Open Thread-Mon 18 Oct 2021
2,892 responses to “Open Thread-Mon 18 Oct 2021”
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I’ve been listening to a great interview on Discernable the last hour with Prof Nickolai Petrovsky, Prof of Medicine at Flinders. He’s behind the development of COVAX-19, a traditional protein-based COVID vaccine that is being rolled out in Iran as we speak. Likely no chance we’ll see it here because they compete with CSL and the latter’s connection to the Dept of Health is long-standing. He had a lot to say about adverse events and their systematic downplaying, vaccine mandates, among other things. What he said about viral vector vaccines was interesting because it explains why production of AZ will cease in November. He said that the body becomes immune to the viral vector and this makes viral vector boosters useless.
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JC:
I tried to take the bet, which you subsequently turned into a bet for dollar. What exactly am I lying about, you venom filled imbecile? I took a bet you ostentatiously posted a few days ago.
Your reply:
Yes please. I’d like to take up the bet. I would like to bet that the Western economy is not going to halve and that the inflation rate which is currently running at about 4.5% will not double to 9%.
Let’s bet a decent amount here and of course we escrow. The bet will commence from today.I put in a clarification:
The bet – One clarification and one non negotiable demand:
1. “Anyone care to bet on the growth * in the Western World economy halving in the next 6 months and the inflation rate doubling?
Measured by G7 & inclusion of Australia, India and South Korea.
*Insert growth rate as a clarification, which is inferred if not explicitly stated.
2. You stop calling me childish names -this is serious business.
3. The bet is for the usual – $1. (Thanks Trading Places.)
Tell you what – I’ll even remove the “stop calling me childish names” because you’re obviously incapable of reaching an adult level of interaction.
Nowhere did you put an amount of money on the wager.
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I’ve been listening to a great interview on Discernable the last hour with Prof Nickolai Petrovsky, Prof of Medicine at Flinders.
Dover, I caught the end of it, why is there this ongoing obsession that you need to “do” something about pandemics? This fucking thing has killed less than the 2017 flu and yet how many has the “doing” killed?
When these motherfuckers can produce a vaccine that performs as advertised then I will listen, for the moment they’re no better than fucking snake oil salesman.
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Turtle Head you were quite okay with those making racist slurs against me . In fact you joined them in pile on attempts, you clown. When the posse was destroyed you then threatened Sinclair with legal action because it was being mean to you , you ridiculous clown.
You made an assertion about the economies, offered a bet, which I took up and you came back wanting to bet a dollar. You subsequently raised that to 2 dollars. In other words you’re a joke.. a buffoon.
For wanting to make bet, you’re calling me lying piece of shit.
You shouldn’t just disgust me, but everyone else here who’s halfway normal.
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In these very troubled times, peoples, we need some loud and unrepentant Rock ‘n’ Roll, I tells ya! 🙂
“Your freedom don’t come cheap
I’m bartering hard with no room to give
Living my life as if my head ain’t a complete sieve“ -
Okay, but why wouldn’t that principle also apply to flu boosters? These days they recommend booster shots for the flu a few months after.
I think “booster” is the wrong word in some respects, because the flu vax each year is an amalgam of the 3, 4 or 5 most likely candidates, and it differs each year.
I don’t know how long it’s protective qualities last. Maybe months, maybe a year.
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Bruce of Newcastle says: Zeroes were a match for just about anything until the Mustang.
Hmm….dunno about that Bruce.
I’d rather be flying in a Hurricane or a P-40 Kittyhawk in the Pacific against the Zero.
Either would get you home when damaged as opposed to the Zero which could be pretty frail. Also no armour or self-sealing tanks.
In a dogfight the Zero would win. The trick was not to get into such a fight. Get up high; swoop on the bombers; zoom and have another go, and then bugger off before the Zeroes could catch you.
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err, people, it’s a Friday night – cerebral concepts do not need to be discoursed about. However, these do:
– Rock ‘n’ Roll
– Hyperfemmes
– The need for a long overdue administration of good ol’ HOP Time™ 🙂 -
JCsays:
October 22, 2021 at 9:58 pm
Sanchez..
I was advised of a flu booster shot in June after having the first shot around April.
Was it a booster?
That is, a repeat of the original dose?
Or was it a different vax?
When all this stuff started, I looked up my vax record on Medicare.
It’s a different one each year, aimed at the flu strains they think might be prevalent.
Maybe they got word that they backed the wrong horse in April and put together a new shot in June.
Dunno.
My doc is normally hot to trot on the flu vax, but he hasn’t mentioned a second one.
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When I’m not extra loudlee shouting at peoples, it’s time for some poor ol’ Kanye … 🙂
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JCsays:
October 22, 2021 at 10:12 pm
Sanchez
I don’t know. They call it a booster and the doc once told me it was needed because the first shot loses potency pretty quickly.I will ask my doc next appointment.
I am keen to get as many vaccines into me as I can.
Even the one they give teenage girls to prevent ovarian cancer.
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What if you test positive for COVID in Australia? What to do? Let’s call the government help line! They’ll know!
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Remember Biden at one of the debates?
Shoot ’em in the leg.That’s the same Brandon that declared all you had to do to defend your home was “buy a shotgun.”
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Dotsays:
October 22, 2021 at 10:16 pm
I was advised of a flu booster shot in June after having the first shot around April.
Either your doctor is an utter genius or a complete idiot.
I reckon the doc has accidentally given him the wrong one in April (anthrax, diptheria, rabies, thrip, whatever) then given him the flu vax in June and called it a “booster”.
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Hey, young peoples – if you want to know everything about collectivism and the many, many evils it has visited on humanitee (and will continue to do so), then you only need to read Animal Farm and 1984.
Then pray that you don’t have to exist through those monstrous scenarios.
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JC:
Turtle Head you were quite okay with those making racist slurs against me . In fact you joined them in pile on attempts, you clown. When the posse was destroyed you then threatened Sinclair with legal action because it was being mean to you , you ridiculous clown.
Is this about the bit where one of the girls called you the “Italian Stallion” and you strutted around here for a week like a rooster with it’s first erection crowing “Check this out girlies?”
That wasn’t racist – it was speciest.
I think it was the poor girl who was abused by her dad and was a psychological mess. Ellie?I wasn’t the only one who noticed that.
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Prof Petrovesky also said that the efficacy/safety numbers they gave from the clinical trials were inflated and that the number of participants used are simply unable to diagnose adverse events because not enough people are involved. If you have X occurring 1 in 30,000 and you enrol only 20,000 you aren’t going to capture that adverse event. Re efficacy, the difference between the active and placebo is tiny too, and you can’t say anything re hospitalization and death, merely infection.
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if Trump had said, “Ivermectin is shit. I am going to ban it
Counterfactuals Squire, are wonderful, except that they will never exist.
Ivermectin has been demonised purely because Fattee Trump advocated it.
We are no better than the Aztecs, sacrificing virgins into a volcano.
No he didn’t. As far as I’m aware, he never even mentioned it. It was HCQ which he advocated as, by the way, Fauci did way back in 2005 but, of course, that’s been memory holed.
However, as regards both HCQ and Ivermectin they had to be discredited by any and every means (including fake studies) to enable the experimental drugs they were pushing to get emergency approval. To get the money rolling and the worldwide population control reset started. Apart from anything else, how could they possibly have ginned up the necessary fear level if there were cheap and effective therapeutics available – which there were and still are. I think it was in 2019 – pre-Covid – that the Canadian couple who owned the largest HCQ manufacturing company were murder/suicided. What a coincidence. Nothing whatever to do with Trump, they simply used his comment to their ends and, of course, to abuse him as always.
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body becomes immune to the viral vector and this makes viral vector boosters useless.
interesting this has been known for quite a while
Progress and Prospects: Immune Responses to Viral Vectors. Mar 2010
Viral vectors are potent gene delivery platforms for treatment of genetic and acquired diseases. However, just as viruses have evolved to infect cells efficiently, the immune system has evolved to fight off what it perceives as invading pathogens. Therefore, innate immunity and antigen-specific adaptive immune responses against vector-derived antigens reduce the efficacy and stability of in vivo gene transfer. -
Look at this confrontation between Vic Stasi and business owner and his patrons.
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“One hates the French as you would hate the devil!”
The French.
Very wrong people. Except on the odd (and very rare) occasion, when they aren’t 😕
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British nuclear sub’s visit may be Astute ad
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Ben Packham
Foreign Affairs and Defence Correspondent
An hour ago October 22, 2021
No CommentsBritain will press its case to build Australia’s promised nuclear-powered submarines during an upcoming visit by a British nuclear boat to Perth.
The Astute-class submarine has been sailing in a task group with British aircraft carrier HMS Queen Elizabeth on its maiden voyage through the Indo-Pacific.
Defence sources in Canberra and Western Australia have confirmed the fast attack boat is scheduled to visit Perth naval base HMAS Stirling – the home of Australia’s Collins-class submarines – in coming weeks.
The British will use the visit to showcase the Astute’s capabilities to the Royal Australian Navy, with Australian sailors and officers expected to go to sea on the UK nuclear boat.
The submarine could also engage in exercises with an Australian Collins-class submarine, after taking on a Japanese Soryu-class sub in underwater drills last month.
HMS Artful, the third of the Astute-class, was initially sailing with the carrier strike group, but another submarine, either HMS Astute or HMS Ambush, was more recently spotted with the group.
The scheduled visit comes just weeks after British Defence Secretary Ben Wallace said he believed the UK would build Australia’s nuclear-powered subs. “We are in a strong position to help the Australians achieve that capability so I am very confident that British engineering, British skills, Australian nous, will deliver a very good submarine,” Mr Wallace said this month.
British Prime Minister Boris Johnson has also suggested Australia’s new submarines would be British-made, and AUKUS would create “hundreds” of highly skilled jobs across the UK and reinforce Britain’s place “at the leading edge of science and technology”.
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Good news for me.
Oil Prices Could Explode As U.S.’ Largest Storage Hub Nears Empty
JC will love the byline of the author.
ZEROHEDGE
The leading economics blog online covering financial issues, geopolitics and trading.
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When they aren’t referring to English Roses as “Snobbish badlee dressed women who look like horses”.
Yet they wonder why most people on this planet regard them as arrogant insufferable pigs.
Sacre bleu, froggees, let’s have a contretemps … 🙂
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Sol Levy Tobacconist was also on that strip, the shop had traded for over 100 years. Closed in 2014.
Sydney Tech in 1963 where I did the Day Matric was just around the corner in Harris Street. I used to often go to the small tech library to study and then walk home to my basement room in a seedy part of town. Before setting off I would call into the Orion Cafe (we called it the Onion) next to the pub on the corner and have my evening meal of their sausages, tomato, mashed potato, peas and two slices of bread and butter with a cup of tea – around two or three shillings. I liked the area. Used to work copywriting in an advertising agency in lower Sussex Street before that so was also familiar with Dixon Street but it was in another life to tech. I found the Malaya Restaurant early on, but my best memories are of going there with the thesis year honours class at SU for my u/grad degree in 1967.
In the days at tech in 1963, sometimes I’d pick up a Chinese meal from a hole-in-the-wall shop down at Circula Quay close by to where I lived and eat it when I got in – always the same, chicken, rice and tomato sauce with onions – always delicious. I made some good friends at the tech, but at around four or five years younger than me they all lived at home, so my weeknight evenings were often very lonely; I’d moved away from the advertising crowd by then. Weekends though, the Day Matric had parties and good times, not often, but fun. They put on a rip-roaring twenty-first birthday for me. Their card said ‘we were always told to respect our elders’. I hope you realise, I told them, that until I met youse lot I put my age up two years so anyone knowing me before would think I was now 23. They were mainly wayward North Shore and Eastern Suburbs kids from private schools having another go at the Leaving Certificate. More big homes and another world, just like the advertising crowd, but I had no pretending to do with them about being educated and sophisticated. They were all agape at my ‘independent living’ and impressed with some original artworks in my room which some previous friends had loaned to me.
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Sol Levy Tobacconist was also on that strip, the shop had traded for over 100 years. Closed in 2014.
Not to mention the Crystal Palace Hotel, essentially a Malaya pre drinks. There were also a couple of gun shops if I recall rightly.
Mick Smith’s Gun Shop.
Historian Richard Raxworthy, noted for his skilled interviews with tradespeople, & author of (amongst other things) a book on John Bradfield* recorded this 50 minutes of interview with him.For those who read faster than they listen, transcript of the interview is in .pdf form, 22 pages.
For those who have an interest in:
Gunshops, guns & politics of the gun trade.
History of Sydney/Australia (post war)
Charming Australiana & Australians in general.I thoroughly recommend listening to this interview.
*The John Bradfield, of Sydney Harbour Bridge, Brisbane Storey Bridge, proponent of Bradfield scheme, & etc
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Historian Richard Raxworthy is a subject almost as interesting as Mick Smith:
Richard Raxworthy was born in England on 25 April 1932. He was educated at a boarding school called Loughborough College School in Leicestershire. He worked in his father’s factory after school but after his father died when Richard was 19, the factory had to be closed.
He joined the Navy and later moved to Australia when he was 35. He got married and had one son. His career as a social historian began in the 1980s.
He was propelled on his late career as a social historian (specialising in oral history) by completing a BA in Communications at the University of Technology, Sydney. His selected subjects of social history, writing for television and radio and biography, obviously were great training for what was to come.
To the world at large, Mr Raxworthy is mostly known as an oral historian of workers on the Sydney Harbour Bridge. The State Library of NSW has digitised his recordings with workers who constructed the Sydney Harbour Bridge and are greatly celebrated. His interest in the bridge and its construction developed after realising that 1982 was the 50th anniversary of its opening.
He set off upon a mission of interviewing as many people as possible who were still alive and who worked on the building of Sydney Harbour Bridge and the rest (excuse the pun) is history.
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Dot:
Oil Prices Could Explode As U.S.’ Largest Storage Hub Nears Empty
I mentioned several days ago that the supply issues affecting the West may be a deliberate ploy to force the US and Europe to continue to draw down their oil stocks to cripple the US economy.
So two questions to be answered:
1. Will/can the Canadians make up for the shortfall via the pipelines – and can the cancelled pipeline be built/filled quickly enough to make a difference?
2. Is the Strategic Petroleum Reserve able to fulfill the demand for fuel, and can it be drawn down quickly enough to make a difference?
3. According to the chart here, the Reserve is authorised to hold 727 million barrels, but is currently at 615 million barrels.
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No he didn’t. As far as I’m aware, he never even mentioned it. It was HCQ which he advocated as, by the way, Fauci did way back in 2005 but, of course, that’s been memory holed.
Trump was cured of COVID by a treatment protocol based on Invermectin.
It’s probably safe to say he supports it.
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Winston Smith says:
October 23, 2021 at 6:20 amI mentioned several days ago that the supply issues affecting the West may be a deliberate ploy to force the US and Europe to continue to draw down their oil stocks to cripple the US economy.
I missed that, not around often, but you may have your finger on it.
As to our reserve diesel is stored in the US?
That has to be a deliberate piss take by the government, nobody and I mean nobody, not even a politician can be that stupid as to call that a “strategic reserve” to be drawn upon in an emergency. -
I expect all this fake Manchin opposition to the Biden spending bill will end the day after the Virginia elections (Melbourne Cup day).
Why would he care about Virginia voters? Manchin is a Senator for the great state of West Virginia.
There are no state-wide votes scheduled for West Virginia this year.
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Healthcare Workers & Teachers Protest against mandates – 22.10.21
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQH8nqWK-fo
Oct 22, 2021
Real Rukshan
31.8K subscribersA group of healthcare workers and teachers protested against mandatory vaccinations and job losses on the first day of eased restrictions and greater “freedoms” in Melbourne, Victoria.
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FlyingPigs says:
October 23, 2021 at 4:25 amNow that Australia is a proven fascist economy can we get the oligarch food dispensers to cook some decent chips???
***Make your own Triple Cooked Chips & you’ll never buy chips again.
Fork pierce one side of a few decent sized spuds, zap ’em 5 minutes forked side down then another fork side up.
Meanwhile have the oven heating to top heat.
After zapping give ’em another 5 minutes in the oven, just enough to crisp the skin.
Get ’em out, cut in half to speed the cooling to a heat you can handle.
Meanwhile get the oil heated in a fryer or pot.
Peel the crispy skin off (or not; I like the skin fried quickly, separately), and cut into about 6 to chunky chips per spud.
Don’t over crowd, cook in smaller batches until literally golden brown.
The rough surface browns super crisp, with that crispy roast potato flavour, the inside is a fluffy delight.
Salt. Devour.
It’s sounds more fiddly than normal peeled & fried chips but isn’t.
Most of the work is done by the microwave & oven & the hands on work is quick & easy.
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