Open Thread- Monday 27 Sept 2021


Forest Sunrise, Albert Bierstadt, late 19th Century

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rosie
rosie
September 30, 2021 4:21 pm

There was a point being made?
I can’t believe someone is actually complaining about how they received a welfare payment.
But sure another prophecy has come true.

areff
areff
September 30, 2021 4:24 pm

Jewish movie (series, actually)

The Kaminsky Method.

One of the best things in the past 12 months

rosie
rosie
September 30, 2021 4:24 pm

What happened to the principle that parents have the right to decide what medical treatment their children get?

FlyingPigs
FlyingPigs
September 30, 2021 4:27 pm

Leadership is about advancing your people and making decisions.

It is making decisions that may be right or may be wrong.

If your decision is wrong you change..

It is called WINNING for your people.

Not whether some fk arse likes you on twatspeak.

JC
JC
September 30, 2021 4:29 pm

Areff

Nothing but nothing beats , Curb Your Enthusiasm.

Barry
Barry
September 30, 2021 4:29 pm

Piggsy, you’re drunk.

Put your corkscrew away.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 30, 2021 4:31 pm

What happened to the principle that parents have the right to decide what medical treatment their children get?

Went out when trannies became fashionable. Jericho is being rebuilt, this time by the government. They should keep an eye on the sky for wandering comets.

Cassie of Sydney
September 30, 2021 4:31 pm

“JCsays:
September 30, 2021 at 4:29 pm
Areff

Nothing but nothing beats , Curb Your Enthusiasm.”

Ah..yes.

johanna
johanna
September 30, 2021 4:31 pm

H B Bear says:
September 30, 2021 at 2:59 pm

There can be no other reason for people desiring places with 3+ shitters.

People tell themselves all sorts of bullshit as to why they need to move house. A mate (well actually his wife, which is a clue) reckons they need to move because their son doesn’t want to share a bathroom with his two sisters.

In the US version of Househunters, bathrooms are evidently some sort of status symbol – the more the better. Doting (stupid) parents say things like – oh, no, Taylor and Lilly could never share a bathroom – there’d be fights!

Two observations:

(i) while there has long been conflict in families where everyone is trying to get ready at about the same time (TV sitcoms have dined out on this forever) it didn’t cause the world to come to an end. Multiple toilets certainly make sense in a busy household, but whole bathrooms? Unless there are lots of kids, which is almost never nowadays, two should be plenty; and

(ii) with the US examples, one can only assume an unending supply of cheap immigrant labour to clean them. You can’t tell me that a woman whose family spends enough on a house to have four or five bathrooms actually cleans them herself.

I’m not at all puritanical about home comforts, but the trend to bringing back the need for poorly paid servants to maintain conspicuous consumption does make me uneasy.

When I was preparing my last joint for sale, I got in commercial cleaners who turned out to be, yep, all immigrants. The smell of the stuff they used to clean the bathroom (it was a top to bottom including ceiling job) made my nose hairs curl. It would cut axle grease. But at least they were paid the minimum wage, and presumably were covered by workers comp.

I suppose the hard core libertarians would not share my discomfort about some of these things. There is nothing wrong with people being paid for providing services, but in the US a big driver of the illegal immigrant inflow is the availability of cheap unregulated labour to clean your five bathrooms or mind your children or tend and harvest your crops.

If the spigot was turned off, I wonder how many of those five bathroom houses would hit the market?

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
September 30, 2021 4:33 pm

What are the odds Brisbane goes into lockdown next week when the footy is over?

Spent the morning working out the cost/risk of mobilising men and equipment out of Brisbane onto a project ahead of a most-likely Monday 1am lockdown.

The risk of a Saturday morning lockdown proved too high – so the project is parked until we get a bit of certainty.

You can’t run an economy like this. The problem is that governments can.

FlyingPigs
FlyingPigs
September 30, 2021 4:34 pm

rosie says:
September 30, 2021 at 4:21 pm

There was a point being made?

yes!

maybe when all payment transfers are no longer paper based maybe you wont have any money.

what happens then???

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
September 30, 2021 4:37 pm

Jessica Rowe is a LLOYD.
As for Grace Tame – know from reports of attendees at her high school in Hobart that she was a bit of fork hawker.
She’s also a LLOYD.

FlyingPigs
FlyingPigs
September 30, 2021 4:37 pm

Barry says:
September 30, 2021 at 4:29 pm

Piggsy, you’re drunk.

Put your corkscrew away.

sorry Barry.

did I upset you poor widdle person????

rosie
rosie
September 30, 2021 4:38 pm

Cheques aren’t paper money.

FlyingPigs
FlyingPigs
September 30, 2021 4:42 pm

rosie says:
September 30, 2021 at 4:38 pm

Cheques aren’t paper money.

you and Barry will have a great romance.

Get Up are great.

rickw
rickw
September 30, 2021 4:42 pm

Australia is the laughing stock of the world:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFtlK6fuVno

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
September 30, 2021 4:44 pm

What are the odds _____ goes into lockdown next _____ ?

Fill in the form.

What are chances of emergency rule ever ending in the states?
I predict another 20 years of Dan of the Dead. Premier for life.

FlyingPigs
FlyingPigs
September 30, 2021 4:47 pm

I predict another 20 years of Dan of the Dead. Premier for life.

no elections with an Emergency.

calli
calli
September 30, 2021 4:48 pm

This thing is telling people who own businesses that if their employees aren’t vaxxed, they will “go backwards”.

What the hell does that even mean? Does it mean that they can’t operate? What legal right does she have to threaten businesses about their employees’ private health decisions?

Winston Smith
September 30, 2021 4:50 pm

TFM:

I stopped watching not long after the ‘shoot the prisoner” scene.

Don’t forget the ‘rape the civilian’ scene.
Don’t forget the ‘kill the Nazi PoW’.
We are a Nation of Laws, or we are not, but for Gods sake let’s stop pretending we were saints on a Grand Crusade.

Weren’t we the Goodies?

cohenite
September 30, 2021 4:51 pm

Since someone brought up the topic of bathrooms in houses here is a nice little beach house at Casuarina; $4 million should get you the key:

https://kingscliff.ljhooker.com.au/house-in-casuarina-nsw-2487-au-16rwf69

FlyingPigs
FlyingPigs
September 30, 2021 4:53 pm

Bawwie

you got to love Emperor Xi a long time.

calli
calli
September 30, 2021 4:55 pm

Is anyone else noticing supermarket supply issues?

Yes, Tom.

The bakery at my local Woolies is basically empty. If I want rolls, I have to go to Coles. Apparently it’s supply chain problems with the par-baked stuff that they finish off in the store’s ovens. All that’s available is hideous white death frozen stuff that normally would go off to the pig farms.

Sori tu mus, missus. Nagat. I’m back in Goroka now. 🙂

Gab
Gab
September 30, 2021 4:57 pm

Calli, bake your own bread. So many videos on it.

Gab
Gab
September 30, 2021 4:57 pm

And no fancy equipment required,

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
September 30, 2021 4:58 pm

what does this mean scientifically?

The question provides the answer.

calli
calli
September 30, 2021 4:59 pm

Dr Faustus says:
September 30, 2021 at 3:46 pm

I actually laughed at that disclaimer. First good one for the day, late as it is. Lord knows I needed one.

Thanks. 😀

FlyingPigs
FlyingPigs
September 30, 2021 5:01 pm

Was Malcolm Turnbull involved in that NSW Insurance company fkg disaster????

srr
srr
September 30, 2021 5:02 pm

rosie says:
September 30, 2021 at 4:07 pm
Pension and dole cheques?
Most sinister
I suspect that was changed because of a) cost and b) rampant fraud

Yeah, like legal tender over $10,000 cash, effectively isn’t.

The Topic was, ‘when did Australia turn a corner regarding giving up our freedoms’.

Forcing people who only ever dealt in cash to open bank accounts (that were going to go fully digital as we’re trained to progressively give Govt & 3rd parties the most intimate details about ourselves), was a pretty major step towards now when people are already being denied the right to buy, sell or trade if they’ve been ‘unpersoned’ … and people like you ‘mark’ others for ‘unpersoning’ while laughing and saying it’s their own fault if their non-compliance has cut them out of markets.

calli
calli
September 30, 2021 5:03 pm

I know I should, Gab. Instead I’m doing up little blankets (read quilts) for the children’s ward from the gargantuan fabric stash in the cupboard. The machine has been running hot during my forced incarceration.

I’m sorely tempted to buy a bread maker to save time. Anyone got a good brand?

Makka
Makka
September 30, 2021 5:04 pm

What happened to the principle that parents have the right to decide what medical treatment their children get?

A very clear and precise warning for us all; The State now has an unprecedented level of control over the individual. Legal or not it doesn’t matter (unless it is challenged effectively).

Winston Smith
September 30, 2021 5:05 pm

Incoherent Rambler:

Au cointreau

Nope. I finished that in the first day of lockdown.
Now looking at the 2 year old ruby port.

– a year past its use by date, IR.
Best send it here.

GoTiges
GoTiges
September 30, 2021 5:08 pm

Received this email from twin towns club yesterday;

NSW Premier Gladys Berejiklian has announced a three-stage roadmap which outlines the way forward for NSW Clubs:
1. From Monday 11 October, (70 percent of NSW people fully vaccinated), only fully vaccinated members, visitors, staff, contractors and others can enter the Club premises;

2. From Monday 25 October, (80 percent of NSW people fully vaccinated), further restrictions will ease, including intrastate travel for fully vaccinated people only.

3. From Wednesday 1 December, unvaccinated people will have the opportunity to enjoy the same freedoms as those who have received their double vaccination.

So in other words, from 1 December for us pure bloods, even those living on the other side of the border can just wander in without the desk Karens annoying us.
It does say in the fine print at the bottom that it could all change…..

Fat Tony
Fat Tony
September 30, 2021 5:10 pm

They’re doing their best to destroy the supply lines.
Struth was just a bit premature last year about this, but it is slowly coming to pass.

I’ve been doing a bit of on-line window shopping lately – “Out of Stock” is the most common description.

Food will slowly start to become scarce – I think Stalin starved to death most of his 30 million Kulaks – a population greater than Australia’s, people leading comfortable lives (for the period).

And nobody else in the world gave a fuck.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
September 30, 2021 5:10 pm

Weren’t we the Goodies?

You seem to be asking for…

FlyingPigs
FlyingPigs
September 30, 2021 5:11 pm

Anyone got a good brand?

any of them work well…
it’s the yeast and deadly flour that is more critical consideration.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 30, 2021 5:12 pm

China’s top chipmaker SMIC denies ties with military, expresses ‘shock and perplexity’ at claims

Lately the Chinese have been copying the Left’s approach to everything: which is to say anything you like no matter how ridiculously unbelievable and silly.

This one yesterday was amusing:

Beijing questions whether Australia will ‘blatantly stab China in the back’, sends warning over AUKUS

Yep minnows like us really really would stab their biggest trade market in the back, especially when that country has about 5 million servicemen and nuclear weapons.

Today’s effort is pretty good too.

‘Colonizers in pursuit of self-interest’: China blasts Australia’s treatment of indigenous people

At least we don’t use them as slaves to make basketball shoes, or break them up for spare parts when a pollie needs a kidney.

A Suggestion
A Suggestion
September 30, 2021 5:14 pm

Forcing people who only ever dealt in cash to open bank accounts (that were going to go fully digital as we’re trained to progressively give Govt & 3rd parties the most intimate details about ourselves), was a pretty major step…

Very well, then all money transaction facilities should have been given the status of legal tender and denied to NO ONE for ANY REASON.

srr
srr
September 30, 2021 5:17 pm

“FlyingPigs says:
September 30, 2021 at 4:11 pm
‘rosie says:
September 30, 2021 at 4:07 pm

Pension and dole cheques?’

completely bypassing the point the point that was made.’
_____________

That’s what rosie & some others do as a matter of course.

Spot posts raising topics they want killed off before they break acceptable narratives.

Take any bit from them & build a host of strawmen & red herrings around the bit ‘quoted’.

Bash the OP with their hollow men & stinkin’ fish.

Declare themselves ‘winners’ … no matter how many people they have to ‘bash’ to ‘prove’ it.

Ruthless & remorseless, just like Dan’s police Force.

calli
calli
September 30, 2021 5:18 pm

I’m starting to get the impression that Australia is being marginalised – drifting into pariah territory on the world “stage”. I also think this is being done deliberately from outside, with ample help from quislings inside.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 30, 2021 5:19 pm

JCsays:

September 30, 2021 at 4:29 pm

Areff

Nothing but nothing beats , Curb Your Enthusiasm.

True.
But you can’t binge watch it back-to-back.
You’ll end up yelling “Just fucking STOP, now!” at the telly.

srr
srr
September 30, 2021 5:23 pm

See, as described –

rosie says:
September 30, 2021 at 4:21 pm
There was a point being made?
I can’t believe someone is actually complaining about how they received a welfare payment.
But sure another prophecy has come true.

That’s what rosie & some others do as a matter of course.

Spot posts raising topics they want killed off before they break acceptable narratives.

Take any bit from them & build a host of strawmen & red herrings around the bit ‘quoted’.

Bash the OP with their hollow men & stinkin’ fish.

Declare themselves ‘winners’ … no matter how many people they have to ‘bash’ to ‘prove’ it.

Ruthless & remorseless, just like Dan’s police Force.

rosie
rosie
September 30, 2021 5:25 pm

Are you seriously claiming that people on the dole and pension were the vanguard of zealous guardians of privacy after they provided personal information, were interviewed by a social security clerk and given a social security number with a permanent file to go with it?
Get a grip.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 30, 2021 5:27 pm

Gabsays:

September 30, 2021 at 4:57 pm

Calli, bake your own bread. So many videos on it.

Gabsays:

September 30, 2021 at 4:57 pm

And no fancy equipment required,

A wife is all that is required.

Robert the Irish Scot
Robert the Irish Scot
September 30, 2021 5:29 pm

For those who enjoy reading intelligent writings, Quadrant Online has an excellent article;

The Power of Knowledge and the Forces of Ignorance
by Professor Wolfgang Kasper.

This gentleman was trained by people such as, Friedrich Hayek, Fritz Machlup, Gottfried Harberler and Karl Popper.

Unable to provide link, simply look up Quadrant Online.

Fair Shake
Fair Shake
September 30, 2021 5:30 pm

At the risk of plagiarising someone else’s comment:

1st October is Premiers Day.
This is when Dan comes out of his burrow spies his shadow and declares another 8 weeks of lockdown.

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
September 30, 2021 5:30 pm

“Andrews has announced that the government is set to reduce the Pfizer interval in state hubs to 3 weeks as of 4 October.”
There are MULTIPLE studies / recommendations AGAINST reducing the interval between vaxx jabs. If it is shortened there chances are that it actually reduces efficacy.
******
Rorschash, it’s pure politics.
Maximum Leader has swaggered around for weeks telling his subjects that they won’t be allowed to enjoy themselves till the state gets to his announced double dose percentages.
Obviously the projections are that the state won’t be getting there fast enough.
And obviously the polls are telling him that ranting and screaming at the unvaxxed won’t cut it.
But if he backs down and allows “freedoms” faster than he’s announced, especially if “case numbers” are still high, people will start to wonder why the restrictions were so harsh in the first place.
So he has to get the proles jabbed faster, even if that means that the vaxx is totally ineffective.

rosie
rosie
September 30, 2021 5:31 pm

You think anyone disagreeing with you should shut up.
That’s your ‘acceptable narrative’, wachtmeister.

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
September 30, 2021 5:31 pm

“Everyone’s entitled to their own views, but…..

..
Everything else Tame says is rubbish.

Roger
Roger
September 30, 2021 5:41 pm

‘Colonizers in pursuit of self-interest’: China blasts Australia’s treatment of indigenous people

Chinese Communists have all the self-awareness of an ABC presenter.

srr
srr
September 30, 2021 5:45 pm

Bruce of Newcastle says:
September 30, 2021 at 4:31 pm
‘What happened to the principle that parents have the right to decide what medical treatment their children get?’

Went out when trannies became fashionable. Jericho is being rebuilt, this time by the government. They should keep an eye on the sky for wandering comets.
____________________

That reminds me. Bruce, did you hear the news of a “silent” blue “explosion” in Geelong last night(?), that knocked out electricity supplies?

I was told it made the MSM News and they said that it was NOT a comet or something from out of our atmosphere, but something was seen travelling in the sky, glowing, before ‘exploding’ ‘blue’ and the blackouts happening.

I ask because the same thing happened some years ago in another region but what stood out was that while whole blocks blacked out, some properties on the same power supplies did NOT lose power at all.

Do you know of what sort of natural phenomenon’s could do this sort of thing or are the people talking about ‘EMP Tests’ likely close to the mark?

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
September 30, 2021 5:46 pm

Dr Faustussays:
September 30, 2021 at 3:46 pm
****
Thanks for the link Dr F.

A while ago rosie linked to a paper from Imperial College (notable faculty member Neil “Pants Down” Ferguson, world class wrongologist) which claimed to show that vaccinations gave some protection against catching and transmitting covid, by reference only to society wide data.
I pointed out that the paper also said that catching and transmitting covid was more prevalent among underprivileged and minorities, and that the paper was thus meaningless without an analysis of whether “vaccine hesitancy” was equal or different among different socioeconomic groups, since otherwise the society wide data might be misleading.
Your link confirms that vaccine hesitancy is higher among minorities and underprivileged than society in general.
Of course without a detailed examination of the total database it’s not possible to draw conclusions, but at the very least there must be a question mark as to what if anything the paper really tells us about vaxx effectiveness re catching and transmitting.

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 30, 2021 5:49 pm

Mother Lode at 3:34 – it is a very passing acquaintance. There is a very funny story to her being the first contestant booted off but that is a story for another day,

FlyingPigs
FlyingPigs
September 30, 2021 5:50 pm

Is it not time to shove the term “case numbers” up the arz of all medical folk????

whats a “case number” other than number ‘123’ or whatever.

The biggest grouping of “case numbers” in Australia are fkhead politicians and their police filth.

How say you Bawwie with the pig corkscrew up your arz????

Zipster
Zipster
September 30, 2021 5:53 pm

scum socialists have been doing this for decades. we are all activists now
ALMON: The Left Are Freaking Out Over Bannon’s Local Takeover Strategies… Because They Work.

cohenite
September 30, 2021 5:56 pm

Just had a look at the Cat Trove snapshots; 2013 was completely missing, as are some other years. I guess the prof really did not want it as a legacy.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 30, 2021 5:58 pm

Of course without a detailed examination of the total database it’s not possible to draw conclusions, but at the very least there must be a question mark as to what if anything the paper really tells us about vaxx effectiveness re catching and transmitting.

That may be true, Timothy Nielsen, if you are trying to specifically assess risk for a given individual or cohort.
But there must be meta-data available for large populations.
For the following groups of people:-
1. Unvaxxed.
2. Vaxed with Pfizer.
3. Vaxed with AZ.
4. Vaxed with Moderna.
I would like to see:-
1. Chance of catching.
2. Chance of transmitting.
3. For those who catch it, level of hospitalisation and mortality.

Barry
Barry
September 30, 2021 5:58 pm

Carry on Piggsie!

I’m loving that corkscrew pig dong!

FlyingPigs
FlyingPigs
September 30, 2021 5:58 pm

There are NIL case numbers.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
September 30, 2021 5:59 pm

Making fun at China’s expense drives them crazy, well crazier. Don’t respond to their outlandish claims except to rubbish them. Don’t take them seriously, that hurts them more. They do whatever they like anyway. Use the pooh bear meme.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
September 30, 2021 6:01 pm

Just had a call with someone I know in Townsville.
Townsville put on notice for lockdown because fully vaccinated pilot had a sniffle and tested positive to Chicom Pox.
Woolies flooded with panic buyers.
Great work MSM and softcock politicians – keep up the panic.

FlyingPigs
FlyingPigs
September 30, 2021 6:01 pm

Barry says:
September 30, 2021 at 5:58 pm

Carry on Piggsie!

I’m loving that corkscrew pig dong!

Of course you do.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 30, 2021 6:03 pm

The right of pensioners and the unemployed to receive social security via cheque is not a top ten issue for me.
The major reason for pushback was people with a cash job collecting the dole.

Dot
Dot
September 30, 2021 6:08 pm

1st October is Premiers Day.
This is when Dan comes out of his burrow spies his shadow and declares another 8 weeks of lockdown.

It’s Freedom Day, again, apparently.

Dot
Dot
September 30, 2021 6:09 pm

Forcing people who only ever dealt in cash to open bank accounts (that were going to go fully digital as we’re trained to progressively give Govt & 3rd parties the most intimate details about ourselves), was a pretty major step…

Have you heard of Monero?

FlyingPigs
FlyingPigs
September 30, 2021 6:10 pm

Sure Sancho Puncher

And the UNiparty just flicks through money without investigation.

calli
calli
September 30, 2021 6:10 pm

For Dot.

Won’t last as long as a car though.

srr
srr
September 30, 2021 6:10 pm

A Suggestion says:
September 30, 2021 at 5:14 pm

Forcing people who only ever dealt in cash to open bank accounts (that were going to go fully digital as we’re trained to progressively give Govt & 3rd parties the most intimate details about ourselves), was a pretty major step…

Very well, then all money transaction facilities should have been given the status of legal tender and denied to NO ONE for ANY REASON.

Yes, SHOULD have, and might have, if those warning of what did end up coming to be got enough people to take them seriously instead of being written off as ‘conspiracy nuts’ by Govt’s Professional Propagandists, who yes, did exist ‘before the internet’, largely in all levels of Tertiary Education, especially producing MSM ‘editors’ & ‘programmers’.

Meanwhile, here we are with mobs like PayPal & other EFunds Transferrers, Amazon, YouTube & even Well Fargo et al, financially “unpersoning” people & that’s fine cos, ‘private businesses’ … oh but lets all trust Ecoin & Blockchain! They really will be 100% safe & secure, forever, unlike emails & encrypted bank transactions that the same people made the same promises about. /sarc

calli
calli
September 30, 2021 6:11 pm

Eeew, sorry. That meme, like “freedoms” came with baggage.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 30, 2021 6:15 pm

Toad, earlier, and apropos of Tame and Rowe:

I’m usually well informed on these matters, but – what is a LLOYD?

FlyingPigs
FlyingPigs
September 30, 2021 6:15 pm

Pension and Welfare is now exceeded by supposed Providers of Services to what had previously been the volunteer organizations….

FlyingPigs
FlyingPigs
September 30, 2021 6:22 pm

So called NGO’s and Not-for-Profit schemozzles are filth.

Fat Tony
Fat Tony
September 30, 2021 6:24 pm

Knuckle Dragger says:
September 30, 2021 at 6:15 pm
I’m usually well informed on these matters, but – what is a LLOYD?

From the actor Lloyd Bridges who starred in a 1960 TV show called Sea Hunt…..

FlyingPigs
FlyingPigs
September 30, 2021 6:25 pm

what say you Bawwie????

srr
srr
September 30, 2021 6:26 pm

rosie says:

September 30, 2021 at 5:25 pm
Are you seriously claiming that people on the dole and pension were the vanguard of zealous guardians of privacy after they provided personal information, were interviewed by a social security clerk and given a social security number with a permanent file to go with it?
Get a grip.

Key point is, “rosie says”, NOT the people she wants others to believe dribbled the shit she does.

rosie isn’t the only one who does this but she is always very friendly with the others who regularly do it, especially against the same targets.

Studying them is a great educations for those still wondering how Australia became so Fascistic so ‘suddenly’.

miltonf
miltonf
September 30, 2021 6:26 pm

Get a load of this filthy old demonrot fossil

Former Obama administration Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius said Wednesday on MSNBC’s “All In” that Americans who have not received a coronavirus vaccine are like “secondhand smoke” in that they can make people sick.

See where all the unpersoning of people who don’t want to be injected with experimental, dubious concoctions is coming from.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 30, 2021 6:30 pm

Aha. Sea Hunt. Got it.

I would have said COAT, but LLOYD is not without merit.

Fat Tony
Fat Tony
September 30, 2021 6:33 pm

These so-called “vaccines”:
I don’t care how well they work, to me that’s not an issue.

What concerns me is:
1. The toxic nature of these “vaccines”.
2. The controlling that comes with the “vaccine passport” – Social Credit Score….

It seems the mRNA “vaccines” are being pushed on the white/European races.
If they exterminate these people, who’s going to make all the good inventions and devices that the rich bastards like? Africans? Chinese?

Fat Tony
Fat Tony
September 30, 2021 6:35 pm

Knuckle Dragger says:
September 30, 2021 at 6:30 pm
Aha. Sea Hunt. Got it.

I would have said COAT, but LLOYD is not without merit.

Now you gonna have to explain that one to me….. 🙂

FlyingPigs
FlyingPigs
September 30, 2021 6:35 pm

I want fkg documentation of all political “case studies”.

And fk off with some fkg privacy crap if it will be public knowledge of whom can and cannot deal with anyone.

srr
srr
September 30, 2021 6:35 pm

Poor rosie jumped the gun while I was reading, writing & doing other things, and proved herself wrong, and me correct, yet again –

rosie says:
September 30, 2021 at 5:31 pm
You think anyone disagreeing with you should shut up.
That’s your ‘acceptable narrative’, wachtmeister.

rosie says:

September 30, 2021 at 5:25 pm
[blah, bullshit, blah]

Key point is, “rosie says”, NOT the people she wants others to believe dribbled the shit she does.

rosie isn’t the only one who does this but she is always very friendly with the others who regularly do it, especially against the same targets.

Studying them is a great education for those still wondering how Australia became so Fascistic so ‘suddenly’.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 30, 2021 6:37 pm

Fat Tonysays:

September 30, 2021 at 5:10 pm

They’re doing their best to destroy the supply lines.
Struth was just a bit premature last year about this, but it is slowly coming to pass.

The re-visitation of the Great Prediction #341.
Yeah.
But nah.
Struth predicted a failure in point to point trucking links within 1-2 weeks of 1st August 2020.
What we are seeing now has nothing to do with the trucking part of the process.
There are two things at play.
1. Large numbers of staff are being taken out of supermarkets because of 1-2 cases; and
2. As mentioned above, the ‘all eggs in one basket’ procurement practices of having large centralised bakeries (and now butchers). One case on one shift in the bakery and they are screwed.
Completely different to the Great Prediction.
And it makes sense.
The most labour intensive part of the process, and where people work in close proximity is in the supermarket itself, followed next by distribution centres and centralised bakeries and butchers.
Truck drivers are, by the nature of the work, more isolated than almost everyone else in the process and less prone to being taken out by a contact at work.
And they are relatively easily covered for. An average supermarket might have 2-3 semi-trailer drops a day. Taking out one driver doesn’t collapse the system.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
September 30, 2021 6:39 pm

Townsville put on notice for lockdown because fully vaccinated pilot had a sniffle and tested positive to Chicom Pox.

So, not a great Grand Final Plan B location for when Dr Moist Hairstyle pushes a panic Brisbane lockdown on Saturday morning.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
September 30, 2021 6:41 pm

Toad. Friend I have currently in Cairns looking at property is now considering extending his stay over the long weekend. He’s from Townsville.

Cairns is the polar opposite apparently.

FlyingPigs
FlyingPigs
September 30, 2021 6:41 pm

Sancho Panzer says:
September 30, 2021 at 6:37 pm

good twie bawwy

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 30, 2021 6:42 pm

That reminds me. Bruce, did you hear the news of a “silent” blue “explosion” in Geelong last night(?), that knocked out electricity supplies?

Srr – That’s probably the Chinese rocket that was seen over Eastern Australia. Doubtful that a blackout would be caused by it, but if there was an unrelated blackout you can imagine people conflating them.

FlyingPigs
FlyingPigs
September 30, 2021 6:44 pm

bawwy

are supply chains fkd????

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 30, 2021 6:47 pm

PS.
The supermarket problem of taking entire shifts of wukkas out of play for 14 days will be solved.
As cases ramp up this will happen more and more.
It will move to rapid testing, shorter downtimes for double-vaxxed (no unvaxxed employees), whatever.
It will be sorted because Colesworth.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
September 30, 2021 6:50 pm

On the Great Supply Chain Imbroglio:

It’s not just bread and meat shortages at Colesworth.

Tinned tomatoes.
I was sent out last night for tinned tomatoes, with “and don’t come back with those watery homebrand”.

Being a lawful and enforceable instruction, I ended up having to go to a not-so-nearby IGA after finding Coles and Woolies had nothing but small quantities of illegal tomatoes.

And other strange shelf emptiness.
#endofdays

rosie
rosie
September 30, 2021 6:50 pm

Señor Panzer
I suspect similar problems are besetting Australia Post distribution centres.
Which is why there is another five day halt to parcel pick up for businesses.

FlyingPigs
FlyingPigs
September 30, 2021 6:50 pm

Coles and Woolworth that are flying plane loads of food and grog into Emperor Xi’s domain.

hzhousewife
hzhousewife
September 30, 2021 6:52 pm

I’m sorely tempted to buy a bread maker to save time. Anyone got a good brand?

Calli, my (cheap)Breville burned out at about 20 years, my current (cheap)Panasonic is ten years old. Haven’t purchased bread or rolls since Feb 2020 when we retired. It is a lot of fun now I have more time, currently enjoying sourdough English Muffins (no bread maker involved). Start with Laucke products, very very easy, type of bread maker doesn’t matter.

calli
calli
September 30, 2021 6:52 pm

Tinned tomatoes.

This was mentioned about six-eight weeks ago here.

Steel supply problems in Italy.

rosie
rosie
September 30, 2021 6:53 pm

Had a look at Melbourne docklands on Tuesday, very busy and there were three ships parked out in the bay.
Delays there too?

FlyingPigs
FlyingPigs
September 30, 2021 7:01 pm

Start with Laucke product

excellent product

and yes Breville was my favourite… they even supply replacement parts when required.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 30, 2021 7:01 pm

Back from the specialist, with the Memsahib. Seems one of the medications she was prescribed for a misdiagnosed condition actually magnified the effects of said complaint…..Fvck Me Swinging…..

calli
calli
September 30, 2021 7:02 pm

Thanks for the bread tips, Cats.

FlyingPigs
FlyingPigs
September 30, 2021 7:03 pm

three ships parked out in the bay

the busiest container port in Australia!!!!

we are stuffed.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Border Closure

Winston Smithsays:
September 30, 2021 at 4:50 pm

TFM:
I stopped watching not long after the ‘shoot the prisoner” scene.
Don’t forget the ‘rape the civilian’ scene.
Don’t forget the ‘kill the Nazi PoW’.
We are a Nation of Laws, or we are not, but for Gods sake let’s stop pretending we were saints on a Grand Crusade.
Weren’t we the Goodies?

Favourite scenes were at the end – a immobilised tank held up an entire battalion of Waffen SS for something like 24 hrs.

In reality a battalion of Waffen SS wouldn’t have even had to break stride to eliminate one tank – never mind an immobilised one.

The rest of the movie I could accept (this is not the same meaning as endorse). The ending was farce.

Iron Cove
Iron Cove
September 30, 2021 7:07 pm

Quote “Moderna’s promise — and the more than $2 billion it raised before going public in 2018 — hinged on creating a fleet of mRNA medicines that could be safely dosed over and over. But behind the scenes the company’s scientists were running into a familiar problem. In animal studies, the ideal dose of their leading mRNA therapy was triggering dangerous immune reactions — the kind for which Karikó had improvised a major workaround under some conditions — but a lower dose had proved too weak to show any benefits.

Moderna had to pivot. If repeated doses of mRNA were too toxic to test in human beings, the company would have to rely on something that takes only one or two injections to show an effect. Gradually, biotech’s self-proclaimed disruptor became a vaccines company, putting its experimental drugs on the back burner and talking up the potential of a field long considered a loss-leader by the drug industry.”
This is from statnews.com Nov 2020 in the article “The story of mRNA…”

A cynic might suggest that none of the vaccine cos. have solved the dosage problem too well, hence the forever booster shots.
Seems to me a reasonable surmise that all the companies and the Government health authorities were happy to sell the over-promise of the vaccines and we are now suffering the bullshit consequences.

Roger
Roger
September 30, 2021 7:12 pm

Former Obama administration Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius said Wednesday on MSNBC’s “All In” that Americans who have not received a coronavirus vaccine are like “secondhand smoke” in that they can make people sick.

In response, take a leaf out of the Leftist media playbook:

So…you’re saying the vaccines don’t work?

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
September 30, 2021 7:12 pm

Tinned tomatoes.
This was mentioned about six-eight weeks ago here.
Steel supply problems in Italy.

Bugger.
Wish I had known that last night.

I could have easily defused a ‘you never listen, do you, well do you’ discussion with: “Darling, you need to be more global, Fiat and Maserati stole them…

Muddy
Muddy
September 30, 2021 7:12 pm

‘A small number of extremists’: Capitol Police video will show that January 6 was not an insurrection.

Despite the protest against fraud in the 2020 election, the general mood was calm, jovial, and festive.

Even so, cells of organized operatives were visible to people who knew what to look for. As events unfolded, it became clear that a prearranged plan had been implemented to storm the Capitol building, exploiting the unsuspecting crowd as cover and recruiting the more gullible or excited as a follow-on invasion force.

This became incontrovertible after spending weeks reviewing photos and videos (including our own), interviewing other observers, and reading other eyewitness accounts.

Old bloke
Old bloke
September 30, 2021 7:14 pm

calli says:
September 30, 2021 at 5:18 pm

I’m starting to get the impression that Australia is being marginalised – drifting into pariah territory on the world “stage”. I also think this is being done deliberately from outside, with ample help from quislings inside.

That’s been the case for years, Australia has always been beaten about the ears by climate change hysterics, refugee policy advocates, and activists promoting all manner of other causes on the world stage.

There’s plenty of quislings here supporting them too.

Muddy
Muddy
September 30, 2021 7:14 pm

Let’s try this again.

As events unfolded, it became clear that a prearranged plan had been implemented to storm the Capitol building, exploiting the unsuspecting crowd as cover and recruiting the more gullible or excited as a follow-on invasion force.

Source.

132andBush
132andBush
September 30, 2021 7:16 pm

Re others upthread on whether vaccines are slowing transmission.

I’ve been putting a bit of time into this.
Most up to date are the following;

CDC Scroll down to relevant paragraphs.

Medicine with Dr Moran, latest video

The University of Colorado (Boulder) was conducting a trial on all students to see if vaccinated transmitted less than unvaccinated. It started in March/April and they were declaring results would be in “by fall” and the recommencement student attendance.
I can’t find any results as yet.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
September 30, 2021 7:21 pm

rosie says:
September 30, 2021 at 6:53 pm
Had a look at Melbourne docklands on Tuesday, very busy and there were three ships parked out in the bay.
Delays there too?

Did you see a front for a Massey Ferguson mower conditioner while you were there?
The neighbours got a new machine and have been waiting for the cutter bar for months. Hay season is upon us and they were getting desperate.
The last ship in from the US was scheduled to have it on board but once it arrived at port the machinery dealer was told the entire ship cargo space was gazumped by Amazon to carry their packages of crap for the locked up plebs.
We are well and truly stuffed.

Muddy
Muddy
September 30, 2021 7:22 pm

Definitely worth a read:

Small groups of organized cadres operated as units, often with markings so they could identify one another, to exploit the huge and unsuspecting crowd for what was clearly a pre-planned attack.

Roger
Roger
September 30, 2021 7:22 pm

Re grocery supply chains…

No conspicuous shortages here beyond the pale (i.e. west of the Great Divide) other than, strangely, grated cheese.

And cheese graters.

rosie
rosie
September 30, 2021 7:23 pm

Not even wity my glasses on Gez.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
September 30, 2021 7:24 pm

Coles and Woolworth that are flying plane loads of food and grog into Emperor Xi’s domain.

Presumably including tinned tomatoes, block cheese, and those delicious Tyrrells cheese and chive crisps.

Nuclear weapons, now.

Muddy
Muddy
September 30, 2021 7:24 pm

But all wasn’t well. Behind a handicapped woman in an electric scooter, a gloved man in subdued clothes, wearing a hoodie over a hat with sunglasses and a bandana covering his face, looked like he didn’t belong. Few MAGA people covered their faces.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
September 30, 2021 7:25 pm

Doc, so V’Landys is now having an oh siht moment. You know what I don’t care. Far too much leeway has been given to these people already. If mums sick and dying you apply to enter but B2 is like na can’t come in as we have to be strong for the safety of Queenslanders. However insert (celeb, rich person or football team & plastic groupies) yeah no problems, nowwhere did I put that carpet. If they are a little uncomfortable now then good.

Don’t start me on Townsvilles Lancini Stadium. I still pay rates in Townsville as much as it is probably cutting my nose to spite my face, good that they won’t get it. I am reliably told the alleged sell out of seats for the rugby last week was all smoke & mirrors. They are still trying to justify it’s opulence when the city nearly ran out of water. Anyway I digress, the amount of conflicts of interest that went into building that white elephant in the middle of the downturn was phenomenal. LOL another of Turnbull’s alleged masterstokes of judgement and ALP pork barreling.

Doc please don’t take as a shot just a vent on my part. Wow after that I need to zone out till I get my laid back nature back. Where’s the beer fridge?

Muddy
Muddy
September 30, 2021 7:27 pm

Pictures taken at 1:06 show a large and calm crowd, completely normal except for about four men, some in helmets, with orange tape apparently to identify themselves as part of a unit.

Muddy
Muddy
September 30, 2021 7:31 pm

Inflammatory props at the lead of a protest showed one of two things: someone had organized in advance to want extra media coverage for his cause, or was an opponent trying to discredit the event.

I couldn’t tell which was which, but in 40 years of observing demonstrations in Washington, it’s clear that someone has planned trouble when a few provocateurs conspicuously wave Confederate battle flags at the front of a mainstream conservative protest.

Old bloke
Old bloke
September 30, 2021 7:34 pm

srr says:
September 30, 2021 at 5:45 pm

That reminds me. Bruce, did you hear the news of a “silent” blue “explosion” in Geelong last night(?), that knocked out electricity supplies?

srr, is there anything on the internet about that? I asked Mr. Google and he hasn’t heard about it.

Muddy
Muddy
September 30, 2021 7:35 pm

The organized militants were now mobilizing. Two tacticals are shown in the video in similar tan helmets, one with a red emblem on the back. Closer to the ground and in front appeared a group of men in black, one in what looked a regular police cap, two with baseball caps, and one in camouflage and a vest and helmet with insignia.

(I’m being persistent with these quotes because it reads as a very observant breakdown of the event. It’s a much more professional example of what I was trying to write about a few days ago in my ‘Seeing and Looking’ post).

Muddy
Muddy
September 30, 2021 7:40 pm

At 1:50, a group of helmeted tacticals designated with green tape headed toward the stairs leading up to the Senate. A group of five men in green tape assembled at the base.

Police continued to fire tear gas deep into the crowd. A senseless provocation. At 1:51, police projectiles hit people about 40 yards away. Someone yelled, “Throw it back!” It could have been a provocateur. It could have been a normal, outraged person.

(This appears a superbly-planned operation. What entity is capable of planning and executing such a thing? How much training was involved?).

Muddy
Muddy
September 30, 2021 7:41 pm

The huge amount of people in one concentrated area had overloaded the local cell phone towers. So many cell phones in one area made calls, texts, and other messaging virtually impossible. Most people simply didn’t know what was happening.

This wasn’t a government conspiracy to shut down communication. It happens at most large protests in Washington, including the annual March for Life and pro-abortion events that are about as large as the January 6 crowd.

The only people who could reliably communicate with one another were those equipped with phone apps that could break through the electronic congestion, and with old-fashioned walkie-talkies, loudspeakers, and flags. Those people were few.

Muddy
Muddy
September 30, 2021 7:43 pm

But instead of going after the covert cadre with the clear unit-designation markings – as any trained crowd control unit would easily recognize – from our vantage point the police aimlessly went after the ordinary people.

With the red-hat agitator continuing to pound his flag pole at 2:04, police fired flash grenades and tear gas with greater intensity. Another agitator banged a wooden flag pole in unison and called out, “Keep pushing!” as he advanced toward the stairs. A man marked with orange tape approached the red-hat flagman.

By now the scaffolding tower on the north end of the inaugural platform had been taken over from the inside, and someone cut through the sheeting and waved a flag in what looked like a command signal. At that moment, at 2:05, the organized, helmeted tacticals set out for the Senate stairs.

Dot
Dot
September 30, 2021 7:43 pm

Boambee asked me what the LDP would say as our “Forgotten People” speech.

John,

I am so far off the reservation now it isn’t funny.

They’re like Milton Friedman or Alan Dershowitz. I am still a member.

I am like Bo Gritz or Ayn Rand. Or David D Freidman.

On steroids.

I can’t speak for normies.

John Humphreys is national President. He’s quite vocal. Look him up on Facebook and other millenial crap I’d never use.

Muddy
Muddy
September 30, 2021 7:46 pm

A male operative waved in militants from behind the cover of the inaugural platform scaffolding. A man on an elevated surface, carrying one of three Confederate battle flags, armed with a walkie-talkie, moved people onward from within the outside crowd.

(This analysis is gob-smacking if even close to being an accurate observation. There is so much to learn from this).

FlyingPigs
FlyingPigs
September 30, 2021 7:47 pm

Where’s the beer fridge?

bawwie stole it and put it on a train full of wheat heading across the nullabor… bastard

Indolent
Indolent
September 30, 2021 7:49 pm

From the actor Lloyd Bridges who starred in a 1960 TV show called Sea Hunt…..

Yes, but why? What did Lloyd Bridges ever do?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 30, 2021 7:51 pm

Tinned tomatoes.
This was mentioned about six-eight weeks ago here.
Steel supply problems in Italy.

Oh noes!
We might be reduced to buying Strayan tomatoes and brewing our own on the stove.

Zipster
Zipster
September 30, 2021 7:52 pm

Rocket wreckage falls in residential area; Japan’s incoming prime minister vows to counter China
A new team is formed by the World Health Organization. Its goal is to push forward a new phase of study on the origin of the pandemic.

white wash #2

Muddy
Muddy
September 30, 2021 7:56 pm

It’s impossible to know or estimate, from the article I have linked to above, how many active ‘tacticals’ took part in what has become known as the Jan 6 Capitol Riots. There are so many questions though: Assuming only 20 individuals were present and active – how were they transported to Washington? Where were they accommodated? Who paid for the accommodation, their meals and other costs? Who procured the Confederate flags, other props, helmets and other necessary clothing and equipment? Were all of these people from the same source? If not, how was the co-ordination managed? How were they exfiltrated? Within the group, was there a cadre and peripherals (disposables?).

Diogenes
Diogenes
September 30, 2021 8:01 pm

Had a look at Melbourne docklands on Tuesday, very busy and there were three ships parked out in the bay.
Delays there too?

Where we are staying gives us a great view of the northern end of the channel out of Brisbane. At least one car carrier a day in and out, a few big bastard container ships and a handful of smaller container ships as well as some sort of mineral carriers and small oil tankers

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
September 30, 2021 8:01 pm

Muddy. Just finished those Dannochio episodes. Gets better as it goes on. I cant believe they actually went there with episode 4.

FlyingPigs
FlyingPigs
September 30, 2021 8:03 pm

ZK2A

commiserations to your missus and your self.

tough stuff to deal with.

sometimes, and I did this with my still living but then 13 yo daughter, 30 years ago.

It was a shit decision and the specialist laid it out…. we experiment with her with these drugs and she may survive or she just dies… your choice…

not sure I would approve the current crap though.

lol

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 30, 2021 8:07 pm

Muddy – This was reported just over a week after 1/6. It was discussed on Old Cat at the time. About 200 or so Antifa were there, including of course John Sullivan – who got into trouble trying to sell the footage he had taken. The MSM have been deep sixing this fanatically, as has been the FBI. Meanwhile dozens of innocent protesters rot in solitary.

You can tell a totalitarian government by how they behave. Biden’s lot are behaving like totalitarians. Which means they will be going all out to steal 2022 and 2024, since they dare not do otherwise.

And as with all of this stuff…you read it here first, or at least you did on Old Cat. Everything we’ve talked about is true: stolen election, Antifa, Hunter Biden, Hillary, the Wussian scam, the whole thing. It just keeps on dribbling out slowly.

FlyingPigs
FlyingPigs
September 30, 2021 8:08 pm

Muddy says:
September 30, 2021 at 7:56 pm

and the supposed “bombs” at the DNC and RNC the night of January 5, 2021!!!!!

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
September 30, 2021 8:09 pm

Doc, so V’Landys is now having an oh siht moment. You know what I don’t care.

I doubt V’Landys cares that much, either.

As I understand the NRL deal with the Palacechook, Queenslanders will cough up in compensation for any losses caused by the actions of the Queensland Government.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 30, 2021 8:11 pm

It’s impossible to know or estimate, from the article I have linked to above, how many active ‘tacticals’ took part in what has become known as the Jan 6 Capitol Riots.

226

All this is well known to Cats. I said so myself a couple weeks afterwards.

Muddy
Muddy
September 30, 2021 8:16 pm

Bruce.
I’m aware it has been known for some time that there was a great amount of skulduggery; what I have not read previously is such a detailed ‘observational analysis,’ especially the identification and groupings of active participants.

Muddy
Muddy
September 30, 2021 8:19 pm

O.K., thanks, Bruce. I think I was having a break from Cat2 at the time. What has happened since then to prove or disprove that allegation though?

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
September 30, 2021 8:21 pm

Oh noes!
We might be reduced to buying Strayan tomatoes and brewing our own on the stove.

C’mon man.
What are these “stoves” of which you speak?

Get with the Second World.

Muddy
Muddy
September 30, 2021 8:22 pm

Is Antifa really that well trained and co-ordinated though? I wouldn’t be surprised if a number of them were roped in to act as extras, but I’m sceptical they were the cadre. I don’t have any contradictory evidence, but …

miltonf
miltonf
September 30, 2021 8:28 pm

Yes things took a very nasty turn in 2020. People actually having a say and effecting real change in the USA and Britain was too much for the marxist-globalist establishment.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
September 30, 2021 8:30 pm

I can imagine that perps with long-term training and involvement with crowd agitation through the KKK, Weather Underground, Black Panthers, Occupy, BLM, G20 window smashers, etc, slipped on a hoodie and hitched onto the Antifa wagon… and kept straight on to doing dirty deeds for the DNC.

Cassie of Sydney
September 30, 2021 8:30 pm

“About 200 or so Antifa were there, including of course John Sullivan – who got into trouble trying to sell the footage he had taken.”

Didn’t Sullivan sell some of his “footage” to “our ABC”? So, our taxes have helped fund an Antifa operative on January 6.

Boambee John
Boambee John
September 30, 2021 8:32 pm

FlyingPigssays:
September 30, 2021 at 6:22 pm
So called NGO’s and Not-for-Profit schemozzles are filth.

The senior managers of NGOs and not for profits seem to do very well financially, while often relying on volunteer or poorly paid workers.

If they were not mostly havens of lefty thought, they might have come under pressure because of this exploitation.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
September 30, 2021 8:35 pm

It’s not beyond reasonable speculation that the FBI tipped them off to which private bandwidth would not be being listened too, as well. That is, if they were not out-and-out FBI black hats.

Muddy
Muddy
September 30, 2021 8:35 pm

At the risk of sounding like a conspiracy theorist, I’m wondering if Antefa themselves were used as a convenient cover? (Again, I don’t have anything to support that, but if there were 226 operatives there and actively involved, that’s a sh!tload of planning, training, and co-ordination to undertake. Maybe some of our ex military officers could tell us how easy it is to lead that number of people?).

calli
calli
September 30, 2021 8:41 pm

Roger says:
September 30, 2021 at 7:22 pm

Blessèd are the cheese graters. For they shall inherit the mornay.

But you knew that.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 30, 2021 8:42 pm

Is Antifa really that well trained and co-ordinated though?

Muddy – Yep. They’ve even been getting weapons training from someone. Hamas or ISIS or whatnot. It’s been reported but I can’t recall who right now. They’d worked out that the Right has about 300 million firearms in the US and the Left needed to counter that somehow. It was amusing.

There’ve been plenty of observations and video of the coordinators at the various riots in the right wing blogosphere. No interest from the Feds for some mysterious reason.

As for confirmation of Sullivan’s brother’s allegations from a week or so after the Capitol protest – it’s fun that this stuff is even coming out given the Dems’ stacked partisan Congressional investigation is going on right now.

Zipster
Zipster
September 30, 2021 8:42 pm
shatterzzz
September 30, 2021 8:45 pm

The right of pensioners and the unemployed to receive social security via cheque is not a top ten issue for me.
The major reason for pushback was people with a cash job collecting the dole.

Simple explanation .. time & money .. processing, printing ect all required time & lotza staff so the money side was computerised cut out lotza paper and easily cross-checked with other gummint depts .. especially ATO ….. Forerunner for computerizing claims instead of being physically lodged ..
allows CentreLink to spend more time chasing, what it claims are, cheats than bothering with legitimate customers who have the cheek to physically turn up at offices expecting service ..
No deep thinking plan involved ( after all, it is gummint!) just a bit of keeping the claimants out of sight .. if not mind .. LOL!

Boambee John
Boambee John
September 30, 2021 8:50 pm

Dotsays:
September 30, 2021 at 7:43 pm
Boambee asked me what the LDP would say as our “Forgotten People” speech.

Thanks. I avoid Farcebook where possible, but will try to find him elsewhere.

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
September 30, 2021 8:52 pm

“The senior managers of NGOs and not for profits seem to do very well financially, while often relying on volunteer or poorly paid workers.

If they were not mostly havens of lefty thought, they might have come under pressure because of this exploitation.”
******
I think it was Salvatore who posted something about his experiences with a NFP/NGO which he hid under the discreet pseudonym of “Ockspham”.
If he’a around he may wish to corroborate.

Cassie of Sydney
September 30, 2021 8:55 pm

“Is Antifa really that well trained and co-ordinated though?”

Yes….read Andy Ngo’s book Unmasked. Ngo is an expert on Antifa in the USA, he’s been chronicling them for five years and he’s been warning about their activities for at least three years…they ramped up the violence after Trump was elected and it hasn’t subsided. Antifa in the USA are very well organised, they’re very cashed up and they are very well armed. Also….critically…the MSM in the US run cover for them and their violence.

Boambee John
Boambee John
September 30, 2021 8:56 pm

Muddysays:
September 30, 2021 at 8:22 pm
Is Antifa really that well trained and co-ordinated though? I wouldn’t be surprised if a number of them were roped in to act as extras, but I’m sceptical they were the cadre. I don’t have any contradictory evidence, but

From recent reporting, the FBI had informers within the Proud Boys. As a large organisation, they would have the skills and people to run the “insurrection”.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
September 30, 2021 8:57 pm

Jones just letting the blibbersek speak absolute crap. FMD why even give this airhead a platform. I thought scomo was vacuous till I saw her on the spot tonight…

Indolent
Indolent
September 30, 2021 9:13 pm

Tanya Davies said that she would be on Alan Jones’ show. Did anyone see her?

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 30, 2021 9:14 pm

Fat Tony, 6.35:

Apologies. Was down the rubbidy.

COAT.

C*** Of A Thing. As in:

‘I know you believe Szubanski to be an A Grade COAT, but after going through the relevant material I have formed a view that Gretel Killeen is an even bigger COAT.’

Indolent
Indolent
September 30, 2021 9:16 pm
Muddy
Muddy
September 30, 2021 9:20 pm

There’ve been plenty of observations and video of the coordinators at the various riots in the right wing blogosphere.

Not by any means the same as the complexity that seems to have underlied the Capitol operation.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Border Closure

Timothy Neilsonsays:
September 30, 2021 at 8:52 pm

“The senior managers of NGOs and not for profits seem to do very well financially, while often relying on volunteer or poorly paid workers.
If they were not mostly havens of lefty thought, they might have come under pressure because of this exploitation.”

******

I think it was Salvatore who posted something about his experiences with a NFP/NGO which he hid under the discreet pseudonym of “Ockspham”.
If he’a around he may wish to corroborate.

I confirm. Your recollection is correct.

Zipster
Zipster
September 30, 2021 9:24 pm
Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
September 30, 2021 9:28 pm

Mate tells me that NGO’s and non profit charities are exempt for fbt but discharged veterans have to pay it on their war service home loans. If true says it all about Government priorities…

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 30, 2021 9:32 pm

Not by any means the same as the complexity that seems to have underlied the Capitol operation.

Practice, Muddy.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 30, 2021 9:34 pm

Paul Dimattina absolutely feeding it to Andrews on PML.

vlad redux
vlad redux
September 30, 2021 9:35 pm

As long as we’re asking for Cat slang to be explained, what’s HOP time?

Harlequin Decline
September 30, 2021 9:36 pm

The Spectator of 7 August has a review of the medieval Anatomy of Melancholy by Robert Burton. that had me reaching for the dictionary-

There is an extravagantly comic burst of misogyny in the chapter ‘Symptoms of Love’, where Burton lists some of the things a man who is truly in love may overlook in a woman:

Though she be…wrinkled, pimpled, pale, red, yellow, tanned, tallow-faced, have a swollen juggler’s platter face or a thin, lean, chitty face… gubber-tushed, rotten teeth, black, uneven, brown teeth, beetle-browed, a witch’s beard, her breath stink all over the room… her dugs like two double jugs, or else no dugs… she stoops, is lame, splay-footed, as slender in the middle as a cow in the waist, gouty legs, her ankles hang over her shoes, a vast virago, or an ugly tit, a slug, a fat fustilugs, a truss, a long lean raw-bone, a skeleton, a sneaker and to thy judgement looks like a mard in a lantern… if he love her once, he admires her for all this.

When I looked up chitty faced and gubber tushed I immediately thought of St Jacinta.

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
September 30, 2021 9:36 pm

HOP time

Heads On Pikes time

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 30, 2021 9:39 pm

Knuckle Draggersays:

September 30, 2021 at 9:34 pm

Paul Dimattina absolutely feeding it to Andrews on PML.

The attacks on the hospitality industry and gym industry by that COAT (see?) Andrews are solely because Dimattina and Tony Doherty dared to publicly question His Omnipotence.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 30, 2021 9:42 pm

Andrews must have been teased at school, something fierce.

Just fucking look at him go.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 30, 2021 9:46 pm

When I looked up chitty faced and gubber tushed I immediately thought of St Jacinta.

That’s a large Scotch, and a new keyboard you owe me.

Muddy
Muddy
September 30, 2021 9:48 pm

I think I’ll keep my scepticism, Bruce. I don’t doubt that Antefa has a lot of resources behind it, but I suspect they are more mercenaries rather than drivers.

I’m heading off to bed. Remember, folks: We need you. All of you. So stick around.

Zipster
Zipster
September 30, 2021 9:52 pm

Chinese envoy: Elimination of nuclear weapons must begin with abolition of Cold War mentality
elimination of nuclear weapons must begin with abolition of communism

hzhousewife
hzhousewife
September 30, 2021 9:54 pm

Friend has booked a months trip to LA to visit mother-in-law leaving 25 Dec, paid premium for top rate economy seats, seems not to be expecting any trouble leaving Aus and returning. Will be interesting to see how that all goes.

vlad redux
vlad redux
September 30, 2021 9:55 pm

Thanks, Tim.

There should be a sidebar link to the Cat glossary of any and all private slang etc, JC’s nicknames for people, etc etc.

srr
srr
September 30, 2021 9:55 pm

Bruce of Newcastlesays:
September 30, 2021 at 6:42 pm
That reminds me. Bruce, did you hear the news of a “silent” blue “explosion” in Geelong last night(?), that knocked out electricity supplies?

Srr – That’s probably the Chinese rocket that was seen over Eastern Australia. Doubtful that a blackout would be caused by it, but if there was an unrelated blackout you can imagine people conflating them.

That was Monday, and not like what what happened in Geelong on Tuesday.

It’s was the ‘silent’ blue ‘explosion’ followed by a blackout that also happened in another region years ago, that no one’s offered a reasonable explanation for that interests those who’ve witnessed it.

Sorry, it wasn’t behind a paywall this morning when I was told about it, so I can’t find more detail on it yet –

‘Not a meteor’: Experts baffled at Geelong flying object
A meteor has been ruled out as the unidentified flying object that preceded a bright flash and blackout in Geelong on Tuesday night, as the mystery deepens.

https://www.geelongadvertiser.com.au/subscribe/news/1/?sourceCode=GAWEB_WRE170_a&dest=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.geelongadvertiser.com.au%2Fnews%2Fgeelong%2Fflying-object-captured-on-geelong-cctv-camera-before-flash-and-power-outage-sparking-ufo-chatter%2Fnews-story%2Feae99141b1455492be5aa30c974bae75&memtype=anonymous&mode=premium

vlad redux
vlad redux
September 30, 2021 9:58 pm

It’s an odd fact of DanAn’s personal history that he didn’t grow up (entirely) in Wangaratta. The family moved there when he was ~11. His father was only 22 (if that) when he was born; that’s unusual as well. I’d say there’s a lot of personal history there that we never hear about – and probably never will.

One question answered, though, what are Dan’s personal intellectual interests? What sort of books does he like to read?

Answer: none.

Apparently his only interest outside politics is golf.

P
P
September 30, 2021 9:59 pm

In present times I oft revert to those years in the ’50s when I sang with gusto those old hymns which today come to me so often.
It wasn’t an old country church, just a suburban one. Those years, esp during my teens, have stayed with me throughout my life. I’m now 81yrs.
Shall we gather at the River
In the sweet bye and bye
Leaning, leaning, leaning on the everlasting arms

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6xZ3k7yHNM

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
September 30, 2021 9:59 pm

hzh- vaxxed and certified thusly?
I know that in WA, a prole currently cannot leave or enter without written permission from the police- which is a vax passport by proxy.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 30, 2021 10:03 pm

I’m heading off to bed. Remember, folks: We need you. All of you. So stick around.

Well said, Muddy.

Bruce in WA, you O.K?

P
P
September 30, 2021 10:06 pm

And at this time I’m still not vaxed. Know today as a pariah.

JC
JC
September 30, 2021 10:07 pm

He was fine until you asked, Ronery. Leave him alone and stop pestering people with that smarmy bullshit.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 30, 2021 10:08 pm

A meteor has been ruled out as the unidentified flying object that preceded a bright flash and blackout in Geelong on Tuesday night, as the mystery deepens.

Mini nukes. In plain sight.

JC
JC
September 30, 2021 10:09 pm
srr
srr
September 30, 2021 10:10 pm

Old blokesays:
September 30, 2021 at 7:34 pm

srr says:
September 30, 2021 at 5:45 pm

That reminds me. Bruce, did you hear the news of a “silent” blue “explosion” in Geelong last night(?), that knocked out electricity supplies?

srr, is there anything on the internet about that? I asked Mr. Google and he hasn’t heard about it.

I’m not surprised. The person who watched the video this morning also couldn’t find it tonight. Mr Google buried it deep & now it’s also paywalled –

‘Not a meteor’: Experts baffled at Geelong flying object
A meteor has been ruled out as the unidentified flying object that preceded a bright flash and blackout in Geelong on Tuesday night, as the mystery deepens.

https://www.geelongadvertiser.com.au/subscribe/news/1/?sourceCode=GAWEB_WRE170_a&dest=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.geelongadvertiser.com.au%2Fnews%2Fgeelong%2Fflying-object-captured-on-geelong-cctv-camera-before-flash-and-power-outage-sparking-ufo-chatter%2Fnews-story%2Feae99141b1455492be5aa30c974bae75&memtype=anonymous&mode=premium

Pedro the Loafer
Pedro the Loafer
September 30, 2021 10:10 pm

The WA wheat harvest is nearly ready and once again there are no interstate workers or backpackers available to do the heavy lifting. Situation is critical, and despite offering record wages, very few unemployed want to actually work for a living.

Wheatgrowers in most of the vast WA wheatbelt are expecting record yields and rising prices but there is an underlying fear that some crops will be left to rot due to lack of workers.

Looks like I will be out on the chaser bin again this year, despite advancing age and limited skills.

Character building, sez The Boss.

FlyingPigs
FlyingPigs
September 30, 2021 10:17 pm

fucking glad to see the useless fkg cities will starve to death because of their fkg uselessness.

JC
JC
September 30, 2021 10:19 pm

Pedro,

Think of the bright side losing some of the harvest. At least there will be less wars in the middle east.

Why?

Less (extremely) high gluten Australian wheat consumed. Consequently much less bloating and constipation, which therefore much less angry bloated and constipated men.

My theory is that a chart will clearly show Australian wheat exports to the Mideast gaining ground towards the late 60s and extremism correlating with increasing Australian wheat consumption in the region.

Rex Anger agrees with me. 🙂

FlyingPigs
FlyingPigs
September 30, 2021 10:22 pm

what do you think bawwie???

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 30, 2021 10:24 pm

Wheatgrowers in most of the vast WA wheatbelt are expecting record yields and rising prices

Umm, five degrees below zero of frost clobbered the wheatbelt fairly badly, some lost the lot.

FlyingPigs
FlyingPigs
September 30, 2021 10:25 pm

jc

what drugs are you fkn consuming???

Pedro the Loafer
Pedro the Loafer
September 30, 2021 10:26 pm

30+ million tonnes of highly toxic gluten laden WA wheat should do wonders for culling the herd.

Bloated and constipated Arabs are not allowed across the Australia (or WA) border, so minimal risk there.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
September 30, 2021 10:31 pm

Rex Anger agrees with me. ?

I do?

I just traffick the stuff, mate.

It’s not for me to wax lyrical about the stuff.

And anyway, just because your innards are more finely tuned and hypersensitive than a Japanese precision machine tool, doesn’t mean that everyone else’s is.

Arabs are just angry people. You could feed them solely on a diet of bromide-fortified hommus, ketamine, tofu and kale. And you’d not do a single thing to calm the place down.

A good dose of Revival, on the other hand…

FlyingPigs
FlyingPigs
September 30, 2021 10:32 pm

it is cold that will really kill people and these cunts want to stop real energy???

Fkn Morisson should be tied in a sinking boat with fkhead Malturd.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
September 30, 2021 10:32 pm

‘Not a meteor’: Experts baffled at Geelong flying object
A meteor has been ruled out as the unidentified flying object that preceded a bright flash and blackout in Geelong on Tuesday night, as the mystery deepens.

Most likely some teenager’s drone blew up hitting an electricity wire and knocked out the system.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
September 30, 2021 10:33 pm

30+ million tonnes of highly toxic gluten laden WA wheat should do wonders for culling the herd.

We shall lavash our bounteous harvests upon the misbegotten, the desperate and the merely hungry…

FlyingPigs
FlyingPigs
September 30, 2021 10:35 pm

what you say Bawwie????

Thefrollickingmole
Thefrollickingmole
September 30, 2021 10:35 pm

But surely feeding them enormous amounts of liquid rape juice cancels out the death gluten?

Or do they bind up then explosively and unpredictably void?

Speaking of unflushable person sized turds caught about 30 seconds or less of Phatty Phillip phellating itself.
Worst interviewer ever.
He can’t let a interviewee get more than 15 seconds in before he wuffles and snuffles like a pre orgasmic walrus to ejaculate some flaccid “wit” or anecdotage over the poor victim.

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