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rickw
rickw
October 26, 2021 8:18 pm

Avi and the Mongs of Melbourne:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QU6VaCMymPg

Cassie of Sydney
October 26, 2021 8:18 pm

“rosiesays:
October 26, 2021 at 7:52 pm”

Correct.

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
October 26, 2021 8:19 pm

Today I attended the CBD of Sydney to drop off to the Supreme Court Registry a couple of Probate summonses with original wills for grants of Probate. Our usual service provider who lodges these things with the Court advised it no longer does such manual work (or was that menial work)

So I thought. well I’m here so I’ll go to the Court registry myself — went through the screening (my shoes beeped wildly, did the QR thingy but then the gentleman on security wanted to see my vaccination status. Well that was a hitch, he said I could post the documents in – to which I said ” I don’t trust Australia Post with Original wills, would you?’ then it was suggested I courier the documents in — well there you go — the Supreme Court building is off limits to the unvaxxed — I wonder what they’ll do with the unvaxxed defendants/plaintiffs when subpoena habeas corpus summons their appearance before the Judge?

Anyway it will be a nice little outing tomorrow with my granddaughter who’ll enjoy the beauty of Hyde Park in bloom while her Dad does the Probate lodgements – all works out well in the long run , I get time with my little grandie and know there’s been a work around on the tyranny.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Border Closure

It was the voters who gave Bob Hawke & Labor the 1987 victory.

Sir Joh faced the same situation as Trump, first he had to beat his own party. Sinclair & Howard came out harder against Bjelke-Petersen than Labor ever did.

Sir Joh’s policies would have seen him as PM. (& would have seen Howard into political oblivion)

Cassie of Sydney
October 26, 2021 8:21 pm

“Anyway it will be a nice little outing tomorrow with my granddaughter who’ll enjoy the beauty of Hyde Park in bloom while her Dad does the Probate lodgements – all works out well in the long run , I get time with my little grandie and know there’s been a work around on the tyranny.”

Enjoy Tinta.

Top Ender
Top Ender
October 26, 2021 8:21 pm

The Oz gives Twiggster a tongue-bath:

Andrew ‘Twiggy’ Forrest creates climate for green hydrogen energy revolution

Andrew Forrest in London to push his green energy plans. He says that under his revolution ‘we have complete sovereignty over energy at all times, and it’s made here by local punters. Why wouldn’t you do it?’

JACQUELIN MAGNAY
EUROPE CORRESPONDENT
@jacquelinmagnay

Australia’s richest man, Andrew “Twiggy” Forrest, has spent four years studying and preparing for this moment: convincing the world that green hydrogen is the future.

At the very time Prime Minister Scott Morrison has achieved a commitment to net zero by 2050, Dr Forrest, the Fortescue Mining Group chairman, is pushing to transform Australia into a hydrogen pioneer ahead of COP26.

“This is the age of water now, not the age of oil,’’ he likes to say, taking a line from his mother, Judith, who quizzed him about why he is turning away from Pilbara iron ore to hydrogen.

“I talked her through the economics and the fact that if you couldn’t make eliminating global warming profitable it probably would never be eliminated,” he told The Australian this week.

“I told her how I was going to do it and she said, ‘This is the oil-versus-water argument’ and I have never forgotten. I would much rather be in that water corner than a polluting fuel from the bowels of the earth corner.’’

In the past few weeks in phone calls from London, the billionaire founder of Fortescue has been steering politicians, including from the National Party, to come on board to net zero in 2050 and to support his green revolution.

Dr Forrest says he has never worked harder in his life than while trying to stop global warming after taking a “hellish four-year” PhD in marine science in 2019 to understand the impact of warming oceans. He said those on the land, from farmers to miners, are often misportrayed because they are the “most innovative people’’.

He has shown sceptical politicians how farmers, frustrated with the soaring cost of fertiliser, can benefit if fertiliser plants use green hydrogen, sourced locally, rather than imported gas.

Practically, he will spend $400m converting the Brisbane plant of Incitec Pivot to green energy, keeping 400 local jobs. It will produce about 50,000 tonnes of renewable hydrogen, which will be converted to green ammonia for domestic and export markets. Dr Forrest said such examples of industry “underscores the whole sovereign risk of energy, which Australia suffers’’.

“So, our future, our standard of living for ourselves and the kids, are being determined by people who we will never meet and they will probably never visit,” he said. “Why would you do that if there’s one shot? We have complete sovereignty over energy at all times, and it’s made here by local punters. Why wouldn’t you do it?”

Here in a central London street, Dr Forrest, 59, is making waves ahead of the UN climate conference, which starts on Monday in Glasgow. The players — from royalty to billionaire investors and global business leaders — pay attention when one of the world’s biggest miners and industrialists is in tune with European sentiment that carbon emissions have to go.

Dr Forrest is not only talking about green hydrogen, but putting billion-dollar investments into making it happen.

Some might need a translator when the plain-speaking Dr Forrest talks about “the punters’’ and “the cockies’’, but no one misconstrues his impact and a desire for immediate and practical pathways. He will have two key speaking spots at the COP26 conference to explain his vision.

This month Fortescue Future Industries announced construction of a Green Energy Manufacturing Centre in Queensland with 2GW of electrolysers — which make hydrogen out of water — expected in 2023, as well as making wind turbines, solar panels and electrical cables.

“I put $120m on the table to double the world‘s capacity of electrolysers. I think it’s a pretty small investment. We’re taking that up several times to a billion dollars, because if you have a state which is really encouraging green energy and a great future — which is Queensland — then you need to put the manufacturing there,” he said.

In August Dr Forrest injected $1.03bn in funding to Fortescue Future Industries for future hydrogen investments.

Dr Forrest said that by the end of the COP26 fortnight he wants leaders of the industrial world to have a different understanding of Australia being behind the starting blocks of the green revolution.

“The truth has been denied entry into our country. It allows people to really peddle misinformation of fear,’’ Dr Forrest said.

“And there are still politicians who will stand by a platform of peddling misinformation of fear, whereas the future I see very clearly for the Australian farmer, the Australian regional worker, is at long last their future won’t be pegged to how a couple of sovereign leaders from Russia and Saudi Arabia, wake up with a headache or not and adjust (the price of oil and gas) and impact on whether or not cockies can send the kids to school.’’

He added: “We can make all our energy right here at home’’.

But he wants a level playing field where the “fat’’ billion-dollar subsidies to “old technology’’ are put on a level playing field so that within eight years Australians could be given a choice of buying fossil fuels, or buying green hydrogen, green ammonia or electrification.

“It is important for global leaders to know that Australia will be a huge part of the world‘s green industry revolution, that we will not drop the ball at that, and we will be a major player,’’ Dr Forrest said.

Green energy sovereignty is within the grasp of Australia for the first time and the country will be a competitive supplier to the world.

Australia will quickly catch up and overtake other nations, Dr Forrest said, adding talk of “a transition’’ from fossil fuels to green is illusionary. No one talked about transition from the typewriter to the computer, he argued. The cost of green energy will quickly be on par with fossil fuels.

He said the change will come soon as green ammonia, green electricity and green hydrogen can feed every part of the industrial supply chain — “be it cement, be it steel, be it fertiliser, be it mobility”

“You can answer any of that with electricity, with ammonia or hydrogen, and that can all be pulled down from an infinite source now,” he said.

“So I just want them agreeing. Let’s get on with a practical, implementable solution.”

Translated essential bit:

Forrest wants: “…a level playing field where the “fat’’ billion-dollar subsidies to “old technology’’ are put on a level playing field…”

But how exactly does hydrogen power everything? According to this:

https://phys.org/news/2006-12-hydrogen-economy-doesnt.html

it isn’t energy efficient.

Does that mean he wants paying to convert systems to hydrogen?

Link to the Oz site, where he isn’t doing well in the snake-oil stakes, according to the comments.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Border Closure

…the Supreme Court building is off limits to the unvaxxed — I wonder what they’ll do with the unvaxxed defendants/plaintiffs when subpoena habeas corpus summons their appearance before the Judge?

That could get interesting.
Perhaps they can give a speech via telephone, a la Riccardo Bosi.

FlyingPigs
FlyingPigs
October 26, 2021 8:23 pm

Oh No… a Peoples Court…
We much prefer a Politicians ‘Legal’ Court!

miltonf
miltonf
October 26, 2021 8:28 pm

Oh he’s Dr Forest? Like Dr Jill? Gawd

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 26, 2021 8:30 pm

Any similarities are superficial.
Joh & Dan are ideological opposites

Sal, forget their nominal party allegiances.
I am talking about their personality traits and style.
Commonalities:-
– ruling the party room with an iron fist;
– converting the police force into a tool of party politics;
– treating dissenting media with contempt;
– flicking government contracts to maaaates and freezing out enemies;
– shutting down public protest.
Seeing the parallels?
Hopefully the final one will also play out.
That is, overreach and fall.

rosie
rosie
October 26, 2021 8:31 pm

Apparently it is correct that Andrews has caved on allowing the unvaxxed access to all retail which those of us without a vaxx passport will also be granted free entry. WOOT.

What next, free to all on the 31 November just to pip Don at the post?

miltonf
miltonf
October 26, 2021 8:31 pm

Geez just glancing at that mental vomit above reminds me why at stopped ready that newcorpse rag 10 years ago.

miltonf
miltonf
October 26, 2021 8:32 pm

Hopefully the final one will also play out.
That is, overreach and fall.

Hope so too.

FlyingPigs
FlyingPigs
October 26, 2021 8:33 pm

Do you need to have a rest and talk to your carer?

what! you don’t care for me Panzy???

you are so hurtfull.

Thefrollickingmole
Thefrollickingmole
October 26, 2021 8:34 pm

Green slime are stating that mankind began rooting the warming gerbils in 1750.
That means we have to go back to the population/ energy use of the globe then.
Awesome and not at all insane or impossible.

And yes. Chinese riding boots for the injured foot. May have been alcohol involved.

Dot
Dot
October 26, 2021 8:36 pm

Kick backs from a few brothels in the Valley. None of which reached Joh.

Yeah right. Joh was clean. It was everyone else. Can I buy a piece of the Tree of Knowledge?

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 26, 2021 8:39 pm

But he wants a level playing field where the “fat’’ billion-dollar subsidies to “old technology’’ are put on a level playing field so that within eight years Australians could be given a choice of buying fossil fuels, or buying green hydrogen, green ammonia or electrification.

No mention of the “fat” multi-billion subsidies for solar, wind and batteries being on the table? Colour me unsurprised.

FlyingPigs
FlyingPigs
October 26, 2021 8:39 pm

Dr Forrest and I are going to build night time star nuclear harvesters and the Australian Government will pay us squillions.

PS we have a nuclear reactor so don’t worry.

Baba
Baba
October 26, 2021 8:40 pm

Got proof to contrary, Dot?

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
October 26, 2021 8:40 pm

what! you don’t care for me Panzy???

you are so hurtfull.

Comes with being viscous… 😉

Ed Case
Ed Case
October 26, 2021 8:42 pm

Yeah right. Joh was clean. It was everyone else.

Joh was as dirty as they come.
But the brothels, SP bookies and casinos had been operating since the 1920s, protected by the cops.
Joh wasn’t even a Minister until 1963, how was he going to claim a share of that graft?

FlyingPigs
FlyingPigs
October 26, 2021 8:42 pm

Panzi

I love your work.

FlyingPigs
FlyingPigs
October 26, 2021 8:46 pm

Comes with being viscous… ?

but I ooze!

Razey
Razey
October 26, 2021 8:50 pm

rickwsays:
October 26, 2021 at 8:12 pm
Wont be able to get out with out the vax.

Correct, but will try and hold on for Novavax.

They wont approve a safe and effective vaccine. Especially not for the hold outs.

John of Mel
John of Mel
October 26, 2021 8:52 pm

Wont be able to get out with out the vax.

Not necessarily. I think it depends on the receiving country.
The other day I posted a story of a woman who “fled” to the US in the beginning of October. She only needed to do PCR test to get to LA.
Today Obiden introduced the rule that only vaxxed international travelers will be allowed in the US (unless they cross Rio-Grande of course). So, that path is now closed for some of us.

Zipster
Zipster
October 26, 2021 8:52 pm
Razey
Razey
October 26, 2021 8:54 pm

John of Melsays:
October 26, 2021 at 8:52 pm
Wont be able to get out with out the vax.

Not necessarily. I think it depends on the receiving country.
The other day I posted a story of a woman who “fled” to the US in the beginning of October. She only needed to do PCR test to get to LA.
Today Obiden introduced the rule that only vaxxed international travelers will be allowed in the US (unless they cross Rio-Grande of course). So, that path is now closed for some of us.

The fed gov has already announced that all out bound passengers will require a vax.

And GLA (Gay Leprechaun Airlines) wont even let you on the plane without a vax + PCR test.

FlyingPigs
FlyingPigs
October 26, 2021 8:56 pm

If I may for a moment.

Back in the 1970’s and 1980’s I was involved with 2 distinct renewable energy concepts both involving gas.

Can’t sell the electricity you can produce to us… they said….

Why not we said.,..

Coal is the future they said…

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
October 26, 2021 8:58 pm

They have done so damage over the last 60 years. Evil is an understatement.

The New York Times takes the whole enchilada in the evil stakes — The Gray Lady Winked: How the New York Times’s Misreporting, Distortions and Fabrications Radically Alter History by Ashley Rindsberg.
part of the blurb at Dymocks

The result is an essential look at the tangled relationship between media, power and politics in a post-truth world told with novelistic flair to reveal a uniquely powerful institution’s tortured relationship with the truth.

Most importantly of all, The Gray Lady Winked presents a cautionary tale that shows what happens when the guardians of the truth abandon that sacred value in favor of self-interest and ideology-and what this means for our future as much as for our past.

Heard Ashley Rindsberg interviewed a few weeks ago by Andrew Klavan – apparently he could not get any publisher to take his book, he may have self-published. The book was a response to Rindsberg learning from William L. Shirer’s The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich that, at the outset of World War II, the New York Times reported Poland invaded Germany.

On the list for Christmas

rickw
rickw
October 26, 2021 8:59 pm

The fed gov has already announced that all out bound passengers will require a vax.

And GLA (Gay Leprechaun Airlines) wont even let you on the plane without a vax + PCR test.

Fishing trip to PNG….

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 26, 2021 9:00 pm

rosiesays:

October 26, 2021 at 8:31 pm

Apparently it is correct that Andrews has caved on allowing the unvaxxed access to all retail which those of us without a vaxx passport will also be granted free entry

Had a laugh today.
Dan has totally pissed off the vax resistance.
Then I hear that there has been a quiet change to rules about unvaxxed attending kids supports (Little Athletics etc).
Now allowed.
Nek minnit, Covid Karens are on talk-back complaining about now having to mix with the Great Unwashed.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 26, 2021 9:02 pm

Hunchback is, in fact, viscous and vicious.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Border Closure

Sal, forget their nominal party allegiances.
I am talking about their personality traits and style.

Domineering bosses are boss-like.
Gotcha.

Though Joh didn’t close down protests.
He didn’t allow them to block the public roadways & ruin normal people’s day.
This is not quite the same.

After that, there are many areas where they go in the opposite direction.
eg, taxation, regulation, union power, infrastructure projects, use of resources, allowing people to work, supremacy of individual/collective.

The core and very important difference:
Joh worked for a living for Twenty-Two years before entering parliament.
Andrews has never worked a day in his life, & certainly never cooked for himself.

FlyingPigs
FlyingPigs
October 26, 2021 9:03 pm

Poofta Pansy Government Energy types would not know the difference between wet cow shit nor dry cow shit.

Iron Cove
Iron Cove
October 26, 2021 9:08 pm

I was one on about 420 arrested one afternoon in Brisbane in late 1977 (I think) marching against Joh’s law that effectively gave the Government the right to decide who could and could nor protest on the streets of Brisbane.(Stooge Police Commissioner).
We were the darlings of the left and of civil libertarians and got a lot of sympathetic press.
It’s a good indicator of how much freedom we have lost when none of these three groups will speak up for the right to protest anything Covid related.
And it shows that for the left, the media (birm) and the so called civil liberties mob it was never about free speech at all. Sinistra delenda est !

Gab
Gab
October 26, 2021 9:11 pm

You have got to watch this. It’s 10 mins, Rukshan with Tim Quilty, David Limbrick and that female Dr – all of whom refused to provide their vax status. Listen towards the end to Tim Quilty as he describes how the Andrews government refused to give them and the Liberals any notice of the permanent emergency bill and the arrogance of the Andrews government. They found out that the Bill was going to parliament by accident. https://www.facebook.com/watch/live/?ref=notif&v=555961545502468&notif_id=1635201114925904&notif_t=live_video_explicit

Pedro the Loafer
Pedro the Loafer
October 26, 2021 9:17 pm

Don’t underestimate Twiggy Forrest.

If he is putting cash on the table for R&D on hydrogen, he is expecting a huge ROI from the taxpayer.

FlyingPigs
FlyingPigs
October 26, 2021 9:18 pm

@Boambee John

You worked at Russell?

I’m sure you are a good person and I have learned that other folk that contribute here have also walked those hallowed halls.

What fucked me when I first drove there was to see the huge eagle on the pole that I was told the Americans contributed.

But it looks like a replica from the Nuremberg stadia and always frightens the shit out of me.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
October 26, 2021 9:23 pm

So, I read the phys.org article on hydrogen linked above, and have determined that the science writey mans has declared that the renewable orthodoxy is less shit than the green hydrogen dream.

But the rather large Pink Elephant in the room is that the renewable orthodoxy is still infinitely more shit than the status quo, particularly if nuclear supplements and eventually supplants coal and gas as the primary baseload power source. And coal and gas instead become the basis of liquid fuel self-sufficiency in Oz…

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
October 26, 2021 9:23 pm

#Fischer-TropfDidNothingWrong

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 26, 2021 9:26 pm

the huge eagle on the pole that I was told the Americans contributed.

Phallus in Blunderland.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
October 26, 2021 9:30 pm

The only truly good things about Canberra are the Duntroon Golf Course, Majura Range and the AWM.

(Disclaimer- I hold no opinions about the porn and/or fireworks warehouses in Belconnen, etc., as I have never set foot inside one…)

FlyingPigs
FlyingPigs
October 26, 2021 9:32 pm

Pedro,

I want to build an Australian Nuclear Power Generation Plant.

I know I can do it and where to do it.

People don’t understand but solar panels are sucking in Nuclear Energy…. from the Sun.

miltonf
miltonf
October 26, 2021 9:33 pm

Fyshwick Rex.

Winston Smith
October 26, 2021 9:34 pm

JC:
JC says:
October 26, 2021 at 10:06 am

If they are the major suppliers they’re also vulnerable to buyers going elsewhere and the Chinese lose their investment.
It’s not a monopoly if the barrier to entry isn’t gated up by the state .

You are missing a fundamental fact, JC.
Time.
These industries aren’t set up overnight, you should be aware of that. Even if they are coming from a mothballed state, they take time to run up to full production of the product, construct the trade routes, the vehicles to carry the raw materials and to train the personnel to operate the machinery.

Dot
Dot
October 26, 2021 9:35 pm

Babasays:
October 26, 2021 at 8:40 pm
Got proof to contrary, Dot?

Joh was going to prison for a very long time if he didn’t die.

Don’t be stupid for all of your life.

twostix
twostix
October 26, 2021 9:35 pm

Can my pet get COVID and do they need a vaccine?

An unserious people wither then disappear from history.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Border Closure

Joh was going to prison for a very long time if he didn’t die.

Bullshit.

Dot
Dot
October 26, 2021 9:37 pm

Most pets infected with COVID have had no symptoms or mild disease.(ABC News: Danielle Bonica)

NEWSFLASH, Danielle…

That’s exactly the same for humans.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
October 26, 2021 9:38 pm

But the rather large Pink Elephant in the room is that the renewable orthodoxy is still infinitely more shit than the status quo, particularly if nuclear supplements and eventually supplants coal and gas as the primary baseload power source

Rex we all know renewables have never been carbon neutral but wait till the cleaning up of decommissioned projects begins. Solar panels have quantities of toxic metals in them. I will say one thing, bet that clean up costs are not on the beneficiary. The fly tipping will be legendary once local tips start filling up with them.

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 26, 2021 9:38 pm

Pedro the Loafersays:
October 26, 2021 at 9:17 pm
Don’t underestimate Twiggy Forrest.

If he is putting cash on the table for R&D on hydrogen, he is expecting a huge ROI from the taxpayer.

I would be intrigued to know what proportion of his wealth has come from taxpayer subsidies/never repaid taxpayer “co-investments”. Certainly this latest brain fart will involve subsidies for the solar and wind power he is babbling about “investing” in.

rickw
rickw
October 26, 2021 9:39 pm
Mater
October 26, 2021 9:40 pm

(Disclaimer- I hold no opinions about the porn and/or fireworks warehouses in Belconnen, etc., as I have never set foot inside one…)

The expression you are looking for is:

“I have never darkened the door…”

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 26, 2021 9:41 pm

Flying Pigs

What fucked me when I first drove there was to see the huge eagle on the pole that I was told the Americans contributed.

But it looks like a replica from the Nuremberg stadia and always frightens the shit out of me.

Australian-American memorial. IIRC, put up to commemorate the Battle of the Coral Sea. Known to the unkind as Phallus in Blunderland.

Winston Smith
October 26, 2021 9:41 pm

Calli:
It’s probably been put up already, but this is “Peaches – PD 4341” Incident report as demanded by the office.

Dot
Dot
October 26, 2021 9:44 pm

Joh was going to prison for a very long time if he didn’t die.

Bullshit.

Hmm. Joh died 12 years before the cabinet papers came out.

Was it legal for a premier to make a trade deal with the head of state of a communist country before the fall of the Berlin Wall?

Heck, Bosi might have even had him tried for treason in a “People’s Court”.

On top of that light hearted jab at the Joh tragics, they were covering up prostitution racketeering.

No different to the mafia. The cops were the soldato & associates.

No other head of government has been involved with this in Australia. Wran & Askin might have been on the take, but not like this.

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 26, 2021 9:44 pm

Sancho

Snap on the Phallus in Blunderland comment.

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 26, 2021 9:47 pm

Dot

Hmm. Joh died 12 years before the cabinet papers came out.

Was it legal for a premier to make a trade deal with the head of state of a communist country

Ask TaliDan, he will offer words of comfort.

Yet another parallel.

Pedro the Loafer
Pedro the Loafer
October 26, 2021 9:53 pm

I have done a bit of work on Twiggy projects over the years.

Unlike many other big miners, he always paid his bills on time and was very generous with bonus payments if he was happy with the project outcomes.

He is being painted as a “green loon” lately, but it can’t be denied that he is a very shrewd businessman who can sniff a profit in the air long before his competitors.

Indolent
Indolent
October 26, 2021 9:55 pm

As regards Joh Bjelke Petersen, there can be only one of two conclusions:-
1. He was complicit in rampant police corruption; or
2. He was incredibly inept to have that level of corruption going on under his nose and not know about it.
I would agree with Roger.
He and Andrews are stamped from the same mould.

I can’t comment on items 1 or 2 but there’s one ENORMOUS difference between Joh and Dictator Dan. Corrupt or not, Joh actually tried to advance his state. When was the last time (if ever) that Dan did anything beneficial for Victoria and Victorians? Was it when he sold out to China, or threw $1b away cancelling a road or perhaps when he turned his citizens into moles and their capital city into a desert. Do tell.

Top Ender
Top Ender
October 26, 2021 9:57 pm

True: it can’t be denied that he is a very shrewd businessman who can sniff a profit in the air long before his competitors.

The only trouble is his idea is give us a trillion bucks and I’ll give you a chain of hydrogen service stations.

Dot
Dot
October 26, 2021 9:57 pm

I can’t comment on items 1 or 2 but there’s one ENORMOUS difference between Joh and Dictator Dan. Corrupt or not, Joh actually tried to advance his state. When was the last time (if ever) that Dan did anything beneficial for Victoria and Victorians? Was it when he sold out to China, or threw $1b away cancelling a road or perhaps when he turned his citizens into moles and their capital city into a desert. Do tell.

Yeah. So I said Dan is way worse than Joh was. The non-Joh tragics actually agreed.

Winston Smith
October 26, 2021 9:58 pm

ZK2A:

The Times view on Afghanistan’s food crisis: Hunger in Kabul
There is a moral duty to extend aid to the country as it scrambles to avoid famine
Monday October 25 2021, 9.00pm BST, The Times

No.
They worked hard to get the West out of their country.
And now their people are starving. I feel sorrow for their plight especially for their kids, but they refused to fight for their freedoms and rights, so they can sleep in the cockroach and fly ridden beds they created for themselves.
See how well praying five times a day fills your bellies.
Good riddance.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 26, 2021 9:58 pm

“I have never darkened the door…”

I saw what you did there, Mater..

srr
srr
October 26, 2021 10:01 pm

VIC: State of Emergency Forever

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Lb39c7cQiw

Premiered 2 hours ago
Discernable
26.3K subscribers
Shadow Minister for Local Government and Resources Richard Riordan MP spoke to us today on the outrageous dictatorial powers Daniel Andrews is forcing through parliament.

Richard also reassured us of the Liberal Party’s commitment to scrap these totalitarian laws if elected.

Discernable will be studying Bill and making a complete explainer video as soon as possible, so we can all understand exactly what is happening in Victoria.

In the meantime, you can read a draft bill here: https://www.smh.com.au/interactive/hub/media/tearout-excerpt/4025/591316B.D12-(1).pdf

Muddy
Muddy
October 26, 2021 10:05 pm

Don’t miss your chance to ridicule Muddy on AdamCat!

FlyingPigs
FlyingPigs
October 26, 2021 10:08 pm

but Bosi worries you because “Peoples Court”.

Obviously you don’t believe in “People” but what… “Politicians”…

sounds good Panzy.

go for it…

Ed Case
Ed Case
October 26, 2021 10:08 pm

No different to the mafia. The cops were the soldato & associates.

The cops were standing over casinos, SP bookmaking and brothels back in the 1920s when Joh was a teenage yokel down on the farm.
Tell us how he got to be the Godfather, Dot?

FlyingPigs
FlyingPigs
October 26, 2021 10:15 pm

Australian-American memorial. IIRC, put up to commemorate the Battle of the Coral Sea. Known to the unkind as Phallus in Blunderland.

yes…

and still looks like Nuremberg paraphernalia.

Check the Eagle on top.

You think the ADF works for Australia??

Lazlo
Lazlo
October 26, 2021 10:18 pm

A couple of weeks ago the Facebook empire was taken down globally for a number of hours.

Since yesterday, Foxtel streaming via IQ5 boxes has been taken down with the error message: ‘you are not a subscriber’.

This evening, streaming from Netflix is unavailable because ‘you have too many watching under your subscription’ (which we don’t).

Feels like someone has hacked the back-end accounting systems of Foxtel and Netflix in order to disable their services.

Someone is saying: we can do this.

Zipster
Zipster
October 26, 2021 10:19 pm

Mike Pompeo: We are talking about pronouns, not Americans
Former CIA director slams Biden administration for misleading public on the thousands who have a right to return to the U.S. from Afghanistan on ‘Hannity’ #FoxNews #Hannity

Dot
Dot
October 26, 2021 10:19 pm

The cops were standing over casinos, SP bookmaking and brothels back in the 1920s when Joh was a teenage yokel down on the farm.

Ah yes. All organised crime in Australia goes back to the 1800s.

Not the ‘Ndrangheta, but the Rum Corps.

All pollies get to be “made” in the Rum Corps.

You genius, fathead Case.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 26, 2021 10:22 pm

but Bosi worries you because “Peoples Court”.

He doesn’t worry me as such, because I am highly confident that he will be a tragic footnote after the next election.
In some respects it would be fun to see him elected and see his ego expand to Hindenburg size before … well, we know how that ended.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 26, 2021 10:33 pm

but Bosi worries you

It worries me that a) people might be drawn to any alternative other than the current incompetent shambles, and b) more importantly, Mr Bosi’s idea of a justice and/or legal system is this:

I am my own authority, and you will submit to me just as you will submit to the other millions of Australians.

Mr Bosi’s ‘We The People’ appears to consist of Bosi himself and whichever family members are in favour at any given time. So yeah, it worrying. But it doesn’t worry me as such. Yet.

You really think Adam Bandt or Fiona Patten wouldn’t just love having that sort of power, over and above what they already have?

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 26, 2021 10:36 pm

Hmm.

When I said people might be drawn to any alternative other than the current incompetent shambles just now, please do NOT interpret that as any support whatsoever for Andrews.

I would seriously be okay with him doing 25 on the top in Barwon.

Firing squad? Well, no, but then again I don’t live in Victoria and haven’t had to endure his monstrous destruction.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
October 26, 2021 10:42 pm

Our Foxtel is still out and a thousand apologies are being offered but no explanation.

Ok, I say, we’ll get something on Netflix, and lo and behold, Netflix says too many others are using our subscription so that’s out too. No-one else that we know of has access to our subscription.

Hairy mumbling about cyber attacks at the level of subscribers. Anyone else got this?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 26, 2021 10:46 pm

I am my own authority, and you will submit to me just as you will submit to the other millions of Australians.

Whoa!
Who are these “millions of Australians” kimo-sabe?
Why am I reminded of that Iraqi Information Minister, ‘Comical Ali’?

Fat Tony
Fat Tony
October 26, 2021 10:48 pm

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare says:
October 26, 2021 at 10:42 pm

Lizzie – I just checked Netflix – I can log in ok & play movie
I am west of Brisbane

FlyingPigs
FlyingPigs
October 26, 2021 10:49 pm

You really think Adam Bandt or Fiona Patten wouldn’t just love having that sort of power, over and above what they already have?

You really think they won’t and don’t have it already????

Why you think it won’t pass…

KD… and I’m sure the degree of difficulty would be a ‘tad’ difficult but get your Mum up there with you????

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 26, 2021 10:50 pm

That’s the point.

I will not support someone clearly intending to set himself up as some sort of demi-god.

Who has one skill set.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 26, 2021 10:54 pm

You really think they won’t and don’t have it already????

Right now, Pigsy, they don’t have the legislative power to execute someone for ‘political warfare’, whatever that is. And that’s exactly what Bosi wants. It’s in his manifesto. That he actually calls a manifesto.

I’m sure the degree of difficulty would be a ‘tad’ difficult but get your Mum up there with you????

Mum was up here about five or six years back (with the old man). Waaaay too hot for both of them, and Mum freaks like a French Bulldog whenever there’s thunder, so no. As nice as it would be.

Besides, she reckons she’s staying in the ancestral seat where all her social networks and friends are, and where her bowling club is. Fair enough too, I reckon.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
October 26, 2021 10:55 pm

Anyway, I’m off to bed. Still not completely recovered and have 3 ultrasounds in the next ten days.

It has been a glorious Spring day in Sydney. Our Jacaranda tree is large and spreading and is at its blue/mauve best during its glorious flowering, which wafts lightly scented blossom aromas into our rooms. I have spent the day quietly marvelling at the natural beauty surrounding me and enjoying our two fledgies who are now spilling over their nest, the urge to flight coming upon them. Not yet, I caution them, not yet. I passed the time dreaming and read the ‘Life’ series on this week’s Speccie which arrived in the post this morning. Rodney Clarke’s Low-Life piece was very simple but poignant. He has serious cancer and was doing some house sitting for a woman who abruptly departed from life recently in this place, her long-term domicile, her things left behind. A chill in the Spring air.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
October 26, 2021 10:55 pm

Rex we all know renewables have never been carbon neutral but wait till the cleaning up of decommissioned projects begins. Solar panels have quantities of toxic metals in them. I will say one thing, bet that clean up costs are not on the beneficiary. The fly tipping will be legendary once local tips start filling up with them.

Oh yes.

And there will be a great many embittered Upper Middle Morons whose feed-in tariff dreams were reduced to dust the moment their panels finally crapped out and the economics of replacement with more became unworkable.

In fact, I’d wager the sharp price increases in solar panels now appearing thanks to China’s power crunch and anti-smog crusade prior to the Winter Olympics might already be exposing the rotting underbelly of the Green Solar Dream…

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 26, 2021 10:55 pm

Who has one skill set.

Maximum of one.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
October 26, 2021 10:56 pm

And as far as pr0n and boom-boom shops in Fyshwick (thankee for the geographic corrections) are concerned, I was only ever driven past them.

Too busy at the time…

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
October 26, 2021 10:59 pm

Besides, she reckons she’s staying in the ancestral seat where all her social networks and friends are, and where her bowling club is. Fair enough too, I reckon.

Definitely. You can still pay close attention to how she is getting on.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 26, 2021 11:00 pm

I will not support someone clearly intending to set himself up as some sort of demi-god.

Demi-god?
Is that a TAFE Cert IV course?

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 26, 2021 11:01 pm

Anyway, I’m off to bed. Still not completely recovered and have 3 ultrasounds in the next ten days.

All good wishes for a full recovery, LizzieB.

Zipster
Zipster
October 26, 2021 11:11 pm

Hairy mumbling about cyber attacks at the level of subscribers. Anyone else got this?

yep. your passwords are leaked by numerous sites. If you are like most people you recycle passwords or have variation on a theme.

Apple and google will tell you if you go into security setup which of your accounts it knows about that have been compromised based on known leaks.

hackers cross correlate your known passwords with netflix logins and voila, free netflix. You have to call netflix to get your account back.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 26, 2021 11:13 pm

The choppers did 6 runs over the Cooper Park.
I didn’t even look up for the final 3.
I suppose training runs over hilly, urban terrain is worthwhile.

Zipster
Zipster
October 26, 2021 11:13 pm

Feels like someone has hacked the back-end accounting systems of Foxtel and Netflix in order to disable their services.

nope, it’s your passwords leaking through wifi or other websites that have been compromised or trojan, viruses on PCs/laptops.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
October 26, 2021 11:16 pm

@ Bern-

Then the lucky buggers will start doing it under NVG and/or instruments, then at night.

And then comes Operational Conversion, and getting used to doing it in something bigger, faster and heavier. And maybe even under fire…

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
October 26, 2021 11:20 pm

One of the more surreal moments I remember from living in a cheapish on Adelaide Terrace a few years back, was watching the very good Forward Scout Films’ DVD doco series on the SASR one rather foggy night in midwinter, only to then hear the clatter of big helicopter rotor blades.

I went out the front door to see and hear several Blackhawks fly overhead, silhouetted against the fog by the red of their anti-collision beacons.

171 SQN (and presumably the Cats themselves) were conducting night flying training serials over the CBD, blacked out.

Pretty damned spectacular.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
October 26, 2021 11:21 pm

One of the more surreal moments I remember from living in a cheapish flat on Adelaide Terrace a few years back…

Missed a word.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 26, 2021 11:30 pm

I finished watching The North Water.
5 episodes.
First 3 were pretty awesome in a kind of Cormac McCarthy The Road way.
Final 2 were a waste of time.
Pity.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 26, 2021 11:32 pm

Quinton De Kock withdraws from South Africa team as players ordered to take knee

By Afp
AFP
9 minutes ago October 26, 2021
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Quinton de Kock has withdrawn from South Africa’s Twenty20 World Cup match against the West Indies “for personal reasons” after the country’s cricket board ordered players to take the knee.

Skipper Temba Bavuma said the star wicketkeeper-batsman, a former national captain, had made himself unavailable on Tuesday due to “personal reasons” in their crucial Super 12 match in Dubai.

The decision raised eyebrows as De Kock, 28, had previously refused to take part in the anti-racism gesture that has become a regular feature in most sporting events.

“The Cricket South Africa board on Monday evening unanimously agreed to issue a directive requiring all Proteas players to adopt a consistent and united stance against racism by ‘taking the knee’ prior to the start of their remaining World Cup matches,” said a CSA statement.

“Concerns were raised that the different postures taken by team members in support of the BLM (Black Lives Matter) initiative created an unintended perception of disparity or lack of support for the initiative.

“After considering all relevant issues, including the position of the players, the board felt that it was imperative for the team to be seen taking a united and consistent stand against racism, especially given SA’s history.”

Lazlo
Lazlo
October 26, 2021 11:34 pm

Maybe zippy. WiFi (WEP) security is strong now and not worth trying to hack because there are easier targets. There is no PC/laptop involved here, just a Smart TV but, sure, that is hackable. But our Foxtel/Netflix passwords would (should) be held on their servers, not the TV. My hypothesis stands.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 26, 2021 11:40 pm

Earlier this year, management told several unhappy ABC staff that Milligan had her contract amended so that if a defamation case was lost in the future she would be personally liable.

After today’s Senate hearing, if the ABC was concerned about leaks before, it’s going to get turned up to eleventy now.

https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/abc-boss-defends-decision-to-pay-louise-milligan-s-200-000-defamation-costs-20211026-p59345.html

Lazlo
Lazlo
October 26, 2021 11:42 pm

hackers cross correlate your known passwords with netflix logins and voila, free netflix. You have to call netflix to get your account back.

This doesn’t feel like organised cyber-crime/warfare then. Just freeloading hackers?

Winston Smith
October 26, 2021 11:46 pm

Rickw:

Wont be able to get out with out the vax.

Correct, but will try and hold on for Novavax.

Does PNG stop you from flying out to the world?
Hire a tinnie, a big one, or a fishing charter and head north from the Cape.

Zipster
Zipster
October 26, 2021 11:55 pm

This doesn’t feel like organised cyber-crime/warfare then. Just freeloading hackers?

could be either

Zipster
Zipster
October 26, 2021 11:58 pm

WiFi (WEP) security is strong now and not worth trying to hack because there are easier targets.

no its not secure unless you have a 11+ character wifi password. also some devices just leak passwords by sending them unencrypted across wifi, like the Meater Temp Probe base as I discovered.

JD
JD
October 27, 2021 12:04 am

Let’s Go Brandon: Country and Western Style!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSpust_i28I

Lazlo
Lazlo
October 27, 2021 12:04 am

could be either

Indeed. QED. I said it felt like a server-side hack. Our Netflix and Foxtel passwords are different, the latter unique to Foxtel, never entered (by us) on our TV, and nowhere else. So both services go out within 24 hours over subscription lock-outs?

Lazlo
Lazlo
October 27, 2021 12:12 am

There again, I am a very old-fashioned, server kind of guy, having written my first program in ALGOL60, executed on an IBM 7094.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 27, 2021 12:27 am

Earlier this year, management told several unhappy ABC staff that Milligan had her contract amended so that if a defamation case was lost in the future she would be personally liable.

The ABC investigation into the live cattle trade, to Indonesia – based on footage brought and paid for by the animal liberation movement – cost me a fair sum. Why should the pampered darlings of the ABC escape the consequences of their actions?

Shut It Down!

Fire Them All!

Bushkid
Bushkid
October 27, 2021 12:53 am

Just sent my Digital ID Bill submission off. Had to take the option to email it to the lawyer group instead of using the govt on-line form. The damned thing repeatedly failed to load, I couldn’t even get to the submission form itself, just kept getting half a black (not just blank, but actually black) page below the introduction at the top. A few days ago I checked it out and it was loading just fine, but not tonight. Hopefully, it’s having a meltdown from all the submissions coming in!

I just hope I haven’t left it too late for the lawyers group to collate it into their collective submission. I have to work away from home tomorrow, out early and home late, so had to get it in tonight.

Winston Smith
October 27, 2021 3:47 am

From American Thinker:
The Loudon School rape cover up.

Winston Smith
October 27, 2021 3:53 am

From American Thinker:
How Many People Must Be Thrown into the Volcano Before the Left Is Happy?
The Left will be unhappy for eternity. Even if there were just three people left alive on the planet, two of them will kill the third for ‘thoughtcrimes’.
Their religion demands conformity, and if you don’t conform, you must die.

Tom
Tom
October 27, 2021 4:08 am
Tom
Tom
October 27, 2021 4:09 am
Tom
Tom
October 27, 2021 4:10 am
Tom
Tom
October 27, 2021 4:12 am

David Rowe poo “joke”. FMD.

Tom
Tom
October 27, 2021 4:13 am
Tom
Tom
October 27, 2021 4:14 am
Tom
Tom
October 27, 2021 4:15 am
Tom
Tom
October 27, 2021 4:16 am
Tom
Tom
October 27, 2021 4:18 am
Tom
Tom
October 27, 2021 4:19 am
Tom
Tom
October 27, 2021 4:20 am
Tom
Tom
October 27, 2021 4:21 am
Tom
Tom
October 27, 2021 4:22 am
Tom
Tom
October 27, 2021 4:24 am
Tom
Tom
October 27, 2021 4:25 am
jupes
jupes
October 27, 2021 4:41 am

Chip Bok. Literally how the US is right now.

Winston Smith
October 27, 2021 4:55 am
Winston Smith
October 27, 2021 5:01 am

A surgeon was fired after speaking up at a school board meeting.
He spoke in favor of parents making health care decisions for their children regarding mask mandates.

This isn’t about health and disease – it’s about compliance and coercion by authorities.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 27, 2021 5:19 am

Hannah Gadsby would be loving the publicity Dave Chappelle is giving them.

rosie
rosie
October 27, 2021 6:13 am

I wonder if Dan’s capitulation is became so many people either refuse to download the vaccine passport, even though they’re eligible or can’t became they are several weeks away from a second shot and that’s too big a demographic to further tick off.
Plus the cohort that simply object to having to having to check /prove their medical status to buy a pair of shoes or help at community sports
Thats a significant burden on volunteers/small businesses.

rickw
rickw
October 27, 2021 6:31 am
feelthebern
feelthebern
October 27, 2021 6:34 am

rickw, shouldn’t you be enjoying a sleep in?

rickw
rickw
October 27, 2021 6:37 am
sfw
sfw
October 27, 2021 6:40 am

Rosie – “That’s a significant burden on volunteers/small businesses.”

Dan hates small business, that burden would be a positive for him.

rosie
rosie
October 27, 2021 6:45 am
Mater
October 27, 2021 6:53 am

Plus the cohort that simply object to having to having to check /prove their medical status to buy a pair of shoes or help at community sports
Thats a significant burden on volunteers/small businesses.

I can confirm that the local sports have died because large holes have appeared in umpiring, coaching and managing. I’ve been approached to recommit because of the shortage, and had to decline because I’m also unclean.

For one of my sons teams, every single volunteer position has had to be vacated. Despite the league reopening, it’s highly unlikely that the team can participate. Come the 24th (when the 12+ become unclean), they will lose half their players anyway.

People aren’t going to be pressured into jabs because they are not allowed to VOLUNTEER their time to the community, well I’m not anyway. The community (as a whole) has let me know what it really thinks. I’m currently sharing refreshments along side the dogs outside the local cafe.

It’s actually been a revelation to note who has taken the jab. Forcing them to relinquish their positions has forced them out into the open…not that I think that’s a good thing. The holdouts are definitely not alone. Dan might think we are irrelevant to his ‘economy’, but it appears we are not so irrelevant to the community.

rosie
rosie
October 27, 2021 6:56 am

True sfw
But he does care about votes.
I linked to a Catholic parish website the other day where the pp was refusing to expect people to provide medical status to attend mass, im just wondering how many people feel the same way and if that’s enough to put pressure on Andrews.
Some parishes are offering both vaxxed and status unknown masses, I’ve found one of the later to take my mother to next Sunday, maximum allowed is 30.

Winston Smith
October 27, 2021 6:59 am

Rosie:

I wonder if Dan’s capitulation is became so many people either refuse to download the vaccine passport, even though they’re eligible or can’t became they are several weeks away from a second shot and that’s too big a demographic to further tick off.
Plus the cohort that simply object to having to having to check /prove their medical status to buy a pair of shoes or help at community sports

Dan is as cunning as a rat with a gold tooth – he knows he’s pushed as far as he can get away with and having nearly achieved his goal – a Permanent SoE that he can pull out of hat at any time of his own choosing, he’s making out he’s the Great Benefactor by giving back some of the Rights he has stolen.
The danger isn’t past, the cattle may think sticking their heads into the feed bin right now is the reward, but there’s a bolt about to put an end to us whenever he can pull the trigger.

rosie
rosie
October 27, 2021 7:01 am

Not really.
It’s still a democracy and there is an election coming up.

Mater
October 27, 2021 7:08 am

It’s still a democracy

So are our unvaxxed representatives allowed into Parliament?
Are all traditional conventions being adhered to? Will the unvaxxed/won’t declare be allowed to vote in person?
I’m not 100% convinced this statement will remain valid between now and November, at least not as we currently understand it.

Cassie of Sydney
October 27, 2021 7:14 am

Zulu Kilo Two Alphasays:
October 27, 2021 at 12:27 am

“Why should the pampered darlings of the ABC escape the consequences of their actions?”

Zulu…what planet are you on? We now live in a time where the left always escape the consequences of their actions.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 27, 2021 7:17 am

It’s still a democracy

LOL.
Same bucket as the rule of law & property rights.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 27, 2021 7:21 am

It’s still a democracy

That’s what the Yanks thought.

Dot
Dot
October 27, 2021 7:23 am

cohenite – if you’re around – what are the predicted and real changes on the tide gauge in Sydney Harbour from 1880 to current year?

Winston Smith
October 27, 2021 7:24 am

rosie:

It’s still a democracy and there is an election coming up.

And with unvaccinated refused to attend the voting place, and – if as we suspect – they will have to get mail in votes…
Well, we saw the way that turned out in the US.
The Democrats have had teams over here ‘advising’ the Victorian government on “election strategies.”
Yes, I’m a cynic.
Politics in Australia has taught me that.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 27, 2021 7:25 am

Just ask yourself: Do you have standing?

Razey
Razey
October 27, 2021 7:25 am

feelthebernsays:
October 27, 2021 at 7:17 am
It’s still a democracy

LOL.
Same bucket as the rule of law & property rights.

Not to mention we no longer have any human rights. As confirmed by the NSW supreme court.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 27, 2021 7:28 am

Did this guy have standing?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRaa1js92Hk

All he wanted was a succulent Chinese meal.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 27, 2021 7:29 am

Interesting that the BBC has been caught faking Steve McIntyre’s Climate Audit blog posts.

BBC’s Fake Climate Audit Screengrab (25 Oct)

I think this is yet another tell that they know they’re wrong about global warming, but are desperate to keep people snowed while their agenda is being furthered. If they were sure about themselves they would not lie and commit actual fraud so blatantly.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 27, 2021 7:32 am

All he wanted was a succulent Chinese meal.

Brought undone, he was, by people who knew their judo.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 27, 2021 7:33 am

Rumble has bought Locals.
Wonder how much Rubin now owns of Rumble?

Dot
Dot
October 27, 2021 7:33 am

Just saw the most ridiculous thing regarding R Kelly.

A woman claimed she was groomed when she was…17 and was then subjected to years of sexual abuse.

What a grifter.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 27, 2021 7:35 am

Just saw the most ridiculous thing regarding R Kelly.

That’s sane compared to the Libs of TikTok post today.
Virginity is a social construct.

Hmmmmmmm.
Believe the science.

Crossie
Crossie
October 27, 2021 7:36 am

I have just watched Angus Taylor being interviewed on Sky and defending the Zero Net. When asked why LNP would not consider nuclear power he said because Labor would not go for it and it must be bipartisan.

Since when is our parliament working by consensus? Wouldn’t the best option be to persuade the public and take it to an election?

The other stupidly was his championship of hydrogen generated power. If it is so good why isn’t it used already?

And lastly he kept saying that we must do what our Asian allies South Korea and Japan are doing. I nearly yelled at the TV would that be the same Japan that is using our coal in their clean coal power stations?

struth
struth
October 27, 2021 7:36 am

Bloody hell Notafan, you are delusional.

Just take a moment, just a moment KD, and think about your attitude toward your fellow citizens fostered by a stint as a vicpol lunatic.

Every day, nuffies of all flavours present themselves before courts demanding their day. People whose dogs are not all barking have issues with every law under the sun, not just the current crop of square-pegged-in-round-holed shit regulations invented by suddenly-important medical cube dwellers.

Magistrates (not judges, as they like to style themselves) hear about chemtrails and 5G towers and little magnets under the sink that block the visions and black helicopters and secret agents dressed like postmen and why can’t you fingerprint that brick on a daily basis.

It’s not a TV show. They’re not compelled to listen to all of it, all the time.

People just not complying….bloody fruit loops all.
You’re so above it.
This is where we part ways.
You just want people to comly to bad laws because if they don’t, they’re nuffies of all flavours, but as we see here, like a typical Jack boot, you haven’t really been listening to their reasons and don’t care, after all, you can’t change things can you?
This is where me and you always differ although we agree on most things.
How about this regards Bosi.
Could it be that he has done a Trump?
Made himself an enemy of the media so in attacking him they give him air he was being denied?
I’m not pro his carry on regards pedos, although it’s naive to believe people that can be manipulated for fear of being exposed are often elevated for that very reason, as was a major concern when I worked at Pine Gap.
It’s a bad move politically.
But to just dismiss his statement, which was correct in every way, as an Australian court should not be participating in unconstitutional rulings and enforcing them.

rosie
rosie
October 27, 2021 7:37 am

Why else is Dan Andrews conceding ground if he’s not concerned about polling?
Yes I get that all the koolkids know so much more than us ordinaries.
Maybe Limbrick’s stand is having an effect.
SeEms to have revved the liberals up to taking a position about state of emergency powers.
Peeks over the border at nsw where things are somewhat different.

Cassie of Sydney
October 27, 2021 7:38 am

So Scumbag Morrison has put the kibosh on any nuclear programme.

Another reason for the Australian voter to put the kibosh on Scumbag Morrison and the Coalition.

Dot
Dot
October 27, 2021 7:38 am

Virginity is a social construct.

Interesting. If you can prove that implies a fact which is not a social construct, I may have plans for the weekend.

rosie
rosie
October 27, 2021 7:38 am

Four days remaining!

Dot
Dot
October 27, 2021 7:40 am

So Scumbag Morrison has put the kibosh on any nuclear programme

What an idiot. He’s literally anti science (no joke) and anti civilisational.

Any “nett zero” stupidity without nuclear to back it up is ruinous.

Cassie of Sydney
October 27, 2021 7:40 am

“Could it be that he has done a Trump?”

No.

hzhousewife
hzhousewife
October 27, 2021 7:41 am

Milligan has been nominated for a Walkley. Journos will give it to her as a F U to the great unwashed. Wanna bet Dan has been nominated for Aussie of the Year?

Dot
Dot
October 27, 2021 7:41 am

How about this regards Bosi.
Could it be that he has done a Trump?

Fuck no.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 27, 2021 7:41 am

Douglas Murray is about the only person I’ve seen calling BS on the Indian cricket team taking a knee when they still have biggest institutionalised discrimination program in the world (the caste system).

Razey
Razey
October 27, 2021 7:42 am

rosiesays:
October 27, 2021 at 7:37 am
Why else is Dan Andrews conceding ground if he’s not concerned about polling?
Yes I get that all the koolkids know so much more than us ordinaries.
Maybe Limbrick’s stand is having an effect.
SeEms to have revved the liberals up to taking a position about state of emergency powers.
Peeks over the border at nsw where things are somewhat different.

Liberal know they cant win this election and also know that once the Hunchback Fascist gets his dictatorial powers, they will never be able to win. This is a fight to survive even being able to fight in the future.

Winston Smith
October 27, 2021 7:42 am

Just a quick mention of the video from the beanie bloke:
Noam Chomsky said to segregate the unvaxxed into camps if they won’t follow the rules.
“But how will they get food?”
“Well that’s their problem.”
Anyone remember the Weather Underground and their claim they’d have to build camps for 40 million people after the revolution?
Have they forgotten just who grows the food?
Remember the “Gardens” in the Free Zones at the height of the riots?
These idiots are building castles in the air, living in them, and paying rent to the owners. That’s how disconnected they are from reality.
Then when it all turns to shit and they are sent into the fields to pull ploughs for the peasants because the tractors are all busted, have no fuel, and they are starving, then they’ll riot and demand their rights while sobbing into the half a cup of gruel ration each day saying “Oh! If only Stalin knew.”
Human stupidity – it’s the only inexhaustable supply of anything in the Universe.

Mater
October 27, 2021 7:43 am

Dan might think we are irrelevant to his ‘economy’, but it appears we are not so irrelevant to the community.

I’ll state this categorically. If people refuse to use the passports (even if only selectively*), this shit will fall apart, and people will start putting the blame back to where it belongs, Dan. After all, the figures say people are largely vaxxed, so the community health angle is moot. It’d no longer be a ‘pandemic of the unvaxxed’, the ongoing pain would be a result of Government bureaucracy.

*By this I mean to keep your job, compassionate travel, etc.

rosie
rosie
October 27, 2021 7:47 am

The Herald Sun is giving Tim a lot of space, good news for the lnp in Victoria, and hopefully a reflection of public sentiment.

another Tim Smith column , this one opposing the emergency powers legislation

Razey
Razey
October 27, 2021 7:49 am

rosiesays:
October 27, 2021 at 7:47 am
The Herald Sun is giving Tim a lot of space, good news for the lnp in Victoria, and hopefully a reflection of public sentiment.

another Tim Smith column , this one opposing the emergency powers legislation

Even ultra-left scum like Neil Mitchel are against it.

Dot
Dot
October 27, 2021 7:50 am

Anyone remember the Weather Underground and their claim they’d have to build camps for 40 million people after the revolution?

LOL

They’re as manly as Barry Obama.

Girly arms and useless without an underclass of low IQ pigs.

Cassie of Sydney
October 27, 2021 7:51 am

So Louse Nilligan has peddled lies about Cardinal George Pell and Christian Porter and defamed Andrew Laming….yet she’s nominated for a Wokeley.

Not only do leftist scum escape consequences for their lies, they’re actually rewarded for those lies.

rosie
rosie
October 27, 2021 7:51 am

I’m sorry razey but where does your certainty that the majority of Victorians in general and Melbournians in particular are delighted with Dan’s performance?
I wouldn’t confuse willingness to get vaccinated with support for Danbully.

Crossie
Crossie
October 27, 2021 7:55 am

Plus the cohort that simply object to having to having to check /prove their medical status to buy a pair of shoes or help at community sports
Thats a significant burden on volunteers/small businesses.

I wonder how long it will be before a black market in consumer goods comes to life like in the old Soviet Union.

rosie
rosie
October 27, 2021 7:55 am

If Neil Mitchell is against it, and Victorians are absolutely sick of it, don’t you think that might mean something at the polling booth.

johanna
johanna
October 27, 2021 7:55 am

BoN – how low can TheirBBC go?

Faked mock-ups of pages on Steve McIntyre’s site is a backhanded compliment, I suppose. It does demonstrate just how much they (rightly) fear the great man.

But, talk about fake news! Their editorial standards have sunk below those of the redtops they so despise.

Razey
Razey
October 27, 2021 7:56 am

rosiesays:
October 27, 2021 at 7:51 am
I’m sorry razey but where does your certainty that the majority of Victorians in general and Melbournians in particular are delighted with Dan’s performance?
I wouldn’t confuse willingness to get vaccinated with support for Danbully.

The average sheep in Melbourne loves to be told what to do by Dickears Hunchback.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 27, 2021 7:58 am

St. Ruth, from the first of Wednesday’s epistles:

You just want people to comly to bad laws

No. I do not. This was all gone through 24 hours ago, and as usual you are a day late and a dollar short. I have zero problem with non-compliance. I am fiercely anti-mandatory needling. I don’t know how many times I need to say this.

It is not about Bosi’s refusal to comply.

It is (for me) Bosi’s colossal arrogance that he can announce a ‘despatch’ as a call to arms, chockers full of statements already described at length, and which he marketed as a ‘speech to the court’.

Which turned out to be an over-the-phone rant, which was cut off after three lines because the people on the other side of the line (courageously, he encouraged standing, fighting, if necessary falling, and intended to mention secret oaths and six [now FOUR] days to repent or face the wrath of We The People from the other side of the country – sound familiar?) had heard it all before and hung up on him.

How about this regards Bosi.
Could it be that he has done a Trump?
Made himself an enemy of the media so in attacking him they give him air he was being denied?

No.

The intended media juggernaut turned out to be a ranking of 30 on an ABC site underneath the local Coffs Coast news.

But to just dismiss his statement, which was correct in every way

Oh. Was it now? What’s going to happen in four days, St. Ruth? Big Things? Very Big Things?

Have you a Great Prediction? I know I’ve asked you this before and not received an answer, but -who exactly will sit in judgment on behalf of We The People?

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 27, 2021 8:02 am

Snap Cassie and Dot.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 27, 2021 8:03 am

it’s naive to believe people that can be manipulated for fear of being exposed are often elevated for that very reason, as was a major concern when I worked at Pine Gap.

Hey, even the Pine Gap people like bread. It’s not going to drive itself from Alice.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 27, 2021 8:03 am

Even ultra-left scum like Neil Mitchel are against it.

Organised dissent.
Then Andrews walks back some of it.
Then Mitchell says well the revised powers seem more reasonable.
Then it gets easy passage.

Crossie
Crossie
October 27, 2021 8:04 am

Dan is as cunning as a rat with a gold tooth – he knows he’s pushed as far as he can get away with and having nearly achieved his goal – a Permanent SoE that he can pull out of hat at any time of his own choosing, he’s making out he’s the Great Benefactor by giving back some of the Rights he has stolen.
The danger isn’t past, the cattle may think sticking their heads into the feed bin right now is the reward, but there’s a bolt about to put an end to us whenever he can pull the trigger.

Winston Smith, a real conservative federal government can put a stop to that by invoking the commonwealth constitution which takes precedence over a state constitution, Bob Hawke proved it over the Franklin Dam case.

Victorian residents are being discriminated against by the application of Victorian laws therefore they can sue in the High Court and the Prime Minister could support the case. Scott Morrison is not that man as he has proved by not supporting Palmer against McGowan. We will have to wait for a different leader and a different party.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 27, 2021 8:04 am

Also:

as was a major concern when I worked at Pine Gap

Faulty-esque hinting at dark secrets.

Still submitting your work through the censor, St. Ruth?

calli
calli
October 27, 2021 8:05 am

BoN – how low can TheirBBC go?

Oh, they’re low alright. Having the BEEB streamed into the ship (remember cruises?) along with the American services, all they are is CNN with pommy accents.

The only difference – their non-news stuff can be worthwhile. So the public might be getting a little something for their money.

srr
srr
October 27, 2021 8:06 am

Some parishes are offering both vaxxed and status unknown masses, I’ve found one of the later to take my mother to next Sunday, maximum allowed is 30.

Wow.

The thing that gets me, with all the ANTI-Science that’s been used to force experimental concoctions into vulnerable, powerless people, is that The Catholic Church used to be the great educator of the world, not in the least in the field of medicine, yet now when we needed Her the most, She sat schtum, let the anti-Christs run amok and then joined in selling The Spirit of Fear for The Children of The Father of The Lie, The First Murderer.

A surgeon was fired after speaking up at a school board meeting.
He spoke in favor of parents making health care decisions for their children regarding mask mandates.

This isn’t about health and disease – it’s about compliance and coercion by authorities.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 27, 2021 8:10 am

Indians racist? Noooooooo ….

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
October 27, 2021 8:11 am

The Queen is poorly.
Phil got vaccinated and now it’s doing a job on Bess.
The fully vaccinated elderly are still doing the overwhelming majority of the dying from Covid.
Nobody really cares.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 27, 2021 8:11 am

Not the Bee.

A new public benefit corporation backed by billionaires Reid Hoffman, George Soros, and others is launching Tuesday to fund new media companies and efforts that tackle disinformation.

https://www.axios.com/soros-hoffman-disinformation-tara-mcgowan-b1e7cb89-a4f7-4281-8e0a-3877fe8a3944.html

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 27, 2021 8:12 am

Cricket World Cup providing plenty of opportunity for grandstanding.

Ain’t sport grand?

Dot
Dot
October 27, 2021 8:13 am

as was a major concern when I worked at Pine Gap

*Draws cigarette*

I used to work at the Telstra exchange in Deakin…

*Exhaling intensifies*

Mater
October 27, 2021 8:13 am

Organised dissent.
Then Andrews walks back some of it.
Then Mitchell says well the revised powers seem more reasonable.
Then it gets easy passage.

That’s why hen bending metal, you over-bend it.
You know when it springs back a little, it’ll be more than happy to remain in your (new) desired position.
It seems humans are really simple creatures. Very little different to an inanimate lump of steel, in many ways. It’s proven by the meme that’s been doing the rounds in Victoria:

“Think you’re doing it hard? Be thankful you’re not in Kabul!”

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 27, 2021 8:14 am

Cricket World Cup

Just wait until Qatar 2022 played on the bodies of 10,000 migrant workers…at least.
#notmyworldcup

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 27, 2021 8:15 am

Evil shit.
From the WSJ.

Pfizer-BioNTech Covid-19 Vaccine for Young Kids Backed by FDA Advisers

The Pfizer Covid-19 vaccine was recommended for 5- to 11-year-olds by an FDA advisory panel. A decision by the agency could come within days.

Dot
Dot
October 27, 2021 8:17 am

The thing that gets me, with all the ANTI-Science that’s been used to force experimental concoctions into vulnerable, powerless people, is that The Catholic Church used to be the great educator of the world, not in the least in the field of medicine, yet now when we needed Her the most, She sat schtum, let the anti-Christs run amok and then joined in selling The Spirit of Fear for The Children of The Father of The Lie, The First Murderer.

WOW.

Not only are you anti semetic fake Jew, you’re a know nothing anti Catholic zealot fake Catholic too.

Just fuck off with your Jack Chick evangelical Nazi bullshit.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 27, 2021 8:17 am

Do people really think Bezos will allow Amazon to be taxed on income, not profit?

Corporate Minimum Tax Resurfaces as Democrats Hunt for Money

Senate Democrats detailed a 15% minimum tax on large companies’ income, refreshing an earlier revenue-raising proposal as they try to generate enough money to pay for President Biden’s social-spending and climate-change agenda
The plan, backed by Sens. Elizabeth Warren (D., Mass.), Angus King (I., Maine) and Ron Wyden (D., Ore.) would affect about 200 companies and could raise hundreds of billions of dollars, the sponsors said.

srr
srr
October 27, 2021 8:19 am

This –

If Neil Mitchell is against it, and Victorians are absolutely sick of it, don’t you think that might mean something at the polling booth.

Is the sort of bullshit that gives those who steal elections their claim to ‘have a mandate’, to screw everyone over, however they want.

Our ‘elections’ have long been as crooked as we’ve now seen them to be in the US.

The only difference is that here we have far fewer calling out the cheats they witness and far more coming out to ‘sort’ those who do.

Pre-selection Branch Stacking alone; doesn’t matter that we have them testifying now as to how crooked that is, The Global Left’s Army of Online Propagandists continue to lie about the whole crooked system that their bloody crooks control … then smear, mock & in other ways attack anyone who dares show just how UN-democratic our political systems are.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 27, 2021 8:19 am

Ha ha haha.

when I worked at Pine Gap

I used to work at the Telstra exchange in Deakin…

I used to know a bloke who delivered a package once to AFP HQ. As he was walking in, Twiggy Forrest walked out.

I’ve seen some things, man. Done some stuff.

Mater
October 27, 2021 8:19 am

Nobody really cares.

Of course not.
They did what they were told, and most others have (or will some be forced to) follow suit.

Everything that comes from the left is dusted with enough ‘compassion’ to make it palatable to the masses. Problem is, when you get past that dusting, it’s usually poisonous evil inside.

Most have swallowed, and that ‘compassion’ has eased the passage of the poison pill. The coating is about to dissolve.

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