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feelthebern
feelthebern
October 11, 2021 8:08 am

Chris Mitchell also amplified Turnbull’s campaign against Abbott stripping citizenship from Australian passport holders fighting in Syria.
What Abbott should have done was simply have their passports cancelled & worry about the consequences afterwards.
Would have been a lot more productive.

rosie
rosie
October 11, 2021 8:08 am

Who is Karl?

Tom
Tom
October 11, 2021 8:09 am

LOL, smh calls Frank Luntz โ€œone of the worldโ€™s top pollstersโ€.

Laughed out loud, Bern. The SMH (like the NYT) relies on dumb tribal leftards who are totally uninformed about US politics.

There’s still a consumer market catering for stupid people, but it’s dying.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 11, 2021 8:13 am

When I first started working, Sharyn Ghidella used to do the news at 5:30am, which I’d wake up to every morning.
Watch that, then start my day after the weather at 5:55am.

Cassie of Sydney
October 11, 2021 8:13 am

“shatterzzzsays:
October 11, 2021 at 7:43 am”

Thanks…a great laugh.

Cassie of Sydney
October 11, 2021 8:15 am

“LOL, smh calls Frank Luntz โ€œone of the worldโ€™s top pollstersโ€.”

I now believe all polls are inaccurate and useless…including Newspoll.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 11, 2021 8:15 am

Back then, channel 7 didn’t even have a morning news.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
October 11, 2021 8:16 am

rosie says:
October 11, 2021 at 7:05 am
I might be wrong but am under the impression that regional Victoria will have less freedom under a passport regime, that is things you can do unvaxxed today you will be denied under a passport regime.

Correct Rosie.
The Terminus Hotel in Wycheproof is on the list. You could go there for a meal with the family last week, now you canโ€™t if youโ€™re not vaccinated or canโ€™t prove it and donโ€™t dare bring the unvaccinated seventeen year old daughter or son along. Adding the joy of pissing off vaccinated locals by making them jump through more hoops.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 11, 2021 8:17 am

From memory Gina Boon used to also do the odd 5:30am news.
Which was crazy because she also sometimes did the 10:30pm news.
She either lived close by or slept at Channel 9.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 11, 2021 8:18 am

KD earlier on morning TV.

As with social media influencers, it would not surprise me one little bit if I was to learn that these mediocre people were copping a sling from โ€˜interested partiesโ€™.

Yeah.
Fat Karl and his sidekick just got caught taking a sling from Maccas.
Looks like Karl got paid in cheeseburgers and McNuggets.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 11, 2021 8:20 am

Crikey, remember when I’d get the 6am flight from Sydney to Melbourne & channel 9 had the pre-recorded news playing on the plane.
Imagine how early that had to be put together to have the cartridge delivered to the airport.
Back when that was the way things were done.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 11, 2021 8:20 am

rosiesays:

October 11, 2021 at 8:08 am

Who is Karl?

Stefanovic.
The ever expanding balloon head on Nein brekkie TV.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 11, 2021 8:23 am

jupessays:
October 11, 2021 at 7:41 am
How the fuck can they call it โ€œFreedom Dayโ€ when the so-called โ€˜freedomsโ€™ are denied to a large portion of the population and accompanied by a thousand rules?

This.
When driving to work today various stations were thanking the government for not making people wear a mask outside anymore.
Australia is over.

srr
srr
October 11, 2021 8:24 am

BREAKING: Pfizer โ€˜Fetal Cellโ€™ Whistleblower Melissa Strickler has been TERMINATED

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1v6RUFupDg

Oct 10, 2021
Project Veritas

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 11, 2021 8:25 am

2day FM had a cross to a chap who runs a Spotlight store in western Sydney that opened at midnight.
He said he had about 200 people through the store.
He started to cry about how good it was to be allowed to open again.

Australia.
It’s over.
Dead & buried.

rosie
rosie
October 11, 2021 8:28 am

Thanks Sancho ๐Ÿ˜‰

Crossie
Crossie
October 11, 2021 8:32 am

Cassie of Sydney says:
October 11, 2021 at 8:15 am
โ€œLOL, smh calls Frank Luntz โ€œone of the worldโ€™s top pollstersโ€.โ€

I now believe all polls are inaccurate and uselessโ€ฆincluding Newspoll.

I believe the polls are just as fake as their news. Everything they do is to get a particular outcome, not to inform.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 11, 2021 8:39 am

Tulsi Gabbard has been promoted to Lieutenant Colonel.

Gilas
Gilas
October 11, 2021 8:41 am

Crossie says:
October 11, 2021 at 8:32 am

I now believe all polls are inaccurate and uselessโ€ฆincluding Newspoll.

I believe the polls are just as fake as their news. Everything they do is to get a particular outcome, not to inform.

As Scott Adams has said at nauseam about news in the US:
You are being assigned an opinion

Here’s the same, it has been even more glaringly obvious since the complete capitulation of the News rags in pushing the approved COVID narrative.

Dot
Dot
October 11, 2021 8:42 am

How the fuck can they call it โ€œFreedom Dayโ€ when the so-called โ€˜freedomsโ€™ are denied to a large portion of the population and accompanied by a thousand rules?

Exactly right jupes.

My freedom day was the day I was born.

Bushkid
Bushkid
October 11, 2021 8:56 am

Bruce of Newcastle says:
October 11, 2021 at 7:46 am
Oh ROFL!

Tim Flannery: โ€œI do feel vindicatedโ€ About Climate Change (9 Oct)

He was interviewed last week by no lesser luminary than the Fitzsimian.

Well, that got the morning started with a giggle!

Rabz
October 11, 2021 8:57 am

it would not surprise me one little bit if I was to learn that these mediocre people were copping a sling from โ€˜interested partiesโ€™

Hence the moniker,”presstitutes”.

Winston Smith
October 11, 2021 9:00 am

Feelthebern:

When driving to work today various stations were thanking the government for not making people wear a mask outside anymore.
Australia is over.

Don’t mistake the media for the market, FTB

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 11, 2021 9:01 am

Teh Paywallian media gossip column reports that Mavis is working on a Bob Hawke biography. That will be awkward when he is down on his knees โ€œinterviewingโ€ Paul Keating.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
October 11, 2021 9:07 am

Farmer Gez

Is that you funding Farmers for Climate? Ad on the TV last night, some Greenie group out of Castlemaine. What a crock. Exciting new industry? What? Industry is so 20th C. It must be regional baristas, Uber drivers in the outback or maybe Fauxboriginals protesting the soon to be extinct Blowie at a proposed mine site.

Winston Smith
October 11, 2021 9:09 am

Pfizer Asks FDA to Approve Their Covid-19 Vaccine for Children Aged 5 to 11
They’re not going to stop until we’ve all been jabbed multiple times…

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 11, 2021 9:10 am

Has anyone caught Covid on Bondi Beach (the beach not a cafe nearby) yet?

I heard the viruses wonโ€™t even watch Bondi Rescue.

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
October 11, 2021 9:11 am

Thanks for the ‘toons, Tom.
Nice review of Die Laughing The Biography of Bill Leak by Fred Pawle in Chris Mitchells article in The Oz.
It includes a massive swipe against the ABC’s cancel culture too.

Winston Smith
October 11, 2021 9:12 am

16 year old girl arrested for not wearing mask.
They literally did an entire building lockdown to try to guilt her into wearing a mask. They try scare tactics but to their surprise, nothing works. Grace just respectfully says “no” ever single time they ask her to put it on. Sheโ€™s not backing down. Courage is contagious.

Baba
Baba
October 11, 2021 9:12 am

feelthebernsays:
October 11, 2021 at 8:25 am
2day FM had a cross to a chap who runs a Spotlight store in western Sydney that opened at midnight.
He said he had about 200 people through the store.
He started to cry about how good it was to be allowed to open again.

And there are still people here who believe nano-wrigglers are harmless.

rickw
rickw
October 11, 2021 9:13 am

Just started packing up my office today in preparation for last day at work on Thursday.

No Jab no Play.

Fuck all Australian Politicians and the Police and Media that enable them.

(No word from company as to WTF they are going to do with me.)

Major Elvis Newton
Major Elvis Newton
October 11, 2021 9:14 am

Newscorpse dipshit Joe Hildebrand scribbling net zero propaganda for his Murdoch overlords in full wraparound today. Only the truly deluded like Forrest and Cannon-Brookes think their government subsidised monies can change the laws of physics.

Net zero is the new 100% vaccination target. The coercive forces behind it are exactly the same.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 11, 2021 9:17 am

Just started packing up my office today in preparation for last day at work on Thursday.

Which state Rick?
The AFR is reporting another change in vaccine rules.
Ie further loosening.
Hard for them to sack you if the NSW government is further relaxing the rules.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
October 11, 2021 9:18 am

jupessays:
October 11, 2021 at 7:41 am
How the fuck can they call it โ€œFreedom Dayโ€ when the so-called โ€˜freedomsโ€™ are denied to a large portion of the population and accompanied by a thousand rules?

Here in Sandgroperstan, the Elder Angers continue to ensure we make hay while the Nosferaflu-free (false?) sun continues to shine.

Mama Anger says ‘Delta is coming,’ not out of manufactured fear but pragmatism. Another LockDan is practically inevitable under Uncle Mark’s goverment, so we carefully stockpile our loo paper, sweets, booze and other essentials while the stockpiling is good.

If it doesn’t eventuate, at least our Christmas supplies will be ready nice and early… ๐Ÿ˜‰

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 11, 2021 9:19 am

According to twitter, American Airlines pilots are doing the same thing Southwestern are doing.
What the yanks call a “sick-out”.
Oh boy.
Biden would not be happy.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
October 11, 2021 9:21 am

And there are still people here who believe nano-wrigglers are harmless.

Nano-Wrigglers are perfectly harmless.

It’s the crazy business people get up to after inhaling them that is the problem…

#Nano-WrigglersDidNothingWrong

#NoSnortingNanos

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 11, 2021 9:22 am

According to Alex Berenson substack, the Southwestern pilots walk out is union organised privately, but publicly the unions are disavowing as it would be an illegal strike.
I wonder how long it takes the FBI to be redeployed from PTA meetings to the union halls.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 11, 2021 9:24 am

Sneakers will be impossible when he is forced to open the border. Anyone who has dealt with a 2yo will understand.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 11, 2021 9:27 am

I think Sneakers sees himself as a vengeful, Old Testament type God.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 11, 2021 9:28 am

H B Bearsays:

October 11, 2021 at 9:24 am

Sneakers will be impossible when he is forced to open the border. Anyone who has dealt with a 2yo will understand.

Imagine the “shock and awe” when (gasp) Perf records a dozen cases.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 11, 2021 9:29 am

Newsom.
Teachers are exempt from vaccine mandates.
But all students at state run schools have to vaccinated.
PS, my 12 year old child who attends private school is not vaccinated.

They don’t even pretend anymore.

Tom
Tom
October 11, 2021 9:30 am

Chris Mitchell’s Monday column has so many memorable lines, here it is in full:

The inner suburbs of Sydney, Melbourne and Canberra are a world away from mainstream Australia. They are also where many journalists who work in the national media live.
Spending all of Sydneyโ€™s latest Covid lockdown largely free on the NSW mid-north coast, I headed up to Coffs Harbour a fortnight ago to visit friends and spent a morning at The Bunker, the townโ€™s brilliant National Cartoon Gallery. The main upstairs exhibition was a selection of the best work of the late Bill Leak, this newspaperโ€™s editorial cartoonist who died on March 10, 2017.
Some of Leakโ€™s other work occasionally appears at the Manly Gallery, on Sydneyโ€™s northern beaches. Itโ€™s instructive to watch people on the so-called โ€œinsular Peninsularโ€ โ€” a million miles from Sydney spiritually, but only seven miles by ferry โ€” lap up Billโ€™s creativity, draughtsmanship, love of life and larrikin disrespect for authority. Just as they did in Coffs.
The WA audience fits that mould: 6PRโ€™s Liam Bartlett devoted 19 minutes to a September 28 interview with Fred Pawle, author of Die Laughing: The Biography of Bill Leak.
Unfortunately, the national broadcaster has not to date seen fit to talk about Billโ€™s biography, published by the Institute of Public Affairs, even though Leak had many friends at the ABC โ€” indeed, four of them are quoted in Die Laughing and have been given review copies of the book. Itโ€™s the sort of cancel culture our ABC is falling into as social media activists exert ever more pressure on an organisation they think they own.
Yet in mainstream Australia โ€” surely the ABCโ€™s target audience โ€” the concept of cancel culture is largely unknown. People still give their children Harry Potter books, celebrate Australia Day, know Captain Cook was a great explorer and may even know he was a man of the Enlightenment.
Unlike many of the youthful campaigning class beloved by the ABC and Guardian Australia, most mainstream Australians donโ€™t confuse Cook with Governor Phillip and the First Fleet. Nor do they pull statues down, hate their fathers, sons and husbands or know what toxic masculinity even means. They know there are good guys and bad guys. Ditto with women.
Itโ€™s also fair to say most mainstream Australians are not racists, even though a few may be. How can I be sure? Try the 1967 referendum for starters.
But the ABC and much of the modern moral media middle class sees our country in black and white terms. They believe they are on the high moral ground. They have become โ€œpunishersโ€ and โ€œstraightenersโ€, the criticism historian Manning Clark used to make of the conservative establishment.
In this brave new world, political virtue sits with the Greens and Laborโ€™s left. People who vote for their own economic self-interest โ€” especially Coalition parties โ€” are derided on social media as intellectually and morally inferior. Never mind the working class once voted ALP because it was the party that advocated policies to benefit workers.
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People who know nothing of the facts proclaim former NSW premier Gladys Berejiklian a sinner and Victorian Premier Dan Andrews a saint. They assert Gladys let Covid destroy NSW while Dan shut early to save his state. Never mind Victoriaโ€™s outbreak, its sixth, has grown faster than in NSW and has already reached a higher peak.
They bag new NSW Premier Dominic Perrottet as dangerous because he is a Catholic with six kids, but would never criticise a Muslim politician with a big -family.
Die Laughing explains why in such a polarised media climate, Leak โ€” a big-hearted supporter of the underdog โ€” became a sinner to the left and saint to the right.
ABC 7.30 host Leigh Sales gets it right in the book. Leak was โ€œprobably the most vehemently anti-Howard person Iโ€™d ever met,โ€ Sales tells Pawle, formerly a features journalist, surf writer and sub-editor on this newspaper.
โ€œAfter Rudd took power โ€ฆ Bill shifted in the opposite direction. Itโ€™s entirely possible he could have gone back again โ€ฆ because he was an extreme personality. He was incapable of having middle ground positions. The nature of the far-left now, and cancel culture, is that if you say something that goes against what the left believes, it is not enough for them to disagree with you. You are disavowed and you are cancelled.โ€
Sales describes a close personal friendship with Leak. ABC personalities Richard Fidler and Libbi Gorr were also mates of his. Phillip Adams was another close friend and is quoted in the book about the flaws in the Racial Discrimination Act used to undermine Leak.
Yet Leak did not want to be a campaigner for the political right. He rang me on the Tuesday afternoon before he died. The next night Barry Humphries, as Sir Les Patterson, was to launch Leakโ€™s book, Trigger Warning, a collection of political cartoons from the previous year.
Leak said to me: โ€œI am sorry you are not coming tomorrow night, mate. Truth is I am so stressed by all this 18C stuff itโ€™s making me unwell. I am an artist. I am cut out for political cartooning, not political campaigning.โ€
He died of a heart attack, less than three days later.
Once cartoonists were expected to take the mickey out of politicians and their ideas, no matter which side was in office. Now some ideas โ€” about climate, racism, ethnicity, diversity, minority group religion, feminism, homosexuality and transgender rights โ€” can never be satirised. Doing so was Leakโ€™s crime.
Says Humphries in the introduction to Die Laughing: โ€œThe New Puritanism in Australia, which endorses unfunny comedians who merely โ€˜identifyโ€™ as funny, also condemns every form of creative art it does not understand.โ€ He was referring specifically to the cartoon that brought Leak into the sights of the Human Rights Commission.
People who sought to punish Leak under section 18C of the Racial Discrimination Act for publishing a poignant cartoon about Aboriginal dads are on the side of the wowser, who according to Humphries โ€œis a traditional -Australian figure โ€” humourless, ignorant, vindictive. He is still with us, disguised as a liberal-minded upholder of the politically correctโ€.
That cartoon โ€” which showed an Aboriginal father not knowing the name of his son โ€” followed issues of violence against young Aboriginals at the Don Dale Detention Centre in Darwin, exposed by Four Corners in 2016.
Leak was moved by the Don Dale story and many of his Aboriginal friends supported his cartoon. They know Aboriginal people have agency and are not victim caricatures. But in the modern media world, only whites can damage Aboriginal people.
If you donโ€™t like your political commentary delivered by an overwrought, pursed-lipped, tut-tutting reporter with little real world experience, this book is for you. If you like journalists and cartoonists with a healthy disrespect for authority, prepared to challenge accepted pieties, even better. Because thatโ€™s who Leak was, and Fred Pawle nails it.
Visit dielaughing.org.au to order a copy of Die Laughing: The Biography of Bill Leak

Link

Dot
Dot
October 11, 2021 9:30 am

NSW:

Horses yea, horse paste, neigh!

Winston Smith
October 11, 2021 9:34 am

rickw:

Just started packing up my office today in preparation for last day at work on Thursday.

I hope you’re going to make the bastards fire you, and not just resign…

Tom
Tom
October 11, 2021 9:35 am

Bern, it’s shocking that Chris Mitchell, as editor-in-chief of the Paywallian, backed the hit job on Abbott by his then associate editor John Lyons, who should have been instantly dismissed. What Lyons did was motivated by uncontrolled personal hatred. Only someone with the mind of a child would commit it to print and his editor should have stopped it.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 11, 2021 9:37 am

From the Australian.

Skaf parole: Some dangerous criminals donโ€™t deserve freedom Jennifer Oriel

11:00PM October 10, 2021
72 Comments

The release from jail of convicted rapist Mohammed Skaf raises questions about whether Australian law is equipped to safeguard society from violent sexual offenders. Skaf was part of a gang whose members preyed on teenage girls in 2000. It was a series of brutal attacks that became known as the Sydney gang rapes. The gang members used sexual and racial hatred in the commission of their crimes. They expressed little or no remorse. Yet most have been released from jail.

Baria Skaf wanted her โ€œboysโ€ to come home. In a 2002 interview with journalist Candace Sutton, the Skaf matriarch expressed doubt about her sonsโ€™ guilt. Sutton reported that Baria Skaf had Muslim and Christian friends at the time. But court proceedings and media interviews revealed that members of the Skaf gang used violent racism against the girls they brutalised. They called one victim an โ€œAussie pigโ€. They threatened to rape a girl โ€œLeb styleโ€. Despite being born in Australia, the rapists identified as Lebanese.

An 18-year-old girl was reading a book of English literature on the train home one afternoon when she was surrounded by a group of males. According to Michael Finnane, the judge who would later preside over the rape trials, the youths were led by Mohammed Skaf. They assaulted the teenager, forced her off the train and into public toilets where they assaulted her again. One of the men phoned another group, which arrived by car. The teenage girl was taken to the Bankstown Trotting Club and raped again. A second car arrived with more men who had been told by the rapists about the victim, whom they viciously vilified by calling her โ€œa slutโ€. In the second car, the girl was brutalised three more times. The gang tortured the teenager for six hours. In a 2018 article for The Australian Financial Review, Finnane recounted that, in all, 14 males brutally violated her more than 40 times.

It is difficult to imagine the trauma, both psychological and physical, she suffered or how she managed to survive the harrowing legal process to bring the rapists to justice. Australians owe her a debt of gratitude for stopping the gang preying upon other girls. Justice was served, of a sort. But in Australia, the sentence of life imprisonment is usually reserved for murder. As such, violent sexual offenders rarely spend their lives in prison. Some reoffend after release. One of the most infamous was Adrian Bayley, who had served 11 years in jail for repeated sexual offences including rape and was paroled in 2010 before raping and murdering Jill Meagher in 2012.

Other victims brutalised by the Skaf gang included a 16-year-old girl who knew Mohammed Skaf from school. She thought they were friends. He took her to a park where his brother, Bilal, lay in wait with a gang of men. They held her down as Bilal raped her. They looked on, laughing. A second male followed Bilal. He held a gun to the teenagerโ€™s head, raped her and kicked her in the stomach in a final act of degradation. The Age reported that when Acting Justice Jane Mathews sentenced Bilal for the rape, he smiled.

The Skaf brothers identify as Lebanese Muslim. Three members of the gang raped another two 16-year-old girls repeatedly in an ordeal that lasted five hours. They dragged the girls by the neck to rape them in a park, and told one: โ€œYou deserve it because you are Australian.โ€ One of the victims said outside court that in the course of securing a plea bargain deal, ethnic references had been removed from her statement. The implication is the public do not know to what degree racial hatred might have inspired the rapists, or provided them with a sense of justification for enacting cruel and degrading crimes on girls from Anglo-European descent.

Some media pundits, academics and Islamic community leaders claimed it was Lebanese Muslims who were the victims of racism. They criticised then Labor premier Bob Carr for supporting Finnane, who wanted to name the perpetrators, but could not because they were juvenile offenders. Carr believed they did not deserve such protection. Keysar Trad, of the Lebanese Muslim Association, said naming the rapists would cause their families to suffer. In an interview with the ABCโ€™s 7.30 Report, Trad denied the victims were targeted because of their ethnicity. Rather, the rapists were motivated primarily by โ€œgratificationโ€.

When one racial or religious group targets another for violence and uses racial hatred against victims, it is commonly understood as a hate crime. The fact some racists derive sexual satisfaction from punishing girls or women from another ethnic group does not alter the fact. There is evidence to suggest the ethnic bigotry of the Skaf gang might not have been isolated to the girls they brutalised. On a phone seized by police, they found a message by ringleader Bilal Skaf: โ€œWhen you are feeling down โ€ฆ bash a Christian or Catholic.โ€ The Australian Associated Press cited a pre-release report compiled by NSW Corrective Services in 2017 that suggested Mohammed Skaf blamed his cultural upbringing for his behaviour towards women, and showed no empathy for his victims.

In his book, The Pursuit of Justice, Finnane revealed that in court, associates of the rapists showed gross disrespect for the victims: โ€œSome people in the public gallery, including the mother of Bilal Skaf, were hurling abuse at the three victims who had turned up for the sentencing.โ€ It was so serious that Finnane was compelled to warn the menacing group to desist, or they would be arrested. The Daily Mail reported that a female relative abused Crown prosecutor Margaret Cunneen, calling her โ€œsharmootaโ€, meaning whore in Arabic.

Australia does not have the death penalty, but our justice system has repeatedly failed to safeguard law-abiding citizens from dangerous criminals. Releasing violent offenders who feign remorse condemns innocent citizens to suffer. In Australia, the death penalty is by default. The paroled liarโ€™s next unwitting victim is put on death row.

shatterzzz
October 11, 2021 9:37 am

Well! I’m dun & dusted as far as an opinion on Parrot-head is concerned! Man’s a WANKER 1st CLASS!
Three times last week I swam in the local pool after its re-opening … This morning I’m refused entry because I’m NOT double vaxxed or have something called a green certificate!
“Sorry, no entry before December 1st without all the right bits of paper/certificates come back December 1” ……
Soooooo last Saturday arvo contaminating the pool wiv me unvaxxed bod was fair enuf but comes to Monday & I’m UNCLEAN not approved to mix wiv the did-as-they-were-told sheeples mob……..!

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
October 11, 2021 9:38 am

I believe the polls are just as fake as their news.

and elections.

Baba
Baba
October 11, 2021 9:39 am

Only the truly deluded like Forrest and Cannon-Brookes think their government subsidised monies can change the laws of physics.

Not deluded. Just spivs.

Winston Smith
October 11, 2021 9:39 am

HBBear:

I think Sneakers sees himself as a vengeful, Old Testament type God.

How odd.
The consensus on the Cat is that he’s sociopathic, evil little prick.
Obviously, he needs his mirror cleaned.
“Mirror, mirror, on the wall…”
Youse can finish it for me.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 11, 2021 9:39 am

Well done Tom for posting the Chris Mitchell column.
You have a lot of patience considering how many ads, links, graphics they loaded throughout the column.

Baba
Baba
October 11, 2021 9:44 am

This demonstrates that BigPharma are unscrupulous pricks. COVID presents an extremely small risk to 5-11 year olds but they constitute too large a โ€˜market segmentโ€™ to pass up.

God put those kids there for a reason, Dover.

rosie
rosie
October 11, 2021 9:46 am

And apparent confirmation that is from 1 November in New South Wales.
Meanwhile nannanna will consider opening qld border after national cabinet meeting on 5 November.
travel caps scraped

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 11, 2021 9:47 am

Sex offenders – like the Skaf gang – need to be removed from society permanently.
And sex offenders should not be given any suppression protections once all appeals have been exhausted, regardless of age.

Indolent
Indolent
October 11, 2021 9:51 am

And apparent confirmation that is from 1 November in New South Wales.
Meanwhile nannanna will consider opening qld border after national cabinet meeting on 5 November.
travel caps scraped

Anything about people be allowed to leave this hellhole?

rosie
rosie
October 11, 2021 9:53 am
Ellen of Tasmania
Ellen of Tasmania
October 11, 2021 9:57 am

This demonstrates that BigPharma are unscrupulous pricks.

And remember, the FDA get over 40% of their income from pharma.

We’re living in the dark ages.

Bar Beach Swimmer
October 11, 2021 10:03 am

This video is dated 2/10/21. Dr Peter McCullough at the MPH speaks at the 78th Annual Meeting of the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons: the Topic: โ€œThe VXs are not safe.โ€

65 minutes

https://rumble.com/vndgg6-oct-2-2021-peter-mccullough-md-the-vxs-are-not-safe.html

P
P
October 11, 2021 10:04 am

Emerald Robinson Retweeted
Bree A Dail @breeadail ยท
Oct 10
ROMEโ€”
@SpeakerPelosi
reportedly heckled at St Patrickโ€™s Catholic American Parish, in Rome, causing her to abruptly leave the Mass she was attending.

Paulist Fr. Steven Petroff, rector of St. Patrick’s, addresses the alleged โ€œsecurity incidentโ€, causing the Speaker to leave.
https://twitter.com/breeadail/status/1446949855021174784

rosie
rosie
October 11, 2021 10:04 am

The vaxxed can leave from 14 November, probably 1 November now indolent.

rosie
rosie
October 11, 2021 10:05 am
incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
October 11, 2021 10:06 am

Is the vaxxenenening a simple protection racket?

Baba
Baba
October 11, 2021 10:09 am

Does anyone really believe that home quarantine for inbound travel is going to be Australia-wide, unlimited and permanent from November?

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
October 11, 2021 10:10 am

I begin to get the sense that people are saying and writing “Let’s go, Brandon” so they can express a precise sentiment without falling afoul of moderation regimes. (Not really regimes. More juntas.)

Flakebook and Twatter are going to have to declare that bidding Brandon succeed is racist, misogynist, white supremacist, far-right hate speech.

Bar Beach Swimmer
October 11, 2021 10:14 am

Rick, I agree with Winston – wait for them.

Did they give you a copy of the HR policy on the vaccine(s) including the workers comp coverage?

Have they done a risk assessment on the vaccines?

And watch that vid I just put up – maybe you could use all of/part of McCulloughโ€™s evidence.

Tom
Tom
October 11, 2021 10:14 am

For New South Welsh Cats looking to escape to the country (press release):

THANK YOU NSW! VIRGIN AUSTRALIA CELEBRATES FREEDOM DAY WITH $49 FARES

Virgin Australia drops 50,000 regional NSW sale fares from $49* to Byron Bay and Coffs Harbour to mark Freedom Day.
The sale fares are available now at virginaustralia.com until midnight AEST this Wednesday 13 October 2021, or until sold out.
$49 sale fares are available for travel from 1 November 2021 following the foreshadowed resumption of travel within NSW.
All Virgin Australia sale fares include Velocity Frequent Flyer Points and up to double Status Credits^.
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More than 200,000 vaccinated Australians have entered the Virgin Australia VA-X & Win competition.

rosie
rosie
October 11, 2021 10:14 am

No-one is claiming that baba.
It’s NSW for now, and only for the fully vaccinated.
Considering that Queenslanders can’t get into Queensland from Victoria or NSW without doing two weeks hotel quarantine and nannanna is building a long term quarantine station at Toowoomba it’s a start, and hopefully puts the drongos under a little pressure.

Btw Are you miffed because you apparently just forked out 13k for your wife to travel business class?

P
P
October 11, 2021 10:15 am

IBAC is live streaming its Public Hearing from 10.00am TODAY โ€ข Monday 11 October
https://twitter.com/CraigKellyMP/status/1447328856596090880

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
October 11, 2021 10:19 am

When driving to work today various stations were thanking the government for not making people wear a mask outside anymore.

I suspect quite a few people are ‘grateful’, but would put that down to euphoria. There are propitiatory rituals required now that seem small enough compared to the reward, but when people get used to going to the pub again, especially when boosters become due and they are again being warned they could be reduced to second class citizens without the covid porn media they might not be as complacent.

Right now they are prisoners being freed together. Next time they will be free(r) people being threatened with being imprisoned individually.

The minor parties should be relentless stoking that outrage.

Baba
Baba
October 11, 2021 10:19 am

Btw Are you miffed because you apparently just forked out 13k for your wife to travel business class?

No Rosie, I’m not. I would do the same now.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 11, 2021 10:19 am

ML – I think you maybe right, since the mighty powers of the internet tend to sensor analogous phrases, like Winnie the Pooh and Big Yellow Ducks.

The euphemism wars have now begun in the West too.

P
P
October 11, 2021 10:24 am
local oaf
October 11, 2021 10:25 am

There have been mentions of fetal tissue in connection with the “vaccines”.

Does this mean the tissue was used in the development or testing of the jab, but it’s not actually present in the jab itself?

Or does every jab actually contain fetal cells?

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
October 11, 2021 10:26 am

Well, if people are going to post slabs of text without taking out the extraneous advertising, then I am going with:

REPORT THIS AD

shatterzzz
October 11, 2021 10:26 am

Silly me! If I’d seen this sooner I might not have been so annoyed wiv me pool knockback ..
explains it all .. LOL!

https://ibb.co/1XrRNt9

rosie
rosie
October 11, 2021 10:27 am

Good for you. I don’t know why you are so down on Australia becoming part of the world again.
I know someone who is getting bumped off business class seats to get home. Hopefully the end of capping means more seats, including economy ones.

rosie
rosie
October 11, 2021 10:29 am
Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 11, 2021 10:32 am

IBAC is live streaming its Public Hearing from 10.00am

I doubt it would be worth watching, and it might be a serious threat to your mental and physical health due to attacks of fatalistic depression and/or incandescent fury.

Anticorruption agencies only conduct stonings of righties, unless a lefty is so obviously and grossly corrupt that it is harming the ALP’s electability (thinking as I am of certain people in NSW). In those circumstances the ALP uses the ICACs of this world to overcome factional barriers preventing removal of their electoral anchor.

cohenite
October 11, 2021 10:35 am

Great toons as usual; I love the way Branco draws the vile old creep brandon; and Tina Norton has captured cocaine mitch mcconnell perfectly: the arse of the demorat tortoise.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
October 11, 2021 10:38 am

The euphemism wars have now begun in the West too.

Now that Pelosi was jeered out of her Church perhaps the crowds can adopt “Let’s go, Policy”.

Crossie
Crossie
October 11, 2021 10:40 am

H B Bear says:
October 11, 2021 at 9:10 am
Has anyone caught Covid on Bondi Beach (the beach not a cafe nearby) yet?

Covid on Bondi Beach sounds like a great name for an eatery and to commemorate our wartime era.

Indolent
Indolent
October 11, 2021 10:46 am

This video is dated 2/10/21. Dr Peter McCullough at the MPH speaks at the 78th Annual Meeting of the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons: the Topic: โ€œThe VXs are not safe.โ€

This is the most extraordinary thing I have ever seen. The word he uses is malfeasance, and that’s what it is, at every level of government.

This should be played in court at every hearing for every claim of injury to loss of earnings through forced vaccination. If there was any honesty in the legal systems it would be slam dunk.

Crossie
Crossie
October 11, 2021 10:48 am

Emerald Robinson Retweeted
Bree A Dail @breeadail ยท
Oct 10
ROMEโ€”
@SpeakerPelosi
reportedly heckled at St Patrickโ€™s Catholic American Parish, in Rome, causing her to abruptly leave the Mass she was attending.

About time! If the church won’t excommunicate her the faithful should.

The people are not passing judgement on her personal life but on her scandalous political actions.

miltonf
miltonf
October 11, 2021 10:48 am

Good that people in Rome see the filthy old Pelosi cadaver for what it is.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 11, 2021 10:49 am

apparently there are no actual foetal cells in the vaccines

Those sorts of article are blackly humorous Rosie! On the one hand they confirm that the vaccine concerned IS in fact manufactured using cells derived from an aborted foetus. Which is exactly why the archbishops of Sydney warned ScoMo last year. And on the other hand they are fact-checking a straw man, since that isn’t and never was the problem. It is such a transparent ploy that it undermines its own intention.

I saw these articles back when the AZ and J&J reservations were starting to become obvious. You’d put a search term like ‘AZ fetal cells’ into a search engine and kazam! These hits would pop up like daisies. They’re like Snopes “fact checks”, which these days also tend increasingly to be political hit pieces and strawman demolitions. Mask and ivermectin “studies” and “fact checks” are very often like this too.

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
October 11, 2021 10:51 am

IBAC is live streaming its Public Hearing that will find that Dan did nuffink rong.

areff
areff
October 11, 2021 10:52 am
Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 11, 2021 10:58 am

Rosie – Ah I see you are answering Local Oaf. Sorry if you feel my comment is insensitive, which would be correct since I didn’t scroll up…

The archbishops’ letter which Gab linked a while ago is available here as a PDF.

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
October 11, 2021 10:59 am

Did Dan do dastardly deeds?

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
October 11, 2021 11:02 am

Did Dan do dastardly deeds?

He doesn’t recall.

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 11, 2021 11:06 am

Babasays:
October 11, 2021 at 10:09 am
Does anyone really believe that home quarantine for inbound travel is going to be Australia-wide, unlimited and permanent from November?

Queenssssland and Sicktoria are still building 1000 bed “quarantine” centres.

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
October 11, 2021 11:07 am

Anticorruption agencies only conduct stonings of righties, unless a lefty is so obviously and grossly corrupt that it is harming the ALPโ€™s electability (thinking as I am of certain people in NSW). In those circumstances the ALP uses the ICACs of this world to overcome factional barriers preventing removal of their electoral anchor.

The IBAC Commissioner is Robert Redlich QC, who’s from a family of Labor royalty.
But they may just have miscalculated this time. Redlich doesn’t strike me as an apparatchnik. We’ll see.

Baba
Baba
October 11, 2021 11:07 am

I know someone who is getting bumped off business class seats to get home.

Of course you do, Rosie. Are you miffed that my wife is abroad while you are locked down in Afdanistan?

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
October 11, 2021 11:08 am

Cmon areff. I’m currently holding the record for a Dan sentence (heehee) with only words starting with ‘D’.
Hints: Dungeon dispatched despicable …

srr
srr
October 11, 2021 11:09 am

Thanks for this Indolent –

Indolent says:
October 11, 2021 at 10:46 am
This video is dated 2/10/21. Dr Peter McCullough at the MPH speaks at the 78th Annual Meeting of the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons: the Topic: โ€œThe VXs are not safe.โ€

This is the most extraordinary thing I have ever seen. The word he uses is malfeasance, and thatโ€™s what it is, at every level of government.

This should be played in court at every hearing for every claim of injury to loss of earnings through forced vaccination. If there was any honesty in the legal systems it would be slam dunk.

And for those Jab Pushers who’d rather everyone scroll past so that the Jab Pushers can keep pretending to be more expert than the actual experts –

https://rumble.com/vndgg6-oct-2-2021-peter-mccullough-md-the-vxs-are-not-safe.html

Rumble โ€” Peter McCullough, MD, MPH speaks at the 78th Annual Meeting of the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons on October 2, 2021
ABOUT DR. McCULLOUGH:
Dr. McCullough is board certified in internal medicine, cardiovascular diseases, and clinical lipidology. He cares for advanced patients with common medical problems including heart and kidney disease, lipid disorders, and diabetes.

He has become an expert on COVID-19 illnesses and welcomes recovered patients into his practice.
To inquire on Covid-19 related questions, email [email protected]

After receiving a bachelorโ€™s degree from Baylor University, Dr. McCullough completed his medical degree as an Alpha Omega Alpha graduate from the University of Texas Southwestern Medical School.

He went on to complete his internal medicine residency at the University of Washington, cardiology fellowship including service as Chief Fellow at William Beaumont Hospital, and masterโ€™s degree in public health at the University of Michigan.

Dr. McCullough has broadly published on a range of topics in medicine with > 1000 publications and > 600 citations in the National Library of Medicine.

His works include the โ€œInterface between Renal Disease and Cardiovascular Illnessโ€ in Braunwaldโ€™s Heart Disease Textbook.

Dr. McCullough is a founder and current president of the Cardiorenal Society of America, an organization dedicated to bringing cardiologists and nephrologists together to work on the emerging problem of cardiorenal syndromes.

His works have appeared in the New England Journal of Medicine, Journal of the American Medical Association, Lancet, British Medical Journal and other top-tier journals worldwide.

He is the editor-in-chief of Reviews in Cardiovascular Medicine and senior associate editor of the American Journal of Cardiology.
He serves on the editorial boards of multiple specialty journals.

Dr. McCullough has made presentations on the advancement of medicine across the world and has been an invited lecturer at the New York Academy of Sciences, the National Institutes of Health, U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA), and the European Medicines Agency.
He has served as member or chair of data safety monitoring boards of 24 randomized clinical trials.

Since the outset of the pandemic, Dr. McCullough has been a leader in the medical response to the COVID-19 disaster and has published โ€œPathophysiological Basis and Rationale for Early Outpatient Treatment of SARS-CoV-2 (COVID-19) Infectionโ€ the first synthesis of sequenced multidrug treatment of ambulatory patients infected with SARS-CoV-2 in the American Journal of Medicine and subsequently updated in Reviews in Cardiovascular Medicine.

He has 35 peer-reviewed publications on the infection and has commented extensively on the medical response to the COVID-19 crisis in TheHill.

On November 19, 2020, Dr. McCullough testified in the US Senate Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs concerning early ambulatory treatment of high-risk patients with COVID-19.

Dr. McCullough is a COVID-19 survivor himself and welcomes post-COVID-19 patients into his practice and will help them through the range of post-infection complications.

BOARD CERTIFICATIONS:
Cardiovascular Disease
Advanced Lipidology
Internal Medicine
HOSPITALS:
Baylor Scott & White Heart and Vascular Hospital – Dallas * Fort Worth
Baylor University Medical Center
CLINIC LOCATIONS:
HeartPlace Baylor Heart & Vascular Hospital-BHVH
Office: (214) 841-2000
Fax: (844) 292-1458
3409 Worth Street
Suite 500
Dallas, TX 75246

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 11, 2021 11:09 am

Queenssssland and Sicktoria are still building 1000 bed โ€œquarantineโ€ centres.

Are they anything like “detention centres” which lefties demonstrated against and ululated about for decades?

rickw
rickw
October 11, 2021 11:10 am

Located in Sicktoria.

Absolutely not going to resign.

Holding The Line!

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 11, 2021 11:16 am

In those circumstances the ALP uses the ICACs of this world to overcome factional barriers preventing removal of their electoral anchor.

Then the real question is the extent to which VicLab is coming to see TaliDan as a future electoral liability. I suspect that that view is growing, but might not yet be decisive.

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
October 11, 2021 11:18 am

Bring out the stairs!

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 11, 2021 11:18 am

Bruce of Newcastlesays:
October 11, 2021 at 11:09 am
Queenssssland and Sicktoria are still building 1000 bed โ€œquarantineโ€ centres.

Are they anything like โ€œdetention centresโ€ which lefties demonstrated against and ululated about for decades?

As Blackadder said, “Different Umboto Gorge”.

Roger
Roger
October 11, 2021 11:20 am

Are they anything like โ€œdetention centresโ€ which lefties demonstrated against and ululated about for decades?

If only…

As a tax paying citizen you get a bill once your state mandated detention is completed.

There’s no beach nearby to enjoy.

And you don’t get to wander into town and mix with the locals.

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
October 11, 2021 11:23 am

Queenssssland and Sicktoria are still building 1000 bed โ€œquarantineโ€ centres.

If you build them they will …

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 11, 2021 11:24 am

Where do I get my “Sweden Was Right” t0-shirt?

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 11, 2021 11:26 am

t-shirt
not to-shirt

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 11, 2021 11:26 am

Lots of job movement between FDA and pharma too.

The Bee is on the case yet again! (via Jonova today)

Infrastructure Bill Includes Capitol Building Expansion To Hold All The Pfizer Lobbyists (6 Oct)

I’d add a smiley but this sort of stuff is getting seriously corrupt.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 11, 2021 11:28 am

Roger – those detention centre invoices have got about as much chance of being paid as a mature aged divorce BA HECS debt.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 11, 2021 11:34 am

Jeebers, if you’re not feeling 100% avoid zerohedge.
It’s more depressing than usual.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 11, 2021 11:38 am

I donโ€™t have a job to get sacked from. Obviously cutting off the DSP over vaccination status is a step too far. We are not talking Nimbin No Jab No Play.

I hope.

struth
struth
October 11, 2021 11:40 am

Can anyone be still talking about a virus as we head toward two years of a full state of emergency police state , that which we cannot leave?
Those that won’t take the jab will now be sent to the gulags being built to protect the vaccinated, in what can only be described as the logic of the communist mind.
We are at war, and we haven’t been at war since Feb 2020, but many years prior
We have been sabotaged, fed terrible end of world doom propaganda, they’ve captured our institutions etc.
So when did the war start according to you?
How many years has Australia’s traitors, for that is exactly what they are, stopped any mines, dams, power stations being built, land being cleared, etc, even though to declare these projects and pursue them would have been an easy vote winner?

Australians unfortunately, when looked at and studied by the scientific mind (I’m not talking about the so called experts the government dress in white coats that end up being ex Keating staffers and the like, but actual Historians, psychologists and the like) have to be seen as “as thick as two short planks””As confused as a dyke with a vibrator” when it comes to understanding the world, with a shocking, lemming like belief in government’s inherent goodness, and attacking Christianity from their high viz safety culture of virtue signalling group think.
Stuff the facts or even looking at them?
Vaccinate (they are not vaccines, they do not work as such) themselves, and throw their children into the volcano to sacrifice them to save themselves getting the sniffles!!
Once your society sacrifices it’s children to save the parents, it will not, and does not deserve, to survive.
These so called vaccines kill.
And kill often.
We have been at war for years, just too pig ignorant, cowardly and apathetic to fight back.
The price we will pay will be like nothing the earth has seen before.
A few million toxic colonial class disgusting white people on an island standing in the way of all those resources and associated wealth will be but history, destroyed by their own technology, digital technology.
In fashions requiring minimal effort from the controlling class, the tyranny will be unavoidable and overwhelming and you will have nowhere to hide.
“Going bush” will be a fool’s endeavour.
The digital control of a passport and no cash.
Absolute and utter control of everything you do, consume, say, think, etc.

rickw
rickw
October 11, 2021 11:43 am

Just had a heads up call from my boss.

99% chance of termination at this point.

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
October 11, 2021 11:45 am

99% chance of termination at this point

Check what they mean by ‘termination’,

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 11, 2021 11:48 am

I’m listening to Viva Barnes live stream.
Barnes is saying US courts are currently hearing lawyers use parts of Buck v Bell in their defence against parties bringing anti vaccine mandate cases.
This is post the University of Indianapolis folding.
FMD, this should be the biggest news story in the US at the moment.
Pro vaccine mandate organisations & businesses are using Buck v Bell.
I am without speech.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 11, 2021 11:49 am

Which state rickw?

struth
struth
October 11, 2021 11:55 am
rosie
rosie
October 11, 2021 11:56 am

It’s you that constructed the strawman this time BoN. The specufic question asked was do the vaccines actually contain foetal cells?
The answer is no, I think everyone is well aware that they were used in an earlier part of the process or as part of a testing phrase.
As calli mentioned yesterday, testing using those particular foetal cell lines seems to be ubiquitous in the food and health industry. As people are now aware of that I hope all those other products are off the list.
Did you notice that the article also mentioned hydroxychloroquine is an end product of nazi experiments?

Mater
October 11, 2021 11:56 am

Which state rickw?

FTB,
Heโ€™s here in long suffering Victoria.

Fair Shake
Fair Shake
October 11, 2021 11:58 am

Cassie: Covid on Bondi Beach sounds like a great name for an eatery

โ€˜COVID on the Beachโ€™ sounds like a cocktail. Ingredients: tequila, lemon , salt and nut juice squeezed daily in the press.

Gab
Gab
October 11, 2021 11:59 am

We will never get back what it was like before, what little freedoms we had. That’s all gone. We may for a time have what seems to be freedom in small things, but only for a short time.

We have proven to governments that the majority will obey when they use the tools of fear as they have done during this ”pandemic” exercise. Instead of standing up, collectively, against the government’s ”orders” and ”mandates” to have an experimental medical procedure, the majority have capitulated because of ”lockdown”. And no, this is NOT directed at anyone here; the pressure to comply is enormous. Physical, emotional, psychological – enormous pressure. I have seen friends and family hold out for as long as they can …. Look, this is not about whether you have or haven’t; this is about the fear machine the governments have used against us, and readily employed by their media, to bend the population to do their bidding; to bend us to their will.

But there are consequences, as there are for those who have chosen not to comply with an ”order” a ”mandate” for an experimental medical procedure.

The statistics do not add up to a ”pandemic” not by a long shot, but that doesn’t matter apparently. Fear has won and our freedoms are being eroded little by little each day. Look at the Bills they are proposing, the ones Dover has kindly linked to at the right hand side of this site. If 80% get just two little shots, why is the government pushing for an Identity Card, for Vaccine Passports, for forcible internment and additional powers under the Bio-Security Act? You think this will not affect you or your children, your generations to come? Think again. Will the next ”health order” be that a couple can only have 1 child or 2 and no more? We have seen how easily freedom of expression has been clamped down. Remember that pregnant woman in Melbourne who was arrested for posting something online that was in opposition to the government?

We have seen in just a few months the Constitution, the Privacy Act, the Human Rights Act and many more Acts, developed from the 1970s and in force until this year to protect our privacy and freedoms, just thrown under the bus.

There is already talk of a third and fourth ”shot” in Q1 next year. So as we have seen in places like Israel, Finland etc your ”vaccine” passport will be revoked unless you have further shots.

The governments of this country have seen just how easy it is to get people to go against their conscience, their will. It will not end with the mandatory experimental virus jabs.

I hope to God I am completely wrong.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 11, 2021 12:00 pm

Sorry to hear that rick.
Heart breaking stuff.

A Suggestion
A Suggestion
October 11, 2021 12:01 pm

Concerning rickw, if you are terminated due to lack of covid vaccine. Does that make you an invalid in the eyes of the law and can you then qualify for disability support?

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 11, 2021 12:02 pm

Buck v Bell for those interested.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buck_v._Bell

Be Pierce Butler.
Don’t be Oliver Holmes.

Bar Beach Swimmer
October 11, 2021 12:02 pm

Timothy Neilson says:
October 10, 2021 at 9:23 pm

Tim, I really enjoyed that.

Gab
Gab
October 11, 2021 12:02 pm

In the last month, Lithuania became the first country in Europe to enforce Covid Pass restrictions in all the society. People without a Covid Pass are banned from most public areas: supermarkets, shopping centers, stores, banks, restaurants, cafes, universities, gyms, libraries, repair services, haircuts, and much more.

At entrances to public spaces, people queue in line to have their Pass verified. Guards scan the Pass of each person, sometimes with a handheld scanner, and sometimes with an installed machine. If you have a valid Pass, the light flashes green and beeps. Then you may enter. The Covid Pass is in the form of QR code on phone or on paper. A person without a Covid Pass may not enter any public space. That person is banned from participating in society. And employers suspend you without pay.

rosie
rosie
October 11, 2021 12:03 pm

Why are you implying I am lying baba?
Why wouldn’t I know someone who is having trouble getting back?
Apparently they are but one of 45,000 citizens and permanent residents in the same boat.
It’s not particularly unusual.
And no I’m not miffed about not paying 13k for an airfare though who wouldn’t want to escape from Melbourne right now?

Megan
Megan
October 11, 2021 12:08 pm

Sorry Rickw, that just sucks. Find a good employment lawyer asap.

Gab
Gab
October 11, 2021 12:08 pm

โ€˜Like a drug, the machine [government] is useful, dangerous and habit-forming. The oftener one surrenders to it the tighter its grip becomes.โ€™ – George Orwell.

Gab
Gab
October 11, 2021 12:10 pm

rickwsays:
October 11, 2021 at 11:10 am
Located in Sicktoria.

Absolutely not going to resign.

Holding The Line!

Same here, on all three. Had the conversations and the 15th October may be it .

Dot
Dot
October 11, 2021 12:11 pm

Lithuania is fucked; government is anal cancer.

rosie
rosie
October 11, 2021 12:11 pm

Any updates in the vaccine mandate court cases?

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 11, 2021 12:12 pm

Lithuania is fucked

Went down hill after Marko Ramius.

Dot
Dot
October 11, 2021 12:13 pm

Work out if your firm ever received Commonwealth grants. Are you actually are Commonwealth employee?

???

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
October 11, 2021 12:14 pm

Long post; but itโ€™s important to get the Freedom details correct. Penalties apply.

Halloween 2021: What you can and can’t do [in NSW] while trick or treating this year

To trick or treat in NSW this year or supervise child groups any aged 16 years and over, you will need to provide evidence they are fully vaccinated or medically exempt from being vaccinated. Keep your vaccine passport or letter of exemption handy.

As of today, groups of up to 10 visitors are allowed to gather in homes where all adults are vaccinated, meaning some children can mix with their friendship groups inside. Masks are still required in public indoor settings (including indoor areas of common property of apartment buildings) for those aged 12 and over, meaning proper face masks will be needed in addition to any included with costumes.

For fully-vaccinated residents, 30 people can gather in outdoor settings, which covers trick or treating as it occurs outdoors. Vaccinated Aussies aged 12 years and under don’t need to wear masks outdoors.

The rules for young people aged 13-14 remains unclear so best to err on the side of caution. This age group is usually too ‘cool’ to trick or treat anyway. If they do want to join in best if they wear masks, even outdoors, if not fully vaccinated.

Unvaccinated Australians aged 16 years and over are limited to two per group, as per previous picnic rules in NSW, and won’t be able to visit households or mix with other households while supervising their children. They will also be required to wear masks while trick or treating.

Simple enough?
No, donโ€™t thank me.

rosie
rosie
October 11, 2021 12:15 pm
Dot
Dot
October 11, 2021 12:16 pm

Great posts Gab.

Guest blog them.

rosie
rosie
October 11, 2021 12:19 pm

Dr Faustus
Can you imagine the meetings where all those public servants sat down to earnestly discuss what events needed specific guidelines?
Toshing tossers.
They think anyone is actually going to police this?

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
October 11, 2021 12:19 pm

Warrnambool real estate business complains on Ace Network News they are being called by dozens of people accusing them of discrimination by only allowing the fully vaccinated for on site property inspections as part of the TaliDan show trials.
The owner wanted the โ€œhateโ€ would stop and hoped he was making a difference.
No example of โ€œhateโ€ was cited.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
October 11, 2021 12:25 pm

Angus Taylor explains:

In a signal to the Nationals, who are yet to agree to stronger emissions cuts ahead of COP26 climate talks in Glasgow, Mr Taylor stressed net zero emissions does not mean stopping all emissions.

“Some in this debate think net zero means zero. It doesn’t. Zero is not zero,” he told an energy and climate summit hosted by the Australian Financial Review on Monday.

Deputy Speaker, Llew Oโ€™Brien explains back:

“I can tell the Prime Minister now I won’t be agreeing to any plan that’s put before me the day before he gets on a plane to go to Glasgow,” he said.

I suppose itโ€™s theoretically possible that a government could fuck things up worseโ€ฆ

Baba
Baba
October 11, 2021 12:25 pm

13th January 2021 Lithuania commemorated the 30th anniversary of Freedom Defenders Day.

https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/SPEECH_21_106

If only they had some patience they could be living free under Putin.

struth
struth
October 11, 2021 12:25 pm

Good work Gab.
Although I was saying all that 18 months ago and being laughed at.

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 11, 2021 12:26 pm

rickwsays:
October 11, 2021 at 11:43 am
Just had a heads up call from my boss.

99% chance of termination at this point.

With or without “extreme prejudice”?

Cassie of Sydney
October 11, 2021 12:27 pm

“Gabsays:
October 11, 2021 at 11:59 am”

Great post Gab. It should be a thread of its own.

local oaf
October 11, 2021 12:29 pm

So when did the war start according to you?
How many years has Australiaโ€™s traitors, for that is exactly what they are, stopped any mines, dams, power stations being built, land being cleared, etc, even though to declare these projects and pursue them would have been an easy vote winner?

50 years is my guess.

The western world’s left abandoned the working class at the end of the 60s, by which time it was obvious they would never revolt and install a socialist dictatorship.

The left have been wearing the institutions of the western world as so many skinsuits for 50 years now and they have complete control of society. Political parties, MSM, “social” media, corporations, academia, schools, etc.

The right were defeated decades ago!

jupes
jupes
October 11, 2021 12:29 pm

… some children can mix with their friendship groups inside.

Something very disturbing about that sentence.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
October 11, 2021 12:30 pm

They think anyone is actually going to police this?

They have Karens for that.
Licorice jellybeans only for the unjabbed.

Dot
Dot
October 11, 2021 12:31 pm

struth

Don’t forget that ABSURD cybercrime bill.

John of Mel
John of Mel
October 11, 2021 12:33 pm

Lithuania is fucked

Went down hill after Marko Ramius.

If the country that got freedom from the communist rule only 30+ years ago falls for this bs, how much hope does Australia have?

Now… when is my 1.75l bottle of Wild Turkey coming I wonder…

MatrixTransform
October 11, 2021 12:33 pm

wearing the institutions of the western world as so many skinsuits for 50 years now

yep

Rorschach
Rorschach
October 11, 2021 12:34 pm

This video is dated 2/10/21. Dr Peter McCullough at the MPH speaks at the 78th Annual Meeting of the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons:

Everyone must watch this. Bookmark and send to anyone forcing you to vaxx [especially your children]

https://rumble.com/vndgg6-oct-2-2021-peter-mccullough-md-the-vxs-are-not-safe.html

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 11, 2021 12:35 pm

This is nice. Instapundit picks up Tim Blair, whose blog post, highly unusually, is unpaywalled on a day when a large chunk of the Tele’s website is given over to climate bedwetting.

TIM BLAIR: Nothing Green Ever Works: the perfect six-step environmental virtue loop. (10 Oct)

Click through to get to Tim’s blog post, which is excellent Kafkaesque fun. I wonder if Tim is fighting a one-man guerrilla war against the Murdoch kiddies?

jupes
jupes
October 11, 2021 12:36 pm

Halloween 2021: What you can and canโ€™t do [in NSW] while trick or treating this year

Anyone who believes that load of ridiculous nonsense has anything to with ‘science’or freedom, would have to the brain of a window licking retard.

Nevertheless, don’t forget those are the rules from the alleged least authoritarian government in Australia.

MatrixTransform
October 11, 2021 12:36 pm

convenient that Labor Vik Govt has complete control under SoE and targets their ideological enemies
–Small business
–Journeymen
–Land holders

coincidence?
I think not

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 11, 2021 12:47 pm

Itโ€™s you that constructed the strawman this time BoN.

Rosie – Yes I did, inadvertently since I didn’t scroll up. Which once I did so I acknowledged and apologised for.

Yet my original point is correct on its stand-alone merits, since these people are being mendacious apologists for a heinous practice.

Tom
Tom
October 11, 2021 12:53 pm

99% chance of termination at this point.

I hope you can afford to lawyer up, rickw. If your employer doesn’t see warfare with his own workforce as a destructive deadend street, he’s too dumb to be in business.

Crossie
Crossie
October 11, 2021 1:02 pm

Those that wonโ€™t take the jab will now be sent to the gulags being built to protect the vaccinated, in what can only be described as the logic of the communist mind.

Struth, they have got away with something that is illogical and scientific.

Crossie
Crossie
October 11, 2021 1:04 pm

Gab says:
October 11, 2021 at 12:02 pm
In the last month, Lithuania became the first country in Europe to enforce Covid Pass restrictions in all the society. People without a Covid Pass are banned from most public areas: supermarkets, shopping centers, stores, banks, restaurants, cafes, universities, gyms, libraries, repair services, haircuts, and much more.

That is shocking for any nation but for a former Soviet republic it is inexplicable. I bet Putin is not that cruel to his serfs.

Megan
Megan
October 11, 2021 1:07 pm

That is shocking for any nation but for a former Soviet republic it is inexplicable.

Perhaps not, there are still plenty of people whose inner dictator is never very far from the surface. The lumpenprole frogs never even notice the water temperature increasing.

srr
srr
October 11, 2021 1:08 pm

Rorschachsays:
October 11, 2021 at 12:34 pm

This video is dated 2/10/21. Dr Peter McCullough at the MPH speaks at the 78th Annual Meeting of the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons:

Everyone must watch this. Bookmark and send to anyone forcing you to vaxx [especially your children]

https://rumble.com/vndgg6-oct-2-2021-peter-mccullough-md-the-vxs-are-not-safe.html

The Jab Pushers have no counter to this.
They just want it to go away.

Gab
Gab
October 11, 2021 1:19 pm

That is shocking for any nation but for a former Soviet republic it is inexplicable. I bet Putin is not that cruel to his serfs.

Where do you think Victoria is headed? We already have these vaccine passports in rural Vic. What do you think Morrison’s Digital Identity Bill is all about?

Sign the petitions, flood your MPs, people. Even if it means nothing to them at least you tried!

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
October 11, 2021 1:34 pm

In Rort, Rort, Rortitty Rort news:

Queensland will soon be home to the world’s largest green hydrogen manufacturing facility. Here’s what that means

An ABC hackette explains the fundamentals of Green Hydrogen science:

However, on Earth, hydrogen doesn’t appear pure in nature and requires energy to separate it.

This happens when an electrical current is passed through a tank of water, separating hydrogen from oxygen in a process known as electrolysis.

If the electricity is generated from renewable sources, such as solar or wind, the hydrogen emits a vapour that has no carbon footprint.

So, โ€œhydrogen emits a vapour that has no carbon footprintโ€. A PhD in physical chemistry, right there.

Dr Stephen Miles explains further:

“FFI will construct a facility with an initial capacity to manufacture up to two gigawatts of electrolysers annually,” he said.

That renewable hydrogen energy will then be exported from Queensland to countries around the world.

To my untrained mind, this sounds like a a speccy electrolyser factory rather than a world-leading Green Hydrogen manufacturing plant.

So much to learnโ€ฆ

Gilas
Gilas
October 11, 2021 1:39 pm

Rorschach says:
October 11, 2021 at 12:34 pm

This video is dated 2/10/21. Dr Peter McCullough at the MPH speaks at the 78th Annual Meeting of the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons:

I cannot fault any of his assessments of the data presented.
His explanation of the incredible stupidity of a vaccination program early during a pandemic was particularly good, not something that is widely known.
It explains the almost complete evolution to the current Delta variant in the US, with concomitant reductions of 50+% in vax efficacy when compared to the early Alpha strains.

Overall, a brilliant summary of the complete takeover of the FDA and CDC by the crony capitalists over two full US administrations. We probably need to go back to FDR’s New Deal to find greater corruption of Federal Instrumentalities, but more knowledgeable Cats might correct me on this.

At least there are highly competent, decent physicians speaking out in the US at a major conference.
In Australia we have Colleges complicit in the false narrative, and State Medical Councils (not AHPRA..) threatening disciplinary action for medicos deviating from it.
Some more of that “larrikin” Aussie spirit we’ve come to appreciate in the last 18 months…

Gilas
Gilas
October 11, 2021 1:45 pm

New thread, doh!

Rorschach
Rorschach
October 11, 2021 1:50 pm

Thanks G!

JC
JC
October 11, 2021 1:53 pm

Winston Smith says:
October 11, 2021 at 4:28 am

JC:

Out of curiosity is there such a thing as arse cancerโ€ฆ not bowel cancer etc.. but straight out rear-end cancer?

Yes there is.
Arky knows the travelling salesman.
He can get you a great deal.

Thanks for the info, Turtle Head.

Tell us : when should we be expecting China Airlines to front up at Melbourne Airport with plane loads of Chinese infantry on the move to begin taking over Australia.

We’ve been trying to figure if you’re native or foreign flora, you complete imbecile.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 11, 2021 2:38 pm

dover0beachsays:

October 11, 2021 at 11:31 am

Is there a good summary of Sluggate anywhere? I heard a part of a Discernable video and the guy was arguing that it implicates Andrews as Health Minister, Sutton as CHO,

The closure of I-Cook was in February 2019, when Andrews was Premier, so no chance he will be roped in.
Sutton, on the other hand, has a lot of questions to answer.
The closure notice was kicked up to Health HQ because the normal authority (Dandenong CC) had a conflict, in that they part-owned I-Cook’s failing competitor.
Sutton duly signed it off.
His defenders say he “had to sign it because it was kicked up to his level and …” (not sure where that goes).
Given he might only get one or two of these referrals a year due to conflict of interest, don’t you think an inquisitive evidence-based sciency type guy might ask how the conflict of interest arose?
This podcast might be worth a listen …
https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/life-and-crimes-with-andrew-rule/id1260800644?i=1000517537142

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
October 11, 2021 3:32 pm

There must be a lot of bureaucrats studying the Leak cartoon and wondering what the joke is.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 11, 2021 3:32 pm

Dotsays:

October 11, 2021 at 12:13 pm

Work out if your firm ever received Commonwealth grants. Are you actually are Commonwealth employee?

Bwah ha ha ha ha.
A variation on the argument that, if you hold shares in a shopping centre which leases a shop to Australia Post, you hold an office of profit from the Crown, therefore are ineligible for Parliament.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 11, 2021 3:46 pm

GMO – bad. mRNA – good.

As Pauline said, โ€œPlease explain?โ€

Indolent
Indolent
October 11, 2021 3:55 pm
feelthebern
feelthebern
October 11, 2021 4:02 pm

What are you guys hanging out here for?
The beer’s colder at the new thread.

areff
areff
October 11, 2021 4:05 pm

Faustus: I’m no Julius Sumner Miller, so pardon my ignorance in thinking there are other means of extracting hydrogen. Isn’t one by some or other process that ‘steams’ coal? The hydrogen plant is in Gladstone, which prompts ‘coal’ as the first word to mind.

If any Cats, preferably those not booted out of Fifth Form science and told never to return, could banish my ignorance it would be appreciated. I suspect that whatever process they use there will be more energy going into the process than is produced.

If the intention is to extract hydrogen from coal, of the energy-intensive irony.

Bons
October 11, 2021 4:13 pm

I’ve been critical of my member Llew O’Brien, but his standing up to Morrisson’s climate treason may well earn him my vote.

Bons
October 11, 2021 4:20 pm

When historians unravel the Wagner – Palacechook machinations, it will be compelling reading.
Airport, concentration camp, aerospace facility, perhaps a ‘Unicorn Fart’ plant – mazing.
What Olympic facilities will magically be constructed in Woomba.
This lot leave Big Russ well in the dust.

Bons
October 11, 2021 4:28 pm

To whomever posted the paywall dodger add on link,
tanku – brilliant.
Probably bugger all that I could face reading, but still it is there for reference.
Thanks.

Winston Smith
October 11, 2021 6:06 pm

Rickw:

99% chance of termination at this point.

That 1% shows they are nervous – they didn’t think you’d be calling their bluff.
Get a lawyers business card and hand it over when they give you the bums rush…

Winston Smith
October 11, 2021 6:13 pm

Feelthebern:

Pro vaccine mandate organisations & businesses are using Buck v Bell.

That this isn’t page 1 on every newspaper in the US shows an awful lot.
Buck Vs Bell – the right of the government to forcibly sterilise someone for their own good.

Winston Smith
October 11, 2021 6:17 pm

rosie:

As calli mentioned yesterday, testing using those particular foetal cell lines seems to be ubiquitous in the food and health industry. As people are now aware of that I hope all those other products are off the list.

Rosie, do you understand the legal concept of “fruit of the poisoned tree?”
I would think it holds in certain religious terms as well.

Winston Smith
October 11, 2021 6:44 pm

Local Oaf:

The right were defeated decades ago!

You’re only defeated when you’re dead.
We’ve been on the back foot for a while now, but remember the US won its war with England and only about 3% actually armed themselves.
The people are the sea.
The guerrillas are the fish that live in the sea.

Mao Tse Tung.

JC
JC
October 11, 2021 6:49 pm

When is Air China landing in Melbourne I wonder.. “scenarily” speaking of course.

DaFisk
DaFisk
October 12, 2021 12:29 am

Biden is proving shockingly weak and inept and independents are moving hard against him. Worst foreign policy president in my lifetime (even worse than W or O), and economy is on life support.

This is wipe-out territory for 2022.

https://twitter.com/henryolsenEPPC/status/1447550954195259397

Henry Olsen
@henryolsenEPPC
Biden’s numbers with independents continue to crater. His 5-poll average among I’s from this morning’s RCP is 34.2-57. Minus 23 among independents is ten points worse than just a week and a half ago when I sounded the alarm. He’s gone from +13 in 2020 to -23 in 11 months.

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