Open Thread-Weekend 23 Oct 2021


Bertran de Born – Eighth Circle, Gustave Dore, 1860s

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Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
October 24, 2021 8:58 am

In Twitchy Bums at the Collective news:

Labor MP criticises Prime Minister over climate change policy uncertainty

Labor MP Andrew Giles says the Prime Minister has changed his tune on climate change after a “scare campaign” during the last election, in which Labor had ambitious climate targets and was defeated.

So there’s a problem with the Liberals sneaking up on a Labor policy turd?
Andrew Who?

It’s Sunday, and the better winged monkeys are still abed.

Pogria
Pogria
October 24, 2021 8:59 am

areffsays:
October 24, 2021 at 7:41 am
i think the nazis had several different police forces

He went Hollywood after completing his http://berlinnoir.com/ trilogy, but Phillip Kerr’s novels about Nazi era cop Bernie Gunther are very good for grasping how the various police divisions worked, cooperated or not.

Thanks for the tip areff.

I am a bit of a fan of WWI and WWII. Not in a gruesome way, in a learn from our past way. My parents were teens when the war started, and after they had been married and had four kids, they escaped out of their home country which had become Communist since the war. Always grateful they chose Aus to migrate to. In the early Seventies when my father was still alive, I used to stay up late to watch the World at War series on the box with him. I recently purchased the remastered boxed set of World at War. As I remember, watching it was a real eye opener to a fourteen year old.
Currently I am reading The Battle for Spain by Antony Beevor, and I have his brick of a book on World War Two to read after. I will Search out the Berlin Noir you’ve recommended. They sound great.

I prefer real books to electronic. As someone wrote recently, create as large a library as you can of REAL books as the electronic ones are, and have been, too easily changed. History is being rewritten before our eyes.

rosie
rosie
October 24, 2021 9:00 am

I think the problem with the mRnas is myocarditis mostly in young men.
Early research re young women iirc is early speculation.

Indolent
Indolent
October 24, 2021 9:00 am

EXPOSING VACCINE PASSPORTS
I just watched this interview on The Highwire which was linked earlier and it would have to be the scariest thing I have ever seen.

Vaccine passports are just the beginning. This is every nightmare thought up by Klaus Schwab and his henchmen being brought into reality. They really do want to literally hook us up to the internet under total surveillance. This is what they said so we shouldn’t be too surprised but this clip reveals the means and it is already technically feasible. Just terrifying.

Rorschach
Rorschach
October 24, 2021 9:04 am

COVID in the Amish communities…

We hate government we hate public education systems and we hate the health system

They let the couf run though the community, achieved herd immunity… did not shut down and they made more money than ever before. Abt what you’d expect.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=337&v=O1DgWYdukZU&feature=emb_title

rosie
rosie
October 24, 2021 9:05 am
calli
calli
October 24, 2021 9:07 am

Doc or nurse Cats may know the answer. Is it easier to hit a vein in a male arm, rather than a female? Reason I ask is because talk of relocation of spike proteins out of the muscle and into the bloodstream could be a delivery issue and may be as simple and basic as that.

Zatara
Zatara
October 24, 2021 9:08 am

Hard to see why anyone would persist with state education in the US

Odd, I’d have thought AUS state education would have been more of a concern here.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
October 24, 2021 9:13 am

Cop26 menu focuses on plant-based dishes with 80% Scottish food

Delegates will be served dishes such as potato, leek and rosemary chowder, smoked salmon and “a spiced mushroom and onion burger served with a vegan tomato mayo, slaw and shoots”.</blockquote

This is 0% Scottish food.
You would be beaten to death trying to sell a spiced mushroom burger along Sauchiehall Street after closing.
Trust me on this.

Dot
Dot
October 24, 2021 9:16 am

They really do want to literally hook us up to the internet under total surveillance. This is what they said so we shouldn’t be too surprised but this clip reveals the means and it is already technically feasible. Just terrifying

Hate to be a damp old duffer, but aren’t we already there?

Dot
Dot
October 24, 2021 9:17 am

Leek soup – possibly Welsh.

“English Colcannon”
“Russian Paella”
“Genuine Manx Pizzas”

Mmyes.

rosie
rosie
October 24, 2021 9:18 am

Coronavirus seems to have been a bonanza for the medical research community.

Dot
Dot
October 24, 2021 9:18 am

Male arm definitely.

My arms are thick and vascular.

(Old fans of the Conservative Twins will get it…).

Mater
October 24, 2021 9:20 am

In Is There Anything Modelling Can’t Do? news:

I think between Covid and climate change, we are starting to approach the answer to George’s timeless question:

“Remember that all models are wrong; the practical question is how wrong do they have to be to not be useful.”
– George Box (one of the greatest statistical minds of the 20th century)

I think we might better ask:

“Remember that all models are wrong; the practical question is how wrong do they have to be to be incredibly destructive”.

rosie
rosie
October 24, 2021 9:20 am
Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 24, 2021 9:22 am

Australia may be left with almost a $1tn health bill by 2050 if it doesn’t boost the take-up of electric vehicles, according to a new report released on Sunday.

Exactly how is not driving EVs going to cause massive health costs?
Weird that anyone could believe such drivel.
And no I’m not clicking through a goolag link to a grauniad article.

JC
JC
October 24, 2021 9:22 am

Odd, I’d have thought AUS state education would have been more of a concern here.

You’re right, zat. Australians may not realise the potential power the parents have against the teachers and the boards.

Private schooling in the US, unlike Australia, are hamstrung by the fact that you don’t get the pass through subsidy in the US like here. In other words private schools receive government funding to a formula based on the cost of educating the kid at a government school.

American Parents have to double dip and it’s much more expensive to send a kid to a private school there.

America’s biggest obstacle is now the teachers unions. Get those scumbags under control and the listing ship ought to right itself.

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
October 24, 2021 9:22 am

Rosie – You’re correct. Apology from me

Great lead in for the classic line “Don’t apologise. It’s not that sort of a blog!”

Since words on a page can be misinterpreted, my body language is saying don’t change BoN.

JC
JC
October 24, 2021 9:29 am

I think the problem with the mRnas is myocarditis mostly in young men.
Early research re young women iirc is early speculation.

Rosie, my cardio said he’s seen quite a bit of it in younger males. It’s obviously a concern, but mild cases which nearly every single one has been, is not a huge concern. It can be dealt with easily.

Indolent
Indolent
October 24, 2021 9:31 am

Hate to be a damp old duffer, but aren’t we already there?

Not physically, no.

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
October 24, 2021 9:34 am

It can be dealt with easily.

Why blogs are bad for your health or why JC should get another cardio.
It can be dealt with easily by digging a hole, about 6 feet deep.

JC
JC
October 24, 2021 9:34 am

OSC

Are you doing dope? Mr Goofy is one of the worst here when it comes to not admitting he’s fucked up. Did you miss the flounce on Friday when Arky took him to task? Have you not seen his appeals to authority? How about the attitude when he fucked up about what directors do?

Stop hallucinating.

Cassie of Sydney
October 24, 2021 9:38 am

Douglas Murray nails it……”UK needs to have open discussion about threat of Islamic extremism”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rC6RDzQbZg

JC
JC
October 24, 2021 9:39 am

Rambler

Not everything with the heart is a major concern. Just as you’re doing now, people panic because it’s the heart and if it stops you die.

Go back and read what I said. A minor heart inflammation can be easily dealt with in a young male . Obviously , it should be avoided as but it’s not an end of life scenario.

johanna
johanna
October 24, 2021 9:39 am

Astonishing statistics on how dynamic capitalism actually works:

Amazon currently has 21 percent of the U.S. shipping market while UPS holds 24 percent of the market and FedEx has 16 percent. The USPS is the most dominant with 38 percent and all other shipping firms account for just 1 percent of the market, according to logistics and e-commerce tracking firm Pitney Bowes.

As recently as 2014, Amazon had no share whatsoever in the U.S. shipping market and relied primarily on shippers like FedEx and UPS, but now appears to be carving out a significant chunk of the market. Amazon has invested heavily into building its own delivery network of warehouses, trucks, planes, and drivers which has hugely strengthened its shipping and logistics department.

So, in less than a decade Amazon has picked up a fifth of the gigantic US shipping market. This is a remarkable achievement, by any standards, and cannot be attributed to monopoly advantages alone.

A while back I watched a doco on UPS and how it manages its logistics to get parcels of all shapes, sizes and weights from A to B in a day or two. It was a dazzling display of how technology and management can do extraordinary things – but it didn’t come cheap. I suppose that Amazon could afford to invest in what others had developed by trial and error.

Still, they must have had the brainpower and management skills to pull it off.

Meanwhile, here in Australia we wait while our parcels delivered overnight from the US languish for days and weeks at airports, holding centres and Australia Post warehouses.

rickw
rickw
October 24, 2021 9:42 am

Teachers are evil.
Worse than cops.

If you met members of either of these groups without knowledge of their position, there is no way you would leave your kids with them for a second.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 24, 2021 9:43 am

Pogria, you might enjoy the TIK youtube channel.

Cassie of Sydney
October 24, 2021 9:47 am

“In Is There Anything Modelling Can’t Do?”

Modelling is like astrology…..bunkum. In fact I would add that governments should just hire astrologers instead, they’d be more accurate. Once upon a time monarchs had astrologers such as the magician/wizard John Dee predicting the future using astrology. I reckon he was more accurate than the modelling of today.

Makka
Makka
October 24, 2021 9:47 am

Teachers are evil.
Worse than cops.

Yeah. Allie (from Today) on her tellie show talking with a group of young parents, playing head mistress;

“Put your hand up if you have ever smacked your child.”

This the same b**** that is happy for the unvaxxed to be labelled “duds” by her doctor mate.

rickw
rickw
October 24, 2021 9:48 am

Bit misleading Bruce, when you read through Moderna is paused for the under 30s.

Which says what about their testing and approval regime?

I expect that every single fucking one of them will get pulled at some point in time.

rickw
rickw
October 24, 2021 9:50 am

Once upon a time monarchs had astrologers such as the magician/wizard John Dee predicting the future using astrology.

I read that as John Deere, very confusing.

JC
JC
October 24, 2021 9:57 am

Rickw

You’re right they will get pulled. They’ll get taken off because the new stuff replacing them will hopefully be much better. Trust me, every one of those Pharma companies are working 24/7 to iron out the chinks and come out with a better product. In a few years time this should be past us.

Pogria
Pogria
October 24, 2021 9:57 am

Pogria, you might enjoy the TIK youtube channel.

Thanks FTB, will definitely look it up.

Earlier in this thread, someone linked to a clip of the Soviet plane that went down with almost the entire Naval group of Admirals. That was a REAL eye opener. It was well done and I was glued to it for the entire half hour. The Russkie accent of the narrator was a bonus!

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
October 24, 2021 9:58 am

Modelling is like astrology…..bunkum.

Bit harsh, but with a touch of fairness.
There’s a respectable place for modelling in stress-testing and refining ideas and designs and possible outcomes.

But as soon as people start believing models predict the future you are firmly in John Dee World.

vr
vr
October 24, 2021 9:58 am

Some music for this Sunday morning.

Los Colognes

Dot
Dot
October 24, 2021 10:06 am

Didn’t Dr John Deere write the 1st Farmer’s Almanac?

Roger
Roger
October 24, 2021 10:06 am

Queensland’s government house ‘Fernberg’ undergoing $120K in repairs and renovations ahead of Jeannette Young’s ascension to the ‘distant mountain’.

I trust they won’t be returning the bond to former tenant, Paul de Jersey.

Dot
Dot
October 24, 2021 10:13 am

Yeah. Allie (from Today) on her tellie show talking with a group of young parents, playing head mistress;

“Put your hand up if you have ever smacked your child.”

This the same b**** that is happy for the unvaxxed to be labelled “duds” by her doctor mate.

Hopefully she gets old and ugly soon.

The only reason why anyone looked at her is because she was once hotter than a stolen pistol.

People like her, will create harsh times.

Something about children ruling a nation.

Debbier
Debbier
October 24, 2021 10:23 am

Hi Cats, My daughter has just finished her first year as a graduate teacher. Here in Western Australia she is now required to be fully vaccinated by the beginning of term 1 2022. She said to me the other day Mum how can I take a vaccine that I have no idea what the consequences will be in years to come. I want to have children one day. Our family were sort of hanging out for the Novavax shot. Besides giving up on a career she spend 4 years studying for has any one on this blog got any other ideas.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
October 24, 2021 10:25 am

I’m trying to keep things calm with the family but two out of my three children are not speaking to us and I haven’t seen or spoken to my grandkids for over three weeks. It’s hard and getting harder.

Megan, it’s a sour taste when one’s own kids can turn on you, and I say this from experience, not re the vaxx but for other things. But it can all blow over if you give it time and keep calm and stay open to hearing from them without rancour and keeping the conversation on the grandkids. I know you have many health issues and these alone are enough for your kids to understand why you don’t want to take the vaxx. You have every right to feel very upset about their lack of concern for you. It is deeply hurtful. But younger people full of their own lives and business can often be rather callous.

When we were young I suppose most of us were not without sins in that regard either. Enjoy what you can of life now, for your own sake, taking each day for the simple pleasure of being in the world, and as Calli suggests, send little packages for the grandies. You are not alone in feeling a generational outcast at times; far from it. Loads of others have similar issues, if you talk with any group of older women.

Indolent
Indolent
October 24, 2021 10:29 am

Trust me, every one of those Pharma companies are working 24/7 to iron out the chinks and come out with a better product. In a few years time this should be past us.

If this actually had anything to do with a virus then perhaps, yes. However, just like the virus patents, the control infrastructure to literally enslave us was being put into place before the virus was even set loose. So, sorry to say, there is much more in play here than treating the sick.

The lockdowns might provide a clue. Never in history have whole populations been confined in response to a disease. You quarantine the sick, not confine the healthy and deprive them of all their rights, including the right to earn a living.

Cassie of Sydney
October 24, 2021 10:29 am

More mediocre journalism from the MSM…The Daily Telegraph.

“Walt Secord links vandal attacks to his stance on Nazi sympathisers”

“A NSW MP has requested security for his home after he was the subject of vandalism attacks following speaking out against Nazi sympathisers and anti-lockdown protesters.

A NSW MP has sought security for his home after he was the subject of vandalism attacks following statements he made in state parliament attacking Nazi sympathisers and anti-lockdown protesters.

Opposition police and counter-terrorism spokesman Walt Secord has written to the Department of Premier and Cabinet twice since late-August after the vandals struck on three separate occasions between late-August and mid-September.

Mr Secord, who is married to a Jewish woman and in June completed his own conversion to Judaism, has received anti-­Semitic threats online.

In a letter to former DPC ­director-general Tim Reardon, Mr Secord, who worked as a chief-of-staff to former premier Kristina Keneally before entering parliament, revealed his home had been the subject of a police security assessment, which had resulted in seven recommendations.

“I am writing to seek advice and assistance on what provisions or measures are available to assist with personal security for shadow ministers related to their parliamentary activity,” Mr Secord wrote.

“I am aware from my experience in 2010 as a Chief of Staff to the Premier that security upgrades were provided to Members of parliament who had been harassed and the subject of anti-Semitic incidents.

“I have had my vehicle’s tyres vandalised twice and my spouse’s vehicle’s tyre once.”

Mr Secord said police had ­informed him that the second incident was unlikely to be a ­coincidence, with the same types of screws used.

The Labor MP has been speaking out in parliament about neo-Nazi extremists, and also ­recently called for laws to ban the display of the Nazi flag and swastika.

“As shadow minister for counter-terrorism, I have spoken out against the anti-lockdown protesters; against Hizb ut-Tahrir; neo-Nazis; and other far-right wing groups as well as Islamic fundamentalists,” Mr Secord said.

“There was a horrific attack on Conservative MP David Amess (in the UK last weekend) and the attack in June 2016 on Labour MP Jo Cox.

“Unfortunately, we are not immune from attacks in Australia.”

NSW Police recently gave evidence in a parliamentary hearing about how right-wing extremists occupied about 20 per cent of counter-terrorism efforts.

A DPC spokeswoman said the department was speaking with Mr Secord about possible options.”

Firstly, I note Secord’s deliberate conflation of “Nazis” and “anti-lockdown protesters”.

Secondly, I note Secord when he says “There was a horrific attack on Conservative MP David Amess ” omits the religious ideology of the man who murdered Amess…..worth remembering that Amess’ murderer isn’t from the far-right.

Thirdly, I haven’t heard Secord speak against far-left violence. Whilst he attempts to ban the swastika, perhaps Mr Secord can also put up a motion to ban the hammer and the sickle?

Fourthly, I don’t recall Secord speaking out against the physical attacks on Tony Abbott, Scott Morrison, Fraser Anning and Andrew Bolt….is that because they’re of the right?

Finally, as for NSW police being “occupied about 20 per cent of counter-terrorism efforts.”…I’m much more worried about the “80 percent of counter terrorism”. We know what and who that is….and it isn’t some pimply faced nerd living in his dark bedroom collecting Nazi memorabilia.

Secord is a hypocrite and an attention seeking fool.

lotocoti
lotocoti
October 24, 2021 10:30 am

Is There Anything Modelling Can’t Do?

Sure.
Modelling can’t fail to make money.
Provided it’s tailored to produce the results expected by the client.

cohenite
October 24, 2021 10:31 am

For your edification Mark A’s lame pics:

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
October 24, 2021 10:33 am

You quarantine the sick, not confine the healthy and deprive them of all their rights, including the right to earn a living.

Immigration can restock the workforce for anyone who doesn’t submit to the vvaxxenening or who falls foul of the experiment.

Baba
Baba
October 24, 2021 10:36 am

Secord is a hypocrite and an attention seeking fool.

And a shameless grifting tick.

MatrixTransform
October 24, 2021 10:36 am

If you met members of either of these groups without knowledge of their position, there is no way you would leave your kids with them for a second.

well, I have to leave my grandkids with them.

I promised the skool-techer a Dyson as a house warmening gift

He delicately TXT’s last night to inquire about the Dyson’s temporal coordinates.
ie… where’s vacuum you old bastard?

true as I’m typing, I’m off thismo to good guys for a click and collect.

will deliver to commie son #1
I have already been informed that it is far too dangerous for us and them to interact.

Will hand over the vacuum with a handful of KFC wipes and an idiot-grin

sometimes actions are more important than words.

cohenite
October 24, 2021 10:37 am

Do we still have that comp going about when they’re going to S.25 the disgusting old bastard biden? Here’s Salty’s take on biden latest Town Hall. Biden sounds like he’s just been woken from his afternoon nap at the nursing home.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
October 24, 2021 10:38 am

I’m not sure why Dr John Campbell gets so much love.

He tries to be data-based and querying, and in order to keep his channel going he has to take a particular line on received public health wisdoms. However, more recently he has gone more into querying mode – on prophylactics like Vit D and zinc, and treatments like ivermectin in particular. His recent interview of a young man call Kyle, who wanted to draw attention to his mRNA injuries, was sensitive and scathing about what happened to this young man, so he’s definitely doing more outrage now, especially about needle aspiration and unwitting IV injection during vaxx jab administration.

He is unruffled and avuncular, slow and cautious, which for most is a pleasant change from dealing with fast-paced technocrats and hysterical nay-sayers about everything. I agree his Australian contacts are not very good. I prefer the Medcram series as more science-based and explanatory but that’s just me. Both are very useful.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
October 24, 2021 10:42 am

Will hand over the vacuum with a handful of KFC wipes and an idiot-grin

sometimes actions are more important than words.

Good on you, Matrix.

Cassie of Sydney
October 24, 2021 10:43 am

“And a shameless grifting tick.”

Yep.

johanna
johanna
October 24, 2021 10:49 am

Megan says:
October 24, 2021 at 7:37 am

I’m trying to keep things calm with the family but two out of my three children are not speaking to us and I haven’t seen or spoken to my grandkids for over three weeks. It’s hard and getting harder.

Megan, what evil has come among us to cause things like you describe? There are many parallels in history where families have been pitted against each other, none of them good.

Having lost some of my oldest friends over the climate liefest, I have had a mild dose of what you are experiencing. And that was bad enough – at my age, you can’t recruit new friends who will be with you for 40 years.

Hang in there, and let’s hope the hysteria passes.

chook
chook
October 24, 2021 10:51 am

Repeat post from late last night. This is happening in Melbourne this weekend in our hospital system:

News from a distant relative about her sister, who has a leukaemia but well enough to be living at home quietly in Melbourne. She had a fall ten days ago, put off going to emergency until she absolutely had to for pain, no bones broken but extensive bruising and ligament damage, hospitalised overnight. Sadly, while waiting several hours to be seen in emergency, she sat next to a person who subsequently tested positive for Covid. Therefore, she has to isolate for 14 days, in hospital. The pain meds are making her very nauseous. Here is a quote from my email tonight.
” XXXX is having an absolutely rotten time. Because she’s been near a Covid person, the cleaners refuse to clean her room, no one will deliver a menu to her, the dietician won’t come into her room and most of the meals are totally useless for a person with nausea. She feels dreadful but the doctor is worried only about her black arm, her low sodium and low blood count. She just has to put up with everything else.”
Ain’t life grand in Dannostan?
I have no words.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 24, 2021 10:53 am

it’s a sour taste when one’s own kids can turn on you

Very Maoist. We’d been seeing this starting to occur with climate fanaticism, but the hysteria over the virus is turning the same denunciatory behaviour up to 11.

Which suggests the whole thing is classic Marxist propaganda and agitation.

Dot
Dot
October 24, 2021 10:55 am

NSW Police recently gave evidence in a parliamentary hearing about how right-wing extremists occupied about 20 per cent of counter-terrorism efforts.

Wow.

Katrina Dawson and Tori Johnson were right wing extremists?

rosie
rosie
October 24, 2021 11:04 am

Dan and Dom had a race
Up and down the fireplace
Dan said it wasn’t fair
Because he fell down a stair

Cassie of Sydney
October 24, 2021 11:10 am

“Dotsays:
October 24, 2021 at 10:55 am
NSW Police recently gave evidence in a parliamentary hearing about how right-wing extremists occupied about 20 per cent of counter-terrorism efforts.

Wow.

Katrina Dawson and Tori Johnson were right wing extremists?”

Yep…just like Curtis Cheng’s murderer was a “right-wing extremist”.

Roger
Roger
October 24, 2021 11:13 am

Because she’s been near a Covid person, the cleaners refuse to clean her room, no one will deliver a menu to her, the dietician won’t come into her room…

I’d be lodging a formal complaint detailing all of this neglect. I realise she’s not up to it atm but could a relative take the initiative?

custard
custard
October 24, 2021 11:13 am

Probably been shared already, but a couple of outdoor diners thought it would be a good idea to shout abuse at protestors walking past in Melbourne yesterday.

https://www.rebelnews.com/full_video_man_picks_fight_with_avi_yemini_and_instantly_regrets_it

Bruce in WA
October 24, 2021 11:21 am

custard says:

Probably been shared already, but a couple of outdoor diners thought it would be a good idea to shout abuse at protestors walking past in Melbourne yesterday.

https://www.rebelnews.com/full_video_man_picks_fight_with_avi_yemini_and_instantly_regrets_it

Yeah, but as reported on newsdotcomdotau:

Right winger cowers as guard shoves diners

A group of diners celebrating the end of Melbourne’s lockdown were enjoying their first night out in months when a right-wing journalist arrived and ruined it.

Roger
Roger
October 24, 2021 11:26 am

Just when you thought the Gliberals in Canberra couldn’t go any lower:

The Federal Government will launch a new ad campaign to encourage residents to come forward to receive a vaccine.

Carrying the tag line of “Spread Freedom” the light-hearted television commercial is aimed at encouraging the remaining 15 percent of Australians aged 16 and up who haven’t been vaccinated by reminding us all of what life was like before the pandemic.

This campaign uses examples of going to the pub, night life, family gatherings and of travel to show the unvaccinated what they will be missing out on.

[Nine News]

Meanwhile, in QLD, Palaszczuk is offering incentives to businesses to exclude the unvaccinated from their premises and warning regional areas that they could be locked down for Christmas if they don’t increase their vaccination rates.

Cassie of Sydney
October 24, 2021 11:28 am

And note the MSM journalist describe…

“NSW Police recently gave evidence in a parliamentary hearing about how right-wing extremists occupied about 20 per cent of counter-terrorism efforts.”

Not “far-right” extremists….just “right-wing”….all deliberate gas lighting and smearing.

MSM = SCUM

Woolfe
Woolfe
October 24, 2021 11:28 am

Of course Bruce that is totally fake and surprise surprise they are not allowing comments

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 24, 2021 11:29 am

The Federal Government will launch a new ad campaign to encourage residents to come forward to receive a vaccine.

Do they say what we should do with it once they give us the ampoule?
I can think of a few things I’d like to do with it.
Involving certain orifices.

Cassie of Sydney
October 24, 2021 11:32 am

“Yeah, but as reported on newsdotcomdotau:

Right winger cowers as guard shoves diners”

I bet News.com.au omitted the fact that one of the diners shouted out “get the jab you c-nt” to one of the women protesters walking past.

MSM = SCUM.

Roger
Roger
October 24, 2021 11:36 am

Get by heart & say aloud:

It is not to be thought of
by William Wordsworth

It is not to be thought of that the Flood
Of British freedom, which, to the open sea
Of the world’s praise, from dark antiquity
Hath flowed, “with pomp of waters, unwithstood,”
Roused though it be full often to a mood
Which spurns the check of salutary bands,
That this most famous Stream in bogs and sands
Should perish; and to evil and to good
Be lost for ever. In our halls is hung
Armoury of the invincible Knights of old:
We must be free or die, who speak the tongue
That Shakespeare spake; the faith and morals hold
Which Milton held.—In every thing we are sprung
Of Earth’s first blood, have titles manifold.

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
October 24, 2021 11:38 am

“Now. Let’s just slip this blue covid mask over the oxygen mask, shall we?”
Yes. Those words were spoken by a nurse in the emergency ward of a Melbourne hospital.

Things are a bit fscked up.

johanna
johanna
October 24, 2021 11:41 am

Just had a chat with the proprietress of the motel, my current abode.

She had complaints about noise, and wondered if they might be from my neighbours (a fillum crew who tiptoed around this morning, closing their doors gently).

Turns out the source was one of our Original Inhabitants. Apparently, she started her interaction with the proprietress by barging into the office and saying – “do you have COVID here, or what?”

She booked a room, and partying with numerous friends and relatives till the small hours ensued.

And they wonder why.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
October 24, 2021 11:45 am

Bruce of Newcastlesays:
October 24, 2021 at 8:34 am
Rosie – You’re correct. Apology from me. I missed that bit as when I scanned the story earlier I was drawn straight to the data table (it’s a reflex action for me!) I have no idea why there’d be such a big difference between young men and young women.

This is one of the things I love about the Cat. Everyone here knows about Bruce and appreciates his comments. In this case he made a small mistake and corrected it, not like some who double down over and over instead of rereading what was said and what their reply was. It occurs more with facts presented than opinions. Can someone help me understand why? So many people think because they know a lot of one thing, that they know about everything else, veritable fountains of knowledge, I think not. Handwaving makes you noticeable, not right.

JC
JC
October 24, 2021 11:48 am

We’re at a seaside resort town this weekend and I just came back from a chore. On the way back I saw eight cops in 4 rows making their way down toward the pier. 8 cops with absolutely nothing to do other than potentially accost people at a seaside town.

After you are sworn in at the end of week 12 as a Probationary Constable, you will earn $73,026 as you continue training for a further 19 weeks,

That would be the going rate for a cop doing his regular 35 hours and no overtime. It’s Sunday, which means double time.

Double time calculates to 80 bucks an hour for a vicpol douchebag and bagette just annoying people on the street or near a pier.

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 24, 2021 11:55 am

Rabz

Some thoughts for you on the Chinese surveillance thread.

JC
JC
October 24, 2021 11:59 am

They’ve started to really dislike to worthless idiot. He has the friendly press at his beckon and call and yet the public don’t like his performance.

Biden Has Largest Decline Than Any Other Post-WWII President, Yet Gallup’s Headline Notes ‘Steady’ Approval

Roger
Roger
October 24, 2021 12:03 pm

Back later, D.v.

In the meantime, take to heart the advice of your leaders, good people:

“Spread freedom” by reminding the unvaxxed of the simple pleasures of life they’ll be frobidden from enjoying by authoritarian decree.

Zipster
Zipster
October 24, 2021 12:05 pm

“Spread freedom” by reminding the unvaxxed of the simple pleasures of life they’ll be frobidden from enjoying by authoritarian decree.

bullshit I will. If government thinks it can ban from doing what I want it has another thing coming

johanna
johanna
October 24, 2021 12:08 pm

Just had the urge to listen to the Led Zep classic – When the Levee Breaks – and find that the only available version is one far removed from the original and ‘curated’ by endless fiddler Jimmy Page.

The original version – which I have on vinyl – has been erased. I know every note, having listened to it many, many times as a teenager. It is etched on my memory.

Go to Hell those who enable the wiping out of history.

And, as Mark Steyn cautions – get hard copies of music and books, and DVDs of movies, before they get altered or deleted.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 24, 2021 12:15 pm

Led Zeppelin stole most their biggest song & has had to settle with dozens of artists.
Heart breaking when you see the entire catalogue of stolen work.

lotocoti
lotocoti
October 24, 2021 12:17 pm

Double time calculates to 80 bucks an hour …

If the Maximum Leader didn’t love the people,
he wouldn’t be paying that much to protect the people from themselves.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 24, 2021 12:18 pm

Whichever Sunday talkshow Fauci will be on in the US, it’s all about the NIH changing it’s tune about GoF & the dog testing.
The Maryland lab where Fauci has his main office is one of the sites where the dog testing has gone on.
However will he spin it?
If Biden’s numbers continue to slide, he’ll have to get some of the middle vote back by firing Fauci.

Shy Ted
Shy Ted
October 24, 2021 12:21 pm

callisays: October 24, 2021 at 9:07 am
Doc or nurse Cats may know the answer. Is it easier to hit a vein in a male arm, rather than a female?

Prick any part of your body with a household needle. It’ll bleed. Everything has a blood supply. It’s only size of vein that matters. IMIs are for slow release but whatever is in it is in your circulation very quickly. I don’t think these sudden or shortly after jab deaths are to do with hitting a vein. Every body is different. No two blood pressures are the same, nor are two routine blood tests. Need autopsies.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 24, 2021 12:21 pm

Biggest songs.
Not song.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 24, 2021 12:23 pm

Genuine question.
How come the same volume of vaccine is given to a 150kg chap as what’s given to a 50kg bird?

JC
JC
October 24, 2021 12:24 pm

It’s even worse for enemies.

Love this came out of the week’s Barron’s..

And Barnes recalls the famous observation of economic historian Charles Kindleberger that “there is nothing so disturbing to one’s well being and judgment as to see a friend get rich.”

JC
JC
October 24, 2021 12:24 pm

Whoops.. missed quotes.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 24, 2021 12:28 pm

Just reading a bit more about the fillem set shooting.
It is being reported that Baldwin was rehearsing a scene where he draws the gun from a holster and points it. Whether the scene was to involve firing it is not clear.
On his second rehearsal of the move the gun discharged.
The armourer was a 24 year old on her second job. She is the daughter of an experienced fillem armourer and “quick draw specialist”.
I wonder.
Were the guns the property of the old man?
Might he have tweaked back the trigger pressure for his “quick draw” stunts?

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
October 24, 2021 12:32 pm

Daniel Andrews announces ‘massive’ change to Victoria’s COVID-19 restrictions

Victoria will “flip the switch” and further ease COVID-19 restrictions on Friday regardless of whether the 80 per cent vaccination target is reached, ahead of a “fundamental” change in rules when the state hits 90 per cent, Premier Daniel Andrews has announced.

So, “regardless of whether the 80 per cent vaccination target is reached”: the same The Science based playbook as the Palacechook regime.

Silent on Contact Tracing – the easy conclusion is that the National Cabinet has been expertly briefed that the Rona has jumped the fence in eastern Australia and is now endemic in Vic and NSW. Which the raw data strongly suggests.

Hard to explain otherwise why governments (other than McGowan and the Tassie one) have simultaneously abandoned their Canute strategies and hard vaxx targets.

Jorge
Jorge
October 24, 2021 12:33 pm

It’s some consolation to those dealing with families at odds to believe that this too shall pass.

I’m not so sure that it will. We are not going back to normal. It’s a turning point in world history.

We can hope that family members wake up and see what beast lurches toward us but most people won’t do that.

That couple in Avi’s video are typical.

Gab
Gab
October 24, 2021 12:34 pm

I do so hope that those who are vaxxed still believe in freedom of choice and are prepared to hide those unvaxxed in 2022 as Dan Andrews’ ”economy of the vaccinated” medical apartheid continues in 2022. As announced today.

Remember too, that when the third does is required, those who are only double-vaxxed will be referred to as ”not fully vaxxed”. Rinse repeat 4th dose.

Zipster
Zipster
October 24, 2021 12:36 pm
Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
October 24, 2021 12:41 pm

The armourer was a 24 year old on her second job.

Safe to say that Sherrif Baldwin is now well and truly off-hooked and has no need to establish his mental health/aspiring-rapper credentials.

In fact he is now a victim.
Perhaps the victim.

P
P
October 24, 2021 12:45 pm

The Politicization of Immunology
By Steve Templeton – October 22, 2o21 – Brownstone Institute

Both immunity to vaccination and infection protect against severe disease, but the scope of immunity that develops after infection is broader, generally more durable, and more specific to lung reinfection. Stronger immunity derived from infection comes with increased risk of severe disease and a higher incidence of long-term effects, especially in older people and those with comorbidities.

Despite the obvious downsides, misinformation about the inferiority of “natural” immunity to vaccination persists, likely out of fear that data showing long-lasting protective immunity from infection will promote vaccine hesitancy. However, the pandemic will not end due to vaccination alone, but due to a combination of vaccine-acquired and infection-acquired immunity, despite the unwillingness of politicians, scientists, and public health officials to admit it.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 24, 2021 12:45 pm

In fact he is now a victim.
Perhaps the victim.

He is listed as a producer on the film, so he’s done any of the dough he was going to make.
Insurers are going to have a field day with the premiums of anyone involved.

JC
JC
October 24, 2021 12:46 pm

Gab

Of course people here, I think every single one of those vaxxed, believes vaxxing is a personal decision and finds government interference and state based coercion objectionable in every way. It’s abhorrent.

I must say that same level of respect isn’t offered by the unvaxxed to those that are from what I’ve seen here.

Examples:

Faulty2 (Eyrie) expressing his hope that I would die from the vax and on hearing that he would buy some aviation fuel and come and piss on my grave. Seriously, that’s what he wrote and only yesterday he was musing that my comments are too extreme and I should banned. I think, and I’m just speculating here, grave pissing could be a long held family tradition in that household so I shouldn’t hold it against him.

There’s Struth, owner of the furniture store this week making hallucinatory comments about those people who had vaxxed and what traitors they are. Spare us. I took the first shot in early April and the last in early May. No one had any idea then it would come to this. Most of us, I’d suggest, are in the same boat as me.

P
P
October 24, 2021 12:51 pm

Remember too, that when the third does is required, those who are only double-vaxxed will be referred to as ”not fully vaxxed”

In the US I’ve read they are being called insurrectionists.

areff
areff
October 24, 2021 12:51 pm

I took the first shot in early April and the last in early May

Almost due for the soon-to-be-mandatory third jab, JC, the benefits of the first lot having almost worn off by now.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
October 24, 2021 12:51 pm

Cassie of Sydneysays:
October 24, 2021 at 10:29 am
More mediocre journalism from the MSM…The Daily Telegraph.

“Walt Secord links vandal attacks to his stance on Nazi sympathisers”

The Nazi’s were big supporters of the Cult of Pieces. tm. (not a religion). Note to plod, The so called 20% will be talking to the othe 80% but since you find nothing or very little about the other 80% I doubt you’ll ever find the 20%. Plod, contact me if I need to spell it out, Iknow you’re slow learner, try reading slower. I seriously doubt it was anything to do with his conversion to the Jewish faith. I’m surprised it hasn’t happened to more politicians, what with their complicity in the Scamdemic, Globull Weirding and for just being another scumbag politician. As for plod doing counter terrorism, when presented with Mad Monis. Zilch, couldn’t recognize it when shoved in front of their collective noses. Then stuffed up big time again when needed. I think plod is looking for the Illinois Nazi’s holding a march. I’ll give them a heads up. It’ll be on tv again soon. Same bat time same bat channel.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
October 24, 2021 12:51 pm

He is listed as a producer on the film, so he’s done any of the dough he was going to make.
Insurers are going to have a field day with the premiums of anyone involved.

All gone, and then some, I’d expect.
With what appears to be an all point oceangoing fuckup, the insurers will be firmly set behind a hedge of lawyers.

Indolent
Indolent
October 24, 2021 12:54 pm
JC
JC
October 24, 2021 12:56 pm

Areff

Honestly, I’m not the least concerned about a third one. If it’s to be then it’s fine with me. I want to get the fuck out of Dodge for the northern spring.

Cassie of Sydney
October 24, 2021 12:57 pm

“dover0beachsays:
October 24, 2021 at 12:42 pm
Cassie, what was that arsehole saying to Avi in the mother tongue?”

The arsehole used the word “magiyl”…..which means “disgusting”. It’s quite an insult. Avi’s Hebrew is fluent and handled himself well.

Baba
Baba
October 24, 2021 12:57 pm

Almost due for the soon-to-be-mandatory third jab, JC, the benefits of the first lot having almost worn off by now.

Get two boosters. To be sure to be sure.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 24, 2021 12:57 pm

There will some mutually agreed to monster settlement.
Looks like Baldwin might have to do a De Niro & work until he’s a hundred.
Unlike De Niro, Baldwin doesn’t have a billionaire mate who can use shareholder funds to buy a 20% stake in his restaurant chain for 100mill.

Baba
Baba
October 24, 2021 1:00 pm

Unlike De Niro, Baldwin doesn’t have a billionaire mate who can use shareholder funds to buy a 20% stake in his restaurant chain for 100mill.

Maybe Trump will help him out?

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
October 24, 2021 1:04 pm

Making movies has some natural risks. Getting enjabbenated (or not) has some natural risks.
Are you feeling lucky punk?

Indolent
Indolent
October 24, 2021 1:05 pm

DIDN’T SEE THIS COMING: EU PARLIAMENT REJECT ORWELLIAN “VACCINE” MANDATES IN FAVOR OF HUMAN RIGHTS
All well and good, but they’re not the ones who make the decisions. The European Parliament is nothing but puppet show. Just ask Nigel Farage.

Zipster
Zipster
October 24, 2021 1:05 pm
Cassie of Sydney
October 24, 2021 1:06 pm

“Sancho Panzersays:
October 24, 2021 at 12:28 pm”

It appears that the whole production has been dodgy. The news coming in is that the set was rife with safety issues and so here we have the scenario where Baldwin, the uber progressive screaming abusive Democrat, was the producer of a production that was cutting corners as well as using scab labour….union crew members walked off set days before the shootings because of safety issues and these union members were replaced with non-union members. Normally I’d laugh at the rank hypocrisy from Baldwin but a woman lies dead and another is in hospital with a serious gunshot wound.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/marisadellatto/2021/10/22/crew-members-say-there-was-lack-of-safety-on-movie-set-where-alec-baldwin-shot-two/?sh=251852d237ac

Baba
Baba
October 24, 2021 1:08 pm

Two days ago.

Bitcoin investors had a scare last night when the value of the popular cryptocurrency plummeted 87 per cent.

Bitcoin went from a near-record price of US$65,815 to US$8200 ($88,035 to $10,968) on trading platform Binance.US in under a minute last night.

The price quickly returned to nearly its original value, with Binance admitting an error had occurred.

“One of our institutional traders indicated to us that they had a bug in their trading algorithm, which appears to have caused the sell-off,” the company said in a statement to Markets Insider.

I would love to know the real story. I wonder who cleaned up?

Arky
October 24, 2021 1:09 pm

JCsays:
October 24, 2021 at 9:34 am
OSC

Are you doing dope? Mr Goofy is one of the worst here when it comes to not admitting he’s fucked up. Did you miss the flounce on Friday when Arky took him to task?

..
Bruce is a valued contributor. He has often pointed out stuff I didn’t know previously, for example how the platinum metals are the choke point for the proliferation of hydrogen cells.
You’d be best off making peace with him and both of you moving on.

Cassie of Sydney
October 24, 2021 1:09 pm

” I seriously doubt it was anything to do with his conversion to the Jewish faith. “

Agree….and he’s had a “reform conversion”….dodgy and yukky. As far as I’m concerned he is not halachically Jewish.

calli
calli
October 24, 2021 1:11 pm

Thanks, Ted. I was just wondering out loud in print.

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
October 24, 2021 1:12 pm

More on the hospital insanity.
The enjabenmania means that if you return a positive PCR test then it is off to isolation, regardless of your jabbed state. You are fscked if you have a serious ailment.
Whereas if the PCR falls in your favour, it is business as usual, regardless of your symptoms, regardless of your jabbed state.

Dot
Dot
October 24, 2021 1:13 pm

The Federal Government will launch a new ad campaign to encourage residents to come forward to receive a vaccine.

Carrying the tag line of “Spread Freedom” the light-hearted television commercial is aimed at encouraging the remaining 15 percent of Australians aged 16 and up who haven’t been vaccinated by reminding us all of what life was like before the pandemic.

How does GAGF sound?

I was free the day I was born, you stupid, value-less fools

shatterzzz
October 24, 2021 1:14 pm

It’s some consolation to those dealing with families at odds to believe that this too shall pass.
I’m not that forgiving!.. I won’t be forgetting that of my 4 kids, the 3 that live in Sydney, limited themselves to a fortnightly call or text, at most! .. how is ya .. to this aged parent, living alone …! Whilst the 4th (Danistan) checked up on me at least twice a week and put the Grandees on vid every time ……..!

Dot
Dot
October 24, 2021 1:14 pm

JCsays:
October 24, 2021 at 12:56 pm
Areff

Honestly, I’m not the least concerned about a third one. If it’s to be then it’s fine with me. I want to get the fuck out of Dodge for the northern spring.

Time to admit the (currently available) vaccines are not very effective.

Dot
Dot
October 24, 2021 1:15 pm

Normally I’d laugh at the rank hypocrisy from Baldwin but a woman lies dead and another is in hospital with a serious gunshot wound.

He probably thought it was Kim Basinger.

Arky
October 24, 2021 1:16 pm

Time to admit the (currently available) vaccines are not very effective.

..
Someone once said “They won’t do shit”.

shatterzzz
October 24, 2021 1:16 pm

Carrying the tag line of “Spread Freedom” the light-hearted television commercial is aimed at encouraging the remaining 15 percent of Australians aged 16 and up who haven’t been vaccinated by reminding us all of what life was like before the pandemic.

methinx, BRADBURY has a, deep down, yearning to find out how it feelz to fall whilst in front .. LOL!

FlyingPigs
FlyingPigs
October 24, 2021 1:20 pm

Walt Secord

You look a bit different Jussie Smollett!

calli
calli
October 24, 2021 1:23 pm

Someone once said “They won’t do shit”.

And anyone who thinks they’ll be fine to travel under the new international rules should think again. Flash your enjabbening card. Sweet. Go overseas.

Enjoy the bright lights of London, Paris, wherever. Catch Covid, try to board flight home. Flash enjabbening card. Whoops! Positive test, go to the back of the queue, lose tickets, try to find accomodation and negotiate the labyrinth of travel insurance.

Gee, that holiday was fun! Let’s not go again. Ever.

shatterzzz
October 24, 2021 1:23 pm

Normally I’d laugh at the rank hypocrisy from Baldwin but a woman lies dead and another is in hospital with a serious gunshot wound.

Also condolence & thoughts for the victims is, probably, the main reason why Baldwin is not getting hammered by memes & innuendo across blogs ..!

JC
JC
October 24, 2021 1:24 pm

Okay Arky, so I’ll pretend you didn’t have a disagreement with him and we’ll move on shall we? Is that what you want to do?

I made overtures to him on Friday as you know and he rejected it. Recall, I said I felt awful if he felt bad about it all. He rejected the overture and that’s it with me. He gets no other chance. That doesn’t mean I’ll be hounding him. We just won’t talk. Look, I’ve told you before to stop inserting yourself into these sorts of discussions as you don’t own the fucking blog. It’s not yours. Moreover, if you were fair about things you would have reproached the battered wives posse, but you didn’t. So politely fuck off please and mind your own business. If it ever becomes your blog, let me know, and I’ll be off like a jack rabbit. You school marm.

calli
calli
October 24, 2021 1:26 pm

The thing that got me about those three was they looked so ordinary and…respectable.

Until they opened their filthy, pox-ridden mouths.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 24, 2021 1:26 pm

feelthebernsays:

October 24, 2021 at 12:45 pm

In fact he is now a victim.
Perhaps the victim.

He is listed as a producer on the film, so he’s done any of the dough he was going to make.

It was low budget by U.S. standards (about $6m).
I am guessing Baldwin hasn’t got any hard cash in the kitty, but has waived his acting fee in return for equity.
But yes, as the person holding the gun, and also named as a producer, he has two legal angles to worry about.

P
P
October 24, 2021 1:27 pm

Vaccinated economy ‘here to stay’ in Victoria

However Mr Andrews stressed that many freedoms will only be available to the “vaccinated economy”, which is “here to stay”.

“We will retain the vaccinated economy, all those requirements, although settings, where you only get in if you are double vaccinated, and you can tap and verify that for everybody,” he said.

“In fact, we will add to the vaccinated economy by asking and mandating that all non-essential retail will have to be vaccinated as well, both to go in, and also to work on those settings.”

JC
JC
October 24, 2021 1:30 pm

Time to admit the (currently available) vaccines are not very effective.

Why dot. I never thought the vaxxes would change the world, but they will change it a bit and perhaps move the dial in our favor some in terms of deaths and serious illness. Look, some people here think it’s the flu, but have a look at mater’s tables he posted last week. 11% freaking percent of young people in the 20/29 cohort end up in hospital. What fucking flu has ever done that? Not even the Spanish flu attacked the young.

It’s my personal belief that the vax may remove some of the sting after contracting the illness. That’s plenty good for me.

Dot
Dot
October 24, 2021 1:31 pm

“In fact, we will add to the vaccinated economy by asking and mandating that all non-essential retail will have to be vaccinated as well, both to go in, and also to work on those settings.”

What a flog. Virtually no one but the very old die of COVID.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 24, 2021 1:31 pm

bern at 8.42:

Cuomo lost his job not for shoving COVID patients back in old folks homes, but because he felt up a lot of women.
Fauci didn’t lose his job because he funded GoF research, but it looks like the NIH experiments on dogs will his downfall.

Full court press this weekend.

Hot Button Sutton.
Slug.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 24, 2021 1:34 pm

However Mr Andrews stressed that many freedoms will only be available to the “vaccinated economy”, which is “here to stay”.

And, come December, what will be the position north of the Murray?
A cynic might suggest that ALP polling is telling them that most vax holdouts are conservative voters, and he wouldn’t be that upset if 50,000 of them headed north.

Arky
October 24, 2021 1:36 pm

I never thought the vaxxes would change the world, but they will change it a bit and perhaps move the dial in our favor

..
The main achievement of the vaccines has been to allow governments to bring in a surveillance state.

Dot
Dot
October 24, 2021 1:37 pm

The Ballad of Senior Airman Dick Fitzwell.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VnNUfUWVzI

shatterzzz
October 24, 2021 1:37 pm

Noticed on my bike ride this morning that the BAT FLU drive-in I pass was closed .. 2nd Sunday in a row!

JC
JC
October 24, 2021 1:37 pm

Dover

Sometimes things just don’t work out. That’s life, right. It’s a complicated mess at times. If he’s right then it’s a problem. He could also be wrong, which wouldn’t be shock with some of the medical profession. In any event, why place such high expectation on this vax when the flu vax doesn’t always work? It will get better in the next few years and if it doesn’t, that’s life.

Arky
October 24, 2021 1:39 pm

JCsays:
October 24, 2021 at 1:24 pm
Okay Arky, so I’ll pretend you didn’t have a disagreement with him and we’ll move on shall we?

..
Nothing wrong with a disagreement.
You and I disagree over almost everything.
Doesn’t mean I want to see you disembowelled.
Usually.

Mater
October 24, 2021 1:39 pm

“In fact, we will add to the vaccinated economy by asking and mandating that all non-essential retail will have to be vaccinated as well, both to go in, and also to work on those settings.”

That’ll seem cool for a lot of the double vaxxed…until they realise they need to be triple vaxxed.

Got told this morning by a double vaxxed convert, that my talk of compulsory boosters was “delusional, conspiratorial horseshit”.

“It’ll only ever be relevant to to the immuno-compromised, and only with express specialist approval”.

I sense there is bucket load of disappointment about to be poured on some of these dickheads.

Dot
Dot
October 24, 2021 1:39 pm

Why dot. I never thought the vaxxes would change the world, but they will change it a bit and perhaps move the dial in our favor some in terms of deaths and serious illness. Look, some people here think it’s the flu, but have a look at mater’s tables he posted last week. 11% freaking percent of young people in the 20/29 cohort end up in hospital. What fucking flu has ever done that? Not even the Spanish flu attacked the young.

They don’t JC. Plenty of people have had COVID and thought it was just a mild cold. Why have 30% of people got natural immunity? Some of it is shared proteins with other viruses, some of it is that COVID has been endemic for quite a while.

It’s my personal belief that the vax may remove some of the sting after contracting the illness. That’s plenty good for me.

Sorry

belief

JC
JC
October 24, 2021 1:40 pm

The main achievement of the vaccines has been to allow governments to bring in a surveillance state.

That’s your opinion and I consider it just cheap conspiratorial bullshit. You’re saying the efforts Trump put into the Vax was all a hoax. He was trying to coax people into a more coercive state apparatus. Forgive me, if you hear a fart sound. 🙂

But hey, we’re all entitled to our opinions no matter how stupid they are.

Dot
Dot
October 24, 2021 1:40 pm

In any event, why place such high expectation on this vax when the flu vax doesn’t always work?

Completely different!

Zipster
Zipster
October 24, 2021 1:42 pm

The main achievement of the vaccines has been to allow governments to bring in a surveillance state.

more a case of never let a good crisis go to waste

Dot
Dot
October 24, 2021 1:44 pm

That’s your opinion and I consider it just cheap conspiratorial bullshit.

What?

It happened. Right before your eyes. Or, alternatively, in the background, when people wouldn’t notice.

We have check ins & internal passports. Now the Stuart Robert is trying to create a FedCoin system “for our own good”.

That said, I think we were someway there anyways.

You’re saying the efforts Trump put into the Vax was all a hoax.

He was used masterfully. Just like how the left cuck conservatives on the basis that they want to defend and protect women & children. The left have no self policing on being hypocrites for taking triple shots of the awful (probably racist) “Trumpo vaxxine”.

cohenite
October 24, 2021 1:46 pm

Just had a nice talk with Dave Cochran on 2SM; Dave is one of the more reasonable DJs. So I urge everyone to ring up and support what I said: namely COP26 is BS, AGW is crap and the commies and spivs are the ones behind it with the vegan and other environmental nutters their useful idiots. And also cows are great.

JC
JC
October 24, 2021 1:46 pm

They don’t JC. Plenty of people have had COVID and thought it was just a mild cold.

That’s true and medical science isn’t able to explain it full proof. Some people believe it has a lot to do with the viral load and also if you have been exposed to previous coronaviruses.

Why have 30% of people got natural immunity?

As I said, exposure perhaps. It’s definitely hitting Asians less than Euros which may indicate an exposure theory. Dunno.

Some of it is shared proteins with other viruses, some of it is that COVID has been endemic for quite a while.

Okay whatev.

Here’s the thing. The vax at least taught my body there’s a new enemy lurking about … at the very least. This hold for a while or it may not. This, no one knows yet, but we’ll see. And yes, I will get a booster when available as that stuff doesn’t worry me much.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 24, 2021 1:46 pm

Comment, on the Oz, about THAT shooting.

Paul
19 minutes ago
Ironic that such a vocal opponent of the NRA would point and fire a weapon at a person when any NRA member knows to always assume a gun is loaded and never point a weapon at anyone ever, let alone pull the trigger.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 24, 2021 1:47 pm

no one but the very old die of COVID.

No, no no.

You’re forgetting the 40 year old comorbid fat chicks (and blokes, for that matter) that haven’t taken one chubby, cellulite-ridden step in the direction of looking after themselves since they could walk.

The ones where every day is Gigantor Burger Day, but without the balance of physical activity/labour to work it off. The ones who’ve consequently had high blood pressure and hardened sediment-infested arteries since their twenties, and who inevitably developed all manner of illnesses and incapacities their bodies were never meant to endure.

The ones who will, once the firies have knocked door frames and windows down to get them out of the house and into specially made ICU beds, blame everything and everyone else for their own lack of effort throughout their entire lives (with the assistance of wailing relatives), just before a bog-standard respiratory condition takes them.

Arky
October 24, 2021 1:47 pm

dover0beachsays:
October 24, 2021 at 1:22 pm
The really sad cases in that Avi video were the three revolting bugmen that instigated the whole confrontation on the table next to the aggro couple. Simmering just below the surface of these creatures is deep hatred and contempt for their neighbour.

..
Yep.
Andrews has tapped into the tribalism underlying Victoria.
Wankers v. nobs.
Outer suburbs v. inner burbs.
Bush v. city.
Labor v. Liberal.
Collingwood v everyone else.
With the extra twist that a manufactured existentialist crisis brings.

Dot
Dot
October 24, 2021 1:47 pm

This, no one knows yet, but we’ll see. And yes, I will get a booster when available as that stuff doesn’t worry me much.

Are you going to stop at #4 or #5?

Arky
October 24, 2021 1:47 pm

Ford v. Holden.

JC
JC
October 24, 2021 1:47 pm

Dot, please.

Trump was used, was he? Really. Let’s a have a limit to 6 conspiracies a day to wade through. Anymore and it will be too hard to disentangle.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 24, 2021 1:48 pm

And also cows are great.

Dead, cut up and on a BBQ, yes.
But alive they are devious killers.

JC
JC
October 24, 2021 1:49 pm

Are you going to stop at #4 or #5?

Look, in a few years there should be more effective shots available. But would I be worried about 4 or 5? Nope not really. I get the flu shot each year and that doesn’t worry me much.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 24, 2021 1:51 pm

johanna at 9:39 – UPS, FedEx and Amazon are why I haven’t given up on the USA just yet rgardless of what Biden and the Democrats might be up to. A domestic market of 300m that can practically close its borders to the rest of the world and be self sufficient if required will take some effort to overthrow.

Arky
October 24, 2021 1:53 pm

You’re saying the efforts Trump put into the Vax was all a hoax.

..
Logical fail.
One doesn’t follow from the other.

Dot
Dot
October 24, 2021 1:53 pm

Man saves Texas’ natural ecosystem by…clearing trees. They say overgrazed…he actually doesn’t. He blames over-afforestation by a monoculture.

50 Years Ago, This Was a Wasteland. He Changed Everything | Short Film Showcase

National Geographic

18.7M subscribers

Almost 50 years ago, fried chicken tycoon David Bamberger used his fortune to purchase 5,500 acres of overgrazed land in the Texas Hill Country. Planting grasses to soak in rains and fill hillside aquifers, Bamberger devoted the rest of his life to restoring the degraded landscape. Today, the land has been restored to its original habitat and boasts enormous biodiversity. Bamberger’s model of land stewardship is now being replicated across the region and he is considered to be a visionary in land management and water conservation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSPkcpGmflE

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 24, 2021 1:54 pm

Paul
19 minutes ago
Ironic that such a vocal opponent of the NRA would point and fire a weapon at a person when any NRA member knows to always assume a gun is loaded and never point a weapon at anyone ever, let alone pull the trigger.

Much as I can’t stand Baldwin, that is an irrelevant criticism in this case.
Fillems often require a gun to be pointed at another person (or a manned camera) for dramatic effect.
There are numerous Dirty Harry promos with the barrel of the .357 pointed at the camera, with Clint’s mug behind it.
Was Clint irresponsible to do that?

JC
JC
October 24, 2021 1:55 pm

People are really fucking up badly here by blaming the vax for all that’s bad about government. It’s not the vax’s fault that the state is being a coercive arsehole to the point of being totally evil.

The vax is simply a medication that can be used potentially to treat covid. If one is going to associate the vax with bad government then argue about everything else the government uses to coerce people … like guns for example.

Arky
October 24, 2021 1:55 pm

. Let’s a have a limit to 6 conspiracies a day to wade through.

..
Right now you are legally allowed to work at your job, whereas I, unvaxxws am not.
It isn’t a fucking conspiracy theory.

JC
JC
October 24, 2021 1:57 pm

Logical fail.
One doesn’t follow from the other.

It doesn’t have to be, but you’ve never actually made that distinction, have you? I did.

rickw
rickw
October 24, 2021 1:58 pm

Right now you are legally allowed to work at your job, whereas I, unvaxxws am not.
It isn’t a fucking conspiracy theory.

Yep, living the fucking conspiracy theory….

Arky
October 24, 2021 1:58 pm

My wife can’t take E. to netball like the other mothers can this year.
Not a conspiracy theory.

Arky
October 24, 2021 1:59 pm

We’re uncertain if that pig Andrews will require us to be vaxxed for E. to attend school at some stage.
Not a conspiracy theory.

shatterzzz
October 24, 2021 2:00 pm

Was Clint irresponsible to do that?

Heresy will not be tolerated! .. regardless of the context!

JC
JC
October 24, 2021 2:00 pm

Right now you are legally allowed to work at your job, whereas I, unvaxxws am not.
It isn’t a fucking conspiracy theory.

You’re jumping several steps ahead from the original argument. This is a different one. You argued the vax was developed so the state could chain us. That’s bullshit. They were developed for the un-malign reason of actually treating people and making sure we were well. If the state abuses the privilege of the vax then blame the c..ts running the government.

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
October 24, 2021 2:01 pm

But hey, we’re all entitled to our opinions no matter how stupid they are.

For JC and most Viktoristanis, the right to hold an opinion is currently under review.

Arky
October 24, 2021 2:02 pm

You argued the vax was developed so the state could chain us.

.
NO I DID NOT.
Stop the verballing right there.

JC
JC
October 24, 2021 2:02 pm

Yep, living the fucking conspiracy theory….

Rick, I know. It’s not what I said though. He just took the argument there – not me. I sympathize with everyone having problems like this. Trust me, I really do.

JC
JC
October 24, 2021 2:04 pm

NO I DID NOT.
Stop the verballing right there.

Okay, must have misunderstood what your “verbaling” means:

The main achievement of the vaccines has been to allow governments to bring in a surveillance state.

Arky
October 24, 2021 2:04 pm

The main achievement of the vaccines has been to allow governments to bring in a surveillance state.

..
ACHIEVMENT. NOT AIM.

Dot
Dot
October 24, 2021 2:05 pm

Trump got played in a major way.

1. Ignores Coronavirus. He was fucked.
2. Takes it seriously. He was fucked.

Pretty hard if nearly all of the media are doing a full court press; but without the vaccines now, would we have medical apartheid or not?

No “conspiracy”. Just a documented course of action.

Look, in a few years there should be more effective shots available. But would I be worried about 4 or 5? Nope not really. I get the flu shot each year and that doesn’t worry me much.

I agree, so why can’t we wait? We should be able to get Covax and Novavax next year. They are more effective, safer and AFAIK, made ethically.

Why the heavy handed stuff like making people lose their job? The pandemic is over, it is endemic anyway now.

It’s not a conspiracy, but an opportunity.

1. Bring on a police state.
2. Make the laws up behind our backs (for most people).
3. Push an agenda, like rolling s 92 or religious exemptions and expanding what an “emergency” is.

The real conspiracy is that the mainstream right are milquetoast and basically controlled opposition. No explicit conspiracy, but their lack of a spine makes it happen (or lack of deeply held ideals). The left are supreme opportunists and hit a home run here again. Morrison’s ads are nuts. I was free the day I was born. We should have isolated the vulnerable (possibly vaccinate) and waited for more effective vaccines.

rickw
rickw
October 24, 2021 2:06 pm

However Mr Andrews stressed that many freedoms will only be available to the “vaccinated economy”, which is “here to stay”.

I can’t wait for winter 2022, it’s going to be another fucking disaster with these fucking brain dead Mongs in charge.

132andBush
132andBush
October 24, 2021 2:06 pm

JC,

but have a look at mater’s tables he posted last week. 11% freaking percent of young people in the 20/29 cohort end up in hospital. What fucking flu has ever done that? Not even the Spanish flu attacked the young.

That’s wrong, JC.

The Spanish flu killed in all age groups.

Covid 19 is notable in that it doesn’t kill the young.

Just one reference

JC
JC
October 24, 2021 2:07 pm

Why? Because people are being excluded from society for exercising their judgment re the usefulness of the vaxx.

Dover, that’s really a different argument, but I most certainly appreciate the damage being done to people. That’s the fault of these governments.

But remember this. When Libertarians were being criticized at the old blog, left right and centre, we were always warning about the intrusive state of affairs in Australia .
Australia, the land of the larrikan… pigs arse.

JC
JC
October 24, 2021 2:09 pm

The Spanish flu killed in all age groups.

Whoops… I screwed up Bush.Thanks.. I think that flu actually killed the young and speared the old. At least that’s what I’ve read. Thanks for clarifying.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Border Closure

Sancho Panzersays:
October 24, 2021 at 12:28 pm

Just reading a bit more about the fillem set shooting.

Might he have tweaked back the trigger pressure for his “quick draw” stunts?

Apparently it was a single-action pistol.
Before pulling the trigger, Baldwin had to physically cock it.

Zipster
Zipster
October 24, 2021 2:10 pm
Arky
October 24, 2021 2:11 pm

The Spanish flu killed MAINLY that age group.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3734171/

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Border Closure

Sancho Panzersays:
October 24, 2021 at 1:54 pm

Paul
19 minutes ago
Ironic that such a vocal opponent of the NRA would point and fire a weapon at a person when any NRA member knows to always assume a gun is loaded and never point a weapon at anyone ever, let alone pull the trigger.

Much as I can’t stand Baldwin, that is an irrelevant criticism in this case.

Call me Nostradamus.
Coz I’ve a feeling the script did not call for a gun to be pointed at the camera girl or the director.

cohenite
October 24, 2021 2:12 pm

But alive they are devious killers.

Death by cow turds is one of the cruellest ways to die.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 24, 2021 2:12 pm

There are numerous Dirty Harry promos with the barrel of the .357 pointed at the camera, with Clint’s mug behind it.

Clint Eastwood was drafted into the United States Army at one stage, I presume he had enough weapons training to make sure the .357 was cleared before pointing it at the camera.

Baba
Baba
October 24, 2021 2:13 pm

Zipstersays:
October 24, 2021 at 1:05 pm
The Five Laws Of Stupidity

Thanks, Zippy. Everyone else? Watch it.

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
October 24, 2021 2:14 pm

Any chance of the woofloo designers taking orders?

1. Politicians of all ages …
2. Lawyers, balls turn green and drop off (like Cadmium poisoning).

Baba
Baba
October 24, 2021 2:17 pm

I can’t wait for winter 2022, it’s going to be another fucking disaster with these fucking brain dead Mongs in charge.

Fuck yeah. Bring. It. On.

P
P
October 24, 2021 2:18 pm

Bryson Gray Tyson James Chandler Crump “Let’s Go Brandon” Full Video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FeLO8yVrVx4

rickw
rickw
October 24, 2021 2:18 pm

by reminding us all of what life was like before the pandemic

People might look about the wreckage of their life and realised that COVID did nothing to them, and that Government did everything to them.

When this realisation hits, I will be in the CBD with an enormous roll of piano wire and some wire cutters. Wouldn’t want to see just vengeance truncated for a lack of materials.

JC
JC
October 24, 2021 2:20 pm

Spared..

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
October 24, 2021 2:21 pm

After the enlightenment then came the endarkenment which was then followed by the impalement and pianoment.

Zipster
Zipster
October 24, 2021 2:21 pm

Before pulling the trigger, Baldwin had to physically cock it.

phrasing!

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
October 24, 2021 2:22 pm

JC you’ve been jabbed with an experimental drug not a vaccine. Stop pretending it is anything else.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 24, 2021 2:22 pm

This is why the Russians could never be beaten in a Cold War that went hot. Manly men of this wide brown land, this is now your benchmark (Focks Sports):

A decorated Russian boxer is in “grave condition” after fighting off and stabbing a bear to death after it killed his friend.

“I heard screams. They shouted, ‘A bear!’” eyewitness Denis Chebotar, 41, told East 2 West news of “The Revenant”-esque saga, which occurred near the Irtysh River in Siberia.

Professional boxer Ilya Medvedev, 23, was fishing with his friend Vyacheslav “Slava” Dudnik, 48, when the two were attacked by the brown bear. The beast reportedly mauled Dudnik to death before proceeding to attack his younger pugilist pal.

Chebotar was reportedly fastening the team’s boat to the riverbank when he heard screams and shouts of “a bear”, which prompted the angler to rush into the forest to aid his buddies. He later heard gunshots.

Upon arriving at the scene, he “saw Slava dead” and Medvedev “finishing the bear off with a knife.”

The scene that had played out moments before was like an interspecies “Rocky” movie. Prior to Chebotar’s arrival, the boxer — who had participated in the Russian national championships and other national contests — had fired a total of four shots at the fierce critter. Despite sustaining several bullet wounds, the ferocious beast kept mauling the fighter, and even managed to knock the firearm out of his hand.

Left with no other recourse, Medvedev started “stabbing it with a knife,” recounted Chebotar. Finally, he managed to dispatch the predator, but suffered serious wounds during the struggle, East 2 West news reported.

Chebotar dragged the “barely alive” boxer to the boat and transported him to the hospital, where he is currently in intensive care with lacerations to the head and body, per reports from the Uvatsky district, in the Tyumen region.

Authorities have since launched an investigation into the incident.

Apparently Medvedev was heard to remark, apropos of the bear, on his way to hospital:

‘If he dies, he dies.’

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Border Closure

Real gun, fake Spaniard. (under a photo of Baldwin & his honey)

Oh boyo boyo boy, the t-shirt memes are going to print themselves.

Bruce in WA
October 24, 2021 2:25 pm

Clint Eastwood was drafted into the United States Army at one stage, I presume he had enough weapons training to make sure the .357 was cleared before pointing it at the camera.

If, indeed, there was anyone actually behind the camera and not simply using a remote for a pre-set shot.

132andBush
132andBush
October 24, 2021 2:25 pm

People might look about the wreckage of their life and realised that COVID did nothing to them, and that Government did everything to them.

THIS!!

And now they have the political capital/critical mass they are decreeing that nothing is “off the table”.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 24, 2021 2:25 pm

Before pulling the trigger, Baldwin had to physically cock it.

And what if that was part of the direction given to him?
Look, as I say, I can’t stand Baldwin, but looking at this logically there are several possible contributing factors:-
– an inexperienced armourer;
– a breakdown of the protocols around the handing out and retrieving of weapons from actors;
– an assistant director calling a weapon “cold” when it obviously was not;
– an actor who was inexperienced at weapons handling;
– time pressures on set staff.
Whilst the prospect of Baldwin in an orange jumpsuit might be appealing, I wouldn’t get too excited about the possibility of that happening just yet.

MatrixTransform
October 24, 2021 2:26 pm

Time to admit the (currently available) vaccines are not very effective.

worser, the side effect seems to cause communism

Baba
Baba
October 24, 2021 2:28 pm

If company board members are liable for on-site WHS failures why not a movie’s producer?

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