Open Thread – Mon 4 Oct 2021


The Little Tower of Babel, Pieter Bruegel the Elder, 1563

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Dot
Dot
October 4, 2021 2:00 pm

First und furst.

MatrixTransform
October 4, 2021 2:04 pm

uncut too

Mak Siccar
Mak Siccar
October 4, 2021 2:07 pm

Turd.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 4, 2021 2:09 pm

You Need to Hear a Story About Chickens Before Vaccine Mandates Go Any Further

Epsilon, Gamma, and Iota appear to burn out in the presence of the highly transmissible Delta variant. If you go to the Nextstrain site, you can hit play and watch the evolution of the virus over time. The pie charts on the map are the total share of each variant for the entire pandemic. When you watch the time lapse, you can see Delta has completely taken over the U.S. as the circle turns completely teal. However, you see Mu and Lambda hold their own, even with Delta in the mix. And these variants are headed to the U.S. over our open southern border.

Marek’s disease in chickens was the first time the phenomenon of a leaky vaccine, and its effect on viral mutation, demonstrated that the vaccinated can be dangerous to the unvaccinated. According to the author summary of the 2015 study:

There is a theoretical expectation that some types of vaccines could prompt the evolution of more virulent (“hotter”) pathogens. This idea follows from the notion that natural selection removes pathogen strains that are so “hot” that they kill their hosts and, therefore, themselves. Vaccines that let the hosts survive but do not prevent the spread of the pathogen relax this selection, allowing the evolution of hotter pathogens to occur. This type of vaccine is often called a leaky vaccine. When vaccines prevent transmission, as is the case for nearly all vaccines used in humans, this type of evolution towards increased virulence is blocked. But when vaccines leak, allowing at least some pathogen transmission, they could create the ecological conditions that would allow hot strains to emerge and persist. This theory proved highly controversial when it was first proposed over a decade ago, but here we report experiments with Marek’s disease virus in poultry that show that modern commercial leaky vaccines can have precisely this effect: they allow the onward transmission of strains otherwise too lethal to persist. Thus, the use of leaky vaccines can facilitate the evolution of pathogen strains that put unvaccinated hosts at greater risk of severe disease. The future challenge is to identify whether there are other types of vaccines used in animals and humans that might also generate these evolutionary risks.

Censored doctors and researchers started warning about the potential for this phenomenon when breakthrough cases in Israel began to rise. Some commenters raised it in the public comment period during the FDA hearing on booster shots. It may be part of the reason the experts did not recommend boosters for everyone. Right now, for all but the most vulnerable, the current vaccines seem to prevent severe illness and death. We also have monoclonal antibodies in our pocket to help those whose symptoms progress.

Some researchers you never see on CNN are convinced that the COVID-19 vaccines are “leaky” and are worried about the risks of a third dose. Others are insistent that the recovered, pre- or post-vaccine, should not receive a booster. But it is imperative to understand that we are not experiencing a pandemic of the unvaccinated. And the unvaccinated are almost certainly not producing the current array of variants.

Watch Dr. Ryan Cole explain the current state of the pandemic:

Gab
Gab
October 4, 2021 2:13 pm

QANTAS staff rebelling against the dictator CEO.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0I7fLQSYVg

Miss Anthropist
Miss Anthropist
October 4, 2021 2:15 pm

I identify as being first. Among equals.

Gab
Gab
October 4, 2021 2:18 pm

Victorian Human Rights Charter that states a person must not be “subjected to medical or scientific experimentation or treatment without his or her full, free and informed consent”.

https://www.reignitedemocracyaustralia.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/VIC-Charter-of-Human-Rights-06-43aa014-authorised.pdf

Zafiro
Zafiro
October 4, 2021 2:21 pm
MatrixTransform
October 4, 2021 2:24 pm

must not be “subjected to medical or scientific experimentation or treatment without his or her full, free and informed consent”

yeah … they refused to give me the VX

they kept asking if I they had my consent

seemed to be a bit of a sticking point (excuse the pun)

MatrixTransform
October 4, 2021 2:25 pm

coffee with full cream milk for breakfast
a whole packet of Cheds for lunch
un-vaxxed

… still not dead yet

Rabz
Rabz
October 4, 2021 2:34 pm

What is going on with that preposterous clown show goat rodeo of a NSW government?

At this rate they’ll all have resigned by next Friday.

Rabz
October 4, 2021 2:36 pm

Oops, wrong email address ….

MatrixTransform
October 4, 2021 2:40 pm

nice.
a thunderstorm
now I’ll have to go get some pinot noir to coax the missus out from under the couch

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 4, 2021 2:48 pm

At this rate they’ll all have resigned by next Friday.

Can the State be put “under administration”, in the same way as any other bankrupt business…

calli
calli
October 4, 2021 2:52 pm

We can only wish, Rabz.

calli
calli
October 4, 2021 2:53 pm

I must be getting soft. That Qantas video made me cry.

Maniac
Maniac
October 4, 2021 2:58 pm

Still Sunday evening here in the States. Looks like our Commie bastard of a President is pulling the trigger on the whole “no jab, no job” thing in a few months. It’s an executive order, so I don’t think it’ll be halted. I’d love to see tens of millions of truebloods sticking to their guns and causing economic backlash by calling his bluff, but I doubt it.

I wish Novavax would get a move-on.

struth
struth
October 4, 2021 3:10 pm

Children do not die from Covid.
People in their thousands have died and have suffered serious side effects from these jabs with no long term studies done and total indemnity for anyone in the chain of supply, down to the one doing the jabbing.
We know you can be jabbed and still get and transmit covid (these jabs don’t work at all).
But for those still holding out to the bullshit excuse that risking children’s lives putting this untested crap into them, is worth it to save their parents, that’s a complete reversal of the natural world.
Any species that does this, any species, any civilisation will perish.
And rightly so.
If we are that sick, we deserve what is coming.

struth
struth
October 4, 2021 3:11 pm

I absolutely oppose being forced to take a medical procedure.
I detest the weak minds and the historically ignorant telling me to get the jab for the good of others.
Besides it making absolutely no sense, as that to me is the jabbed telling me the vaccine doesn’t work, (which it doesn’t) and it’s indemnified and untested, and has directly killed thousands already, History shows us quite clearly, if you submit to tyranny you get more tyranny and millions will be killed.
So if you really care about your fellow man and your fellow countrymen and families, RESIST, HOLD THE LINE, and help save millions.
This has gone far enough.
If they get the passports in, and your jab helps them get the critical “majority” that they are now going to turn against the minority (I’ll probably need a little yellow star) you’ve played straight into these tyrants hands.
But don’t give me the bullshit that you did it for others, as what you actually did was help sentence millions to suffer under tyranny, jabbed or un-jabbed.
Never submit to tyranny .
Other people’s lives depend on you resisting and fighting back.

MatrixTransform
October 4, 2021 3:13 pm

Looks like our Commie bastard of a President is pulling the trigger

McCarthy was right and just a little too early

Tom
Tom
October 4, 2021 3:20 pm

Present!

Gab
Gab
October 4, 2021 3:25 pm

Victorian Human Rights Charter that states a person must not be “subjected to medical or scientific experimentation or treatment without his or her full, free and informed consent”

https://www.reignitedemocracyaustralia.com.au/vic-human-rights/?fbclid=IwAR1p3OhzWoHT5NhSvtsKCMFGAQ2CCmBUXN2TCgLca86_Pj9om4nSPfmKfR0

Gab
Gab
October 4, 2021 3:25 pm
Chris
Chris
October 4, 2021 3:28 pm

OK, we are all agreed then.

But will the plan be leaked? Who are the agents provocateur among us?

Chris
Chris
October 4, 2021 3:28 pm

Oooh, damn. Now they know we suspect them.

Lee
Lee
October 4, 2021 3:39 pm

McCarthy was right and just a little too early

Absolutely true.
McCarthy has been vilified for decades, but he was almost entirely concerned about, and investigating, communist infiltration of the State Department (which it was; a fact confirmed by the Venona documents released many years later), he was not involved with HUAAC, nor was he chasing down alleged communists in Hollywood or elsewhere, as his enemies claim.

Chris
Chris
October 4, 2021 3:43 pm

Present!

ARMS!

cuckoo
cuckoo
October 4, 2021 3:48 pm

Regarding Things No-one is Talking About, it only just occurred to me that rubber gloves, which everyone was being made to wear last year, are no longer a thing this year. My own workplace mandated them when dealing with the public; we even had to sit through ‘training’ on how to put them on and take them off, seriously.
Is this a tacit admission that you don’t catch covid by touching things?

Baba
Baba
October 4, 2021 3:54 pm

Gabsays:
October 4, 2021 at 3:25 pm
Templates for letters

https://winningvictoriaback.org.au/notices/

That comment should have had a trigger warning for you know who.

rugbyskier
rugbyskier
October 4, 2021 3:55 pm

cuckoo, apparently the original variant could remain active on surfaces whereas the delta variant is more transmissible through droplets in the air. That’s what they’re saying anyway.

Pogria
Pogria
October 4, 2021 3:56 pm

Struth,
an excellent comment I saw a few days ago. Unfortunately I cannot remember where, so sorry for stealing it;

“The Jab is the only product in history where the people who DO NOT use it, are being blamed for its failure.”

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 4, 2021 3:57 pm

Makka, 1.55 and on the OOT:

‘Wah wah wah yes but’

Still waiting. One example, please, of just how much a cop fanboi I am.

Produce it, otherwise it’s just impotent ranting. No evidence base.

Harrumph harrumph harrumph.
E-i-e-i-o, said the Mak Attack.

lotocoti
lotocoti
October 4, 2021 4:15 pm

Is this a tacit admission that you don’t catch covid by touching things?

That was the original.
Delta, however, lurks in ambush clusters, hunting Unpeople.
You’re supposed to blow extra fine gypsum everywhere to spot its web of tripwires.

Makka
Makka
October 4, 2021 4:15 pm

I’m guessing it was for lack of intelligence that the cops rejected you, Knucklehead. A pretty low bar to fail at, I must say. But possibly the catalyst for your fan-boi cop fetish. There’s always security guard work . You get to wear the blue uniform with the little badges and the radio belt, drive the car with flashing lights and radio. “Car 54, where are you?”. Lol.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 4, 2021 4:17 pm

The Vatican has raised concerns about AUKUS, Australia’s defence collaboration with the US and Britain, especially the agreement to help the Australian Navy acquire a fleet of eight nuclear-powered submarines.

Secretary of State Pietro Parolin, the main architect of the Vatican’s secretive agreement with the Chinese Communist Party government, spoke to journalists on September 23, during a meeting of the European’s People’s Party in Rome. He is second behind Pope Francis in the church hierarchy.

“The Holy See is against rearmament,’’ Cardinal Parolin said. “All the efforts that have been made and are being made by the Vatican are to eliminate nuclear weapons because they are not the way to maintain peace and security in the world. They create even more dangers for peace and even more conflict.’’

FUCK OFF.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 4, 2021 4:18 pm

Person who says nothing about Chinese military expansion gets on hind legs when someone other than China does it.
The Vatican is a pack of cucks.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 4, 2021 4:24 pm

Dr John Campbell – Goa, home medical kit with ivermectin, zinc and vitamin D

Chief Minister Dr. Pramod Sawant in the presence of Minister for Health Shri

https://www.thehindu.com/news/nationa

https://www.goa.gov.in/wp-content/upl

Pulse Oximeter

Digital Thermometer

Paracetamol tablets (15)

Vitamin C tablets (30)

Multivitamin tablets with Zinc (30)

Vitamin D3 tablets (2 packs)

Ivermectin 12mg tablets (10)

Doxycycline 100mg tablets (10)

Three-ply face masks (5)

N-95 Masks (2)

Sanitizer (100ml)

Alcohol based Wipes (1 box with 20 plies)

Gloves (2 pairs)

UP
Population 204 million

https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-

https://www.thehindu.com/news/nationa

No fresh Covid cases in UP’s 59 districts

Last 24 hours, 191,446 samples tested

33 samples tested positive

Test Positivity Rate, lower than 0.01

Active caseload

Currently 187

April, 310,783

Factors to explain success

Targeted testing of specific groups

Early detection

Contact tracing

Isolation

Free and timely provision of medicine kits and treatment to the rural populace

$2.65 per person

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 4, 2021 4:24 pm

Chrissays:

October 4, 2021 at 3:28 pm

OK, we are all agreed then.

But will the plan be leaked? Who are the agents provocateur among us?

Apparently that is me.

Gab
Gab
October 4, 2021 4:26 pm

Teachers launch Victorian challenge to vaccine mandate

Paywalled at the luciferian Aged.

lotocoti
lotocoti
October 4, 2021 4:26 pm

Tell me, Cardinal Pangolin, did Italy’s nuclear power plants mean it had nuclear weapons?

Delta A
Delta A
October 4, 2021 4:28 pm

Too good to leave on the old thread:

Gabsays:
October 4, 2021 at 11:47 am
Anyone in fear of losing their job, you need to watch this:

https://twitter.com/reignitedemaust/status/1444075550637576197

Top Ender
Top Ender
October 4, 2021 4:31 pm

Teacher launches Victorian challenge to vaccine mandate

By Tammy Mills

The first Victorian legal challenge to the COVID-19 vaccine mandate for teachers has been issued in court.

Self-represented casual relief teacher Belinda Cetnar and horticulturalist Jack Cetnar have gone to the Supreme Court to argue the no jab, no work policy is not legally or ethically justified, undermines the rule of law and is inconsistent with their human rights.

It follows legal challenges to mandates in NSW and Queensland.

The Victorian government announced almost a fortnight ago that vaccines would be compulsory for all staff at schools and early childhood centres starting October 18, and Premier Daniel Andrews last week widened the mandate to all authorised workers.

In documents submitted to the Supreme Court, the Cetnars questioned the health advice the decision was based on, arguing the mandates were discriminatory.

“The blanket mandate approach does not consider the human rights of those it is imposed on and the defendants have failed to consider less restrictive means reasonably available to achieve the purpose for which they seek to achieve,” their statement of claim read.

The Cetnars also said people with religious objections would be discriminated against, and that had not been considered when the mandate was announced.

They listed various human rights provisions and laws they argued the policy contravened, including the Constitution, the Biosecurity Act, the Fair Work Act and the Nuremberg Code.

The Cetnars, who say they could lose their employment over the mandate, declined to comment when contacted by The Age.

Though The Age was unable to establish which schools Ms Cetnar, a registered teacher, most recently worked at, Mr Cetnar is a horticulturalist for Crest Education Ltd, an educational precinct in Melbourne’s south-east that includes Hillcrest Christian College and Rivercrest Christian College.

Lysander
Lysander
October 4, 2021 4:32 pm

I don’t think WA even has a Charter of Human Rights?

Gab
Gab
October 4, 2021 4:35 pm

If they think they can ”mandate” one medical procedure (vax) for the ”common good”, you can bet they will in future mandate other medical procedures.
Hold the line.

Zipster
Zipster
October 4, 2021 4:35 pm

PLA expands drills near Taiwan island only one day after setting new recordOnly one day after the Chinese People’s Liberation Army (PLA) dispatched 38 warplanes near the island of Taiwan for exercise on National Day, breaking the previous record set in June, it again refreshed this record on Saturday, sending a total of 39 aircraft of different types near the island during both day and night, according to defense authorities on the island.

Lysander
Lysander
October 4, 2021 4:37 pm

ABC logic:

Joe Biden, Catholic President… yay!

Dominic Perrotet, Catholic Premier….nay!

calli
calli
October 4, 2021 4:37 pm

Though The Age was unable to establish which schools Ms Cetnar, a registered teacher, most recently worked at, Mr Cetnar is a horticulturalist for Crest Education Ltd, an educational precinct in Melbourne’s south-east that includes Hillcrest Christian College and Rivercrest Christian College.

Nice.

Fancy ginning up a mob Lambe-Leste style, do we?

JC
JC
October 4, 2021 4:44 pm

Perrotet

Pronounced “Perow tett”?

Zipster
Zipster
October 4, 2021 4:45 pm

Hong Kong down more than 2% amid China Evergrande trading halt

rickw
rickw
October 4, 2021 4:46 pm

Is this not a good thing (in a way)?
This means that the corporate legal advice is, don’t do anything without statutory or regulatory cover.
Which Dan doesn’t want to do because it will be on shaky legal grounds.
He wanted to bluff employers into jumping in feet first.
FMD, they have basically admitted in NSW that vax mandates for employment are a minefield.

Sancho, agree that this is positive. Also positive that they did me the courtesy of letting me know that they can’t say anything at this point.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 4, 2021 4:48 pm

Fintwit is pretty funny.
One punter said Evergrande isn’t China’s Lehman Brothers moment, it’s only a Bear Stearns type of event.

Dot
Dot
October 4, 2021 4:50 pm

Perro-tey.

As in Pair au tay.

Just like Joe Deer-tay.

Usually spelt, Joseph Dirt.

Damienski
Damienski
October 4, 2021 4:51 pm

I was at the Kulin Bush Races in the Western Australian wheatbelt with 4000 others over the weekend. Fabulous event, great crowd, a mix of local types (weather-beaten countenances and gnarled hands) and their city cousins. (Apologies to those in Lockdanistan and neighbouring fiefdoms. Our overlords have graciously permitted us some “freedom”).

As I was wandering to the bar I espied a tall sixty-ish gent, well turned out, obviously not a local. Fashionable haircut, horn rimmed glasses. Wearing a black windcheater with one word embroidered in white on the right breast. “VAXXED”.

What a wanker. Any chance he doesn’t listen to Radio National?

Lysander
Lysander
October 4, 2021 4:51 pm

Pronounced “Perow tett”?

Given he’s from Epping, surely it must be “perro-tay?”

JC
JC
October 4, 2021 4:51 pm

Bern

The financial fallout from the collapse would be the foreign currency based part of the debt that was issued offshore (outside China). That’s not huge in today’s dollar denominations, I think.

Cassie of Sydney
October 4, 2021 4:52 pm

“FUCK OFF.”

Agree Bern.

I suppose the current papacy would have insisted that the Knights of Malta lay down their arms against the Ottomans during the Great Siege of Malta in 1565.

Whatever happened to muscular fighting Christianity?

JC
JC
October 4, 2021 4:54 pm

I don’t think the Communist regime will allow the domestic side of the debt to go to hell, but there would be a decent chance, they fuck the foreigners… those holding the foreign debt. They missed the foreign debt interest payment but not the domestic one. They’re such fucking arseholes.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 4, 2021 4:55 pm

Evergrande is the collateral damage that from China’s manufactured slow down.
That is, since April this year they have been tapping the breaks.
There’s always someone with too much Evergrande debt on the books.
It’ll cause some shorter term liquidity issues, but not the end of the world.
It’s already blowing up some emerging market debt funds.

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
October 4, 2021 4:56 pm

We know you can be jabbed and still get and transmit covid (these jabs don’t work at all).

Struth.
Mater has previously shown how the mish mash of strangely presented evidence and confusing statistics has helped obliterate any real education of the population.
I’d be very interested to see any studies which document the exact amount of difference in transmission rates between vaxxed people and an unvaxxed people.
The main claim to fame for vaccines now is they minimise symptoms. Evidence of that is needed too.

JC
JC
October 4, 2021 4:56 pm

I wonder if Ivy Fund Management holds any Evergrande bonds?

Lysander
Lysander
October 4, 2021 4:56 pm

Tell me, Cardinal Pangolin, did Italy’s nuclear power plants mean it had nuclear weapons?

I’m hardly going to defend the Vatican on this one but the Vatican is not Italy. Secondly, does Iran’s access to nuclear energy mean it has/can develop nuclear weapons?

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 4, 2021 4:57 pm

They missed the foreign debt interest payment but not the domestic one.

I don’t know why people invest in emerging market debt.
For the risk you take on, you have to stay on the equity side of the equation.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 4, 2021 4:59 pm

Brakes, not breaks.
I swear since Pfizer second jab, my spelling has turned to shit.

Lysander
Lysander
October 4, 2021 5:00 pm

I swear since Pfizer second jab, my spelling has turned to shit.

Yet another advirse effect!

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
October 4, 2021 5:00 pm

Whatever happened to muscular fighting Christianity?

It went back into the shadows, Underground Church-style.

Where it stubbornly flourishes and spreads against every attempt to eradicate it. Like Patterson’s Curse in a sandstone rock face. It picks up in a crack or two, sets seed and then a short time afterwards, the entire verge and then nearby paddocks are a sea of purple every Spring.

Remember, Christians all but brought down Roman society not by sheer force of arms, but by being so incredibly different that people were either drawn to their message and changed character, and this example in turn led them to Believe. Or they were so enraged in rebellion that they overreached and ruined themselves…

miltonf
miltonf
October 4, 2021 5:01 pm

“FUCK OFF.”

Agree also. Frankie is a steaming old commie turd.

rosie
rosie
October 4, 2021 5:01 pm
Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
October 4, 2021 5:02 pm

“But for those still holding out to the bullshit excuse that risking children’s lives putting this untested crap into them, is worth it to save their parents, that’s a complete reversal of the natural world.”
******
The false god Molech has reappeared with a vengeance in our society.
He has been claiming victims right up to “partial birth” and beyond where an abortion “fails”, under the name “choice”. He’s now also stalking even older victims under the name “safety”.
We’re not yet throwing newborn babies into a fire under a stone idol, but if a Chief Health Officer announced that that would combat a new “variant” you can bet that there’d be a cheer squad for it.

Bar Beach Swimmer
October 4, 2021 5:02 pm

From the OT:

Bar Beach Swimmersays:
October 4, 2021 at 4:52 pm
calli:
If introducing potentially harmful substances into a child’s body is considered child abuse, then that action should be stopped. In this case, however, the parents are in lockstep with the State and get a free pass

If parents are in lockstep with the State, it must be because they think it a good thing, but why is that? In almost every aspect of life and for decades, Australian adults have been encouraged to listen to the State’s advice. A quick review of just one government website – NSW Health – illustrates the way in which the individual’s decision making can be nudged in certain ways without it would seem much pushback and just by offering up some information easily accessed. By now there are a couple of generations who’ve been brought up to take a look on-line whenever there is a question to answer.

While I’m not suggesting that all government information should be viewed as being suspect – I’m sure that information on quitting smoking, environmental health and ending HIV, and alcohol and other drug decisions – some of the subjects covered by NSW Health under Awareness and prevention and Improving your health, – do provide some interesting information, as do the areas of immunisation, emergency health, sexual health, healthy built environments, oral health and ending HIV. You could say the gamut of health matters, no doubt all with links, can be found conveniently for all who need it. In fact, why go anywhere else if the subject matter appears to be straightforward?

But this is the problem: the State is not only the author of what is being “nudged,” it is the chief “nudger” as well.

Greg Hunt held a press conference earlier today spruiking the numbers of jabbed Australians. As he was talking I was thinking why isn’t he concerned about the many adverse reactions and possible/probable deaths from the vaccines; how could he continue to encourage people to get jabbed, including the 12+ age group, of which he said his own son was “immunised” last week?

So what we’re seeing is that the huge State investment in information provision and “nudging” has actually paid off: if the State provides all the detail in one place why go anywhere else? We’re at a stage where most people believe what the State tells them. (It’s a bit like watching 60 Minutes once a week when it was “a thing” – or in the “Old Days” checking out 4Corners – and thinking you’ve caught up with current affairs).

And in the case of immunisation, the country has had a robust (meaning widespread and very well supported) system for generations – who wouldn’t support it? For Hunt, like for so many other parents, if he didn’t actually believe what the health authorities were telling him about the safety and efficacy of the vaccines, then his decision about his own son’s health would be unbelievably shocking.

Zafiro
Zafiro
October 4, 2021 5:03 pm

Whatever happened to muscular fighting Christianity?

Like every other institution it has been marched through.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
October 4, 2021 5:05 pm

Secondly, does Iran’s access to nuclear energy mean it has/can develop nuclear weapons?

It helps.

Depending on your reactor design, you can get away with some pretty low-percentage uranium isotopes for your fuel rods.

But others (like fast-breeders) need a higher degree of enrichment, and also generate plutonium.

H-bombs use plutonium.

So, by the choice of reactor design and the various public statements and private actions it has engaged in since 1979, it is inevitable that Iran either has some capacity, or seeks to develop it.

It is not yet as significant a threat as Oraq’s Osirak reactor was, as parts of Iran are not yet glowing craters with the smoke trails of Israeli jets disappearing over the horizon. But the vigilance must be maintained, as Tehran only needs to get it right once. It’s neighbours must get it right every time…

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 4, 2021 5:06 pm

Greg Hunt is desperate to be liked & he dreams of being accepted.
That’s why he completed a degree in climate change.

rosie
rosie
October 4, 2021 5:07 pm

I care as much about the Vatican’s view on Aukus as I do about Adam Bandt’s.
Taiwan backs Aukus paywall at smh

Zafiro
Zafiro
October 4, 2021 5:07 pm

includes Hillcrest Christian College and Rivercrest Christian College.

Would it rate a mention if he was a groundskeeper at Dandenong Tech etc?

Lysander
Lysander
October 4, 2021 5:09 pm

It’s a good point Beach Bar.

The State is judge and jury in vax “race.” Call Chief Health Officers the Fifth Estate, separate them from government and make them fund themselves and then provide advice.

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
October 4, 2021 5:10 pm

As in Pair au tay.

The Slim Dustys amongst us better get going with poetry and songs using the rhyming of NSW and Qld Premiers.

Baba
Baba
October 4, 2021 5:11 pm

Bern

The Vatican is a pack of cucks.

Your spelling is usually faultless. What’s up?

Cassie of Sydney
October 4, 2021 5:11 pm

I can’t understand Pope Frank’s logic….Christianity is dying in Western Europe, due to secularism, feminism, progressive politics, breakdown of family, low birthrate and immigration of a certain religious ideology. Eastern Europe is trying to mount a defence against all of these things…and yet Pope Frank goes to Hungary and lectures Victor Orban….who is trying to rejuvenate Christianity and to protect Hungarian Christian culture and the Jewish community in Hungary is safe and growing, unlike in Western Europe…hmm….wonder why?

I suppose, as someone said above, Pope Frank really is a communist.

Gab
Gab
October 4, 2021 5:11 pm

Whatever happened to muscular fighting Christianity?

Vatican II happened and appeasement to all things of the world and conforming to the world has continued since then.

Cassie of Sydney
October 4, 2021 5:12 pm

I liked Pope Benedict…he emanated holiness, wisdom and knowledge. And I’m not even a Christian.

Lysander
Lysander
October 4, 2021 5:17 pm

I suppose, as someone said above, Pope Frank really is a communist.

Cassie, I thought so too. But then I noticed stark differences between what he writes and what the media say he writes. I’ve come to the conclusion that, yes, he’s a Leftist for sure; but I don’t think a far Leftist.

Vatican II happened and appeasement to all things of the world and conforming to the world has continued since then.

Utter tosh Gab. People were leaving the Church in droves before VII due to latin masses, strange practices (priest facing altar not people) and a whole heap of shite that had been picked up over the years. VII, is about returning to initial teachings, small Christian communities. It’s not about numbers at all. It’s about faith.

Lysander
Lysander
October 4, 2021 5:18 pm

And I might add Gab.

You think the Great John Paul II really helped the Church “appease” to the world?

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 4, 2021 5:18 pm

‘the catalyst for your fan-boi cop fetish’

Mak Daddy,

You got me.

I rooted Christine Nixon in an alley behind a fish and chip shop once.

Turned me for the blue, it did.

You have an _egg-level talent. Harrumph harrumph.

Cassie of Sydney
October 4, 2021 5:19 pm

“and appeasement to all things of the world and conforming to the world has continued since then.”

Thanks Gab…no different to progressive reform Judaism.

Gab
Gab
October 4, 2021 5:23 pm

People were leaving the Church in droves before VII due to latin masses,

LOL

Calm down, pet. Look at the Pew research since Vat II for the number of Catholics and religious leaving the Church.

Gab
Gab
October 4, 2021 5:25 pm

JP II? The one who placed a statue of Buddha on top of the tabernacle on the altar in Italy? The one who kissed the Koran? That JP II? Pfft.

Old bloke
Old bloke
October 4, 2021 5:26 pm

John H. says:
October 4, 2021 at 5:09 pm

cohenitesays:
October 4, 2021 at 4:23 pm
On the shit which are EVs:

Others disagree …
https://www.virta.global/blog/myth-buster-electric-vehicles-will-overload-the-power-grid
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2IKCdnzl5k&t=206s

Some years ago I was watching an engineer from Western Power (the Perth electricity provider) talking with a TV host about future power supply issues facing Perth.

The host asked the engineer what his greatest fear was, was it more and more large screen TVs or was it more air-conditioning units being installed?

The engineer pondered the question for a few moments and said that neither of those two were their real fear, what they feared was the widespread adoption of electric vehicles. The host was a bit taken aback, he was probably a greenie, and he spluttered why are electric vehicles a problem?

The engineer calmly pointed out the situation. He said that if the workforce returned home from a day at work and they all plugged their cars into the charger at around the same time, the grid would melt. Basically, he said that the present grid would have to be duplicated, more poles and wires down every street, to cater for large scale electric vehicle adoption.

The host didn’t ask where the power was going to come from.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 4, 2021 5:27 pm

It’s quite funny how Steve Harker has gotten caught up in the Pandora Papers tax avoidance news.
When he was at Morgan Stanley he spear headed a “corporations should pay their fair share” initiative.
Which then in turn got him the gig at the Future Fund because he was viewed as acceptable by Gillard & Swan.
What a total hypocrite.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
October 4, 2021 5:27 pm

I suppose, as someone said above, Pope Frank really is a communist.

South America’s Liberation Theology was all about Marxist capture and subversion of the massive hold the Church had on society there.

That it happened to gel beautifully with Jesuit thinking and teaching, and the revolutionary headiness of the Perón era in Argentina (Francis was intimately involved in his administration) was icing on the cake.

You wanna see a skinsuit made by SJW entryism and infiltration tactics over a generation or two (or even three)? I give you the post-John Paul II Catholic Church. Though I have no doubt the intriguing was already going on during his papcy.

Joseph Ratzenberger had not the stomach nor the remaining energy for the fight.

Eyrie
Eyrie
October 4, 2021 5:28 pm

“All the efforts that have been made and are being made by the Vatican are to eliminate nuclear weapons because they are not the way to maintain peace and security in the world. They create even more dangers for peace and even more conflict.’’

Bullshit, nuclear weapons arguably hold the level of violence down to something manageable because when you get down to it nobody wants their country to disappear.

As for Iran, unless they are faking everyone out, they have gone down the uranium enrichment path for a nuke. Makes building the weapon much easier but you need more U235 than you would Pu239. The later is harder to make a bomb with as you need an implosion type design with very tight mechanical and timing constraints. Gun types don’t work with Pu, or didn’t used to. Nowadays with better explosives and improved gun design it might just be possible.

Dot
Dot
October 4, 2021 5:32 pm

“Lenticular lens implosion” seems technically easy and compact.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 4, 2021 5:35 pm

Pope Frankie is a weak, conniving weasel.
He is not an intellect.
He is not a leader.
A pure politician who would do anything to be liked by the blue ticks on twitter.

Eyrie
Eyrie
October 4, 2021 5:37 pm

“Lenticular lens implosion” seems technically easy and compact.

The devil is in the details and getting it to work. The Iranians seem to have gone the “build a nuclear reactor for power and then use that power to enrich uranium to build a weapon” route. Although as I said this may be a fakeout while they quietly separate Pu239 from fuel rods.
Don’t know what good it will do them. Last I heard the Israelis had 200 boosted fission weapons of up to 500kT yield each.

rosie
rosie
October 4, 2021 5:39 pm

I’m confident the church, even in Europe will survive.
It survived the massacres and confiscations of the French revolution, of the Carlinist wars in Spain, the massacres of the Spanish civil war, world warII communism etc etc
I have seen many young and vibrant parishes in Europe, even new religious orders with many young brothers and sisters, in Barcelona, Florence, Mont San Michel even the church of Saint Gervais in Paris now has a new religious order installed.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 4, 2021 5:42 pm

Western Australians, Big Brother knows best!

Roger Cook warns that reopening WA’s borders could mean reintroduction of restrictions
Charlotte EltonThe West Australian
Mon, 4 October 2021 2:05PM
Comments

Health Minister Roger Cook has declined to set a date on when WA’s border will reopen, warning that lifting travel restrictions could mean a return to wearing masks and intrastate borders for communities with low jab rates.

WA is set to hit 70 per cent full-vaccination about mid-November and 80 per cent in December.

Premier Mark McGowan has previously suggested that the border to the Eastern States could ease six to eight weeks after WA hits an 80-90 per cent vaccination rate.

Today, Mr Cook declined to set a date on reopening — but predicted the State would reach the necessary vaccination levels “towards the end of the year”.

“Push will come to shove at some point in the future,” he said.

“In the future, we will need to have a situation whereby … our borders play less of a role in terms of our public safety measures.

“At that time, we want to make sure we have very high vaccination rates. But that time will come, towards the end of the year, as the Premier said.”

Mr Cook warned that the border reopening would mean the reintroduction of restrictions.

“We need to have a public conversation about what it looks like when those borders come down completely,” he said.

“It means in Western Australia, that we’ll be looking again towards masks playing a role in our lives, we will need to look again to potentially limiting the number of people in particular venues and clubs, restaurants, large venues and so on.

“So it will be a challenging time.”

Nearly half (48.45 per cent) of West Australians have received both COVID-19 jabs, while 66.62 per cent have had at least one dose.

Bar Beach Swimmer
October 4, 2021 5:43 pm

That vid from the Qantas workforce was both and uplifting.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 4, 2021 5:43 pm

Top Endersays:

October 4, 2021 at 4:31 pm

Teacher launches Victorian challenge to vaccine mandate

This is good.
Very good.
What are the options for the gummint?
1. Settle out of court for reinstatement without a vax and get them to sign an NDA? If these people turn up to work the following day everyone knows who won. The queue will be massive for similar complainants.
2. Settle out of court and pay compo (again with an NDA)?
They can’t pay compo hoping the damage will be limited. What is the remaining life earnings of someone aged 30? And if they think it is l limited to a few of the 15%-ish unvaxxed, well, no. Because boosters. And forget NDAs. This would be around legal circles before lunch.
3. Fight in court. Excellent. Discovery by the truckload of all da sciency stuff underpinning this.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
October 4, 2021 5:44 pm

. The Iranians seem to have gone the “build a nuclear reactor for power and then use that power to enrich uranium to build a weapon”

The spent fuel is also an easy source of material for a ‘Dirty Bomb.’

After all, if you are unable to scour the Infidels from the face of Allah’s earth with Tinned Sunshine, you can at least render their homelands unsuitable for life in perpetuity*…

*At least by human standards of time reckoning, anyway.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 4, 2021 5:44 pm

Anyone know who Pavey is and what sort of politics she espouses?

Melinda Pavey launches bid to become next leader of NSW Nationals after John Barilaro’s resignation

The NSW Nationals will meet to elect a new leader on Wednesday after John Barilaro’s resignation, with Water Minister Melinda Pavey confirming her candidacy.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 4, 2021 5:47 pm

3. Fight in court. Excellent. Discovery by the truckload of all da sciency stuff underpinning this.

That Barnes legal chap said that he’s already had COVID related cases settled because companies/states/counties don’t want to go through the discovery process.

Zipster
Zipster
October 4, 2021 5:51 pm

NEW YORK, Sept 30 (Reuters) – Accounting and consulting firm PwC told Reuters on Thursday it will allow all its 40,000 U.S. client services employees to work virtually and live anywhere they want in perpetuity, making it one of the biggest employers to embrace permanent remote work.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 4, 2021 5:51 pm

Aye nye.
JB Hifi is joining the no jab no job push.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
October 4, 2021 5:52 pm

Hey KD
Looks like a deal with the Suns will see Nick Daicos home with the Pies.

I remember watching his old man slot a goal in the 2nd semi final at the MCG against the Bombers in 1990.
Right behind the kick and you couldn’t see daylight between the posts.
Like a pro-golfer, he faded the kick, no bananas around the corner.
Freakish.

Bar Beach Swimmer
October 4, 2021 5:52 pm

That NSW female mounted police officer settled out of court. But the other cases are still there (yay!) – tomorrow is day 3 of evidence.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 4, 2021 5:53 pm

The spent fuel is also an easy source of material for a ‘Dirty Bomb.’

That’s a very important point since all rocket interception systems blow up the rocket before it lands. But blowing up a ballistic missile tipped with a tonne or two of high level waste is just going to spread the stuff further.

Iran has been building rockets like there’s no tomorrow. Which Twelvers pretty much hope for.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 4, 2021 5:55 pm

That Barnes legal chap said that he’s already had COVID related cases settled because companies/states/counties don’t want to go through the discovery process.

But settled how?
If they settle for reinstatement with no jab it is game over.
If they settle for sit-down money that will cost shitloads.
Eventually they will run up against someone who simply won’t settle.

miltonf
miltonf
October 4, 2021 5:56 pm

I liked Pope Benedict…he emanated holiness, wisdom and knowledge. And I’m not even a Christian.

Which is why they got rid of him. JPII was pretty amazing too. We didn’t know how lucky we were with those two.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 4, 2021 5:57 pm

Dunno Panzer, he was only getting into it then the Tom Brady game started so turn Barnes off.
It sounds like Barnes has an enormous team of affiliates working for him in multiple US states & counties.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 4, 2021 5:58 pm

Dan Andrews “freedom day”.
FMD, it doesn’t sound like it’s much of a freedom day at all.

Thefrollickingmole
Thefrollickingmole
October 4, 2021 5:58 pm

Aha, we finally know why KD was so triggered by pre orgasmic walrus noises the other night.

Christine Nixon in skintight catsuit after chuck out time…

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 4, 2021 5:59 pm

Christine Nixon in skintight catsuit after chuck out time…

Dover, please ban Mole.

calli
calli
October 4, 2021 5:59 pm

Pavey is the NSW Minister for Water. If the proposals for desal in the Hunter are anything to go by she’s a closet Green.

Just as aluminium is solid electricity, she’s planning for liquid electricity to pop out of the local taps. All run by magical electricity, of course. The stuff generated by unicorn flatulence.

calli
calli
October 4, 2021 6:01 pm

Dan Andrews “freedom day”.

Planning another slip and trip? That’ll do it.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
October 4, 2021 6:06 pm

Aha, we finally know why KD was so triggered by pre orgasmic walrus noises the other night.

Dammit man, this should have come with a warning.

It’s socially frowned upon to laugh out loud in a shopping centre when only you know the context…

Bar Beach Swimmer
October 4, 2021 6:06 pm

132andBushsays:
October 4, 2021 at 2:05 pm

+1

Vaccine Passports (Monday, Monday)

Verse 1:
Vaccine Passports, we’ve lost our way
Vaccine Passports, who would’ve thought we’d be here like this today
Rona’s warning gave the suborning of what was to be
That Vaccine Passports would be the end of liberty

Chorus:
Every other day, every other day
Every other day the jacks are out there, yeah
But no matter what they’ll do, But no matter what they’ll do,
They’ll find us all standing firm.

Verse 2:
Vaccine Passports, can’t trust the state,
Vaccine Passports you must know they’re all reprobates,
So ‘Rona’s state minions, used every infringement to pillory,
But you will know that we will stand ‘til we’re all free.

Verse 3:
Vaccine Passports, won’t stop the spread,
Vaccine Passports, it’s not the virus we should dread,
But lockdowns and dictates and government mandates should never be,
And this is not nor ever can be democracy

calli
calli
October 4, 2021 6:06 pm

The Hunter has ample water. A couple more dams should satisfy the worriers and help with hideous flooding that occurs with monotonous regularity.

But, no! Let’s do a stupid shiny green thing! Because reasons.

Rabz
October 4, 2021 6:15 pm

It’s time we had a full and frank discussion about the (pound)#metoo movement, peoples.

Heard on JJJ nooze this morning that the Ratalphabet* has denounced the Thicke (and by association, various others) as a sexual abuser of her good self.

We essayed this back in 2013 on the ol’ Cat, when “that video**” was released.

Is this a desperate quest for relevance, or what? Give it away, girl. Don’t put your family through this. As for the Thicke, his marriage collapsed shortly afterwards.

If you’re struggling to comprehend the ridiculousness of the allegations, feel free to watch the video.

* Tried to find a bikini picture of her that wasn’t off the scale and couldn’t.

**Trigger warning: Next to naked young women.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 4, 2021 6:16 pm

Christine Nixon in skintight catsuit after chuck out time…

By definition, everything she wore was “skintight”.

Arky
October 4, 2021 6:18 pm

Christine Nixon

..
Mmmmmmmmmm.
Crackling.

miltonf
miltonf
October 4, 2021 6:21 pm

JP II? The one who placed a statue of Buddha on top of the tabernacle on the altar in Italy? The one who kissed the Koran? That JP II? Pfft.

OK I stand corrected- now that you mention it I do recall that JPII was a bit thick with Islamists back in ’94.

Gab
Gab
October 4, 2021 6:21 pm

Funnily enough, the only portion of the Church that has been showing great growth, especially among the yoof and young families, are those who attended the ”Latin Mass”. The Usus Antiquior, the Mass of the Ages the same Mass the great Saints worshipped at or offered up.

And the only area of growth in terms of converts, reverts, ordinations and religious, and is the area Pope Francis is currently shutting down because, as he said, he hates anything of the Tradition.

Gab
Gab
October 4, 2021 6:22 pm

The Mass of the Ages. This is what Francis is attempting to kill off.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdbwNMYKhw0 starts around 1 minute.

Bar Beach Swimmer
October 4, 2021 6:23 pm

Denis Shanahan on Credlin pointing out that Pileofsh1t (h/t Diogenes) said she wants more money for QLD’s health system before the borders can be opened because of the risk of more cases. Well, this is all down to Morrison – he has behaved like a gutless wonder on letting the premiers get away with everything over the last 20 months, including on the borders. He’s hanged the nation to dry, now he’s getting what we deserves.

Shanahan went on to say that the Newspoll shows lots of people parking their vote with the smaller parties – disaffected conservatives, libertarians and some from the left. ‘The politics of the pandemic is eroding the Government’s support.’

Exactly!

Thefrollickingmole
Thefrollickingmole
October 4, 2021 6:24 pm

Zan how.
I was thinking Michelle Pfifers cat woman suit version.
Just with lot more cottage cheese flesh squeezing between the stitching.

It was probably Christeens whiskers that reminded him so strongly of the walrus.
https://www.behance.net/gallery/54569801/Lilian-the-Sexy-Walrus

Mater
October 4, 2021 6:24 pm

LOL.
I hear that having told their underage workers that they need the vaccine to continue employment, McDonalds have very quickly discovered they they will struggle to man (or woman) the tills and hot plates, in the not to distant future.

They are looking (hoping) for the government to do a backflip.

The youngest generation (employed in fast food) might save us yet. The second greatest generation?

rickw
rickw
October 4, 2021 6:24 pm

Hi Gab,

You posted a link to the Human Rights declaration on the OT.

Can you please repost?

calli
calli
October 4, 2021 6:27 pm

Fresh from the barrage of 7 Nightly Propaganda (viewed in the front room so I don’t have to watch it)…another call to submit to the needle.

This sh*t is killing me.

rickw
rickw
October 4, 2021 6:27 pm

They are looking (hoping) for the government to do a backflip.

The fucking arseholes need to step up.

If American Senators are concerned at what is happening in Australia, then they need to look at the conduct of American companies in Australia.

Rabz
October 4, 2021 6:30 pm

Christine Nixon in skintight catsuit after chuck out time…

Sacré bleu! 🙁

Rabz
October 4, 2021 6:31 pm

calli – resist.

Gab
Gab
October 4, 2021 6:32 pm

RickW scroll up to 3:25pm

Arky
October 4, 2021 6:32 pm

What would you prefer?
Christine Nixon done roast Chinese style, with the thin slices, or western style with the crackling and apple sauce?
I guess it depends on the cut.

Indolent
Indolent
October 4, 2021 6:33 pm

For Hunt, like for so many other parents, if he didn’t actually believe what the health authorities were telling him about the safety and efficacy of the vaccines, then his decision about his own son’s health would be unbelievably shocking.

Call my sceptical but, again, I don’t believe for a moment that his son was given anything but saline. Remember his background. Deception and trickery built in.

Thefrollickingmole
Thefrollickingmole
October 4, 2021 6:34 pm
Thefrollickingmole
Thefrollickingmole
October 4, 2021 6:36 pm

Arky

I’ve been told dugong tastes like a cross between pork and prawn.
Would walrus be the same?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 4, 2021 6:37 pm

Farmer Gezsays:

October 4, 2021 at 5:52 pm

Hey KD
Looks like a deal with the Suns will see Nick Daicos home with the Pies.

Really?
Is this a priority right now?
?

Arky
October 4, 2021 6:37 pm

Would walrus be the same?

..
I only know the Antarctic explorers wouldn’t touch it.

JC
JC
October 4, 2021 6:38 pm

Sobering

The worldwide energy crunch could push oil prices above $100 a barrel for the first time in years and trigger a global economic crisis, Bank of America warned on Friday.

“[O]il prices could spike and lead to a second round of inflationary pressures around the world,” analysts including Francisco Blanch wrote in a note. “Put differently, we may just be one storm away from the next macro hurricane.”

What would it mean in terms of petrol prices in Australia, assuming no change in the exchange rate and all else being equal.

About $2.40 a liter!

calli
calli
October 4, 2021 6:38 pm

You buggers! Now you’ve made me laugh. Well done.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
October 4, 2021 6:39 pm

Home page on the NAB online banking has replaced NAB with JAB.

Propaganda with interest and without balance.

JC
JC
October 4, 2021 6:40 pm

Home page on the NAB online banking has replaced NAB with JAB.

I saw that. JAB and the ANZenca are out wokest banks.

duncanm
duncanm
October 4, 2021 6:42 pm

Old blokesays:
October 4, 2021 at 5:26 pm

On EV’s – just look at the energy consumption numbers

Per Annum. 2018/19 by sector

Road Transport : 1,231 PJ – about a 55/45 split diesel/petrol
Electricity Supply: 1,591 PJ
Residential: 461 PJ

Now petrol transport is pretty much all private. Commercial road transport uses diesel (as does uch private these days). So 45% of 1231 = 494 PJ

There’s more energy being consumed by private cars than there is all forms of residential energy (electricity, gas, oil)

Lee
Lee
October 4, 2021 6:42 pm

Well, this is all down to Morrison – he has behaved like a gutless wonder on letting the premiers get away with everything over the last 20 months, including on the borders. He’s hanged the nation to dry, now he’s getting what we deserves.

He’s lost my vote and any respect I had for him.
Same with, I suspect, hundreds of thousands (at least) other very disaffected Liberal voters.
I have zero sympathy for the weak, spineless POS who sold out his own base to appease the left.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 4, 2021 6:44 pm

This sh*t is killing me.

Don’t watch it.
Seriously, it is just covid-porn bullshit, and it will drive you mad.
I go to SBS Food to avoid it.
Or hit the kill switch.

JC
JC
October 4, 2021 6:45 pm

Duncanm

It’s not realistic to look at things that way. By far, the most energy being used is in commercial use dwarfing all else. In a way, that’s also a form of private consumption because the energy is being used to satisfy end users .. consumers.

Roger
Roger
October 4, 2021 6:47 pm

…who sold out his own base to appease the left.

We always seem to end up at this point with the Liberals.

They might want to look at what’s happened to the CDU’s vote in Germany as Merkel has led them to the small “l” liberal centre where the votes supposedly are. Down to c. 19% of the vote.

Tom
Tom
October 4, 2021 6:48 pm

Calli,

Like you, I watched the 6pm news on the Seven network until last week (when a mate with whom I shared dinner most evenings moved to the other side of Victoria).

To say that 7 News has become state media for the Victorian government understates its bias. It was unwatchable – and was usually a day behind what I had already learned from the Cat.

I take it you are still going cold turkey. Good girl. The TV news no longer tells you anything you didn’t already know.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
October 4, 2021 6:51 pm

Sancho Panzer says:
October 4, 2021 at 6:37 pm
Farmer Gezsays:

October 4, 2021 at 5:52 pm

Hey KD
Looks like a deal with the Suns will see Nick Daicos home with the Pies.
Really?
Is this a priority right now?

All the Christine Nixon talk is making me feel a bit queasy.

Megan
Megan
October 4, 2021 6:53 pm

‘The politics of the pandemic is eroding the Government’s support.’

So not everyone is a pompom twirling cheerleader for the drongoes currently screwing the country over.
Took the MSM a while to catch up with reality.

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
October 4, 2021 6:53 pm

Bignose Bergoglio is not my Pope – Benedict is Il Papa

Megan
Megan
October 4, 2021 6:55 pm

All the Christine Nixon talk is making me feel a bit queasy.

As it should. * Insert vomit emoji here*

jupes
jupes
October 4, 2021 6:56 pm

The TV news no longer tells you anything you didn’t already know.

If you watch enough of it, it will make you dumber.

Bar Beach Swimmer
October 4, 2021 6:57 pm

I saw that. JAB and the ANZenca are out wokest banks

+1

JC, both have Melb Head Offices.

Old Lefty
Old Lefty
October 4, 2021 6:58 pm

Utter tosh Gab. People were leaving the Church in droves before VII due to latin masses, strange practices (priest facing altar not people) and a whole heap of shite that had been picked up over the years. VII, is about returning to initial teachings, small Christian communities. It’s not about numbers at all. It’s about faith.

You’re spouting third-hand pseudo-scholarly tosh form the 60s, Lysander my friend. Did the New Testament church really sit around on beanbags strumming guitars and digging Pete Seeger?

I rarely touch the Silly Moaning Hemorrhoid – it’s bad for my blood pressure – but a neighbour showed me today’s edition which drips with nasty anti-Christian bile in it letters pages and opinion columns over Perrotet and Stokes, with Scomo’s Pentecostalism thrown in for good measure. The hypocritical scum would never, of course, publish anything remotely so vicious against Islam, Aboriginal religion or the alphabet soup of fashionable so-called genders and sexualities. If they did (at least in Yarragrad), they would probably end up in jail. But I suppose it doesn’t do to get too worked up about the SMH: as the inimitable Up the Workers once put it, only a few more circuits of the toilet bowl before it disappears forever to its rightful place down the S-bend of history.

That other intellectual and cultural colostomy bag of, by and for the lying, perjuring, sociopathic dregs of the Stalinist pervert lumpenintelligentsia at the ABC has the taxpayer’s teat to support it regardless.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 4, 2021 6:59 pm

JAB and the ANZenca are out wokest banks.

Westpac far beyond them, has been green as grass for ages.
Commbank up 5% today btw. Dunno why, but it was nice.

Megan
Megan
October 4, 2021 7:00 pm

This sh*t is killing me.

#metoo calli!

Roger
Roger
October 4, 2021 7:02 pm

The hypocritical scum would never, of course, publish anything remotely so vicious against Islam, Aboriginal religion or the alphabet soup of fashionable so-called genders and sexualities.

Setting the taboos is a means of controlling the narrative.

Zipster
Zipster
October 4, 2021 7:02 pm

Heard on JJJ nooze this morning that the Ratalphabet* has denounced the Thicke (and by association, various others) as a sexual abuser of her good self.

she is such a survivor! I don’t know how she does it. :/ sarc off

Old Lefty
Old Lefty
October 4, 2021 7:04 pm

Moreover, the extremist reactionary religious and social views the leftards and their ABC/Fairfax claque rail against in Perrotet would have seemed like plain common sense to an earlier generation of Labor leaders such as Lyons, Scullin, Forde, Chifley, McGirr, Cahill and Renshaw.

Indolent
Indolent
October 4, 2021 7:04 pm
mem
mem
October 4, 2021 7:06 pm

Why be worried about Covid and jabs? We are all going to die of heat. In the lead up to the climate fest in Glasgow the climate shrills in the media are trying to earn their brownie points with lots of scary stories. I had to laugh at this one in the Oz which warned us Aussies that the the next six months is gonna be hotta than the last six months. Oh gosh we are moving into summer after a cold winter.
Sydney and Brisbane brace for hottest weather in six months after massive storms https://www.theaustralian.com.au/breaking-news/sydney-brisbane-bracing-hottest-weather-in-six-months-just-days-after-massive-storms/news-story/c96bd835c2a74d9ec6a449fd23ae8496

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
October 4, 2021 7:06 pm

Propaganda with interest and without balance.

Sounds like a bank…

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 4, 2021 7:08 pm

Old School Conservativesays:
October 4, 2021 at 4:56 pm
We know you can be jabbed and still get and transmit covid (these jabs don’t work at all).

I’d be very interested to see any studies which document the exact amount of difference in transmission rates between vaxxed people and an unvaxxed people.

The main claim to fame for vaccines now is they minimise symptoms. Evidence of that is needed too.

We are being Conned by Thugs Goons Administration and CHO’s in Australia

There It Is – Study Finds Predominance of Antibody-Resistant SARS-CoV-2 Variants in Vaccine Breakthrough Cases in San Francisco Bay Area

The California study finds that vaccinated individuals are more susceptible to COVID variant infections than unvaccinated. Geer Vanden Bossche has been warning that vaccine antibodies would suppress natural antibody responses. The vaccine antibodies take control of the immune system and defend only against a targeted virus.

Among vaccinated individuals, a COVID variant virus is not recognized by the specialized antibodies provided by the vaccine, and the natural antibodies have been programmed to stand down.

(MedRxiv) Associations between vaccine breakthrough cases and infection by SARS coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) variants have remained largely unexplored. Here we analyzed SARS-CoV-2 whole-genome sequences and viral loads from 1,373 persons with COVID-19 from the San Francisco Bay Area from February 1 to June 30, 2021, of which 125 (9.1%) were vaccine breakthrough infections. Fully vaccinated were more likely than unvaccinated persons to be infected by variants carrying mutations associated with decreased antibody neutralization.

[…] These findings suggest that vaccine breakthrough cases are preferentially caused by circulating antibody-resistant SARS-CoV-2 variants, and that symptomatic breakthrough infections may potentially transmit COVID-19 as efficiently as unvaccinated infections. (read more)

Be careful around vaccinated people, because they can carry a more resistant form of COVID-19. Additionally, the highly specialized antibodies in the vaccine create a need for a booster for each antibody resistant variant. Israel is already on booster #2.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 4, 2021 7:10 pm

Army veteran, 80, to stand trial over Troubles death
Larisa Brown, Defence Editor
Monday October 04 2021, 12.01am BST, The Times

An army veteran who may have only months to live was due to face trial today over a Troubles-related death in Northern Ireland in 1974.

Speaking before the case, Dennis Hutchings, 80, who is receiving dialysis for kidney failure, told The Times he had waited more than six years to clear his name. He is accused of attempted murder in relation to the death of John Pat Cunningham in Co Tyrone.

The hearing will be held at Laganside Courts in Belfast three times a week instead of the usual five, to allow Hutchings to receive treatment.

Johnny Mercer, the Tory MP who quit as defence minister over the government’s handling of investigations into soldiers who served during the Troubles, will accompany him in court.

Hutchings, who struggled to talk due to his breathing, said: “Six and a half years ago they came and arrested me and charged me with attempted murder and now we are going to trial after numerous court cases. It is now starting Monday and I’m seriously ill. I’m on dialysis at this very moment and I’ve got a major problem with fluid in my lungs. The thing that is keeping me alive is this machine that I’m attached to,” he added. Asked if he was well enough to fly, he said: “I don’t know until I can get on the plane.”

A succession of Conservative ministers have spent years promising to bring in legislation to stop Northern Ireland veterans being repeatedly investigated.

Brandon Lewis, the Northern Ireland secretary, has said he will introduce a bill before the end of the autumn to deal with legacy issues. His proposal for an effective amnesty has caused outrage in Northern Ireland and is yet to be signed off by No 10. There are concerns that the plans will be pushed back again until Christmas.

On Saturday McCue Jury & Partners, Hutchings’s lawyers, issued a press release saying they were taking his claim that veterans had been subject to discriminatory treatment in breach of the Human Rights Act to the European Court of Human Rights.

Mercer said he was “deeply ashamed” that there remained no sign of any legislation. He said: “At the end of the day Dennis is in court on Monday. Nothing I can say would demonstrate their abject failures more than that.”

Roger
Roger
October 4, 2021 7:10 pm

Moreover, the extremist reactionary religious and social views the leftards and their ABC/Fairfax claque rail against in Perrotet would have seemed like plain common sense to an earlier generation of Labor leaders such as Lyons, Scullin, Forde, Chifley, McGirr, Cahill and Renshaw.

To borrow Kim Beazley Snr’s term of c. half a century ago, Old Lefty, middle class perverts have taken over the Labor Party.

Rabz
October 4, 2021 7:11 pm

Whatever happened to muscular fighting Christianity?

Tenuously existing in hibernation, awaiting the next great existential crisis, which isn’t quite among us yet.

When you see me clad in this, Cass, you’ll know it has. 🙂

Pedro the Loafer
Pedro the Loafer
October 4, 2021 7:14 pm

I don’t think WA even has a Charter of Human Rights?

Thankful for that.

rickw
rickw
October 4, 2021 7:14 pm

Thanks Gab!

Arky
October 4, 2021 7:15 pm

An army veteran who may have only months to live was due to face trial today over a Troubles-related death in Northern Ireland in 1974.

..
You can get charged over killing an Irishman?
When did they bring that in?

calli
calli
October 4, 2021 7:20 pm

I didn’t watch it. I refuse to watch it.

Such is the rancid, mouth-breathing propaganda that the one I love forsaking all others is keen, nay desperate, for me to give in to the needle.

Every day the pressure takes a different form. Thank your lucky stars that you either live alone or with someone who shares your views.

Rabz
October 4, 2021 7:21 pm

Anyone know who Pavey is and what sort of politics she espouses?

A purveyor of National (Agrarian) Socialism.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 4, 2021 7:22 pm

Old School Conservativesays:
October 4, 2021 at 4:56 pm
We know you can be jabbed and still get and transmit covid (these jabs don’t work at all).

I’d be very interested to see any studies which document the exact amount of difference in transmission rates between vaxxed people and an unvaxxed people.

Senator Ron Johnson Shares COVID-19 Data from Public Health England, Refutes “Pandemic of The Unvaccinated” Narrative

Senator Ron Johnson (R-Wisconsin) used his time on the Senate floor to discuss recently released COVID-19 data from Public Health England in the U.K. [DATA pdf Here]

Ironically, Senator Johnson is forced to use the Senate floor to share the information in an effort to stop government and Big Tech censorship of the discussion. Unlike the rest of the nation, the House and Senate chamber rules create a free speech zone that prohibits anyone from censoring congressional debate and discussion.

Senator Johnson outlines data from the U.K. clearly showing the vaccines offer no protection from the claimed Delta variant. COVID-19 is carried and shed by vaccinated individuals. The subsequent rate of COVID-19 hospitalization and COVID-19 death appears unaffected by the vaccine itself. WATCH:

Cassie of Sydney
October 4, 2021 7:27 pm

Old Leftysays:
October 4, 2021 at 6:58 pm”

Great comment and 100% true.

rosie
rosie
October 4, 2021 7:27 pm
Eyrie
Eyrie
October 4, 2021 7:29 pm

It’s not realistic to look at things that way. By far, the most energy being used is in commercial use dwarfing all else. In a way, that’s also a form of private consumption because the energy is being used to satisfy end users .. consumers.

It is if you are estimating the power/energy requirement for charging electric cars at home.
I can see that they won’t be allowed to do that and you’ll have to go to a charging station.

Another question is – if cars are all electric, what are they going to do with the part of the barrel of oil that makes petrol? Heavy trucks seem to be resistant to electrification and electric jets (or props) are a fantasy so you are still going to need diesel and jet fuel (very similar things really).

Rabz
October 4, 2021 7:29 pm

Old Leftysays:
October 4, 2021 at 6:58 pm

An absolute tour de force, Squire. Magnificent.

calli
calli
October 4, 2021 7:30 pm

That other intellectual and cultural colostomy bag of, by and for the lying, perjuring, sociopathic dregs of the Stalinist pervert lumpenintelligentsia at the ABC has the taxpayer’s teat to support it regardless.

A thing of beauty.

John Constantine would be proud of that. All that’s missing is…comrades.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
October 4, 2021 7:32 pm

You can get charged over killing an Irishman?
When did they bring that in?

About the same time the IRA’s squaddie- and proddy-killers were legitimised by the Good Friday Agreement…

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
October 4, 2021 7:34 pm

Another question is – if cars are all electric, what are they going to do with the part of the barrel of oil that makes petrol?

If they’re going to cut us steamy folk out of our coal, then I guess we can use the stuff instead.

It’s not the same though…

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 4, 2021 7:35 pm

I know where your parcel is.

I’ve got a book coming from Abebooks. I will have forgotten about it by the time it arrives. The perfect Christmas surprise- most likely June 2022.

Zipster
Zipster
October 4, 2021 7:35 pm

Trump asks Florida judge to force Twitter to restart his account

Rabz
October 4, 2021 7:36 pm

An erstwhile hollyweirdo going into bat for the 45, Prez Fatty Trump. 🙂

miltonf
miltonf
October 4, 2021 7:40 pm

From time to time a rumor goes out that the Ague will go online only or the M-F edition will be online only. These vile rags are dying but it’s taking far too long.

Rabz
October 4, 2021 7:40 pm

the ALPBC finally notices something

A “shameless lack of context”, perhaps?

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 4, 2021 7:43 pm

Heard on JJJ nooze this morning …

I think I can see the problem.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
October 4, 2021 7:44 pm

Well that was a fun day’s work.
Spray probably got washed off by 6mm rain, daylight hours. Raining now. If these October trends continue, there’ll be 150mm for the month.
And the Tongan pruners have had a jab on Friday, and now two out of ten are crook and off work. That’s a pretty heavy strike rate for the biggest people on earth.

Rabz
October 4, 2021 7:45 pm

Those vile rags are dying but it’s taking far too long

I was hoping they’d have been flushed down the great s-bend of history many moons ago.

Continuing to publish them is a vanity project beyond any comprehension. Their readership, like the ALPBC’s legendary “audience”, is basically non existent.

That useless smirking bastard Costello has a lot to answer for.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 4, 2021 7:46 pm

These vile rags are dying but it’s taking far too long.

Bring back Young Warwick and Rothwells. That should do the job.

Roger
Roger
October 4, 2021 7:47 pm

Whatever happened to muscular fighting Christianity?

It accepted a multi-million dollar confidential settlement with Rugby Australia.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 4, 2021 7:48 pm

memsays:

October 4, 2021 at 7:06 pm

Why be worried about Covid and jabs? We are all going to die of heat.

You’ve been watching the news, haven’t you?
I can tell.

srr
srr
October 4, 2021 7:49 pm

Hello, Fellow Heterosexuals

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwLiaNLlZbs

Oct 4, 2021
The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters

“Why are so many straight men having gay sex?”

miltonf
miltonf
October 4, 2021 7:49 pm

That useless smirking bastard Costello has a lot to answer for.

Too right. Another phony like hoWARd.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 4, 2021 7:50 pm

Impoverishing Rugby Australia IS doing God’s work.

Rabz
October 4, 2021 7:51 pm

Enough, Bear, I’m just trying to remain hip to da yoof. The news breaks in particular, are seriously intolerable. They have a “female” news reader whose voice would have made a very effective air raid siren in Britain in 1940.

And that’s barely scratching the surface of their idiocy and contempt for their audience. Why I subject myself to it can only be explained by the fact that I’ve turned into my old man, who used to read the SMH and watch and listen to the ALPBC so he had something to be self righteously annoyed about.

miltonf
miltonf
October 4, 2021 7:51 pm

I can understand that maybe Costello had had enough by 2007 but I was surprised he didn’t stick around and take the fight to Ruddfilth.

miltonf
miltonf
October 4, 2021 7:54 pm

The wimmin who read the news on 2GB had a voice like a chainsaw (stolen from David McNicol). Amy Mehan or sumpin.

132andBush
132andBush
October 4, 2021 7:55 pm

Christine Nixon in skintight catsuit after chuck out time

That was rather uncalled for.

Eyrie
Eyrie
October 4, 2021 7:57 pm

Jon Voight has been a righter winger for a long time. That was well done.

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