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The Fall of Phaeton, Peter Paul Rubens, 1604

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John of Mel
John of Mel
November 30, 2021 3:30 pm

In Lakewood, a group of suspects ages 15 to 20 stormed a Home Depot store around 8:30 p.m. and grabbed tools such as crowbars, mallets and sledgehammers before getting away in vehicles that were waiting outside, FOX 11 of Los Angeles reported.

I think the only way to stop these burglaries is for the local white residents do a couple of them themselves. Skin colour needs to be clearly identifiable.

Roger
Roger
November 30, 2021 3:32 pm

And what about all the Deltas?

John of Mel
John of Mel
November 30, 2021 3:32 pm

Rick, Ivermectin is one the safest, most tested drugs in the world. It meets the “first do no harm” criteria. Tell her it’s like belts and braces. It may not cure but it cannot hurt.

Just put some in a breakfast cereal or something.

Gab
Gab
November 30, 2021 3:35 pm

PETA launches gruesome online shop with goods made of ‘human’ leathers

The Nazis did it first but with real human skin taken from the millions they murdered in the camps. They also made lightshades out of them.

Roger
Roger
November 30, 2021 3:38 pm

The Nazis did it first but with real human skin taken from the millions they murdered in the camps. They also made lightshades out of them.

The Nazis were known to send people who broke animal welfare laws to concentration camps.

shatterzzz
November 30, 2021 3:39 pm

GO WOKE, GO BROKE .. seems the SALVOS have had 2nd thoughts about lecturing whitey! .. LOL!
https://www.wnd.com/2021/11/donations-dry-salvation-army-pulls-u-turn-guidance-whites/

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
November 30, 2021 3:40 pm

Ooo! Ooo! I’ve got one more for the Omicron variant being the biggest and baddest virus evaaaaah:

Omicron will cheerfully arrange for his minions to fleece you of billions and billions of dollars to ‘re-engineer’ a nuclear submarine to take diesel-electric propulsion, give you no practical timeline for completion and no assurance that the final product will work as intended (and that’s aside from the notorious leaky information security practices said minions engage in), and then throw a massive tantrum, recall his ambassadors and fling shit at everyone for weeks when a better deal is arranged between you and your mates. And you then have to deal with Omicron, all his minions and a disturbing number of your own bugmen all sooking and sulking about it for months afterwards.

AUKUS Boomer shots for everyone now! It’s the only way to be sure against the PLA and more spreadable PLA-N variants of the Chinese Communist [Party] virus…

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 30, 2021 3:48 pm

Amusing moment just now. Car full of poly guys arrives. They come door knocking us in our street. So I answer. Poly guy looks meaningfully at all the Cafe Bruce foliage and asks hopefully do you want tree service? Give good price! Must be a slow week.

So I says to him come with me. Go to front yard and take him to where he can see salubrious Cafe penthouse, and I say see there – a baby kookaburra came from there yesterday! He looks confused, I don’t think this has ever happened to him before. By now we’re surrounded by six or eight noisy miners perched on fences and tree branches. One lands on the grass about a metre from his feet. Definitely never seen anything like it before, brains were audibly creaking in adjustment in skull. So says I hey, got that tree trimmed and me and neighbour got that one done couple years ago, but no thanks. The trees are fine. Very confused poly guy wanders off looking very confused…

Zipster
Zipster
November 30, 2021 3:48 pm

Boosters in the UK will now move from 6 months to 3 months.

the proles not dying fast enough

Delta A
Delta A
November 30, 2021 3:49 pm

flyingduksays:
November 30, 2021 at 3:16 pm

No return visit from Vicpol yet?

Flyingduk, was it you who received a visit from the police for hurting Josh Teagues feelings, or did you merely post the article? I missed most of the exchanges that day, so never really caught up with the story.

dopey
dopey
November 30, 2021 3:51 pm

SBS Food: Still running Jamie bloody Oliver. I’d rather watch ‘Bob Carr’s Hot Wok.’

Roger
Roger
November 30, 2021 3:52 pm

Very confused poly guy wanders off looking very confused…

Polys have to eat too, Bruce! (smiley face)

Gab
Gab
November 30, 2021 3:55 pm

DO we have filibusters in state government? I thought that was only in America.

Chris
Chris
November 30, 2021 3:56 pm

https://claremontreviewofbooks.com/france-on-the-verge-of-civil-war/

Zemmour is deeply insightful and deeply offensive. He is the one thing to the extent that he is the other. In the autumn of 2019 he spoke to a “Convention of the Right” sponsored by Marion Maréchal in Paris. He gave a brilliant and embittered speech in which he warned: “The question before us is the following: ‘Will young French people accept to live as a minority in the land of their ancestors?’ If so, they deserve to be colonized. If not, they will need to fight for their liberation.”

That line brought the house down. It also brought legal charges against Zemmour for “incitement to hatred.” He was assessed a fine of €10,000. Zemmour appealed on free-speech grounds and in September had it overturned. Prosecutors are seeking to have it reinstated.

rickw
rickw
November 30, 2021 3:56 pm

How to run a lathe by Southbend Lathe Works, one the largest manufacturer of lathes in the world. Image stabilised.

(Great looking machines, they actually hired a well known industrial designer to do the styling, can’t remember their name. Clones also built by Hercus in Adelaide, Sheraton in Melbourne and Purcell in Sydney. The Aussie ones are actually the amongst the best versions built, they increased the pressure angle on the gears and the problem of broken gear teeth virtually disappeared.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIH6SAXWR5A

Gab
Gab
November 30, 2021 3:57 pm

What’s a ”poly guy”, Bruce?

rickw
rickw
November 30, 2021 3:58 pm

Flyingduk, was it you who received a visit from the police for hurting Josh Teagues feelings, or did you merely post the article? /em>

Delta, it was, there is a video link to the visit in one of the topics.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
November 30, 2021 4:00 pm

What’s a ”poly guy”, Bruce?

Polyarborist? A lover of many trees? 😉

Aaron
Aaron
November 30, 2021 4:02 pm

“Boosters in the UK will now move from 6 months to 3 months”.

Ain’t that science wonderful stuff.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
November 30, 2021 4:05 pm

Bruce of Newcastlesays:
November 30, 2021 at 3:48 pm

Bruce, you need to train your Avian Attack Squadrons more thoroughly.

I propose musical stimulus. This might do the trick… 😉

Chris
Chris
November 30, 2021 4:07 pm

carful of poly guys

I wonder if they are the same ones in WA? When a friend accepted their offer to trim fronds off a palm tree out the front of his house, the arseholes cut it off at ground level, then threatened violence if he didn’t pay up on the spot.
No names, stolen car.

Winston Smith's Keyboard.
November 30, 2021 4:09 pm

Knuckle Dragger:

Gulpilil did nothing that transcended our frailties. I have seen the results of his horrific acts to women who in any righteous family group he was supposed to protect. What he was portrayed as by an industry desperate to promote itself and equally desperate for both credibility and cash was not who he was.

If he had not been Aboriginal, he would have been a nobody.
It’s as simple as that.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
November 30, 2021 4:09 pm

This might do the trick…

And this, Cats, is why we should be grateful I never tried out for and got into the RAAF.

If it wasn’t this for fighters, I might got into terrible trouble for clumsily scatting this while trying to thread my way between trees, mountains and powerlines for the gnarliest approach and landing one could imagine in a Hercules or Caribou. Or that new C-27J thing they now have.

Or it could have been much, much worse…

Indolent
Indolent
November 30, 2021 4:09 pm

Bill Gates Charged with Murder for COVID-19 Vaccine Death in India’s High Court – Death Penalty Sought

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 30, 2021 4:12 pm

What’s a ”poly guy”, Bruce?

Very big. Great at paddling canoes over long ocean distances. Good at doing trees too. Me and neighbour clubbed together couple years ago to trim a big gum tree on his boundary which was tilting alarmingly in direction of my house. He got some poly guys to give it curry, which they did with alacrity and competence.

There’s been a long running story here with intrepid poly escapers from the penitentiary known as Western Sydney.

Tree loppers cop $30k in COVID fines days after they were busted doorknocking in Newcastle (2 Sep)

Sydney tree lopper makes teary apology to Newcastle from COVID-19 hospital bed (3 Sep)

Sydney tree loppers arrested for allegedly ignoring police orders to stay out of Hunter region (10 Sep)

It’s been a lot of fun! The ABC was quite careful to avoid description but you can see a photo in the Tele equivalent story.

rickw
rickw
November 30, 2021 4:14 pm

Island hop our way to freedom?! Located in Oz, VH rego!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBA_NzwHDe0

JMH
JMH
November 30, 2021 4:16 pm

Police have uncovered human remains in shallow bushland in their search for the bodies of missing high country campers Russell Hill and Carol Clay.

Hun a few minutes ago.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Border Closure

“Poly” guy. Got it now. Similar to “Mela” guy or “Micro” guy.

rickw
rickw
November 30, 2021 4:17 pm

Bill Gates Charged with Murder for COVID-19 Vaccine Death in India’s High Court – Death Penalty Sought

Good!

These fuckers need to understand what they’re playing with.

There will be Nuremberg 2.0 and there will be justice!

Zipster
Zipster
November 30, 2021 4:18 pm

Rick, Ivermectin is one the safest, most tested drugs in the world. It meets the “first do no harm” criteria. Tell her it’s like belts and braces. It may not cure but it cannot hurt.

my wife listens, why not yours? is she married to the fucking government or what?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 30, 2021 4:19 pm

I think they’re great. Fine examples of the free market capitalist spirit! Also one of my colleagues was a Samoan with a PhD in metallurgy and the build of a Test front rower. In summer we’d go for golf after work and he could hit the ball off the tee a truly staggering distance.

Winston Smith
November 30, 2021 4:20 pm

rickw:

Little Bloke: Positive – 99% ok.
Missus: Positive – (vaxxed). Lung situation getting worse, discussing with Doctor next steps.
Me: Negative – (unvaxxed). 100%, continuing with vitamins and ivermectin.

Jeez, mate.
That’s no good.
I’m not a praying man, but one for your missus.

None for you until I get a box of your sprogs used tissues.
🙂

Zipster
Zipster
November 30, 2021 4:21 pm

Zemmour is deeply insightful and deeply offensive. He is the one thing to the extent that he is the other. In the autumn of 2019 he spoke to a “Convention of the Right” sponsored by Marion Maréchal in Paris. He gave a brilliant and embittered speech in which he warned: “The question before us is the following: ‘Will young French people accept to live as a minority in the land of their ancestors?’ If so, they deserve to be colonized. If not, they will need to fight for their liberation.”

That line brought the house down. It also brought legal charges against Zemmour for “incitement to hatred.” He was assessed a fine of €10,000. Zemmour appealed on free-speech grounds and in September had it overturned. Prosecutors are seeking to have it reinstated.

the left are terrified of an uprising, a) they want a monopoly on violence b) they know they are history when it comes

rickw
rickw
November 30, 2021 4:22 pm

my wife listens, why not yours?

That’s a big question! 🙂

Highly educated and completely lacking in commonsense.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 30, 2021 4:24 pm

Oops, I think I meant “entrepreneurial” rather than “free market capitalist”. Minor point I guess.

Frank
Frank
November 30, 2021 4:24 pm

There will be Nuremberg 2.0 and there will be justice!

Sadly I don’t think there will, they might go out of fashion and stop getting invites to those insipid chat shows at worst.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
November 30, 2021 4:26 pm

Sadly I don’t think there will, they might go out of fashion and stop getting invites to those insipid chat shows at worst.

A fate almost as Worse Than Death…

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
November 30, 2021 4:28 pm

the left are terrified of an uprising, a) they want a monopoly on violence b) they know they are history when it comes

If the most recent worldwide anti-mandate (And broadly anti-Leftwit) protests are anything to go by, the teeming masses of angry proles and Cats have got the better flags…

#GetColonised!

rickw
rickw
November 30, 2021 4:30 pm

the left are terrified of an uprising, a) they want a monopoly on violence b) they know they are history when it comes

Has Dickhead Dan realised that his turtles and 700 assault rifles aren’t going to do shit?

rickw
rickw
November 30, 2021 4:32 pm

None for you until I get a box of your sprogs used tissues.

I will let him know that his snotty tissues could buy a lot of clockwork trains!

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
November 30, 2021 4:35 pm

O’Micron named after a family of Oyrishman with very small whatevers.

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
November 30, 2021 4:41 pm

There will be Nuremberg 2.0 and there will be justice!

There is something to be said for keelhauling as a means to extract a confession.

Keelhauling could be a lot of fun in places like the Mary river (NT).

Winston Smith's Keyboard.
November 30, 2021 4:42 pm

Zatara:

“Only” 60% of Americans are fully vaccinated. If the same percentage holds true for federal workers, that’s four in ten who don’t meet Biden’s mandate. The federal government would have trouble functioning if 8% of them were suspended or fired. If that turned out to be 40%, the whole damn thing would shut down.

Really?
That’s all it would take?

local oaf
November 30, 2021 4:43 pm

rickw says:
November 30, 2021 at 4:22 pm

my wife listens, why not yours?

That’s a big question! ?

Highly educated and completely lacking in commonsense.

There used to be a saying in the olden days,

The smarter, the dumber!

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
November 30, 2021 4:43 pm

Rick you must be married to my wife. Can’t tell her anything. Does your wife break things all the time?

Delta A
Delta A
November 30, 2021 4:43 pm

Delta, it was, there is a video link to the visit in one of the topics.

Thanks, rickw.

P
P
November 30, 2021 4:45 pm
P
P
November 30, 2021 4:47 pm

Megele

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
November 30, 2021 4:48 pm

Once more P

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
November 30, 2021 4:49 pm

Ahah! The bat earred mongele !

P
P
November 30, 2021 4:50 pm

Dr. Joseph Mengele, the Nazi Doctor.

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
November 30, 2021 4:52 pm

A round of applause for P please.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 30, 2021 4:58 pm

There is something to be said for keelhauling as a means to extract a confession.

Did you know that keelhauling, hanging from the yardarm at sunset, and flogging, are still recognized as punishment in the Royal Australian Navy?

local oaf
November 30, 2021 5:04 pm

Scott Mengeleson?

Roger
Roger
November 30, 2021 5:07 pm

There used to be a saying in the olden days,

The smarter, the dumber!

Speaking of which, a bunch of academic types have decided the Macquarie Dictionary’s Word of the Year for 2021 is “strollout”.

They write…

“Strollout has two levels: at one level it’s got a transparency and a play on words, but at that deeper level, when you think about the significance of it . . . it’s a really important marker for this time in Australia’s history. –THE COMMITTEE”

File under “Covid Derangement Syndrome” and cross-reference to “The Left politicises everything.”

I voted for wokescold, which I suspect didn’t win because there are a few on THE COMMITTEE.

Frank
Frank
November 30, 2021 5:08 pm

It can’t be very PC to refer to them as mongs anymore. Conflating heritage and facial characteristics from the northern regions of China with chromosome abnormalities seems like it must be a sin. Probably why it is so satisfying.

bespoke
bespoke
November 30, 2021 5:15 pm

Scoldywoke is more fluid, Roger. Easier to put in a song or rime.

Miss Anthropist
Miss Anthropist
November 30, 2021 5:16 pm

The Navy isn’t the same since they stopped the rum ration.

Roger
Roger
November 30, 2021 5:17 pm

Scoldywoke is more fluid, Roger. Easier to put in a song or rime.

I like it!

It’s playfulness lends itself to use in ridicule.

Top Ender
Top Ender
November 30, 2021 5:25 pm

I might jump in here.

1) I’m reasonably sure capital punishment has never been applicable in the RAN, unless it is in RAN units under RN command.
2) Flogging has never been a punishment – ditto exception.
3) The RAN has never had a rum ration.
4) Keelhauling has never been a punishment in RN or RAN ships.
5) Homosexual relations was a disciplinary offence until the mid-1990s.

That is all.

Carpe Jugulum
Carpe Jugulum
November 30, 2021 5:26 pm

The Navy isn’t the same since they stopped the rum ration.

And the young sailors visit to the golden rivet, getting rid of hammocks was a mistake too.

Carpe Jugulum
Carpe Jugulum
November 30, 2021 5:28 pm

Top Ender says:
November 30, 2021 at 5:25 pm

I might jump in here.

I don’t know, i heard about some weird shit going on in the junior officers cabin flat at sea.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 30, 2021 5:29 pm

I might jump in here.

I was taking the Michael, Top Ender…

Roger
Roger
November 30, 2021 5:29 pm

Homosexual relations was a disciplinary offence until the mid-1990s.

Whereas now approval of them is compulsory.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
November 30, 2021 5:30 pm

TE no.5 is it now compulsory?

Chris
Chris
November 30, 2021 5:30 pm

The Navy isn’t the same since they stopped the rum ration.

Dear Sir, I am glad to hear that your studio audience disapproves of the last skit as strongly as I. As a naval officer I abhor the implication that the Royal Navy is a haven for cannibalism. It is well known that we now have the problem relatively under control, and that it is the RAF who now suffer the largest casualties in this area. And what do you think the Argylls ate in Aden. Arabs? Yours etc. Captain B.J. Smethwick in a white wine sauce with shallots, mushrooms and garlic.”

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
November 30, 2021 5:33 pm

Scoldywoke, shirley gender fluid. Wots that dipping from you? SCOLDYWOKE.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
November 30, 2021 5:34 pm

Sorry got a bit carried away.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 30, 2021 5:35 pm

I don’t know, i heard about some weird shit going on in the junior officers cabin flat at sea.

On a more serious note, I was reading the report about some of the sheer bastardy that used to go on at HMAS Leeuwin.

John of Mel
John of Mel
November 30, 2021 5:36 pm

Omicron stole my shoes. Ask you know who.

WHO?

Carpe Jugulum
Carpe Jugulum
November 30, 2021 5:39 pm

On a more serious note, I was reading the report about some of the sheer bastardy that used to go on at HMAS Leeuwin

My older brother to Leeuwin in 1978 as a JR, he never saw anything untoward, just a bunch of post pubescent testosterone driven 15 year olds.

rickw
rickw
November 30, 2021 5:39 pm

Did Dickhead Dan’s bill get passed?

Roger
Roger
November 30, 2021 5:42 pm

Twostix upthread mentioned the possibility that some who have previously held to the covid narrative consensus are now trying to pivot away from it.

The essayist and novelist Paul Kingsnorth has done just that.

He writes, “As someone who began this pandemic journey cautiously cleaving to the Thesis, but who has tipped towards Antithesis as the Narrative has unspooled and the dishonesty of its proponents has become clear, I can explain my own fears easily enough.

We are in a revolutionary moment. Societies are being transformed, with no public discussion and no consent, into a version of a Silicon Valley nerd’s wet dreams. Unless we can reach some form of synthesis soon — unless the sheeple can address the fears of the covidiots, and vice versa — then we risk being blinded to where the real power lies, and what is being constructed around us as we bicker and insult and pontificate.

Covid has been both revelation and accelerant. Now the direction of travel is increasingly clear. Unless we actively refuse it, our future looks like a QR code flickering across a human face forever.”

RTWT

Frank
Frank
November 30, 2021 5:44 pm

The golden rivet?

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
November 30, 2021 5:46 pm

The ABC runs tributes to David Dilaithngu without once mentioning his domestic violence conviction.
Golden pass not granted to the big mob.

Indolent
Indolent
November 30, 2021 5:47 pm
Delta A
Delta A
November 30, 2021 5:48 pm

Top Endersays:
November 30, 2021 at 5:25 pm

Thanks, TE. Always good to have accurate information from an expert.

Roger
Roger
November 30, 2021 5:49 pm

Incl. in today’s Weekday Reading.

You’re ahead of me…it’s good stuff.

Indolent
Indolent
November 30, 2021 5:53 pm
Indolent
Indolent
November 30, 2021 5:54 pm
Carpe Jugulum
Carpe Jugulum
November 30, 2021 5:55 pm

Frank says:
November 30, 2021 at 5:44 pm

The golden rivet?

It’s a myth that the first rivet driven into the keel was a golden rivet, it was an excuse to chase a young junior sailor on their first ship arounf the engine room harassing them

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
November 30, 2021 5:55 pm

@ Indolent-

Of all the things that could (and should) be flooded across every electronic media space worldwide on higher rotation than [Insert latest pop song by X Artist or Y Band here] right now, that S.A. doctor’s reporting about the utter nothingness of Omicron is it…

#RedPillenwerfer

Indolent
Indolent
November 30, 2021 5:56 pm
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 30, 2021 6:00 pm

My older brother to Leeuwin in 1978 as a JR, he never saw anything untoward, just a bunch of post pubescent testosterone driven 15 year olds.

I seem to remember an inquiry by a judge, in 1971 -Rapke (?) that lifted the lid on some pretty disgusting practices, but exonerated all the officers there.

Boambee John
Boambee John
November 30, 2021 6:05 pm

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Border Closuresays:
November 30, 2021 at 4:17 pm
“Poly” guy. Got it now. Similar to “Mela” guy or “Micro” guy.

AKA Black knees (Melanesia), Many knees (Polynesia) and Little knees (Micronesia).

Indolent
Indolent
November 30, 2021 6:06 pm
rickw
rickw
November 30, 2021 6:12 pm

Thanks Dover and thanks Indolent!

Lysander
Lysander
November 30, 2021 6:12 pm

Who is the lady speaking in Vic Parl now? Making some good points…

“Victoria has had longest lockdowns, harshest laws and worst outcomes of anywhere in Oz..”

Boambee John
Boambee John
November 30, 2021 6:13 pm

Top Ender

5) Homosexual relations was a disciplinary offence until the mid-1990s

Is there any truth to the story of a murder (apparently involving homosexuality) on one of our County Class (possibly Australia) during WW II? Allegedly, the Captain was only prevented from heading out into international waters to convene a court martial on board by a direct order from Navy HQ. Part of the story was that he intended the court martial to end up with some yardarm work.

calli
calli
November 30, 2021 6:15 pm

Just watching tonight’s NBN local news…flooding.

Washed up and taking shelter in a shed…a bedraggled fox. The bimbette presenter preens about it being “returned to the wild” as the waters recede.

Words fail.

Carpe Jugulum
Carpe Jugulum
November 30, 2021 6:16 pm

I seem to remember an inquiry by a judge, in 1971 -Rapke (?) that lifted the lid on some pretty disgusting practices,

I believe it was a small number of leading seamen and petty officers.

As always, some people aren’t suited to a leadership position.

Boambee John
Boambee John
November 30, 2021 6:18 pm

Anither question for Top Ender.

Story I heard from an engineer officer. One of the Type 12s in Malaysia, an officer and a stoker caught in flagrante. Hauled before the Captain, the stoker had the book thrown at him, the officer got a light punishment.

The next morning, in letters a metre or so high, along the outboard side was “There’s a law for the rich and a law for the poor”. The deck watch pleaded “I see nothing”. The officer was flown straight home – nasty things can happen on a ship at sea, and the stokers were a clannish gang.

Boambee John
Boambee John
November 30, 2021 6:19 pm

This was supposed to be in my last comment.

I don’t know, i heard about some weird shit going on in the junior officers cabin flat at sea.

John of Mel
John of Mel
November 30, 2021 6:21 pm

“… lever the semi colon key off your computer keyboard …”

Nah, it’s much nastier than that!

Yes, indeed. It will lever the Escape key, so it finally escapes to the space bar and gets drunk on (o)Micronitas and pukes all over the keyboard rending it unusable for replying in the Cat threads.
Oh humanities!

Carpe Jugulum
Carpe Jugulum
November 30, 2021 6:21 pm

Part of the story was that he intended the court martial to end up with some yardarm work.

I don’t think any Captain would be that bold, in WWII, and even in more recent times, sometimes things are left to a gentle word to the Chief MAA, (Chief Coxn), mess president or Killick of the mess to undertake below deck discipline.

Chris
Chris
November 30, 2021 6:23 pm

Jenkins Inquiry: One in three parliamentary staffers sexually harassed

The vast majority of them obviously members of the liars:

One of the outcomes of #metoo was that judging by a fairly small sample, many men concluded that their good moral behaviour was a complete waste of life. Some of the loveliest-looking and indeed many of them highly-respected women turned out to have been knowingly and willingly participating in prostitution for movie roles, or going along with it by their colleagues.
Implication is that what high-status women claim they want from us men, is bullshit. They want the exercise of power on their behalf, money and merch.
If you can’t deliver, fuck off and be a good boy.

John of Mel
John of Mel
November 30, 2021 6:27 pm

Rod Barton’s about-face is so total, despite achieving very little in the way of concessions, you have to wonder if he’s being blackmailed. This is Victoria, remember, where ‘by any means necessary’ is Andrews & Co’s motto. VicPol dirt file? Honey trap? Phone monitored?

Nothing, absolutely nothing, is below Vic Labor’s capacity to stoop.

If that’s the case, the only honourable option for him is to come out with the truth. To say that he’s done such and such and the government/VicPol are blackmailing me. It could actually save him in the next election (depending on what it is they are blackmailing him with, of course).

Chris
Chris
November 30, 2021 6:27 pm

If you can’t deliver, fuck off and be a good boy.

In which context I call attention to Emma Stone’s anti-christian, homosexuality whitewashing movies. Really? Higher ethics than your nasty slander movie against Margaret Court, or denigration of American Christians in Easy A?

Lysander
Lysander
November 30, 2021 6:28 pm

The Victorian Attorney-General looks about 13 years old…

Lysander
Lysander
November 30, 2021 6:30 pm

Vic Parl having a dinner break now FYI…

Miss Anthropist
Miss Anthropist
November 30, 2021 6:32 pm

Recruits are more educated these days with higher expectations. There was a time in living memory that an eighteen recruit could have been working for four years at starvation money.
The Services were a step up. Full adult pay at eighteen. Promotion. Housing.
Three squares a day.
By golly some of the lads were good at digging holes. Living like pigs in the jungle or the bush was a bearable hardship.
Now you have youngsters. With an HSC. Never done a skerrick of work. Can’t boil water. It’s a bigger transition for them. No Service cooks. No cheap drinking. Gym queens training themselves the wrong way and making themselves more susceptible to injuries. And more psychopaths seem to be getting in.
I think the longer you have been away from war the more bullshit and make work creeps in
And the assessors at DVA are scum. The other staff there are decent but the assessors all seem to have very unfortunate personalities.. I’ve had to deal with them on behalf of others No wonder people neck themselves. I’ve dealt with them on behalf of myself and if it had been face to face I would have decked them
I enjoyed my time in the Army. I have my TPI and a pension so I’m not doing it tough. And I have a missus 30 years younger than myself. Not that it’s your business. I just like the world to know.
Of course I’ve had a different and interesting career path since leaving. But enough about me.
I suppose in the Navy homosexuality was dealt with under the Captain’s table?

twostix
twostix
November 30, 2021 6:36 pm

Man oh man America produces some solid individuals.

Imagine any of the fag liberal party having 1/100 of the dose of conviction the Arizona Attorney General has in that video.

Australia’s middle class can’t produce any. Dan Andrews – probably what an Australian would think of if you asked who is a ‘tough’ politician’s ‘confidence’ is a put-on and simply bitter spiteful nastiness and latent violent bullying masquerading as confidence.

No, the American middle class do something well with their boys that produces men like this.

JMH
JMH
November 30, 2021 6:37 pm

Did Dickhead Dan’s bill get passed?

No, you can follow debate, etc. here and here.

I bet the four members of Pond-scum Inc. who have flushed Victorians down the crapper are not even in the House listening to the debate. Limbrick and Crozier holding the floor.

twostix
twostix
November 30, 2021 6:39 pm

Well…..ok.

So as Victoria debates a bill that increases fines for breaching health orders….

NSW authorities increase fines for breaching Covid-19 health orders and impose new quarantine rules for overseas arrivals.

Roger
Roger
November 30, 2021 6:40 pm

Vic Parl having a dinner break now FYI…

Snouts in the trough!

Lysander
Lysander
November 30, 2021 6:44 pm

Great vid Twosticks!!! 😛

Roger
Roger
November 30, 2021 6:47 pm

Australia’s middle class can’t produce any.

It does, but they have no interest in going into the morally deranged world of party politics, which is quite different here from the US, where an individual can still have an impact.

Cassie of Sydney
November 30, 2021 6:50 pm

Look I don’t know whether this is representative of others who live in Melbourne but it does provide some hope. I was told that a Melbourne friend has been red-pilled and she has transformed from someone who was a rabid leftist and Dan the Man fan, who was always mouthing the latest progressive shibboleths to now loathing Dan and Labor. Nice to hear. I hope there are more of them.

Mater
November 30, 2021 6:55 pm

I was told that a Melbourne friend has been red-pilled and she has transformed from someone who was a rabid leftist and Dan the Man fan, who was always mouthing the latest progressive shibboleths to now loathing Dan and Labor. Nice to hear. I hope there are more of them.

It’s hard getting them to swallow, Cassie.

Old bloke
Old bloke
November 30, 2021 6:56 pm

Rex Anger says:
November 30, 2021 at 4:00 pm

What’s a ”poly guy”, Bruce?

Polyarborist? A lover of many trees? ?

Polygon, an absent parrot.

JC
JC
November 30, 2021 6:57 pm

It had to come.

NYMag producing book of essays on AOC’s greatness, among them

“—An essay on the role that her beauty plays in her public perception by Rhonda Garelick”

“—Analysis of her social media greatest hits by Madison Malone Kircher”

“—An essay on her rare authenticity by Molly Fischer”

https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2021/11/29/new-york-magazine-editors-putting-together-a-book-of-essays-on-aocs-beauty-rare-authenticity-and-social-media-greatest-hits/

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
November 30, 2021 7:00 pm

I suppose in the Navy homosexuality was dealt with under the Captain’s table?

Only one thing to be said about that.

You Silly Twisted Boy, You…

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
November 30, 2021 7:01 pm

Also,

That Cats don’t wish to know about all that, etc…

#GoonShow

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
November 30, 2021 7:02 pm

NYMag producing book of essays on AOC’s greatness, among them

“—An essay on the role that her beauty plays in her public perception by Rhonda Garelick”

“—Analysis of her social media greatest hits by Madison Malone Kircher”

“—An essay on her rare authenticity by Molly Fischer”

Righto, leftwits…

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
November 30, 2021 7:05 pm

Polygon, an absent parrot.

Polyhedron, a mate with a funny name who fell in the water and didn’t come back out?

Zipster
Zipster
November 30, 2021 7:06 pm

Over the past half-century, France has made a number of opinions illegal to hold, and it can be hard to know for sure when you’re expressing one. The 1972 Pleven Law narrowed freedom of opinion and authorized certain non-governmental lobbies to haul citizens before the court for racism. A 1990 law bans Holocaust denial. It has been interpreted under European law to ban “relativization” and “minimization” of “crimes against humanity.” Two more “memorial” laws were passed in 2001. One established the official government position that the killing of Armenians in Turkey a century ago constituted a genocide. Many reputable historians, including the late Bernard Lewis, dispute this. Another declared the transatlantic slave trade a “crime against humanity” and authorized anti-racist groups to file civil suits against people who did not share that understanding. In 2005 charges were pressed against the historian of slavery Olivier Grenouilleau for having “minimized” the crime of slavery by saying that slavery was not the same thing as genocide. The charges were dropped after an uproar among intellectuals, but the law, with its draconian remedies, remains on the books. In 2018, France’s legislature passed a law against “fake news.” In 2020, it passed the notorious Avia law against “hate.” France’s constitutional council later declared unconstitutional some of the law’s wilder provisions, such as that any website accused by anti-racist activists of sowing “hate” (without any mediation by a neutral judge) would have to remove hateful content within an hour or face fines that could run over a million dollars. But some of its provisions remain law.

the republic has already fallen, the rot has set in

Zipster
Zipster
November 30, 2021 7:07 pm

NYMag producing book of essays on AOC’s greatness, among them

“—An essay on the role that her beauty plays in her public perception by Rhonda Garelick”

“—Analysis of her social media greatest hits by Madison Malone Kircher”

“—An essay on her rare authenticity by Molly Fischer”

a treatise on her profound stupidity

Frank
Frank
November 30, 2021 7:08 pm

AOC’s greatness. That list of attributes (spurious as they may be) still rank higher than “toned arms” when it comes to cobbling together compliments.

John of Mel
John of Mel
November 30, 2021 7:08 pm

Let’s get this straight: this is state mandated drug dependency.

Are they conditioning us for introduction of Soma?

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 30, 2021 7:10 pm

Grigs monetised the skin suits.

Leatherface approves.

Carpe Jugulum
Carpe Jugulum
November 30, 2021 7:11 pm

Recruits are more educated these days with higher expectations. There was a time in living memory that an eighteen recruit could have been working for four years at starvation money.
The Services were a step up. Full adult pay at eighteen. Promotion. Housing.
Three squares a day.

Part of it is they are not weeding out those unsuited to military life, it is not for everyone and that should have been at the front of their minds in recruit training, Also there are people joining for the wrong reason, it has become a box ticking exercise with a fitness component, that does not prepare them for a 6 to 9 month deployment, including peacetime deployments.

From a Naval perspective, communal harmony below decks has been cast aside for a touchy feely approach better suited to a corporate HR dept. Time between ports used to be 4 to over 50 days now non-warlike deployment is 4 to 10 days between ports and as a result those sailors are not prepared for extended time in defence watches or closed up at station

When it came to the 2 Army postings i had (1Mil, 1AVN), dress, conduct, bearing, discipline, professionalism and also being physically fit was at the forefront.

Defence in the modern age has forgotten what their mission statement originally was and they are trying to act like a corporation with a nanny HR department not a defence force.

Sadly i believe this rot started back in the mid to late 1990’s

Goanna
Goanna
November 30, 2021 7:12 pm

Cassie
I think the freedom marches are influential, especially for long suffering Melbournians .

Cassie of Sydney
November 30, 2021 7:13 pm

“the republic has already fallen, the rot has set in”

Correct. The scenario in Houellebecq’s “Submission” is inevitable….what will happen is that the left will side with Islamists.

Houellebecq is a seer, just like Orwell was.

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 30, 2021 7:17 pm

Scanlon Foundation

These backyard, tax dodging outfits give quality think tanks with a proven track record of quality research and policy advice like Teh <Ponds Institute a bad name

Top Ender
Top Ender
November 30, 2021 7:32 pm

Yes BJ, to the HMAS Australia murder. I have some stuff somewhere about it, but IIRR there has been a book published fairly recently about the trial and possible proceedings.

Top Ender
Top Ender
November 30, 2021 7:33 pm

The other one I don’t know about BJ.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 30, 2021 7:35 pm

but IIRR there has been a book published fairly recently about the trial and possible proceedings.

Dark Secrets: The True Story of Murder in HMAS Australia

by Robert Hadler

Publisher: Wilkinson Publishing 2020

ISBN: 9781925927436

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 30, 2021 7:36 pm

Houellebecq doesn’t hold back. Doesn’t give a shit about the Mo Bros.

Cassie of Sydney
November 30, 2021 7:38 pm

“Goannasays:
November 30, 2021 at 7:12 pm
Cassie
I think the freedom marches are influential, especially for long suffering Melbournians .”

I hope so, I was certainly heartened to hear that she’d swallowed a red-pill. I’d actually got to a stage where I wasn’t enjoying her company and I was avoiding her whenever she was in Sydney visiting relatives (not a frequent occurrence in the age of Covid). When she was in Sydney in November 2020 after her father died, at the minyan (prayers) she laughingly introduced me to someone as her “far-right” friend. I was not amused.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 30, 2021 7:38 pm

Part of it is they are not weeding out those unsuited to military life

Only because there ain’t many of them these days. The endless ADF advertisements on TV are a tell: there ain’t enough suitable warm bodies out there. And for service arms like submariners the idea of no Facebook for weeks upon weeks would horrify a lot of kids these days.

Hence more robots/drones is a really good idea. They won’t go to sea, but a data centre in Perth near to all those coffee shops and nice bars? That fits the psyche muuuuch better.

Ed Case
Ed Case
November 30, 2021 7:44 pm

Sadly i believe this rot started back in the mid to late 1990’s

The rot started when Whitlam took Conscription off the books in 1973.
When every bloke is a chance of being Called Up he’s got incentive to own and learn to use weapons and to keep himself in reasonable nick.
With the All Volunteer Army, well, you can kick the can down the road a bit more.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
November 30, 2021 7:45 pm

The golden rivet?

A skerrick of truth in that.

Apparently a lot of old Luggers used to have a gold coin placed under one of the main support beams.

http://oceans1.customer.netspace.net.au/wa-wrecks.html

Bluey
Bluey
November 30, 2021 7:46 pm

Why on earth would someone with any of the values defense supposedly look for join the military these days? You waste so much time equity and diversity PC crap! Hell, they make it quite clear enlisting someone from Africa is far more valued than any mere white male who wants to serve the country.

Boambee John
Boambee John
November 30, 2021 7:49 pm

Top Endersays:
November 30, 2021 at 7:33 pm
The other one I don’t know about BJ.

Thanks for the responses.

The Malaysia matter would have been kept low key, few not on the ship would have known of it at the time. I heard about it in office chatter around ten years after the event. The interesting bit was the sailors’ solidarity, from the stokers to the overnight deck watch. I wonder would that apply now. In some ways, I hope so.

Ed Case
Ed Case
November 30, 2021 8:16 pm

https://www.unz.com/proberts/vaccination-causes-covid-variants/

More from Paul Craig Roberts on Covid Vaccines.

feelthebern
feelthebern
November 30, 2021 8:20 pm

5) Homosexual relations was a disciplinary offence until the mid-1990s.

Ok sailor !

Carpe Jugulum
Carpe Jugulum
November 30, 2021 8:21 pm

When every bloke is a chance of being Called Up he’s got incentive to own and learn to use weapons and to keep himself in reasonable nick.
With the All Volunteer Army, well, you can kick the can down the road a bit more.

I don’t disagree with you, to a point.

There is an saying, willing volunteers make better fighters than unwilling conscripts.

feelthebern
feelthebern
November 30, 2021 8:22 pm

AOC applied for the job via The Young Turks network.
They selected her to primary an establishment Democrat in one of the safest blue seats in the Congress.
There was nothing organic about it.

feelthebern
feelthebern
November 30, 2021 8:23 pm

Travellers wearing full PPE on planes are quite retarded.

feelthebern
feelthebern
November 30, 2021 8:29 pm

From the Quadrant article.

Out of frustration, he contacted two Republican members of Congress — Sen. Lindsey Graham and Rep. Jim Jordan — but still nothing.

Could have picked two worse GOP members?
Jim Jordan is so fake.
Talks MAGA, but votes Big Tech & Big Pharma every single time.
Greenwald, Taibbi, Tim Pool are all over his weaselling.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 30, 2021 8:35 pm

There is an saying, willing volunteers make better fighters than unwilling conscripts.

Could you imagine being in the same platoon as “Numbers” Bob?

Boambee John
Boambee John
November 30, 2021 8:41 pm

Bruce of N

Hence more robots/drones is a really good idea. They won’t go to sea, but a data centre in Perth near to all those coffee shops and nice bars? That fits the psyche muuuuch better.

Four parent SSNs, and a dozen or so robots subs controlled from the parents (standing back) might be a useful introduction into service under AUKUS?

rickw
rickw
November 30, 2021 8:42 pm

Why on earth would someone with any of the values defense supposedly look for join the military these days?

I think the more salient point is what the fuck are we defending?

The right of Scumo and Dickhead Dan to fuck us at will?

MatrixTransform
November 30, 2021 8:43 pm

What’s a ”poly guy”

we have them too … a Tongan that likes to cut down trees.

… always $1500 easy as, Bro

Plasmamortar
Plasmamortar
November 30, 2021 8:50 pm

I think the more salient point is what the fuck are we defending?

This is million dollar question.

I suspect the “real men” that still exist in this country would be avoiding the police force and military like the plague.
Men are becoming very aware how they are considered disposable and are degraded by society.
Why would you fight to defend such a country and it’s people who actively despise their mere existence?

We are not duty bound to defend that which is actively hostile toward us.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 30, 2021 8:53 pm

Daily Mail.

Yassmin Abdel-Magied claims ‘Australia is run by bullies’ in Twitter rant unleashing on Scott Morrison’s trolling laws – after she was driven out of the country over ‘lest we forget’ post

She previously referred to herself as Australia’s ‘most publicly hated Muslim’
Ms Abdel-Magied turned to foul language on Twitter to get her point across
She also delved into her own history of getting death threats in recent years

rickw
rickw
November 30, 2021 8:53 pm

“Victoria has had longest lockdowns, harshest laws and worst outcomes of anywhere in Oz..”

These things happen when you have a Narcissistic Mong running the show.

Nelson_Kidd-Players
November 30, 2021 8:57 pm

David Limerick and Catherine Cummings featuring in grilling the ALPolytes in the Victorian LC chambers. Answers for points such as why no blood testing for antibodies or rapid tests for workers not getting great answers…

rickw
rickw
November 30, 2021 8:58 pm

Kill The Bill website got memory holed:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOIBBv9Hxy8

Nelson_Kidd-Players
November 30, 2021 8:59 pm

https://www.parliament.vic.gov.au/video-and-audio/live-broadcasting

Answers coming back from the ALPolytes also feature lots of ums and ahhs, too.

Muddy (if it’s not already tabled): ALPolytes: a party member who can be counted on not to deviate from the narrative like it’s a religion.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Border Closure

Yassmin Abdel-Magied claims ‘Australia is run by bullies’ in Twitter rant unleashing on Scott Morrison’s trolling laws – after she was driven out of the country over ‘lest we forget’ post

She previously referred to herself as Australia’s ‘most publicly hated Muslim’
Ms Abdel-Magied turned to foul language on Twitter to get her point across
She also delved into her own history of getting death threats in recent years

Our Yassie can dream on.
I have not the slightest hesitation in putting my name to anything I would say to her, or about her.

She shat all over ANZAC Day, I believe this was a deliberate act to “stick it to” Australia. She was on the [couldn’t be bothered to look up which] ANZAC Day board & thus ruddy well knew exactly what she was saying, & had timed it for maximum impact and maximum offensiveness.

This was disgraceful, disgusting, & waaaay beyond mere disrespectful.

I’m ashamed she ever came near Australia & believe we’d be better off if she & her family had remained in whatever UN run shithole refugee camp they’d been in.
I’m glad she’s no longer in Australia & hope she never returns.
I’m bitter that any, never mind so much, of our hard-earned money was squandered on her.

Not one word of the above about her is racist, bigoted, sexist, aimed at her religion, or wishes harm or death up on her.
Though I wouldn’t be exactly broken-hearted were she to experience misfortune.

Ed Case
Ed Case
November 30, 2021 9:06 pm

We are not duty bound to defend that which is actively hostile toward us.

But we wouldn’t be defending them, we’d be defending Australia.
Thaty’sw the thing that Thatcher couldn’t comprehend when Enoch Powell told her he would fight for Britain even if it was under a Communist Government.

Bill P
Bill P
November 30, 2021 9:09 pm

Miss Anthropist, your mention of the Captains table reminded me of the Good Ship Venus
“The Captains wife was Mabel
And whenever she was able
She lay prostrate
Beneath the mate
Under the Captain’s table”
No naughty verses thank you.

Frank
Frank
November 30, 2021 9:12 pm

Yassmin Abdel-Magied. Could it be that the UK is not rolling out the red carpet to the extent she deserves.

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
November 30, 2021 9:12 pm

And for service arms like submariners the idea of no Facebook for weeks upon weeks would horrify a lot of kids these days.

Wait until we get nuclear subs, capable of staying underwater for months.
(I have watched Vigil so am an instant expert on nuclear subs.)

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 30, 2021 9:12 pm

Thatcher couldn’t comprehend when Enoch Powell told her he would fight for Britain even if it was under a Communist Government.

Link? Reference?

Ed Case
Ed Case
November 30, 2021 9:16 pm

Do your own research, Zulu.

Crossie
Crossie
November 30, 2021 9:18 pm

Nicholas Reece looks like a porn star with that moustache.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 30, 2021 9:18 pm

Do your own research, Zulu.

You make the claim, you back it up.

flyingduk
flyingduk
November 30, 2021 9:22 pm

I suspect the “real men” that still exist in this country would be avoiding the police force and military like the plague.

I resigned from RAAF last Friday, precisely so I *can* fight for my country…. Verbally at present, anyhow.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
November 30, 2021 9:26 pm

I resigned from RAAF last Friday, precisely so I *can* fight for my country…. Verbally at present, anyhow.

Australia is worth fighting for. The politicians and bureaucrats are not.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
November 30, 2021 9:27 pm

And I have a missus 30 years younger than myself. Not that it’s your business. I just like the world to know.

*thunderous applause*

Cassie of Sydney
November 30, 2021 9:28 pm

Yassie did make us laugh once, who could forget her wild claim on Q&A back in 2017….

““Excuse me, Islam, to me, is one of the most… is THE most feminist religion, right?”

“We got equal rights well before the Europeans. We don’t take our husband’s last names because we ain’t their property, right?”

That was a corker. I wonder if Yassie ever opened her big fat ugly mouth to say anything about Afghani fathers marrying off their nine year old daughters to men in their sixties? I suppose to her that’s very feminist. And Yassie has always been silent about honour killings, about FGM, about child marriage and about the forced wearing of the hijab…all rampant in her very feminist religion. I guess that’s why the left love her, the same left that won’t give a platform to ex-Muslim women like Ayaan Hirsi Ali (a victim of FGM) or Yasmine Mohammed, they’d rather spruik the cartoon Yassie because the left and Yassie don’t like the truth.

Anyway, Yassie ended up shitting all over herself which is why she had to run away and she can stay away.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
November 30, 2021 9:29 pm

Link? Reference?

It’s right next to ‘gypsum is toxic in water’.

Plasmamortar
Plasmamortar
November 30, 2021 9:31 pm

But we wouldn’t be defending them, we’d be defending Australia.

What is Australia?

It is certainly not the country now that it once was…

What do you defend if what you once valued about your country no longer exists?

Perhaps, like a condemned building, no amount of repair work can fix it?

Sometimes all that can be done is to demolish what once was and build over the ashes…

Also, do not mistake what I say as part of the so called “build back better” I mean in terms of what the founding fathers of the U.S. stated, that is the Responsibility of the people to tear down a corrupt government and replace it once it has lost its way.

The real problem is, the people have also lost their way…

Ed Case
Ed Case
November 30, 2021 9:39 pm

You make the claim, you back it up.

If you’ve got a burr in your britches about my comment, you’re free to refute it.

Ed Case
Ed Case
November 30, 2021 9:43 pm

the same left that won’t give a platform to ex-Muslim women like Ayaan Hirsi Ali (a victim of FGM)

Why does anyone give a platform to Ayaan Hirsi Ali, she’s an obvious grifter.

Cassie of Sydney
November 30, 2021 9:45 pm

“Why does anyone give a platform to Ayaan Hirsi Ali, she’s an obvious grifter.”

I don’t think so. Enough trolling for the day, go to bed Ed.

Mater
November 30, 2021 9:49 pm

Thaty’sw the thing that Thatcher couldn’t comprehend when Enoch Powell told her he would fight for Britain even if it was under a Communist Government.

And he was wrong.
Values don’t exist in some “transcendental realm, beyond space and time”, as he stated.
Ask Solzhenitsyn.

Powell would have fought for Britain under a Communist government…mainly because he’d have had the point of a bayonet rubbing between his shoulder blades and a round up the spout waiting to follow it in, if he didn’t. Fuck all to do with transcendental values.

Without the values, Australia is merely a nine letter word…and a whole lot of substandard soil.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
November 30, 2021 9:49 pm

Why does anyone give a platform to Ayaan Hirsi Ali, she’s an obvious grifter.

This is what happens when you let 19 year old first year uni dunderheads have access to the internet.

Ed Case
Ed Case
November 30, 2021 9:55 pm

Values don’t exist in some “transcendental realm, beyond space and time”, as he stated.
Ask Solzhenitsyn.

You could, except he’s dead.
His written Work suggests that he did share Enoch Powell’s views about his own Country, since he joined the Red Army as a young man and fought against the German Invasion of 1941.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
November 30, 2021 10:00 pm

While serving as a captain in the Red Army during World War II, Solzhenitsyn was arrested by the SMERSH and sentenced to eight years in the Gulag and then internal exile for criticizing Soviet leader Joseph Stalin in a private letter.

Uh huh.

Do you reckon he still shared this view after he got out of the gulag, Junior?

Mater
November 30, 2021 10:01 pm

His written Work suggests that he did share Enoch Powell’s views about his own Country, since he joined the Red Army as a young man and fought against the German Invasion of 1941.

And arrested by that same regime, 1942, and imprisoned. What he subsequently wrote about that regime is highly relevant.

Might be worth you taking the time to read it in detail. On balance, he seemed to think the Germans less evil.

Mater
November 30, 2021 10:03 pm

Correction: 1945

Ed Case
Ed Case
November 30, 2021 10:30 pm

And arrested by that same regime, 1942, and imprisoned. What he subsequently wrote about that regime is highly relevant.

Relevant to what?
Are you suggesting that if he’s had his time over, he wouldn’t have joined the Red Army to defend his Country?
Because if you are, you’re inventing an imaginary Solzenitsyn who expresses your Worldview.

Might be worth you taking the time to read it in detail. On balance, he seemed to think the Germans less evil.

Perhaps he did.
That’s irrelevant though, since at no time did he ever express misgivings or regret about his service in the Red Army.
And if you had read Solzenitsyn more carefully, you would know that he held the Russians as a People directly responsible for the catastrophe that was the Bolshevik regime.

Arky
November 30, 2021 10:32 pm

People are creatures of habit.
Habits of mind.
I reckon 99.9% of people never challenge their habits.
Never ask themselves “What if I’m wrong”? Or even “What have I got wrong”?
No one wants to be TOLD they’re wrong.
Being wrong means work.
“You’re wrong” = “Do work”.
People get away with a lifetime of being wrong about almost everything because our systems have so much built in tolerances. They only have to be right about a tiny subset of crap relevant to themselves,
That an entire complex of politicians, scientists, academics, educators, media and citizens are completely wrong about something that is going to fuck us all is astounding.

local oaf
November 30, 2021 10:32 pm

Solzhenitsyn iirc, considered that he had been informed on to the spooks so someone could get their hands on a silver cigarette case he had!

He wrote quite convincingly on exactly which people survived the gulag and which didn’t.
Those with strong religious convictions, Baptists and Muslims were sustained by their faith.
Atheists and communists died before all the others. Starved to death while wasting every last ounce of their strength begging for paper and pens to write letters to the authorities……

Surely some terrible mistake has been made, I shouldn’t be in here with these Fascists. I’m a good communist after all.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
November 30, 2021 10:36 pm

People get away with a lifetime of being wrong about almost everything

Ed? Are you reading this?

You’re getting away with it.

Thefrollickingmole
Thefrollickingmole
November 30, 2021 10:44 pm

Arky.

Not seeing people get smashed for poor decisions is partly to blame.

Always the dole to fall back on so you don’t have to consider treating others like shit.
Eat lard and mainline Fanta, Medicare will pick up the slack.
Spawn kids and daddy government will pay for them.
Etc etc…

Thefrollickingmole
Thefrollickingmole
November 30, 2021 10:46 pm

By smoothing away the worst rough edges in life we have liberated our worst excesses.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 30, 2021 11:00 pm

Anyway, “Sliante” to all on the Cat. IIRC, it was jupes who recommended “Limeburners”, and that’s proof that Australians can distill decent single malt.

There was some awefull rubbish, masquerading as “single malt”, that was fit only to treat fungal infections in human beings, and blowfly strike in Merino sheep.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 30, 2021 11:11 pm

Always the dole to fall back on so you don’t have to consider treating others like shit.
Eat lard and mainline Fanta, Medicare will pick up the slack.
Spawn kids and daddy government will pay for them

That was the legacy of the Whitlam Government..

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 30, 2021 11:18 pm

Why does anyone give a platform to Ayaan Hirsi Ali, she’s an obvious grifter.

Not your best work Groogs. You’re better than this.

MatrixTransform
November 30, 2021 11:20 pm

You’re better than this

no,
no he’s not

Nelson_Kidd-Players
November 30, 2021 11:28 pm

Thefrollickingmole says:
November 30, 2021 at 10:44 pm

Arky.

Not seeing people get smashed for poor decisions is partly to blame.

Always the dole to fall back on so you don’t have to consider treating others like shit.
Eat lard and mainline Fanta, Medicare will pick up the slack.
Spawn kids and daddy government will pay for them.
Etc etc…

Once upon a time, charity was privatised through churches and other institutions. Always ready to help but with a little accountability through the face-to-face contact. Now, big-government daddy’s gonna pay for your crashed life.

Nelson_Kidd-Players
November 30, 2021 11:31 pm

Musical accompaniment for the post, in case Rabz is around.

Indolent
Indolent
November 30, 2021 11:35 pm

This is a short clip of Dr. David Martin not mincing his words.

Children are being murdered, and we are pretending like that’s one of the issues.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
November 30, 2021 11:38 pm

That an entire complex of politicians, scientists, academics, educators, media and citizens are completely wrong about something that is going to fuck us all is astounding.

They are people of faith, Arky. Like so many, including you. Just not your faith.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 30, 2021 11:49 pm

Always the dole to fall back on so you don’t have to consider treating others like shit.
Eat lard and mainline Fanta, Medicare will pick up the slack.
Spawn kids and daddy government will pay for them

One of my grandfather’s brothers spent two years “with his swag on his back, during the Great Depression.

He volunteered for the AIF – “Six bob a day, a pair of trousers with the ar$e still in them, and the first pair of new boots I ever owned.”

North Africa – Ruin Ridge and El Alamein – New Guinea.

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