Open Thread – Tues 15 March 2022


Caesar Crossing the Rubicon, Adolphe Yvon, 1875

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Bluey
Bluey
March 18, 2022 7:10 pm

dover0beachsays:
March 18, 2022 at 7:05 pm
The reason, cartel members are crossing with their heavy automatic weapons and letting rip.

Did you see the scene earlier this week of several semi-trailers on fire across the border? It was like a war scene.

The cartels are often better armed than the military. I recall watching a video of Mexican marines calling fire from a gunship to subdue cartel members in a raid. Hell, a big chunk of Mexico they run the place instead of the government.

Winston Smith
March 18, 2022 7:12 pm

Roger:

I find myself grieving over what the USA has become.
I can only imagine what American patriots are feeling.

+++++ lots, Roger.

local oaf
March 18, 2022 7:12 pm

I heard that FF are preferencing Greens. Hope it isn’t so.

I voted early and FF were the best option in my seat! Only 5 candidates, Lab, Lib, Grn, a one man independent and FF.

Pointless vote anyway, rock solid Labor seat 🙁

Makka
Makka
March 18, 2022 7:13 pm

did not want to collect on knowing they would default Tsingshan, collect nothing and potentially push the LME itself into insolvency.

There’s a very big Chinese bank involved in the bail out as well. Well that makes sense since the commies own the LME. They’ll hardly let it go bust.

“The Hong Kong stock exchange has struck a deal to buy the London Metal Exchange for £1.39bn (1.7bn euros; $2.15bn).”

Ed Case
Ed Case
March 18, 2022 7:16 pm

Brandon meets with Zelenskyy:
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miltonf
miltonf
March 18, 2022 7:20 pm

Get fucked you miserable Canbra mediocrities…
The Australian Government has placed sanctions on 11 additional Russian banks and government entities, with the majority of the country’s banking assets now covered by our sanctions along with all of the entities that handle Russia’s sovereign debt.

Today’s listing includes the Russian National Wealth Fund and the Russian Ministry of Finance. With our recent inclusion of the Central Bank of Russia, Australia has now targeted all Russian Government entities responsible for issuing and managing Russia’s sovereign debt.

The additional banks together account for approximately 80 per cent of all banking assets in Russia, and include Sberbank, Gazprombank, VEB, VTB, Rosselkhozbank, Sovcombank, Novikombank, Alfa-Bank and Credit Bank of Moscow.

The Australian Government is deeply committed to imposing high costs on Russia. This includes by listing individuals of economic and strategic significance to Russia who have supported, and benefited from, the Putin regime.

We are also continuing to increase sanctions pressure on the oligarchs close to Vladimir Putin. In addition to the 41 oligarchs and immediate family members on whom we had already put targeted financial sanctions and travel bans, Australia has now added two billionaires with links to business interests in Australia, Oleg Deripaska and Viktor Vekselberg.

In doing so, we have continued our close cooperation with key international partners.

We welcome the principled stand taken by Australian companies in announcing moves to cut ties with Russia in protest of Moscow’s illegal, indefensible war against Ukraine.

The Australian Government reiterates our unwavering support for Ukraine’s sovereignty and territorial integrity, and for the people of Ukraine. We will continue to move with partners on coordinated sanctions, and to constrain funds for President Putin’s unlawful war.

I like this one
The Australian Government is deeply committed to imposing high costs on Russia.
We know they’re deeply committed to imposing high cost on Australians.

JC
JC
March 18, 2022 7:22 pm

Dover

No, it just needs some case law.

Really?

Corrected: If I see you and Salvatore stoushing I’m just going to delete those comments. I don’t care who started it, whether today, yesterday, last month, last year. People don’t need to introduce their own subjects, they can talk about the weather, but reheating old stoushes is done.

Okay, so moderate this.

I made a comment about Russian generals dying in the Ukraine invasion. I explained nicely that Driller’s assertion – that it’s no biggie because many generals were in ww2- was just really stupid and had no relationship to modern warfare.

When I countered his assertion the Redneck kunt began to introduce past stoushes . And even here the blowhard is lying. Would you remove the stupid assertions he made about WW2 somehow being relevant? Yes or no.

People don’t need to only introduce their own subjects because it obviously adds to discourse. But this isn’t what this genetic pygmy does. He manages to curve ball a stoush in his replies because his an absolute fucking blowhard.

Hallward Hughes is Eyrie. He pretends he’s related to Howard Hughes and implies the recent movie called the Aviator was really about him and not Howard.
If people disagree with his assertions he asks for them to be banned. Are you going to stop this nonsense especially when his views are tested?

Nothing twostix’s has done, so far as I’ve read, contravenes the policy, apart from his trolling of notafan, which I haven’t seen for little bit now.

The Hutu warrior (stix) posted one lie and one putdown directed toward me. He’s been very vengeful because I’ve called him up on his constant criticism of older people which we suspect is because his parents are spending what he believes is his inheritance. If you’re not aware of the comments go look them up as I’m interested to know if that sort of commenting is allowed.. you know so we don’t muddy things up.

Can I just says this as an aside. If you’re listening to sheilas – any sheilas – about moderation and what comments are acceptable you will end up in a cul-de-sac of unreason. Sheilas are the last people to ever listen to about moderation etc, because they don’t believe in open dialogue and in fact are the most regressive amongst us. Don’t listen to anyone who wears a dress.

JMH
JMH
March 18, 2022 7:23 pm

What’s the general ‘feel’ about the SA Election result tomorrow?

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
March 18, 2022 7:24 pm

[Note: The Shanghai academic, Hu Wei, appears to have vanished from the Public Policy Research Center website.]

Chances are his comment and suggestions do not form any policy position the Party intends to publicly take any time soon…

#WrongThink

feelthebern
feelthebern
March 18, 2022 7:25 pm

What’s the general ‘feel’ about the SA Election result tomorrow?

Libs are paying 4.20.
Howard was lower odds in 2007.

Top Ender
Top Ender
March 18, 2022 7:25 pm

The Wong chap first got into Parliament in 2002. Twenty years of nothing much.

JC
JC
March 18, 2022 7:25 pm

Dover, Also check your proton mail.

miltonf
miltonf
March 18, 2022 7:27 pm

The Wong chap first got into Parliament in 2002. Twenty years of nothing much.

except bile and scowls- for 200k p/a?

JMH
JMH
March 18, 2022 7:30 pm

Castrato in full voice.

JC
JC
March 18, 2022 7:30 pm

feelthebern says:
March 18, 2022 at 7:25 pm

What’s the general ‘feel’ about the SA Election result tomorrow?

Libs are paying 4.20.
Howard was lower odds in 2007.

So the betting means the libs will be rooted?

What do you mean about the Howard reference?

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
March 18, 2022 7:31 pm

Daily Mail.

Schoolgirl says Scott Morrison is DESTROYING her life – and will STRIKE from her $25,000 a year private school in protest

Anjali Sharma threatened to lead more protests if climate inaction continued
The 17-year-old said Scott Morrison should speed up renewable energy projects
She said she would ditch class despite family paying $24,000 a year in fees

JC
JC
March 18, 2022 7:32 pm

The groveling blog slut in sotto voce

Ed Case
Ed Case
March 18, 2022 7:33 pm

Bottom line on Wong:
She’s an asian lesbian who hates Australia.
And she’s going to represent Australia overseas if Albanese wins.
It’s hard to think of any thing more stupid.
[Okay, Rex Franger and SpongeBob, but apart from them …]

bespoke
bespoke
March 18, 2022 7:34 pm

Nothing will change, JMH. All motherhood and nothing about the underling rot.

YAY!!

JMH
JMH
March 18, 2022 7:35 pm

The Wong chap first got into Parliament in 2002. Twenty years of nothing much.

And what are the odds of SA voters giving it another 6 years? Come to think of it, is it up for election this year?

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
March 18, 2022 7:35 pm

Chances are his comment and suggestions do not form any policy position the Party intends to publicly take any time soon…

The Mandarin version received 100,000 hits before being yanked.

Chances are he is cooling down in a skip out the back of the Shanghai #3 Transplant Centre.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
March 18, 2022 7:36 pm

[Okay, Rex Franger and SpongeBob, but apart from them …]

Poor Grigory.

Always looking to be smart, but always getting smarted instead.

It must smart, eh Grigory?

Frank
Frank
March 18, 2022 7:37 pm

The Wong chap first got into Parliament in 2002. Twenty years of nothing much.

Janet Albrechtsen pointed out once that she was the 200 billion dollar woman (debt she signed off on for Rudd) so there is that.

Ed Case
Ed Case
March 18, 2022 7:38 pm

Libs are paying 4.20.
Howard was lower odds in 2007.

Sure, but the Betting Agencies weren’t in the tank for Labor in 2007 like they are now.
Remember PeanutHead was 1/5 to win last time and it was all over half an hour after counting started..

Top Ender
Top Ender
March 18, 2022 7:39 pm

McClown reaches new heights this weekend:

A Covid detection force will go door to door in Perth this weekend and conduct random testing amid fears Omicron is lurking undetected in the community.

About 875 people are expected be tested over the next two weekends as part of a collaboration between the Telethon Kids Institute and Curtin University.

Belmont, Bassendean, Claremont and Melville are among the suburbs health workers will visit as part of the testing blitz, the Western Australian government confirmed.

The process will take about 30 minutes and involve taking saliva samples from voluntary participants and processing them using a new technology called LAMP.

The technology – which stands for Loop Mediated Isothermal Amplification – can process test samples in bulk but has not yet been approved by the Therapeutic Goods Administration.

LAMP tests can be used for ‘screening purposes’ only and those who test positive will need to get an official PCR test to confirm their result.

WA is just a few days away from its Omicron peak, Premier Mark McGowan said – as he launched a random testing blitz over the next four weekends

The announcement of the new testing plan, which is designed to pick up the level of undetected Covid in the community, drew a mixed reaction from the state’s residents, some of whom said they wouldn’t even open their door to the testing teams.

‘Not coming on my property,’ one wrote on social media.

‘Not interested – it’s invading our privacy,’ another said, while one WA resident questioned whether health workers had the authority to go knocking door to door.

‘If I’m not showing symptoms I’m not doing a test,’ one said.

The program is entirely voluntary.

WA is likely just a few days away from its Omicron peak, Premier Mark McGowan says, with the state recording 7,151 new cases and one death on Thursday.

Daily Mail

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
March 18, 2022 7:39 pm

Anjali Sharma threatened to lead more protests if climate inaction continued

Upon graduation I can see Ms Sharma having an excellent career in a range of fast food and supermarket checkout roles.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
March 18, 2022 7:39 pm

underling rot

That’s not a nice way to talk about your minions, bespoke.

They’ll start spiking your Woodstock with lysol if you aren’t careful…

#JeremiahWeed

bespoke
bespoke
March 18, 2022 7:41 pm

Lol!

feelthebern
feelthebern
March 18, 2022 7:42 pm

Howard was dead man walking at was 3.10-3.50 to win in 2007.
So yeah, the markets are saying the LNP in SA has even less chance tomorrow than Howard did in 2007.

Ed Case
Ed Case
March 18, 2022 7:42 pm

And what are the odds of SA voters giving it another 6 years? Come to think of it, is it up for election this year?

Has to be, since 2016 was a Double Dissolution Election.
Pauline Hanson is also up, she’s been quiet lately.
Kristina Keneally musta been a 3 year Senator from 2016, so if she doesn’t get into the Reps, she’s still a Senator until 2025

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
March 18, 2022 7:43 pm

Upon graduation I can see Ms Sharma having an excellent career in a range of fast food and supermarket checkout roles.

You may want to hedge that with a side bet of “grievance studies degree, “activist”, political staffer, MP, then taxpayer funded grievance sinecure”.

Franx
Franx
March 18, 2022 7:44 pm

Looking back a page, a fair bit of fudging about reasons as to why people got jabbed. Sounds oh so perfectly reasonable, but many of the reasons were dishonest then and now. I won’t cite examples because I would find it too embarrassing to embarrass others. But the ease with which being jabbed is now all explained away fails to understand that there are people in society who continue to be locked out of the very stuff of cultural interaction, and more. Beyond which and more importantly, the ease with which being jabbed is explained away refuses to admit to the underlying evils of the excesses of emergency powers and their corollary of lies. So yes, perhaps a little less glib rationalising would keep us honest.

JC
JC
March 18, 2022 7:44 pm

Funny as

ABC’s Q+A drops to its lowest-ever ratings, again

Can we aim to 50,000 viewers? I think we can if we try really hard.

The ABC’s prime time political chat show has again bombed to its lowest-ever ratings for the second week running as viewers turn off from the program in droves.

The program, hosted by Virginia Trioli, on Thursday night focused on discussing the challenges of reopening amid the Covid-19 pandemic, social media issues, cost of living pressures and the war in Ukraine.

The show drew just 168,000 viewers across the five major metropolitan cities, figures from ratings company ozTAM showed.

It’s the program’s worst ever result since it began in 2008 and was the 30th most-watched program for the night.

The previous week it drew just 175,000 viewers.

Panellists on the program, which aired at 8.30pm AEDT, included Federal Labor MP Anne Aly, Liberal Senator Sarah Henderson, former NSW Liberal Minister Pru Goward, social commentator Roxane Gay and Torres Strait Islander union leader Thomas Mayor.

The worst ratings in its history over the past fortnight come after the controversial decision by host Stan Grant to evict pro-Russian activist Sasha Gillies-Lekakis from the program on March 3 and about 20 minutes after he asked a question about the war between Russia and Ukraine.

rosie
rosie
March 18, 2022 7:44 pm

Pretty happy with my tagliatelle, not as good as the Corsican though.
I followed the recipe, it seemed to work, though I didn’t have any parsley for the garnish..

Zipster
March 18, 2022 7:44 pm

Brandon meets with Zelenskyy:

note the iron cross on Z’s t-shirt. you can just see it under his arm.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
March 18, 2022 7:45 pm

Given Fauci was balls deep in Wuhan lab stuff I eagerly anticipate what will come out when someone gets around to investigating his links with Ukrainian biolabs.

I have no idea if he was involved in them but I think the probability approaches one point zero.

Apology to the good doctor if I’m wrong.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
March 18, 2022 7:46 pm

Lol!

Having said that, I’m actually curious enough to try it one day.

#FoxOne

rosie
rosie
March 18, 2022 7:46 pm

The only way to get q&a numbers back would be to reintroduce the live blog here.

Boambee John
Boambee John
March 18, 2022 7:48 pm

It’s hard to think of any thing more stupid.
[Okay, Rex Franger and SpongeBob, but apart from them …]

Dickless

You forgot yourself. Are you a spook?

Pedro the Loafer
Pedro the Loafer
March 18, 2022 7:49 pm

Anjali Sharma is the loud mouthed Melbourne based girly who is bleating about climate change and ploughing through taxpayers dollars mounting utterly frivolous court cases. Any other judge than Mordy Bromberg would have ordered her out of the court under escort by the bailiffs.

Top way to show her grateful appreciation for living an ultra privileged life in Australia.

We really know how to pick our multi-culti immigrants don’t we?

calli
calli
March 18, 2022 7:49 pm

Don’t listen to anyone who wears a dress.

Scotsmen excluded. Except Campbells. Untrustworthy.

Whilst I never wear dresses, Dover, don’t listen to me. Otherwise they’d all be throttling each other in a heartbeat.

bespoke
bespoke
March 18, 2022 7:54 pm

Franx

If somebody can’t think of a scenario were they or others may have had to take the jab.

1: wilfully ignorant
2: ignorant
3: ?

Ed Case
Ed Case
March 18, 2022 7:54 pm

Comment found at Andrei Martyanov’s Blog:

Larchmonter445 tomo stojanovic • 12 hours ago
The CIA retreat was weeks ago. Of course they took the comedian and built him a pretend Presidential bunker. Poland will house the government in exile when this coup/putsch is kicked out of Kiev.

Warsaw will be the new Ukie Oz.

The Dems have to keep the pipeline of funding going so they can slice their share of the money and bring it back to run their rigged US elections. Ukraine is about billions of corrupt dollars. They go to Kiev, they disappear, they reappear as campaign donations and unbooked slush funds. Joe Biden has run this racket for a long, long time.

http://smoothiex12.blogspot.com/2022/03/some-short-explanation.html#disqus_thread

JC
JC
March 18, 2022 7:55 pm

Okay Calli change to.

Don’t listen to anyone who does, or has worn a dress.

Look, females are the worst offenders when it comes to the subject of free and open speech. They should never be allowed near such discussions. Think of it like Lazio supporters and their view that the first two rows at the stand ought to be sheila free as it’s male hallowed ground. Free speech discussions should only be between males (and not effeminate ones either).

Pedro the Loafer
Pedro the Loafer
March 18, 2022 7:56 pm

I double dare McGowan’s “Covid Army” to come knocking at Casa Pedro.

I will sic the Dorpers onto them.

The resident hound may be found cowering under the back verandah.

JC
JC
March 18, 2022 7:56 pm

Thanks Bern.

Zipster
March 18, 2022 7:57 pm

Previous sufferers of heart inflammation can safely receive the Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine despite risks, study finds

the cull must continue

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
March 18, 2022 7:57 pm

Anjali Sharma is the loud mouthed Melbourne based girly who is bleating about climate change and ploughing through taxpayers dollars mounting utterly frivolous court cases.

Mummy and Daddy’s meat-puppet.

Just like Greta.

Rest assured, Cats, that if I had that sort of disposable income to burn and I was living in Melbourne, the little Angers would be model students and the lawyers’ fees would be redirected to more worthy and deserving causes.

rosie
rosie
March 18, 2022 7:57 pm

What embarrassing reasons?
What dishonesty?
It it so impossible to believe that covid is for some a very serious illness that sometimes results in death and people can make perfectly rational decisions that they are better off to get vaccinated than risk the then more serious alpha and delta variants.
I don’t understand the complete lack of charity that cannot countenance the possibility that others can hold different, sincere and valid views and must instead insist those holding them are liars.
No one is responsible for the decision of the Andrews government except the Andrews government for whom no-one here except probably Monty, voted.
Not to mention covid mandates as an evil have to stand beside Andrews legislation to advance the right to seek abortion to birth, his euthanasia legislation, his banning of prayer at abortion clinics and for those who experience same sex attraction, for his attack on the sacrament of confession, for forcing doctors to refer women for abortion, and the rest.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
March 18, 2022 8:01 pm

I will sic the Dorpers onto them.

Would you like a Character Witness for when you are hauled before the magistrate for Crimes Against Humanity? 😉

bespoke
bespoke
March 18, 2022 8:07 pm

The Dorpers are to busy watching MAFS with Gem.

slackster
slackster
March 18, 2022 8:10 pm

In sporting news the 2022 F1 season starts this weekend
New cars
The Ferrari looks outstandingly beautiful

lotocoti
lotocoti
March 18, 2022 8:12 pm

Australia has now added two billionaires with links to business interests in Australia, Oleg Deripaska and Viktor Vekselberg.

Viktor’s fellow Ukrainian born business partner Len Blavatnik is an interesting bloke.

JC
JC
March 18, 2022 8:13 pm

Interesting set of affairs.

The messiah (struth) is at the other Cat trying to direct traffic there by asking the Lollipop king, (AdamD) to fix his blog as there will be refugees arriving from here shortly.

This made me a little curious though. If Struth thinks people will leave here because of the new rules, then why wouldn’t he at least plug is own blog – the Furniture Factory?
Man, he’s such an idiot – such a complete idiot.

Winston Smith
March 18, 2022 8:18 pm

Calli:

Whilst I never wear dresses, Dover, don’t listen to me. Otherwise they’d all be throttling each other in a heartbeat.

I’ve always imagined you in a nice little frock.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
March 18, 2022 8:21 pm

@ Winston-

You owe me a mew fire extinguisher, you naughty man!

#Phwoar

Eyrie
Eyrie
March 18, 2022 8:22 pm

Bem away for 24 hours and until 4pm and just had a chance to catch up.
It goes easier when you scroll Sanchez, Rex Anger (well named), JC (he’s simply gone insane), Lizzie (I thought she left) and very few others.
Dover, just borrow Adam D’s “no dickheads” policy.

Anyway had a good day. Dinner last night with friends, overnight stay on farm, nice little flight today checking new software load (all OK – that’s a relief – amazing what trouble a missing exclamation mark can cause) and easy trip home followed by wonderful steak dinner with red wine by Mrs Eyrie.

Eyrie
Eyrie
March 18, 2022 8:26 pm

Many people also got vaccinated, well before vaccine mandates and passports, because covid represented a risk to their health.

Because they were told by “the authorities” that covid was a threat to their health and were too lazy to do some research or follow links given here and the old Cat and silly enough to believe that the “authorities” wouldn’t lie to them.
FIFY.

Winston Smith
March 18, 2022 8:26 pm

quick question:
Can olive oil be frozen without loss of flavour?

JC
JC
March 18, 2022 8:27 pm

Hallward

He ought to go a step further and not copy the lollipop king. He should go his own way and adopt a no wanker policy. However, as you’re aware, it would mean you, the Incel, and a few others would be out of here very quickly.

Also, I’m curious as you keep mentioning the Lollipop dude all the time as a blog to emulate. But here’s my problem with that. If you like the Lillipop king’s blog so much, then why the fuck are you here and not there, you wanker?

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Winston may have doxxed a fellow Cat. Cropping the face from a photo before posting it is still doxxing.
The photo is recognisable as Calli.

Winston Smith says: March 18, 2022 at 8:18 pm

JC
JC
March 18, 2022 8:30 pm

Because they were told by “the authorities” that covid was a threat to their health and were too lazy to do some research or follow links given here and the old Cat and silly enough to believe that the “authorities” wouldn’t lie to them.
FIFY.

Research/ What research was that, you loon? Present this incredible evidence you researched on Twitter and Facebook and led you to the promised land.

And shouldn’t you be at the Dash-Cat? Go on, be off and take the ventriloquist doll with you.

bespoke
bespoke
March 18, 2022 8:31 pm

I hate it when the elderly elders fight.

Dot
Dot
March 18, 2022 8:33 pm

I’m here for the hard conversations.

I am also here to wager on the outcome of my not listening to said advice.

JC
JC
March 18, 2022 8:33 pm

oh God

feelthebern
feelthebern
March 18, 2022 8:34 pm

Just been speaking with a mate in HK.
Geez it’s bleak up there on the COVID front right now.
Their problem is they have still have Delta cases at the same time as Omicron is ripping through.
The population density is the killer.
Especially when you have 3 generations living in a unit.
The grand kids are literally killing the grand parents if it’s Delta.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
March 18, 2022 8:36 pm

Winston Smith says:
March 18, 2022 at 8:26 pm
quick question:
Can olive oil be frozen without loss of flavour?

And does your chewing gum lose it’s flavour on the bedpost overnight?

Dot
Dot
March 18, 2022 8:36 pm

quick question:
Can olive oil be frozen without loss of flavour?

???

It stores fine anyway.

JC
JC
March 18, 2022 8:37 pm

Hey Driller

Just out of curiosity have you made a donation to the site’s upkeep or are you shirking, which wouldn’t be unexpectedl. If you’re hard up these days, I’m sure the blog owner will understand.

rosie
rosie
March 18, 2022 8:37 pm

No, because they are intelligent rational adults who came to different conclusions to you.
I know respecting others’ opinions on this and many other subjects is anathema to the infallible among us.

Dot
Dot
March 18, 2022 8:38 pm

Geez it’s bleak up there on the COVID front right now.

I can’t trust their governments’ data. How many times did the narrative change regarding Wuhan?

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
March 18, 2022 8:38 pm

I hate it when the elderly elders fight.

What are you whinging about?

You just won the Third Great Truck v. Train War before it ever started.

Graders rule supreme.

(Totally not by default, mind. And totally not cos it’s never a bad idea to be chummy with track workers etc. etc. etc. and so forth…….)

JC
JC
March 18, 2022 8:39 pm

I’ll keep asking.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

oh God

Yes, my child?

JC
JC
March 18, 2022 8:40 pm

Drills

I bet you haven’t made a donation. You haven’t, have you.

rosie
rosie
March 18, 2022 8:41 pm

In case people other than me missed this article.
St Basil’s lost 45 patients within a month from covid and another five, probably from neglect, and of the 237 living and working there only 49 didn’t get covid.

St Basil’s bosses fight for right to stay silent over care home deaths.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
March 18, 2022 8:42 pm

I’m here for the hard conversations.

Who are you calling a Nazi first? 😛

JC
JC
March 18, 2022 8:42 pm

And Hutustix? Has he made a donation?

JMH?

Winston?

These guys remind me.

How about you Mr. Ed. Have you made one?

Ed Case
Ed Case
March 18, 2022 8:44 pm

It stores fine anyway.

It goes rancid after a few months.
If it’s from Europe, it’ll be fucked by the time it gets here.

JC
JC
March 18, 2022 8:44 pm

I’m assuming the following.

If those I’ve named don’t respond – even indirectly- they haven’t made a donation to the site.

I’m sure Eyrie has in an attempt to buy influence so people can be banned.

feelthebern
feelthebern
March 18, 2022 8:45 pm

I can’t trust their governments’ data. How many times did the narrative change regarding Wuhan?

That’s fair.
But after I finish my sashimi that’s just arrived I’ll share some anecdotes.

H B Bear
H B Bear
March 18, 2022 8:45 pm

There are new rules? Why wasn’t I told? How am I expected to break them?

Ed Case
Ed Case
March 18, 2022 8:46 pm

No, I haven’t.
What’s a reasonable donation?
Can I send it anonymously?

JC
JC
March 18, 2022 8:46 pm

Bear.

There’s a no walker’s policy. …

Whoops I mean

No wanker’s policy.

H B Bear
H B Bear
March 18, 2022 8:47 pm

But after I finish my sashimi pangolin that’s just arrived I’ll share some anecdotes

Boambee John
Boambee John
March 18, 2022 8:48 pm

Bluey

First thoughts on defending Australia, more to follow in bite sized bits.

Step 1: Identify your threat. I won’t name specific countries, as it will send everyone of on tangents and hobby horses. Instead, consider the possibilities under four broad headings. Blockade, Bombardment, Invasion and Insurgency.

Each affects the three Services in different ways, and setting priorities causes irreconcilable differences, which can only be resolved by strong political direction. Therein lies a major problem, although Dutton’s overriding of the Defence bureaucracy (military and civilian) over the Froggie Tadpoles suggests that he, at least, is willing to take hard decisions. About the last Defence Minister who did such was Brendan Nelson, who overrode Air Force, and insisted on the F/A-18Fs.

Blockade: Australia needs essential imports (things like oil, high end military equipment, much of the electronic equipment that keeps the nation running, and rather too much in the way of medical equipment and pharmaceuticals. It needs to export, to be able to pay for all this.

That said, blockading both the Indian and Pacific Oceans would be a challenge for any navy, but a useful early step would be to reduce our reliance on imports that must, because of their bulk, come by sea.

Imports: We have lots of oil, but for political reasons, do not exploit it. We also have plenty of coal that could be processed to provide liquid fuel. Sweep away the political problems and get real! OTOH, much of the computer gear we require can be flown in (super computers might be a problem, but probably not insurmountable. Ditto for medical and pharmaceuticals, though we should also manufacture the more commonly used items here. Others should feel free to suggest their list of essential imports.

That should be enough to set the hares running for the moment!

H B Bear
H B Bear
March 18, 2022 8:49 pm

No wanker’s policy.

Oh dear. See what I mean.

bespoke
bespoke
March 18, 2022 8:50 pm

It now takes five nine hour days to get a forklift (high risk) licence and over $500 in my state.

Yay!!

Rabz
March 18, 2022 8:50 pm

Grate – yet more torrential rain in Sydney (again). 🙁

Rabz
March 18, 2022 8:52 pm

It now takes five nine hour days to get a forklift (high risk) licence and over $500 in my state.

This is referred to by economists as “a barrier to entry”.

Crossie
Crossie
March 18, 2022 8:53 pm

Rabz, torrential rained missed me completely but the clouds at sunset were phenomenal.

feelthebern
feelthebern
March 18, 2022 8:53 pm

Sydney has the best sashimi in the world.
Mainly run by Korean or Chinese, but we are so spoilt.

Rabz
March 18, 2022 8:55 pm

Sydney, for all its faults, is my hometown and I still love it. 🙂

Crossie
Crossie
March 18, 2022 8:56 pm

Joe Hilderbrand’s Blame Game tonight is lots of fun. Daisy Cousens is great tonight even though I like Parnell McGuinness in that seat.

cohenite
March 18, 2022 8:56 pm

This made me a little curious though. If Struth thinks people will leave here because of the new rules,

What rules? Do they involve leather, high heels and crotchless panties?

flyingduk
flyingduk
March 18, 2022 8:57 pm

What’s the general ‘feel’ about the SA Election result tomorrow?

1) Libs are gone
2) Surprising number of people who are peed off with the Liberals will NOT be switching to Labor
3) Im predicting a Labor govt, but an significant swing against BOTH majors – possibly to the point where Labor has to cosy up to several indys
4) Hoping for a ‘freedom friendly minor party’ balance of power in the senate

Cassie of Sydney
March 18, 2022 8:59 pm

I make a small monthly donation because I want to support this blog. It’s worth every cent.
Remember how Sinc pulled the rug from under us very quickly with the closure of the original Cat? Please don’t think I’m blaming Sinc for that, I’m not, it was his blog, he was entitled to do whatever he wanted to and I’m grateful for the wonderful years when he oversaw the old Cat. I wasn’t very comfortable with Adam’s Cat, with the security, with the slowness to publish comments etc. Then, like a miracle, Dover provided us with this blog…..and I’m very grateful.

It’s bloody raining again in Sydney….but at least I had a nice afternoon drinking lots of Veuve.

shatterzzz
March 18, 2022 9:00 pm

If you enjoy(ed) the TV show PEAKY BLINDERS there is an excellent 2 part documentary on the history of the gangs available .. THE REAL PEAKY BLINDERS .. tho for some reason it isn’t listed on IMDB .. there is a listing for pod-casts by the writer/narrator of the TV doco Steven Knight (his grandmother lived amidst it all )..
Anyway, I downloaded the TV doco set and it is very well dun & detailed, lotza old pix mixed in with actors and experts covering it all from the beginnings circa 1860 thru to the gangs petering out in the mid 1920s by which time money-making had become more important than street cred …….

lotocoti
lotocoti
March 18, 2022 9:00 pm

And does your chewing gum lose it’s flavour on the bedpost overnight?

No.
But the ants, because that’s how you get ants, add a little zing.

JC
JC
March 18, 2022 9:01 pm

Firstly, I’m not going to make decisions as to relevance because what is or isn’t is contentious and is typically part of any argument anyway.

What does that actually mean?

Secondly, in that instance, he makes a decent argument: (1) generals aren’t as thin on the ground as you imagine, (2) they are often involved near a front and subject to the same dangers as regular infantrymen, and (3) only this morning did I see a report of a Russian general being killed by sniper fire. WWII was modern warfare; many of the same considerations that brought Generals to the front apply today as they applied then. That might have emerged if it didn’t immediately become a stoush.

Again I don’t understand what you mean, but let me guess. WW2 totally applies even though in wars after that we’ve rarely seen a general cop a head shot.

There is nothing reasonable about such a comment because it is stupid. Modern warring – at least since the Vietnam war and beyond -has not seen anything like what have in WW2. It’s an idiotic comment.

I dimly remember that comment. It would be deleted as will any future use of Hutustix or the like.

It was actually two comments by Hutustix. The first was the inflation lie and the other was mocking something about libertarian and the turn of the century. He’s really appears hung up about this age thing. Sad.

Rabz
March 18, 2022 9:01 pm

For those of us who have been calling the Russia/Ukraine contretemps as unknowable, remember – the braindead lamestream meeja is incapable of not pushing an agenda, which is invariably anathema to our sensibilities and interests.

Hold that electrified line! 😕

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
March 18, 2022 9:02 pm

What rules? Do they involve leather, high heels and crotchless panties?

No brawling on the threads, deliberate antagonism, abuse, scab-picking or doxxing.

So, err…No to your question.

Crossie
Crossie
March 18, 2022 9:03 pm

Rabz, Sydney for me too. My husband and I travelled widely and yet it was always best to come home though after our first trip overseas we had a funny reaction. On that trip we travelled through the Swiss Alps and the Canadian Rockies and upon arrival as we drove home westward on M4 we looked at the Blue Mountains, looked at each other and said “Did they shrink?”

flyingduk
flyingduk
March 18, 2022 9:03 pm

Oh, and family first is directing preferences according to each individual candidates previous stance on abortion – im my electorate they are running FF-One Nation-Labor-Liberal-Green.

In contrast, Libs are preferencing Greens SECOND, ahead of both the conservative parties!

Indolent
Indolent
March 18, 2022 9:04 pm

The grand kids are literally killing the grand parents if it’s Delta.

Can they use Ivermectin?

feelthebern
feelthebern
March 18, 2022 9:04 pm

Ok, so back to HK.
Mate who lives there (Aussie) a mate of his (who I’ve met) is a doctor at a hospital.
Problem one, they can’t identify the Delta patients soon enough so they aren’t getting the treatment they need.
Problem two, they don’t have enough staff to hand out the oral treatments to patients.
So they hand out the treatments for a 24 hour period to a patient with instructions on when to take them.
Which the patients almost immediately take in one go.
It’s a mess.
Which isn’t surprising.
HK would be dystopian if you’re poor.

Ed Case
Ed Case
March 18, 2022 9:04 pm

It now takes five nine hour days to get a forklift (high risk) licence and over $500 in my state.

What’s happening here is Training Levies [$$$$$$$] controlled by The Unions.
Some Union drone gets sent [at Company expense on Full Pay] to get his Forklift Ticket, paid for out of the training levy.
So the price is artificially inflated because the trainee isn’t paying.
If the Training was any good it might be worth it, but the reality is the State Labor Government [or a previous Labor Government] stripped all the useful information and practical training out of the Course.
Hint:
That wasn’t by accident.

calli
calli
March 18, 2022 9:04 pm

Why thank you Winston. But…no. Not these days.

Fifty years ago, yes. But something floaty and hippie from The House of Merivale or maybe the In Shoppe.

And now I’m all nostalgic and it’s still a couple of weeks before the disco party.

rickw
rickw
March 18, 2022 9:05 pm

In contrast, Libs are preferencing Greens SECOND, ahead of both the conservative parties!

Let’s hope the shit stain that is the liberal party gets decimated.

Cassie of Sydney
March 18, 2022 9:05 pm

“In contrast, Libs are preferencing Greens SECOND, ahead of both the conservative parties!”

For that alone they deserve to lose….big time.

calli
calli
March 18, 2022 9:05 pm

Erk. Just realised fifty years is…half a century. And I still haven’t grown up.

Ed Case
Ed Case
March 18, 2022 9:07 pm

In contrast, Libs are preferencing Greens SECOND, ahead of both the conservative parties!

FF and PHON aren’t conservative Parties.
The Greens future [if they have any] is as a preference harvester for the Liberal Party.

JC
JC
March 18, 2022 9:07 pm

Ed Case says:
March 18, 2022 at 8:46 pm

No, I haven’t.
What’s a reasonable donation?
Can I send it anonymously?

In your case, no MR. Ed, because I reckon you’ll try to shirk. But how about this though? If you really want to send the money anonymously then do so for an odd amount that you publicly announce right here. If that bothers you as you may not want to disclose the amount even though you’re anonymous, how about attaching 43 cents at the end so he will know you sent the donation and later on we can ask if he received a sum with 43 cents attached. It’s not like we don’t trust you or anything.

Dot
Dot
March 18, 2022 9:07 pm

It now takes five nine hour days to get a forklift (high risk) licence and over $500 in my state.

Good lord. This is such BS.

Why do we put up with this grifting?

Anyone with a driver’s licence could probably become competent after a few hours of one on one hands on training.

Worst thing about those courses is they often spend as long as possible rehashing white card induction/WHS for people with brain damage.

feelthebern
feelthebern
March 18, 2022 9:08 pm

Can they use Ivermectin?

I didn’t ask.

calli
calli
March 18, 2022 9:08 pm

“Did they shrink?”

They did. They’re now called “beaches”.

feelthebern
feelthebern
March 18, 2022 9:09 pm

Let’s hope the shit stain that is the liberal party gets decimated.

Marshall is the blurst.

Cassie of Sydney
March 18, 2022 9:10 pm

Firstly, I don’t want a heavily sanitised and antiseptic blog. I don’t mind a few stoushes and biffs…all done with some humour..of course. But Dover’s is da boss.

feelthebern
feelthebern
March 18, 2022 9:11 pm

A rain bomb is hitting the eastern suburbs of Sydney.

bespoke
bespoke
March 18, 2022 9:11 pm

No brawling on the threads, deliberate antagonism, abuse, scab-picking or doxxing.

So I’m safe, Rex.

But not that Gab chick though. Shit stirrer she is.

Cassie of Sydney
March 18, 2022 9:12 pm

Bern, can you hear Thor?

JC
JC
March 18, 2022 9:12 pm

I get the feeling there are more than a few freeloaders, but I hope I’m wrong though. Golly.

Gab
Gab
March 18, 2022 9:12 pm

Old people died in an Aged Care Home. News at 5.

feelthebern
feelthebern
March 18, 2022 9:13 pm

It’s nuts.
I have the cleanest of gutters but it’s waterfalls off the roof.

Rabz
March 18, 2022 9:14 pm

Crossie – I’ve been all over the planet in my life and returning to Sydney always seemed to restore a “it’s good to be back” feeling.

One of my best mate’s brothers summed it up after he’d been living overseas for eight years – “ultimately, you get back here and there’s nowhere on this earth you’d rather live or raise your kiddies”.

Mind you, that was about decade ago, but I’m unrepentantly anchored here. The best climate of any of the main cities in Oz (leavened as it is with the odd biblical outburst). 🙂

H B Bear
H B Bear
March 18, 2022 9:15 pm

Spent 3 days in Hong Kong with an expat mate on a stopover from London on holiday. Think I had to phone in sick for a week afterwards. Good fun but hard to keep up with the locals.

Ed Case
Ed Case
March 18, 2022 9:16 pm

It’s not like we don’t trust you or anything.

I’m lost for words.

Boambee John
Boambee John
March 18, 2022 9:16 pm

Ed Casesays:
March 18, 2022 at 9:07 pm
In contrast, Libs are preferencing Greens SECOND, ahead of both the conservative parties!

FF and PHON aren’t conservative Parties.
The Greens future [if they have any] is as a preference harvester for the Liberal Party.

ROFLMAO, lay off the booze Dick.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

It should be noted that shortly after I posted observations on the casualty rate of Generals, Speedbox posted, with much the same content, on the casualty rate of Generals.

Anyone negatively critical of my post must therefore also be abrasively critical of Speedbox’s post.
This seems to not be the case.

This does not assist anybody to believe feedback on my content is in good faith.

Crossie
Crossie
March 18, 2022 9:17 pm

Does you chewing gum lose its flavour on the bedpost overnight? What a fun song. I have a 2 CD set called Rock ‘n’ Roll Fun Songs that contains this one and many others. Ray Steven’s features quite a bit on it, check out The Streak.

feelthebern
feelthebern
March 18, 2022 9:17 pm

Where was the BoM alert for this?

JC
JC
March 18, 2022 9:18 pm

Ed Case says:
March 18, 2022 at 9:16 pm

It’s not like we don’t trust you or anything.

I’m lost for words.

Pony up Mr. Ed. (pony, Mr Ed , get it).

Dover can you please let us know when a donation arrives with 43 cents attached to the big notes.

calli
calli
March 18, 2022 9:19 pm

No brawling on the threads, deliberate antagonism, abuse, scab-picking or doxxing.

Not just a leeetle scab? A teeny one?

What is the policy on Chinese burns? Atomic wedgies? Dirty Looks?

rickw
rickw
March 18, 2022 9:19 pm

Others should feel free to suggest their list of essential imports.

In all reality the list of truly essential imports has probably shrunk considerably.

What do you need first to make anything? Information on how to make it. What age are we in?

As an example there’s teenagers mucking around in their parents garages making chips with all manner of relatively cheap repurposed equipment. You’re not going to build a super computer with what they make, but it’s good enough to run a lot of machinery, particularly in extremis.

Bluey
Bluey
March 18, 2022 9:19 pm

Boambee Johnsays:
March 18, 2022 at 8:48 pm
Bluey

First thoughts on defending Australia, more to follow in bite sized bits.

Step 1: Identify your threat. I won’t name specific countries, as it will send everyone of on tangents and hobby horses. Instead, consider the possibilities under four broad headings. Blockade, Bombardment, Invasion and Insurgency.

Each affects the three Services in different ways, and setting priorities causes irreconcilable differences, which can only be resolved by strong political direction. Therein lies a major problem, although Dutton’s overriding of the Defence bureaucracy (military and civilian) over the Froggie Tadpoles suggests that he, at least, is willing to take hard decisions. About the last Defence Minister who did such was Brendan Nelson, who overrode Air Force, and insisted on the F/A-18Fs.

Blockade: Australia needs essential imports (things like oil, high end military equipment, much of the electronic equipment that keeps the nation running, and rather too much in the way of medical equipment and pharmaceuticals. It needs to export, to be able to pay for all this.

That said, blockading both the Indian and Pacific Oceans would be a challenge for any navy, but a useful early step would be to reduce our reliance on imports that must, because of their bulk, come by sea.

Imports: We have lots of oil, but for political reasons, do not exploit it. We also have plenty of coal that could be processed to provide liquid fuel. Sweep away the political problems and get real! OTOH, much of the computer gear we require can be flown in (super computers might be a problem, but probably not insurmountable. Ditto for medical and pharmaceuticals, though we should also manufacture the more commonly used items here. Others should feel free to suggest their list of essential imports.

That should be enough to set the hares running for the moment!

I agree our biggest problem is imports. Basic manufacturing is doable here with the will, but high end stuff and electronics flat out won’t happen. Being blockaded isn’t that big a deal really, we can produce enough food etc. we don’t starve or lack resources. There would be a reduction in “quality of life” for crap like the latest Iphone, but really that’s not a problem.
As I see it, the biggest practical matter would be stopping anyone landing troops here. Subs, air force, and stuff like UAVs and long range missile systems are pretty much the key here. Once someone lands enough troops we just don’t have enough manpower to see them off. It’d be a light infantry guerilla war, or a bareknuckle fight for the major ports.

When it comes down to it the biggest issue is we, as a country, just don’t have the political will or a population willing to really defend the place. I sure as shit look around and don’t see much I’d lay down my life for anymore.

Crossie
Crossie
March 18, 2022 9:21 pm

Rabz, about returning home from overseas, I worked with a young Lebanese guy who told me about his trip to the old country where he had to bribe various officials to get to the airport and his return flight. He said when he landed at Mascot he wanted to kiss the tarmac just like the Pope.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
March 18, 2022 9:22 pm

If the Training was any good it might be worth it, but the reality is the State Labor Government [or a previous Labor Government] stripped all the useful information and practical training out of the Course.
Hint:
That wasn’t by accident.

One quietly gets the impression Grigory has never done any practical skills or equipment licence training in his lifetime to date…

H B Bear
H B Bear
March 18, 2022 9:22 pm

Unsurprisingly the Media Watchdog makes hay with the Mean Girls talk.
Woof woof.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
March 18, 2022 9:23 pm

It’s nuts.
I have the cleanest of gutters but it’s waterfalls off the roof.

Nothing here. BoM radar shows you’re getting personal attention from Gaia. Have you considered finding a volcano to toss a virgin into?

Only thing coming out of my gutters was mum and kid brushtail. Kid brushtail was very excited when given a whole carrot, all for herself.

JC
JC
March 18, 2022 9:24 pm

It should be noted that Speedboxe’s comment was pretty decent. It was much later than Driller’s ridiculous comments on the subject and spoke about the way Russia arranges its military rank and file. Speedbox’s had nothing to do with Driller’s and essentially ignored his stupid comments relating to the subject of generals lost.

For Driller to now try to associate his comments with Speedbox’s is both laughable and repugnant at the same time.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
March 18, 2022 9:28 pm

When it comes down to it the biggest issue is we, as a country, just don’t have the political will or a population willing to really defend the place. I sure as shit look around and don’t see much I’d lay down my life for anymore.

Fair comment.

rickw
rickw
March 18, 2022 9:29 pm

Just had one of those reality check moments:

Yes, you really did get fired for refusing to take experimental medication……

Crossie
Crossie
March 18, 2022 9:29 pm

The most essential building block of modern technology is the microchip so you would need to secure its production. I read somewhere that FoxConn(sp?) of Taiwan are proposing to build a microchip factory in Saudi Arabia which is as far from China as you can get.

JC
JC
March 18, 2022 9:31 pm

When it comes down to it the biggest issue is we, as a country, just don’t have the political will or a population willing to really defend the place. I sure as shit look around and don’t see much I’d lay down my life for anymore.

Wow, not even your family and friends. Wow!

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

No, it was my comment which was similar to Speedbox’s.
There is little substantive difference between the comments.

I’ve no further interest in rehashing what is an objective comment from a day or two ago, which is being treated in a subjective manner purely in an attempt foment ill-will.

In short: Grow up.

cohenite
March 18, 2022 9:32 pm
Crossie
Crossie
March 18, 2022 9:34 pm

I also checked my gutters last week which were overflowing and found them full of mud and moss. Cleanup will have to wait until I have the time.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
March 18, 2022 9:35 pm

When it comes down to it the biggest issue is we, as a country, just don’t have the political will or a population willing to really defend the place.

I’m not so sure I could make the same comment with confidence.

Unfortunately, we have to cross that bridge when it presents itself. Policy and pollie-rhetoric is not a reliable indicator. Ukraine, for all the shit being heaped on it now, did not honestly expect to have its sovereign territory forcibly taken from it in 2014 and 2 insurgencies fomented in its Eaat. One could argue its people were just as complacent as ours are now. 8 years later, and things are very different.

We are not Taiwan, which has had 70 years of existential threat from its much larger and aggressive mainland neighbour ingrained into its culture. For all of Indonesia’s bluster and actual territorial belligerency and provocations in the 60s and 70s, it seems was never something that twigged in the average Australian’s thinking or day-to-day conversation.

JC
JC
March 18, 2022 9:36 pm

Driller

I’ve reported your comment as abusive.

Your comment was not similar and in fact had zero to associate with Speedbox.

1. You made the stupid suggestion that losing generals was no biggie as all we had to do was look at WW2 when lots of generals lost their lives.

2. Speedbox made the comment that Russia continues to follow WW2 military orthodoxy in that it expects it generals to lead from the very front which means they are at much higher risk.

These two arguments are not the same and anyone making this suggestion is either very low IQ or simply dishonest or both.

Now fuck off and stop abusing people.

Crossie
Crossie
March 18, 2022 9:38 pm

Here’s some more from Ray Stevens – Along Came Jones.

JC
JC
March 18, 2022 9:43 pm

Here’s another rule Dover ought to add to the rule book. Anyone contacting him, complaining about comments or commenters that they find offensive should have their comments publicly disclosed as a thread.

rickw
rickw
March 18, 2022 9:43 pm

Once someone lands enough troops we just don’t have enough manpower to see them off. It’d be a light infantry guerilla war, or a bareknuckle fight for the major ports.

Evacuate everyone ahead of the advance. Keep retreating and keep ambushing them as you go. It doesn’t matter if they get a port, as long as you’re making them bleed, eventually they will run out of political steam.

And if AusGov were prepared to act on how deep a shit we are in, they would immediately scrap all gun laws and drone laws.

JC
JC
March 18, 2022 9:44 pm

How about transparency.

Crossie
Crossie
March 18, 2022 9:44 pm

Rex, I don’t think we are complacent about Indonesia. Wasn’t it only recently that they bought a large number of fighter planes from the US? That ruffled quite a few feathers in my circle of friends and acquaintances.

On the other hand they don’t have to attack us, they just have to release the boats with “asylum seekers”.

Baba
Baba
March 18, 2022 9:46 pm

Check your iCloud mail.

Crossie
Crossie
March 18, 2022 9:48 pm

Once someone lands enough troops we just don’t have enough manpower to see them off.

We don’t have to see them off, the top end will take care of it. If crazy Euro tourists can’t survive it nobody can.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
March 18, 2022 9:51 pm

Evacuate everyone ahead of the advance. Keep retreating and keep ambushing them as you go. It doesn’t matter if they get a port, as long as you’re making them bleed, eventually they will run out of political steam.

On that topic, in John Curtin’s biography, the chapter on the “Brisbane Line” makes interesting reading.
Do you concentrate your forces to defend “the heartland?”

rickw
rickw
March 18, 2022 9:53 pm

We don’t have to see them off, the top end will take care of it. If crazy Euro tourists can’t survive it nobody can.

Imagine if they took Darwin. Those poor CCP mummy’s boys would head south, reaching the outskirts they would look out across the hot barren flatness and think: “Fuck we’re all gunna to get Falconio’d”.

Ed Case
Ed Case
March 18, 2022 9:55 pm

Here’s another rule Dover ought to add to the rule book. Anyone contacting him, complaining about comments or commenters that they find offensive should have their comments publicly disclosed as a thread.

Strike me roan.
Is there enough bandwidth in the universe to accommodate 57 Volumes of complaints about Ed Case?

Crossie
Crossie
March 18, 2022 9:55 pm

An anecdote about crazy Euro tourists that happened over a decade ago. Brother-in-law’s Euro friends arrived and bought an old car they meant to drive everywhere and simply abandon before flying home. They were smart enough to get a satellite phone which came in really handy when they got stuck somewhere in remote NT with mechanical trouble. They called the BIL in Brisbane to contact emergency services.

Boambee John
Boambee John
March 18, 2022 9:56 pm

Bluey

That should be enough to set the hares running for the moment!

I agree our biggest problem is imports. Basic manufacturing is doable here with the will, but high end stuff and electronics flat out won’t happen. Being blockaded isn’t that big a deal really, we can produce enough food etc. we don’t starve or lack resources. There would be a reduction in “quality of life” for crap like the latest Iphone, but really that’s not a problem.
As I see it, the biggest practical matter would be stopping anyone landing troops here. Subs, air force, and stuff like UAVs and long range missile systems are pretty much the key here. Once someone lands enough troops we just don’t have enough manpower to see them off. It’d be a light infantry guerilla war, or a bareknuckle fight for the major ports.

When it comes down to it the biggest issue is we, as a country, just don’t have the political will or a population willing to really defend the place. I sure as shit look around and don’t see much I’d lay down my life for anymore.

A quick response, more tomorrow.

Our real problem with both imports and exports (and why I started with a suggestion to reduce the quantity of essential imports) is that we have very limited capability to escort merchant traffic. With the two LPHs (HMAS Canberra and Adelaide) and a very limited number of destroyers and frigates, escorting even a single convoy through a danger area would be difficult.

That said, there is a lot of ocean out there, and much of it is beyond the range of air attack. Whether countries buying our coal, iron ore, grain and similar bulk exports would be willing to provide their own escorts (perhaps with a discount on price) is an open question. But we will still need that export income.

More tomorrow.

JC
JC
March 18, 2022 9:58 pm

Well FMD. We’ve come a long way baby.

A Lesbian criticizes a hetero female about her lack of children.

Opposition foreign affairs spokeswoman Penny Wong has admitted she raised Kimberley Kitching’s lack of children during a meeting in 2019.

In a joint statement issued with opposition finance spokeswoman Katie Gallagher and opposition home affairs spokeswoman Kristina Keneally – tagged the “mean girls” club by Kitching – Senator Wong said she had apologised for her comments after they were first raised publicly two years ago.

Ed Case
Ed Case
March 18, 2022 10:00 pm

Do you concentrate your forces to defend “the heartland?”

Curtin was letting the Japs know that if they could put fleets outside Sydney and Melbourne, he’d evacuate those Cities and they could have Australia.
They couldn’t and he died before he could be tried for Treason.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
March 18, 2022 10:00 pm

Imagine if they took Darwin. Those poor CCP mummy’s boys would head south, reaching the outskirts they would look out across the hot barren flatness and think: “Fuck we’re all gunna to get Falconio’d”.

Again, using World War Two as an example, an Australian General (Frank Berryman?) was asked what steps he would take, in the event of Japanese landings at Darwin.

“Send out the salvage Corps to collect their bleached bones from the desert.”

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
March 18, 2022 10:01 pm

Curtin was letting the Japs know that if they could put fleets outside Sydney and Melbourne, he’d evacuate those Cities and they could have Australia.

Bullshit.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
March 18, 2022 10:01 pm

Strike me roan.
Is there enough bandwidth in the universe to accommodate 57 Volumes of complaints about Ed Case?

Sounds like a hint, Grigsy babe…

Crossie
Crossie
March 18, 2022 10:03 pm

A Lesbian criticizes a hetero female about her lack of children.

Yep, Penny Wong, a childless woman sneering at another woman, Kimberley Kitching, for not having children. That’s real chutzpah.

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
March 18, 2022 10:04 pm

except bile and scowls- for 200k p/a?

i reckon that today senators are on closer to $300,000.
Salary $211,000
Electorate allowance $32,000
Committee allowance for some $23,000
Super – another 15%.
“flying my sick child around the sights of the Great Australian Bight” allowance
Vehicle allowance.

It all adds up.

Ed Case
Ed Case
March 18, 2022 10:04 pm

“Send out the salvage Corps to collect their bleached bones from the desert.”

You’ve missed the point, Zulu.
What the General was saying is that the Japs weren’t invading by way of Darwin.
Yet that’s exactly what the Labor Government kept telling the Australian people.

lotocoti
lotocoti
March 18, 2022 10:05 pm

As I see it, the biggest practical matter would be stopping anyone landing troops here.

For an invader, finding somewhere practical to land would be a bigger problem.
We don’t have a lot of Botany Bays.

Boambee John
Boambee John
March 18, 2022 10:06 pm

Zulu Kilo Two Alphasays:
March 18, 2022 at 10:01 pm
Curtin was letting the Japs know that if they could put fleets outside Sydney and Melbourne, he’d evacuate those Cities and they could have Australia.

Bullshit.

Dick Ed has a very vivid imagination, not necessarily connected to reality, or to the actual historical record.

Ed Case
Ed Case
March 18, 2022 10:08 pm

Yep, Penny Wong, a childless woman sneering at another woman, Kimberley Kitching, for not having children. That’s real chutzpah.

You’re missing the point as well.
Wong “has” children with her “wife”.
So she was daring Kitching to bring that up and Kitching caved.

Boambee John
Boambee John
March 18, 2022 10:08 pm

Ed Casesays:
March 18, 2022 at 10:04 pm
“Send out the salvage Corps to collect their bleached bones from the desert.”

You’ve missed the point, Zulu.
What the General was saying is that the Japs weren’t invading by way of Darwin.

Diversion squirrel. The Japanese weren’t invading from any direction.

Zipster
March 18, 2022 10:08 pm

Sen. Hawley’s shocking claim about Biden’s SCOTUS pick
Sen. Josh Hawley says Judge Ketanji Brown Jackson has ‘consistently let child sex predators off the hook.’ #FoxNews #Hannity

Rabz
March 18, 2022 10:09 pm

Poor ol’ JC, relaxatratin’ with some HBOTs

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
March 18, 2022 10:09 pm

JCsays:

March 18, 2022 at 9:43 pm

Here’s another rule Dover ought to add to the rule book. Anyone contacting him, complaining about comments or commenters that they find offensive should have their comments publicly disclosed as a thread.

This would be perfect.
Flush the sooks into the open and force them to argue the point.
Don’t worry about the admin.
As soon as the back-channel sooks are exposed the email traffic will dry up.

feelthebern
feelthebern
March 18, 2022 10:10 pm

The bigger issue with Jackson is she continually rules in favour of corporations.
The socially “progressive” rulings are cover.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
March 18, 2022 10:11 pm

They couldn’t and he died before he could be tried for Treason.

Got a source for that, Grigs?

Ed Case
Ed Case
March 18, 2022 10:11 pm

Diversion squirrel. The Japanese weren’t invading from any direction.

What was the Battle of The Coral Sea about then, SpongeBob?
Rights to conduct Whale Watching Tours?

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
March 18, 2022 10:13 pm

Poor ol’ JC, relaxatratin’ with some HBOTs …

You owe me a new fire extinguisher too, Rabz!

Crossie
Crossie
March 18, 2022 10:15 pm
Rex Anger
Rex Anger
March 18, 2022 10:15 pm

What was the Battle of The Coral Sea about then, SpongeBob?

Port Moresby, and the airbases and anchorages it provided within striking range of the Australian and American facilities across Far North Queensland and the Northern Territory.

132andBush
132andBush
March 18, 2022 10:15 pm

calli says:
March 18, 2022 at 9:19 pm

No brawling on the threads, deliberate antagonism, abuse, scab-picking or doxxing.

Not just a leeetle scab? A teeny one?

What is the policy on Chinese burns? Atomic wedgies? Dirty Looks?

Yeah!
And bring back the “wet willie”.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
March 18, 2022 10:16 pm

What was the Battle of The Coral Sea about then, SpongeBob?
Rights to conduct Whale Watching Tours?

The defeat of a Japanese invasion fleet, with Port Moresby as its destination.

Bar Beach Swimmer
March 18, 2022 10:17 pm

JC:
Sheilas are the last people to ever listen to about moderation etc, because they don’t believe in open dialogue and in fact are the most regressive amongst us. Don’t listen to anyone who wears a dress

If there’s not a tongue in cheek in that, I beg to differ. And on dresses: I like them.

Boambee John
Boambee John
March 18, 2022 10:18 pm

Ed Casesays:
March 18, 2022 at 10:11 pm
Diversion squirrel. The Japanese weren’t invading from any direction.

What was the Battle of The Coral Sea about then, SpongeBob?
Rights to conduct Whale Watching Tours?

Port Moresby.

Then they were going to swim across Torres Strait, eating sharks and crocodiles along the way.

Idiot.

Crossie
Crossie
March 18, 2022 10:19 pm

Ed Case, Penny Wong is a woman so why didn’t she have them? For all intents and purposes she is a childless woman. Her wife’s children have a different second parent, not Wong.

Rabz
March 18, 2022 10:20 pm
Bar Beach Swimmer
March 18, 2022 10:20 pm

Dr BG, if you’re about. There’s another demo – the World Wide Rally for Freedom – at 12:00pm tomorrow at the Supreme Court Gardens, Perth.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
March 18, 2022 10:21 pm

And bring back the “wet willie”.

You vicious, depraved fiend you…

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Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
March 18, 2022 10:25 pm

Diversion squirrel. The Japanese weren’t invading from any direction.

After the fall of Singapore, the Japanese Navy put forward two plans for the invasion of Australia, with the aim of preventing the use of this country, as a base by the Americans to drive North to liberate the Philippines. The Japanese Army rejected both plans – they calculated they would need between nine to twelve divisions of a total order of battle of nearly fifty divisions, the majority of which was already committed to the war in China, and half a million tons of shipping to transport and supply that force, which would have to be reallocated from their task of transporting raw materials, from the newly conquered territories, to the factories of Japan.

JC
JC
March 18, 2022 10:28 pm

You’re missing the point as well.
Wong “has” children with her “wife”.
So she was daring Kitching to bring that up and Kitching caved.

Wong impregnated the other lesbian , did she?

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
March 18, 2022 10:32 pm

The Japanese High Command did bicker about attempting to occupy Australia- The Navy wanted to do it, but the Army said they would never have the resources to attempt the task.

Having said this, at least one reconnaissance party of about 2o men was sent from Timor to north-wesr WA to survey potential airfield sites, but none of these were conclusive. The survey party sailed home, undetected.

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