Open Thread-Weekend 23 Oct 2021


Bertran de Born – Eighth Circle, Gustave Dore, 1860s

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JC
JC
October 23, 2021 2:47 pm

There’s one famous Saudi oil field. I forget the name and can’t be bothered looking it up. I thought they had been sucking up oil from those very same oil wells forever and didn’t need to re-drill. That’s not the case, Makka?

Makka
Makka
October 23, 2021 2:50 pm

The Australian public should archive the event, lest they embarrass the memory of those long gone people.

I really like this comment Mater. Thanks. I’ve been feeling something similar the last several years with all the woke rubbish , the feminizing of the ADF and now during his deplorable attack on our freedoms during covid. The current clownshow we have are riding on the back of the goodwill and respect EARNED by diggers like you and thousands others since passed. They would be all fuming at what has become of us. But it’s a big call not to attend or show respect on ANZAC Day. I’m conflicted. I’ll ponder it more.

FlyingPigs
FlyingPigs
October 23, 2021 2:54 pm

JC

Never forget that an old time banker would lend money to make money in the local community.

Didn’t matter who you were or where you come from.

Nowadays they wont help me start a nuclear power plant because government.

We in the West live in Fascism.

Indolent
Indolent
October 23, 2021 2:55 pm
JC
JC
October 23, 2021 2:58 pm

Build that wall.

The southern border with Mexico is seeing the highest levels of illegal border crossings in 35 years, but the Department of Homeland Security has found one access point it can shore up — doling out $455,000 to a Delaware construction company for a fence around President Biden’s “Summer White House.”

In September, the department awarded a contract of $456,548 to Turnstone Holdings LLC for “PURCHASE AND INSTALLATION OF SECURITY FENCING AT 32 FARVIEW, REHOBOTH DELAWARE,” according to USAspending.gov, an online database tracking federal government spending.

https://nypost.com/2021/10/22/dhs-455k-for-security-fencing-around-bidens-beach-home/

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 23, 2021 2:59 pm

But it’s a big call not to attend or show respect on ANZAC Day

I go to the Dawn service these days – I haven’t marched or been to the 11 O’clock service for some years now.

Zipster
Zipster
October 23, 2021 3:02 pm
P
P
October 23, 2021 3:02 pm

real Rukshan
@therealrukshan
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Segregated dining in Australia. Protest in St Kilda
https://twitter.com/therealrukshan/status/1451726936988807176

Makka
Makka
October 23, 2021 3:02 pm

I thought they had been sucking up oil from those very same oil wells forever and didn’t need to re-drill.

Ghawar in the East is an elephant , biggest of the bigs in Saudi and has been pumping forever. But there are parts that need water injection. The Saudi’s have a number of fields they use to pump and blend to achieve the desired qualities being sold off. At any one time they have 20-30% capped (that info’s about a decade back but it it’s been that way since the 80’s.) So no need to drill more, it’s mostly well rehab and maintenance type work.

The real extent of Saudi’s oil reserves is kept secret. There are locations up near the Iraq border that geo’s reckon are as big as Ghawar but no infrastructure there- yet. An oil “shortage” is not imminent. So the high prices aren’t a function of resource- as always it’s the forces controlling the tap.

Tom
Tom
October 23, 2021 3:05 pm

No gratitude, no pride, no relief … just quiet seething
GIDEON HAIGH
For the past 18 months, I have been taking the same walk through the same Melbourne ¬suburban streets in the same ¬direction at roughly the same time every day.
I’ve thought at times of varying it but always refrained. It wasn’t a pleasure, nor was it a “freedom”, except in this word’s modern sense as a privilege granted by a premier. So I wasn’t prepared to perform it other than mechanically, in precisely the mean and grudging spirit of its permission.
I’m well aware this sounds perverse. It is perverse. I don’t care. We each had a way of coping with the world’s most protracted lockdown, and this was mine, with an interior monologue of quiet seething to match.
I’d note the emptying shopfronts, the increasingly bedraggled gardens, the looks of fellow pedestrians, like Eliot’s crowds flowing over London Bridge: “So many, I had not thought death had undone so many/Sighs, short and infrequent, were exhaled, And each man fixed his eyes before his feet.”
“It must be unbearable in Melbourne,” friends from interstate would say. No, I’d tell them. It was, just, bearable. You could get by, providing you expected nothing good to happen, everything to take twice as long as it should, and no useful end to be served.
Like a body adapting to starvation, you rationed expectation, postponed pleasure, concentrated on the little you could control in your unkempt lethargy, and thought sympathetically of the worse-off, if in an abstract sense.
For best not to think too much about the businesses being ruined, the proudly independent people being reduced to mendicants, and the volunteers battling on, with nothing to see for their efforts.
Best not to brood on the educations being undermined, the married couples buckling, the elderly dying alone, the debts being accumulated for future generations to pay for.
Best not even to enquire too deeply into how others were faring, lest you touch on a sore spot or pick a disagreeable theme.
Some in lockdown seemed to thrive on disagreement. Me, not so much. One kept things trivial and superficial, focusing on shared irritations, which drew the day’s sting.
Instead, I grew hypervigilant around language, especially the technocratic bullshit of measures (always broad), steps (always targeted), exposure sites (always that place you had just been to) and community transmission (people living).
Remember when they were suburbs rather than LGAs? Remember when we had not “road maps” but just plans? Alas, the self-inflating propensities of bureaucratic language now preclude anything so simple.
Milestones? Always grim. Deaths of nonagenarians? Always tragic. “The science”? Always guiding. Except for the weird ¬anthropomorphism of the virus, variously “cunning”, “clever”, “wicked”, “evil” etc. And who could forget crowd pleasers like “creeping assumptions” and ¬Unified Security?
It remains unclear what Premier Dan Andrews’ reputation as a communicator is based on, except repetition, and his crediting with more than 200 Covid press conferences.
It sounded to me like he conducted the same press conference 200 times, replete with abundances of caution, people working incredibly closely together, and instructions so full of qualifications, exceptions and caveats that one ended up feeling capable of nothing. Did anyone else try the government’s Covid helpline? I’m still on hold. But, of course, this was not the point. The standard Andrews press conference was not a public health message but a political message. Dan good. Dan strong. Dan win.
And it worked. If largely for their own partisan reasons, people bought the idea of one masterstroke after another. There would follow the ritual hoisting of the #DanYay pennant to the top of the Twitter mast for the choreographed mass salute, the denunciation of “traitors”.
Actually, I had to respect this antic enthusiasm, doubtless as therapeutic to the DanStans as my daily walk – so many people with so little else to do! And Matthew Guy, I mean, wow. When he arrives, as they say, it’s like someone else has left. Except that even with a shrug and a grumble, you continued feeling that weight, of curtailment, of disappointment.
So that when some self-consciously perky radio presenter or cheery columnist reminded you again of the importance of keeping positive and enjoying the little things in life, you wanted, frankly, to throw up.
You looked on with corresponding detachment as self-¬indulgent lumpenmorons roamed a CBD you only vaguely recalled anyway. You’re angry, are you? Cry me a river.
So, no, let’s just say that these past two years in Victoria haven’t been a vintage period for empathy. But perhaps that goes to Covid’s harshest sting, which has been reversing the standard dynamic of crisis – an instant, by convention, for rushing to one another’s aid, for arms round shoulders, for the sharing of time and belongings.
Instead, the Newspeak of working together by staying apart, unification in isolation, anathematising every visible gathering, however innocent, however necessary. Thus possibly the nadir of lockdown, August’s playground ban, imposed under the guise of protecting children, but later justified by chief medical officer Brett Sutton as because attending adults might “hold de facto meetings” – ie, talk.
Playground equipment was wrapped in crime-scene tape as police patrolled nearby – try explaining to your children that this was in anyone’s best interests, that their very swings and slides were a source of community endangerment.
Nothing, of course, caused more anguish than the lockdown predicament of children, than watching the soi-disant “education state” idly squander irrecoverable years of development and socialisation.
This, sealed up in our homes, suffered in private, is lockdown’s ugly secret: how disciplines around screen use collapsed; how dependence on social media deepened; how kids further absorbed the message of the world being a dangerous, frightening place; how kids already anxious about body image were exposed to it daily on their Zoom screens.
These were the hardest, most exhausted conversations of lockdown, with parents of children reaching the end of Grade 1 having hardly been at school, with parents of screen-deadened teenagers now about to be whirled into VCE exams.
You looked on with corresponding detachment as self-¬indulgent lumpenmorons roamed a CBD you only vaguely recalled anyway. You’re angry, are you? Cry me a river.
But here the government showed its meanest, pettiest, and frankly stupidest streak. After all, marathon press conferences are pretty easy to hold when someone else is handling the remote learning, eh?
Even the vaunted “end” of lockdown is more of a tentative first step: basically involving not much more than a few restaurant seats inside, the chance of a haircut, the repeal of a pointless curfew. More dreary days of screen-based busywork await my 11-year-old until school resumes full-time. I still can’t see my mother, in regional Victoria, or my partner, in another state. It also means suffering Andrews’ pivot from tedious admonition to old-fashioned political oiliness. He’s so proud, so thankful, so grateful, so sickening.
Seriously, what’s he got to be grateful for? We did as we were told, to avoid draconian fines for non-compliance. You might as well thank us for obeying the law of gravity.
Still, at least it’s not quite as weird as people’s professions of gratitude to Andrews for their sacrifices. That’s pure masochism.
This doesn’t feel like a moment for gratitude at all, save perhaps to frontline carers, and to supportive friends and family.
The losses have been too great for celebration; the mistakes have been too numerous for congratulation; the future is too uncertain for relief. It’s just another provisional permission slip, maybe for a slightly different walk.
Link.

JC
JC
October 23, 2021 3:07 pm

Okay thanks. Learn something new everyday.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
October 23, 2021 3:08 pm

Just thinking back ton the execrable ABCcess “interview where they were claiming there were no modular small scale nuclear plants around.
This of course was to head off using nuclear to prevent gerbil worming.

Wouldnt a nuclear powered vessel (sub/ship) be an example of a nuclear/modular \design?

If its small enough to fit in a sub then its pretty damn compact already.
Or am I missing something?

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
October 23, 2021 3:15 pm

Did the Fat Man really close the comments on his Cat site?

Or did he just stop posting content because loss of interest, and the auto-close feature activated at its appointed time?

It must be said that making Steve of Brisbane explode into a screaming, deranged mess wasn’t pretty, but at least he isn’t vibe-checking M0nty anymore…

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
October 23, 2021 3:19 pm

@ mole-

No, you are absolutely correct. It is just that the leftwits are now only capable of semantic wordgames. The technology and popular acceptance of same has managed to slip past their liberally-greased manipulations.

The lack of a Comintern to fund endless propaganda streams hasn’t helped- When your new benefactors want a monetary rather than political angle for their effort, and measure the long game in Quarters rather than Decades, then you need to go with what works quickly. So, spoiling matches rather than entire campaigns…

Makka
Makka
October 23, 2021 3:21 pm

China’s Orbital Bombardment System Is Big, Bad News—but Not a Breakthrough
An attempt to evade missile defenses threatens to worsen a costly arms race.

https://foreignpolicy.com/2021/10/18/hypersonic-china-missile-nuclear-fobs/

I’m sure the US has countermeasures for this but it certainly does give China a nuke capability that has significantly less warning time. There is no doubt though about the intimidation being mounted by the CCP psychos. Our world be Belt and Road partners. Great judgement call there , Dan!

cohenite
October 23, 2021 3:22 pm

Art porn, Bathgate.

Makka
Makka
October 23, 2021 3:22 pm

Our would be Belt and Road partners.

Makka
Makka
October 23, 2021 3:27 pm

Dune.

It’s a good’un and the next one will be even better.

calli
calli
October 23, 2021 3:27 pm

Thanks for printing that in full, Tom.

Powerful stuff that we can all relate to, but may not fully understand depending on where we live. The anger, helplessness, misery. And he touches upon the untold cruelty dished out to children by the foul Andrews government.

When anyone outside Victoria has the gall to make light of what you guys have been through, just reprise that.

Zipster
Zipster
October 23, 2021 3:28 pm

ex-wife’s bf had similar experience

Kyle’s vaccine experience
Pericarditis after vaccination, possible inadvertent intravenous administration.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
October 23, 2021 3:29 pm

The Assistant director is to blame..

Anyone but Arrik Balrrin..

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2021/oct/22/alec-baldwin-film-shooting-halyna-hutchins
Alec Baldwin was handed a loaded weapon by an assistant director (Donaldo Trupero) who indicated it was safe to use in the moments before the actor fatally shot a cinematographer, court records released on Friday show.

The assistant director did not know the prop gun was loaded with live rounds, according to a search warrant filed in a Santa Fe court.

The cinematographer, Halyna Hutchins, was shot in the chest. The director, Joel Souza, who was standing behind her, was wounded, the records show.

FlyingPigs
FlyingPigs
October 23, 2021 3:31 pm

JC
Which bank should I apply to create and setup and sell Australian Nuclear Power???
ANP is a good name.
We could sell power to friggy’s con job.

Mater
October 23, 2021 3:31 pm

But it’s a big call not to attend or show respect on ANZAC Day. I’m conflicted. I’ll ponder it more.

Makka,
Thanks. I’ll expand on my comment.
Not attending an organised event, doesn’t prevent showing respect.

Let’s run a theoretical.

The current two-tier, ‘vaccination economy’ continues indefinitely. On the 25th April next year, people could be gathering to pay tribute to the ANZACs on the very same day that some of those very ANZACs are prohibited from having a gun fire breakfast in a cafe, attending the football, or possibly even eating at the RSL. Honouring people at the same time that you are treating them as second class citizens? No, they can fuck off.

I appreciate the seriousness of what I said, and the implications, but the current situation is the antithesis of the spirit of the day.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 23, 2021 3:31 pm

Tom earlier.

PS: governments can lose elections even when its opponents are hopeless, as in Victoria.

True.
The old adage in State elections is that oppositions don’t win them, governments lose them.
The dual traps for third and fourth term governments is to neither appear stale nor arrogant.
The trouble is that most long termers try to avoid the stale label by launching lots of “vanity legacy projects”.
Which immediately makes them look arrogant.
I see lots of parallels between Hunchback 2021 and Kennett 1998.

JC
JC
October 23, 2021 3:37 pm

Piggles

I have no idea. I don’t think any bank would fund it with debt. You would require government approval – presumably state and federal- and you’d then have to raise capital from investors. I think it would be relatively easier to raise equity rather than debt from banks.

Dot
Dot
October 23, 2021 3:37 pm

I think we’re going to see more of this.

Just going deeper and deeper – actually onshore.

From 2019.

https://www.australianmining.com.au/oil-gas/news-oil-gas/west-erregulla-2-claims-deepest-ever-well-drilled-onshore-australia/

From the Commies. From 2019 as well.

http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2019-07/25/c_138257045.htm

“8,882 meters! PetroChina drills Asia’s deepest oil well on land”

Makka
Makka
October 23, 2021 3:38 pm

I see lots of parallels between Hunchback 2021 and Kennett 1998.

Despite 2 decades of churning out newly woke , lofo, braindead, “gimme free stuff” locals entering voting age as well as immigrant numpty voters packed into Vic into their high rise vote herd covid communidities? You have a serious case of optimism, Pancho. The smart Viccos who can have already fled.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
October 23, 2021 3:39 pm

All fprmer PMs (and MPs as well, bugger them) must be gibbetted out the front of parliment house when they lose an election.
This would provide a singular focus of “how do I keep the majority of people happy” rather than on irrational “Im going to save the world by exporting industry to China, and taxes” projects they seem to love.

Former PMs apologise to Pacific leaders for Australia’s apathy on climate crisis
Former Australian prime ministers Kevin Rudd and Malcolm Turnbull, and former foreign affairs minister Bob Carr, have accused the Morrison government of “cynical indifference” and “empty rhetoric” when it comes to climate action, saying the commitment to achieve net zero emissions by 2050 was the “bare minimum” that needed to be done.

Kevin Rudd and Malcolm Turnbull lash out at Morrison government’s ‘cynical indifference’ and assure Pacific leaders ‘a majority’ of Australians ‘are in your corner’

Rudd, Turnbull and Carr said that the obstacles to climate action in Australia were “not economic” but rather were the result of “the vested interests of the coal and gas industry coupled with rightwing populist media and politics”, which they accused of being “the most intractable opponents to cutting emissions faster and sooner”.

JC
JC
October 23, 2021 3:40 pm

True.
The old adage in State elections is that oppositions don’t win them, governments lose them.

Honest to goodness, if that’s true then how can anyone explain how the previous liberal government was turfed in Victoria? It ran a decent surplus and was intent on building a decent road that would service the east to west. The Liars were voted in to scrap at road an pay out $1 billion to do so. The hunchback is hero.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 23, 2021 3:41 pm

Brilliant meme going around.
The scene from Pulp Fiction with Samuel L Jackson and John Travolta in the car.
Vincent (Travolta) has just leant over the seat, gun in hand, and accidentally shot the backseat passenger.
Blood and human tissue everywhere.
Someone has taken that still and superimposed Alec Baldwin’s head on Travolta.

areff
areff
October 23, 2021 3:42 pm

If oil consists of dead dinosaurs and wotnots, are we to believe the surface of the planet has risen 8,882 meters since they roamed the earth? Surely there has to be another, better explanation.

JC
JC
October 23, 2021 3:43 pm

“8,882 meters! PetroChina drills Asia’s deepest oil well on land”

FMD, that’s a deep hole, Dot. Anymore and they would hit China… Get it? In the old days people would say that if you dug a hole deep enough, you’d end up in China.

JC
JC
October 23, 2021 3:45 pm

If oil consists of dead dinosaurs and wotnots, are we to believe the surface of the planet has risen 8,882 meters since they roamed the earth? Surely there has to be another, better explanation.

That’s dot’s area of science expertise. I think he’s always maintained oil ain’t oil, Saul. Its abiotic.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
October 23, 2021 3:46 pm

8 prominent doctors & scientists engage in a remarkable exchange

Strongly edited but still honestly and carefully put. Some of it very contested by other authorities especially re the spike proteins. I liked the commentary in this video from a couple of treating doctors from ‘large but local’ Covid treatment centres. They see this disease and know that Covid is real and dangerous, and place their emphasis on treatments, especially at an early stage of presentation. Their criticism of long-lead-time randomised controlled trials as not keeping up with their own change-as-you-go treatment modalities was spot on. The emphasis on treatments is so sensible, yet often neglected by those rushing to judgement about vaccination being the primary mode of attack as this pandemic changes shape. These physicians were some of first to show that steroids can help treat what one said clearly presents as an inflammatory vascular disease. Due to their work, steroids are now widely used for Covid (over-use in India of course caused black fungal disease so it’s not for self-medicators to use).

That all said, vaccination will still drive the future: the viewpoint being that one-shot prevention is better than focusing on treatment or continual prophylaxis. This perspective argues that more lives are saved with mass vaccination, accepting vaccine injury as simply the cost of the endless war as new Covid variants emerge. This seems callous to me. I’ve always argued that compensation should be available for vaccine injury, at least recognising that there is this human cost, and I reject on the grounds of liberty making any vaccine or treatment mandatory. The Oz today has a big feature outlining some front runners in the new vaccine stakes. Looks like more of the same to my cursory glance, but will have another read later.

JC
JC
October 23, 2021 3:49 pm

Hahahaha look where the Glasgow climate Haj is trying to take us.

Nationals alarmed by reports of Glasgow push to cut beef, change diets

in an attempt to change people’s diets.

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/nation/politics/nationals-alarmed-by-reports-of-glasgow-push-to-cut-beef-change-diets/news-story/987f1cd2e68302902e8b6d7f853c4d7e

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
October 23, 2021 3:49 pm

If oil consists of dead dinosaurs and wotnots, are we to believe the surface of the planet has risen 8,882 meters since they roamed the earth? Surely there has to be another, better explanation.

I believe it is called “abiotic oil”.
In a swirling mass of condensing stardust, I guess it is not unreasonable for CHn to be amongst the goods.

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 23, 2021 3:49 pm

Makka

I’m sure the US has countermeasures for this but it certainly does give China a nuke capability that has significantly less warning time. There is no doubt though about the intimidation being mounted by the CCP psychos. Our world be Belt and Road partners. Great judgement call there , Dan!

The launce or launches will be observed, as will the launch azimuth. Anything more than one or two will cause suspicion, as mass launches of satellites would be, at the least, unusual. Even fractional orbit takes time, probably longer than a direct attack. Hence, there will be an alert, and if/when the “satellites” re-appear in low earth orbit, heading for possible targets, all hell will be released. MAD is just sleeping, it is not a Norwegian Blue.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
October 23, 2021 3:49 pm

cohenitesays:
October 23, 2021 at 3:22 pm
Art porn, Bathgate.

Not for me. Run of the mill that heaps of so called artists do. Reproductions of photos. Art captures a moment, a look or the feeling of the moment. Make the observer think. One of the few photos that is good is the one at the end of WWII in I think in George St with the guy giving a young woman an embrace. Imagine if that had been a painting.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
October 23, 2021 3:50 pm

I agree with you, Mater.

I also consider that those in uniform (and especially those with overseas service and dead/wounded mates) have a very different appreciation of ANZAC Day and its meaning and commemoration.

For you, thinking of and meeting with your mates on the day and catching up and reminiscing, or even just flicking each other your thoughts by whatever platform you have available, is significant in a way that the average person or spoiling activist will never get.

It has never been about the Cenotaphs, trappings, speeches or parades. It was only ever about the people.

ANZAC Day never stopped, and will never stop, being what it is. Old Boys and serving Members alike can and will continue to meet up, raise a glass to the dead and enjoy the company of the living.

Perhaps we are getting to the point where Australians need to go back to First Principles in commemoration?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 23, 2021 3:50 pm

Mole at 3:08.
Many dickless upticks from me.
I was thinking that this morning.
If you can fit a nuke reactor in a ten metre diameter tube and run it for thirty years, the reliability and scalability arguments are over.
Mind you, it helps to be swimming around in endless quantities of cooling fluid.
If ScoMo had any balls that is precisely the announcement to make in Sco’land.
“Yep. We can do net zero. But we have to have lotsa nukes to do it. You got a problem with that Boris? Emmanuel? Joe? Yeah you … the dopey one.”

shatterzzz
October 23, 2021 3:52 pm

Gideon Haigh …
For the past 18 months, I have been taking the same walk through the same Melbourne ­suburban streets in the same ­direction at roughly the same time every day.
I’ve thought at times of varying it but always refrained. It wasn’t a pleasure, nor was it a “freedom”, except in this word’s modern sense as a privilege granted by a premier. So I wasn’t prepared to perform it other than mechanically, in precisely the mean and grudging spirit of its permission.

reminds me of me and my 40kms, 2 hours, daily, bike ride around Fairfield, NSW, today being the293rd time and whenever asked why do it at 73? ..
“because it not only has kept me sane by being able to get out and about at least once a day it, actually cheers me up if I’m having an off-day plus has gotten me used to not talking to anyone and to enjoy my own company” ..
I’m, probably, fitter, healthier & quieter than I’ve been in my entire life .. BUT ..
never really intended any of it to happen & will NEVER, EVER forgive gummints’ both State & Federa</em>l for being the cause ……!
And nothing whatsoever can ever make up for the time missed with my 8 grandkids ..

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
October 23, 2021 3:52 pm

Do we have geologists here?
Is there nukes in the earth’s core?

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
October 23, 2021 3:54 pm

Surely there has to be another, better explanation.

I’ve always taken it to be land folding and underground roiling around enclosing vast areas of dead vegetation to tremendous pressures as continents drifted and such. But I ain’t no geologistic sort. Them Himalayas have always been there as far as I am concerned and half a mile of ice over Middle England seems odd too, but I am reliably informed I should believe it all. I tend to trust geologists as fairly stable men; as far as men go, that is.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 23, 2021 3:55 pm

JCsays:

October 23, 2021 at 3:43 pm

“8,882 meters! PetroChina drills Asia’s deepest oil well on land”

FMD, that’s a deep hole, Dot. Anymore and they would hit China… Get it? 

Said something similar to the caretaker of Cook’s cottage in the Fitzroy Gardens once.
“Cook was overrated. Discovering Australia. Phhht. How could he not discover Australia. Walks out his front door, there it is. Australia. Goes out the back door. More Australia. Tries to get out the windows. Nothing but Australia as far as the eye can see.”

Dot
Dot
October 23, 2021 3:56 pm

That’s dot’s area of science expertise

For trolling mostly. Leftists (by default, deep green alarmists or renewables spivs) hate the idea that abiotic oil might be a thing.

Cheap oil forever!

We didn’t stop using stone age tools because we ran out of stones.

shatterzzz
October 23, 2021 3:56 pm

If ScoMo had any balls
That’s on the same level as BAT FLU really is a, terrifying, pandemic … LOL!

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 23, 2021 3:57 pm

I’ve always taken it to be land folding and underground roiling around enclosing vast areas of dead vegetation to tremendous pressures as continents drifted and such. 

Not according to my Bible.
How could all that stuff happen in the 7,658 years since creation?

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
October 23, 2021 3:58 pm

We didn’t stop using stone age tools because we ran out of stones.

lurv it.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 23, 2021 3:58 pm

shatterzzzsays:

October 23, 2021 at 3:56 pm

If ScoMo had any balls
That’s on the same level as BAT FLU really is a, terrifying, pandemic … LOL!

I know, I know.
But the “Net Zero = Nukes” is the perfect wedge of the Green Left.

Dot
Dot
October 23, 2021 3:59 pm

I’ve always taken it to be land folding and underground roiling around enclosing vast areas of dead vegetation to tremendous pressures as continents drifted and such.

Yes, but there is MORE oil further down.

Agree with comments above – as we find methane throughout the universe, methane under pressure could form all kinds of hydrocarbons. Biogenic material is found in some of it as the sources likely mix. Hell, life may have even emerged from a “deep, hot biosphere”.

JC
JC
October 23, 2021 4:01 pm

Do we have geologists here?

Dude, are you kidding? We have volcanologists, campanologists, precision plough engineers, sexologists. We have the whole kit and caboodle of …olgists here.

local oaf
October 23, 2021 4:03 pm

Do we have geologists here?
Is there nukes in the earth’s core?

I’m no geologist, but I’ve gathered from astronomy docos I’ve watched that radioactive elements in the Earth are thought to be part of the reason it has retained its heat since it first formed.

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
October 23, 2021 4:04 pm

A 1 million years of earthquakes at one inch per earthquake.
Consider the gain of mass from cosmic dust at (say) a mm per year.
Geologic time scales are in the billions. Over such time scales almost anything becomes possible.

JC
JC
October 23, 2021 4:05 pm

The Right .. the American Right has a great sense of humor.

Get a load of a t-shirt idea. I bet there will be people wearing one these too.. chanting Fuck Joe Biden..

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 23, 2021 4:06 pm

It has never been about the Cenotaphs, trappings, speeches or parades. It was only ever about the people.

ANZAC Day never stopped, and will never stop, being what it is. Old Boys and serving Members alike can and will continue to meet up, raise a glass to the dead and enjoy the company of the living.

I thought that when there were protests at the Shrine a few weeks ago.
Various RSL chiefs* were outrageously outraged, along with the Shrine CEO (a decorated veteran of the Brighton Sea Scouts).
Fine.
But where was the outrage when Anzac Day marches were made effectively unworkable this year, whilst 79,000 people turned up to a footy match at the MCG four hours later?
.
* Men who run clubs in perennial fear of losing their state sanctioned pokie licences, or having a slug suddenly appear on the floor of their kitchen.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
October 23, 2021 4:06 pm

And nothing whatsoever can ever make up for the time missed with my 8 grandkids ..

We skyped with our grandie sweeties in Queensland last night, for it was the very first birthday of that little grandson and his two sisters were thrilled to tell us about his party. They also wanted to show off their Highland Dancing. Miss Seven more competent than Miss Five, was also aware that Grandma dances. Can you do a dance for us now? she asks, unaware of my current physical miseries. So I stike a ballet pose or two which seems to satisfy them and collapse back into a chair grimacing a smile. We hope to see them soon. I will dance Highland Dancing with you using some crossed swords, I promised. Plastic swords, of course.

Zipster
Zipster
October 23, 2021 4:10 pm
Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 23, 2021 4:11 pm

Wouldnt a nuclear powered vessel (sub/ship) be an example of a nuclear/modular \design?
If its small enough to fit in a sub then its pretty damn compact already.
Or am I missing something?

Mole – As I’ve mentioned before we were offered one in 1991. The ex-Soviet sub guys were down on their luck and noticed we had this stonking great electrolytic plant. The technical director showed me the fax from them when I was in his office one day, we had a good giggle. They had no idea of Oz politics.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 23, 2021 4:11 pm

From JC’s link at 4:05.
This about Dick Cheney in 2019.

Kneel
Kneel
October 23, 2021 4:12 pm

“…nothing wrong with a Bentley as long as it’s green and has a blower.”

BRG is de rigour for a Bentley.

An 8/71 blower at 50% over driven, or something more discrete? 🙂
I have a photo somewhere from Castlemain Rod Shop, twin blowers on a BB Chev (454?). Registered too. Although God himself would have trouble seeing past the blowers from the drivers seat.

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 23, 2021 4:13 pm

Sancho

Mind you, it helps to be swimming around in endless quantities of cooling fluid.

I doubt that the cooling involves the sea water. Venting lots of heat into the ocean would produce an infra red signature that could probably be detected, unless they stayed very deep all the time.

areff
areff
October 23, 2021 4:14 pm

From AAP:

Dozens of protesters have rallied outside a Melbourne hotel being used to detain refugees after a COVID-19 outbreak escalated, with more than one-third of detainees testing positive for coronavirus.

And guess what: none of Andrews blue thugs administering beatings, no plastic bullets, stun grenades, fines or warnings about the killer COVID virus.

Victoria, the Anatomy State: Run by a prick for the benefit of arseholes

JC
JC
October 23, 2021 4:17 pm

Dot

Here’s a question for you. We’ve had major, major covid induced supply shocks throughout the world. This has obviously caused prices to ramp up in certain areas. Because of low prices for shipping and high prices for steel (last year) freighters are in short supply as there was large scale scrapping last year.
If prices are going up, then this is a change in relative prices… ie. it’s a signal for the market to produce more.

Why then, is a change in relative prices even considered inflation? There are several kinds of inflation, but central bank induced inflation is not what we’re experiencing at the moment.

calli
calli
October 23, 2021 4:18 pm

I miss my little ones terribly. It feels like I’ve had my heart ripped out some days.

That’s when I have to control my inner berserker.

JC
JC
October 23, 2021 4:22 pm

Great links , Zipster.

Keep posting them.

areff
areff
October 23, 2021 4:23 pm

Calli, I share your pain.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
October 23, 2021 4:29 pm

ANZAC Day never stopped, and will never stop, being what it is.

I first came to Australia in 1946 aged four. In my primary school years we did the pink parts of the map and saluted the flag and its Empire. In 1951 we celebrated Federation, well within living memory of the old people then, and we all got a medal. A neighbour had been born in India during the 1857 Indian mutiny. She told me what her parents told her about it. We felt connected to this country’s past and its future. Australia Day was always about Captain Philip and the First Fleet and Sydney Harbour not Botany Bay. We felt sad for the aborigines who died and loved to hear about Bennelong’s friendship with Captain Philip. We studied every explorer Australia ever had, and didn’t have to be told about ‘the pioneers’ because we still knew some, on farms or in slab humpies still in ‘the bush’. We’d all seen an occasional swaggie on the dusty local roads. There were New Australians coming soon, so we’d heard, called Bolts, and so we called them Nuts and Bolts. We were Pommies but so were lots of others, and the place we had come from many real Australians still called ‘home’. Anzacs were biscuits and Anzacs were also men who’d been soldiers in The War and who said things were bonzer even though the politicians were drongos.

Australia Day is still all of that to me and it always will be; it should never be changed, just added to by the memories of all who have lived here since, whatever their genetic or ethnic ancestry.

Zipster
Zipster
October 23, 2021 4:31 pm

Supply Shortages Everywhere!! Is An Economic Crisis Inevitable?

this is well worth watching, at the end he talks about the looming ‘climate lockdowns’ to save humanity. the neo-dark age has well and truly started

Rabz
October 23, 2021 4:41 pm

I miss my little ones terribly

This is an expression of the human cost of this insane fascist idiocy (BIRM). No grandmother should be forcefully separated from those cuddly li’l ones. The former may never see the latter again.

To paraphrase the late Andrew Peacock, “It isn’t right, is it?” 🙁

calli
calli
October 23, 2021 4:41 pm

Areff, I want nothing but evil to befall the people who brought all this down upon us and then deliberately kept it going for political reasons.

Gab mentioned the maledictory Psalms the other day and I gave her a sample. If King David was right in wanting justice, then so are we.

And never forget…China gave us this.

Rabz
October 23, 2021 4:44 pm

On a slightly related note, one of my best mates became a grandpa overnight. I’m never going to let him live it down.

“Hey Gramps …” 🙂

Rabz
October 23, 2021 4:46 pm

“Time to break out the Barry Manillo, Grandpa!” 🙂

calli
calli
October 23, 2021 4:47 pm

My mother needs to see those little ones even more than me. She is 90 and there’s not much more of the road to go. She deserves, after a lifetime of nurture and encouragement and just plain sacrifice for her family to bend and kiss Mr. Two’s little head as he sits on her lap, itching for flight.

She is using her much derided “commie pass” to have her hair done next week. She has had enough of looking like a scarecrow.

Yep. Another old “collaborator” who has folded to tyranny. What ever will the great revolution do without her?

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 23, 2021 4:48 pm

Outstanding article in The Oz today by, all of people, Gideon Haigh – very much in the same manner of those by Steve Waterson.

I can only assume someone stole perennial panty bunch wokester Gideon Haigh’s computer. For the record, it was a good and well deserved spray. Not that I think it will make an iota of difference.

calli
calli
October 23, 2021 4:49 pm

Hah! It looks like it’s doing just fine in St Kilda! Good on them!

All those empty shops.

Old bloke
Old bloke
October 23, 2021 4:49 pm

Mater says:
October 23, 2021 at 3:31 pm

I appreciate the seriousness of what I said, and the implications, but the current situation is the antithesis of the spirit of the day.

Yesterday’s heroes Mater, like the front line medical staff who did what they could with the outbreak of Covid-19 and who are now unemployed due to unvaxxed status. Heroes yesterday, 3rd class citizens today.

We are all commodities to be bought and sold according to the whims of those who rule over us, we must never forget what they have done to Australia.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 23, 2021 4:50 pm

areff at 4:14.
Standby for full on Extinction Rebellion marches next week to coincide with Gabfest 21 in Glasgow.
They will be “responsible grandparents” who are “deeply passionate about da planet” and will have a “rigorous Covid-safe plan” approved by Slugger Sutton.

Rabz
October 23, 2021 4:50 pm

calli – no one ever claimed these decisions (that were forced on us for no good reason) were easy.

This monstrous tyranny being inflicted on us by the bugmen must (and hopefully will) end.

Your poor lovely ol’ mother. What a disgrace.

Rabz
October 23, 2021 4:53 pm

Blah – I’m not referring to your Mum, calli, but the imbeciles that have forced this lunacy upon us …

Sorry for the clumsiness.

Rabz
October 23, 2021 4:54 pm

Standby for full on Extinction Rebellion marches next week

Or, as Tim Blair might refer to them, “Extinction Rebellion gluefests”.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
October 23, 2021 4:57 pm

Victoria, the Anatomy State: Run by a prick for the benefit of arseholes

Gaaaaayyyyy.

Winston Smith
October 23, 2021 4:59 pm

Bruce O’Newk:

Oh and someone pls tell JC he’s turning into Bird, obnoxious and nutty.

He’s always been like that – it happens every time the market goes down* and his ego is bruised.
*(Insert comment on how the economy is going gangbusters and he’s never been wealthier.)
I got on to the Old Cat about 2005? and he’s always been an obnoxious pig of a man, and utterly tone deaf into the bargain.
I had hopes as he matured that he’d realise he didn’t have to pick ‘stoushes’ with everyone who wouldn’t let him push them around, but no such luck. It seems bound to his personality with superglue.
Nevertheless, I’m trying a new tack and we’ll see if the old dog can learn the new trick of civility.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 23, 2021 5:00 pm

It would be straight from Lotteries House to the dealer for me. Or a couple of Rangies because you usually need a spare.
Green and with a blower?

Of course, what do you think I am a philistine. I would probably just get the V8 so as not to upset the proles. There was a great photo in the UK Car magazine of the old Arnage drifting around some track surrounded by smoke. I think they said they did about GBP1,000 worth of tyres for the day.

calli
calli
October 23, 2021 5:04 pm

I know what you meant, Rabz. She sat out the war in the Pacific, waiting for the Japanese invasion. A young girl, running the household in place of her mother who had died years earlier.

An understanding between her father and herself that neither would be taken alive. What a burden for a fifteen year old.

Still in her own home, cooking and cleaning and being a dutiful homemaker, and thankfully spared again. And she’s hopping mad! She hasn’t bought a bit of it, but Dad is more easily convinced.

areff
areff
October 23, 2021 5:04 pm

Calli, so true. Here am i at an age when I should be on the road a bit more … former plans trashed to visit Lake Eyre, spend some time in the Flinders Ranges, cut across via the Dig Tree to the coast and visit friends scattered from Woy Woy to Loch Sport …. and, of course, visit the States to catch up with young Ned and my ex.

If I have 20 years left, this bloody lockdown and Premier Pig have stolen 10% of my life’s reserve. That was one part of Haigh’s piece that rang a loud and angry bell. What I didn’t like about it was his glib slur of the protesters as lumpen numpties or whatever. I suppose he had to chuck that in so as not to entirely compromise his welcome at the ABC.

calli
calli
October 23, 2021 5:06 pm

“Extinction Rebellion gluefests”.

A less gutless police force would load the water cannon with thinners.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 23, 2021 5:06 pm

incoherent ramblersays:

October 23, 2021 at 4:04 pm

A 1 million years of earthquakes at one inch per earthquake.

Not according to my Bible.

Tom
Tom
October 23, 2021 5:07 pm

For Australia’s best young (Pommy) trainer of thoroughbreds., I want Mo’unga to win the Cox Plate for Annabel Neisham. But I have backed joseph O’Brien’s State of Rest (at $8.50, now clipped to $8). O’Brien doesn’t send them around the world from his Irish base to come second — the freight is too expensive, especially this year.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
October 23, 2021 5:10 pm

Look at this massive swollen syphilitic belle end..

Can you feel the reconciliation dripping from its japs eye?

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-10-23/aboriginal-legal-service-urges-police-improve-relations-jc-trial/100562424

Aboriginal Legal Service chief executive Dennis Eggington said he was not surprised by the outcome.
“I’m shocked, upset but I’m just still determined to make sure this just makes us stronger,” he said.

“[I’m] very, very disappointed but not surprised.*

“If you understand that the nature of the relationship that this country has with its First Nations people, its relationship with settler society interests far outweigh the interests of the First Nations peoples.**

“And if that’s going to be the case, then these sorts of matters and these sorts of incidents will continue to occur until this country can grow up.”***
He is urging police to improve relations with Aboriginal communities.****

“It hasn’t been one where the relationship itself has healed since those frontier wars,” Professor Eggington said. *****

“I think it raises questions about First Nations people still living in an occupied country. How do we fix that?” ******

* unfortunately he doesnt mean, Mad woman brandishing a knife was shot, not surprising”…
*Ok lets play that game. You lost, Your primitive stone age tribes were beaten by less than 200 soldiers armed with muzzle loading muskets. How pathetic.
*** Is mr Fuckheadington saying Australia should “grow up” and accept drug rooted people wandering the streets with kitchen knives?
**** Aboriginals make up around 10% of the population of Feraldton. A rough estimate would have well over 50% of police callouts related to that 10%. Many of those call outs are from other Aboriginal people requesting assistance from police.
***** If its a war then Mabo has no legal basis. Thanks for playing, fuck along now race baiter.
****** By not being a drug addled loon who threatens people then carries around knives in public could be a start.

I do have a lot of sympathy for the lady, she had no chance once the druggies and users in her own community decided to enable her self destructive behavior.
Id also note no-one who “cared” for her has run her dealers out of town or shopped them to the cops.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 23, 2021 5:14 pm

areff.
This is Planet Cornelius from a year ago.
Brilliant juxtaposition of the hypocrisy by Rukshan.
Just brilliant.

Tom
Tom
October 23, 2021 5:14 pm

Yes! State of Rest!

calli
calli
October 23, 2021 5:15 pm

glib slur of the protesters as lumpen numpties

Yes. And there is an unescapable element of truth in that, because of the nature of protest from the “right”, or even its mere appearance. It has to be derided and dismissed, it has to appear weak. In some instances, it has to be subverted by provocateurs conveniently placed to attract eyeballs. We all know the MO by now.

Meanwhile, anything from the left gets a free pass. Until it’s so egregious, so outrageous, it can’t be suppressed. And then some handy fallguys appear as if by magic.

The outlier was the CFMEU demo – and see how fast that disappeared after making their point.

areff
areff
October 23, 2021 5:19 pm

Hope had a poultice on it, Tom

Tom
Tom
October 23, 2021 5:23 pm

Protest second against first! Fuck off, Willo.

Bruce reckons there’s never been a successful protest against the winner of the Cox Plate.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 23, 2021 5:23 pm

Has everyone seen the Gideon Haigh article in the Oz?
I am not normally a fan of his, but this is pitch perfect brilliance.
If it doesn’t offend copyright, I will cut and paste should others like to see it.

Dot
Dot
October 23, 2021 5:23 pm

Why then, is a change in relative prices even considered inflation? There are several kinds of inflation, but central bank induced inflation is not what we’re experiencing at the moment.

I understand it is a supply shock. In the long run, it isn’t inflation. Demand pull and cost push only make sense in the absence of growth (in the long run).

You are seeing a decline in purchasing power as the economy has shrunk (negative growth). We have also had monetary accommodation to allow regulated labour markets to function. So purchasing power really took it badly.

COVID or not, we were in deep shit from late 2019 IIRC. CBs in the west injected MASSIVE amounts of M2 in around late September IIRC.

We averted a banking crisis and substituted it for high commodity prices, lower purchasing power and a lack of housing affordability.

Did the COVID shutdowns cause a decline in purchasing power or did they lower potential output, thereby lowering purchasing power? The second one is correct, but the distinction is very important.

Tom
Tom
October 23, 2021 5:27 pm

Kung Flu fascism means there is ZERO public scrutiny of the second-against-first protest in the Cox Plate. No-one allowed inside the stewards room; it’s normally a public hearing.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 23, 2021 5:29 pm

JCsays:

October 23, 2021 at 4:01 pm

Do we have geologists here?

Dude, are you kidding? We have volcanologists, campanologists, precision plough engineers, sexologists. We have the whole kit and caboodle of …olgists here.

Are there any apologists?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 23, 2021 5:31 pm

A little morsel from Haigh’s article:’

Remember when they were suburbs rather than LGAs? Remember when we had not “road maps” but just plans? Alas, the self-inflating propensities of bureaucratic language now preclude anything so simple.

Milestones? Always grim. Deaths of nonagenarians? Always tragic. “The science”? Always guiding. Except for the weird ­anthropomorphism of the virus, variously “cunning”, “clever”, “wicked”, “evil” etc. And who could forget crowd pleasers like “creeping assumptions” and ­Unified Security?

I loved it when the virus developed it’s own malevolence and strategic intent.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
October 23, 2021 5:32 pm

New one for Danocchio 🙂

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5C-TftHSio

calli
calli
October 23, 2021 5:34 pm

Lol. Calls for a geologist and up pops Rockdoctor!

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
October 23, 2021 5:37 pm

We averted a banking crisis and substituted it for high commodity prices, lower purchasing power and a lack of housing affordability.

The non asset owning classess averted Dot.
Those who had property, shares and other assets saw the inflation of prices in those items.
Those receiving a wage or asset poor paid for the banking crisis.

Oh, and this bloke.
https://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/04/magazine/only-one-top-banker-jail-financial-crisis.html

Apparently the only one who did anything criminal in the entire GFC meltdown.

rosie
rosie
October 23, 2021 5:39 pm

I thought Haigh was saying ‘join the club’ when he mentioned them being in the CBD because angry.
None of us will get the last two years back.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 23, 2021 5:40 pm

Macca at 3:38 – The smart Viccos who can have already fled.

Hard to tell without being on the ground but I imagine it’s Cain/Kirner redux. Took about 20 years to unwind that.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
October 23, 2021 5:40 pm

We have the whole kit and caboodle of …olgists here.

We lost our leading wrongologist…
Unless Munty is festering in the background.

local oaf
October 23, 2021 5:40 pm

Wonderful stuff here.Solidarity is not dead.

Don’t read the comments – most are sickening

JC
JC
October 23, 2021 5:41 pm

Just get a load of this hallucinating drivel from the military analyst and former bed pan attendant.

And he’s posse’ing up too.

He’s always been like that – it happens every time the market goes down* and his ego is bruised.
*(Insert comment on how the economy is going gangbusters and he’s never been wealthier.)

Actually I’ve never ever said that, but I’m sure it will kill him when he reads it, I am. It’s been going gangbusters for stocks. Stocks have gone up to record levels and a pile of US bank stocks I own are at record levels since the GFC. And there’s real estate at record levels. You’d have to be a retarded bed panner to miss out.

I got on to the Old Cat about 2005? and he’s always been an obnoxious pig of a man, and utterly tone deaf into the bargain.

What he means by this is that I’m really nice to people I like and not so much to people I don’t like… Like turtle head himself. He’s been dying to get my approval for years, but it’s never going to happen. He does this by either grovelling to me, or posseing up to abuse me.

I had hopes as he matured that he’d realise he didn’t have to pick ‘stoushes’ with everyone who wouldn’t let him push them around, but no such luck.

People, keep in mind that this last sentence is coming from a person who’s venting with another stoush with me because I’ve said I don’t respect his views and opinions and don’t wish to ever converse with him. Yet turtle head is claiming I start stoushes.

It seems bound to his personality with superglue.

Anyone care to untangle this nonsense?

Nevertheless, I’m trying a new tack and we’ll see if the old dog can learn the new trick of civility.

I’m actually very civil to the moron. I ignore him until he tries to rattle my chain by attempting to get my attention.

Everyone watch. Watch the next time who it is that tries to initiate an engagement. It’s not me. Watch how the coward always speaks in the third person.. as though he could persuade anyone.

No, will we? Yes, let’s ask him to tell us how the Chinese military could invade Australia by landing troops on China Airlines at Melbourne airport. According to this military genius, the Chinese will mount an invasion from our southern border using civilian airlines. The invasion will come from the south. Makes tons of sense. The southern invasion.

hahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahhahahaha

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 23, 2021 5:44 pm

Sancho – See WolfmanOz’s comment on the previous page.

Tom
Tom
October 23, 2021 5:44 pm

Cox Plate protest dismissed! State of Rest wins! You beauty!

A Suggestion
A Suggestion
October 23, 2021 5:45 pm

I’m actually very civil to the moron.

Oh look, the oligarch attempting to be civil. Some new interpretation of the word that I’m unfamiliar with. Go back to your trading desk you prick.

Rabz
October 23, 2021 5:49 pm

she sat out the war in the Pacific, waiting for the Japanese invasion. A young girl, running the household in place of her mother who had died years earlier. An understanding between her father and herself that neither would be taken alive. What a burden for a fifteen year old.

While my ol’ man was administering a frontline field hospital in New Guinea, sans medicine or equipment, courtesy of our beloved wharfies.

It never twigged why he hated them with such a visceral passion until after he’d died and I finally looked up his service history.

They were the greatest generation. We tread timidly in their mighty shadows.

P
P
October 23, 2021 5:50 pm

New one for Danocchio ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5C-TftHSio

Great Rockdocter. I loved it!

JC
JC
October 23, 2021 5:51 pm

Oh look, the oligarch attempting to be civil. Some new interpretation of the word that I’m unfamiliar with. Go back to your trading desk you prick.

And another outstanding comment from the government clerk. (He’s as interesting as a car park attendant.. this one). The commie abuses me because I respond to the military analyst’s comments about me and where I’ve said my wish is that Turtle Head never corresponds with me again.

I think mentioning he’s a government scab is kind of getting him. He is a scab working for the government.

A Suggestion
A Suggestion
October 23, 2021 5:53 pm

And another outstanding comment from the government clerk. (He’s as interesting as a car park attendant.. this one). The commie abuses me because I respond to the military analyst’s comments about me and where I’ve said my wish is that Turtle Head never corresponds with me again.

No, I abuse you because you’re a disgusting abusive oligarch. Stop the abusing people and just post your content, which is quite useful.

Old bloke
Old bloke
October 23, 2021 5:54 pm

Sancho Panzer says:
October 23, 2021 at 3:57 pm

Not according to my Bible.
How could all that stuff happen in the 7,658 years since creation?

Kent Hovind makes a good attempt at answering those questions, worth watching if you’ve got a spare 10 hours or so:
Kent Hovind Creation Seminars

There’s a 6 minute trailer here.

JC
JC
October 23, 2021 5:55 pm

Funny, but I think I’ve collected another bunch of battered wivesagain. Listen to them all whining about me amongst themselves. All wanting to have me banned. What a sad bunch. To sum up, I think the funniest comment of the day came from Faulty2 appealing to Dover to turn the site into a flying school blog by banning me. Fucking sad.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
October 23, 2021 5:55 pm

New one for Danocchio ?

+++

Rabz
October 23, 2021 5:57 pm

I think I’ve collected another bunch of battered wives (again)

Such an achievement needs to be celebrated with the viewing of many Goose Springsteen videos, Squire. 🙂

A Suggestion
A Suggestion
October 23, 2021 5:58 pm

Funny, but I think I’ve collected another bunch of battered wivesagain. Listen to them all whining about me amongst themselves. All wanting to have me banned. What a sad bunch. To sum up, I think the funniest comment of the day came from Faulty2 appealing to Dover to turn the site into a flying school blog by banning me. Fucking sad.

JC it’s not sad. What’s sad is your apparent need to abuse people who post here. Stop it. You make your point quite well without the abuse.

JC
JC
October 23, 2021 5:59 pm

No, I abuse you because you’re a disgusting abusive oligarch.

No, you abuse me because I once took you to task for posting about the good things about communism and how much better it is compared to capitalism. You still haven’t gotten over that beating and now link up with anyone here who abuses me. You’re a sad, poor man’s antifa. A laughable leftwing clown with zero redeeming qualities.

Stop the abusing people and just post your content, which is quite useful.

I have for some of the day, but I will respond in kind to any abuse directed to me especially from a government parasite.

As others have said to you. Fuck off.

Zipster
Zipster
October 23, 2021 6:03 pm

No, I abuse you because you’re a disgusting abusive oligarch.

JC an oligarch??? bwhahahahahahaha thanks for that I needed a good laugh

Baba
Baba
October 23, 2021 6:04 pm

Two 90-year-old men, Paddy and Mick have been friends all of their lives. When it’s clear that Paddy is dying, Mick visits him every day. One day Mick says, “We both loved football all our lives, and we played football on Saturdays together for so many years. Please do me one favour, when you get to Heaven, somehow you must let me know if there’s football there.”

Paddy looks up at Mick from his death bed and says: “Mick you’ve been my best friend for many years. If it’s at all possible, I’ll do this favour for you.”

Shortly after that, Paddy dies.

At midnight a couple of nights later, Mick is awakened from a sound sleep by a blinding flash of white light and a voice calling out to him, “Mick… Mick…”

“Who is it?” Asks Mick sitting up suddenly. “Who is it?”

“Mick. It’s me, Paddy…”

“You’re not Paddy, Paddy just died.”

“I’m telling you, it’s me, Paddy.” insists the voice.

“Paddy Where are you?”

“In Heaven”, he replies. “I have some really good news and a little bad news.”

“Tell me the good news first,” says Mick.

“The good news,” paddy says, “is that there’s football in heaven.

Better yet, all of our old friends who died before us are here, too.

Better than that, we’re all young again.

And best of all, we can play football all we want, and we never get tired.”

“That’s fantastic,” says Mick. “It’s beyond my wildest dreams! So what could possibly be the bad news? ”

“You’re in the team for Saturday.”

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 23, 2021 6:04 pm

An understanding between her father and herself that neither would be taken alive. What a burden for a fifteen year old.

The wives and daughters of one of the locals where I used to live, never found out until after he was dead and gone, that he was prepared to shoot them all, rather then have them taken alive….

Rabz
October 23, 2021 6:04 pm

JC – for goodness sake, mate, you don’t have to spend your time here dishing out abuse left, right and centre.

Move onto some comfortable turf and talk at length about your unabashed love of neo-brutalism, Squire.

We need to hear it.

JC
JC
October 23, 2021 6:07 pm

JC an oligarch??? bwhahahahahahaha thanks for that I needed a good laugh

I know right. Like I wish I would be given the monopoly to something useful like the brewery monopoly .. even cigs. Or how about an old favorite of mine.. refineries. How fucking cool would it be if you had the monopoly on oil refining. That would be like heaven. That reminds me.. It’s time for Real estate porn.

caveman
caveman
October 23, 2021 6:08 pm

JC don’t make them change you. Everyone is different.
Diversity that’s the strength.

JC
JC
October 23, 2021 6:09 pm

Rabz, its not me and I will respond to c..ts. Tell them to stop. For instance tell Turtle Head to stop talking to me or about me. He’s a battered wife from the old blog.

dopey
dopey
October 23, 2021 6:11 pm

There was definitely some bumping Tom but it would have been outrageous to take it off the winner.

JC
JC
October 23, 2021 6:11 pm

Caveman..

One thing Turtle head said is correct. I haven’t changed since the weasel has skulked around right wing blogs since 2005. I’ll never fucking change. If a turd is a turd, then he’s a turd and I’m not going to call him otherwise.

calli
calli
October 23, 2021 6:12 pm

Zulu, Mum knew. Grandpa didn’t go into details, but she trusted him. New had got through to him about island groups not so far away that had fallen. A terrible, terrible time.

But they were a tough lot. He was friends in his youth with some missionaries not so far away who had been slaughtered by natives. The whole family, women and children. And not all that long before, there was the threat of bushmen attacking. Things quietened down, and then war came. He never went anywhere without a weapon.

They were pleased to see the Americans land. Until they used his plantation for target practise.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
October 23, 2021 6:12 pm

I swear i didnt know this existed till i just typed it in..

JC, your dream real estate.

Maybe we should all chip in and stick it on Lake Burley Griffin?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 23, 2021 6:13 pm

Ah, sorry.
I see Tom posted the Haigh article at 3:05.
Highly recommended.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
October 23, 2021 6:13 pm

Even just a little one to start with.
Can we buy a block next to Bob brows place?

Tom
Tom
October 23, 2021 6:16 pm

Quite so, Dopey at 6.11pm. Horse racing is one of the few sports that political activists haven’t destroyed.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 23, 2021 6:17 pm

Can we buy a block next to Bob Brown’s place?

Well he’s had an epiphany about wind turbines having discovered they kill lots of Tasmanian birdies, so maybe he’ll also have a Damascene conversion to nukes too.

Makka
Makka
October 23, 2021 6:19 pm

JC – for goodness sake, mate, you don’t have to spend your time here dishing out abuse left, right and centre.

Thumbs up.

Wake tf up JC. There’s no need for your viciousness and demeaning abuse. There’s enough shyte in this world without your bile added. The failed NY charm school vibe really is obnoxious. Put your arguments (often important) civilly and get some discussion happening even the kind you vehemently disagree with. This doesn’t apply to the filth, of course.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
October 23, 2021 6:22 pm

Okey dok. Started at start of this thread, old thread; well am not reading a weeks comments to find out what I have missed.

Deepest holes you say, Russians drilled a 9″ diameter hole nearly 13km into the crust. Still a record. Took nearly 20 years and when I saw the diameter I am not surprised. Widest I have had anything to do with has been 6″ and they take ages. Yanks still have deeper holes than the Chicoms, google Project Mohoe, where they tried to get to the Mohorovicic Discontinuity which is the boundary between the crust and mantle. They made around 11km and proved it was possible if anyone could be bothered.

Oil and gas drill some insanely deep holes but they have the advantage of not having to go down there with a shaft. I know of tenements onshore Australia where 3-4km isn’t unusual. As a coal miner deepest I have ever supervised was 1400m, the problem becomes at that depth is getting sample out. Chip samples on muds with a UDR1200 near impossible without a massive compressor, we were coring which depended on the length of the winch. Also we were just fishing for information to help with the model so hole deviation wasn’t a big deal when geophysics are applied and the ground was very faulted. Oil and gas holes have to be very straight, i.e. very little deviation. To do that you need to be able to hold the rod string from being accelerated by gravity, usually the rigs are much bigger than the truck mounted rigs I am used to.

Technology to drill to the mantle has been around since the 1960’s if one wants to. Sounds like another example of the Chicoms being still insecure about the size of their appendage. Russians and Yanks gave up on this decades ago.

PS Happy to be corrected by deep drilling roughnecks with more expertise than I on the subject.

JC
JC
October 23, 2021 6:23 pm

Mole

The refinery story goes back to last year when oil was at -US$37 a barrel on the futures exchange. Yes, the minus sign is actually a negative. To digress oil is theatrically up 37 plus 82 = 119 . It’s actually up 120 in just over 12 months.

I was listening to Karl Ichan on CNBC talking about shit during the downturn last year. He’s always interesting and has always been a hero of mine.
Anyway, he talked about the oil market being in negative territory and what he thought. He said .. to paraphrase.. how he called his guys down south where he owns a couple of refineries and made them buy more oil at negative prices even though they had little storage facilities. I thought, man that’s so freaking cool. Imagine getting on TV and telling the interviewer how you own a couple of refineries etc.

P
P
October 23, 2021 6:26 pm

Horse racing is one of the few sports that political activists haven’t destroyed.

Check out this one –

Rockdoctorsays:
October 23, 2021 at 5:32 pm
New one for Danocchio ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5C-TftHSio

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
October 23, 2021 6:27 pm

JC
You and the battered wives need to go shares in the refinery,
Always wise to invest with those you dislike.

Dad always went halves in a lotto ticket with a stereotypical loud mouthed yank he worked with and hated.
I asked him why, his reply “Because if that wanker won lotto by himself Id have to neck myself’…

JC
JC
October 23, 2021 6:30 pm

Put your arguments (often important) civilly and get some discussion happening even the kind you vehemently disagree with.

Tell me this makka.. Do you follow your own advice though? You once called me a c..t for disagreeing (not abusing) but disagreeing with you.

I have faulty2 0/6 in his science calls and comments ( not predictions). This c..t pulls out the appeal to authority schtick. Mr Goofy does the same when he’s wrong. Last evening Mr Goofy hahah’ed how a director could be shot because directors direct, he said. They aren’t in scenes.

I then explained to Mr Goofy that his opinion was wrong and why. He told me to go suck eggs. There are a lot of people here who go nuts at being wrong. I won’t ever back down with dipsticks and scumbags.
Just not me.

JC
JC
October 23, 2021 6:31 pm

mole

very funny story.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
October 23, 2021 6:34 pm

I brought a nice little packet of Sydney Airport shares… based on JCs reasoning
At about $5.70
$8.35 now.
JC is my spirit animal.
https://www.google.com/finance/quote/SYD:ASX?sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiF-OH-geDzAhXHfX0KHZmTBf0Q3ecFegQIDRAc&window=1Y

Indolent
Indolent
October 23, 2021 6:34 pm

She is using her much derided “commie pass” to have her hair done next week. She has had enough of looking like a scarecrow.

Maybe we were just lucky, but this is the one area where we struck no problems. No questions asked.

And, according to this, hardly any business in Victoria are asking for vaccine proof. I hope that’s true. It’s definitely not true generally in N.S.W. where everyone seems to have been panicked by the government into doing something which could ultimately damage them in more ways than one. Let them try to get redress from government!

JC
JC
October 23, 2021 6:35 pm

Rock doc
That’s hugely interesting.. 13 K.. wow.

Tell me, how deep do you have to go in a mine for it to begin feeling hot as a result of the core beneath?

Indolent
Indolent
October 23, 2021 6:37 pm

Dispatches from a Scamdemic.

THE VAXX IS A STATE-SPONSORED RELIGION

Oh come on
Oh come on
October 23, 2021 6:39 pm

WA Aboriginal Legal Service urges police to improve relations after JC trial verdict

What the hell did you do, JC?? Even the Aboriginals are cracking the shits over you.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 23, 2021 6:39 pm

Line up, line up!

COVID-19 vaccine: Booster shots expected from November 8, aged care residents and staff among first to get the extra jab (Sky News, 23 Oct)

Everyone gets a free lottery ticket: prizes include myocarditis, stroke, DVTs and autoimmune diseases!

Rabz
October 23, 2021 6:40 pm

You once called me a c..t for disagreeing with you

And many moons later, this even matters, Squire?

Times are not ideal. Talk about those things that invigorate you.

How are the renos going in the NY apartment?

JC
JC
October 23, 2021 6:42 pm

LOL. OCO..

The traditional owners? Or those who have taken ownership of the site? Yea, the traditional owners are very upset. I know one is just dying to jump in now, but he’s thinking about it and if it’s safe to do so.

Rabz
October 23, 2021 6:42 pm

Hey Bruce – you up for some Li’l Miss Ellie* a bit later?

*in a figurative sense, of course …

Oh come on
Oh come on
October 23, 2021 6:45 pm

I wonder what Dylan Voller’s up to. Living his best life, I’ll bet.

JC
JC
October 23, 2021 6:46 pm

How are the renos going in the NY apartment?

Dude, the renos were done two years ago and we’ve been in it for about 5 weeks.. wifey a little longer. Kid’s squatted and I doubt she’ll ever leave. I’m only heading there in the warm weather.. Late April/May next year.

Indolent
Indolent
October 23, 2021 6:46 pm
Oh come on
Oh come on
October 23, 2021 6:47 pm

If anyone with a dark sense of humour feels like a laugh, Michael Malice’s Twitter feed is pretty hilarious at present.

Rabz
October 23, 2021 6:48 pm

Still in schlockdown, people. 🙁

But there is always hope. Hence the gardening this morning.

JC
JC
October 23, 2021 6:48 pm

Lol yea.. Dylan Voller.
Dylan Voller obviously living a life of Riley these days with the lawsuit win.

Wasn’t Dylan Voller an inspiration for a blog?

Rabz
October 23, 2021 6:49 pm

Good to hear, JC. Count your blessings (including the miss) and not your troubles.

JC
JC
October 23, 2021 6:50 pm

Dr. Steven Hotze Warns About the Dangerous Ingredients in COVID-19 Vaccines, Including Graphene Oxide

Indolent. I have graphene oxide as a health drink every lunchtime . It’s fine. Stop worrying.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 23, 2021 6:51 pm

Technology to drill to the mantle has been around since the 1960’s if one wants to.

A fun SF novel which explores such things is A Specter Is Haunting Texas by Fritz Leiber. I should dig it out and reread it since it’s been decades since I did. The politics and genetic stuff may be quite relevant to the insanity of 2021, and the geology was fun too.

Rabz
October 23, 2021 6:52 pm

In the meantime – why must I be so lonely?

Because, as Arks might observe, you’re a crotchety ol’ dinobore. 😕

MatrixTransform
October 23, 2021 6:53 pm

Is it true?

Dan Andrews needs a golf-ball proof vest?

Oh come on
Oh come on
October 23, 2021 6:53 pm

Is that blog still up?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 23, 2021 6:56 pm

Hey Bruce – you up for some Li’l Miss Ellie* a bit later?

Rabz – I still have earworms from last week going around and around! So apologies from me, also I broke my record: 154 km on treadly this week, nearly 30 of that today. Been trying to get the lockdown inflated winter pillow out from under my belly button. Early night I think is in order, at least that’s what my muscles are saying.

Bons
October 23, 2021 6:57 pm

It wasn’t an incident. Incidents are minor bingle in the car park.
It was a killing. An innocent human died as a consequence of an arrogant, careless criminal shooting her.

Rabz
October 23, 2021 6:57 pm

Been trying to get the lockdown inflated winter pillow out from under my belly button

Haven’t we all. Only just back to three runs a week (finally).

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
October 23, 2021 6:58 pm

JC deepest I been down in Aus was a metalliferous mine at 1300m. 40 dec C and very humid due to ground water. Coalmines on the other hand rarely in Aus go down more than 400-500m in Queensland, there are lots of things that can go bang and the deeper you get the difficulties increase.

I know South Africa have mines that go very deep to 4000m but again they are metalliferous and not coal.

In a nutshell, depends on temperature and groundwater. Some areas the temperature increase slowly as you descend, other areas quickly. I know the Broken Hill deposit goes down to about 4km they know of, the ground water problems (i.e. If you can’t pump it out quick enough it will flood) kept it to a quarter of that. I won’t even start on the head of water from 1000m down.

Bons
October 23, 2021 7:03 pm

I need advice. I am unable to heap abuse and threats on my local member over Photios’s whore surrendering our nation to the Portugese commie.
He is an independent and opposes Morrisson’s treason. But I still need to vent my spleen on one of the bastards.
Options please.
Rudd lives around the corner – there may be some options there.

jupes
jupes
October 23, 2021 7:21 pm

The current two-tier, ‘vaccination economy’ continues indefinitely. On the 25th April next year, people could be gathering to pay tribute to the ANZACs on the very same day that some of those very ANZACs are prohibited from having a gun fire breakfast in a cafe, attending the football, or possibly even eating at the RSL. Honouring people at the same time that you are treating them as second class citizens? No, they can fuck off.

This.

What a fascist shithole Australia has become.

Bar Beach Swimmer
October 23, 2021 7:24 pm

Bons, go for the senators.

rosie
rosie
October 23, 2021 7:25 pm

No need to be sorry Dover it’s your blog, just putting up a request for my favs for the next open thread, or whenever.
I’ve seen a couple of etchings here and there, just prefer full colour illustrations.

Rabz
October 23, 2021 7:26 pm

jupes – how are ya, squire?

Rabz
October 23, 2021 7:29 pm

Bluddee hell – a young woman before the blossoming.

Rabz
October 23, 2021 7:32 pm
Dot
Dot
October 23, 2021 7:33 pm

What the hell did you do, JC?? Even the Aboriginals are cracking the shits over you.

He said he was from the Olympic Dam tribe.

He’s not, I am the elder of that tribe and I disavow.

Cassie of Sydney
October 23, 2021 7:34 pm

I’ve had a very nice afternoon, drinking French champagne with family….a nephew engaged. Good times. Happy times.

Cassie of Sydney
October 23, 2021 7:35 pm

“What a fascist shithole Australia has become.”

Yep….and without a shot fired.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
October 23, 2021 7:39 pm

Wifes on the south coast this week. No double jab checks at all.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
October 23, 2021 7:41 pm

Better news, Roger is looking so young in his latest movie on Gem. Don’t know how he does it.

rickw
rickw
October 23, 2021 7:43 pm

Recreation of what happened with Alec Baldwin:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9r7RXWSsEQ4

JC
JC
October 23, 2021 7:44 pm

Oh come on says:
October 23, 2021 at 6:53 pm

Is that blog still up?

Upright. Of course.

Roger
Roger
October 23, 2021 7:47 pm

Better news, Roger is looking so young in his latest movie on Gem. Don’t know how he does it.

Good genes.

Zipster
Zipster
October 23, 2021 7:50 pm
Winston Smith
October 23, 2021 7:51 pm

Zipster:

this is well worth watching, at the end he talks about the looming ‘climate lockdowns’ to save humanity. the neo-dark age has well and truly started

There’s a couple of glaring omissions in that video –
1. The Californian government mandating the trucks picking up containers must comply with new pollution control rules, meaning they must be 3 years old or less.
2. The Port owners not hiring private owners to move the containers. Are the docks Union only?
3. Continued fallout from the “Evergiven” blockage of the Suez Canal.

calli
calli
October 23, 2021 7:51 pm

If you’re thinking Albrecht Durer, Melancholia fits my current mood perfectly.

Waiting…waiting…waiting, compasses in hand, inspiration just beyond the horizon.

JC
JC
October 23, 2021 7:52 pm

Bringing up yesterday’s dirt as I didn’t have time to respond.

Struth was having a go at people here who vaccinated, suggesting they’re in cahoots with the government or shit along these lines. I was vaxxed first at the beginning of April and then the subsequent shot in early May. There was no serious discussion then that the unvaxxed would be persona non grata. This is a problem with a lot of people unfortunately, they make up their own story line because they’ve lived in a different movie.

What a monstrous libel by the man from the furniture store.

Muddy
Muddy
October 23, 2021 7:52 pm

Rockdoctor says:
October 23, 2021 at 5:32 pm

New one for Danocchio ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5C-TftHSio

Awesome as usual. It gets off to a slow start out of the gate, but the race call beginning about half way is a cracker. It’s a shame that the viewing numbers have been so low for most of the episodes except for ‘Dannings.’

Arky
October 23, 2021 7:53 pm

Help wanted on my new thread.

  1. Everything about the Skripals/ Sturgess case smells to high heaven. It’s worth following the Dawn Sturgess inquiry currently. Overnight, the…

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