Open Thread-Mon 18 Oct 2021


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2,892 responses to “Open Thread-Mon 18 Oct 2021”

  1. Arky Avatar
    Arky

    Ha ha ha…Butt.

  2. Arky Avatar
    Arky

    Reposting from olde threade:

    MatrixTransformsays:
    October 17, 2021 at 11:01 pm
    Nine days ago the unvaccinated group in hospital was 65%. Now they tell us it’s 89%.

    That is probably due to the vaccinated dying like flies.

    We spoke to a bloke yesterday who is responsible for covid patients.
    A lot of them and in both hospital intensive care and home-care post-positive test.
    He gave us well over an hour of his time on the phone.
    He is kind of family so it wasn’t a consultation, it was and earnest and sober and informational act of selflessness and love.

    Both the missus and I have been very VX hesitant due to severe allergies in particular, and also because we know damned well that there is nothing coherent to gleaned from the internet (expecially this forum) and next to no point talking to a GP because as usual they don’t much about shit.

    Who’s gonna listen to a CH9 advertisement when journalists are even bigger whores than politicians?

    Who can trust anything right now with the idiotic messaging from Govt and the shifting of goal posts.
    Can you blame anybody for their dis-belief?
    No, I don’t think so
    ffs, they shoot at you in Melbourne for protesting their own idiotic messaging, mismanagement and policy over-reach.
    FFS !! don’t even get me started on mandates

    any way.

    re: the cohort in hospitalized and double-VXd. Yah, they are positives that are co-morbid.
    So, one of the guys who treats them told me yesterday that they’re there because they are under care. He said they’re hospitalized because they have known comorbidities and need management.

    THEY WONT be the dead ones, he said. They get VXd, theyre already compromised, they test +ve, they get in hospital, they get fixed.

    The ones that are in trouble are the ones where the virus started out mild, then ate them from inside out. un or partially VXd … Inexplicable, devastating and numbering in the hundreds.

    I’ll tell you another thing.
    without actually saying so, I understood why the AZ was a problem.
    Lets just say idiot policy forced it into yr arse (my words)
    but recently that’s changed
    if you came out ok … excellent

    Pfizzer has been administered to billions and basically near zero problems
    We talked about anaphylaxis and all sorts of stuff.
    He said he knows of squillions and only has knowledge of 2 cases here in Vik where allergy was an issue and he said it was mild and manageable.
    a non-event.

    He talked also at length about cases in people already VXnated
    About how they generally present,even if they have a positive test post VXd
    It’s a very very different illness he said.
    They wont die.
    Maybe, if they have some immune problem that they didn’t know about. maybe

    But generally a VXd person who gets the bug … they prolly wont die.

    no the people that do croak are the unvaxxed.
    obviously not all of them by a large proportion
    but its a fucking lottery.

    so for a VX with vanishishingly close to zero problems versus something of a lottery if you catch the bug, it’s kind of a [deleting this because “no brainer” is a pet hate- Arky].

    I know, I’ve been pretty staunch
    I don’t believe a bloody word I hear for the most part (because yr all shit-talkers)
    but this bloke … he’s the only bloke I’d accept it from

  3. Rorschach Avatar
    Rorschach

    Follow the science…

    “It’s More A Gut Feeling Rather Than Based On Really Truly Serious Data”: FDA Panelist On Approving Moderna Boosters

    https://www.informationliberation.com/?id=62613

  4. MatrixTransform Avatar
    MatrixTransform

    you sneaky bastards

  5. MatrixTransform Avatar
    MatrixTransform

    [deleting this because “no brainer” is a pet hate- Arky]

    fascist

  6. Bruce in WA Avatar
    Bruce in WA

    First!

  7. FlyingPigs Avatar
    FlyingPigs

    Australians were doing some work in Mongolia

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4xZUr0BEfE

  8. C.L. Avatar
    C.L.

    Lovely bottom and hips. 🙂

  9. jupes Avatar
    jupes

    A recent survey of 580 AFL and AFLW players suggested 92% were concerned about climate change but most were unsure how they could be part of the solution. AFL Players For Climate Action aims to provide players with credible information from experts in an attempt to effect change.

    Listen fuckheads. There is precisely nothing you can do to change the weather. NOTHING.

    Stand down and desist from lecturing the country on something you are so obviously clueless.

  10. jupes Avatar
    jupes

    Ha ha Johannes Leak … Spot on.

  11. Megan Avatar
    Megan

    Love Leak! Thanks Tom!
    And the thread picture is quite lovely!
    Another gusty morning in AfDanistan.

  12. calli Avatar
    calli

    We’ll see C.L. here a lot for the next few days. 😀

  13. Cassie of Sydney Avatar
    Cassie of Sydney

    Dominic Perrottet and his wife and going to have their seventh child.

    How very nice. Mazaltov to them both.

  14. Zipster Avatar
    Zipster

    When the SARS-CoV-2 virus emerged, scientists already understood a lot about the ‘coronavirus family’. Coronaviruses have been around for many years and they have tried to jump from animals to humans before too, including the SARS coronavirus in 2002 and MERS coronavirus in 2012.2

    Except sar-cov2 didn’t jump to humans it abandoned bats. No intermediate host has been found because one doesn’t exist. The only intermediate host is the wuhan virology laboratory funded by useful idiots and traitors in the NIH.

    This bioweapon used to take control of Hong Kong by the CCP must have a proportionate response by the west. If only anyone in power in the west had any balls.

  15. Eddystone Avatar
    Eddystone

    Tom says:
    October 18, 2021 at 4:04 am

    Warren Brown #2.

    What a wanker.

  16. Cassie of Sydney Avatar
    Cassie of Sydney

    Michael Knowles dealing with far-left progressive activist scum.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpIPs8KzKso

    Check out the grotesque activist. The shirt should also include the words “obese” and “ugly”.

  17. Cassie of Sydney Avatar
    Cassie of Sydney

    “Dominic Perrottet and his wife and going to have their seventh child.”

    This will further anger the usual suspects….their ABC, Nine, The Malcolm Guardian.

    Good…more please.

  18. calli Avatar
    calli

    Michael Knowles dealing with far-left progressive activist scum.

    They’re too lazy to even Reeeeeeeee! properly.

    “Activist” implies actually doing something.

  19. rosie Avatar
    rosie

    Yes lots of nasty comments on twitter.
    Some people just don’t get that Catholics do actually know how to space their families and some get married and choose to accept each gift from God with great joy.
    I come from a family of seven and I love big families.

  20. Bruce of Newcastle Avatar
    Bruce of Newcastle

    israel is doing okay

    Lefty government being totalitarian. Lot of that going around lately.

  21. Knuckle Dragger Avatar
    Knuckle Dragger

    Dilbert #4, and Lester.

    Brilliant, the pair of them.

  22. rosie Avatar
    rosie

    Wasn’t talking about the green pass.
    Incidentally I’ve been in and out of the state of Victoria three times since this crap started.
    Completed the paperwork, been interrogated at the QLD border, and at the airport after the Sydney outbreak last December.
    Don’t tell me I don’t know anything about crossing interstate borders.

  23. Mother Lode Avatar
    Mother Lode

    A recent survey of 580 AFL and AFLW players suggested 92% were concerned about climate change but most were unsure how they could be part of the solution.

    I will own to not being as familiar with AFL players, but Rugby players seem forever entangled in escapades involving sex or gambling or violence or sex (and they seem to have a really strange proclivity for group sex in each others’ company…). Invariably each new revelation is managed by having the player apologise in big words they had never read before that day.

    I can see how a manager would think siding with Climate Change stuff can help present them as worthy role-models for kids again.

  24. Knuckle Dragger Avatar
    Knuckle Dragger

    “Dominic Perrottet and his wife and going to have their seventh child.”

    Bloody hell. That bloke can’t miss.

  25. Bruce of Newcastle Avatar
    Bruce of Newcastle

    Gray on lotr

    Well, elves always did seem rather qwerty. And hobbits are height challenged.
    But maybe all the orcs will now look like Donald Trump.

  26. calli Avatar
    calli

    rosie says:
    October 18, 2021 at 7:53 am

    What new hell is this?

  27. Tom Avatar
    Tom

    Chris Mitchell’s Monday column is a cracker in pointing out the dishonesty of most of the media in refusing to report the real costs of unreliable energy:

    Many environment writers today are in the business of hiding the truth about the costs of renewable energy.
    Few are smart enough to work out the risk to modern democratic capitalism posed by the financial markets’ short-selling of fossil fuels.
    It’s all coming home to roost ahead of the Glasgow COP26 climate conference starting on October 31. Yet many local media outlets are not reporting much about the northern hemisphere energy crisis, and the spiking prices for coal, oil and gas. The media absurdity peaked last week when the bible of climate panic, the Guardian, was forced to concede: “China’s plans to build more coal-fired plants deal a blow to UK’s COP26 ambitions.” This column has been reporting China’s coal expansion since 2016.
    Climate writers should know intermittent energy from wind and solar cannot support grid-scale power 100 per cent of the time. It needs to be backed up with energy storage. This is why former prime minister Malcolm Turnbull launched the Snowy 2.0 pumped hydro scheme, the cost of which has blown out from less than $3bn to more than $6bn, according to Giles Parkinson at the RenewEconomy website.
    Turnbull, in a piece for the Japanese English language website NikkeiAsia, wrote on August 22 about the need for more renewables. “But what is often forgotten is that we also need long-term, large capacity energy storage for when the wind does not blow and the sun does not shine. Unless we address that challenge now, we will either fall back on fossil fuels or face blackouts. This need for energy storage is the ignored crisis within the crisis.”

    That’s the patron saint of renewables Turnbull speaking, not a Murdoch conspiracist. But it gets better: “While lithium batteries can play an important role in storing electricity for a few hours, the only proven technology for storing electricity for longer periods is hydropower.” That is, pumped hydro.
    Reporters here keep telling readers wind and solar are now cheaper than coal. Except the price of back-up will make total power costs much more expensive. Evidence around the world shows power prices faced by consumers rise as the percentage of renewables lifts.
    Reporters often mistake the Tesla batteries – used here since South Australia installed one after the collapse of the state’s power system in September 2016 – for large-scale storage. But such batteries are designed to harmonise and firm the system rather than provide enough power to run the grid.
    A study by the superannuation industry two years ago suggested a national grid-scale battery that could power the nation for 36 hours would cost $6.5 trillion, “or the cost of building 1000 nuclear reactors”, according to a report on ABC Online on June 26, 2019. This newspaper’s environment editor Graham Lloyd, reporting the same study, wrote that between 100 and 150 Snowy 2.0 projects would be needed to do the same job.
    Admittedly, battery storage is becoming cheaper, but even last week a study from three UK academics suggested the cost of enough battery storage to run the UK’s power system for a fortnight, assuming 100 per cent renewables, would be £3 trillion – about 150 per cent of the UK’s annual GDP. Assuming 50 per cent renewables, the cost would be £1.5 trillion.
    This column on September 13 discussed the flight of manufacturing from Europe to China in the 20 years since Europe began actively phasing out fossil fuels. It quoted the Guardian from 2019 saying: “Britain has contributed to the global climate emergency by outsourcing its carbon emissions to the developing world.”

    The planet does not benefit from simply transferring emissions-intensive industries from one region to another. This is why some on the right of politics see UN climate action as a sly way to transfer power and money from the West to the developing world. In fact, the UN has always been upfront about demanding cash payments from the West, and the flow of industry to the developing world is driven more by labour costs than electricity prices.
    Yet people who fear that democracy is losing out to totalitarian systems have a point. The positions of Russia and China ahead of COP26 makes clear why.
    Russia is cashing in on Europe’s energy problems by ramping up the price of gas from its Gazprom state monopoly, probably with an eye to more than just short-term profits. It wants to pressure Germany, which has been silly enough to phase out nuclear power and most of its coal, to back a second gas pipeline, Nord Stream 2, under the Baltic Sea.
    China was always permitted under its Paris Accord commitments to keep lifting CO2 output until 2030. That is why this column has argued COP26 is likely to fail. China’s CO2 rises between now and 2030 could exceed all the cuts made by the rest of the world.
    Another Turnbull clean energy advocate, Malcolm’s son Alex, made the point in a piece on Substack on October 8: “China in a crisis tends to represent a command economy and … the commands are coming thick and fast.” Coal outputs domestically in China are ramping up fast, and “steel production is down 10 per cent year on year”, Turnbull wrote.
    China signalled last week it might need to modify its emissions targets. The Guardian quoted a statement from Chinese Premier Li Keqiang: “It is important to build advanced coal fired power plants … in line with development needs. Domestic oil and gas exploration will be intensified.”

    The big concern for the West is whether modern capitalism contains the seeds of its own destruction. As Treasurer Josh Frydenberg has admitted, Australia will face increased cost of global capital if it does not sign on to net zero by 2050. Reporters should not imagine bankers are doing this for ethical reasons.
    Investors are short-selling the fossil fuel industry because they can make more money on taxpayer-guaranteed renewables. China, India, Russia and much of east Asia will not be following. While the West’s hedge funds will make a motza, hard power will continue to seep from Western Europe and the US. The West’s poorest consumers will pay more.
    There’s also the issue of green hydrogen. The downside, at least with green hydrogen, is the need for more wind and solar to power the process that separates hydrogen and oxygen from water. Why downside? Wind and solar are low-intensity, inefficient ways to generate electricity. They require enormous amounts of land. The life spans of solar cells and wind turbines are limited: when rolled out across the planet they will present a mammoth recycling task when they need replacing.
    Some environmentalists dislike the idea of covering tens of millions of hectares worldwide with this technology. Former Greens leader Bob Brown has criticised wind turbines for killing birds and affecting Tasmania’s natural beauty. He has likened a plan for Tasmania to be the new “battery of the nation” to the discredited Gordon-below-Franklin dam project.
    Yet Australia, with about a third of the world’s uranium deposits, could be a real energy super power using nuclear technology that is not land-use intensive but is energy intensive and nonpolluting.

    Link

  28. Gab Avatar
    Gab

    C.L.says:
    October 18, 2021 at 3:28 am
    Lovely bottom and hips. ?

    —————————

    Harummmmppfffff!

  29. calli Avatar
    calli

    The planet does not benefit from simply transferring emissions-intensive industries from one region to another.

    Yet this simple aspect of what is essentially a closed system escapes most people.

    The planet may not benefit, but that isn’t the point of transferral. What is also being transferred is oodles of cash and influence.

    The planet can go hang.

  30. Gilas Avatar
    Gilas

    Commenting to myself on the old Fred..
    Carried forth from same:

    Somehow, I got onto Quora’s spamming servers some years ago.
    Occasionally, they link me to some interesting threads, like this one on the time required to recoup the cost of building a wind farm.
    Spoiler alert! From 3 months, to never.
    Just like opinions and a…holes.

    In 2016, I saw a single blade from one of these monsters displayed at the entrance of the Bella Center in Copenhagen, site of the 2009 IPCC “tipping point” Conference.

    43 metres in length, 6.4 tonnes of aluminium, aka solidified electricity.. From a Wikipedia reference: 14 – 16 MWh of electrical energy is needed to produce one tonne of aluminium from about two tonnes of alumina, plus environmental waste.
    Do the sums.

    Our Rafe would have a field day with the delusional BS excreted by most of the responders. A couple, further down the thread, gave rational answers, quoting the nirvana of SA’s power prices… Australia in the lead, once again.

  31. Gab Avatar
    Gab

    6 min video
    Cardinal Burke on Marxism and the Great Reset.

  32. Mater Avatar
    Mater

    But generally a VXd person who gets the bug … they prolly wont die.

    no the people that do croak are the unvaxxed.
    obviously not all of them by a large proportion
    but its a fucking lottery.

    So why the secrecy?
    Why the tyrannical measures to force vaccination, when transparency might make such measures unnecessary?

    The real issue here is not whether the vaccines change the equation, the issue is what the government thinks it’s entitled to do against you, for you. It’s the canary in the mineshaft.

    And it all boils down the this:
    If the vaccines are so effective and safe and smell like unicorn deodorant, why have they not been granted Full Approval? I’d suggest because they don’t know if there’s a tail to this tale.

  33. Mater Avatar
    Mater

    From a Wikipedia reference: 14 – 16 MWh of electrical energy is needed to produce one tonne of aluminium from about two tonnes of alumina, plus environmental waste.
    Do the sums.

    Check out how much concrete is required for the foundations of each one of these monsters…and then look at the electricity required to make cement.

  34. Knuckle Dragger Avatar
    Knuckle Dragger

    Lovely bottom and hips

    Could probably do with laying off the Maltesers for a fortnight, but sure.

  35. lotocoti Avatar
    lotocoti

    So Slick Willy has been released from hospital.
    Good news for Bill and Hill, I guess.
    Former First Lady on the run following stunning death bed confession would’ve been good news for everyone else.

  36. rosie Avatar
    rosie

    Hydro is apparently fantastic, except when there is a drought.
    Just ask Venezuela.

  37. rosie Avatar
    rosie

    Don’t vaccines need longitudinal studies to get full approval?

  38. Mater Avatar
    Mater

    Don’t vaccines need longitudinal studies to get full approval?

    To ensure they are safe?
    Probably.

  39. rosie Avatar
    rosie

    People claim that ivermectin prevents covid in the unvaxxinated developing into serious illness.
    I’m not seeing any revelations here.
    There have always been reports of young otherwise healthy people getting inexplicably very sick from covid.
    The Brazilian women in Sydney that died a couple of months ago was one.

  40. Knuckle Dragger Avatar
    Knuckle Dragger

    Apropos of the gullibility waved loud and proud by the general public at large – if people are going to be overly emotive when their wallet and/or purse is out, then they deserve all they get. The Hun:

    Imogen Dixon-Smithers had already named the fluffy border collie ordered from a dog breeders’ website when she discovered it was merely bait in a heartless scam.

    The champion gymnast, 21, is one of more than 2500 Australians stung by so-called ‘pet scams’ this year, which are soaring as law enforcement struggles to shut down their sophisticated, cross-border operations.

    Croos-border? Sure. Sophisticated? Nope. The plan? Tug on a heart string. Accept cash. The end.

    Victims have already lost $3 million to the racket this year — $1 million more than all of 2020, according to the consumer watchdog — and scammers are boldly setting up a string of fake websites to rob more hopeful pet owners.

    Ms Dixon-Smithers, a Sydney high school gymnastics coach, said she started shopping for a border collie with her Mum after the death of their family dog, and found what looked like a reputable breeder from a Google search ad.

    These are people who truly believe they won the Nigerian lottery, or that if they send that African prince cash he’ll send a fortune in return.

    “They were just so convincing,” she said. “I didn’t think there would be people in the world who would do this.”

    There are people in the world who do this, Ms Dixon-Smithers, because there are people in the world like you.

  41. rosie Avatar
    rosie

    I blame lockdowns for the pet scam success stories.

  42. Tom Avatar
    Tom

    Some of the stupidest people ever born end up as TV program managers, especially at the US CBS network’s financial black hole Down Under, the Ten Network. From the Paywallian’s Media Diary:

    In case you’ve been living under a rock, Lisa Wilkinson has been out on the hustings marketing her book – and the show she hosts, Ten’s The Project, wasn’t about to miss out on the action.
    For Ten executives, it had all the elements of a ratings winner: a lovefest interview between Wilkinson and her co-host Hamish Macdonald, juicy revelations about her “gender pay gap” with Karl Stefanovic back when they co-hosted the Today show, and an opportunity to kick the rival Nine network into the bargain.
    There was just one problem. For some reason, Wilkinson being a victim of underpayment was a major turn-off for Ten’s viewers. The Sunday Project attracted its lowest numbers since Wilkinson and Macdonald were reunited nearly two months ago, with just 270,000 viewers tuning in for the show’s first half-hour when the interview screened.
    More importantly for Ten, the poor ratings rubbed off on its entire line-up. The highly-publicised launch of Celebrity MasterChef, which features everyone from Rebecca Gibney to Gordon Ramsay, was soundly beaten by both Daryl Somers’ Hey Hey We’re 50 on Seven and Nine’s The Block.
    Ten executives, we’re told, have been scratching their heads about the numbers, asking: “What went wrong?”
    One possible issue was while Wilkinson and Macdonald were already sitting next to each other live in the studio, they oddly threw to a pre-taped version of themselves having a separate chat at Wilkinson’s Sydney harbourside mansion.
    Then there was the actual content of the chat. At one point of the prerecorded interview, Wilkinson revealed she wasn’t in touch with Stefanovic any more. That prompted Macdonald to ask Wilkinson if Stefanovic would still “like” to be her friend. At that point, Wilkinson looked off camera, saying: “I’d rather we didn’t use this, if you don’t mind, because I don’t want to look like, I’m, you know (trailing off). But I was hurt. I was hurt.”
    Oddly, that grab still made it to air, despite Wilkinson’s request not to use it. She also didn’t miss Nine over its alleged decision to allow a pay gap between Stefanovic and herself. “I think the idea was to humiliate me, because I’d been in negotiations to try and close the gender pay gap,” she said. When Macdonald asked her how big the gap was, she replied: “Doesn’t get much bigger than the gap I experienced. I was very expendable.”
    Back live after the interview concluded, there was then an outbreak of mutual love between the pair, after Wilkinson thanked Macdonald for making the interview a “safe space”.
    “Love you Lise,” Macdonald said. “Right back at you,” Wilkinson replied.
    But Diary hears after the low ratings from the interview, there’ll be no further plugs on The Project for Wilkinson’s book before its launch early next month.

    A friend of mine has tried several times to fund out who is the program director at Network Ten (as he and I both watch NCIS). He has been told Ten doesn’t have one – which makes sense if the network you just bought is a strategic tax write-off.

  43. Tom Avatar
    Tom

    D’oh. find, not fund …

  44. Cassie of Sydney Avatar
    Cassie of Sydney

    “with just 270,000 viewers tuning in for the show’s first half-hour when the interview screened.”

    That many! Such narcissistic drivel only warrants 270 viewers.

  45. Bruce of Newcastle Avatar
    Bruce of Newcastle

    The champion gymnast, 21, is one of more than 2500 Australians stung by so-called ‘pet scams’ this year

    Yeah, there was a story like this in The Express yesterday:

    Woman shocked after £600 ‘purebred French bulldog’ grows into completely different breed (17 Oct)

    Bethany Cupples, from Huddersfield in West Yorkshire, bought the dog after she came across a pet advertisement on Gumtree. When she went to collect the puppy in May 2020, at only five-weeks-old, she realised something wasn’t quite right but “instantly fell in love” with the pet.

    Gumtree, eh. At 600 pounds for a puppy you can see where the incentive might be.

  46. miltonf Avatar
    miltonf

    Thanks for the post Tom- these meja parasites are repulsive and totally unaware.

  47. miltonf Avatar
    miltonf

    I had imagined CBS bought ten because it was suitably culturally marxist.

  48. rosie Avatar
    rosie

    It’s The Project meant to be a current affairs program?
    Sounds more like TV week.

  49. Knuckle Dragger Avatar
    Knuckle Dragger

    There was just one problem.

    Several problems, actually.

    It’s a dead heat between the Amazon River and Wilkinson for the size of their respective mouths.

    Wilkinson portraying herself as a streetwise, gritty anchorchick fighting against The Man is another, when the reality was she got to the top of her heap by the same bitchy undermining, and shopping for sponsor daddies (network chiefs), thus strangling all competition with their own pantyhose that she’s moaning about now.

    Telling the punters to eat their mounting power bills and follow every one of her and her idiot husband’s pet projects from the barrios, while she munches on cucumber sangers (and Maltesers) from her mansion.

    Generally stomping about the place like Matron from A Country Practice. Aaaand so on.

  50. Farmer Gez Avatar
    Farmer Gez

    There was just one problem. For some reason, Wilkinson being a victim of underpayment was a major turn-off for Ten’s viewers.

    Other women don’t like her, that’s it in a nutshell.

  51. rosie Avatar
    rosie

    I had to google to see who she was.
    I remember the pay gap thing.
    I guess she wasn’t his star equal after all.

  52. areff Avatar
    areff

    Knife maniac running wild in Melb shopping centre, 3AW reports. Didn’t catch which one or where

  53. Gab Avatar
    Gab

    Knife maniac running wild in Melb shopping centre,

    Unless he’s not wearing a mask, the police won’t bother.

  54. Rabz Avatar
    Rabz

    AFL Players For Climate Action

    Beyond parody.

  55. Twostix Avatar
    Twostix

    So matrix’s guy says that fully vaccinated people are dying because of comorbidities.

    Thank you captain obvious.

    Perfectly parroting the currently approved narrative, repackaged into folksy insiderism.

    Lol.

  56. min Avatar
    min

    Just askin for a friend is it better to be rooted or to be F####ed

  57. lotocoti Avatar
    lotocoti

    Imogen Dixon-Smithers sounds like the sort of alias one would use
    when setting up an online wellness scam.

  58. Sancho Panzer Avatar
    Sancho Panzer

    Dilbert #3 at 7:02 neatly encapsulates the vax decision.

  59. Mater Avatar
    Mater

    Don’t vaccines need longitudinal studies to get full approval?

    I will add, Rosie, that the TGA felt quite comfortable changing regulations to rule a line through two of the four requirements to achieve Provisional Approval (only for Covid medications), so if they are certain enough about the vaccines to oversee them mandated, surely they can rule line through a couple of other requirements for Full Approval?

    Or do they want to maintain the defence that ‘they were only provisionally approved’?

    Sure, Full Approval traditionally requires longitudinal studies. Dare I speculate that, traditionally, mandating a substance would’ve required Full Approval?

    A lot of ‘unprecedenteds’ going around.

  60. Sancho Panzer Avatar
    Sancho Panzer

    AFL Players For Climate Action

    Why do they play at night under power guzzling electric lights when they could play in daylight?

  61. Sancho Panzer Avatar
    Sancho Panzer

    areffsays:

    October 18, 2021 at 8:56 am

    Knife maniac running wild in Melb shopping centre, 3AW reports. Didn’t catch which one or where

    Brunswick.
    It’s the toilet paper again.

  62. Tom Avatar
    Tom

    Knife maniac running wild in Melb shopping centre

    Biden’s surrender to the Taliban has embolded every Muslim fanatic on earth.

  63. lotocoti Avatar
    lotocoti

    these meja parasites are repulsive and totally unaware.

    Right on cue, the Dapto Dog Caller gets wood over the Singleton publican losing his livelihood trying not to lose his livelihood.

  64. P Avatar
    P

    9 more deaths as Singapore reports 3,348 new COVID-19 cases
    16 Oct 2021 11:53PM (Updated: 17 Oct 2021 01:17AM)

  65. Mater Avatar
    Mater

    Just askin for a friend is it better to be rooted or to be F####ed

    I’ve heard a similar question posed:

    “Would you prefer to be made love to, or f####ed?”

    The answer?

    “Depends on my mood!”

  66. Twostix Avatar
    Twostix

    More generally apparently we are to believe that there is a mass of unvaccinated 80 and 90 year olds and they are wandering around the streets of uber locked down Sydney and Melbourne – dodging storm troopers, catching covid from all their close contacts then dying begging the nurse for the vaccine on their deathbed (oh wait that’s only completely made up healthy 20 year olds doing that last part isn’t it).

    Every single bit of this new narrative is stupid and falls apart immediately.

    The reality: the vaccine is barely 30-40% ‘effective’, wears off after a few months, doesn’t stop transmission or infection, simply kicks the can down the road and may make a much worse situation for everyone then via lowered immunity in the ‘jabbed’, upwards pressure on the virus, putting off natural immunity, etc.

    Should be reserved for old and sick people only, like they said at the beginning. But no, greed and mania flows now.

  67. Cassie of Sydney Avatar
    Cassie of Sydney

    This from Jacqueline Magnay at the Oz re. the murder of Sir David Amess…

    “Ali is alleged to have made a booking to see Sir David, a father of five and well-respected Tory MP for nearly four decades, during his regular Friday meetings with Essex constituents at a local church at Leigh-On-Sea around a week prior to the attack.

    Sir David, 69, had just finished a video hook-up with a constituent friend with whom he was organising a children’s parliament. During the call he was seen glancing several times to his right.

    When he was attacked just after noon, Sir David’s assistant ran screaming in horror to the front of the church. The assailant did not attempt to leave the scene and was arrested when police arrived.

    Ali grew up in Croydon in South London but was reportedly referred to the Prevent program which attempts to reform radicalised youths. Most recently he had been living at an expensive North London address.

    Ali’s father, Harbi Ali Kullane, 61, who splits his time between London and Nairobi and was a former media spokesman for the Somalia prime minister, has been interviewed by police and was said to be deeply traumatised by his son’s arrest.

    Does the Magnay and the rest of the MSM have anything to say about the trauma being suffered by Mrs Amess, his five children, his extended family and his assistant who “ran screaming in horror“?

    The MSM are scum.

  68. rosie Avatar
    rosie

    Have the federal government already quietly lifted restrictions on leaving Australia?
    Just ran a random return trip through sky scanner leaving 23 October returning January
    $1854 return out to Barcelona return via Paris.
    So tempted to get out of Dodge.

  69. Razey Avatar
    Razey

    rosiesays:
    October 18, 2021 at 9:30 am
    Have the federal government already quietly lifted restrictions on leaving Australia?
    Just ran a random return trip through sky scanner leaving 23 October returning January
    $1854 return out to Barcelona return via Paris.
    So tempted to get out of Dodge.

    Not without the clot shot you won’t.

  70. Bear Necessities Avatar
    Bear Necessities

    Rooted is the Australian way to be …………

  71. Indolent Avatar
    Indolent

    The MSM are scum.

    To put it mildly.

  72. Wally Dalí Avatar
    Wally Dalí

    It’s hard to escape the feeling that these wrist-slitting programs where youth at risk of radicalization- ie becoming race- or faith-based murderers- start with the plastic chairs in a circle, with hormonal kids on welfare seated all around, and a European in the middle saying how frightfully sorry they are that Europeans have spent history being beastly to the darkies.

  73. rosie Avatar
    rosie

    Really, I had no idea Razey.
    I was referring to the general no-one can leave without jumping through a thousand hoops rules.

  74. Mother Lode Avatar
    Mother Lode

    “I think the idea was to humiliate me, because I’d been in negotiations to try and close the gender pay gap,”

    You can have a gender pay gap between an individual man and an individual woman? I thought the idea was that there is a broad trend based on gender, not a one-to-one.

    I expect that there are plenty of men at Channel 10 that are paid less that Ms Pirate Pete. Is that a gender pay gap? And if you excuse that on the basis of what they contribute I would expect Karl, loathsome though I find him, likely drew more eyes to the show than she did.

    Perhaps when she was younger Lisa was a bit of a looker, but from what I have seen the years have not been kind. Instead, they have been fair, and that has not gone in her favour.

  75. Dr Faustus Avatar
    Dr Faustus

    So matrix’s guy says that fully vaccinated people are dying because of comorbidities.

    Thank you captain obvious.

    What matrix’s guy says:

    re: the cohort in hospitalized and double-VXd. Yah, they are positives that are co-morbid.
    So, one of the guys who treats them told me yesterday that they’re there because they are under care. He said they’re hospitalized because they have known comorbidities and need management.

    THEY WONT be the dead ones, he said. They get VXd, theyre already compromised, they test +ve, they get in hospital, they get fixed.

    Very, very close.

  76. Mother Lode Avatar
    Mother Lode

    Knife maniac running wild in Melb shopping centre,

    Unless he’s not wearing a mask, the police won’t bother.

    Why do you think he is being called a maniac?

    They only mention the knife to warn the Vicstapo to be careful when arresting him for not having a mask.

  77. lotocoti Avatar
    lotocoti

    Does the Magnay and the rest of the MSM have anything to say about the trauma …

    Standby for tales of trauma suffered by those forced into hiding by the h8trs.
    I have no idea what s/h/it is supposed to be.

  78. Razey Avatar
    Razey

    rosiesays:
    October 18, 2021 at 9:37 am
    Really, I had no idea Razey.
    I was referring to the general no-one can leave without jumping through a thousand hoops rules.

    We were going to apply, but by the time it would have gotten approved, the BS would have been lifted (which is early Nov I think). Unfortunately we will now need the clot shot to escape this Fascist shit hole.

    I need more long term data before taking the clot shot so will hold out another year, and the only reason I will take the clot shot is to leave the country for good.
    Sayonara! I’ll be sure to slam the door shut on the way out 😉

  79. Indolent Avatar
    Indolent

    A comparison of official Government (U.K.) reports suggest the Fully Vaccinated are developing Acquired Immunodeficiency Syndrome

    Several doctors (Dr. Ryan Cole springs to mind) have suggested that the vaccines affect the innate immune system. No vaccine should be widely released, let alone mandated, without long term testing.

  80. H B Bear Avatar
    H B Bear

    Mother Lode at 9:39 = TV has always been brutal on women. Nobody wants to look at Old Boilers. Most of them got their start elbowing somebody just like them out of the way. C’est la vie. And yes, Karl is a knob, which is not necessarily a problem if you work in media.

  81. Farmer Gez Avatar
    Farmer Gez

    266 for NSW.
    Prepare for a surge in cases when restrictions are lifted or not.

  82. rosie Avatar
    rosie

    That’s great in theory indolent but imagine a scenario where millions were dying of a disease right now, do you realistically think saying to people just wait ten years and we might have something for you is a grand idea?

  83. calli Avatar
    calli

    was said to be deeply traumatised by his son’s arrest

    Says it all.

    Not traumatised about the heinous crime but about the arrest.

  84. Sancho Panzer Avatar
    Sancho Panzer

    “I think the idea was to humiliate me, because I’d been in negotiations to try and get more for me me me close the gender pay gap,” she said. When Macdonald asked her how big the gap was, she replied: “Doesn’t get much bigger than the gap I experienced. I was very expendable.”

    Yeah.
    Must really resonate with the women sewing clothes in a Dandenong sweat-shop.

  85. Sancho Panzer Avatar
    Sancho Panzer

    Farmer Gezsays:

    October 18, 2021 at 9:48 am

    266 for NSW.
    Prepare for a surge in cases when restrictions are lifted or not.

    NRL Grand Final parties, anyone?
    Anyone?

  86. lotocoti Avatar
    lotocoti

    Unless he’s not wearing a mask, the police won’t bother.

    They will bother, but they’ll wait until he’s all stabbed out before moving in.
    It’ll be safer that way.

  87. H B Bear Avatar
    H B Bear

    Knife maniac running wild in Melb shopping centre

    Knife wielding maniacs are the new men of Middle Eastern appearance.

  88. Cassie of Sydney Avatar
    Cassie of Sydney

    “Says it all.

    Not traumatised about the heinous crime but about the arrest.”

    Don’t worry, the perpetrator is already the victim here. Not Sir David.

    Just like Raghe Abdi was the victim…..after he’d slaughtered Maurice and Zoe Antill.

  89. H B Bear Avatar
    H B Bear

    Never forget – Victoriastan only has Covid because NSW.

  90. Indolent Avatar
    Indolent

    That’s great in theory indolent but imagine a scenario where millions were dying of a disease right now, do you realistically think saying to people just wait ten years and we might have something for you is a grand idea?

    Dr. Fauci himself said in 2005 that chloroquine was a game changer for corona viruses. Chloroquine and the later, milder version Hydroxychloroquine have been administered to people over some 70 odd years in billions of doses. I believe that some 20 deaths from it have been reported over that period. That’s not even to mention Ivermectin which has only been around for about 40 odd years and was also on the safe medicines list.

    I would suggest that it might be more prudent to use safe, well known therapeutics before new and untested drugs, which should never have been even provisionally approved since that can only be done when no other medication is available, which is patently not the case.

    Tens, or even hundred of thousands of people have died because they were allowed to suffer the disease untreated (even before the vaccines were available) when a safe treatment was known and available. These deaths were necessary to build up the hysteria around the vaccines. I wonder if anyone, ever will be held accountable for this.

  91. H B Bear Avatar
    H B Bear

    One question- exactly where those leaving Australia are going? I think you could make a case for a remote beach in Vietnam and parts of the US. Then I struggle.

  92. miltonf Avatar
    miltonf

    Just like Raghe Abdi was the victim…..after he’d slaughtered Maurice and Zoe Antill.
    Yes attacked and killed by people imported by the Federal Government. By some shiny bum APS in Canbra the parasite robber state.

  93. P Avatar
    P

    It’s awful, but I like it. I think it’s the first time she’s actually smiled in five years
    I saw it — so now you have to

    https://twitter.com/ezralevant/status/1449570690953273349

  94. Bruce of Newcastle Avatar
    Bruce of Newcastle

    I think you could make a case for a remote beach in Vietnam

    Less communist than Australia?

  95. Farmer Gez Avatar
    Farmer Gez

    NSW opened up at 70% on the 11th Oct.
    Hospital cases have since fallen by 163.

    The hospital system “ under extreme pressure” seems have a relief valve.

  96. Indolent Avatar
    Indolent

    remember all those freakouts by various ticks because Gladys wasn’t something something, now Victoria is opening up with well over 2000 cases a day. Crickets.

    Somebody this morning was saying that they’re opening up but that customers will still not be allowed in retail shops, which will have to sell their goods outside!

    Is this real? Surely it’s time for the men in white coats and butterfly nets to take Dan away to a safe place.

  97. Wally Dalí Avatar
    Wally Dalí

    Cat Choice recommendations pleeease-
    Which podcast app should I download for me phone, these long lonely days?
    Does spotify carry interesting- ie outside the Overton window-stuff?

  98. H B Bear Avatar
    H B Bear

    Less communist than Australia?

    Yep. Full of hard working small business people. Would want an international hospital within suitable train journey though, which is where these grand plans often fall over.

  99. Sancho Panzer Avatar
    Sancho Panzer

    Cassie of Sydneysays:

    October 18, 2021 at 6:32 am

    Dominic Perrottet and his wife and going to have their seventh child.

    How very nice. Mazaltov to them both.

    Indeed. I know it is early but I think this calls for a Mazaltov Cocktail.
    If they haven’t already, the usual suspects will be tut-tutting about large families destroying the planet.

  100. rosie Avatar
    rosie

    Hydroxychloroquine was taken off the list by the fda after getting provisionally approved because it was causing serious heart problems.
    As for ivermectin, maybe it just doesn’t work.
    Allen West was on the ivermectin hydroxychloroquine protocol.
    He got very sick, was hospitalised and received a monoclonal antibodies infusion which costs around 2k.
    Despite that he is still railing against ‘big pharma’ and infinitely cheaper vaccinations.
    Nothing more to say about ivermectin though.
    article here, West loving the other big pharma product.

  101. rosie Avatar
    rosie

    Maybe life in most places is more normal than you can imagine Bear.
    The UK certainly seems pretty normal, all of Scandinavia definitely is.

  102. Eyrie Avatar
    Eyrie

    Hydroxychloroquine was taken off the list by the fda after getting provisionally approved because it was causing serious heart problems.

    WHEN GIVEN IN KNOWN TOXIC DOSES. Also late in the disease. It was never claimed to be good unless taken early.
    Stop the bullshit, notaclue.

  103. Bruce of Newcastle Avatar
    Bruce of Newcastle

    A comparison of official Government (U.K.) reports suggest the Fully Vaccinated are developing Acquired Immunodeficiency Syndrome

    As I said before the problem with mRNA producing spike proteins on the surface of previously normal human cells is the immune system isn’t that great at spotting the pathogen. Instead it tends to go into panic mode and sends out the troops to find and kill the invading army. So when they find a cell which is apparently infected they will produce antibodies to that cell…and maybe to the spike protein. But if they generate antibodies to another feature sticking out of the cell membrane you now have an autoimmune disease, since that receptor is a normal one.

    Then when the immune system starts producing lots of antibodies to the normal receptor it wears itself out because the receptors are naturally replaced as fast as they are attacked by the inappropriate antibodies. So you end up with Acquired Immunodeficiency Syndrome.

    Being spring I’ve massive allergies from pollen. Those allergies occurred because of prior flu infections (pre fluvax), when my immune system attacked anything it thought was the pathogen. The influenza virus was eradicated but the pollen still turns up every year, and every year my immune system goes nuts for several months. All because the B cells can’t shoot straight, or discriminate that well between what is the enemy and what is harmless.

    And the mRNA vaccines are pasting targets on normal cells saying “shoot at me!”

    I don’t think this experiment on the human race is going to go down in history as one of the brighter moments in science.

  104. rickw Avatar
    rickw

    Massive que at Centrelink, although no idea if this is normal or not.

  105. rickw Avatar
    rickw

    Then when the immune system starts producing lots of antibodies to the normal receptor it wears itself out because the receptors are naturally replaced as fast as they are attacked by the inappropriate antibodies. So you end up with Acquired Immunodeficiency Syndrome.

    Isn’t this the reason that mRNA tech was only being pursued by smaller biotech companies?

  106. dover0beach Avatar

    Mollie
    @MZHemingway
    ·
    3h
    Loudoun County prosecutor who sought to jail father of girl allegedly raped at school tied to Soros, McAuliffe https://foxnews.com/politics/loudoun-county-prosecutor-soros-mcauliffe #FoxNews

    From Mollie’s link:

    The Loudoun County prosecutor who sought jail time against a father who was arrested at a school board meeting after his daughter was allegedly sexually assaulted in a school bathroom has ties to progressive megadonor George Soros and Democratic Virginia gubernatorial nominee Terry McAuliffe.

    Loudoun County Commonwealth’s Attorney Buta Biberaj was described in the explosive report by The Daily Wire as the “progressive” elected county prosecutor who ran on a platform of ending “mass incarceration,” but yet she sought jail time for disorderly conduct and resisting arrest, both misdemeanor charges, against Scott Smith.

    Soft on ideological friends, tough on ideological enemies. Sponsored by Soros.

  107. Sancho Panzer Avatar
    Sancho Panzer

    rosiesays:

    October 18, 2021 at 10:06 am

    so glad I don’t live in Queensland

    The upside is that you can escape to SA with a few of clicks of a mouse snd a couple of tanks of petrol.

  108. Dr Faustus Avatar
    Dr Faustus

    In Unintentional Irony news:

    Cop26 corporate sponsors condemn climate summit as ‘mismanaged’

    The sponsors, which include some of Britain’s biggest companies, have raised formal complaints blaming “very inexperienced” civil servants for delayed decisions, poor communication and a breakdown in relations between the organisers and firms in the run-up to the landmark talks.

    The agony of a poor return on the virtue signalling dollar. The greatest moral challenge of the 21st Century.

  109. Megan Avatar
    Megan

    Wally, I use Podbean for podcasts. Not sure how much our personal listening preferences might overlap.

    Delingpole’s podcast is on there. Make of that what you will.

  110. Gab Avatar
    Gab

    rickwsays:
    October 18, 2021 at 10:27 am
    Massive que at Centrelink, although no idea if this is normal or not.

    Let us know how you get on with Centrelink. I may need to do the same.

  111. JC Avatar
    JC

    Eyrie says:
    October 18, 2021 at 10:23 am
    Hydroxychloroquine was taken off the list by the fda after getting provisionally approved because it was causing serious heart problems.

    WHEN GIVEN IN KNOWN TOXIC DOSES. Also late in the disease. It was never claimed to be good unless taken early.
    Stop the bullshit, notaclue.

    Fsulty2 got all his Hydro information from that noted high end scientific journal – Market Ticker . Or is it Market Tik Tok?

  112. JC Avatar
    JC

    A comparison of official Government (U.K.) reports suggest the Fully Vaccinated are developing Acquired Immunodeficiency Syndrome

    Post the data so we can see it, Bruce.

  113. rosie Avatar
    rosie

    You keep repeating the same false talking points eerie.
    No-one in the hydroxychloroquine trials got a higher dose that given to people who are treated with hydroxychloroquine for diseases like lupus or malaria.
    And taken early it just didn’t work.
    uhoh nejm article on hydroxychloroquine as a prophylactic

  114. H B Bear Avatar
    H B Bear

    Massive que at Centrelink, although no idea if this is normal or not.

    Centrelink (and public hospital) are great places to catch up on your reading. Take a book.

  115. Wally Dali Avatar
    Wally Dali

    Megan, thanks for that- it’s first up to the block.

  116. Dr Faustus Avatar
    Dr Faustus

    A comparison of official Government (U.K.) reports suggest the Fully Vaccinated are developing Acquired Immunodeficiency Syndrome

    AIDS by Christmas for most of the UK. A very modest and well-considered claim:

    The 5 PHE tables below from their excellent Vaccine Surveillance Report, separated by 4 weeks, clearly show the progressive damage that the vaccines are doing to the immune system’s response.

    Everybody over 30 will have lost 100% of their entire immune capability (for viruses and certain cancers) within 6 months.

    30-50 year olds will have lost it by Christmas. These people will then effectively have full blown acquired immunodeficiency syndrome and destroy the NHS.

    Unfortunately, the excellent PHE Vaccine Surveillance Report doesn’t report on ‘entire immune system capability’, or anything close.

    So, probably only 97.3% truthy…

  117. Sancho Panzer Avatar
    Sancho Panzer

    Centrelink (and public hospital) are great places to catch up on your reading. Take a book.

    Jury duty is the other one.
    My book of choice is “The Persecution of George Pell”.

  118. Dr Faustus Avatar
    Dr Faustus

    rosie says:
    October 18, 2021 at 10:06 am
    so glad I don’t live in Queensland

    NSFW warning next time.
    Thanking you in advance.

  119. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha Avatar
    Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Massive que at Centrelink, although no idea if this is normal or not.

    The record, at my local Centrelink, is the police being called three times in one day, to break up fights…

  120. H B Bear Avatar
    H B Bear

    so glad I don’t live in Queensland

    Used to be a common refrain as cricket season rolled around. Now often heard in WA too.

  121. H B Bear Avatar
    H B Bear

    Centrelink queues make Local Court look like the Weld Club.

  122. Fair Shake Avatar
    Fair Shake

    In the Oz

    Amess murder suspect’s father ‘traumatised

    MSM moves on to the real victim is the terrorists family. FFS.

  123. Farmer Gez Avatar
    Farmer Gez

    University of Melbourne “experts” warning of a spike in cases and pressure on our hospitals system if we open up to international travel and risk a Covid variant being introduced into Australia.
    Thanks for the share, now F#%k off!

  124. Arky Avatar
    Arky

    H B Bearsays:
    October 18, 2021 at 11:01 am
    Centrelink queues make Local Court look like the Weld Club.

    ..
    There’s a Weld Club?

  125. H B Bear Avatar
    H B Bear

    You always see somebody who has never had any interaction with government trying to negotiate the age pension maze. They are easily recognised. They are the ones with their jaw on the ground and pulling their hair out.

  126. johanna Avatar
    johanna

    “li’s father, Harbi Ali Kullane, 61, who splits his time between London and Nairobi and was a former media spokesman for the Somalia prime minister, has been interviewed by police and was said to be deeply traumatised by his son’s arrest.“

    Does the Magnay and the rest of the MSM have anything to say about the trauma being suffered by Mrs Amess, his five children, his extended family and his assistant who “ran screaming in horror“?”
    xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
    Well said.

    Even worse, polliemuppets and a compliant meeja are now saying that this means that MPs need more taxpayer funded protection and should stop meeting constituents face to face. Great win for the lazy backbenchers on both sides, who will have to do even less to collect their salary, and be even more insulated from reality.

    And while they are very exercised about protecting politicians, protecting the general public is very low on their list of priorities because ‘racism’ and ‘Islamophobia’ and all that. Armed guards for me but not for thee, etc.

    Once again the spin is all about outpourings of grief, instead of what should be outpourings of anger. Can’t have that, it might upset someone or hurt their feelings. Better to be knifed than to hurt someone’s feelings, apparently.

    The meeja and the political class really are scum – with a few notable exceptions.

  127. Dr Faustus Avatar
    Dr Faustus

    Net zero by 2050 climate plan may not be decided by COP26, as Nationals’ Barnaby Joyce warns against being ‘forced into a corner’

    A Shitweasel opines:

    Shadow Climate Change Minister Chris Bowen said the Nationals had already been given years to settle on a climate plan.

    “Eight years in office, 21 energy policies, weeks before the most important climate change conference we’ve seen and the government doesn’t know what its policy is,” Mr Bowen said.

    True.
    But with a whiff of political fear and desperation:

    However, Mr Bowen did not outline Labor’s own plan to reach net zero emissions although, he said, the 2050 target should be legislated, and that medium-term targets should be increased.

    “We actually want to give the government a chance to get this right … and see if we can give them bipartisan support.”

    These are terrible people.
    Blundering into the abyss, trying to grab whatever they can from the wreckage.

  128. H B Bear Avatar
    H B Bear

    There’s a Weld Club?

    Yep. If you liked the 1950s you’ll love it.

  129. MatrixTransform Avatar
    MatrixTransform

    I have been expecting a reaming.
    fair enough too

    super super busy this morning
    will try and get on later today

  130. Knuckle Dragger Avatar
    Knuckle Dragger

    Guarantees?

    There are no guarantees. Not when directing other people to stand and fight, and if necessary fall – ‘when we have a chance of winning’. Clearly, things are getting squealy.

    Not can’t go. Just won’t go.

    The End.

  131. rickw Avatar
    rickw

    The Centrelink que is basically an unvaxxed convention.

    Does Vikpol know this?

  132. Baba Avatar
    Baba

    There’s a Weld Club?

    Meets every Tuesday.

  133. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha Avatar
    Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    There’s a Weld Club?

    Is membership still “Men Only?”

  134. rickw Avatar
    rickw

    Let us know how you get on with Centrelink. I may need to do the same.

    Gab, I took wallet and passport, seemed to go pretty smoothly, now need to get back home and do some online stuff.

    Go and get they payments, it’s akin to putting the Federal Government’s balls in a vice for being complete Mongs.

  135. Razey Avatar
    Razey

    H B Bearsays:
    October 18, 2021 at 10:05 am
    One question- exactly where those leaving Australia are going? I think you could make a case for a remote beach in Vietnam and parts of the US. Then I struggle.

    We are moving to Japan. They never locked down and cannot mandate. It is ILLEGAL for government to lockdown or mandate the clot shot. In addition, the Tokyo Medical Board has recommended to use Ivermectin.

  136. Fair Shake Avatar
    Fair Shake

    There’s a Weld Club?
    Is membership still “Men Only?”

    Except Jennifer Beal who plays Alex Owen Flashdance’s female dancer/welder. A chip off the old slag as they say.

  137. Rex Anger Avatar
    Rex Anger

    The upside is that you can escape to SA with a few of clicks of a mouse and a couple of tanks of petrol.

    Guarantees?
    What fucking drop kicks.
    Things can change on borders within minutes.

    Not if you drive trains, or are man enough to take your truck forth and suffer the Bings and Bongs of outrageous fortune (And drive to the actual hours you recorded in your logbook)…

  138. Rex Anger Avatar
    Rex Anger

    Except Jennifer Beal who plays Alex Owen Flashdance’s female dancer/welder.

    Grinding out has never been so NSFW before…

  139. cohenite Avatar
    cohenite

    And so it starts; the muzzies now out and about frothing about targeting of the muzzies because one of their own sliced and diced the old conservative pollie:

    https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/uknews/muslim-group-to-issue-hate-crime-support-after-killing-of-david-amess/ar-AAPDjEC?ocid=entnewsntp

    “Our own social media has been rife with hatred,” Mohammed added, after the MCB released statements over the weekend in support of the late Conservative MP and his family, and condemning the killing as “an attack on democracy”.

    And just so you know the muzzies are the good guys and the bad guys are the ones reacting to the slicing and the dicing, the family of the kunt who did this should now be left alone and the killer was a really nice guy who was very polite:

    https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/uknews/very-polite-very-kind-neighbours-shock-as-police-search-london-flat-in-sir-david-amess-murder-probe/ar-AAPCWL0?ocid=entnewsntp

  140. Bruce of Newcastle Avatar
    Bruce of Newcastle

    JC – Go soak you head. I was quoting Indolent. Only you could be thick enough not to realize that.

  141. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha Avatar
    Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    There has been anecdotal evidence of threats against some British Somalis since the tragic incident, Mohammed said, particularly towards “visibly Muslim Somali women” – and against some Somali organisations.

    From cohenite’s link. “Visibly Muslim” Somali women……

  142. GreyRanga Avatar
    GreyRanga

    Nota’s glad she doesn’t live in Queensland. In other news so are they.

  143. Roger Avatar
    Roger

    This is a global supply chain crisis caused by a worldwide slow-motion, but accelerating collapse of globalisation. As the American economist Matt Stoller underlines, globalisation “has left us uniquely unprepared to manage a supply shock. Our hyper-efficient globalized supply chain, once romanticized by men like Tom Friedman in The World Is Flat, is the problem. Like the financial system before the 2008 crash, this kind of economic order hides its fragility. It seems to work quite well, until it doesn’t.” Now, we’re beginning to see what it looks like when it doesn’t.

    And yet, in a stunning example of cognitive dissonance, we see liberal commentators who warn of the looming catastrophe of climate collapse simultaneously arguing that fragile globalised supply chains are somehow both desirable and permanent. Like the famous quote that it’s easier to imagine the end of the world than the end of capitalism, it seems it’s easier for these people to imagine total civilisational collapse than not being able to eat Kenyan strawberries in midwinter.

    Aris Roussinos on the collapse of globalisation. RTWT

  144. Baba Avatar
    Baba

    Just in time for Glasgow COP26.

    Sudden Stratospheric Warming

  145. rosie Avatar
    rosie

    Greyranga is a nasty man with no sense of humour, and unsurprisingly, an antivaxxer.
    Starting to notice a pattern.

  146. JC Avatar
    JC

    Bruce of Newcastle says:
    October 18, 2021 at 11:33 am
    JC – Go soak you head. I was quoting Indolent. Only you could be thick enough not to realize that.

    Bruce, it doesn’t matter if you’re quoting Cronkite about real estate porn. If you post a huge comment like that and you obviously think it’s correct then present the fucking data or STFU.

  147. Bruce of Newcastle Avatar
    Bruce of Newcastle

    University of Melbourne “experts” warning of a spike in cases and pressure on our hospitals system if we open up to international travel and risk a Covid variant being introduced into Australia.

    Went to shops this morning, was behind a Danistani at the lights. Number plate says Victoria – The Education State. It was painfully amusing. I thought of alternatives and decided Victoria – The Fascist State suited best.

  148. A Suggestion Avatar
    A Suggestion

    rosie says:
    October 18, 2021 at 11:43 am
    Greyranga is a nasty man with no sense of humour, and unsurprisingly, an antivaxxer.
    Starting to notice a pattern.

    And you’re a frightened panicky woman with shrill voice. Starting to notice a pattern.

  149. rickw Avatar
    rickw

    One of the recommendations from the unvaxxed que:

    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCyD52JnQnXkLe5HGm4IArHw

  150. Dot Avatar

    Hydroxychloroquine was taken off the list by the fda after getting provisionally approved because it was causing serious heart problems.
    As for ivermectin, maybe it just doesn’t work.

    No. Please stop.

    Nor are vaccines cheaper.

  151. dover0beach Avatar

    I think this went unnoticed last week:

    Babbitt shooting internal police docs reveal ‘no good reason for shooting,’ according to Judicial Watch
    More than 500 pages of internal documents from DC Metropolitan Police concerning the fatal shooting of Ashli Babbitt in the Capitol on Jan. 6 reveal witness accounts stating she was not holding a weapon at the time of her death and how “upset” the officer was after shooting her.

    “These previously secret records show there was no good reason to shoot and kill Ashli Babbitt,” stated Tom Fitton, president of Judicial Watch, which obtained the documents through a May 2021 FOIA lawsuit. “The Biden-Garland Justice Department and the Pelosi Congress have much to answer for the over the mishandling and cover-up of this scandalous killing of an American citizen by the U.S. Capitol Police.”

  152. rosie Avatar
    rosie

    Things have never changed on borders within minutes.
    I’ve made sure I saw my daughter several times since the pandemic started.
    Gutless wonders with frail parents in South Australia, nonce.

  153. Sancho Panzer Avatar
    Sancho Panzer

    H B Bearsays:

    October 18, 2021 at 11:01 am

    Centrelink queues make Local Court look like the Weld Club.

    Back when ‘work for the dole’ was on the agenda, graffiti in Melbourne CBD:-
    “Dealing with Centrelink is working for the dole”

  154. Gab Avatar
    Gab

    RickW

    Thanks. I’m still getting paid, but that could change any second, so I don’t think I need to front up to C/Link just yet.

  155. Bruce of Newcastle Avatar
    Bruce of Newcastle

    JC – Have you fully soaked your head yet, to get the fluff out from between your ears? There’s a lot in there to wash away. A lot.

  156. Razey Avatar
    Razey

    A Suggestionsays:
    October 18, 2021 at 11:46 am
    rosie says:
    October 18, 2021 at 11:43 am
    Greyranga is a nasty man with no sense of humour, and unsurprisingly, an antivaxxer.
    Starting to notice a pattern.

    And you’re a frightened panicky woman with shrill voice. Starting to notice a pattern.

    Typical of Gen-X obese Karen vax-pushers in my experience.

  157. rickw Avatar
    rickw

    We are moving to Japan

    Lucky bastard, a country where government doesn’t fucking hate the populace.

  158. rosie Avatar
    rosie

    No dot.
    Astrazeneca is very cheap, even Australia is only paying $5 a dose.
    Monoclonal antibodies are around USD 2k and have to administered intravenously.
    And as I mentioned Allen West was on ivermectin hydroxychloroquine protocol.

  159. rosie Avatar
    rosie

    People saying Joe Rogan got better with ivermectin and leaving out his 2k worth of monoclonal antibodies…

  160. rickw Avatar
    rickw

    RickW

    Thanks. I’m still getting paid, but that could change any second, so I don’t think I need to front up to C/Link just yet.

    Gab the criteria is “unable to work”, I would be taking that pretty literally, doesn’t say anything about being paid eg. If you cannot work and are being forced to take leave.

  161. Roger Avatar
    Roger

    Went to shops this morning, was behind a Danistani at the lights. Number plate says Victoria – The Education State. It was painfully amusing. I thought of alternatives and decided Victoria – The Fascist State suited best.

    Used to be ‘Victoria – The Place To Be.’

    Used to see a lot of them in sunny QLD.

  162. Sancho Panzer Avatar
    Sancho Panzer

    Bruce of Newcastlesays:

    October 18, 2021 at 11:33 am

    JC – Go soak you head. I was quoting Indolent. Only you could be thick enough not to realize that.

    Please tell me it wasn’t the one about “aluminum carbon life forms” and airport scanners.

  163. A Suggestion Avatar
    A Suggestion

    And as I mentioned Allen West was on ivermectin hydroxychloroquine protocol.

    Yes and Uttar Pradesh was on Ivermectin and crushed the pandemic within 2 weeks of the start of the therapy. My ~350 million people sample TRUMPS your single sample. QED.

  164. rosie Avatar
    rosie

    Thanks for proving my point razey.

    Unlike you I’ve clearly been living my life, vaccine or no vaccine.
    If you’d clicked on the qld link you’d have seen a photo of Kevin Rudd, nothing to do with covid.
    You all are frothing at the mouth because thanks to Gladys and Dom Perrottet, this is the beginning of the end of the great covid the ccp are taking over reset panic of 20/21

  165. rosie Avatar
    rosie

    Lol.
    Single examples have been perfectly acceptable on the cat for many months, why change now?
    Incidentally utter pradesh have rolled out many millions of covid vaccines, seems like they don’t actually put any great trust in ivermectin after all.

  166. dover0beach Avatar

    Gab, I took wallet and passport, seemed to go pretty smoothly, now need to get back home and do some online stuff.

    Go and get they payments, it’s akin to putting the Federal Government’s balls in a vice for being complete Mongs.

    Can you get the COVID payment while on paid leave?

  167. A Suggestion Avatar
    A Suggestion

    rosie says:
    October 18, 2021 at 11:58 am
    Lol.
    Single examples have been perfectly acceptable on the cat for many months, why change now?
    Incidentally utter pradesh have rolled out many millions of covid vaccines, seems like they don’t actually put any great trust in ivermectin after all.

    What logic. Utter Pradesh used Ivermectin to crush the China Virus. That they also allowed the JAB is apparently proof that Ivermectin does not work. I note, that several countries are now banning the JAB in favour of proven therapies. Your schtick is getting more shrill. It is now known that the JABs only protect for 2-3 months. It is now known that the JABs do pretty much nothing – just as Arky said they would. It is known that the drug pushers are developing anti-virals based on Ivermectin and Hydroxychloroquine to replace the failed JABs.
    And you’re still shrilly pushing for the JABs. You are panicking. Calm down, take a BEX.

  168. rickw Avatar
    rickw

    Gab the criteria is “unable to work”

    Forget it Gab, when you go through the detail, very narrow criteria. No luck.

  169. Zipster Avatar
    Zipster

    China says new hypersonic missile a blow to US ‘strategic superiority’
    “It is important to note the unstoppable trend that China is narrowing the gap with the US in some key military technologies as China is continuously developing its economic and technological strength. China doesn’t need to engage in an ‘arms race’ with the US – it is capable of weakening the US’ overall advantages over China by developing military power at its own pace,” the editorial said.?

  170. rickw Avatar
    rickw

    Can you get the COVID payment while on paid leave?

    It’s all linked to outbreaks, no linkage to being stood down/unable to work.

    So the answer is no.

  171. dover0beach Avatar

    From Rosie’s fact check link:

    The article didn’t provide any evidence supporting a causal link between the use of Ivermectin and the sharp decline of COVID-19 cases in Uttar Pradesh other than regional government recommendation. Many other factors, including immunity from previous infection, vaccination, and lockdowns, likely helped reduce the number of cases. Public health authorities, including the Indian Council of Medical Research, currently don’t recommend Ivermectin as a COVID-19 treatment due to the lack of evidence supporting its use.

    Does the factcheck provide any evidence indicating a causal link between those ‘other factors’ and the sharp decline? None that I see. And what is the point of its reference to the ICMR? It’s an appeal to authority and question-begging.

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