Tony Lin, please explain to me WTF is going on, vax rates v cases:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSlW8l7UvuI

Lizzie / JC,

I’m happy that you guys got to make your own choices, that what this should be about.

Me? I don’t get to make my own choice without a mass of consequence being attached to it.

Alan Jones was at his very best tonight. He went in hard and fast on ScoMo’s turncoat behaviour regarding net zero fifty. I sniff something in the air re the submarine agreement and that sudden shift. Morrison must have assured Boris and Biden that he could ‘bring Australia round’ to the climate cult. The Business Council of Australia, oligarchs all, are in on some sort of deal too.

It is up to We The People to disabuse Morrison about his capacity to change Australia’s viewpoint expressed in the past three elections that we live off coal, oil and gas and do not want to change our golden goose (which has lifted the third world out of poverty btw) for an chimeric piece of frozen tinsel from the US and the shivering European nations. Nor do we want to fill our land with windbeams and sunmills that will not deliver the base-load electricity that we need to build our nation fit to suit our location vis-a-vis China.

Rex

Warned you were.
https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-burned-sausage-11292740.html?pv=1&stamp=2&imageid=24364390-871E-4480-AAA8-E9BBC51EB46F&p=13453&n=0&orientation=0&pn=1&searchtype=0&IsFromSearch=1&srch=foo%3dbar%26st%3d0%26pn%3d1%26ps%3d100%26sortby%3d2%26resultview%3dsortbyPopular%26npgs%3d0%26qt%3dburned%2520sausage%26qt_raw%3dburned%2520sausage%26lic%3d3%26mr%3d0%26pr%3d0%26ot%3d0%26creative%3d%26ag%3d0%26hc%3d0%26pc%3d%26blackwhite%3d%26cutout%3d%26tbar%3d1%26et%3d0x000000000000000000000%26vp%3d0%26loc%3d0%26imgt%3d0%26dtfr%3d%26dtto%3d%26size%3d0xFF%26archive%3d1%26groupid%3d%26pseudoid%3d%26a%3d%26cdid%3d%26cdsrt%3d%26name%3d%26qn%3d%26apalib%3d%26apalic%3d%26lightbox%3d%26gname%3d%26gtype%3d%26xstx%3d0%26simid%3d%26saveQry%3d%26editorial%3d1%26nu%3d%26t%3d%26edoptin%3d%26customgeoip%3d%26cap%3d1%26cbstore%3d1%26vd%3d0%26lb%3d%26fi%3d2%26edrf%3d%26ispremium%3d1%26flip%3d0%26pl%3d

My reply, “it’s the 11th Of October, so, no.”

Look of confusion and concern, young lady thinks the better of it and returns to whatever nearby shop she emerged from. So I looked up and down the street, everybody I could see was wearing a damn mask.

People are cowed, maybe. Full of ‘just in case somebody says something’. They’re probably still blinking, getting used to sunlight again.

Nor do we want to fill our land with windbeams and sunmills that will not deliver the base-load electricity

No need to worry about that – the CCP won’t be building any of that garbage here – only coal-fired or nuclear power stations for their new industrial/farm/mining operations.

A medical stall might work. A depressive episode coming on? Or suspected deep vein thrombosis that must be checked out first and vascular specialist appointment is a month away. High blood pressure that needs to be controlled first (smoke a pak of ciggies in a telephone booth used to be one way to convince a doc you’re not in good nick). Insomnia is always a goodie too – you are having it all checked out with lots of sleep tests and you can’t risk the vaxx affecting things. Or get some Robin Gordon Grevellia from a nursery and rub it on your face; you will likely prove to be highly allergic to it, then say you have to get tests to find out what you are allergic to before a vaxx can be taken.

Or tell them the truth. That they are overbearing tyrannical government yes-men who don’t deserve any decent employees – and leave. You might suggest to them that they could conveniently forget to ask for your vaxx status; they may actually do it if they thought you were really going.

And do people still think the NSW will fully open up on the 1st December???

They have been lying to us since early 2020 – promise something to keep the people hopeful then fuck ém over.

Started with 2 weeks to flatten the curve……

A while back, Scummo said that Australia would be a very different place by Christmas.
Anyone actually know what he meant by that?

Everything bad that has happened to Australia since March last year can be attributed to Scummo – what he hasn’t done directly himself, he has allowed others to do.

It’s a lesson leaning experience as maid service isn’t an essential service. ?

Just about everyone I know, including two of my kids, still have cleaners in regularly, and have done some throughout lockdown. Linen service still delivers for her nextdoor too.

Our cleaners haven’t been in for a while because no point during the renovation period, we have just been keeping things moderately ok ourselves, ‘tho Hairy says to call them in before we have visitors.
We’ve each been looking after our own bathrooms. Mine is very acceptable, and his .. is mostly not.

Bathrooms remind me. This, upthread from Matrix:

but bathing in bullshit is a whole new level.

Try a little bit of anger management, Matey. No need to be so unpleasant.

I just want to say that I really sympathise with anyone who is being forced to get jabbed or get sacked. It’s a bastard of a situation that no one in a true democracy should be faced with.

Couldn’t agree more, Slim Cognito. I need to say it as well as uptick on your excellent comment.

Just putting that out there to see how many upticks it gets so yiz can get a general gauge on how your funky patter is going down.

Anything under 30 upticks doesn’t count, Arky.

It’s just ambient noise. 🙂

Rex Anger says:
October 11, 2021 at 11:35 pm

Rex – those Jolly Green Giant pics remind me of the ones at the train station across the road when I lived in Dalby (Qld) in the second half of the 1950s.
Do you know if QR had them at that time?

enough with the denominator high-school stuff.

That’s about all this high-school commentary on a reasonable paper deserved.

I’m off to sleep like a log not interpret them for people who make the sort of errors we’ve seen in Tim’s magic figures.

MT – this country is now fucked.
Our so-called “leaders” have sold us out.

If it were only our government and police to fight, then we’d win.

What shits me is that Scummo & his fellow traitors are lining up this country for the UN “Peace-Keeping” force (CCP) to “legally” come in and take control.

Howard set the scene by disarming the country.
I wonder what pretense they will use to confiscate all the legal guns?

Thanks Rex – that video on C17s brought back some memories.
Around 1960, we went on family holiday from Dalby to Gladstone – don’t remember the holiday, but remember the train trip.

Dalby to Roma Street Station was a long trip – going down the Range was always slow – and tunnels…
Roma Street to Gladstone was via sleeper. The rest of that day, then all night and then well into the next day.

mh says:
October 11, 2021 at 10:36 pm

Rumble — Monica Smit interviews Craig to announce the joining of RDA party with the United Australia Party.
Monica asks some general questions about how UAP are doing so far and what they stand for.

https://rumble.com/vnl33d-rda-is-joining-craig-kelly-and-united-australia-party.html

John Spooner.

Warren Brown.

David Rowe.

Andy Davey.

Bob Gorrell.

Matt Margolis.

Mask wearing in the Sydney CBD was common yesterday.
Last night I walked past one pub that was open, out of the 6 I walk past to get to where I park (5 min walk), geez there are a lot of pubs in Sydney.
It looked like a staged event.
Everyone was seated.
Seemed very subdued.

Sydney was far from perfect.
But there were nice little pockets where one could live an exceptional life.
I can’t see them coming back.
This must be what intelligent people in Cuba felt like after the revolution.

Just read the Stacey Brewster column in the Oz.
Pretty confronting stuff.
Going to be some high profile people associated with swimming from the Seoul olympics vintage getting rubbed out.
Unlike the Christian Porter allegations where the person only recalled the alleged assault 20+ years later & started writing stuff down then, Brewster has extensive diaries from the time, a photo & envelope one of the perpetrators sent to her after the fact.
Also, the pig who sent the photo to her after the assault also sent her a disgusting fb message in 2016 referring the sexual assault.

Fat Tony:

Roma Street to Gladstone was via sleeper. The rest of that day, then all night and then well into the next day.

You know, I’d use a sleeper to get from Barky to Brisbane, but have you seen the bloody prices?

The shifting base line:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQm5QNtcSmw

But listen, there are docs or doc offices that will sign you off as having been jabbed. My Greek Cafe dude reckons it costs a thousand bucks.

I have been trying to find one of these without any luck.

Tony Lin, update on Israel’s COVID train wreck:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9_4Kildds4

The late Sam Cohen, the father of the neutron bomb, told journalists that Taiwan had a stockpile of such weapons and that he had personally briefed the Taiwan military staff on their use.

Would be funny to see the school yard bully grab the little kid by the ear, only to receive an upper cut that breaks their jaw and removes most of their teeth.

Hope its true rickw.

I’m somewhat disappointed it didn’t happen a year ago Winston. Its not as if the majority don’t deserve it.

And on China that nice Mr Xi must think the heavens are against him.

China Coal Futures Hit Record High As Mines Flood; Worsening Power Shortages Hit Rust Belt (11 Oct)

China’s top coal-producing region has been devastated by torrential rains and flooding this past week. About 9% of the coal mines in Shanxi province, an area responsible for producing 30% of China’s supply, have closed operations. The direct effect of this has been a spike in coal futures.

Heavy rainfall flooded Shanxi over the weekend. More than 120,000 people have been evacuated, and 60 of the 682 coal mines in the province have been closed. Industrial yards and manufacturing complexes have also been shuttered due to flooding.

The province is usually a dry area but record-breaking rain last week complicated things for the mining industry. This also comes at a time when Beijing has called on mining companies to boost output amid a nationwide power crunch.

As a result, Coal futures on the Zhengzhou Commodity Exchange jumped 12% to $218.76 per ton, a new record high, on Monday.

If the electricity providers don’t raise their prices they’ll go bankrupt quicker than a CCP-linked property developer. And if they do raise their prices the retail rate will need to be about US$250/MW just to break even. Ouch!

The domination by lawyers, a fucking hangover from the Norman conquest, is a huge problem. Can never understand why Americans rebelled against the crown but still allowed the legal ‘profession’ to noble the country.

Loading a grain truck bound for Poowong.
Nice morning.

More on the Chinese coal mess from Daniel Greenfield:

Red China Tried To Go Green, Now It’s Going Dark (11 Oct)

I wonder if the Bilderberg and Davos elites infesting the halls of Glasgow later this month will discuss this?

This applies to Australia but could equally apply to Britain, the US, Canada or Germany or numerous other first world countries. Fifty years of boiling the frog then people finally realize what’s going on then whack.

By Easter time next year there will be a few cases of something they can label as covid Epsilon or whatever and away we go, closed churches first and then everything else.

Yep. Here’s a long article today with lots and lots of data:

Counterintuitive: More Vaccinations Leads To More Infections, Hospitalizations, Deaths (11 Oct)

Data from 68 countries show that there appears to be “no discernable relationship between percentage of population fully vaccinated and new COVID-19 cases in the last 7 days” (Subramanian and Kumar, 2021). For example, countries with 75% vaccinated populations have higher infection rates than those with 10% vaccinated.
…
Recently a COVID outbreak occurred in an Israeli hospital that involved 248 N-95 mask-wearing people; 238 (96.2%) of them were fully vaccinated.

Of the 42 COVID infections, 38 were in the fully vaccinated. One was partially vaccinated. The 3 unvaccinated cases were “mild” or asymptomatic. All 8 of the severely ill and all 5 of the deaths occurred in the fully vaccinated.

When the inevitable happens, and Covid goes through the vaxed here in Australia like wildfire, the pollies will panic all over again. It’ll go through the unvaxed too, of course, but there’s going to be a lot of anger and disillusionment amongst the plebs who were told vaccination would protect them.

You’re right, Bruce. And I can see the inevitable anger whipped up against the unvaxxed rather than where it belongs – our rotten politicians and the media.

Like a rescue dog

That’s the truest description.
Even if they don’t want to admit it.

And I can see the inevitable anger whipped up against the unvaxxed

Calli – Yep to that too.

Most Israelis back punitive measures against the unvaccinated (11 Oct)

You’d think Israelis today might have a little empathy towards persecuted people, but no. History is hard.

bern,

I have a rescue dog, which made me think of the comparison. He’s a five year old Darwin Special, which means he’s a combo of bull Arab (common up here with the piggers), with bits of longer-legged greyhound and other assorted categories of boof. Great dog. Intelligent yet dopey. When sitting, his brick shaped head is almost up to your hip.

I suspect he didn’t have the best previous life. He’s much better than he was, but still gets flinchy and skittish at certain sounds. These include, but are no limited to:
Operating cigarette lighters;
Snapping open plastic shopping bags;
Rain (but not thunder, lightning or firecrackers, strangely);
Lizards running through dry leaves;
Seeds falling from plants; and
The back fridge closing.

Or, I suppose, he could be just a great big homo dog.

The clean (unvaccinated) will be labelled as reservoirs (the term ‘monkey’ will make a comeback), and there will be an app for people to hunt us (by identifying our phones) like those weirdo Pokemon adults from a few years ago.

Thanks Knuckles, I’m super, thanks for asking!

BBS – I gave a link to the NSW covid regulations page in my original comment. It is the one I carefully read. There is no fine for going to anywhere on the list, which is basically where we were all allowed to be last week. The Commissioner lied. At very best he lied by omission, by not saying what he meant by “going out”. I think that was intentional for the obvious reasons.

This is real in China right now.

https://www.technologyreview.com/2021/10/11/1036582/darren-byler-xinjiang-china-uyghur-surveillance/?truid=511cda4596687ad1e8c0a33a5309beb3&utm_source=the_download&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=the_download.unpaid.engagement&utm_term=Active%20Qualified&utm_content=10-11-2021&mc_cid=542e668e19&mc_eid=6cb9ef82da

From the MIT article.

Sometime in mid-2019, a police contractor in the Chinese city of Kuitun tapped a young college student from the University of Washington on the shoulder as she walked through a crowded market intersection. The student, Vera Zhou, didn’t notice the tapping at first because she was listening to music through her earbuds as she weaved through the crowd. When she turned around and saw the black uniform, the blood drained from her face. Speaking in Chinese, Vera’s native language, the police officer motioned her into a nearby People’s Convenience Police Station—one of more than 7,700 such surveillance hubs that now dot the region.

On a monitor in the boxy gray building, she saw her face surrounded by a yellow square. On other screens she saw pedestrians walking through the market, their faces surrounded by green squares. Beside the high-definition video still of her face, her personal data appeared in a black text box. It said that she was Hui, a member of a Chinese Muslim group that makes up around 1 million of the population of 15 million Muslims in Northwest China. The alarm had gone off because she had walked beyond the parameters of the policing grid of her neighborhood confinement. As a former detainee in a re-education camp, she was not officially permitted to travel to other areas of town without explicit permission from both her neighborhood watch unit and the Public Security Bureau. The yellow square around her face on the screen indicated that she had once again been deemed a “pre-criminal” by the digital enclosure system that held Muslims in place. Vera said at that moment she felt as though she could hardly breathe.

After 3 months with a rescue dog you know if they’re able to the social or unfortunately they are too far gone.
It’s a sick human who treats a dog badly.

I can sense an opportunity for app designers here: Walk around your neighbourhood, your phone pings other phones within a certain distance & records if the target phone is a green-tick ‘winner’ or otherwise. Compete with others to identify the most number of reservoir monkeys in the least amount of time/area.
Too bad I can only just figure out how to turn my phone on & off again.

Dot – I counted another 7 new climate propaganda articles on the Daily Telegraph main page this morning, after eight yesterday. They’re fully on the dark side now, except Blair and some of the opinion writers. I can’t see Blair staying there long, if he gets a reasonable offer from somewhere else.

From Bern’s MIT article:

I realized then that it really wasn’t safe to have friends. I just started to stay at home all the time.

Sound familiar? Isolation is forced at first. Then the programming kicks in and it becomes the landscape of life.

With reference to Bruce’s comments up thread.
Roll forward to autumn/winter 2022 in Australia.
International travel is back on.

After what we’ve witnessed during the past 18 months, will politicians & the health nazis wind back testing, reporting of COVID & that entire industry that big tech, big pharma, the political class & the legacy media have all benefited from?
They will have to admit they all were wrong.
And that they over reacted for two whole years.
Also keep in mind that a Labor Green federal government will most likely be in place.

Boambee Johnsays:
October 12, 2021 at 8:02 am

Indolent

I repeat, where are the court cases? What’s happened to the Privacy Act, and the discrimination laws?

And what has happened to our previously ubiquitous and loquacious “human rites” groups? Gone to silence every one, when will we ever learn that they are all sock puppets of the fascist left?

Again I have to remind people about those who gave early warning but were shouted down as ‘conspiracy nuts’.

The ‘Human Rights’ & other such groups were yet more “proper channels” designed to drown those seeking just redress for wrongs.

Those who by some miracles managed to stay afloat and call out, “Don’t Trust The Bastards! It’s a Con!”, only got shoved back under again, by those who such Groups did do some, personally benefitting, good for; the Bait clients.

Of course no one wants to face the fact they’ve been used to to sell dangerous false narratives to the public, let alone admit it, so even now while everyone’s scratching their heads, asking how we got to this totalitarian hell on earth, most still go to their default of abusing the early warner’s rather than not … let alone dare make apologies as public as their libels.

Mine wife is struggling with a rescue dog at the moment- ie, how to kill it without herself being killed by it first.
It’s a kelpie, and the local rescue group* has re-homed it with a man in a wheelchair. Quadriplegic, scoots around with a black-golfball-on-the-chin style controller, NDIS carer is with himtwo times five hours a day, outskirts rural small property. The dog is sketchy savage, vet wife knows the signs, Bright and quick enough to have a finger off, face shy too, which means cheek and eye injuries waiting probably. She’s put a three-drug cocktail together… didn’t take the edge off. They need a quick way forward, so next is a sub-lethal barbituate in food to get a muzzle on, and jab the green dream from there. Paperwork will be fudged.
We’ve seen brilliant rescue dogs, and basket cases. Unfortunately the “rescue” concept is binding the hands of commonsense decision making.
* I say “the” rescue group, because the leaders of it are nasty toxic karens themselves and have actively driven all other parties off the territory.

Hey Knuckles saw an ad for Lezball cricket. Stars, coof coof. Saw 1 ball bowled by Indian plodder on the opinion (news), a twelve year old schoolboy would have dispatched over a distant boundary. Thinking about getting a trophy made for them to celebrate beating a regional 14 yo team. They deserve to be mocked.

For the commenters who have touched upon our greatest friends, DOGGOS!, I give you an example of a dog who has obviously been abused during training. I hope the poor fella was rescued after this demonstration and the owner was prosecuted.

Lizzie,
Self-beclownment isn’t just being wrong. It’s step process
1. Assumption of superiority
2. Doubling down on stupid
3. The faceplant into the mire.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Bearesays:
October 11, 2021 at 4:59 pm
Remember that NEJM survey which showed a “preliminary” result of 115 lost kids out of 147 pregnancies where the mother got the jab in the first or second trimester?

…..I do remember someone putting up here a report about miscarriages that was absolutely a misreading of the data, where the contrasting population demographic data concerning miscarriages was being misinterpreted as data from the study population. Perhaps that is where these weird figures are coming from? It was such an elementary error I was astounded, for it showed the level of scientific incapability some of the anti-vaxxer population had. Not all of them, of course, but when such clear misinformation is peddled, it helps no-one sensible if it isn’t called out.

Step 1, tick.
Step 2, I won’t bother copying your repetitions but they’re all there.

This is simply false. The critique was always only, repeat only, about the authors’ claim that the RR of spontaneous miscarriage in the first 20 weeks as a result of the vaxx was 115/847 [827 actually – sorry for the error] . It was pointed out that the 827 included 700 who weren’t vaxxed till the third trimester, so were never at risk of spontaneous miscarriage in the first 20 weeks from the vaxx.
Now the authors themselves have admitted that they wrongly used 827 as the denominator. They admitted that the real critique, that 827-700=127, was totally correct.

Step 3, mission accomplished.

Now for the self-beclownment bonus points….

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Bearesays:
October 11, 2021 at 10:54 pm
….
Now you and your seven-strong anti-vaxx cheer squad are being ridiculous. I admit nothing of the sort. The idiot commentators in the particular piece you linked to some time ago (ooh lookit the way their figures don’t add up, they were saying) tried to assess the vaxx population by reference to the figures for the demographic population. In my book that is ‘toting up the two columns’, trying to make the one relate to the other as part of the study population, which of course it is not. What they did is totally confuse the study population (the denominator) with the contrast population (the other column) and then tried to fit the data for the former into the results for the latter. Hence it gave the figure that at 2.58pm today you were so happy to tout – that 115 miscarriages occured among the 147 women you believed were vaxxed in their first or second trimester. Patently ridiculous.

This is, of course, totally false. No-one ever confused the study population with the demographic population.
Seriously, you’re not even a competent bullshitter. How can 115 out of 127 come from figures which included the demographic population? Answer – it can’t. You completely misunderstood the critics but jumped on the supposed cognoscenti bandwagon and are now frantically making excuses instead of admitting that you were hopelessly wrong.

Just was this..

Winston Smith says:
October 11, 2021 at 8:00 pm

Can you give us the time he did this? Or a written link?
I’m over speakers who talk for an hour when ten minutes would be OK. It’s the reason I don’t bother with the Lotus Eaters as well – there are only so many hours in the day.

The actual statement was at 34’07”-ish, then the graphs of the incidence of the Delta strain, the preceding few minutes also informative..