Open Thread- Mon 11 Oct 2021


Antigone with Polynices’ Body, Sebastien Norblin, 1825

3,116 responses to “Open Thread- Mon 11 Oct 2021”

  1. P Avatar
    P

    TheLastRefuge tweets in the last half-hour –
    Eleven simple truths, you can fact check, that tell you all of these government COVID rules are not about health.

    1) When 99.8% of the people on average recover from this virus, it means this is not about health.

    2) When there is virtual zero risk to children and they want to jab age 5 and up children, it means this is not about health.

    3) When a jabbed and an unjabbed person can both get and transmit the virus but only the unjabbed loses their job, it means this is not about health.

    4) When Americans lose the right to decide what goes into their body, it means this is not about health.

    5) When India and other countries reduce its COVID cases and deaths by 90% using Ivermectin cocktail and the US health officials deny its use, it means this is not about health.

    6) When doctors are threatened with loss of license for using off label treatments to save lives, it means this is not about health.

    7) When more deaths and adverse reactions are reported than ALL vaccines COMBINED over the past 30 years and yet health officials ignore this data, it means this is not about health.

    8) When unjabbed people are denied other medical procedures because they simply want to remain unjabbed, it means this is not about health.

    9) When early treatment therapeutics were denied and purposely kept from doctors, hospitals and thus billions of people, since March of 2020, leading to millions of unnecessary deaths, it means this is not about health.

    10) When many people in Congress including their staff and families, allegedly take Ivermectin, with zero hospitalizations – and yet never speak up about the success or push to allow its use by the very citizens they represent, it means this is not about health.

    11) When millions of people who got COVID and recovered and now have Natural Immunity, yet the Health Officials refuse to acknowledge and incorporate this into their policies, it means this is not about health.

  2. Cassie of Sydney Avatar
    Cassie of Sydney

    two!

  3. caveman Avatar
    caveman

    Ill take 3 , no one else wants it

  4. Carpe Jugulum Avatar
    Carpe Jugulum

    Top Ten – woo hoo

  5. Bruce in WA Avatar
    Bruce in WA

    Wow! You can still smell the beeswax polish on the tables and the fresh paint.

    I decided I’d better take my cardiologist seriously when he said (paraphrasing), “You’re a fat bastid”. Trying to kickstart with a very low (<20 g) carb diet and see if I can get into ketosis. Started last Friday and by the scales this morning I've dropped 2.25 kg. I'll try to keep this up for three weeks (it gets harder as it goes) and then slowly ease some "good" carbs back into the diet. All this Covid crap and the way Australia is heading had me "comfort eating" — just bloody self-indulgent, I know. No more.

  6. Mother Lode Avatar
    Mother Lode

    Sneaky sneaky…

  7. Chris Avatar
    Chris

    Morning all!
    Ooo this is nice – a packet of fresh macarons on my desk.

    A gift from one of the colleagues who came to the shooting range to try a few historic arms with me on the weekend. I love sharing that.

  8. Chris Avatar
    Chris

    Bruce, T-Bone Steaks are a great way to diet. Leave the weeds in the paddock for the cows.

  9. Miss Anthropist Avatar
    Miss Anthropist

    Freedom Day in NSW?
    Bullshit.
    Try and make me change my mind.

  10. Timothy Neilson Avatar
    Timothy Neilson

    I’ll try to keep this up for three weeks (it gets harder as it goes) and then slowly ease some “good” carbs back into the diet.

    Are “good” carbs found in 375ml bottles and cans?

  11. Bruce in WA Avatar
    Bruce in WA

    So, I understand that we will shortly all have personal QR codes — unique identifiers — embedded in our digital vaccine certificate.

    That should make it much easier for scanning before entering shops, public transport, work, hospitals, cinemas, pubs, restaurants, gyms … well, everywhere, really. Obviously taking their lead from Lithuania.

    Any guesses as to when this will happen? I have no idea, but a contact via Centrelink tells me they hope to have it up and running before the end of this month.

  12. Bruce in WA Avatar
    Bruce in WA

    Bruce, T-Bone Steaks are a great way to diet. Leave the weeds in the paddock for the cows.

    On it, mate — T-bone, sautéed mushrooms and an egg — breakfast of champions! 😀

  13. Megan Avatar
    Megan

    I’ve been following an almost totally carnivore diet for the last two months. It’s been more for reducing my inflammatory conditions but the weight loss has been a great side effect. Not hungry, no cravings, better sleep, possibly the easiest diet I’ve ever been on…and diets, I’ve done a few.

    I’ve still got to get updated blood test results which could be fantastic or a slap in the face from reality. Who knows? I’m treating myself purely as an experiment.

  14. Bruce in WA Avatar
    Bruce in WA

    Are “good” carbs found in 375ml bottles and cans?

    I’ve been assured that red and white wine has “good” carbs in moderation. In the interim, foods with no carbs include whisky, gin, vodka, tequila, brandy …

  15. local oaf Avatar
    local oaf

    Has anyone ever heard, used or even seen the term “maskhole” used in Australia?

    I’d never heard of it until recently chatting with a guy in the US.
    He expressed his disappointment at the fact that the girl he’d been seeing was turning out to be “a maskhole, state worshipping Karen”.

    Goolag suggests the term is used by both sides. Fascists abuse the free for not wearing masks and free people use it to describe the willing slaves of the state.

  16. MatrixTransform Avatar
    MatrixTransform

    convenient that Labor Vik Govt has complete control under SoE and targets their ideological enemies
    –Small business
    –Journeymen
    –Land holders

    coincidence?
    I think not

  17. calli Avatar
    calli

    Excellent subject for the thread, Dover. Antigone was Alinski-ed.

    Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.

  18. GreyRanga Avatar
    GreyRanga

    Nice new fred you got there. Shame iff summit should happen to it.

  19. GreyRanga Avatar
    GreyRanga

    Bruce in WAsays:
    October 11, 2021 at 12:35 pm
    Are “good” carbs found in 375ml bottles and cans?

    I’ve been assured that red and white wine has “good” carbs in moderation. In the interim, foods with no carbs include whisky, gin, vodka, tequila, brandy …

    Can you get wine in cans now? Looks like you’ve got four food categories covered.

  20. feelthebern Avatar
    feelthebern

    Breaking news, GreyRanga is John Setka.

  21. feelthebern Avatar
    feelthebern

    Has anyone ever heard, used or even seen the term “maskhole” used in Australia?

    Dates back to the late 80’s in Sydney.
    Part of the vernacular around the Tool Shed &/or Hellfire club.

  22. feelthebern Avatar
    feelthebern

    Rittenhouse jury selection begins 1st November.

  23. local oaf Avatar
    local oaf

    Dates back to the late 80’s in Sydney.
    Part of the vernacular around the Tool Shed &/or Hellfire club.

    Ewww!

    But then again, maybe an apt term for the willing submissives of today’s Masters.
    Dan, Glad, Annastacia and Scomo with whips and high heel boots anyone?

  24. Slim Cognito Avatar
    Slim Cognito

    Just had a water cooler conversation at work. Bottom line is people are shit scared of covid and no amount of common sense is going to make it through to them. This country is rooted.

  25. Texas Jack Avatar
    Texas Jack

    Can anyone explain why that dolt, Morrison, insists on speaking to us like he’s reading from the worst of some Peter Fitzsimmons dribble? Dead set, I cannot listen to him for more than ten seconds.

  26. Plasmamortar Avatar
    Plasmamortar

    Agreed

    Talking to a couple of workers on site today.
    They have swallowed the lie that it is “the unvaccinated” that are holding us all back now.
    They don’t understand when I explain to them that it was the government that stole their freedom, no their fellow man, yet they believe their fellow man is the problem…

    It’s worrying how people do not see, even with the information spelled out for them.

  27. Gab Avatar
    Gab

    In the last month, Lithuania became the first country in Europe to enforce Covid Pass restrictions in all the society. People without a Covid Pass are banned from most public areas: supermarkets, shopping centers, stores, banks, restaurants, cafes, universities, gyms, libraries, repair services, haircuts, and much more.

    At entrances to public spaces, people queue in line to have their Pass verified. Guards scan the Pass of each person, sometimes with a handheld scanner, and sometimes with an installed machine. If you have a valid Pass, the light flashes green and beeps. Then you may enter. The Covid Pass is in the form of QR code on phone or on paper. A person without a Covid Pass may not enter any public space. That person is banned from participating in society. And employers suspend you without pay.

    Where do you think Victoria is headed?
    We already have these vaccine passports in rural Vic. What do you think Morrison’s Digital Identity Bill is all about?

    Sign the petitions, flood your MPs with emails, people. Even if it means nothing to them at least you tried!

  28. Gab Avatar
    Gab

    Not leaving this on the old fred.

    We will never get back what it was like before, what little freedoms we had. That’s all gone. We may for a time have what seems to be freedom in small things, but only for a short time.

    We have proven to governments that the majority will obey when they use the tools of fear as they have done during this ”pandemic” exercise. Instead of standing up, collectively, against the government’s ”orders” and ”mandates” to have an experimental medical procedure, the majority have capitulated because of ”lockdown”. And no, this is NOT directed at anyone here; the pressure to comply is enormous. Physical, emotional, psychological – enormous pressure. I have seen friends and family hold out for as long as they can …. Look, this is not about whether you have or haven’t; this is about the fear machine the governments have used against us, and readily employed by their media, to bend the population to do their bidding; to bend us to their will.

    But there are consequences, as there are for those who have chosen not to comply with an ”order” a ”mandate” for an experimental medical procedure.

    The statistics do not add up to a ”pandemic” not by a long shot, but that doesn’t matter apparently. Fear has won and our freedoms are being eroded little by little each day. Look at the Bills they are proposing, the ones Dover has kindly linked to at the right hand side of this site. If 80% get just two little shots, why is the government pushing for an Identity Card, for Vaccine Passports, for forcible internment and additional powers under the Bio-Security Act? You think this will not affect you or your children, your generations to come? Think again. Will the next ”health order” be that a couple can only have 1 child or 2 and no more? We have seen how easily freedom of expression has been clamped down. Remember that pregnant woman in Melbourne who was arrested for posting something online that was in opposition to the government?

    We have seen in just a few months the Constitution, the Privacy Act, the Human Rights Act and many more Acts, developed from the 1970s and in force until this year to protect our privacy and freedoms, just thrown under the bus.

    There is already talk of a third and fourth ”shot” in Q1 next year. So as we have seen in places like Israel, Finland etc your ”vaccine” passport will be revoked unless you have further shots.

    The governments of this country have seen just how easy it is to get people to go against their conscience, their will. It will not end with the mandatory experimental virus jabs.

    I hope to God I am completely wrong.

  29. Roger Avatar
    Roger

    Pelosi in Rome.

    Why on earth is a rabidly pro-abortion politician being asked to do one of the Bibe readings in a parish mass in Rome after being granted a meeting with the pope?

  30. Cassie of Sydney Avatar
    Cassie of Sydney

    SCUMBAG MORRISON CAN FUCK OFF.

    This is his latest drivel…forget about “zero emissions”…..he and the Liberal party are heading for ZERO SEATS.

    “PM issues rally cry for nation to address climate change “together”

    Scott Morrison has issued a rallying cry for the nation to address the challenge of climate change “together”, saying reducing emissions is now a question of “how, not if”.

    Ahead of critical talks with Nationals leader Barnaby Joyce to hash out a net-zero by 2050 deal, the Prime Minister said there were “big opportunities” for regional and rural Australia.

    “Addressing climate change is a challenge that we must do together. As Prime Minister, it is my job to bring people together on dealing with this big change. The world is moving into a new energy economy. We all know that,” Mr Morrison said on Monday morning.

    Emerging from quarantine, Prime Minister Scott Morrison has welcomed New South Wales’ exit from lockdown. “This is the day so many have been looking forward to, the day when things we take for granted, we celebrate. Being with family and friends, getting a haircut, grabbing a meal together,

    “It is now a question of how, not if. And how is how we can ensure that those communities right across rural and regional Australia can look at this change and understand that there are big opportunities and there is a way through.”

    With the COP26 – the UN Climate Change Conference – summit in Glasgow at the end of the month, Mr Morrison is working towards a deal which will ensure regional and rural Australians don’t bear the brunt of the transition to a clean energy future.

    “My government is committed to ensuring that rural and regional Australia transitions to this new energy economy in the future stronger, with their jobs and communities intact and they can look forward with confidence and plan for the future with confidence,” he said.

    “We’ve got to come together on this issue. My government will come together on this issue. The country will come together on issue and we will tackle the challenges, just like we have tackled those challenges before this.”

    While senior members of his government have come out in favour of transitioning, the Nationals party room is split.

    As revealed in The Australian on Monday, The Nationals are pushing for clean energy investments to be spent in the regions and new powers to “pause” climate change action if rural communities display signs of suffering economic hardship.

    Victorian National MPs like Darren Chester and Michael McCormack are reportedly in favour of a net-zero target, but Queensland senator Matt Canavan has declared there is nothing which will sway him in favour of a deal.

    I ask again…why do we bother voting Liberal?

    I won’t be…..ever again.

  31. Fat Tony Avatar
    Fat Tony

    But there are consequences, as there are for those who have chosen not to comply with an ”order” a ”mandate” for an experimental medical procedure.

    It’s not ” experimental ” – they know exactly what it is and what it does. And it’s nothing good for us peasants.

  32. Gab Avatar
    Gab

    Fat Tony, not disagreeing with you, but using it in the context that these vaxes have not been fully approved by the TGA in terms of safety and long-term effects, because there is no data.

  33. Roger Avatar
    Roger

    When Morrison loses the next election over AGW do you suppose Peter Dutton will get the message?

  34. calli Avatar
    calli

    do you suppose Peter Dutton will get the message?

    No. It will be the voters’ fault.

  35. Gilas Avatar
    Gilas

    Copied from the old thread:

    Rorschach says:
    October 11, 2021 at 12:34 pm

    This video is dated 2/10/21. Dr Peter McCullough at the MPH speaks at the 78th Annual Meeting of the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons:

    I cannot fault any of his assessments of the data presented.
    His explanation of the incredible stupidity of a vaccination program early during a pandemic was particularly good, not something that is widely known.
    It explains the almost complete evolution to the current Delta variant in the US, with concomitant reductions of 50+% in vax efficacy when compared to the early Alpha strains.

    Overall, a brilliant summary of the complete takeover of the FDA and CDC by the crony capitalists over two full US administrations. We probably need to go back to FDR’s New Deal to find greater corruption of Federal Instrumentalities, but more knowledgeable Cats might correct me on this.

    At least there are highly competent, decent physicians speaking out in the US at a major conference.
    In Australia we have Colleges complicit in the false narrative, and State Medical Councils (not AHPRA..) threatening disciplinary action for medicos deviating from it.
    Some more of that “larrikin” Aussie spirit we’ve come to appreciate in the last 18 months…

  36. Megan Avatar
    Megan

    Matt Canavan may well be the only Liberal seat in the next parliament.
    ScoMo is an underwhelming ignorant moron puppet installed by that other vile assassin, the Turdbullist, to ensure his plan of total Liberal Party destruction is complete.

    Fat Clive pulling off the impossible and replacing the LNP with the UAP would be a fitting outcome for these unthinking parasitical dickheads. And I’m no longer sure that it is outside the realms of possibility.

  37. mem Avatar
    mem

    Have been watching the IBAC live hearing. Have learned a lot about how branch stacking works. But then read that the stream was eating up about a gigawatt an hour. They’re not exactly ripping through the material; slow and methodical. I’ll wait for the juicy bits to come up before logging back in.

  38. Gilas Avatar
    Gilas

    Plasmamortar says:
    October 11, 2021 at 1:13 pm

    Agreed

    Talking to a couple of workers on site today.
    They have swallowed the lie that it is “the unvaccinated” that are holding us all back now.
    They don’t understand when I explain to them that it was the government that stole their freedom, no their fellow man, yet they believe their fellow man is the problem…

    It’s worrying how people do not see, even with the information spelled out for them.

    Yes, this was clearly well known last century, at least, but human stupidity and the propensity for herd behaviour is probably infinite. Einstein said something on this.

    And, propaganda wouldn’t exist if it didn’t work.

  39. Cassie of Sydney Avatar
    Cassie of Sydney

    For over a decade now the useless Liberal party has sat back and done nothing to curb this climate hysteria and the garbage about renewables and zero emissions. They will reap what they sow……zero seats.

    Scumbag Morrison’s historical legacy will be quite significant, a legacy of pure destruction. The Scumbag has destroyed our federation, he’s destroyed our liberties and he’s in the process of destroying the Liberal party.

  40. Bar Beach Swimmer Avatar
    Bar Beach Swimmer

    Wow! You can still smell the beeswax polish on the tables and the fresh paint

    If only all of us could enter as free Australian citizens.

  41. Diogenes Avatar
    Diogenes

    Try and make me change my mind.

    No chance. Spoke with my ex office mate on the Central Coast this morning. He called it a prick tease Clayton’s freedom. Basically for the double vaxxed the restrictions are like at the start of this bullshit 12 weeks ago

  42. JC Avatar

    Gilas

    I cannot fault any of his assessments of the data presented.
    His explanation of the incredible stupidity of a vaccination program early during a pandemic was particularly good, not something that is widely known.

    I’m sure there were elements of the program that looking back appear to be senselessly stupid, but the big picture, in my mind , is how incredible the process was from recognizing there was a pandemic, then acting quickly to find and remedy and the logistics of getting this stuff to billions of punters. This has been a truly incredible thing to watch and most of the initial hard yards was overseen/guided by Trump.
    It’s been an amazing effort. There were faults along the way.. sure.

  43. feelthebern Avatar
    feelthebern

    SCUMBAG MORRISON CAN FUCK OFF.

    Liberty quote.

  44. Fat Tony Avatar
    Fat Tony

    Gab: because there is no data.

    Actually, I think there is plenty of data – provided by the CCP’s testing on Uighurs & others.

  45. Brislurker Avatar
    Brislurker

    The biggest shock to me with the covid disaster has been how absolutely terrified people are of it. The scaremongering by the media and government has been so over the top, but they have succeeded in terrifying the public in to doing what they order, regardless of the stupidity of it,
    ie Andrews drink with a mask on.

    All they see are the numbers on TV and in the papers and go no further to see the truth behind the figures. The fact that 98% who get covid fully recover is not on their horizon, the media and government has successfully buried the true facts.

  46. Rorschach Avatar
    Rorschach

    There is no evidence that the mRNA vaxxes are dangerous to pregnant mums and unborn…

    Yes … that is because the studies that were used to get the emergency authorisation EXPLICITLY excluded any of these!!! Spinnin the narrative:

    Read / listen / weep … from SA Health:

    Vaccination is the best way to reduce yours and your baby’s risk of becoming seriously unwell with COVID-19.

    https://twitter.com/sahealth/status/1447286058245259268?s=21

  47. JC Avatar

    Hiden won’t be able to attend a sports event without masses of folks chanting , “Let’s go Brandon”.

    Freaking hilarious. The most popular chant in America.

  48. Knuckle Dragger Avatar
    Knuckle Dragger

    “Addressing climate change is a challenge that we must do together. As Prime Minister, it is my job to bring people together on dealing with this big change. The world is moving into a new energy economy. We all know that,” Mr Morrison said on Monday morning.

    Weren’t the last THREE Federal elections run and won on both business and the punters saying they wanted nothing to do with this monumentally expensive and inefficient waste of everyone’s cash except the folding stuff in Parliamentarians’ wallets, which is apparently sacrosanct?

  49. feelthebern Avatar
    feelthebern

    Even Chewie doesn’t like Biden.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FD9rlb1QAqM

  50. Gab Avatar
    Gab

    Australia Number of deaths attributed to the virus since February 2020 to now: 1448

    Australia number of reported deaths from the vaxes, March 2021 to Sept 27 2021: 560

    TGA DEAN site

  51. JC Avatar

    Rorschach

    Kids have been born now from sheilas receiving the vax at the beginning of the year. Have any kids been born with three heads and 7 arms? 🙂

    In all seriousness what’s the prognosis for this rug rats as there’s been a decent number born with the mother carrying the vax.

  52. Roger Avatar
    Roger

    Einstein said something on this.

    He made his observation about herd behaviour in regard to the Chinese.

    The virus has revealed that we’re all Chinese now (except for the Swedes, that is).

    Watch for panicked calls for more lockdowns as case numbers rise following openings and Lambda and other variants inevitably arrive on our shores.

  53. Rorschach Avatar
    Rorschach

    This has been a truly incredible thing to watch

    Especially if you invested in Pfizer / Moderna etc… eh? It is an incredible thing to watch … but I would reserve judgement JC. The investors will have blood on their hands. It is a matter of ethics. Ultimately they are the ones that are baying for more profit even at the irrefutable cost of countless thousands of unnecessary dead [Already and who knows how many into the future!]

  54. Rorschach Avatar
    Rorschach

    Kids have been born now from sheilas receiving the vax at the beginning of the year. Have any kids been born with three heads and 7 arms?

    Well even if they had the RULES say that it could not have been the vaxx … Only an adverse side effect is officially recognised if it happens in the first day or two. Otherwise something else… 😉

  55. Dot Avatar

    Reposted from the old fred.

    As is tradition in Canada.

    LET’S GO BRANDON!

    Top 4573rd!!!

  56. Zipster Avatar
    Zipster

    Let’s go Brendon.

    th emost popular president in US history!

  57. feelthebern Avatar
    feelthebern

    Biden got more votes than Obama did in 2008.

  58. Baba Avatar
    Baba

    In all seriousness what’s the prognosis for this rug rats as there’s been a decent number born with the mother carrying the vax.

    It’s not even the middle of the 10th month. How many women under 45 were vaxxed before March?

  59. feelthebern Avatar
    feelthebern

    ICAC is leaking stories now about Gladys.
    Expect new allegations re Gladys & Maguire to get legacy media coverage over the next 24 hours.

    Holding politicians to account is one thing.
    It’s another when they are one sided & are unaccountable.

  60. JC Avatar

    Rorschach

    I think we all need to be a little wary of not under-dramatizing what was happening last year and what made people very worried. Don’t forget, that in the early part, when this Chinese bio-weapon was getting into full swing mortality in places like Northern Italy, New York etc caused bodies to pile up so quickly that people who died then were dumped in mass graves. That scared the living shit out or people.
    My kid lived near one of the large NYC teaching hospitals and she saw bodies filing out and placed in line on stretchers to be taken and dumped on those mass graves.
    We know a little bit more about it now.

    Generally, we find out if a vax is dangerous after a three months and generally it looks okay.

    Also, look at revealed preferences are the specialist docs who are either dealing or researching the Chinese bio-weapon being vaxxed? Other than rogue docs, I suspect most are.

  61. feelthebern Avatar
    feelthebern

    ICAC are leaking claims that haven’t even been put to Gladys or Maguire.
    Pure filth.
    And now the legacy media will amplify.

  62. Gilas Avatar
    Gilas

    JC says:
    October 11, 2021 at 2:03 pm

    I’m sure there were elements of the program that looking back appear to be senselessly stupid, but the big picture, in my mind , is how incredible the process was from recognizing there was a pandemic, then acting quickly to find and remedy and the logistics of getting this stuff to billions of punters. This has been a truly incredible thing to watch and most of the initial hard yards was overseen/guided by Trump.
    It’s been an amazing effort. There were faults along the way.. sure.

    My recollection is that the “pandemic” word was used as early as mid-late January 2020, well before the proverbial hit the fan.
    Saner minds, many on the Old Cat, correctly described the way to deal with this, based on massive amounts of medical, epidemiological and Public Health experience, dating back to the 19thC:
    Find the primary source,
    limit its spread,
    plan on protecting the most vulnerable (old and immunosuppressed),
    and
    prioritise well-known and tried supportive treatments (mostly respiratory supports and maybe steroids for suppression of inflammation), remember portable ventilators?

    A death toll was unavoidable but, hey, this was not Ebola, Rabies or Variola. It was always unlikely to be high, a huge majority would have mild or moderate disease and develop primary immunity.

    All that was hijacked by vested interests, doom-mongering governments and their enablers.
    China did its thing and allowed international travel, the West did its thing, pandering to the lunatic woke anti-racists, containment measures were subverted (eg. air travel, Ruby Princess, nursing homes), the focus on vaccination, rather than early supportive therapies for a relatively mild disease. And the rest is history.

    Trump did all the right things, except that, at all times, he was simply listening to “experts” who had other agendas.

    I never heard it explained so well, the point made by McCullough about the risks of vaxing early during a pandemic. It should be taught in first-year Med.

  63. JC Avatar

    We know a little bit more about it now.

    In the US vaxxing began in January.
    So baba, Jan, feb, march, apr, may, june, july, aug, sept, and now oct. There’s 9 months there somewhere and there would be a decent, but smallish sample to work with. If even a single rug rat was dropped with 5 heads and 24 arms we’d be hearing about it.

    Also, there would have been serious testing and shit going on before birth for the simple reason that if the kid was not perfect, lots of sheilas these days would have had the kid hoovered. After the hoovering there would have been mega research carried out of the hoovered kid.

    I says it’s a very small concern until there’s something eye-opening happening.

  64. feelthebern Avatar
    feelthebern

    The public hearings into what Gladys resigned for start next week.
    I’m not all over ICAC.
    Can lawyers for Gladys ask for an investigation into the ICAC leaks?
    ICAC do this for a week & Gladys can only say no comment.
    Total c-word behaviour.

  65. local oaf Avatar
    local oaf

    Biden got more votes than Obama did in 2008.

    Maybe his were delivered in bigger suitcases?

  66. JC Avatar

    Whoops

    Also, look at revealed preferences.Are the specialist docs who are either dealing or researching the Chinese bio-weapon being vaxxed? Other than rogue docs, I suspect most are.

  67. Gilas Avatar
    Gilas

    Roger says:
    October 11, 2021 at 2:17 pm
    Watch for panicked calls for more lockdowns as case numbers rise following openings and Lambda and other variants inevitably arrive on our shores.

    As certain as elliptical orbits around the Sun.

  68. Farmer Gez Avatar
    Farmer Gez

    We can only hope that they’re right and the messenger RNA put into bodies degrades and doesn’t start interacting back to DNA.
    Wouldn’t want to see things like changes in gene expression because the nano wrigglers have interfered with genes switching.
    The Revenge of the Syndromes.

  69. JC Avatar

    Not. ONE. SINGLE. THING. HERE. THAT. ISN’T TRUE.

    President Trump laid out perfectly Joe Biden and the Democrat majority’s record of total destruction.

    President Trump: After just nine months under Biden —
    ** Violent criminals and bloodthirsty gangs are taking over our streets
    ** Illegal aliens and deadly drug cartels are taking over our borders
    ** Inflation is taking over our economy
    ** China is taking over our jobs
    ** The Taliban has taken over Afghanistan
    ** Lunatic leftists are taking over our schools
    ** Radical socialists are taking over our country

  70. Armadillo Avatar
    Armadillo

    So, I understand that we will shortly all have personal QR codes — unique identifiers — embedded in our digital vaccine certificate.

    Lots of businesses have said they aren’t going to be asking to look at the “Vax Certificate”. However, if you Q code in or out of some joint, the plod will know. Are they going to fine you or the business owner. Or both?

  71. Armadillo Avatar
    Armadillo

    Aussie Cossack has been released from custody…..

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOWISX0c7vo&t=3287s

  72. Timothy Neilson Avatar
    Timothy Neilson

    Kids have been born now from sheilas receiving the vax at the beginning of the year. Have any kids been born with three heads and 7 arms? ?

    In all seriousness what’s the prognosis for this rug rats as there’s been a decent number born with the mother carrying the vax.

    It’s not just whether they’re ok after they’re born, which (as Rorschach says) we don’t know yet.
    It’s whether they survive till “birth”.
    Remember that NEJM survey which showed a “preliminary” result of 115 lost kids out of 147 pregnancies where the mother got the jab in the first or second trimester?
    When that was highlighted in social media there was a lot of harrumphing by “fact checkers” who stated that until the full survey was complete no conclusions should be drawn. That’s no doubt true, and there may be good reasons to think that the “preliminary” results were in some way skewed by virtue of being preliminary, but quite what those reasons are was never clearly explained as far as I’m aware.
    Anyway, the survey was of pregnancies reported from 14 December to 28 February, so allowing for at least a couple of weeks for the woman to actually realise she’s pregnant and have that recorded in the health stats, they ought to be getting their final data in the next 5 to 6 weeks. It will be interesting to see what (if anything) is actually finally published.

  73. JC Avatar

    Lots of businesses have said they aren’t going to be asking to look at the “Vax Certificate”. However, if you Q code in or out of some joint, the plod will know. Are they going to fine you or the business owner. Or both?

    I haven’t Q coded for ages now and I’ve only been asked to do so once and I complied. In fact, I’ve seen very few people doing so. No one gives a shit anymore.

  74. Farmer Gez Avatar
    Farmer Gez

    Are they going to fine you or the business owner. Or both?

    A business model for medical apartheid right there.

  75. P Avatar
    P

    Are they going to fine you or the business owner. Or both?

    The business owner $5,000 per person, and the person offending $1,000.

  76. Armadillo Avatar
    Armadillo

    Aussie Cossack explains his links to Russia….

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pI-UtHaE1U

  77. Fat Tony Avatar
    Fat Tony

    JC – look up “black-eyed babies”

  78. JC Avatar

    Neilson

    It’s not just whether they’re ok after they’re born, which (as Rorschach says) we don’t know yet.

    Pregnant women have been vaxxed. Vaxxing began in the US in early January. This means pregnant sheilas were vaxxed and lots of kids have been born with their mothers vaxxed.

    I appreciate it may be difficult for you to understand this because in your species it could be different, but the gestation period for humans is around 9 months. The US began to vax in January so there have been kids born to fully vaxxed mothers, dumphfried.

    It’s whether they survive till “birth”.

    They already fucking have and if there was out of the ordinary losses, we would have heard about it. We haven’t, so there hasn’t been.

    Remember that NEJM survey which showed a “preliminary” result of 115 lost kids out of 147 pregnancies where the mother got the jab in the first or second trimester?

    Nope.

    Anyway, the survey was of pregnancies reported from 14 December to 28 February, so allowing for at least a couple of weeks for the woman to actually realise she’s pregnant and have that recorded in the health stats, they ought to be getting their final data in the next 5 to 6 weeks. It will be interesting to see what (if anything) is actually finally published.

    There were American women vaxxed throughout the term of their pregnancies from January onwards, when vaxxing began. We would have read about shit going askew. We haven’t, so remain silent until there is or you find something we’ve missed.

  79. shatterzzz Avatar
    shatterzzz

    How amateurish can the NSW gummint get?
    Received a letter today from NSW Housing, return address Wollongong, for whatever reason as I live in Fairfield, anyway it’s, of course, about BAT FLU and PLEADING wiv me to get vaxxed, if I’m not already .. pointing out the danger(s) I am to others …..
    All, well & good, addressed to me personally & signed by …
    Paul Vevers, who apparently is, Deputy Secretary, Housing, Disability & District Services …
    Makes me wonder why tho, as he knows who I am and where I live, he also needed to include copies (I’m guessing here) of the letter in 14 different languages .. LOL!

  80. JC Avatar

    Fat Tony says:
    October 11, 2021 at 3:08 pm

    JC – look up “black-eyed babies”

    I haven’t watch the latest MEN IN BLACK movie, Fats. 🙂

    Men in black apparently all have black eyes – not from fighting either.

  81. Rorschach Avatar
    Rorschach

    However, if you Q code in or out of some joint, the plod will know.

    Yes … This is an interesting consideration. Does the plod have legal rights to access this data? I understood that it was meant to be confidential to be used ONLY for contact tracing.

    [I however suspect that all this is going / has gone out the window as people are being charged fro NOT Q coding into premisses – so they (the plod) MUST have access to check]

  82. Dot Avatar

    I appreciate it may be difficult for you to understand this because in your species it could be different, but the gestation period for humans is around 9 months.

    JC

    We thought thalidomide was safe but we didn’t know that the safe chiral isomer also forms the unsafe chiral isomer until they are in equilibrium 1:1 in the human body.

    If COVID was not totally politicised, mRNA vaccines getting a run past animal trials now would be very unlikely.

    Wait and see. Okay.

    Being forced to take something like this is wrong.

  83. Armadillo Avatar
    Armadillo

    I appreciate it may be difficult for you to understand this because in your species it could be different, but the gestation period for humans is around 9 months.

    Now, that’s pretty funny [insert smiley face here]

  84. John of Mel Avatar
    John of Mel

    Inflation, Afghanistan disaster, Biden, all in a rap song? This guy’s got it.

  85. Mak Siccar Avatar
    Mak Siccar

    I’m a fan of James Allan. His dissection of our treasonous PM is spot on.

    https://spectator.com.au/2021/10/scomos-to-blame-nobody-else/

  86. Zipster Avatar
    Zipster

    Makes me wonder why tho, as he knows who I am and where I live, he also needed to include copies (I’m guessing here) of the letter in 14 different languages

    but how many genders?

  87. JC Avatar

    We thought thalidomide was safe

    Yes, that was one. One, Dot.

    Let me repeat: an American sheila didn’t have to be up the duff around the time she was jabbed in January.. ( I’m talking about the vax of course you filthy minded creature). She could have been carrying 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1 months in January 21 when vaxxing began in the US. We’ve had a host of kids jumping out of the birth canal since then.

    Some of you are asking me questions, so let me ask you. How many kids this year born to vaxxed mas are showing problems?

  88. Miss Anthropist Avatar
    Miss Anthropist

    I am terrified of all the frankenvaxxed walking amongst us.
    Ticking time bombs ready to go off at anytime.

  89. GreyRanga Avatar
    GreyRanga

    ScoMo is an underwhelming ignorant moron puppet installed by that other vile assassin, the Turdbullist, to ensure his plan of total Liberal Party destruction is complete.

    Scomoron takes that as praise and everyone is onboard.

  90. Dot Avatar

    Some of you are asking me questions, so let me ask you. How many kids this year born to vaxxed mas are showing problems?

    Known genetic diseases can take a few years to show up, unless tested for.

    This is one instance the “precautionary principle” makes sense, what does Adam Bandt say? Like the low rent fool he is, GeT tHe FuCkkEN VaXx!!1

  91. Timothy Neilson Avatar
    Timothy Neilson

    JCsays:
    October 11, 2021 at 3:09 pm

    Sigh.
    I should have known that it was a waste of time trying to reason politely with Josemite Çam.

    I appreciate it may be difficult for you to understand this because in your species it could be different, but the gestation period for humans is around 9 months. The US began to vax in January so there have been kids born to fully vaxxed mothers, dumphfried.

    Which part of “we don’t know yet” don’t you understand? Not every health problem of a baby is immediately apparent when it sticks it’s head out of the birth canal. For example if it has a compromised immune system that may not show up for a while – and data on the vaxxed v unvaxxed mothers’ kids may take quite a while to be put together.
    And, just so it’s clear, I’m not saying they will have compromised immune systems – just that we don’t know.

    They already fucking have and if there was out of the ordinary losses, we would have heard about it. We haven’t, so there hasn’t been.

    “They” includes the 32 in the NEJM preliminary results who survived, but not the 115 who didn’t. As I said, NEJM haven’t finished their survey, so why would you expect the losses “already” to have been reported. Again, to be clear, I’m not making any prediction, just pointing out that “already” is premature.

    Nope.

    So you’ll take my word for it that it proves you totally wrong?
    [Just kidding – it doesn’t yet and may never do so for all the reasons I set out in my comment.]

    “…so remain silent until there is or you find something we’ve missed.”

    Well, you obviously missed the NEJM survey preliminary report, so you’re now better informed (if no wiser). Don’t blame me that they chose to release their preliminary findings.

  92. jupes Avatar
    jupes

    FMD they are just dialing in the climate fear now. Check out this article.

    BOM severe weather outlook for 2021 to 2022 forecasts heightened risk of flood and cyclones

    No, that is a lie. The dickhead admits there is no evidence that most of the scary climate events are likely to happen, but hey, they just might so best to scare the kiddies anyway.

  93. Sancho Panzer Avatar
    Sancho Panzer

    rickw.
    Exchange everything in writing and demand to know the precise legal reasons for dismissal.

  94. Tom Avatar
    Tom

    Top 100 (just)!

  95. rickw Avatar
    rickw

    Does anyone know a good employment lawyer? Needs to have ability to handle 30 to 40 equivalent cases, that’s my estimate of like minded individuals.

    Company is US based multinational. Head office in Texas. They wouldn’t try this shit in Texas.

  96. Megan Avatar
    Megan

    What is concerning, and I have seen very, very little written or spoken about it anywhere in the approved media, is the fact that our zero COVID, locked down, border bubble and quick vaccinate policy has seriously limited our ability to build any effective sort of herd immunity in Australia. Sweden seems to have managed it through ‘front loading’ the damage rather than forcing everyone to hide under the doona.

    Much is being made now of how natural immunity from exposure to the disease is far more efficacious than any vaccine. Going on Vic figures alone where only 50,000 of our 5 million plus inhabitants have tested positive to C19 and now have natural immunity it’s clear than less than 1% are in that category. And 50,000 is a big enough cohort to be able to extrapolate that out to the whole country. Realistically though, I think you could say that apart from NSW the percentage of natural immunity in the other states is probably even lower because their case loads are significantly lower.

    I’m not trying to catastrophise here but my curious mind has all sorts of questions about what happens when we open up, even if it’s just to the fully vaccinated. It’s clear that C19 is here to stay and must be lived with. Given that situation I can see a host of if-when, if-then and if-but scenarios rolling over the CHOs and the elected dum-dum dummies pretending to be in charge. I don’t know the answers and I suspect either does anyone else although there does seem to be a lot of well researched and feasible guesses about.

  97. JC Avatar

    Known genetic diseases can take a few years to show up, unless tested for.

    Dot,

    You really think that a stat/research crazy country like the US they’re not at the very least sample testing kids throughout this year to vaxxed mothers? I bet they’ve thrown the kitchen sink at it. That’s a place where they would research and write scholarly papers about a couple of fucking flies walking up a wall

  98. Sancho Panzer Avatar
    Sancho Panzer

    For those wondering about IBAC in Victoria going after an ALP member.
    Firstly, he was pretty much done cold on a video leaked to the Age.
    Secondly, the main target is from the ALP right faction, the sworn enemies of Hunchback, hence the Age’s keenness to wade in.

  99. srr Avatar
    srr

    Fat Tony says:
    October 11, 2021 at 3:08 pm

    JC – look up “black-eyed babies”

    It’s getting harder to find.

  100. Mother Lode Avatar
    Mother Lode

    Freaking hilarious. The most popular chant in America.

    It’s great.

    Not just expressing contempt of Biden, but of the suck up media trying to protect him.

  101. JC Avatar

    Does anyone know a good employment lawyer?

    Yes anyone with “fried” or “stein” as part of their last name. Basically any Jewish (labor) lawyer that looks like Trump’s personal lawyer, Jay Sekulow?
    God put Jews on earth to act as lawyers for gentiles and win.

  102. JC Avatar

    JC – look up “black-eyed babies”

    Fat’s Black Eyed Peas changed their stage name?

  103. Roger Avatar
    Roger

    What is concerning, and I have seen very, very little written or spoken about it anywhere in the approved media, is the fact that our zero COVID, locked down, border bubble and quick vaccinate policy has seriously limited our ability to build any effective sort of herd immunity in Australia.

    Megan, I don’t suppose Quadrant is “approved media” but Emeritus Professor Robert Clancy has an excellent piece on the situation we now face and the options available (ivermectin!) at their on-line page.

    (And he is an officially recognised expert too!)

  104. MatrixTransform Avatar
    MatrixTransform

    Have any kids been born with three heads and 7 arms?

    how many will be enough?

  105. Rorschach Avatar
    Rorschach

    BOM severe weather outlook for 2021 to 2022 forecasts heightened risk of flood and cyclones

    No, that is a lie. The dickhead admits there is no evidence that most of the scary climate events are likely to happen, but hey, they just might so best to scare the kiddies anyway.

    We are heading into a La Nina summer… historically (on the east coast certainly) this means more rain and more land-crossing cycles. Fact.

  106. srr Avatar
    srr

    O.K. something’s changed –

    srrsays:
    October 11, 2021 at 3:41 pm

    Fat Tony says:
    October 11, 2021 at 3:08 pm

    JC – look up “black-eyed babies”

    It’s getting harder to find.

    Son & I gave up looking for these a few days ago as only the one bad post was coming up pages into searches, now from first result down they’re all “black eyed baby” links –

    La Quinta Columna on more on Black-Eyed Babies (Pandemic Babies)
    SEPTEMBER 28, 2021 (includes video of many black eyed babies)
    https://www.orwell.city/2021/09/black-eyed-babies.html

  107. Diogenes Avatar
    Diogenes

    ? I bet they’ve thrown the kitchen sink at it. That’s a place where they would research and write scholarly papers about a couple of fucking flies walking up a wall

    But would they dare publish anything that goes against the orthodoxy?

  108. Farmer Gez Avatar
    Farmer Gez

    In the west, a negative IOD is starting to break up; to the north there are warm waters, and to the east, a La Niña is threatening to form.

    “So, all of those factors basically make us feel pretty confident that we’re likely to see average to above-average rainfall, particularly over northern and eastern parts of the country during spring and into summer.”

    Threaten away La Niña.
    This is bad in what possible way?

  109. JC Avatar

    Diogenes

    All doctors are arrogant fucks and American docs especially. If there was somehting worrying creeping up about kids, we would know about it by now.

  110. Farmer Gez Avatar
    Farmer Gez

    Interesting to hear business owners in NSW saying the vaxx check is a bit weird but not too bad, and it’ll only be there until Dec 1st.
    I wonder what Santa is bringing them for Xmas?
    A rude shock is my guess.

  111. shatterzzz Avatar
    shatterzzz

    Watched a very good WW2 movie last night on the recommendation of my youngest daughter, a surprise as I had no idea she ever watched war movies …. THE ZOOKEEPER’S WIFE ..
    https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1730768/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1
    Very surprised it has slipped thru the censors for both Oz Federal & State gummints as it contains frequent disobedience & denigrating of the ruling (Nazi) overlords ………

  112. Dr Faustus Avatar
    Dr Faustus

    I’m a fan of James Allan. His dissection of our treasonous PM is spot on.

    Yes indeed, and yes it is.

    And polling supports the political rationale behind James Allen’s version of Morrison the spineless.

    1) Australians are overwhelmingly conservative and fearful about Covid. The Swedish ‘live with it’ model has no traction with most voters;

    2) State governments are generally viewed as having done either a net good job – or in the case of WA, SA, and Qld, a red hot job – in protecting their voters from Covid Doom;

    3) Morrison’s hands-off approach is viewed as not great, but not terrible either.

    Getting to the election relatively unscathed electorally is the intended political payoff for the ‘all care but no responsibility’ strategy.

    Big payoff for fluffing around for two years and inflicting, or permitting literally immeasurable damage on Australia.

  113. mem Avatar
    mem

    It seems that Covid 19 is not such a big deal anymore in Britain. The flu is coming for you next. https://dailysceptic.org/todays-update/

  114. MatrixTransform Avatar
    MatrixTransform

    Going on Vic figures alone where only 50,000 of our 5 million plus inhabitants have tested positive to C19 and now have natural immunity it’s clear than less than 1% are in that category.

    the 50k are confirmed cases in Vik

    Apparently, according to Nanna-Central (Spring St), we have Asymtomatic Zombies walking among us.

    If that is true then the number with natural immunity will be vastly bigger than 1%
    You never know … It might even be approaching 98% this year

    Still better do a precautionary cull of small-business just to be sure

    https://www.cebm.net/covid-19/covid-19-what-proportion-are-asymptomatic/

  115. feelthebern Avatar
    feelthebern

    “So, all of those factors basically make us feel pretty confident that we’re likely to see average to above-average rainfall, particularly over northern and eastern parts of the country during spring and into summer.”

    Really?
    The guy who’s forecasting I follow is saying the complete opposite.

  116. Gilas Avatar
    Gilas

    rickw says:
    October 11, 2021 at 3:38 pm

    Does anyone know a good employment lawyer? Needs to have ability to handle 30 to 40 equivalent cases, that’s my estimate of like minded individuals.

    McDonald Murholme – 03 9650 4555
    Large firm with the resources needed.
    Used to advertise on 2GB before it veered left.

  117. srr Avatar
    srr

    John of Melsays:
    October 11, 2021 at 3:16 pm

    Inflation, Afghanistan disaster, Biden, all in a rap song? This guy’s got it.

    And even better than that, you can understand every word he says 🙂
    “46= 13” by
    Samson
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sB_T54wg9KI

  118. areff Avatar
    areff

    Posted by accident on the old thread and replayed here with apologies:

    Faustus: I’m no Julius Sumner Miller, so pardon my ignorance in thinking there are other means of extracting hydrogen. Isn’t one by some or other process that ‘steams’ coal? The hydrogen plant is in Gladstone, which prompts ‘coal’ as the first word to mind.

    If any Cats, preferably those not booted out of Fifth Form science and told never to return, could banish my ignorance it would be appreciated. I suspect that whatever process they use there will be more energy going into the process than is produced.

    If the intention is to extract hydrogen from coal, oh the energy-intensive irony.

  119. Boambee John Avatar
    Boambee John

    From the Old Thread

    Indolentsays:
    October 11, 2021 at 3:55 pm
    Tommy Robinson – Australia has entered full communism!

    And he’s not kidding.

    But not technically correct.

    This is a collaboration between Big Government and Big Business, which makes it full-on fascism.

  120. Rorschach Avatar
    Rorschach

    ? I bet they’ve thrown the kitchen sink at it. That’s a place where they would research and write scholarly papers about a couple of fucking flies walking up a wall

    But would they dare publish anything that goes against the orthodoxy?

    The “Journals” will not publish anything that goes against the “orthodoxy”. Merck was asked if they wanted to participate in a Japanese Uni study of Ivermectin (which they make) effectiveness v COVID – a full double blind control study … that included the Jap Professor that invented the thing (for which he got the Nobel!). And? No thank you – not interested.

  121. Mother Lode Avatar
    Mother Lode

    Is there any evidence that the vaccines get to the baby? The champions of vaccine mandates would surely be claiming this as a victory – and they aren’t.

    My understanding is that the mRNA produced naturally in the cells breaks down after it is used by the ribosome – not surprising that the processes they impact in turn impact them.

    There are a lot of claims about coming from both sides, some of which are doubtless valid and others…promoted more for resonating with existing convictions than for their epistemological integrity, shall we say.

    Even if you accept that vaccine side effects are being suppressed (and I can see why the people badgering us to roll up our sleeves would want to do that – they are none of them admirable characters) there are still relatively few cases of side effects. More than other vaccines? I would guess yes, but they are also rare because they are used judiciously, which is not how I would describe the current mandates. The talk about long term effects seems to me currently to be more speculation – anecdotes aspiring to be data.

    Simply put I think Covid nowhere near problem it has been built up to be, and much the same with he vaccines.

    Mandates are a problem. That a government felt entitled to lock people in their homes is a problem. That they all robotically reached for the heaviest and clumsiest instrument they could find (lockdowns) which they have wielded with such devastating collateral damage, rather than something targeted toward vulnerable populations, and the fact our leaders think not only that they have done a good job but that they are deserving of boundless gratitude is hilarious and a big problem. That they have been content to sideline personal objections because bureaucracy lacks the visual acuity to see individuals is typical. And a problem. That all discussion of other treatments has been dealt with by a mix of childish taunts and censorship is pernicious. And a problem – and not just of government.

    And the readiness of people to dob on each other is revolting. Not really a problem because that is who they are and they are entitled to it, but a problem to live with. It is more sad.

  122. JC Avatar

    Rorschach

    Merck isn’t a doc. Lots of American docs hate pharma and pediatricians wouldn’t hold back if they thought kids were born with vax associated problems.

  123. Armadillo Avatar
    Armadillo

    Russell Brand talking about Australia…..

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubsoMhunu-U

  124. Dr Faustus Avatar
    Dr Faustus

    Faustus: I’m no Julius Sumner Miller, so pardon my ignorance in thinking there are other means of extracting hydrogen. Isn’t one by some or other process that ‘steams’ coal? The hydrogen plant is in Gladstone, which prompts ‘coal’ as the first word to mind.

    No ignorance there.
    Town gas, which typically contained 35%+ hydrogen, was/is produced from coal.

    Most hydrogen today is produced by steam reforming natural gas.

    No idea about the Twiggy dunning scheme. At this stage it just looks like they plan to manufacture electrolytic cells.

  125. Rorschach Avatar
    Rorschach

    Really?
    The guy who’s forecasting I follow is saying the complete opposite.

    Hmmm … not sure what he’s (I presume) seeing.

    The La Nina threshold is +ve 7 and both the 30 day [+10.71] and the 90 day [+9.06] are solidly above that… A really good indicator.

    https://www.longpaddock.qld.gov.au/soi/

    The 3-Month Running Means of SST Anomalies in the Niño 3.4 Region is also negative at -0.46°C … whilst not super low, again indicative of a trend to La Nina…

    https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/teleconnections/enso/indicators/sst/

  126. Roger Avatar
    Roger

    I suspect that whatever process they use there will be more energy going into the process than is produced.

    Early days, but the hydrogen produced will be “green”, so presumably the energy source for the plant will be solar or wind or both.

  127. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare Avatar
    Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    All this Covid crap and the way Australia is heading had me “comfort eating” — just bloody self-indulgent, I know. No more.

    Me too. And I am not yet ready to start the self-denial of yummy things that make it all better.
    I have felt emotionally incapacitated by lockdowns; can’t write anything serious, mooch around.
    I am awaiting the dawning moment that nothing fits except the trackie daks and loose T.

  128. Rex Anger Avatar
    Rex Anger

    Not every health problem of a baby is immediately apparent when it sticks it’s head out of the birth canal.

    I am a terrible person.

    This is the first thing I thought of when I read this sentence…

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SEEwAvlJOcI

    #Cheque,Please!

  129. Rex Anger Avatar
    Rex Anger

    Also,

    #NeverEatTheSpecial

  130. Arky Avatar
    Arky

    It’s better to use solar to produce hydrogen than to use it to further destabilise grids.

  131. Rorschach Avatar
    Rorschach

    Lots of American docs hate pharma and pediatricians wouldn’t hold back if they thought kids were born with vax associated problems.

    As a veteran participant in the on-line climate wars – I know that journals are gatekeepers for “science”… and if any one bucks the orthodoxy, they are ostracised and cancelled. Even senior folk get smashed. So no – the clinicians keep their head down. Particularly in the West. Only in places like Sth America and India – where there is a high standard of medicine but like zero resources do the clinicians speak up. [Of course – here there is very little vaccination as these countries just can’t afford the vaxxes – and (rightly) they go to the vulnerable old folk first – and these don’t typically get preggo]

    Did you actually watch the vid of Peter McCullough? It is a good hour spent.

    And if I had any investments in big Pharma – I would be thinking VERY seriously about offloading.

  132. Megan Avatar
    Megan

    For rickw: my favourite employment lawyer is Glenys Jardine who I am glad to say has not retired but is now a barrister with the same speciality so probably much more $$$ involved. 92257888 and 0414256650

    If she’s not suitable can also recommend Paul Horvath at PH Solicitors. 9642 0435

  133. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare Avatar
    Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    What is concerning, and I have seen very, very little written or spoken about it anywhere in the approved media, is the fact that our zero COVID, locked down, border bubble and quick vaccinate policy has seriously limited our ability to build any effective sort of herd immunity in Australia.

    Megan, I don’t suppose Quadrant is “approved media” but Emeritus Professor Robert Clancy has an excellent piece on the situation we now face and the options available (ivermectin!) at their on-line page.

    Yes. It is a very good overview of our initial mistake in going straight for elimination.

    You will never eliminate a respiratory virus of this type. The only way through such an epidemic is via progressive and slow natural immunity being developed, with recoveries assisted by vaccines and/or treatments. Always was the way, and it still very largely is the way forward. Australia is well behind on the natural immunity side of things.

    As I said in March 2020, I had travelled before during epidemics and saw no apparent reason to curtail my international travel during this new one if I took some due precautions for self-protection. I had some concerns because this virus was new and sudden, but by April back in Australia I published my view that a lack of proportionality was apparent by then in the governmental response to Covid. This disproportionate response has got worse by tenfold since then. in so many aspects, what should have been done was not done and what was done should not have been done.

    There is no health in this.

  134. P Avatar
    P

    Russell Brand talking about Australia…..

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubsoMhunu-U

    Good one Armadillo and I especially like the title:
    “CRIMINALS IN OUR OWN HOMES!” Australia’s Lockdown ‘Nightmare’

  135. Sancho Panzer Avatar
    Sancho Panzer

    On the “Fuck Joe Biden” chants, the Demrats boosters are out with the “Fake News” claims.
    I see Reddit are running a “fact check” on whether the chants are real or sound overlays.
    The beauty is, their cover-up attempts have created a perfect environment for it to go viral (eg “Let’s go Braden”).
    Posting “Let’s go Braden” online or putting it on a t-shirt cannot be censored or filtered. And, if they do, it will only make it worse for Dementia Joe.

  136. Dr Faustus Avatar
    Dr Faustus

    It’s better to use solar to produce hydrogen than to use it to further destabilise grids.

    If the project sponsors are using their own money to play with solar hydrogen – and end up as 21st century renewable Vanderbilts – good on them.

    If my money is involved, particularly at the 100% loss risk stage, I want my full tote share.

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    Fair Shake

    Victoria’s IBAC inquiry into allegations of Labor Party branch stacking has taken just under five hours to claim its first ministerial scalp with the resignation from the Andrews government ministry of Disability, Ageing and Carers and Child Protection Minister Luke Donnellan

    Unfit for office. They’re all in this together. Where’s the Governor?. Throw them all out …now!

  138. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare Avatar
    Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Remember that NEJM survey which showed a “preliminary” result of 115 lost kids out of 147 pregnancies where the mother got the jab in the first or second trimester?

    Nope.

    I’m a bit ‘nope’ there too, JC. I do remember someone putting up here a report about miscarriages that was absolutely a misreading of the data, where the contrasting population demographic data concerning miscarriages was being misinterpreted as data from the study population. Perhaps that is where these weird figures are coming from? It was such an elementary error I was astounded, for it showed the level of scientific incapability some of the anti-vaxxer population had. Not all of them, of course, but when such clear misinformation is peddled, it helps no-one sensible if it isn’t called out.

  139. feelthebern Avatar
    feelthebern

    Since Southwest has cancelled so many flights, there are screenshots on twitter of $400 flights now going for $2000 a pop.
    Lots of happy punters.
    LOL.

  140. Timothy Neilson Avatar
    Timothy Neilson

    where the contrasting population demographic data concerning miscarriages was being misinterpreted as data from the study population

    That certainly wasn’t what social media commenters were saying about the NEJM study. They were absolutely referring only to the 847 “preliminary” sample who had been vaxxed during pregnancy, the 700 within that 847 who’d been vaxxed in the third trimester and the 115 babies among the 847 which had been lost before week 26 – which by inexorable logic must have come from the 147 who’d been vaxxed in the first or second trimester.
    Maybe it was another study. Or maybe there were some handwaving “fact checkers” who were trying to misrepresent what social media were talking about.

  141. Bar Beach Swimmer Avatar
    Bar Beach Swimmer

    JC @ 2:03pm

    I’m sure there were elements of the program that looking back appear to be senselessly stupid, but the big picture, in my mind , is how incredible the process was from recognizing there was a pandemic, then acting quickly to find and remedy and the logistics of getting this stuff to billions of punters. This has been a truly incredible thing to watch and most of the initial hard yards was overseen/guided by Trump.
    It’s been an amazing effort. There were faults along the way.. sure.

    JC, if you watched McCullough’s presentation you would know that all of the usual protocols for vaccination efficacy are based solely on safety. McCullough shows that safety has been removed from every part of the vaccine rollout and those government watchdogs whose job it is to ensure that the safety regime is adhered to are too close to the pharmaceutical industry to have maintained that regime.

    If you’ve watched the vid of Dr Reiner Fuillmich taking evidence from Dr David Martin you would know that the vaccine (Moderna?) had been patented before the virus had been identified in the population. There was no acting quickly to find a remedy Nor was there a pandemic, because there were no cases until the PCR Test was commandeered to “find” it, which then ensured that the WHO could make the subsequent announcement.

    One of the great travesties of this pandemic is the deliberate change from a medical standpoint in the counting of asymptomatic rather than symptomatic cases because of the faulty PCR Test; as if the healthy who by and large don’t get sick, can pass on an illness of this nature when they have no symptoms. Or, as McCullough points out, doctors sending people home to self-isolate or into quarantine alone to wait out the illness but offer them no treatments and not even attempt to try any – at least not until they’re on their last legs and in need of hospital care – which demonstrates how complete this mindset of sola vaccine has become. This is perhaps the most sad and disturbing aspect of this 20 odd months, apart from the deliberate ban on people going to funerals and/or seeing their sick family members because of state borders and hospital nazis.

    Every aspect of the management of this pandemic has been replicated everywhere in the West – apart from in Sweden. How can it be that one country with one set of demographics, geographical features, climate and living arrangements etc has been managed in the same way as an entirely different country with the exact opposite characteristics? Why would Bondi Beach and, say, Naples require the same protocols? In fact, the northern Italy experience was completely different to what occurred in Australia – and still is. Yet their pandemic plans were the same in all(?)/most(?) respects: lockdowns, facemasks, social distancing, closed schools, the denial of basic rights to work. Why?

    But what we do know is that across western nations people have been subjected to the most disgraceful assault on their mental stability outside of an existential war. Until, finally, in being returned of their freedoms by the State, they are rising in thankful rejoicing – you’ll know what I mean if you’ve managed to see some of the footage from today in Sydney. But in reality this is another assault to their senses and stability, for always now in the back of their minds will be the worry that the government could at any time introduce another lockdown- nothing now can be planned or relied on in this “New World Order.”

    More and more this entire experience reminds of the mass brainwashing scene in the film The Manchurian Candidate (the original flick not that latter day travesty) when the soldiers think that they’re attending a seminar on flower arranging (iirc) somewhere in middle class USA when actually the chief protagonist of the film, Raymond Shaw, has been brainwashed to murder two of his fellow comrades before the eyes of the other captured American soldiers and in the presence of the Chinese and Russian brainwashers. Like the characters watching Shaw, the people no longer know what is a lie and what is real; all that matters is our state sponsored rather than our actual freedom.

    And for the vaxxed and the unvaxxed, watching the McCullough vid should give no-one any succour. First, because the organisations and bodies that countries have created to manage our society for the benefit of the people have been corrupted by money and power; who can we turn to when it looks like everything has been corrupted to make right what is no longer right?

    Second, and more importantly, we all have friends and family on either side of this divide – and it is a real divide while these restrictions on some but not on others remain in place. While further divides are occurring as mandates to be jabbed are being enforced: lose your job and income and perhaps family and friends, if you don’t succumb. No doubt further relational damage as those who remain healthy may feel guilt ridden as their loved ones suffer because of a necessity to get jabbed. Mandates for a medical treatment in a free(?) society are anathema. On that alone the vaccines have failed.

  142. Rex Anger Avatar
    Rex Anger

    Unfit for office. They’re all in this together.

    Unlikely. This is Viktoristan, after all.

    It’s a factional powerplay, Kabuki’d up for the delectation of restive proles.

    Check out the man’s patron powerbrokers, and see if they are out of favour.

    The hungry and the smart and the vicious are lodging their CVs for the Politburo’s comfy seats…

  143. Sancho Panzer Avatar
    Sancho Panzer

    M Lode at 4:18.

    There are a lot of claims about coming from both sides, some of which are doubtless valid and others…promoted more for resonating with existing convictions than for their epistemological integrity, shall we say.

    Ain’t that the truth?

  144. Bar Beach Swimmer Avatar
    Bar Beach Swimmer

    From Rosie’s link:
    Preliminary findings did not show obvious safety signals among pregnant persons who received mRNA Covid-19 vaccines. However, more longitudinal follow-up, including follow-up of large numbers of women vaccinated earlier in pregnancy, is necessary to inform maternal, pregnancy, and infant outcomes

    I watched the vid that MT put up the other day: Fanosthevoice interviewing a Dr Peter Johnston from Rosebud who’s been a doctor for 50 years, on the vaccines. One of the things I found really interesting was when the discussion turned to Thalidomide. It seems that when the animal studies were done, rats were used and no adverse reactions found.

    Once the abnormalities came to light the university teams had a look at and re-did the experiments on the rats, because the manufacturer reiterated that they’d found nothing untoward in the rat subjects.

    What the researchers discovered was how different the two species dealt with the medication. In the case of the rats, the drug remained in the rats for about 30 minutes whereas for the human subjects it stayed in their system for about 7 hours. Dr Johnston said that the vaccine trials were also undertaken on rats.

    https://rumble.com/vndru5-episode-35-live-with-dr.-peter-johnston-victorian-gp-speaking-out.html

  145. Boambee John Avatar
    Boambee John

    BBS

    First, because the organisations and bodies that countries have created to manage our society for the benefit of the people have been corrupted by money and power; who can we turn to when it looks like everything has been corrupted to make right what is no longer right?

    Indeed. As we look around, who can we trust? All amjor “leadership” groups, politicians, public “servants”, doctors, nurses, academics, media, religious leaders, how many of them have stood up and simply said “This is wrong”?

  146. Timothy Neilson Avatar
    Timothy Neilson

    rosiesays:
    October 11, 2021 at 5:09 pm

    Thanks rosie.
    Interestingly the link contains two October updates, one including what’s basically a mea culpa by the authors that their original way of presenting the data had set the hares and hounds running, and a second giving the results updated from the April preliminary study.
    The update states that the final (or at least much closer to final) data suggests that the spontaneous miscarriages are in line with normal stats, so the concerns arising from that study have been allayed.

  147. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare Avatar
    Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    That certainly wasn’t what social media commenters were saying about the NEJM study

    Show me the data, not what the commenters made of it. The number 847 rings a bell. Someone had toted up the numbers of two columns and come up with what they thought was bingo! a discrepancy.

    But the two columns referred to very different things, contrasting the figures expected in a population for ‘losses’ in the earlier stages of pregnancy contrasted with the ‘losses’ experienced in the study population. The RR in both was about the same. Hence, vaxx no problem.

  148. rosie Avatar
    rosie

    Thalidomide originally came from war time Germany.
    The FDA never approved thalidomide
    It’s an interesting story

  149. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare Avatar
    Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    their original way of presenting the data had set the hares and hounds running

    Yes, as I had picked up. Good to see that the proper result has now been put into a form readable by people who obviously couldn’t read a scientific paper, even a basic one.

  150. Fat Tony Avatar
    Fat Tony

    Interesting – people arguing about the “vaccine”……
    Which leads to the vaccine passport
    Which leads to full digital identity and tracking
    Which leads to the Social Credit Score
    Which leads to the end all personal freedom

    And if the “vaccines” are so good, then why in Viktoria are the pollies, the judiciary & the police exempt?

  151. MatrixTransform Avatar
    MatrixTransform

    ethics of Best Worst Permanent Pandemic

    test experimental drug on pregnant see if baby ok
    withhold all other treatments see if patient ok
    tell people to be scared and command to take drugs…see if people ok
    destroy small biz and private enterprise see if economoney ok.

    turns out nothing ok.
    so, start again with new experiment
    repeat until everything ok.

  152. Fat Tony Avatar
    Fat Tony

    Yes, as I had picked up. Good to see that the proper result has now been put into a form readable by people who obviously couldn’t read a scientific paper, even a basic one.

    Unlike you, the most formidable scientific paper reader evah……

  153. Bruce of Newcastle Avatar
    Bruce of Newcastle

    #F35A tested with B61-12 nuclear bomb

    AC-130H Spectre gets a laser

  154. Tom Avatar
    Tom

    Very brave. On the same day the Murdoch children had a 16-page renewable energy propaganda wraparound in the Australian News Limited tabloids, Chris Kenny on (News-owned) Sky is railing against Morrison’s renewable energy fantasy and just had Alan Moran on to explain the impossibility of reaching net zero by 2050 without destroying the Australian economy.

  155. Muddy Avatar
    Muddy

    The Director-General of Qld Health has kindly informed us that:

    In a study of COVID-19 infected healthcare workers in Israel, 57 per cent acquired the infection from an unvaccinated household contact. You can help reduce this risk by making sure that your household is fully vaccinated.

    When we go to the study he links to, we find that:

    In all 37 case patients for whom data were available regarding the source of infection, the suspected source was an unvaccinated person; in 21 patients (57%), this person was a household member.

    Let’s look at that again: … the suspected source…

    Oh, and if you’ve just eaten, there’s this:

    The new Chief Health Officer announced

    On Tuesday, the Premier formally announced Dr Krispin Hajkowicz as Queensland’s new Chief Health Officer (CHO). Krispin will formally take on the role from 1 November, and in the meantime is getting acquainted with the amazing team of professionals that make up the Department and the Hospital and Health Services COVID response system. We have many new challenges to confront in the next phase of our COVID-19 response. Krispin has both the expertise and leadership credentials to be able to maintain the trust and confidence of the Queensland community as we transition to ‘living with COVID’.

    It is hard for me to put into words the burden of responsibility on our Chief Health Officer, in making life changing decisions every day over the past 21 months. In a declared public health emergency, it is the CHO who has the legal power and accountability for these decisions, aiming to balance the application of restrictions on individual rights, for the broader public benefit. Few jurisdictions around the world have achieved what Queensland has to date, both in terms of safeguarding lives and health, and in maintaining some semblance of social and economic normality for our citizens. Each one of these thousands of decisions comes at a high cost, both for the people affected, and also for the CHO. Every one of these decisions is also subject to intense public scrutiny and commentary by ‘experts’ who provide a daily critique in the daily cauldron of media.

    As we approach the end of October and the life and career transition for both Dr Young and Dr Hajkowicz, I ask that you reflect for moment, on how fortunate we are that we have leaders that will step forward, put their reputations on the line, and make the high stakes decisions every day for the community good. I also ask that you will join with me in giving Krispin and his family our full support as he takes on this role, to lead us through this next phase of the pandemic.

  156. MatrixTransform Avatar
    MatrixTransform

    most formidable scientific paper reader evah

    whenever Lizzie travels with Pandemic Tours she has ample time on her hands.

    between dance class and elevenses, she write notes in the journal margins

  157. Bar Beach Swimmer Avatar
    Bar Beach Swimmer

    The FDA never approved thalidomide

    Rosie, I never said it did. In fact Dr Johnston said that the FDA stopped it from getting into America.

  158. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare Avatar
    Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    What the researchers discovered was how different the two species dealt with the medication.

    Well, JC did ask what species Tim was, so he’s obviously alert to the issue. 😀

    Thalidomide is also very specific indeed to the actual stage of pregnancy at which the foetus is developing. Taking it at different but limited stages of human embryonic development produces different injuries. Later on, no problems. My Big Sis took it during her first pregnancy in 1961 and the child was unaffected, as she took it slightly later than most others did. Human testing always takes place before any drug is ticked off for human use. Animal tests come first, and often on different sorts of species, for contrasts and especially to establish toxicity levels. LD50 – the amount needed to kill off fifty of the more ‘disposable’ animals, is one standard used. Rats aren’t bad indicators of how human physiology responds – I guess because, like us rats, are opportunistic omnivores.

    Thalidomide is now being repurposed for other disease treatments. Anything so biologically active but well tolerated is a dead cert for a revision and another look for utility.

  159. Knuckle Dragger Avatar
    Knuckle Dragger

    I also ask that you will join with me in giving Krispin and his family our full support

    Why would I give this bloke’s family my full support? Are they making the decisions as well?

    How much more unelected can people be?

  160. areff Avatar
    areff

    No idea about the Twiggy dunning scheme. At this stage it just looks like they plan to manufacture electrolytic cells.

    Thanks. So they won’t actually be producing hydrogen itself, rather the gear to do so?

  161. Bar Beach Swimmer Avatar
    Bar Beach Swimmer

    As we approach the end of October and the life and career transition for both Dr Young and Dr Hajkowicz, I ask that you reflect for moment, on how fortunate we are that we have leaders that will step forward, put their reputations on the line, and make the high stakes decisions every day for the community good.

    Muddy, for that one para, (and in agreement with calli), I’d like a thumbs down button.

    And as you point out, suspected – so no evidence; just a big nothing.

  162. rosie Avatar
    rosie

    And I was just pointing towards the why, which is important in the but thalidomide! narrative.
    Thalidomide was a disgraceful episode that wrought significant changes to the approval of new drugs.
    I don’t know how helpful it is in discussing the covid vaccine.

  163. cohenite Avatar
    cohenite

    With scomo committing political suicide by embracing the green, commie revolution, and therefore the liars likely to be voted in by an electorate made stupid by a gangrenous media the question is how can one endeavour to keep the lights on. I have a gas compressor which gives me about 48 hour continuous power but with the filth aiming to ban gas how is that going to be powered after the bastards win the next election. It’ll be a hard swallow putting chunk panels on the roof.

  164. A Suggestion Avatar
    A Suggestion

    I don’t know how helpful it is in discussing the covid vaccine.

    Because, clearly ALL of those finely tuned changes to the drug approval process counted for nought when push came to shove.

  165. rosie Avatar
    rosie

    Trump approved a fast track, not a side track.

  166. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare Avatar
    Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Unlike you, the most formidable scientific paper reader evah……

    Credit where it is due, thank you. I am not bad at it. For a mere female, natch.

    I have a good nose for scientific bullshit and a fairly logical mind.
    Don’t get me started on climate change. 😀

  167. calli Avatar
    calli

    Tom says:
    October 11, 2021 at 5:49 pm

    Playing both sides. It allows them to push an ideology and pretend to be even handed.

  168. MatrixTransform Avatar
    MatrixTransform

    I don’t know how helpful it is in discussing the covid vaccine.

    der

  169. Fat Tony Avatar
    Fat Tony

    With scomo committing political suicide…….

    I doubt it – there will be no more free elections in this country.
    Any elections, due to the state of emergency from the pandemic, will have to be done on-line.
    The recent census was a roll-out for that one.
    And the incumbents will get in with 130% of the vote.

  170. MatrixTransform Avatar
    MatrixTransform

    with the filth aiming to ban gas how is that going to be powered

    go steam-punk and build a wood gasifier

  171. Bruce of Newcastle Avatar
    Bruce of Newcastle

    Speaking of national self-harm Bananababy isn’t covering himself in glory.

    NSW Nationals demand big dollar green investments for regions ahead of PM’s COP26 talks

    Yep he wants ScoMo to bribe the Nats to allow Australia to be turned into Lebanon.
    Sheesh. What did we do to deserve having these wretches as our leaders?

  172. Sancho Panzer Avatar
    Sancho Panzer

    Thalidomide is now being repurposed for other disease treatments. Anything so biologically active but well tolerated is a dead cert for a revision and another look for utility.

    I read somewhere that it showed up excellent results in treating, I think, one of the degenerative diseases (but not 100% sure).
    It was certainly something that mostly afflicted the elderly, so as long as it isn’t prescribed for womem of child-bearing age.

  173. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare Avatar
    Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    It’ll be a hard swallow putting chunk panels on the roof.

    Chunk panels are luxury. Not everyone has a spare roof nor the money to buy them.

    I am looking forward to the worst of times. I have a little solar powered light with a charger battery attached. It holds enough power to light a few hours up and to charge a phone until the sun comes out again. Battery lights, camping gas gear and candles and a hand-held fan – that’s the future we’re looking at with ScoMo. Hot water from a black bag on a stick outdoors, hot days only.

  174. Fat Tony Avatar
    Fat Tony

    I don’t know how helpful it is in discussing the covid vaccine.

    If this isn’t peak stupid, it must be very close.

  175. Bar Beach Swimmer Avatar
    Bar Beach Swimmer

    MatrixTransformsays:
    October 11, 2021 at 5:44 pm

    MT, you said it clearer and better than me.

  176. Muddy Avatar
    Muddy

    DOVER.

    Please check your email inbox/spam folder for a submission from myself.

  177. calli Avatar
    calli

    Thalidomide in treatments (Mayo Clinic).

    Leprosy, amongst other things.

  178. Sancho Panzer Avatar
    Sancho Panzer

    I also ask that you will join with me in giving Krispin and his family our full support …

    … as he searches for the pin which Janette and I so carelessly pulled out of this grenade.

  179. MatrixTransform Avatar
    MatrixTransform

    Hot water from a black bag on a stick outdoors, hot days only

    fmd.
    she’s doing thermodynamics now

  180. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare Avatar
    Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Pandemic Tours

    I love it. I’m pinching that.

  181. rosie Avatar
    rosie

    Another troll from Queensland
    Whatevers.
    Incidentally if the vaccines are pure evil the ultimate responsibility is indeed President Trump’s, he absolutely made it happen, impossible to walk away from that fact.

  182. calli Avatar
    calli

    It was just the first one after a quick Google. Loads of other ones.

    Like the little blue pill of magical prowess and the other drug of namelessness, many other uses.

  183. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare Avatar
    Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    she’s doing thermodynamics now

    It’s elementary, my dear Matrix, to someone who was schooled with ye olde Coolgardie.

  184. calli Avatar
    calli

    Hot water from a black bag

    Who’s having their pool solar heated? The rigid panels are better than the liquorice – the cockies can’t get a beak-hold.

  185. MatrixTransform Avatar
    MatrixTransform

    you said it clearer

    Definitely reads better if you use a Cyrillic accent

    (apologies to those whose native accent is Cyrillic)

  186. MatrixTransform Avatar
    MatrixTransform

    I love it. I’m pinching that.

    I actually meant to write Pandemic Cruises … pressed the submit button too fast

  187. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare Avatar
    Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    between dance class and elevenses, she write notes in the journal margins

    Gosh. Sprung again. That’s exactly what I do.

    I am a big noter. lol.

  188. Bar Beach Swimmer Avatar
    Bar Beach Swimmer

    Incidentally if the vaccines are pure evil the ultimate responsibility is indeed President Trump’s, he absolutely made it happen, impossible to walk away from that fact.

    Rosie, on this he was done like a dinner; they already had everything in place, and regardless of Trump.

  189. John of Mel Avatar
    John of Mel

    Definitely reads better if you use a Cyrillic accent

    (apologies to those whose native accent is Cyrillic)

    No need to apologise Matrix. I read it with that precise accent and it sounded good.

  190. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare Avatar
    Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    It just struck me that some of you young innocents might not even know this:

    The Coolgardie safe is a low-tech food storage unit for cooling and prolonging the life of whatever edibles are kept in it. It applies the basic principle of heat transfer which occurs during evaporation of water.

    That puts me in the pre-ice ages. 🙂

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