Open Thread – Mon 10 Jan 2022


The Black Brook, John Singer Sargent, 1908

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JC
JC
January 11, 2022 3:32 pm

Mole

No. This one went on a scholarship whereas the folks paid for our friends’ daughter.

Kneel
Kneel
January 11, 2022 3:34 pm

“Hah. You didn’t think that one through very far.

Snowy 2.0 – backed up with Green hydrogen.”

Both of these are energy storage options, not primary energy sources.

Aside from the losses involved (at least 30% for hydro and 50+% for hydrogen), which would mean you need double or more solar/wind, again, where do you get the power from?

We currently have less than 20% of our electricity coming from renew-a-bubbles and it is costing us over $5 billion a year in extra costs. Assuming you need triple the current supply to run vehicles (four times total), and then double that to store the requisite energy, then probably triple it again to account for when the sun doesn’t shine and the wind doesn’t blow, that’s gonna cost a bomb – 600+GW of solar/wind, and not nameplate, actual. So quadruple it again for nameplate. Then add 50% to allow for maintenance. So 3.6TW – with sufficient storage “sink” to suck down 2.4TW.
Given the actual lifespan of the “green” energy generation options currently in use, you would be replacing them before you had even gotten part way through building the required infrastructure.
Not to mention that this is only current demand and doesn’t allow for any growth.
And that this estimate is likely conservative (as in, we’d need more generation and storage than assumed above to make it work in practice).

Note that the required grid upgrade to move all this power around is not included, so add that as well, and allow for associated losses (higher in the snowies, because you need to deliberately over-load the transmission lines in winter to keep them de-iced).

What was that you said about not thinking it through?

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
January 11, 2022 3:36 pm

Lady of Shalott, whats her bit in the Arfur story?

She is part of the Indo-European mythology of The White Goddess or White Lady of the Rivers. In Britain sacred islands set in waters were long popular from the Bronze Age onwards (defensible, plus act too as symbolic battlements against sea rise and floods?) Anciently, swords were thrust into the beaches of islands to hold back the tides (there’s a bit of magic in the story of a fabled king’s power in conducting such rituals that probably comes from oral folk archives. It was extended to Cnut who then used it for his own purposes, to show his limitations). The Lady of Shalott was likely a sovereignty goddess, marking boundaries between tribes, which were often defined by rivers, hence this White Goddess appears all over the European map. A thoroughly pagan figure, bound to die as paganism died, enchanted and set to spin by a bad faery and never look into the mirror of fate (another sort of pagan twist) which the Lancelot role in the poem suggests, with his Christian forgiveness.

One of my favourite pieces of Tennyson.
At school in England aged eleven, as I was anxiously anticipating that unexplained bodily thing my mother called my ‘courses’ which was all the sex education she gave, we girls used to all get the giggles at ‘the curse has come upon me, cried the Lady of Shallot’. Girls gotta giggle and at least I got to know it was a curse as well as a course. You grabbed whatever information you could glean in those days.

H B Bear
H B Bear
January 11, 2022 3:37 pm

I sent my word salad back to the kitchen.

P
P
January 11, 2022 3:37 pm
Roger
Roger
January 11, 2022 3:38 pm

Kneel, I suspect Dr. F was being satirical.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
January 11, 2022 3:38 pm

but these empty shelves everywhere, has anyone of the many who bagged Struth for warning of it (saying it wouldn’t happen), apologised to him?

Why, Mrs Faulty?

The Mighty Road Wobbler-Tantrumthrower declared that MuH TyRrAnNy was going to starve people by various combinations of violently enforced border closures preventing all logistical communications between States or in and out of the country, forcing unvaccinated truckies off the road or making delays so bad that things would collapse.

None of that has happened.

The Road Warriors are still crashing into each other and other road users in all Australian States and Territories without a care in the world, interstate logistics and communications are as strong as they ever have been (heck the rail freight scene in most places has seen more demand than they can supply), and a lot of these empty shelves you are screaming about, Mrs. Faulty are localised to particular sites thanks to their ordering policies and the retardedness of both their Health Authorities’ dictates and how religiously local Management enforces them.

Struth remains as kickable as ever. And even more so as his (and your) Narrative of tyrannical doom collapses even faster than the bugmens’ Narrative it is based on.

No go away and sit back in your tunnel.

srr
srr
January 11, 2022 3:38 pm

Kenny Lee
@RealKennyLee
·
1h
So in the last few days you learned:

1 – 75% of C19 deaths actually died from something else

2 – Fauci Lied

3 – Pfizer Jab doesn’t work

4 – Ivermectin is legit

5 – Sotomayor is an idiot

Welcome to the club. Now go hug a conspiracy theorist. They’ve known it for a while.

https://gettr.com/post/pnl79u342b

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
January 11, 2022 3:39 pm

Arthur’s legendary wife Guinevere, Gwenhwyfar in Welsh, derives from White Spirit, so she is another sovereignty goddess. An archetype.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
January 11, 2022 3:39 pm

Cnut

Language!

(Heehee!)

rickw
rickw
January 11, 2022 3:40 pm

Khazakstan upheaval could have direct implications for the Bidens:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32mNQ07jy1k

MatrixTransform
January 11, 2022 3:41 pm

Implicitly the Merc battery is not higher capacity, just higher efficiency, which of itself takes pressure off the network.

do power and time work different in your galaxy?

calli
calli
January 11, 2022 3:42 pm

Happy anniversary!

On the Lady of Shallot, she’s also know as Elaine, the Fair Maid of Astolat.

Long story short, she falls in lurve with Lance, but there’s a catch (apart from him not thinking much of her). If she looks out on the real world from her tower, she is Cursed! She can only see it through a mirror. She’s a bit of an Arthurian Penelope, doomed to stitching a tapestry.

In Tennyson’s poem, she sits in her bower stitching, sees Lance’s coal black curls and brazen greaves in the mirror, has a real peak and, Crash! Then she hops in a boat, carks it and the river takes her down to Camelot.

I think it was T.H. White who characterised her as a bit of a wimpy scold. The Victorians, however, loved her.

Winston Smith
January 11, 2022 3:43 pm

vr:

I can’t see Libs winning the election after this.

Just like Turnbull wanted.
He had Morrison worked out precisely.

Bons
Bons
January 11, 2022 3:43 pm

JC, I have lived in a number of very cold places and spent winter time in others, including Canada, but there is something unique about NY cold on those clear days. It stuns you, and strangely, feels soggy even though it is desert dry.
“These New York City winters are …”

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
January 11, 2022 3:43 pm

do power and time work different in your galaxy?

Good one Matrix.
May the farce be with him.

Speedbox
January 11, 2022 3:43 pm

JC says:
January 11, 2022 at 2:41 pm
JC – are you converting your car to electric?

Missed this.
Oh ,toying with the idea at this stage,

JC – converting an ICE car to EV is an expensive proposition. If you are not doing the work yourself, think $40,000 as a bare-bones minimum and the price will rise steeply after that depending on your power and range requirements. Rule of thumb is that anything post ~1996 is probably unsuitable due to the existing vehicle electronics and any vehicle weighing more than ~2,000kg presents significant power (read cost) issues.

Fun project and interesting but be prepared for significant expense.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
January 11, 2022 3:43 pm

I sent my word salad back to the kitchen.

Naturally. Beare-baiters (shame on you Bear for turncoating your very name) tend to find serious content indigestable.

rickw
rickw
January 11, 2022 3:46 pm

I ask because the present situation is the result of government mandates and could be resolved quite quickly if those were relaxed.

IIRC Struth said it would be government mandates, but in a more direct way, border closures and general difficulties in logistics.

The mandates are doing it in a more subtle way, removal of workers due to close contact / positive tests but fit for work.

Zatara
Zatara
January 11, 2022 3:47 pm

Serious gerbil warming in NYC on Tuesday.

We buried my auntie near Boston yesterday. -26c adjusted for wind chill.

Thank God for flasks, Irish whiskey, and rapid services.

Ironically, she took global warming as an article of faith to her death.

Kneel
Kneel
January 11, 2022 3:47 pm

“China is planning at least 150 new reactors in the next 15 years, more than the rest of the world has built in the past 35 years.”

Good – means nobody needs nuclear weapons to turn China into a glowing slag heap, just 600 or so conventional cruise missiles aimed appropriately should do the job…

Damon
Damon
January 11, 2022 3:48 pm

“I don’t want to get vaxed, but if things are going to get worse”
Just look at the travel advisories. There is virtually no country in the world that does not require vaccination as a condition of entry. So you put up, or shut up.

Roger
Roger
January 11, 2022 3:50 pm

Right, thanks rick.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
January 11, 2022 3:50 pm

Really? I thought Bear was having a go at Mrs Faulty…

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
January 11, 2022 3:50 pm

Yep, that’s all in the poem, Calli. True, some may never have read it.

It comes via the French Arthurian romances but its origins are as I suggest in relationship to the Arthurian ‘kingship’. This is quite apparent via his ‘French Guinevere’, a White Lady.

Personally, I can cry still over the Lady’s sad demise in the poem, where Lancelot praises her ‘lovely face’, upon which he calls down hsi own God’s Grace. Suicidally unworthy as she is of it.

Shades of Orphelia there too. Drifting maidens dying in waters.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
January 11, 2022 3:55 pm

T. H. White was of course writing fiction. Tennyson less so, as he was reworking myth.

chrisl
chrisl
January 11, 2022 3:56 pm

Putting power underground is 6 times as expensive as above ground*
If 10% of the vehicle fleet went electric there would need to be a doubling of power supply **
Bloke I know has a new fangled electric Merc
To his credit he installed 11 kw of solar
Put considerable money into it
* reliable source
** very reliable source
Perhaps we could ban electric vehicles from the grid

calli
calli
January 11, 2022 3:58 pm

She’s in Malory. The story is a bit simpler there, just a nurse who falls for her handsome patient.

Tennyson enlarged upon the story in the poem, McKennett paraphrased it so it would scan to the music. As I said, the Victorians, particularly the Pre-Raphaelites, loved her. Depicted by many of The Brotherhood. Waterhouse, Holman Hunt, Rosetti all had a go.

Dover, being a bit of a romantic when it comes to art, might like to put one up one day. I like the Waterhouse that catches her at the moment the Curse descends and she’s all tangled up in the spools of thread. A bit like me when the doorbell rings.

rickw
rickw
January 11, 2022 3:59 pm

How much would it cost and how long would it take to upgrade the grid?

I once did a fuel job at a substation for their backup generator (powering control systems, nothing else).

The joint was full of leaking 1950’s Metrovick Transformers. (I remember them because I had been given a full set of The British Engineering Journal, bound and previously owned by The Port of Melbourne, they had lots of Metrovick transformer advertisements in them.)

So, by my reckoning, could be a little bit expensive….

Razey
Razey
January 11, 2022 4:00 pm

Damonsays:
January 11, 2022 at 3:48 pm
“I don’t want to get vaxed, but if things are going to get worse”
Just look at the travel advisories. There is virtually no country in the world that does not require vaccination as a condition of entry. So you put up, or shut up.

Mexico. Then you can just walk across the border into the USA, unvax’d!

H B Bear
H B Bear
January 11, 2022 4:00 pm

Rex – I am part of the pile on. Not losing sleep over it.

calli
calli
January 11, 2022 4:01 pm

This one.

The others are way too melodramatic.

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
January 11, 2022 4:01 pm

The problem with underground power is the cost when sumfink goes wrong.

Roger
Roger
January 11, 2022 4:02 pm

Mexico. Then you can just walk across the border into the USA, unvax’d!

Is Uncle Joe still offering free health care?

rickw
rickw
January 11, 2022 4:02 pm

Putting power underground is 6 times as expensive as above ground*

It’s a nightmare, people don’t realise how much infrastructure is down there. One reason Dickhead Dans Big Build stopped doing level crossing removal via underground. To expensive even for his belt and road gross financial mismanagement.

rickw
rickw
January 11, 2022 4:03 pm

The problem with underground power is the cost when sumfink goes wrong.

Subcontinental NBN installers with backhoes being a particular problem….

Razey
Razey
January 11, 2022 4:04 pm

rickwsays:
January 11, 2022 at 4:02 pm
Putting power underground is 6 times as expensive as above ground*

It’s a nightmare, people don’t realise how much infrastructure is down there. One reason Dickhead Dans Big Build stopped doing level crossing removal via underground. To expensive even for his belt and road gross financial miss mismanagement.

Fixed?

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
January 11, 2022 4:04 pm

Really? I thought Bear was having a go at Mrs Faulty…

Who is Mrs. Faulty – is that Struth?
Conrol F doesn’t bring him up tossing with oil and vinegar on this page.
If people could only keep their referent straight things might improve.

Regardless, H.B. Bear the Pantless and, dear me, the Dickless too, is definitely a dickless upticker who engages enthusiastically in Beare-Baiting, a popular Old English sport well-revived here.
I forgive him because I like him and am aware he is a brave person fighting adversity in his life.
Still wish he’d stop though.

calli
calli
January 11, 2022 4:06 pm

Johanna would recognise that Waterhouse too. It’s the one Tom Adams used for the Fontana paperback cover – “The Mirror Crack’d from Side to Side” by the Divine Agatha.

One of his best.

feelthebern
feelthebern
January 11, 2022 4:06 pm

Georgia.

H B Bear
H B Bear
January 11, 2022 4:07 pm

So, by my reckoning, could be a little bit expensive….

Yep. Plenty of sunk costs standing in people’s front gardens. Load and load growth is a bit of a best guess when you get down into the weeds. It might be several years between peak events. A lot can change in that time and the network companies do not necessarily have full visibility of what is happening.

Delta A
Delta A
January 11, 2022 4:08 pm

Psays:
January 11, 2022 at 3:37 pm

Thank you, P. That was lovely.

calli
calli
January 11, 2022 4:08 pm

Power, poetry, politics, paintings and pile-ons.

Another afternoon at the Cat. 😀

Zatara
Zatara
January 11, 2022 4:09 pm

FTB

Dogs, and well done to them.

jupes
jupes
January 11, 2022 4:10 pm

Biden’s CDC Director on Good Morning America, “The overwhelming number of [covid] deaths, over 75 percent, occurred in people who had at least four comorbidities. So really these are people who were unwell to begin with.”

75% “had at least four comorbidities”. Okay.

What are the percentages for people with 3, 2 or 1 comorbidity? Surely they have that information. Strange that no one thought to ask that question.

Thefrollickingmole
Thefrollickingmole
January 11, 2022 4:11 pm

Ha! Interruptions

While chucking a cannula into my patient last week very engrossed and it just had the blood “ flashback” and I was about to advance the set into the vein.
Bloody phone rang in my top pocket and I jumped a little managing to turn a lovely vein into a collapsed disaster…

Take phone out of pocket and try other arm….

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
January 11, 2022 4:13 pm

pile-ons ? Or is it geriatric confusion with piles on [ ahem edited out ]

Delta A
Delta A
January 11, 2022 4:13 pm

Thank you, lovely Cats, for your kind wishes.

I know it’s a bit facebooky, but I have always loved being married to my wonderful guy and an anniversary is an ideal for me to shout it from the rooftops.

Back to serious stuff now.

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
January 11, 2022 4:14 pm

Nope its pylons!

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
January 11, 2022 4:14 pm

Mate was head engineer at a power authority in the 1970s, overseeing a suburban development all underground power, slow selling due to $2k increase in block price. Mate built a very stylish house there, not big, early on. All the houses in his cul de sac were similar. Was he pissed when the local council built a whole lot of houses for the riff-raff. Then the government did the same thing.

MatrixTransform
January 11, 2022 4:14 pm

How much would it cost and how long would it take to upgrade the grid?

I’d guess that it is constantly being upgraded on an incremental basis.
Sudden EV intrusion at a large scale (especially in cities) could easily flip some issues into critical.
This means money has to be taken out of the Procrastinator Bucket

I do a lot of work in a big residential apartment building full of wealthy types
10 levels of carpark.
if say half the people decided to buy EVs then the joint will need another substation.
It already has two of them
Where will it go?
cost? pht? a million or two maybe
and nobody will be getting their own 22kW fast charger that’s for sure

the other thing that Kneel touched on earlier is quite a large problem too.
Harmonic distortion from non-linear loads and electronical switching creates all sorts of problems
iron-losses for one, and getting rid of the heat
mitigation of distortion is non-trivial (read, expensive)

here’s some papers of interest

H B Bear
H B Bear
January 11, 2022 4:16 pm

Cannulas. Ouch. Don’t miss my days as a pin cushion. The best one was getting woken up by a doctor at 4:30am to stick one in. He didn’t seem to see anything unusual about this.

calli
calli
January 11, 2022 4:18 pm

Erk. Forgot to close the link. Sorry about that!

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
January 11, 2022 4:19 pm

Dover, being a bit of a romantic when it comes to art, might like to put one up one day.

I hope so. I adore the Pre-Raphaelites unreservedly. A clever and evocative Victorian set of thematics, alluding to Botticelli’s La Primavera and the Birth of Venus and other early influences.

An artist love of mine once said of my very youth that I had Pre-Raphaelite hands peeping out over the sheets. He’s dead now though, and since then my mitts have also moved on. 🙂

rickw
rickw
January 11, 2022 4:20 pm

Any good guidance on how to update your linked in profile?

I haven’t touched it for about 10 years.

(Just woke up from a nap with a start, thought I’d fallen asleep at work, then I remembered I don’t have work anymore, so probably should do something about that!)

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
January 11, 2022 4:21 pm

Cannulas. Ouch. Don’t miss my days as a pin cushion.

Yes. And speaking of hands, canulas on the wrists are the worst.

rickw
rickw
January 11, 2022 4:23 pm

Was he pissed when the local council built a whole lot of houses for the riff-raff. Then the government did the same thing.

Melton?

H B Bear
H B Bear
January 11, 2022 4:26 pm

I remember being amazed by the services under the apartment block I was renting in Melbourne. 3 inch gas pipe going into a recirculating central hot water system, giant sewage pipes everywhere. All in the middle of suburbia developed God knows when.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
January 11, 2022 4:28 pm

When the solar panel fads really started to hit their straps (60c FITs will do that) Ausgrid scrambled to install transformers. So in my suburb we ended up with all these enormous metal boxes hanging precariously from ratty wooden power poles. That was that iteration.

The next iteration with EVs will be fun. I’m not sure the wooden poles could physically support the weight of what’d need to be attached to them.

Underground would be easier in that respect since the transformers sit on the surface.

Bons
Bons
January 11, 2022 4:29 pm

It is fascinatingly predictable that the two most insane premiers were compelled to demonstrate the dimensions of their colonies just as the proles were beginning to show some independance.
Of course Dan had to mark his return with a meaningless bullshit rule intended to distress the elderly and their families. Such a big tough boy. What is it about this creature and his contempt for the elderly. Did he not ,ill enough in the first round.
And of course Bogan Barbie had to start the year by fucking around parents because …… well, because power.
Pond scum.

areff
areff
January 11, 2022 4:30 pm

I’ve come down with another case of the FIV virus — F***ed in Victoria, where nothing works but the corruption.

Briefly, figuring the green scolds will soon ban ICE engines, I impulse bought a 4.3 liter V8 (350hp). Body needs the attention of an itinerant ‘puller’ to remove four hail pits and a minor ding on the front quarter panel, but mechanically, as the newly obtained RWC attests, its in great nick and, according to the mechanic, I got a very good deal. As I reckon everyone should own a V8 at some point in their lives, I decided to set the example.

OK, so down to VicRoads in Werribee to get it registered. Simple, right?

Oh, but no.

First, I need to get another one-day permit that lets me drive it home legally. This is on top of the first permit to get it to the mechanic. So $100 so far.

VicRoads, however, requires me to make an appointment, with the first opening not until Jan 22. The vehicle is primed, meets all legal requirements, has just had the rear brakes renewed and could be on the road this instant … except, Victoria. Now, Dan’s minions are going to milk me for yet another $50 + the “inspection fee” which will see some cardigan’d soaker-up-up of public monies walk outside and say, ‘Yeah, it’s a car and the VIN number matches the compliance plate, so here are your new Vic licence plates.”

Why is anything and everything so bloody complicated in Victoria and, for good measure, encrusted with fees, penalties and delays?

If you’re in Victoria, get out. If you’re considering investing in Victoria, don’t.

feelthebern
feelthebern
January 11, 2022 4:31 pm

A bird I know has just gotten over COVID (2 days).
Where she off to?
The GC.
Why wouldn’t you.

Frank
Frank
January 11, 2022 4:33 pm

Good – means nobody needs nuclear weapons to turn China into a glowing slag heap, just 600 or so conventional cruise missiles aimed appropriately should do the job…

Followed by the coup de grâce, a missile into the Three Gorges dam wall to help distribute it all about the place.

feelthebern
feelthebern
January 11, 2022 4:34 pm

Alabama beat Georgia in the SEC championship game.
Georgia beats them in the national championship game.
Incredible to watch.

Bons
Bons
January 11, 2022 4:34 pm

‘cojones’ not ‘colonies’ you moron machine

feelthebern
feelthebern
January 11, 2022 4:36 pm

areff, is the car made from Rearden Metal?

twostix
twostix
January 11, 2022 4:37 pm

Any good guidance on how to update your linked in profile?

I haven’t touched it for about 10 years.

For the love of god whatever you do don’t click the main feed.

You’ll never be able to unsee the sight of people you know personally acting like the biggest bunch of sluts tarting themselves up for attention and comments from the virtue pimps that run that bugman shit show. The worst thing is finding out some of them are serious, they really think like that.

Frank
Frank
January 11, 2022 4:39 pm

The problem with underground power is the cost when sumfink goes wrong.

Moles have been known to be an issue there.

Boambee John
Boambee John
January 11, 2022 4:39 pm

Rogersays:
January 11, 2022 at 4:02 pm
Mexico. Then you can just walk across the border into the USA, unvax’d!

Is Uncle Joe still offering free health care?

California just legislated for that.

H B Bear
H B Bear
January 11, 2022 4:40 pm

areff – sounds like the very worst of Cain/Kirner. NSW was always the worst for that, with people registering their cars over the border in some cases. Sounds like that has reversed. Melbournibad’s comparative advantage is plenty of flat cow paddocks that can be developed relatively cheaply. Not much use if no one wants to live there.

MatrixTransform
January 11, 2022 4:41 pm

The problem with underground power is the cost when sumfink goes wrong.

we were basically handed a job on a plate late last year.
existing subcircuit for a fire pump
100m of conduit under a carpark
conduits full of water (and probably silt as well) and the MIMS cable was blown somewhere under ground
I think their best quote to fix was just shy of $100k

everybody that looked it apparently pulled that Squinty Tradie Face
including us

Lysander
Lysander
January 11, 2022 4:46 pm

Great interactive map of electorates and swings:

https://www.pollbludger.net/fed2022/

Razey
Razey
January 11, 2022 4:46 pm

rickwsays:
January 11, 2022 at 4:20 pm
Any good guidance on how to update your linked in profile?

I haven’t touched it for about 10 years.

(Just woke up from a nap with a start, thought I’d fallen asleep at work, then I remembered I don’t have work anymore, so probably should do something about that!)

Pretty simple. Just follow the steps they want you to take.

I’ve never gotten a job off linkedin, no one uses it to communicate either, well amongst my colleagues in the water game.

Only during the last 2 months have I ever gotten any contact from legit business asking if I wanted a ‘chat’. So there is a bit of work around. Melb Water is spending a few $bill + all the roads and other authorities spending big means there is plenty of work and all the engineers are getting soaked up. The challenge is that you cant do site visits without the clot shot, which is very annoying and impeding my work. This isn’t sustainable for me long term, if I get another 6 months I’ll be surprised.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
January 11, 2022 4:47 pm

Who is Mrs. Faulty – is that Struth?

No. SRR.

She of the tunnel pizzas.

Coincidentally, I have never had a tunnel pizza. I am curious, though, as the internet seems to rave about them all the time…

JC
JC
January 11, 2022 4:48 pm

Hey Dover, see the the email.

Lysander
Lysander
January 11, 2022 4:52 pm

Sheesh, some State swings against Fed Libs are huge!

-WA: 9.8%
– QLD: 7.5%
-NSW: 3.9%
– SA: 2.7%
– Vic: 1.6%.

Lysander
Lysander
January 11, 2022 4:54 pm

(Tassie only State holding Lib)

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Border Closure

Roger says: January 11, 2022 at 3:25 pm

…has anyone of the many who bagged Struth for warning of it (saying it wouldn’t happen), apologised to him?

I don’t believe I had a dog in that fight, but what was the rationale he offered for his prediction?
I ask because the present situation is the result of government mandates and could be resolved quite quickly if those were relaxed.

As rickw says, Struth’s case was pretty much based on two things:

1/. the pre-March 2020 rules being applied.
2/. Truckies being subjected to the same lockdown & movement restrictions as the general population.

Both reasonable assumptions, considering Australia’s (until then) pedantic adherence to some of the most pointless workplace compliance rules ever seen on this planet.

However both points (1) and (2) were dropped faster than you can say “general exemption”
The near-rioting over dunny paper may have indicated to even the most clueless politician that halting the supply chain may not end well.

JC
JC
January 11, 2022 4:55 pm

Sppedbox.

I have Clipsal Cbus electrical circuit system. An electrician told me installing a 3 phase Mercedes panel is no biggie at all as the system can easily handle it. Is he wrong?

Roger
Roger
January 11, 2022 4:56 pm

If you’re in Victoria, get out. If you’re considering investing in Victoria, don’t.

Victoria, The Place Not To Be.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Border Closure

Sheesh, some State swings against Fed Libs are huge!

Anybody able to nominate a state liberal party deserving of a swing toward it?

Lysander
Lysander
January 11, 2022 4:59 pm

Anybody able to nominate a state liberal party deserving of a swing toward it?

Anybody able to nominate a state labor party deserving of a swing toward it?

Razey
Razey
January 11, 2022 4:59 pm

Lysandersays:
January 11, 2022 at 4:52 pm
Sheesh, some State swings against Fed Libs are huge!

-WA: 9.8%
– QLD: 7.5%
-NSW: 3.9%
– SA: 2.7%
– Vic: 1.6%.

Those figures have to be BS especially in vic. The 20 – 30% of people who were FORCED to get the clot shout will not vote for either labor or liberal.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
January 11, 2022 4:59 pm

No single person has a grip on the huge and extensive Arthurian corpus, from the earliest Welsh tales and poems to the extensive medieval tellings following on from Geoffrey of Monmouth’s early twelfth century pseud0-history. A huge range of tales exist, including the Grail story of the French Chretian de Troys and its Continuations. They appear firstly in Latin and later developments in Old French, Middle English and also Middle German.

Extensions in poetry and prose that followed from Geoffrey’s awakening of interest fill many volumes keeping scholars occupied constantly. The condensed and printed version created in the fifteenth century by Malory tended to stablise the outline of the Arthurian world but hardly limit it. I still get daily updates on Academia.com as literary medievalists rework this or that aspect and of course there are those, like me, whose interest lies in much earlier themes within the tales, including their origins.

On top of that, there are the novelists who go to town on this corpus. My preference is for Bernard Cornwall’s trilogy, which tries to tell a realistic albeit invented tale of the postulated Arthurian period, the fifth/sixth century in Britain. I’m not keen on the fantasists such Marion Zimmer Bradley’s ‘The Mists of Avalon’, nor T.H. White’s ‘The Once and Future King’ and a multitude of similar others.

The Pre-Raphaelites of course added their own emotional content. I rather like this tapestry by Edweard-Burne-Jones and William Morris, which is on the cover of Nicholas Higham’s scholarly book “King Arhur: Myth-Making and History”. Unseen in this cover though is a central theme of many of the legends, which the full picture here shows: a lone maiden riding in on a Palfrey, appearing out of nowhere, initiates an ‘adventure’. Medieval audiences previously restricted to only biblical tales, were spellbound. As were the Victorian mediaevalist Pre-Raphaelites.

Cassie of Sydney
January 11, 2022 5:01 pm

“Delta Asays:
January 11, 2022 at 4:13 pm
Thank you, lovely Cats, for your kind wishes.”

Mazaltov DA.

Lysander
Lysander
January 11, 2022 5:01 pm

Those figures have to be BS especially in vic. The 20 – 30% of people who were FORCED to get the clot shout will not vote for either labor or liberal.

Razey, all stats her: https://www.pollbludger.net/fed2022/bludgertrack2022/polldata.htm?

Roger
Roger
January 11, 2022 5:02 pm

Sheesh, some State swings against Fed Libs are huge!

If that swing eventuated in QLD the LNP would be wiped out.

I epect they’ll rein it in during the campaign but not enough.

JC
JC
January 11, 2022 5:03 pm

Fuck off driller. Stop trying to recreate reality for the Baker’s Delight delivery man. There was never.. repeat NEVER… any possibility ANY government was going to prevent the transportation system from operating at anything but full steam. If they weren’t closing down the flood retailers there was never any consideration they were going to close down transport. Now fuck and go lie somewhere else, you discredited sack of shit. Yea we know, BDDM (Baker’s Delight delivery man) is a queen’s lander so therefore you have to try and cover fo0r him.

You have zero integrity, you dishonest c..t.

Lysander
Lysander
January 11, 2022 5:05 pm

If that swing eventuated in QLD the LNP would be wiped out.

I epect they’ll rein it in during the campaign but not enough.

I think so but we will see… Scomo leads Albo as preferred PM by a long way but it’s the primary vote that wins elections!

JC
JC
January 11, 2022 5:06 pm

Driller

Want to know why banks won’t lend to you? The above exchange is Exhibit A right there. You were created genetically untrustworthy

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
January 11, 2022 5:07 pm

Sheesh, some State swings against Fed Libs are huge!

-WA: 9.8%

They like their Fuehrer.

Mark McGowan says ‘life is about to get difficult’ for unvaccinated WA residents under sweeping new vaccine requirements (10 Jan)

Wear your yellow star, kulak, and like it, or there’re a whole bunch of gulags distant mining camps we could send you to.

Bill P
Bill P
January 11, 2022 5:09 pm

‘cojones’ not ‘colonies’ you moron machine

Colons?

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
January 11, 2022 5:09 pm

The problem with underground power is the cost when sumfink goes wrong.

Moles have been known to be an issue there.

On behalf of the mole-Australian community Im shocked at this rampant racism.
This insult to my proud people can only be paid for by constitutional recognition, our own chamber of parliament and huge moist wads of other peoples money.

Wookatawiddlefaces….

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Border Closure

Friendly & sociable fellow Cat JC seems to be off his meds today.
Dearie me.

Lysander
Lysander
January 11, 2022 5:09 pm

Fark me Bruce, it is hard living in WA with “State Daddy” and lovely photo ops from 7West Media (who own everything). There’s not a day goes by The Worst or some 7W outlet doesn’t do a lovely story on
Daddy.

Fucking puke.

Pogria
Pogria
January 11, 2022 5:09 pm

Michael Smith has posted one of the funniest clips of Premier Sneakers being serious about Aboriginal health re, Corona.

His interpreter is a scream.

Lysander
Lysander
January 11, 2022 5:10 pm

Damn you Scomo! Why haven’t you done anything about those empty shelves in the USA!!?

https://slate.com/business/2022/01/grocery-store-shortage-empty-shelves-explained.html

jupes
jupes
January 11, 2022 5:11 pm

As I reckon everyone should own a V8 at some point in their lives

True. I intend owning one for the rest of mine.

Razey
Razey
January 11, 2022 5:11 pm

Got me fucked why anyone would vote for either Dumb or Dumber.

C’mon, the minors have to be able to do -something- this election. Aus really is a shit hole.

Lysander
Lysander
January 11, 2022 5:12 pm

Michael Smith has posted one of the funniest clips of Premier Sneakers being serious about Aboriginal health re, Corona.

His interpreter is a scream.

THAT IS THE FUNNIEST (and most awkward) THING I’VE EVER SEEN BAHAHAHAHAH!

JC
JC
January 11, 2022 5:13 pm

I’m very friendly to people I like and respect, Driller. As you know, with you it’s neither and that will never change. In fact, I can’t stand you as you well know and the partial reason is expressed above in your blatant lying for DBBM. Stop lying and you will be ignored. Continue to lie and you will be upended as always. The agreement states that you are not allowed to lie. Please ensure that you follow the ruling.

Cassie of Sydney
January 11, 2022 5:13 pm

“Scomo leads Albo as preferred PM”

“Preferred PM” means nothing.

Albosleazy, a man unfit for any office, whose raison d’etre is fighting non-existent “Tories”, will be out next PM, thanks to the perpetual spinelessness and ineptitude of Scumbag Morrison and the Coalition.

Our best hope, as mentioned before, is a dog’s breakfast of a senate, with UAP, PHON and the Lib Dems holding the balance of power.

We must pray for this (I do believe in the power of prayer).

calli
calli
January 11, 2022 5:14 pm

Ahahaha! Pogria, that’s a classic.

Reminds me of that clown Harris talking in broken English and fake accents. He sounds like he’s talking to the mentally challenged. Disgraceful.

Franx
Franx
January 11, 2022 5:16 pm

Lady of Shalott
Her undoing was that magnificent bastard Lancelot whose sensual mirrored image appeared and sounded – tirra lirra – just after the passing bridal couple had prompted her to say, ‘I’m half sick of shadows’.

Razey
Razey
January 11, 2022 5:16 pm

Cassie of Sydneysays:
January 11, 2022 at 5:13 pm
“Scomo leads Albo as preferred PM”

“Preferred PM” means nothing.

Albosleazy, a man unfit for any office, whose raison d’etre is fighting non-existent “Tories”, will be out next PM, thanks to the perpetual spinelessness and ineptitude of Scumbag Morrison and the Coalition.

Our best hope, as mentioned before, is a dog’s breakfast of a senate, with UAP, PHON and the Lib Dems holding the balance of power.

We must pray for this (I do believe in the power of prayer).

Me too, but I feel that God has selected Australians for punishment.

If you can get out, do so.

Lysander
Lysander
January 11, 2022 5:16 pm

C’mon, the minors have to be able to do -something- this election. Aus really is a shit hole.

Minors have no chance in HoR unless GetUp! is behind you. Maybe some Senate love but…

Prime Minister Anthony Albanese. Get used to it.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 11, 2022 5:17 pm

… but these empty shelves everywhere, has anyone of the many who bagged Struth for warning of it (saying it wouldn’t happen), apologised to him?

Ah, no ussr.
Because he predicted it within a week of 3rd August 2020, citing totally different causes than we are seeing now.
All based on duff “inside info” from his sponsor father in Melbourne.
Wrong to the power of 3.

Pogria
Pogria
January 11, 2022 5:18 pm

Salvatore,
you have to give him a bit of sympathy, the Vogon Poetry recital has been particularly long today.

H B Bear
H B Bear
January 11, 2022 5:18 pm

Much of what is in place in Victoriastan is an accident of history – Bass Strait gas and cheap brown coal electricity. Turn one (or both) off and see what happens. BHP iron ore already left for Perth. Holden and Ford gone. Wouldn’t want that to become a trend.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Border Closure

JC says: January 11, 2022 at 5:13 pm

Back off you amoral lying piece of shit.
I look down on you, as I do (justifiably so) to all amoral people. You get no credit for being partially descended into dementia, as sad as that diagnosis was for you.

Lysander
Lysander
January 11, 2022 5:19 pm

Our best hope, as mentioned before, is a dog’s breakfast of a senate, with UAP, PHON and the Lib Dems holding the balance of power.

We must pray for this (I do believe in the power of prayer).

If you believe in the power of prayer you should be voting Christian Democrats and stay the hell away from closet Marxists in the LDP.

Rabz
January 11, 2022 5:19 pm

Drove the 6kms from the cottage to the Repco shop in Camperdown this morning to procure the sacred rear view mirror adhesive*. Way too many people outside on a 28 degree 90% humidity day (e.g. at 11:30am) clad in face nappies.

Bern – thank goodness I had air conditioning installed in the cottage back in March. The humidity this summer has been obscene, definitely the worst since moving back in April 2017. The constant rain, of course, hasn’t helped and has been the main instigator. But the lawns are looking magnificent, even they do have to be given a hair cut every three days or so. 😕

*Thanks again to various Cats for their suggestions.

calli
calli
January 11, 2022 5:20 pm

Oi! That’s Alfred Lord Tennyson to you, champ!

And Elaine was a proto bunny boiler.

There. I’ve said it.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
January 11, 2022 5:20 pm

This walking abortion has a tasteful show on their ABCcess…

It tastefully mixes fiction with fact, as well as a healthy dose of “retrowishing” events in locations afterwards away..

Stuff The British Stole

Thats the actual name of it.

Eg: The bit on the Parthenmon marbles.
Lots about the eeeeviil conniving chap who removed them, not so much about the use of the place as a munitions dump and the explosion that destroyed the (until then largely intact) structure…

THE 1687 EXPLOSION THAT DESTROYED THE PARTHENON

From 1801 to 1812, agents of Thomas Bruce, 7th Earl of Elgin removed about half of the surviving sculptures of the Parthenon

Damn good thing he did.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Border Closure

Me too, but I feel that God has selected Australians for punishment.
If you can get out, do so.

Sound advice Razey – sound advice indeed.

feelthebern
feelthebern
January 11, 2022 5:21 pm

Speaking of big predictions, are there an Big Dates coming up?
With all the power of Big Websites, you’d think there be something.

Cassie of Sydney
January 11, 2022 5:21 pm

“closet Marxists in the LDP”! Rubbish.

calli
calli
January 11, 2022 5:22 pm

Whoops, that was to Pogria on his Vogon insult.

These threads are like quicksilver.

H B Bear
H B Bear
January 11, 2022 5:22 pm

THAT IS THE FUNNIEST (and most awkward) THING I’VE EVER SEEN BAHAHAHAHAH!

Respect the codpiece.

Lysander
Lysander
January 11, 2022 5:23 pm
feelthebern
feelthebern
January 11, 2022 5:24 pm

Rabz, I’m a fan myself.
But even I have resorted to sleeping with the air con on for the last couple nights.
I hate it.

JC
JC
January 11, 2022 5:25 pm

Back off you amoral lying piece of shit.

LOL, zero chance, you inbred lying c..t.

I look down on you, as I do (justifiably so) to all amoral people.

You don’t look down on anyone, you discredited inbred. You look up at me.

You get no credit for being partially descended into dementia, as sad as that diagnosis was for you.

“Credit” is not a word that ought to be in your vocabulary. You’re genetically configured to lie, but unfortunately you won’t ever be given the chance with me around. Now go dust the bar, you fucking loser. You can’t stop lying because that’s who you are, so remain silent.

Lysander
Lysander
January 11, 2022 5:26 pm

“closet Marxists in the LDP”! Rubbish.

I knew I’d draw a crowd with that comment. I think the LDP have the most fantastic economic policies of any Australian Party, ever. Their social policies on no adult classifications/censorship, legalisation of hard drugs, open borders, same-sex marriage proponent (first ever actually), agnostic on abortion and euthanasia in that they don’t care, just as long as the State doesn’t pay…

… doesn’t really do it for me as a conservative.

Megan
Megan
January 11, 2022 5:26 pm

H B Bearsays:
January 11, 2022 at 2:55 pm
JC – no doubt underground power looks better. Street trees certainly appreciate it. We got all the bumph from the local council a while back. It was still pretty steep even with 50% government contribution. Not sure what the result of the vote was.

We briefly considered putting out private line from the street to our house underground after yet another storm caused the massive gums next door to drop branches on the line and leave us powerless. Power company will cut power but your own electrician has to make the repair before they eventually return to inspect it and restore power. Long and tedious time with everything in the freezer reducing to slush.
Quote was around the $30 grand mark and this was back in the mid 90’s. Needless to say we still have our wire threaded through the gum tress.

H B Bear
H B Bear
January 11, 2022 5:27 pm

At least while Sneakers is making those videos he cannot be working on ways to diminish my unvaccinated lifestyle.

Lysander
Lysander
January 11, 2022 5:28 pm

And before lots of cats start having a go at me, the only party i’d ever really be interested in would be thee Lysander Party… and that’s never gonna happen… so Christian Dems for me then down to majors with Labor and Greens last.

Rabz
January 11, 2022 5:28 pm

Bern – I don’t – I chill the room before retiring for the evening. You just need the humidity sucked out.

miltonf
miltonf
January 11, 2022 5:29 pm

Much of what is in place in Victoriastan is an accident of history

you could say that about most places ffs

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Border Closure

JC says: January 11, 2022 at 5:25 pm

You can’t keep a civil tongue, even at the most innocuous comment.
That is the action of a moron.

Grow up, you idiot. Act like an adult.

calli
calli
January 11, 2022 5:29 pm

I have seen the Parthenon and the marbles in the BM. (Twice each, to boast shamelessly).

Had they remained, they’d be toast. War and pollution and a dozen other destructive forces would have had their way with them. Displayed as they are, at eye level, you get a real feel for their beauty and innate fragility. And they are displayed beautifully, with a hint of what’s missing on the wall behind. You would never see this had the pediments and friezes stayed on the buildings.

As it is, everyone can enjoy both. And in London, it’s FOC.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
January 11, 2022 5:31 pm

Stuff The British Stole Saved

Under the Elgin Marbles room was another room. It was filled with Greek vases of various types. About the size of a tennis court and packed full of perfect examples of kylixes, amphorae and etc, with the most amazing enamel artwork on them. I could’ve spent days in there looking at them all.

If left to the ferals they’d all be broken potsherds and lost.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 11, 2022 5:32 pm

rickwsays:

January 11, 2022 at 4:03 pm

The problem with underground power is the cost when sumfink goes wrong.

Subcontinental NBN installers with backhoes being a particular problem….

Actually, you know what?
People snagging services with a backhoe can be attributed in large part to good old Aussie “she’ll be right” attitude and tolerance of slackness.
Not in the guy digging the trench in 2022, but the guys who re-routed the original services from the route specified on the drawings in 1985, but never bothered sending red-line as built mark ups back to the design draftsmen.
Or the utility companies “supporting” the Dial Before You Dig by seconding in complete fucking nufties to staff the service. In the real world they would be fired in a heartbeat, but not in your good old Aussie utility companies.
Gotta look after them.

Rabz
January 11, 2022 5:32 pm

Driving without a rear view mirror has been an interesting experience. If you have two side mirrors, you’re pretty much OK. As for reverse parking, fuggeddabboodit. My car is gloriously low tech, so no inbuilt radars.

jupes
jupes
January 11, 2022 5:34 pm

Michael Smith has posted one of the funniest clips of Premier Sneakers being serious about Aboriginal health re, Corona.

His interpreter is a scream.

Why are there still people in Australia speaking like babies? Fucking ridiculous.

JC
JC
January 11, 2022 5:34 pm

You can’t keep a civil tongue, even at the most innocuous comment.

No, it wasn’t “innocuous”. You were attempting to lie for BMMD and you’re not going to get away with with such simpleton crap.

Grow up, you idiot. Act like an adult.

I am very much, in fact. I’ll ensure you will never lie like that. It’s simply unworthy of this blog. You’re unworthy. In fact you’ve always been unworthy.

Driller, never lie again.

Lysander
Lysander
January 11, 2022 5:34 pm

Driving without a rear view mirror

Sounds like a Country Western song.
?

JC
JC
January 11, 2022 5:35 pm

Whoops Should read BDDM

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 11, 2022 5:36 pm

feelthebernsays:

January 11, 2022 at 5:21 pm

Speaking of big predictions, are there an Big Dates coming up?
With all the power of Big Websites, you’d think there be something.

Well, funny you should mention that ‘bern.
My spies tell me that Faulty is predicting a stock market crash.
He was correct about 1929, 1989 and 2008.
Shame about the 628 other crash predictions in between those that he got wrong.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
January 11, 2022 5:38 pm

The Grauniad, nudging the helpless Moron Government towards the political abyss:

Australian Border Force investigating whether Novak Djokovic made false travel claim

Questions have been raised about the declaration completed by an agent for Djokovic, with social media posts seemingly showing he was in Belgrade on Christmas Day before flying to Australia from Spain on 4 January.

In his Australian traveller declaration, filed on 1 January, Djokovic declared “no” when asked: “Have you travelled or will you travel in the 14 days prior to your flight to Australia?”.

A Twitter post by a Portuguese tennis reporter, Jose Morgado, appears to show on Djokovic was in Belgrade at Christmas, posing with the handball star Petar Djordjic.

Djokovic was also pictured playing tennis in the streets of Belgrade in a post from 26 December.

If Djokovic did travel before his flight it could arm the Australian government with fresh material to cancel his visa, on which no decision has yet been taken.

The travel declaration comes on top of reported anomalies on the official website showing Djokovic’s positive covid test, which was the basis for his claimed medical exemption from vaccination.

Helping.

Rabz
January 11, 2022 5:38 pm

Driving without a rear view mirror
Sounds like a Country Western song

Well, li’l Marylou left me, my dogue has died and my rear view mirror has fallen off my truck, I tells ya! 😕

Razey
Razey
January 11, 2022 5:38 pm

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Border Closuresays:
January 11, 2022 at 5:21 pm
Me too, but I feel that God has selected Australians for punishment.
If you can get out, do so.

Sound advice Razey – sound advice indeed.

What are odds of Albo mandating fed workers get vax’d and closing the vax free exit from Australstan loop hole?

Lysander
Lysander
January 11, 2022 5:39 pm

What are odds of Albo mandating fed workers get vax’d and closing the vax free exit from Australstan loop hole?

rosie
rosie
January 11, 2022 5:41 pm

Bruce
You missed the story about how Pope Francis upset all those married couples who have deliberately substituted pets for children.

Frank
Frank
January 11, 2022 5:42 pm

Speaking of codpieces, the bass player has a rather fetching Robin’s egg blue number over his Levis. Skyhooks not available for comment.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
January 11, 2022 5:44 pm

Sad for your rear view mirror Rabz. My drivers’ side wing mirror has one of the very few surviving spiders remaining on the Cafe Bruce premises. The poor thing can hide from the noisies there and can catch insects trying to fly through the mirror. So I let her be.

Kneel
Kneel
January 11, 2022 5:45 pm

“First, I need to get another one-day permit that lets me drive it home legally. This is on top of the first permit to get it to the mechanic. So $100 so far.”

Here in NSW (last time I checked, anyway) you are permitted to drive an unregistered vehicle to and from a licensed vehicle inspection station (typically “closest reasonable” one). You can most certainly drive it to the registry (with a roadworthy cert, ie “pink slip”/”blue slip”) for the purpose of getting it viewed to be registered – in either case, it may be advisable to carry a letter stating your intent, which gives you a bit more leeway with plod if they bother to stop you.
NSW only want to inspect it if it has never been registered previously in Australia, or it’s significantly modified (in which case you still need an engineers report too).

Last time I did this, I was driving a car imported from the UK complete with UK plates and didn’t get stopped, despite seeing several HWP cars on the way. And that was a two-way trip for an unregistered vehicle roadworthy cert (“blue slip”) – about 10km each way.

The other option is to know someone with a motor vehicle traders license and borrow their trade plate – but if you are stopped, they may need to confirm you are an employee.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
January 11, 2022 5:46 pm

Radio check, over.

rosie
rosie
January 11, 2022 5:48 pm

I thought, by the time Elgin got there the marbles were scattered all over the ground.
Didn’t the Turks use the Pantheon for munitions storage and it got blown up?

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
January 11, 2022 5:48 pm

Prime Minister Anthony Albanese

I predict onsite Thai massage as a medicare item with lotsa funding.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Border Closure

“First, I need to get another one-day permit that lets me drive it home legally. This is on top of the first permit to get it to the mechanic. So $100 so far.”

Fun fact:
In most of Qld a roadworthy certificate/inspection is not required, at any time, ever.

Cassie of Sydney
January 11, 2022 5:50 pm

“I thought, by the time Elgin got there the marbles were scattered all over the ground.
Didn’t the Turks use the Pantheon for munitions storage and it got blown up?”

Correct on both counts.

H B Bear
H B Bear
January 11, 2022 5:50 pm

you could say that about most places ffs

Not sure you can say that about industrial processing- aluminium, cement, … . Warm bodies sitting in front of computers OK. Take a look at population movements in the US.

JC
JC
January 11, 2022 5:50 pm

Well, funny you should mention that ‘bern.
My spies tell me that Faulty is predicting a stock market crash.

Remember that 2020 late birth abortion? The idiot was even trying to even predict the exact date. Does anyone know why the exact date was so important?

The markets actually had one of the greatest bull runs in modern history starting at the same time he predicted the crash.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
January 11, 2022 5:51 pm

Rosie – No I didn’t miss it. The Vatican press agency lately has been spitting out press releases on his comments two or three times a day, it looks like. I have avoided annoying my Catholic friends by linking any of these stories.

The one about Archbishop Morandi seemed relevant to Catholic Cats, so I posted the story this morning without editorializing.

calli
calli
January 11, 2022 5:51 pm

Elgin was tidying up.

calli
calli
January 11, 2022 5:55 pm

Where are you today Rosie?

dopey
dopey
January 11, 2022 5:55 pm

Well I’m laying out my winter clothes ‘n
Wishing I was warm going home
Where the New York City winters are not bleedin’ me.

Laying low,seeking out the poorer quarters
Where the ragged people go
Looking for a place as only they would know.

Frank
Frank
January 11, 2022 5:57 pm

Prime Minister Anthony Albanese.

God help us. I didn’t realise until watching Pogria’s clip that Sneakers has the same whiny nasal voice thing as Albanese. Repeated exposure to either would have the same effect as the Lying Slapper, an involuntary twitch in the direction of the remote control to hit the mute button.

MatrixTransform
January 11, 2022 5:58 pm

have Clipsal Cbus electrical circuit system. An electrician told me installing a 3 phase Mercedes panel is no biggie at all as the system can easily handle it. Is he wrong?

JC,
c-bus is your lighting control system
nothing to do with power
yes, your sub-mains will probably handle 32 amps per phase

I have a question though…
which Merc EV are you looking at?
I just looked at the tech spec for EQC 400 and the specs say max charge power 7.4kW.
so an 80kWh battery like this will take around 10hours

areff
areff
January 11, 2022 5:58 pm

bern: rearden metal, took me a minute to recall Ms Rand’s creation.

Nah, it’s fabricated in stout German metal with three valves per cylinder (two in, one out).

Golly, but I’m irked about the delay.

Rabz
January 11, 2022 5:58 pm

Don’t be, BoN – that minor inconvenience will be remedied as of tomorrow morning.

bespoke
bespoke
January 11, 2022 6:00 pm

incoherent ramblersays:
January 11, 2022 at 12:59 pm
Can we have a caged, televised gladiatorial fight between Scumo and Dan of the dead?

Rules:
No one gets out alive.

Likely audience or participants would die of boredom waiting for the first blow.

JC
JC
January 11, 2022 6:00 pm

Matrix

It’s the EQC 400, yes. You’re saying that if I got 3 phase into the house, the charging would still take 10 hours? Is that right?

Rabz
January 11, 2022 6:01 pm

Cats – this is a very tragic story. A Cat posted this video recently. I’d never seen it before and was never a fan of the Chet Faker. I don’t even remember this song from 2014.

The Song is entitled “Gold”.

There are three Sirens in the clip. The Exquisite Brunette in the green jacket, April Corley, was nearly killed by Egyptian army imbeciles (BIRM) in 2015.

She’ll never glide again and her life since has been one of constant pain and regret, given her boyfriend was also killed in the senseless, unprovoked and inexcusable attack by the aforementioned imbeciles.

To try and put some of our alleged “problems” into perspective. It certainly has mine.

Roger
Roger
January 11, 2022 6:03 pm

Repeated exposure to either would have the same effect as the Lying Slapper, an involuntary twitch in the direction of the remote control to hit the mute button.

There’s hardly an Australian Prime Minister in my lifetime who hasn’t had that effect on me. They’ve all had annoying verbal mannerisms and ticks that are amplified by time and familiarity. Whitlam was the last one trained in oratory. Shame about his politics.

Chris
Chris
January 11, 2022 6:03 pm

a little twelfth century church

Noice. Best of British, Lizzie.

Ivan Denisovich
Ivan Denisovich
January 11, 2022 6:03 pm

The one about Archbishop Morandi seemed relevant to Catholic Cats, so I posted the story this morning without editorializing.

https://www.thecatholicthing.org/2022/01/10/papal-indulgence-and-the-style-of-god/

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 11, 2022 6:03 pm

There was never.. repeat NEVER… any possibility ANY government was going to prevent the transportation system from operating at anything but full steam. 

Those conditions were already (ahem) “baked into” the regulations when Breadvan man made his bold prediction.
When Rosie pointed out to him that the regs specifically excluded all the shit he was banging on about he went off into a rant about unavailable spare tyres and truckies being excluded from depots because they couldn’t buy the right coloured fluoro vest.
Batshit crazy stuff.
Truth was, he got a wink and a nod from his Sponsor Father in Melbourne that “Big Things” were going wrong in Supermarket logistics. I think Mrs Sponsor Mother was a junior member of the Colesworth team who ordered Taco shells and kitty litter for Eastern Victoria and she had five orange flashing lights on her computer screen.
Five!
Wow!
A little knowledge …
And, boy, no-one had littler knowledge than that pair.

Thefrollickingmole
Thefrollickingmole
January 11, 2022 6:05 pm

Bespoke.

The first blow will be the ones they give themselves.
Remarkably flexible chaps and the bat eared mongs handles give him an early advantage.
But Sneakers for the win as his lack of spine comes into play.

bespoke
bespoke
January 11, 2022 6:07 pm

Delta

Congratulations and thanks, it reminded me mine is up in a few days. Thinking of getting my wife a glue gun.

miltonf
miltonf
January 11, 2022 6:07 pm

have Clipsal Cbus electrical circuit system. An electrician told me installing a 3 phase Mercedes panel is no biggie at all as the system can easily handle it. Is he wrong?

all depends if you have 3 phase to start off with.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 11, 2022 6:09 pm

Doesn’t underground power experience a far bigger power drop over distance vs poles and wires?
I think I recall this coming up when there was talk of exporting electrickery to Singapore via undersea cable.

JC
JC
January 11, 2022 6:09 pm

How do you find that out Milton?

Cassie of Sydney
January 11, 2022 6:10 pm

“There’s hardly an Australian Prime Minister in my lifetime who hasn’t had that effect on me. They’ve all had annoying verbal mannerisms and ticks that are amplified by time and familiarity. Whitlam was the last one trained in oratory. Shame about his politics.”

Yep. And I’ve heard that Whitlam’s verbal jousts with Jim Killen in parliament were legendary. Witty, humorous and clever.

miltonf
miltonf
January 11, 2022 6:14 pm

If your have four wires going into your house JC you have 3 phase- A phase, B phase, C phase and neutral. You used to have a separate meter for each phase but modern systems maybe different.

rosie
rosie
January 11, 2022 6:16 pm

Exactly Calli.
It’s early morning in Santa Teresa Gallura for me.
Nearly time for me to go coffee hunting.
I could use a capsule in the appartemente but what’s the fun in that.
I sent a postcard to youse very early your this morning.
Some Catholic cats were delighted at the pet story which got some Italians cracking the sads.

miltonf
miltonf
January 11, 2022 6:16 pm

Do you have any 415V outlets?

Roger
Roger
January 11, 2022 6:16 pm

Albo has donned his Akubra and headed north to the Sunshine State, promising to revamp tourism and make it a “life-long career prospect and not just something uni students do part-time”.

Given that Anna has just chopped the tourism sector off at its knees and coal miners will be thinking he’s directing this at them and their kids this is not an auspicious start to campaigning.

Kneel
Kneel
January 11, 2022 6:17 pm

“True. I intend owning one [a V8] for the rest of mine.”

Me too – love my V8’s!

The best one I had was a Holden one actually – VK Commodore police special – light weight body shell, so V8 auto with air and steer and 1/4 tank o fuel at 1323kG on the weigh bridge. Modified engine with about 450HP – went like shit off a shiny shovel, but quite thirsty (best of 19L/100k, worst in 3 digits – IIRC 40-45 L to do 30 km).

The current VX Calais has about 300k on it, so in another 100k or so, might need new rings and bearings and a dunny brush through it, maybe new valve springs or rockers -probably just fit new heads then, maybe a blower if I have the cash 🙂 It is mechanically A1, but the dark blue paint is falling off it, like they all do – I can live with that. Needs the manual diff ratio in it though – it’s got a slight “hole” off the line that I know goes away with 3.45 diff (instead of 3.07). Fuel injection is great – trip to Newcastle and back, with a bit of running around up there, average 9.2L/100k. Not bad for a 300HP 5.7 in a 1700+kg bus, I say!

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Border Closure

Yep. And I’ve heard that Whitlam’s verbal jousts with Jim Killen in parliament were legendary.

More so his jousts with Fred Daly. Those were entertaining.

Carpe Jugulum
Carpe Jugulum
January 11, 2022 6:17 pm

JC says:
January 11, 2022 at 6:00 pm

Matrix

It’s the EQC 400, yes. You’re saying that if I got 3 phase into the house, the charging would still take 10 hours? Is that right?

If it is 3 phase direct to the premesis and do you have a charging that can handle 440v? Does the vehicle have the capacity to handle that sort of voltage to charge, is the first and second questions?

Cassie of Sydney
January 11, 2022 6:18 pm

Umm, isn’t this a terrorist threat? Where’s ASIO? Perhaps they should also focus on extremist far-left environmental groups. But no, they’re too busy hunting down those far-right white supremacist swastika obsessed pimply faced adolescents who live in their bedrooms.

Extreme climate protesters Blockade Australia pledge to shut down Sydney’s CBD

Blockade Australia, the climate protesters infamous for disrupting the Hunter’s rail lines, are now threatening a week-long shutdown of the nation’s economic powerhouse.

The extreme environmental protest group which blocked coal trains in the Hunter last year, causing delays to millions of dollars of shipments, has issued a chilling pledge to “do that tenfold” to Sydney’s CBD.

But NSW Police Minister Paul Toole has vowed not to let “selfish” protesters derail the state’s economic recovery, with police promising zero tolerance of illegal protests hellbent on bringing the city grinding to a halt.

Blockade Australia, the loosely-organised collective of environmental activists who shut down train lines across the Hunter in a series of rolling protests in November have now sworn to take the action “that can’t be ignored” in Sydney in June.

The group has sworn to “converge on Sydney from Monday June 27th to blockade the streets of Australia’s most important political and economic centre and cause disruption that cannot be ignored”.

“Sydney is centre of Australian political and economic power. The infrastructure that keeps this city functioning is as responsible for the climate crisis as the hunter valley coal supply chain (sic),” a post on the group’s Facebook page reads.

“Gridlocking the port of Newcastle dealt a massive blow to Australia’s ability to keep up its extractive operations. Blockading Sydney can do that tenfold.”

Deputy Premier and Police Minister Paul Toole said “reckless protests that disrupt the everyday lives of people is the last thing we need”.

“These protesters had complete disregard for people’s lives by putting the safety of freight workers and the community at risk. This is unacceptable and will not be tolerated,” he said.

“Plans to now shut down the country’s biggest city at a time when our priority is keeping everyone safe and the state moving during a global pandemic is just selfish.”

Transport Minister David Elliott vowed the full weight of the law would be used to ensure Sydney’s transport network wouldn’t be impacted by protests.

“Whilst I respect and indeed encourage political discourse and the right for people to protest, unfortunately the economy is way too vulnerable for people to force shutdowns in the way Blockade Australia are renowned for doing,” he said.

“I would encourage them to seek other ways to express their opinions whilst the people of Australia attempt to work towards their economic recovery without this interference.

“As we did in the Hunter, I’ll be asking the police commissioner to ensure the full force of the law is used to guarantee free movement of our transport system.”

NSW Police last year formed a crack task-force, Strike Force Tuohy, after a series of rolling protests surrounding the Port of Newcastle crippled supply chains and prevented at least 60 freight trains containing coal, grain, and cotton from reaching the docks.

At least 29 activists were arrested during the actions.

But despite the arrests, the group has sworn to take a week-long action in Sydney’s CBD from the end of June, promising “the kind of political action that can’t be ignored”.

“Big business, media monopolies, parliament, fossil fuel companies – the institutions that govern power on this continent are killing the world. At this point in history, to defend everything that is important to us, we have to go after the system in its entirety,” their Facebook post says.

“Shutting down Australia’s largest city for a week in June … is how we start to do that.”

Central Metropolitan Region Commander, Assistant Commissioner Peter Thurtell, said police wouldn’t tolerate law-breaking protests.

“We will not tolerate any activity which endangers the lives of others or puts public safety at risk and anyone who breaks the law or engages in anti-social behaviour will be dealt with accordingly,” he said.

“As with any protest, police will work with organisers to ensure there are no breaches of the peace and minimise the impact of event on the wider community.”

miltonf
miltonf
January 11, 2022 6:18 pm

AnAl really is full of shit. No pun intended, They really will say anything. Is he still building a super train to Newcastle?

Roger
Roger
January 11, 2022 6:18 pm

And I’ve heard that Whitlam’s verbal jousts with Jim Killen in parliament were legendary. Witty, humorous and clever.

Killen was a bit of a showboater, Cassie, but he was never dull.

rosie
rosie
January 11, 2022 6:19 pm

Italy
2,004,597 and I’ve still (hopefully) got two days left.

Chris
Chris
January 11, 2022 6:20 pm

Radio check, over.

Say again, words twice

Speedbox
January 11, 2022 6:20 pm

JC says:
January 11, 2022 at 4:55 pm

I have Clipsal Cbus electrical circuit system. An electrician told me installing a 3 phase Mercedes panel is no biggie at all as the system can easily handle it. Is he wrong?

I don’t know JC. I have previously read that modern cars and their electronic requirements (inter-connection/powering to airbags, antilock braking, stability (anti-skid), cruise control, electric power steering, audio systems, power windows/doors/mirrors and a myriad of other electronic components) becomes more problematic with newer cars. Obviously, the more ‘elaborate’ the car, the more problematic. So, converting a basic Honda Getz is probably simpler than converting a BMW M3. It is not about powering up the batteries to the electric motor – apparently the problem is getting all of the other onboard systems to ‘talk’ to each other as designed. I don’t know why other than the sheer complexity of the systems in a new car. Remember that a modern ICE car uses ECU(s) that manage those systems and their removal/modification opens up a ‘can of worms’.

I am not an auto electrician so if your guy said it’s ok, then I defer to him.

I found the following which may be of interest.

https://evcentral.com.au/converting-classics-to-electric-how-to-do-it-and-how-much-does-it-cost/

JC
JC
January 11, 2022 6:21 pm

Do you have any 415V outlets?

There is one such outlet in the garage, but obviously, I’ve never used it. The sparky said I could operate a smelter from the system. I think that’s what he was referring to. There’s also an elevator which we’ve never used. Would that operate on 3 phase?

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Border Closure

There was never.. repeat NEVER… any possibility ANY government was going to prevent the transportation system from operating at anything but full steam.

This was my point.
Why stamp foot so hard & imply an opposite meaning?

Reading for comprehension has never been your strong point, Dunning Krugman.

Razey
Razey
January 11, 2022 6:21 pm

Evidence for a mouse origin of the SARS-CoV-2 Omicron variant

Collectively, our results suggest that the progenitor of Omicron jumped from humans to mice, rapidly accumulated mutations conducive to infecting that host, then jumped back into humans, indicating an inter-species evolutionary trajectory for the Omicron outbreak.

Yep – Omricon was created in a lab.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1673852721003738

Roger
Roger
January 11, 2022 6:21 pm

More so his jousts with Fred Daly.

Fred Daly was such good entertainment they gave him a slot on daytime TV iirc; might have been after his retirement.

rosie
rosie
January 11, 2022 6:22 pm
Rabz
January 11, 2022 6:22 pm

Australian politicians are the most infuriating idiots* you could ever have inadvertently assault your aural (and visual) senses.

Goose Morristeen has introduced an incredibly annoying habit when bloviating – he has these constant pauses that are presumably meant to portray “gravitas**” but which instead make him sound extremely constipated.

*To have existed in human history

**Or should that be “gravitarse” 😕

rosie
rosie
January 11, 2022 6:22 pm

Someone I knew used to write Killen’s speeches.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Border Closure

Fred Daly was such good entertainment they gave him a slot on daytime TV iirc; might have been after his retirement.

Classic!

Boambee John
Boambee John
January 11, 2022 6:23 pm

Razey

Those figures have to be BS especially in vic. The 20 – 30% of people who were FORCED to get the clot shout will not vote for either labor or liberal.

If they have done a 2PP, they would have used the results from 2019 to do it. They are unlikely to be valid now.

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