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The Fall of Phaeton, Peter Paul Rubens, 1604

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Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
November 30, 2021 11:53 pm

Ed Casesays:
November 30, 2021 at 9:16 pm
Do your own research, Zulu.

Poor old mentally defective shiteater Ed.

Makes a BIIIIG statement with 0.00000 [recurring to infinity] evidence to back it up.

Then when he’s challenged on it, demands other people produce evidence.

No-one is obliged to prove a negative. If someone says it didn’t happen, they’re entitled to claim that there’s zero evidence. They don’t have to produce “zero evidence”. It’s then up to you to produce evidence. But you never can.

Dot
Dot
November 30, 2021 11:56 pm

And I have a missus 30 years younger than myself. Not that it’s your business. I just like the world to know.

Winning. I know you just triggered quite a few feminists.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Border Closure

And I have a missus 30 years younger than myself. Not that it’s your business. I just like the world to know.

You do not supply the key information:
1/. Can she cook?
2/. Can she sew?
3/. Does she drive you home from the pub?

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
December 1, 2021 12:26 am

You do not supply the key information:

Can she cook for shearers?

Bruce in WA
December 1, 2021 12:43 am

Well, here I am in Joondalup emergency. Breathing distress, fever, lung rasp. Stick with me Cats, this could be fun!

Brislurker
Brislurker
December 1, 2021 1:16 am

Take care BWA Prayers for you.

JC
JC
December 1, 2021 4:31 am

Mercantilism on full display.

This is mind-bogglingly extraordinary and getting even more mind-boggling as each quarter rolls out.

Australia is recording massive current surpluses, the like of which we’ve never seen before, and it’s all down to selling iron ore to China, with a little bit of help from selling coal to everyone but China.

Furthermore, it’s all been happening through the two years of the global pandemic, which has been more than somewhat ‘disruptive’ to the global economy and to global trade.

But not, it would seem, to the two things we excel at digging up and shipping off to the northern hemisphere. Until of course, we stop doing it to save the planet from frying.

In the September quarter, our current account surplus hit a record $24bn, according to the official data from the ABS, up from the only slightly less spectacular $23bn in the June quarter.

So far this year the surplus has added to $67bn. It will likely reach $80bn for the year, as iron ore prices have come back in recent months.

A surplus on the current account means by definition a deficit in the capital account. It means Australian capital is being invested overseas. This may indicate the marginal return on investment may be inferior to what can be obtained overseas and this isn’t necessarily a good thing.

Tom
Tom
December 1, 2021 4:41 am
Tom
Tom
December 1, 2021 4:42 am
Tom
Tom
December 1, 2021 4:43 am
Tom
Tom
December 1, 2021 4:45 am
Tom
Tom
December 1, 2021 4:46 am
Tom
Tom
December 1, 2021 4:47 am
Tom
Tom
December 1, 2021 4:48 am
Tom
Tom
December 1, 2021 4:49 am
Tom
Tom
December 1, 2021 4:50 am
Tom
Tom
December 1, 2021 4:52 am
Tom
Tom
December 1, 2021 4:53 am
Tom
Tom
December 1, 2021 4:54 am
Tom
Tom
December 1, 2021 4:56 am
Tom
Tom
December 1, 2021 4:57 am
Tom
Tom
December 1, 2021 4:58 am
Tom
Tom
December 1, 2021 4:58 am
Tom
Tom
December 1, 2021 4:59 am
feelthebern
feelthebern
December 1, 2021 5:11 am

Twitter Safety
@TwitterSafety
Beginning today, we will not allow the sharing of private media, such as images or videos of private individuals without their consent. Publishing people’s private info is also prohibited under the policy, as is threatening or incentivizing others to do so.

Wow.
Just wow.

win
win
December 1, 2021 5:36 am

How are you going Bruce of WA?

rosie
rosie
December 1, 2021 6:16 am

Has the ‘Indian Bar Association’ charged anyone else with crimes against humanity today and if so will they be seeking the death penalty?

rosie
rosie
December 1, 2021 6:22 am

Paywalled though

rosie
rosie
December 1, 2021 6:27 am
rosie
rosie
December 1, 2021 6:30 am

It’s sickening that the number of young women identifying as trans has increased so much.
What a dead end that is.

has Athena Swan lost its way?

feelthebern
feelthebern
December 1, 2021 6:41 am

With reference to my original post re twitter, there must be a pipeline of Biden related images that they plan on stopping.

Greenwald or Taibbi quoted a stat in one of their substack pieces over the past week saying that 70% of people polled who voted Biden didn’t know about the Hunter laptop.
Shows when the legacy corporate media & big tech get together, the impact is real.

Mater
December 1, 2021 6:58 am

His written Work suggests that he did share Enoch Powell’s views about his own Country, since he joined the Red Army as a young man and fought against the German Invasion of 1941.

And

Perhaps he did.
That’s irrelevant though, since at no time did he ever express misgivings or regret about his service in the Red Army.

Righty O Ed, whatever you say.

“The insane difficulty of the situation is that I can’t ally myself with the Communists, our country’s butchers—but I can’t ally myself with our country’s enemies either, and all this time I have no home ground to support me. The world is big, but there’s nowhere to go.”” – Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

And just for completeness, let’s revisit your original quote:

But we wouldn’t be defending them, we’d be defending Australia.
Thaty’sw the thing that Thatcher couldn’t comprehend when Enoch Powell told her he would fight for Britain even if it was under a Communist Government.

Aaron
Aaron
December 1, 2021 7:26 am

Greece moves to fines for dirty old people.

Greece fleece.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
December 1, 2021 7:29 am

The NT News headline:

Serial public wanker Gary Chisholm gets off again after appeal sags to half mast

The story:

DARWIN’S “world record” wanker will not spend any more time behind bars, despite his jail sentence for publicly masturbating at the Casuarina nudist beach being quadrupled on appeal.

Gary Chisholm pleaded guilty in the Darwin Local Court earlier this year to one count of gross indecency in a public place after “gripping, pulling and flicking his erect penis” while watching two topless teenage girls at the beach in 2019.

The detail:

In allowing the appeal [by prosecutors] on Tuesday and increasing Chisholm’s sentence from three months to 12 months, Chief Justice Michael Grant noted his “relatively persistent” history of public masturbation dating back to 2013.

Chief Justice Grant said Chisholm was twice convicted for playing with himself in view of members of the public in Queensland that year, including “while watching models pose for a swimsuit photo shoot”.

Two more convictions followed in the NT, once for masturbating while “staring at three members of the public at the main pool at Berry Springs” and then again while standing at the feet of a woman at the Casuarina nudist beach.

“She subsequently punched him in the head, to which he replied ‘Sorry, I was just putting on some lotion’,” Chief Justice Grant said.

Pogria
Pogria
December 1, 2021 7:33 am
Cassie of Sydney
December 1, 2021 7:44 am

“Serial public wanker Gary Chisholm gets off again after appeal sags to half mast

DARWIN’S “world record” wanker will not spend any more time behind bars, despite his jail sentence for publicly masturbating at the Casuarina nudist beach being quadrupled on appeal.

Gary Chisholm pleaded guilty in the Darwin Local Court earlier this year to one count of gross indecency in a public place after “gripping, pulling and flicking his erect penis” while watching two topless teenage girls at the beach in 2019.”

How long before Gary Chisholm “identifies” as a woman?

Indolent
Indolent
December 1, 2021 7:45 am

They REALLY don’t like control groups.

Covid omicron variant linked to vaccine inequality, experts say

What was that again about the new variant manifesting in the vaxxed?

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
December 1, 2021 7:46 am

Pogria says:
December 1, 2021 at 7:33 am
Looks like the Lying Apple never falls far from the tree.

A good reason that the word of a police officer should not be taken as fact without supportive evidence. They lie.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
December 1, 2021 7:47 am

How long before Gary Chisholm “identifies” as a woman?

Indeed.

He was, after all, putting some lotion on.

feelthebern
feelthebern
December 1, 2021 7:50 am

School shooting in Michigan.
Media’s fingers are ready.
If it’s a angry white guy, boom.
It it doesn’t fit that narrative, memory hole.

Indolent
Indolent
December 1, 2021 7:51 am

Canada bans the unvaccinated from plane and train travel

Negative tests no longer accepted.

If this isn’t outright persecution I’d like to know what is. The tolerant left.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
December 1, 2021 7:53 am

They lie.

They can also be gigantic dickheads. From the article:

Mr Moore had secretly taped that conversation but officers from the fixated persons investigation unit did not listen to the recording until long after his arrest.

Charged the bloke on someone’s say-so, then didn’t bother to check whether there was evidence of said charge until well afterwards and everything had blown up.

That ‘fixated persons unit’ from NSWPol needs to be burnt, sieved and then used in a slab for that bloke’s new shed with a mezzanine floor, free cable TV, bottomless piss fridge and with an electrified fence around it.

feelthebern
feelthebern
December 1, 2021 7:57 am

Still mind boggling that a terrorist blew himself up in England a couple of weeks back & no one cares.
A couple of months back, a terrorist butchered a politician in a church & no one cares.

The Liverpool bomber got promoted by the corporate media as soon as they found out he’d converted to Christianity.
But then memory holed it 5mins later because it was a scam to pad out his permanent visa application.
Can’t have any coverage of a migration scam can we?

Aaron
Aaron
December 1, 2021 7:58 am

The Third World?

Ya can’t win.

Jab em and it’s a colonialism.

Don’t jab em and it’s genocide.

Mind you, this shit they are passing off as vaccines might do both.

feelthebern
feelthebern
December 1, 2021 8:01 am

That ‘fixated persons unit’ from NSWPol needs to be burnt

It’s a great idea, protecting women from stalkers.
But like everything, it’s weaponised by bad actors.

The latest scam is IR lawyers recommending punters apply for an AVO against parties in the workplace.
Imagine having to manage that kind of shit.

feelthebern
feelthebern
December 1, 2021 8:02 am

Or maybe the scam has been going on for ages, but I’ve just heard about it.

feelthebern
feelthebern
December 1, 2021 8:02 am

& top o’ the page to yer !

Mater
December 1, 2021 8:03 am

They lie.

Meh.
Raised Labor. Whatever it takes.

Aaron
Aaron
December 1, 2021 8:05 am

These mandates creeping in Worldwide may see another bit of “Modelling”.

How many refusniks give in vs how many go postal.

Especially if their children are harmed by mandates.

Indolent
Indolent
December 1, 2021 8:10 am
Indolent
Indolent
December 1, 2021 8:12 am

Documentary by CBS 60 Minutes on the Swine Flu fraud of 1976. It went on air once, and was never shown again.

1976 Swine Flu Fraud – CBS 60 Minutes

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
December 1, 2021 8:14 am

Very rarely see an identified “covid” death- and not to be cruel, but she was obviously badly overweight.
Nursing in Sicktoria, she would also be jabbed, maybe even triple jabbed. No mention of her “status”, and amongst talk of support, take it seriously, raising funds, no compulsion to get jabbed in the article.

rickw
rickw
December 1, 2021 8:17 am

Has the ‘Indian Bar Association’ charged anyone else with crimes against humanity today and if so will they be seeking the death penalty?

Rosie, R U Ok?

feelthebern
feelthebern
December 1, 2021 8:20 am

Look at the neck fat in Wally’s post.
First rule of COVID: Don’t be obese.
Second rule of COVID: DON’T BE OBESE.

h/t Tyler Durden.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
December 1, 2021 8:20 am

Bruce in WA- how’s the system?
Separate thread needed?

rosie
rosie
December 1, 2021 8:22 am

Breakthrough covid deaths are very well documented, was never a 100 percent guarantee.

via Wally’s link, man who attended corona party dies.

Mater
December 1, 2021 8:22 am

Nursing in Sicktoria, she would also be jabbed, maybe even triple jabbed. No mention of her “status”, and amongst talk of support, take it seriously, raising funds, no compulsion to get jabbed in the article.

Believe me, the issue of her being vaccinated and still dying was raised EXTENSIVELY on Facebook. Tactless and inappropriate in normal times…but we are not in normal times, and people have had enough of the lies and deception.

https://www.facebook.com/9NewsMelbourne/videos/449175823222622/

Or

https://fb.watch/9CjRMXzB-Q/

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
December 1, 2021 8:32 am

The Third World?

Ya can’t win.

Jab em and it’s a colonialism.

Don’t jab em and it’s genocide.

Mind you, this shit they are passing off as vaccines might do both.

I don’t think the known ingredients list for any C00f innoculation yet presented includes flags.

A shame, really- A spate of spontaneous outbreaks of patriotism and civic-mindedness would be a side effect I think everyone might appreciate…

Boambee John
Boambee John
December 1, 2021 8:33 am

feelthebernsays:
December 1, 2021 at 8:20 am
Look at the neck fat in Wally’s post.
First rule of COVID: Don’t be obese.
Second rule of COVID: DON’T BE OBESE.

Yet, strangely, all the ads on TV encouraging us to eat well and not be obese seem to have disappeared, replaced by ads encouraging a vax that doesn’t protect the vaxxed against the illness, and doesn’t prevent the vaxxed from spreading the illness.

It’s almost as if health “experts” are unable to keep more than one thought in their heads at a time.

Aaron
Aaron
December 1, 2021 8:39 am

“A shame, really- A spate of spontaneous outbreaks of patriotism and civic-mindedness would be a side effect I think everyone might appreciate…”

Meh, the ones most likely to get jabbed would have made camp commandants in other times.

Cassie of Sydney
December 1, 2021 8:42 am

“First rule of COVID: Don’t be obese.
Second rule of COVID: DON’T BE OBESE.”

Quite so.

First rule of being healthy: Don’t be obese

OBESITY IS UNHEALTHY.

Cassie of Sydney
December 1, 2021 8:43 am

“Very rarely see an identified “covid” death- and not to be cruel, but she was obviously badly overweight.”

Not cruel at all….she was obese.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
December 1, 2021 8:44 am

If you are morbidly obese – not the medical definition, not according to your BMI, not with a slight beer gut or the early stages of bingo wings, but fully-blown morbidly obese, you are comorbid.

The places you more at risk of anything. Or, more properly,

everything

.

Covid has little or anything to do with it, but for unelected ‘health professionals’ whose previous specialities involved the contents of fat schoolkids’ lunchboxes it will give them something to talk about amongst themselves.

Zipster
Zipster
December 1, 2021 8:45 am

ATHENS, Greece (AP) — Residents in Greece over 60 years old will have to undergo mandatory vaccinations against coronavirus or face monthly 100-euro ($114) fines beginning next year, the prime minister announced Tuesday, declaring the country’s first general inoculation mandate.

exterminate.exterminate.exterminate

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
December 1, 2021 8:45 am

Snap, Cassie.

I am also an official and clearly untreatable format nuffy.

Roger
Roger
December 1, 2021 8:46 am

It’s almost as if health “experts” are unable to keep more than one thought in their heads at a time.

The virus is much more sexy than trans fats and sugars.

rickw
rickw
December 1, 2021 8:49 am

Update:

Everyone the same as yesterday!

I think my test will be positive, no result yet, normally if negative, you will get the result within 12 hours.

The little bloke and I started work on the g scale railway layout. A little short of materials but enough to get us going. Fortunately I had a pack of tools and tooling that I had intended to take to PNG, broke that out. Cabin Fever!

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
December 1, 2021 8:49 am

Looks like the Lying Apple never falls far from the tree.

There’s enough material in that article for a full blown crime novel.
Probably wouldn’t be believed though. The plod ignoring evidence so as to keep a thorn in their side in jail? Never!

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
December 1, 2021 8:52 am

Deaths in the two jab population will now be used as booster propaganda.
The jabs are paid for and must be used regardless of your antibody levels or Covid related immunity.
Do I need this?
Shut up and take it serf.

Cassie of Sydney
December 1, 2021 8:55 am

“The places you more at risk of anything. Or, more properly,

everything”

Correct.

Razey
Razey
December 1, 2021 8:58 am

When is this madness going to end?

Twostix
Twostix
December 1, 2021 9:03 am

You’re two jabs into an eight jab – then annual jab for life program.

Then only way to change this is to change the governing class – root and branch.

Solomon Islanders got that figured out before us.

Nelson_Kidd-Players
December 1, 2021 9:04 am

When is this madness going to end?

Never, if they can help it, it seems.

They appears to be no updates on the Victorian legislation this morning, but news.com.au is talking about Rod Barton receiving death threats, even if he may be more of a pawn than an instigator. We know where the real responsibility lies.

The article also talks about the necessity for Victoria to have measures in place to be able to interact with other regions, the same old line that seems to work for us needing to go with Net Zero, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera…

Can we not just take responsibility for our own location, letting others make stupid decisions as they wish? Those in charge hate that approach, of course.

Twostix
Twostix
December 1, 2021 9:09 am

Fascinating how rapid and on point a fully vaccinated fatty nurse dying from covid is converted to pro jab propaganda.

“Otherwise healthy” was deliberately used to describe her. Then we see the photo and learn why they specially inserted that.

Twostix
Twostix
December 1, 2021 9:12 am

See how quickly the establishment class come on message. When one of them dies of covid everyone of them knows exactly what to say, to lie, and to not say, without even being told.

Leon L
Leon L
December 1, 2021 9:20 am
Delta A
Delta A
December 1, 2021 9:21 am

Thanks, Tom, for another great crop of ‘toons.

I hope Branco continues drawing Fauci with a nervous little beagle at his side, just as he always draws Biden with an empty thought bubble and blood on his hands.

Leon L
Leon L
December 1, 2021 9:21 am

Link without the search.
Sorry.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hD0nwFHJPuw

Arky
December 1, 2021 9:23 am

Omicron cooked me breakfast this morning, but left off the bacon and burnt the toast. Well, not burnt, but darker than I usually like.
It’s a monster. Get vaxxed.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
December 1, 2021 9:25 am

First rule of being healthy: Don’t be obese

OBESITY IS UNHEALTHY.

We must just hope the next variant is not into body-shaming.

Roger
Roger
December 1, 2021 9:28 am

When one of them dies of covid everyone of them knows exactly what to say, to lie, and to not say, without even being told.

They’ve been socialised into comformity through 12 + years of schooling and university.

It’s been reinforced again and again through various means: Don’t question the narrative.

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 1, 2021 9:30 am

Burnt toast is in the eye of the beholder. Too much hot bread being severed around the place.

flyingduk
flyingduk
December 1, 2021 9:31 am

Everyone the same as yesterday! I think my test will be positive, no result yet, normally if negative, you will get the result within 12 hours.

My daughter (in another state) got a sore throat and loss of sense of smell yesterday – she and several close rels have started Vitamin I and the rest of the protocol

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 1, 2021 9:33 am

Roger, a livelihood dependant on writing grant applications will do that.

Zipster
Zipster
December 1, 2021 9:38 am

When is this madness going to end?

there is only darkness I can’t see the end of the tunnel at all.

Roger
Roger
December 1, 2021 9:42 am

Roger, a livelihood dependant on writing grant applications will do that.

Oh, it starts long before that.

Just try getting through high school these days as a contrarian.

5 years of spending lunch hours in the library would be the least of your worries.

And judging by my daughter’s experience the girls are much worse than the boys, and that was in a top private school. And then there are the teachers…

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
December 1, 2021 9:45 am

I have seen the photo borders people have used on Fakebook which read along the lines of “I distrust authority – and I am vaccinated”.

It actually begs a series of q1uestions, the answer to which is overwhelmingly that they have done something contrary to what they like to think about themselves.

Despite the smiling faces I can’t help thinking that their fear overcame their convictions of these self-styled moral colossi.

To be fair I also think their convictions retreat like toddlers at the beach when the water washes up toward them, when something might impact prices of things they like, or allows the great unwashed access to their salubrious suburbs, or treats them with the same with the same disdain they are happy to heap on others.

It is not that they hate authority, but they have in mind a very particular one. The Green tyranny with which they will be in good standing. Then they will be happy for everyone else to submit.

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
December 1, 2021 9:52 am

Don’t question the narrative

On another site which allows debate on covid as a subsidiary topic to its main focus, I posted one of Tom’s Toons – the “vaccines don’t work” elephant in the room with Fauci.
The mods deleted it as being “not appropriate”.
A small setback but immaterial as they still allow me to quote statistics and argue the case against mandatory vaccines, lockdowns, and government over-reach.
It’s a wonderful site but still is stumbling over adherence to the narrative.

Top Ender
Top Ender
December 1, 2021 9:54 am

Janet Albrechtsen has a article over at the Oz about “wages equality”:

Is the Morrison government brave enough to use its announced review of the Workplace Gender Equality Act to abolish this derailed agency, or at minimum fundamentally rein in its powers and purpose? It’s a big ask from a government that runs shy of reforming government-funded social engineers.

It seems that the advocated of “wage equality” want equality of outcomes. You can see where this will lead.

Logically therefore, in this brave new world, a woman who decides to have six children will get the same money – say, over 20 years – as a woman who has had one.

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
December 1, 2021 9:56 am

Speaking of top private schools – what the heck was KK’s son doing going into the police force after graduating from Joeys?
Surely his and her contacts would have placed him in stockbroking, finance, management consulting etc etc.
(emoji-fu fail. Imagine smiley face)

Razey
Razey
December 1, 2021 9:57 am

Rogersays:
December 1, 2021 at 9:42 am
Roger, a livelihood dependant on writing grant applications will do that.

Oh, it starts long before that.

Just try getting through high school these days as a contrarian.

It’s always been like that. But the main driver is the parents attitude. The missus and I are pretty conservative, and the kids seem to be also, at this stage. Even if they go off track at Uni, eventually they come back as they get older. More so now as the left become absolutely nuts and are eating their own.

Top Ender
Top Ender
December 1, 2021 9:59 am

Breaking news:

Multiple people have escaped from the Howard Springs quarantine facility overnight, Northern Territory police have confirmed.

A large police presence descended around the facility on Wednesday morning to undertake a widespread search in the hopes of tracking down the missing people.
It is unclear how many people have escaped, but it has sparked fears the Omicron variant could spread into the Northern Territory community, after public health officials announced a returning traveller tested positive for the new variant on Monday.

The man in his 30s had arrived on November 25 from Johannesburg and had been transported to the facility for isolation.

Northern Territory Police, Fire and Emergency Services told NCA Newswire the operation was ongoing and head checks were underway.

The number of individuals involved in the escape has yet to be confirmed.

The incident is the second time in a week that a returned traveller has escaped from quarantine at Howard Springs. Just last week a 27-year-old male allegedly absconded from the facility and was later found by police on Darwin’s main strip.

In January, a 33-year old woman scaled the fence and walked off but was located by police within 15 minutes.

Indolent
Indolent
December 1, 2021 10:00 am
Indolent
Indolent
December 1, 2021 10:01 am

Proposed amendments to the National Health Act.

lotocoti
lotocoti
December 1, 2021 10:02 am

Latvia’s women’s wendy ball team could’ve used some goal equality.
20-0.

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 1, 2021 10:04 am

Centre for National Resilience not so resilient.

Who thinks up these names? It’s like Gillard never left.

twostix
twostix
December 1, 2021 10:09 am

Howard Springs will be turned into a machine gun guarded concentration camp after this.

Top Ender
Top Ender
December 1, 2021 10:13 am

Knuckles, want to form a quick NT company for the newly beefed up Centre for Lack of National Resilience?

I can go after cornering the market on searchlights, if you do the machinegun stuff. We’ll need a third partner for barbed wire.

JMH
JMH
December 1, 2021 10:19 am

The Australian Parliament votes AGAINST free & informed consent for medical interventions.

Who would have seen that coming? Just another reason NOT to vote for the majors. Stuff them!

Helen Davidson (nmrn)
Helen Davidson (nmrn)
December 1, 2021 10:21 am

Snuck into the ABCs reporting of the Howard Springs breakout…

The Howard Springs facility is currently holding people affected by the NT’s Katherine region COVID-19 outbreak as well as returned travellers from repatriation flights.

I wonder which ones have escaped?

twostix
twostix
December 1, 2021 10:22 am

When is this madness going to end?

there is only darkness I can’t see the end of the tunnel at all.

Four or five years seems to be the historic duration of massive social upheavals.

So you’re almost halfway there, perhaps.

Then again for the average German during their troubles it was like > 15 years. And for the average Russian and Eastern European it was > 50.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
December 1, 2021 10:23 am

Roger, a livelihood dependant on writing grant applications will do that.

One of the more infuriating dollops of nonsense from warmies has always been the assumption that people involved in or in part funded by the fossil fuel industry must be by nature mercenary and by deed lying. They are in it for the money.

No consideration of the possibility that they are doing what they do because they have discovered AGW’s assumptions or predictions are flawed and there is therefore no sin in association with the fossil fuel industry.

But more significantly overlooking other self-serving motivations that humans can be lured by.

Some people just have an appetite for making other people do what they want. They don’t care if they are right. They just have that tyrannical streak.

At the universities there is competition for money. There is also patronage, position, the sudden prominence after years of obscurity, having the naive seek you out and hanging on your every word, right down to good old job security.

Besides, having identified so closely with the cause for, say 10 years, you cannot easily step away. Your last good work was 10 years ago. And in the intervening decade you put about shit. Your prospects would be thin on the ground to say the least.

Warmies are awful people. At one point that had the choice of listening to both sides of the argument and making up their minds, or making up their minds first and only listening to one side of the argument. They opted for the latter. And how did they decide which side? Can’t be by the as yet unheard argument. Some other urge chose one over the other. Whenever they preach warmism it is to satisfy that urge that they will not admit to.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
December 1, 2021 10:26 am

Burnt toast is in the eye of the beholder.

I only have a beam in my eye.

Not one to big mote myself.

Indolent
Indolent
December 1, 2021 10:26 am

The Australian Parliament votes AGAINST free & informed consent for medical interventions.

Who would have seen that coming? Just another reason NOT to vote for the majors. Stuff them!

Craig Kelly gave a brilliant speech and they all had to sit there and listen to him. I hope it burned them up.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
December 1, 2021 10:27 am

Your “love is love” photoshot of the day.

Have I ever posted a dud link before?

No need to thank me.

twostix
twostix
December 1, 2021 10:29 am

Brian Mitchell MP
@BrianMitchellMP
·
Nov 29
The Morrison Government has finally tabled the sitting calendar for parliament in 2022. Between now and August 9 next year there are a total of 10 sitting days.

This is the laziest, most secretive, most untrustworthy and incompetent government in Australian history. #auspol

He’s right you know.

twostix
twostix
December 1, 2021 10:32 am

Scott Morrison has abandoned the Commonwealth to the point where parliament doesn’t even sit anymore.

If he were a chinese stooge tasked with breaking up Australia into small component people’s republics, how would this country look any different right now?

John of Mel
John of Mel
December 1, 2021 10:34 am

Speaking of top private schools – what the heck was KK’s son doing going into the police force after graduating from Joeys?

He will be the commissioner one day. They need the right people in the right places.

John of Mel
John of Mel
December 1, 2021 10:36 am

Multiple people have escaped from the Howard Springs quarantine facility overnight, Northern Territory police have confirmed.

A large police presence descended around the facility on Wednesday morning to undertake a widespread search in the hopes of tracking down the missing people.

My blood boils when I read this. How can people think it’s OK, what they are doing to us???
It’s infuriating.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
December 1, 2021 10:37 am

Everyone is obviously overwhelmed with joy at my love is love link above.

struth
struth
December 1, 2021 10:46 am

This is only the start of what complying will bring us.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
December 1, 2021 10:48 am

Knuckles, want to form a quick NT company for the newly beefed up Centre for Lack of National Resilience?

This would be the gulag people are talking about. There’s a seven foot chain fence around it. No barbed wire. No nothing.

A bloke jumped the fence in the middle of the night the other day, and hopped into a waiting ute before it drove off. He was picked up half an hour later in a pub.

Nelson_Kidd-Players
December 1, 2021 10:49 am

The Morrison Government has finally tabled the sitting calendar for parliament in 2022. Between now and August 9 next year there are a total of 10 sitting days.

If that was entirely devoted to repealing legislation, I could get behind it.

twostix
twostix
December 1, 2021 10:50 am

Meanwhile former World Economic Former guy, Greg Hunt, pushes a bill that makes Frankenstein and Brave New World seem like pikers:

Members of parliament will take part in a rare conscience vote that could legalise a groundbreaking technique to stop babies being born with a debilitating and often deadly disease.

The bill, commonly known as Maeve’s Law, was first introduced to parliament by Health Minister Greg Hunt in March.

It is named after five-year-old Maeve Hood, the daughter of Joel and Sarah Hood, who live in Mr Hunt’s Victorian electorate.

Maeve has a severe type of mitochondrial disease which was diagnosed at 18 months.

If successful the bill would legalise partial DNA donations allowing women whose genes predispose their children to mitochondrial disease to have a biological child who would not inherit that predisposition.

The treatment involves replacing mitochondrial DNA from the mother with healthy mitochondrial DNA from the egg of a woman who is a donor.

On Tuesday, all members who wanted to participate were allowed to make a speech on the bill without a time constraint, in line with conscience vote procedure.

Due to the nature of the legislation involving gene modification, some religious members did not support the bill.

They’re talking about creating hybrid triple parent babies.

Tom
Tom
December 1, 2021 10:50 am

For US politics junkies: now that his brother has been removed as New York state governor (and Donald Trump is no longer supplying CNN;s ratings), CNN has indefinitely suspended Chris Cuomo.

twostix
twostix
December 1, 2021 10:54 am

Careful Victorians, they’re coming for you:

A motion calling for a parliamentary inquiry into the influence of the far-right in Victoria is set to be debated in state parliament.

Greens Leader Samantha Ratnam wants the Legal and Social Issues Committee to investigate far-right extremists and their links to anti-vaccination groups.

Ms Ratnman’s motion will be debated in the upper house on Wednesday and if passed, the committee will investigate the far-right’s methods of recruitment and communication, the risk their actions pose, particularly to Victoria’s multicultural communities, and the potential for targeted violence against politicians and public figures.

It will also explore what steps need to be taken to counter their influence.

You know what that means.

https://au.news.yahoo.com/vic-parliament-debate-far-inquiry-163033737.html

John of Mel
John of Mel
December 1, 2021 10:56 am

Meanwhile former World Economic Former guy, Greg Hunt

A member for World Economic Forum.

Bruce in WA
December 1, 2021 10:59 am

Update

Six hours in isolation ward before seeing a doctor.

Covid test NEGATIVE

Sadly, double pneumonia x-ray POSITIVE.

Still on tiny gurney in isolation waiting to be admitted. It’s now 10 hrs 30 minutes since I presented last night.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
December 1, 2021 11:01 am

Bruce in WA

Im guessing Pleurisy

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/pleurisy/symptoms-causes/syc-20351863

Not much fun treatable.

Top Ender
Top Ender
December 1, 2021 11:01 am

Bruce, for better service, why don’t you say to them you are live-blogging the treatment as you go?

You should at least get some amusing and interesting reactions.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
December 1, 2021 11:03 am

It seems that the advocated of “wage equality” want equality of outcomes. You can see where this will lead.

There are parasites on society who feed on it so greedily and with so little rumination on the consequences of their gluttony that they are killing the host – they just act as if it will be able to feed them forever.

Every regulation that pushes anyone but the best qualified to job (for lack of melanin, of lady parts, or even in these QWERTY soaked days, lack of mental issues, etc) does so at the expense of the additional benefit the best choice would have delivered over the second, the third etc. This might seem not much but through regulation it is repeated everywhere and everywhen. Nationwide. It infiltrates every level where third-rate people administer third-rate people to engage with third-rate people to deliver far worse than third-rate products.

And I am not just being nasty about ‘third rate’. The people being advocated are not the second best choice. Not the ones who got 97% on their final exams nudging a 98% out of the way. These people are being promoted for irrelevancies. And they will be mostly people who are content to play ‘the game’, to trade on their sex (not in the Weinstein way of course) or what nation their parents fled. Think of two woman engineers applying for the same job. The first just pushes her resume. The other pushes her resume but then talks about how the company should employ a woman, about how this will play into certain causes, and the company will be credited for their hiring policies. Which one do you think will win the job? For these third raters doing the job well is of secondary importance.

Then there is the credentialism which freezes in place and elevates a single set of procedures, and replaces performance on a vital task with performance on a standardised test designed so it can be easily tabulated and results published.

Add the sclerotic industrial practices which prevent innovation and efficiency.

And more regulation where mole-blind bureaucrats are alerted to some misconduct, somewhere, by someone, setting new rules binding on everyone, where to avoid a 1% abuse of a practice the 99% judicious use is put out of bounds. So clumsy and unfamiliar with the reality on the ground are they. Risk of throwing the baby out with the bath water? Meh, throw the baby and we don’t have to think about the bathwater tomorrow, or ever again!

All of these are sucking the life out of the economy to the point it cannot replace what it is losing.

But all the parasites see are their own mouthparts and all they feel is the sweet blood. Sure in a bliss that will last forever.

feelthebern
feelthebern
December 1, 2021 11:07 am

It’s kind of ok that Trump was named by the Epstein pilot as being a passenger.
Trump denies it.
FAA records show it didn’t happen.
But unless Trump is mentioned, most wouldn’t know the trial was underway.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
December 1, 2021 11:08 am

One of the more infuriating dollops of nonsense from warmies has always been the assumption that people involved in or in part funded by the fossil fuel industry must be by nature mercenary and by deed lying. They are in it for the money.

My name is Faustus and I’m involved in the fossil fuel industry.

I’ve been involved for more than 40 years. I mainly do it for the money.

I keep trying to stop, but I always get dragged back in because people offer to pay me for my ‘services’.

All kinds of people; rich, poor, well dressed, scruffy, foreigners – at some time I’ve serviced them all. Mostly they pretend to be normal everyday people who just want to turn on their lights and drive their cars.

They disgust me.
I disgust myself.

Slim Cognito
Slim Cognito
December 1, 2021 11:09 am

It’s now 10 hrs 30 minutes since I presented last night.

Sorry to hear it Bruce. Maybe they are busy attending to all the vax injured.
Apparently we are a first world country. You wouldn’t know it these days.

duncanm
duncanm
December 1, 2021 11:11 am

NEW wettest and coolest November evah!

climate

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
December 1, 2021 11:14 am

You should at least get some amusing and interesting reactions.

Just tell them you are a Cat, and if you aren’t treated with due and proper respect, we’ll demolish the hospital, sow the ground with salt and sell the staff into slavery.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
December 1, 2021 11:15 am

They disgust me.
I disgust myself.

There is an widely-honoured rubric for your situation. A little prayer you say to yourself while you are doing your worst. A charm that has stilled the trepidation of movie stars, pop musicians, Presidents and President-aspirants, CEO’s, and Greens:

It is different when I do it.

JMH
JMH
December 1, 2021 11:15 am

It’s now 10 hrs 30 minutes since I presented last night.

All the best, Bruce of WA. An upthread comment is on the money. Tell them you are live blogging your ‘treatment’ under the care of the WA health system!

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
December 1, 2021 11:16 am

NEW wettest and coolest November evah!

climate

Sounds like another Covid variant.

Wally Dali
Wally Dali
December 1, 2021 11:22 am

Bruce, get them to write your mask exemption while you’re at it.
They’ll dig in their heels- so snap a copy of your lung scans.

Baba
Baba
December 1, 2021 11:34 am

Greens Leader Samantha Ratnam wants the Legal and Social Issues Committee to investigate far-right extremists and their links to anti-vaccination groups.

It’s beyond time that Nazi Avi Yemini was subjected to some real scrutiny.

Megan
Megan
December 1, 2021 11:35 am

Scott Morrison has abandoned the Commonwealth to the point where parliament doesn’t even sit anymore.

If he were a chinese stooge tasked with breaking up Australia into small component people’s republics, how would this country look any different right now?

Morrison is the absolute epitome of inept. He consistently demonstrates the enormous damage that can be done when folk have the losing combination of incompetence and low intelligence.
He is surrounded by the equally inept who wont realise what deep trouble they are in until counting starts on election night. Even then they will not be able to figure out who and what hit them. They fully deserve a WA style party obliteration.
I’m more than happy to help them get there.

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 1, 2021 11:36 am

Good luck with the WA health system. My advice is to have something catastrophic and potentially life threatening. And take a book.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
December 1, 2021 11:36 am

NEW wettest and coolest November evah!

Depends where you are.
I’m in FNQ wrapping up a project ahead of the wet. Dry and hot.

I suspect climate intercession by Our Lady of Mandates.

Boambee John
Boambee John
December 1, 2021 11:38 am

H B Bearsays:
December 1, 2021 at 10:04 am
Centre for National Resilience not so resilient.

Who thinks up these names? It’s like Gillard never left.

The bureaucrats of the Deep State are still there, still pulling the strings.

Razey
Razey
December 1, 2021 11:39 am

Megansays:
December 1, 2021 at 11:35 am
Scott Morrison has abandoned the Commonwealth to the point where parliament doesn’t even sit anymore.

If he were a chinese stooge tasked with breaking up Australia into small component people’s republics, how would this country look any different right now?

Morrison is the absolute epitome of inept. He consistently demonstrates the enormous damage that can be done when folk have the losing combination of incompetence and low intelligence.
He is surrounded by the equally inept who wont realise what deep trouble they are in until counting starts on election night. Even then they will not be able to figure out who and what hit them. They fully deserve a WA style party obliteration.
I’m more than happy to help them get there.

You would vote for fukn Labour communist shits?

Top Ender
Top Ender
December 1, 2021 11:42 am

Qld government looks more incompetent day by day….

The reinstatement of a senior health manager accused of calling his staff names like “vinegar tits” and playing a game rating women on whether he’d “root or boot” them shows the Palaszczuk Government is paying “lip service” only to victims of sexual harassment, the Opposition says.

Opposition frontbencher Amanda Camm called for the Health Minister to personally sack the man, or go herself following fury from complainants who felt they had not been listened to in reporting allegations of bullying and harassment.

Health Minister Yvette D’Ath is under pressure to sack a senior health manager accused of calling his staff names like “vinegar tits”. Picture: Jono Searle
Health Minister Yvette D’Ath is under pressure to sack a senior health manager accused of calling his staff names like “vinegar tits”. Picture: Jono Searle
The Courier-Mail revealed last week the Metro North senior manager had been reinstated in a senior role at the state’s biggest public hospital district.

It followed a year-long investigation, sparked when 11 women complained of a toxic culture in which people were allegedly berated in meetings, had things thrown at them, were forced to eat lunch with him, were asked to rate the “hotness” of others and were chastised for “conspiring” just for speaking to colleagues.

There’s another story in the Oz – concerns the government science lab that couldn’t detect DNA in anything – even new blood samples.

pete of perth
pete of perth
December 1, 2021 11:44 am

All the best Bruce. Perhaps McGowan will do a omicron photo op with you pixelated in the background. Fame awaits.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
December 1, 2021 11:44 am

Qld government looks more incompetent day by day….

Queensland voters installed them..

Boambee John
Boambee John
December 1, 2021 11:48 am

twostixsays:
December 1, 2021 at 10:29 am
Brian Mitchell MP
@BrianMitchellMP
·
Nov 29
The Morrison Government has finally tabled the sitting calendar for parliament in 2022. Between now and August 9 next year there are a total of 10 sitting days.

This is the laziest, most secretive, most untrustworthy and incompetent government in Australian history. #auspol

He’s right you know.

Usually, I would say “Good”, because when the Parliament is not sitting, it is dot doing damage. However, our current rulers have shown that they will oppress us without the bother of actually debating laws to do so.

Top Ender
Top Ender
December 1, 2021 11:49 am

The DNA lab that couldn’t:

A pioneer of Australian DNA testing has revealed the serious and systemic failures she saw at Queensland’s government-run laboratory, and called for an independent inquiry involving international experts.

Speaking from the US on Tuesday, Professor Angela van Daal told of her significant concerns about the lab’s handling of cases spanning almost two decades.

Dr van Daal said she raised the concerns with the lab’s then-director, offering her expertise to fix the problems, and was stunned when nothing appeared to be done.

In one instance in 2004, the lab found no DNA in a vaginal sample taken in a rape case, she said. At a minimum, it should have contained the alleged victim’s DNA.

“I’ve reviewed a fairly significant number of cases around Australia and here in the US, and I can’t recall another case where I’ve come across that problem,” she said.

“There needs to be a significant review of the practices of the ­laboratory, the training, the ­quality of the work that’s being produced.

“It needs to be done by probably people outside of the Australian forensic environment – it’s quite an incestuous environment.”

She was speaking for an upcoming episode of Shandee’s Story, the investigative podcast ­series trying to establish why the vicious stabbing murder of 23-year-old Shandee Blackburn in Queensland in February 2013 remains unsolved.

Dr van Daal said the major problems in the lab had continued when she was reviewing cases around 2013 when Blackburn was attacked just 100m from her home in Mackay.

Forensic scientist Kirsty Wright has discovered during investigations for the podcast with The Australian’s Hedley Thomas a litany of serious errors and problems in the lab may have allowed Blackburn’s killer to evade justice.

These include the lab being unable to detect DNA in a fresh pool of blood, or trace DNA of the main suspect in his own car, or any DNA from a sample from Blackburn’s forearm that should have contained many hundreds of her own skin cells.

Link

pete of perth
pete of perth
December 1, 2021 11:50 am

Vinegar tits… do the fact checkers agree?

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
December 1, 2021 11:51 am

Usually, I would say “Good”, because when the Parliament is not sitting, it is dot doing damage.

We all share your exasperation, but lashing out at individual Cat posters so unconnected would seem counter productive.

I still luvs ya, dot.

Nelson_Kidd-Players
December 1, 2021 11:52 am

When we have reason to present to emergency, the first question is public or private? For some things the public option has no option but to get cracking immediately so can be okay, but for others it may be worth going private, even if they want to swipe your credit card first.

The bigger picture is that as little as possible should be ceded to government in all things. We’ve ignored that for perhaps some 150 years and our is now coming to bite us.

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
December 1, 2021 11:54 am

unable to detect DNA in a fresh pool of blood

Were any vampires or extraterrestrials involved?

Franx
Franx
December 1, 2021 11:54 am

BruceWA
All the best, and keep the faith.

Megan
Megan
December 1, 2021 11:56 am

You would vote for fukn Labour communist shits?

Quite the assumption there, deadhead.

twostix
twostix
December 1, 2021 12:07 pm

Morrison has given his premier capo’s the green light to do as they wish from now until next May.

Federal parliament – the people’s parliament, won’t sit he’s promised them – no more uncomfortable media moments of Hanson, etc making a fuss and trying to make him do his job.

Fine. Alone then.

Boambee John
Boambee John
December 1, 2021 12:10 pm

Mother Lodesays:
December 1, 2021 at 11:51 am
Usually, I would say “Good”, because when the Parliament is not sitting, it is dot doing damage.

We all share your exasperation, but lashing out at individual Cat posters so unconnected would seem counter productive.

I still luvs ya, dot.

That’s a very big “OOOOPs from me, and apologies to Dot. It should have been “not doing”.

Razey
Razey
December 1, 2021 12:10 pm

Megansays:
December 1, 2021 at 11:56 am
You would vote for fukn Labour communist shits?

Quite the assumption there, deadhead.

Typical response from rabid leftard Labor voting fuckwit.

areff
areff
December 1, 2021 12:13 pm

The Vic Greens are moving today for inquiry to identify the threat posed by neo-Nazis, white supremacists, far-right elements and anti-vaxxers.

Labor will back it, of course. What of Matthew Guy’s Liberals?

By my book, it’s even-money bet the Liberals will back it too, rather than be accused of encouraging garage Nazism.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 1, 2021 12:18 pm

This will be fun!

UK competition watchdog orders Facebook to sell off Giphy (30 Nov)

The United Kingdom’s antitrust watchdog has blocked Facebook’s acquisition of Giphy and ordered the social network to sell off the GIF-sharing platform, saying the deal hurts social media users and advertisers by stifling competition for animated images.

The Competition and Markets Authority said Tuesday that the deal would let Facebook “increase its already significant market power” by denying or limiting other platforms’ access to Giphy GIFs and driving traffic to Facebook-owned sites.

New York-based Giphy’s library of short looping videos, or GIFs, are a popular tool for internet users sending messages or posting on social media.

Okaaay, the Pommy bureaucracy has decided they want to block a US company from acquiring another US company because they’ve insufficiently kowtowed to faceless Pommy bureaucrats.
Yep, sure to work.

Much as I dislike the Chook, in this case I hope they’ll reply to the UK regulators with a single fingered salute GIF.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 1, 2021 12:27 pm

The Vic Greens are moving today for inquiry to identify the threat posed by neo-Nazis, white supremacists, far-right elements and anti-vaxxers.

We desperately need an inquiry into poltergeists, apparitions and UFOs. If the US can assign a whole department to look for UFOs we should too. And squirrels. Chasing squirrels is really important also, they harbour all sorts of diseases.

Bluey
Bluey
December 1, 2021 12:28 pm

Pandemic bill goes back to the lower house in Vic. Greens crowing about getting lower fines for concession holders and disadvantaged. Sure 10% is a discount, but on 20K that means fuck all.

About the only good thing I can see amended was getting rid of the aggravated offence and the 90K fine/jail time. Authorized officers can still enter your property without a warrant, there’s still next to no accountability, and the government repeatedly admitted they don’t know what they’re doing in administering the bloody thing.
Oh, I suppose there was the tacit admission that any member of Labor swears an oath to always vote the party line.

It still remains a “Emperor Dan” piece of legislation. So heartily hacked off right now.

rickw
rickw
December 1, 2021 12:30 pm

Still on tiny gurney in isolation waiting to be admitted. It’s now 10 hrs 30 minutes since I presented last night.

Do you have pants on? They normally try to add to the frustration and indignity as much as possible!

JMH
JMH
December 1, 2021 12:31 pm

By my book, it’s even-money bet the Liberals will back it too, rather than be accused of encouraging garage Nazism.

Yes – and just one more reason I will not be voting Lib/Nats, Labor or Greenslime at the next State Election, IF we actually have one.

rickw
rickw
December 1, 2021 12:32 pm

Authorized officers can still enter your property without a warrant

They can try to….

twostix
twostix
December 1, 2021 12:32 pm

Parliaments abolished, ultra secret “National Cabinet” running the country from behind closed doors via dictator leaders with individual supreme power and clearly never intending to go back to the way things were.

Nothing to see here, no geopolitical angle, no historic angle, no nothing. Just get your jabby wabby and watch the fwooty.

struth
struth
December 1, 2021 12:33 pm

Sco Mo destroys the federal Parliament as the new government is the communist central committee known as the national cabinet.

rickw
rickw
December 1, 2021 12:36 pm

The Vic Greens are moving today for inquiry to identify the threat posed by neo-Nazis, white supremacists, far-right elements and anti-vaxxers.

Isn’t the level of threat self evident if government has spent two years completely fucking people and nothing has happened?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 1, 2021 12:36 pm

And while I’m here I’ll confirm a hypothesis much discussed this morning, concerning whales.

Allergic conditions linked to lower COVID-19 infection risk (MedXpress, 30 Nov)

A growing body of evidence suggests that at least some risk factors for developing COVID-19 may differ from those which predispose to severe disease and the need for intensive care, say the researchers.

To explore this further and glean what contribution demographic, socioeconomic, lifestyle, diet, medical treatment and underlying conditions might make to the risk of developing COVID-19, the researchers captured detailed information on potential risk factors for the infection among UK adults between May 2020 and February 2021.

Certain factors consequently emerged as being independently associated with increased odds of developing COVID-19.

People of Asian/Asian British ethnicity were more than twice as likely to become infected as their white counterparts.

Similarly, household overcrowding; socializing with other households in the preceding week; number of visits to indoor public places; a people-facing role other than in health and social care; and overweight/obesity were all associated with a heightened risk.,/em>

Yup, whales are indeed prone to bad Covid.

But atopic (triggered by allergens) disease, which includes eczema/dermatitis and hay fever/allergic rhinitis, was independently associated with 23% lower odds of developing the infection than it was in those without atopic disease or asthma.

And among those who had atopic disease and asthma, the risk was even lower: 38%. This association held true even after factoring in the use of steroid inhalers.

Interesting that allergies tend to be protective. That’s plausible. If you’ve seen electron micrographs of pollen some look very like Covid-19 virus particles. Spikey balls. So perhaps there’s a cross-protection due to the immune system hyped to find and kill spikey pollen which also catches and kills spikey Chinese bioweapons.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
December 1, 2021 12:37 pm

ACTU accuses Scott Morrison of stoking division, demonising wharfies

Ewin Hannan
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An hour ago December 1, 2021
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The ACTU has accused Scott Morrison of seeking to stoke politically expedient division and demonise wharfies after he declared the federal government would intervene if there were new strikes on the docks before Christmas.

The peak union body said the government was drumming up division in a bid to shore up its position on the eve of an election campaign.

On Tuesday, Mr Morrison said the government was “keeping a close watch on the potential for industrial ­action to disrupt economic ­activity”, noting that stoppages and bans by maritime union members at Patrick Terminals had been put on hold until at least ­December 10.

“We encourage the parties to this dispute to negotiate in good faith and to resolve their issues to get this sorted,” Mr Morrison said in a speech to the Australian ­Industry Group. “But, at the same time, I want to assure you that our government will take action, if needed, to protect the Australian economy from serious harm.”

His comments suggest the commonwealth will ­intervene in the Fair Work Commission if the union resumes industrial action and Patrick applies to the tribunal to stop it.

In a statement, the ACTU said: “The Prime Minister is seeking to stoke division and to demonise wharfies who have worked tirelessly through the pandemic to keep the Australian economy moving, delivering the big corporations they work for record profits and are asking for basic job security and a reasonable pay rise from a shipping giant”.

ACTU secretary Sally McManus said “the country does not need more division and conflict — we need to be brought together, not pitted against each other”.

“Essential workers did their job around the clock the last two years in the hardest of circumstances,’ she said.

“We want political leaders to recognise this and to understand that it is not reasonable we continue to experience record low wage growth while many big businesses, such as the multinational shipping companies, delivered bumper profits.

“The last thing our country needs is governments wanting to take more rights off working people and siding with foreign multinationals over their own citizens. Instead they should be stepping up and doing the work to change our industrial laws to stop employers turning permanent jobs into casual jobs.“

The ACTU said Australia had some of the lowest levels of industrial action in the developed world and productivity in the ports was consistently above international benchmarks. “Workers at NSW Ports serviced 28 per cent more ships in September 2021 compared to September 2020, without any increase in the number of workers and using the same equipment,” it said.

“Shipping companies meanwhile have used the pandemic to jack up prices and expand their profits.

“Over two years the cost of shipping a 40ft container has increased by approximately 500 per cent. Profits across stevedoring companies increased from an average of 9.9 per cent in 2019-20 to 20.8 per cent in 2020-21.”

Poor underpaid, overworked wharfies…….

Cassie of Sydney
December 1, 2021 12:37 pm

“Babasays:
December 1, 2021 at 11:34 am
Greens Leader Samantha Ratnam wants the Legal and Social Issues Committee to investigate far-right extremists and their links to anti-vaccination groups.

It’s beyond time that Nazi Avi Yemini was subjected to some real scrutiny.”

And that far-right white supremacist Rushkan.

shatterzzz
December 1, 2021 12:38 pm

From the can’t believe my luck .. file! .. 2nd puncture in 3 weeks .. following the 12 kms walk home from Yennora Railway Station 3 weeks ago in a storm .. Today, just past Miller TAFE on Hoxton Park Road and duuuuh! … Sooooo, this time about 20kms home, thankfully, NO rain just overcast & muggy ..
The only good thing to come out of this, getting to regular, strolling habit is that at 73, and just 4 weeks short of 74, I can still trundle fair-ish distances without too much effort .. must be all that practice … pedalling … LOL!
Which allows me to introduce what is fast becoming my personal anthem …….
https://youtu.be/ldQrapQ4d0Y

twostix
twostix
December 1, 2021 12:40 pm

Just riffing:

For the last twenty years the entire political class – particularly the ‘faceless men’ that run the parties, have lived the high life gorging on Chinese provided largess and perks, from small: free lunches and holidays, to large: property and money all the way up to their positions in society, and more.

All they had to do was let Chinese influence into Australia via opening up the investment markets and universities. Nothing major.

Now the Chinese are calling in the favours from everyone.

twostix
twostix
December 1, 2021 12:42 pm

How much of last century was the west’s foreign policy dedicated to preventing shitty low population countries from becoming de facto soviet satellite puppet states via their corrupt governing classes.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
December 1, 2021 12:42 pm

Sex discrimination commissioner finds gender inequality key driver of toxic culture in federal parliament

She’s probably quite right in this instance – but, then, a sex discrimination commissioner could be relied on to find gender inequality to be the fault in a car crash.

But lost in the small print:

As part of overhauling what Jenkins characterised as the “work hard play hard” culture, she recommended parliament develop and implement consistent and comprehensive alcohol policies across commonwealth parliamentary workplaces “with a view to restricting availability in line with work health and safety obligations, and the principle of harm minimisation”.

Parliament would be about the last Australian workplace to provide bar service during working hours – and apparently zero restrictions on people being on site, influencing the Nation under the influence of piss.

WH&S Rules for Us not Them:

• No grog on site.
• If you have a drink off-site for ‘social reasons’, you go home – absence noted.
• Random drug and alcohol testing at the door: one fail = counselling; second fail = up the road.

No doubt Britnee would agree with this…

duncanm
duncanm
December 1, 2021 12:43 pm

shatterzzzsays:
December 1, 2021 at 12:38 pm

take some spare tubes and tyre levers.. flats are inevitable with wet weather.

rickw
rickw
December 1, 2021 12:47 pm

And among those who had atopic disease and asthma, the risk was even lower: 38%.

I get bad hay fever and used to have extremely bad asthma as a kid.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 1, 2021 12:48 pm

ACTU accuses Scott Morrison of stoking division, demonising wharfies

Gosh, criticising Marxist-Leninist MUA wukkas, who make snails look fast and public servants look poorly paid, is divisive? I am speechless. How terrible! They must strike in immediate outrage!! When was Christmas again? Next month? Wow, is that a coincidence or what?

mizaris
mizaris
December 1, 2021 12:50 pm

Watching a Danish series called The Rain. Scary that this was made well pre covid but the premise, language and actions totally mirror the lies and scaremongering that’s going on with covid.

Razey
Razey
December 1, 2021 12:50 pm

dover0beachsays:
December 1, 2021 at 12:49 pm
Virginia Nicholls
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A 25-year-old Sydney man suffered a brain haemorrhage 30 mins after his 2nd Pfizer jab & can now no longer speak, eat or breathe on his own. Tube fed, brain shunts & tracheotomy. Unrelated to the vaccine, of course.

It’s just anxiety.

rickw
rickw
December 1, 2021 12:51 pm

Parliament would be about the last Australian workplace to provide bar service during working hours – and apparently zero restrictions on people being on site, influencing the Nation under the influence of piss.

A friend pointed out today that after 24hours of debate, they were at equivalent to a BAC of 0.1%, twice the legal limit. They’re basically legislating drunk even without alcohol.

Cassie of Sydney
December 1, 2021 12:52 pm

“Labor will back it, of course. What of Matthew Guy’s Liberals?

By my book, it’s even-money bet the Liberals will back it too, rather than be accused of encouraging garage Nazism.”

You know, if the Victorian Liberals and their leader, Groundhog Guy, had any balls….which of course they don’t….they would call Ratnam’s bluff and agree on the condition that any proposed investigation and inquiry also looks into far-left and Islamist groups…such as Socialist Unity, Antifa and Hizbut Tahrir.

But we know that won’t happen.

Razey
Razey
December 1, 2021 12:52 pm

I fear that the government and 80% of the sheep can remain psychotic longer than I can remain solvent.

I think I’ll wait till the election before making the final decision to leave the country for good.

Mak Siccar
Mak Siccar
December 1, 2021 12:55 pm

Walked past the protesters on the steps of the Victoriastan parliament about two hours ago. About 40 or so scattered about. A loud siren going continuously to remind the traitors inside of their guilt. Gave them thanks and encouragement. Well done them. Will now check for updates on the progress of this crap Bill. Now checked in to the hotel room while Mrs M S undergoes eye surgery this arvo. Beer o’clock!

shatterzzz
December 1, 2021 12:56 pm

take some spare tubes and tyre levers.. flats are inevitable with wet weather.
Carrying all the paraphanalia, spanners, levers, spare, pump, ect … just adds weight & I ride, almost, everyday.. realistically, I expect it too happen, maybe, once a year NOT twice in three weeks .. duuuuh!

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 1, 2021 12:57 pm

From the can’t believe my luck .. file! .. 2nd puncture in 3 weeks

Shatterzzz – Paper staples and bindies aren’t your friends. Don’t ride near schools since the roads get bits of paper staples on them from the endless use of the things, which are shed by the garbage trucks when the skip bins get collected. I worked this out after many many punctures.

And Chinese tubes are so thin these days that bindi-eyes can go right through tyres and tubes. So I use a one size up tube and avoid riding on grass.

rickw
rickw
December 1, 2021 1:00 pm

Bugger! Garage machine shop capacity down 50%, snapped a belt on one of the mini lathes!

Materials orders inbound to address shortages. Bunnings search engine clearly designed by Pfizer. It doesn’t work….

flyingduk
flyingduk
December 1, 2021 1:02 pm

A 25-year-old Sydney man suffered a brain haemorrhage 30 mins after his 2nd Pfizer jab & can now no longer speak, eat or breathe on his own. Tube fed, brain shunts & tracheotomy. Unrelated to the vaccine, of course.

I’m sure its nothing

shatterzzz
December 1, 2021 1:03 pm

No doubt Britnee would agree with this…

Considering Britnee should never have been admitted into the building at that time of night regardless of her condition or intent there seems to be a lot of taxpayer money being spent on enquiries that do nothing to lock staff who shouldn’t be there out ..
There should be NO alcohol in Parliament House anyway! .. It’s a place o, supposed, WORK not leisure .. contrary to, majority, opinion .. LOL!

shatterzzz
December 1, 2021 1:05 pm

For those who luv choo choos .. bit of nostalgia .. LOL!

https://ibb.co/7kPBQ8K

Old bloke
Old bloke
December 1, 2021 1:07 pm

Greens Leader Samantha Ratnam wants the Legal and Social Issues Committee to investigate far-right extremists and their links to anti-vaccination groups.

The Greens are concerned as they are loosing some of their constituents to the UAP. Craig Kelly said that some former Greens have joined the UAP, probably due to its anti-mandatory vaccine policy. The anti-vaxxers, the “true” anti-vaccine people (not just those opposed to the non-vaxxs presently on offer), were typically associated with the Greens.

Chris
Chris
December 1, 2021 1:08 pm

Bugger! Garage machine shop capacity down 50%, snapped a belt on one of the mini lathes!

Use the old trick.

Darling! The fan belt snapped! Quick, take off your pantyhose or we will be stuck all night…

Razey
Razey
December 1, 2021 1:18 pm

Old blokesays:
December 1, 2021 at 1:07 pm
Greens Leader Samantha Ratnam wants the Legal and Social Issues Committee to investigate far-right extremists and their links to anti-vaccination groups.

The Greens are concerned as they are loosing some of their constituents to the UAP. Craig Kelly said that some former Greens have joined the UAP, probably due to its anti-mandatory vaccine policy. The anti-vaxxers, the “true” anti-vaccine people (not just those opposed to the non-vaxxs presently on offer), were typically associated with the Greens.

The thing is, us freedom fighters, cannot be pigeon holed into a single group. We are from all walks of life.

Anecdote from QLD (this is real). A whole doctors surgery has closed down until further notice as 12 staff refused the clot shot.

Don’t you vaxers understand? We must ALL band together and REFUSE all mandates and coercion. We must take back the country! You might agree at the moment, but just wait till they bring out something you DONT agree with. What will you do then?

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
December 1, 2021 1:23 pm

Carrying all the paraphanalia, spanners, levers, spare, pump, ect … just adds weight…

Try tyre liners.
Cycling the Brisbane river loop on the shittest of road surfaces I was getting a flat about once a month. None for the past 12 months since installing cheapy polyurethane liners – about $20 for 2.

(Still carry gas+tube+levers. Total weight ~200gms)

Chris
Chris
December 1, 2021 1:25 pm

Sadly, double pneumonia x-ray POSITIVE.

FMD Bruce, you are doing it tough. Don’t flop around feeling sorry for yourself, get well soon!

Mak Siccar
Mak Siccar
December 1, 2021 1:29 pm

From the dash Cat. Love it!

Dictator TaliDan more than qualifies!

Bazinga says:
December 1, 2021 at 12:52 am
Can we add Menglemaniac to the catictionary? Definition: tyranic dictators who ignore the Nuremburg code. RE: mandatory covid vaccinations

struth
struth
December 1, 2021 1:38 pm

Should it be Mengelemaniac though?

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