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 Venus and Cupid, Diego Velázquez, 1651

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miltonf
miltonf
October 20, 2021 12:16 pm

The Chinese and the Russians must be laughing their heads off.

jupes
jupes
October 20, 2021 12:19 pm

Then the US took over Britain’s rôle. Now they have admiral Rachel.

Fuck. Me. Dead. Did you get a look at that freak?

So much for the anglosphere. We’re gone.

Indeed we are Beaugy.

A Suggestion
A Suggestion
October 20, 2021 12:21 pm

The Chinese and the Russians must be laughing their heads off.

The Russians started the West down this road via their infiltration and corruption of our organisations. The Chinese have taken over from the Russians and have accelerated the decline.
We are/have been at war with these malignant entities for over 50 years. No one in the West wanted to fight back, because that would entail loosing some “rights”.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 20, 2021 12:22 pm

Lord I wish I could name these animals, but I’m sure you get the gist of who they are.

Yes.
One in particular was particularly noisy with threatening litigation, and egging others on to do so.
Made very similar noises on Discord about “big things about to happen” as soon as he “receives his last piece of advice confirming it”.
That was eight weeks ago.
I reckon he either wanted quick “go away” money or some sort of control over Sinc’s blog.
Fat chance on both counts.

That Jo
That Jo
October 20, 2021 12:23 pm

rosiesays:
October 20, 2021 at 12:02 pm
Rorschach link

Wow, looks like I was right, I really do not need the Forced Vaxx. Now I just need to let Dear Dan know…

miltonf
miltonf
October 20, 2021 12:24 pm

Well Allen Ginsberg did say ‘we’ll get you through your children’.

A Suggestion
A Suggestion
October 20, 2021 12:25 pm

This blathering about litigation on old Sinc’s blog is relevant to what precisely?
Have you two numpties had enough of cluttering the thread with your private conversation?

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
October 20, 2021 12:29 pm

MatrixTransformsays:
October 20, 2021 at 11:10 am
can anybody get the full test of this??

https://www.afr.com/technology/terrible-mistake-could-send-execs-to-jail-over-vaccine-certificates-20211015-p590am

Posted on our companies advice yesterday.

Need to scrub the identifying number if they are to be held.
Yes it is a massive privacy breach.
But dont worry, it could never happen once we have the seamless new digital ID system in place…
Seemed extremely confident government would write up some sort of “goof faith” exemption for the bolloxup though.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 20, 2021 12:29 pm

‘This blathering about litigation on old Sinc’s blog is relevant to what precisely?’

Capitalism. And potential oligarchs with paddocks full of underground assault rifles.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
October 20, 2021 12:32 pm

Come to think of it, no one every really explained why the English speaking world got involved in WWI.

Complicated little webs of mutual defence and cooperation treaties between UK, France and Russia and Italy Vs. Austro-Hungarian, German and Ottoman arrangements. All 6 players had political and economic interests in the (nominally Austro-Hungarian ruled) Balkans. Whose peoples in turn, had agendas of their own.

And Albania ruined everything. Gavrilo Princip thought he’d strike a blow against the Austro-Hungarian empire. And subsequently provoked a world war.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 20, 2021 12:35 pm

Closed border. 49,000 international visitors.

Yeah.
Things that make you go “hmmmm”.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 20, 2021 12:38 pm

Have you two numpties had enough of cluttering the thread with your private conversation?

No.
Fuck off.
Anyway, JC, do you think it was about a quick “Slips, Trips and Falls” payday, or getting control of the blog.
BTW, it is relevant because Dover will inevitably cop the same shit, if he hasn’t already.

lotocoti
lotocoti
October 20, 2021 12:41 pm

Now they have admiral Rachel.

Nothing to do with the USN.
Pretty sure USS Ludakris wouldn’t have to run up a four stars’ flag if he dropped in to do prostate checks.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
October 20, 2021 12:43 pm

Complicated little webs of mutual defence and cooperation treaties between UK, France and Russia and Italy Vs. Austro-Hungarian, German and Ottoman arrangements.

And these were all grrat when it was all just sabre-rattling and court intrigue. Then a wounded and kingless Austria-Hungary decided some lessons needed learning, and Germany saw an opportunity to kick at France and Russia, and reorder the list of regional dominance in the process.

And in truth? Nobody really wanted to back away too hard. Though everyone knew that a complicated and terrible mess was in the offing.

It is not quite an example of the classical Thucydidean Trap, but a lot of egos and agendas needing satisfaction.

The multi-sided slide to (at minimum an Eastern Pacific regional) war with Russia, China, Western Europe and the Anglophone countries and China’s Asian neighbours at each end of the square is a remarkably close mirror.

Nobody really wants it when prodded hard enough (China will cop a revolution or social collapse sooner or later, regardless of whether or not it ‘wins’ and occupies Tawian), but there are too many agendas, intrigues and egos involved to allow everyone to steer away from the brink without loss of life or position.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
October 20, 2021 12:46 pm

The Russians started the West down this road via their infiltration and corruption of our organisations. The Chinese have taken over from the Russians and have accelerated the decline.

I still maintain the old USSR was on a winning tactic in their war with the West, but their own system was too shit to last long enough to reap the rewards.

Cassie of Sydney
October 20, 2021 12:47 pm

From The Daily Telegraph…I love it when chickens come home to roost.

“Michael Slater arrested after alleged domestic violence incident:

Australian cricket great Michael Slater was arrested on Sydney’s Northern Beaches this morning after an alleged domestic violence incident.

Australian cricket great Michael Slater has been arrested today after an alleged domestic violence incident.

The 51-year-old was taken into custody at a Manly home on Sydney’s Northern Beaches this morning. No charges have been laid.

“Officers attached to the Eastern Suburbs Police Area Command commenced an investigation yesterday after receiving reports of a domestic violence incident alleged to have occurred on Tuesday 12 October 2021,’’ a NSW Police said in a statement.

“Following inquiries, detectives attended a home at Manly about 9.20am and spoke with a 51-year-old man. He has since been arrested and taken to Manly Police Station.”

Slater recently lost his job as a commentator at Channel 7 after he publicly attacked Scott Morrison on Twitter over not doing enough to get Australians home during the pandemic.”

Gab
Gab
October 20, 2021 12:56 pm

Matrix

Try this link to that AFR article.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
October 20, 2021 1:01 pm

Boor reccomendations please..

Have added dreadnought to the list, any other SF or history worthwhile.

lotocoti
lotocoti
October 20, 2021 1:01 pm

Complicated little webs of mutual defence and cooperation treaties…

IIRC, at the turn of the century, the Royal Navy planned to fight either France or Germany, they didn’t particularly care, either way.
Whereas the Army and the Home Office preferred an alliance with whomever would’ve been the most inconvenient enemy in a war.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
October 20, 2021 1:01 pm

Book… FFS…

Brian
Brian
October 20, 2021 1:07 pm

Regarding
“Covid-19 is a plandemic. Check it for yourself
This is from Canada. Not easy to explain away.

I tried to replicate his result, but couldn’t.
Is he a bs artist, or did Canada’s gov quickly remove the “offending” page? Not sure.””

I replicated it last night, but it is gone today.
I as puzzled why grenades and tear gas would be associated with Cov until I realised it was smoke grenades and was for riot control!! Still, the date could have simply been a typo – but very weird.
Even if the date was a typo – ordering grenades and tear gas because of Cov implies some idea of what was going to be going down.

twostix
twostix
October 20, 2021 1:07 pm

Many people fled to QLD over the last 12 months and are just hanging around. Holiday accommodation outside of this surfers and cairns is expensive and booked, rentals are going through the roof, every tourist place you go is packed with boomers and qlders.

Lots of fake ‘australians’ flittering back and forth into and out of the country too staying somewhere.

It’s not quite as dire as the Surfers / Cairns based international dollar chinga-loving tourism ‘industry’ says it is.

shatterzzz
October 20, 2021 1:07 pm

Smarter than your average plod … LOL!
https://t.me/Nuclear_Memes/4815

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 20, 2021 1:07 pm

Complicated little webs of mutual defence and cooperation treaties between UK, France and Russia and Italy Vs. Austro-Hungarian, German and Ottoman arrangements.

A tragic variation on some cocky bastard strutting around the front bar of a country pub (you know who you are) on a Saturday night insisting on “one in – all in”.

Winston Smith
October 20, 2021 1:12 pm

Feelthebern:

If the FDA approves mixing & matching of booster shots, won’t this make the data deliberately unusable?

Curses – Foiled again!

twostix
twostix
October 20, 2021 1:12 pm

Also SE QLD quite seems to loathe surfers ‘paradise’ and the gold coast ‘tourism’ thing these days and have run a sustained campaign to turn it into an family friendly borefest. AKA an ordinary boring Australian coastal regional city. But unlike NSW beaches, Newcastle say, it has average ‘beaches’ (that one long beach) that are shit to swim at and drown the tourists regularly. So they’re in bigger trouble than they know, really.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 20, 2021 1:12 pm

Oh yea. He often mentioned that. Ironically the worst complaint offenders were the most abusive with racist comments directed at individuals and the regular pile on offenders.

I was asked to lay off mentioning someone rooting a sex worker in SE Asia due to threats of “action”.
I did, but I’m not sure what action could be taken for mentioning what someone wrote in their own damn book.

Rorschach
Rorschach
October 20, 2021 1:14 pm

FECA BULLETIN NO. 22-01 October 1, 2021

Subject: Coverage for Injuries Resulting from the COVID-19 Vaccination Mandate for Federal Employees.

https://www.dol.gov/agencies/owcp/FECA/regs/compliance/DFECfolio/FECABulletins/FY2020-2024

… this executive order now makes COVID-19 vaccination a requirement of most Federal employment. As such, employees impacted by this mandate who receive required COVID-19 vaccinations on or after the date of the executive order may be afforded coverage under the FECA for any adverse reactions to the vaccine itself, and for any injuries sustained while obtaining the vaccination.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 20, 2021 1:15 pm

Cassie of Sydneysays:

October 20, 2021 at 12:47 pm

From The Daily Telegraph…I love it when chickens come home to roost.

“Michael Slater arrested after alleged domestic violence incident:

Following the Andrew O’Keefe playbook to the letter.

Slater recently lost his job as a commentator at Channel 7 after he publicly attacked Scott Morrison on Twitter over not doing enough to get Australians home during the pandemic.”

Ah, not quite.
Slater pissed off to India to commentate on the IPL in the middle of this shit-show. Rolled the dice and, when that went pear-shaped, he was “trapped” in a resort in the Maldives (cry me a fucking river) and tried to publicly pressure ScoMo into a bit of queue jumping.
I reckon Channel Seven have been looking to rissole him for a while.
If you aren’t Richie Benaud, ex-cricketers doing run of the mill “expert commentary” are like weather girls.
Not many last into their forties.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 20, 2021 1:15 pm

Re Latham’s tweet re vehicle tracking in NSW.
It appears to be the same backfilling exercise re the “trusted digital identity” legislation the federales are trying on.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
October 20, 2021 1:22 pm

But unlike NSW beaches, Newcastle say, it has average ‘beaches’ (that one long beach) that are shit to swim at and drown the tourists regularly.

Hang on a minute- That’s Australian beaches in general.

The only extra spiciness you get is the lethal klingon-cloaking-device-equipped micro-jellyfish further north, the hungry sharks to the west and the Chinese Submarines hiding in the cold waters of our more southerly ones…

rickw
rickw
October 20, 2021 1:25 pm

One of the few sane politicians in Australia:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToBJYDQUoS8

JC
JC
October 20, 2021 1:25 pm

Sanchez

I suspect it was just a team of coalescing of losers who liked each other’s views. From what I could tell though there was a concerted effort to complain about people in order to push them off the site. The worst offenders had exchanged email addresses through Sinclair and it was uncanny how some turned up at the appropriate time to join a pile on. There were and there still are some disgusting weasels hanging around.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 20, 2021 1:25 pm

But unlike NSW beaches, Newcastle say, it has average ‘beaches’ (that one long beach) that are shit to swim at and drown the tourists regularly.

Mid north coast of NSW has the best beaches in Oz.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
October 20, 2021 1:26 pm

Well Im sure this will be a riveting read… for someone else..

Byzantine Intersectionality : Sexuality, Gender, and Race in the Middle Ages

JC
JC
October 20, 2021 1:27 pm

Suggestion , stick to proclaiming the superiority of communism as it’s attractive to winners like you. You’re like poor man’s Antifa around here though. And fuck off. You don’t direct any traffic .

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 20, 2021 1:30 pm

As long as you don’t mind the goat track road & the boardwalk hike, the best beach in Oz in Cellito/Sandbar.
Nothing better than a dip after a cheeky nine holes next door.

Arky
October 20, 2021 1:32 pm

Watching that David Chappelle special.
It’s all LGMGBGT, race, trans, etc.
So boring.
Crude and boring.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 20, 2021 1:34 pm

‘bern.
From what I understand, Sinc thought most of the legal threats were try-ons from flat-brokr pensioner grifters looking for a quick $5-$10k.
It seems their favourite target was those who projected an image of high net worth (eg majority BHP shareholders).
Whilst he agreed they were laughable try-ons, I think he just got sick of the incessant whining from time to time.

Arky
October 20, 2021 1:35 pm

And make up your mind.
If you don’t like the word “n*gga”, and don’t want US using it, then start by not using it yourselves.
Idiots.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
October 20, 2021 1:35 pm

Chief Health Officer Jeannette Young said going forward, authorities would still need to isolate people who test positive to COVID-19.

“There’ll be nothing different there,” she said.

“Except if they’re fully vaccinated, we know that they’ll get much milder disease so they’ll probably be able to do that at home rather than in one of our hospitals.

“We’ll assess the home, we’ll assess the other people in that home and what the risks are, and they’ll probably be able to be managed in one of our virtual wards to make sure that they’re okay.

Looking forward to all the assessing and risk management and case management in one of the ‘virtual wards’.

At the end of “everyone getting it” there won’t be a single Queensland bedroom that hasn’t been peered into by our moist and lovely GG.
It’s the Future.

MatrixTransform
October 20, 2021 1:37 pm

why-is-data-about-deaths-being-held-back?

Jack Nicholson says, “You can’t HANDLE the data!”

Pogria
Pogria
October 20, 2021 1:41 pm

Watching Omega Man right now. The good one, not the Will Smith “I am Legend”, crapfest.

When the man-made plague was screaming ’round the world, the citizens were told to “stay indoors, do not leave your homes or you WILL BE SUMMARILY EXECUTED”.

Reckon our National Cabinet of Wankers would love to have used that treatment on us. So close.

Eyrie
Eyrie
October 20, 2021 1:43 pm

why-is-data-about-deaths-being-held-back?

They are hiding the bodies. All the Covid stats etc can and are being obfuscated but dead bodies is what counts. Obviously this data is embarrassing so they don’t release it.

Muddy
Muddy
October 20, 2021 1:43 pm

AdamCat has new posts up. Please consider visiting.

Diogenes
Diogenes
October 20, 2021 1:45 pm

Holiday accommodation outside of this surfers and cairns is expensive and booked, rentals are going through the roof

We just went and saw our accommodation provider here on the Sunshine Coast to pay for our next place and our options for January, so far they have not seen an uptick in bookings and Xmas/New Year week excepted we can almost have our choice of holiday units for all of January and February.

Gab
Gab
October 20, 2021 1:47 pm

The Currency Lad has new posts up.Consider visiting and commenting.

jupes
jupes
October 20, 2021 1:47 pm

Except if they’re fully vaccinated, we know that they’ll get much milder disease

That is a lie. They know nothing of the sort. Fully vacinated people die of Covid.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
October 20, 2021 1:47 pm

[Surfers] …has average ‘beaches’ (that one long beach) that are shit to swim at and drown the tourists regularly.

Mostly non-swimming tourists, who decide to learn at 10:30pm after a skinful of piss.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 20, 2021 1:49 pm

Tom, sportsbet has just paid out on all Incentivise bets for the Melbourne Cup.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 20, 2021 1:50 pm

excepted we can almost have our choice of holiday units for all of January and February.

That doesn’t scream “chockers” to me.
Either way, I am not touching Queensland in the current situation.
Why live 50 weeks a year under one megalomaniac, and then swap the last two weeks for a state run by a sociopath.
I’ll take Frank Bananarama’s Fiji thanks.

Gab
Gab
October 20, 2021 1:50 pm

Fully vacinated people die of Covid.

And some of them die because of the vax.

Report to date of Oct 6 from TGA site:

Number of reports (cases): 66016

Number of cases with a single suspected medicine: 64994

Number of cases where death was a reported outcome: 586

areff
areff
October 20, 2021 1:51 pm

Faustus: Just watched Woodthorpe’s press club address. Dear Lord, send us some reporters who do more than take stenography. She’s the perfect trough-snouter, and with the obligatory record of dismal failure. Consider: she was head of the Bushfires CRC when it was taken over by ‘scientists’ who believe that, if you don’t do prophylactic burning, the forest debris will rot from the bottom at the same rate it accumulates on top, meaning fuel loads reach and maintain a state of moist, dynamic equilibrium. Presto, no more bushfires.

Except, with academics of little hands-on forest experience imposing their non-burning regime on the bush, we ended up with the most recent megablazes. You’d think a PhD would understand that more fuel equals bigger fire.

The rest of her address was more of the same: State science knows best always, whether it be climate change, COVID or nanowrigglers.

Press Club will have her transcript up soonish. If you ever need an emetic, recommended reading.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
October 20, 2021 1:51 pm

If you aren’t Richie Benaud, ex-cricketers doing run of the mill “expert commentary” are like weather girls.
Not many last into their forties.

Not heard much from Richie over the past few years. Disappointing if he’s another one who’s buggered off for the Rupee.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 20, 2021 1:53 pm

Not heard much from Richie over the past few years. 

I think he eloped to Majorca with Roger Moore.

P
P
October 20, 2021 1:59 pm

AP tells us of the amazing foresightedness of Dr Young:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIDFw6Dv5U4&t=1207s

John of Mel
John of Mel
October 20, 2021 2:02 pm

Frequent flyers burn through 2 billion points ahead of border opening

People who sold their birthright for the bowl of soup.

struth
struth
October 20, 2021 2:07 pm

Jeanette Young basically just announced sending the unjabbed to Toowoomba

JC
JC
October 20, 2021 2:07 pm

They are hiding the bodies. All the Covid stats etc can and are being obfuscated but dead bodies is what counts. Obviously this data is embarrassing so they don’t release it.

Oh yes, they’re hiding the bodies…in mass fucking graves in NYC.

My kid lives in the vicinity of one the big hospitals and saw body bags being carted out daily.

You clown, faulty2

Let me know if this isn’t enough. I’ll get the one from Italy and the UK too.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52241221.amp

You should not be posting deranged bullshit here, dickhead.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 20, 2021 2:09 pm

Michael Malice
@michaelmalice
Im watching Joe Rogan do stand-up and Alex Jones just leaned over to tell me that I am Jesus and some of you still doubt that we live in a simulation

calli
calli
October 20, 2021 2:10 pm

Frequent flyers burn through 2 billion points ahead of border opening
People who sold their birthright for the bowl of soup.

Possibly. I might even be one of them. A trip a year away. If you don’t book the seats, you don’t get to go.

I fully expect not to go, as we haven’t got to the plague of burning hailstones or the frogs yet. We’ll all be kept under lock and key for a while yet.

To keep us safe.

Winston Smith
October 20, 2021 2:16 pm

JC:

Oh yea. He often mentioned that. Ironically the worst complaint offenders were the most abusive with racist comments directed at individuals and the regular pile on offenders. The posse and pile on offenders there were the most diabolical scum the good lord ever conceived.

JC, you really are blind to your own excesses, aren’t you?
Tell you what – I’ll raise the bet to $2 just to help with your hurt feelings.
Don’t thank me, I’d do it for nearly anyone.

MatrixTransform
October 20, 2021 2:19 pm

that AFR article.

+11 thanks

Rorschach
Rorschach
October 20, 2021 2:21 pm
Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
October 20, 2021 2:31 pm

The rest of her address was more of the same: State science knows best always, whether it be climate change, COVID or nanowrigglers.

My current curse is water: a huge challenge when the nanowrigglers have set into the State scientists.

But I’ll strap on my bondage gear, tighten my cilice, light a candle and read from Woodthorpe.

Winston Smith
October 20, 2021 2:34 pm

Rosie:
Thanks for the stats.
Go to Section 5, Table 8. Page 12:
25,828 are – essentially – removed from the vaccination total because defined out.
92.7% of the total not counted.

struth
struth
October 20, 2021 2:35 pm

Cardimona
Having weakened the immune systems of millions of people around the world with the dodgy covid vaxxes, the next step for the globalists is to release a genuinely deadly virus. I do believe it has already been released in India and it will hit our news cycle soon. Woz, Parramatta Park

Funny how common Bell’s Palsy has become since the covid vax came out. But it’s not the vax – the vax is 100 percent safe and effective, right? Davos Dave, Cairns

The covid epidemic is over in Japan. Their govt gave everyone the 1980s drug that cures covid that no Australian media outlet is allowed to name. Ivor MacTinn, Cairns

Exactly right, Fisho (20/10). Seas have not risen after decades of global warming and annual death rates haven’t risen due to covid. Both are left wing agitprop and our political and public service types are either too stupid to realise that or they’re the enemies of our nation. Hannah, Mareeba

I used to think only 10% of us were truly gullible, because that’s how many Greens voters there are. Now I’m shocked to realise the gullible number close to 60%, and that’s about as many vaxxed as AnaSStacia is going to get. Axel, Yorkeys Knob

There’s two types of covid pushers – the grifters and the gullible. The grifters sense opportunity to gain money and/or power. The gullible do as they’re told and enjoy the thrill of the fear campaign. Those of us who have gotten poorer and less powerful and who can smell bull***t a mile off are getting very very angry. Grifters won’t like us when we’re really angry. Big Green Guy, Cairns

Rick (CP, 20/10). The govt has no legal right to force me into the jab. The govt is who has closed borders and turned you against me. You, sir, are what Joseph Stalin would fondly have called a “useful idiot.” Chloe, Kuranda

The links between Covid-19, Bill Gates, Tony Fauci, the Wuhan lab, and the vaccines are becoming increasingly public, with material from the US Patents Office providing evidence. Gates is on the record in a TED talk advocating for population reduction via vaccination. Evil is ascendant in this world and most of us are too comfortably numb to even notice. Ruth, Smithfield

Tony Rocco (20/10). You wouldn’t have needed to be that sick or get all the expensive (and therefore profitable) treatments had our charming federal government allowed you to have the cure, as the governments of Argentina, Brazil, Bulgaria, Colombia, Czech Republic, Egypt, Germany, India, Indonesia, Japan, Lebanon, North Macedonia, Panama, Paraguay, Portugal, Slovakia, South Africa, Thailand, Florida-USA, and Ukraine have. Tourist, Cairns

Yeah, “Freedom Day.” That’s the day we’re allowed out of our small cages into a bigger cage. Remove all covid restrictions now. Aussies are sick of “democratic” fascism. Trev, Edge Hill.

OK, now that AIMS has announced the GBR has the most coral cover ever, can we please stop funding the serial spongers at all these reef research places who were all completely wrong about the imminent demise of the reef? Bucket, Westcourt

Rick of Redlynch (CP, 20/10). I reckon if you’d lived in Germany in 1939 you’d have been one of those friendly types who dobbed in his Jewish neighbours so the Nazis would come and drag them off into the night. Efrayim, Earlville

Look, just putting it out there, but once you know carbon dioxide doesn’t influence climate you understand that Barnaby Joyce is actually the smartest man in the Canberra political bubble. Jennifer, Edge Hill

Another day another cringeworthy newspaper. God, I wish we had a newspaper for people who aren’t easily sucked in by government propaganda. Helen, Cooktown

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 20, 2021 2:53 pm

The mailman’s camels have just delivered a parcel of books.

I’ve opened one to discover that “(The publisher) acknowledges the traditional custodians of country throughout Australia and their connections to lands water and communities. We pay our respect to Elders past and present. We honor more than sixty thousand years of storytelling, art and culture…”

F.M.S.

Zipster
Zipster
October 20, 2021 2:55 pm

“The Bidens”: Is the First Family Corrupt, or Merely Crazy?

You would have to go to china, russia or the 3rd world to find greater levels of corruption.

Zipster
Zipster
October 20, 2021 2:58 pm

Jeanette Young basically just announced sending the unjabbed to Toowoomba

concentration camp don’t just fill themselves you know….

Zipster
Zipster
October 20, 2021 2:59 pm

“(The publisher) acknowledges the traditional custodians of country throughout Australia and their connections to lands water and communities. We pay our respect to Elders past and present. We honor more than sixty thousand years of storytelling, art and culture…”

the critical race theory version of public harakiri

cohenite
October 20, 2021 3:02 pm

You would have to go to china, russia or the 3rd world to find greater levels of corruption.

Nah, joe takes the cake, along with the clintons and basically every other demorat and a large number of RINOs. They do so because the gap between the nominal freedom and standards of the West and what these traitors are doing is so large. In the other nations you have no expectation of honestly by leaders and there is no gap between expectations and reality.

Winston Smith
October 20, 2021 3:02 pm

Interesting video from Fox News about the Chinese Hypersonic missile test.

cohenite
October 20, 2021 3:04 pm

We honor more than sixty thousand years of storytelling, art and culture…”

47000 years of barbarism, environmental destruction and no achievements at all.

Winston Smith
October 20, 2021 3:17 pm

Gab:
via your link to CLs site:
A bit of an eye opener as to the distortion of our media – once the bulwark of our democratic freedoms – now refashioned into the club of submission.

Winston Smith
October 20, 2021 3:21 pm

Jupes:

Except if they’re fully vaccinated, we know that they’ll get much milder disease

That is a lie. They know nothing of the sort. Fully vacinated people die of Covid.

But they die more photogenically. It must count for something.
🙂

twostix
twostix
October 20, 2021 3:24 pm

From notafan’s own-goal:
NSW Case Fatality Rate:

0-9 0 0%
10-19 1 <1%
20-29 5 <1%
30-39 8 <1%
40-49 17 <1%
50-59 39 1%
60-69 62 2%
70-79 84 6%
80-89 116 15%
90+ 40 22%

Pandemic of the boomers.

I think I’ll take my chances.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 20, 2021 3:33 pm

‘Michael Slater arrested after alleged domestic violence incident:’

Ms Spicer?

Tray-ceeeeeeeeeeee? Trace? Babe?

Wasn’t this sort of thing right up your alley?

twostix
twostix
October 20, 2021 3:36 pm

It’s fair to say that the vaccine has a brief death reducing effect somewhere around 30-50% (relative risk) (< 1% absolute).

It wears off rapidly (starting at three – six months) and doesn't prevent transmission or symptoms and won't last against mutations. A truly shitty over-sold, under-delivering product and technology with many as-yet unknown side effects. There's also the problem of it putting upwards pressure on the virus to mutate into more powerful strains.

And as you see from the NSW stats above, you’re only going to die if you’re old or extremely sick already.

If it wasn’t clown universe, it would have been limited to very old and sick people who would add it to their regime of dodgy drugs they take to stay alive another day, and normal people would all be free and this all forgotten about 12 months ago.

But clearly there’s much something more going on than medicine and ‘health’, so now 1 year olds (0% CFR) have to have it too or they get cutoff from breastfeeding by order of the CHO of the NT, or something something.

Winston Smith
October 20, 2021 3:38 pm

Areff:

Consider: she was head of the Bushfires CRC when it was taken over by ‘scientists’ who believe that, if you don’t do prophylactic burning, the forest debris will rot from the bottom at the same rate it accumulates on top, meaning fuel loads reach and maintain a state of moist, dynamic equilibrium. Presto, no more bushfires.

Not capable of understanding that the heat generated by the fire is capable of boiling off the wet rotting debris underneath it and making it slow burn so the heat is able to continue into the soil.
No wonder we’re losing the will to live…

twostix
twostix
October 20, 2021 3:39 pm

Sarah Palin’s death panels?
Hospitalisations by age:

90+ 118

ICU by age

90+ 0 0%

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
October 20, 2021 3:39 pm

Mandatory vaccination to be introduced for most WA workers, Mark McGowan says

Workers in Group 1

high transmission risk, a vulnerability risk or critical to the safety of the community — fully vaccinated by the end of the year.

That’s transport, health, police etc.

Workers in Group 2

critical to the ongoing delivery of business and the function of the community – fully vaccinated by January 31, 2022.

That’s retail, schools, public transport, construction etc .

The final group – no date, but must be double jabbed if they want to work during lockdowns:

bottle shop staff, pet stores, roadside assistance, critical forestry, critical primary industries, critical factories, manufacturing, fabrication and production, government or local government services, vehicle and mechanical repair service

…and members and staff at the Parliament of Western Australia.

A category insult to bottle shop staff.

Indolent
Indolent
October 20, 2021 3:40 pm

How to Take Over the World

Cartoon from the 1930s. Talk about preplanning.

Winston Smith
October 20, 2021 3:40 pm

Dover0Beach:

I thought the TGA just rubberstamped FDA advice. We know the former are not privy to the data so on what grounds was this approval back in Sept made?

That’s an awkward question to answer, DB.
A smack on the wrist for you, young feller.

twostix
twostix
October 20, 2021 3:44 pm

According to the NSW stats Notafan posted, if you’re over 90 years old you have an 78% chance of surviving Covid19.

I mean….come on.

Zipster
Zipster
October 20, 2021 3:45 pm

Increases in COVID-19 are unrelated to levels of vaccination across 68 countries and 2947 counties in the United States
Vaccines currently are the primary mitigation strategy to combat COVID-19 around the world. For instance, the narrative related to the ongoing surge of new cases in the United States (US) is argued to be driven by areas with low vaccination rates [1]. A similar narrative also has been observed in countries, such as Germany and the United Kingdom [2]. At the same time, Israel that was hailed for its swift and high rates of vaccination has also seen a substantial resurgence in COVID-19 cases [3]. We investigate the relationship between the percentage of population fully vaccinated and new COVID-19 cases across 68 countries and across 2947 counties in the US.

Interpretation
The sole reliance on vaccination as a primary strategy to mitigate COVID-19 and its adverse consequences needs to be re-examined, especially considering the Delta (B.1.617.2) variant and the likelihood of future variants. Other pharmacological and non-pharmacological interventions may need to be put in place alongside increasing vaccination rates. Such course correction, especially with regards to the policy narrative, becomes paramount with emerging scientific evidence on real world effectiveness of the vaccines.

For instance, in a report released from the Ministry of Health in Israel, the effectiveness of 2 doses of the BNT162b2 (Pfizer-BioNTech) vaccine against preventing COVID-19 infection was reported to be 39% [6], substantially lower than the trial efficacy of 96% [7]. It is also emerging that immunity derived from the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine may not be as strong as immunity acquired through recovery from the COVID-19 virus [8]. A substantial decline in immunity from mRNA vaccines 6-months post immunization has also been reported [9]. Even though vaccinations offers protection to individuals against severe hospitalization and death, the CDC reported an increase from 0.01 to 9% and 0 to 15.1% (between January to May 2021) in the rates of hospitalizations and deaths, respectively, amongst the fully vaccinated [10].

In summary, even as efforts should be made to encourage populations to get vaccinated it should be done so with humility and respect. Stigmatizing populations can do more harm than good. Importantly, other non-pharmacological prevention efforts (e.g., the importance of basic public health hygiene with regards to maintaining safe distance or handwashing, promoting better frequent and cheaper forms of testing) needs to be renewed in order to strike the balance of learning to live with COVID-19 in the same manner we continue to live a 100 years later with various seasonal alterations of the 1918 Influenza virus.

twostix
twostix
October 20, 2021 3:46 pm

Also check this little tidbit out:

“The majority of deaths following recent locally acquired COVID-19 infection have occurred in hospital (327/372, 88%). Nine deaths in aged care facilities have been among people aged 70+, while 36 deaths occurring at home have been in a younger cohort aged 20-89, and 21 (58%) of the deaths at home were tested forensically for infection (following death).

I presume this is the ‘with’ vs ‘from’ thumb on the scale.

twostix
twostix
October 20, 2021 3:51 pm

So I think we can take it as a given that once a state reaches 60% vaccination, there’s some trigger in the action plan that says “60%: critical mass has been reached – floor it and smash the ‘hesitant’ with mandates for most sectors”.

shatterzzz
October 20, 2021 3:52 pm

The mailman’s camels have just delivered a parcel of books.
Thru sleet & snow .. etc, etc …. I received an, A4 sized, envelope from Germany yesterday ..
PRIORITY MAIL postmarked July 14 ……
quite happy tho as I thought, after all this time, I’d dun me dough!

Top Ender
Top Ender
October 20, 2021 3:54 pm

Zulu:

I’ve opened one to discover that “(The publisher) acknowledges the traditional custodians of country throughout Australia and their connections to lands water and communities.

Lotsa publishers now doing that Zulu, as a lot of education departments demand it to put the books into schools. The long slow march through the institutions is a reality….

Thefrollickingmole
Thefrollickingmole
October 20, 2021 3:59 pm

ABC science show.
Host and green loon talking about how solar and wind mean no nuclear should be built… ever.

And solar and wind are only 3cents per kWh…

Sounded like Bob “ burgle me bum down sport” Brown.
Robyn “50 metres” Williams the interviewer.

Top Ender
Top Ender
October 20, 2021 4:03 pm

So, reading between the lines gets you what:

Two members of the notorious Hamze family have been killed in a shocking daylight shooting in Sydney’s west this morning.

Police found 18-year-old Salim Hamze and his father Toufik Hamze, 64, slumped inside a ute at Osgood St near Woodville Rd at Guildford about 8.55am.

Roger
Roger
October 20, 2021 4:13 pm

“(The publisher) acknowledges the traditional custodians of country throughout Australia and their connections to lands water and communities.”

Would that be the traditional custodians who destroyed unique megafauna and bequethed us a fire prone landscape dominated by just three genera of trees?

Winston Smith
October 20, 2021 4:14 pm

Doc Faustus:

A category insult to bottle shop staff.

I think we need to designate a Texas Equivalent state in Australia and head there.
Within a year we should be able to gain a critical mass to vote the government out and put in our own.
Western Australia and Queensland look like being the best bet.
Although Tasmania does have some strategic advantages – bringing in compulsory gun ownership and military service for the vote comes to mind as a means of getting rid of the Greens.
🙂

Fair Shake
Fair Shake
October 20, 2021 4:16 pm

Would that be the traditional custodians who destroyed unique megafauna and bequethed us a fire prone landscape dominated by just three genera of trees?

Gold. That’s a keeper!

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
October 20, 2021 4:18 pm

Pandemic of the boomers.
[…]
According to the NSW stats Notafan posted, if you’re over 90 years old you have an 78% chance of surviving Covid19.

I mean….come on.

Well known in early 2020. And thoroughly discussed everywhere ever since.

But better late than never.

Fair Shake
Fair Shake
October 20, 2021 4:18 pm

Lord Dan Farquad has his ‘freedom day’ and the local Mainly Shit Media are lined up to report on the midnight openings. Except customer or staff on the way before midnight are liable for fines for breaking curfew. You could not make this shit up.

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 20, 2021 4:20 pm

We honor more than sixty thousand years of storytelling, art and culture…”

Including the Bradshaw paintings in the Kimberley region?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 20, 2021 4:21 pm

twostixsays:

October 20, 2021 at 3:44 pm

According to the NSW stats Notafan posted, if you’re over 90 years old you have an 78% chance of surviving Covid19.

Yes.
And if you could improve your chances from 60% to 78% by having the jab, what would you do?
Trust me on this.
When you’re sitting opposite a specialist who is giving you the “good news” that what you’ve got has a 90% survival rate at five years, that fleeting thought crosses your mind – “Well, some poor bugger has to be that one in ten. What if that’s me?”

Fair Shake
Fair Shake
October 20, 2021 4:23 pm

We honor more than sixty thousand years of storytelling, art and culture…”

I went out to Western Qld to have a look at some Aboriginal rock carvings. Hundreds of hand carved vaginas all over the rock walls. Must have been a busy 60k years out them ways. I wonder what they were thinking of when the carved these art works?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 20, 2021 4:24 pm

Well known in early 2020. And thoroughly discussed everywhere ever since.

Quite so Doc.
Generally accepted that this is a disease which carries off the old, chubby and/or infirm, with rare exceptions.
I don’t think anyone here has suggested otherwise.

Tom
Tom
October 20, 2021 4:24 pm

The Biden White House revolutionary committee has just nominated a lunatic who doesn’t believe in national borders to run Customs and Border Patrol. But shut up, Karen, and lower your expectations. Tucker Carlson Tonight.

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 20, 2021 4:25 pm

twostixsays:
October 20, 2021 at 3:44 pm
According to the NSW stats Notafan posted, if you’re over 90 years old you have an 78% chance of surviving Covid19.

And what was the pre-Kung Flu chance of surviving to 100?

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 20, 2021 4:27 pm

Interpretation
The sole reliance on vaccination as a primary strategy to mitigate COVID-19 and its adverse consequences needs to be re-examined, especially considering the Delta (B.1.617.2) variant

617? The Dam Busters variant?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 20, 2021 4:27 pm

Top Endersays:

October 20, 2021 at 4:03 pm

So, reading between the lines gets you what:

Two members of the notorious Hamze family have been killed in a shocking daylight shooting in Sydney’s west this morning.

Snort cackle.
My ears pricked up listening to the news earlier.
“Two men shot dead – yada, yada – one of the men was an innocent victim.”
Helloooo.
Only one?
What can you tell us about the other one.
(Quite apart from the implied statement about summary justice, Beirut style).

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
October 20, 2021 4:28 pm

And solar and wind are only 3cents per kWh…

Except when they’re not and gas/battery owners can gouge $15/kWh to keep the system up and the lights on.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 20, 2021 4:30 pm

And what was the pre-Kung Flu chance of surviving to 100?

The average age at death pre Kung Flu was something like 83.
The average age of death from Kung Flu is – ta-dah – hand me the envelope … 83!

Winston Smith
October 20, 2021 4:30 pm

Having some success with the Redwing Parrots Vs Flying Mice (Pigeons)
I strongly suspect one of the brothers of the male/female pair have found out where their siblings are getting tucker from and have turned up today and joined forces against the flying rats.
Plenty of squawking going on and a few feathers being lost.
I was using a squirt gun against the doves with a stack of red food dye in it.
The red speckled doves were being attacked by their mates for being different.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
October 20, 2021 4:33 pm

What day does the Greens culling start Winston? Wouldn’t want to miss that. Do we get a go at the liars and the sfl as well?

Gab
Gab
October 20, 2021 4:37 pm

Petition opened only a few hours ago.

Petition EN3411 – Condemn Public Policy Vaccination Program for ALL Australians

Petition Reason
Every Australian child, adult and the wider community are the Australian citizens who run this country. The politicians were elected to serve us to govern this country as a Free and United democracy.

Petition Request
We therefore ask the House to condemn the recent direction of public policy regarding vaccination and the public health officials scapegoating the unvaccinated as being responsible for disease outbreaks when vaccine failure provides a more plausible explanation. We want the vaccination program and the restrictions placed scrapped from Australia for all Australian Citizens, businesses and society. We are opposed to the human rights ‘dialogue’ model being promoted by the government and its official which amounts to coercion, bullying, fear, bribes and corruption. We want the COVID-19 pandemic state of emergency lifted now. We all say no to the restrictions placed upon us, the police brutality and brute force placed upon our human rights. We demand the resignation of all state premiers, the prime minister and our government. We ask for an immediate enquiry into the legislative overreach of force used by government officials as directives, and the definitions of such in Australian law that are placed on Police and our Constitutional Army to undertake. investigate immediately the ruling of governance on peaceful citizens to shoot them with rubber bullets and unlawful force as a crime against humanity. We need our rights of free speech to debate this topic as it’s time reference is unreasonable to the length of these restrictions have been placed. No more silence or harassment.

Closing date for signatures: 17 November 2021 11:59 PM (AEST) (29 days left)

https://www.aph.gov.au/e-petitions/petition/EN3411?fbclid=IwAR3JM2bpnH2wICJxiJUsmftuKmvKL4gd-3xfjD7783glbPDu_5p1bvHhvDg

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
October 20, 2021 4:40 pm

The mongs who have allowed this disgrace to happen (assuming its reporting is right) are the same mongs who have spent the best part of the last decade having a case of the sads that some members of the special forces were killing the enemy.

Shocking betrayal of brave Afghan interpreter who worked with Aussie troops as he’s EXECUTED and his family left in ‘extreme danger’ – as the extraordinary reason he was left stranded is revealed
Afghan army officer who worked with Australian forces has been executed
Interpreter and family had desperately been attempting to secure visa to Aus

The father had been desperately trying to secure a humanitarian visa for himself and his family since the Taliban’s recapture of Afghanistan after the withdrawal of US troops in August. They had missed the first round of evacuations because they had not been told by Australian authorities they were eligible.

But his sister, who lives in Australia, has revealed through the family’s lawyer on Wednesday her brother was recently executed.
Family’s lawyer revealed to ABC on Wednesday that Taliban had executed him
The family are still in hiding and in ‘extreme danger’ waiting for Australian visa

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
October 20, 2021 4:48 pm

do it.. doit doitdoitdoiIIIIITTTT

France heats up fishing cold war giving Britain until November 1 to grant its fishing fleet more licenses or face retaliation with threats to cut cross-channel power lines
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10106839/Fran.html

Preferably the day before the Glasgow locust fest begins.

Dot
Dot
October 20, 2021 4:48 pm

What’s the CFR from COVID for people of all ages with no comorbidities or pre-existing conditions?

Bueller?

Eyrie
Eyrie
October 20, 2021 4:49 pm

Winston:

JC, you really are blind to your own excesses, aren’t you?

He’s just a sad character who thinks his rabid attack posts are somehow amusing. You can tell when he knows he is losing as he ramps them up. It is a dead giveaway.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
October 20, 2021 4:53 pm

Delta (B.1.617.2) variant

617? The Dam Busters variant?

***Barnes Wallis Energy Intensifies***

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=E1DCxpMz8aU

Chris
Chris
October 20, 2021 4:55 pm

What day does the Greens culling start Winston? Wouldn’t want to miss that. Do we get a go at the liars and the sfl as well?

I don’t want to cull the bastards.
I want them and their mates cut off from taxpayer funds forever.

Dot
Dot
October 20, 2021 4:57 pm

Anyone got an idea when that cuck Perrotett is going to end all of this COVID nonsense?

Look. He’s looking more and more like a Branch COVIDIAN true believer.

Dot
Dot
October 20, 2021 4:58 pm

There is no excuse for Hazzard and Elliot to still be around.

Winston Smith
October 20, 2021 5:01 pm

GreyRanga:

What day does the Greens culling start Winston? Wouldn’t want to miss that. Do we get a go at the liars and the sfl as well?

That’s the beauty of the Tasman Line. As soon as we get a a majority in Parliament and start enforcing the Gun Ownership diktats, Greens and Hippies will run, screaming in terror at even the thought of having one of those devil instruments in the house.
Some will fly to Victoria, but the Pure-at-heart won’t even wait for seats on aircraft. They’ll swim Bass Strait. Unsuccessfully.
Think of it as evolution in action.*
*manages to slip in Larry Niven quote…

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 20, 2021 5:01 pm

Lotsa publishers now doing that Zulu, as a lot of education departments demand it to put the books into schools. The long slow march through the institutions is a reality….

On the front page of Keith Payne VC’s autobiography?

Dot
Dot
October 20, 2021 5:03 pm
thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
October 20, 2021 5:09 pm

McClown is a humpknuckle.

But lets not forget to thank Zac F*ckup and the GreenLeft liberals who gifted him to us.

Even Baldrick would have blanched at a plan that started with ‘we will outflank them from the left” and then got progressively worse.

JC
JC
October 20, 2021 5:12 pm

JC, you really are blind to your own excesses, aren’t you?

He’s just a sad character who thinks his rabid attack posts are somehow amusing. You can tell when he knows he is losing as he ramps them up. It is a dead giveaway.

Yea Faulty2, I’m the one with excesses.

1. Turtle Head posted a comment the Chinese military was going to take over Australia by running China Airlines planes filled with troops landing at Melbourne airport, thereby foreshadowing the beginning of an invasion.

2. Turtle head made the following comment last evening.

Anyone care to bet on the growth in the Western World economy halving in the next 6 months and the inflation rate doubling?
Measured by G7 & inclusion of Australia, India and South Korea.

I did. I took him up on the bet and he offered a dollar to bet his side. Just earlier, Nurse Betty raised that to $2.

Then there’s you earlier today, doubting the death numbers from Covid. You posted this diatribe:

All the Covid stats etc can and are being obfuscated but dead bodies is what counts. Obviously this data is embarrassing so they don’t release it.

I reminded you with a pic of the mass graves in NY and asked that if you wanted to see others, I’d be happy to post pics of the mass graves in Italy and the UK.

And now, rather than directly talking to me directly, you’re attempting to posse up with the shrunken skull and you’re calling me sad.

You’ve tied yourself in knots over this covid stuff disturbingly so, to the extent you’re hoping people die awful and untimely deaths if they disagree with your take.

You’re just a useless sad figure who’s now become a figure of ridicule. A buffoon. Turtle head has always been that way so it’s nothing new to him and he’s comfortable with that characterization.

Sanchez.

See how they posse up. They’re trying here too.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 20, 2021 5:21 pm

Dotsays:

October 20, 2021 at 4:57 pm

Anyone got an idea when that cuck Perrotett is going to end all of this COVID nonsense?

Victorianistan residents would gladly trade Hunchback for a little Dom Perrottet ’96 at the moment.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 20, 2021 5:22 pm

Sanchez.

See how they posse up. They’re trying here too.

Well, they’ve got my posse to contend with.
Me, Cisco and Pancho.
The Three Amigos.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
October 20, 2021 5:22 pm

I don’t want to cull the bastards.
I want them and their mates cut off from taxpayer funds forever.

But you just said you didn’t want to cull them?

Gab
Gab
October 20, 2021 5:23 pm

Thanks, Winston. It only takes a few seconds, people.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
October 20, 2021 5:24 pm

Me, Cisco and Pancho.
The Three Amigos.

There’s even a theme song!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SQ2AFZJNIS4

Winston Smith
October 20, 2021 5:25 pm

The Frolicking Mole:
Well that was a great idea – not!
Make yourself dependent on a nation you’ve made enemies with for the last 500 years over an essential element of your society and industry.
Almost as clever as Germany doing the same with Russia.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 20, 2021 5:28 pm

Rex.
I was thinking of the original.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
October 20, 2021 5:29 pm

Winston.

It almost like relying on an essential item which can be switched on and off at a moments notice is a bad idea.
Especially just after you have wrecked 90% of your own power generation in an insane quest to run the UK on solar and wind power instead.

Might be a lesson in that somewhere.

Eyrie
Eyrie
October 20, 2021 5:31 pm

Think of it as evolution in action.*
*manages to slip in Larry Niven quote…

Heh.
Mrs Eyrie’s words when working at a small hospital emergency department one Saturday afternoon after a corpse was brought in rather the worse for wear after said about to be corpse forgot to duck under a bridge while “train surfing”.

Delta A
Delta A
October 20, 2021 5:32 pm

Would that be the traditional custodians who destroyed unique megafauna and bequethed us a fire prone landscape dominated by just three genera of trees?

Serious question, Roger… or anyone else who knows: what other botanical species existed prior to this extinction? Considering how well they grow in Australia, there must have been deciduous varieties like oaks, elms, ashes etc – all species which don’t recover after being burnt.

Eyrie
Eyrie
October 20, 2021 5:34 pm

Good question Delta A. I’m all for making Eucalyptus extinct and replacing them with nicer trees.

JC
JC
October 20, 2021 5:36 pm

Must have been a great old laugh between the two of you, right Eyrie? Did you or she piss on the dude’s grave (both?) being grave pissers from the early years? 🙂

Ellen of Tasmania
Ellen of Tasmania
October 20, 2021 5:38 pm

Although Tasmania does have some strategic advantages

Deadman used to say it was perfect for a free state project.

– Bass Strait between freedom and the north island
– Small population so easier to move the numbers
– four proper seasons

Winston Smith
October 20, 2021 5:41 pm

JC:
Another of your ‘tells’

And now, rather than directly talking to me directly, you’re attempting to posse up with the shrunken skull and you’re calling me sad.

Only people who write in support of the enemy de jour, are joining the pile on.
All else are courageous supporters of Truth and Justice. That is until JC has another shit day and feels like attacking the first person who looks sideways at him.
Then watch the venom flow!

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
October 20, 2021 5:41 pm
MatrixTransform
October 20, 2021 5:44 pm

We honor more than sixty thousand years of storytelling, art and culture…

and thank you for tolerating our sucky obsequiousness.

Because we are dedicated to your satisfaction,

we are now offering a free blow job with every subsequent purchase

Delta A
Delta A
October 20, 2021 5:46 pm

Gabsays:
October 20, 2021 at 4:37 pm
Petition opened only a few hours ago.

Done.

Gab, you are (and always have been) a Cat Treasure.

Thanks for bringing these important issues to our attention.

calli
calli
October 20, 2021 5:48 pm

oaks, elms, ashes etc – all species which don’t recover after being burnt.

A wetter, cooler climate would have seen species like Nothofagus, Eucryphias and the like, now limited to Tassie. In warmer areas, much the same as on the Atherton, similar but cooler on the Illawarra escarpment. Understory of Macrozamia, ferns.

Even with the proliferation of eucs, there is more biodiversity in urban Sydney bushland than in a similar area of Europe. We are blessed with wonderful plants. Shame they behave like grenades.

rosie
rosie
October 20, 2021 5:48 pm

What own goal you yappy chihuahua?
People claimed the statistics didn’t exist, they did, and never once has anyone here suggested its a grim reaper that could kill anyone!

If you thought it relevatory that the vast majority of deaths are of people over 80 aka not boomers I’d be wondering what rock you’d been hiding under all this time .

JC
JC
October 20, 2021 5:51 pm

Only people who write in support of the enemy de jour, are joining the pile on.

Turtle head you WERE on of the worst instigators at the old site. Laughably, you threatened legal action against Sinclair or me, you big bawling scumbag. You often accuse others of bullying. Pile ons and posses are the epitome of bullying actions, you disgusting nancy.

Recall the time someone came onto the site to defend your nursing job? Was that your wife and also, is she aware you told us she went to bed drunk every night? Does she know that?

All else are courageous supporters of Truth and Justice. That is until JC has another shit day and feels like attacking the first person who looks sideways at him.

I didn’t have a shit day at all. As you’re possibly aware, Turtle head, I believe you’re one of the biggest buffoons posting comments. You challenged people to bet with you yesterday and I took up the challenge. You then turned it into a dollar bet, you piking nurse betty.

Then watch the venom flow!

You know the rule. Don’t talk to me. Don’t grovel to me. You continually break the rule. I believe Sinclair put you on that rule as a condition, didn’t he? Perhaps the same should apply here. Now go crying the blog owner because I’ve been mean to you.

calli
calli
October 20, 2021 5:52 pm

Covid is killing the Silent Generation and is picking off some fat/co-morbid Boomers plus a few highly compromised younger ones.

We talked about this last year.

calli
calli
October 20, 2021 5:54 pm

Even then, the Silent Generation and Boomers are proving remarkably difficult to kill.

Crappy Made in China virus. Not fit for purpose. It needed help.

JC
JC
October 20, 2021 5:54 pm

What own goal you yappy chihuahua?

Eyrie, Faulty2… That’s you. I started it off as a barking “chihuahua”, but yapping sounds much better. Much funnier.

It’s a real pisser.. get it.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 20, 2021 5:54 pm

NSW Kung Flu fatality rates:-

0-9 0 0%
10-19 1 <1%
20-29 5 <1%
30-39 8 <1%
40-49 17 <1%
50-59 39 1%
60-69 62 2%
70-79 84 6%
80-89 116 15%
90+ 40 22%

You are aged in your 50’s.
Whatever the vax fatality rate (1/1,000,000 or 1/100,000), when you see a fatality rate of 1/100 from the virus, would it be logical to get the vax or not?

Delta A
Delta A
October 20, 2021 5:55 pm

From Gab’s link at 4.37.pm:

We want the COVID-19 pandemic state of emergency lifted now.

This is critical!

Our pathetic premiers are now exploiting the SoE well beyond its brief. These jumped up little bureaucrats – state and federal – need to know that, as their employers, we demand that they cease their posturing, dump the Covid scare and get back to work.

rosie
rosie
October 20, 2021 6:02 pm

We certainly did calli.
Incidentally as you are here could I ask you to keep an (incidentally unvaxxed) family member in your prayers.
Devastating news today that has nothing to do with covid.

JC
JC
October 20, 2021 6:03 pm

Covid is killing the Silent Generation and is picking off some fat/co-morbid Boomers plus a few highly compromised younger ones.

We talked about this last year.

Fault2, the yapping chihuahua says it’s all lies. Until he sees the body bags.

I posted this earlier.

NY Mass graves

I’ll add some more

Italy mass graves

UK mass graves.

Faulty2, go piss on these, you ridiculous, worthless piece of shit. Nothing personal though.

calli
calli
October 20, 2021 6:04 pm

We’re all going to catch it of course. Unless we’re locked forever in our playpens, it’s going to happen. The ideal is to get a mild form and develop some natural immunity.

The fly in the ointment, as it’s been tweaked in a lab, is that natural immunity might not be so easy to get. This isn’t helped with all the background noise from propagandists of all persuasions yodelling their messages and seeing who can be the most ridiculous.

And our own Australian brand of laconic acceptance of the most diabolically inane, untalented and preposterous excuses for politicians ever to walk the face of the earth.

Dot
Dot
October 20, 2021 6:06 pm

You are aged in your 50’s.
Whatever the vax fatality rate (1/1,000,000 or 1/100,000), when you see a fatality rate of 1/100 from the virus, would it be logical to get the vax or not?

Probably not unless you are ill with another chronic issue.

With vaccine efficacy being reported as low as 30%, herd immunity is impossible.

MatrixTransform
October 20, 2021 6:07 pm

regarding the DAEN database of adverse reactions, I just wanna ask something of the very clever and witty punters of this august community …

preface:
given that in a any sort of blind trial where a placebo was given, some of the placebo group will ALSO report adverse reactions and symptoms.

Q1:
for the dead the people in this database are they —
a. drama queens?
b. faking it?
c. confused?

Q2:
Who in this most dire of dire pandemicals, who exactly is getting the placebo?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 20, 2021 6:07 pm

callisays:

October 20, 2021 at 5:52 pm

Covid is killing the Silent Generation and is picking off some fat/co-morbid Boomers plus a few highly compromised younger ones.

This occured to me the other day.
All this emphasis on the vax, whilst ignoring the other contributing factors.
Friends of ours (total StandWivDans) are proudly waving their vax certificates around but acknowledge that they have porked up in LockDan. And I mean really porked up.
Almost everyone will get this bug at some stage. I have cut back on the turps and ramped up the exercise. Got rid of a couple of kgs with a couple more to go, and the heart rate monitor says my CV fitness is improved.
That is just as important as the vax.
But our ‘Elf Perfessionals haven’t said boo about that.

Dot
Dot
October 20, 2021 6:07 pm

Plus, the pandemic has already wiped out most of the vulnerable.

All of this crap should be over right now.

Australia. You can lose your job without a vaccine, but you can come into the country as a foreign non-resident.

calli
calli
October 20, 2021 6:12 pm

Plus, the pandemic has already wiped out most of the vulnerable.

Front loading, buried under a shedload of stupid lockdowns and posturing and economic and social ruin.

Just in case we might miss it. We haven’t.

Reminds me of one of G.K. Chesterton’s stories, later reprised by Christie. They tried to hide the bleedin’ obvious under a mound of health orders and repression. Tells you all you need to know about the calibre of our politicians.

hzhousewife
hzhousewife
October 20, 2021 6:12 pm

Shame they behave like grenades.

There goes the gin and tonic all over the keyboard !

Pogria
Pogria
October 20, 2021 6:13 pm

As Winston said;
Gab:
Petition EN3411 – Condemn Public Policy Vaccination Program for ALL Australians
Done…
Same here.

Bless you Gab.

Old bloke
Old bloke
October 20, 2021 6:16 pm

Latest Queensland Tourism data shows that International visitor numbers FY June 21 were 49,000.

Knuckle Dragger says:
October 20, 2021 at 11:51 am

49,000 footballers, WAGs, reality TV show contestants and people from Hollywood got to go to Queensland in the FY ending June 2021.

That’s 49,000 INTERNATIONAL visitors to Queensland last financial year, almost 1,000 per week. The footy players and their hangers on are an additional cohort. I wonder how they select the A-Listers who can come and go regardless of closed borders.

Fat Tony
Fat Tony
October 20, 2021 6:21 pm

Gab:
Petition EN3411 – Condemn Public Policy Vaccination Program for ALL Australians
Done…

Same here.

2dogs
October 20, 2021 6:21 pm

The rotation of the political axes that started with Brexit continues apace.

Now, (new) right wing happy / (old) left wing unhappy about the conduct and successful result of some industrial action:

https://www.rt.com/usa/537913-southwest-rescinds-vaccine-unpaid-leave/

calli
calli
October 20, 2021 6:23 pm

Soooooo….Hamilton Island isn’t a wasteland with tumbleweeds rolling through the deserted villas.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
October 20, 2021 6:32 pm

Nothofagus

Cancelled for homophobia 40,000-odd years before cancelling was cool.

Damned Ancient Hipsters. (Speaking of which, has Bruce Pascoe found any evidence of pre-settlement IPAs, man-buns and flannelette shirt materials yet?)…

Pogria
Pogria
October 20, 2021 6:37 pm

Get your vaccine passport t shirts

I am going to stock up.

calli
calli
October 20, 2021 6:38 pm

Lol, Rex. Antarctic Beech. A relic of Gondwana.

Un-gay. But definitely bi-sexual.

C.L.
C.L.
October 20, 2021 6:48 pm

As I’ve argued before, the reason governments are insisting on magical 80 and 90 percent vaccination coverage is – essentially – to cover up the fact that natural immunity is what will actuate the downslope of the bell curve. Can you imagine what would happen if an Australian jurisdiction had a vaxx rate of 25 percent and a death/hospitalisation rate no worse than the 90 percenter states and territories?

In about 12 weeks (rough estimate), double-vaxxed booster sceptics will be losing their jobs and being pilloried by the media. In 2022, triplers who refuse a quad will be next. Watch.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 20, 2021 6:56 pm

Anyone bagging the flanno better be ready to step up to the plate.

Just sayin’.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 20, 2021 6:58 pm

Covid is killing the Silent Generation and is picking off some fat/co-morbid Boomers plus a few highly compromised younger ones.

Really, the thing to do would be to make everyone fat, 84 and comorbid. That’s how the public are being treated anyway.

Like that Quentin dwarf bloke on Mike Willesee who broke an arm and a rib every time he sneezed.

calli
calli
October 20, 2021 6:59 pm

Ultimately, C.L., something’s going to give.

I can’t see the endless prospect of useless “boosters” gaining traction, except for the most ridiculously risk averse. They’ve had to bully and bribe and propagandise for the initial round. Each time, it will get harder and harder to convince people, especially as they see the things lose potency.

Arky
October 20, 2021 6:59 pm

I make the following prophesy: The wretch Daniel Andrews will die from a horrible flesh rotting disease well before a normal man’s full span and most everyone in this state will rejoice at his suffering.

calli
calli
October 20, 2021 7:03 pm

A cunning tyrant like Dan will already have his escape plan. I don’t think flesh eating disease will be part of it.

Possibly a private jet. And a safe haven.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 20, 2021 7:04 pm

Sorry.
My estimate earlier today of Queensland’s normal inbound international tourist numbers were under-cooked.
The number for the year to September 2018 was 2,800,000.
Anyone buying the line from PalaceChook and Miles that a mere 5,200,000 Queenssslanders are going to pick up that slack in the tourist market is smoking serious hydroponic dope.
Oh, and that “snapback” thing?
Travel agents in China, Japan, USA and Europe will be warning customers off, big-time.
Why would you tip clients into that shit-show?

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
October 20, 2021 7:08 pm

Councillor scolded by Newcastle Mayor for shocking ‘unclothed’ Zoom appearance
THEAUSTRALIAN.COM.AU4:25
The best Zoom fails ever: ‘I’m not actually a cat Judge. Yes, I can see that’
The Councillor’s initial appearance as seen by the lord mayor and other councillors was not visible to the public.
The Councillor’s initial appearance as seen by the lord mayor and other councillors was not visible to the public.
HELENA BURKE
FEDERAL POLITICS REPORTER
NCA NEWSWIRE
2 HOURS AGO OCTOBER 20, 2021
A Councillor has been slammed by a Lord Mayor after he appeared “unclothed” in a council Zoom meeting on Tuesday night.

Around halfway through the meeting of the development applications committee, Newcastle Lord Mayor Nuatali Nelmes abruptly stopped speaking after she caught sight of a shirtless Allan Robinson on the video call.

“Councillor Robinson, can I just call you to order, you cannot be unclothed on a council meeting,” she said.

“It’s not OK. It brings council into disrepute and I just don’t want to deal with it.

“Please don’t do it.”

The Newcastle Mayor stopped speaking abruptly after she spotted the shirtless Mr Robinson on the Zoom call.
Mr Robinson responded to Mayor Nelmes’ concerns, but his reply was inaudible.

The Councillor’s initial appearance as seen by the Lord Mayor and other Councillors was not visible to the public, but he did appear shirtless on the public broadcast as he replied to Mayor Nelmes’ request.

After Mr Robinson put on a shirt, Mayor Nelmes continued to the next agenda item and the meeting moved on.

Newcastle council referred NCA NewsWire to the Office of Local Governments’ meetings rules and standards.

“Councillors will be required to be appropriately dressed when attending meetings by audio-visual link,” the rules read.

Newcastle Mayor Nuatali Nelmes said being ‘unclothed’ in a meeting brought Newcastle council into ‘disrepute’.
This is not the first time Mr Robinson has stirred controversy within Newcastle’s local government.

The former jockey, who became an independent Councillor in 2012, was recently dropped by his party after a scathing report found he had made a series of abusive comments about his colleagues.

Mr Robinson was accused of “relentless sexism and homophobic bullying” after making remarks in meetings and via emails about the sexuality and appearance of Mayor Nelmes and other Councillors.

In one email referred to in the report, Mr Robinson poked fun at his female colleagues for their weight.

Mr Robinson was accused of “relentless sexism and homophobic bullying” after making remarks about the weight and sexuality of his colleagues.
Mr Robinson was accused of “relentless sexism and homophobic bullying” after making remarks about the weight and sexuality of his colleagues.
“I’ve spoken to Grahame about this something needs to be done. If it was in fleet street where fatsos parents live it would have already happened,” Mr Robinson said in one email.

“She’s a big chunky woman, she has got legs like Blocker Roach, she is a big unit,” he wrote in another.

The local Councillor was also caught openly referring to his homosexual colleagues as “poof(s)” and “custard(s).”

The Newcastle independent party announced in July that Mr Robinson would not be included on their ticket at the next election.

Mr Robinson said he intended to run as a “rogue independent” in light of this.

Councillor Robinson was contacted for comment.

HELENA BURKE. FEDERAL POLITICS REPORTER

Arky
October 20, 2021 7:08 pm

I always use to feel disgust at those fundamentalist Christians who looked forward to a literal coming about of Revelations. I had a female colleague once who told me that she expected to be up there looking down on the torment of the unsaved.
Since watching that last clip of Daniel Andrews on Sky, I can now see the attraction.
I hope to watch him writhe in agony for the shit he has pulled.

calli
calli
October 20, 2021 7:09 pm

Also, even flesh eating diseases have standards.

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
October 20, 2021 7:10 pm

I went to a pub yesterday to use an ATM but was not permitted to enter because leper.

Old bloke
Old bloke
October 20, 2021 7:13 pm

Parliament House Petition EN2753 – No Mandatory Covid-19 vaccination which closed in the middle of July garnered around 310,000 signatures. It was basically summarily dismissed by Hunt, you would think that getting 310,000 voters cranky would be the last thing a politician facing re-election soon would want to face.

Hunt says that the vaxxines aren’t experimental, even though he said in Parliament that they were experimental, and the jabees would be taking part in the world’s largest experiment.

Link to the petition, the link to the Minister’s response (PDF) is at the bottom of the page.

calli
calli
October 20, 2021 7:13 pm

Patience, Tinta. There will be a reckoning. There always is.

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
October 20, 2021 7:14 pm

There is an exodus of support workers in the disability sector. I know of a group home where three workers are on unpaid leave because they will not submit they would rather be without a job than submit, they are from countries formerly part of the USSR. And there are many more who have been in touch.

Arky
October 20, 2021 7:15 pm

I just hope there’s beer while we watch the divine, painful writhing of the wicked.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 20, 2021 7:17 pm

the divine, painful writhing of the wicked.

Dover.

Art suggestion for the next thread please.

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
October 20, 2021 7:18 pm

Patience, Tinta. There will be a reckoning. There always is.

calli if there’s one thing I have cultivated over the last 30 years it has been patience. I only have to see the exactness which is coming to the morally and spiritually corrupt Gladys Berejiklian to know that there is always a reckoning. We may not always see it but I know there is a reckoning in ways that are unfathomable and just.

Roger
Roger
October 20, 2021 7:20 pm

As I’ve argued before, the reason governments are insisting on magical 80 and 90 percent vaccination coverage is – essentially – to cover up the fact that…

No; it’s to cover their arses.

MatrixTransform
October 20, 2021 7:25 pm

Hunt says that the vaxxines aren’t experimental

Hunt is a lawyer … in the very best of hands we are

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
October 20, 2021 7:26 pm

It was basically summarily dismissed by Hunt,

That was a flabbergastingly disingenuous response by Greggo.

It could have been written as a staged text to be torn apart by sixth form students in the old “clear thinking” part of the syllabus.

Dot
Dot
October 20, 2021 7:28 pm

Bosch please for next art work.

MatrixTransform
October 20, 2021 7:31 pm

Bosch please for next art work.

Hell

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 20, 2021 7:32 pm

Blot just had Barnaby on.

Tore him a new arse for his vax stance for Federal pollies, and how it ‘would just lead to fights’.

Oh wait.

calli
calli
October 20, 2021 7:34 pm

This one Dot?

Old bloke
Old bloke
October 20, 2021 7:36 pm

Arky says:
October 20, 2021 at 6:59 pm

I make the following prophesy: The wretch Daniel Andrews will die from a horrible flesh rotting disease well before a normal man’s full span and most everyone in this state will rejoice at his suffering.

Fournier’s gangrene would be appropriate, that’s what took King Herod away. Your body rots while you’re still living in it, imagine walking around in great pain smelling like a rotting corpse. Gangrene of the genitalia is part of the cycle, an account of Herod’s last days records that his testicle exploded and the floor was covered in worms.

I think I’d prefer being thrown down the stairs again to that.

Winston Smith
October 20, 2021 7:40 pm

Arky:

I just hope there’s beer while we watch the divine, painful writhing of the wicked.

And Top Hats.
(Per the statement by ?Whitlam after a commoner accused him of wearing a Top Hat at the Melbourne Cup)
“Everyone will have Top Hats, Comrade.”

MatrixTransform
October 20, 2021 7:41 pm

Sergey Tyukanov — purgatory

Dot
Dot
October 20, 2021 7:42 pm

Yeah. The Harrowing of Hell.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 20, 2021 7:42 pm

his testicle exploded and the floor was covered in worms.

‘Mr Wang. Mr Wang, please come to the white phone in the lobby.’

calli
calli
October 20, 2021 7:45 pm

On artworks, an inundation of public servants seems appropriate.

Magritte.

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