas, wineries – if you drink, you wouldn’t miss Rutherglen etc; and in those smaller places you won’t be near the green-lefties that seem to surround me.

Best wishes it all works out well.
BBS

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
October 1, 2021 5:42 pm

going now, may suggest that ICAC has a fair bit on her.

Most people who jump before they are pushed do so because they are guilty.
All of Gulag Glad’s cries that she has to stand aside while an investigation is underway is simple piffle.
“Certainty for the people of NSW”? A rubbish excuse. “Certainty” could be delivered by a politician who goes on the attack when unjustly accused.

Don’t let the door hit your bum on the way out Gladys.

Rabz
October 1, 2021 5:42 pm

Sancho – anyone challenging the overarching collectivist narrative nowadays is a “nayzee” according to those who exhibit all of the traits of those aforementioned jackboot and preposterous trousers clad imbeciles. 🙁

Winston Smith
October 1, 2021 5:42 pm

Mater:

Almost everyone who’s been able to get out and do their job has been caught in this net.

I wasn’t joking this afternoon when I said I was stocking up so that when I wasn’t allowed to go to the IGA, I would have some supplies to fall back on.
Now they’re coming for the wukkas, when are they coming for the Pensioners?

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 1, 2021 5:43 pm

“Their shameless lack of context”.

What a fucking dinosaur.

rosie
rosie
October 1, 2021 5:44 pm
Bar Beach Swimmer
October 1, 2021 5:44 pm

Makkasays:
October 1, 2021 at 5:41 pm

Makka, at the moment there are a couple of cases in the Supreme Court of NSW on this – mandatory vaccination of workers and also, I think, on the lockdowns – there’s been two days of evidence and a third one to be held on Tuesday. Hopefully, the Decision will be the right one and it will be handed down quickly.

calli
calli
October 1, 2021 5:46 pm

“Their shameless lack of context”.

So…let’s apply some “context” to Paul Barry.

High on the hog on…how much is it? For how many hours’ work? With how many assistants?

And paid for by [drumroll] us.

There’s some context for your comments, you sponging charlatan.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 1, 2021 5:46 pm

Da nayzees, da nayzees.
Dey ebry wahrr.

Rabz
October 1, 2021 5:47 pm

But imma need a less conspicuous vehicle for night missions

Here’s one, Tails. No one will even notice, especially when you’re driving by waving your fist … 🙂

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 1, 2021 5:48 pm

Paul Barry used to be a good journalist.
About a decade ago he became a cuck & appears to enjoy it a little too much.

calli
calli
October 1, 2021 5:50 pm

Bern, he’s old, he’s a has been, and he should be retired.

Aunty has given him a nice stipend to shout at clouds.

A better person would be ashamed.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 1, 2021 5:51 pm

Gunner, this vehicle was made for you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apr1nCmmtxk

TailgunneR
TailgunneR
October 1, 2021 5:52 pm

Fkn Rabz, an your bloody Oldsmobile!
Hehe, maybe for my denouement performance that would be perfect!
But I still have much to do before then.
Project Mayhem is about to begin.
Don’t get scared when things get ….
Kinetic

Joanna
Joanna
October 1, 2021 5:52 pm

Re the Hughes tweet above, Perfidious Dan just announced that every authorized work (list here) has to be single vaxxed by Oct 15 or you’re out of a job.

Looks like i’m out of a job then. I’m self-employed but provide a service in the real estate industry that involves going on-site. Twenty seven years ends in two weeks.
A new opportunity will open up, i’ll be okay.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 1, 2021 5:53 pm

Agree calli.
Paul Barry is another boomer who doesn’t know when to die.

Winston Smith
October 1, 2021 5:54 pm

Rosie:

Personally I’m sorry Gladys is going, she’s the only premier in Australia who was determined to put an end to covidmania.

If she had any guts, our glad would have announced she was putting to the Party Room that the government had lost its mandate and demanding they go to an election.
Then watch the pricks decide if they want to face the electors.

TailgunneR
TailgunneR
October 1, 2021 5:55 pm

My ancestors used to herd their enemies into churches and set fire to them.
Hehe, we didn’t own Balmoral Castle for a few hundred years for being pussies!
Game of Thrones was a playbook for 2021+
Gang Warily
No mercy.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 1, 2021 5:56 pm

If she had any guts, our glad would have announced she was putting to the Party Room that the government had lost its mandate and demanding they go to an election.

Paul Keating would have done.
Gang-star.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 1, 2021 5:56 pm

I’m blasting some Kanye.
The man is an icon.

Rabz
October 1, 2021 5:57 pm

err, just about to have conversation with a formerly highly placed personage within the NSW gliberals.

Grub Stokes, WTF??? 🙁

Rabz
October 1, 2021 5:57 pm

I’m blasting some Kanye.

Yo! 🙂

TailgunneR
TailgunneR
October 1, 2021 5:59 pm

A new opportunity will open up, i’ll be okay.
Resistance is your new job. Buy beans&balaclavas.
#NoThrillsForTheCautious
Find a target.
Make a plan.
Burn it all down.
#ProjectMayhem

Winston Smith
October 1, 2021 6:00 pm

Mother Lode:

I do hope that the government pollies have woken up to the unpopularity of the covid measures and pending passports etc.

I think what they’re waking up to is the latest growth figures and the realisation that their monomania about the ‘flu has blinded them to the damage they’re doing to the economy.
My bet is that nearly all the supply issues and other damage has been done by the political/managerial classes and the brightest have seen the bill being made up to their accounts.

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