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Cats, what a magnificent day it was in Sydneystan, registered the car in the morning, stocked up on food and…
Not much time to do a Julia bait and switch. Will Albo leave as quietly as Julia?
Meant for Billie.
Beattie resigned when he knew the game was up, his giggling apologies weren’t being bought by the public anymore and…
Except the holdouts aren’t curtailing anyone’s rights, just pointing out that they are now part of the problem if they go along with it.
I wouldn’t mistake pointing out the obvious, with wanting to curtail rights.
Posted too soon:
having said all the above, I firmly believe in freedom of choice.
It is not my business to know of , or inquire of, anyone’s medical status.
“I don’t want to curtail anyone’s rights. I just don’t want mine curtailed.”
Liberty quote.
There’s always one step more, one jab more, one test more to re-prove how many “person” “rights” you qualify for.
It doesn’t end.
That’s what the early warner’s were warning of and why they called for mass non-compliance.
As to the divisions; some came straight out with Pro-Jab propaganda, relentlessly pushing it to this day and relentlessly mocking those who came out with the other side of the story.
The good will was plainly, visibly not with them.
The good will was with those who kept warning of all the problems with the Covid Cult, despite being treated like trash for caring to do so.
This story may have something to do with it.
Posturing rife as Libs speculate on Berejiklian’s future (Daily Tele, today, paywalled)
I dunno what the story says, but I suspect there’re a few very bad internal poll numbers floating around right now. Smells like the punters are fed up.
The amount of NAD/NMN/vitamins C, D, zinc, elderberry etc I take, nothing is getting though.
Since I had the worst flu ever in Dec 2019, I haven’t been sick in almost 2 years.
PS I don’t count food poisoning or migraines as being sick.
Are they ‘part of the problem’ or just have a different, and equally valid point of view about the ‘experimental gene therapy’ and the danger of covid?
Apparently people just can’t think covid is a potentially serious illness, that vaccination ameliorates their risk while also despising government overreach.
Something about babies and bathwater.
Again, I can’t agree because the ‘nasty’ started & continues with the Pro-Jab pushers, while those who’ve warned of the the rest of the freedoms even the jabbed have & will lose, have done so because they care about those freedoms, especially for those too small, weak & voiceless to fight for those rights themselves.
True. I think in your outline of why people vaxx you miss the obvious – they hope to get protection. Even for international travel, I’m vaxxed because I think I need the protection that it offers me from dying of Covid at my age during my travels as well as here at home. Hairy similar, even though ten years younger. That’s the real return. It’s a risk management issue.
I’ll take boosters if necessary. I already get a ‘flu booster each year.
People make their own decisions and I respect that. Non-vaxxers reasons are varied too.
All quiet on the Delta front as celeb ‘experts’ go MIA
Jame Morrow
If there is one bright spot to the current Delta outbreaks in Queensland and Victoria, it is that we are no longer taking advice from celebrities who think they are epidemiologists – or epidemiologists who think they are celebrities.
The Project’s Lisa Wilkinson is not the only prominent would-be unofficial chief health officer to suddenly lose her voice on Covid.
Remember that time she chided NSW, saying: “Victoria keeps proving every time that the minute you get an outbreak there you stamp on it & you get back to normal life”?
Or the time she called on Gladys Berejiklian to step down, saying: “She’s doing nothing, the soft lockdown continues, and we’re all scratching our heads trying to work out if she’s not going to do anything more — why is she continuing with this same rhetoric?”
Wilkinson has been silent now that Victoria is posting 50 per cent more cases per day than NSW – and that Queensland’s Labor government is desperate to keep cases low before Sunday’s Grand Final.
Another celebrity critic Melburnian Magda Szubanski tweeted that NSW was playing “Russian roulette with a mutating virus”.
Szubanski, who starred in a Victorian government lockdown ad, has said little since Delta arrived in her hometown.
ABC presenter Julia Zemiro crowed after Melbourne emerged from lockdown 5.0 that Victoria gave “Hope for us in NSW to look to,” while author Kerri Sackville begged on Twitter for Dan Andrews to come take over in Macquarie Street, saying, “we need you.”
And of course the ABC’s favourite paediatrician turned presenter Norman Swan was out there at the start of Sydney’s current Delta outbreak saying, “What is the NSW Govt waiting for?? Every day they wait adds up to seven on the lockdown. Need greater Sydney locked down now. Go in early and hard. That’s the rule they’ve broken.”
Well, yes, that worked so well in Victoria. Yet oddly, with Queensland now on the boil Swan and Co are a lot more circumspect in demanding that Annastacia Palaszczuk drop the hammer – at least until the Grand Final wraps up.
If that’s true, then your only option is the treatments used in India to crush the China Virus. The Jabs do nothing.
Public Health Amendment (Vaccination Compensation) Bill 2021
Not a single person here has pushed anyone else here to get vaccinated.
People here present information from both pro and anti sources, depending on their views.
Freedom of speech being one freedom that most of us value (not you srr)
(Not feeling one iota responsible for what friends, families, media governments say or do.)
It’s time for James Bond to die
By Melanie McDonagh – The Spectator
I saw the new James Bond last night, but after reading today’s reviews I’m not sure I watched the same film as the critics. Perhaps the glitz of the Royal Albert Hall and proximity to the stars make reviewers better disposed towards a film. Those of us watching in the Odeon, Leicester Square, eating Joe and Seph’s 007 Dry Martini popcorn (transmuted into caramel coating with five per cent vodka) were perhaps less carried away.
The Bond of No Time to Die is, you’ll have gathered, terrifically in touch with his emotions. He’s got a vulnerable side; he’s angry and wounded; he’s empathetically good with a little girl (he feeds her apple slices); he’s respectful of his fellow (sometime replacement) 00, Nomi, played by Lashana Lynch; he’s manly enough not to mind getting wistful about the little girl’s knitted rabbit; he’s monogamous, not promiscuous.
Trouble is, he’s not much like Bond, books or films. The original Bond character – as imagined by Ian Fleming and played by Sean Connery – seems to have been killed off, replaced by a very different character. One without a sense of humour, for a start.
No Time To Die is short on gags – Q (played by the excellent Ben Whishaw) apart – though there are a few gags (‘mindblowing!’ about a clever watch), presumably provided by Phoebe Waller Bridge, and the adorable novice sidekick in itsy evening dress who turns out to be invulnerable and deadly is quite funny.
The overall effect is downbeat, depressed, dispiriting and that’s even before the finale. Bond does put on evening dress for a birthday treat for Spectre in Cuba, but most of the time he’s unshaven, unkempt in a rugged way, ageing, confused about his allegiances and never omniscient about arcane aspects of the job, because omniscience is old masculinity. You part company with Bond in most of the films with a smile; at the end of NTTD, you’re as depressed as he is. Even the theme tune doesn’t go anywhere.
It’s always interesting to see who the villains are in Bond. In the Cold War original, obviously, you got the Russians and SMERSH; later Fleming posited instead Spectre, an organisation detested by both powers, a non-state actor, private enterprise for private profit – deplorable but comprehensible.
But Lyutsifer (Lucifer?) Safin here (Rami Malek), who you know is a villain on account of his bad complexion (give it time before people with pockmarks start to complain), is driven by motives of personal revenge, so just a non-ideological nutter. There are some obviously problematic global players out there right now – can anyone possibly think why Barbara Broccoli might not care to identify China as a threat? – but this Bond is out to save the world from a danger who is oddly atemporal. I’m not entirely sure how Safin manages to make a Dr No style fortune, but I may have missed it.
Compare and contrast with the first time we meet James Bond in Casino Royale. In repose, his features are a taciturn mask, ‘Ironical, brutal and cruel’. He’s enormously finicky about his car (his only personal hobby), he takes ‘a ridiculous pleasure in what I eat and drink…very pernickety and old maidish’ – and to an extent, his dress and certainly his gambling. (Craig couldn’t care less about his food and drink.)
He’s no feminist – he sees ‘luck as a woman, to be softly wooed or brutally ravaged, never pandered to or pursued’. He’s bored with most women and the predictable pattern of affairs, but he can fall in love with someone who’s intriguing and intelligent. He is a man of the world, the world being of its time.
Same again with the best of the films. Bond can commit – with George Lazenby’s On Her Majesty’s Secret Service he actually gets married and is heartbroken when you know what happens – and he mourns, eventually, the treacherous Vesper Lynd, but he never really lets himself go; he’s not one for emoting. He’s never afraid to show off his expertise; it’s one-upmanship in everything from haikus to voodoo. Savoir faire is his thing. And in the best of the films, he is funny – the Sean Connery gags, the Roger Moore raised eyebrow. Ian Fleming thought Connery was common; he’d have been just baffled by Craig.
Obviously there are many good things in No Time To Die, not least the references to other Bond films. Daniel Craig enters into the convoluted plot and the preposterous showdown with gusto. There’s a nice car chase, barging right through a very retro procession with a statue of the Virgin Mary, in the old style. There’s a very creepy opening episode featuring a man in a mask. There’s fabulous cinematography and dizzying scene changes.
But the upshot – Bond for the 21st century – is not a mutation of the original bond. It’s a new actor, a new character and one that (I’m afraid to say) is far less interesting to watch.
“Again, I can’t agree “
Nobody cares what you think Nongbat.
You know what’s “offensive?”
This.
That is the reality of what you are engaging and endorsing by accepting a ‘passport’ based social order. No matter what lies you tell yourself, if you accept it you are part of that system and you have personally empowered it.
Without your consent it cannot exist.
Lefties are always calling on their favourite dictators to come and take over their countries. Remember the slobbering entreaties by our progressive luminaries to Chavez to come and wreak his particular brand of leadership upon us?
Seems to apply to states as well as countries.
“Not a single person here has pushed anyone else here to get vaccinated.”
Correct.
The only people worse than politicians & the health nazis are the corporate media who selectively amplify the messaging from the politicians & the health nazis.
The Palacechook reveals new conditions on Queensland rejoining Australia.
• 80% vaccination, everywhere.
Plus
• An unspecified Commonwealth commitment to massively increase funding for Queensland hospitals to cope with the inevitable explosion in Covid numbers that will follow allowing poxed-up Australians into Queensland.
Could be thousands of cases. Many, many thousands. Will nobody think of the nurses.
(Off the electric wireless. No link.)
Totally agree with what you say at 9.49 Diogenes, but my point which you came in on was about ScoMo and snuggling up to the UN and Net Zero 50, so turning the discussion to ScoMo on the riots just did not follow on with anything to do with ScoMo and the UN. I was merely pointing out an inconsistency in the flow of the discussion. On a blog, I guess it hardly matters. 🙂
Who is ‘you’ engaging with and endorsing a social passport?
Lizzie indicated she might, to get a haircut.
No-one else has said they would.
“Dr Faustussays:
October 1, 2021 at 10:53 am
The Palacechook reveals new conditions on Queensland rejoining Australia.”
So I ask what is the point of having a Prime Minister and a federal government? All of this mess have been enabled to Scumbag Morrison.
Just finished an online dance class. They are great for a good morning start. But they do interrupt reading the Cat. I think of this place now as very much the inheritor of Sinc’s approach to debate and discussion.
Well, you guys haven’t seen my hair lately.
If you browbeat me nicely I will wait until there is once more fierce competition amongst hairdressers for my business, no vaxx questions asked. That day will come, but not before December 1. And I will by then have the long flowing locks of yore. Maybe I will do what the TV presenters all do, and get some hair swatches to attach at the back. You Tomcats don’t think that’s all their own hair, do you??
Rebel News in Victoria Hold Police Accountable, and The Police Do Not Like It
Trying to keep the cameras away.
This is a good thing. But I am still not wishing the Liberals their own victory – they would always be one petty tyrant and gaggle of yes-
menpersons from doing this all again. And the likes of Photios at the tiller, steering the party which ever way he wants rather than party members and the people.If they had adopted Abbott’s Warringah motion and freed the party from its power players they likely would not be in this mess now.
There have been some Libs who have stood out and stood up in this foetid putrescence, like Craig Kelly and now that Tanya Davies, but my goodness, so few.
Conflating vaccination status with agreement to vaccine passports is just wrong.
I agree that patronage of All Welcome facilities is an important step to delegitimating such passports. Total non-compliance is something that Riccardo and others may hope for, but which will not be forthcoming from most people, who just want to get on with their lives. Luckily, the passports are an unwieldy intrusion and they will soon enough destroy themselves. Most people will not want to bother with them once Covid is also a part of life here. Overreach by the police will only assist the case against passports, just as it has assisted the case agaisnt lockdowns.
Britain and other countries have an indemnity system for those rare vaccine deaths
Lizzie, ‘rare’?
They tell us adverse side effects are ‘one in a million’. Okay, well consider this:
There are probably about 8000 journos in Australia. Of these, two of which I am aware have ended up in hospital with swollen hearts — a reporterette from the Daily Tele and a TV talker for Seven in Brisbane. Lord only knows the adverse effects we haven’t heard about.
Two out of 8000 vs. the propaganda line of one in a million.
Who you gunna believe?
Riddle me this. The jabs reduce, but don’t stop the ability to transmit the virus. Once we get to 80% jabbed there are 4 times as many jabbed as unjabbed. Am I more likely to get the virus from the high number of low transmitters or from the low number of high transmitters? Asking for a friend who may or may not be double jabbed.
Mark McGowan accuses eastern states of failing to appreciate China at WA event
And that Australia failed to realise the importance of the People’s Republic of Wa:
Failed Nation.
Also fat crotchety old boomers getting ‘offended’ by people throwing shade on them while scenes like the above unfold all over the world. As they once again descend like a plague on Coffee Club – flash new government licence to be in public in hand, being served by black masked coerced-into-vaccination for their benefit young girls, simultaneously scenes of mums being arrested for ‘trespassing’ at children’s events for not showing their licence to be in public flow.
Do you really expect us not to say anything about this grotesque situation?
From P above:
Public Health Amendment (Vaccination Compensation) Bill 2021
Is that for real? An employer is liable for injury or harm suffered by an employee through enforced vaccination? And that includes for the rest of their lives if that is the natured of the injury?
Wow.
..
If you’re cheerfully using vaxx passports to enjoy our new apatheid system, without actively protesting about it, I think that’s tacit approval (by definition).
If you are on talkback, writing to your now useless local member and commenting here vogorously protesting a system that no doubt WILL eventually bite you too on the arse, I really don’t begrudge you the odd haircut of visit to the shops.
I’m not about ideological purity.
areff, haven’t a couple/few journos in the UK died post-vaccine?
Here’s what you can do to help:
Don’t completely deprive yourself of the shops.
But every time you go comment loudly that you don’t think they should be discriminating on medical grounds, and if they continue to do so YOU will look for alternatives.
AND, I must say, this entire discussion is falling disturbingly into their plans to divide us.
Don’t let them do that.
rosie says:
October 1, 2021 at 8:32 am
I don’t accept the slippery slope argument.
rosie says:
October 1, 2021 at 8:59 am
dan threatening longer lockdowns for naughty Melbournians
Vaccines or in this case the jab, are not cures.
What we ask from our doctors and medicine in general are cures.
Vaccines/jabs (if they work) are at best prevention.
Prevention abrogates personal rights. Prevention invokes the cost whether you get the disease or not. Cure is only relevant when you have the disease, and then the cost can be born.
Get our medicine back to the right path of cure and relinquish the delusion of prevention.
“AND, I must say, this entire discussion is falling disturbingly into their plans to divide us.
Don’t let them do that.”
Yes it is.
dover, sorry, don’t know about theUK
Sometimes ideology does divide us. And, like it or not, life throws some very hairy (chuckle) problems our way. We have to make choices and then live by them.
Naturally, you can always go down the consensus route and believe nothing strongly.
Or…you can thrash out an argument vigorously. Just don’t pee on the carpet and break the Spode. Ta.
Areff, it’s deaths that are one (or less) in a million. That’s the indicator of the greatest concern. There are other side-effects, some ideosyncratic, others more generalised; some long-term debilitating, others only short-term and recoverable.
I’ve said here I don’t like the mRNA vaxxes (Pfizer, Moderna) overmuch, because there is a much more than one in a million chance of getting heart complications from it, and this is especially so with younger males in particular. True that the AZ vaxx also has much more than one in a million chances of their main complication – blood clots – but give me a vein rather than a heart any day for messing around with. For both vaxxes, the less rare complications are said to be mild, and treatable. Obviously, I’d prefer a more traditional style of vaxx, which is why I prefer the vector model of the AZ to the mRNA. Both push the development of spike proteins, but this seems to be something all the oncoming vaxxes will do too. I’d like to know more about the Russian and Chinese vaxx approaches.
I’m no expert in the vaxx field, but I can pick scientific holes in some of the anti-vaxx so-called ‘statistical’ material, and can still see the value in a vaxxed population re the nasty piece of vascular disease (not a ‘flu) that is Covid. I agree that there is probably a lot of understated rather mild morbidity due to the vaxxes, but do caution that a lot of the side-effects reportage is statistically not unusual and not due to the vaxx but to other causes. I’m hoping for better vaxxes for my booster/s. For most people, catching the disease will provide a good immunity too, if it doesn’t kill you (which it won’t if you possess a young and healthy immune system). Make your own decisions has always been my position on it all.
I guess if one goes to the cafe every day never qr coding, signing or masking there’s a chance you might not show a passport when and if they they are introduced.
Fluffer
Cheap basketball shoes and replacement kidneys. What’s not to like?
A young UK journalist died after getting astrazeneca shot before they stopped using them for under 60s.
Lisa Shaw?
But India has shown that your premise is false. That there is a cure, the protocols used in India, and that jabs are not effective but the protocol is effective. Statistics is irrelevant. This is not a ‘study’. This is a real world fact as a result of the Indian decision to try another approach to the China Virus.
There is NO value in a vaxxed population when a cure is available.
russia stole mRNA tech. China is deactivated virus, ie trad
Also from the UK
remembering journalism industry colleagues who died of covid
Must watch: Tucker Carlson Tonight – Australia’s descent into Chinese Communist Party-style authoritarianism and the end of democratic freedoms Down Under.
A revealing outsider’s look at Australia from an angle that no-one in Australia has – especially sensitive to the open borders-closed border issues because of the Third World invasion the Biden regime has triggered at the southern US border.
Thanks, Arky. But now I’m considering longer hair. Women are like that. Changeable. 🙂
But a visit to the shops? Ohhh, I do need some new shoes. Some nice new shoooes.
This is why forcing people to have their, “Proof of Complying with Dictatorial Govt Mandates”, in order to be allowed to participate in society, is simply evil.
The number of those already happy & proud to be unpaid, voluntary Stasi, demanding Proof of Fealty to The Dictators from family, friends & strangers, is terrifying, as was intended.
Another thing from 3AW Drive yesterday, Elliott claimed that ‘anti-vaxxers’ were holding the state hostage. Firstly, stop conflating people deciding (i) not to take a vaccine that has not passed the normal, thorough testing regime; and/or (ii) deciding that their individual circumstance (age cohort,
absent relevant comorbidities, fitness, etc.) makes the vaccine moot, and/or (iii) has religious objections to some of the vaccines because of how they have been derived, with an ‘anti-vaxxer’. Secondly, people abstaining from a medical procedure are not holding anyone to ransom, they themselves are being held to ransom by the government that has instituted the demands themselves; namely, Perfidious Dan, GladBags, Pallachook, and so on.
All but a couple testimonials to people who had other health issues that got tipped over the edge by covid.
What a twot Elliott has turned out to be.
I wouldn’t piss on Howard if he was removed on fire
I have a cunning plan for making vaxx passports hated beyond belief.
I will revert to using my phone to show it if I am forced to, at some govt dept for instance. It takes me nearly ten minutes to get it up on my phone, and the long line of people behind me will become very cross, especially if everyone does that. It’s bad enough with me and the check-in App; I can become all of a fluster over it, and people behind me start tapping their toes as I am loudly declaiming the stupidity of it all. At the pub for Cat Drinkies the guy at the entrance doing the monitoring usually takes my phone in sheer exasperation and does it for me.
I can see that older Australians have a very significant role to play here. 😉
I wouldn’t piss on Howard if he was on fire
Well said, Dover.
My rough back of the envelop calcs is the spike protein death toll expressed in orders of magnitude is very roughly 1 in 1000 for covid vs about 1 in 100,000 for the vax.
you get a much greater dose of S1 from wild virus than vax, you also get much better immunity for much longer.
they are also pushing the line that you get super immunity from virus+vacc, again reaffirming the line that it’s all about S1, which is in common to sars, mers and the other 100+ coronaviruses wuhan is playing with.
Interesting what’s happening in Canada.
Another resource-rich, sparsely populated democracy with a largely docile population. Whose police force appears to have gone full totalitarian.
Talk about forked tongued –
“rosie says:
October 1, 2021 at 9:12 am
In a big city like Sydney and after months of lockdown only the zealots are going to enforce vaccine passports and those refusing to show one are going to find an alternative business, most of time.
Family member in regional Victoria told me popular local eatery has voluntarily made itself vaxxed only, sadly for them there are plenty of other venues in town and they are now losing some regular customers permanently. I’ll never go there again either.
call the police”
___________________
“There are fines of $1000 every time you do the wrong thing. Businesses, there are fines from $5000 all the way up to $11,000 and closure for a period of time if businesses flagrantly disregard Covid safety plans, and that might mean not even displaying a QR code or not having done the basics.”
On one occasion, a man and woman were taken into custody after asking people to not wear masks inside their Bowral health foods store.
https://www.news.com.au/finance/business/retail/call-the-police-advice-for-shop-owners-dealing-with-antivaxxers/news-story/835bd8c463eb6bb761fff666681c0cc7
🙂 … careful, we’ve all been told it’s very racist to acknowledge that Old Families keep track of each other 😉 –
Zulu Kilo Two Alphasays:
October 1, 2021 at 9:18 am
Russia to host first royal wedding in more than a century
Only if you disagree with me.
Don’t argue and we will get along swimmingly.
Thanks, Zipster. I knew the Chinese one was trad, and only 20-30% effective, but traditional in being deactivated virus parts, but I thought the Russian one was also trad. So they stole mRNA? That explains its effectiveness.
Surprising that the Chinese didn’t pinch mRNA, as they steal every other sort of IP technology.
“The senior managers of NGOs and not for profits seem to do very well financially, while often relying on volunteer or poorly paid workers.
I volunteered with FOODBANK NSW for several years ( saved looking for work when laid off in my early 60s as CENTRELINK classed it as an work exemption) .. Not sure how they operate now but back the all the stuff (98% food) was donated by retail/commercial food companies .. Foodbank did not deal with individuals and often turned individuals/families away but on-sold at retail cut price (usually around 30% of normal) to charity/church organizations who did whatever they do with distribution ..
At the time I was there there were 7 paid staff (3 warehouse, 4 office) all those wages were subsidised thru gummint grants, no idea how that works, other than FB was only paying around $100 a week of an employee wage .. usually there would also be up to 30 volunteers, all from various CentreLink work-for-the-dole schemes ..
Foodbank was the only business on a road of 19 companies that owned, outright, its factory and land package, it also had 7 company cars and 2 trucks .. all paid for thru profits from on-selling donations ………
Yep, being a non profit organization can be very profitable .. for some!
What do they know that we don’t might be one way of answering it.
A very irate and impatient lady professor of epidemiology interviewed this morning on ABC radio, Melbourne.
Her ire was directed at the misinformed.
The interviewer raised the examples of Israel and Singapore facing new waves of infection despite very high rates of vaccination.
Yes, she said, but it will be milder and won’t overwhelm the hospitals. That is why we need to meet our benchmarks. Our hospitals won’t cope if we don’t.
If reinfection is such a non-issue in Israel why are they requiring boosters 3 & 4 ? It’s only mild, after all. She wouldn’t lie or exaggerate would she ?
Man, was she steaming over the resisters and hesitaters.
It is interesting.
To have reached 80% vaccination (supposedly) puts us in a situation where through sheer numbers and the touted efficacy of vaccines the threat from the unvaccinated is minimal – as you say the risk of the unvaccinated infecting anyone is piffling compared to the risk where there is an overwhelming majority of vaccinated people who can also infect you.
So, in principle, reaching the 80% mark ought to be the end of it.
But it isn’t. Even though they pose almost no additional risk the government is fanning the flames, painting those who are not vaccinated as disreputable leeches who must be penalised. It is not enough that they consider the vaccinated to be virtuous, they must make the unvaccinated evil and deserving punishment.
Even thought it makes no real difference they will still push that remaining 20% of the population because…
It is not about risk. It is some perverted morality.
Well I think it is because they see the 20% as not having surrendered when the 80% have. We have thwarted what the government has determined must be done. This time 80% complied. Next time it might be only 70%.
Classic Stockholm Syndrome.
Excuse the perpetrator, blame the victim.
The State is holding the people hostage. They are blackmailing and coercing people to obey them. Some are refusing to obey. Therefore the State directs blame towards those who resist.
They pose the biggest risk to the State. The compliant do not.
Is Mitchell really that stupid?
Actually, Glenn Greenwald had it right the other day. ‘Anti-vaxxer’ has joined ‘right-wing extremist’, ‘white supremacist’, ‘homophobe’, ‘transphobe’, ‘racist’, and the like as just one of those words ‘the Cathedral’ uses in the attempt to disarm its critics rather than address their arguments.
It was Tom Elliott here, Calli, but Neil Mitchell certainly is.
Gladys gone?
Watch the TV for an announcement by Glad at 1.00pm.
And just like that it was no longer cool to be pro-choice.
No Fault COVID-19 Indemnity Scheme
28 August 2021
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INFO
NSW MLC Rev. Fred Nile says whilst he welcomes the federal government Saturday 28 August announcement of a COVID-19 indemnity scheme for employers if workers suffer adverse impacts from vaccination, it is a copy of his NSW Bill to achieve the same result and he will press on with his bill at the state level
Whoops.
They all sound alike, Dover. 😀
We have crossed a rubicon, where governments are no longer exist to serve the people but people have to serve the government.
The conditioning is there, I was speaking to someone on the phone about a work matter and they said they were looking forward to the ‘new normal’. I replied firmly “I don’t want a ‘new normal’, I want the old normal back.”
I’ve already predicted that once we open up and vaccinated people still die from covid the unvaccinated will be called murderers. It seems we’re edging towards it.
And just like that the hospital system suddenly became totally overloaded.
Prime Minister Scott Morrison to flag a nationwide vaccine mandate for health care workers at National Cabinet (1 Oct)
Between 10 and 20% of nurses will resign rather than be forced into vaccination. That seems the overseas experience. And when they leave the hospitals will have to close wards and theatres.
Nice work ScoMo, producing an unnecessary health crisis just before a Federal election.
“Psays:
October 1, 2021 at 12:21 pm
Gladys gone?
Watch the TV for an announcement by Glad at 1.00pm.”
She’s being investigated by ICAC…an organisation conveniently MIA during the Carr/Iemma/Rees/Skank Keneally years.
or when did they know it
Yes, ScoMo is the baddie or he would have spoken out against VicPol excesses yet not a word. He could have said something like this is unaustralian even if he didn’t threaten Dan with loss of funding.
? what. States are responsible for healthcare. Why on earth are the Feds stepping in?
Ironic isn’t it?
NSW has a Premier who is being investigated for corruption. The same Premier who has seen fit to lock up the population, demonise non-compliant citizens and threaten businesses who don’t toe the line.
Just who is the criminal here? Exactly who should be locked up?
This is another lie –
“rosie says:
October 1, 2021 at 9:40 am
good to see vic dhhs get some stick on twitter
https://mobile.twitter.com/VicGovDH/status/1443717369071763461”
Intended to gee-up more fear in those who were over it, went to the link to be buoyed by seeing more like minded people and only got more, “It must be worse then EVA!”, propaganda.
No, it wasn’t a joke or sarcasm, just like her link to, “Call The Police”, on businesses that don’t demand to see your Passport; doesn’t matter what she says she posts it for, she knows she is arming Karens & scaring people into complying.
Re the Hughes tweet above, Perfidious Dan just announced that every authorized work (list here) has to be single vaxxed by Oct 15 or you’re out of a job.
This, apparently, is Australia, and the trade union movement is no where to be seen.
KD @ 7:16am quoted Turnbull on the Port of Darwin lease to the Chinese:
“We’ve got to be very careful to be seen as a trusted, reliable partner…
No self-awareness. This is a person who, from the first moment that the new Coalition Government gained power in 2013, schemed to take over the leadership and despite being a member of the Cabinet.
No credibility, no reliability, and nowhere near a trusted partner for anything.
You are not alone. I think the majority of (sane) people agree.
I went into a meeting last night to discuss how we’re going to handle community sport opening up to the ‘fully vaccinated’ only. I was primed to fight against any demand for members’ vax status by the club.
To my surprise, everyone in the (exec) meeting was completely aligned. We do not want to exclude members based on their personal medical decisions. It is up to the individual and none of our business.
Anecdotally, c.20% of nurses have been told to exhaust their holiday entitlements and then take indefinite leave without pay in QLD, Bruce.
Vaccinated nurses are being asked to take up the slack with extra shifts, but for how long is that sustainable? If the predicted spike in hospital admissions occurs post-“freedom day” it could be the perfect storm.
MAny are leaving the trade unions in droves.
As for Andrews’ little tyrannical ”mandates”, they are not enshrined in law, regardless of the fake ”SoE”.
An FOI request on Vic’s paid influencers may shine light on this mystery.
This one certainly doesn’t make sense. If ScoMo were only concerned about virus carriers arriving from overseas then closed borders to incoming makes sense. Preventing people from leaving particularly when infection rates here are far lower than anywhere in the world doesn’t make sense. Who was that supposed to be protecting.
I resent being considered as too stupid to realise when some actions are illogical.
If Gladys resigns at 1.00 p.m. she will be ICAC’s third Liberal premier…Greiner, O’Farrell and Glad……yet they sat and did nothing during the sixteen years of in your face Labor corruption.
The Liberals, since 2011, have had every opportunity to rein in the Stasi chamber that is ICAC…yet they’ve done nothing. You reap what you sow.
This, apparently, is Australia, and the trade union movement is no where to be seen.
Dover, Roger picked up on this upthread as well. But if you haven’t seen it, George Christensen’s zoom meeting with the head of a new(ish) union from QLD – Red Union – from the other day (the call starts off with Tony Nicolic). The Union Head referred to the many (mostly) public sector workers from Vic and NSW who are moving to join the Red Union because the main unions are not providing any representation of their members on these matters.
Yep. All ‘authorised’ workers.
Statement here.
List of ‘authorised workers’ here.
Almost everyone who’s been able to get out and do their job has been caught in this net.
What an effing joke. There is no ignominy that would make Perfidious Dan resign.
Yep, the walls are closing in on me. Going in to work under Authorised Worker Permit for the past 18 months has been a saviour.
Looks like the growing rumbles of rebellion I had hoped for are not going to eventuate.
Cassie, at this point, if ICAC is the only way for the residents of this state to rid themselves of Gladys, then I’m happy that the SFLs did nothing about the thing. (Thus giving voice to the proverb: It’s an ill wind that blows nobody any good)
Yet another example of Cassie from Sydney simply making shit up because it’s only the shit she makes up that “excuses” her vile behaviour towards who she hates –
Also, Cassie & Co know I don’t call on others to back me up, so they believe they get away with their BS.
However, I don’t have to call on honest people to confirm what working people have gone through from the start.
It’s good enough that readers get to see which very intelligent people suddenly become idiots in order to back up their fellow BS propagandists.
Gladys to announce her resignation at 1pm.
Yes, yes.
Well, this will be interesting. If Perottet becomes Premier we will see who really runs things as he has been vocal in his opposition to internal passports and if he changes his tune we will know who really has the power, the bureaucrats and Photios.
“Yet another example of Cassie from Sydney simply making shit up because it’s only the shit she makes up that “excuses” her vile behaviour towards who she hates –”
Oh….diddums…here goes Nongbat again…playing the cretinous victim. No, I don’t make “shit up”…but you do, don’t you? What was that you wrote about John Donaldson at his daughter’s wedding? Ah yes, you said he was “pissed’. You’re quite the vulgarian aren’t you?
You’re a cretin Nongbat and no I don’t hate you, I laugh at you.
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Don’t just resign.
Kill yourself.
Morrison just announced that the Government (TGA?/atagi?) has given authorisation for the Chinese vaccines to be acceptable in this country to allow in Chinese students – what does this say of these people!
China in Focus – NTD
00:00 Intro
00:46 Linkedin blocks U.S. reporters’ profiles in China
03:00 U.S. sends another student back to China
04:37 China won’t answer Australia’s phone calls
05:27 11 countries stand with Taiwan
06:28 ‘Fooling ourselves’: expert on US-China trade
12:37 China faces power shortage as winter nears
14:02 China’s cement prices are soaring
15:14 Evergrande seems to miss 2nd dollar bond pymt
16:46 China: hidden local gov’t debt is half of GDP
18:18 China-to-U.S. cargo ship rates skyrocket
19:18 China’s military tech touted at biggest air show
As bad as Rudd is, he doesn’t dump on Labor the way Turdbull dumps on the Liberals.
Which is why turdball is Australia’s worst PM. Little johnnie is in the race for second for not getting rid of the prick when he could.
Shirley, if GLADYS quits because her embezzling ways have caught up with her all the rubbish rules she brought in without going thru Parliament are illegal and need to be scrapped .. after all, they are the proceeds of crime .. LOL!
And now the leadership circus is supposed to distract us from our incarceration.
Which idiot is in the wings to put on the jackboots?
Bring on the old Redfield boy, Dom.
Never have, never will.
Remember when the world’s official Jab pushers admitted that their death numbers were inflated by an extra zero on the end, and then just merrily went on with giving people other different ‘numbers’ to terrify them.
Like rosie obediently did, terrifying people with BS ‘numbers’ to ‘prove’ that cheap, easy, available treatments were some cruel hoax people shouldn’t even contemplate at all, Jabbed or not.
Korea4Me
4 years ago
I feel like shouting this at the top of my lungs while I am living here in China.
The Prisoner – I am not a Number.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0LaT6qVRpg
Not being in NSW I don’t know much about Perrotet, but stepping in for a premier sidelined by a corruption inquiry isn’t much of a mandate. He’s going to need courage to take on the forces of darkness.
“Psays:
October 1, 2021 at 1:04 pm
Bring on the old Redfield boy, Dom.”
I would like that….but we’ll see.
Of course he does. The CCP is an upstanding organisation and we can trust them.
Chinese students can come but we are not allowed to leave. In what alternate universe are we this week?
Gladys going means nothing if that POS kean doesn’t go with her.
“Like rosie obediently did, terrifying people with BS ‘numbers’ to ‘prove’ that cheap, easy, available treatments were some cruel hoax people shouldn’t even contemplate at all, Jabbed or not.”
Lies from someone who above accuses others of “making shit up”.
“cohenitesays:
October 1, 2021 at 1:07 pm
Gladys going means nothing if that POS kean doesn’t go with her.”
Correct…the rot runs deep in the NSW Liberal party.
Breaking news, from the Australian
Morrison desperately trying to corner the Premiers:
Poor, weak bastard. Must be like pissing on an electric fence.
If Gladys had been responsible for 800 nursing home deaths, she would have been fine.
Meanwhile the truly malignant, malicious and evil Daniel Andrews remains premier.
There’s no justice in this world.
Except, at rosie pointed out in her Call The Police link (that mocking contradicted the empty words she posted before it), the Govt have made it the business of businesses to now be their Stasi or be put out of business.
The Australian public service Deep State claims another victim. Whatever it takes to get Labor elected in Canberra and every state capital.
I’ve been taking C,D, and zinc though not on a regular basis. D I only take in winter and prefer sunlight exposure because that has benefits beyond D. The other issue I focus on is gut health. A healthy gut is a healthy immune system. In the last 20 years the only time I got the flu was when I had the vax! Vit C. is tricky, anything beyond 200mg at once will get washed out so best to spread throughout the day. I don’t take that much zinc because it is readily available in food and heavy metals tend to accumulate in aging bodies so I’m wary of supplements. In relation to dementia the heavy metal issue is difficult to tease apart. Findings of high loading are consistent but I still don’t know if the heavy metal contributes or is a consequence, although it is also obvious that high heavy metal load drives oxidative stress which certainly doesn’t help and I’ve read studies indicating iron chelation appears to offer some benefit for those with Parkinson’s and possibly Alzheimer’s.
Sad to note the political death of a fifty one year old woman from Macquarie Street Sydney.
I wouldn’t piss on Howard if he was on fire
OTOH, a bucket of petrol……..
The state has recorded 1143 new, locally acquired cases of COVID-19 and three deaths.
Going full Israel! Vax up / Covid up!
“Tomsays:
October 1, 2021 at 1:12 pm
The Australian public service Deep State claims another victim. Whatever it takes to get Labor elected in Canberra and every state capital.”
Correct. Meanwhile Daniel Andrews remains premier. And I’ll say it again, ICAC was missing in action during the years of real corruption in NSW….Carr/Iemma/Rees/Skank Keneally.
Channel Nien now talk like Glad Bags is to be sainted. Sick.
What?? Is this even real?
Gladys going because of ICAC is typical.
She could have bowed out saying that she senses that she and the people of NSW are no longer in agreement as to Covid strategies and to respect their wishes she has decided to step down to make way for someone better able to serve them.
Bowing out but unbowed.
Or claim that the stress has been too much – she did seem to be going for that image before (kudos to the make up artists who made her look more haggard for those press conferences than she normally did). Then she could go for sympathy.
But noooo. She will be got by ICAC because she accepted a gift or a meal.
But why would ICAC be after her now? She is damaging the Liberal brand every day in NSW. Sure in other states it might look like she is doing better than Labor, but within NSW she is a dour grim-reaper kind of figure.
Berejiklian resigns over ICAC ‘breach of trust’ probe
She’s out and the Dickhead that did a secret belt and road deal with the CCP is still breathing?!
Perfidious Dan to authorized workers:
Guys, thanks for all your work over these 18 months while many cowered in their homes, but if you don’t get the jab, you’re no longer welcome at work.
Apparently, we could work safely these last 18 months sans vaccine, but all of a sudden the danger is so staggering work is now verbotten.
The state of this country.
Gladys
You did this to yourself.
Gladys knew how Greiner and O’Farrell came a cropper and still didn’t stop Maguire. Real intellect in action.
I used to feel sorry for her until the lockdowns and vaccine threats, now I don’t care what happens to her.
The Jab Pushers know it, that’s why they’re madly trying to re-brand themselves as people who’s “free choice” to “get Jabbed” (if they are, and not amongst the many exempt, ‘special people’), should be respected by all and those who don’t are just “nasty”.
Is the sainted nongbat still whinging about how everyone is so mean to her while casting nasty aspersions left, right and centre?
So after getting her to implement their ugly violent two tiered system, to go to war with the NSW people, to be the first to ram it down Australia’s throat – no doubt under the blackmailish threat of investigating the 5.5 million dollar grant that was floated by our eyes briefly at the start of August, they now go ahead anyway and destroy her anyway.
What.a.fucking.idiot she is.
She will be remembered for the lockdown, the passports, the vicious anti-vaxx lunacy, then for this.
Should have stuck to her guns pre August.
Morrison, they’re going to do the same to you, you know.
Fight them!
Personally I’m sorry Gladys is going, she’s the only premier in Australia who was determined to put an end to covidmania.
“Personally I’m sorry Gladys is going, she’s the only premier in Australia who was determined to put an end to covidmania.”
Agree.
The findings that will eventually be handed down concerning her conduct with her boyfriend will be that sometimes used to squeeze the toothpaste tube in the middle and hid the remote control when the footy was on.
There is an even worse class; the Professional Propagandists who are employed in Social Media to befriend & gain the trust of people in order to “nudge” them into complying with Dictatorial Govt Mandates.
No, for me the risk of fire spreading would be too much.
I have waited 25 years for my next dump, in the hope Howard will have a grave not scattered ashes. There will be a line of about 850,000 but I can wait if I have to.
Major alarm bells should have been ringing when in the exact same week that both the 5.5 million grant story and the Hillsong ‘arrest’ stories broke (then quickly disappeared) Gladys and Morrison instantly and simultaneously both did the biggest backflip and betrayal of their people seen since Robert the Bruce in that Braveheart movie (sorry – saw it last week).
How did NSW suddenly end up being the sharp end of implementing that Chinese like system and not Victoria – the gateway of CCP influence?
Political blackmail was and is at hand.
It’s very likely her replacement will be worse.
Australia ready for take off? Is he planning another cash splash? Even if we open up will the international tourists come back? There is a worldwide computer chip shortage, overseas freight charges have gone through the roof, and there is no guarantee high vax rates will prevent future restrictions. Singapore has recently gone back into restrictions. It will be interesting to see how northern European countries now opened up will fare with the coming winter. The problem isn’t the death rate, nor so much long COVID, but the long time COVID patients spend in hospitals and especially ICU. China is the big issue because if it gets the sniffles we go into ICU.
I’m trying to rustle up some sympathy.
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No. Not working.
What was that about businesses who did not insist on vaxxed workers “going backwards”, Glad?
Bye, bye. Please continue to face me as you back out the door.
“Morrison, they’re going to do the same to you, you know.”
You read The New Daily? And you like Friendlyjordies!
People have been allowed to leave Australia but eventually many want to come back.
Thats been an issue with ‘hotel quarantine’ from the get go.
I wouldn’t mind Perrotet…..but we’ll probably end up with Green Kean.
I’ve heard good (insider) things about Perrottet, and his recent anti-passports statements are promising. Let’s hope he gets the gig.
Kean needs to be dispatched with extreme prejudice.
your local gp can deal with most cases, there is little need to go to hospital. this rona panic was always unjustified
Dan was having bad press. If NSW implements it first then they can bear the brunt of the outrage. When it dies down it can then be implemented in Victoria to make guarantee efficient interaction between the two biggest states and their people.
He really means “ready for landing” all those keen second-rate Chinese students “inoculated” with some substance or other or probably not.
To keep us safe.
If we get Kean, Glad will look Churchillian.
Haven’t we suffered enough already?
I do hope that the government pollies have woken up to the unpopularity of the covid measures and pending passports etc. I notice that state MP Tanya Davies yesterday seized upon Lyndall Dean’s dissenting opinion in the case Jennifer Kimber v Sapphire Coast Community Aged Care Ltd as Gab posted yesterday.
As far as I have heard there was no reprimand or demand for ‘context’. Tanya is still there. Gladys is not.
The difference between Victoria (Melbourne) and Sydney is Sydney are far closer to getting complete freedom albiet via the apparently not being policed two tier system.
Melbourne is months away from even that.
Right now the double vaxxed in Melbourne can picnic with one another double vaxxed household and I haven’t seen any evidence that that is being policed.
That’s the only ‘
concession ‘ to vaxx ed that im aware of, and no I haven’t taken advantage thus striking an enormous blow for freedom
The problem isn’t the death rate, nor so much long COVID, but the long time COVID patients spend in hospitals and especially ICU.
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True, but I’m told* that here in Victoria a lot of those who’ve been hospitalised with covid have been aged care residents who didn’t actually need hospital treatment, there just wasn’t anywhere else to put them.
They’ve had 18 months to sort this out, but they’ve been too busy upscaling VicPol’s armaments to focus on anything else.
[* by a friend who works in a large public hospital]
“your local gp can deal with most cases, there is little need to go to hospital.” – exactly Zippy
“The safety of the people of NSW is paramount and we are taking no risks. All participating students will be required to be fully vaccinated with a TGA-recognised Covid-19 vaccine, and strict quarantine protocols will be in place,” the NSW deputy premier, John Barilaro, said.”
apparently people inoculated with sinovax won’t be able to come to Australia , at the Guardian
Obama-Biden Afghan Ambassador Is Now A China-Funded Academic Tied To Influence Groups ‘Neutralizing’ Beijing’s Enemies.
Herald Sun front page today is good.
Side by side Dan quotes: 16 August “We don’t want to become like Sydney”, 29 September “I’m not here to make comparisons with NSW”. [Hope Paul Essenhigh sees that one.]
Also the headline Dan blames Victorians again for covid case numbers.
There is another issue with vaccine passports
Hairdressers and many similar small businesses have been deprived of the right to earn a living for months, and have been forced to get vaccinated if they want to work on the 11 October but don’t give them a thought.
“The safety of the people of NSW is paramount and we are taking no risks. All participating students will be required to be fully vaccinated with a TGA-recognised Covid-19 vaccine, and strict quarantine protocols will be in place,” the NSW deputy premier, John Barilaro, said.”
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This could be a good wedge.
If the Chicoms want to send their agents into Aus in the guise of students, they’ll pressurise Maximum Leader to let them into Victoria. But if, after all his LARPing as the heroic bulwark against the deadliest virus in the deadly history of deadliness (rinse & repeat) Dan lets in Chicoms without TGA approved vaxxes when NSW isn’t, some members of the public might ask a few questions.
Are Victorian hospitals overwhelmed though?
This is the time all Victorians should be recalling ‘flatten the curve’ was intended to give hospitals a chance to cope with an expected surge in numbers yet here we are, with Dan still in charge.
Mater up the top of the page.
Oh?
I think labelling someone a “good little German” for downloading a vax certificate goes a tad beyond “just pointing out” anything.
It is calling someone a Nazi for making a personal health decision.
A top way to win support from people.
I don’t think he can Tim.
The TGA is federal isn’t it?
I have been giving them a great deal of thought, rosie.
That was the gist of my comment at 1:34.
talk about LOL.
thanks Delta A
It is calling someone a Nazi for making a personal health decision.
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Taking the vaxx is a health decision.
Using a vaxx passport to get into a degustation bistro when unvaxxed are shut out of paid employment isn’t a health decision.
It was actually in respect to using the Vaccination certificate.
But it doesn’t take many increased hospitalizations to overwhelm the system because of narrow margins. Ambulance traffic jams at hospitals point to the problem. In some USA states army medical personnel are being called in to help address the situation. Unfortunately for the over 70’s comorbidity is very common.
If Kean gets a look in, you’ll be screaming “Bring back Glad” before the end of next week.
I wasn’t thinking of you calli.
I was thinking that vaccine passports were a state issue and someone in NSW might care more about supporting a local business than the ‘rights’ of someone in another state who is completely unaffected by decisions made by anyone in NSW.
I should be distressed that the Deep Billabong has again brought down a Liberal Premier.
But I’m not. Gulag Gladys deserves everything coming her way for ruining so many lives in NSW.
I don’t care if it’s the result of a witch hunt, or if it’s based on Labor dirt files, or simply the unelected ruling elite bringing her down.
In the same way that I swear a lot these days, I’ve given up on principled opposition to my political opponents.
One down, many to go.
Pfizer to pay $2.3 billion, agrees to criminal plea
If the vax producers weren’t protected we might see much more like this in the coming years.
So Gladys is Gone.
That’s a reasonable point Tim.
The mandate is the big issue here.
I don’t think he can Tim.
The TGA is federal isn’t it?
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Actually you’re right. The Feds would have to let them in to Australia before NSW could refuse to accept them – then when Dan let them into Victoria he’d just blame ScoMo.
“One down, many to go.”
Except that ICAC will go into hiding under the next Labor government.
You know what?
I don’t fucking care.
I am sick of the Queensssland cardigan brigade exhorting people to “stand or fall” from the comfort of their couches.
“Incur a fine … for the country”
“Take a rubber bullet … for the country”
Their pathetic whining doesn’t rate in my top ten factors in making a decision to either get vaxxed or use the resultant paperwork.
I don’t believe anyone should be forced to get vaxxed, but can anyone explain how exactly my refusal to use any vax documentation helps their case?
Following their yappy commands simply means I am swapping one form of TyRaNny for another.
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That’s easy.
If no one uses the bloody thing it will go away.
If the uptake is sufficient it will stay and be expanded.
What it gets expanded into should personally concern you.
That it gets used to flog the vaccine reluctant now, should concern you if not living in a two tier shithole worries you.
It has nothing to do at this point with the decision to get stabbed or not.
when they say “emissions” they don’t mean propaganda
I have just let management know that Dickhead Dan’s mandatory vax’s for authorised workers will cut the workforce by over 50% at best.
That’s assuming that some of the vaxed don’t decide to go out in support of the unvaxxed.
So proud of my crew!
There are some fundamental differences between NSW and Victoria.
NSW has tacitly acknowledged that enforcement of vax passports is practically difficult and probably legally fraught.
Dan won’t do that.
On the legal front he will try to crash through and then blame any subsequent deaths of 90 year olds on those running the challenge.
As for the practical side of enforcement, last year they toyed with the idea of deputising public servants for Kung Flu enforcement if they were short of Plod.
First will be PSOs, then WorkSafe inspectors, then nurses.
Imagine having some frumpy nurse Karen rock up to you in a pub and demand to see a vax certificate.
Ding Dong – the ugly, incompetent and corrupt armenian witch is (figuratively) dead!
Woo-hoo!
Here’s hoping for serious gaol time. Most of the ICAC stuff is courtesy of Daryl’s corrupt dealings with my beloved local council. So the latter have been good for something after all – apart from of course disabled aboriginal lesbian moozley puppet troupes, bankrolled courtesy of my exorbitant rates.
They’re all going to keep their big fat gobs shut?
That would be a nice start.
My hope doesn’t rest on people refusing the pass, or using the pass. They will do as they please, and justify themselves in any way they see fit.
My hope, such as it is, rests on this.
Failure is guaranteed.
If.
A huge if.
You need a Plan B.
Assume 85% vaxxed and 15% unvaxxed.
I would estimate that, of the 85%, less than 5% will voluntarily forego use of any passport as a gesture of solidarity.
Explain how being part of that 5% will make a scrap of difference.
Once this thing exists, every interest group, every one of our pathetic politicians and every one of these dictatorial public “servants” will want to add their own little obsession onto it.
Your carbon score? We can put that on your passport. save the planet.
Central bank digital currency and UBI? Hey, we can put that on the passport. No passport no UBI.
Online bullying? Put it on the passport. No passport, can’t sign onto online platforms.
Is there a single person here who ever for a single moment over the last 18 months of relentless hen-pecking actually thought Leigh Lowe here and his side kick Notafan weren’t going to be the first to line up for this shit?
It was funny watching you spend 18 months mercilessly ridiculing struth for saying ‘go to the shrine and protest’, then last week the tradies protest….went to the shrine.
Awkward!
Gladys should read the Cat.
Number 1 rule: Always escalate.
My sister called earlier and said that the doctor thinks mum has liver cancer, she’s 86 and has been in poor health for the last 5 years or so, sister asks if I can go down and help get mum to doctors etc, I said no problem but then she says that I have to be vaxxed, I asked why and she reckons they won’t let me into the hospitals etc. I said I’d think about it, now I have my two sisters turning on me and if what they say is true it’s unlikely that I’ll be able to see mum if she ends up in a hospital or hospice etc. These are evil times, I don’t know what to do.
“Leigh Lowe”
Where is Leigh Lowe? I’ve not seen him since Sinc shut down his Cat.
I seriously can’t believe some of you are cheerfully going to line up to show your papers, and in the midst of THAT, it’s me and Mater and Stix who are the problem.
Shiiiiiiiiiiiit.
I’m inclined to agree that vaccine passports and vaccine mandates are separate issues that don’t necessarily affect each other.
What Dan does remains to be seen.
As I said the picnic passport doesn’t seem to be being enforced and given Dan can’t guarantee hospitals can function now I can’t see him sending nurses into pubs.
Sure they can get a bunch more of the ever popular PR PSOs; after all the Victorian taxpayer is a bottomless pit of money.
No-one is ‘cheerfully showing up to show papers’.
I think the message is Queenslanders, myob.
Putting on a few more rolls…