Can we get a check in from the Dept of Veteran Affairs on their opinion of lambie’s commitment to responsibility?

I think the word they used was “malingering”

38 Malingering

(1) A defence member commits an offence if, with intent to make or keep himself or herself unfit for duty or service, the member:

(a) injures himself or herself or causes or permits himself or herself to be injured; or

(b) by act or omission, causes himself or herself to suffer from a sickness or disability or prolongs or aggravates a sickness or disability from which he or she is suffering.

Maximum punishment: Imprisonment for 12 months.

(2) A defence member commits an offence if:

(a) the member represents himself or herself to be suffering from a physical or mental condition; and

(b) the member makes the representation with intent to avoid duty or service; and

(c) the representation is false; and

(d) the member knows that the representation is false.

Maximum punishment: Imprisonment for 12 months.

Boy.

12 months prison aye. Long time.

“If you are anti-mandate you are anti-vax whatever your personal vaccination status.”

Lol

Keep this man talking, please!

I’m not a very affable or likeable bloke

Who are you and what have you done with Mater?

calli says:
November 22, 2021 at 6:41 pm
I’m not a very affable or likeable bloke

Who are you and what have you done with Mater?

Too late calli – the nanny wrigglers have taken hold…he is lost. 🙁

Beertruk,
She got busted back to private for drunken brawling.
Happens to us all.

The Cats who know me know that I’m not a very affable or likeable bloke, at the best of times.

I vehemently disagree. Mater is very kind and gallant to old ladies who are challenged in the height department.

Bob’s opinion is worth less than seagull crap.

Vaccine Nazis was the theme. I knew we were in trouble by the hysterical response to it by some people on this very site. The people were ripe for a demagogue harvest.

Except it’s historically incorrect.
Here’s the heavily spun Real Story from Jacobin Magazine:
https://jacobinmag.com/2021/09/vaccine-mandates-covid-pandemic-german-nazi-inoculation-policy
70 dead from “an improperly administered Tuberculosis Vaccine” in 1930, known as The Lubeck Disaster.
Many decades of Mandatory Vaccination was extremely unpopular in Germany, the Nazis reversed course on Mandates.

The older victims are approaching 70 , it was obly banned due to faked research by Dr McBride,

McBride got into trouble years later for faking research on some other drug, but this is the first I’ve seen suggesting he faked any thalidomide research.
Any link or source?

Fat Tonysays:
November 22, 2021 at 6:43 pm
Indolent says:
November 22, 2021 at 6:32 pm
In my considered opinion, this man is a lunatic.
“If you are anti-mandate you are anti-vax whatever your personal vaccination status.”

Not only a lunatic but full of hate – he’d have no problems using concentration camps for the “unvaxxed”

The over the top reaction means we are in the right. Because these losers want to trample all over human rights, it subconsciously disturbs them. They are in the wrong, we have the moral high ground.

You wouldn’t be able to campaign as a TPI. Maximum 8hrs work per fortnight. In a different job than when you went TPI.
You would lose your TPI allowance. You probably would keep your gold card pension.

I was an LDP member, I respect them especially the Vic ones. Just that are low energy, I asked Limbrick several times to take a more active stance at the height of Dans lockdowns, his response was “Do you want me to break the law?”.

duh!!! of course, its not a law its an “order” from an unelected bugmen

According to some people if you drink yourself to death it’s someone else’s fault:

AN elderly man quarantining at Howard Springs has died from apparent alcohol poisoning overnight on Monday, the man’s friends have told the NT News.

“This is a dry area and we believe that if he didn’t have that (vodka) he would be still with us,” he said. “Bag searches and stuff like that should have been carried out.”

Regarding the aforementioned Senator Lambie, there was something else quite nasty which she said recently that now seems somewhat prophetic.

She was speaking about the wicked unvaxxed and how “we’re going to hunt you down” or words to that effect. Who was the “we” she mentioned?

I wonder if Corporal Lambie, Military Police, was referring to her former colleagues in arms as the Military Police are now exercising with the civilian police, stopping cars, checking identities, etc. in north Queensland.

Military police exercise with police unsettling Charters Towers residents

Didn’t Lambie have DVA chasing her for their money back? Not sure of the reason.

Military Police playing at Civpol?
I suppose decking the meatheads and running away is a lost art.

What would be on the ballot paper though?
Safe For Work, like in the attachments?
So F#cking What, like in the 90’s?
Sebastien Ffyfe-Whittington, like in the Home Counties?

McBride got into trouble years later for faking research on some other drug, but this is the first I’ve seen suggesting he faked any thalidomide research.
Any link or source?

Do your own research, Timothy.
McBride investigated Debendox in the 1980s, it was also a Morning Sicknees drug and his published findings either caused the drug to be withdrawn or killed it’s marketability, or both, I forget which.
Enter the ABCs Dr Norman Swan, who proved that McBride faked some of the research.
McBride was forced to retire from Foundation 41 and lived on another 30 years out of the limelight.
Swan revisited McBride’s research on Thalidomide and found that he had fudged some stuff there too.

Of course it was too late to rehabilitate Thalidomide as a Morning Sickness drug, but Big Pharma, thru the hand of Swan, had got Square with McBride.
The entire Thalidomide story sounds incredible, but doctors gave Premmies pure Oxygen in the US for about 20 years before it was halted.
Tens of Thousands of Babies were blinded for life.

LDP’s got a good constitution, but I’m not saying that it should stand unaltered forever.
LDP has some good pollies, but don’t count on them forever. Leyonhjelm was great value for a while, but let himself down on the way out. I don’t really dig Newman, and Kelly was a lost opportunity for recruitment. Fierravanti-Wells and Canavan should be actively courted.
Remains to be seen how membership might grow, and that’s where the growing power should be.
Unfortunately, UAP have the momentum for this stage of the “electoral cycle”. A Cat-style sweepstakes should be set up for defections inside 12 months.

I much prefer the idea that the election laws mandate pistols at dawn.

… here was no convincing evidence that it caused birth defects but the manufacturer took it off the market because of the risk of litigation and the cost of defending any claims.

Do you really need convincing evidence when the risk is gross deformity to a baby?
Apply the risk matrix.:
Potential Hazard: Catastrophic
Risk?
Well, we don’t know, but we spent a shitload of dosh inventing this crap, would you like a sling?

That prick consigned generations of pregnant women to months of misery.

Morning Sickness is a symptom, not a disease.
Pregnancy isn’t a disease either, though you could be forgiven for assuming it is.

Twostix:

(a) injures himself or herself or causes or permits himself or herself to be injured.

I guess getting a sex change operation which means you would then be downgraded to Base Operations only, because resupply of your medications wouldn’t be guaranteed.
Yes?

New research suggests Delta strain ‘drove itself to extinction’ in Japan

I note Morrison has rebuffed a cross-party attempt to have Commonwealth health directives subject to parliamentary scrutiny up to and including disallowance measures.

Good job.
It would only be used for grandstanding by Labor and The Greens.
Imagine if the Directive was to halt the Vaxxy Program and destroy the remaining stocks.?
Straight to the Committee, some clown would accuse Scotty of having blood on his hands.

I’ve just finished watching Ashes in the Snow on DVD. It’s a fictional story (based on a novel) of a family of Lithuanians exiled to Siberia late in the Second World War.

I’m not convinced that history repeats, in terms of ‘stop, rewind, play.’ I think that it slumbers, or hibernates, perhaps.

Starship Troopers. What a great movie. Saw it on free to air the other day in Hospital.
Book was ok too.

Swan revisited McBride’s research on Thalidomide and found that he had fudged some stuff there too.

Really? What was “fudged”?

Was it “faked research” as you first claimed, or something else which you’re now shifting the goalposts to?

I’m trying to think which was my favourite scene in Starship Troopers.

Winston Smith,
Have you tried reading one of those charts such as you put up on an IPad? I can guarantee you hours of fun.
I am not gruntled.

Hey Dan, sweety.
I ain’t an extremist. In fact, I am really ordinary and boring.
But you are making lots of us transition.
You’ll learn my pronouns next Saturday.

R

eally? What was “fudged”?

Was it “faked research” as you first claimed, or something else which you’re now shifting the goalposts to?

Give it a rest Timothy.
You asked me a question, I assumed good faith and answered you.
If you now choose to act the goat, go for your life, no one’s stopping you.

Yes, the downloads are free, and both volumes are substantial: 436 pages and 580 pages.
Clarification: Both volumes together cover the period 2001 to 2014 only.

More head kickers than meat heads.

My Dad told me that they were recruited by other Military Police who had to break up and arrest troops involved in pub brawls and the like.

Battalions used to have Regimental Police, who were the aforementioned head kickers and selected because the other grunts were extremely unlikely to mouth off at them if there was a contretemps at the boozer or similar to the point where the RPs were summoned.

They weren’t the MPs though. Known as the ‘No Mates Corps’, they were hardly ever seen in my experience*. Saw a couple of open-topped landrovers lurking about from time to time. Red berets. Generally inspid-looking. We thought they were best left alone though, if for no other reason than we didn’t know what they could or couldn’t do to us.

*Quite a while ago now.

ortressamerica.gawker.com/your-isis-goat-fucking-drone-video-not-isis-not-a-goa-1644378600

Twitter shows the driver of the red SUV as a genuine domestic terrorist.
Premeditated.
But even Fox isn’t touching it yet.
Over 20 arrests.
Multiple states.
Child sex convictions.

@ Muddy-

Those PDFs you linked are not paywalled, nor locked.

Cheers mate. These look like an interesting bit of Kindle-fodder. They’ll go nicely as a downtime read at some stage. 🙂

Speaking of military police, a lot of armies have had such types stationed in the rear of the very front line, to prevent anyone turning around and making off in an assault.

Somewhere I have an Australian WWII field manual, which advised officers if they encountered such behaviour, to unholster their pistol and shoot the first one, to “discourage any others”.

Does parliamentary privilege allow one to slug TBM in the face?

Bluey:

There’s a seismic change occurring, but what comes out of it I don’t know. A Heinlein style system? Dictatorships? Buggered if I know….

Which Heinlein system? He wrote of many.

Begs the question doesn’t it? It seems pretty obvious to me that the current systems of universal voting franchise are not working. How do you limit it to worthy people without it being corrupted by some who see power in expanding the franchise? In a lot of ways I can see a benevolent dictatorship being about the best form of government.

SARS-CoV-2 causing DNA damage? New hypothesis proposed – COVID-19 mRNA vaccines update 19

Give it a rest Timothy.
You asked me a question, I assumed good faith and answered you.
If you now choose to act the goat, go for your life, no one’s stopping you.

So the answer is that you were shifting the goalposts in an attempt to cover up that your original comment that McBride has “faked research” on thalidomide was bogus.

Timothy Neilsonsays:
November 22, 2021 at 8:58 pm
Swan revisited McBride’s research on Thalidomide and found that he had fudged some stuff there too.

Really? What was “fudged”?

Was it “faked research” as you first claimed, or something else which you’re now shifting the goalposts to?

Timothy McBride fudged the research because it was obvious to a perspective person that sometimes you don’t need a randomised double blinded study to see the bloody obvious and children’s lives were at stake. Unfortunately medicine still thinks such studies are a gold standard. That’s nonsense, I don’t like Popper’s falsification method but if I understand Quine correctly I prefer his more “holistic” approach to determining the veracity of an idea. That is, it is the body of evidence we need to look at, not whether a single study falsifies a theory; though that is still an important consideration. I trust Dover Beach will correct me if I am wrong about Quine’s epistemology.

McBride was punished while Big Pharma has time and again being caught out fudging data and the fines barely touch their profits.

Mater,
They say black is slimming. I have not found that to be true.

How many people do you estimate took photos of my shirt, and commented on it’s appropriateness?

At least 25 took photos, who knows how many observed it and gave it a nod of approval!

It’s not about the colour, it’s the content that counts!

In 1978 it was a very beautiful, friendly place.

Mountains, desert, snow-capped peaks in the distance, poplar lined melt-water fed creek irrigating rich fields, fresh hot naan out of the brick oven for breakfast.

On a flight from Herat to Kandahar I went to the back of the aircraft to get a few scenery snaps. In the end I didn’t stop taking photographs for the whole flight. Spectacular country.

The destruction of Bamiyan Buddhas: How the Taliban obliterated the 6th-century monuments to deny their own past

The Pashtun have only a short past in Afghanistan.
The Hazara were the majority until the British funded and armed the Pashtun to make War on them, in the 1880s.
2/3 of the Hazara were murdered.
The reason for the destruction of the buddhas was to destroy the Hazara past and to promote the myth that the Pashtun have always ruled Afghanistan.

Remember only the UnVaxxinated possess Organs worth harvesting, and Austria is a pretty lawless place these days.

Only two bullshits per post, Grigory?

What an utter disappointment you are today.

I want to see 3 new and non-recycled gypsum-fuelled wrongologies or speculations in every post you make here tomorrow, or I will report you to your Commissars for your work-shyness and lack of Revolutionary fervour.

(Always remember to whip your trolls for peak performance, Cats… 🙂 )

How many people do you estimate took photos of my shirt, and commented on it’s appropriateness?

I did, for one. Very flattering shirt with an even better message. And I wasn’t aware there was a dress code, I must not have been paying attention.

The Hazara were the majority until the British funded and armed the Pashtun to make War on them, in the 1880s.
2/3 of the Hazara were murdered.
The reason for the destruction of the buddhas was to destroy the Hazara past and to promote the myth that the Pashtun have always ruled Afghanistan.

Where is your proof of that, Grigory?

The Pashtun and Hazara are both Persian-derived, the former the latter descending from Mongol and Turkic settlers.

Both have existed in Afghanistan for 9-10,000 years or so.

In fact the Hazara are still more prevalent in numbers in Afghanistan (despite the Pashtuns’ best efforts), they are just slightly less inclined towards murdering and conquering their neighbours with the backing of Pakistan.

So fuck off and begone with your latest attempt to mendaciously shit on 3 lots of far better people than you, Pashtun, Hazara and British alike.

The Pashtun and Hazara are both Persian-derived, the former the latter descending from Mongol and Turkic settlers.

Correction:

The Pashtun and Hazara are both Persian-derived, the latter descending from Mongol and Turkic settlers in Persia.

thanks muddy

The reason for the destruction of the buddhas was to destroy the Hazara past and to promote the myth that the Pashtun have always ruled Afghanistan.

You are likely right, Ed.

No, the Gypsum-snorter is not.

The Taliban wiped the statues because they deemed them idolatrous, aside from the fact they are not of Islam
A close reading of the Koran will reveal that making any form of image of Allah, the Prophet or any other living being is strictly forbidden.

This is why the Arabs and their descendents have historically gone so hard on mosaics and geometric patterns. And even then, much of that in Saudi Arabia got wiped out by the Sunni-aligned House of Saud and the Wahhabis in the 30s, because it was made by the Shia-aligned Hashemites they had driven out.

Bitchy schoolgirl cliques have got nothing on the violent pettiness of the descendants of the two feuding brothers wanted to be the Caliph (functional ruler) of Islam after Mo carked it.