Open Thread – Weekend 18 Dec 2021


The Ambassadors, Hans Holbein the Younger, 1533

1,007 responses to “Open Thread – Weekend 18 Dec 2021”

  1. Ed Case Avatar
    Ed Case

    We will have to wait for statistical analysis of excess deaths to get any clue other than the anecdotal as to if giving vaxxed to those outside vulnerable groups was something we mostly got away with or an utter disaster.

    Sure, but if the Vaxx is killing healthy people, no matter the numbers, what sense is there in injecting the chronically ill with it?

  2. Dr Faustus Avatar
    Dr Faustus

    An ad running on one of the FTA or Fox channels implores women to stop drinking as soon as they start trying for a child.
    Government over-reach in spades.

    An awkward one.
    Obviously the correct and automatic response to Nanny Government finger-wagging is ‘fuck right off’.

    However, given the awful bastards have taken financial responsibility for the life outcomes of the personally irresponsible, a certain amount of targetted nagging is possibly warranted.

  3. Ed Case Avatar
    Ed Case

    All you need is some olive oil in the pan

    Very poor advice, since Olive Oil has one of the lowest Smoke Points.
    Dripping is best, Lard is next, all you need is a smear.
    Why pay thru the nose for a steak, then use the cheapest ingredients to sear it?
    Not having a go at you in particular, but it sounds like4 you’re Larping as a Steak Expert rather than speaking from experience.

  4. cohenite Avatar
    cohenite

    Very poor advice, since Olive Oil has one of the lowest Smoke Points.

    Great trolling you twit. Olive oil doesn’t mask flavour, it enhances it and also preserves the juice of the steak.

    Admit you idiot, you’re a vegan.

  5. johanna Avatar
    johanna

    Top Ender says:
    December 19, 2021 at 11:02 am

    Well Cats, I’m going to keep the monicker Top Ender, but Mrs TE and I are out of Darwin as of midday today.

    Time to relocate to a house we have in NSW – actually a suburb of Canberra called Jerrabomberra.

    Welcome, neighbour-to-be. Mind you, I’d argue that Jerra (as it is known locally) is definitely a suburb of Queanbeyan – a very upmarket one at that! 🙂

    The current weather should make you feel at home – hot and steamy with torrential rainstorms now and then.

  6. Rabz Avatar
    Rabz

    Yes, what we need in this country is a Star Chamber.

    Another one? We’re neck deep in them as it is.

    Typically, morristeen and his muppets are busy trying to set up another one.

    Which will of course, inevitably come for them while leaving labore and the greenfilth alone.

  7. lotocoti Avatar
    lotocoti

    Only racists say the celestials don’t do quality work.

  8. Roger Avatar
    Roger

    Another one? We’re neck deep in them as it is.

    It’s insidious.

    If the woman has a criminal complaint her solicitor should be telling her to go to the police.

  9. JC Avatar

    Alright cigarillos then. And look what you’ve done, fucking ed opining about choice steaks. Fuck off ed and eat your gruel in the corner.

    Okay, fair enough, but he has to have an opinion about everything. Don’t blame if he busts the door down wanting to talk about cooking steak.

    One way to cook meat. My ma used to cook it this way.
    Have your dentist/butcher slice some porterhouse, very thinly cut (almost as thin as veal schnitzel). Prepare a concoction of olive oil, dice some garlic, with oregano and mix it together. When the meat is barbecued, spread it over the meat cutlets. It’s a delicious way to eat meat.

  10. Boambee John Avatar
    Boambee John

    Makkasays:
    December 19, 2021 at 10:28 am
    But no-one asks them.

    Or their families. The fascist media are more concerned about “protecting our heroic front line elf workers”.

    Except the ones who were sacked for refusing to be “jabbed”.

  11. Roger Avatar
    Roger

    Only racists say the celestials don’t do quality work.

    If only the Feds had allowed Dan Xi-man’s deal to go ahead Victorians could soon be enjoying such quality infrastructure at discount prices.

  12. Ed Case Avatar
    Ed Case

    Olive oil doesn’t mask flavour, it enhances it and also preserves the juice of the steak.

    Someone’s been pulling you leg, cobber.
    Dripping is Beef Fat, that’s the white covering on your Viking Steak.
    The idea behind Searing is to seal off the cut surfaces and trap the moisture inside.
    Burning Olive Oil won’t do that,.
    You can turn the heat down to stop the Olive Oil going up in smoke, but then you’re cooking the outside of your steak rather than searing it and you might as well give the mess to the dog.

  13. Roger Avatar
    Roger

    The fascist media are more concerned about “protecting our heroic front line elf workers”.

    Except the ones who were sacked for refusing to be “jabbed”.

    Good meme on that in today’s WIP.

  14. JC Avatar

    Cassie of Sydney says:
    December 19, 2021 at 11:14 am

    “JC – I never appreciated his shtik,”

    I don’t care about Noth’s shtick. What I care about is the presumption of innocence. So, are all men now guilty until proven innocent?

    Cassie’s back to normal. Good to see.

  15. Bruce of Newcastle Avatar
    Bruce of Newcastle

    Pestilent disease apocalypse news.

    Omicron variant rips across NSW as state records more than 2,500 COVID-19 cases (Sky, 19 Dec)

    New South Wales has recorded another daily increase in COVID-19 cases numbers with 2,566 new infections on Sunday.

    Health officials say the Omicron variant of concern is “likely” accounting for the majority of cases across the state.

    Hospitalisations and intensive care remain relatively low, with 227 people currently being treated in hospital – an increase of 21 from the day earlier.

    There are currently 28 patients in ICU.

    Not looking anything like a 12 Monkeys scenario. The pale horse guy should hand in his saddle and boots and become a nun.

  16. Ed Case Avatar
    Ed Case

    I don’t care about Noth’s shtick. What I care about is the presumption of innocence. So, are all men now guilty until proven innocent?

    So stop worrying.
    Noth’s still got the Presumption of Innocence, his Schtick, and the best lawyers money can buy.

  17. JC Avatar

    Headcase

    His career is now ruined by accusations. How would you like it? STFU. Sexual assault accusations belong in the confines of a police station – not splashed over the media.

    Ed Case fondles cats. Prove it’s not true.
    Go!

  18. Rex Anger Avatar
    Rex Anger

    You can turn the heat down to stop the Olive Oil going up in smoke, but then you’re cooking the outside of your steak rather than searing it

    How moronic can a mutton-eating troll get?

    To sear a piece of meat by necessity involves cooking the outside of it!

    What are you trying to do, Grigory? Stop your warble fly larvae escaping?

  19. Sancho Panzer Avatar
    Sancho Panzer

    JCsays:

    December 19, 2021 at 10:48 am

    Ed Case says:
    December 19, 2021 at 10:46 am

    You’re paying $69/Kilo because it’s been Aged at 2 degre

    How the fuck would you know? You’re a steak aging expert now?

    Well, he has had mum’s body in the basement cooler for 15 years, so …

  20. JC Avatar

    Thanks Sanchez, there’s that now.

  21. Old School Conservative Avatar
    Old School Conservative

    Top Ender is a lot easier to say than Jerrabomberra Ender.

  22. cohenite Avatar
    cohenite

    Ed Case fondles cats

    And eats celery, gruel and kale.

  23. Megan Avatar
    Megan

    KD, you’re spot on, once broken it’s near impossible to put a family back together and even if everyone tries hard it will never be the same.

    The level of family destruction and the trashing of tradition is despicable and continuing, thanks to the cockroach class of bureaucrats and politicians in this once great country.

    Families, a bit like that huge old pottery teapot of Gran’s, can survive the occasional chip to the spout or crack in the lid. Battered, repaired but still stuck together and functioning.

    But what has happened, in my family as well as yours sfw, is like dropping the Waterford crystal bowl on the floor. Even if you could stick it back together it will be an exceedingly painful exercise, require time and effort, look nothing like once did and will be a perpetual reminder of the damage done.

    Your mum is a superstar in this imbroglio. It’s a crying shame that she has to make this choice but it says everything that she will not support segegration or exclusion.

  24. JC Avatar

    Top Ender is a lot easier to say than Jerrabomberra Ender.

    How about 1/2 way Ender?

  25. rickw Avatar
    rickw

    I view it as revelling in having a walk on part in a global drama.
    And, if their back story is compelling enough, a speaking part.

    Yep, politics is what people to do when they’re to ugly for acting.

  26. calli Avatar
    calli

    The small circle of family and friends I mix with are almost more scared of Omicron being benign than any wuhan flu risk peddled to them so far.

    Something I’m seeing too.

    They like the drama of it. Probably because they’ve never been really afraid in their lives and think this is it.

    They’re wrong.

  27. rickw Avatar
    rickw

    Auspost is definitely not going to deliver the Little Blokes Christmas present in time. Went to shopping centre, all the toy shops are ravaged, bare shelves everywhere!

    Walking past QB books and spotted a pile of meccano type toys. From the CCP so it consisted of tanks and anti-aircraft guns, in amongst the pile was a quite decent set for building a meccano hawker hurricane (sort of), phew!

  28. GreyRanga Avatar
    GreyRanga

    Top Endersays:
    December 19, 2021 at 11:02 am
    Well Cats, I’m going to keep the monicker Top Ender, but Mrs TE and I are out of Darwin as of midday today.

    Time to relocate to a house we have in NSW – actually a suburb of Canberra called Jerrabomberra.

    Back in the Top End in February for several events associated with the 80th anniversary of the bombing raid – I have a new book about the attack aimed at upper primary/lower secondary coming out, for one.

    Hopefully we will be far enough away from some of the loonier aspects of Covid down south.

    The last month has been full of the more horrible aspects of moving, so will be a relief to get on the big white bird, even though Box City awaits next week.

    TE, Jerra is a suburb of Queanbeyan. It used to be bogan tradie central. Now Multi Millionaire Tradie Central.

  29. Ed Case Avatar
    Ed Case

    His career is now ruined by accusations. How would you like it? STFU. Sexual assault accusations belong in the confines of a police station – not splashed over the media.

    He’s a fairly well known Public Figure, so it’s news.
    At the moment it’s an accusation, nothing more.
    Can the Man In The Street work that out?
    Yeah.
    Can the Village Idiot?
    Perhaps not, but you’re worried about what conclusions the Village Idiot might draw over these accusations?
    That’s a new twist on
    “Think of the Children”, i’ll give you that.

    Ed Case fondles cats. Prove it’s not true.

    Why?

  30. lotocoti Avatar
    lotocoti

    Probably because they’ve never been really afraid in their lives and think this is it.

    It’s a long time since everyone knew someone who had been torpedoed, shot down or blown up.
    Nowadays it’s a cousin’s Facebook friend knows someone who…

  31. Mark from Melbourne Avatar
    Mark from Melbourne

    Top Ender is a lot easier to say than Jerrabomberra Ender.

    From Johanna’s comments, it would seem that TE has swapped the literal top end for the “top end” of Queanbeyan.

  32. Bruce of Newcastle Avatar
    Bruce of Newcastle

    TE has swapped the literal top end for the “top end” of Queanbeyan.

    Where even the outdoor thunderboxes are gold plated!

  33. Rex Anger Avatar
    Rex Anger

    Can the Village Idiot?

    You clearly think there’s something to it, Grigory (Why else have you kept on about it?).

    And you are about as close to a Village Idiot as the Cat has ever had.

    Mind you, we don’t care what you, as a Village of Village Idiots think. We care that you’ve decided to open your mouth. So we will beat you until you get the hint, shut up and go away…

  34. duncanm Avatar
    duncanm

    Dr Faustussays:
    December 19, 2021 at 10:08 am

    thanks good Doc.

  35. Zipster Avatar
    Zipster

    google has buried: https://www.skirsch.com/covid/MoreHarm.pdf

    could only find it by going through my history

  36. Zipster Avatar
    Zipster

    Your mum is a superstar in this imbroglio. It’s a crying shame that she has to make this choice but it says everything that she will not support segegration or exclusion.

    these problems started when parents allowed outsourcing children’s education to the state. Once upon a time the parents and grandparent’s knew best, now the younger generation fawn over bugmen and politicians.

  37. Roger Avatar
    Roger

    could only find it by going through my history

    Well worth it after a quick scan of the contents.

    Thanks!

  38. Tom Avatar
    Tom

    Laughed out loud at 11.57am. Good to have you back, Sancho — one of the DoverCat’s great Mexicans.

  39. rugbyskier Avatar
    rugbyskier

    TopEnder, welcome to the ‘hood. I’ll shout you a coffee at Suppeto. When was the last time you were in Jerra? Things have changed a bit there in the past couple of years there’s now an Aldi, KFC and Maccas and work will start on the new high school in the new year.

  40. Walker Avatar
    Walker

    Masks to be mandatory indoors in Tasmania from Tuesday.

    “We wear those ridiculous Christmas party hats you get out of the bon-bons. I can’t see why we wouldn’t wear masks” Tasmanian Director of Public Health, Mark Veitch

    Seriously?

  41. GreyRanga Avatar
    GreyRanga

    Anyway TE I welcome you as a neighbour.

  42. Timothy Neilson Avatar
    Timothy Neilson

    However, given the awful bastards have taken financial responsibility for the life outcomes of the personally irresponsible, a certain amount of targetted nagging is possibly warranted.

    Given the premise yes, Dr F, but as a Commonwealth, State and local taxpayer I’d be happy for that driver of nagging to be abolished.
    Difficult call I know when the sins of the parents are being visited upon the children, but the current regime of OPM-funded 100% underwriting of “imbecilic” (in the old fashioned legal sense) irresponsibility is clearly societally destructive.

  43. Zipster Avatar
    Zipster

    The idea behind Searing is to seal off the cut surfaces and trap the moisture inside.

    it’s a disproven myth, searing doesn’t trap any moisture inside.

    searing just adds flavour by the Maillard reaction.

  44. Zipster Avatar
    Zipster

    Masks to be mandatory indoors in Tasmania from Tuesday.

    buggery on thursday and euthanasia pods by next month.

  45. GreyRanga Avatar
    GreyRanga

    Had a call from No.2 son, wife’s got the coff, he hasn’t, Christmas at their place cancelled. Wasn’t she jabbed? A very sheepish yes. How come you haven’t got it. I made these comments coz she’s a smug lefty but my son luvs her.

  46. Ed Case Avatar
    Ed Case

    …searing just adds flavour by the Maillard reaction.

    Searing temp is at least 220 c., Maillard reaction cuts out at 190 c.
    Try again.

  47. Sancho Panzer Avatar
    Sancho Panzer

    Ed Case fondles cats. Prove it’s not true.

    Why?

    Who knows why you fondle cats.

  48. rugbyskier Avatar
    rugbyskier

    TE, Jerra is a suburb of Queanbeyan. It used to be bogan tradie central. Now Multi Millionaire Tradie Central.

    Used to be ADF Central with hundreds of DHA homes, still lots of ADF members living there in their own homes but DHA has sold up now and building out at Googong. You’re probably right about the tradies, there’s lots of Hiluxes and Ford Rangers around there. It just joined the list of suburbs around Australia to have a median house price over $1 million.

    Jerrabomberra is one of the few polling booths in Canberra/Queanbeyan to consistently vote for the Coalition rather than Labor. Not that means anything these days with the Coalition being Labor-lite.

  49. rugbyskier Avatar
    rugbyskier

    Anyway TE I welcome you as a neighbour.

    Looks like there’s a few QPRC resident Cats.

  50. Gilas Avatar
    Gilas

    For those who want answers from the Pfizer CEO:

    Lex Fridman asked…

    Comments are very instructive.

  51. Zipster Avatar
    Zipster

    Good to know who’s giving the orders.

    you can ask that about the entire lets go brandon administration

  52. GreyRanga Avatar
    GreyRanga

    rugbyskiersays:
    December 19, 2021 at 12:58 pm
    Anyway TE I welcome you as a neighbour.

    Looks like there’s a few QPRC resident Cats.

    Sad to say a member of the Carnbra plutocracy.

  53. calli Avatar
    calli

    Via DashCat via Michael Smith News…

    The perfect Christmas gift for Victorians

    And you thought 2021 couldn’t get weirder…

  54. rugbyskier Avatar
    rugbyskier

    Sad to say a member of the Carnbra plutocracy.

    Look on the bright side, at least you’ve avoided the vaccine passport crap.

  55. Anchor What Avatar
    Anchor What

    I haven’t seen Eyes Wide Shut or Love Actually, but might give the first one a go to see if JC’s assessment of the naked girls is correct.

  56. Zipster Avatar
    Zipster

    Searing temp is at least 220 c., Maillard reaction cuts out at 190 c.

    yawn. the meat does not jump to 220C, it goes through a range of temps, the water vapourises quickly above 100C leaving the proteins and sugars to undergo maillard. if you want to see the surface temp of meat cooking use a non contact thermometer.

    I have no idea what your point is anyway…. or what it has to do with searing locking in juices.

  57. Zipster Avatar
    Zipster

    Why are they freaking out and attempting to lockdown the entire planet when Omicron has killed less than 10 people worldwide?

    its conditioning for blind compliance

  58. incoherent rambler Avatar
    incoherent rambler

    a light sprinkling of gypsum on both sides

  59. calli Avatar
    calli

    Indolent says:
    December 19, 2021 at 1:09 pm

    Sounds like good news to me, and makes perfect sense.

    As pointed out, the movers and shakers don’t like good news. And we even know why.

  60. Sancho Panzer Avatar
    Sancho Panzer

    callisays:

    December 19, 2021 at 1:08 pm

    Via DashCat via Michael Smith News…

    The perfect Christmas gift for Victorians

    And you thought 2021 couldn’t get weirder…

    There is a large frump who used to turn up to my favourite café with a Brett Sutton tote bag and a downtrodden husband.
    Since retired but she would talk loudly of her stellar paper-pushing career in a public service far, far away.
    I would talk equally loudly to the café owner (an avid Dan despiser) about the many failings of the useless regime.

  61. rickw Avatar
    rickw

    The perfect Christmas gift for Victorians

    And you thought 2021 couldn’t get weirder…

    Not a cult at all…..

  62. Ed Case Avatar
    Ed Case

    yawn. the meat does not jump to 220C, it goes through a range of temps, the water vapourises quickly above 100C leaving the proteins and sugars to undergo maillard.

    Searing only takes 90 seconds a side and it doesn’t happen at Maillard Reaction Temps.
    More Googlin’ required on your part, i’m afraid.

  63. Zipster Avatar
    Zipster

    Searing only takes 90 seconds a side and it doesn’t happen at Maillard Reaction Temps.
    More Googlin’ required on your part, i’m afraid.

    you still have no point that I can see. what exactly is your point? are you claiming the browning of meat is not maillard, that juices are sealed in? or just scrambling to rescue whatever lost credibility you can muster?

  64. P Avatar
    P

    New York State Assembly Advancing Legislation to Create Involuntary COVID Quarantine Camps
    December 18, 2021 | Sundance

    The bill is obtuse in the extreme and grants the state permission to remove and detain someone defined as “a significant threat to public health.” Those of you who have watched the creation of Quarantine Camps in Australia; and those who noted the ongoing activity in Australia seems designed to be a beta test for the USA; will quickly see the common thread with this proposal in New York.

  65. Roger Avatar
    Roger

    There’s only one way to resolve this…

    Steak knives at 10 paces.

    Go!

  66. Zipster Avatar
    Zipster

    Omicron, Cold symptoms
    Dr. John Campbell

  67. Wally Dalí Avatar
    Wally Dalí

    Maillard Reaction only applies to duck fat.

  68. dover0beach Avatar

    Gray Connolly
    @GrayConnolly
    ·
    25m
    I never want to hear about the power of “Big Pharma” (& efficacious vaccines!) ever again when all of the media energy is behind either Covid paranoia or Anti-Vax lunacy. We have vaccines that work – very well on the evidence so far – and very few if any in media can admit this

    The ‘pox on both their houses’ faction. It’s a little bit weird.

  69. Zipster Avatar
    Zipster

    New York State Assembly Advancing Legislation to Create Involuntary COVID Quarantine Camps

    not building hospitals, but concentration camps. the real agenda is becoming harder to hide

  70. Top Ender Avatar
    Top Ender

    Now on big white bird, having been at cleaning duties in our friend’s unit until the last minute. According to SWMBO, things were “filthy” although they looked ok to me.

    Last in Jerra 15 years ago, and yes Queanbeyan was indeed bogan central then. Immediate plans are garden duties; I have two books to write in four years, and will be starting a wargaming group.

  71. Rex Anger Avatar
    Rex Anger

    or just scrambling to rescue whatever lost credibility you can muster?

    Grigory lost the argument the moment he started commenting on the matter. Projecting at you and pretending you are the ‘at-fault’ or ‘toxic’ party is his take on spazzing out at you. He does it to me all the time. I consider it a counter-trolling badge of honour… 🙂

  72. Rex Anger Avatar
    Rex Anger

    starting a wargaming group.

    What’s yer poison?

    (Granted I am on totally the wrong side of the world, but still curious)

  73. rickw Avatar
    rickw

    Marine vet interview, Tarawa, Saipan, Tinian:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJXmODLj1yE

  74. Dot Avatar

    He was cleared on a Legal Technicality, by the way.

    Yes, he was found NOT GUILTY the first time around.

    You fascist imbecile.

  75. JC Avatar

    Go woke, go broke doesn’t apply here.

    Harvard, Yale, Other Ivies Report Near-Record Numbers of Early-Admission Applications

    Early-admission applications to some of the nation’s most selective colleges remained near historic highs this year, as the admissions process for those institutions continues to shift into high gear earlier and grow more uncertain for applicants and schools.

    Applications for binding early decision or more flexible early action programs jumped last year at schools including Harvard University and Brown University as anxious high-school seniors embarked on a chaotic admissions cycle. Schools ditched testing requirements, placed campus visits on hold because of the pandemic and are still sorting through whether students who deferred enrollment from the prior year would take away spots from the coming class.

  76. Ed Case Avatar
    Ed Case

    Whatever else we disagree on: if you are remotely sensible politically, you have a duty, where the vaccine efficacy evidence verges on the overwhelming, to push back equally against both the anti vax lunatics/grifters & the media’s rampant Covid hysterics still stuck in 2020.

    Making sense of Gray Conolly’s comments is like trying to focus on a yo-yo in flight.
    In other words a waste of time.
    There’s much to be said for Nietsche’s claim that teaching most people to read wasn’t for the best.
    I’d say he was right.
    Without indiscriminate teaching of reading, shills such as Connolly would hafta get a real job.

  77. Winston Smith Avatar

    China Is Laughing: As US Military Begins Purging The Unvaxxed – US Air Force is Polling Its Remaining Members On “Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion” Logos

    Insanity.
    Biden and his criminal cohort is destroying the US.

  78. Rex Anger Avatar
    Rex Anger

    Making sense of Grigory’s comments is like trying to focus on a yo-yo in flight.
    In other words a waste of time.

    Fixed for Grigory…

  79. Ed Case Avatar
    Ed Case

    Yes, he was found NOT GUILTY the first time around.

    Cosby faced 2 Trials.
    The first was a Civil Trial in which he agreed to pay his accuser’s Costs plus Compensation on the understanding that there wouldn’t be Criminal Proceedings.
    That was agreed to by the Court, it cost Cosby a huge sum.

    Criminal charges were later filed, Bill Cosby was found Guilty on many Charges, and jailed.
    An Appeal was mounted by Cosby against that Verdict on the basis that the Agreement made ending the Civil Trial was enforceable, so Cosby couldn’t be Tried in Criminal Court.
    The Appeals Court agreed.

    A Legal Technicality is what freed him, he was very likely to have raped multiple white women and gotten away with it.

  80. Tom Avatar
    Tom

    Bugger. Sideways weather front through southern Vicco (gusty WSW winds and rain) just momentarily knocked out my Foxtel satellite signal. Even though the cricket in Adelaide is done and dusted, I’d hate to miss a Kerry O’Keeffe rhyming slang classic, like describing a “five-for” just now as a “Michelle”.

  81. rugbyskier Avatar
    rugbyskier

    Last in Jerra 15 years ago

    Oh, you’ll really notice the changes then, before you even get into the suburb. Lanyon Drive and Tompsitt Drive are now dual carriageway with traffic lights, there’s the new business park being built on the way in. Serious about a welcome coffee at the local cafe, happy for Dover to give you my email.

  82. areff Avatar
    areff

    …grants the state permission to remove and detain someone defined as “a significant threat to public health.”

    This is already on the books, as Typhoid Mary might attest. She was locked up for the public good on an island in the East River until she died.

  83. Sancho Panzer Avatar
    Sancho Panzer

    Cassie.
    I prescribe some Big Pharma coupled with traditional Jewish medicine.
    Crush two Endone into a bowl of warm chicken soup.
    Take as required.
    (Disclaimer – I may not be a doctor).

  84. Ed Case Avatar
    Ed Case

    I think Bill Cosby had a short lived Talk Show back in the early Seventies.
    Anyway, Groucho Marx, who was about 80 then and contrary, was a guest and he displayed obvious contempt for Bill Cosby.
    At the time it appeared unfair for Groucho to treat Cosby like that, but remember that Groucho, Zeppo and Gummo were all Hollywood Agents, so if Cosby had been doing bad things to aspiring talent way back then, they probably woulda heard all about it.

  85. duncanm Avatar
    duncanm

    Are you people arguing about how to cook a steak?

    The above should be instructive.

  86. Rex Anger Avatar
    Rex Anger

    A Legal Technicality is what freed him, he was very likely to have raped multiple white women and gotten away with it.

    Got something to back the slur, Grigory?

    I think Bill Cosby had a short lived Talk Show back in the early Seventies.

    And? Your point being? So what if the Marx brothers didn’t think highly of Bill Cosby. It does not support any one of your gypsum-smeared contentions or defamatory comments regarding the man.

    Now fuck off and smoke your nuclear reactor chamber.

  87. rosie Avatar
    rosie

    I like Gray, and I agree wholeheartedly with his objections to extremists at both end of the covidmania spectrum.

  88. areff Avatar
    areff

    Tom,
    that front made record time from your place to mine. Bucketing down here amid big winds.

  89. rosie Avatar
    rosie

    Strenuously avoiding qr coding during the countdown to Christmas.
    Why would you risk being forced to isolate?

  90. Ed Case Avatar
    Ed Case

    No, we’re not arguing over how to cook a steak.
    What i’m saying is “You can’t sear a steak using Olive Oil.”
    Yeah, you can use Olive Oil, but it won’t sear the steak, which is what you want.

    Someone else brought up the Maillard effect, which kicks in at between 140 c and 185 c.
    That’s far below stovetop temps required to sear a steak.
    So, the first guy was misinformed, the second guy just plucked the Maillard Reaction out of the air and tried to run with it.

  91. cohenite Avatar
    cohenite

    Viking steak.

    Vegan trolls

    The choice is simple folks. Meat of the Gods or meatheads.

  92. Fat Tony Avatar
    Fat Tony

    Winston Smith says:
    December 19, 2021 at 2:05 pm
    China Is Laughing: As US Military Begins Purging The Unvaxxed – US Air Force is Polling Its Remaining Members On “Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion” Logos

    Insanity.
    Biden and his criminal cohort is destroying the US.

    That’s why the Deep State + CCP made him president.
    Loot it & root it.

  93. cohenite Avatar
    cohenite

    Yeah, you can use Olive Oil, but it won’t sear the steak, which is what you want.

    That is serious bullshit.

  94. MatrixTransform Avatar
    MatrixTransform

    best Chrissy present ever … the Lansky

    excellent choice
    how did you know to get me that?

    treat yourself

  95. Top Ender Avatar
    Top Ender

    What do you know – Qantas has free wifi and it works at 35,000 feet.

    Hey rugbyskier, will take you up on the coffee this week if OK….my private email is talewis@bigpond.com

  96. dover0beach Avatar

    I like Gray, and I agree wholeheartedly with his objections to extremists at both end of the covidmania spectrum.

    I like Gray too, but the ‘extremists’ of one side are the government, the media, Big Tech, the academy, etc., and they have adamently maintained the vaccines work even as they have redefined work.

  97. Winston Smith Avatar

    Aaron:

    I haven’t seen Gov advice or health tips regarding smoking, drinking, exercise or diet tips being shown on TV and yet it’s jab, jab and jab again.

    What we are seeing is a medical form of the hysteria of the Dancing Plague which occurred in the 14th – 17th centuries in Europe.

  98. Old School Conservative Avatar
    Old School Conservative

    Great article by Janet Albrechtson in The Oz talking up Perrottet’s conservative credentials. She succeeds, by measuring his conservatism against Morrison. In the Kingdom of the blind…….

    A couple of interesting points from her piece:
    * Alan Jones’s new digital program that aired on Monday night crashed night from the sheer weight of people on their devices – around 350,000 of them – trying to tune into an unfiltered Jones.
    * Perrottet has proven himself to be the sole political leader in Australia willing to step in front of, rather than hide behind, health bureaucrats.
    * Perrottet is the sole leader, state or federal, most likely to hold his nerve in the face of Omicron.
    * Perrottet’s position is high-risk, high-reward. It is also rare and courageous leadership in this country.

    Morrison is portrayed a as a weak, vacillating conservative leader.
    Well written Janet.

  99. hzhousewife Avatar
    hzhousewife

    TopEnder, if you are in the air right now heading for nsw, check the weather map ……..

  100. srr Avatar
    srr

    With the open boasting of detention camps being built around the world I’d say, ‘How to cook steak’, is the least of worries … maybe, ‘How to make grubs palatable’ … ‘How to run an in camp black market without getting shot’ … ‘So you complied all the way, but still ended up in Covid Gulag; How do you survive all the other other inmates who warned you this would happen’ …

    Funny, before Wu Flu, I couldn’t buy or read a complete, unabridged, ‘Gulag Archipelago’, anywhere online.

    Since Wu Flu, it’s everywhere … yeah I know, we should have all studied it from it’s first printing, but didn’t, so here we are, ha ha … it really is a sinister sense of humour our electronic overlords have…

  101. Winston Smith Avatar

    rickw:

    Fascists surrounded in London:

    Good work. They’ve figured out the answer to ‘kettling’. Mob the coppers and release their captives.
    The issue will be when it gets taken too far and the coppers get bashed.
    So the question now is “What are the Brahmin Class going to order next?”
    If it’s more of the same, then that’s what will eventuate, and I reckon they will love for a copper to get really hurt so they can double down.
    Expecting the politicians to wake up before that occurs is asking too much – the collective ego will not allow that to happen.

  102. C.L. Avatar
    C.L.

    I like Gray, and I agree wholeheartedly with his objections to extremists at both end of the covidmania spectrum.

    When somebody starts taking refuge behind a Pox On Both Their Houses, it usually means one of the houses was formerly their principal domicile and now they’re ashamed of the address.

    The other handy piece of polemical kit is post hoc ergo propter hoc.
    The vaccs “work,” he claims, because hospitalisations are down following mass vaccinations.
    First, all viruses bell curve down eventually. Second, there is now so much natural immunity in populations that all high vaccination rates do – conceivably, all they were meant to do – is camouflage that reality.

  103. Rex Anger Avatar
    Rex Anger

    So, the first guy was misinformed, the second guy just plucked the Maillard Reaction out of the air and tried to run with it.

    Grigory finally realising the magnitude of its latest failure. Point the grubby finger, whine snottily through tear-filled eyes and run away to sulk.

    Before it finds something else to try and grief us with…

  104. Rex Anger Avatar
    Rex Anger

    With the open boasting of detention camps being built around the world I’d say, ‘How to cook steak’, is the least of worries … maybe, ‘How to make grubs palatable’ … ‘How to run an in camp black market without getting shot’ … ‘So you complied all the way, but still ended up in Covid Gulag; How do you survive all the other other inmates who warned you this would happen’ …

    Would you prefer an erudite and considered discussion on the finer points of pizza decoration and flavouring with shaved Red Shoes instead, Mrs Faulty?

  105. Winston Smith Avatar

    Indolent:
    You thought it couldn’t happen in the US?
    Because they were protected by their Constitution and Bill of Rights?
    You didn’t count on having a Supreme Court full of Leftists!
    https://thenationalpulse.com/news/new-york-legislation-provides-for-indefinite-detention-of-unvaccinated-at-governors-whim/

  106. Winston Smith Avatar

    Rabz:

    It will be peculiar spending Christmas alone except for the cat.

    I don’t even have a cat. Looks like it’s just the lorikeets and noiseys for Christmas company. That’s if they turn up.

    I can send you some of mine, Rabz.
    Would the giblets suffice?

  107. Boambee John Avatar
    Boambee John

    Searing only takes 90 seconds a side and it doesn’t happen at Maillard Reaction Temps.
    More Googlin’ required on your part, i’m afraid.

    Mr Ed acknowledges his source.

  108. duncanm Avatar
    duncanm

    Morrison is portrayed a as a weak, vacillating conservative leader.

    fact-check. True.

  109. Wally Dalí Avatar
    Wally Dalí

    First, all viruses bell curve down eventually.
    Usual viral activity on a population- ramps high quickly, diminishes steadily- is described as Gompertz decay.

  110. Goanna Avatar
    Goanna

    Regarding the police surrounded by an angry and united mob in England.

    From Neil Oliver on 4,12,21 GBNews.
    ‘Governments amount to hundreds, while we amount to millions.’

    “ It’s a box I think they always planned to open eventually. It was always and only a matter of time, a matter of when. But, I say again that it is not all bad news, because the contents of that box – that box in which lies the ultimate say over own bodies, our children’s bodies, our freedom to live our lives unmolested – are dangerous for all.
    Because once that box is fully opened, the masks – and I don’t mean the trillions of strips of plasticised fabric presently littering the streets, hanging from trees and fences, sinking into our oceans and choking the life out of wildlife – I mean the masks disguising totalitarians as democrats and liberals … will finally be off.
    And that, emerging as though from chrysalis as a fully-fledged totalitarian, takes some nerve.
    As they do say, you can’t ride two horses with only one backside. If our elected representatives open that box, the days of masquerading as freedom-loving, liberal-minded public servants, the trustees of generations of democracy, will be over, for ever. Once that box is open, once we step over that edge, there will be no going back for anyone.”

  111. Wally Dalí Avatar
    Wally Dalí

    I think. I admit I’ve just googled it, the Gompertz Curve is not what I thought that it was.
    But, it mightily impressed a SA Chinese Malay GP whom a mate of mine was bonking on the rebound.

  112. Winston Smith Avatar

    Top Ender:

    Time to relocate to a house we have in NSW – actually a suburb of Canberra called Jerrabomberra.

    OK – we’ll give you a 20 minute warning before we nuke the place.

  113. Rex Anger Avatar
    Rex Anger

    Obvs, even the end-of-the-world the Omnicon strain is not as dangerous as the threat of anti-vaxx harassment from science-denier far right extremist anti-vaxxers.

    Skeletor says it best:

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_-04_frVkcY

  114. dover0beach Avatar

    Obvs, even the end-of-the-world the Omnicon strain is not as dangerous as the threat of anti-vaxx harassment from science-denier far right extremist anti-vaxxers.

    They write an article about fears that anti-vaxxers would harass those getting tested and then you read the comments and people are replying with ‘how dare antivaxxers harass these people’ or characterizing passports, etc. as ‘encouragement’ not ‘harassment’. The media have been ginning up hatred of the unvaxxed for months now. It’s been unrelenting.

  115. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha Avatar
    Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Sixth child dies after Hillcrest primary school jumping castle tragedy
    Nicholas Jensen
    Reporter
    32 minutes ago December 19, 2021

    A sixth child has died following the tragic incident at the Hillcrest primary school in Devonport, Tasmanian authorities say.

    “It is with a heavy heart that I can confirm an 11-year-old boy passed away in hospital this afternoon,” Commissioner Darren Hine said on Sunday afternoon.

    The child’s name is Chace Harrison.

    Authorities said nine children had been seriously injured in Thursday’s incident, after a “freak tornado” threw a jumping castle 10m in the air.

    Two children remain in critical conditions at the Royal Hobart Hospital, a third is now recovering at home.

  116. Rex Anger Avatar
    Rex Anger

    They write an article about fears that anti-vaxxers would harass those getting tested and then you read the comments and people are replying with ‘how dare antivaxxers harass these people’ or characterizing passports, etc. as ‘encouragement’ not ‘harassment’. The media have been ginning up hatred of the unvaxxed for months now. It’s been unrelenting.

    It’s utterly insane.

  117. calli Avatar
    calli

    It’s the usual pattern. “Fears” and “calls” and “urging” are expressed for a non-existent problem in order to mask reality.

    Which is that it’s the reluctant who are being marginalised and harassed by both government and their mouthpiece – the media.

    Soon, beating up the unclean will be seen as a righteous act.

    All been done before.

  118. calli Avatar
    calli

    And Rex, it isn’t insane. It’s calculated wickedness. It has a purpose.

  119. Old School Conservative Avatar
    Old School Conservative

    Nice work from Greg Sheridan in The Oz.

    This week our blighted age, challenged world and disenchanted civilisation received an enchanting Christmas present from the Holy Land.

    The University of Haifa announced a new discovery of an ancient synagogue in Migdal. In biblical times this area was Magdala, home of Mary Magdalene.

    Migdal is on the northwest shore of the Sea of Galilee. The newly discovered synagogue dates from the first century, the time of Jesus. It is yet another archaeological discovery that bears out the historical accuracy of the Gospels and the New Testament generally.

    Quite a long article but worth the effort.

  120. Top Ender Avatar
    Top Ender

    Thanks hzhousewife – when we left the ACT 15 years ago it was on permanent water restrictions. Looks like it is Flannerying down.

  121. calli Avatar
    calli

    The other day I watched The Remains of the Day. Some of you may know it for Anthony Hopkins’ superb performance as a man who commits emotional suicide.

    What struck me was the utter reasonableness of the flirtation with the Nazis, down to offering dinner parties, conferences and other gestures of friendship. And the utter expendability of the servant class, particularly the refugee girls. Meanwhile, Nazi visitors were casing and cataloguing the place for treasurer to loot later on.

    Our chattering classes are like his Lordship – they think they are the “movers and shakers”. They are as expendable as those they are now putting between the crosshairs.

  122. Bruce of Newcastle Avatar
    Bruce of Newcastle

    The vaccs “work,” he claims, because hospitalisations are down following mass vaccinations.

    CL – Yeah, saw that too. It’s like saying because global temperature has risen CO2 is the reason. It ignores the many other concurrent variables, like better primary treatment methods, less panicked referral to hospitals and, as you mention, lower virulence. Which is clearly the case with delta and now even more so with omicron.

    But yes I agree that the vaccines work, sort of. With lots of very serious injuries and deaths. They work for about four months on the data, maybe five, then you are back to square one. Even worse after about 8 months it seems from the Swedish data you become more vulnerable than if you never had been vaccinated in the first place. Hence the squawking from our pollies this last week that you should get a booster if it has been 5 months since your second dose. Boosters4evah isn’t going to sit well with the public. I think Mr Connelly is wrong in this one.

    Btw, this:

    NSW considers shortening Covid booster shot interval to four months as Omicron spreads (17 Dec)

    New South Wales health officials are considering breaking with commonwealth advice by shortening the Covid vaccine booster interval to four months, amid concern about spread of the Omicron variant.

    Yep, they know the data same as we Cats do, and they also know the punters will go postal if told they have to have a booster 3 times a year. So they’re gaslighting carefully, so carefully, to soften them up.

  123. Runnybum Avatar
    Runnybum

    Strange post BoN, you say the jabs work then go on to say they don’t?

  124. calli Avatar
    calli

    Runny, the jabs work…a little bit. Dr Faustus has crunched the figures (if I have got what he’s saying right).

    They offer a teeny tiny window of protection. And then, poof! It’s gone. And they seem to be ineffective against Omicron.

    Which is good, in a way. We’ll all get the wretched thing, survive and then the fauxdemic is over.

  125. 132andBush Avatar
    132andBush

    The “vaccines” are a therapy, not a vaccine, Runny.

  126. calli Avatar
    calli

    And now we’re left with a poop-load of Pfizer and the rest that doesn’t make a dent in the new mutation.

    Fancy that.

    I think we should pump the lot into the people who ordered it. Waste not, want not.

  127. JC Avatar
    JC

    Does anyone know if Pharma firms are going to receive blanket legal protection for the next stage vaccines?

  128. Ed Case Avatar
    Ed Case

    Yep, they know the data same as we Cats do, and they also know the punters will go postal if told they have to have a booster 3 times a year. So they’re gaslighting carefully, so carefully, to soften them up.

    No one’s going Postal in Australia, Bruce
    However, should any rando Postalling occur, our Overlords have defence Treaties with Indonesia.
    Let’s see how the Posties handle a visit from The Kopassus.

  129. Bruce of Newcastle Avatar
    Bruce of Newcastle

    Strange post BoN, you say the jabs work then go on to say they don’t?

    Runny – There is this dimension called “time”. It flies, apparently. The problem is the current vaccines do not work for long. Unlike fluvax, which works for a year of more (I think two or three on my own experience) and others like tetanus which works for ten or twenty years.

    I think the pharma companies did well. But what was thought to be the Big One turned out to be maybe only twice as bad as the flu initially, and now is nearly par with a cold (speaking of omicron, from what I’m seeing so far). Unfortunately after they got all excited and started selling humungous quantities of test kits and vaccines the money factor kicked in. Very hard when vast floods of dosh are arriving into your corporate account to say “well it ain’t as bad as we thought, you can all go back to your previous business”. So I think the process has become corrupt even though I think it was initially laudable.

    Also keep in mind the health bureaucrats have been sitting on these pandemic plans ever since movies like Contagion came out. So when the crud arrived they pulled out their great works of art and put them into practice. Now they find it was all over the top and unnecessary, but that’s very hard to walk back from.

  130. Runnybum Avatar
    Runnybum

    Calli, seems to me they had a big smile & offered lots of incentives, free beer, free sporting tickets, free pizza & even free money (hoho).
    Now that shit hasn’t been fully taken up the threats have started, concentration camps for the unpoisened.
    It seems very odd to me that these threats are happening around the western world at the same pace.
    TBH, the various governments have never really given a fuck about my personal well-being & now they do?
    Bollocks

  131. Indolent Avatar
    Indolent

    The perfect Christmas gift for Victorians

    And you thought 2021 couldn’t get weirder…

    His head on a plate would do me.

  132. Runnybum Avatar
    Runnybum

    132, I never call them vaccines.
    Head Prefect of course they will be exempt.

  133. Ed Case Avatar
    Ed Case

    Does anyone know if Pharma firms are going to receive blanket legal protection for the next stage vaccines?

    They’ve got it for all Covid/19 Vaccines forever.
    According to some sources, Big Pharma US is refusing to supply Vaxxes for Illegal Immigrants.
    So i guess Legal Protection only extends as far as Legal Citizens.
    Which could imply that there’s a Vial Of Vaxx with your name on it.

  134. Dot Avatar

    The first was a Civil Trial in which he agreed to pay his accuser’s Costs plus

    Which is no admission of guilt.

    Then:

    A criminal trial, not guilty.
    A second, unconstitutional criminal trial, falsely imprisoned.
    Thirdly, released pending a successful appeal.

    …and no more civil suits.

    Uh oh Ed! Can’t have that narrative messed up! Taxpayer money must flow into the welfare industry.

    Votes must go to the “correct” party. Anyone who threatens this order must be dealt with!

    You Hollywoodsexual weirdos really think you are “Da resistance” but at the same time want to use unrestricted lawfare to destroy any non establishment candidate.

  135. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha Avatar
    Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Texas takes over building Donald Trump’s US-Mexico border wall

    Adam Creighton
    Washington Correspondent
    0 minutes ago December 19, 2021
    232 Comments

    Donald Trump’s controversial border wall with Mexico, which Joe Biden cancelled in one of his first decisions as President, is under construction again after a flood of unauthorised immigrants across the southern US border compelled Texas to finish the job.

    The second most populous state, whose long border with Mexico meant it bore the brunt of unauthorised arrivals, began building the wall on Saturday, six months after announcing the plan, amid a year-long standoff with the Biden administration over immigration.

    “Texas is taking what truly is unprecedented action: a state to build a wall on our border, to safeguard the sovereignty of our state and of our nation,” Republican Governor Greg Abbott said in Rio Grande City in front of construction crews and huge steel wall panels.

    “This is needed for one single reason: because the Biden ­administration has failed to do its job as required by the constitution, as required by laws passed by congress, to enforce the immigration laws of the US.”

    The southern border has ­become a political deadweight for Democrats, the White House and in particular the popularity of Vice-President Kamala Harris, who the President in March appointed “border tsar” to find solutions to the influx.

    National polls show the southern border consistently to be among Americans’ top few concerns.

    The number of unauthorised border crossings last month rose 5 per cent to 173,620, dashing hopes the steady monthly ­decline that began in July, when arrivals reached a record high of 214,000, would continue.

  136. Dot Avatar

    Strange post BoN, you say the jabs work then go on to say they don’t?

    Which ones?

    The evidence shows Covaxin & Novavax (and Sputnik) are much more effective (and more safe) than the three available vaccines here in Australia (as well as Johnson & Johnson).

  137. calli Avatar
    calli

    C.L.’s blog is worth a look. He’s been on fire the last couple of days.

    Go just for the topic headers. Stay for the opinions! 😀

  138. Ed Case Avatar
    Ed Case

    A criminal trial, not guilty.

    The Jury was deadlocked 11-1 for a conviction.
    Bill Cosby has never been found to be Not Guilty in any Trial.

    A second, unconstitutional criminal trial, falsely imprisoned.

    The State was entitled to pursue a Conviction, the Evidence was overwhelming.

    Thirdly, released pending a successful appeal.

    No, he was doing Time when the Appeal verdict came in, looks like he got away with it.

    By the way, why is this matter such a huge issue for you?

  139. Runnybum Avatar
    Runnybum

    Dot, the conjob virus has a very low death rate & mostly harmful in the elderly & very ill.
    So why have a jab that seems like a game of Russian Roulette?

  140. C.L. Avatar
    C.L.

    Does anyone know if Pharma firms are going to receive blanket legal protection for the next stage vaccines?

    They could poison to death a kindergarten class with battery acid in Martin Place and they wouldn’t even be charged for littering.

  141. Sancho Panzer Avatar
    Sancho Panzer

    The Jury was deadlocked 11-1 for a conviction.
    Bill Cosby has never been found to be Not Guilty in any Trial.

    Anything but 12-0 to convict is not guilty.
    “Innocent until proven guilty”.
    The “until proven guilty” requires 12-zip.
    Dickhead.

  142. Vicki Avatar

    Apparently, rapid antigen tests are selling out.

    I can testify to that – as we try to renew our supply of the kits every time we return to Sydney, before we see our injured grandson.

    As an aside, we had our first “scare” (as unvaxxed) when a friend seems to have passed her “cold” on to us when visiting. I was fine, with little adverse response, but my husband came down more severely – sore throat, fatigue, runny nose – though no loss of taste or smell. But it was after the sore throat went away that things got interesting. One afternoon his chest became very tight & he showed significant distress. We had already administered two Rapid Antigen Tests & both proved negative.

    But he was clearly ill & not getting better. This was in spite of us following the “protocol” of FLCC & others of Vit C, VitD3, Zinc, & Quercetin when we could get it – or CoQ10 when he couldn’t.

    I decided to put him on as high a dose of Aspirin as recommended to bring down inflammation as I was concerned about the 8th day phenomenon when cytokine reaction begins. That is, of course, if it WAS a Covid variant of some sort. That was an unknown. We didn’t have any corticosteroid tablets, but I realised that husband had a steroid application in his broncho-dilater (for asthma/hay fever) – so he began to use the “puffer”.

    After a bad night, during which he woke every four hours at which time we repeated the aspirin/cortico steroid) the next day he was immeasurably better & seems progressing rapidly in the 24 hours since.

    Phew! we were very reluctant to go to a doctor – since they send you straight to ER – a hospital where I would be prohibited as being unvaxxed. It was a real reminder of how vulnerable we are & how important it is to have considered possibilities before they arise.

    Who knows if he had Omicron which the Rapid Antigen may not detect? Or he may just have had a bad reaction to that particular corona cold virus. Either way, I am happy for the trial run, in a way – certainly before Christmas! It is also useful to now realise what we should always have on hand.

    BTW he had another Rapid Antigen Test this morning – still negative. I might note I also re-looked at the human equivalent dosage for Ivermectin “pour-on” & found some baby oil (which they use in Zimbabwe to mix with the IVM) – just is case…….

    I will be drenching the cows with Ivermectin early in February (as a prelude to possible Bovine Ephemeral Fever season next year) ….lucky bastards!

  143. Ed Case Avatar
    Ed Case

    Dot misleads:

    The first was a Civil Trial in which he agreed to pay his accuser’s Costs plus

    Which is no admission of guilt.

    … plus huge Compensation to the complasinants [or victims, if you like].
    No, but if your driving down1,000 mile Innocence Road heading for Guilt, the Cosby Black Maria got a flat tire 4 feet from Guilt.

  144. Ed Case Avatar
    Ed Case

    Dot frantically Googlin’ Black Maria to see if there’s a Raaaaaycism Gotcha in there somewhere.

  145. Dot Avatar

    No, he was doing Time when the Appeal verdict came in, looks like he got away with it.

    He did prison time for something the State Supreme Court said the prosecution violated his constitutional rights to get.

    That is not getting away with it.

  146. Dot Avatar

    Ed Case is a shakedown merchant.

    You sicken me, you disgusting freak.

  147. Winston Smith Avatar

    Rex Anger:

    Grigory finally realising the magnitude of its latest failure. Point the grubby finger, whine snottily through tear-filled eyes and run away to sulk.

    He does this continually. Takes a contrarian position on something and disrupts the blog.
    He then runs up and down his rabbit holes and then when enough people have answered his Pied Piper routine, leaves and comes back the next day.
    Rinse and repeat.

  148. JC Avatar
    JC

    Every single word is correct

    Statement by Donald J. Trump, 45th
    President of the United States of
    America
    All the Democrats want to do is put people in jail.
    They are vicious, violent, and Radical Left thugs.
    They are destroying people’s lives, which is the only
    thing they are good at. They couldn’t get out of
    Afghanistan without disgracing our Country. The
    economy and inflation are a disaster. They’re letting
    thugs and murderers into our Country-their DA’s,
    AG’s, and Dem Law Enforcement are out of control.
    This is what happens in communist countries and
    dictatorships, and they don’t think they’ll be held
    accountable for rigging the 2020 Presidential
    Election. The Jan. 6 Unselect Committee is a coverup
    for what took place on November 3rd, and the
    people of our Country won’t stand for it.

  149. Rex Anger Avatar
    Rex Anger

    No one’s going Postal in Australia, Bruce

    Wrong, Grigory.

    Comrade Sneakers in WA has closed his Rockingham office because his staff was threatened. And 2 young folk have just faced Court, having phoned up the man and threatened to behead in. On top of the folks nabbed at Sneakers’ place of residence, trying to physically threaten similar.

    But given his tendency to do this, are we surprised?

    Sneakers is not seen or heard of very much these days.

    This nearly-naturalised Sandgroperstani opines that Sneakers can very clearly hear (and even see) the cracking of the ice he is walking on, but feels a need to keep going towards the thinner stuff anyway. Pride goeth… and that sort of thing.

    However, should any rando Postalling occur, our Overlords have defence Treaties with Indonesia.
    Let’s see how the Posties handle a visit from The Kopassus.

    Get off the gypsum, Grigory. It’s worse for you than Red Shoes on pizza for srr…

  150. Dot Avatar

    Pretty funny having Google Garry talk about Googlin’ when he is quoting entire slabs of text from what I presume is Wikipedia.

    It doesn’t matter if I was wrong and Google Garry googled’ the trial outcomes. He advanced his argument one step and brought it back two.

    Both trials were not illegitimate, they were not fair trials.

    He was tried twice unfairly.

    If the State can get away with this, they can put anyone they like in gaol.

    “The State had a right to prosecute…”

    No, clearly it did not.

    That’s okay. The left have Saint George Floyd Kirby now.

    If you don’t like riots, arson and looting on black communities, you’re racist.

    Apparently.

  151. Rex Anger Avatar
    Rex Anger

    He then runs up and down his rabbit holes and then when enough people have answered his Pied Piper routine, leaves and comes back the next day.
    Rinse and repeat.

    More ridicule and universal declarations of “Fuck Off, Grigory!” required…

  152. Ed Case Avatar
    Ed Case

    Trump cried ” Follow me, we’re marching on The Capitol!”
    Then snuck away like a Weasel Withn A Combover while his followers marched to their doom.
    Anyone taking Trump seriously since then deserves all he gets.

  153. Ed Case Avatar
    Ed Case

    It doesn’t matter if I was wrong

    You are wrong and it does matter.
    Otherwise, I wouldn’t waste my time talking to you.

  154. Frank Avatar
    Frank

    We’ll all get the wretched thing, survive and then the fauxdemic is over.

    I pray that you are right, but fear that you are not. About it being over afterwards that is.

    Here in Tasmania the Premier let it be known that all cases henceforth would be Omicron. Methinks he overestimates his own influence over things somehow. The cynic might note that this serves to load the adverse reactions to the previous more serious variants onto the Omicron strain.

  155. Rex Anger Avatar
    Rex Anger

    He does this continually. Takes a contrarian position on something and disrupts the blog.
    He then runs up and down his rabbit holes and then when enough people have answered his Pied Piper routine, leaves and comes back the next day.
    Rinse and repeat.

    Case in point…

    You are wrong and it does matter.
    Otherwise, I wouldn’t waste my time talking to you.

    #FuckOffGrigory

  156. Dot Avatar

    Ed Casesays:
    December 19, 2021 at 6:10 pm
    Trump cried ” Follow me, we’re marching on The Capitol!”

    Good lord you’re such a lying shit.

    Trump told people to stay home, big tech censored him!

  157. C.L. Avatar
    C.L.

    Great wifing, Vicki! 🙂

  158. Rex Anger Avatar
    Rex Anger

    You are wrong and it does matter.

    Grigory has another broken clock moment…

    …Referring to his moronic troll self.

    Fuck Off, Grigory.

  159. calli Avatar
    calli

    Fear not, Frank!

    The Climate Cocktails are the next drinks lined up on the bar, ready to kick in s9me time next year.

    They just have to get over all the frozen people in Europe, Britain and North America first, then wait for a Big Heatwave. Looks like Australia won’t be playing along this time and burning down.

  160. Rex Anger Avatar
    Rex Anger

    Looks like Australia won’t be playing along this time and burning down.

    “Fuck you, mate! I’ll drown myself instead!”

    – Australia, Summer 2021-22

  161. H B Bear Avatar
    H B Bear

    Groogs on the red cordial today.

  162. Dot Avatar

    You are wrong and it does matter.

    I am overall correct.

    What I was incorrect about is inconsequential because what you defended in light of the correct chronology was even worse you totalitarian imbecile.

    It does matter because you tried to defend running two unfair trials.

    This doesn’t matter to you? Must be great always presuming you will never face an implacable opponent with a virtually unlimited budget and a legal monopoly on coercion.

  163. Ed Case Avatar
    Ed Case

    Trump held a counter rally while Brandon was being Inaugrated, he whipped up his supporters, then snuck away like Jubilation T Cornpone.
    To the warm embrace of Stormy Daniels?
    Alas, we’ll never know for sure.

  164. Rex Anger Avatar
    Rex Anger

    Fuck off Grigory

  165. Dot Avatar

    Trump held a counter rally while Brandon was being Inaugrated, he whipped up his supporters, then snuck away

    Brandon was inaugurated on 6 Jan? Or the FBI and fascist Capitol cops let a riot run for 14 days?

    Or is this irrelevant bullshit?

  166. Cassie of Sydney Avatar
    Cassie of Sydney

    “Alas, we’ll never know for sure.”

    There’s one thing we know for sure which is that you’re a Dick Ed.

  167. Rex Anger Avatar
    Rex Anger

    Or is this irrelevant bullshit?

    I cannot give you enough thumbs up…

    #FuckOffGrigory

  168. Dot Avatar

    To wit: although after the fact, Cosby still had his right to not be tried twice for the same crime ultimately protected; given the first trial violated his constitutional rights, and gave rise to a double jeopardy protection thereafter.

  169. rugbyskier Avatar
    rugbyskier

    Cassie, good to see that you must be getting better judging by your last post.

  170. calli Avatar
    calli

    Cassie, the other barrel please.

    When one just isn’t enough.

  171. Ed Case Avatar
    Ed Case

    Double Jeopardy only applies to Murder.
    Cosby made a Corrupt Deal in the Civil Trial and an Appeals Court upheld that Deal.
    It’s called Judge Made Law and ought to be Illegal.
    Take a Poll of Commenters here and see how many put their hand up for Cosby’s innocence.

  172. calli Avatar
    calli

    Don’t go too far, mind. 😀

  173. Sancho Panzer Avatar
    Sancho Panzer

    A criminal trial, not guilty.
    A second, unconstitutional criminal trial, falsely imprisoned.
    Thirdly, released pending a successful appeal.

    …and no more civil suits.

    Similar to Pell:-
    A commital which should have been turfed.
    A skewed criminal trial, falsely imprisoned.
    An appeals court which dropped the ball.
    Finally released after a successful High Court appeal. And despite the 7-Nil decision to acquit, arseholes still call that a “technicality”.

    Oh yes … and after 18 months the much vaunted civil cases have not materialised.

  174. Rex Anger Avatar
    Rex Anger

    Cassie, the other barrel please.

    When one just isn’t enough.

    Only one other barrel, Calli?

    #SaulHathSlainHisThousands…

  175. Rex Anger Avatar
    Rex Anger

    Take a Poll of Commenters here and see how many put their hand up for Cosby’s innocence

    I have a better idea!

    How about a Poll of Commenters who would prefer you to

    Fuck Off, Grigory

  176. Bruce of Newcastle Avatar
    Bruce of Newcastle

    Pestilent plague-beset Ncl news.

    1 IN 10 NOVOCASTRIANS SWABBED AS COVID OUTBREAK GROWS (Ncl local news, 19 Dec)

    Oh no, another 712 new plague carriers detected in Newcastle area today. Although the footage of Newcastle beach at 1:10 in the video suggests Novocastrians aren’t exactly tearing their hair out in psychic agony.

  177. Dot Avatar

    Double Jeopardy only applies to Murder.

    No.

    Just shut up.

    The law has no exceptions in America for different classes of crimes.

    NSW changed the law in the noughties, Boob Carr inspired police state Laura Norder nonsense.

  178. Rex Anger Avatar
    Rex Anger

    Good on Arky for paying attention.

    He can blame me for getting the thread closed, but at least the ‘correct handle’ Ed Case is not going to clog another thread with off-topic and unnecessarily contentious nonsense…

  179. calli Avatar
    calli

    Novocastrians aren’t exactly tearing their hair out in psychic agony.

    Steeltown vs. Stealtown?

  180. Dr Faustus Avatar
    Dr Faustus

    C.L. says:
    December 19, 2021 at 3:43 pm

    The other handy piece of polemical kit is post hoc ergo propter hoc.

    True. And the possibility of a post hoc fallacy can conveniently be used to avoid having to confront the vaccines dundoshit argument with objective data. (Here, UK data.)

    The vaccs “work,” he claims, because hospitalisations are down following mass vaccinations.

    Covid hospitalisation in the UK is certainly down, by a factor of five+ from 12 months ago. Within the age groups most at risk of serious outcomes (ie the 60+), the raw data says the unvaccinated are over three times more likely to end up in critical care, or dead.

    First, all viruses bell curve down eventually.

    True too. Hopefully what we are seeing with omicron.

    Second, there is now so much natural immunity in populations that all high vaccination rates do – conceivably, all they were meant to do – is camouflage that reality.

    The UK data, based on analysis of blood donations for Covid-specific antibodies, says ‘natural immunity’ averages ~22% (15% to 30%) of the UK adult population (figures 11 & 12). A long way away from having any epidemiological significance.

    On the other hand, vaccine and natural antibodies are now detected in ~98% of the population. So it’s certainly hard to claim the vaccines “work” by preventing transmission of the pox.

    But equally hard to support a post hoc ergo propter hoc
    argument in favour of dundoshit.

    The evidence seems to be pointing increasing firmly to vaccines as an annual/biannual option for the elderly/comorbid who prefer not to risk the consequences of a serious Covid infection.

    Everyone else can just get on with it exactly as they see fit.

  181. cohenite Avatar
    cohenite

    Anyone taking Trump seriously since then deserves all he gets.

    Anyone not taking Trump seriously gets fucktards like you and the turd beetles hanging onto the biden corpse. You’re a shitty troll. You put up the odd reasonable comment and then flash your detritus.

  182. calli Avatar
    calli

    On the other hand, vaccine and natural antibodies are now detected in ~98% of the population.

    It would be great to have some sort of mechanism to detect what has been achieved by vaxxes and what was already there.

    The only proof is the human petri dish of the Diamond Princess, which suggests 80% of us were already a-okay.

    And our very own Rickw, of course.

  183. Rabz Avatar
    Rabz

    Friends – a brief wrap up of this afternoon’s shenanigans.

    The six of us managed to somehow magically communicate with the areff – those funny li’l black mirror glass things have wondrous powers, apparently.

    Lizzie: “Rabz, I just don’t think she’s that beautiful …”

    Rabz: ” 🙁 “

  184. Rabz Avatar
    Rabz

    our very own Rickw

    A man who marched out on his own terms, with his head held high.

  185. calli Avatar
    calli

    He fought da coof and it ran!

    Now…I’m starting to wonder

  186. Zipster Avatar
    Zipster

    I see grigles has become the new resident wrongologist

  187. Rex Anger Avatar
    Rex Anger

    I see grigles has become the new resident wrongologist

    In a way, he’s somehow never stopped…

  188. P Avatar
    P

    Craig Kelly MP
    @CraigKellyMP
    ·
    1h
    90 years ago, the United Australia Party won the biggest electoral landslide in Australia Federal election history, with Joe Lyons becoming Prime Minister

    19th December, 1931 Australian Federal Election

  189. Rex Anger Avatar
    Rex Anger

    @ P-

    He forgot to add #It’sTime for more head-explodey goodness…

  190. Delta A Avatar
    Delta A

    Megansays:
    December 19, 2021 at 12:02 pm

    Excellent comment, Megan.

  191. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha Avatar
    Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    90 years ago, the United Australia Party won the biggest electoral landslide in Australia Federal election history, with Joe Lyons becoming Prime Minister

    Defeating the Scullin Labor Government – a Government led by probably the most ineffectual Prime Minister Australia has ever had…

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