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Still Life with Lemons, Oranges and a Rose, Zurbarán, 1633

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Fat Tony
Fat Tony
November 2, 2021 2:42 pm

Anyone know how they actually diagnose COVID – and not the PCR “test”.

struth
struth
November 2, 2021 2:46 pm

Anyone, jabbed or not, who thought the unjabbed would be freed at any time, anywhere, is now so gullible as to be a joke.

Delusional.

Of course Pairo’tits would not have been threatened….it just wouldn’t happen would it?
After all this is the 21st century!
The unelected …the swamp…..and their lackies, (pollies…. people put forward by the swamps as the ones we get to choose in a theatre which mocks democracy) are running the show.
And they don’t live in Australia.
Their servants do, for now.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
November 2, 2021 2:48 pm

I’ll give Biden a break when the public statements from ‘insiders’ apropos of his love for the Gorilla Channel outnumber Collingwood stories in the paper, and not before.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
November 2, 2021 2:51 pm

C.L.says:
November 2, 2021 at 1:46 pm
Suckers!

Australian government sings its lullaby to the people..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iaysTVcounI

Speedbox
November 2, 2021 2:56 pm

The Gratton Institute:

Sales of new petrol and diesel cars should be phased out in Australia by 2035 to help cut carbon emissions to net zero by 2050.

Governments should make zero-emissions vehicles cheaper and make it easier for drivers to charge their electric cars at home, at work, and on the road.

Zero-emissions vehicles should be exempt from stamp duty, import duty, and luxury car tax.

Scrapping stamp duty would cut the cost of new electric vehicles in Australia by up to 6.5 per cent.

The transport sector is responsible for nearly 20 per cent of Australia’s emissions, and more than 60 per cent of transport emissions are from light vehicles (including the two most popular cars in Australia, the Toyota HiLux and Ford Ranger). So the best way to cut transport emissions is to supercharge the switch to electric cars.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 2, 2021 2:57 pm

Zachary Rolfe: NT cop murder case hinges on ‘good faith’

Olivia Caisley
Reporter
@livcaisley
32 minutes ago November 2, 2021

Crown prosecutors have described a legal showdown over whether NT cop Zachary Rolfe can claim he acted in “good faith” in the alleged murder of an Indigenous man as a matter of national importance.

The full bench of the High Court is determining whether Constable Rolfe can use an immunity clause in the territory’s Police Administration Act that provides protection from prosecution at his upcoming murder trial.

Constable Rolfe stands accused of murdering 19-year-old Kumanjayi Walker, who was shot during an arrest attempt in the Central Australian community of Yuendumu in November 2019. He has pleaded not guilty.

Philip Strickland SC, acting for the crown, told the court on Tuesday the defence should be struck out because a police officer could be completely protected from criminal or civil liability even if they don’t act appropriately in the course of their duties.

“It would mean that any activity of a police officer would not be tethered to any notion of reasonableness…,” he said. “The significance of an incorrect ruling is that the respondent could be acquitted of murder on an incorrect basis.”

On the eve of the trial the prosecution sought special leave from the High Court to appeal a decision made by the NT Supreme Court’s full bench about whether Constable Rolfe could also claim immunity under the territory’s Police Administration Act.

That broad defence ­requires only that a jury be reasonably persuaded Constable Rolfe could have been acting in good faith when he shot Walker for them to find him not guilty.

Under NT law, if Constable Rolfe were to be acquitted using the ­immunity defence and the ruling was later found to be incorrect, he could not be retried.

Mr Strickland said a trial was of national importance whenever it involved a police officer using lethal force against a citizen.

“That is a matter of public importance and the public importance is more poignant when the citizen is indigenous…,” he said. “Having regard to the controversial history of the state‘s use of power against Indigenous Australians.”

Chief Justice Susan Kiefel on Tuesday said it was the full bench’s task to decide whether the jury would be asked to determine if the shooting had occurred in “good faith”.

Bret Walker SC, representing Constable Rolfe, argued leave should not be granted as it would further delay the criminal process.

“This is a very good … by which we mean egregious example of threatened fragmentation of the criminal process as a kind… that this court would (usually) tend strongly against.”

Mr Walker also argued that just because Constable Rolfe could be acquitted was not reason enough for special leave to be granted.

The trial was originally scheduled to begin in July 2021 but has been delayed on multiple occasions due to the Covid-19 pandemic and also the High Court battle to determine which legal defences Constable Rolfe can use.

The trial is expected to take place next year.

Fat Tony
Fat Tony
November 2, 2021 2:57 pm

And they don’t live in Australia.
Their servants do, for now.

And when they’ve done what they were paid to do, they will have their “if Stalin only knew” moment.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 2, 2021 3:01 pm

Stabby student at Willetton (state) High School, Perth.
On the run.

Stabby student in custody.

Old bloke
Old bloke
November 2, 2021 3:04 pm

twostix says:
November 2, 2021 at 1:00 pm

Going to raise the alarm on the incoming QLD CHO suddenly quitting. I bet they were they telling him he was going to be expected to do what was necessary to people in ‘the regions’ to force up those numbers.

I suspect that the new Queensland Chief Health Officer was told that she/he was to be the delegated person to sign the “relocate and detain” orders for the unvaccinated. Possibly thinking of future trials for crimes against humanity, that person decided he/she didn’t really want the job.

Tom
Tom
November 2, 2021 3:14 pm

Best horse in Australia doesn’t suddenly become a duffer. You beauty! My sinbinned girlfriend Jamie Kah has a challenger for best jockey in the country– Katie Mallyon’s boyfriend J-Mac (James McDonald).

Hope Cats won a few bob on Verry Elleegant.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 2, 2021 3:14 pm

Governments should make zero-emissions vehicles cheaper and make it easier for drivers to charge their electric cars at home, at work, and on the road.

Fun thing is a 6.5% reduction in cost of them would still make them twice as expensive as an equivalent conventional car. Then there’s the electricity, which when Liddell closes is sort of like not going to actually be there…

Another electricity retailer went bust yesterday in the UK, because the UK fixes the retail electricity price whilst the generators are paying 2.5 times the gas price they were paying in January. Always happens when you have socialist economics.

And amazingly amazing Russia has shut down another gas supply pipeline just in time for the Climapalooza. Weird innit?

Europe On Edge After Russia Unexpectedly Halts Gas Shipments Via Key Pipeline (31 Oct)

Yep, when you put all your eggs in one basket don’t be surprised if a fox comes along and eats them.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 2, 2021 3:15 pm

Oops, forgot to blockquote first para. Grr.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
November 2, 2021 3:19 pm

Hope Cats won a few bob on Verry Elleegant.

Yep- Random sweepstake picks gave this Anger a double up on the money he put in.

Keep an eye out for any reports of the tragic death of a WA rail worker in a terrible shunting accident- Rexie’s just blown the last of his yearly allocation of luck… 😛

JC
JC
November 2, 2021 3:19 pm

Rex Anger says:
November 2, 2021 at 2:02 pm

@ JC-

With tears in my eyes, I must regrettably inform you that WA Scampi are fed and raised on WA Death Gluten… ?

Oh!

calli
calli
November 2, 2021 3:22 pm

Lol! I was in the garden pulling out weeds!

Now’s my chance to tease Tom…

Was there some sort of sporting event on just now? *batts eyelashes*

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
November 2, 2021 3:34 pm

Rex Anger says:
November 2, 2021 at 2:02 pm

@ JC-

With tears in my eyes, I must regrettably inform you that WA Scampi are fed and raised on WA Death Gluten… ?

Oh!

Got the shits (or lack of) yet? 🙂

Speedbox
November 2, 2021 3:34 pm

Fun thing is a 6.5% reduction in cost of them would still make them twice as expensive as an equivalent conventional car. Then there’s the electricity, which when Liddell closes is sort of like not going to actually be there…

BoN – yes, perhaps hydrogen is the answer to all our problems?! (haha, just messin’ with ya).

Although the report by Gratton is 2-3 months old, it is the same old stuff. Probably being regurgitated due to the goings-on in Glasgow.

In any case the electrickery (however generated) to power the cars is a big problem but I have my doubts that Scotty is too focussed on that at the moment with only 6 months to an election. He is already in deep trouble with the electorate and to tell the punters that new ICE cars will be outlawed in, say, 15 years is a problem he would rather leave for another day. Or to another government (whichever comes first).

Having said that, if any government is actually serious about net zero by 2050, then the majority of passenger cars cannot be powered by petrol or diesel at that time.

The Greens and all the others who are pushing this agenda should be careful what they wish for.

As for your comment about Russian gas supplies, I prefer to agree with the Russian news media report that suggested the flow reversal was a short-term problem caused by balmy weather in Germany over the weekend. (haha, jeez I’m funny today.)

Tom
Tom
November 2, 2021 3:37 pm

I’ve been out of form, Calli. I got lucky today tipping a winner. Luck comes and goes. I’m enjoying the sunshine before it disappears again.

Punting is fun. You’d never know it from the nanny state tut-tutting here in Talidanistan, where every punting advertisement must carry a government proclamation that adults are actually irresponsible children: please gamble responsibly.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
November 2, 2021 3:44 pm

Tom says:
November 2, 2021 at 3:14 pm
Best horse in Australia doesn’t suddenly become a duffer. You beauty! My sinbinned girlfriend Jamie Kah has a challenger for best jockey in the country– Katie Mallyon’s boyfriend J-Mac (James McDonald).

Yep.
J-Mac wouldn’t get much of a word in with Katie. She’s been up in the bush riding and is always full of chat and fun.

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
November 2, 2021 3:45 pm

you know who to blame

Can all those fizzer shots be repurposed to youthanaize anybody who doesn’t take their shots?

Indolent
Indolent
November 2, 2021 3:48 pm

I doubt Prince Charles will be crowned Charles III.

I don’t care what he’s called. It’s still the same pile of shit.

Dot
Dot
November 2, 2021 3:48 pm

Hmmmm

Do they really not like each other or is this just “feeding da chooks”?

Old article from mid 2021.

https://www.afr.com/policy/health-and-education/nsw-treasurer-suggested-top-doctor-take-pay-cut-for-needless-lockdowns-20210714-p589hg

cohenite
November 2, 2021 3:51 pm

Ainsley Kellow has a good article on what fucking useless things renewables are at the Spec which I will post later for those too cheap to subscribe. Kellow also takes about the stupid comparison method LCOE. Naturally I have put up another fantastic comment:

Great article by Professor Kellow. LCOE is a joke. Comparing total cost of all energy production against the total energy produced between renewables, wind and solar, and 24/7 energy producers like coal and nuclear is a farce. It is a farce because W&S only produce electricity for less then 30% of the time, averaged over a year which is called capacity factor. As well as that you can NEVER predict when W&S will produce due to weather unreliability. Over that year W&S may produce all of that 30% in a few months with a wind and solar drought for the rest of the year. Just like happened in England recently.

But the real failure of a LCOE comparison is that W&S need several things which fossils and nuclear do not. W&S require vast amounts of infrastructure to grid due to their location in remote areas. They also need large scale inverters called condensors to change the power they produce from DC to AC. They also require for grid compatibility smoothing infrastructure to eliminate the surge nature of the electricity they produce. Australia’s grids runs at 50 hertz, which is what the fossils deliver. W&S are all over the frequency range.

W&S also receive $billions in direct subsidies without which they could not exist (fossils do not). Subsidies are not included in LCOE calculations. W&S also require extensive backup, not from batteries which are not up to the task, but from fossils which have to take over when W&S are not producing, which is more then 70% of the time. Compounding this is the fact W&S get preferential treatment so when they are producing they get priority into the grid. As well the fossils have to purchase large scale energy certificates from W&S giving further subsidy to them. So, as well as producing continually while not being able to sell when W&S are producing, fossils have to pay for them.

You cannot do a LCOE comparison which does not include these factors. So, when Albanese says W&S are cheaper then fossils he is either lying or is ignorant. In either case you don’t want him running your energy system.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
November 2, 2021 3:53 pm

So why is it that the mRNA vaccines lose their potency so much.

Obviously the reasons were not anticipated.

And it must do something initially that its effect can fade. Is it because the body’s response is only to cells with the mRNA inserted and when they are gone it…forgets?

If we talk about the vaccines losing efficacy then they must possess at least some to start with. So what it disappearing?

Dot
Dot
November 2, 2021 3:55 pm

Stuart Ayres says we need a third jab, the first ones we had on Australia were back when, April this year?

Anyone notice he’s a fat tub of lard?

Stewie baby! You’d do yourself a lemon flavour and have less risk of dying of COVID if you weren’t a fat fucker.

calli
calli
November 2, 2021 3:59 pm

Stuart is Marise Payne’s man. They both feed at the same trough.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
November 2, 2021 4:03 pm

If we talk about the vaccines losing efficacy then they must possess at least some to start with. So what it disappearing?

Your immune system, it’s fried.

dopey
dopey
November 2, 2021 4:04 pm

It was a very good Cup this year with the place-getters clearly superior. All carried 57 kg.

Dot
Dot
November 2, 2021 4:10 pm

This could just be the government trying to look clever. 95% double vaxxed could happen before the end of the month.

They have about an extra week to play with.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
November 2, 2021 4:14 pm

Poor JC, his pinup girl has the same problems as Resident Poopy pants
Brainworms.

Though it is possible shes just fibbing a bit.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2021/nov/01/us-firms-multinationals-tax-rate-janet-yellen

Yellen on Monday said Ireland will remain one of the best places in the world for multinational companies to invest in, even after Dublin gave up its prized 12.5% rate.

She said while some viewed Ireland as a tax haven, “perception often lags behind reality” and that Ireland was “already winning this new race to the top, with its robust business environment”.

Yellen said: “Here is my honest assessment of what it will not do: it won’t change this country’s status as one of the best places to do business in the world.”


Speaking in Ireland, where 800 US companies are based, Yellen said the new global tax rate agreed by 136 OECD countries halted the “race to the bottom” where multinationals scoured the world for the lowest corporation tax rate, failing to pay their dues to the populations that helped them make billions every year in profits.

Joe Biden’s $1.75tn Build Back Better plan “is spread over a decade and paid for through raising revenues, not taxing working families … but in part thanks to this [OECD] tax deal by asking companies to pay more, by corporations that are very profitable and can afford to contribute revenues”.
She said the US “needed to invest in people”, particularly in education, infrastructure and broadband, telling an event in Dublin that America’s roads and bridges are falling down, and that the lack of broadband access had also hit many families hard during the pandemic.

Some were forced to “drive to a parking lot outside McDonald’s for their kids to be able to do their homework and have access to the internet,” she said.

She said: “I am proud of the new international tax deal, because it not only provides benefits for everyday families, it will also stabilize the century-old international tax system.”

Scene, 1970’s Miami, girl in sexy schoolgirl uniform is lounging by the pool… Wukka wukka music starts up as a shadow falls over her an the camera pans up to show Ron Jeremy standing over her.
He looks at her body up and down and says..
Im going to stabilize the century-old international tax system out of you till you cant shit straight for a week“…
/Wukka wukka intensifies

dopey
dopey
November 2, 2021 4:16 pm

Northern Dancer is there four times in the pedigree.

HD
HD
November 2, 2021 4:16 pm

Mother Lode says:
November 2, 2021 at 3:53 pm

So why is it that the mRNA vaccines lose their potency so much.

Because they are not vaccines. They are gene therapy. The idea of gene therapy is for metabolic diseases.

Obviously the reasons were not anticipated.

Yes they were. The idea was always to require ongoing “booster” shots. That’s half the reason the business plan seemed so lucrative. The other half is earnings for the products to treat those with permanent injury from “adverse” reactions.

And it must do something initially that its effect can fade. Is it because the body’s response is only to cells with the mRNA inserted and when they are gone it…forgets?

In nature, immune systems in mammals develop immunity to specific parts of specific organisms. Thing is, it tends to help to have the whole organism present. There’s a hell of a lot of intracellular signalling that goes on in the weeks that constitute development of a specific immune response and the formation of memory cell lines.

The franken-protein coded for in the mRNA jabs is not identical to the spike of the virus ( having being modified with the [failed] goal of remaining lodged in the cell membrane of GM cells). I am unaware of any pathogen that gets in to the body and spreads forty billion sets of genetic material and no organism to all tissues of the body – just like that. Why the hell would the body develop a normal immune response and memory to something so damned abnormal?

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 2, 2021 4:17 pm

With tears in my eyes, I must regrettably inform you that WA Scampi are fed and raised on WA Death Gluten… ?

There’s a certain sadistic satisfaction here…

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
November 2, 2021 4:19 pm

‘Orwell Is Looking Down From Heaven And Smiling’: Ted Cruz Exposes Biden Admin Middle East Policy

I like Ted Cruz but I think on this he is wrong.

Orwell would be looking down and weeping. He saw that this coming and tried to warn us.

Tom
Tom
November 2, 2021 4:33 pm

Two-time AFL premiership coach Denis Pagan has had his fun proving he can take success in one sporting code to another unrelated code: he trained the winner of the 2020 Victoria Derby Johnny Get Angry with rookie Lachie King obeying the coach’s instructions.

Johnny Get Angry with King aboard came second-last in today’s Melbourne Cup.

Like the rest of us, Pagan is still just a dreamer about winning the race that stops a nation. Immortality make take some time.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
November 2, 2021 4:34 pm

Because they are not vaccines. They are gene therapy.

I don’t think they are. They are not genes, they do not interact with genes. mRNA is part of the process whereby DNA instructs the cell to produce proteins but the vaccines do not interact with your genes. They co-opt an existing process without changing the original mechanism.

If I was sitting beside a conveyor belt from a machine that produced chocolates and started adding brussel sprouts to the confectionary procession kids at tuckshops all over the country would vomit but the chocolate machine would not be in any way affected.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
November 2, 2021 4:37 pm

Dotsays:

November 2, 2021 at 4:10 pm

This could just be the government trying to look clever. 95% double vaxxed could happen before the end of the month.

How do you figure that?
Is the gap between #1 and #2 jab three weeks?
Because they were at 93.6% dose #1 as at 31st October.
Say they got to 95% by today.
That gives them three weeks to get those from the last few days over the line.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
November 2, 2021 4:39 pm

Like the rest of us, Pagan is still just a dreamer about winning the race that stops a nation. Immortality make take some time.

He is still a damn good sporting trivia question in the future.

JC
JC
November 2, 2021 4:41 pm

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha says:
November 2, 2021 at 4:17 pm

With tears in my eyes, I must regrettably inform you that WA Scampi are fed and raised on WA Death Gluten… ?

There’s a certain sadistic satisfaction here…

Always from the rear. No wonder she took off down the street. No wonder.

Cassie of Sydney
November 2, 2021 4:44 pm

Groundhog Guy has been given a second chance as leader but he won’t allow others to have the same second chance…..

“”Victorian Liberal leader Matthew Guy advises Tim Smith not to contest next election

Victorian Opposition Leader Matthew Guy has told drink-driving MP Tim Smith that he does not want him to contest the next election and will never allow him to return to the front bench of a party he leads.

Mr Smith — a close friend and partyroom ally of Mr Guy — recorded a blood alcohol reading of 0.131 per cent after colliding with another car and ramming into the side of a house in Hawthorn, in Melbourne’s east, shortly before 9pm on Saturday.

“Yesterday when I did a news conference I told you in 24 hours I’d have a chat to Tim Smith,” Mr Guy said on Tuesday.

“I left that news conference, went home, got changed and went and had a long period of time, discussions, with the Member for Kew, with Tim Smith,” Mr Guy said, indicating he had travelled to the Mornington Peninsula where Mr Smith was laying low at his family’s Blairgowrie property.

“I made it very clear to Tim that he would not find his way onto the front bench of any parliamentary Liberal Party that I lead, and I made it clear that I didn’t want him to nominate at the next election, and that I didn‘t believe he should nominate for the seat of Kew.

“Tim has and will reflect on my advice to him. He will then make a statement in his own time, I hope sooner rather than later, and that will be his response to my advice.”

The move gives Mr Smith little option but to leave parliament at the next election, given his nomination would likely be opposed by the Liberal Party’s administrative committee even if he had sufficient support to nominate from local branch members in Kew.”

Clearly Mr Guy doesn’t believe in rehabilitation.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
November 2, 2021 4:46 pm

This might be worth a watch.

Grimy, echt and gripping: Netflix’s The Forgotten Battle reviewed
All the combat stuff is spectacular and Paula van der Oest’s screenplay never follows the rules

The Forgotten Battle is a Dutch feature film commemorating the desperate and relatively little-known Allied assault on the Scheldt estuary in October and November 1944. When I went to the battlefield decades later with veterans of 47 RM Commando, they told me it was worse than D-Day because the Germans knew they were coming and had prepared stronger defences. Nearly 13,000 Allied soldiers were killed or wounded (about the same as the German casualties), half of them Canadians.

It has been a long time since I watched a half-decent second world war movie, mostly because they hardly bother making them any more. In the past decade, I can think only of Fury, a silly, implausible movie which suggested that a geriatric Sherman crew led by Brad Pitt was more than a match for an SS Panzer Division; Dunkirk, which was very Christopher Nolan-y, but not a patch on the 1958 version with Johnny Mills and Dickie Attenborough; and Hacksaw Ridge, which I liked much better because it really did capture the horror of the Pacific war, though I’m still not persuaded that it is possible to charge an enemy position while holding the tattered remains of a Japanese corpse in front of you as a shield.

When the opening credits of The Forgotten Battle roll you think it’s going to be rubbish because various countries appear to have used it as a tax-avoidance scheme. But no, you’re straight in there and it’s grimy and echt: it’s September 1944 and the Germans are finally retreating from occupied Holland, burning papers and clogging roads, and the Dutch can barely dis-guise their glee.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
November 2, 2021 4:50 pm

I have occasionally looked up facebook links on Gulag (some places do not have websites so the best info you can get…) and seen links to people ‘I might like’.

Quite a few have a sort of ribbon around their photo (a vaccine halo?) reading “I’ve been vaccinated”. (I wonder if they have to take that down after 6 months?)

But my favourite will have to be “I distrust authority and I am vaccinated!” I can pretty much guess their views because they look like the people who make a point of telling everyone. Progressive zealots.

I get the impression they believe they are making a cogent point. My reflexive response is to ask “Why? What happened to your distrust of authority?” They are ‘politically aware’ people, perhaps attached to the humanities, and rarely with any training in science. They aren’t consulting studies, or asking friends who are more informed – they don’t have any of them.

But that is overthinking it. I think just as they are not as smart as they say, they are also not as courageous as they say. Their fear simply got the better of them.

And I do not think they distrust authority. They distrust those in authority that they have been taught to think of as racists, misogynists, homophobes, TERFs, and all the other ooga-booga words they have learned. In a Green council or a progressive government department they would cleave devotedly to any person or panel they thought was advancing their politics.

Dot
Dot
November 2, 2021 4:51 pm

Pretty much, Sancho.

JC
JC
November 2, 2021 4:52 pm

thefrollickingmole says:
November 2, 2021 at 4:14 pm

Poor JC, his pinup girl has the same problems as Resident Poopy pants
Brainworms.

Mole, Grandma Yellen ran a decent Fed and gradually untied Fed policy from the traditional way it had been run since WW2.

We could make a good argument that the Fed has been an impediment to US economic growth, having instigated the Great Depression and EVERY single recession since WW2 , including the GFC. She began the very, very initial stages of having monetary policy track nominal income. Powell has moved policy even further in that direction. All good.

I can’t help Grandma’s a terrible Treasury Secretary, but she was a great Fed Grandma.

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
November 2, 2021 4:54 pm

So why is it that the mRNA vaccines lose their potency so much.

Could it be they’re not vaccines?

JC
JC
November 2, 2021 4:57 pm

Oh and Ronery…. Rones, pretending you’re a tough guy in the evening at 11.00 pm or so, after drinking half a bottle of scotch helping to screw up your courage and post the same old shit about me for the past 7 odd years (and contacting the Driller the help you get out of a jam)… that doesn’t count, you indefensible cuckold. You sad example of humanity.

Dot
Dot
November 2, 2021 4:58 pm

Professor Emma McBryde, an infectious diseases physician and mathematician who has modelled reopening strategies, said the difference between easing restrictions for the unvaccinated at 95 per cent double-dose coverage or in a month’s time at more than 90 per cent was “pretty marginal”.

Okay, let’s open up now then!

“If your threshold is herd immunity we’re not there and we’re not going to be there at 95 per cent,”

Huh? Then the vaccines must have an efficacy of less than 84.21% – Pfeizer claims 97%…

she said, noting the targets did not include children aged 15 and under

So right, we’re not safe until the kids are all vaccinated?

Let’s see the bullshit model you have made up.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
November 2, 2021 4:59 pm

Global minimum tax rate JC…

Would you care to make a prediction on the chances of it drifting higher as the squandermonkies take roost in the principle?

Its like she was the greatest plastic surgeon in the world, but finished her ops by damping a bucket of hydrochloric acid over the face of whomever she was working on.
Its the camels nose under the tent, like the (haha) temporary tax regime brought in to pay for WW2..

Tom
Tom
November 2, 2021 5:00 pm

Clearly Mr Guy doesn’t believe in rehabilitation.

No, no. What Mathew Guy believes in more than anything else is losing elections. Tim Smith is a fighter. The Stupid Fucking Liberals can’t have that.

Tim Smith is a threat to the Liberal party strategy of losing the 2022 state election because it believes in nothing.

rickw
rickw
November 2, 2021 5:00 pm

Have they drugged the man? We are truly now in an Orwellian society!

Parrot Rot isn’t running NSW. So who is?

JC
JC
November 2, 2021 5:00 pm
rickw
rickw
November 2, 2021 5:02 pm

Could it be they’re not vaccines?

Bingo!

HD
HD
November 2, 2021 5:03 pm

I don’t think they are. They are not genes, they do not interact with genes. mRNA is part of the process whereby DNA instructs the cell to produce proteins but the vaccines do not interact with your genes.

The definition you are thinking of includes AZ. You have the general idea, though it makes no difference to the terminology whether the genetic material introduced is DNA into (usually) the genome or RNA the transcript of DNA, direct for translation into protein. The systems by which DNA exerts a effects on the environment is being utilised.

Aside-actually, there are feedback ( and feed-forward) from/to the DNA, pathways/ systems associated with protein translation. These systems are part of the signalling that goes on that integrated with other inputs activate “i may have a bug” type cell signals to adjacent cells with expression of specific cell surface markers.

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I don’t know if the chocolate making machine would run that well if you kept doing that.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
November 2, 2021 5:04 pm

JC.. some corker comments under that clip..

Yagami Raito
5 years ago
It gets exponentially depressing after 5 replays as you start to see yourself and your existence in that sad old woman’s state of fear and misery.

JC
JC
November 2, 2021 5:05 pm

Global minimum tax rate JC…

Just sad, isn’t it?

Would you care to make a prediction on the chances of it drifting higher as the squandermonkies take roost in the principle?

Mole perhaps, but also let me add that over the past 30 years or so corporate taxes around the world have actually been going down.

Its like she was the greatest plastic surgeon in the world, but finished her ops by damping a bucket of hydrochloric acid over the face of whomever she was working on.

Nice analogy. I’ll go for that. 🙂

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
November 2, 2021 5:07 pm

Gather round people, find out where you can get the one and only Dr. Ramblers magical mRNA elixir.
Cures warts, herpes, flaccid dicks, poverty, body odour, dandruff and scaly skin***.

* We warrant that the elixir will behave according to specifications.
** Specifications subject to change without notice.

Not as sleazy as big pharma.

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
November 2, 2021 5:07 pm

Hope Cats won a few bob on Verry Elleegant.

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I won $280.00 in the $20.00 office sweep of a dear neighbour on Verry Elleegant. The Sunbather won $200.00 in the same neighbour’s $50.00 office sweep he had Incentivise – shortest odds since Phar Lap he told me – meh?. My beloved is down at the Club to celebrate, I am the leper at home with the dog – what a relief.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
November 2, 2021 5:08 pm

You are in la la land. Only the Brits get to decide through Parliament.

Hah. I was born in Britain, of ancient Briton ancestry, have an NHS card, have lived for periods of my life in Britain, and have a British passport. I will make my voice heard in Britain if I must.

Anyway, Australia has a say about whom they want as Head of State. A monarch who isn’t Charlie would be my pick. I’ve long suggested the Tassie Queen Mary would do us well, with Danish King Frederick and his son Christian. The Danes have as much right to the British monarchy as the Hanoverians.

Rabz
November 2, 2021 5:09 pm

From the Oz:

Perrottet says blacks/Jews/witches/Irish now have to wait longer before they can enjoy going out and mixing with others.

Oh wait, those weren’t who he was referring to.

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
November 2, 2021 5:12 pm

Is there a difference between herd immunity and flock immunity and mob immunity?
And then there is the thing about crows .

Fair Shake
Fair Shake
November 2, 2021 5:16 pm

Whatever happened to the herd immunity thing ? Did that go the way of flattening the curve and zero infections? Was the herd immunity shot by rubber bullets when it went free range? Was anyone able to capture a herd immunity and Mount it? Not in that way! Is it now on the endangered specifies list or dare I say it extinct? Or did it simply get modernised as i-herd?

Dot
Dot
November 2, 2021 5:17 pm

Anyway, Australia has a say about whom they want as Head of State. A monarch who isn’t Charlie would be my pick. I’ve long suggested the Tassie Queen Mary would do us well, with Danish King Frederick and his son Christian. The Danes have as much right to the British monarchy as the Hanoverians.

Jesus Christ woman, just stop!

I don’t need a monarchy. I don’t need an idiot President like Biden either. One you can vote out.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
November 2, 2021 5:18 pm

I’ve just returned from the annual Melbourne Cup Girl’s Festival of Hats, Flowers and Horseflesh.

We ate and drank well, all old friends. I will never buy another Audi again, I’m muttering as running late I’m wrestling with the dreadful GPS they have and it refuses to take the address. So I bound up to Avalon anyway, only to find via my telephone call in to say I’m lost that I have the wrong beaches suburb. Still hate that GPS regardless. Didn’t win in the cup but a wonderful post-lockdown reunion with many girlfriends and a delight to share some lockdown tales. Loved the one about one woman’s husband who is a builder and needed an unjabbed apprentice in the units he was building but scared of the Karens. Put him in a wheelie bin and took him up in the lift, admonished the lad to stay inside till knock off time at 3pm when he could be wheeled out again. Apocryphal? She says not.

No-one gave a stuff at the Cup party about vaxx status. Not asking, said the hostess when someone enquired.

feelthebern
feelthebern
November 2, 2021 5:20 pm

I don’t think people realise the enormity of what happened with the RBA today.
It wasn’t rates being on hold or the change with the first expected interest rate hike being brought forward.
It was the fact that they were taken on with regards to their yield curve control policy & the RBA folded.
Just like that.
With unlimited hitting power.

feelthebern
feelthebern
November 2, 2021 5:22 pm

Of all the central banks on the planet, Australia’s RBA was singled out, targeted & beaten.
All within a matter of weeks.

Rabz
November 2, 2021 5:23 pm

This might be worth a watch. “The Forgotten Battle”.

Mole, I watched it recently and it’s quite good. Three and a half stars.

calli
calli
November 2, 2021 5:26 pm

I’m not sure of the significance of the RBA story, Bern. But about two months ago I made an observation that Australia has been singled out for “special treatment”. Much the same way as the playground bully homes in on the weak kid’s LCM bar and other lunchbox goodies.

And all the other kids in the playground step back.

The Macron/Biden/Morrison contretemps has been instructive too.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
November 2, 2021 5:27 pm

Just to clarify, it’s an annual event, but at different people’s places year by year. So you don’t always know where you will be going, especially if people have moved.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
November 2, 2021 5:29 pm

I am the leper at home with the dog

Tell us more about the dog Tinta.

JC
JC
November 2, 2021 5:30 pm

Bern, can you explain the thinking behind that?

feelthebern
feelthebern
November 2, 2021 5:30 pm

When the Swiss carry trade ended, it blew up several players but the billions in losses were seemingly absorbed over the following month.
In Oz, there were 10’s of billions on the short end of the curve staying at 0.1% for at least the next 18 months.
That’s a pinch compared to what happens in US & Japanese markets, but it’s enough to make a dint in Australia, depending on who got caught & how leveraged they were & how their risk models adjusted for the last few weeks in the face of stated RBA policy what was re-inforced in a speech as recently as two weeks ago.

calli
calli
November 2, 2021 5:30 pm

I wore my “fascinator” in the garden Lizzie.*

It’s a rather battered crochet broad brimmed hat I bought in the gift shoppe at Monticello.

It goes with my sympathy mullet. 😀

* forgot all about the gee gees

mc
mc
November 2, 2021 5:31 pm

Victorian Liberal leader Matthew Guy advises Tim Smith not to contest next election

When I heard the pompous Guy saying this on the radio this afternoon my first thought was “another reason not to vote for the SFLP in Vic.” Not because of Smith’s mistake but Guy’s eagerness to through him under the bus.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
November 2, 2021 5:37 pm

The best news for us today to add to the sunny optimism I feel is that the fledgies have returned, around the side this time in a huge old magnolia tree outside our main bathroom. They are being fed by both adults birds, with some little pork-mince balls from us as a side-dish. As I came in from partying today there was a commotion of crows above our place. A drone was flying above and three crows were trying to attack it, but getting scared off when they got close. I wonder what the drone was doing. Real estate gathering, I guess. I hope it permanently scares off the crows while the fledgies grow.

Wally Dali
Wally Dali
November 2, 2021 5:37 pm

Rabz, get a hold of yourself man! You can’t chop a star in half, nor can you sit on a fence made of a star…. picket.
? = unwatchable
?? = missable
??? = good but maybe not for everyone
???? = great but not essential
????? = unmissable.

Wally Dali
Wally Dali
November 2, 2021 5:38 pm

Dammit, them queries are, of course, meant to be stars

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
November 2, 2021 5:39 pm

Tell us more about the dog, Tinta

Oh I am so glad you asked GrayRanga — she’s a beautiful wheaton- coloured 2 year old Rhodesian Ridgeback – sees off the possums and plovers, is a wonderful companion and thinks she’s the daughter I never had.

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
November 2, 2021 5:39 pm

Anyway, Australia has a say about whom they want as Head of State. A monarch who isn’t Charlie would be my pick. I’ve long suggested the Tassie Queen Mary would do us well, with Danish King Frederick and his son Christian. The Danes have as much right to the British monarchy as the Hanoverians.

Look, how often does this need to be said?
Scottie Chisholm, ex-Docker and Demon, is part indigenous and reputedly an illegitimate descendant of Edward VIII.
Do the DNA test. If he’s genuinely both House of Windsor as well as indigenous, when the Queen passes on make Scottie and his lineal descendants the monarchs with exactly the same duties as the Queen has now.
The conservatives don’t even have to give up the Royal links and the “progressives” get an indigenous Head of State – why have a brawl about all the rest of the “republican” rubbish?

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
November 2, 2021 5:40 pm

I don’t know if the chocolate making machine would run that well if you kept doing that.

I was saying that I was along the conveyor belt where the complete output was going past. I was shoving nothing up the machine.

I realise that processes work in balance and changing one thing can upset another. But the extent of pushback is in question. For example, notionally mRNA vaccines cause the production of proteins consuming amino acids that would have been used for other proteins. But enough to matter?

The mechanism you mentioned does not fit in with what is generally accepted as gene therapy, I think. Any number of things that we do, eat, breath, stand near, might have a flow on effect to DNA. Are you aware of any changes to DNA due to the vaccines?

I am not trying to squabble. I have chosen not to get the mRNA vaccines precisely because I do not think they are fully understood, so I am not defending them either. Just trying to get to the heart of it all.

HD
HD
November 2, 2021 5:40 pm

Fair Shake says:
November 2, 2021 at 5:16 pm

Whatever happened to the herd immunity thing ?

Well, what’s been created, if those jab rates were inflated than they are, is probably the opposite. Herd susceptibility ( to infectious diseases other than specifically COVID-19) and herd dependency (on more boosters). Probably herd oncogenesis as time goes on. Give it a while and perhaps herd funeral.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
November 2, 2021 5:41 pm

Dotsays:

November 2, 2021 at 4:51 pm

Pretty much, Sancho.

Is that in response to my “three weeks between jabs” question?
Taking the emotion out of it, it is a strange statement.
“December 15th or 95%, whichever comes first.”
So if 95% is reached on 28th November, green light.
But if we are at 92% on 15th December, also green light.
Sounds totally sciency to me.
Either 95% is the number or it isn’t.

Boambee John
Boambee John
November 2, 2021 5:42 pm

Just sampled some Dom Perrotet ’96.

A rather bitter drop, unreliable, with different flavour on each sampling, even from the same bottle.

Recommended for cleaning silver and brass.

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
November 2, 2021 5:42 pm

Parrot Rot isn’t running NSW. So who is?

Sorry rickw I thought you knew — Ray Hadley is running the state — Dapto dog-callers are that multi-skilled

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
November 2, 2021 5:43 pm

LOL Queenlanders, fom a relative 30,000ft above Qld on whats app.

“Red roo needs a shake up. WTF, no bar service on an afternoon flight to NQ & over an hour to get cabin service. Already had a cancelled flight on shonky reasons. If I flew Jetstar or Virgin no probs for half the cost. Alan pull your head in or you will lose customers…”

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
November 2, 2021 5:45 pm

‘bern at 5:20.
There might be dim bulbs here who don’t get what you mean.
Could you please essplain.
For them.
Not me.
I totally get it.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
November 2, 2021 5:45 pm

It goes with my sympathy mullet. ?

It was interesting to see how many of the girls had managed to get their hair done and how many had not. I’m not sure that the tossed casual long locks are an indicator of vaxx status or just a restyling, though with one I know it was the vaxx issue. She’s waiting on a home visit from her hairdresser. My Persian Gents Cut went down well to complimentary approval; the style is as worn by the chess-playing prodigy in The Queen’s Gambit. Blunt blonde fringe, with side curtains half drawn over. Rather like some of the harpy girls in Succession, which we watched last night, Episode 2 in the latest series. One of the girls at the party said she couldn’t stand that show because of the language constantly used; I must be tremendously used to it culturally, for I hardly noticed. 🙂

Bons
November 2, 2021 5:47 pm

I wasn’t taking a crack at the French navy. They are very good operators with excellent vessels and weapons.
My target was the RAN LGWERT cocks in frocks, service in subs is bad for my complexion, tit enhancement and cock lopping Navy.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
November 2, 2021 5:50 pm

Another girl at the party had just flown in from Melbourne. She said the Captain announced that the plane would now continue on to Los Angeles, and those passengers remaining on board whooped and hollered in glee at the prospect.

Diogenes
Diogenes
November 2, 2021 5:51 pm

The Danes have as much right to the British monarchy as the Hanoverians.

The House of Hohenzollern actually are closer than the Danes.

Wrap your mind around this counterfactual… Had the current succession laws been in place at the end of Victoria’s reign, which given Eddie7 behaviour could have triggered the change, her eldest daughter would have been Queen after Victoria. When she died her son would then have been king and the 2 Empires would have been in a personal union like the Stuarts held Scotland and England . I wonder if WilhelmII would have taken the regnal name William V.

feelthebern
feelthebern
November 2, 2021 5:52 pm

Maybe it will be a big nothing burger.
But if the RBA is going to give up on one policy so quickly because they’re being taken on, how much can you put in other policies?

Indolent
Indolent
November 2, 2021 5:52 pm

Also Chant has real tangible power under the emergency powers, he can’t tell her what to do without taking NSW out of the state of emergency.

So? Look at our numbers. What emergency?

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
November 2, 2021 5:53 pm

I will never get a PCR test.

I am supposed to see a specialist orthopaedic surgeon soon but I have to have a COVID test — so I think I will cancel the appointment — I am excercising more and my physical problems are ameliorating – so no COVID test for me thanks.

feelthebern
feelthebern
November 2, 2021 5:55 pm

Panzer, I’ll put together something later in layman speak.

calli
calli
November 2, 2021 5:55 pm

Blunt blonde fringe, with side curtains half drawn over.

Agatha Raisin? Cool.

Wear a beret next time. And a secretive, Mata Hari look.

Rabz
November 2, 2021 5:56 pm

What emergency?

An emergency of hysterical incompetent fascist imbeciles.

P
P
November 2, 2021 5:58 pm

I have an appointment with a neurologist next week which I will cancel and make another for 6mths time. My BPPV is subsiding and I am at present managing OK. I don’t know what the situation will be in 6mths time.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
November 2, 2021 5:58 pm
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
November 2, 2021 6:00 pm

King Frederick and Queen Mary would be about the right distance away from Oz not to matter, which is why they’re my choice. Also, someone else pays for their upkeep. They could stay at Govt House in Tassie for holidays while she visited her rellies. I’ve been there, it’s quite a nice little high Gothic Victorian pile.

calli
calli
November 2, 2021 6:01 pm

So if 95% is reached on 28th November, green light.
But if we are at 92% on 15th December, also green light.
Sounds totally sciency to me.
Either 95% is the number or it isn’t.

This has ZERO to do with numbers, big or little. Or with “da herd”.

This is about punishment, pure and simple.

Australia has regressed. The Rum Corps is punishing the unruly prisoners. They are to be an example.

Samuel Marsden would be hugging himself with glee, except we don’t have public floggings any more.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
November 2, 2021 6:02 pm

Tinta. Am very much over covid. Enough is enough, 2 governments embroiled in corruption, Fitzgerald silent despite being boisterous during Newmans reign. MSM reporting very little on Vic. When I move back to Qld I not bothering with electoral address. What’s the point, find me & try to fine me clowns…

Baba
Baba
November 2, 2021 6:07 pm

Newman tossed Tony Fitzgerald off the gravy train.

calli
calli
November 2, 2021 6:08 pm

I haven’t kept up with what’s happening north of the border.

Have Queenslanders (unvaxxed) been refused services yet? Are they still able to have a coffee, a restaurant meal or any of the normal stuff that Vics and NSWs have been refused?

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
November 2, 2021 6:09 pm

The “Marley and Me” dog lover friend was at the party today. She was so pleased to hear that I had watched the movie. I told her we were both entranced by the old-fashioned style of it, eschewing saying anything negative. We had a little hug about how she was still getting over the deaths of her last two dogs. Dogs are family, end of story.

Megan
Megan
November 2, 2021 6:09 pm

Clearly Mr Guy doesn’t believe in rehabilitation

Guy is a spiteful little man with delusions of intelligence. He is too far up his own glorious fundament to recognise that he will never have the opportunity to leave the equally hapless Smith off his front bench.

Smith, for all his sins, was one of the few of the Vic FULP who could have retained his seat in next year’s election.

Door Matt is a dead liberal walking.

HD
HD
November 2, 2021 6:10 pm

Mother Lodesays:
November 2, 2021 at 5:40 pm

I was saying that I was along the conveyor belt where the complete output was going past. I was shoving nothing up the machine.

Yeah, but you’d reckon the packaging/ shrink wrapping bit wouldn’t be real happy(?)

I realise that processes work in balance and changing one thing can upset another. But the extent of pushback is in question.

Well I’d think of it like a PC processor executing it’s normal range of code to run different operating functions. Out of nowhere come the instructions appear to start executing a whole lot of unknown code that wasn’t there a minute ago, that bears no relation to the normal operations of the PC. At very least it could cause overheating and normal functions/operations to fail/crash depending on this and that. Recall those uranium enrichment centrifuges in Iran the other year?

The definition of lot of things have been change and accepted without question of late. “Vaccine” being the prime example. If that Robert Malone fellow agrees with me, well, that’s good enough for me. My point simply is changing protein production at the ribosome with RNA = gene therapy.

Are you aware of any changes to DNA due to the vaccines?

That’s a pretty general question. There’s a lot of speculation depending on exactly how “changes to DNA ” could be interpreted.

I guess all anyone could say comparing to other success stories like thalidomide, organochlorines and benylates, we will know sooner or later.

Delta A
Delta A
November 2, 2021 6:12 pm

Tassie Queen Mary

Australia’s most successful barfly.

calli
calli
November 2, 2021 6:17 pm

If Mary Donaldson was a typical Aussie barfly, men from all around the world would be lining up!

Like the New Broom, Frederick just got lucky. And they knew what to do with their good luck. 😀

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 2, 2021 6:20 pm

This is about punishment, pure and simple.

Which is one reason why I embrace the cleansing feeling of responding with “get stuffed”.

Saw an article the other day where it said that this punitive rubbish was not working since all it did was make people dig their heels in. My heels are fairly subterranean right now.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
November 2, 2021 6:20 pm

Anyone got Vocpols or Asios number handy…

Think I’ve uncovered a nefarious terror cell in our midst… Covering coast to coast.

https://www.ctoc.com.au/property/chicken-delivery-business-central-coast-nsw/

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
November 2, 2021 6:25 pm

This is fine.
Its normal.
Anybody who thinks otherwise is a wrecker and traitor.

State hires sleuths to investigate anti-vax teachers

The NSW Department of Education is hiring 30 investigators to deal with thousands of teachers who have flouted new laws requiring them to be vaccinated to keep their jobs.

COVID-19 restrictions in schools will ease slightly from next week, with assemblies and presentations allowed outdoors, day excursions permitted, and music ensembles back for instruments that can be played with a mask.

Still, at least its not oppression, just a mandate.

(paywall prevents further reading.)

Dot
Dot
November 2, 2021 6:26 pm

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Bearesays:
November 2, 2021 at 6:00 pm
King Frederick and Queen Mary would be about the right distance away from Oz not to matter, which is why they’re my choice. Also, someone else pays for their upkeep. They could stay at Govt House in Tassie for holidays while she visited her rellies. I’ve been there, it’s quite a nice little high Gothic Victorian pile.

The right distance is from here to the Andromeda Galaxy.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 2, 2021 6:28 pm

Have Queenslanders (unvaxxed) been refused services yet?

Mordor, oops, Queensland was subject of an article yesterday. A fun read, but probably not if you have to live there.

Australia Is Now Threatening Citizens With Seizure Of Homes & Bank Accounts Over Covid Violations (1 Nov)

Multiple reports out of Australia over the past days have confirmed that state and territory governments are threatening to seize the homes and bank accounts of citizens over unpaid ‘COVID violation’ fines. This as much of the country’s population are now living under vaccine mandates linked to employment: take the jab or face termination, many Aussies are being told.

For example, a new report in Daily Mail has reviewed fresh government data compiled by the Queensland health authority. It found that “Queenslanders who received fines for breaking Covid-19 rules risk having their homes seized and bank accounts frozen in a government crackdown to collect $5.2 million in repayments.”

Writing on the potential punitive actions that the State Penalties Enforcement Register (SPER) is now threatening Australian citizens with, the Brisbane Times details:

SPER was undertaking “active enforcement” on another 18.4 per cent of fines, worth about $1 million, which a spokesman said “may include garnishing bank accounts or wages, registering charges over property, or suspending driver licenses”.

Wow, has Ponygirl really released her inner totalitarian or what?

JC
JC
November 2, 2021 6:34 pm

Bern

I don’t get the point you’re making…. but here’s what I think. I believe the RBA has to essentially ignore the supply side issues impacting the price level because to all intents and purposes the winter lockup has taken us back into recession. I also think that if you simply account for core CPI , nominal GDP is in the shitter. They have to continue with easy monetary policy fat longer than other economies (all things being equal). Supply chain issues are a change in relative prices. It is NOT inflationary and in fact higher prices as a result of the supply chain are disinflationary. This is the problem that wasn’t understood by the central banks at the outset of the GFC. I think it is now.
Why?

Almost all of the GFC was the result of the important central banks not understanding what the fuck was going on regarding commodity prices. The developing world was placing enormous pressure on commodity prices and we also had stupid shit occurring with a transfer from food to energy. The stupid American administration was burning corn pretending to make energy sustainable and this caused a hike in food prices. (Recall the corn burn).

I hope the RBA doesn’t fuck it up. The Aussie fell from the news.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Border Closure

Have Queenslanders (unvaxxed) been refused services yet? Are they still able to have a coffee, a restaurant meal or any of the normal stuff that Vics and NSWs have been refused?

Not that I know of.
I’ve been to the GP twice in the past coupla weeks;
2/. Most recent visit didn’t get asked at any stage if I was vaxxed.
1/. First visit (to a different GP) I presented with just about every symptom, got given a ‘covid checklist’ to complete before consultation, ticked “Yes” to all, (ie. sniffles, sore throat, fever, chills, the works)
Result: Meant nought, don’t even think the GPs read it, it was filed coz ‘requirement’.

Did get asked toward the end of the consultation if I’d been ‘jabbed’ – more coz GP was searching around for anything that may have caused my symptoms. She was somewhat deflated when I robbed her of the easy diagnosis by saying I had not been ‘jabbed’.

So nothing. Dunno even if there’s a way to know if people are vaxxed or not.
The Hotels Association has come on strong with posters about ‘getting vaxxed’ – but clearly they’ve been getting negative feedback from the membership, coz they’re very equivocal about the whole vaccination thing. (Though you can tell they’re just gagging to have it made mandatory, coz the staff at the QHA office is top heavy with uni-educated SJW types)

MatrixTransform
November 2, 2021 6:36 pm

I am just pointing out that the current economic systems are antithetical to recycling

entire industries exist around recycling, you mong

cohenite
November 2, 2021 6:41 pm

Supply chain issues are a change in relative prices. It is NOT inflationary and in fact higher prices as a result of the supply chain are disinflationary.

Nah. Trump knocked the price of energy to the cellar by making the US energy independent.

JC
JC
November 2, 2021 6:44 pm

Nah. Trump knocked the price of energy to the cellar by making the US energy independent.

Totally, but it’s not all I’m talking about. The world was locked up for a year. It had an impact. Hiden is a far better president anyway.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
November 2, 2021 6:44 pm

Is it just our supermarket or is the dairy section getting light on in product?
The Great Supply Chaining has begun!
No yogurt for you, unvaxxed scum!

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
November 2, 2021 6:45 pm

Chop frying time and the third stubby in hand.
Good times.

cohenite
November 2, 2021 6:47 pm

Hiden is a far better president anyway.

Don’t take the piss head prefect. Although I guess it depends on what things you mean by being better.

JC
JC
November 2, 2021 6:48 pm

Oh Fuck, Zero Hedge again.

Bruce, being fined for a violation is NOT a government making direct threats against property or bank accounts as Zero Cred is reporting. Such a threat is embedded in all government fines and financial sanctions.

Stop quoting Zero fucking Hedge. It’s porn site. You’d get more accurate news linking news from Porn Hub. FFS.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Border Closure

Covid is a handy excuse for everything:

Important Supply Chain Update from Lion

Hi Salvatore

I am writing to inform you directly about how Lion is responding to the ongoing supply chain challenges impacting many industries right across Australia.

A national shortage of hardwood pallets is being driven by a number of factors, including stockpiling of both raw materials and finished goods due to COVID-19, a worldwide timber shortage hindering manufacturing of new pallets; congested global supply chains and networks, with longer waiting times for shipments; and increased production in certain states due to COVID-19 outbreaks.

….+ blah blah blah x lotsa.

JC
JC
November 2, 2021 6:52 pm

cohenite says:
November 2, 2021 at 6:47 pm

Hiden is a far better president anyway.

Don’t take the piss head prefect. Although I guess it depends on what things you mean by being better.

🙂
I knew that would get a reaction. One thing you can say is that President Let’s Go Brandon would make a better president than the Veep. I don’t know how the Demons can fix this. Let’s Go Brandon can’t hold on much longer 6 months tops, so they will have to get Giggles to resign, but who then?

Megan
Megan
November 2, 2021 6:54 pm

Stop quoting Zero fucking Hedge. It’s porn site. You’d get more accurate news linking news from Porn Hub. FFS

So this isn’t a family blog? My mistake.

Diogenes
Diogenes
November 2, 2021 6:56 pm

SPER was undertaking “active enforcement” on another 18.4 per cent of fines, worth about $1 million, which a spokesman said “may include garnishing bank accounts or wages, registering charges over property, or suspending driver licenses”.

We came out of Hotel Quarantine on 8 August. I still haven’t got my bill. At the time 6 weeks , now they are quoting 12 weeks. FFS I can be be given a bill in a hotel after 1 night, and that will include everything I charged to the room up until 2 minutes before I check out. Qld Health can’t give me a bill when it is a fixed price deal and they had me in their clutches for 2 weeks !

JC
JC
November 2, 2021 6:56 pm

“Holy shit” takes on a whole new meaning….

Is that true Brandon shat himself at the Vat? What a dismal administration.

calli
calli
November 2, 2021 6:57 pm

Thank you, Sal.

I hope you guys don’t get your turn through the grinder.

cohenite
November 2, 2021 6:57 pm

So this isn’t a family blog? My mistake.

Depends on what family you’re talking about.

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
November 2, 2021 6:58 pm

Let’s Go Brandon can’t hold on much longer 6 months tops, so they will have to get Giggles to resign, but who then?

Is it possible that the fix has been in for Hillary all along?

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
November 2, 2021 7:00 pm

2021.
People who believe women have vadges and men have knobs are now science deniers.
https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/voices/stop-using-phony-science-to-justify-transphobia/

Have a look at this post scientific pap.
Nearly everyone in middle school biology learned that if you’ve got XX chromosomes, you’re a female; if you’ve got XY, you’re a male. This tired simplification is great for teaching the importance of chromosomes but betrays the true nature of biological sex. The popular belief that your sex arises only from your chromosomal makeup is wrong. The truth is, your biological sex isn’t carved in stone, but a living system with the potential for change.

Go and shit out a baby then bloke.
If ass birth were a “thing” we would have seen a few cases by now surely?

And borrowing someone elses eggs/uterus/sperm doesnt count.

I cant wait to see whats ‘anti-science” next year.

Top Ender
Top Ender
November 2, 2021 7:00 pm

Following up on Frollicking’s link above – dunno why the SMH let me in, as I don’t have a sub:

State hires sleuths to investigate anti-vax teachers

By Jordan Baker

The NSW Department of Education is hiring 30 investigators to deal with thousands of teachers who have flouted new laws requiring them to be vaccinated to keep their jobs.

COVID-19 restrictions in schools will ease slightly from next week, with assemblies and presentations allowed outdoors, day excursions permitted, and music ensembles back for instruments that can be played with a mask.

The department also revealed 960 suspensions were handed out in kindergarten last year and 424 in the first six months of this year, as negotiations continue over plans to ban suspensions of kindy kids for anything but serious physical violence.

About 4900 teachers in the public sector are yet to be fully vaccinated ahead of the deadline on Monday, when all school staff are required to have had both shots to be allowed onto school sites, a parliamentary committee heard on Tuesday.

Some have left it to the last minute, with 800 more vaccination confirmations arriving overnight.

Those who are not vaccinated by November 8 without a valid exception will be banned from school sites and will be investigated for non-compliance, which will take about two weeks. Disciplinary action then termination will follow.

The department has engaged a recruitment agency to hire 30 full-time investigators for four months, the committee heard. They will work alongside its existing internal investigation unit, which examines complaints against school staff.

“We are engaging with an external recruiter to provide a small surge capacity, pre-empting that we may … have a number of non-compliance episodes or incidents to investigate,” said Yvette Cachia, the department’s chief people officer.

“A lot of these times we can work things out and that teachers where possible will be able to go back to the classroom. There’s a number of reasons for non-compliance, and there are some small sharp investigations required.

Ms Cachia said the department runs a “very large” number of investigations each year on other issues, such as complaints against principals and teachers, and did not want those investigations to be interrupted.

From Monday, COVID-19 restrictions will also be eased slightly at schools, with assemblies and presentations allowed outdoors, day excursions and sport permitted, although music ensembles are only allowed for those wearing masks.

Community use of school sites can go ahead from November 8, while fully vaccinated volunteers will be allowed on site to help with the canteen or uniform shop.

Some of the 19,000 air purifiers ordered by the department to help with ventilation have arrived, and 2000 have been installed in schools. “We don’t have plans to purchase any more,” said the chief executive of School Infrastructure NSW, Anthony Manning.

Meanwhile, new figures show 960 suspensions were handed out to kindergarten kids last year, which was down from 1252 in 2018.

Of the 63,604 suspensions across the whole public school system, more than half had a disability and 29 per cent were Indigenous – a significant over-representation of both groups. Just 10 per cent came from a background other than English, an under-representation.

Education Minister Sarah Mitchell announced a new behaviour policy in August last year. It also included cutting the maximum school suspension for all students from 20 to 10 days, which upset many teachers who felt some situations required longer suspensions.

“Starting down a trajectory of suspension, very clearly there’s a lot of international evidence … about what that means for life outcomes and for a range of measures,” Ms Mitchell said. “Which is why we want to have this new strategy in place to support our students and staff.”

When upper house MP Courtney Houssos pointed out that the policy – announced more than a year ago but not yet finalised – was widely criticised by the NSW Teachers Federation and principals groups, Georgina Harrisson, the department’s secretary, said it had been working with the federation to reach agreement.

“We’re asking [teachers] to make a specific and difficult change, some of our teachers have used suspension,” she said. “But when it comes to it, we want to put the interests of our students first.”

4900 teachers absent – if say 3000 are high school they would have 5/6 classes each – that will be over 20,000 classes along with the primary teachers which will have to be catered for…

JC
JC
November 2, 2021 7:00 pm

Is it possible that the fix has been in for Hillary all along?

Dunno, I don’t think they can… can they? They’re totally brazen though. The dude who would frighten the shit out of the GOP would be Manchin and the blond gal for Veep. That’s just not happening though.

Ed Case
Ed Case
November 2, 2021 7:04 pm

The French subs saga has got a lot more to go, in my opinion.
Macron is clearly lying, so he’s got a problem.

calli
calli
November 2, 2021 7:04 pm

Meanwhile, new figures show 960 suspensions were handed out to kindergarten kids last year, which was down from 1252 in 2018.

Huh? What did they do? Cheat in plasticine class?

MatrixTransform
November 2, 2021 7:05 pm

when you put all your eggs in one basket don’t be surprised if a fox comes along

love a tortured aphorism

… don’t count yr chickens before they’re eggs

JC
JC
November 2, 2021 7:06 pm

Ed Case says:
November 2, 2021 at 7:04 pm

The French subs saga has got a lot more to go, in my opinion.
Macron is clearly lying, so he’s got a problem.

Who cares. No one gives a shit about what Macron thinks anyway.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
November 2, 2021 7:06 pm

and will be investigated for non-compliance, which will take about two weeks. Disciplinary action then termination will follow.

Worthy of comrade Stalin himself.

The punishment in place, only the pretense of a process to follow till its carried out.

Do any of these people know how morally perverted and vile they are?

Top Ender
Top Ender
November 2, 2021 7:06 pm

I like the boy!

Australia Day festival cancellations ‘treacherous’: fired up Sydney mayor

A fired up Sydney mayor says his council’s Australia Day celebrations will be “bigger and better” after a neighbouring council downsized theirs.

DAILY TELEGRAPH.COM.AU

Woke councils looking to “trash” Australia Day and blame Covid are “treacherous bed-wetters” and “un-Australian”, according to a fired-up Sydney mayor, who has ­announced he’s planning an even bigger and better celebration next year.

A growing number of local councils have begun pulling out of the national day in ­recent years, including the Inner West Council which has claimed European settlement brought “despair and widespread disadvantage” to Indigenous people.

Now the Hills Shire Council has just announced it won’t be hosting a big celebration on January 26 due to Covid-19.

But neighbouring Cumberland Council, which includes suburbs such as Merrylands and Granville, has hit out at the push to “destabilise” and shut down the national day of celebration.

And the Institute of Public Affairs think tank also says woke councils are “out of touch” with the majority of Australians.

“The decision by the Hills Shire Council to scale back Australia Day celebrations is un-Australian, lazy, and a perfect example of bed-wetting at its finest,” Cumberland Mayor Steve Christou said.

“Australia Day is the biggest national holiday of the year and something we all should be proud of as a nation.

“Instead, every November, December we seem to have the doomsayers like Inner West Council wanting to trash Australia Day altogether.

“I am fed up with this kind of treachery.”

He said Cumberland Council is now planning for a “bigger and better” festival.

IPA director of the foundations of Western civilisation program Dr Bella d’Abrera said there was no reason outdoor events cannot take place in a safe way and “this has nothing to do with Covid and everything to do with ideology”.

“Woke councils are completely out of touch with the majority of Australians who are proud to be Australian,” she said. “Councils like Hills Shire need to start listening to what its ratepayers really want.”

Ed Case
Ed Case
November 2, 2021 7:10 pm

Who cares. No one gives a shit about what Macron thinks anyway.

France is a major Industrial Nation, but a $90 Bil. contract isv still a big deal.
Various actors have been shilling in the Press for the Contract to be ripped up for a couple of years, so why didn’t France do better?

Cassie of Sydney
November 2, 2021 7:14 pm

““The decision by the Hills Shire Council to scale back Australia Day celebrations is un-Australian, lazy, and a perfect example of bed-wetting at its finest,” Cumberland Mayor Steve Christou said.”

Good on Christou….he’s spent months speaking up against lockdowns and for that he’s been smeared by the MSM.

sfw
sfw
November 2, 2021 7:15 pm

Tom, Tim Smith is a nothing person, he’s fully on board with masks, vaxxes and lockdowns (when it suits). He does talk a bit of good talk but there’s nothing underneath, just like the rest of the Libs.

Farmer Gez – Went to our local Foodworks, the only supermarket here and the dairy section is almost empty, either there’s a supply problem or people are hoarding dairy goods.

Cassie of Sydney
November 2, 2021 7:18 pm

“Guy is a spiteful little man with delusions of intelligence. He is too far up his own glorious fundament to recognise that he will never have the opportunity to leave the equally hapless Smith off his front bench.

Smith, for all his sins, was one of the few of the Vic FULP who could have retained his seat in next year’s election.

Door Matt is a dead liberal walking.”

Indeed.

Smith should just say NO to Groundhog Guy. It says a lot about Guy’s character that whilst he’s been given a second chance, he’s denies a second chance to one of his colleagues…a colleague who no doubt helped to install Groundhog Guy again as leader.

When I see Groundhog Guy interviewed, all I see is a mean thin-lipped little shit.

Ed Case
Ed Case
November 2, 2021 7:19 pm

The tragedy is that the French Contract involved technology transfer to Australia, whereas America won’t even let our submariners have a look at the Nuclear Propulsion System.
Until 5 minutes ago, they were agin Australia buying Nuclear Powered Submarines.

JC
JC
November 2, 2021 7:20 pm

France is a major Industrial Nation, but a $90 Bil. contract isv still a big deal.
Various actors have been shilling in the Press for the Contract to be ripped up for a couple of years, so why didn’t France do better?

We were allowed to escape the contract. What is Macron going to do -demand Hermes shops close down in Australian capitals?

Diogenes
Diogenes
November 2, 2021 7:20 pm

My ex-colleague is telling me that the govt screwed up when they bought the return date forward as most of our older (ie over 60) staff waited as long as they could, and are screwed because they can only get the AZ and some will not be eligible for the 2nd shot until after Xmas.

As I still have access to my email, I can see I am constantly being badgered for my vax details even though I resigned as a permanent employee as at the end of July & worked my last day as a casual at the beginning of September.

He was bitching because between the unvaxxed and until yesterday, staff coming from Lake Macq & Newcastle were barred from working on the Central Coast , 12/80 were not at work, only 3 casuals to replace them, classes out of area being split 4 ways (ie out of 5 periods in the same subject , kids will see 4 different teachers none of whom are their regular teacher. He says the focus at the moment is ‘resocialising’ them.

JC
JC
November 2, 2021 7:21 pm

The tragedy is that the French Contract involved technology transfer to Australia, whereas America won’t even let our submariners have a look at the Nuclear Propulsion System.
Until 5 minutes ago, they were agin Australia buying Nuclear Powered Submarines.

Nonsense. We have to gain an understanding of the basic mechanics in order to operate the fucking things. The Frog subs were stupid – just like you.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
November 2, 2021 7:22 pm

FMD Scientific American is a disgraceful rag..

COVID Vaccine Authorized for Kids Age 5 to 11
The FDA’s decision to expand eligibility for the Pfizer vaccine to young kids could mean less illness, safer school and more freedom

Ill pick “people who dont exist” for $20 thanks..

Nathali Rodriguez, a mother of two in Grand Prairie, Texas, says she is calling her children’s pediatrician this week to try to schedule their vaccine for the first day it is available. “I want to get them a vaccine as soon as possible,” Rodriguez says. “I feel like we’re at that light at the end of the tunnel. Just knowing that they’ll be vaccinated makes me breathe a little bit easier, and with the holidays coming up, we’ll feel a lot safer being all close together.”

Diogenes
Diogenes
November 2, 2021 7:28 pm

What did they do? Cheat in plasticine class?

Nope. Given the current policies, it will have been for assault or playing Drs & Nurses. Two of my nieces teach in Primary, one is an assistant Principal, the other a classroom teacher in a mid-coast school, the AP has had a chair broken over her back, and the other has been king hit. The mid coast niece walked into a bathroom to find a grade 6 boy having sex with a grade 3 girl.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
November 2, 2021 7:29 pm

Show called Norsemen.

Played pretty straight and looks ok.

Covers the evolution of government well. in this clip.

Dot, watch and learn.

https://youtu.be/Yi8e4M3Us9A

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Border Closure

Calli: Qld has just stood down circa 4,000 health workers (on full pay) coz, unvaxxed.
Likewise there’s issues with cops objecting to the shot, though I’m not updated on where it is at.

A cop’s spouse works for me, apparently everybody at the station is 200% vaxxed & can’t comprehend anybody being unwilling to be vaxxed (or even not wearing masks 25 hrs per day if Nanny Jeanette Young told them to)

Then again, that’s cops, a significant proportion of whom are unimaginative & no amount of regulation in their lives would be too much. They actually love it.

Ed Case
Ed Case
November 2, 2021 7:31 pm

We were allowed to escape the contract

Correct. For non performance.
From the French point of view, how was that allowed to happen?
Biden has thrown Scotty under a bus and Macron has called him a liar.
If it turns out that Macron was told about the cancellation when Scotty says he told him, the Biden and Macron are lying and the question becomes:
Why?

What is Macron going to do -demand Hermes shops close down in Australian capitals?

Australia had the chance to develop a Naval Shipbuilding Industry.
The United States wasn’t thrilled about that, and next thing you know, there’s been a backflip.
Macron’s best response is to call Scotty a liar, so what is he trying to hide?

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
November 2, 2021 7:34 pm

involved technology transfer to Australia

We have diesel engine tech.

And the Froggies have form on installing crippleware.

Will they be painted white Ed?

Franx
Franx
November 2, 2021 7:34 pm

How do the vaxx edicts work – by what kind of process does enforcement for one injection become enforcement for two injections, and then three, etc? Is there an amended document binding in law to accompany each injected-status which renders a person ‘fully vaccinated’? At this current stage, how could it happen that the double jabbed could become, officially, no longer ‘fully vaccinated’?
If there is no accompanying lawful process ( other than one that is imposed on employers and businesses to jab) then a call for ‘boosters’ cannot simply negate an extant ‘fully vaccinated’ status. Perhaps hope lies in the double jabbed insisting they are officially (lawfully?) fully vaccinated. Surely the tide would then turn in relation to the unjabbed as well, with the jabbing being seen by all and sundry more clearly for what it is. Surely.

Diogenes
Diogenes
November 2, 2021 7:35 pm

If it turns out that Macron was told about the cancellation when Scotty says he told him, the Biden and Macron are lying and the question becomes:
Why?

Micro knew what was coming & did the equivalent of sticking his fingers in his ears and going “lalalala I can’t hear you”. It is for domestic consumption as he trailing in the polls leading up to the election early next year.

As for Biden, he can’t remember what day it is.

Ed Case
Ed Case
November 2, 2021 7:36 pm

Nonsense. We have to gain an understanding of the basic mechanics in order to operate the fucking things

The Nuclear Propulsion System requires maintenance.
Since the United States [and presumably the U.K.] is keeping it Secret Squirrel from us, maintenance will have to be done in North America or the British Isles.
Does this purchase then make any sense?

Zipster
Zipster
November 2, 2021 7:37 pm

France is a major Industrial Nation,

the word you are looking for is ‘was’, you’re welcome.

JC
JC
November 2, 2021 7:38 pm

Australia had the chance to develop a Naval Shipbuilding Industr

No we don’t.

The Nuclear Propulsion System requires maintenance.
Since the United States [and presumably the U.K.] is keeping it Secret Squirrel from us, maintenance will have to be done in North America or the British Isles.
Does this purchase then make any sense?

I don’t believe that. You’re making that up.

Dot
Dot
November 2, 2021 7:41 pm

I have come to the conclusion that no delegated legislation should exist and any State of Emergency crap needs to be for a real no bullshit shooting war only. Plus, all legislation ought to be sunsetted into repeal every seven years.

Boambee John
Boambee John
November 2, 2021 7:42 pm

Bruce of Newcastlesays:
November 2, 2021 at 6:20 pm
This is about punishment, pure and simple.

Which is one reason why I embrace the cleansing feeling of responding with “get stuffed”.

Remember your ARes days. Start with dumb insolence and passive aggressiveness. Proceed to minimal foot dragging pseudo cooperation. And always with snide humour directed at the oppressor.

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
November 2, 2021 7:44 pm

Dunno, I don’t think they can… can they?

Step 1 would have to be for Giggles to resign or get Arkancided. Then the legal situation is that the President has power to appoint a new VP with the approval of a majority of both Houses of Congress. Then if the President goes, the appointed VP becomes Prez. That’s how Gerald Ford got the gig.

Apart from shafting Giggles, the major hurdle is to get “Dr Jill” to puppet master Joe’s appointment of Hillary. I’d say Dr Jill is more likely to appoint herself.

So it would take some doing but it’s not impossible.

Ed Case
Ed Case
November 2, 2021 7:44 pm

thefrollickingmole said:

And the Froggies have form on installing crippleware.

Such as?

Zipster
Zipster
November 2, 2021 7:46 pm

We came out of Hotel Quarantine on 8 August. I still haven’t got my bill. At the time 6 weeks , now they are quoting 12 weeks. FFS I can be be given a bill in a hotel after 1 night, and that will include everything I charged to the room up until 2 minutes before I check out. Qld Health can’t give me a bill when it is a fixed price deal and they had me in their clutches for 2 weeks !

return it to sender

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
November 2, 2021 7:47 pm

Yeah, but you’d reckon the packaging/ shrink wrapping bit wouldn’t be real happy(?)

Yes, but the operation of the chocolate machine would still be unaffected.

Well I’d think of it like a PC processor executing it’s normal range of code to run different operating functions. Out of nowhere come the instructions appear to start executing a whole lot of unknown code that wasn’t there a minute ago, that bears no relation to the normal operations of the PC. At very least it could cause overheating and normal functions/operations to fail/crash depending on this and that. Recall those uranium enrichment centrifuges in Iran the other year?

Yeah, those are examples of big impacts, but that is not the rule. When I put a new block of butter in the fridge is there unbearable stress put on the compressor?

I would disagree that introducing mRNA to the cell is gene therapy. Genes are made of RNA but not all RNA is genetic.

Sorry if he question about evidence of changes to DNA seems general, it is in fact intended as something quite specific: Some observable direct, or indirect, change. At present the evidence equally supports the case that there is a change that is too small to be observed, and the case that there is no change. (Besides, most DNA is ‘junk’ – evolutionary flotsam. So a change that has no effect is not really anything to worry about either. All the EM fields we live around and the radiation from flying planes would be more of a worry.)

But this whole thing started with the question of why the vaccines are losing efficacy after six months. Unless you wish to argue that mutated genes are the reason rather than, say, the bodies response to the introduced mRNA – for some reason perhaps responding to the fact that it is extraneous or something else, then that is the only point to dispute. I have strong suspicions that the vaccines are flawed, they certainly are not performing as touted, and am not confident about their safety. I am just curious as to the reason they lose effect.

Dot
Dot
November 2, 2021 7:50 pm

(Besides, most DNA is ‘junk’ – evolutionary flotsam.

The same used to be said of RNA!

Boambee John
Boambee John
November 2, 2021 7:55 pm

‘Ed Case

Various actors have been shilling in the Press for the Contract to be ripped up for a couple of years, so why didn’t France do better?

Gallic arrogance?

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
November 2, 2021 7:56 pm

Gather round people, find out where you can get the one and only Dr. Ramblers magical mRNA elixir.
Cures warts, herpes, flaccid dicks, poverty, body odour, dandruff and scaly skin***.

Is it as cheap, efficacious and freely and readily available as Medicinal Compound?

If so, why has the TGA not banned it and threatened all holders or prescribers of the substance with mandatory jail time?

Boambee John
Boambee John
November 2, 2021 7:57 pm

Ed Casesays:
November 2, 2021 at 7:19 pm
The tragedy is that the French Contract involved technology transfer to Australia, whereas America won’t even let our submariners have a look at the Nuclear Propulsion System.

Looks like we will have to take the Pommy option.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 2, 2021 8:00 pm

Australia had the chance to develop a Naval Shipbuilding Industry.

LOL. We already have a fine and very productive naval shipbuilding industry.
It’s on the US East Coast, run by Austal.
Far far away from the MUA, CFMEU and AWU.
Only Frogland seems to be worse.

Boambee John
Boambee John
November 2, 2021 8:01 pm

‘Ed Case

Australia had the chance to develop a Naval Shipbuilding Industry.

We did that with the Air Warfare Destroyers and the Collins class subs. It didn’t go well. There is zero evidence that the Froggie Tadpoles would have gone any better.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 2, 2021 8:01 pm

Looks like we will have to take the Pommy option.

IIRC, one advantage of the British option is that they need less crewmen then the American option?

johanna
johanna
November 2, 2021 8:02 pm

please gamble responsibly.

Yeah, we get that slogan in NSW as well.

It’s an oxymoron, but since when has that ever deterred Those Who Know What is Best For Us.

miltonf
miltonf
November 2, 2021 8:02 pm

Re head case and the frog subs- I thought lefties hated anything ‘diesel’. Diesel-electric ‘technology transfer’- big whoop. It’s being used to haul stuff around the country everyday. Maybe French socialist CO2 is ok but GM-Alco-GE CO2 is not.

Re ‘Scientific’ American- it’s been shit for at least a decade. Fully on board re the globull warming hoax. I used to think it was rather good. Just another skin suit now.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
November 2, 2021 8:02 pm

Besides, most DNA is ‘junk’ – evolutionary flotsam.

Not exactly.

Closer examination of late in the medical research field indicates that the vast majority of that ‘junk’ is viral fragments- Bits of stuff you and your forebears survived, incorporated into your genome as reference data in case you encounter it again. Which you then pass to your offspring when you reproduce.

As such, everyone has a unique genetic record. And certain reactions or predilections (or lack of) to certain diseases or disease types are passed between generations.

Boambee John
Boambee John
November 2, 2021 8:04 pm

Dot

Plus, all legislation ought to be sunsetted into repeal every seven years.

After Oliver Cromwell, the British Army Act had to be re-passed at regular (one or five year) intervals.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
November 2, 2021 8:04 pm

For all Grigory’s attempts at gypsum-fuelled wilful wrongology and griefing tonight, at least he’s not crying about a lack of Mutton…

Dot
Dot
November 2, 2021 8:05 pm

denied her long service leave

Outrageous.

The post licensure efficacy data on the vaccines is at best 88% and goes as low as 33%.

Dot
Dot
November 2, 2021 8:06 pm

My reference is the latest ATAGI guidelines on vaccine administration.

Dot
Dot
November 2, 2021 8:08 pm

https://www.nationalparks.nsw.gov.au/visit-a-park/parks/wadbilliga-national-park/visitor-info

???

Closed due to current alerts

https://www.nationalparks.nsw.gov.au/visit-a-park/parks/wadbilliga-national-park/local-alerts

Current alerts in this area
Last reviewed: Thu 28 October 2021, 4.53pm

Applies from Sun 17 Oct 2021, 12.01am to Sun 17 Apr 2022, 10.52am. Last reviewed: Thu 28 Oct 2021, 4.53pm.

Other planned events: Notice of 1080 Pest Management Program
NSW National Parks and Wildlife Service (NPWS) is conducting a baiting program using fresh meat, manufactured baits and CPEs containing 1080 (sodium fluoroacetate) poison for the control of wild dogs. The program will be ongoing and continuous from Sunday 17 October 2021 to Sunday 17 April 2022.

The baited parks, reserves and state conservation areas include:

Araluen Nature Reserve
Berlang SCA
Badja Swamps Nature Reserve
Berlang State Conservation Area
Deua National Park
Egan Peaks Nature Reserve
Kooraban National Park
Majors Creek State Conservation Area
Monga National Park and State Conservation Area
South East Forests National Park
Wadbilliga National Park
Yurramie State Conservation Area
There will be signs at all baiting locations.

Domestic pets are not permitted in NSW national parks and reserves. Pets and working dogs may be affected (1080 is lethal to cats and dogs). Pets and working dogs in the vicinity must be restrained or muzzled and must not enter the baiting location. In the event of accidental poisoning seek immediate veterinary assistance.

Penalties apply for non-compliance. For further information, please call the Merimbula area office on 02 6495 5000.

See on map
Applies from Thu 30 Jan 2020, 2.40pm to Fri 31 Dec 2021, 2.41pm. Last reviewed: Thu 30 Sep 2021, 12.01pm.

Closed parks: Wadbilliga National Park closed
This park is closed due to significant bushfire and subsequent flood damage, particularly relating to bridge infrastructure. The closed areas include:

Lake Creek campground
Cascades campground
Cascades walking track and viewing platform
Tuross Falls walking track
Wadbilliga Crossing picnic area
Wadbilliga Road
Repair and assessment works are ongoing for bridge replacements. NPWS will be reviewing the closures as work progresses, however it is likely that most areas will remain closed to the end of December 2021.

Do not enter this park. Penalties apply for non-compliance. For more information contact 1300 072 757 (13000 PARKS).

Affects 4 locations in this park: Show list

Let’s shut the whole park down?!

Wadbilliga National Park is always open but may have to close at times due to poor weather or fire danger.

???

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
November 2, 2021 8:09 pm

Not all vaccines are created equal.

One of Australia’s most respected vaccinologists, who spearheaded the development of the Australian-made Covax-19, is facing immediate dismissal from Adelaide’s Flinders Medical Centre after he refused to get jabbed with an approved vaccine.

Nikolai Petrovsky, who has already administered himself with two doses of Covax-19, said he was issued a “threatening” and “draconian” letter from South Australia Health mandating that he gets vaccinated with a jab currently approved by the Therapeutics Goods Administration.

Note that the work experience journalist from The Oz neglects the word provisionally when describing the approved vaccines.

JC
JC
November 2, 2021 8:09 pm

Rex Anger says:
November 2, 2021 at 8:04 pm

For all Grigory’s attempts at gypsum-fuelled wilful wrongology and griefing tonight, at least he’s not crying about a lack of Mutton…

At least he’s glutton free.

Top Ender
Top Ender
November 2, 2021 8:09 pm

This is excellent Ed.

I am learning so much.

Can you enlighten me on these:

America won’t even let our submariners have a look at the Nuclear Propulsion System.

That’s weird. In the 1990s as a naval officer I was toured around USS Houston. Maybe I imagined it.

Until 5 minutes ago, they were agin Australia buying Nuclear Powered Submarines.

Could you point this out when and where they said this?

The Nuclear Propulsion System requires maintenance.

Can you detail what?

Since the United States [and presumably the U.K.] is keeping it Secret Squirrel from us, maintenance will have to be done in North America or the British Isles.

Are they?

How often?

Yours in anticipation.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
November 2, 2021 8:15 pm

At least he’s glutton free.

Best. AutoCorrect. Fail. Ever!

But lamb (and mutton) is generally fed Death Gluten as a supplemental feed source, too.

But because the critter got the constipation first, you are perfectly OK…

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
November 2, 2021 8:15 pm

Closer examination of late in the medical research field indicates that the vast majority of that ‘junk’ is viral fragments- Bits of stuff you and your forebears survived, incorporated into your genome as reference data in case you encounter it again. Which you then pass to your offspring when you reproduce.

Well, there ya go.

Live and learn.

JC
JC
November 2, 2021 8:17 pm

Whoops gluten free

Old Lefty
Old Lefty
November 2, 2021 8:17 pm

A nice observation from a friend about Gladys and the ICAC: if she had taken the advice if that strategic genius Maguire, ICAC might have known nothing about their dealings, but the Chinese government would have known everything.

Gladys deserves all she is getting, but how the proverbial did Keneally get away with sitting there doe-eyed bleating ‘poor little me, if only I’d known’ about Obeid, Tripodi and Macdonald’s corruption? She must have been the only person in parliament house, from the toilet cleaner up, who didn’t know.

Ed Case
Ed Case
November 2, 2021 8:22 pm

Hi Top Ender
You said:

That’s weird. In the 1990s as a naval officer I was toured around USS Houston. Maybe I imagined it.

You’re not claiming to have had a tour of the Nuclear Reactor compartment though, are you?

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
November 2, 2021 8:29 pm

please gamble responsibly.

Yeah, we get that slogan in NSW as well.

It’s an oxymoron, but since when has that ever deterred Those Who Know What is Best For Us.

The great Doctor Turf used to give more practical, specific advice at the end of his radio tips – “if you can’t afford to lose, don’t place the bet”.

Eyrie
Eyrie
November 2, 2021 8:29 pm

Besides, most DNA is ‘junk’ – evolutionary flotsam.

Last I read it isn’t and some of it controls which genes actually get expressed.
Which always was the problem. Where is the information stored that controls gene expression?

Top Ender
Top Ender
November 2, 2021 8:31 pm

Nope Ed, it wouldn’t have made much sense to me. But we went from one end of the boat to the other.

How are you going on the other questions? I am agog.

Megan
Megan
November 2, 2021 8:33 pm

Gallic arrogance?

Garlic arrogance more likely.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 2, 2021 8:34 pm

Ed digs deeper.
The core of the planet awaits!
Diverse, complex and not entirely solid.
What would a mere naval captain know about such things?

Earth’s Inner Core Not Solid but Much More Diverse and Complex, Finds Study (2 Nov)

Powered by nuclear energy but. There is that.

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