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Zipster
Zipster
October 21, 2021 8:14 am

wot is “aspiration”

when the syringe is insert they are supposed to pull back on the plunger to see if blood comes up, if it does they have hit a vessel and have to start again.

calli
calli
October 21, 2021 8:15 am

That was poorly worded.

Someone in the NT was attacked by a cow.

Indolent
Indolent
October 21, 2021 8:16 am

Just supposing Trump had won last year.

He did win, by a huge margin. There was effectively a coup d’etat.

rosie
rosie
October 21, 2021 8:18 am

If Trump had won last year the msm would have continued to oppose the vaccines and blaming Trump for all covid deaths.

Cassie of Sydney
October 21, 2021 8:19 am

“He did win, by a huge margin. There was effectively a coup d’etat.”

Correct.

calli
calli
October 21, 2021 8:20 am

I understand that, Indolent. What about the rest of it?

Walking along this morning, I popped myself into a parallel universe where Trump was still president, the “vaccines” had been rolled out to much derision and ree-ing and tried to imagine where we’d be now.

That was all.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 21, 2021 8:20 am

I see someone was attacked by a cow in the NT.

It’s no laughing matter, calli. You could be doing anything.

Getting milk from the fridge, borrowing a cup of sugar from a neighbour, getting out of the shower, parallel parking. Anything.

Then – BAM. The bovine hoof, squarely on the base of your brain stem. If you’re lucky you’ll get a final look into those dead, all-black eyes of the beast as big as a Prado as it stares you down into oblivion.

Every day’s a fucking tightrope up here.

duncanm
duncanm
October 21, 2021 8:22 am

Sancho Panzersays:
October 21, 2021 at 8:04 am
Mater at 6:30.
Go here for total Kung Flu deaths.
If you had the stats for last year you could deduce this years.
But it is, as we know, weighted heavily towards older people.

if you really want to see what a big nothing burger the Wu Flu is, check out the UK excess mortality.

1999/2000 saw about 95k excess deaths over the two winters, or 1600/million population.

total UK excess mortality since March 2020 (ie: 18 months) is 115k, or about 1700/million.

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 21, 2021 8:30 am

FlyingPigssays:
October 20, 2021 at 11:01 pm
but who is checking the level of wuflu in the wombat population???

The wombat whisperer who used to run the Commonwealth Treasury? Ken Henry?

rosie
rosie
October 21, 2021 8:32 am

Only the media, especially the abc think someone ‘changing roles’ in their organisation is worthy of a headline.
Anyone who listened to her stupid show already knew.

Twostix
Twostix
October 21, 2021 8:33 am

Snopes, factcheck.org,the guardian, any port in a storm ay Rosie?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 21, 2021 8:34 am

Victoria has dropped the partial vax column after a strange statistical about face in the logical progression of those numbers.

Gez, it may be that the numbers are perfectly logical, but this is classic PR at work.
Let’s say vaccines reduce risk by half.
At 50% vaxxed, the casualties would be split 2/3 unvaxxed and 1/3 vaxxed.
But as vaccination rates climb, the gap will close until raw numbers of vaxxed deaths overtake unvaxxed (theoretically at 67% vaccination rate).
The raw death numbers suddenly look bad and are getting worse for the vaxxed.
PR and Media types, being totally innumerate, think this data needs to be spun, rather than simply explained. In other words, as superior beings, if they can’t grasp it, what hope would the average Joe have?
Example.
A while ago, a bunch of medicos ran a full page advert talking about the risk factors of maybe half a dozen medical treatments/interventions (general anaesthetic, Covid vaccine etc).
Whatever your view on vaxes, this is a useful bit of information.
Nanny Neil Mitchell’s verdict?
“Oh, I don’t know. Advertising people will say that message is too complex, too difficult to understand.”
Which is why we end up with patchy data and banal slogans like “Staying apart keeps us together”.

Cassie of Sydney
October 21, 2021 8:35 am

Hard to believe the US election was almost a year ago. I remember the day vividly, I was at CPAC and we were watching the results come in, it was all going Trump’s way, people were assuring me that Trump had it in the bag however I knew something sinister would transpire and then, suddenly, the counting stopped…and the rest is history…..ugly history.

Top Ender
Top Ender
October 21, 2021 8:35 am

Trafalgar Night

Today an age-old tradition of the Royal Australian Navy will be observed. We will always do well to remember Horatio Nelson, the greatest fighting sailor who ever lived, and one who should serve as a model for naval people everywhere.

Horatio Nelson, the victor of the Battle of Trafalgar, fought against his country’s enemies for much of his life. A short, thin man not blessed with good looks, he first entered the British navy as a midshipman at the age of 12 years and three months. His father was a parson and Nelson had behind him a boyhood that had not been characterised by anything except need. He was one of eight children; his mother had died when he was nine, and his prospects did not look hopeful. However, even at a young age Nelson had initiative – he persuaded an older brother to appeal to his father to arrange an entry to the Navy via the good graces of an uncle, who commanded the 64-gun Raisonable. Bending the rules which should have rated Nelson as a captain’s servant, his uncle made sure the boy was accepted.

The British Navy in those days was the greatest in the world in terms of power, and also the most professional, with high standards both expected and met, and characterised by discipline and great ability from sailor and officer alike. With hundreds of years of tradition behind it, this was the Navy that had sailed the seven seas in exploration under great navigators such as James Cook and William Bligh, and defeated Britain’s enemies at sea in fleet and single ship action, often achieving victory against the odds. It was a harsh Navy too, with unrelenting discipline that often had to keep crews on its ships by force, which was often the way the sailors had arrived there in the first place – by being “pressed”. (The British sailor, for all his tremendous stamina, courage and resourcefulness, was also no fool, and often preferred a more comfortable and profitable existence ashore). Even for the most junior officer – midshipmen such as Nelson – the life was hard. These young officers lived in discomfort, often with poor food, were as disciplined as their sailors – they were often beaten in the gunroom rather than flogged at the gratings. They had a great deal to learn; from navigation to naval combat techniques along with all of the complex construction and handling of a wind-driven ship of war. And of course, there was always the prospect of being shot at with all of the horrors of combat in those days: chain shot, grape shot, musket fire and cannonball along with the cutlasses and pistols of the enemy; all combined to kill, maim or wound -with no recourse to attention under anaesthetic – the sailors of Nelson’s navy.

Into this doubtful future in 1771 came the young midshipman, to his first ship. Despite being prone to sickness: “I have had all the diseases that are” he once said; he adapted well to the vigorous and often dangerous life that was the Navy. He volunteered early in his service for a two-ship voyage to the North Pole, where he and a fellow midshipman left the ice-bound ship in the middle of the night to hunt a polar bear. The two adventurers were later seen attacking a bear some distance from the ship; the signal was made for them to return; which they did reluctantly – Nelson’s excuse was that he wanted to send the bear’s skin to his father.

Passing his Lieutenant’s examination in 1777, Nelson gained promotion to Post-Captain in the following year. His early commands were frigates, and he saw varied action: against privateers; river forts; on blockade. He married in 1787, but while he and his new wife were able to spend time together ashore in a comparatively peaceful period of Britain’s history, Nelson hankered after a new ship. With the beginning of the French Revolution war looked imminent, and the young captain, now 34, was given his first line-of-battle ship, the fourth rate 64-gun Agamemnon.

Nelson’ leadership strategies – novel for their time

Nelson employed in his leadership style something quite unusual for its day: the art of effective communication. One characteristic of this is to invite others to contribute their ideas for a campaign, or a battle, or a change of some sort; to educate his men and get them – and him – to know each others’ minds. Nelson embarked upon the Battle of the Nile in 1798 by letting his captains engage in individual fashion. The French fleet, anchored by the bows in a line in shallow coastal water, were engaged in ship to ship fashion by five British ships sailing inside the line and anchoring, and the rest engaging from outside. Thus the French were caught between two forces. At the end of hours of fighting, the French had lost 1, 700 men to the British loss of 200, and their fleet was largely pounded to pieces; Napoleon and his army stranded in Eygpt. Nelson had hoisted just two signals through the entire battle.

For the autocratic manager this would have been disastrous – an authoritarian leader would not trust his subordinates to make momentous decisions and fight on their own. Nelson, however, trusted his individual captains. So too, in the long pursuit of the French, years later in 1805, which led to Trafalgar, he had regular meetings with his “Band of Brothers” – the name first applied to those who fought under him at the Nile. During the long chase the officers would pool their ideas for forthcoming battles; the best use of tactics; what a following ship would do when its fellow was sighted engaged and so on. Consequently even the necessity for signals within the ensuing battle was dispensed with; the captains knew each others’ minds.

There are many other such examples of this attitude; Nelson detested a formal meeting but rather preferred informal sessions where his fellows could relax and speak their mind freely. Perhaps this is one of the many aspects of the man that inspired such loyalty from his peers: Hardy, who was with him when he died, Collingwood, whose battle line he enthusiastically raced to be first to engage at Trafalgar; Berry, who followed him from ship to ship; Hallowell, who after the Battle of the Nile made him a present of a coffin fashioned from the mainmast of the French ship L’Orient – Nelson kept it in his cabin for some time and was indeed buried in it.

Nelson was the supreme naval tactician. He demonstrated this many times in battle; his earlier commands of frigates having given him an understanding of the advantages of maneuverability and speedy action which he later brought to bear against the more textbook examples of action such as the commitment of a fleet into line of battle order. One of his notable tactical decisions – typical of a frigate captain – was action in the 1797 battle of Cape St Vincent. Fighting against the Spanish fleet and commanding HMS Captain, Nelson without orders put his ship across the advancing line of Spanish warships – his two-decker of 74 guns facing a four-decker of 136 guns – then the biggest ship afloat – with three-deckers behind. In this way Nelson forced the Spanish ships to alter course, thus allowing others of the British van to join the battle. As historian Christopher Lloyd says: “Only a tactician of genius and a man totally without fear would have dared to do this on his own initiative”.

The development of “the Nelson touch” – that singular appreciation of the battle to come and the right actions to take – was part of his tactical repertoire time and again. For example, we may look at his pursuit in the van of the British fleet to capture the 84 gun Ca Ira in 1796. In the ship to ship encounter Nelson’s maneuvering allowed him to inflict damage on the French ship repeatedly while avoiding damage himself. The French ship looked like being relieved when one of her peers arrived to help, but then both surrendered to Nelson. He was even capable of showing brilliance in land assaults, as he did at the siege of Bastia in Corsica, taking command of 12,000 troops and 300 seamen, bringing the town to capitulation. But innovative tactics did not prevent Nelson from understanding the brute force necessary for naval battles of the day; at the peak of his success he was to declare: “No captain can do very wrong if he places his ship alongside that of an enemy”.

Nelson was a master of naval strategy. He demonstrated this repeatedly. He was recognised by one of the great Admirals of the age, Sir John Jervis, later to be Lord St Vincent, to be “more an associate than a subordinate officer” as Nelson wrote to his wife, and Jervis made him a Commodore. An occasional diplomat, Nelson never lost sight of the “Big Picture” of victory against Napoleon Bonaparte, and was always one to rise against personal rivalry with fellow officers, and the inter-service rivalry which then as now was a pestilence upon campaigns. Nelson, for example, was the commander of the force at the Bastia siege, while his Army equivalent, the famous Colonel Sir John Moore, “sulked in his tent” as Lloyd put it. Before the battle of Cape St. Vincent Nelson was to write: “A victory is very essential to England at this moment”. He was truly an instrument of his nation rather than himself.

Nelson knew also when to fight and when to seek peace. Having fought the Danish fleet into a standstill at Copenhagen, he negotiated with Denmark’s Prince Royal afterwards, seeking to stop the Prince’s country from moving towards Bonaparte. A successful armistice of 14 weeks was concluded by Nelson, demonstrating his mastery of statesmanship and strategy; a vote of thanks in the House of Commons commented: “that Lord Nelson had shown himself as wise as he was brave, and proved that there may be united in the same person the talents of the Warrior and the Statesman”.

Nelson was a leader, who demonstrated ruthlessness when necessary: he sacked his secretary after the Battle of the Nile, when that man broke down at the sight of his leader’s wound and failed to carry out Nelson’s orders. But he also demonstrated a willingness to learn, to change bad old ways for new better ones, and he was always willing to take advice, from anyone of any rank. Nelson learnt from Admiral Jervis, for example, of the importance of cleanliness on board ship to prevent typhus, and the necessity of lemon juice to ward off scurvy. But he also looked for greatness in his juniors, having Edward Berry, his First Lieutenant in Agamemnon, promoted to Captain because “he is an officer of talents, great courage and laudable ambition”. The biographer Southey observed: “He could electrify all within his atmosphere” while St. Vincent, not a man who was prone to flattery, said that Nelson: “…possessed the magic art of infusing the same spirit into others which inspired their own actions”.

Nelson was a man of courage, honour and action who we would do well to emulate. This is the sailor who lost an eye when an enemy shell, exploding during the siege of Calvi in Corsica, drove splinters and dust and rock fragments into his face. He suffered most terribly and often from wounds, paradoxically being not so much a man who loved combat as one who stood back as demanded of a senior commanding officer crucial to the course of battle. His wounds resulted from being quite willing to lead from the front if that was what it took to win an action. His right arm was amputated after the battle of Santa Cruz in Teneriffe due to his being hit by grapeshot. On the way back to the ship – at that time the Theseus – Nelson was lying in the bottom of the boat with a tourniquet around his arm, half conscious from loss of blood. When they reached the ship, he was half-hauled on board, clinging to the rope with one arm while he climbed up the ship’s side. Once on board he gave orders for the surgeon to be called immediately, saying: “for I know I must lose my arm, and the sooner it is off the better.”

During the battle of Cape St Vincent – we recall Nelson had thrown Captain in the path of the vastly superior 136 gun Santissiama Trinidada – this man of courage and action himself led the charge up the side of the Spanish 80 gun San Nicolas, followed by “my old Agamemnons” – a detachment of the Sixty-Ninth Regiment of Foot. Together they stormed the ship, Nelson leading with a cry of “Westminster Abbey or Glorious Victory” and if that was not enough, when fired upon by the San Josef, which had collided with her sister ship, he led the way aboard her too. Together the men from CAPTAIN took this ship as well. By the end of the action Captain had to be towed away, but the British fleet – outmanned and outgunned – had won the day, thanks to Jervis’s training and discipline of his men and Nelson’s initiative; celebrated in the public’s acclaim as “Nelson’s Patent Bridge for Boarding First Rates”. Nelson himself was immediately promoted to Rear Admiral. His wife meanwhile, begged him to “leave boarding to Captains”.

This too is the man who had the courage of his own convictions, who could often have left off and blamed superiors for failure, but instead the man who chose to advance when he knew defeat was attainable and essential. At the Battle of Copenhagen, walking the deck while the guns roared their broadsides, and deadly splinters whistled about his ears, this is the man who confided to Colonel Stewart, commander of infantry, who was with him on the quarterdeck, that he would not be “elsewhere for thousands”. And when his uncertain superior, Admiral Parker, made the signal to leave off the action, Nelson refused to see it, putting his telescope to his blind eye and exclaiming: “I really do not see the signal”. The British won the battle.

However, Nelson was never one to be less than magnanimous in victory and brave in defeat. He once took on with his own two frigates two ships of equal size belonging to the Spanish. Before the fight began, the following dialogue took place between the lead ships across the water.

“This is an English frigate. If you do not surrender, I will fire.”
“This is a Spanish frigate. You may begin as soon as you please.”

A fierce fight then took place, and the English began to get the better of things. Called upon several times to surrender, the senior Spanish officer, Don Jacobo Stuart, replied with: “No sir, not whilst I have the means of fighting left”. When the Spanish eventually struck, Don Jacobo was most generously treated, and Nelson wrote personally to the captain general to whom was given the prisoners, and asked that they be looked after, saying: “It becomes great nations to act with generosity to each other, and to soften the horrors of war”.

Nelson was a Humanitarian ahead of his times. Although he served in a time when naval discipline was harsh indeed, he was never one to flog a fleet into shape, as even some of the more intelligent naval commanders were wont to do: Admiral Sir John Jervis, for example, although Jervis attained a reputation as harsh but very fair. While the famous naval mutinies of Spithead and the Nore raged, Nelson’s ships remained aloof from the dispute, although the stories had leaked through. Perhaps it is significant that when the Theseus, a ship implicated in the mutinies, was sent to join Nelson’s ships, a scrap of paper was casually dropped on her quarterdeck a fortnight later. It read:

Success attend Admiral Nelson! God bless Captain Miller! We thank them for the officers they have placed over us. We are happy and comfortable, and will shed every drop of blood in our veins to support them, and the name of the Theseus shall be immortalized as high as the Captain’s – Ship’s Company.

This was the commander, who even before his fame grew to its eventual immense proportions, who had men petition to serve under him, and who often took a personal interest in their welfare. Although we might think such interest as being perfectly normal, this was a hard and savage era of history, with the “mob” below and leaders such as Nelson far above. Nelson, unusually for the age, while not rubbing shoulders on all occasions with his men, saw them as being humans and worth his time. On one of the many occasions he was wounded, Nelson refused to allow attention to be paid to him before the others of the ship’s crew awaiting the surgeon’s attention. On another occasion, after the Battle of Copenhagen, and again unusually for the age, he visited the hospital in which his men lay wounded even before visiting Emma Hamilton, and took especial interest in them, giving their nurses a guinea each as a mark of especial encouragement in their duties.

On the 21st of October 1805 the British fleet, after months of pursuit, met the French and Spanish forces under Admiral Villeneuve at sea off Cape Trafalgar. The British, in two lines according to Nelson’s instructions, raced to intersect the enemy’s line of battle. In the late morning Nelson directed his famous signal be hoisted. The flag lieutenant suggested a more economical hoist of 12 flags, and therefore the word “confides” was changed to “expects”. The rolled flags raced to the masthead of Victory and snapped open: “England expects every man will do his duty”. At 11.45 the battle was joined. In Victory the band played “Rule Britannia” and “Britons Strike Home” as followed by Temeraire and Neptune she opened fire. The French and Spanish fought well but the British, ruling the seas after years of battle, were their master, and the fleet action, now joined on all sides, began to go against Villeneuve.

At 1.35 Nelson, pacing his quarterdeck amidst the crash of the broadsides, calm amidst the smoke that wreathed Victory, was giving his orders quietly and firmly, as always. A French sharpshooter, stationed in the rigging of the Redoutable, took aim at the distinctively-uniformed slight figure and fired.

The shot, from only 15 metres, was a sure one, and the Admiral fell. He was carried below, and while the battle raged, he lay dying in Victory’s cockpit. He was at last brought the news of the British triumph. His last words were as follows: “Take care of poor Lady Hamilton. Kiss me, Hardy. Now I am satisfied. Thank God, I have done my duty”. The ship’s log records. “Partial firing continued until 4.30, when a victory having been reported to the Right Honourable Lord Viscount Nelson KB and Commander in Chief, he then died of his wound.”

While Australia is perhaps taking new directions, we must remember the origins of the Royal Australian Navy, born before World War I and initiated in fire and blood under the aegis of the Royal Navy. We have inherited its uniforms, its ranks, its tactics and techniques. Although we now learn from and teach other forces, and our ships are a mixture of our own design and the best from around the world, surely we must take the most from our history as we continue. Nelson is part of our tradition; part of our past, and he and all that was his should never be forgotten. The Tradition of Trafalgar Night and its toast – “To the Immortal Memory” should always be part of the Royal Australian Navy and its traditions.

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Top Ender served as a naval officer for 20 years. He was awarded the Order of Australia Medal for his services to naval history. His latest book is Teddy Sheean VC, a study of the much-delayed Victoria Cross awarded last year to the only Australian naval member to be awarded the Victoria Cross.

Zipster
Zipster
October 21, 2021 8:37 am

The Specter of One World Government Looms Large

Every morning I wake up expecting this announcement. Clock is ticking…

C.L.
C.L.
October 21, 2021 8:38 am

I love the new But Of Course spinning about the vaccines:

In the short term, the vaccines work particularly well,” Professor Bennett said.”

Tom
Tom
October 21, 2021 8:39 am

Every day’s a fucking tightrope up here.

Thanks, KD. Laughed out loud.

I’ll never forget driving off the Stuart Highway into the scrub at about 120 kmh on the way to start of the the Last Great Cattle Drive at Newcastle Waters station (north of Elliot) in 1988. It was a hire car and I imagined I was driving to Vegas with my fat Samoan attorney.

calli
calli
October 21, 2021 8:40 am

Rosie, the interesting thing about that link is the co-morbidities number.

Over 95% of the death certificates had other illnesses listed as present along with Covid. And that didn’t include obesity or age (although many of the co-morbidities would be reasonably expected to appear with age).

In other words, for Covid to kill you, you have to be already sick.

srr
srr
October 21, 2021 8:41 am

sfw says:
October 21, 2021 at 6:48 am
[…]
I’ve lost all respect for the medical profession, doctors, nurses, chemists injecting unwilling people with experimental drugs against their will. I was amazed when I first heard of the nazi doctors, and they were at the extreme but looking around now at full term abortions, forced injections and full support for the gov, it seems that expert knowledge and high intelligence is no barrier to barbarism anywhere.

Japan’s secret Unit 731 – where biological warfare was conceived
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFEgz8NNmVA
Dec 26, 2020
RT Documentary
The terrible crimes of Japan’s secret Unit 731 make anyone’s blood run cold. Thousands of people were used as test subjects for the development of biological weapons. The subjects were injected with cholera, typhoid, anthrax, bubonic plague, to be later dissected alive.

The unit’s ideologist Shiro Ishii and most of his associates were never punished. They became practising physicians or scientists. Watch our film to find out why.

00:00 – Intro
01:46– Japan’s biological warfare project
09:16 – Unit 731: Human experiments lab
13:14 – “I infected people with plague, shigella, etc”
22:03 – Torture of women and children
27:57 – Hiroshima and Nagasaki: atomic bombs
29:10 – The end of Unit 731
32:30 – Did the U.S. become a safe place for war criminals?
34:35 – The start of the Cold War
36:28 – Testing on humans continued
45:21 – Only 12 members of Unit 731 were tried

calli
calli
October 21, 2021 8:41 am

It’s clear from the US data that “vaccination” is completely unnecessary for people who aren’t already sick with something else.

Twostix
Twostix
October 21, 2021 8:42 am

There’s the unexplored thread that vaccine drives infection immediately after getting it.

Either through lowering immunity while your body becomes hijacked and turned into a covid factory and is busy with that nightmare, or worse.

It’d be good to see the number of people ‘positive’ in the two week window that they’re juiced up but categorized as ‘unvaccinated’ vs actual unvaccinated people.

Indolent
Indolent
October 21, 2021 8:42 am

I understand that, Indolent. What about the rest of it?

Walking along this morning, I popped myself into a parallel universe where Trump was still president, the “vaccines” had been rolled out to much derision and ree-ing and tried to imagine where we’d be now.

That was all.

But that’s the point. There was nothing they would not do, no step they would not take to prevent that and, at this point, they seem to have succeeded.

I remember well the night Trump won the election and we had to wait about 4 hours before the media would admit it. It couldn’t have been more obvious, even then in 2016, that they were floundering around looking for some way to overturn it. This time they were better prepared and succeeded. That was never going to happen.

Did you see this cartoon from the 1930s which was linked yesterday?

Looooonnnnggggggg time in the planning.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 21, 2021 8:45 am

In other words, for Covid to kill you, you have to be already sick.

That is true, to a point.
But many diabetics, for example, wouldn’t be considered “sick” in the normal sense of the word, and may have a ten-twenty year life expectancy without Kung Flu.

rosie
rosie
October 21, 2021 8:45 am

I was wondering when the yapping was going to start.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 21, 2021 8:47 am

callisays:

October 21, 2021 at 8:41 am

It’s clear from the US data that “vaccination” is completely unnecessary for people who aren’t already sick with something else.

Yes.
Those with certain conditions and over a certain age (somewhere around 60 – 70).

Twostix
Twostix
October 21, 2021 8:49 am

Interesting in the NSW hospitalization stats they clearly state that anyone who tests positive for covid, no matter why they are actually at the hospital: broken arm, ingrown toenail, is lumped in to the covid hospitalisation statistics.

Think of how much is hung off that statistic. Restrictions, lockdowns, and now mandatory vaccines are being ridden in on the back of one gajillion people in hospital with covid statistic.

Everywhere you look it’s lies.

rosie
rosie
October 21, 2021 8:49 am

Is it a fact that the perfectly well never get very sick with covid?
I don’t know if that is correct.

calli
calli
October 21, 2021 8:54 am

Well, there’s a 5% window in the US data (around 35,000) that might include “healthy” people. But keep in mind that obesity isn’t one of the listed co-morbidities in the data as presented in your link, rosie.

London to a brick, that’s the game changer for most of those people.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 21, 2021 8:54 am

Which beach is this Indolent?

rickw
rickw
October 21, 2021 8:55 am

wot is “aspiration”

Inserting the needle into the injection site, and then withdrawing the plunger slightly to see what is drawn in. If you get lots of blood then the tip of the needle is in a blood vessel and you need to withdraw the needle and try again.

I was speaking to one of our guys in Adelaide yesterday, one of the blokes there had his first Pfizer jab, no issues. He had his second one and immediately felt extremely ill and then spent the next 9 days in ICU. Direct injection into a blood vessel was the most likely cause.

I haven’t had a jab, so I don’t know what they are doing, but I’ll wager that a lot of the jabbers haven’t been properly trained on aspiration and it’s importance.

Bog standard government fuck up in progress.

Twostix
Twostix
October 21, 2021 8:57 am

Metro UK openly explaining the vaccine only lasts six months and that’s OK because boosters.

The Covid booster jab campaign is officially underway

Who could have predicted this??

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 21, 2021 9:01 am

I think that beach sign is a hoax Indolent.
It was on radio yesterday.

Dot
Dot
October 21, 2021 9:06 am

Everywhere you look it’s lies.

Exactly.

Notwithstanding the risk to elderly or unwell people, lumping in together otherwise well people needing emergency acute care, on 35-40+ cycles of the PCR tests, is just chicanery.

Bons
October 21, 2021 9:07 am

Ridiculous fat sugar daddy Johnson has teamed up with mega-fascist Gates.
For a few minutes of fellatio he is destroying the West.
Ban fat old pollies from hooking up with baby floozies.
The Conservatives have a huge majority. Surely there are enough grownups to get rid of this clown.

srr
srr
October 21, 2021 9:07 am

Twostix says:
October 21, 2021 at 8:33 am

Snopes, factcheck.org,the guardian, any port in a storm ay Rosie?

Yes, some Jab-Pushers & their ‘neutral’ pals went a bit silly for a while, claiming there were no Jab-Pushers here.

Funny how at least two of those Jab-Pushers bragged about their wisdom in personally investing in Biotech & Big Pharma and tried to get everyone else likewise personally invested.

People personally invested in products that the Worlds Govts have decided to force on everyone, are far less likely to even question, let alone see, the sinister intentions in their Govts diktats through the masses of fat appearing in their investment portfolios.

P
P
October 21, 2021 9:10 am

wot is “aspiration”

The continued failure of Official Science and Public Health is a very good vid from Dover – Oct 17.

mem says:
October 17, 2021 at 5:09 pm

Correct me if I’m wrong but my understanding from this interview is as follows: that by aspirating (pulling back) the plunger on the needle for 5-10 seconds the Dr/nurse can see if there is any blood and therefore know if a vein/blood vessel has been breached and therefore should not continue the injection at this site, as to do so risks that the MNRA vaccine will go directly into the blood stream, and even a miniscule amount of the MRNA vax which is comprised of nanoparticles, may cause some nasty problems as will migrate through blood system and attach who knows where. And that this aspect of the vaccines and what happens when directly inserted into blood stream has not been researched. And that the guidelines for administration of the new vaxines has not been updated to reflect this risk. Oh dear

!

Twostix
Twostix
October 21, 2021 9:11 am

Notafan having been an eager beaver covid Karen lined up first for her jabs is now walking around un-boosterised. Must be a worry.

And that is because Australians are only now being introduced to the already well established reality everywhere else that these ‘vaccines’ wear off after a few months.

So consider the politics at play, Australian s are being denied ‘boosters’ right now, because if they tell us you need ‘boosters’ after just six months it completely kills the “double jab” campaign underway to force Australians to get the ‘vaccine’. They know that people will simply walk away.

See how you’re in a highly manipulative campaign?

Top Ender
Top Ender
October 21, 2021 9:12 am

Fran Kelly leaves RN Breakfast after 17 years

Once described herself on radio along the lines of “basically, I’m an activist.”

What new horizons beckon?

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
October 21, 2021 9:13 am

‘I can’t look after you if you won’t get in the lifeboat.’

Unsure how welcoming your lifeboat is, Anna dear.

Interesting that the Palacechook morphed from Warrior Princess and Iron Border Protectoress to Lifeboat Hostie in the space of of less than a week.

Judging by the similar reactions from the NSW and Vic oblasts and the Silence of the CMO’s, you’d have to think some new public health information hasn’t yet been divulged to the public.

Possibly: ‘Sorry guys, herd immunity isn’t possible…’

calli
calli
October 21, 2021 9:16 am

‘I can’t look after you if you won’t get in the lifeboat.’

Unsure how welcoming your lifeboat is, Anna dear.

She’s mistaking the Titanic for a lifeboat.

Easy to do as it’s bigger.

rosie
rosie
October 21, 2021 9:16 am

Dear srr I’ve had enough of your equally preposterous and scurrilous innuendo and accusations and would appreciate it if you no longer addressed or referring to me in your comments, as both calli and cassie have done, I will return the favour by not addressing you in return. I’ve had enough of being accused of being a paid social media influencer in cahoots with the Andrews government, or having a financial interest in the vaccines and worse.

rosie
rosie
October 21, 2021 9:18 am

Yap yap yap, another Goebbels who thinks repeating the same lies will eventually make them true.

Dot
Dot
October 21, 2021 9:18 am

Possibly: ‘Sorry guys, herd immunity isn’t possible…’

If you need 80% herd immunity, the lower limit on vaccine efficacy is 80%, by definition.

The real world efficacy is between 30% and 60%.

You can’t vaccinate 133% or 266% of the population.

Twostix
Twostix
October 21, 2021 9:18 am

From the Pandemic Action Plan:

“At 70% introduce the public to the reality that you spent a year lying about the vaccines and they’re actually shit so everyone will have to have a booster every six months forever.

Some people will complain but remind them they accepted the vaccine passport system so now they have no choice in anything ever again and if they refuse they will become officially unvaccinated antivaxxers.”

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
October 21, 2021 9:19 am

Speaking of diabetics, how long before we are mandated to have the vaccine pumps permanently attached?

Indolent
Indolent
October 21, 2021 9:21 am

Which beach is this Indolent?

There’s a comment underneath saying the sign is fake and the Minister, Danny Pearson said he wasn’t aware of it so it must be someone’s idea of either a joke or a warning. Better not to give them ideas.

The poster’s comment is absolutely true though. Nobody is coming to save us.

Twostix
Twostix
October 21, 2021 9:22 am

Unboosterised notafan, now essentially unvaccinated, wandering around in public, a danger to herself and others.

Dear me what will ‘Dan’ say?

Bushkid
Bushkid
October 21, 2021 9:22 am

Knuckle Dragger says:
October 21, 2021 at 7:35 am
Anna, the Supreme Queenslander, on Skah:

‘I can’t look after you if you won’t get in the lifeboat.’

Unsure how welcoming your lifeboat is, Anna dear.

This Queenslander is NOT interested in getting into any lifeboat that old Anna is rowing!

WTF makes her think it’s her job to “look after” me anyway? I’ve been doing just fine for over 60 years without her meddling and interference.

calli
calli
October 21, 2021 9:24 am

You don’t need to buy in to Struggle Sessions, you know.

I made the mistake of doing it last week, then realised how toxic it is. No wonder the CCP and others found the technique so useful to demoralise wrong-thinkers. By now regular readers of the blog should know pretty well what your thinking is on most subjects, and particularly those surrounding the latest efforts to crunch us under the heel of the state.

As new information comes to light, it’s great to discuss it and maybe change some of our thinking. That’s what rational people do, because we can’t all be right about everything. No need to be catechised every time you comment, or feel the need to offer up some sort of manifesto.

rosie
rosie
October 21, 2021 9:25 am

Really that’s the best you can come up with?
Tell us more about how Queenslanders weekending in Queensland hotels had saved the Queensland tourism industry.

Bear Necessities
Bear Necessities
October 21, 2021 9:28 am

Fran Kelly leaves RN Breakfast after 17 years

Once described herself on radio along the lines of “basically, I’m an activist.”

What new horizons beckon?

From what I remember she blocks out the horizon!

lotocoti
lotocoti
October 21, 2021 9:33 am

Unless I’m missing something, PLA Inc’s “hypersonic missile” is just a MIRV strapped to something speedy enough to put it into an orbital path, as opposed to a ballistic one.
It’s not the gadget Lex Luthor pinched to improve his real estate investments.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
October 21, 2021 9:33 am

With over two thousand cases today, Dan has now surpassed NSW in total pandemic cases.
As he would say “Something all Victorians should be proud of.”

Gab
Gab
October 21, 2021 9:34 am

Please share it everywhere??? And please sing if you haven’t already done so.
Petition EN3411 – Condemn Public Policy Vaccination Program for ALL Australians

Petition Reason
Every Australian child, adult and the wider community are the Australian citizens who run this country. The politicians were elected to serve us to govern this country as a Free and United democracy.

Petition Request
We therefore ask the House to condemn the recent direction of public policy regarding vaccination and the public health officials scapegoating the unvaccinated as being responsible for disease outbreaks when vaccine failure provides a more plausible explanation. We want the vaccination program and the restrictions placed scrapped from Australia for all Australian Citizens, businesses and society. We are opposed to the human rights ‘dialogue’ model being promoted by the government and its official which amounts to coercion, bullying, fear, bribes and corruption. We want the COVID-19 pandemic state of emergency lifted now. We all say no to the restrictions placed upon us, the police brutality and brute force placed upon our human rights. We demand the resignation of all state premiers, the prime minister and our government. We ask for an immediate enquiry into the legislative overreach of force used by government officials as directives, and the definitions of such in Australian law that are placed on Police and our Constitutional Army to undertake. investigate immediately the ruling of governance on peaceful citizens to shoot them with rubber bullets and unlawful force as a crime against humanity. We need our rights of free speech to debate this topic as it’s time reference is unreasonable to the length of these restrictions have been placed. No more silence or harassment.

Closing date for signatures: 17 November 2021 11:59 PM (AEST)

https://www.aph.gov.au/e-petitions/petition/EN3411?fbclid=IwAR3JM2bpnH2wICJxiJUsmftuKmvKL4gd-3xfjD7783glbPDu_5p1bvHhvDg

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 21, 2021 9:34 am

‘I can’t look after you if you won’t get in the lifeboat.’

Unsure how welcoming your lifeboat is, Anna dear.

Not for me thanks, Pole-Mole.
I will be looking at SS Fiji or SS Bali before getting on the tramp steamer Queensland.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
October 21, 2021 9:35 am

‘The hardest decision I’ve ever had to make’: Fran Kelly leaves RN Breakfast after 17 years

Not the hardest decision. Just the first new idea.

This was probably the most agonising change to her life since someone told her that almond milk existed.

I note where they send the aging beast to pasture – election reporting. Where she will again be spared new ideas.

Gab
Gab
October 21, 2021 9:35 am

Sign ….. not sing.

Good grief!

Tom
Tom
October 21, 2021 9:41 am

You don’t need to buy in to Struggle Sessions, you know.
I made the mistake of doing it last week, then realised how toxic it is.

It’s a well-tried tactic in totalitarian countries, Calli. In the 1980s when I was there, if, as a foreigner, you strayed into an area the Chinese government didn’t want you in, your ticket out of jail was to write a “self-criticism”. Having confessed to the Public Security Bureau you were a bad person, you were set free.

It’s similar to the humiliation system currently underway in Australia for anyone questioning the government’s botched response to Kung Flu: shut up, get the jab and the government won’t destroy your life.

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 21, 2021 9:41 am

lotocotisays:
October 21, 2021 at 9:33 am
Unless I’m missing something, PLA Inc’s “hypersonic missile” is just a MIRV strapped to something speedy enough to put it into an orbital path, as opposed to a ballistic one.

The FOBS (Fractional Orbital Bombardment System) concept has been around since at least the 1970s.One possible reason that it hasn’t gone very far might be additional difficulties in achieving accuracy.

Bushkid
Bushkid
October 21, 2021 9:41 am

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha says:
October 21, 2021 at 12:51 am
FlyingPigs says:
October 21, 2021 at 12:44 am
Flying Pigs, just asking, your callsign anything to do with the old F -111?

Sad to think of the F-111 as “old”. And gone.

Same for the Huey.

Still reminiscing, I recall seeing the last of the Mirages at Amberley in the 1970s. A very pretty bird.

Gab
Gab
October 21, 2021 9:42 am

What are the ages of those 12 who died in Victoria allegedly of the virus?

Zipster
Zipster
October 21, 2021 9:48 am

It’s a well-tried tactic in totalitarian countries, Calli. In the 1980s when I was there, if, as a foreigner, you strayed into an area the Chinese government didn’t want you in, your ticket out of jail was to write a “self-criticism”. Having confessed to the Public Security Bureau you were a bad person, you were set free.

twitter just did the same to me, suspended my account, told me I had to agree that I was wrong and had to delete the offending tweet to allow my account to be reinstated and warned if I did it again I would be digitally assassinated.

welcome to the century of fascism.

jupes
jupes
October 21, 2021 9:51 am

‘The hardest decision I’ve ever had to make’: Fran Kelly leaves RN Breakfast after 17 years

Yeah right. No one will be surprised that Frank hasn’t actually left the teat.

Kelly isn’t leaving the ABC and will continue to play a key role, including in federal election coverage, continuing as co-host of the popular political podcast, The Party Room, and working on other projects that will be announced next year.

jupes
jupes
October 21, 2021 9:52 am

Thanks for the Nelson post TE. What a great man.

Rorschach
Rorschach
October 21, 2021 9:53 am

Judging by the similar reactions from the NSW and Vic oblasts and the Silence of the CMO’s, you’d have to think some new public health information hasn’t yet been divulged to the public.

This

I am left scratching my head too. Less than a month ago Stairman was shooting people in the park for not wearing a mask and not social distancing; and Pony Girl was preventing kids from travelling 20 klicks across a border to get life saving treatment…

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-09-07/plea-for-toddler-to-cross-qld-border-for-crucial-medical-tests/100440054

And not one meeja question to the [all of a sudden rarely appearing] CHOs along the lines of: Why did your draconian rules suddenly change and do you agree?

If I was to guess, I’d say that there is swathe of studies coming out [from Sweden / Japan etc] that show lockdowns are useless and possibly even contribute to the infection rates. Or that the no treatment allowed – just get intubated and die – policy will be shown to be contributing to the death tolls and malpractice. All Health recommendations! Finger Pointing Time!

Delta A
Delta A
October 21, 2021 9:54 am

Tomsays:
October 21, 2021 at 8:01 am

That made me laugh, Tom, but only for a moment.

There’s nothing funny about a military that has forgotten its purpose.

srr
srr
October 21, 2021 9:55 am

The Knitting Ladies* get together –

‘Bitch keeps quoting us back, in full, in context.
People are noticing that we’re the pack of bullshitters who keep repeating the same lies.
What do we do if we can’t get her banned?’

‘Spit out some more bullshit and deny her any right of reply.
Insist that any correction of our bullshit be branded, “harassment”, and plead to make it a banning offence.’

All this is a continued diversion from the fact of those here pushing Jabs.
Those who back at Sinc’s now long dead cat also boasted of their investment in Big Pharma & Biotech and tried very hard to get others likewise committed to the industries Global/ist Govts are mandating everyone must use.

Anyway, this is a good thing.
Now when ‘The Knitting Ladies*’ remind me of how they work, I’ll just write about that.
If some still insist on taking it personally we’ll simply have them confirming that they see themselves as ‘Knitting Ladies*’.

*Not sex or gender exclusive. Simply descriptive of a particular ‘class’.

twostix
twostix
October 21, 2021 9:55 am

Tell us more about how Queenslanders weekending in Queensland hotels had saved the Queensland tourism industry.

Nah it’s not queenslanders alone, it’s tens of thousands of non-queenslanders who snuck up here over the last six months.

Mostly Victorians.

Arky
October 21, 2021 9:55 am

I haven’t had a jab, so I don’t know what they are doing, but I’ll wager that a lot of the jabbers haven’t been properly trained on aspiration and it’s importance.

Bog standard government fuck up in progress.

..
Pink Batts in your veins.

twostix
twostix
October 21, 2021 9:56 am

“The best I can come up with” is a simple appraisal of reality.

The vaccines wear off after six months, this is being hailed from every major newspaper in the world – bar Australia.

You got yours six months ago.

Hello? McFly??

Zipster
Zipster
October 21, 2021 9:57 am

She’s mistaking the Titanic for a lifeboat.

+1 you beat me to it

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 21, 2021 9:58 am

Indolentsays:

October 21, 2021 at 9:21 am

Which beach is this Indolent?

There’s a comment underneath saying the sign is fake and the Minister, Danny Pearson said he wasn’t aware of it so it must be someone’s idea of either a joke or a warning. Better not to give them ideas.

So why post it when the headline photo is bullshit?
FFS, there are plenty of examples of ridiculous real restrictions without making shit up.
All this stuff does is feed the “crazy anti-vaxxers” narrative.
Which is exactly how it was used yesterday on radio.

lotocoti
lotocoti
October 21, 2021 9:58 am

‘I can’t look after you if you won’t get in the lifeboat.’

Hey Anna, you couldn’t look after me 364 days ago.

Rabz
October 21, 2021 9:58 am

Kelly isn’t leaving the ALPBC and will continue to play a key role, including in federal election coverage, continuing as co-host of the popular political podcast, The Party Room, and working on other projects that will be announced next year

Just another unflushable turd livin’ large at taxpayers’ expense, in other words. By their insufferable smugness, you shall know (and be repulsed by) them.

Rorschach
Rorschach
October 21, 2021 10:00 am

Possibly: ‘Sorry guys, herd immunity isn’t possible…’

On the contrary – we can only rely on herd immunity to fix this.

Sweden is a great example – they barely registered any Delta case and did not even have a death rate blip with Delta after May/June … [It looks like that COVID went through the population over winter and spring there… and they have a total death toll from COVID (as they protected the elderly and vulnerable) lower than US and UK! Herd immunity works.]

srr
srr
October 21, 2021 10:07 am

Twostix says:
October 21, 2021 at 9:18 am

From the Pandemic Action Plan:

“At 70% introduce the public to the reality that you spent a year lying about the vaccines and they’re actually shit so everyone will have to have a booster every six months forever.

Some people will complain but remind them they accepted the vaccine passport system so now they have no choice in anything ever again and if they refuse they will become officially unvaccinated antivaxxers.”
***

Yes and it also astounds me that despite the self appointed watcher of all posts Jew/Israel related (and all the rest who bow to their self appointed ‘supreme authority’ on all things Jew/Israel related), that they so happily ignore the, Mandated, 3 Jabs or you are NOT Jabbed, rising to 4 and continued 3 to 6 monthly boosters, happening in Israel.

srr
srr
October 21, 2021 10:15 am

lotocoti says:
October 21, 2021 at 9:33 am

Unless I’m missing something, PLA Inc’s “hypersonic missile” is just a MIRV strapped to something speedy enough to put it into an orbital path, as opposed to a ballistic one.
It’s not the gadget Lex Luthor pinched to improve his real estate investments.

Yes, there are a LOT of ‘Western*’ Powers heavily invested in presenting ‘China’ as an, ‘imminent threat to the world that MUST be PLACATED.’
It’s how they get away with pushing through so many of their own evils.

* Technically ‘Western’ while being so far removed from Christendom that blessed The West, as to be Anti-Christ.

Dot
Dot
October 21, 2021 10:17 am

Just writing a new ditty.

Pink Batts
Your pink Batts running through my veins
I don’t wanna break
these PCR chains

Winston Smith
October 21, 2021 10:20 am

rickw:

I haven’t had a jab, so I don’t know what they are doing, but I’ll wager that a lot of the jabbers haven’t been properly trained on aspiration and it’s importance.

I’ve given thousands of injections, and only ever gotten one blood flashback on aspiration.
Yes, we are supposed to do it but I’ve noticed it not be done that much any more.
OTOH, if the needle goes through a vein and passes beyond (rough guess 1/5 times) the muscle/fatty tissue will be immediately sucked into the tip and no flashback will occur. However when the needle is withdrawn, there is a track leading out – under pressure – and that pressure will force some of the fluid into a vein.
Veins being relatively low pressure in comparison to arteries it’s easy to imagine the scenario of ‘no flashback’ but a major portion of the drug has gone into venous circulation back to the heart. By now, it should be pretty damn dilute, but still it’s a connection.
I don’t know if concentrations of the ‘vaxxine’ in the Right atria & ventricle have been done as this would necessitate a Peripherally Inserted Cardiac Catheter – I’ve had several and they ain’t pleasant.

P
P
October 21, 2021 10:21 am
twostix
twostix
October 21, 2021 10:21 am

As new information comes to light, it’s great to discuss it and maybe change some of our thinking. That’s what rational people do, because we can’t all be right about everything. No need to be catechised every time you comment, or feel the need to offer up some sort of manifesto.

As night follows day here it comes. “I don’t want to talk about it anymore”.

Hey what changed Calli?

Oh. Right.

In a situation, the very week, where the entire state apparatus have declared open war with people who haven’t had the vaccine, mass media are describing us as “roadkill” and people are casually explaining that we must and will be annihilated and run out of society forever without mercy, I think we can have a little bit of a robust defence of ourselves when people who have capitulated, or, worse, are covid karens pretending to be ‘reasonable’ are here saying “hey it’s no big deal”. When they’re relentlessly mouthing the exact same ‘arguments’ that our persecutors are, to every reason we say we’re not taking the vaccine.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 21, 2021 10:23 am

Is Frank Elly the least qualified comrade at the ALPBC staff co-op with no real life experience ?

Does it matter?

calli
calli
October 21, 2021 10:23 am

Pi55 off Twostix. Went through all this last week.

Find a new victim.

Winston Smith
October 21, 2021 10:24 am

Calli:

She’s mistaking the Titanic for a lifeboat.
Easy to do as it’s bigger.

Ha Ha!

calli
calli
October 21, 2021 10:25 am

Victim was the wrong word.

Subject of Fixation is probably more accurate.

srr
srr
October 21, 2021 10:30 am

Rorschach says:
October 21, 2021 at 9:53 am

Judging by the similar reactions from the NSW and Vic oblasts and the Silence of the CMO’s, you’d have to think some new public health information hasn’t yet been divulged to the public.

This

I am left scratching my head too. Less than a month ago Stairman was shooting people in the park for not wearing a mask and not social distancing; and Pony Girl was preventing kids from travelling 20 klicks across a border to get life saving treatment…

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-09-07/plea-for-toddler-to-cross-qld-border-for-crucial-medical-tests/100440054

And not one meeja question to the [all of a sudden rarely appearing] CHOs along the lines of: Why did your draconian rules suddenly change and do you agree?

If I was to guess, I’d say that there is swathe of studies coming out [from Sweden / Japan etc] that show lockdowns are useless and possibly even contribute to the infection rates. Or that the no treatment allowed – just get intubated and die – policy will be shown to be contributing to the death tolls and malpractice. All Health recommendations! Finger Pointing Time!

Funny, but I think telling people not to take Aspirin was a major overstep of The Dictators.

mRMA, Ivermectin, etc. were not things people were comfortable arguing with ‘experts’, but coming after Aspirin that’s been a family household first aid staple for generations and used as a blood thinner to prevent stroke & heart attack blood clots that the Jabs are known to cause, well that’s something that people do feel comfortable arguing from generations of lived experience … and suddenly they are wondering about the other things they’ve heard …

Top Ender
Top Ender
October 21, 2021 10:30 am

If I was to guess, I’d say that there is swathe of studies coming out [from Sweden / Japan etc] that show lockdowns are useless

Nope. There are instead a heap of advisers pointing out to Chairman Dan and Pony Girl that the number of people screaming about “danger, danger, danger we’re all going to die” is now outweighed by the people saying “we’re sick of lockdowns.” So change or lose office.

I suppose it’s mob politics.

Arky
October 21, 2021 10:33 am

Nanna wriggler alert!

Roger
Roger
October 21, 2021 10:36 am

If I was to guess, I’d say that there is swathe of studies coming out [from Sweden / Japan etc] that show lockdowns are useless

The only studies politicians pay attention to are polls.

P
P
October 21, 2021 10:36 am
Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 21, 2021 10:36 am

Nah it’s not queenslanders alone, it’s tens of thousands of non-queenslanders who snuck up here over the last six months.

Did you see the numbers I posted yesterday?
In 2018, Queensland had 2,800,000 international visitors.
The average length of stay was 8.4 nights.
That is 23,000,000 hotel nights in total.
It would require 63,000 filthy Mexicans to stay in hotels 365 days a year to take up that slack. And they would be unlikely to go to Wally World every week.
That is before we take into account lost tourism from the rest of Australia.
But, hey, if you’re comfortable spouting the PalaceChook and Miles line that Queensland tourism is all peachy, go right ahead.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 21, 2021 10:38 am

Today’s takeaway from the musings of Twostix:-
Victorian Boomers Save Queensland Tourism!

rickw
rickw
October 21, 2021 10:40 am

If your police force has armoured vehicles, you don’t have a societal problem, you have a government problem.

areff
areff
October 21, 2021 10:40 am

Saancho: That’s one way of looking at the bogus sign. The other is that neither the minister nor his bureaucrats had a clue if it was genuine or not, which is a telling example of just how loonytunes things have become in Victoria.

https://quadrant.org.au/sign-of-the-times-2/

custard
custard
October 21, 2021 10:42 am

Australia’s medical system:
Had a medical procedure yesterday. *
Checked in at 9.00am
Wheeled into pre-op 12.00pm
Still in pre-op 1.30pm…WTF is going on?
Sorry there has been an emergency (at a private hospital?)
Taken out of pre-op
Assured rescheduled for 3.27pm
Still there at 4.00pm!
Within seconds of me deciding that I’m out of here curtains brushed aside
Wheeled back into pre-op
Wheeled into surgery at 4.30pm

PS:Nurse Zoie tells me her shift started at 2.30pm. She left this morning at 7.30am

*anterior cervical dysectomy (with fusion) C6-C7

rickw
rickw
October 21, 2021 10:45 am

FDA Approves Mix n Match Booster Shots For Everyone – Pick a Jab, Any Jab
October 20, 2021 | Sundance

I’m no expert, but if you mix different oils in different engines, infrequently, weird and bad shit can happen. Enough! Just shut up and follow da science!

Arky
October 21, 2021 10:46 am

*anterior cervical dysectomy (with fusion) C6-C7

..
I could have done that for you in the shed.

lotocoti
lotocoti
October 21, 2021 10:48 am

I wonder if the omniscient they have ever considered DNA testing
the entire population of a reasonably sized town, just to see how close their
headline grabbing case numbers are to the actual number of people
who’ve danced with the ChiComPox.

MatrixTransform
October 21, 2021 10:51 am

Is it a fact that the perfectly well never get very sick with covid?
I don’t know if that is correct.

what is it, Spock
It appears, Captain that we are inside a massive Incredulity Vortex

Winston Smith
October 21, 2021 10:53 am

Arky:

I could have done that for you in the shed.

With the Leetle Girl assisting, yes?

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
October 21, 2021 10:54 am

Did you see this cartoon from the 1930s which was linked yesterday?

No I didn’t and I’m glad I had one more day of blissful ignorance.
But Shirley that is a 2021 production dressed up as a ’30s cartoon. Because every single word describes the WuFlu Scare with amazing accuracy.

MatrixTransform
October 21, 2021 10:54 am

Beach access restricted to vaccinated only.

I might laminate my own signs for the beach.

… Caution: Communists have been spotted in this area disguised as Polis

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 21, 2021 10:55 am

anterior cervical dysectomy (with fusion) C6-C7

All the best for a full recovery, custard.

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
October 21, 2021 10:58 am

Top Ender thanks very much for the Nelson piece. His story bears repeating to all denizens of Western civilisation. (PS has the Kismet/Kiss me controversy been settled?)
Keep up your good work.

rosie
rosie
October 21, 2021 10:59 am

Spanish influenza struck down the young and healthy but now it’s an infallible fact that the young and healthy never get extremely unwell from covid and they never ever die.

I seem to remember last year various people running around saying the cdc stats provided conclusive proof that 94% of covid fatalities had comorbities including obesity therefore only 6% (otherwise healthy) actually died of covid.

custard
custard
October 21, 2021 10:59 am

I haven’t eaten anything for 37 hours. Do they offer a mixed grill?

MatrixTransform
October 21, 2021 10:59 am

As he would say “Something all Victorians should be proud of.”

was always a one-horse race
fuck we’re good

Arky
October 21, 2021 11:04 am

but now it’s an infallible fact that the young and healthy never get extremely unwell from covid and they never ever die.

..
Covid:
https://www.health.gov.au/resources/covid-19-deaths-by-age-group-and-sex
..
Spanisg influenza:
https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/british-actuarial-journal/article/agedependence-of-the-1918-pandemic/3BCBF4BDFBD8C5F0F4FBFDF34DF42209
(SCROLL DOWN TO THE CHART)..
UNDERSTAND NOW???!

MatrixTransform
October 21, 2021 11:04 am

and warned if I did it again I would be digitally assassinated

in about 2015 I digitally suicided myself

calli
calli
October 21, 2021 11:04 am

IArky says:
October 21, 2021 at 10:33 am
Nanna wriggler alert!

Lol. That would be the new mutation.

Class Enemy Nanna Wrigglers.

Activated by excessive and unexpected O’Briening.

Arky
October 21, 2021 11:07 am

I’m getting a tad testy with you Rosie because these pricks are now coming for our children with these jabs in their never endingly moving dishonest agenda.

rosie
rosie
October 21, 2021 11:08 am
Eyrie
Eyrie
October 21, 2021 11:14 am

The Chicom hypersonic/FOBS test may not have occurred.

https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/essays-and-commentaries/did-china-test-a-hypersonic-weapon-in-august/

Bob Zimmerman runs a pretty nice space site

rosie
rosie
October 21, 2021 11:14 am

What’s that got to do with me Arky?
I’ll tell you.
Nothing.
I’m as much responsible for the government response to the pandemic as you are.
Seems too many of you want this forum to be an anti vaxxers echo chamber which in my book makes you exactly the same as the the people you supposedly despise.

You could have stayed with the like minded over at Adam’s but seems like when certain people left you had to come with your incessant personal attacks over here (not directed at you Arky).

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
October 21, 2021 11:15 am

Welcome to the club Custard

Eddystone
Eddystone
October 21, 2021 11:16 am

Thanks for that great read about Admiral Nelson, Top Ender.

custard
custard
October 21, 2021 11:17 am

FMD
They just brought in a tray of melon, yoghurt and weetbix.

I told them to take it all back. Being replaced with scrambled eggs, bacon and baked beans.

Eddystone
Eddystone
October 21, 2021 11:18 am

I believe the older people had lower mortality from the Spanish flu than younger people because they had survived a flu epidemic in the 1890s, and had some cross immunity.

That would never work today, of course!

custard
custard
October 21, 2021 11:18 am

Did you get a good outcome GreyRanga?

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 21, 2021 11:18 am

I haven’t eaten anything for 37 hours. Do they offer a mixed grill?

Ask to see the wine list.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 21, 2021 11:19 am

I don’t think Mike Baird will be on the Glad Bag’s Christmas card list this year.

Eddystone
Eddystone
October 21, 2021 11:20 am

custard says:
October 21, 2021 at 11:17 am

FMD
They just brought in a tray of melon, yoghurt and weetbix.

They probably thought you were on the diabetic diet, judging by what they feed diabetics in South Australian hospitals.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 21, 2021 11:22 am

Hospital food is an acquired taste. Maybe see if you can get a PEG to solve the problem.

Arky
October 21, 2021 11:25 am

What’s that got to do with me Arky?

..
I’m attempting to do you the courtesy of responding to your questions about the figures we’ve been looking at on covid and the vaxxes, but every time I do, you wriggle away from the point I’m making with trivial responses.
It’s annoying.
For example, you ask:

How is older people being vaccinated and being less likely to need hospital care or dying transferring the risk to younger people?

..
I respond that it’s the mandate for those who really have little risk of death from covid. You then latch onto the ONE word which might be contrued as a bit of poetic license of poetic hyperbole to make a point in order to ignore the real response.
We are working from a lot of different and very incomplete data sets to attempt to see the picture and communicate it.
The real question is this: why are they making it so hard for people to work out their real risks from covid and covid vaccines? Why the mandates?

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 21, 2021 11:27 am

If you are in Fiona Stanley Hospital see if you can go down to the basement where all the autonomous carts race around without any humans required at all.

areff
areff
October 21, 2021 11:30 am

Finally, the Silly notices that highly vaccinated nations — in this instance, England — get walloped when protection diminshes and the WuFlu comes surging back.

https://www.smh.com.au/world/europe/fading-vaccine-immunity-threatens-britain-s-covid-co-existence-freedoms-20211021-p591so.html

A month or so from now, SMH journos’ being a bit slow on the uptake, will wonder what all this means for Australia,

(and then they’ll hit the RoloDex for their favourite, habitually wrong, celebrity epidemiologists, who will say that rolling up for endless boo0sters is ‘the right thing to do’)

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
October 21, 2021 11:31 am

Gabsays:
October 21, 2021 at 9:34 am
Please share it everywhere??? And please sing if you haven’t already done so.
Petition EN3411 – Condemn Public Policy Vaccination Program for ALL Australians

Signed as well as singed.

Arky
October 21, 2021 11:32 am

This is a fair and reaonable question, the answering of which moves us all towards understanding the problem:

How is older people being vaccinated and being less likely to need hospital care or dying transferring the risk to younger people?

..
The other is that weirdness between vaxxed and unvaxxed bleeding onto this blog and pissing everyone off:

but I don’t think you can claim no-one aged between 20 and 29 would ever get very sick from covid.

Arky
October 21, 2021 11:33 am

Or maybe I’m just extra crotchety this morning.

Fair Shake
Fair Shake
October 21, 2021 11:33 am

Eddystone says:
October 21, 2021 at 11:16 am
Thanks for that great read about Admiral Nelson, Top Ender.

Full agree. a great read.

struth
struth
October 21, 2021 11:34 am

Facts.
The vaccines are totally useless.
They do not work.
They were never supposed to.
If they had, society could not be divided.
Digital control could not be introduced.
Lies and confusion, ……so absolute and yet the gullible think could not possibly be , are such that no one can prove Covid exists, no one questions the PCR tests , which have been proven useless.

So for a disease that has the same symptoms as the yearly flus, (which have mysteriously disappeared) no one, not the Alberta Government can prove it exists.
Politicised so called scientific papers can claim it but no one can prove it in a court of law!

So governments in conjunction with the big corps that control them, and the globalist orgs like WEF, who are one in the same, dribble endless shit to frighten the easily spooked, and people take a jab to help bring down the human population of the world.
The evil of Eugenics.
And two years later this blog is still consumed by headless hysterical chooks screaming around the yard about the sniffles.
Total insanity.
Meanwhile…………………………….

Those that are now realising they let the side down because being double vaxxed means nothing, have decided they don’t want to be held up to be ridiculed and we should just shut up about it.
If double vaxxed freed them, they’d still be convincing themselves by trying to convince others that they did the right thing and covid is deadly.

The Narrative is crumbling and they are realising they will never be jabbed enough to be free, but because they submitted to tyranny in the first place, they’ll need to be jabbed until they are dead.
By submitting and allowing them to bring in a vaccine passport, how many others have you killed?
Serious question.
How many millions may it be in the long run?
Were the Germans of 1930’s Germany that went along to get along, responsible in any way for what was to follow?
FUCKING OATH THEY WERE.
I’ll probably end up in Toowoomba dead, but I’ll go to my grave knowing no one else’s death will be on my head.
No innocent anyway.

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
October 21, 2021 11:35 am

I seem to remember last year various people running around saying the cdc stats provided conclusive proof that 94% of covid fatalities had comorbities including obesity therefore only 6% (otherwise healthy) actually died of covid.

If “comorbidities” include being already older than average life expectancy, I’d say that looked quite plausible.

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
October 21, 2021 11:36 am

Custard, best wishes for a speedy and full recovery.
Your story reminded me of Mrs OSC’s experience on Monday with a surgery at the local private hospital. She was met at the reception desk by 2 of the most officious, rude, aggressive and dismissive clerks and a similarly demotivated nurse.
In any other circumstances we would have walked away immediately. Comfort with the surgeon and his abilities kept us there.

Razey
Razey
October 21, 2021 11:38 am

struthsays:
October 21, 2021 at 11:34 am
Facts.
The vaccines are totally useless.
They do not work.

I agree and am holding out.

But the mob has spoken, so I will be hounded and treated poorly by a society I no longer want to be part of.

The only hope we have is what we dont want, and that is a substantial death toll this winter in the northern hemisphere that they wont be able to hide.

Sucks to be us!

Zipster
Zipster
October 21, 2021 11:41 am

*anterior cervical dysectomy (with fusion) C6-C7

..
I could have done that for you in the shed.

fires up the tactical chainsaw

Rorschach
Rorschach
October 21, 2021 11:42 am

If I was to guess, I’d say that there is swathe of studies coming out [from Sweden / Japan etc] that show lockdowns are useless
The only studies politicians pay attention to are polls.

Well the polls are going to be driven by those now choosing to listen to the likes of Joe Rogan; Russell Brand; Dr John etc [who will only go more viral …].

Zipster
Zipster
October 21, 2021 11:43 am

Let us not forget how utterly evil is the CCP

They’ll take your liver and you won’t even know’: China’s real-life Squid Game: How organs are harvested from THOUSANDS every week for a ‘kill to order’ market – and why the world is powerless to stop it
China has a real-life Squid Game harvesting the organs of political dissidents
Thousands of prisoners are slaughtered for hearts, kidneys, livers and corneas
UN experts recently released a statement about the ‘kill to order’ organ program
But the international community are powerless to stop the terrifying trade

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
October 21, 2021 11:43 am

We are working from a lot of different and very incomplete data sets to attempt to see the picture and communicate it.

This is of zero interest to rosie and the rest who have accepted that the government consists of responsible, competent ppl who live only to look after us and protect us from harm.

Zipster
Zipster
October 21, 2021 11:44 am

But the mob has spoken, so I will be hounded and treated poorly by a society I no longer want to be part of.

Better to die on your feet than live on your knees

Shy Ted
Shy Ted
October 21, 2021 11:46 am

Woolworths has mandated jabs for all employees. You know what to do. Boycott. Couple of weeks should do it. They’re welcoming unvaxxed shoppers. Woolworths science.

lotocoti
lotocoti
October 21, 2021 11:47 am

custard says:
October 21, 2021 at 10:42 am

More or less my experience, December 21 last year*.
Took to the getaway sticks when bumped,
followed by a stern talking to by the formidable Sister Mel,
until I managed to get a word in edgewise.
*Micro Transcatheter Pacemaker-a standard PPM was in for only 14 days
before it had to be hastily yeeted, because reasons.

Rorschach
Rorschach
October 21, 2021 11:47 am

In other NEWS – looks like Trump media is not too far away.

https://twitter.com/santucci/status/1450982968093253632?s=21

[TRUTH Social ?]

Baba
Baba
October 21, 2021 11:48 am

Woolworths has mandated jabs for all employees. You know what to do. Boycott.

BWS. Dan’s. Noooo!

Dot
Dot
October 21, 2021 11:52 am

I seem to remember last year various people running around saying the cdc stats provided conclusive proof that 94% of covid fatalities had comorbities including obesity therefore only 6% (otherwise healthy) actually died of covid.

The reason why we quoted that ad nauseum is because the CDC purports to tell the truth.

Eddystone
Eddystone
October 21, 2021 11:52 am

accepted that the government consists of responsible, competent ppl who live only to look after us and protect us from harm.

Passing the many covid warning signs in hospitals, or observing doctors, nurses and ambos scurrying around with masks on, I occasionally get the weird feeling that I have stumbled onto the set of a dystopian movie.

Most of my soon-to-be-former colleagues at least say it is bullshit, even as they slavishly obey the mask and sign in rules.

But so many people are convinced the government is acting in their best interests and has done a good job keeping SA “covid free”.

struth
struth
October 21, 2021 11:54 am

Every time you allow yourself to be scanned to enter, to show your papers, and you QR code yourself to separate you from us, you accept the little pats on the head from tyrants, and go along to get along you make me sick.
Surely you should expect that.
The people you have made enemies of, are the righteous and the thinkers.
Have a fucking jab with an untested concoction from know Eugenic billionaires who want to save the planet by killing billions, I have done my duty to my fellow man and screamed don’t do it as loudly as I could, here on these blogs and in the real world.
You can’t deny that.
But when you show your permission slip of submission to get what the righteous cannot, you are then a POS.
An enemy of freedom and Australia.
A disaster for your children.
You know it, and that’s why you don’t want to hear about it.
If you had to get the jab for some family emergency, to travel, are you still using your “passport”
How many will your actions kill, or ….Wie viele werden deine Handlungen töten?

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 21, 2021 11:57 am

Top Ender

Nope. There are instead a heap of advisers pointing out to Chairman Dan and Pony Girl that the number of people screaming about “danger, danger, danger we’re all going to die” is now outweighed by the people saying “we’re sick of lockdowns.” So change or lose office.

I suppose it’s mob politics.

Expect to see a series of meeja articles touting the wisdom of “experts”, and decrying the evils of populism, in the next few days, to re-set the ever so precious “narrative”.

calli
calli
October 21, 2021 11:57 am

My dentist is flying out to South Africa on Tuesday to visit family.

They appear to be free-er than Australia.

I wonder if they’ll resurrect segregation or have they had enough already.

Dot
Dot
October 21, 2021 11:57 am

struth

I am not getting vaccinated.

I am scanning in at Woolies.

I am not getting arrested to buy some tea.

Nor I am I going to disobey the rules at a small business. One $5000 fine with very poor retail sales might be enough to trigger insolvency.

I do not want to bring that on them.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 21, 2021 12:00 pm

areffsays:
October 21, 2021 at 10:40 am
Saancho: That’s one way of looking at the bogus sign. The other is that neither the minister nor his bureaucrats had a clue if it was genuine or not, which is a telling example of just how loonytunes things have become in Victoria.

Yes, true.
The minister in question (Danny Pearson) is particularly dull, even by Hunchback Ministry standards.
But there are plenty of the examples of bullshit regulations without the need to invent them.
Nanny Neil just saying that “they are scrambling to get the roadmap finalised”.
WTF?
Like you weren’t tweaking this weeks and months ago.
To be fair, a bunch of mid-ranking Elf bureaucrats probably wrote the thing weeks ago, and what we are seeing this week is all Hunchback’s millenial advisors seeing Covid behind every tree and red-penning the rules every ten minutes.
Coincidentally, they always seem to strike at an industry where someone has just recently had a crack at Maximum Leader.

Baba
Baba
October 21, 2021 12:04 pm

struth

I am not getting vaccinated.

I am not scanning in at Woolies. I wave my phone in front of the QR code as I do at every mega business.

I wear my mask but in an incorrect manner.

I am not getting arrested to buy some tomatoes.

I do not disobey the rules at a small business. One $5000 fine with very poor retail sales might be enough to trigger insolvency.

I do not want to bring that on them.

Megan
Megan
October 21, 2021 12:05 pm

Seems too many of you want this forum to be an anti vaxxers echo chamber which in my book makes you exactly the same as the the people you supposedly despise.

Ignorance writ exceedingly small.

MatrixTransform
October 21, 2021 12:09 pm

Spoke to a mate yesterday.

They have 3x twenty footers paid for and stacked at point of origin
Been there a couple of months and they aren’t going nowhere.
That’s a quarter of a million bucks parked.

cost of a twenny footer was usually about 3 to 3.5k, now its pushing $14k

His guess, next year will see 30% on everything

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 21, 2021 12:10 pm

custardsays:

October 21, 2021 at 11:17 am

FMD
They just brought in a tray of melon, yoghurt and weetbix.

WTF?
My last visit to hospital was in 2015 for a bit of plumbing refurbishment.
Dinner consisted of red jelly, red wine and morphine every night.
Great times.
Particularly when you’ve got a catheter in and you don’t have to get up for a piss.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
October 21, 2021 12:11 pm
DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
October 21, 2021 12:11 pm

the righteous and the thinkers.

Yep, that’s me!

The conclusion to which I have arrived, by considered thought, is that the threat from tyrannical government is hugely greater than the threat from any microbe.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 21, 2021 12:12 pm

Dot = Baba?

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
October 21, 2021 12:13 pm

Sorry, I gave the Burnet Institute an extra ‘t’.
‘t’ for tripe.

struth
struth
October 21, 2021 12:14 pm

struth

I am not getting vaccinated.

I am scanning in at Woolies.

I am not getting arrested to buy some tea.

Nor I am I going to disobey the rules at a small business. One $5000 fine with very poor retail sales might be enough to trigger insolvency.

I do not want to bring that on them.

Bullshit.
Most small businesses have the QR code outside their door because they want no part of it either.
You can get what you need from them. You don’t need Woolies and no one scans in at Woolies anyway.
People have to accept they need to fight this.
Many small businesses are just going along to get along.
You do them no good in the long run if they aren’t made to fight and you jjust go along.
I’ve asked a few here if they have made any complaints to their local members, and they haven’t
The correct way is to live your life ignoring the tyrannical bullshit, and it’s also the correct way for the small business to exist.
Fuck any business who hasn’t fought this tooth and nail and expects me to stop what I am doing to hold my phone up to a crossword puzzle, to buy something from them.
The ones that turn a blind eye, let me in ,and the ones that I know have protested get my business.
And there are more up here ignoring that bullshit than are complying.
There is no grey area here Mr Libertarian.

Zipster
Zipster
October 21, 2021 12:15 pm

“Capitalists will sell us the rope with which we will hang them.” – Lenin

Rorschach
Rorschach
October 21, 2021 12:18 pm

Nor I am I going to disobey the rules at a small business. One $5000 fine with very poor retail sales might be enough to trigger insolvency.

I’m not fully vaxxed and needed a new tyre for my bike on Sunday. My local bike shop said no tax no service. Fine … I ordered two new tyres online and got them today.

Now – I went there mostly because I wanted to support the LBC. I am more than capable of doing the change myself. Probably saved 50% of what the LBC would have charged. MEH.

So:

HOW much business are the local shops missing out on because they CAN’T serve the unvaxxed? This prevents small business recovery as again, only the online giants [Amazon etc] benefit.

The economists advising are really fucked. And so are those who don’t stand up and call the stupidity out!!!

Eddystone
Eddystone
October 21, 2021 12:19 pm

I don’t sign in anywhere. I used to write down a fake phone number, now I don’t bother to even do that.

srr
srr
October 21, 2021 12:19 pm

Old School Conservative says:
October 21, 2021 at 10:54 am

Did you see this cartoon from the 1930s which was linked yesterday?

No I didn’t and I’m glad I had one more day of blissful ignorance.
But Shirley that is a 2021 production dressed up as a ’30s cartoon. Because every single word describes the WuFlu Scare with amazing accuracy.

It would be nice to think so, but remember, Josef Mengele & his ilk existed BEFORE the rise of Hitler as did the rest of the eugenicists in high power who had already decided that the world needed it’s ‘inferior’ human ‘stock’ culled.

Eugenics and Other Evils
By
G.K. Chesterton

Cassell and Company, Limited
London, New York, Toronto & Melbourne
1922
https://www.gutenberg.org/files/25308/25308-h/25308-h.htm
TO THE READER

I publish these essays at the present time for a particular reason connected with the present situation; a reason which I should like briefly to emphasise and make clear.

Though most of the conclusions, especially towards the end, are conceived with reference to recent events, the actual bulk of preliminary notes about the science of Eugenics were written before the war [WW 1]. It was a time when this theme was the topic of the hour; when eugenic babies (not visibly very distinguishable from other babies) sprawled all over the illustrated papers; when the evolutionary fancy of Nietzsche was the new cry among the intellectuals; and when Mr. Bernard Shaw and others were considering the idea that to breed a man like a cart-horse was the true way to attain that higher civilisation, of intellectual magnanimity and sympathetic insight, which may be found in cart-horses. It may therefore appear that I took the opinion too controversially, and it seems to me that I sometimes took it too seriously. But the criticism of Eugenics soon expanded of itself into a more general criticism of a modern craze for scientific officialism and strict social organisation.

And then the hour came when I felt, not without relief, that I might well fling all my notes into the fire. The fire was a very big one, and was burning up bigger things than such pedantic quackeries. And, anyhow, the issue itself was being settled in a very different style. Scientific officialism and organisation in the State which had specialised in them, had gone to war with the older culture of Christendom. Either Prussianism would win and the protest would be hopeless, or Prussianism would lose and the protest would be needless. As the war advanced from poison gas to piracy against neutrals, it grew more and more plain that the scientifically organised State was not increasing in popularity. Whatever happened, no Englishmen would ever again go nosing round the stinks of that low laboratory. So I thought all I had written irrelevant, and put it out of my mind.

I am greatly grieved to say that it is not irrelevant. It has gradually grown apparent, to my astounded gaze, that the ruling classes in England are still proceeding on the assumption that Prussia is a pattern for the whole world. If parts of my book are nearly nine years old, most of their principles and proceedings are a great deal older. They can offer us nothing but the same stuffy science, the same bullying bureaucracy and the same terrorism by tenth-rate professors that have led the German Empire to its recent conspicuous triumph. For that reason, three years after the war with Prussia, I collect and publish these papers.

G.K.C.

CONTENTS

PART I
The False Theory
CHAPTER PAGE
1. What is Eugenics? 3
2. The First Obstacles 12
3. The Anarchy from Above 22
4. The Lunatic and the Law 31
5. The Flying Authority 46
6. The Unanswered Challenge 61
7. The Established Church of Doubt 73
8. A Summary of a False Theory 82
PART II
The Real Aim
1. The Impotence of Impenitence 91
2. True History of a Tramp 101
3. True History of a Eugenist 114
4. The Vengeance of the Flesh 126
5. The Meanness of the Motive 136
6. The Eclipse of Liberty 148
7. The Transformation of Socialism 159
8. The End of the Household Gods 169
9. A Short Chapter 180
Index

Eddystone
Eddystone
October 21, 2021 12:20 pm

If I get asked to sign in, I walk out.

Rorschach
Rorschach
October 21, 2021 12:24 pm

FFS … this spell check is out of control.

no tax no service. = no VAXX no service

srr
srr
October 21, 2021 12:28 pm

The Next 4 Mandates Coming Your Way! Totalitarianism is Great
Awaken With JP – Published October 19, 2021 33,174 Views

https://rumble.com/embed/vlcf2x/?pub=5f67r

Rumble — Here are the next 4 mandates coming your way soon! Totalitarianism is great. But more importantly it’s for your protection!

MatrixTransform
October 21, 2021 12:29 pm

HOW much business are the local shops missing out on because they CAN’T serve the unvaxxed?

any business owner who still thinks Govt just saved them, is a fucking moron.

struth
struth
October 21, 2021 12:29 pm

We could get fined…cries the small business.
Have you got up your local rep?
No.
Fuck you then.

This boo hoo for the weak and apathetic plays right into the tyrants hands.
These small businesses must unite and fight.
They are asking you to comply with tyrants to trade with them.
Look at it like that.
Objecting to this and not complying is everybody’s responsibility.
You do the small business no good by letting them apathetically go along to get along.
And the businesses up here not complying, like certain venues I play in, are doing far better than the compliant.
They chance the fine because it’s death for the business in the long run complying with this shit anyway.
Sorry to have to teach libertarianism to a libertarian.

rickw
rickw
October 21, 2021 12:30 pm

I believe the older people had lower mortality from the Spanish flu than younger people because they had survived a flu epidemic in the 1890s, and had some cross immunity.

That would never work today, of course!

The history of flu’s in pacific island nations shows that the only way to handle these situations is to not restrict movement so that the flu does arrive and in doing so you build natural immunity.

If you miss out then any subsequent flu that does arrive will be devastating.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 21, 2021 12:30 pm

Farmer Gezsays:

October 21, 2021 at 12:11 pm

The Burnett Institute of ‘going a bit red in Helsinki’ scores another high science achievement.

Interesting.
I heard Nick Coatesworth on radio yesterday (former Deputy Federal Elf Officer, since resigned).
Gave Victorian Elf a good clip behind the ear (which includes the Carol Burnett Institute).
Basically said that you might err on the side of caution in early 2020 when you don’t know what you are dealing with but now, with vaccines and better epidemiological knowledge, there is no case for bullshit like masks for schoolkids, shutting playgrounds, yada yada.
Now that he is free from the bureacracy he sounded half sensible.

MatrixTransform
October 21, 2021 12:31 pm

next camp on Mount Stupid sounds like, “step away from the tractor, Kulak”

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
October 21, 2021 12:35 pm

‘I can’t look after you if you won’t get in the lifeboat.’

Annas lifeboat, colourised and motion captured, 2021.

Starting at 2 minutes 50 seconds.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNz_qyxyNpg

rickw
rickw
October 21, 2021 12:35 pm

Any pronouncements from the idiocracy?

Or have The Bat Eared Mongs gangrenous testicles exploded in a shower of worms?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 21, 2021 12:36 pm

Farmer Gezsays:

October 21, 2021 at 12:13 pm

Sorry, I gave the Burnet Institute an extra ‘t’.
‘t’ for tripe.

The full name is the Carol Burnett Institute.
Patrons include Steve Bracks, Quentin Bryce and left-leaning Vic Governor Linda Dessau.
The first listed on their ambassadors is Horatio Labumba (the AFL artist formerly known as Harry O’Brien).
Which way do you reckon they lean?

P
P
October 21, 2021 12:39 pm

Top Ender says:
October 21, 2021 at 8:35 am

Trafalgar Night

Today an age-old tradition of the Royal Australian Navy will be observed. We will always do well to remember Horatio Nelson, the greatest fighting sailor who ever lived, and one who should serve as a model for naval people everywhere.

Thank you TE, brilliant!

The Battle of Trafalgar, 21 October 1805 – Oil Painting

(My grandson whose middle name is Nelson celebrates his 15th Birthday Day today)

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 21, 2021 12:46 pm
C.L.
C.L.
October 21, 2021 12:47 pm

Slipped on a stupid, mossy yard step yesterday and hurt ligaments around my elbow.
Question: heat or cold?

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 21, 2021 12:47 pm

Or have The Bat Eared Mongs gangrenous testicles exploded in a shower of worms?

One can only hope..

Not Uh oh
Not Uh oh
October 21, 2021 12:48 pm

‘I can’t look after you if you won’t get in the lifeboat.’

Can’t wait to see Leak’s cartoon tomorrow.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
October 21, 2021 12:48 pm

Question: heat or cold?

Cold for the first 24.
Heat after that.

Gab
Gab
October 21, 2021 12:48 pm

There is no fucking pandemic.

World – Historical Death Rate Data
Year Death Rate Growth Rate
2021 7.645 0.430%
2020 7.612 0.440%
2019 7.579 0.440%
2018 7.546 -0.320%
2017 7.570 -0.320%
2016 7.594 -0.330%
2015 7.619 -0.310%
2014 7.643 -0.310%
2013 7.667 -0.980%
2012 7.743 -0.960%
2011 7.818 -0.960%
2010 7.894 -0.940%
2009 7.969 -0.940%
2008 8.045 -1.010%
2007 8.127 -1.000%
2006 8.209 -0.980%
2005 8.290 -0.980%
2004 8.372 -0.970%
2003 8.454 -0.750%
2002 8.518 -0.760%
2001 8.583 -0.740%
2000 8.647 -0.750%
1999 8.712 -0.730%
1998 8.776 -0.750%
1997 8.842 -0.740%
1996 8.908 -0.740%
1995 8.974 -0.730%
1994 9.040 -0.720%
1993 9.106 -0.810%
1992 9.180 -0.810%
1991 9.255 -0.790%
1990 9.329 -0.800%
1989 9.404 -0.780%
1988 9.478 -1.180%
1987 9.591 -1.150%
1986 9.703 -1.150%
1985 9.816 -1.130%
1984 9.928 -1.130%
1983 10.041 -1.400%
1982 10.184 -1.380%
1981 10.327 -1.360%
1980 10.469 -1.350%
1979 10.612 -1.330%
1978 10.755 -2.240%
1977 11.001 -2.180%
1976 11.246 -2.140%
1975 11.492 -2.090%
1974 11.737 -2.050%
1973 11.983 -2.480%
1972 12.288 -2.420%
1971 12.593 -2.360%
1970 12.898 -2.310%
1969 13.203 -2.260%
1968 13.508 -3.710%
1967 14.029 -3.580%
1966 14.550 -3.450%
1965 15.070 -3.340%
1964 15.591 -3.230%
1963 16.112 -1.560%
1962 16.367 -1.530%
1961 16.621 -1.510%
1960 16.876 -1.480%
1959 17.130 -1.470%
1958 17.385 -1.950%
1957 17.731 -1.910%
1956 18.076 -1.880%
1955 18.422 -1.840%
1954 18.767 -1.810%
1953 19.113 -1.780%
1952 19.459 -1.740%
1951 19.804 -1.720%
1950 20.150 0.000%

Gab
Gab
October 21, 2021 12:49 pm
Arky
October 21, 2021 12:50 pm

C.L.says:
October 21, 2021 at 12:47 pm
Slipped on a stupid, mossy yard step yesterday and hurt ligaments around my elbow.
Question: heat or cold?

..
Cold now, then do hydrotherapy with alternating hot and cold if it doesn’t come good.

C.L.
C.L.
October 21, 2021 12:50 pm

Here is market reality right here:

The Women’s National Basketball Championship parade is the funniest thing I’ve seen in years:

https://twitter.com/MattWalshBlog/status/1450923862728785923

Arky
October 21, 2021 12:52 pm

Contrast hydrotherapy:
..

Contrast water therapy (CWT) [alternating 1-min hot (38°C) and 1-min cold (15°C)] for 6/12/18 min lowered subjective measures of thermal sensation and muscle soreness compared with control (seated rest) but no consistent differences were observed in whole body fatigue. It indicates CWT for 6 min assisted acute recovery from high-intensity running and CWT duration did not have dose-response effect on running performance recovery.[38] Contrast baths have been suggested for reducing pain; hand volume; and stiffness in affected extremities but it had no significant effect on pre- and/or postoperative hand volume in carpal tunnel syndrome.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4049052/
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Rex Anger
Rex Anger
October 21, 2021 12:52 pm

I have done my duty to my fellow man and screamed don’t do it as loudly as I could, here on these blogs and in the real world.
You can’t deny that.
But when you show your permission slip of submission to get what the righteous cannot, you are then a POS.
An enemy of freedom and Australia.
A disaster for your children.
You know it, and that’s why you don’t want to hear about it.

I see our Red-Faced Guard is screaming at us about our lack of purity, again.

Struth-and-Reconciliation Sessons are such a Struggle…

Arky
October 21, 2021 12:53 pm
C.L.
C.L.
October 21, 2021 12:53 pm

Thanks, elbow docs. Cold it is.

Pete of Perth
Pete of Perth
October 21, 2021 12:54 pm

Imagine the paper work if Nelson had carked it today. Rampant bureaucracy has ruined the west.

struth
struth
October 21, 2021 12:55 pm
Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 21, 2021 12:56 pm

Speaking of Maximum Leaders:

‘I’ll go to my grave knowing no one else’s death will be on my head.
No innocent anyway.’

Here we go. And, predictably:

‘Many small businesses are just going along to get along.
You do them no good in the long run if they aren’t made to fight’

So now you’re not happy with demanding things of others that you won’t do, you’re telling businesses what to do as well. Again, with personal consequences for them (and their employees) but not you.

The thirst for totalitarianism is strong in this one.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
October 21, 2021 12:56 pm

ABCcess news this morning.

UK has looming covid crisis and Boris the pig must impose lockdowns/mask wearing etc and the report also mentioned “waning vaccine protection” demanding boosters…

At some stage this stupidity will stop wont it?

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